Forecast Discussions mentioning "ACARS", "MDCRS", "AIRCRAFT", "TAMDAR", or "AMDAR" received at FSL on 09/22/08


SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
910 PM PDT SUN SEP 21 2008 .SHORT TERM (TONIGHT-WED)...LAX ACARS SOUNDINGS THIS EVENING SHOWING TWO INVERSIONS...ONE AT ABOUT 1800 FT AND ANOTHER AT ABOUT 4800 FT. DISORGANIZED MARINE LAYER CLOUDS WERE OVER THE SOCAL BIGHT MAINLY S OF THE CHANNEL ISLANDS AND OFF THE COAST FROM L.A. COUNTY SOUTHWARD. AN EDDY IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP OVERNIGHT WHICH SHOULD HELP TO SOLIDIFY THE MARINE LAYER CLOUD COVER AND PUSH THE CLOUDS INLAND TO THE VALLEYS AND UP THE COAST TO VTU AND S SBA COUNTY LATER TONIGHT. LOW CLOUDS WERE SPARSER ALONG AND OFF THE CENTRAL COAST THIS EVENING. IT LOOKS LIKE LOW CLOUDS SHOULD PERSIST ALONG THE SBA CENTRAL COAST OVERNIGHT BUT THE EXTENT OF LOW CLOUDS FOR THE SLO CENTRAL COAST IS QUESTIONABLE. THE WRF IS FORECASTING SOME OFFSHORE LOW LEVEL FLOW ALONG THE CENTRAL COAST LATE TONIGHT WHICH MAY CAUSE ANY LOW CLOUDS TO BE PUSHED OFF THE COAST BY SUNRISE...WHICH THE BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE FIELDS ARE SUGGESTING. IT ALSO APPEARS LOW CLOUDS MAY BE HARD PRESSED TO MOVE INTO THE SALINAS VALLEY LATER TONIGHT AS WELL. OTHERWISE MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES SHOULD PREVAIL OVER A GOOD PORTION OF THE FORECAST AREA THROUGH TONIGHT. A BROAD UPPER TROF OVER CA IS FORECAST TO MOVE E THRU MON...WITH AN UPPER RIDGE EXPECTED TO BUILD INTO SRN CA FOR TUE THRU WED. A BROAD WNW FLOW ALOFT CA BE EXPECTED OVER THE DISTRICT THRU MON THEN THE FLOW WILL TURN MORE WSW FOR TUE AND GENERALLY SOUTHERLY FOR WED. DRY WEATHER WILL CONTINUE OVER THE DISTRICT THRU WED...WITH GRADUALLY WARMING TEMPS THRU THE PERIOD. BY WED HI TEMPS SHOULD BE WELL ABOVE NORMAL IN MANY AREAS AWAY FROM THE IMMEDIATE COAST. THE MARINE LAYER SHOULD SHRINK SOME AS WELL AND BE AROUND OR JUST BELOW 1000 FT DEEP BY WED...WITH JUST PATCHY NIGHT AND MORNING LOW CLOUDS AND FOG EXPECTED FOR THE COASTAL PLAIN BY TUE NIGHT. THE WRF WAS FORECASTING LITTLE IF ANY LOW CLOUDS FOR THE CENTRAL COAST BY TUE NIGHT AS WELL. ...FROM PREVIOUS DISCUSSION... .LONG TERM (THU-SUN)...MODELS HAVE BEEN FLIP FLOPPING A BIT FOR THU AND FRI. A TROUGH SHOULD DIG DOWN FROM ALASKA AND PUSH OUR WARM RIDGE EASTWARD...BUT WHETHER THAT HAPPENS THU NIGHT LIKE THE 0Z RUNS SUGGESTED OR FRI NIGHT LIKE THE 12Z RUNS IS LEFT TO BE SEEN. THE 12Z RUNS ACTUALLY WEAKEN THE ORIGINAL TROUGH...WHILE A RATHER LARGE TROUGH JUST SOUTH OF ALASKA STEALS SOME OF ITS ENERGY. THIS NEW SOLUTION RESULTS IN SHIFTING THE HIGH ONLY SLIGHTLY TO THE EAST...AND KEEPING US FAIRLY WARM FRI THROUGH SUN. NOT ONLY THAT...BUT THIS PATTERN PUTS THE HIGH INTO A FAVORABLE SOUTHERLY FLOW REGIME FOR OUR AREA...WHICH COULD PULL UP ANY AVAILABLE MOISTURE FROM MEXICO. DID NOT BITE ON THIS JUST YET...SINCE THIS MOISTURE WOULD NOT GET HERE UNTIL FRIDAY...BUT IF THE MODELS CONTINUE TO SING THE SAME TUNE THROUGH THIS WEEK...IT WILL BE TOUGH TO IGNORE FOR LONG. EITHER WAY...FRI THROUGH SUN SHOULD BE A BIT COOLER...BUT UNTIL WERE SEE MORE STABILITY IN THE SOLUTIONS...DID NOT GET TOO CUTE AND JUST TRENDED TEMPS DOWN A BIT EACH DAY BACK TOWARD NORMAL. && .AVIATION...22/0406Z...SOME LOW CLOUDS WERE NOTED ON THE CENTRAL COAST THIS EVENING. LOW CLOUDS SHOULD EVENTUALLY DEVELOP OVER A WIDER PORTION OF THE CENTRAL COAST TONIGHT AND MOVE INTO KSMX AND KSBP BY MIDNIGHT OR SHORTLY AFTER. THE WRF WAS FORECASTING LIGHT OFFSHORE FLOW FOR THIS AREA LATER TONIGHT SO IT IS POSSIBLE ANY LOW CLOUDS THAT DO MOVE INTO THE AIRFIELDS MAY CLEAR OUT AS EARLY AS 7 AM OR 8 AM. LOW CLOUDS ALSO EXPECTED TO DEVELOP AROUND KPRB LATE TONIGHT AND EARLY MON. S OF POINT CONCEPTION...TIMING OF LOW CLOUDS RATHER DIFFICULT...BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE LOW CLOUDS SHOULD MOVE INTO KLGB AND KLAX BY 07Z OR 08Z AS AN EDDY DEVELOPS...THEN SPREAD UP THE COAST AND EVENTUALLY AFFECT KOXR AND KSBA WITH IFR TO LOW MVFR CIGS. LOW CLOUDS SHOULD ALSO MOVE INTO KBUR AND KVNY BY 11Z TO 12Z WITH MVFR CIGS. ALL THE LOW CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED TO CLEAR TO VFR BY MIDDAY MON AND CONTINUE VFR THRU MON AFTERNOON FOR KLAX...MODERATE TO HI CONFIDENCE LOW CLOUDS AND MVFR CIGS WILL MOVE IN BY 07Z THEN PERSIST THRU 19Z OR 20Z BEFORE CLEARING TO VFR FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY. NO WIND ISSUES ARE EXPECTED THRU MON. FOR KBUR...MODERATE CONFIDENCE LOW CLOUDS AND MVFR CIGS WILL DEVELOP BY 12Z MON THEN CLEAR TO VFR BY 18Z. NO WIND ISSUES ARE EXPECTED THRU MON. && .LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY (SEE LAXMWWLOX). && $$ PUBLIC...SIRARD/KITTELL AVIATION...SIRARD WWW.WEATHER.GOV/LOSANGELES
SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
1045 PM PDT FRI SEP 19 2008 .SHORT TERM (TODAY-MON)... TEMPERATURES COOLED DOWN RATHER SIGNIFICANTLY ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE SLO INTERIOR VALLEYS WHERE PASO ROBLES ONLY REACHED 76 DEGREES TODAY. MOST OTHER INTERIOR LOCATIONS WERE DOWN BETWEEN 3-5 DEGREES AS BOUNDARY LAYER TEMPS COOLED A BIT AND THICKNESS LVLS DROPPED IN THE WAKE OF A WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY THAT MOVED INLAND OVERNIGHT. MOST LA/VTU SBA COUNTY VALLEYS REMAINED IN THE 80S. WHILE LOW CLOUDS WERE ABSENT OVERNIGHT AND THIS MORNING...DOWNTOWN WAS ABLE WARM UP AS HIGH AS PALMDALE TO 86 DEGREES. CURRENTLY...SKIES ARE MOSTLY CLEAR SOUTH OF POINT CONCEPTION...WHILE A BAND OF CLOUDS ASSOCIATED WITH A WEAK TROF WITH CIGS OF NEAR 5000 FT IS BEGINNING TO SURGE INTO THE CENTRAL COAST THIS EVENING. HARD TO TELL THE EXTENT OF CLOUD COVERAGE OVERNIGHT...BUT MODELS SUGGEST THAT CLOUDS SHOULD MOVE INTO THE SALINAS RIVER VALLEY OVERNIGHT. NOT ANTICIPATING ANY FOG DUE TO HIGH CLOUD BASES. LATEST AMDAR SOUNDING NEAR KLAX INDICATED MARINE LAYER NEAR 800 FT...BUT WITH APPROACHING WEAK TROF...MARINE LAYER SHOULD DEEPEN WHILE INVERSION WEAKENS OVERNIGHT. NAM-WRF IS ADVERTISING EDDY CIRCULATION TO HELP SPIN UP SOME STRATUS ACROSS LA/VTU COUNTY COASTAL AREAS OVERNIGHT. FEEL THAT THERE WILL BE SOME PATCHY LOW CLOUDS ACROSS LA COUNTY AFTER MIDNIGHT...AND POSSIBLY VTU COUNTIES. WITH INVERSION WEAKENING...LOW CLOUDS COULD POP UP RANDOMLY ACROSS PORTIONS OF LA/VTU COUNTY COASTAL AREAS...BUT SHOULD REMAIN PATCHY IN NATURE. KEPT SKIES CLEAR FOR SBA SOUTH COAST OVERNIGHT...BUT WITH A FEW BANDS OF CLOUDS NEAR POINT CONCEPTION...A MINI EDDY COULD DEVELOP BETWEEN SBA AND THE CHANNEL ISLANDS LATER TONIGHT. HOWEVER...THERE IS A DECENT NORTHERLY GRADIENT BETWEEN KSBA-KSMX WHICH SHOULD KEEP THE SANTA BARBARA SOUTH COAST CLEAR. SATURDAY LOOKS TO BE A FEW DEGREES COOLER...ALTHOUGH 950 MB TEMPS DO NOT CHANGE MUCH...BUT ONSHORE FLOW INCREASES ACROSS THE REGION. EXPECT MOST VALLEY LOCATIONS TO BE IN THE MID 80S. WHILE THE COASTAL AREAS REMAIN FROM THE UPPER 60S AND 70S TO AROUND 80 INLAND AREAS. A MORE IMPRESSIVE EDDY DEVELOPS ACROSS THE SO CAL BIGHT SAT NIGHT AND SHOULD REACH THE COASTAL VALLEYS KEEPING TEMPS COOLER THAN AVG ON SUNDAY. THERE CONTINUES TO BE A DECENT NORTHERLY GRADIENT AFFECTING THE SANTA BARBARA COUNTY MTNS AND SBA SOUTH COAST WHICH SHOULD BRING ADDITIONAL LOCAL GUSTY NORTHWEST TO NORTH WINDS ACROSS THE USUAL WINDY PASSES AND CANYONS NEAR GAVIOTA TO MONTECITO. MODELS ALSO PICK UP SOME LOCAL NORTHERLY WINDS 15 TO 30 MPH ACROSS THE I-5 CORRIDOR LATE SAT NIGHT INTO EARLY SUNDAY MORNING WITH A FEW CLOUDS POSSIBLE PUSHED UP AGAINST THE NRN SLOPES OF THE VTU/WESTERN LA COUNTY MTNS EARLY SUNDAY MORNING. THERE COULD BE A FEW DEGREES OF WARMING ACROSS THE INTERIOR PORTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA AS WEEK UPPER RIDGE SLOWLY BUILDS IN FROM THE SOUTHWEST. HOWEVER A CATALINA EDDY SHOULD PERSIST SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY CONTINUING TO LEAVE THE COASTAL AREAS RELATIVELY COOL FOR MONDAY. ...FROM PREVIOUS DISCUSSION... .LONG TERM (TUE-FRI)...WARMING TREND STILL ON TRACK FOR THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. GFS HAS BACKED OFF SLIGHTLY ON THE OFFSHORE FLOW FOR WED AND THU BUT GRADIENTS SHOULD AT LEAST BE NEAR NEUTRAL IF NOT SLIGHTLY OFFSHORE. STILL THINK THE GFS IS UNDERDOING THE WARMING AT 950 AS WELL THE MOS GUIDANCE HIGHS. GIVEN THE STRENGTH OF THE UPPER HIGH AND NEAR NEUTRAL OR SLIGHTLY OFFSHORE SURFACE GRADIENTS, HIGHS SHOULD BE CLOSE TO 100 IN THE VALLEYS AND CLOSE TO 90 ACROSS THE INLAND COASTAL PLAIN. FOR THIS REASON CURRENT FORECAST CONTINUES TO BE WARMER THAN MOS GUIDANCE. WARMING TREND SHOULD END FRI AS ANOTHER TROF APPROACHES THE COAST AND HIGH PRESSURE MOVES EAST. && .AVIATION...20/0545Z. STRATUS WILL BE PATCHY IN NATURE S OF POINT CONCEPTION...CONFINED MAINLY TO THE COASTAL PLAIN. N OF PT CONCEPTION...EXPECT WDSPRD IFR CIGS THROUGH 17Z. THERE WILL BE SOME LL WIND SHEAR NEAR KSBA THROUGH 12Z. KLAX...THERE IS A 70 PERCENT CHANCE OF LOW CLOUDS AND FOG WITH IFR OR LOW MVFR CIGS AND MVFR VSBYS BETWEEN 11Z AND 17Z. KBUR...HIGH CONFIDENCE IN CLEAR SKIES THROUGH SATURDAY. && .LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY (SEE LAXMWWLOX). && $$ PUBLIC...KAPLAN/WOFFORD AVIATION...SWEET WWW.WEATHER.GOV/LOSANGELES
