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000 FXUS04 KWBC 100947 QPFPFD QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 547 AM EDT TUE MAR 10 2009 FINAL DAY 1...DAY 2 AND DAY 3 QPF DISCUSSION VALID MAR 10/1200 UTC THRU MAR 13/1200 UTC REFERENCE AWIPS GRAPHICS UNDER...PRECIP ACCUM - 24HR THE 06Z MDL RUNS WERE IN VRY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE 00Z RUNS..SO MADE ONLY VRY MINOR CHGS TO THE PRELIM DAY 1 QPF. DAY 1... ...SRN PLAINS AND MID MS/LWR OH VLYS ENEWD INTO WRN NEW ENG AND NRN PLAINS ENEWD INTO THE NWRN GTLKS... XCP FOR SOME VRY MINOR TIMING/STRENGTH DIFFS..THE LATEST NAM AND GFS ARE IN VRY GOOD AGREEMENT IN THEIR HANDLING OF THE MAJOR H5 SYS PULLING NEWD OUT CNTRL GT BASIN/CNTRL ROCKIES INTO THE NRN GTLKS BY WED MRNG..WITH SIGNIFICANT RAINS LIKELY WITH THIS SYS FM THE SRN PLAINS ENEWD INTO NEW ENG..AND HVY SNOWS XPCD FM THE NRN PLAINS ENEWD INTO THE NWRN GTLKS. AHD OF THE H5 SYS..A STG SWLY LLJ AOA 50KTS WL CONT TO SUPPORT AN EXPANSIVE AND LCLY HVY OVRRNG RNFL EVENT FM THE MIDWEST ENEWD INTO WRN NEW ENG..WITH PWS ABV 1.25 INCHES BEING PULLED AS FAR N AND E AS THE OH VLY ON TUE..AND GTR THAN 1 INCH PWS REACHING WRN NEW ENG TUE NGT. SYS WL BE A STEADY MOVR..BUT STRENGTH OF INFLO AND HI MSTR AVBLTY SHLD STILL SUPPORT SOME LCLY HVY RNFL AMTS..ESP VCNTY OF THE SERN GTLKS. NAM AND GFS QPFS WERE ACTUALLY IN VRY GOOD AGREEMENT HERE..SO DIDN`T DEVIATE MUCH FM THEM AND XPC AN AXIS OF 1-2 INCH RAINS NRN IN ENEWD INTO SWRN NY STATE. FARTHER TO THE S AND W..CDFNT PUSHING THRU THE LWR OH AND MID MS VLYS AND SRN PLAINS SHLD BE CNVCTVLY ACTIVE..ESP LTR TUE AFTN AND NGT..IN ZONE OF STG LOW LVL CNVGNC..AND IN REGIONS OF MODEST HGT FALLS AND RT ENTRANCE JET DYNAMICS. PREFER THE SLGTLY HVIER GFS QPF SOLN HERE OVR THE NAM SOLN..GIVEN POOLING OF SOME PWS VCNTY OF THE FNT TO GTR THAN 1.50 INCHES. AND FINALLY..VRY HVY SNOWS WL OCCUR ON THE COLD SIDE OF THIS SYS FM THE CNTRL/ERN DAKOTAS ENEWD THRU MUCH OF MN INTO NWRN WI AND THE U.P. OF MI..GENLY ALG/LEFT OF THE TRACK OF THE STG H5 VORT AND LOW LVL CNTRS. AGAIN..NOT TOO MUCH TO ARGUE WITH REGARDING THE MDL QPFS..WITH BOTH THE NAM AND GFS INDICATING SOME GTR THAN 0.50 INCH WTR EQUIVALENTS NRN MN INTO EXTRM NWRN WI AND THE WRN U.P. OF MI. PLS SEE THE QPFHSD FOR DETAILS ON THE SNOWFALL POTNL HERE. ...GT BASIN/ROCKIES... NEG TILT AND LIFTING OUT H5 TROF WL CONT TO PRODUCE WIDESPREAD GENLY LGT SNOWS OVR PTNS OF THE NRN GT BASIN AND NRN/CNTRL ROCKIES MSTLY 1ST HALF OF THE PD..WITH WTR EQUIVALENTS GENLY BLO 0.25 INCHES EVEN IN THE MORE FAVORED HIER TERRAIN. MDL QPFS WERE IN GENL AGREEMENT ON THIS..AND SEEMED QUITE REASONABLE. DAY 2... ...NORTHEAST... AN IMPRESSIVE OCCLUDED SYSTEM ASSOCIATED WITH THE STRONG CLOSED LOW SPINNING ACROSS NRN QUE WILL PRESS THROUGH THE NERN CONUS AND OFF THE NERN/MID-ATL SEABOARD WED AFTERNOON/EVENING. DEEP SWLY FLOW EARLY IN THE PERIOD IS EXPECTED TO FOSTER AN ADDITIONAL 0.25 - 0.5 INCH ACROSS PORTIONS OF UPSTATE NY/NRN NEW ENG BEFORE THE DEEP MOISTURE ADV IS QUICKLY DIRECTED OUT TO SEA. ...SRN PLAINS/LWR MS VLY... MODELS ARE IN GENERAL AGREEMENT ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF WIDESPREAD MDT TO HVY PRECIP ON DAY 2 IN THE VICINITY OR JUST NORTH AND ALONG THE POLAR COLD FRONT WHICH IS FORECAST TO DIG S THROUGH THIS REGION TOWARD THE GULF OF MEXICO. THE MODEL GUIDANCE INDICATES ENOUGH OF A SRN STREAM TROF PRESENT OVER THE SOUTHWEST AND INTO NRN MEXICO AND SWRLY FLOW CARRYING SRN STREAM ENERGY INTO THE SRN PLAINS TO INTERACT WITH A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OVERRINNING GULF MOISTURE TO PRODUCE SOME ORGANIZED HVY RAINFALL. HPC GENERALLY FOLLOWED A BLEND OF THE ECMWF/GFS ON BOTH THE AXIS AND AMT OF HVY RAIN FROM THE TX HILL AND BIG CNTRY THRU THE ARKLATEX REGION...WHERE AREAL AVGS OF 1-3 INCHES CAN BE EXPECTED. DAY 3... ...SOUTHERN PLAINS/LOWER MISSISSIPPI AND TENNESSEE VALLEYS... PREVIOUSLY NOTED POLAR FRONT IS FORECAST TO STALL ALONG THE GULF COAST...AS MORE SRN STREAM DYNAMICS MOVE ACROSS THE REGION AHEAD OF TROF SWINGING ACROSS THE SWRN CONUS. NAM/GFS ARE ACTUALLY IN VERY GOOD AGREEMENT LATE IN THE PERIOD IN THEIR PLACMENT OF SIGNIFICANT RAINS ACROSS ERN TX...WITH THE CMC GLOBAL DISPLACED A LITTLE FURTHER TO THE N. HOWEVER...THE ECMWF HOWEVER IS NOTICEABLE DRIER. THE NCEP MODELS ARE A LITTLE MORE DEFINED WITH THIS ENERGY AND THE GFS IN PARTICULAR SHOWS THE LOW LVL INFLOW FROM THE GOMEX RESPONDING IN KIND. OTHERWISE...MODELS MASS FIELD DIFFERENCES ARE NOT SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO STRONGLY DISCOUNT ONE MODEL IN FAVOR OF ANOTHER. THE ECMWF DOES SHOW ENOUGH MOISTURE IN PLACE TO SUGGEST ITS AMTS MAY BE UNDERDONE. 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