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MORNING BEFORE 10:00 EQUALLY DIVIDED IN THE USUAL FORM OF
CLOSING REMARKS.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE OBJECTION?
WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE SENATOR FROM PENNSYLVANIA.
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MR. SPECTER: MR. PRESIDENT, I THANK THE CHAIR. MR. PRESIDENT, I
COMPLIMENT MY DISTINGUISHED COLLEAGUE FROM TENSE TENSE FOR
OFFERING THIS AMENDMENT. I DO SUPPORT IT. I THINK IT IS A
SIGNIFICANT STEP FORWARD. AS I LISTENED TO THE SENATOR FROM
TENNESSEE SPEAK, I WAS PERSUADED, HOWEVER, THAT THE CONSEQUENCE
OR THE CONCLUSION OF HIS ELOQUENCE WAS THAT THE ENTIRE BILL FOR
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PERMANENT NORMAL TRADE RELATIONS WITH CHINA SHOULD BE DEFEATED.
I THOUGHT THAT THE SENATOR FROM TENNESSEE MADE A VERY STRONG
CASE THAT IT IS NECESSARY FOR THE UNITED STATES TO BE WARY OF
WHERE CHINA -- WHERE THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA IS HEADING.
IT IS MY HOPE -- AND I KNOW IT IS THE HOPE OF THE SENATOR FROM
TENNESSEE -- THAT WE WILL HAVE GOOD RELATIONS WITH CHINA CHINA,
THAT WE WILL HAVE A PEACEFUL WORLD. BUT, AS THE SENATOR FROM
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TENNESSEE ENUMERATED THE PROBLEMS WITH NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION
AND THE POTENTIAL DIFFICULTIES FROM THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF
CHINA CHINA, IT UNDERSCORED IN MY OWN MIND THE GRAVE CONCERNS
ABOUT MAKING A CONCESSION AT THIS STAGE TO PERMANENT NORMAL
TRADE REEPLGSS WITH CHINA INSTEAD OF ADVANCING THAT ECONOMIC
BENEFIT TO CHINA ON A YEAR-BY-YEAR BASIS SO THAT THE UNITED
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STATES WOULD RETAIN SOME LEVERAGE AS TO THE CONDUCT OF CHINA.
IT IS, I THINK, IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE KIND OF AN ANNUAL REPORT,
WHICH THE SENATOR FROM TENNESSEE TALKS ABOUT. AND I THINK IT IS
A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE IT AS TO RUSSIA AND NORTH KOREA AS WELL AS
TO CHINA. BUT THE REALITY IS, AS DOCUMENTED SUBSTANTIALLY BY
THE SENATOR FROM TENNESSEE, THERE ARE REAL POTENTIAL PROBLEMS
ON THE HORIZON. AT THE OUTSET, MR. PRESIDENT, I WISH TO MAKE IT
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CLEAR THAT I SUPPORT THE CONCEPT OF FREE TRADE. I BELIEVE THAT
HISTORY IS ON THE SIDE OF FREE TRADE, AND I VOTED IN FAVOR OF
THE NORTH ATLANTIC -- OF THE NORTH AMERICAN FREE TRADE
AGREEMENT IN THE FACE OF VERY CONSIDERABLE OPPOSITION TO -- OF
MY CONSTITUENCY?