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS UPTON NY
929 AM EDT SAT SEP 20 2008 .SYNOPSIS... LARGE HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE WILL FINALLY GIVE WAY TO A WEAK COLD FRONT LATE SUNDAY. THIS FRONT WILL SLOWLY MOVE THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY...THEN ANOTHER AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL SETTLE OVER THE AREA THROUGH MID WEEK. A DEVELOPING COASTAL LOW MAY APPROACH THE AREA LATE IN THE WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... MORNING SOUNDING SHOWS VERY STABLE ATMOSPHERE WITH STRONG SUBSIDENCE ALOFT AS SEEN ON WATER VAPOR IMAGERY AS WELL. LOW LEVEL MOISTURE BELOW THE INVERSION SEEN ON SOUNDING AND ACARS/TAMDAR PROFILES PRODUCING STRATUS SOUTH OF LONG ISLAND...BUT SPILLING UP INTO QUEENS AND NASSAU. DUE TO HEATING...FEEL THAT RUC AND NAM SOUNDINGS ARE CORRECT IN MIXING THESE CLOUDS OUT TO SCATTERED. WITH A GOOD DEAL OF SUNSHINE THIS AFTERNOON...TEMPERATURES WILL WARM A FEW DEGREES HIGHER THAN WHAT WAS OBSERVED YESTERDAY DUE TO WEAKER EASTERLY LOW LEVEL FLOW...AND THUS DEEPER MIXED LAYER. MOS/LAV NUMBERS CONTINUE TO LOOK GOOD. SEE TIDE SECTION BELOW FOR THE MINOR COASTAL FLOOD CONCERN. MODERATE RIPS AT THE OCEAN BEACHES. SEE MARINE SECTION. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH MONDAY/... AS THE RIDGE SETTLES OVER THE AREA AND WEAK FRONT APPROACHES FROM THE NORTHWEST...LOW LEVEL EASTERLY FLOW WILL END. AS SUCH...SKIES WILL REMAIN CLEAR TONIGHT. UPPER TROUGH THAT REMAINS WELL TO THE NORTH WILL SLOWLY PROGRESS EAST ACROSS SOUTHEAST CANADA. AT THE SURFACE...WEAK FRONT BETWEEN RIDGE TO THE SOUTH AND NEXT AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE UP IN CENTRAL CANADA WILL APPROACH THE REGION. THIS WILL OCCUR LATER SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT. AN INCREASE IN LOW LEVEL MOISTURE POOLING AHEAD OF FRONT...AND WEAK FORCING COULD TRIGGER AN ISOLATED SHOWER OR SPRINKLE. BEST TIME FOR ANY PRECIP LOOKS TO BE SUNDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY MONDAY. THEN RIDGE PREDOMINATES LATER MONDAY...AND ATMOSPHERE DRIES OUT QUICKLY. TEMPS...SEASONABLE NIGHT TONIGHT...THEN WARMER AIR SWEEPS IN AHEAD OF SFC FRONT SUNDAY. 950 HPA TEMPS WARM FROM 12-13C SATURDAY (EASTERLY LOW LEVEL FLOW) TO 18-19C SUNDAY. EXPECTED CLOUD COVER SUNDAY NIGHT WILL KEEP READINGS A TAD HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS NIGHTS...BUT MONDAY SHOULD BE QUITE COOL AS CLOUDS LINGER AND NORTHEAST FLOW SETS UP ONCE AGAIN. && .LONG TERM /MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY/... BUILDING HIGH PRESSURE WILL RESULT IN ANOTHER STRETCH OF DRY WEATHER THROUGH AT LEAST THU. PERSISTENT NE-E CAN BE EXPECTED THROUGH THE PERIOD AS THE HIGH REMAINS ANCHORED NORTH OF THE AREA. THERE CONTINUES TO MODEL UNCERTAINTY ABOUT HOW CLOSE A LOW OFF THE SE COAST WILL APPROACH IN THE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY TIME FRAME. LATEST GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THAT RIDGING WILL REMAIN FIRMLY IN PLACE DURING THE PERIOD...RESULTING IN A MORE EASTERLY TRACK OF THE SURFACE LOW. GIVEN UNCERTAINTY REGARDING THIS SURFACE LOW...HAVE KEPT POPS LOW FOR THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT. && .AVIATION /13Z SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... OVERALL...VFR WITH HIGH PRESSURE. PAN-CAKE STRATO-CU DUE TO SURFACE HEATING WILL BE BROKEN AT TIMES THIS AM ON LONG ISLAND. BASES OF 025 EARLY RISE BY THIS AFTERNOON. WINDS ARE TRICKY AS THE REGION IS IN A TUG OF WAR BETWEEN A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE THAT RUNS ALONG AND JUST INSIDE OF THE I-95 CORRIDOR...AND OFFSHORE LOW OVER THE ATLANTIC. WILL KEEP A GENERAL NE-E FLOW ACROSS THE AREA....AS I EXPECT THE RIDGE AXIS TO REMAIN TO OUR NORTH...WITH JUST ENOUGH INFLUENCE FROM THE OFFSHORE LOW TO KEEP THE FLOW FROM TURNING MORE ONSHORE. SPEEDS STAY LESS THAN 10 KT. NYC METRO WINDS...LGA EXPECTED TO HOLD ITS TYPICAL NE DIRECTION THROUGH THE AFTERNOON WHILE JFK FLIPS OVER TO SOUTHERLY SEA BREEZE. KEWR MAY BE MORE VARIABLE...BUT FORECASTING A MORE SOUTHERLY FLOW BASED ON LATEST DATA AND COLLABORATION WITH ZNY. LOW CONFIDENCE ON TIMING OF DIRECTION/RUNWAY CONFIG CHANGE AT KEWR. THEREAFTER...PRESSURE PATTERN...AND AS A RESULT WINDS...BECOME LIGHT AND ERRATIC THIS EVENING...BEFORE A BIT BETTER DEFINED NORTHWEST FLOW DEVELOPS AROUND OR AFTER MIDNIGHT. EXPECT A LIGHTER ONSHORE FLOW AT SEA BREEZE TERMINALS WITH VRB AROUND 5 KT ELSEWHERE FROM 23-00Z THROUGH 03-05Z. OUTLOOK FOR 12Z SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY...HI PRES OVER THE REGION THROUGH WED WITH MAINLY VFR CONDITIONS. A WEAK CDFNT SUN NIGHT/MON TIME FRAME. ATTM FRONT LOOKS DRY WITH A CHANCE FOR MVFR CIGS AT TIMES WITH NELY FLOW BEHIND THE FRONT. && .MARINE... THE AREA REMAINS SANDWICHED BETWEEN INLAND RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE AND AN OFFSHORE LOW EAST OF THE CAROLINAS. THIS WILL KEEP A FAIRLY PERSISTENT NE-E FLOW IN PLACE. WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO GRADUALLY DIMINISH TODAY...BUT SEAS SHOULD REMAIN ABOVE SCA THRESHOLDS INTO SUN. HAVE UNDERCUT WAVEWATCH III...BUT WILL KEEP 4 TO 6 FT ON OCEAN WATERS TODAY AND 3 TO 5 FT TONIGHT INTO SUNDAY. THE PERSISTENT EASTERLY COMPONENT TO THE WINDS...A WEAK EASTERLY SWELL AND LARGE BREAKING WAVES WILL RESULT IN A MODERATE RISK OF RIP CURRENTS ALONG NEW YORK ATLANTIC BEACHES TODAY. AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF SCA CONDITIONS IS LIKELY TO RETURN TO THE OCEAN WATERS AFTER COLD FROPA ON MON...AS THE AREA ONCE AGAIN BECOMES SANDWICHED BETWEEN ANOTHER STRONG INLAND HIGH...AND A COASTAL LOW DEVELOPING ALONG THE SOUTHEAST COAST...WITH A PERSISTENT NE-E FLOW OVER THE WATERS KEEPING MAX OCEAN SEAS 5+ FEET. && .HYDROLOGY... NO SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL EXPECTED. && .TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING... LATEST DATA SHOWING WATER LEVELS ARE BETWEEN 0 AND 0.75 FT ABOVE ASTRONOMICAL. NO PROBLEMS FORESEEN - THOUGH WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR. THE TIDE CYCLE OF CONCERN IS MIDDAY HIGH TIDE CYCLE...WHICH IS THE HIGHER OF THE TWO DAILY HIGH TIDES. ASTRONOMICAL TIDES REMAIN HIGH...AND A DEPARTURE OF ONLY ABOUT 1.0 FT IS NEEDED TO REACH MINOR COASTAL FLOODING BENCHMARKS. FEEL THAT WE WILL FALL SHORT OF THIS TODAY DUE TO THE COMBINATION OF A MORE NORTHEAST FLOW THIS MORNING AND A DECREASING WIND SPEED AS THE DAY PROGRESSES. THE DEPARTURES FOR THE HIGH TIDE CYCLE OVERNIGHT WERE LESS THAN YESTERDAY...AND EXPECT THE DECREASING DEPARTURE THEME TO CONTINUE. MOST LOCALES WILL REMAIN SAFELY BELOW (0.5 FT OR MORE) MINOR BENCHMARKS. HOWEVER...WE COULD COME CLOSE IN THE NASSAU SOUTH SHORE BACK BAYS. && .OKX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CT...NONE. NY...NONE. NJ...NONE. MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR HAZARDOUS SEAS UNTIL 4 PM EDT SUNDAY FOR ANZ350-353-355. && $$ SYNOPSIS...PW NEAR TERM...JST/PW SHORT TERM...PW LONG TERM...MAS AVIATION...JST MARINE... HYDROLOGY... TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING...
