Forecast Discussions mentioning "ACARS", "MDCRS", "AIRCRAFT", "TAMDAR", or "AMDAR" received at FSL on 10/04/07


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SAN DIEGO CA
230 PM PDT TUE OCT 2 2007 .SYNOPSIS... DRY WEST FLOW ALOFT WILL KEEP THE WEATHER FAIR THROUGH WEDNESDAY. UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE WILL BRING COOLING AND AN INCREASING MARINE LAYER FOR MORE LOW CLOUDS AND FOG WEST OF THE MOUNTAINS DURING THE NIGHTS AND MORNINGS THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. LOCALLY WINDY IN THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS AT TIMES THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. FAIR AND WARMER THIS WEEKEND UNDER HIGH PRESSURE THEN COOLER WITH AN INCREASING MARINE LAYER AGAIN EARLY NEXT WEEK. && .DISCUSSION...FOR EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN CALIFORNIA INCLUDING ORANGE... SAN DIEGO...WESTERN RIVERSIDE AND SOUTHWESTERN SAN BERNARDINO COUNTIES. .SHORT TERM (TODAY-FRI)... SKIES WERE MOSTLY CLEAR TODAY EXCEPT FOR PATCHY FOG IN SW SAN DIEGO COUNTY EARLY THIS MORNING. EARLY AFTERNOON ACARS SOUNDINGS INDICATED AN INVERSION BASED BELOW 1000 FT WITH. OFFSHORE GRADIENTS FROM THE N WITH ABOUT -6 MB SAN-TPH AND WEAK ONSHORE TO THE E. ANY SIGNIFICANT MOISTURE FROM THE REMNANTS OF TROPICAL STORM JULIETTE IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN SE OF OUR AREA WITH DRY WLY FLOW ALOFT. WEAKENING OFFSHORE FLOW WILL KEEP SKIES GENERALLY CLEAR THROUGH WED AFTERNOON EXCEPT FOR PERHAPS A FEW PATCHES OF STRATUS NEAR THE SRN SAN DIEGO COAST LATE TONIGHT AND WED MORNING. AN UPPER TROUGH APPROACHING FROM THE NW WILL CAUSE THE MARINE LAYER TO REDEVELOP WED NIGHT INTO THU MORNING BUT LOW CLOUDS AND FOG WILL STILL BE MAINLY CONFINED TO THE COASTAL AREAS. THE MARINE LAYER WILL DEEPEN MORE THU NIGHT WITH STRATUS GETTING INTO THE COASTAL MOUNTAIN SLOPES. THERE COULD BE LOCAL DRIZZLE FROM THE DEEPER MARINE LAYER THU NIGHT AND FRI MORNING. COOLER THU AND FRI. INCREASING WINDS ALOFT AND STRONGER ONSHORE FLOW WILL CAUSE LOCAL STRONG GUSTY WINDS AT TIMES IN THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS THU AND FRI WITH WINDS NEAR ADVISORY STRENGTH IN THE MOUNTAINS THU NIGHT. && .LONG TERM (SAT-TUE)... AN UPPER RIDGE WILL DEVELOP THROUGH SUN. OFFSHORE FLOW SAT WILL WEAKEN SUN. THIS WILL BRING FAIR WEATHER WITH WARMER DAYS AND LIMITED MARINE LAYER CLOUDINESS. ANOTHER UPPER TROUGH WILL BRING AN INCREASING MARINE LAYER AND COOLING MON AND TUE. && .AVIATION... 022000Z...A FEW PATCHES OF LOW CLOUDS OR FOG MIGHT FORM AT THE IMMEDIATE COAST LATE TONIGHT OTHERWISE WEAK OFFSHORE FLOW SHOULD KEEP THE MARINE LAYER OUT TO SEA WITH CLEAR SKIES EXPECTED THROUGH WEDNESDAY. THERE MAY HOWEVER BE SOME MID AND HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS AT TIMES IN THE FAR SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE AREA THIS EVENING AND WEDNESDAY COMING UP FROM THE SOUTH. && .SGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ PUBLIC...DVA AVIATION...CLARK
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
850 PM EDT WED OCT 3 2007 .SYNOPSIS... THE REGION WILL BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF HIGH PRESSURE THROUGH THE WEEKEND. TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO AVERAGE ABOVE NORMAL INTO THE FIRST PART OF NEXT WEEK. A COLD FRONT WILL APPROACH MIDWEEK. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM THURSDAY MORNING/... ...WIDESPREAD FOG EXPECTED ACROSS BALTIMORE/WASHINGTON METROS... WATER VAPOR LOOP SHOWS A STRONG WAVE LIFTING OVER JAMES BAY...SHEARING SOUTHWEST INTO THE WESTERN GULF OF MEXICO. AN UPPER LOW IS SPINNING OVER THE CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO. ACARS 400-250MB WIND OBSERVATIONS REVEAL A WESTERLY 100-150KT JET ACROSS THE NORTHERN ROCKIES...WHICH TROUGHS NORTH OF THE GREAT LAKES. 19Z SURFACE ANALYSIS PLACED A STALLING COLD FRONT FROM A 983MB CYCLONE NEAR JAMES BAY SOUTHWEST INTO THE PLAINS. A RIDGE EXTENDED SOUTHWEST ALONG THE APPALACHIANS...WITH A 1008MB CYCLONE IN THE CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO. LAST NIGHT...WIDE SWATH OF LOW STRATUS LINE THE EAST COAST WITH ONSHORE FLOW. INLAND COMMUNITIES SAW SOME RADIATIONAL FOG...WITH DENSE RIVER VALLEY FOG NEAR CBE-MRB-HGR. AS THE NEXT SYSTEM SHEARS TO THE NORTHEAST (LEAVING CIRRUS OVER THE NORTHERN FORECAST AREA)...INVERSION HAS LIFTED FROM 1.7KFT TO 2.7KFT AND HAS SIGNIFICANTLY BEEN ERASED (2145Z KIAD ACARS VS 12Z KIAD RAOB). THIS SHOULD COMBINE WITH REMAINING MARINE AIRMASS UNDER GOOD RADIATIONAL COOLING TO PROVIDE WIDESPREAD FOG AND LIMIT INITIAL STRATUS DEVELOPMENT. GUIDANCE SUITE FROM THE 15Z SHORT RANGE ENSEMBLES...18Z LWX WRF-ARW...12Z MET/FWC MOS AND 21Z GFS LAMP...AND 18Z NAM/GFS BUFKIT FORECAST SOUNDINGS ALL SUPPORT A SIGNIFICANT FOG EVENT. GIVEN WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT AND CHANGES SUPPORTING MORE FOG THAN STRATUS TONIGHT...CONFIDENCE IS HIGHER THAN NORMAL. THE AFFECT ON THE MORNING COMMUTE AND THE LONG RANGE COMMUTERS GETTING THEIR LAST PLANNING INFORMATION AT THIS TIME IN CONJUNCTION WITH CONFIDENCE HAS LED TO THE DECISION TO ISSUE A DENSE FOG ADVISORY. LOCATIONS IN WESTERN MARYLAND AND THE PAN HANDLE OF WEST VIRGINIA WILL SEE LESS WIDESPREAD FOG IN FAVOR FOR RIVER VALLEY FOG NEAR CBE-MRB-HGR (THIS MAY BE LIMITED SOME BY CIRRUS HOWEVER). GUIDANCE WAS TOO COLD FOR LOW TEMPERATURES LAST NIGHT WHERE THE STRATUS FORMED. SINCE THE THINKING IS LESS STRATUS INITIALLY...WENT CLOSE TO THE 12Z MET MOS AND ADJUSTED FOR LOCAL BIAS. && .SHORT TERM /6 AM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH 6 PM THURSDAY/... FOG EXPECTED TO MIX OUT DURING THE MID MORNING AS THE NOCTURNAL INVERSION ERODES...LEADING TO DEVELOPMENT OF CU FIELD. CIRRUS FROM THE NORTHWEST AND SOUTH EXPECTED TO IMPINGE ON FORECAST AREA...SO CALLED FOR A PARTLY SUNNY SKY. WITH RECENT WARM SPELL...GUIDANCE HAS BEEN TOO COOL. BUMPED UP