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INSTEAD OF $300,000. MR. PRESIDENT, I THANK THE CHAIR AND YIELD
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THE FLOOR. A SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA.
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MR. WELLSTONE: MR. PRESIDENT, LET ME THANK YOU MY COLLEAGUES. I
THANK SENATOR LEVIN FOR HIS REMARKS. I THANK HIM FOR HIS JUST
UNBELIEVABLE DEDICATION TO TRYING TO PUSH THROUGH REFORM
LEGISLATION. I MEAN HE HAS BEEN AT THIS A LONG TIME. THIS IS
THE TIME TO DO IT. I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE. WE HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY -- WE HAVE A BILL THAT WAS PASSED ON THE HOUSE
SIDE, A BIPARTISAN MEASURE, A PUBLIC CALLING FOR THE CHANGE, I
AGREE NOW, SENATOR LEVIN NOW IS THE TIME TO PASS THE LEGISLATE
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ACTION. I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE SENATOR MCCAIN FROM
ARIZONA AND SENATOR FEINGOLD, A DEMOCRAT FROM WISCONSIN. I HAVE
A SPECIAL KIND OF A FEGS TOWARD BOTH MY COLLEAGUES. I THINK
SENATOR MCCAIN IS PRINCIPLED. HE SPEAKS OUT FOR WHAT HE
BELIEVES IN. HE IS A COURAGEOUS LEGISLATOR, AND I THINK SENATOR
FEINGOLD HAS EMERGED HERE IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE AS BEING
A LEADING REFORMER. HE IS NAY EIGHBOR, I AM A SENATOR FROM
MINNESOTA, A SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT
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PEOPLE FROM MINNESOTA WHO FOLLOW RUSS FEINGOLD'S WORK HAVE A
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RESPECT FOR HIM. I AM HAND ORDER TO BE AN
-- HONORED TO BE AN ORIGINAL COSPONSOR OF THIS LEGISLATION. I
DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE TO GET STARTED. IT IS INTERESTING,
BARRY GOLDWATER, SENATOR GOLD WATER WHO TELLS IT LIKE IT IS, I
WENT TO SENATOR GOLDWATER SERVICE IN ARIZONA NOT BECAUSE I WAS
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NECESSARILY IN AGREEMENT WITH HIM ON ALL THE ISSUES -- AS A
MATTER OF FACT SOME OF MY GOOD FRIENDS, REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES
WHO WERE ON THE PLANE WITH ME KEPT GIVING ME BARRY GOLDWATER'S
BOOK, "CONSCIENCE OF A CONSERVATIVE," TELLING ME IF I READ THAT
BOOK WHEN 15 WORK GOING DOWN THE RIGHT PATH. I TOLD THEM I DID
READ THE BOOK WHEN I WAS 15, I JUST REACHED DIFFERENT
CONCLUSIONS. SENATOR GOLDWATER SAID A DECADE AGO "THE FACT THAT
LIBERTY DEPENDED ON HONEST ELECTIONS WAS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE
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TO THE FOUNDERS OF OUR NATION THAT WROTE THE CONSTITUTION. THEN
KNEW CORRUPTION DESTROYED CONSTITUTIONAL LIBERTY. AN
INDEPENDENT NATURE FREE FROM ANY INFLUENCE OTHER THAN THAT OF
THE PEOPLE. APPLYING THESE PRINCIPLES TO MODERN TIMES WE CAN
MAKE THE
FOLLOWING CONCLUSIONS: TO BE SUCCESSFUL, REPRESENTATIVE
GOVERNMENT ASSUMES ELECTIONS WILL BE CONTROLLED BY THE
CITIZENRY AT LARGE, NOT BY THOSE WHO GIVE THE MOST MONEY.
