Interview with Roy Scow [Undated]

Jessica Wambach:

Okay, Roy was born on July 18, 1896, which makes him 104 years old. He has had 9 children, 6 sons and 3 daughters. He was born in Manhattan, Montana, on the family homestead. His parents were Oliver and Carrie Scow. He had two sisters. He has lived in Manhattan, Livingston, and Helena, Montana, throughout most of his life. And he attended a school for the deaf in Minnesota. He served his country in the United States Army during World War I. He has earned a Purple Heart, a Silver Star, and the French Medal of Honor for his service. Roy now resides at Evergreen Nursing Home in Clancy, Montana. He enlisted in the United States Army on June 4, 1917, and was discharged on August 19, 1919. The first question I have for Roy says, "Where did you serve in France?"

Roy Scow:

I don't know. We were all over France.

Anne:

He doesn't remember himself.

Jessica Wambach:

That's fine.

Roy Scow:

I still don't recognize that? That's all I, I, I just figured all I wanted was to get the heck out!

Orval Scow:

Well that went well.

Steve Wambach:

Yah.

Jessica Wambach:

I guess I won't ask about Germany.

Orval Scow:

You'll get the same answer.

Bev:

Why don't you try it and see what happens?

Jessica Wambach:

Well I guess I could try.

Unidentified Speaker:

(unintelligible)

Jessica Wambach:

Where did you serve in Germany?

Roy Scow:

God, you know something? I wa, I hated that over there. You just squads right, squads left. Back out again. I guess that's the better for the (unintelligible) I want to forget it all, see? Oh, France.

Unidentified Speaker:

(unintelligible)

Jessica Wambach:

Let's try again.

Roy Scow:

Well, we was all over France, that's one thing. We was all over, back and forth.

Jessica Wambach:

What were your duties in the Army?

Orval Scow:

Oh boy.

Roy Scow:

Just regular old squads right, squads left, Corporal.

Jessica Wambach:

That's great.

Unidentified Speaker:

(unintelligible)

Jessica Wambach:

Can you tell me anything about your life in the Army?

Roy Scow:

Squads right. Squads left. Forget the rest of it.

Jessica Wambach:

Any suggestions?

Roy Scow:

It was just the one squad over here today and over there tomorrow, back here next week, over there tomorrow.

Jessica Wambach:

Any suggestions?

Roy Scow:

We just, we just went where the, where the captain said.

Steve Wambach:

Jessica why don't you ask about the motorcycle?

Orval Scow:

Yah, ask him if he rode, ask him if he knew how to ride a motorcycle.

Jessica Wambach:

Okay, um, now what would, would you think I should ask? How should I ask?

Orval Scow:

Ask, ask him if he likes, if he, if he, if he ever rode a motorcycle.

Jessica Wambach:

Okay.

Bev:

(unintelligible)

Jessica Wambach:

Did you ever ride a motorcycle in the Army?

Orval Scow:

That's good.

Bev:

Yah.

Unidentified Speaker:

(unintelligible)

Jessica Wambach:

Did you ever ride a motorcycle in the Army?

Roy Scow:

Oh, you think it's a big, oh, well.

Orval Scow:

Just a little expression. He always had an expression he had

Roy Scow:

No. That was too good. That's what youyou just walk. If you just sit there, that's their fault.

Anne:

He doesn't remember.

Jessica Wambach:

That's fine.

Steve Wambach:

He probably remembers.

Bob:

He just don't want to remember.

Orval Scow:

I'll bet he remembers.

Bev:

He used his feet instead of a motorcycle.

Bob:

Yah, sure.

Orval Scow:

Yah, so.

Bob:

I think, he seems to just want to humor you.

Unidentified Speaker:

(unintelligible)

Jessica Wambach:

Um, I could try with the medals and see if that sparks any conversation.

Roy Scow:

No, we were just turned loose and some crazy guy that thought he was a captain would herd you here, herd you there, over here, had you going off over here, then you go a little more and you go back over there. We, we were nice guys, and I, we didn't know beans, nothing. We just had to listen to what that crazy captain said.

Bev:

I don't

Roy Scow:

That's what, that's what all us guys said, that's what us guys said when a, to some, some crazy idea, when that a we'd just rather be fishing, you know, than have to listen to him.

Unidentified Speaker:

(unintelligible)

Anne:

Rather be fishing.

Steve Wambach:

That's a good answer.

Bob:

There's something that he might like.

