FXUS63 KILX 100158 CCA AFDILX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LINCOLN IL 855 PM CDT FRI APR 9 2004 .DISCUSSION... MAIN FCST CONCERN THIS EVENING IS WHEN WILL THE PCPN MAKE IT DOWN TO THE SFC. RADAR HAS BEEN SHOWING RETURNS OVER THE AREA ALL EVENING...BUT THIS HAS BEEN ALL VIRGA SO FAR DUE TO THE DRY LOW LEVELS. KILX SOUNDING THIS EVENING ALSO VERIFIES THIS. THE PCPN TRIES TO MOVE INTO THE AREA FROM THE WEST BUT MOVES INTO DRIER AIR AND DRIES UP. SFC OBS SHOWING COPIOUS MID AND UPPER LVL CLOUDS WITH N-NE FLOW AND DEWPOINTS IN THE LOW-MID 30S. FEEL THAT THE PRECIP WILL EVENTUALLY SATURATE THE COLUMN AND MAKE IT TO THE SFC...PROBABLY MORE SO AROUND MIDNIGHT AND AFTERWARDS. BEST CHANCES APPEAR TO BE CENTRAL AND SOUTH...LESS TO THE NORTH AS THE DRIER AIR IS BETTER ENTRENCHED AND FURTHER AWAY FROM THE BETTER LIFT. WILL ISSUE UPDATE SOON TO REMOVE EVENING WORDING. TUFF CALL ON HOW TO HANDLE THE POPS TONIGHT. MAY LOWER POPS A TAD ACROSS THE NORTHERN MOST ZONES BUT WILL PROBABLY LEAVE THE REST THE SAME. && .PREV DISCUSSION... FORECAST CHALLENGES AHEAD INCLUDE NORTHERN EXTENT OF PRECIP TONIGHT INTO SATURDAY ALONG WITH TEMPS...WITH LONGER TERM CONCERNS REVOLVING AROUND EVENTUAL EXIT OF LONGWAVE TROF TO OUR EAST AND WARMER TEMPS LATE NEXT WEEK. SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH MONDAY BOTH MODELS INDICATING SOME DECENT 300K ISENT ASCENT STARTING THIS EVENING AND HOLDING INTO SATURDAY MORNING BEFORE THE LIFT WEAKENS WITH TIME. ETA QPF SEEMS TO BE VERIFYING THE BEST...AT LEAST IN THE PAST 6 TO 9 HOURS SO WL TEND TO SIDE WITH IT DURING THE SHORT TERM. SFC ANALYSIS INDICATING BROAD NORTHERLY FLOW AROUND LARGE COLD CANADIAN HIGH WITH SFC DEW POINTS IN THE TEENS ACRS THE NRN MIDWEST. MODEL SOUNDINGS REALLY HAVING A TOUGH TIME SATURATING THE LOW LEVELS WITH BEST LAYERED RH AND LIFT ACRS THE SOUTH. THAT IS WHERE THE HIGHER POPS WL BE LOCATED THROUGH SATURDAY...WITH PROGRESSIVELY LOWER POPS NORTH. SFC WAVE AND DEEPER MOISTURE/CONVECTION WL BE LOCATED WELL SOUTH OF OUR FCST AREA WITH WEAK VORT MAXES ROTATING EWD ACRS CNTRL IL SAT AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING KEEPING LIGHT RAIN CHANCES GOING. BEST LIFT AND MOISTURE SHIFTS TO OUR EAST LATE SAT NIGHT INTO SUNDAY WITH PRECIP CHANCES DIMINISHING FROM WEST TO EAST. MODELS INDICATING CNTRL IL IN BETWEEN WEATHER SYSTEMS SUNDAY AND EARLY MONDAY WITH STRONGER SYSTEM ACRS THE GULF COAST AND SOUTHEAST STATES...AND FAIRLY VIGOROUS UPPER LOW DRIFTING SOUTHEAST INTO THE MIDWEST ON MONDAY...SO WL GO WITH A DRY FCST ON SUNDAY. AS THE 500 MB LOW APPROACHES DURING THE DAY ON MONDAY...OUR PRECIP CHANCES WILL INCREASE AGAIN DURING THE DAY...AND CONTINUE INTO MONDAY EVENING BEFORE PRECIP CHANCES END FROM NW TO SE TUE MORNING. FAIRLY COLD TEMPS ALOFT WITH SHALLOW WARM LAYER AT LOW LEVELS ON FCST SOUNDINGS. IF SYSTEM HOLDS OFF UNTIL MONDAY EVENING AFTR DARK...MAY SEE ANOTHER COLDER AIR WORK IN AT THE LOWER LEVELS TO PRODUCE A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW. FOR NOW...WL GO WITH RAIN CHANCES. LONG TERM...TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY MEDIUM AND LONG RANGE MODELS REALLY SHOWING THEIR DIFFERENCES WITH THE MOVMNT OF THE LONGWAVE TROF ACRS THE EASTERN LAKES. EACH MODEL RUN HAS SLOWED THE PROGRESSION OF THE TROF DOWN WITH THIS MORNINGS RUNS INDICATING AN EVEN STRONGER SHORTWAVE DROPPING SE INTO THE LNGWV TROF POSITION MIDWEEK. FEEL THIS MORNINGS UKMET DEPICTION OF THE TROF OVR THE LAKES REGION AND THE WRN US TROF ABOUT 12 HOURS SLOWER THAN WHAT THE ECMWF WAS SHOWING IS THE WAY TO GO. AS A RESULT...WITH THE STRONGER...MORE AMPLIFIED PATTERN...WL INTRODUCE LOW PRECIP CHANCES (20 POPS) WED EVENING ALONG THE COLD FRONT ACRS OUR NW...AND SLIDE PRECIP CHANCES SOUTHEAST OVERNIGHT. GFS 850 TEMPS ON THURSDAY ON THE DOWNWARD TREND (-3 TO -8C) SO HAVE ADJUSTED AFTN TEMPS DOWN AS WELL...BUT MAY HAVE NOT GONE COOL ENOUGH BASED ON LOW LVL COLD ADVECTION PATTERN BEHIND TROF. SAME MAY HOLD TRUE FOR FRIDAY AS BEST LOW LVL WARM ADVECTION WILL BE WELL WEST OF US...SO AFTERNOON TEMPS MAY NEED TO BE ADJUSTED DOWNWARD A CATEGORY OR TWO MODEL RUNS SHOW SIMILAR TRENDS. FLOW ACRS THE PACIFIC FCST TO BECOME ZONAL WITH TROF SHIFTING INTO THE WRN US...ALLOWING RIDGE TO BUILD OVR THE CNTRL U.S. WITH MORE SPRING-LIKE TEMPS ACRS CNTRL IL SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. && .ILX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. && $$ HALL