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATE
NWS MARQUETTE MI
720 PM EDT SUN SEP 21 2008 UPDATED FOR 00Z TAF ISSUANCE .SYNOPSIS... 18Z WATER VAPOR LOOP AND RUC 500MB HEIGHT ANALYSIS SHOWED TROUGHING FROM THE NE PACIFIC INTO THE NORTHWESTERN U.S....RIDGING FROM THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES INTO SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA...AND TROUGHING OVER SE CANADA. SUBSIDENCE UNDER THE UPPER RIDGE HAS GENERALLY PREVENTED ANY PCPN FROM OCCURRING OVER THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES...EXCEPT FOR MAYBE SOME SPRINKLES OVER WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR AS SEEN ON RADAR IMAGERY. THESE SPRINKLES ARE ASSOCIATED WITH A BAND OF MID-LEVEL FRONTOGENESIS AND ACCAS...WHICH STRETCHES FROM NW ONTARIO INTO WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR. OTHER CLOUDS OF THE LOW STRATUS VARIETY COVER SOUTH CENTRAL UPPER MI ACROSS CENTRAL LAKE MI AND CENTRAL LOWER MI. THE STRATUS HAS BEEN VERY STUBBORN TO MIX OUT...AND THE 16Z TAMDAR SOUNDING FROM RHI SHOWS WHY WITH A STRONG INVERSION AT 900MB. HOWEVER...THE MOISTURE PROFILE AND OBSERVATIONS FROM IMT INDICATE THAT THE DECK HAS THINNED FROM 1500 FT TO AROUND 600 FT NOW... SUGGESTING MIXING IS HAVING AN IMPACT. VISIBLE SATELLITE NOW INDICATING HOLES IN THE STRATUS. AT THE SFC...1032MB HIGH PRESSURE IS OVER EASTERN ONTARIO. SE FLOW AROUND THE HIGH IS GRADUALLY BRINGING WARMER AIR INTO UPPER MI...WITH 850MB TEMPS PER RUC ANALYSIS OF 11C AT IWD AND 7C AT ERY. LACK OF SIGNIFICANT WIND HAS PREVENTED MIXING TO THIS LEVEL. STRONGER SOUTHERLY WINDS ARE LURKING OFF TO THE WEST ACROSS THE PLAINS...WHICH ARE OCCURRING AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT ALONG THE LEE OF THE ROCKIES. SOME SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE ALSO AHEAD OF THE FRONT IN CENTRAL SOUTH DAKOTA. DEWPOINTS IN THE UPPER 50S/LOW 60S CAN BE SEEN SPREADING NORTHWARD AHEAD OF THE FRONT AS WELL. && .SHORT TERM (TONIGHT AND MONDAY)... UPPER TROUGH OVER THE NORTHWEST U.S. WILL BE LIFTING TO THE NORTHEAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS...CAUSING THE UPPER RIDGE AXIS WHICH EXTENDS FROM SE MN INTO CENTRAL SASKATCHEWAN TO MOVE OVER UPPER MI AROUND 18Z. AS THIS RIDGE AXIS MOVES CLOSER TONIGHT AND WARM ADVECTION INCREASES IN RESPONSE TO THE DIURNAL EFFECTS OF THE LOW LEVEL JET...THE MID CLOUDS OVER WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR INTO NW ONTARIO MAY EXPAND SOME INTO UPPER MI. THE BEST EXPANSION...AND POSSIBLE PCPN...SHOULD BE CONFINED TO FAR NORTHERN LAKE SUPERIOR INTO NORTHERN ONTARIO AS INDICATED BY 850MB THETA-E ADVECTION AND MOISTURE TRANSPORT VECTORS. CLOUDS OVER SOUTH CENTRAL UPPER MI AND CENTRAL LOWER MI ARE SOMEWHAT CONCERNING...SINCE THEY HAVE STRUGGLED TO DISSIPATE. WILL GO UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THEY WILL AT LEAST BECOME SCATTERED BY THE TIME THE SUN DISSIPATES. AS THE WINDS TURN A BIT MORE SOUTHERLY...THE CLOUDS SHOULD IMPACT THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN U.P.. THEREFORE...SKY COVER FORECAST IS GENERALLY MOSTLY CLOUDY FOR MUCH OF UPPER MI...EXCLUDING THE FAR WESTERN U.P.. DID ADD SOME PATCHY FOG AS WELL...IN THE EVENT THE LOW CLOUDS DISSIPATE MORE AND THAT MORE MOISTURE WILL BE BROUGHT UP INTO THE CWA. PATCHY FOG IS ASSIGNED TO THE AREAS WITH THE LIGHTEST WINDS...WHICH IN THIS CASE IS THE SOUTH CENTRAL U.P.. REGARDING LOW TEMPERATURES...COOLEST READINGS EXPECTED IN THE AREAS WITH LIGHT WINDS...BUT CLOUDS AND MORE MOISTURE SHOULD PREVENT TEMPS FROM DROPPING AS LOW AS LAST NIGHT. PREVIOUS LOW TEMPERATURE FORECAST SEEMS REASONABLE. ON MONDAY...WARM ADVECTION MID CLOUDS...AND WHATEVER LOW CLOUDS MIGHT BE AROUND...WILL PUSH EASTWARD THROUGH THE DAY WITH THE RIDGE AXIS BUILDING IN. SOME HIGH CLOUDS MAY ALSO ENTER THE PICTURE...ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONVECTION IN CENTRAL SOUTH DAKOTA THAT MODELS PROG MOVING INTO UPPER MI. THICKER CLOUD COVER ASSOCIATED WITH HEIGHT FALLS ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE RIDGE AXIS WILL MOVE INTO FAR WESTERN UPPER MI LATE. NO PCPN IS FORECAST...THOUGH THERE MAY BE SOME DIURNAL DRIVEN CONVECTION OVER NORTH CENTRAL WI CLOSE TO THE BORDER AS INDICATED BY THE GFS/NAM QPF FIELDS. THIS CONVECTION MAKES SENSE AS WELL... LOOKING TO THE SOUTH OVER NRN IL WHERE THE MOISTURE IS COMING FROM (CONVECTION OCCURRING NORTH OF BLOOMINGTON/NORMAL IL). WITH 850MB TEMPS AROUND 12C AND A SOUTHERLY BREEZE...TEMPERATURES WILL END UP WARMER THAN TODAY...PERHAPS 5 DEGREES OR SO. ONLY SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS WERE MADE TO THE PREVIOUS HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST. && .LONG TERM (MON NIGHT THROUGH NEXT SUN)... SOUTHERLY FLOW AHEAD OF WEDNESDAY/S FRONTAL PASSAGE WILL YIELD A WARM MONDAY NIGHT AS TEMPS ONLY DROP INTO THE LOW TO UPPER 50S. FOR TUESDAY...INCREASING CLOUD COVER WILL KEEP HIGHS IN THE LOW TO MID 70S...UPPER 60S ALONG THE LAKE INFLUENCED NORTH SHORE OF LAKE MICHIGAN. 850 TEMPS AROUND 14C WOULD SUGGEST HIGHS IN THE UPPER 70S TO NEAR 80 WITH MINIMAL CLOUD COVER. THINK CLOUDS WILL KEEP TEMPS IN CHECK THOUGH. BY TUESDAY AFTN/EVENING...ATTENTION TURNS TO PRECIPITATION CHANCES OUT WEST. GIVEN MODELS SLOWER TRENDS NOTED BY PREVIOUS SHIFT...DIDN/T FEEL COMFORTABLE EXTENDING HIGHER POPS TOO FAR EAST...THOUGH 15Z SREF WOULD SUGGEST THAT EXTENDING HIGHER POPS INTO MARQUETTE AND MENOMINEE COUNTIES WOULD BE FAIRLY SAFE. WILL LET NEXT SHIFT TOY WITH THIS. WITH ALL THAT IN MIND...KEPT LIKELY POPS OVER FAR WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR FOR THE AFTERNOON. BY THE EVENING HOURS...MODEL GUIDANCE SUGGESTS DIMINISHING TREND IN PRECIPITATION AS THE FEATURE MOVES EAST ACROSS THE FA. BECAUSE THIS APPEARS TO OCCUR MORE OFTEN THAN NOT...DECIDED TO ONLY INCLUDE POPS UP TO 50S IN THE WESTERN ZONES...AND NO HIGHER THAN 30 FOR THE CENTRAL AND EAST. STRONG SUBSIDENCE AND DRYING BEHIND FRONT WILL ALLOW FOR PRECIPITATION TO END IN THE LATE MORNING ACROSS THE WEST HALF AND IN THE EAST BY EARLY EVENING. AGAIN WILL HAVE TO WATCH IF MODELS CONTINUE TO TREND SLOWER WITH FRONT FOR TIMING THE EXIT OF PRECIP. LOWERED MIN TEMPS FOR WEDNESDAY NIGHT BEHIND THE FRONT. PWAT/S DROP TO AROUND A HALF INCH...THIS ALONG WITH INCREASING ANTICYCLONIC FLOW/MINIMAL CLOUD COVER WILL ALLOW TEMPS TO FALL INTO THE LOW 40S IN PLACES...PERHAPS EVEN COOLER IF AIRMASS VERIFIES DRIER THAN IS CURRENTLY PROGGED. THE NEXT FEATURE OF INTEREST IS A FRONT PROGGED TO PASS THROUGH THE FA SOMETIME EARLY NEXT WEEKEND. ALOT OF UNCERTAINTY WITH THE TIMING OF THIS FEATURE AND THEREAFTER. KEPT FCST THE SAME FOR THE EXTENDED PERIODS...DAYS 4 THROUGH 7 AS A RESULT. POTENTIAL TROPICAL WAVE CURRENTLY NEAR PUERTO RICO INTERACTS WITH LONGWAVE PATTERN FOR LATE NEXT WEEKEND. AS A RESULT LONG RANGE MODELS PROVIDE DIFFERING SOLUTIONS...THOUGH BOTH HINT AT COOLER WEATHER BY MID NEXT WEEK. && .AVIATION (FOR THE 00Z TAF ISSUANCE)... LINGERING SC OVER THE CNTRL U.P. WL IMPACT BOTH SITES THRU THE EVNG...WITH MVFR CIGS AT SAW. OTRW...SLY FLOW ON THE WRN FLANK OF HI PRES RDG TO THE E SHOULD DRAW MSTR/LO CLD NOW APRNT OVER LK MI/LWR MI N TO BRING SOME FOG INTO SAW...WHICH WL LIFT INTO A SC DECK ON MON MRNG AFT SUNRISE BEFORE DAYTIME HTG/MIXING BREAKS UP THIS LO CLD. DOWNSLOPE NATURE OF THIS FLOW SHOULD RESTRICT FOG/LO CLD DVLPMNT AT CMX. PLAN ON VFR CONDITIONS MON AFTN AFT ANY MRNG LO CLD MIXES OUT. && .MARINE (FOR THE 4 PM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE)... HIGH PRESSURE OVER EASTERN ONTARIO WILL MOVE TO THE EAST...REACHING NEW ENGLAND MONDAY NIGHT. SOUTHERLY WINDS ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE HIGH ARE EXPECTED TO INCREASE ON CENTRAL AND EASTERN LAKE SUPERIOR TO 15 TO 25 KT...AND GENERALLY STAY THAT WAY THROUGH MONDAY. SOUTH WINDS WILL INCREASE ACROSS ALL OF LAKE SUPERIOR MON NIGHT INTO TUE AS A COLD FRONT APPROACHES FROM THE PLAINS. LOOK FOR SPEEDS TO REACH 15 TO 30 KT...WITH THE HIGHEST WINDS ON EASTERN LAKE SUPERIOR TUE AFTERNOON AND TUE NIGHT. AS THE FRONT CROSSES TUE NIGHT...WINDS SWITCH TO THE SOUTHWEST AND WEST...WITH SPEEDS UP TO 25 KT...ESPECIALLY OVER NORTH CENTRAL LAKE SUPERIOR LATE TUE NIGHT INTO WED. AN AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE SHOULD BUILD ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR WED NIGHT BEHIND THE FRONT TO LOWER WINDS BELOW 20 KT. AS THIS HIGH HEADS TO THE EAST THURSDAY...EXPECT SOUTHERLY WINDS TO INCREASE AGAIN WITH SPEEDS UP TO 30 KT POSSIBLE THU NIGHT AND FRI...STRONGEST ON EASTERN LAKE SUPERIOR. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN...NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR...NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS/SHORT TERM...AJ LONG TERM...PEARSON AVIATION...KC MARINE...AJ