Unidentified Speaker:

(unintelligible)

Bob:

Yah, I know, that'd be something.

Roy Scow:

It's a great life, that, being in a one of them, one of them great big soldiers. Oh boy. That was really something. It just makes you sick of being there, that's all.

Unidentified Speaker:

(unintelligible)

Orval Scow:

He didn't have to go into the military. He was working on the railroad at that time, but he couldn't go where his (unintelligible) so he quit the railroad and enlisted (unintelligible).

Steve Wambach:

Is, is that what he did here is work on the railroad?

Orval Scow:

Hmm?

Steve Wambach:

He worked on the railroad?

Orval Scow:

Prior, prior, before he joined up, yah.

Steve Wambach:

And then after?

Orval Scow:

And after the war too. But they had to let him go because he was deaf.

Steve Wambach:

Okay, did you get that Jessica?

Jessica Wambach:

Yah.

Steve Wambach:

Okay, 'cause we were wondering that.

Jessica Wambach:

I'm going to try this one.

Steve Wambach:

And then what? Was he on disability from the service after that?

Orval Scow:

Mhmm.

Jessica Wambach:

Did you get any medals or awards when you were in the Army?

Anne:

Oh there you go.

Orval Scow:

Yep.

Bob:

Mhmm.

Orval Scow:

He worked for a survey crew for the railroad at the time, too, I believe. But I can't remember exactly. I believe they surveyed all the track in town. That was one year, one summer I think.

Roy Scow:

No. All we got is squads right, squads left, if you don't like that, you can go to.

Bev:

There's a lot he doesn't remember.

Roy Scow:

We was just, we was just midgets, that's all.

Bev:

Midgets.

Orval Scow:

He wasn't too happy.

Bob:

He's trying to be funny.

Steve Wambach:

Yah, I've got a feeling he remembers a lot more than he's letting on.

Bev:

Oh yes.

Orval Scow:

Mhmmm.

Jessica Wambach:

Well, I think I'll... I could ask him about his injury.

Orval Scow:

Yah, he's overloaded I think.

Jessica Wambach:

Maybe something different? I don't know.

Steve Wambach:

Now was just the concussion the wound? Or does he have...

Bob:

Concussion.

Bob:

bomb, so close.

Steve Wambach:

Yah but is there, is there further?

Bob:

It broke his eardrums.

Steve Wambach:

Did he receive any further wounds than that or just the concussion?

Bob:

Just the concussion.

Orval Scow:

He got, he got wounded too.

Bob:

Oh yah, yah.

Orval Scow:

He got wounded too.

Bob:

Along with the concussion.

Orval Scow:

He was awful close. He survived though. The one that got me, was only, oh, from here to the table.

Bob:

It was flack wasn't it?

Orval Scow:

Hmm?

Bob:

Flack?

Orval Scow:

Hmm?

Bob:

Flack.

Orval Scow:

No, no, mortar shell.

Bob:

Mortar.

Steve Wambach:

Mortar.

Jessica Wambach:

How did you lose your hearing?

Anne:

Do you use, you use cream? Just cream, don't you

Roy Scow:

It was an exploding German shell. Those Germans were shooting at us all the time out there. Bang bang bang bang bang and the big old shell busted right in front of me and knocked me on my, my, my, my, my gunnywhacker, you know. Whatever that, whatever that is, you know, your, you heard about them, well, then, I was down there, that the explosion knocked my ears out. I had a good job on the railroad. I was going right, andI had brains enough to be an engineer, you know. Shoveling, shoveling coal in the locomotives. A fore you's a fireman, see. And I never got that far up, see.

Orval Scow:

He remembers.

Jessica Wambach:

Uhhuh.

Orval Scow:

I found a letter in the file there that they found out they laid him off because of his hearing.

Steve Wambach:

Yah.

Orval Scow:

On the railroad.

Steve Wambach:

Yah.

Anne:

Do you use sugar?

Steve Wambach:

No, this is fine. Thank you very much.

Jessica Wambach:

Did he sustain any other injuries in the military? Or was that

Bob:

No, he was wounded. Yah, I don't know, it was a gunshot or something, but I don't know.

Jessica Wambach:

I could ask him if he was

Steve Wambach:

Did they even consider a concussion a wound, then, in World War I?

Orval Scow:

Mhmm.

Steve Wambach:

Is that what his Purple Heart was for or?

Orval Scow:

Oh no, the Purple Heart was for

Steve Wambach:

For another wound, yah.

