Forecast Discussions mentioning "ACARS", "MDCRS", "AIRCRAFT", "TAMDAR", or "AMDAR" received at FSL on 12/21/07


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SAN DIEGO CA
215 PM PST THU DEC 20 2007 .SYNOPSIS...A LOW PRESSURE TROUGH MOVING ACROSS THE WILL BRING CLOUDS AND SCATTERED SHOWERS THROUGH EARLY FRIDAY MORNING...MAINLY WEST OF THE MOUNTAINS...AND GUSTY WEST TO NORTHWEST WINDS TO THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS. THE WINDS SHIFT NORTHEAST TONIGHT...WITH GUSTY OFFSHORE WINDS IN THE MOUNTAIN PASSES THROUGH FRIDAY AFTERNOON. DRY WEATHER WITH PERIODS OF GUSTY OFFSHORE WINDS WILL PREVAIL THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. WINTER BEGINS AT 1008 PM FRIDAY. && .DISCUSSION...FOR SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA INCLUDING SAN DIEGO... ORANGE...SOUTHWEST SAN BERNARDINO AND WEST RIVERSIDE COUNTIES. .SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY... FRONT PUSHING ACROSS VENTURA COUNTY AT THIS TIME...MOVING EAST TO SOUTHEAST NEAR 30 MPH. LIGHT TO BRIEFLY MODERATE RAIN EXPECTED TO BEGIN ORANGE COUNTY/SW SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY AROUND 400 PM AND NORTHERN SAN DIEGO/WESTERN RIVERSIDE COUNTIES AROUND 600 PM. COLD CORE OF AIR MOVING ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA BETWEEN 700 PM AND 200 AM. THIS SHOULD LOWER SNOW LEVEL TO AROUND 4000 FEET AND ALSO DESTABILIZE AIR MASS FOR SLIGHT CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS WITH SMALL HAIL. HOWEVER AIR MASS RAPIDLY STABILIZES AFTER MIDNIGHT SO BY 400 AM HAVE PRECIPITATION THREAT ENDING. USED A 15 TO 1 SNOW TO WATER RATIO FOR MOUNTAINS...THIS YIELDS 1 TO 4 INCHES OF SNOW. OTHERWISE DID NOT CHANGE QPF GRIDS. DO NOT ANTICIPATE SIGNIFICANT QPF CHANGES BEING MADE IN THE 1600 PST ISSUANCE. RIDGING ON FRIDAY WITH COLD NORTH TO NORTHEAST FLOW. WIND DIRECTION SHIFTING TO NORTHEAST TO EAST FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY MORNING AS SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE CENTERED OVER GREAT BASIN SHIFTS EASTWARD IN RESPONSE TO TROUGH APPROACHING PACIFIC NORTHWEST STATES. THIS TROUGH MOVES QUICKLY INLAND AND HIGH PRESSURE REBUILDS OVER THE GREAT BASIN ON SUNDAY. END RESULT IS TEMPORARY LESSENING OF OFFSHORE FLOW SATURDAY AFTERNOON/NIGHT WITH INCREASING OFFSHORE WINDS SUNDAY AFTERNOON. .LONG TERM... A SERIES OF SHORTWAVES WILL TRACK ACROSS THE GREAT BASIN NEXT WEEK BRING PERIODS OF BLUSTERY OFFSHORE WINDS. THE GFS PROJECTS A MODERATELY STRONG...COLD OFFSHORE WIND EVENT TUESDAY MORNING...FOLLOWED BY A SLIGHTLY WEAKER WIND EVENT THURSDAY MORNING. && .AVIATION... 202000Z...MDCRS SOUNDINGS CONTINUE TO SHOW THE MARINE LAYER DEPTH AROUND 4000 FEET THIS AFTERNOON. EXPECT LITTLE CHANGE IN THE DEPTH THROUGH THIS EVENING THEN LOWERING LATE TONIGHT BEHIND A WEAK COLD FRONT THAT IS EXPECTED TO PASS THROUGH THE AREA BETWEEN 04Z AND 07Z. BROKEN TO OVERCAST LAYERS OF STRATOCU WITH BASES BETWEEN 2500 AND 3500 FEET MSL SHOULD CONTINUE THROUGH THIS EVENING. VISIBILITIES SHOULD REMAIN UNRESTRICTED EXCEPT FOR AREAS OF MVFR TO LOCAL IFR VISIBILITIES IN SHOWERS THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. SHOWERS MAY ALSO LOWER CLOUD BASES TO 1000 FEET OR LESS AT TIMES ESPECIALLY DURING FRONTAL PASSAGE. STRATOCU SHOULD BREAK UP BETWEEN MIDNIGHT AND SUNRISE AND SHOWERS SHOULD END DURING THIS PERIOD WITH MOSTLY CLEAR TO SCATTERED CONDITIONS ON FRIDAY. HORTON && .MARINE...HIGHER THAN NORMAL WEST NORTHWEST SWELL WILL MOVE INTO THE COASTAL WATERS TONIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING. THIS IS EXPECTED TO BRING HIGHER THAN NORMAL SURF TO THE BEACHES OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY WITH SOME INCREASE IN SURF ALONG THE ORANGE COUNTY BEACHES AS WELL. THE SWELL WILL SUBSIDE DURING THE EVENING ON FRIDAY. ALSO...MORNING ASTRONOMICAL HIGH TIDES OF 7 FEET