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
348 PM EDT SUN SEP 21 2008 .SYNOPSIS... 18Z WATER VAPOR LOOP AND RUC 500MB HEIGHT ANALYSIS SHOWED TROUGHING FROM THE NE PACIFIC INTO THE NORTHWESTERN U.S....RIDGING FROM THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES INTO SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA...AND TROUGHING OVER SE CANADA. SUBSIDENCE UNDER THE UPPER RIDGE HAS GENERALLY PREVENTED ANY PCPN FROM OCCURRING OVER THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES...EXCEPT FOR MAYBE SOME SPRINKLES OVER WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR AS SEEN ON RADAR IMAGERY. THESE SPRINKLES ARE ASSOCIATED WITH A BAND OF MID-LEVEL FRONTOGENESIS AND ACCAS...WHICH STRETCHES FROM NW ONTARIO INTO WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR. OTHER CLOUDS OF THE LOW STRATUS VARIETY COVER SOUTH CENTRAL UPPER MI ACROSS CENTRAL LAKE MI AND CENTRAL LOWER MI. THE STRATUS HAS BEEN VERY STUBBORN TO MIX OUT...AND THE 16Z TAMDAR SOUNDING FROM RHI SHOWS WHY WITH A STRONG INVERSION AT 900MB. HOWEVER...THE MOISTURE PROFILE AND OBSERVATIONS FROM IMT INDICATE THAT THE DECK HAS THINNED FROM 1500 FT TO AROUND 600 FT NOW... SUGGESTING MIXING IS HAVING AN IMPACT. VISIBLE SATELLITE NOW INDICATING HOLES IN THE STRATUS. AT THE SFC...1032MB HIGH PRESSURE IS OVER EASTERN ONTARIO. SE FLOW AROUND THE HIGH IS GRADUALLY BRINGING WARMER AIR INTO UPPER MI...WITH 850MB TEMPS PER RUC ANALYSIS OF 11C AT IWD AND 7C AT ERY. LACK OF SIGNIFICANT WIND HAS PREVENTED MIXING TO THIS LEVEL. STRONGER SOUTHERLY WINDS ARE LURKING OFF TO THE WEST ACROSS THE PLAINS...WHICH ARE OCCURRING AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT ALONG THE LEE OF THE ROCKIES. SOME SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE ALSO AHEAD OF THE FRONT IN CENTRAL SOUTH DAKOTA. DEWPOINTS IN THE UPPER 50S/LOW 60S CAN BE SEEN SPREADING NORTHWARD AHEAD OF THE FRONT AS WELL. && .SHORT TERM (TONIGHT AND MONDAY)... UPPER TROUGH OVER THE NORTHWEST U.S. WILL BE LIFTING TO THE NORTHEAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS...CAUSING THE UPPER RIDGE AXIS WHICH EXTENDS FROM SE MN INTO CENTRAL SASKATCHEWAN TO MOVE OVER UPPER MI AROUND 18Z. AS THIS RIDGE AXIS MOVES CLOSER TONIGHT AND WARM ADVECTION INCREASES IN RESPONSE TO THE DIURNAL EFFECTS OF THE LOW LEVEL JET...THE MID CLOUDS OVER WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR INTO NW ONTARIO MAY EXPAND SOME INTO UPPER MI. THE BEST EXPANSION...AND POSSIBLE PCPN...SHOULD BE CONFINED TO FAR NORTHERN LAKE SUPERIOR INTO NORTHERN ONTARIO AS INDICATED BY 850MB THETA-E ADVECTION AND MOISTURE TRANSPORT VECTORS. CLOUDS OVER SOUTH CENTRAL UPPER MI AND CENTRAL LOWER MI ARE SOMEWHAT CONCERNING...SINCE THEY HAVE STRUGGLED TO DISSIPATE. WILL GO UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THEY WILL AT LEAST BECOME SCATTERED BY THE TIME THE SUN DISSIPATES. AS THE WINDS TURN A BIT MORE SOUTHERLY...THE CLOUDS SHOULD IMPACT THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN U.P.. THEREFORE...SKY COVER FORECAST IS GENERALLY MOSTLY CLOUDY FOR MUCH OF UPPER MI...EXCLUDING THE FAR WESTERN U.P.. DID ADD SOME PATCHY FOG AS WELL...IN THE EVENT THE LOW CLOUDS DISSIPATE MORE AND THAT MORE MOISTURE WILL BE BROUGHT UP INTO THE CWA. PATCHY FOG IS ASSIGNED TO THE AREAS WITH THE LIGHTEST WINDS...WHICH IN THIS CASE IS THE SOUTH CENTRAL U.P.. REGARDING LOW TEMPERATURES...COOLEST READINGS EXPECTED IN THE AREAS WITH LIGHT WINDS...BUT CLOUDS AND MORE MOISTURE SHOULD PREVENT TEMPS FROM DROPPING AS LOW AS LAST NIGHT. PREVIOUS LOW TEMPERATURE FORECAST SEEMS REASONABLE. ON MONDAY...WARM ADVECTION MID CLOUDS...AND WHATEVER LOW CLOUDS MIGHT BE AROUND...WILL PUSH EASTWARD THROUGH THE DAY WITH THE RIDGE AXIS BUILDING IN. SOME HIGH CLOUDS MAY ALSO ENTER THE PICTURE...ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONVECTION IN CENTRAL SOUTH DAKOTA THAT MODELS PROG MOVING INTO UPPER MI. THICKER CLOUD COVER ASSOCIATED WITH HEIGHT FALLS ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE RIDGE AXIS WILL MOVE INTO FAR WESTERN UPPER MI LATE. NO PCPN IS FORECAST...THOUGH THERE MAY BE SOME DIURNAL DRIVEN CONVECTION OVER NORTH CENTRAL WI CLOSE TO THE BORDER AS INDICATED BY THE GFS/NAM QPF FIELDS. THIS CONVECTION MAKES SENSE AS WELL... LOOKING TO THE SOUTH OVER NRN IL WHERE THE MOISTURE IS COMING FROM (CONVECTION OCCURRING NORTH OF BLOOMINGTON/NORMAL IL). WITH 850MB TEMPS AROUND 12C AND A SOUTHERLY BREEZE...TEMPERATURES WILL END UP WARMER THAN TODAY...PERHAPS 5 DEGREES OR SO. ONLY SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS WERE MADE TO THE PREVIOUS HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST. && .LONG TERM (MON NIGHT THROUGH NEXT SUN)... SOUTHERLY FLOW AHEAD OF WEDNESDAY/S FRONTAL PASSAGE WILL YIELD A WARM MONDAY NIGHT AS TEMPS ONLY DROP INTO THE LOW TO UPPER 50S. FOR TUESDAY...INCREASING CLOUD COVER WILL KEEP HIGHS IN THE LOW TO MID 70S...UPPER 60S ALONG THE LAKE INFLUENCED NORTH SHORE OF LAKE MICHIGAN. 850 TEMPS AROUND 14C WOULD SUGGEST HIGHS IN THE UPPER 70S TO NEAR 80 WITH MINIMAL CLOUD COVER. THINK CLOUDS WILL KEEP TEMPS IN CHECK THOUGH. BY TUESDAY AFTN/EVENING...ATTENTION TURNS TO PRECIPITATION CHANCES OUT WEST. GIVEN MODELS SLOWER TRENDS NOTED BY PREVIOUS SHIFT...DIDN/T FEEL COMFORTABLE EXTENDING HIGHER POPS TOO FAR EAST...THOUGH 15Z SREF WOULD SUGGEST THAT EXTENDING HIGHER POPS INTO MARQUETTE AND MENOMINEE COUNTIES WOULD BE FAIRLY SAFE. WILL LET NEXT SHIFT TOY WITH THIS. WITH ALL THAT IN MIND...KEPT LIKELY POPS OVER FAR WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR FOR THE AFTERNOON. BY THE EVENING HOURS...MODEL GUIDANCE SUGGESTS DIMINISHING TREND IN PRECIPITATION AS THE FEATURE MOVES EAST ACROSS THE FA. BECAUSE THIS APPEARS TO OCCUR MORE OFTEN THAN NOT...DECIDED TO ONLY INCLUDE POPS UP TO 50S IN THE WESTERN ZONES...AND NO HIGHER THAN 30 FOR THE CENTRAL AND EAST. STRONG SUBSIDENCE AND DRYING BEHIND FRONT WILL ALLOW FOR PRECIPITATION TO END IN THE LATE MORNING ACROSS THE WEST HALF AND IN THE EAST BY EARLY EVENING. AGAIN WILL HAVE TO WATCH IF MODELS CONTINUE TO TREND SLOWER WITH FRONT FOR TIMING THE EXIT OF PRECIP. LOWERED MIN TEMPS FOR WEDNESDAY NIGHT BEHIND THE FRONT. PWAT/S DROP TO AROUND A HALF INCH...THIS ALONG WITH INCREASING ANTICYCLONIC FLOW/MINIMAL CLOUD COVER WILL ALLOW TEMPS TO FALL INTO THE LOW 40S IN PLACES...PERHAPS EVEN COOLER IF AIRMASS VERIFIES DRIER THAN IS CURRENTLY PROGGED. THE NEXT FEATURE OF INTEREST IS A FRONT PROGGED TO PASS THROUGH THE FA SOMETIME EARLY NEXT WEEKEND. ALOT OF UNCERTAINTY WITH THE TIMING OF THIS FEATURE AND THEREAFTER. KEPT FCST THE SAME FOR THE EXTENDED PERIODS...DAYS 4 THROUGH 7 AS A RESULT. POTENTIAL TROPICAL WAVE CURRENTLY NEAR PUERTO RICO INTERACTS WITH LONGWAVE PATTERN FOR LATE NEXT WEEKEND. AS A RESULT LONG RANGE MODELS PROVIDE DIFFERING SOLUTIONS...THOUGH BOTH HINT AT COOLER WEATHER BY MID NEXT WEEK. && .AVIATION (FOR THE 18Z TAF ISSUANCE)... CLOUD DECK OVER THE SOUTH CENTRAL U.P. CONTINUES TO BE STUBBORN IN MIXING OUT...AND HAS ENTERED SAW DURING THE PAST TWO HOURS WITH THE WINDS TURNING SOUTHEAST. CLOUD DECK IS THINNER ON LATEST AIRCRAFT SOUNDINGS...SUGGESTED NOW ONLY AROUND 600 FT COMPARED TO 1500 FT AT 13Z. THEREFORE...THE CLOUDS SHOULD BEGIN TO BREAK UP WITHIN A FEW MORE HOURS...AND SO THE TAF FORECAST FOR SAW ONLY INDICATES A TEMPO BKN DECK...ESPECIALLY SINCE SAW IS ON THE EDGE OF THE CLOUDS. OTHERWISE...SOME MID AND HIGH CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED TO AFFECT BOTH TAF SITES