Bob:

This is really just what we need, oatmeal cookies.

Jessica Wambach:

Were you wounded any other times?

Roy Scow:

No, no. Just once. And I lost, I lost that hearing. That's bad enough.

Orval Scow:

We know he was wounded too.

Roy Scow:

Oh, okay okay.

Anne:

Eat a cookie, to soak up the coffee.

Roy Scow:

Yah....

Anne:

Here, here. Cookie.

Roy Scow:

Okay.

Steve Wambach:

Yah, I didn't think in World War I that if you were to suffer a concussion, they even considered that a legitimate wound, you were just shellshocked.

Orval Scow:

Oh.

Steve Wambach:

Yah.

Orval Scow:

No, he was wounded, probably it was the same thing, that same thing.

Steve Wambach:

Yah, well.

Anne:

Here, let's do this. How's that?

Steve Wambach:

Now did that take him out of the war then, or?

Orval Scow:

Now what?

Steve Wambach:

Did that take him out of the war?

Roy Scow:

That's awful. That's, no, I can't.

Orval Scow:

No, he went back to duty.

Anne:

Can I get you orange juice, or a pop?

Jessica Wambach:

No. I'm fine right now.

Steve Wambach:

Did you after you were wounded, or?

Orval Scow:

What?

Steve Wambach:

When you were wounded, did that take you out, or?

Orval Scow:

Just about, yah, 'cause came down with hepatitis and malaria and yellow fever and everything else on top of it. I was injured in December and I got out of the hospital in the beginning of May at Camp Riley.

Steve Wambach:

And then did you report back to duty or?

Orval Scow:

Oh, heck, yah. I went back to duty.

Steve Wambach:

They didn't send you home?

Orval Scow:

No.

Anne:

If you don't, if you don't have coffee, you can't have cookies.

Orval Scow:

Yah.

Jessica Wambach:

If I ask something about, anything about the silver star, would he, like do you think he would give?

Bob:

I don't know.

Orval Scow:

He might. You never know.

Bob:

That's right.

Steve Wambach:

I think you might get squads right, squads left.

Orval Scow:

Yah.

Jessica Wambach:

Well, I might as well try it.

Bob:

Yah. Squad here. Squad up. Squad left. Squad right.

Orval Scow:

At this point, that might be what you get, huh?

Anne:

Help yourselves.

Bob:

Thanks.

Steve Wambach:

Thank you.

Anne:

Mhmm.

Bev:

That coffee's strong.

Unidentified Speaker:

(unintelligible)

Orval Scow:

How's that? Did you put a pound of sugar in it?

Anne:

No, but I put a...

Roy Scow:

You just can't win, you know?

Bev:

Half.

Roy Scow:

What do you want to win for, it gets you in trouble.

Orval Scow:

He isn't kidding. (unintelligible)

Anne:

Oh yah, go ahead.

Jessica Wambach:

Why did you get a Silver Star?

Roy Scow:

I lost one ear, see.

Bev:

There you go.

Roy Scow:

That's, that's, that's, I just been carrying that dead one around oh, since.

Anne:

Are you about full?

Orval Scow:

No, I just...

Roy Scow:

Well, you know since, since just about...

Unidentified Speaker:

(unintelligible)

Bob:

(unintelligible)

Jessica Wambach:

I'm willing to try anything.

Bob:

Yah.

Steve Wambach:

Jessica, you could ask him if he was happy when the war was over.

Jessica Wambach:

Okay. Good idea. I'm going to ask this next question first though, if I dare.

Bob:

When he was in Minneapolis, he went to shoemaker school too. And uh, he went through sign language.

Steve Wambach:

Did he do it then, after school? Did he make shoes, or?

Bob:

Yep.

Orval Scow:

Yah, a shoe, shoe shop in Manhattan.

Steve Wambach:

Oh, okay.

Bob:

Yah, he had a shoe shop in Manhattan.

Jessica Wambach:

Do you have any stories about the war?

Orval Scow:

Oh, there you go.

Bob:

There you go, yah. The outcome on everything

Steve Wambach:

Squads right. Squads left.

Jessica Wambach:

I know, I know.

Bob:

Imagine being able to read without glasses.

Steve Wambach:

What? Hmm?

Bob:

Imagine being able to read with out glasses when you're one hundred and five.

Steve Wambach:

I couldn't read without glasses when I was five.

Roy Scow:

No, no, that's enough! Every time I think about it it gives me a headache.