PENNSYLVANIA AND, SIMILARLY, VOTED FOR FREE TRADE WITH THE
CARIBBEAN COUNTRIES AND FOR FREE TRADE WITH AFRICA. AND
ALTHOUGH NOT WITHOUT SOME QUALMS, I HAVE SUPPORTED MOST
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FAVORED-NATIONED STATUS FOR CHINA, AND THAT WAS A HOT CONCERN
ON THIS FLOOR AND IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FOR SOMETIME
BECAUSE OF CHINA'S VIOLATIONS OF HUMAN RIGHTS. BUT IT WAS MY
JUDGMENT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE GIVEN CHINA MOST FAVORED NATION
STATUS TO TRY TO BUILD THEIR COUNTRY IN THE HOPE THAT IT WOULD
MOVE TOWARD DEMOCRACY, IT WOULD MOVE TOWARD A GREATER
RECOGNITION OF HUMAN RIGHTS. BUT IN ONE FELL SWOOP TO GRANT
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PERMANENT NORMAL TRADE RELATIONS WITH CHINA SEEMS TO ME TO BE A
MISTAKE. I SPOKE ON THIS SUBJECT AT SOME LENGTH BACK ON MAY 17
OF THIS YEAR -- AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHERS THAT WISH TO
SPEAK, SO I WILL NOT REPEAT WHAT I SAID AT THAT TIME BUT WOULD
INCORPORATE MY COMMENTS AT THAT TIME BY REFERENCE -- ON THE
ISSUE OF PROLIFERATION, THERE IS VERY, VERY SUBSTANTIAL
EVIDENCE THAT THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA IS HARMING THE
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INTERESTS OF WORLD PEACE. WHEN THEY SOLD THE M-11 MISSILES TO
PAKISTAN, THAT PUT PAKISTAN IN A POSITION TO MOVE FORWARD ON A
POTENTIAL NUCLEAR CONFRONTATION WITH INDIA, PUTTING THAT AREA
OF THE WORLD AT RISK. WHEN THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA HAS
ASSISTED NORTH KOREA'S MISSILE PROGRAM IN PROVIDING SPECIAL
SELL MOM TERS, THERE AGAIN THERE IS A COUNTRY, A ROGUE COUNTRY,
WHERE THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA THREATENS THE INTERESTS OF
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WORLD PEACE. AND WHEN THEY HAVE PROVIDED ASSISTANCE TO LIBYA'S
LONG-RANGE MISSILE PROGRAM BY ASSISTING IN THE BUILDING OF A
HYPERSONIC WIND TUNNEL, THERE AGAIN THEY ASSIST A ROGUE NATION
WHICH REALLY HAS THE POTENTIAL OF THREATENING WORLD PEACE.
THERE HAS BEEN A VERY ELABORATE CHART PREPARED BY THE
DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM NORTH CAROLINA, SENATOR HELMS, WHICH
IS ON EVERY DESK IN THE ROOM. I KNOW SENATOR HELMS CAME TO THE
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FLOOR A FEW MOMENTS AGO AND WILL, NO DOUBT, SPEAK ABOUT IT. BUT
OF PARTICULAR -- BUT IT IN PARTICULAR RAISE THE PROBLEM WE FACE
ON BY THE CHINA YEAR, WHICH RAISES THE QUESTION, WHY GIVE AWAY
OUR BARGAINING POWER?
THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA THAT NATION IS VITALLY
INTERESTED IN NORMAL TRADE RELATIONS WITH THE UNITED STATES.
WHY NOT GRANT IT TO THEM THIS YEAR BUT RESERVE JUDGMENT NEXT
YEAR TO WHAT HAPPENS?
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THE RECORD OF THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA ON HUMAN RIGHTS IS
DREADFUL. TIANANMEN SQUARE IS BUT THE MASSACRES -- THE
MASSACRES AT TIANANMEN SQUARE CONSTITUTE ONLY ONE ISSUE IN A
LONG LINE OF FLAGRANT VIOLATIONS OF HUMAN RIGHTS. THESE ARE
DETAILED IN A STATEMENT WHICH IS A PART OF THE RECORD ON MY
SPEECH FROM MAY 17, SO I SHALL NOT DETAIL THEM AGAIN EXCEPT TO
REFER TO THE CASE OF THE DICKENSON COLLEGE LIBRARYIAN, A
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CONSTITUENT OF MINE FROM PENNSYLVANIA. MR. SONG WENT TO CHINA
IN AUGUST OF 1999 TO STUDY THE CULTURAL REVOLUTION AND WHILE IN
CHINA, HE WAS UNCEREMONY YAUSLY ARRESTED WITHOUT KAURX WITHOUT
ANY JUFIKLS AND KEPT IN JAIL FOR MONTHS. WHEN I FOUND OUT ABOUT
THE CASE AND HAD CONSULTED WITH MR. SONG'S FAMILY AND WITH DICK
IN INSON COLLEGE, I SPONSORED A RESOLUTION WHICH WAS
COSPONSORED BY MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES, AND SPOKE ON THE FLOOR OF