OR HIGHER ARE FORECAST BEGINNING FRIDAY MORNING AND CONTINUING THROUGH CHRISTMAS DAY. THIS COULD BRING SOME MINOR TIDAL OVERFLOW TO LOW LYING BEACH AREAS DURING THE MORNING HIGH TIDES. HORTON && .FIRE WEATHER...A MORE OR LESS CONTINUOUS PERIOD OF OFFSHORE FLOW AND DRYING FRIDAY THROUGH NEXT WEDNESDAY ADVERTISED BY THE MODELS. RECENT PRECIPITATION SHOULD OFFSET THIS DRYING TREND...AT LEAST THROUGH THE WEEKEND BUT BY NEXT WEEK NOT SO CERTAIN. LATE CHRISTMAS EVE THROUGH CHRISTMAS DAY MODELS CONTINUE TO INDICATE HIGH AMPLITUDE RIDGE BUILDING ALONG WEST COAST AND A +1035 MB HIGH OVER THE GREAT BASIN. LOCAL PROGRAMS USING GFS MODEL AS INPUT CONTINUE TO SHOW A 12 HOUR PERIOD OF SUSTAINED WINDS/GUSTS AND RELATIVE HUMIDITY MEETING THRESHOLDS FOR CRITICAL FIRE WEATHER CONDITIONS ON CHRISTMAS DAY. WILL FURTHER COORDINATE WITH FWC RIVERSIDE FRIDAY MORNING. && .SGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CA...WIND ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM PST FRIDAY FOR COACHELLA VALLEY-SAN DIEGO COUNTY DESERTS. WIND ADVISORY UNTIL 2 PM PST FRIDAY FOR RIVERSIDE COUNTY MOUNTAINS-SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY MOUNTAINS-SAN DIEGO COUNTY MOUNTAINS. COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY FROM 8 PM THIS EVENING TO 2 PM PST TUESDAY FOR ORANGE COUNTY COASTAL AREAS-SAN DIEGO COUNTY COASTAL AREAS. WIND ADVISORY FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING TO 2 PM PST FRIDAY FOR SAN BERNARDINO AND RIVERSIDE COUNTY VALLEYS-THE INLAND EMPIRE- SANTA ANA MOUNTAINS AND FOOTHILLS. WIND ADVISORY UNTIL 10 PM PST THIS EVENING FOR APPLE AND LUCERNE VALLEYS. PZ...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 7 PM THIS EVENING TO 7 AM PST FRIDAY FOR WATERS FROM SAN MATEO POINT TO THE MEXICAN BORDER EXTENDING 30 TO 60 NM OUT INCLUDING SAN CLEMENTE ISLAND. && $$ PUBLIC...BALFOUR AVIATION/MARINE...HORTON NWS ON THE WEB AT WEATHER.GOV/SANDIEGO
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SAN DIEGO CA
945 AM PST THU DEC 20 2007 .SYNOPSIS...A LOW PRESSURE TROUGH WILL BRING CLOUDS AND INCREASING CHANCES FOR SHOWERS LATER TODAY AND TONIGHT...MAINLY FROM THE MOUNTAINS WESTWARD. THIS TROUGH WILL BRING GUSTY WEST WINDS TO THE HIGH DESERTS AND MOUNTAINS THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. THE WINDS SHIFT NORTHEAST TONIGHT...WITH GUSTY OFFSHORE WINDS IN THE MOUNTAIN PASSES THROUGH FRIDAY AFTERNOON. DRY WEATHER WITH PERIODS OF GUSTY OFFSHORE WINDS WILL PREVAIL THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. WINTER BEGINS AT 1008 PM FRIDAY. && .DISCUSSION...FOR SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA INCLUDING SAN DIEGO... ORANGE...SOUTHWEST SAN BERNARDINO AND WEST RIVERSIDE COUNTIES. .SHORT TERM...ONLY CHANGE TO CURRENT FORECAST IS TO INCLUDE LOWER DESERTS IN A WIND ADVISORY BEGINNING THIS AFTERNOON AND AS MENTIONED IN THE MARINE DISCUSSION BELOW...ADD MINOR TIDAL OVERFLOW TO THE COASTS. OTHERWISE THE FORECAST LOOKS ON TRACK. THE MARINE LAYER WAS DEEP ENOUGH COUPLED WITH UPSLOPE FLOW TO GENERATE AREAS OF DRIZZLE THIS MORNING. ADDITIONAL LIFTING AND MOISTURE ADVECTION THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND TROUGH ADVANCING TOWARDS THE AREA WILL GENERATE MORE WIDESPREAD LIGHT RAIN/SNOW LATE THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH TONIGHT FOR MOST OF SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA. MIGHT ADD A SLIGHT CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS TONIGHT/EARLY FRIDAY MORNING FOR WHEN THE COLD CORE COMES ACROSS. AS FOR STORM TOTAL PRECIPITATION CURRENT QPF FORECAST LOOKS GOOD AND DO NOT ANTICIPATE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES BEING MADE IN THE 1600 PST ISSUANCE. RIDGING ON FRIDAY WITH COLD NORTH TO NORTHEAST FLOW. WIND DIRECTION SHIFTING TO NORTHEAST TO EAST FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY MORNING AS SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE CENTERED OVER GREAT BASIN SHIFTS EASTWARD IN RESPONSE TO TROUGH APPROACHING PACIFIC NORTHWEST STATES. THIS TROUGH MOVES QUICKLY INLAND AND HIGH PRESSURE REBUILDS OVER THE GREAT BASIN ON SUNDAY. END RESULT IS TEMPORARY LESSENING OF OFFSHORE FLOW SATURDAY AFTERNOON/NIGHT WITH INCREASING OFFSHORE WINDS SUNDAY AFTERNOON. LONG TERM...FROM PREVIOUS DISCUSSION... A SERIES OF SHORTWAVES WILL TRACK ACROSS THE GREAT BASIN NEXT WEEK BRING PERIODS OF BLUSTERY OFFSHORE WINDS. THE GFS PROJECTS A MODERATELY STRONG...COLD OFFSHORE WIND EVENT TUESDAY MORNING...FOLLOWED BY A SLIGHTLY WEAKER WIND EVENT THURSDAY MORNING. && .AVIATION... 201545Z...BASED ON MDCRS SOUNDINGS AND MORNING TOP REPORTS...MARINE LAYER DEPTH WAS AROUND 4000 FEET THIS MORNING. EXPECT LITTLE CHANGE IN THE DEPTH THROUGH THIS EVENING THEN LOWERING LATE TONIGHT BEHIND A WEAK COLD FRONT THAT IS EXPECTED TO PASS THROUGH THE AREA BETWEEN 04Z AND 07Z. BROKEN TO OVERCAST STRATOCU WITH BASES BETWEEN 2500 AND 3000 FEET MSL SHOULD CONTINUE THROUGH THIS EVENING. VISIBILITIES SHOULD REMAIN UNRESTRICTED EXCEPT FOR AREAS OF MVFR TO LOCAL IFR VISIBILITIES IN SHOWERS THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. SHOWERS MAY ALSO LOWERING CLOUD BASES TO 1000 FEET OR LESS AT TIMES ESPECIALLY DURING FRONTAL PASSAGE. STRATOCU SHOULD BREAK UP BETWEEN MIDNIGHT AND SUNRISE AND SHOWERS SHOULD END DURING THIS PERIOD WITH MOSTLY CLEAR TO SCATTERED CONDITIONS ON FRIDAY. HORTON && .MARINE...HIGHER THAN NORMAL WEST NORTHWEST SWELL WILL MOVE INTO THE COASTAL WATERS TONIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING. THIS IS EXPECTED TO BRING HIGHER THAN NORMAL SURF TO THE BEACHES OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY WITH SOME INCREASE IN SURF ALONG THE ORANGE COUNTY BEACHES AS WELL. THE SWELL WILL SUBSIDE DURING THE EVENING ON FRIDAY. ALSO...MORNING ASTRONOMICAL HIGH TIDES OF 7 FEET OR HIGHER ARE FORECAST BEGINNING FRIDAY MORNING AND CONTINUING THROUGH CHRISTMAS DAY. THIS COULD BRING SOME MINOR TIDAL OVERFLOW TO LOW LYING BEACH AREAS DURING THE MORNING HIGH TIDES. HORTON && .FIRE WEATHER...PROLONGED PERIOD OF OFFSHORE FLOW FRIDAY THROUGH NEXT WEDNESDAY. RECENT PRECIPITATION SHOULD OFFSET THE STRONG DRYING AND WARMING TREND...AT LEAST THROUGH THE WEEKEND. GROWING CONCERN ABOUT CHRISTMAS DAY WHEN THE OFFSHORE WINDS ARE FORECAST TO STRENGTHEN AGAIN. MODELS ARE IN PHASE NOW AND BOTH THE ECMWF AND GFS MODELS HAVE SUSTAINED WINDS/GUSTS AND RELATIVE HUMIDITY MEETING THRESHOLDS FOR CRITICAL FIRE WEATHER CONDITIONS. && .SGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... CA...WIND ADVISORY UNTIL 2 PM PST FRIDAY FOR RIVERSIDE COUNTY MOUNTAINS-SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY MOUNTAINS-SAN DIEGO COUNTY MOUNTAINS. WIND ADVISORY UNTIL 10 PM PST THIS EVENING FOR APPLE AND LUCERNE VALLEYS. WIND ADVISORY FROM 2 PM THIS AFTERNOON TO 10 AM PST FRIDAY FOR COACHELLA VALLEY-SAN DIEGO COUNTY DESERTS. WIND ADVISORY FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING TO 2 PM PST FRIDAY FOR SAN BERNARDINO AND RIVERSIDE COUNTY VALLEYS-THE INLAND EMPIRE- SANTA ANA MOUNTAINS AND FOOTHILLS. COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY FROM 8 PM THIS EVENING TO 2 PM PST TUESDAY FOR ORANGE COUNTY COASTAL AREAS-SAN DIEGO COUNTY COASTAL AREAS. PZ...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 7 PM THIS EVENING TO 7 AM PST FRIDAY FOR WATERS FROM SAN MATEO POINT TO THE MEXICAN BORDER EXTENDING 30 TO 60 NM OUT INCLUDING SAN CLEMENTE ISLAND. && $$ PUBLIC/FIRE WEATHER...BALFOUR AVIATION/MARINE...HORTON NWS ON THE WEB AT WEATHER.GOV/SANDIEGO
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO IL