Anne:

Oh dear.

Jessica Wambach:

Okay.

Bob:

He don't miss, miss any words does he?

Orval Scow:

I'm surprised he doesn't come out with something a little rougher.

Bob:

I know.

Jessica Wambach:

Okay, well I'll go with your question.

Orval Scow:

(unintelligible)

Steve Wambach:

I think you've got just about all you're going to get out of him about the war.

Jessica Wambach:

I was just about to get off of that part, so I hope he doesn't yell at me.

Steve Wambach:

When did your mother pass away?

Orval Scow:

October seventh of ninety.

Steve Wambach:

Ninety. So she was in her nineties then too, or?

Orval Scow:

No, she was eightysix.

Steve Wambach:

Eightysix.

Jessica Wambach:

Were you glad when the war was over?

Bev:

Oh dear.

Orval Scow:

Oh.

Jessica Wambach:

I have to try.

Bob:

That's right.

Roy Scow:

And how. You know what that means? And how. And how. You know what that means?

Jessica Wambach:

No.

Roy Scow:

If they never have another war that's good enough.

Jessica Wambach:

I didn't know.

Roy Scow:

We couldn't get off for half a day to go fishing.

Bob:

He's got that on the brain. That and alcohol and all the booze.

Jessica Wambach:

Should I ask him if he likes to fish?

Bev:

Yah. Ask him that.

Steve Wambach:

That would be a good one, Jessica.

Anne:

And then he'll invite you to take him.

Jessica Wambach:

Okay, first I'm going to do another one. I'm off of the war.

Orval Scow:

(unintelligible)

Anne:

Are you kidding?

Orval Scow:

(unintelligible)

Anne:

I've got lunch and breakfast.

Orval Scow:

(unintelligible)

Anne:

(unintelligible)

Steve Wambach:

No I'm fine.

Jessica Wambach:

What did you do when you got home from the war?

Roy Scow:

Oh, I couldn't, I couldn't go, I was uh I was fired on the railroad. Was, yes, and then at that time the fireman used a scope, you know, you know, firemen used a scope, you know. FireFiring the engine makes the steam go, you see. Now they don't, these fireman just have a seat box, and that's, that stoker(?), stoker, throws the coal into the fire. He don't, he don't, he don't even get his hands dirtired. Sits up on the seat box and watches the things go by. They think they got a tired tough job, huh? They don't even have clothes that you could poke a hole in. That old stoker throws that coal in the fire box. I don't, you know what a stoker is? A stoker's what, a stoker's what, uh, what, uh, what pulls it out of the (?), out of the tester, out through that, that, it pulls it in there, blows it in there, into the fire. Fireman sits on the seat box, the fireman, 'tee, hee. hee.'

Steve Wambach:

Jessica he's talking about old steam locomotives.

Orval Scow:

Yah.

Bev:

That's right.

Steve Wambach:

That haven't existed for a long time.

Bob:

Mhmm.

Orval Scow:

It's been a long time.

Bev:

Yah.

Jessica Wambach:

Um, then, could you suggest any other questions about what he's, what he did after he got out of the service?

Orval Scow:

Well, he went to shoemaking school.

Bob:

Yah. Samearea.

Orval Scow:

Shoemaker.

Jessica Wambach:

Okay.

Bob:

He had a, he opened, he had a shoe shop in Manhattan.

Orval Scow:

Well he learned it down there in Logan(?).

Bob:

I thought he learned that back east, when he went back for the...

Orval Scow:

No.

Bob:

...and stuff.

Orval Scow:

Nope, down there at Logan. His shoe, shoe training school. He stayed at the old creamery.

Steve Wambach:

Yah.

Bob:

Yep. I'll be darned. That was before my time.

Steve Wambach:

Hmm?

Bob:

That was before my time.

Orval Scow:

Yah, a couple days.

Bob:

He likes to have conversation, to be recognized.

Jessica Wambach:

Did you go to school for shoemaking?

Roy Scow:

No.

Bev:

He doesn't remember.

Roy Scow:

We just we didn't ask, trying to drive out there, driving nails.

Jessica Wambach:

Okay.

Anne:

He doesn't remember a lot.

Roy Scow:

Didn't get better, we was driving nails in the winter, stale.

Orval Scow:

the train,

Anne:

He doesn't remember a lot.

Orval Scow:

He knows, he remembers it, though.

Bob:

Yes. Yes.