FORECAST TEMPERATURES CLOSER TO 12Z MAVMOS AND ADJUSTED FOR LOCAL BIAS. LIGHT SOUTHEAST WINDS BASED ON 12Z NAM. THE RECORD HIGH AT DULLES LOOKS IN RANGE. && .LONG TERM /THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... THE UPPER RIDGE AXIS OFF THE ATLANTIC COAST WILL BEGIN TO RETROGRADE LATE THURS...AND AGAIN STRENGTHEN OVER THE SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL APPALACHIAN REGION THRU THE WEEKEND. BEFORE THE UPPER RIDGE BUILDS ACROSS THE AREA...A FEW WEAK PUSH OF LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WILL SWING N/WRD OFF THE CAROLINA COAST. THE UPPER RIDGE OFF THE ATLANTIC COAST WILL WEAKEN ENOUGH ON FRIDAY TO ALLOW A SMALL PUSH OF MOISTURE UP THE EASTERN SEABOARD INTO PORTIONS OF CNTRL/SRN VA. STILL...LITTLE IF ANY RAINFALL IS EXPECTED ACROSS THE CWA THRU THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. GFS/ECMWF COMING INTO BETTER AGREEMENT ON THE STRONG UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCE ACROSS THE CENTRAL ROCKIES EARLY NEXT WEEK. RUN TO RUN...LONG RANGE MODELS CONTINUES TO SHOW THE SYSTEM SLOWING DOWN AND THE TRACK IS EVEN MORE UNCERTAIN. TRENDS ARE BEGINNING TO POINT TOWARD A E/NE TREK ACROSS OVER MICHIGAN AND THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES REGION BY TUES/WED. MON INTO TUES...THE GFS LAYS A WEAK STATIONARY BOUNDARY JUST TO THE NORTH OF THE AREA...LEFT OVER FROM A WEAK RESIDUAL AREA FROM A FAST MOVING UPPER DISTURBANCE MOVING SE ACROSS NEW ENGLAND ON SUNDAY. WITH THE CURRENT TREK OF THE UPPER LOW...A STRONG COLD FRONT IS EXPECTED TO APPROACH THE AREA TUES/WED... WEAKENING BEFORE REACHING THE MID ATLANTIC LATE WED/THURS. && .AVIATION /01Z THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... GOOD MIXING OCCURRED THIS AFTERNOON...AS INVERSION LIFTED FROM 1.7KFT TO 2.7KFT AND HAS SIGNIFICANTLY BEEN ERASED (2145Z KIAD ACARS VS 12Z KIAD RAOB). THIS WILL REDUCE STRATUS COVERAGE...BUT WITH MARINE AIRMASS IN PLACE...EXPECT WIDESPREAD DENSE FOG DEVELOPMENT AROUND METRO HUBS AND KMRB (RIVER VALLEY) LATE TONIGHT. EXPECT IMPROVEMENT DURING THE MID MORNING AS THE NOCTURNAL INVERSION IS ERASED. THRU THE END OF THE WEEK...NO ISSUES W/ WIND OR SKY COVER WITH THE UPPER RIDGE CONTINUING TO INFLUENCE THE REGION FROM JUST OFF THE ATLANTIC COAST. A SMALL SURGE OF MOISTURE IS EXPECTED FROM THE SOUTH ON FRIDAY...THOUGH WILL LIKELY DISSIPATE AS IT APPROACHES THE MID ATLANTIC. THE HIGH PRESSURE AREA BUILDS BACK IN ACROSS THE EASTERN SEABOARD EARLY NEXT WEEK...WITH A POSSIBLE FRONTAL PASSAGE DURING THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. && .MARINE... MOST SIGNIFICANT ISSUE IS FOG DEVELOPMENT OVERNIGHT. MARINERS WILL NOTICE BEST FOG COVERAGE AND WORST VISIBILITIES WILL BE WITHIN INLETS AND OBSCURING THE COASTLINE. VISIBILITIES EXPECTED TO IMPROVE DURING THE MID MORNING. SOUTHERLY WINDS 5-10KTS BEING OBSERVED THIS EVENING...EXPECTED TO SLACKEN OVERNIGHT UNDER INFLUENCE OF SURFACE RIDGE. AS THE RIDGE MOVES OFF THE COAST TOMORROW...EXPECT WINDS TO BECOME SOUTHEAST AROUND 10KTS. NO WIND ISSUES THRU THE WEEKEND...WITH ONLY WEAK SOUTHEASTERLY CHANNELING INTO THE BAY FRI/SAT AS THE HIGH WEAKENS OFF THE COAST AND SHIFTS BACK TOWARD THE WEST. THE BEGINNING OF NEXT WEEK LOOKS QUIET...WITH A COLD FRONT EXPECTED TO CROSS THE AREA BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK. && .LWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... DC...DENSE FOG ADVISORY FROM 4 AM TO 9 AM EDT THURSDAY FOR DCZ001. MD...DENSE FOG ADVISORY FROM 4 AM TO 9 AM EDT THURSDAY FOR MDZ003>007-009>011-013-014-016>018-501-502. VA...DENSE FOG ADVISORY FROM 4 AM TO 9 AM EDT THURSDAY FOR VAZ041- 042-050>057. WV...DENSE FOG ADVISORY FROM 4 AM TO 9 AM EDT THURSDAY FOR WVZ051>053. MARINE...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...HTS NEAR TERM...ROGOWSKI SHORT TERM...ROGOWSKI LONG TERM...GMS AVIATION...ROGOWSKI/GMS MARINE...ROGOWSKI/GMS
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GAYLORD MI
1031 AM EDT TUE OCT 2 2007 .UPDATE...PRETTY SIZABLE HOLE IN THE LOW CLOUDS HAS ALREADY OPENED UP ALONG THE M-33/M-65 CORRIDORS IN NE LOWER MI. THERE ARE ALSO BREAKS ALONG THE LAKE MI COAST NEAR AND SOUTH OF MBL. ELSEWHERE... FOG AND STRATUS CONTINUE WITH SLOW IMPROVEMENT IN CIGS/VSBYS. CIRRUS IS ALREADY ADVECTING INTO THE REGION OVER TOP OF THE LOW STUFF...AND IN ADVANCE OF TONIGHT/S SYSTEM. CLOUD/TEMP TRENDS ARE THE CLEAR MAIN CONCERN FOR THE REST OF THE DAY. NW LOWER AND EASTERN UPPER MI ARE THE MAIN QUESTION MARKS...AND MAINLY FROM AN AVIATION STANDPOINT. THERE/S ENOUGH CIRRUS MOVING IN FOR A MOSTLY CLOUDY FORECAST...NO MATTER WHAT THE LOW CLOUDS DO. AM INCLINED TO THINK THE CLEARING OF LOW CLOUDS IN NW LOWER/EASTERN UPPER WILL BE SLOW...THANKS TO THAT CLOUD COVER COMING OVER THE TOP HINDERING MIXING/HEATING. SHOULD STILL SEE THE STRATUS RISE/BREAK UP TO STRATOCU...BUT IT WON/T HAPPEN TIL LATE AFTERNOON IN SOME SPOTS. EARLIER FORECASTS LARGELY ACCOUNTED FOR THIS...AGAIN MAIN TWEAKS HAVE BEEN TO AVIATION PRODUCTS. DUE TO CLOUD TRENDS...WILL TWEAK MAX TEMPS DOWN IN THE WEST AND UP IN THE EAST. ZOLTOWSKI && .AVIATION...ISSUED 728 AM TUE OCT 2...WIDESPREAD IFR CONDITIONS WITH PATCHY DRIZZLE AND AREAS OF FOG WITH CIGS BASED AOA 1000 FEET THIS MORNING WILL BECOME MVFR INTO THE AFTERNOON AS STRENGTHENING SOUTHERLY WINDS PROMOTE MIXING WITH DRIER AIR ADVANCING IN ALOFT. TAMDAR SOUNDINGS SHOW LOW LEVEL MOISTURE UPSTREAM REMAINS ROUGHLY 1.5KFT THICK WHICH SHOULD SUSTAIN BKN-OVC 020-030 CIGS THROUGH MUCH OF THE DAY WITH OVERCAST CONDITIONS THROUGH THE MORNING. A PERIOD OF VFR IS POSSIBLE LATER THIS AFTERNOON...BUT MAINLY IN THE EVENING AS WINDS RAMP UP JUST OFF THE SURFACE AND LLWS DEVELOPING OVER THE REGION BY MIDNIGHT. SFC COOL FRONT...A WIND SHIFT AND RAIN SHOWERS ENTER THE FORECAST TOWARD DAYBREAK. SMD && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 451 AM EDT TUE OCT 2 2007/ DISCUSSION...SFC/RUC/SATELLITE/RADAR AND