ELECTIONS -- ELECT TORS MUST BELIEVE THEIR VOTE COUNTS. ELECTED
OFFICIALS MUST OWE THEIR ALLEGIANCE TO THE PEOPLE, NOT TO THEIR
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OWN WEALTH OR TO THE WEALTH OF THE INTEREST GROUPS WHO SPEAK
ONLY FOR THE SELFISH PHARYNX OF THE WHOLE COMMUNITY." YOU KNOW,
LET ME JUST START OUT WITH SOME EXAMPLES. I WAS INVOLVED IN
DEBATE ON THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE LAST WEEK WHICH WAS
EMOTIONAL. I MEAN IT WAS KIND OF A HEART-RENDING. YOU HAD A
SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO WERE SITTING ACTUALLY WHERE SOME OF
OUR CITIZENS ARE SITTING TODAY, AND THEY WERE FROM SIERRA
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BLANCA. THEY WERE DISPROPORTIONATELY POOR, HISPANIC, AND WHAT
THEY WERESAYING IS HOW COME WHEN IT COMES TO THE QUESTION OF
WHERE A NUCLEAR WASTE DUMP SITE GOES, IT IS PUT IN OUR
COMMUNITY?
I MEAN, HOW COME IT ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE THE CASE THAT WHEN WE
FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THESE INCINERATORS, OR WHERE TO PUT
POWER LINES, OR WHERE TO PUT WASTE, IT ALMOST ALWAYS GOES TO
COMMUNITIES WHERE PEOPLE DON'T MAKE THE BIG CONTRIBUTIONS, THEY
ARE NOT THE HEAVY HITTERS, DISPROPORTIONATELY POOR,
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DISPROPORTIONATELY COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, THUS THE QUESTION OF
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE. WELL I WOULD SAY THAT IS THIS WAS A
DEBATE WHERE YOU HAD THE INTEREST OF BIG MONEY, BIG
CONTRIBUTOR, CORPORATE UTILITIES VERSUS LOW-INCOME MINORITY
COMMUNITIES. AND I WOULD ARGUE -- BY THE WAY, DIFFERENT
COLLEAGUES VOTED FOR DIFFERENT REASONS AND SOME VOTED BECAUSE
IT WASN'T THEIR STATE AND THEY FELT A CERTAIN KIND OF -- IF YOU
WILL, DEFERENCE TO SENATORS FROM OTHER STATES. I UNDERSTAND
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THAT. BUT MY POINT IS DIFFERENT. I WILL TELL YOU THAT ALL TOO
OFTEN THE CONCLUSION IS SORT OF PREDETERMINED, AND THOSE WHO
HAVE THE CLOUT AND THOSE WHO MAKE THE BIG CONTRIBUTIONS ARE THE
ONES THAT HAVE THE INFLUENCE AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE
LISTEN TO. ALL TOO OFTEN A WHOLE LOT OF CITIZENS, IN THIS CASE
THE PEOPLE OF SIERRA BLANCA, THEY ARE NOT LISTENED TO AT ALL.
THIS IS WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT. BIG INTEREST PREVAILED, SPECIAL
INTEREST PREVAILED, FOR THE SAME REASON THAT THE PEOPLE IN
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SIERRA BLANCA CAN'T GET A FAIR SHAKE IN TEXAS -- THAT IS TO SAY
THEY DON'T GIVE THE BIG CONTRIBUTIONS, THEY DON'T HAVE THE
POLITICAL CLOUT -- IS THE SAME REASON THEY COULDN'T GET A FAIR
SHAKE HERE IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE. NOW IN ABOUT 20
MINUTES, 25 MINUTES, I AM GOING TO BE IN A MEETING WITH SOME
COLLEAGUES FROM THE MIDWEST. WE'VE GOT AN ECONOMIC CONVULSION
IN AGRI CULTURE. I THINK -- LET ME JUST LET ME WEAR MY
POLITICAL SCIENTIST HAT. I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WHEN PEOPLE LOOK
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BACK 1998, 1999 GOING INTO THE SECTION CENTURY, AND RAISE
QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR ECONOMY, BECAUSE I FEAR THAT WE ARE GOING
TO BE FACED WITH SOME VERY DIFFICULT TIMES DRKS THEY ARE GOING
TO LOOK AT THIS CRISIS IN AGRICULTURE AS THE PRECURSOR TO THIS.