843 AM CST WED DEC 19 2007 .DISCUSSION... 843 AM CST GOES 3.9 MICRON IMAGERY THIS MORNING IS DOING A NICE JOB DEPICTING AN EXPANDING FOG BANK FROM FAR NORTHWEST IL SOUTHEASTWARD INTO THE KPNT AREA. KDVN SOUNDING SHOWED A VERY SHARP NOCTURNAL INVERSION IN PLACE WITH RECENT ACARS FLIGHT OUT OF RFD SHOWING A SIMILAR PROFILE...WHICH WILL LIKELY RESULT IN ONLY A VERY SLOW LIFTING OF THE FOG THIS MORNING. LIGHT NORTHWESTERLY LOW LEVEL FLOW IS ALLOWING THE FOG TO SLOWLY SPREAD EASTWARD AND VSBYS AT VARIOUS AWOS/ASOS SITES HAVE RESPONDED TANKING TO <1/2SM. GIVEN THESE TRENDS HAVE GONE AHEAD AND ISSUED A FREEZING FOG ADVISORY THROUGH LATE MORNING. IZZI && .PREV DISCUSSION... 250 AM...WEAK COLD FRONT JUST ABOUT EAST OF THE AREA EARLY THIS MORNING WITH SOME STRATOCU MOVING ACROSS NORTHERN IL. MAIN CONCERN TODAY IS HOW LONG LOW CLOUDS STICK AROUND AND HIGH TEMPS. SOUNDINGS AND TIME HEIGHT SECTIONS SUGGEST LOW CLOUDS WILL BE ON THE DECREASE BY LATE MORNING AND PROBABLY ONLY ACROSS THE NORTH THIRD/HALF OF THE CWA. SOME LARGE BREAKS CURRENTLY FORMING ACROSS WI SO TODAY MAY END UP BEING MORE PARTLY CLOUDY NORTH. AS FOR HIGHS...SOME CHILLY AIR NOT TOO FAR AWAY WITH MID TEENS ACROSS CENTRAL IA...UNDER CLEAR SKIES AND TEMPS ALREADY DROPPING INTO THE LOWER 20S ACROSS WESTERN IL. TEMPS LIKELY TO STRUGGLE BACK INTO THE LOW 30S WEST...MID 30S EAST SO PLAN TO STAY ON THE LOW SIDE OF GUIDANCE TODAY. SYSTEM FOR THURSDAY AFTERNOON/THURSDAY NIGHT MUCH WEAKER AND APPEARS TO MAINLY LIGHT WAA PRECIP AS ONE WEAK SHORTWAVE HEADS NORTH OF THE AREA AND THE STRONGER WAVE WELL SOUTH OF THE AREA. GOING FORECAST HAS A SLIGHT CHANCE OF RAIN BY AFTERNOON AND HAVE KEPT THIS ONLY IN THE WESTERN CWA AS MOST OF THE DAYLIGHT HRS APPEAR DRY. BEST CHANCE IS THURSDAY NIGHT...AND STILL LOW. UNDER CLOUDY SKIES LOWS ONLY DIP INTO THE UPPER 20S AND LOWER 30S AND A CHANCE OF FREEZING DRIZZLE ALSO SEEMS POSSIBLE. WILL ALSO ADD SOME PATCHY FOG THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY AS WARM AIR LIFTS OVER COLDER SNOWPACK. HIGHS WARM A FEW DEGREES MORE FRIDAY BUT WITH CLOUDS/DRIZZLE/FOG...WILL ONCE AGAIN STAY BELOW GUIDANCE FOR HIGHS. THEN COMES THIS WEEKEND. MODELS APPEAR TO BE GOING THROUGH SOME CHANGES IN EVOLUTION AND TRACK OF SFC LOW WHICH DEVELOPS OVER THE SOUTHERN PLAINS FRIDAY NIGHT AND LIFTS NORTHEAST TOWARD THE LAKES SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT. THE 06Z GFS TUESDAY MORNING CONTINUED TO SHOW A SHIFT TO THE EAST WITH THE TRACK OF THE LOW. THE 00Z GFS RUN THIS MORNING CONTINUES TO SHOW A SFC LOW TRACKING TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE CWA...BUT WEAKER. AT 00Z SUNDAY...THE ECMWF HAS THE SFC LOW IN ALMOST THE SAME SPOT AS THE GFS...OVER SOUTHEAST MO. THE CANADIAN ALSO HAS SHIFTED THE TRACK OF THE LOW SLIGHTLY FURTHER EAST...BUT STILL OVER THE WESTERN LAKES WITH THE UKMET THE FARTHEST WEST. WHILE A FARTHER SOUTHEAST TRACK OF THE LOW IS BY NO MEANS CERTAIN 4 DAYS OUT...IT DOES APPEAR THE GFS HAS PICKED UP ON A FURTHER SOUTHEAST TRACK WHICH THE OTHER MODELS ARE NOW TRENDING TOWARD. ALSO OF NOTE IS THE GFS ENSEMBLES WHICH SHOW A LARGE VARIATION IN TIMING BUT ARE ALL SOUTHEAST OF THE CWA WITH THE TRACK OF THE SFC LOW. SYSTEMS LIKE THESE OFTEN TEND TO TAKE LONGER TO EVOLVE...THUS WOULD EXPECT MODELS TO SLOW THIS SYSTEM DOWN WITH FUTURE RUNS. USUALLY PREFER NOT TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THIS FAR OUT BUT WILL INDICATE MORE OF A RAIN/SNOW MIX BY AFTERNOON ACROSS THE WESTERN CWA AND ALL SNOW ACROSS THE WESTERN CWA SATURDAY NIGHT AS CONFIDENCE IS INCREASING OF MORE OF A SNOW EVENT ACROSS NW IL BUT STILL TOO EARLY TO SAY FOR SURE. WILL ALSO LOWER HIGH TEMPS SUNDAY WITH A GOOD SHOT OF COLD AIR. CMS && .AVIATION... 