THROUGH THE FORECAST PERIOD. THERE COULD BE SOME RADIATIONAL MVFR BR DEVELOPING AT SAW LATE TONIGHT WITH LIGHT WINDS AND TEMPS DROPPING TO THE DEWPOINTS...AND SINCE STATISTICAL GUIDANCE HAS BEEN PERSISTENT IN INDICATING THE BR...HAVE WENT WITH IT FOR THE FORECAST. && .MARINE (FOR THE 4 PM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE)... HIGH PRESSURE OVER EASTERN ONTARIO WILL MOVE TO THE EAST...REACHING NEW ENGLAND MONDAY NIGHT. SOUTHERLY WINDS ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE HIGH ARE EXPECTED TO INCREASE ON CENTRAL AND EASTERN LAKE SUPERIOR TO 15 TO 25 KT...AND GENERALLY STAY THAT WAY THROUGH MONDAY. SOUTH WINDS WILL INCREASE ACROSS ALL OF LAKE SUPERIOR MON NIGHT INTO TUE AS A COLD FRONT APPROACHES FROM THE PLAINS. LOOK FOR SPEEDS TO REACH 15 TO 30 KT...WITH THE HIGHEST WINDS ON EASTERN LAKE SUPERIOR TUE AFTERNOON AND TUE NIGHT. AS THE FRONT CROSSES TUE NIGHT...WINDS SWITCH TO THE SOUTHWEST AND WEST...WITH SPEEDS UP TO 25 KT...ESPECIALLY OVER NORTH CENTRAL LAKE SUPERIOR LATE TUE NIGHT INTO WED. AN AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE SHOULD BUILD ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR WED NIGHT BEHIND THE FRONT TO LOWER WINDS BELOW 20 KT. AS THIS HIGH HEADS TO THE EAST THURSDAY...EXPECT SOUTHERLY WINDS TO INCREASE AGAIN WITH SPEEDS UP TO 30 KT POSSIBLE THU NIGHT AND FRI...STRONGEST ON EASTERN LAKE SUPERIOR. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN...NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR...NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS/SHORT TERM...AJ LONG TERM...PEARSON AVIATION...AJ MARINE...AJ
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GRAND RAPIDS MI
151 PM EDT SUN SEP 21 2008 LATEST UPDATE...AVIATION... .SYNOPSIS...(345 AM EDT SUN SEP 21 2008) WE WILL START THE DAY OFF WITH SOME PATCHY EARLY MORNING FOG WHICH WILL BURN OFF QUICKLY BY MID MORNING. A FEW SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE POSSIBLE THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING NEAR AND MAINLY SOUTH OF INTERSTATE 96. A HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE TO OUR NORTHEAST WILL PRODUCE FAIR WEATHER AND SEASONABLY MILD TEMPERATURES MONDAY AND TUESDAY. && .SHORT TERM...(100 PM EDT SUN SEP 21 2008) (THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH TUESDAY AFTERNOON) I HAVE TO SAY I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED FOR THIS AFTERNOON AFTER LOOKING AT TAMDAR AND GFS AND NAM SOUNDINGS FOR THIS AFTERNOON. THE FRONT IS CURRENTLY CLEARING VAN BUREN COUNTY (NOON). THERE IS A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF LOW CLOUDS AROUND. MOSTLY THOSE ARE NORTH OF INTERSTATE 96. THAT WILL ALLOW FOR DECENT HEATING NEAR INTERSTATE 94 THIS AFTERNOON. SOUNDING (TAMDAR...GFS AND NAM) SUGGEST IF WE CAN GET TO 76F WE COULD LIFT PARCELS TO 36000 FT AND CLOUD TOPS WOULD BE NEAR 45000 FT BTW 2 PM AND 8 PM. THERE IS A LITTLE NEGATIVE AREA TO OVERCOME THOUGH NEAR 5000 FT. THE GFS SOUNDING SHOW AS MUCH AS 1700 J/KG OF CAPE IF WE CAN GET THE PARCELS THROUGH THE CAP. ALL I CAN SAY AT THIS POINT IS IF WE COULD GET A LAKE BREEZE OVER THE SOUTHERN CWA (12 NOON SFC LI ALREADY -5C ON MSAS WEST OF I-196 SOUTH OF SOUTH HAVEN). WE WILL HAVE TO WATCH THIS CLOSELY. AFTER THAT WE MAY HAVE SOME FOG ISSUES TONIGHT HOWEVER THERE IS A 20 KNOT WIND IN THE BOUNDARY LAYER... THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO KEEP FOG FROM GETTING TO THICK BUT IT WOULD ALLOW FOR A LOW STATUS DECK. WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT TOO. HIGH PRESSURE AND FAIR WEATHER WILL RULE MON AFTERNOON THROUGH TUESDAY. && .LONG TERM...(345 AM EDT SUN SEP 21 2008) (TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY) THE LONG TERM PERIOD LOOKS TO BE MAINLY DRY AND ON THE WARM SIDE OF NORMAL. TEMPERATURES THROUGH THE PERIOD LOOK TO BE 5-10 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR WITH HIGHS IN THE UPPER 70S...POSSIBLY PUSHING 80 DEGREES. IN TERMS OF PRECIPITATION...THERE APPEARS TO BE TWO TIME FRAMES WHERE THERE IS A CHANCE IN AN OTHERWISE DRY REGIME (TUES NIGHT/WED AND FRI NIGHT/SAT). UPPER PATTERN WILL BEGIN THE PERIOD TUESDAY NIGHT WITH RIDGING. THE RIDGING GRADUALLY BREAKS DOWN INTO A MORE ZONAL FLOW BY WEDNESDAY NIGHT... PERSISTING THEN INTO THE WEEKEND. THE PROBLEM WITH PRECIPITATION CHANCES IS THAT ANY UPPER SUPPORT IN TERMS OF MID LEVEL SHORTWAVE TROUGHS ARE LOCATED WELL NORTH OF THE AREA. A SHORTWAVE MOVES INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST TUESDAY NIGHT/WEDNESDAY...PUSHING A FRONTAL BOUNDARY INTO THE AREA. THE FRONT LOSES PUNCH AS IT DRIFTS AWAY FROM THE UPPER SUPPORT AND BECOMES PARALLEL TO THE UPPER FLOW. LEFT A CHANCE OF PRECIP IN THE NORTH ON WEDNESDAY...BUT NOT CONFIDENT THAT MUCH WILL OCCUR. A SIMILAR SCENARIO DEVELOPS FRIDAY NIGHT/SATURDAY WITH ANOTHER BOUNDARY SAGGING INTO THE AREA AND WEAKENING. LEFT THESE PERIODS DRY GIVEN THE UPHILL BATTLE THE PRECIPITATION WILL BE FIGHTING (NO UPPER SUPPORT AND A LACK OF DEEP MOISTURE). && .MARINE...(345 AM EDT SUN SEP 21 2008) FAIRLY LIGHT WINDS WITH AN EASTERLY COMPONENT WILL RESULT IN RATHER MINIMAL WAVE ACTION ACROSS OUR NEARSHORE WATERS THROUGH MONDAY. && .AVIATION...(151 PM EDT SAT SEP 21 2008) VIS SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS LOW CLOUDS AND FOG CONTINUING TO DISSIPATE. EXPECT SOME CU TO FORM THIS AFTERNOON IN IT/S PLACE. EXPECTING CU TO DISSIPATE AFTER SUNSET. LIGHT WINDS FROM RIDGE OVERHEAD AND LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WILL HELP TO PRODUCE FOG AGAIN OVERNIGHT. EXPECT VSBYS TO FALL TO 2-3 MILES IN MOST PLACES OVERNIGHT BEFORE RECOVERING MON MORNING. && .HYDROLOGY...(345 AM EDT SUN SEP 21 2008) VERY LITTLE IF ANY RAINFALL THROUGH THE UPCOMING WEEK WILL REMAIN QUITE CONDUCIVE TO CONTINUED LOWERING OF RIVER LEVELS ACROSS OUR HSA. && .GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS: LAURENS SHORT TERM: WDM LONG TERM: DUKE MARINE: LAURENS AVIATION: 93 HYDROLOGY: LAURENS
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS MARQUETTE MI
143 PM EDT SUN SEP 21 2008 UPDATED AVIATION DISCUSSION FOR 18Z TAF ISSUANCE .DISCUSSION... SURFACE HIGH IS CURRENTLY CENTERED OVER CENTRAL ONTARIO. PUSH OF COOLER AIR BEING SHUNTED A BIT MORE EASTWARD THAN SOUTHWARD ACROSS UPPER MICHIGAN THAN EARLIER THINKING. SHALLOW NATURE OF COOLER AIR HELPED TO PRODUCE A FAIRLY WIDESPREAD SC DECK NEAR THE WI BORDER WHICH LIMITED RADIATIONAL COOLING EFFECTS. IN ADDITION...SCT/BKN MID LEVEL CLOUDS ARE DROPPING SOUTHEASTWARD INTO WESTERN SECTIONS OF THE AREA. DRY AIR ADVECTION CONTINUE IN THE EAST AND THIS AREA WILL BE THE MOST SUSCEPTIBLE TO FROST EARLY THIS MORNING. SFC HIGH WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE EASTWARD TODAY WITH WINDS TURNING TO A MORE SOUTHERLY DIRECTION ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE HIGH. SCT/BKN MID LEVEL CLOUDS WILL CONTINUE TO MOVES ACROSS THE AREA TODAY WITH TEMPS EXPECTED TO BE SEASONABLE IN THE LOW/MID 60S. WARM ADVECTION REALLY BEGINS TO KICK IN LATE TONIGHT AND ON MONDAY AS GRADIENT BEGIN TO TIGHTEN BETWEEN DEPARTING SFC HIGH AND LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPING OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS AS UPPER TROFFING LIFTS OUT OF THE WESTERN U.S. EXPECT TEMPERATURES TO REMAIN ABOVE NORMAL FOR THE FIRST FULL WEEK OF FALL AS MEAN UPPER RIDGING HOLDS STRONG OVER THE GREAT LAKES. BEST CHANCE OF RAIN THIS WEEK WILL OCCUR MIDWEEK. WESTERN UPPER TROF AND ASSOCD SURFACE LOW WILL BE DEFLECTED UP INTO CENTRAL CANADA DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK. ASSOCD WEAK COLD FRONT WILL APPROACH UPPER MI LATE TUESDAY/TUE NIGHT. MODELS APPEAR TO BE TRENDING A BIT SLOWER WITH THE FRONTAL PROGRESSION. WILL NOT MAKE ANY MAJOR ADJUSTMENTS TO CURRENT POP FCST FOR TUESDAY BUT LATER SHIFTS MAY HAVE TO DELAY POPS A LITTLE IF TRENDS CONTINUE. AIRMASS BEHIND FRONT WILL STILL BE ABOVE NORMAL. WILL NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE WED AND BEYOND TIMEFRAME AT THIS TIME. && .AVIATION (FOR THE 18Z TAF ISSUANCE)... CLOUD DECK OVER THE SOUTH CENTRAL U.P. CONTINUES TO BE STUBBORN IN MIXING