NOW WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS YOU HAVE RECORD LOW PRICES. PEOPLE WHO
ARE WATCHING THE DEBATE, NOT EVERYBODY THAT BAUFNS THE DEBATE
COMES FROM A STATE WHERE AGRICULTURE IS AS IMPORTANT AS THE
STATE I COME FROM, THE STATE OF MINNESOTA -- MINNESOTA, BUT LET
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ME SAY TO PEOPLE, IF YOU ARE RA CORN GROWER AND THE GET $1.40
FOR A BUSHEL OF CORN, YOU CAN BE THE BEST MANAGER IN THE WORLD,
WORK FROM 5 IN THE MORNING UNTIL MIDNIGHT, YOU'LL NEVER MAKE
IT. RECORD LOW PRICES. PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO GIVE UP. THEY ARE
JUST LEAVING. THE FARM IS NOT ONLY WHERE THEY WORK IT IS WHERE
THEY LIVE. NOW, IT IS INTERESTING THAT WE HAD A FARM BILL, THE
1996 FARM BILL, IT WAS CALLED THE FREEDOM TO FARM BILL, I
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CALLED IT THE "FREEDOM TO FAIL BILL," AND IT WAS A GREAT BILL,
I AM NOT SAYING ANYTHING ON THE FLOOR I HAVEN'T SAID A MILLION
TIMES OVER IN THE LAST YEAR, IT WAS A GREAT BILL FOR THE GRAIN
COMPANIES -- A GREAT BILL FOR THE GRAIN COMPANIES -- BECAUSE
WHAT THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION DID IS IT SAID TO FAMILY FARMERS
WE ARE NO LONGER GOING TO GIVE YOU A LOAN RATE. WE ARE GOING TO
CAP THE LOAN RATE AT SUCH A LOW-LEVEL THAT YOU WON'T HAVE THE
BARGAINING POWER. IT SOUND TECH KNOW CRA PARTICULAR BUT TO MAKE
A LONG STORY SHORT, YOU HAVE FAMILY FARMERS FACING A MONOPOLY
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WHEN IT COMES TO WHO DO THEY SELL AIN TO. IF THEY DON'T HAVE A
GUARANTEE THAT BRINGS THE PRICE TO A CERTAIN LEVEL, THEY HAVE
NO BARGAINING POWER IN THE MARKETPLACE. NOT SURPRISINGLY PRICES
HAVE PLUMMETED, THERE IS NO SAFETY NET WHATSOEVER, AND NOW WE
SEE IN OUR PART OF THE COUNTRY, IN THMIDWEST, A FAMILY FARM
STRUCTURE OF AGRICULTURE WHICH IS IN REAL PERIL. WE SEE AN
ECONOMIC CONVULSION. WE SEE FAMILY FARMERS BEING DRIVEN OFF THE
LAND. WE ARE GOING TO BE COMING TO THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE --
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YOU BETTER BELIEVE WE ARE GOING TO COME TO THE FLOOR OF THE
SENATE -- WE ARE GOING TO STAY TO OUR COLLEAGUES, LOOK YOU
COULD HAVE BEEN FOR THE FREEDOM TO FAIL BILL OR NOT, BUT THERE
HAS TO BE A MODIFICATION. WE HAVE TO TAKE THE CAP OFF THE LOAN
RATE AND GET THE PRICES UP FOR FAMILY FARMERS. NOW I WOULD
ARGUE IN 1996, AND I HOPE THIS WON'T BE THE DEBATE AGAIN, WHAT
IS GOING ON HERE IS A FARM BILL THAT WAS WRITTEN BY AND FOR BIG
CORPORATE AGRIBUSINESS INTERESTS. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. IT IS A
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GREAT BILL FOR THE GRAIN COMPANIES, BUT IT IS A DISASTER FOR
FAMILY FARMERS. SO WE ARE GOING TO REVISIT THIS DEBATE, AND
ONCE AGAIN IS IT GOING TO BE THE GRAIN COMPANIES AND BIG FOOD
PROCESSORS AND BIG CHEMICAL COMPANIES AND THE TRANSPORTATION
COMPANIES?
OR IS IT GOING TO BE THE FAMILY FARMERS?