UPPER AIR ANALYSIS SHOWING MID LEVEL TROUGH SWINGING EAST OF THE REGION WITH THE DEEPER MID LEVEL MOISTURE GOING ALONG FOR THE RIDE. 00Z APX SOUNDING LIKELY MUCH LESS DRIER NOW ABOVE 850MB. MID AND UPPER 50S SFC TD`S STILL HANGING AROUND...WITHIN ILL-DEFINED LOW PRESSURE/TROUGH AXIS SITUATED ACROSS NRN MICHIGAN...BUT THIS MOISTURE IS STILL DEEP ENOUGH TO MAKE STRATUS...RATHER THAN FOG THE DOMINANT WEATHER ATTM. EVIDENCE OF THIS STILL RATHER DEEP LOW LEVEL MOISTURE COMES FROM THE VERY LIGHT RETURNS...OR PATCHY DRIZZLE...SEEN ON RADAR. THIS THICK LOW LEVEL CLOUD COVER HAS KEPT TEMPS IN THE UPPER 50S TO LOWER 60S...SO WE ARE ENJOYING A RATHER MILD OCTOBER NIGHT. FORECAST CONCERNS...FOG EARLY THIS MORNING...CLEARING POTENTIAL FOR THIS AFTERNOON...THEN PRECIP CHANCES WITH NEXT FRONTAL SYSTEM ARRIVING LATE TONIGHT INTO TOMORROW MORNING. TODAY...DEEPER MID LEVEL MOISTURE WILL CONTINUE TO SLIDE EAST INTO THE EARLY MORNING...BUT NOT BEFORE PATCHY DRIZZLE CAN CONTINUE TO AFFECT A FEW AREAS THIS MORNING. AS THE DEEPER MOISTURE TRACKS EAST...FOG WILL BECOME MORE OF A CONCERN...PROVIDED IT CAN DEVELOP BEFORE SUNRISE. THIS LOOKS TO BE THE CASE FOR WESTERN CHIP/MACK COUNTIES...AND AREAS SOUTH OF GTV BAY...WHERE MOISTURE SHOULD BE THIN/BUT HIGH ENOUGH IN THE LOWEST 50-100MB FOR FOG TO BE A CONCERN. ALREADY SEEING CEILINGS DIPPING TO LESS THAN 500 FEET IN THESE PLACES...AND VISBYS WERE LOWEST IN THESE AREAS. WILL ASSUME THAT THE NEXT FEW HOURS WILL CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE A GREATER THREAT FOR 1/2SM OR LESS VISBYS...BUT DO NOT THINK A DENSE FOG ADVISORY WILL BE WARRANTED DUE TO THE LIMITED WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY THROUGH DAYBREAK. MODELS INSIST ON STRIPPING OUT ENOUGH LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WITH STRENGTHENING SOUTH WINDS TODAY AHEAD OF OUR NEXT FRONTAL SYSTEM WHICH WILL MAKE IT INTO WISCONSIN BY LATE THIS AFTERNOON. LOTS OF HIGHER CLOUD SEEN MOVING IN FROM THE WEST OVERNIGHT...SO EVEN IF THE LOW CLOUDS ERODE QUICKLY BY MIDDAY...HIGHER LEVEL CLOUDS WILL LIKELY MAKE THE SKY REMAIN MOSTLY CLOUDY. TEMPERATURES WILL NOT RISE A BUNCH...TOPPING OUT IN THE MILD UPPER 60S AND LOWER 70S. TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY...COOL FRONT WILL ARRIVE IN NRN MICHIGAN LATE TONIGHT AND INTO WEDNESDAY MORNING. SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL INCREASE THROUGH THE NIGHT TO 35-40KTS AT 950MB RESULTING IN LLWS CONCERNS...MILE TEMPS AGAIN OVERNIGHT...AND SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY CONDITIONS IN SOME OF THE NEARSHORE ZONES. MOISTURE WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE OUT AHEAD OF THIS SYSTEM...RESULTING IN MOSTLY CLOUDY SKIES FOR MOST AREAS. THIS COOL FRONT WILL BE A QUICK ONE...AND NOT THE MOST POTENT OF SYSTEMS...AS H8-H5 MOISTURE BAND SLOWLY THINS WITH THE FRONT BY THE TIME IT ARRIVES HERE. THERE REALLY ISN`T A WELL DEFINED WARM FRONT TO MOVE IN...HOWEVER A MODEST BAND OF H8-H5 -DIVQ WITH THE MOISTURE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPARK OFF SOME RAIN SHOWERS. TIMING WAS HARD TO ARGUE FROM ONGOING FORECAST...IN KEEPING MAINLY AN AFTER MIDNIGHT RAINFALL. DID TWEAK THE CHANCES FOR RAIN WHICH LOOKS LIKELY FOR A GOOD PORTION OF THE REGION. THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE FOR THOSE AREAS CLOSER TO LAKE MICHIGAN WHERE MOISTURE SHOULD BE GREATEST. THE SOUTH WINDS WILL GUST TO 25 KNOTS OR SO FROM MANISTEE TO SLEEPING BEAR POINT WITH THE HELP OF COASTAL CONVERGENCE...WITH FUNNELING EFFECTS ACROSS TAWAS. THE WINDS TURN MORE SW WHICH LOOK TO GET ALL OF THE LAKE MICHIGAN NEARSHORE ZONES IN PLAY FOR A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY. HAVE ISSUED THIS HEADLINE WITH THE 4AM ISSUANCE. SIMILAR GUSTS TO OCCUR WITH THE FRONTAL PASSAGE WHICH CLEARS MOST OF THE AREA BY MIDDAY TOMORROW...SO RAN THE HEADLINE THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING. LOWS WILL BE IN THE UPPER 50S TO AROUND 60...WHILE THE HIGHS TOP OUT IN THE UPPER 60S TO LOWER 70S. WEDNESDAY NIGHT ONWARD...FRONT WILL BE WELL EAST...AND A MUCH DRIER AIR MASS MOVES IN OVERHEAD. H8-H5 MOISTURE DROPS TO 15 TO 45 PERCENT (HIGHEST ACROSS EASTERN UPPER /FAR NRN LOWER). WILL KEEP THINGS PRECIP-FREE UNTIL FRIDAY WHEN A WARM FRONT IS EXPECTED TO LAY OUT ACROSS EASTERN UPPER FOR A POSSIBLE RETURN FOR A CHANCE OF SHOWERS. UNTIL THEN...TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN MILD WITH HIGHS IN THE 70S...AND LOWS IN THE 50S. NO MAJOR CHANGES IN THIS TIME PERIOD. SMD && .APX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...NONE. LM...NONE. LH...NONE. LS...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GAYLORD MI
728 AM EDT TUE OCT 2 2007 .AVIATION...WIDESPREAD IFR CONDITIONS WITH PATCHY DRIZZLE AND AREAS OF FOG WITH CIGS BASED AOA 1000 FEET THIS MORNING WILL BECOME MVFR INTO THE AFTERNOON AS STRENGTHENING SOUTHERLY WINDS PROMOTE MIXING WITH DRIER AIR ADVANCING IN ALOFT. TAMDAR SOUNDINGS SHOW LOW LEVEL MOISTURE UPSTREAM REMAINS ROUGHLY 1.5KFT THICK WHICH SHOULD SUSTAIN BKN-OVC 020-030 CIGS THROUGH MUCH OF THE DAY WITH OVERCAST CONDITIOSN THROUGH THE MORNING. A PERIOD OF VFR IS POSSIBLE LATER THIS AFTERNOON...BUT MAINLY IN THE EVENING AS WINDS RAMP UP JUST OFF THE SURFACE AND LLWS DEVELOPING OVER THE REGION BY MIDNIGHT. SFC COOL FRONT...A WIND SHIFT AND RAIN SHOWERS ENTER THE FORECAST TOWARD DAYBREAK. SMD && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 451 AM EDT TUE OCT 2 2007/ DISCUSSION...SFC/RUC/SATELLITE/RADAR AND UPPER AIR ANALYSIS SHOWING MID LEVEL TROUGH SWINGING EAST OF THE REGION WITH THE DEEPER MID LEVEL MOISTURE GOING ALONG FOR THE RIDE. 00Z APX SOUNDING LIKELY MUCH LESS DRIER NOW ABOVE 850MB. MID AND UPPER 50S SFC TD`S STILL HANGING AROUND...WITHIN ILL-DEFINED LOW PRESSURE/TROUGH AXIS SITUATED ACROSS NRN MICHIGAN...BUT THIS MOISTURE IS STILL DEEP ENOUGH TO MAKE STRATUS...RATHER THAN FOG THE DOMINANT