530 AM CST FOR THE 12Z TAFS...HAVE BEEN TRACKING TRAJECTORY OF SC WRAPAROUND IN WI FOR LAST 6 HRS. OBSERVING LARGE OPENING EXPANDING EVEN FURTHER WITH RING OF SC DIVING SE THRU TERMINALS. THIS SHUD BE THRU TERMINALS EXCEPT FOR GYY AT 12Z. LARGE HOLE IN WI GETTING BIGGER WITH MOVEMENT OF CLOUD PATTERN IN WRN WI TAKING MORE OF A SWD TRACK AROUND TERMINALS. WUD LIKE TO JUST GO SCT AROUND 15 HUNDRED FOR THIS MORNING AND CLEAR REST OF DAY. WILL COVER SCT WITH A COUPLE HOURS OF TEMPO BKN IN PRE-NOON HOURS...THEN FORGET ABOUT IT AS WE MOVE INTO A WEAK ANTICYCLONIC FLOW AS WEAK RIDGING CROSSES THE MS RVR VLY. WINDS SHUD BACK FROM WNW TO W AND GO L/V THIS EVENING UNDER SAID RIDGING. WILL LEAVE IT THAT WAY OVERNIGHT WED NGT WITH WAA CI SPREADING OVER THE MIDWEST OVERNIGHT AHEAD OF NEXT RAIN PRODUCER MOVING THIS WAY. DEPENDING ON SFC TEMPS...THIS CUD BE A FREEZING RAIN PRODUCER BY THURSDAY NIGHT. RLB && .MARINE... 250 AM CST WINDS HAVE SHIFTED TO THE NW BEHIND A PASSING COLD FRONT WHICH SHUD CONTINUE AN EASTWARD SWEEP TOWARD NEW ENGLAND. WEAK HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD OVER THE LAKES TODAY...WEAKENING WINDS TONIGHT. WINDS WILL BE STRENGTHENING AGAIN THURSDAY FROM THE EAST AND SOUTHEAST. THIS FEED FROM THE SE IS IN ADVANCE OF A DEEPENING STORM SYSTEM MOVING UP FROM THE PLAINS THRU THE LOWER OH VLY BY THE WEEKEND. WINDS WILL INTENSIFY TO 25 KTS FRIDAY AND TO 30 KNOTS BY SUNDAY VEERING TO THE NORTHWEST SAT NGT WITH ANOTHER PASSING FRONTAL SYSTEM. WINDS CUD APPROACH GALE FORCE SUNDAY BUT WILL HOLD BACK ON THE HEADLINES FOR NOW. RLB && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...FREEZING FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 11 AM CST THIS MORNING FOR ILZ003- 008-010-011-019-032. IN...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$ WFO LOT
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOUISVILLE KY
1240 PM EST THU DEC 20 2007 .LATE MORNING UPDATE.... THE CONCERN FOR THIS FORECAST PERIOD WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE TIMING OF PRECIPITATION INTO THE FORECAST AREA. THE RAIN IS A LITTLE FURTHER NORTHEAST THAN MODELS WOULD SUGGEST BUT IT HAS BEEN SLOWING. THE LATEST (15Z) ACARS SOUNDING FROM SDF INDICATES A VERY DRY LOWER ATMOSPHERE WITH A CONTINUED SOUTHEAST FLOW THROUGH 800MB. THIS WILL SERVE TO KEEP THE ATMOSPHERE DRY FOR A WHILE LONGER SO WE WILL HOLD WITH THE CURRENT MODEL TRENDS OF BRINGING PRECIPITATION IN LATE IN THE DAY WITH THE BEST CHANCE FOR PRECIPITATION TONIGHT. SO WE WILL MAKE ONLY MINOR CHANGES TO THE CURRENT FORECAST. PREVIOUS DISCUSSION BELOW... SHORT TERM (TODAY AND TONIGHT)... AN UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCE WILL STRENGTHEN SLIGHTLY AS IT MOVES FROM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE SOUTHEAST UNITED STATES. IN CONJUNCTION A SURFACE LOW WILL SLIDE FROM OKLAHOMA TO ALABAMA WITH A WARM FRONT REACHING NORTHEAST INTO KENTUCKY. AN AREA OF MOISTURE REVEALED BY THUNDERSTORMS OVER SOUTHEAST TEXAS THIS MORNING WILL SWELL NORTHEASTWARD...REACHING KENTUCKY THIS AFTERNOON AND SPREADING THROUGHOUT CENTRAL KENTUCKY AND SOUTHERN INDIANA THIS EVENING BRINGING PATCHY LIGHT RAIN WITH IT. WILL INCREASE POPS QUITE A BIT OVER THE NORTH TO ACCOUNT FOR AREAL COVERAGE OF LIGHT RAIN BUT ACTUAL AMOUNT OF RAIN IN THE NORTH WILL BE SMALL...PERHAPS ONE OR TWO TENTHS OF AN INCH. POPS IN THE SOUTH WILL ONLY BE RAISED A LITTLE BIT...BUT WITH HIGHER QPF NUMBERS AROUND HALF AN INCH NEAR THE TENNESSEE BORDER. .LONG TERM (FRIDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY)... UPPER FLOW THROUGHOUT THE EXTENDED PERIOD WILL GENERALLY BE CHARACTERIZED BY A FAST WESTERLY FLOW ACROSS THE CONUS...WITH A SERIES OF TROUGHS MOVING EASTWARD FROM THE CENTRAL ROCKIES THROUGH THE MIDWEST. FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY... RAIN THURSDAY NIGHT WILL END EARLY FRIDAY AS A WEAK TROUGH ASSOCIATED WITH THE SOUTHERN JET MOVES EASTWARD ACROSS THE GULF STATES. EVEN THOUGH THE MID LEVELS WILL DRY OUT WITH THE LOSS OF FORCING...AMPLE RH WILL REMAIN BELOW 6K FEET...AND WILL WORD FRIDAY AFTERNOON AS MOSTLY CLOUDY. TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN QUITE MILD FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT...WITH HIGHS FRIDAY AND EARLY MORNING LOWS SATURDAY REMAINING AROUND 10 DEGREES ABOVE SEASONAL NORMS. A VIGOROUS STORM SYSTEM WILL ENTER THE WESTERN CONUS LATE THURSDAY AND WILL LEAD TO AN AMPLIFICATION OF A TROUGH OVER THE ROCKIES FRIDAY. THIS TROUGH WILL QUICKLY MOVE EAST AND MAY ASSUME A NEGATIVE TILT AS IT MOVES ACROSS THE LOWER OHIO VALLEY LATE SATURDAY OR EARLY SUNDAY. THE 00Z NAM AND GFS OPERATIONAL MODELS PRESENT A DIFFERENT EVOLUTION OF THE TROUGH AND THE SURFACE LOW. THE NAM QUICKLY SWINGS A NEGATIVELY TILTED TROUGH THROUGH KENTUCKY EARLY SUNDAY AS IT RAPIDLY DEEPENS A SURFACE LOW ACROSS THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES BY SUNDAY MORNING. THE NAM BRINGS A DEEP CLOSED 500MB CLOSED LOW QUITE FAR SOUTH ACROSS IOWA BY EARLY SUNDAY. THE SLOWER GFS PRESENTS MORE OF AN OPEN AMPLIFIED TROUGH...THAT DOESN`T MOVE ACROSS THE REGION UNTIL LATER IN THE DAY SUNDAY. THE GFS DEEPENS THE SURFACE LOW MORE SLOWLY AND FARTHER EAST LATE SUNDAY. IN ANY EVENT...THIS SYSTEM WILL BRING RAIN SHOWERS AND PROBABLY SOME GUSTY WINDS ACROSS THE AREA LATE SATURDAY OR EARLY SUNDAY. THE STRONGER GFS DEVELOPS A 45KT 925MB LOW LEVEL JET LATE SATURDAY JUST AHEAD OF THE SURFACE FRONT. WINDY CONDITIONS MAY DEVELOP IN ASSOCIATION WITH THIS JET...AND ALSO RIGHT BEHIND THE COLD FRONT...WHEN MUCH COLDER AIR WILL FLOOD THE AREA. THIS SYSTEM WILL HAVE STRONG DYNAMICS AND FORCING. THE STRENGTH OF THE JET MAX ROUNDING THE BASE OF THE TROUGH AND KENTUCKY`S RELATIVE POSITION UNDER THE NOSE OF THIS JET MAY PROVIDE ENOUGH INSTABILITY FOR SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS. WILL NOT ALTER TOO MUCH OUR CURRENT FORECAST AND WILL CONTINUE LIKELY POPS SATURDAY NIGHT...DIMINISHING EARLY SUNDAY. VERY MILD TEMPERATURES NEAR 60 ARE LIKELY SATURDAY...WITH POSSIBLY STEADY OR FALLING TEMPS SUNDAY. MID LEVEL MOISTURE WILL BE SCOURED OUT SUNDAY AS DRY SLOT OF THE CYCLONE TO OUR NORTH ROTATES OVERHEAD. LATE SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY... PARTLY CLOUDY SKIES WITH SEASONABLY COOL TEMPERATURES WILL CONTINUE THROUGH LATE MONDAY AS HIGH PRESSURE SLIDES SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE LOWER OHIO VALLEY. THE FORECAST FOR CHRISTMAS DAY LOOKS A BIT TRICKY. THE OPERATIONAL GFS AND ESPECIALLY THE OPERATIONAL ECMWF BRING A TROUGH ACROSS THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY LATE MONDAY AND OVER THE TENNESSEE VALLEY TUESDAY. SHOULD THIS OCCUR LIGHT RAIN OR SNOW MAY DEVELOP DURING THE DAY...WITH KENTUCKY LOCATED ON THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THE PRECIPITATION SHIELD. HOWEVER...THE 12Z GFS ENSEMBLES SHOW ALMOST NO HINT OF THIS TROUGH AND HAS NO PRECIPITATION TUESDAY. FOR NOW WILL NOT ALTER ONGOING MENTION OF MIXED PRECIP ON CHRISTMAS DAY. AT THIS POINT...WEDNESDAY LOOKS DRY WITH SEASONABLE TEMPERATURES. && .AVIATION (18Z TAFS)... AN UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCE MOVING ACROSS THE WESTERN GULF COAST STATES WILL PUMP MOISTURE INTO SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL KENTUCKY THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT. SHOWERS JUST SOUTHWEST OF BWG WILL GRADUALLY SHIFT NORTHEAST THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT. ENOUGH INSTABILITY EXISTS OVER THE SOUTH TO MENTION A FEW HOURS WITH THUNDER AT BWG. THE RAIN WILL MOVE ACROSS SDF AROUND 00Z AND LEX BY 03Z. I EXPECT CIGS TO DROP INTO THE MVFR OR UPPER IFR RANGE WITH VSBYS AT BWG EXPECTED TO DROP INTO THE IFR RANGE TONIGHT. THE RAIN WILL END BY 10Z FRIDAY BUT CIGS WILL REMAIN LOW. && .LMK WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... KY...NONE. IN...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...JA LONG TERM....JSD AVIATION.....JA
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GAYLORD MI