OUT...AND HAS ENTERED SAW DURING THE PAST TWO HOURS WITH THE WINDS TURNING SOUTHEAST. CLOUD DECK IS THINNER ON LATEST AIRCRAFT SOUNDINGS...SUGGESTED NOW ONLY AROUND 600 FT COMPARED TO 1500 FT AT 13Z. THEREFORE...THE CLOUDS SHOULD BEGIN TO BREAK UP WITHIN A FEW MORE HOURS...AND SO THE TAF FORECAST FOR SAW ONLY INDICATES A TEMPO BKN DECK...ESPECIALLY SINCE SAW IS ON THE EDGE OF THE CLOUDS. OTHERWISE...SOME MID AND HIGH CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED TO AFFECT BOTH TAF SITES THROUGH THE FORECAST PERIOD. THERE COULD BE SOME RADIATIONAL MVFR BR DEVELOPING AT SAW LATE TONIGHT WITH LIGHT WINDS AND TEMPS DROPPING TO THE DEWPOINTS...AND SINCE STATISTICAL GUIDANCE HAS BEEN PERSISTENT IN INDICATING THE BR...HAVE WENT WITH IT FOR THE FORECAST. && .MARINE (FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE)... HIGH PRESSURE CENTERED OVER ONTARIO WILL DRIFT SOUTHEAST INTO SOUTHERN QUEBEC AND NEW ENGLAND BY SUNDAY EVENING...AND WILL PERSIST IN THIS AREA THROUGH WEDNESDAY. THIS FEATURE WILL KEEP WINDS BELOW 20 KNOTS THROUGH MONDAY. APPROACHING COOL FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVING FROM THE CANADIAN PRAIRIE PROVINCES TOWARD HUDSON BAY EARLY IN THE WORK WEEK TO TIGHTEN THE PRESSURE GRADIENT OVER THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES MONDAY EVENING INTO TUESDAY. GUSTS TO 30 KNOTS POSSIBLE TUESDAY WITH WINDS GRADUALLY DIMINISHING WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY AS THE COOL FRONT MOVES IN. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN...NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR...NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN...NONE. && $$ DISCUSSION...MZ AVIATION...AJ MARINE...RJT
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GRAND RAPIDS MI
100 PM EDT SUN SEP 21 2008 LATEST UPDATE...SHORT TERM... .SYNOPSIS...(345 AM EDT SUN SEP 21 2008) WE WILL START THE DAY OFF WITH SOME PATCHY EARLY MORNING FOG WHICH WILL BURN OFF QUICKLY BY MID MORNING. A FEW SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE POSSIBLE THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING NEAR AND MAINLY SOUTH OF INTERSTATE 96. A HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE TO OUR NORTHEAST WILL PRODUCE FAIR WEATHER AND SEASONABLY MILD TEMPERATURES MONDAY AND TUESDAY. && .SHORT TERM...(100 PM EDT SUN SEP 21 2008) (THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH TUESDAY AFTERNOON) I HAVE TO SAY I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED FOR THIS AFTERNOON AFTER LOOKING AT TAMDAR AND GFS AND NAM SOUNDINGS FOR THIS AFTERNOON. THE FRONT IS CURRENTLY CLEARING VAN BUREN COUNTY (NOON). THERE IS A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF LOW CLOUDS AROUND. MOSTLY THOSE ARE NORTH OF INTERSTATE 96. THAT WILL ALLOW FOR DECENT HEATING NEAR INTERSTATE 94 THIS AFTERNOON. SOUNDING (TAMDAR...GFS AND NAM) SUGGEST IF WE CAN GET TO 76F WE COULD LIFT PARCELS TO 36000 FT AND CLOUD TOPS WOULD BE NEAR 45000 FT BTW 2 PM AND 8 PM. THERE IS A LITTLE NEGATIVE AREA TO OVERCOME THOUGH NEAR 5000 FT. THE GFS SOUNDING SHOW AS MUCH AS 1700 J/KG OF CAPE IF WE CAN GET THE PARCELS THROUGH THE CAP. ALL I CAN SAY AT THIS POINT IS IF WE COULD GET A LAKE BREEZE OVER THE SOUTHERN CWA (12 NOON SFC LI ALREADY -5C ON MSAS WEST OF I-196 SOUTH OF SOUTH HAVEN). WE WILL HAVE TO WATCH THIS CLOSELY. AFTER THAT WE MAY HAVE SOME FOG ISSUES TONIGHT HOWEVER THERE IS A 20 KNOT WIND IN THE BOUNDARY LAYER... THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO KEEP FOG FROM GETTING TO THICK BUT IT WOULD ALLOW FOR A LOW STATUS DECK. WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT TOO. HIGH PRESSURE AND FAIR WEATHER WILL RULE MON AFTERNOON THROUGH TUESDAY. && .LONG TERM...(345 AM EDT SUN SEP 21 2008) (TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY) THE LONG TERM PERIOD LOOKS TO BE MAINLY DRY AND ON THE WARM SIDE OF NORMAL. TEMPERATURES THROUGH THE PERIOD LOOK TO BE 5-10 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR WITH HIGHS IN THE UPPER 70S...POSSIBLY PUSHING 80 DEGREES. IN TERMS OF PRECIPITATION...THERE APPEARS TO BE TWO TIME FRAMES WHERE THERE IS A CHANCE IN AN OTHERWISE DRY REGIME (TUES NIGHT/WED AND FRI NIGHT/SAT). UPPER PATTERN WILL BEGIN THE PERIOD TUESDAY NIGHT WITH RIDGING. THE RIDGING GRADUALLY BREAKS DOWN INTO A MORE ZONAL FLOW BY WEDNESDAY NIGHT... PERSISTING THEN INTO THE WEEKEND. THE PROBLEM WITH PRECIPITATION CHANCES IS THAT ANY UPPER SUPPORT IN TERMS OF MID LEVEL SHORTWAVE TROUGHS ARE LOCATED WELL NORTH OF THE AREA. A SHORTWAVE MOVES INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST TUESDAY NIGHT/WEDNESDAY...PUSHING A FRONTAL BOUNDARY INTO THE AREA. THE FRONT LOSES PUNCH AS IT DRIFTS AWAY FROM THE UPPER SUPPORT AND BECOMES PARALLEL TO THE UPPER FLOW. LEFT A CHANCE OF PRECIP IN THE NORTH ON WEDNESDAY...BUT NOT CONFIDENT THAT MUCH WILL OCCUR. A SIMILAR SCENARIO DEVELOPS FRIDAY NIGHT/SATURDAY WITH ANOTHER BOUNDARY SAGGING INTO THE AREA AND WEAKENING. LEFT THESE PERIODS DRY GIVEN THE UPHILL BATTLE THE PRECIPITATION WILL BE FIGHTING (NO UPPER SUPPORT AND A LACK OF DEEP MOISTURE). && .MARINE...(345 AM EDT SUN SEP 21 2008) FAIRLY LIGHT WINDS WITH AN EASTERLY COMPONENT WILL RESULT IN RATHER MINIMAL WAVE ACTION ACROSS OUR NEARSHORE WATERS THROUGH MONDAY. && .AVIATION...(742 AM EDT SAT SEP 21 2008) VERY COMPLEX/DIFFICULT AVIATION SCENARIO THIS MORNING...AS LOW CLOUDS AND FOG SURGE SOUTHWEST ACROSS THE TAF SITES. VLIFR CONDITIONS ARE SURGING TOWARD KAZO AND KBTL AT THIS TIME...WITH VLIFR CONDITIONS IN PLACE AT KGRR AND KJXN. MOISTURE HAS SAGGED INTO THE AREA BEHIND A WEAK COLD FRONT AND THIS HAS SET THE STAGE FOR STRATUS AND FOG FORMATION. LOW CLOUDS AND FOG WILL NOW BEGIN TO DISSIPATE WITH SUNRISE NOW HAVING OCCURRED. THE FOG/STRATUS IS FAIRLY FORMIDABLE THOUGH SO THINK IT WILL HANG ON A FEW HOURS BEFORE BURNING OFF. EXPECT A PRETTY SOLID IMPROVEMENT DURING THE MID TO LATE MORNING HOURS. THE AFTERNOON SHOULD BE VFR FOR THE MOST PART...WITH THE MORNING LOW CLOUDS LIFTING INTO A BROKEN CUMULUS DECK BETWEEN 3500-5000FT. STRAY CHANCE FOR A SHOWER OR THUNDERSTORM AT ALL THE TAF SITES LATE IN THE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING...BUT TOO SMALL TO PUT IN THE TAFS AT THIS TIME. AT THIS POINT...HAVE VFR CONDITIONS IN THE TAFS OVERNIGHT...BUT HINTING AT SOME FOG REDEVELOPMENT WITH THE 6SM BR WORDING. && .HYDROLOGY...(345 AM EDT SUN SEP 21 2008) VERY LITTLE IF ANY RAINFALL THROUGH THE UPCOMING WEEK WILL REMAIN QUITE CONDUCIVE TO CONTINUED LOWERING OF RIVER LEVELS ACROSS OUR HSA. && .GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS: LAURENS SHORT TERM: WDM LONG TERM: DUKE MARINE: LAURENS AVIATION: DUKE HYDROLOGY: LAURENS
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS BURLINGTON VT
1028 AM EDT SAT SEP 20 2008 .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE WILL BE THE DOMINATE WEATHER FEATURE OVER THE NORTH COUNTRY TODAY...WITH SEASONABLY MILD TEMPERATURES AND MAINLY SUNNY SKIES. A WEAK COLD FRONT WILL CROSS THE REGION LATE TONIGHT INTO THE FIRST HALF OF SUNDAY WITH LITTLE FANFARE...OTHER THAN AN INCREASE IN CLOUDS AND A FEW LIGHT SHOWERS. STRONG HIGH PRESSURE THEN RETURNS WITH FAIR AND DRY WEATHER FOR MUCH OF NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 1028 AM EDT SATURDAY...MINOR UPDATE THIS MORNING...MAINLY TO REFLECT LATEST TRENDS IN TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE AREA. SFC HIGH PRESSURE CURRENTLY ORIENTED ALONG THE NORTHEASTERN SEABOARD WILL ALLOW LIGHT TO MODERATE SOUTH/SOUTHWEST FLOW TO CONTINUE ACROSS THE AREA TODAY UNDER MAINLY SUNNY SKIES. SOME HIGH AND THIN CLOUDS WILL TRAVERSE NORTHERN/WESTERN AREAS TODAY...BUT WITH LITTLE IMPACT. CURRENT HYSPLIT BACK-TRAJECTORY ANALYSIS FROM 500-1500M AND AVBL ACARS DATA FROM CYOW/CYUL THIS MORNING STILL SUPPORT MAX TEMPS IN THE U60S TO L70S AREA WIDE. PER LATEST SFC OBS...THESE VALUES REMAIN ON TRACK. BY TONIGHT...INCR CLD COVER BY NGTFALL FROM APPROACHING FRNT EXPECTED TO WORK IN FROM THE ST LAW VALLEY. THIS BACKDOOR FRNT IS MOISTURE- STARVED BUT SHOULD TRIGGER OFF A FEW LGT RW...ESPECIALLY FOR NORTHERN ZONES. HAVE COMTINUED MENTION OF FG IN VALLEY LOCALES ALONG WITH SOME PTCHY FROST IN HIR ELEV. && .SHORT TERM /SUNDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... AS OF 350 AM EDT SATURDAY...FRNT BEGINS TO FALL APART OVER THE REGION BY SUN MORNING...AS STRONG SFC RIDGE BEGINS TO PUSH EAST FROM THE GREAT LKS REGION. LINGERING CLDS/PRECIP WILL ERODE BY MORNING HRS FROM W TO E...W/ POSSIBLILITY OF CLD COVR REMAINING OVER E VT DUE TO ENE WINDS SETTING UP OVER AREA MON MORNING. 