WEATHER ATTM. EVIDENCE OF THIS STILL RATHER DEEP LOW LEVEL MOISTURE COMES FROM THE VERY LIGHT RETURNS...OR PATCHY DRIZZLE...SEEN ON RADAR. THIS THICK LOW LEVEL CLOUD COVER HAS KEPT TEMPS IN THE UPPER 50S TO LOWER 60S...SO WE ARE ENJOYING A RATHER MILD OCTOBER NIGHT. FORECAST CONCERNS...FOG EARLY THIS MORNING...CLEARING POTENTIAL FOR THIS AFTERNOON...THEN PRECIP CHANCES WITH NEXT FRONTAL SYSTEM ARRIVING LATE TONIGHT INTO TOMORROW MORNING. TODAY...DEEPER MID LEVEL MOISTURE WILL CONTINUE TO SLIDE EAST INTO THE EARLY MORNING...BUT NOT BEFORE PATCHY DRIZZLE CAN CONTINUE TO AFFECT A FEW AREAS THIS MORNING. AS THE DEEPER MOISTURE TRACKS EAST...FOG WILL BECOME MORE OF A CONCERN...PROVIDED IT CAN DEVELOP BEFORE SUNRISE. THIS LOOKS TO BE THE CASE FOR WESTERN CHIP/MACK COUNTIES...AND AREAS SOUTH OF GTV BAY...WHERE MOISTURE SHOULD BE THIN/BUT HIGH ENOUGH IN THE LOWEST 50-100MB FOR FOG TO BE A CONCERN. ALREADY SEEING CEILINGS DIPPING TO LESS THAN 500 FEET IN THESE PLACES...AND VISBYS WERE LOWEST IN THESE AREAS. WILL ASSUME THAT THE NEXT FEW HOURS WILL CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE A GREATER THREAT FOR 1/2SM OR LESS VISBYS...BUT DO NOT THINK A DENSE FOG ADVISORY WILL BE WARRANTED DUE TO THE LIMITED WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY THROUGH DAYBREAK. MODELS INSIST ON STRIPPING OUT ENOUGH LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WITH STRENGTHENING SOUTH WINDS TODAY AHEAD OF OUR NEXT FRONTAL SYSTEM WHICH WILL MAKE IT INTO WISCONSIN BY LATE THIS AFTERNOON. LOTS OF HIGHER CLOUD SEEN MOVING IN FROM THE WEST OVERNIGHT...SO EVEN IF THE LOW CLOUDS ERODE QUICKLY BY MIDDAY...HIGHER LEVEL CLOUDS WILL LIKELY MAKE THE SKY REMAIN MOSTLY CLOUDY. TEMPERATURES WILL NOT RISE A BUNCH...TOPPING OUT IN THE MILD UPPER 60S AND LOWER 70S. TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY...COOL FRONT WILL ARRIVE IN NRN MICHIGAN LATE TONIGHT AND INTO WEDNESDAY MORNING. SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL INCREASE THROUGH THE NIGHT TO 35-40KTS AT 950MB RESULTING IN LLWS CONCERNS...MILE TEMPS AGAIN OVERNIGHT...AND SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY CONDITIONS IN SOME OF THE NEARSHORE ZONES. MOISTURE WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE OUT AHEAD OF THIS SYSTEM...RESULTING IN MOSTLY CLOUDY SKIES FOR MOST AREAS. THIS COOL FRONT WILL BE A QUICK ONE...AND NOT THE MOST POTENT OF SYSTEMS...AS H8-H5 MOISTURE BAND SLOWLY THINS WITH THE FRONT BY THE TIME IT ARRIVES HERE. THERE REALLY ISN`T A WELL DEFINED WARM FRONT TO MOVE IN...HOWEVER A MODEST BAND OF H8-H5 -DIVQ WITH THE MOISTURE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPARK OFF SOME RAIN SHOWERS. TIMING WAS HARD TO ARGUE FROM ONGOING FORECAST...IN KEEPING MAINLY AN AFTER MIDNIGHT RAINFALL. DID TWEAK THE CHANCES FOR RAIN WHICH LOOKS LIKELY FOR A GOOD PORTION OF THE REGION. THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE FOR THOSE AREAS CLOSER TO LAKE MICHIGAN WHERE MOISTURE SHOULD BE GREATEST. THE SOUTH WINDS WILL GUST TO 25 KNOTS OR SO FROM MANISTEE TO SLEEPING BEAR POINT WITH THE HELP OF COASTAL CONVERGENCE...WITH FUNNELING EFFECTS ACROSS TAWAS. THE WINDS TURN MORE SW WHICH LOOK TO GET ALL OF THE LAKE MICHIGAN NEARSHORE ZONES IN PLAY FOR A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY. HAVE ISSUED THIS HEADLINE WITH THE 4AM ISSUANCE. SIMILAR GUSTS TO OCCUR WITH THE FRONTAL PASSAGE WHICH CLEARS MOST OF THE AREA BY MIDDAY TOMORROW...SO RAN THE HEADLINE THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING. LOWS WILL BE IN THE UPPER 50S TO AROUND 60...WHILE THE HIGHS TOP OUT IN THE UPPER 60S TO LOWER 70S. WEDNESDAY NIGHT ONWARD...FRONT WILL BE WELL EAST...AND A MUCH DRIER AIR MASS MOVES IN OVERHEAD. H8-H5 MOISTURE DROPS TO 15 TO 45 PERCENT (HIGHEST ACROSS EASTERN UPPER /FAR NRN LOWER). WILL KEEP THINGS PRECIP-FREE UNTIL FRIDAY WHEN A WARM FRONT IS EXPECTED TO LAY OUT ACROSS EASTERN UPPER FOR A POSSIBLE RETURN FOR A CHANCE OF SHOWERS. UNTIL THEN...TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN MILD WITH HIGHS IN THE 70S...AND LOWS IN THE 50S. NO MAJOR CHANGES IN THIS TIME PERIOD. SMD && .APX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...NONE. LM...NONE. LH...NONE. LS...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
431 AM EDT TUE OCT 2 2007 .SYNOPSIS... 07Z WATER VAPOR IMAGERY AND RUC 500MB HEIGHT ANALYSIS SHOWED RIDGING COVERING MUCH OF THE EAST HALF OF THE U.S....EXCLUDING AN UPPER LOW OVER LAKE ERIE...AND A TROUGH STRETCHING FROM CENTRAL MONTANA INTO NORTHERN UTAH. QUIET WEATHER CURRENTLY EXISTS ACROSS THE CWA WITH THE AREA BETWEEN THE UPPER LOW AND TROUGH...WITH THE ONLY ISSUES BEING IN THE AVIATION DEPARTMENT WITH LOW CLOUDS AND VISIBILITIES STUCK UNDERNEATH A RADIATIONAL AND COLD FRONTAL INVERSION (SEE 00Z APX SOUNDING). SO FAR...THE ONLY PLACES AROUND DENSE FOG ADVISORY CRITERIA ARE ESC...MNM...ISQ AND ERY PER OBS. THESE LOW CLOUDS EXTEND INTO EASTERN MN...AND HAVE HELPED TO KEEP TEMPERATURES AND DEWPOINTS UP INTO THE MID TO UPPER 50S. TO THE WEST...LOW PRESSURE HAS DEVELOPED NEAR PIERRE SOUTH DAKOTA DUE TO DOWNSLOPING FLOW OFF THE ROCKIES AND HEIGHT FALLS AHEAD OF THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST TROUGH. VERY LITTLE IN THE WAY OF PCPN IS OCCURRING ALONG THE LOWS ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT...WITH MOSTLY HIGH CLOUDS PRESENT. THIS IS DUE TO A LOT OF LOW AND MID LEVEL DRY AIR AS SEEN ON THE 00Z NORTH PLATTE NEBRASKA SOUNDING. ANY PCPN AT THE MOMENT WITH THE ENTIRE TROUGH IS FARTHER WEST OVER UTAH AND COLORADO. ALTHOUGH THE PCPN IS FAIRLY MINIMAL...THE SYSTEM IS PRODUCING PLENTY OF WIND...WITH PROFILERS ACROSS NEBRASKA AND WESTERN KANSAS IN THE 40-50KT RANGE AT 850MB. THESE WINDS...MOSTLY FROM THE SSW...ARE TRANSPORTING 850MB DEWPOINTS OF AROUND 10C NORTHWARD FROM WEST TEXAS AND SW KANSAS PER 00Z RAOBS. && .DISCUSSION... TODAY AND TONIGHT...MODELS (GFS/NAM/UKMET/CANADIAN) ARE