1002 PM EST THU DEC 20 2007 .UPDATE...BROAD WARM ADVECTION PATTERN IN PLACE ACROSS THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES THIS EVENING...WITH VEERING WINDS FROM THE SURFACE (SOUTHEAST) UP THROUGH 500MB (WEST-SOUTHWEST). RADAR RETURNS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING WITHIN THIS PATTERN ACROSS LAKE MICHIGAN/FAR WESTERN LOWER MI...WEST AND SOUTHWEST INTO WI/NORTHERN IL WITHIN AN AXIS OF STEEPER MID LEVEL LAPSE RATES. LOW LAYERS ARE DRIER FARTHER NORTH AND EAST PER 00Z APX/DTX/GRB SOUNDINGS...WITH A DRY WEDGE OF AIR BELOW 700MB...WHILE AIRCRAFT SOUNDINGS OUT OF WESTERN UPPER/ NORTHWEST WI INDICATING A MORE SATURATED COLUMN. LOW ST DECK HANGING IN ACROSS FAR EASTERN UPPER AND CLIPPING NORTHEAST LOWER AROUND PZQ-APN. LOW LEVEL DRY AIR EXPECTED TO REMAIN GENERALLY INTACT OVERNIGHT GIVEN UPSTREAM CONDITIONS AND PERSISTENT SOUTHEAST/SOUTH LOW LEVEL FLOW. SO WILL KEEP THE FORECAST DRY...EXPECTING AS LOW LEVEL MOISTURE EVIDENT ON MPX/DVN/ILX SOUNDINGS WORKS INTO THE AREA FRIDAY DRIZZLE OR LIGHT RAIN WILL BE MORE OF AN ISSUE. THUS FAR TEMPERATURE/DEW POINT SPREADS HAVE REMAINED FAIRLY CONSISTENT (GENERALLY 4-8 DEGREES)...CLOUDS/WINDS EXPECTED TO REMAIN PERSISTENT THROUGH THE NIGHT. HIGHER TERRAIN AREAS MOST PROBABLE AREAS TO SEE SOME FOG DEVELOPMENT OVERNIGHT DUE TO UPSLOPE FLOW. JPB && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 409 PM EST THU DEC 20 2007/ RATHER FLAT SHORTWAVE RIDGE ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES TONIGHT WITH SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE SLIDING EAST OF AREA. A WEAK SHORTWAVE TROF OVER WISCONSIN WILL MOVE TOWARD THE WESTERN LAKES TONIGHT...BUT WITH NO UPPER SUPPORT AND LIMITED MOISTURE...WILL LIKELY ONLY PRODUCE MID/HIGH CLOUDS. ONE EXCEPTION WILL BE OVER NORTHERN CHIPPEWA COUNTY...WHERE A FEW FLURRIES WILL BE POSSIBLE CLOSER TO THE VORTICITY CENTER. DIFFICULT CALL ON FOG/STRATUS OVERNIGHT. FORECAST SOUNDINGS WOULD SAY LITTLE IF ANY FOG/STRATUS OVERNIGHT WITH JUST SOME VERY SHALLOW MOISTURE BELOW 950MB. SURFACE GRADIENT WILL BE SOMEWHAT STRONGER THAN LAST NIGHT BUT WITH RIDGING ALOFT AND BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE FROM MELTED SNOW...WE STILL COULD SEE SOME RE-DEVELOPMENT OVERNIGHT. LIGHT S/SE LOW LEVEL FLOW WILL ADVECT SLIGHTLY HIGHER DEW POINT AIR FROM LAKE HURON...AND IT APPEARS BEST CHANCE OF STRATUS WOULD BE ACROSS THE HIGHER TERRAIN OF NORTHERN LOWER MICHIGAN EASTWARD TOWARD LAKE HURON. EVEN WITHOUT THE STRATUS...PLENTY OF MID/HIGH CLOUDS OVERNIGHT ASSOCIATED WITH WEAK SHORTWAVE ENERGY SLIDING IN FROM THE WEST. ALL OF THE CLOUDS WILL KEEP TEMPERATURES IN THE 20S FOR ALL AREAS. JK FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT...A COUPLE OF ITEMS OF CONCERN IN THIS PERIOD. FOR THE MORNING...SHALLOW MOISTURE BELOW 950MB...SLIGHTLY DEEPER DOWNWIND OF LAKE HURON WILL LEAD TO SOME LOW CLOUDS AND FOG ACROSS THE REGION. THE DEEPER MOISTURE DOWNWIND OF LAKE HURON WOULD CALL FOR STRATUS...WHILE OTHER AREAS WOULD TREND MORE TOWARD FOG. FORECAST SOUNDINGS DO NOT SHOW AS MUCH DRY AIR ALOFT TO HELP PROMOTE COOLING OF THE VERY SHALLOW MOISTURE...AND TEMPS THURSDAY DID NOT REALLY CLIMB AS HIGH FOR ADDITIONAL SNOW MELT AND ADDED MOISTURE TO THE BOUNDARY LAYER. WOULD STILL EXPECT PATCHY FOG TO DEVELOP...AND WILL GO WITH THAT IDEA FOR THE MORNING. IN THE AFTERNOON...A BAND OF DEEPER LOW LEVEL MOISTURE AHEAD OF WEAK WARM FRONTAL SIGNATURE WILL BRING AN AXIS OF HIGHER H8 TD`S NORTHWARD INTO NRN MICHIGAN IN THE LATE AFTERNOON. FORECAST SOUNDINGS ARE SHOWING THIS MOISTURE ADVECTION...TO BECOME AS DEEP AS 800MB AND WARMER THAN -5C. AREAS OF DRIZZLE STILL LOOKING GOOD...AND SEE NO REASON TO SWAY FROM CURRENT FORECAST. PERIODS OF DRIZZLE LOOK TO CONTINUE INTO FRIDAY NIGHT...UNDER PERSISTENT WARN ADVECTION. TEMPERATURES TO REACH THE LOW TO MID 30S AGAIN