THE SENATE SAYING THAT IF THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA WANTED
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TO BE ACCORDED A SEAT WITH THE NATIONS. WORLD ON MATTERS LIKE
TRADE OR ON MATTERS GENERALLY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A DECENT
LEGAL SYSTEM; THEY WOULD HAVE TO NOT ARREST PEOPLE WITHOUT ANY
CAUSE; AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER WHEN I SOUGHT A MEETING WITH THE
CHINESE AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED STATES STATES, THE MORNING OF
OUR MEETING, I HEARD A RUMOR THAT MR. SONG WAS GOING TO BE
RELEASED AND IN LATE JANUARY HE WAS IN FACT RELEASED. I HAD A
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VERY INTERESTING DISCUSSION WITH THE P.R.C. AMBASSADOR TO THE
UNITED STATES STATES. HE ADMONISHED ME ABOUT MEDDLING IN
INTERNAL P.R.C. AFFAIRS, AND I HAD A FEW RESPONSES ABOUT THE
P.R.C. RECORD ON HUMAN RIGHTS, ESPECIALLY AS THEY RELATED TO
THE DETENTION OF MY CONSTITUENT FOR MANY MONTHS WITHOUT ANY
JUSTIFICATION. AND THEN I SAID THAT I PERSONALLY WAS CONCERNED
ABOUT HAVING GOOD RELATIONS BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND THE
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PEEMS REPUBLIC OF CHINA, A NATION OF 1.2 BILLION PEOPLE. AND
THE P.R.C. AMBASSADOR QUICKLY CORRECTED ME. IT'S NOT 1.2
BILLION PEOPLE, HE SAID. IT'S 1.25 BILLION PEOPLE. SO THAT
THAT'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THE P.R.C.'S RECOGNITION P.R.C.'S ONLY
POWER, AND THEY ARE EMERGING AS THE SECOND MAJOR SUPERPOWER IN
THE WORLD. AND THAT'S FINE SO LONG AS THEY COMPLY WITH THE
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NORMS OF A CIVILIZED WORLD. AND THAT REQUIRES NON
NONPROLIFERATION AND THAT REQUIRES RESPECT FOR HUMAN RIGHTS.
NOW WE HAVE TWO OTHER MATTERS WHICH HAVE COME INTO THE
FORERECENTLY, BOTH ISSUES WHERE THE SENATOR FROM TENNESSEE AND
I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED COLLABORATIVELY. ONE IS ON THE ISSUE OF
THE EFFORTS BY THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA TO INFLUENCE
UNITED STATES ELECTIONS, AND THE SECOND IS THE EFFORT OF THE
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PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA ON ESPIONAGE. AND CHINA HAS
PORTRAYED A VERY VERY, VERY AGGRESSIVE POSTURE, IN MY JUDGMENT.
CHINA HAS MOVED AHEAD WITH MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE
CONTRIBUTIONS IN THE POLITICAL ARENA IN FLAT VIOLATION OF
UNITED STATES LAW AND THERE ARE CASES NOW DOCUMENTED OF THE
AGGRESSIVE EFFORTS OF THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA ON
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ESPIONAGE. THE JUDICIARY SUBCOMMITTEE WHICH I CHAIR ON
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OVERSIGHT HAS PREPARED A VERY LENGTHY
REPORT ON DR. PETER HUN YI LEE. DR. LEE ON OCTOBER 7 AND 8 OF
1997 CONFESSED TO THE F.B.I. THAT HE HAD PROVIDED CLASSIFIED
NUCLEAR WEAPONS DESIGN AND TESTING INFORMATION TO SCIENTISTS OF
THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA ON TWO OCCASIONS IN 1985 AND HAD
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GIVEN CLASSIFIED ANTISUBMARINE WARFARE INFORMATION TO THE
CHINESE IN MAY OF 1997. NOW, IT IS TRUE THAT ESPIONAGE IS NOT
LIMITED TO THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA, BUT WHEN THEY
RECRUIT A SCIENTIST IN THE UNITED STATES AND ACQUIRE
INFORMATION ABOUT OUR CLASSIFIED NUCLEAR WEAPONS DESIGN AND
INFORMATION ON OUR ANTISUBMARINE WARFARE PROCEDURES, THAT IS A
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MATTER OF CONSIDERABLE IMPORTANCE. THERE IS ANOTHER MAJOR CASE
WHICH IS VERY MUCH IN THE FOREFRONT TODAY, HAS BEEN FOR SOME
CONSIDERABLE PERIOD OF TIME, AND THAT IS THE CASE VOFERG DR.