WELL I HOPE IT WILL BE THE FAMILY FARMERS. I HOPE OUR APPEAL TO
FAIRNESS AND JUSTICE WILL WORK ON THE FLOOR OF THE UNITED
STATES SENATE. BUT I WILL TELL YOU, ALL TOO OFTEN AS I LOOK AT
THESE DIFFERENT ISSUES AND DIFFERENT DEBATES, IT IS NO WONDER
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AS SENATOR LEVIN SAID THAT PEOPLE ARE SO DISAPPOINTED AND
DISILLUSIONED WITH BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES. IT'S NO WONDER
PEOPLE DON'T REGISTER AND DON'T VOTE. BECAUSE THEY HAVE REACHED
THE CONCLUSION THAT IF YOU PAY YOU PLAY AND IF YOU DON'T PAY
YOU DON'T PLAY AND THEY HAVE REACHED THE CONCLUSION THAT THIS
POLITICAL PROCESS IS NOT THERE POLITICAL PROCESS. I MEAN MY
GOD, WHAT HAPPENS IN A REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY WHEN PEOPLE
REACH THE CONCLUSION THAT THEY ARE NOT STAKEHOLDERS IN THE
SYSTEM. THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THEMSELVES,
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THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR COMMUNITIES, THEIR CONCERNS ARE OF
LITTLE CONCERN IN THE CORRIDORS OF POWER IN AURG WASHINGTON. I
MEAN THIS IS -- IN WASHINGTON. THIS IS REALLY DANGEROUS. WHAT'S
AT STEAK IS NOTHING REST THAN OUR WONDERFUL 222 YEAR EXPERIMENT
IN REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY. THAT'S WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT. NOW
LET ME GIVE SOME OTHER EXAMPLES. WE WENT THROUGH A DEBATE ABOUT
WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO PROVIDE OUR
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CHILDREN WITH SOME PROTECTION FROM BEING ADDICTED TO TOBACCO.
GUESS WHAT HAPPENED?
TOBACCO COMPANIES, HUGE CNT TORS, INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO
SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES, BIG SOFT MONEY, HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE PARTY. AND GUESS
WHAT HAPPENED?
AS A SPECIAL FAVOR TO THOSE BIG TOBACCO INTERESTS, WE DIDN'T
EVEN PROVIDE OUR CHILDREN WITH SENSIBLE PROTECTION. I FEAR AS A
SENSIBLE -- AS A SPECIAL FAVOR TO THE BIG INSURANCE COMPANIES,
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WE ARE FOUGHT GOING TO EVENTUALLY PROVIDE PATIENTS WITH THE
KIND OF PROTECTION THAT THEY NEED. I FEAR THAT AS A SPECIAL
FAVOR TO THOSE BOTTOM DWELL LETTERS OF COMMERCE WHO DON'T WANT
TO RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE, WE ARE NOT EVEN GOING TO RAISE THE
MINIMUM WAGE FOR HARD-PRESSED WORKING PEOPLE. AND WHAT I SEE
OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS A POLITICAL PROCESS HIJACKED BY
AND DOMINATED BY BIG MONEY.
AND I WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING: THAT IS THE OPPOSITE OF THE VERY
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IDEA OF REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY. BECAUSE THE IDEA OF
REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY IS THAT EACH PERSON COUNTS AS ONE AND
NO MORE THAN ONE. BUT WHAT WE HAVE INSTEAD IS SOMETHING QUITE
DIFFERENT. LET'S THINK FOR A MOMENT ABOUT WHAT'S ON THE TABLE
AND WHAT ISN'T ON THE TABLE. I THINK THIS MIX OF MONEY AND
POLITICS, THIS IS THE ETHICAL ISSUE OF OUR TIME. WE ARE NOT
TALKING ABOUT CORRUPTION AS IN THE WRONGDOING OF INDIVIDUAL
OFFICE HOLDERS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SYSTEMIC CORRUPTION. AND
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WHAT SYSTEMIC CORRUPTION IS ALL ABOUT IS WHEN TOO FEW PEOPLE
HAVE TOO MUCH WELT POWER AND SAY, AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF
PEOPLE ARE ROCKED OUT. SOME PEOPLE MARCH ON WASHINGTON EVERY
DAY, AND OTHER PEOPLE HAVE A VOICE THAT'S NEVER HEARD. MR.