ALL IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH REGARDS TO THE PROGRESSION AND TIMING OF THE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH AND COLD FRONT MOVING EASTWARD. THEY ALL HAVE TRENDED TOWARDS THE SLOWER IDEA PRESENTED BY THE 00Z NAM/UKMET SHOWN YESTERDAY. BY 00Z WED...THE TROUGH IS PROGGED TO BE OVER CENTRAL MINNESOTA WITH THE COLD FRONT IN WESTERN WI. BY 12Z WED...BOTH THE TROUGH AND FRONT ARE PROGGED TO BE LOCATED OVER EASTERN ONTARIO AND LOWER MICHIGAN...WITH STRONG DRYING COMING IN BEHIND IT. UNTIL THAT OCCURS...THE AREA WILL BE UNDER A WARM ADVECTION PATTERN AHEAD OF THE TROUGH...WHICH SHOULD BRING UP A NARROW ZONE OF 850MB THETA-E ADVECTION INTO THE CWA. WITHIN THIS ZONE...SHOWERS AND SOME THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP AS HEIGHT FALLS COME ACROSS FROM THE UPPER TROUGH. IT APPEARS THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL TAKE PLACE EARLY THIS AFTERNOON OVER MN/WI AND PERHAPS THE FAR WESTERN U.P....THEN GRADUALLY MOVE EASTWARD THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AND NIGHT. BEST CHANCES FOR RAIN APPEARS TO BE TONIGHT...THOUGH...GIVEN THE SLOWER MOTION PROGGED WITH THE TROUGH/COLD FRONT. TEMPERATURES WILL HAVE A HARD TIME WARMING WITH ALL THE CLOUD COVER...BUT SOUTHERLY WINDS SHOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE AT LEAST A 5-10 DEGREE RISE. BUMPED UP LOWS TONIGHT...PARTICULARLY IN THE EAST DUE TO THE SLOWER MOTION OF THE FRONT. WED THROUGH THU...DRY AIR ADVECTION THAT OCCURRED BEHIND TONIGHTS UPPER TROUGH SHOULD SET THE STAGE FOR QUIET WEATHER DURING THIS PERIOD. AN UPPER TROUGH CURRENTLY OVER THE EAST PACIFIC IS PROGGED TO DIG DOWN INTO THE WEST COAST...CAUSING HEIGHT RISES DOWNSTREAM. THESE HEIGHT RISES WILL PROMPT WARM ADVECTION OVER THE AREA...HOWEVER GIVEN THE DRY AIRMASS PRESENT...VERY LITTLE CLOUD COVER IS EXPECTED. ONLY ACROSS ISLE ROYALE AND WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR WED NIGHT AND THU IS THERE EXPECTED TO BE PARTLY TO MOSTLY CLOUDY SKIES...WHERE THE BEST MOISTURE CONVERGENCE IS PROGGED. THE WARM ADVECTION WILL ALLOW 850MB TEMPS TO CLIMB TO 8C AT 18Z WED AND TO 14C BY 18Z THU. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MIX UP TO 850MB ON WED...GIVEN THE COOLER CONDITIONS...AND THUS ALLOW HIGHS TO REACH THE UPPER 60S TO LOW 70S. ON THU...GIVEN THE SUN ANGLE...IT MAY BE HARD TO REACH 850MB...AND THUS HAVE ONLY WENT WITH HIGHS IN THE LOW TO MID 70S. THU NIGHT AND FRI...WARM AND MOIST AIR ADVECTION IS PROGGED TO INCREASE ACROSS THE PLAINS...UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND WESTERN GREAT LAKES AS THE TROUGH OVER THE WEST COAST CONTINUES TO DIG TOWARDS THE FOUR CORNERS. LEFT IN SLIGHT CHANCE POPS FOR AFTER 06Z THU NIGHT FOR THE FAR WESTERN U.P. AND WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR WHERE ENOUGH MOISTENING OF THE LOW AND MID LEVELS TAKE PLACE. CONDITIONS LOOK BETTER FOR PCPN DEVELOPING ON FRI WITH CONTINUED MOISTENING AND THE PROSPECTS OF A SHRTWV OR SHRTWVS CROSSING...AS INDICATED BY THE 00Z ECMWF/GFS. TO GIVE AN IDEA OF THE MOISTENING...850MB DEWPOINTS AT IMT CLIMB FROM -4C AT 00Z FRI TO 12C AT 00Z SAT. HAVE INCREASED POPS TO 40 FOR FRI. FRI NIGHT THROUGH SUN...THIS PERIOD OF THE FORECAST CAN HAVE A LOT OF BUST POTENTIAL...WITH UNCERTAINTIES ABOUT HOW THE WESTERN TROUGH EVOLVES. IT DOES SEEM LIKE...THOUGH...THAT MODELS ARE FOCUSING ONTO MORE RIDGING ACROSS UPPER MICHIGAN WITH THE ONLY EXCEPTION BEING THE 00Z UKMET WHICH IS VERY PROGRESSIVE WITH THE WESTERN TROUGH. THE SCENARIO OF MORE RIDGING...WITH A POSSIBLE FRONTAL BOUNDARY OVER THE AREA SEEMS MORE LIKELY. TO THE SOUTH OF THIS BOUNDARY...WARM AND HUMID CONDITIONS FOR OCTOBER ARE EXPECTED. NORTH OF THE BOUNDARY...COOLER WEATHER WITH SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS SEEM LIKELY WITH 850MB DEWPOINTS AROUND 14C. EITHER WAY...IT WAS NECESSARY TO RAISE TEMPERATURES UP THROUGH THE PERIOD...WITH A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE ON FRI NIGHT WITH A WARM FRONTAL BOUNDARY PROGGED TO BE JUST NORTH OF UPPER MICHIGAN. MORE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE EXTENDED WILL BE NEEDED. && .AVIATION (FOR THE 06Z TAF ISSUANCE)... THE STRATUS DECK OVER THE AREA HAS HELPED TO LIMIT FOG FORMATION THIS EVENING. NEVERTHELESS...CANNOT RULE OUT LOWER STRATUS OR FOG FORMATION LATER TONIGHT WITH VSBY FALLING AOB 1SM GIVEN ABUNDANT MOISTURE EVIDENT ON 00Z KSAW TAMDAR SOUNDING IN THE SFC-900 MB LAYER. STRENGTHENING SRLY FLOW AND DEEPER MIXING TUE AHEAD OF THE NEXT TROUGH SHOULD HELP LIFT CIGS TO VFR IN THE AFTERNOON. THE BULK OF THE PCPN WITH THE NEXT SHORTWAVE TROUGH IS EXPECTED TO HOLD OFF UNTIL UNTIL AROUND 22Z AT KCMX AND 01Z AT KSAW. PCPN WITH SHOWERS AND POSSIBLY AND A FEW ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS WILL HELP LOWER CIGS/VSBYS BACK INTO THE MVFR RANGE. && .MARINE (FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FCST ISSUANCE)... NEXT ACTIVE LOW PRES TROUGH WILL RACE E FROM THE PLAINS TODAY AND CROSS LAKE SUPERIOR TONIGHT. SRLY WINDS WILL RAMP UP IN ADVANCE OF THIS TROUGH TO GENERALLY 15 TO 25KT...BUT IT`S NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION THAT A FEW GALE FORCE GUSTS TO 35 KT COULD OCCUR OVER THE E HALF OF THE LAKE LATE THIS AFTN/EVENING. W GALE FORCE GUSTS TO 35 KT COULD OCCUR IMMEDIATELY AFTER TROF PASSAGE FROM AROUND THE KEWEENAW PENINSULA EWD LATE TONIGHT/EARLY WED MORNING. WINDS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE FCST (WED AFTN THRU SAT) SHOULD GENERALLY BE IN THE 10 TO 20KT RANGE WITH AN OCCASIONAL PERIOD OF 15 TO 25KT. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 11 AM EDT TUESDAY MIZ004>007-010>014-084-085. && $$ SYNOPSIS/DISCUSSION...AJ AVIATION...JLB MARINE...ROLFSON
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS MARQUETTE MI