Orval Scow:

He just, doesn't, doesn't figure he went in there to be trained. He just figures he went in there to school and

Jessica Wambach:

Okay.

Roy Scow:

We were just at the end of a crazy deal. It was, you're in the Pick up a shovel and throw the coal in the fire box and a.

Bev:

Yep.

Steve Wambach:

He's been getting a pension, his whole life then hasn't he

Orval Scow:

Hmm?

Steve Wambach:

From the Army? Well they've been treating, they've been treating him pretty good?

Orval Scow:

Pardon?

Steve Wambach:

Have they treated him pretty good or?

Orval Scow:

Pretty fair, yah. It hasn't been that long ago, he was going we'd go up there and, we'd take him out there, and he took him out to the fort one time. He beat him home. Yah.

Bob:

He was able to clock(?) me.

Orval Scow:

Huh?

Bob:

He was able to

Orval Scow:

That was nice.

Bob:

I took him out there and the next morning I called Orv and I says, 'you want to go for a ride,' and he says, 'well what for?' and I says, 'we'll go out and see the old man at the fort,' and he says, 'what do you mean go out there," he says, 'he's home.' God.

Jessica Wambach:

Just to see what he has to say about it, um, have, did you have a family of your own? Which is an obvious answer, but.

Unidentified Speaker:

(unintelligible)

Bev:

(unintelligible)

Bob:

Ten.

Roy Scow:

No, that's before my family got here. I wasn't, I wasn't even married then.

Bev:

He's thinking about before, when he went in the service.

Jessica Wambach:

How can I rephrase that?

Bev:

Uh, What familywhat is, who is your family?

Jessica Wambach:

But I asked him, 'Did you have a family of your own?'

Orval Scow:

Oh.

Jessica Wambach:

If I did I think he thought I meant

Roy Scow:

Hey, hey, Orv...Orval can remember. He can, he can tell you what I did. I wasn't, I wasn't even married.

Anne:

Oh, he winked at her!

Bev:

He winked at Jessica.

Orval Scow:

Yah.

Steve Wambach:

Oh!

Anne:

You were the twinkle in his eye.

Bob:

You were the twinkle in his eye, yah. Poor Mary.

Bev:

Oh, Lordy.

Bob:

Poor Mary.

Orval Scow:

That's right. Which one, eh?

Jessica Wambach:

How do you think I could rephrase my question?

Anne:

Uh.

Bev:

Um.

Bev:

Tell me about your wife and family.

Jessica Wambach:

Okay, that works.

Bev:

The next time he (unintelligible).

Roy Scow:

I was a, I was working on the railroad up a lazy fire, with a scoop shovel, shoveling coal in that fire box, and then it would keep the engine going, see. It was just a fire that's what that coal was for, making fire that steamed to run, run, run the engines.

Anne:

See they didn't do that.

Roy Scow:

And I didn't, I didn't get married 'till after I was clear off of there, clear off of the railroad.

Anne:

No.

Roy Scow:

I, I, I got in there and I had a, ear trouble. And I couldn't, I couldn't work on the railroad anymore 'cause I had ayou had to be of good hearing, see. So I got out and I met, met my wife, but we thought we had to, had a hell of a lot of fun so we went and tied up the string see. And when, then we started, we only had nine, see. We had a lot of fun in our young days, didn't we?

Jessica Wambach:

Exactly what I wanted to hear.

Orval Scow:

He started working on the railroad, and then he got married.

Bev:

If you...

Bob:

He married the engineer's daughter.

Steve Wambach:

Oh did he?

Orval Scow:

He married his engineer's daughter.

Bob:

That's what I said.

Orval Scow:

Oh.

Steve Wambach:

And she was quite a bit younger.

Bob:

Yes.

Orval Scow:

Oh yah, about eight years.

Unidentified Speaker:

(unintelligible)

Jessica Wambach:

Um, I'd like to ask him something along the lines of, um, what does he think about Veterans, you know. I don't um.

Orval Scow:

Yah.

Bob:

He...He's very patriotic.

Jessica Wambach:

Okay. Alright. I just

Orval Scow:

Yes.

Bev:

Yes.

Bob:

Very.

Jessica Wambach:

Make sure no one was worried about him saying something, so.

Bob:

Yes. He belonged to the Legion and the Vets forever.

Jessica Wambach:

Okay.

Anne:

Mhmm.

Orval Scow:

And he was in the VFW.

Bob:

Yep.