PRESIDENT, LET'S JUST THINK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT'S ON THE
TABLE AND WHAT'S NOT ON THE TABLE, BECAUSE I THINK QUITE OFTEN
MONEY DETERMINES WHO RUNS FOR OFFICE, I WILL TALK ABOUT ABOUT
THAT IN A WHILE, WHO WINS, WHAT ISSUES GET PUT ON THE TABLE,
WHAT PASSES, DOESN'T PASS, YOU NAME IT. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT
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IS NOT ON THE TABLE AND MAYBE SHOULD BE ON THE TABLE. WHAT'SNOT
ON THE TABLE IS THE CONCENTRATION OF POWER IN CERTAIN KEY
SECTORS OF OUR ECONOMY WHICH POSE SUCH A THREAT TO CONSUMERS IN
AMERICA. JUST THINK FOR A MOMENT ABOUT THE CONCENTRATION OF
POWER IN THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS JDS JDS INDUSTRY. IF THERE IS
ANYTHING MORE IMPORTANT IN DEMOCRACY THAN THIS, I DON'T KNOW
WHAT IT IS. WE HAD A TELECOMMUNICATIONS BILL THAT PASSED A
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COUPLE YEARS AGO THAT I THINK LED TO MORE MONOPOLY. WHAT IS
INTERESTING IS THAT IN THE ANTE ROONEL OUTSIDE OUR CHAMBER, IT
WAS PACKED WALL TO WALL. YOU COULDN'T EVEN GET IN HERE IF YOU
TRIED TO GO THROUGH THAT ANTE ROOM. PERSONAL I COULDN'T FIND
TRUTH, BOOTH I AND JUSTICE ANYWHERE. THERE WAS A GROUP OF
PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTING A BILLION DOLLARS OVER HERE, ANOTHER
GROUP OF PEOPLE REPRESENTING MONEY OFFER THERE, YOU NAME IT.
WHAT'S NOT ON THE TABLE IS THE CONCENTRATION OF POWER IN THE
FINANCIAL SERVICES, OR CONCENTRATION OF POWER IN AGRICULTURE.
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ALL THE WAYS IN WHICH THESE CONGLOMERATES HAVE MUZZLED THEIR
WAY TO THE DINNER TABLE AND TAKEN OVER THE FOOD INDUSTRY.
WHAT'S KNOTS ON THE TABLE IS CONCENTRATION OF POWER IN THE
HEALTH SYSTEM. THE WAY A FEW INSURANCE COMPANIES OWN AND
CONTROL MOST OF THE MANAGED CARE PLANS IN THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA. MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD JUST AGAIN SAY THAT YOU KNOW,
WE ARE SORT OF MOVING TOWARD THIS NEW CENTURY. CLI. I HOPE THE
BRAVE KNEW WORLD ISN'T TWO AIRLINE COMPANIES. I COME FROM A
STATE WHERE WE NOW HAVE A STRIKE. YOU KNOW WHAT?
IN MINNESOTA WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CHOICE. HE HE WE WANT WALK
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FROM WASHINGTON TO -- WE CAN'T WALK TO WASHINGTON D.C. WHAT
WILL WE HAVE?
TWO AIRLINES?
TWO BANKS?
TWO OIL COMPANIES?
ONE SUPERMARKET?
TWO FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS?
TWO HEALTH CARE PLANS?
I MEAN, MR. PRESIDENT, IT IS INTERESTING THAT THIS ISN'T EVEN
ON THE TABLE HERE. COULD IT BE THAT THESE POWERFUL ECONOMIC
INTERESTS ARE ABLE TO PREEMPT SOME OF THE DEBATE AND SOME OF
THE DISCUSSION BY VIRTUE OF THE HUGE CONTRIBUTIONS THEY CAN
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MAKE, WITHIN THIS SOFT MONEY LOOPHOLE THAT CAN ADD UP TO
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