850 TEMPS ON CAA FROM N SIDE OF RIDGE WILL RANGE FROM 2C-4C...KEEPING EXPECTED HIGHS BLW NORMAL. && .LONG TERM /MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY/... AS OF 350 AM EDT SATURDAY...SFC RIDGE WILL CREST OVERHD MON NGT AND SLIDE SLOWLY EAST OFF THE COAST RIGHT THRU FRIDAY. DURING THIS TIME THE CWA WILL SEE A GENERAL INCR TREND IN TEMPS AS SSW WINDS WORK INTO THE AREA. NEXT SHOT AT PRECIPITATION WILL BE THURSDAY NGT AS WARM FRNT LIFTS OVER THE AREA...FOLLOWED BY CD FRNT LATE FRIDAY NGT. EXPECTING BREAK IN PRECIP BETWEEN FRNTS...SO WILL BRING IN DRY PERIOD. W/ INFLUENCE OF RIDGE IN PLACE OVER THE REGION...DRY AIRMASS WILL KEEP QPF DOWN ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA. && .AVIATION /14Z SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... THROUGH 12Z SUNDAY...AN ELONGATED AREA OF SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE EXTENDING FROM NOVA SCOTIA SWWD ACROSS THE GULF OF MAINE INTO SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND IS CONTRIBUTING TO LIGHT TO MODERATE SOUTHERLY WINDS ACROSS THE CHAMPLAIN VLY. MOST OUTLYING AREAS ARE DECOUPLED UNDER MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES...BUT ANTICIPATE BTV TO CONTINUE WITH SOUTH WINDS AT 5-10 KTS THROUGH 12Z. PATCHY DENSE FOG IS POSSIBLE TONIGHT IN THE SHELTERED VALLEYS...MITIGATED ONLY BY INCREASING HIGH CLOUDS DURING THE PRE-DAWN HOURS...WHICH WILL LIMIT RADIATIONAL COOLING SLIGHTLY. HAVE INCLUDED SOME VSBY REDUCTION IN THE TAFS AT MPV/SLK/MSS THROUGH 11-12Z THIS MORNING. DURING THE DAYLIGHT HOURS SATURDAY...LOOKING AT WIDESPREAD SOUTH TO SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS AROUND 10 KTS WITH GUSTS UP TO 20 KTS DURING THE 15-21Z TIME FRAME AS PBL BECOMES WELL MIXED. VFR CONDITIONS ARE OTHERWISE EXPECTED WITH JUST INCREASING CIRRUS CLOUDS. A COLD FRONT APPROACHING FROM THE NW AFTER 00Z WILL RESULT IN INCREASING CLOUDS IN THE 4-6KFT LAYER AND POSSIBLE LIGHT RAIN SHOWERS AT KMSS AND KSLK BEGINNING AROUND 04Z. LIGHT SHOWERS ARE POSSIBLE AT THE REMAINING TAF SITES AFTER 06Z. WINDS WILL SHIFT FROM SW-NW WITH FROPA AFTER 06Z...WITH DEVELOPING MVFR/ISOLD IFR CEILINGS FOLLOWING FRONTAL PASSAGE TOWARD DAYBREAK ON SUNDAY AS FRONT SHIFTS SOUTHWARD ACROSS THE REGION. 12Z SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY...CLOUDS DECREASE SUNDAY MORNING WITH A RETURN TO VFR CONDITIONS AND GENERALLY LIGHT WINDS FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. A LARGE AREA OF SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL DRIFT SLOWLY SEWD ACROSS THE AREA DURING THE TIME FRAME WITH GOOD AVIATION WX CONDITIONS EXPECTED. CLIMATOLOGICALLY FAVORED DENSE RADIATIONAL FOG IS LIKELY EACH MORNING FROM 06-12Z AT MPV AND POSSIBLE ALSO AT KMSS AND KSLK. OTHERWISE...NO AVIATION WX PROBLEMS ANTICIPATED. && .EQUIPMENT... HAVE HAD SOME WX RADIO TRANSMITTER PROBLEMS FROM THE MT MANSFIELD SITE THAT COVERS MUCH OF THE REGION. BACK UP AND RUNNING NOW BUT QUALITY IS STILL SLIGHTLY DEGRADED. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WITHIN A WEEK OR TWO WE SHOULD BE UP AND RUNNING WITH A NEW/MORE POWERFUL ANTENNA. && .BTV WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... VT...NONE. NY...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...JMG NEAR TERM...JMG/JN SHORT TERM...JN LONG TERM...JN AVIATION...BANACOS EQUIPMENT...BTV

SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
1040 PM PDT SUN SEP 21 2008 ...UPDATED AVIATION DISCUSSION... .SHORT TERM (TONIGHT-WED)...LAX ACARS SOUNDINGS THIS EVENING SHOWING TWO INVERSIONS...ONE AT ABOUT 1800 FT AND ANOTHER AT ABOUT 4800 FT. DISORGANIZED MARINE LAYER CLOUDS WERE OVER THE SOCAL BIGHT MAINLY S OF THE CHANNEL ISLANDS AND OFF THE COAST FROM L.A. COUNTY SOUTHWARD. AN EDDY IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP OVERNIGHT WHICH SHOULD HELP TO SOLIDIFY THE MARINE LAYER CLOUD COVER AND PUSH THE CLOUDS INLAND TO THE VALLEYS AND UP THE COAST TO VTU AND S SBA COUNTY LATER TONIGHT. LOW CLOUDS WERE SPARSER ALONG AND OFF THE CENTRAL COAST THIS EVENING. IT LOOKS LIKE LOW CLOUDS SHOULD PERSIST ALONG THE SBA CENTRAL COAST OVERNIGHT BUT THE EXTENT OF LOW CLOUDS FOR THE SLO CENTRAL COAST IS QUESTIONABLE. THE WRF IS FORECASTING SOME OFFSHORE LOW LEVEL FLOW ALONG THE CENTRAL COAST LATE TONIGHT WHICH MAY CAUSE ANY LOW CLOUDS TO BE PUSHED OFF THE COAST BY SUNRISE...WHICH THE BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE FIELDS ARE SUGGESTING. IT ALSO APPEARS LOW CLOUDS MAY BE HARD PRESSED TO MOVE INTO THE SALINAS VALLEY LATER TONIGHT AS WELL. OTHERWISE MOSTLY CLEAR SKIES SHOULD PREVAIL OVER A GOOD PORTION OF THE FORECAST AREA THROUGH TONIGHT. A BROAD UPPER TROF OVER CA IS FORECAST TO MOVE E THRU MON...WITH AN UPPER RIDGE EXPECTED TO BUILD INTO SRN CA FOR TUE THRU WED. A BROAD WNW FLOW ALOFT CA BE EXPECTED OVER THE DISTRICT THRU MON THEN THE FLOW WILL TURN MORE WSW FOR TUE AND GENERALLY SOUTHERLY FOR WED. DRY WEATHER WILL CONTINUE OVER THE DISTRICT THRU WED...WITH GRADUALLY WARMING TEMPS THRU THE PERIOD. BY WED HI TEMPS SHOULD BE WELL ABOVE NORMAL IN MANY AREAS AWAY FROM THE IMMEDIATE COAST. THE MARINE LAYER SHOULD SHRINK SOME AS WELL AND BE AROUND OR JUST BELOW 1000 FT DEEP BY WED...WITH JUST PATCHY NIGHT AND MORNING LOW CLOUDS AND FOG EXPECTED FOR THE COASTAL PLAIN BY TUE NIGHT. THE WRF WAS FORECASTING LITTLE IF ANY LOW CLOUDS FOR THE CENTRAL COAST BY TUE NIGHT AS WELL. ...FROM PREVIOUS DISCUSSION... .LONG TERM (THU-SUN)...MODELS HAVE BEEN FLIP FLOPPING A BIT FOR THU AND FRI. A TROUGH SHOULD DIG DOWN FROM ALASKA AND PUSH OUR WARM RIDGE EASTWARD...BUT WHETHER THAT HAPPENS THU NIGHT LIKE THE 0Z RUNS SUGGESTED OR FRI NIGHT LIKE THE 12Z RUNS IS LEFT TO BE SEEN. THE 12Z RUNS ACTUALLY WEAKEN THE ORIGINAL TROUGH...WHILE A RATHER LARGE TROUGH JUST SOUTH OF ALASKA STEALS SOME OF ITS ENERGY. THIS NEW SOLUTION RESULTS IN SHIFTING THE HIGH ONLY SLIGHTLY TO THE EAST...AND KEEPING US FAIRLY WARM FRI THROUGH SUN. NOT ONLY THAT...BUT THIS PATTERN PUTS THE HIGH INTO A FAVORABLE SOUTHERLY FLOW REGIME FOR OUR AREA...WHICH COULD PULL UP ANY AVAILABLE MOISTURE FROM MEXICO. DID NOT BITE ON THIS JUST YET...SINCE THIS MOISTURE WOULD NOT GET HERE UNTIL FRIDAY...BUT IF THE MODELS CONTINUE TO SING THE SAME TUNE THROUGH THIS WEEK...IT WILL BE TOUGH TO IGNORE FOR LONG. EITHER WAY...FRI THROUGH SUN SHOULD BE A BIT COOLER...BUT UNTIL WERE SEE MORE STABILITY IN THE SOLUTIONS...DID NOT GET TOO CUTE AND JUST TRENDED TEMPS DOWN A BIT EACH DAY BACK TOWARD NORMAL. && .AVIATION... 22/0540Z... WEAK MARINE LAYER AT 1200 FEET. A SLIGHT DISTURBANCE MOVING ALONG IN THE NW FLOW ALOFT WILL HELP TO KEEP THINGS CLEAR ESP IN THE VLYS AND CENTRAL COAST. STILL THIS SITUATION USUALLY PRODUCES MANY RANDOM CIG SURPRISES. BUT ALL CIGS SHOULD BE GONE BY MID MORNING AS EDDY IS VERY WEAK TO NON EXISTENT. KLAX...A FEW HOURS OF IN AND OUT CIGS THROUGH 08Z THEN CLEAR. A 30 PERCENT CHANCE OF NO CIGS REFORMING AT ALL AFTER MIDNIGHT. VERY GOOD CONFIDENCE IN MID MORNING BURN OFF. KBUR...GOOD CONFIDENCE IN TAF. THERE IS A 30 PERCENT CHANCE OF IFR CIGS FROM 12Z-16Z. && .LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY (SEE LAXMWWLOX). && $$ PUBLIC...SIRARD/KITTELL AVIATION...ASR WWW.WEATHER.GOV/LOSANGELES
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATE
NWS MARQUETTE MI