130 AM EDT TUE OCT 2 2007 UPDATED FOR AVIATION DISCUSSION .UPDATE (ISSUED AT 1030 PM EDT)... 11-3.9MICRON SATELLITE LOOP AND SURFACE OBS INDICATED A LARGE AREA OF STRATUS OVER THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES IN THE WAKE OF THE DEPARTING MID LEVEL AND SURFACE LOW OVER LOWER MI. THE 00Z KSAW TAMDAR SOUNDING SHOWED ABUNDANT SFC-900 MB MOISTURE WITH SIGNIFICANT DRYING FROM 850 TO 700 MB. EVEN THOUGH THE STRATUS DECK HAS DELAYED THE ONSET OF SIGNIFICANT FOG...EXPECT THAT THE 900-700 MB DRYING WILL EVENTUALLY...LIGHT WINDS AND DIURNAL COOLING WILL ALLOW THE STRATUS AND SOME DENSE FOG DEVELOPMENT OVERNIGHT OVER CNTRL UPPER MI. SO...THE DENSE FOG ADVISORY WAS LEFT IN PLACE. .SYNOPSIS...A CLOSED LOW IS OVER SOUTHEAST LOWER MICHIGAN...A ZONAL FLOW PERSIST FROM MANITOBA EASTWARD...AND A TROUGH EXTENDS FROM ALBERTA SOUTHWEST INTO CALIFORNIA. A WEAK SHORTWAVE IS SWEEPING THROUGH THE FORECAST AREA IN THE ZONAL FLOW THROUGH NORTHERN ONTARIO. SURFACE ANALYSIS DEPICTS A HIGH OVER JAMES BAY...A LOW OVER CENTRAL QUEBEC WITH A STATIONARY FRONT DRAPED WEST THROUGH CENTRAL ONTARIO AND CENTRAL MANITOBA...AND A LOW OVER KSSM AREA WITH A COLD FRONT SAGGING THROUGH LOWER MICHIGAN AND WESTERN OHIO RIVER VALLEY. TO THE WEST A LOW IS DEVELOPING OVER THE NORTHERN HIGH PLAINS WITH A ACCOMPANYING FRONTAL SYSTEM OVER THE DAKOTAS. && .SHORT TERM (TONIGHT AND TUE) ISSUED AT 340 PM EDT... THE MAIN CONCERN WITH THIS FORECAST IS FOG AND PRECIPITATION POTENTIAL FOR TONIGHT AND TUESDAY. THE CLOSED LOW WILL SHIFT EAST INTO THE LOWER GREAT LAKES TONIGHT...WHILE THE TROUGH OVER THE HIGH PLAINS EDGES INTO THE WESTERN DAKOTAS. THE CLOSED LOW WILL FILL AS IT MOVES TO NEW ENGLAND ON TUESDAY. THE TROUGH OVER DAKOTAS WILL REACH THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY ON TUESDAY. A ZONAL FLOW WILL THEN SET UP ACROSS THE WEST HALF OF THE CONUS. THE LOW OVER EASTERN U.P. WILL WASH OUT AS IT TRACKS INTO EAST CENTRAL ONTARIO. THE FRONTAL SYSTEM OVER THE DAKOTAS WILL GET CAUGHT IN THE FLOW AND PUSHED INTO THE U.P. BY TUESDAY AFTERNOON. A SOUTHERLY FLOW AHEAD OF THIS SYSTEM WILL BRING WARM AIR INTO THE FORECAST AREA. THE LOCAL REGIONAL WRF MODEL SHOWING THE SURFACE RH WILL REMAIN AROUND 100 PERCENT TONIGHT ACROSS MUCH OF THE FORECAST AREA. THIS LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WILL BE TRAPPED UNDER A SURFACE BASED INVERSION. WIND WILL REMAIN LIGHT...SO CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR CONSIDERABLE FOG FORMATION ACROSS THE AREA. WILL GO WITH A DENSE FOG ADVISORY FOR TONIGHT. DRY AIR AND WARMER TEMPERATURES WILL MIGRATE INTO THE AREA ON TUESDAY BURNING OFF THE FOG. AS THE SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT SWEEPS ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS INTO THE FORECAST AREA...A THETA-E RIDGE WILL ACCOMPANY THE FRONT WILL BRING THUNDERSTORMS INTO THE WESTERN U.P. BY TUESDAY AFTERNOON. .LONG TERM (TUE NIGHT THROUGH NEXT MON)... SHORTWAVE TROUGH THAT ENTERS THE REGION ON TUE QUICKLY EXITS LATE TUE NIGHT. STRONG JET ON FRONT SIDE OF TROUGH WILL KEEP THE TROUGH MORE POSITIVELY TILTED/PROGRESSIVE AS IT CROSSES THE UPR GREAT LAKES. GFS/ECMWF/UKMET IN DECENT AGREEMENT INDICATING PCPN WILL EXIT CWA BY 12Z WED. FOLLOWED THE MAX THETA-E ADVECTION AND NOSE OF H85 JET TO SEE OUTLINE HIGHEST POPS. TRIMMED THUNDER CHANCES SOME AS GREATEST ML CAPES AND STEEPEST MID LEVEL LAPSE RATES SET UP TO THE SOUTH OF THE CWA TUE AFTN AND EVENING. OTHERWISE...GRIDS FOR THIS TIME IN EXCELLENT SHAPE. MADE NO OTHER MAJOR CHANGES WED AND THU. SW FLOW INCREASING INTO THE REGION WILL LEAD TO A WARMING TREND AND SINCE PRIMARY FRONTAL BOUNDARY FOCUSING PCPN REMAINS TO THE NORTH OF CWA...HAVE A DRY FCST THROUGH THU. AFTER THU...DIFFERENCES BEGIN TO EMERGE IN FCST DETAILS. COMFORT OF HAVING GOOD AGREEMENT BTWN THE GFS AND ECMWF IS GONE AS WE GO INTO NEXT WEEKEND. WENT ALONG WITH THE HPC IDEA AND PREFERRED THE MORE CONSISTENT ECMWF AS IT AGREES WITH CANADIAN/UKMET AND SOMEWHAT THE ENSEMBLES. GFS JUST APPEARS TOO AGGRESSIVE IN EJECTING TROUGH FM PACIFIC COAST INTO CNTRL PLAINS RIDGE. EXPERIMENTAL REFORECAST ENSEMBLE DATA (WHICH IS CORRECTED FOR LONG TERM GFS BIASES) ALSO DOES NOT AGREE WITH THE GFS RUNS. EXPECT TROUGH TO MOVE TO CNTRL PLAINS BY 00Z SUN AND SHIFT ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES THROUGH MON. DESPITE THE OVERALL PREFERENCE OF THE ECMWF...BELIEVE THAT STRONG JET ENERGY COMING OUT OF THE PLAINS INTO THE SYSTEM AND PERSISTENT STRONGER SOLUTIONS FM THE GFS COULD LEAD TO A SLIGHTLY STRONGER SOLUTION THAN ECMWF BY NEXT MON OVER THE GREAT LAKES. THEREFORE...KEPT TEMPS COOLER THAN GUIDANCE SUN-MON AND LINGERED CHANCES OF PCPN WITHIN THE CYCLONIC NW FLOW PATTERN IN WAKE OF THE DEPARTING LOW PRES TROUGH. && .AVIATION (FOR THE 06Z TAF ISSUANCE)... THE STRATUS DECK OVER THE AREA HAS HELPED TO LIMIT FOG FORMATION THIS EVENING. NEVERTHELESS...CANNOT RULE OUT LOWER STRATUS OR FOG FORMATION LATER TONIGHT WITH VSBY FALLING AOB 1SM GIVEN ABUNDANT MOISTURE EVIDENT ON 00Z KSAW TAMDAR SOUNDING IN THE SFC-900 MB LAYER. STRENGTHENING SRLY FLOW AND DEEPER MIXING TUE AHEAD OF THE NEXT TROUGH SHOULD HELP LIFT CIGS TO VFR IN THE AFTERNOON. THE BULK OF THE PCPN WITH THE NEXT SHORTWAVE TROUGH IS EXPECTED TO HOLD OFF UNTIL UNTIL AROUND 22Z AT KCMX AND 01Z AT KSAW. PCPN WITH SHOWERS AND POSSIBLY AND A FEW ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS WILL HELP LOWER CIGS/VSBYS BACK INTO THE MVFR RANGE. && .MARINE (FOR THE 4 PM LAKE SUPERIOR FCST ISSUANCE)... WINDS WILL REMAIN LIGHT THIS EVENING. RESIDUAL MOISTURE FROM THE RAINS AND A STRONG SURFACE BASE INVERSION WILL GENERATE SOME FOG OVER LAKE SUPERIOR TONIGHT. AS WARMER TEMPERATURES AND A LITTLE DRIER AIR MOVES INTO THE AREA AHEAD OF THE NEXT SYSTEM THE FOG WILL GRADUALLY DIMINISH. AN ACTIVE LOW PRES TROUGH WILL RACE EAST AND CROSS LAKE SUPERIOR TUE NIGHT. SOUTHERLY WINDS WILL AGAIN BE PUSHED IN ADVANCE OF THIS TROUGH PRODUCING 25 TO 30 KT WINDS OVER THE LAKE SUPERIOR. WINDS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST PERIOD SHOULD GENERALLY BE IN THE 10 TO 20KT RANGE WITH AN OCCASIONAL PERIOD OF 15 TO 25KT. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... DENSE FOG ADVY UNTIL 11 AM EDT TODAY MIZ004>007-010>014-084-085. && $$ UPDATE...JLB SYNOPSIS/SHORT TERM...DLG LONG TERM...JLA MARINE...DLG AVIATION...JLB

SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
400 AM PDT THU OCT 4 2007 .SHORT TERM (TODAY-SUN)...SATELLITE PICTURES SHOW MARINE LAYER DEVELOPING NICELY ALONG THE IMMEDIATE COAST BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OF PT. CONCEPTION. ACARS THIS MORNING INDICATES A DEPTH AROUND 500 FT WITH DENSE FOG REPORTED AT KLGB. EXPECT MARINE LAYER TO FILL IN ALL COASTAL ZONES BY SUNRISE WITH PATCHY DENSE 1/4 MILE FOG IN A FEW PLACES BUT NOT WIDESPREAD ENOUGH FOR ADVISORY. TYPICAL CLEARING EXPECTED BY MIDDAY IN COASTAL AREAS WITH PLENTY OF SUNSHINE CWA-WIDE. LOWERING HEIGHTS AND THICKNESSES ALONG WITH ONSHORE GRADIENTS SHOULD RESULT IN COOLING ALL AREAS. BIG WEATHER STORY FOR THE SHORT TERM WILL BE BIG COLD UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM NOW IN THE PAC NW WHICH IS FORECAST TO DROP SOUTHWARD AND INLAND TO A POSITION OVER CENTRAL NEVADA BY 48 HOURS. THE RESULT WILL BE CONDITIONS MORE TYPICAL OF NOVEMBER THAN EARLY OCTOBER. THE AFFECTS ON OUR CWA WILL FIRST BE TO INCREASE THE DEPTH AND EXTENT OF THE MARINE LAYER TONIGHT AND FRIDAY REACHING THE COASTAL SLOPES WITH DRIZZLE OR LIGHT RAIN POSSIBLE TONIGHT AND FRIDAY MORNING MOST AREAS SOUTH OF PT. CONCEPTION. THE OTHER IMMEDIATE EFFECT WILL BE AN INCREASE IN SURFACE WINDS...FIRST ALONG THE CENTRAL COAST...THEN THE MOUNTAINS...ESPECIALLY THE SANTA YNEZ RANGE TONIGHT THEN ACROSS THE REST OF OUR TRANSVERSE RANGES FRIDAY. GUSTS TO 35-45 MPH ARE NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION FOR THE CENTRAL COAST...THE MOUNTAINS...AND THE ANTELOPE VALLEY. CLOUDS...DRIZZLE... AND LOWERING THICKNESSES SHOULD MAKE FOR A COOL DAY FRIDAY WITH ALL READINGS WELL BELOW NORMAL. CLOUDS WILL LIKELY LINGER FRIDAY ALONG THE NORTH SLOPES NEAR THE GRAPEVINE AND THROUGHOUT INTERIOR SAN LUIS OBISPO AND SANTA BARBARA COUNTIES AS NORTHERLY FLOW DEVELOPS THERE. FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY BEGINS A TRANSITION TO NORTHEAST/OFFSHORE FLOW IN ALL AREAS AS THE COLD AIRMASS ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPPER LOW SETTLES OVER THE GREAT BASIN. A WEAK TO MODERATE OFFSHORE WIND EVENT IS EXPECTED BEGINNING FRIDAY NIGHT AND CONTINUING IN VARYING DEGREES THROUGH SUNDAY. AT THIS TIME...NOT EXPECTING WINDS ANY GREATER THAN 45 MPH IN MORE FAVORED OFFSHORE WINDS LOCATIONS. CLOUDS WILL CLEAR AND TEMPERATURES SHOULD BEGIN TO WARM TO NEAR SEASONAL NORMALS. .LONG TERM (MON-WED)...UPPER RIDGE QUICKLY BUILDS OVER CA BEHIND DEPARTED TROUGH AND IN ADVANCE OF NEXT UPSTREAM TROUGH FOR LATER IN THE WEEK. ONLY MINOR TEMPERATURE CHANGES ARE EXPECTED WITH NUMBERS NEAR NORMAL. OFFSHORE WINDS DISIPATE. CLEAR SKIES WILL VERY LIKELY PERSIST INLAND WITH COASTAL CLOUDS LIKELY MAKING A RETURN BY TUESDAY AS GRADIENTS AGAIN GO ONSHORE. && .AVIATION...04/1030Z STRATUS MAKING A RETURN TO THE CSTL PLAIN THIS MORNING...BUT SHOULD STAY OUT OF THE VLYS. XPCT CIGS AND VSBYS TO BURN OFF TO VFR LEVELS BY 18Z. KLAX...MODERATE CONFIDENCE IN CIGS THIS MORNING...MOSTLY LIKELY AT IFR LEVELS...BETWEEN 12Z AND 17Z...WITH VSBYS MOSTLY LIKELY FALLING TO MVFR LEVELS. THERE IS A SLIGHT CHANCE THAT CIG AND VSBYS COULD DROP BRIEFLY TO LIFR LEVELS. KBUR...MODERATELY HIGH CONFIDENCE OF CLEAR SKIES AND VISIBILITIES. ABOVE 6 NM THIS MORNING. && .LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY (SEE LAXCWFLOX). && $$ PUBLIC...MORRIS AVIATION...BRUNO WWW.WEATHER.GOV/LOSANGELES

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SAN DIEGO CA
230 PM PDT THU OCT 4 2007 .SYNOPSIS... UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE APPROACHING FROM THE NORTHWEST WILL MOVE THROUGH LATE FRIDAY CAUSING COOLING AND LOCAL STRONG GUSTY WINDS IN THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS. A MUCH DEEPER MARINE LAYER WILL BRING MORE CLOUDS WEST OF THE MOUNTAINS WITH LIGHT RAIN POSSIBLE LATE TONIGHT AND FRIDAY. WARMER AND DRY THIS WEEKEND UNDER HIGH PRESSURE WITH WEAK TO LOCALLY MODERATE OFFSHORE FLOW AT TIMES. A LITTLE COOLER WITH A RETURN OF COASTAL LOW CLOUDS IN THE NIGHTS AND MORNINGS BY THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. && .DISCUSSION...FOR EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN CALIFORNIA INCLUDING ORANGE... SAN DIEGO...WESTERN RIVERSIDE AND SOUTHWESTERN SAN BERNARDINO COUNTIES... .SHORT TERM (TODAY-SUN)... THERE WERE AREAS OF LOW CLOUDS AND FOG IN THE COASTAL ZONES AND WRN SAN DIEGO INLAND VALLEYS THIS MORNING. FOG WAS LOCALLY DENSE. STRATUS REMAINED ALONG THE COAST THIS AFTERNOON. ACARS SOUNDINGS INDICATE AN INVERSION BASED NEAR 2300 FT WITH SW WINDS ALOFT. ONSHORE GRADIENTS AND TRENDS WITH ABOUT 7 MB SAN-IPL. A STRONG UPPER LEVEL TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE WILL MOVE THROUGH BY LATE FRI. THIS WILL BRING COOLING THROUGH FRIDAY WITH A DEEPENING MARINE LAYER. INCREASING WINDS ALOFT AND STRONGER ONSHORE GRADIENTS WILL CAUSE LOCAL STRONG GUSTY WINDS IN THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH FRIDAY AND CURRENT WIND ADVISORIES LOOK OK. THE MARINE LAYER WILL DEEPEN TO 5000-6000 FT BY FRI AND THE INVERSION WILL WEAKEN OR BE ELIMINATED BY THE COOL AIR ALOFT. THIS WILL BREAK UP THE CLOUD COVER AND RESULT IN A PARTIAL REVERSE CLEARING PATTERN BY FRI AFTERNOON. THE COMBINATION OF THE DEEP MOIST LAYER AND PASSING TROUGH WILL BRING A CHANCE OF LIGHT RAIN W OF THE MOUNTAIN RIDGE LINE LATE TONIGHT AND FRI MORNING...POSSIBLY LINGERING INTO FRI AFTERNOON. THE WINDS WILL TURN OFFSHORE FRI NIGHT AND SAT MORNING AND COULD BE MODERATELY STRONG FOR A BRIEF TIME SAT. CLEARING AND DRYING LATE FRI AND SAT AND WARMER SAT. && .LONG TERM (SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY)... SHORT WAVE RIDGING AND OFFSHORE FLOW WILL CONTINUE MOSTLY CLEAR AND WARMER WEATHER SUN AND MON. THE OFFSHORE FLOW WILL BE WEAK TO MODERATE SUN AND THEN WEAKEN BY MON. THE DRY OFFSHORE WINDS WILL INCREASE THE FIRE WEATHER HAZARD SAT AFTERNOON AND SUN AND A FIRE WEATHER WATCH MAY BE NEEDED. THE HIGH WILL WEAKEN AND ONSHORE FLOW WILL INCREASE TOWARD MID WEEK FOR A LITTLE COOLING AND RETURN OF MARINE LAYER CLOUDINESS. && .AVIATION... 