Orval Scow:

And the DAV.

Bob:

Yep, yep.

Jessica Wambach:

I might have to

Anne:

He helped start this DAV.

Bob:

The DAV, yah.

Orval Scow:

No, no, the VFW.

Anne:

Oh, the VFW, here.

Orval Scow:

There have been several. In East Helena.

Bob:

Yep.

Orval Scow:

Drummond. All over the state.

Bob:

Mhmm.

Bev:

(unintelligible)

Orval Scow:

Yep.

Bob:

Oh yes.

Bev:

Um

Jessica Wambach:

What do you think about Veterans?

Roy Scow:

Well, there was a lot of them out of that World War One, you know. A lot of them, well they just done the best they could, waiting. Some of them, some of them didn't do a damn thing, 'cause they got lazy, see. During the war they didn't do nothing. Then, then when they got in the habit of, protection, see. They were up over the Germans, they, then we, they were off, they were off without, without the whole family.

Jessica Wambach:

Okay. Is he still, um, a member of the Legion?

Bob:

Yes.

Orval Scow:

Yep. That's what

Bob:

Yep.

Orval Scow:

we just got a dues notice in the mail yesterday. We're going to send them in.

Anne:

The Legion and the VFW.

Bob:

The VFW.

Orval Scow:

The Legion and the VFW.

Anne:

Isn't he a life time member of the Masons?

Unidentified Speaker:

(unintelligible)

Bob:

Nope, you've got, you've got to pay every year.

Steve Wambach:

You would think, by now they would have given it to him.

Anne:

That's right, you would think, wouldn't you.

Steve Wambach:

Yah.

Orval Scow:

They did last year they returned his Legion dues.

Bob:

Yah. He's a life member of the Legion now.

Anne:

Same as last year.

Bob:

Yah.

Orval Scow:

Same as last year, yah.

Steve Wambach:

I mean what are they losing, you know?

Anne:

Yah. That's right.

Bob:

Right, yah.

Jessica Wambach:

Remember who's going to be listening to this.

Steve Wambach:

Oh. Okay, yah. Well Jessica, this is where your editing skills come in.

Anne:

Is this going to be edited?

Jessica Wambach:

I don't think so. But, but I don't know.

Anne:

Cutting out our voices I hope.

Jessica Wambach:

Um, there's really not a problem with hearing your voices, because, um, you're helping me.

Orval Scow:

Not as far as I'm concerned.

Jessica Wambach:

Not me.

Orval Scow:

Just telling it like it is.

Jessica Wambach:

Mhmm.

Bob:

Yep, that's the way it, yah. And that's the way it was.

Jessica Wambach:

And, I pick up a lot of information from things that you say about him.

Bev:

(unintelligible)

Steve Wambach:

She's going to write up a transcript of this whole thing too, so.

Unidentified Speaker:

(unintelligible)

Jessica Wambach:

Why are you a member of the American Legion

Roy Scow:

What do you want?

Jessica Wambach:

and the Veterans of Foreign Wars?

Bob:

Do they still have a DAV?

Orval Scow:

DAV? I'm sure.

Jessica Wambach:

Yah, I just I didn't know if I'd confuse him if I did

Orval Scow:

Oh yah.

Bev:

Yah.

Roy Scow:

Just like all the rest of the crazy guys. They thought of something or some, some bit, you just won the low down booze(?). Yah, you're just, just a low down Veteran, that's all. You was in the dag gone Army, that, that makes you, makes you, you're a low down Veteran. They don't say that, but we know what we, how we treated. We, we, we get what's left. We just get what's left after the everybody else gets it.

Jessica Wambach:

Maybe I won't push that issue anymore.

Anne:

No.

Bev:

No.

Jessica Wambach:

I'll just be done with that one.

Bev:

Mhmm.

Roy Scow:

Orval, you ought to know, you ought to know, you was in there.

Unidentified Speaker:

(unintelligible)

Bob:

You still belong to Vets?

Orval Scow:

Hmm?

Bob:

You still belong to the Vets?

Orval Scow:

Just the DAV's all. (unintelligible)

Anne:

The Elks is keeping him broke.

Bob:

Oh, we've got the Moose.

Roy Scow:

You know, if they have any left that they don't want, they throw it our way. Most the time they've got to use it up so, nothing comes our way, you know.

Anne:

You know, gathering from his conversation, you wouldn't think he'd be patriotic. [Interview continues for approximately five minutes unrecorded.]