126 AM EDT MON SEP 22 2008 UPDATED FOR 06Z TAF ISSUANCE .SYNOPSIS... 18Z WATER VAPOR LOOP AND RUC 500MB HEIGHT ANALYSIS SHOWED TROUGHING FROM THE NE PACIFIC INTO THE NORTHWESTERN U.S....RIDGING FROM THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES INTO SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA...AND TROUGHING OVER SE CANADA. SUBSIDENCE UNDER THE UPPER RIDGE HAS GENERALLY PREVENTED ANY PCPN FROM OCCURRING OVER THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES...EXCEPT FOR MAYBE SOME SPRINKLES OVER WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR AS SEEN ON RADAR IMAGERY. THESE SPRINKLES ARE ASSOCIATED WITH A BAND OF MID-LEVEL FRONTOGENESIS AND ACCAS...WHICH STRETCHES FROM NW ONTARIO INTO WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR. OTHER CLOUDS OF THE LOW STRATUS VARIETY COVER SOUTH CENTRAL UPPER MI ACROSS CENTRAL LAKE MI AND CENTRAL LOWER MI. THE STRATUS HAS BEEN VERY STUBBORN TO MIX OUT...AND THE 16Z TAMDAR SOUNDING FROM RHI SHOWS WHY WITH A STRONG INVERSION AT 900MB. HOWEVER...THE MOISTURE PROFILE AND OBSERVATIONS FROM IMT INDICATE THAT THE DECK HAS THINNED FROM 1500 FT TO AROUND 600 FT NOW... SUGGESTING MIXING IS HAVING AN IMPACT. VISIBLE SATELLITE NOW INDICATING HOLES IN THE STRATUS. AT THE SFC...1032MB HIGH PRESSURE IS OVER EASTERN ONTARIO. SE FLOW AROUND THE HIGH IS GRADUALLY BRINGING WARMER AIR INTO UPPER MI...WITH 850MB TEMPS PER RUC ANALYSIS OF 11C AT IWD AND 7C AT ERY. LACK OF SIGNIFICANT WIND HAS PREVENTED MIXING TO THIS LEVEL. STRONGER SOUTHERLY WINDS ARE LURKING OFF TO THE WEST ACROSS THE PLAINS...WHICH ARE OCCURRING AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT ALONG THE LEE OF THE ROCKIES. SOME SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE ALSO AHEAD OF THE FRONT IN CENTRAL SOUTH DAKOTA. DEWPOINTS IN THE UPPER 50S/LOW 60S CAN BE SEEN SPREADING NORTHWARD AHEAD OF THE FRONT AS WELL. && .SHORT TERM (TONIGHT AND MONDAY)... UPPER TROUGH OVER THE NORTHWEST U.S. WILL BE LIFTING TO THE NORTHEAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS...CAUSING THE UPPER RIDGE AXIS WHICH EXTENDS FROM SE MN INTO CENTRAL SASKATCHEWAN TO MOVE OVER UPPER MI AROUND 18Z. AS THIS RIDGE AXIS MOVES CLOSER TONIGHT AND WARM ADVECTION INCREASES IN RESPONSE TO THE DIURNAL EFFECTS OF THE LOW LEVEL JET...THE MID CLOUDS OVER WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR INTO NW ONTARIO MAY EXPAND SOME INTO UPPER MI. THE BEST EXPANSION...AND POSSIBLE PCPN...SHOULD BE CONFINED TO FAR NORTHERN LAKE SUPERIOR INTO NORTHERN ONTARIO AS INDICATED BY 850MB THETA-E ADVECTION AND MOISTURE TRANSPORT VECTORS. CLOUDS OVER SOUTH CENTRAL UPPER MI AND CENTRAL LOWER MI ARE SOMEWHAT CONCERNING...SINCE THEY HAVE STRUGGLED TO DISSIPATE. WILL GO UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THEY WILL AT LEAST BECOME SCATTERED BY THE TIME THE SUN DISSIPATES. AS THE WINDS TURN A BIT MORE SOUTHERLY...THE CLOUDS SHOULD IMPACT THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN U.P.. THEREFORE...SKY COVER FORECAST IS GENERALLY MOSTLY CLOUDY FOR MUCH OF UPPER MI...EXCLUDING THE FAR WESTERN U.P.. DID ADD SOME PATCHY FOG AS WELL...IN THE EVENT THE LOW CLOUDS DISSIPATE MORE AND THAT MORE MOISTURE WILL BE BROUGHT UP INTO THE CWA. PATCHY FOG IS ASSIGNED TO THE AREAS WITH THE LIGHTEST WINDS...WHICH IN THIS CASE IS THE SOUTH CENTRAL U.P.. REGARDING LOW TEMPERATURES...COOLEST READINGS EXPECTED IN THE AREAS WITH LIGHT WINDS...BUT CLOUDS AND MORE MOISTURE SHOULD PREVENT TEMPS FROM DROPPING AS LOW AS LAST NIGHT. PREVIOUS LOW TEMPERATURE FORECAST SEEMS REASONABLE. ON MONDAY...WARM ADVECTION MID CLOUDS...AND WHATEVER LOW CLOUDS MIGHT BE AROUND...WILL PUSH EASTWARD THROUGH THE DAY WITH THE RIDGE AXIS BUILDING IN. SOME HIGH CLOUDS MAY ALSO ENTER THE PICTURE...ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONVECTION IN CENTRAL SOUTH DAKOTA THAT MODELS PROG MOVING INTO UPPER MI. THICKER CLOUD COVER ASSOCIATED WITH HEIGHT FALLS ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE RIDGE AXIS WILL MOVE INTO FAR WESTERN UPPER MI LATE. NO PCPN IS FORECAST...THOUGH THERE MAY BE SOME DIURNAL DRIVEN CONVECTION OVER NORTH CENTRAL WI CLOSE TO THE BORDER AS INDICATED BY THE GFS/NAM QPF FIELDS. THIS CONVECTION MAKES SENSE AS WELL... LOOKING TO THE SOUTH OVER NRN IL WHERE THE MOISTURE IS COMING FROM (CONVECTION OCCURRING NORTH OF BLOOMINGTON/NORMAL IL). WITH 850MB TEMPS AROUND 12C AND A SOUTHERLY BREEZE...TEMPERATURES WILL END UP WARMER THAN TODAY...PERHAPS 5 DEGREES OR SO. ONLY SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS WERE MADE TO THE PREVIOUS HIGH TEMPERATURE FORECAST. && .LONG TERM (MON NIGHT THROUGH NEXT SUN)... SOUTHERLY FLOW AHEAD OF WEDNESDAY/S FRONTAL PASSAGE WILL YIELD A WARM MONDAY NIGHT AS TEMPS ONLY DROP INTO THE LOW TO UPPER 50S. FOR TUESDAY...INCREASING CLOUD COVER WILL KEEP HIGHS IN THE LOW TO MID 70S...UPPER 60S ALONG THE LAKE INFLUENCED NORTH SHORE OF LAKE MICHIGAN. 850 TEMPS AROUND 14C WOULD SUGGEST HIGHS IN THE UPPER 70S TO NEAR 80 WITH MINIMAL CLOUD COVER. THINK CLOUDS WILL KEEP TEMPS IN CHECK THOUGH. BY TUESDAY AFTN/EVENING...ATTENTION TURNS TO PRECIPITATION CHANCES OUT WEST. GIVEN MODELS SLOWER TRENDS NOTED BY PREVIOUS SHIFT...DIDN/T FEEL COMFORTABLE EXTENDING HIGHER POPS TOO FAR EAST...THOUGH 15Z SREF WOULD SUGGEST THAT EXTENDING HIGHER POPS INTO MARQUETTE AND MENOMINEE COUNTIES WOULD BE FAIRLY SAFE. WILL LET NEXT SHIFT TOY WITH THIS. WITH ALL THAT IN MIND...KEPT LIKELY POPS OVER FAR WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR FOR THE AFTERNOON. BY THE EVENING HOURS...MODEL GUIDANCE SUGGESTS DIMINISHING TREND IN PRECIPITATION AS THE FEATURE MOVES EAST ACROSS THE FA. BECAUSE THIS APPEARS TO OCCUR MORE OFTEN THAN NOT...DECIDED TO ONLY INCLUDE POPS UP TO 50S IN THE WESTERN ZONES...AND NO HIGHER THAN 30 FOR THE CENTRAL AND EAST. STRONG SUBSIDENCE AND DRYING BEHIND FRONT WILL ALLOW FOR PRECIPITATION TO END IN THE LATE MORNING ACROSS THE WEST HALF AND IN THE EAST BY EARLY EVENING. AGAIN WILL HAVE TO WATCH IF MODELS CONTINUE TO TREND SLOWER WITH FRONT FOR TIMING THE EXIT OF PRECIP. LOWERED MIN TEMPS FOR WEDNESDAY NIGHT BEHIND THE FRONT. PWAT/S DROP TO AROUND A HALF INCH...THIS ALONG WITH INCREASING ANTICYCLONIC FLOW/MINIMAL CLOUD COVER WILL ALLOW TEMPS TO FALL INTO THE LOW 40S IN PLACES...PERHAPS EVEN COOLER IF AIRMASS VERIFIES DRIER THAN IS CURRENTLY PROGGED. THE NEXT FEATURE OF INTEREST IS A FRONT PROGGED TO PASS THROUGH THE FA SOMETIME EARLY NEXT WEEKEND. ALOT OF UNCERTAINTY WITH THE TIMING OF THIS FEATURE AND THEREAFTER. KEPT FCST THE SAME FOR THE EXTENDED PERIODS...DAYS 4 THROUGH 7 AS A RESULT. POTENTIAL TROPICAL WAVE CURRENTLY NEAR PUERTO RICO INTERACTS WITH LONGWAVE PATTERN FOR LATE NEXT WEEKEND. AS A RESULT LONG RANGE MODELS PROVIDE DIFFERING SOLUTIONS...THOUGH BOTH HINT AT COOLER WEATHER BY MID NEXT WEEK. && .AVIATION (FOR THE 06Z TAF ISSUANCE)... EXPECT LO CLDS/SOME FOG TO OVERSPREAD BOTH SITES EARLY THIS MRNG AS SLY FLOW TAPS EXPANDING AREA OF LO CLDS OVER THE SRN CWA AND WI. THE BEST BET FOR MORE PROLONGED IFR/MVFR CONDITIONS WL BE AT SAW WHERE THE SLY FLOW WL UPSLOPE. DAYTIME HTG THIS MRNG WL MIX OUT THE LO CLD/FOG...SLOWEST AT SAW...WITH VFR CONDITIONS PREDOMINATING IN THE AFTN/EVNG. && .MARINE (FOR THE 4 PM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE)... HIGH PRESSURE OVER EASTERN ONTARIO WILL MOVE TO THE EAST...REACHING NEW ENGLAND MONDAY NIGHT. SOUTHERLY WINDS ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE HIGH ARE EXPECTED TO INCREASE ON CENTRAL AND EASTERN LAKE SUPERIOR TO 15 TO 25 KT...AND GENERALLY STAY THAT WAY THROUGH MONDAY. SOUTH WINDS WILL INCREASE ACROSS ALL OF LAKE SUPERIOR MON NIGHT INTO TUE AS A COLD FRONT APPROACHES FROM THE PLAINS. LOOK FOR SPEEDS TO REACH 15 TO 30 KT...WITH THE HIGHEST WINDS ON EASTERN LAKE SUPERIOR TUE AFTERNOON AND TUE NIGHT. AS THE FRONT CROSSES TUE NIGHT...WINDS SWITCH TO THE SOUTHWEST AND WEST...WITH SPEEDS UP TO 25 KT...ESPECIALLY OVER NORTH CENTRAL LAKE SUPERIOR LATE TUE NIGHT INTO WED. AN AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE SHOULD BUILD ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR WED NIGHT BEHIND THE FRONT TO LOWER WINDS BELOW 20 KT. AS THIS HIGH HEADS TO THE EAST THURSDAY...EXPECT SOUTHERLY WINDS TO INCREASE AGAIN WITH SPEEDS UP TO 30 KT POSSIBLE THU NIGHT AND FRI...STRONGEST ON EASTERN LAKE SUPERIOR. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... UPPER MICHIGAN...NONE. LAKE SUPERIOR...NONE. LAKE MICHIGAN...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS/SHORT TERM...AJ LONG TERM...PEARSON AVIATION...KC/RT MARINE...AJ