042000Z...MDCRS SOUNDINGS INDICATE THE MARINE LAYER HAD DEEPENED TO AROUND 2000 FEET SINCE THIS MORNING. THE MARINE LAYER SHOULD CONTINUE TO DEEPEN TO AROUND 5000 FEET TONIGHT. STRATOCU SHOULD MOVE BACK ONTO THE COAST DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON AND INLAND DURING THE EVENING REACHING THE COASTAL SLOPES OF THE MOUNTAINS BEFORE MIDNIGHT. THE DEEPENING OF THE MARINE LAYER COULD ALSO BRING SOME LIGHT DRIZZLE OR LIGHT RAIN TO SOME OF THE AIRPORTS WEST OF THE MOUNTAINS BY MORNING. LITTLE OR NO CLEARING IS EXPECTED ON FRIDAY. HORTON .MARINE... SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR ALL COASTAL WATERS OFF SAN DIEGO COUNTY LATE TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY EVENING. INCREASING SURFACE GRADIENTS TODAY WILL BECOME QUITE STRONG TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY EVENING WITH WINDS TO 25 KT WITH GUSTS TO 30 KT. STEEP NORTHWEST WIND SWELL EXPECTED TO MOVE IN LATE TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY. && .SGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WIND ADVISORY UNTIL 7 PM PDT FRIDAY FOR THE HIGHER MOUNTAINS AND FOR THE DESERTS. SEE LAXNPWSGX. SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 1 AM TO 11 PM PDT FRIDAY FOR COASTAL WATERS. SEE LAXCWFSGX. && $$ PUBLIC...DVA AVIATION/MARINE...HORTON
SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
1050 AM PDT THU OCT 4 2007 NEW AVIATION DISCUSSION .SHORT TERM (TODAY-SUN)...SATELLITE PICTURES SHOW MARINE LAYER DEVELOPING NICELY ALONG THE IMMEDIATE COAST BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OF PT. CONCEPTION. ACARS THIS MORNING INDICATES A DEPTH AROUND 500 FT WITH DENSE FOG REPORTED AT KLGB. EXPECT MARINE LAYER TO FILL IN ALL COASTAL ZONES BY SUNRISE WITH PATCHY DENSE 1/4 MILE FOG IN A FEW PLACES BUT NOT WIDESPREAD ENOUGH FOR ADVISORY. TYPICAL CLEARING EXPECTED BY MIDDAY IN COASTAL AREAS WITH PLENTY OF SUNSHINE CWA-WIDE. LOWERING HEIGHTS AND THICKNESSES ALONG WITH ONSHORE GRADIENTS SHOULD RESULT IN COOLING ALL AREAS. BIG WEATHER STORY FOR THE SHORT TERM WILL BE BIG COLD UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM NOW IN THE PAC NW WHICH IS FORECAST TO DROP SOUTHWARD AND INLAND TO A POSITION OVER CENTRAL NEVADA BY 48 HOURS. THE RESULT WILL BE CONDITIONS MORE TYPICAL OF NOVEMBER THAN EARLY OCTOBER. THE AFFECTS ON OUR CWA WILL FIRST BE TO INCREASE THE DEPTH AND EXTENT OF THE MARINE LAYER TONIGHT AND FRIDAY REACHING THE COASTAL SLOPES WITH DRIZZLE OR LIGHT RAIN POSSIBLE TONIGHT AND FRIDAY MORNING MOST AREAS SOUTH OF PT. CONCEPTION. THE OTHER IMMEDIATE EFFECT WILL BE AN INCREASE IN SURFACE WINDS...FIRST ALONG THE CENTRAL COAST...THEN THE MOUNTAINS...ESPECIALLY THE SANTA YNEZ RANGE TONIGHT THEN ACROSS THE REST OF OUR TRANSVERSE RANGES FRIDAY. GUSTS TO 35-45 MPH ARE NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION FOR THE CENTRAL COAST...THE MOUNTAINS...AND THE ANTELOPE VALLEY. CLOUDS...DRIZZLE... AND LOWERING THICKNESSES SHOULD MAKE FOR A COOL DAY FRIDAY WITH ALL READINGS WELL BELOW NORMAL. CLOUDS WILL LIKELY LINGER FRIDAY ALONG THE NORTH SLOPES NEAR THE GRAPEVINE AND THROUGHOUT INTERIOR SAN LUIS OBISPO AND SANTA BARBARA COUNTIES AS NORTHERLY FLOW DEVELOPS THERE. FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY BEGINS A TRANSITION TO NORTHEAST/OFFSHORE FLOW IN ALL AREAS AS THE COLD AIRMASS ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPPER LOW SETTLES OVER THE GREAT BASIN. A WEAK TO MODERATE OFFSHORE WIND EVENT IS EXPECTED BEGINNING FRIDAY NIGHT AND CONTINUING IN VARYING DEGREES THROUGH SUNDAY. AT THIS TIME...NOT EXPECTING WINDS ANY GREATER THAN 45 MPH IN MORE FAVORED OFFSHORE WINDS LOCATIONS. CLOUDS WILL CLEAR AND TEMPERATURES SHOULD BEGIN TO WARM TO NEAR SEASONAL NORMALS. .LONG TERM (MON-WED)...UPPER RIDGE QUICKLY BUILDS OVER CA BEHIND DEPARTED TROUGH AND IN ADVANCE OF NEXT UPSTREAM TROUGH FOR LATER IN THE WEEK. ONLY MINOR TEMPERATURE CHANGES ARE EXPECTED WITH NUMBERS NEAR NORMAL. OFFSHORE WINDS DISIPATE. CLEAR SKIES WILL VERY LIKELY PERSIST INLAND WITH COASTAL CLOUDS LIKELY MAKING A RETURN BY TUESDAY AS GRADIENTS AGAIN GO ONSHORE. && .AVIATION...04/1745Z NOT MUCH CONFIDENCE IN THE LOW CLOUD FORECAST...ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF POINT CONCEPTION. THE EXPECTED TREND OF THE LOW CLOUDS IS FOR THE CEILINGS TO STEADILY INCREASE THROUGH FRIDAY. THE CEILINGS WERE AS LOW AS 100 FEET THIS MORNING...BUT SINCE HAVE INCREASED TO 1500 FEET DUE TO THE INFLUENCE OF THE COASTAL EDDY. THIS LIFTING TREND WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE NEXT 24 HOURS. THERE IS VIRTUALLY NO CHANCE OF ANOTHER DENSE FOG EPISODE FRIDAY MORNING. NORTH OF POINT CONCEPTION...MECHANICAL MIXING DUE TO STRONGER NORTHWEST LOWER LEVEL FLOW HAS CLEARED THE LOW CLOUDS AND FOG. ONLY PATCHY LOW CLOUDS AND FOG ARE EXPECTED TO RETURN TO THE CENTRAL COAST TONIGHT. KLAX...LOW CONFIDENCE IN THE TIMING OF LOW CLOUD COVERAGE...HOWEVER GOOD CONFIDENCE IN THE TREND TOWARD HIGHER CEILINGS OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS. TYPICAL SEA BREEZE THIS AFTERNOON. KBUR...GOOD CONFIDENCE IN THE SKIES AND VISIBILITIES REMAINING CLEAR WITH TYPICAL SEA BREEZE THIS AFTERNOON...FOLLOWED BY LOW CLOUDS AND FOG RETURNING TO THE AIRFIELD TONIGHT. CEILINGS WILL RISE THROUGH THE NIGHT. && .LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY (SEE LAXCWFLOX). && $$ PUBLIC...MORRIS AVIATION...SWEET WWW.WEATHER.GOV/LOSANGELES