WEN HO LEIGH WHERE THIS MORNING'S MEDIA ACCOUNTS DISCLOSE THAT
LATER TODAY, WITHIN A FEW HOURS, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HAS
AGREED TO A PLEA NEGOTIATION FOR ONE COUNT OF A 59-COUNT
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INDICTMENT CONCERNING TAKING CLASSIFIED MATERIAL AND NOT
MAINTAINING THE APPROPRIATE CLASSIFICATION. NOW, THIS IS A CASE
WHICH WAS UNDER INVESTIGATION BY THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
OVERSIGHT SUBCOMMITTEE WHICH I CHAIR, AND WE HAD LOOKED INTO IT
FROM OCTL OF LAST YEAR UNTIL-- --FROM OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR
UNTIL DECEMBER 14, WHEN THE F.B.I. ASKED THAT WE CEASE OUR
OVERSIGHT INQUIRIES BECAUSE DR. WEN HO LEE WAS BEING INDICTED.
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BUT WE HAD -- AND WE COMPLIED WITH THAT REQUEST SO THAT THERE
WOULD BE NO QUESTION AT ALL ABOUT ANY INTERFERENCE IN THE
PROSECUTION OF DR. WEN HO LEE. NOW THAT THE MATTER IS FINISHED,
WE WILL VE AHEAD VERY PROMPTLY ON THAT OVERSIGHT INVESTIGATION.
BUT THE CASE AGAINST DR. WEN HO LEE IS AN EXTRAORDINARY ONE
WHICH RAISED VERY, VERY SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER DR. WEN
HO LEE PROVIDED TO THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA HIGHLY
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CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. THE INVESTIGATION AS TO DR. LEE
PROCEEDED FROM 1982, WAS ACCELERATED IN 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996,
AND 1997, AND THEN THERE WAS A REQUEST BY THE F.B.I., WHICH WAS
A PERSONAL REQUEST FROM F.B.I. DIRECTOR LOUIS FREEH,
TRANSMITTED BY A RANK ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, JOHN LOUIS, WHO WENT
PERSONALLY TO ATTORNEY GENERAL RENO. ATTORNEY GENERAL RENO
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ASSIGNED THE MATTER TO A MAN NAMED DAVID SICALI, WHO HAD NEVER
HAD ANY EXPERIENCE WITH AN APPLICATION FOR A WARRANT UNDER THE
FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SURVEILLANCE ACT. AND IN THE CONTEXT WHICH
WAS REASONABLY CLEAR THAT THE WARRANT SHOULD HAVE BEEN GRANTED,
ATTORNEY GENERAL RENO REJECTED THAT APPLICATION. THEN
INEXEXPLICABLY FROM AUGUST OF 1998 UNTIL DECEMBER OF 1999, SOME
14 MONTHS, THE F.B.I. DID NOT ACT TO FURTHER INVESTIGATE DR.
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WEN HO LEE. THEN WHEN THE COX COMMISSION WAS ABOUT TO PUBLISH A
REPORT IN JANUARY OF 1999, SUDDENLY THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
AND THE F.B.I. SPRANG INTO ACTION. BUT DID NOT TAKE ANY STEPS
TO TERMINATE DR. LEE UNTIL MARCH -- AND NO STEPS TO GET A
SEARCH WARRANT UNTIL APRIL. NOW, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT DR. LEE
-- DR. WEN HO LEE IS ENTITLED TO THE PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE
AS TO PASSING ANY MATTERS TO THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA
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WHICH WAS THE ESSENCE OF THE F.B.I. INVESTIGATION. BUT EQUALLY,
THERE IS NO DOUBT
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