Return-Path: <nifl-technology@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id j74FAuG11048; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:10:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 11:10:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <B7D7486A-6BEF-48F7-852C-F16BFBAC4212@comcast.net> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-technology@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-technology@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-technology@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: David Rosen <djrosen@comcast.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-technology@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-TECHNOLOGY:3727] Re: public Wi-Fi X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.733) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Status: O Content-Length: 5392 Lines: 191 Tommy, How would WI-FI access across a city widen the digital divide? David David J. Rosen djrosen@comcast.net On Aug 4, 2005, at 10:50 AM, Mariann Fedele wrote: > Hi Tommy, > Thanks for jumping back in to the mix on the list. I hope your post > will be > an inspiration to others who haven't recently posted. > > I've been thinking about you concern that public Wi-Fi would widen the > digital divide. It would certainly publicly distinguish those with > access, > PDAs, and the means to acquire the latest tech. That said, it seems > like an > inevitability. > > In the 90's great efforts were made in terms of access...getting > communities wired. Tommy and others on the list, with the advent > of the > wireless age what suggestions would you make to say, Andrew Rasiej > (who is > "running in New York City's Democratic primary for public advocate > on a > platform calling for wireless (Wi-Fi) and cellphone Internet access > from > every home, business and school in the city"), about decreasing the > digital > divide and insuring equal access to all? > > Regards, > Mariann > > > > > At 11:54 AM 8/3/2005 -0400, you wrote: > >> I'm rarely on here anymore but I see pluses and minuses of such a >> plan--just >> as much for Philly as Manhattan. I truly think this will make the >> digital >> divide even larger than it is. >> >> That being said, NYU has this and Marymount Manhattan is >> developing it in >> other places than the library. For my students, they have instant >> access to >> the library (libraries), to information we have put on >> Blackboard.com (or >> any blog you wish to do) and so forth. It also allows the teaching of >> writing to be more interactive--as writing is now--often a pursuit >> done in a >> word processor. >> >> This type of system would also allow teachers of ESL and others to >> teach >> students how to read on the Internet--a pet peeve of mine. We need >> to teach >> students how to read on the Internet (not just evaluate >> information), do >> searches etc. More and more of my students (at public and private >> colleges) >> at least have the cheaper Palm Pilots and Handsprings. >> >> And--even phones can get on the Internet. >> >> But I still worry--let's forget how easy it is to hack into your >> system this >> way--but I still believe that this cuts a thick line between the >> elderly and >> the poor who have access only at public libraries. >> >> One plus--for NYC would be if the subways were wired--perhaps we >> would have >> cheaper rides. >> >> I'll go back to lurking. >> >> Tommy >> Tommy B. McDonell >> Doctoral Candidate, Steinhardt School of Education >> tbr202@nyu.edu >> Salesperson, Debra Kameros Company >> www.debrakameros.com >> H: 212-929-6768, before 10PM >> F: 212-929-1129 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mariann Fedele" <mariannf@lacnyc.org> >> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <nifl-technology@literacy.nifl.gov> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:45 AM >> Subject: [NIFL-TECHNOLOGY:3721] public Wi-Fi >> >> >> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> Thomas Friedman wrote in his NY Times column this morning: >>> >>> "The world is moving to an Internet-based platform for commerce, >>> education, >>> innovation and entertainment. Wealth and productivity will go to >>> those >>> countries or companies that get more of their innovators, educators, >>> students, workers and suppliers connected to this platform via >>> computers, >>> phones and P.D.A.'s... >>> >>> A new generation of politicians is waking up to this issue. For >>> instance, >>> Andrew Rasiej is running in New York City's Democratic primary >>> for public >>> advocate on a platform calling for wireless (Wi-Fi) and cellphone >>> Internet >>> access from every home, business and school in the city... >>> >>> Mr. Rasiej wants to see New York follow Philadelphia, which >>> decided it >>> wouldn't wait for private companies to provide connectivity to all. >>> Instead, Philly made it a city-led project - like sewers and >>> electricity. >>> The whole city will be a "hot zone," where any resident anywhere >>> with a >>> computer, cellphone or P.D.A. will have cheap high-speed Wi-Fi >>> access to >>> the Internet..." >>> >>> >>> A couple of questions: >>> How can you see city-wide Wi-Fi, and cell phone internet access >>> benefiting >>> your students, program and instructional practices? >>> Is anyone on the list in a wireless instructional environment? >>> How are you >>> using this access? >>> Is there anyone on the list from Philadelphia who can let us know >>> how that >>> city-wide Wi-Fi experiment is going? >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Mariann >>> >>> To read the whole column: >>> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/03/opinion/03friedman.html? >>> pagewanted=print >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Mariann Fedele >>> Coordinator of Professional Development, >>> Literacy Assistance Center >>> Moderator, >>> NIFL Technology and Literacy Discussion List >>> 32 Broadway 10th Floor >>> New York, New York 10004 >>> 212-803-3325 >>> mariannf@lacnyc.org >>> www.lacnyc.org >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > Mariann Fedele > Coordinator of Professional Development, > Literacy Assistance Center > Moderator, > NIFL Technology and Literacy Discussion List > 32 Broadway 10th Floor > New York, New York 10004 > 212-803-3325 > mariannf@lacnyc.org > www.lacnyc.org > >
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