FRIDAY...BUT AS WARM ADVECTION/WARM FRONTAL SIGNATURE SURGES NORTH...LITTLE NOCTURNAL DROP IN TEMPS ARE EXPECTED. SLIGHT DROP IN THE EVENING POSSIBLE...THEN JUST INCHING UPWARD BY DAYBREAK. SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT...SORT OF A DIFFICULT TIME FRAME FOR THE ACTUAL WEATHER THAT WILL OCCUR...BUT IMPACTS ARE BECOMING MORE LIKELY TO BE MINIMAL. SECONDARY SURGE OF MOISTURE ADVECTION SEEN AT H8 MOVING INTO NRN MICHIGAN SATURDAY...WITH INITIAL FORCING FROM UPSTREAM NRN AND SRN STREAM SHORTWAVES ARRIVING IN THE AFTERNOON. ACTUAL MEASURABLE RAINFALL MORE LIKELY...AND WILL KEEP 70 PERCENT CHANCES. HOWEVER...IT SHOULD BE LIGHT...AND WILL JUST CARRY PERIODS OF LIGHT RAIN...DRIZZLE AND FOG. SFC TD`S WILL BE REACHING THE 33-35F RANGE...WHICH ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO RESULT IN FOG DEVELOPMENT...ESPECIALLY OVER SNOW PACK. THE SNOW COVER WILL TEMPER POTENTIAL WARM SFC TEMP READINGS...AND AM EXPECTING A RATHER DREARY...DAMP AND COOL DAY WITH HIGHS IN THE 36-41 RANGE. THIS WEATHER WILL CONTINUE THROUGH MUCH OF THE NIGHT...AS FEEL RATHER CONFIDENT THAT TEMPS WILL STAY WARM THROUGH THE MIDNIGHT HOUR. OVERNIGHT SATURDAY NIGHT...THE NRN AND SRN STREAM NOW SERIOUSLY LOOK TO PHASE WITH ONE ANOTHER...AS NEARLY EVERY MODEL SUGGESTING THIS VERY THING. ALWAYS HAVE RESERVATIONS WITH SUCH A SCENARIO...PARTICULARLY SURROUNDING THE LOCATION OF LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER...THE CONSENSUS IS FOR LOW PRESSURE TO RAPIDLY DEVELOP/DEEPEN FROM SRN LAKE MICHIGAN UP THROUGH THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN UPPER MICHIGAN REGION. STRONG COLD ADVECTION BEGINS TO WRAP INTO NRN MICHIGAN FROM THE SOUTHWEST...AND ANY DRIZZLE/LIGHT RAIN WILL CHANGE OVER TO SNOW. ALTHOUGH WOULD NOT GET TOO CUTE WITH THIS IN THE FORECAST...WOULD SEE THE ONSET OF THIS WITH ARRIVAL OF MID LEVEL DRY SLOT/BAND OF SNOW TRACKING NORTHEAST ACROSS THE CWA. THAT EVOLUTION REMAINS TO BE SEEN. WILL BRING AN ALL SNOW CHANCE TO THE SW CWA 09-12Z. SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT...UPPER TROUGH BECOMES NEGATIVELY TILTED AND THE SFC LOW DEEPENS AS LOW AS 986MB OR SO AS IT SHIFTS ACROSS SE ONTARIO. WITHOUT GREAT ENOUGH CONFIDENCE IN THE EXACT TRACK OF THE SFC LOW...DEEP WRAP AROUND MOISTURE IN DEFORMATION ZONE ON NW FLANK OF THE SFC LOW OBVIOUSLY IN QUESTION TOO. AS IT STANDS NOW...BEST CHANCE FOR ACCUMULATING SNOWFALL WILL RESIDE ACROSS CENTRAL UPPER MICHIGAN AND WISCONSIN. SEVERAL INCHES OF SNOWFALL ARE POSSIBLE THERE. ACROSS NRN MICHIGAN...THE UPPER LEVEL COLD CORE ARRIVES...AND WE LOOK TO HAVE MORE CELLULAR/CONVECTIVE TYPE SNOW SHOWERS WITH LAKE ENHANCEMENT. WINDS DO SHIFT DECENTLY THROUGH THIS TIME...BUT AT LEAST A PERIOD OF RATHER VIGOROUS SNOWFALL IS EXPECTED MOST AREAS. CONVECTIVE SNOW SHOWERS ALONE CAN RESULT IN POOR VISIBILITY...AND WHEN COMBINED WITH STRONG AND GUSTY WSW WINDS...CAN CERTAINLY SEE THE NEED FOR WINTER WEATHER HEADLINES. TOMORROW MAY ANSWER THE QUESTION...AS TO WHICH HEADLINE WE`LL NEED. ACCUMULATIONS WILL HOPEFULLY BECOME A LITTLE CLEARER TOO. EXPECT HAZARDOUS WEATHER/DRIVING CONDITIONS ON SUNDAY...FOR HOLIDAY TRAVELERS. LATER PERIODS...A PERIOD OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS WITH NICE CYCLONIC CONVERGENCE STILL EXPECTED ON BACKSIDE OF THIS STORM WHICH MAY CONTINUE THROUGH MONDAY. DRY AIR FEEDS INTO THE REGION BY MONDAY NIGHT...LIMITING SNOWFALL/ACCUMULATION POTENTIAL. MODEL ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE HEADING INTO LATER TIME PERIODS. ONE THING MAY BE TAKEN FROM THE PATTERN...THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ANY MAJOR WEATHER SYSTEMS TUESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY...AT LEAST FOR NOW. MARINE...LOW END MARINE ISSUES TO CONTEND WITH...AS 950MB WINDS CLIMBING TO 25 KNOTS OR SO...BUT THIS GUSTS POTENTIAL WILL BE TEMPERED BY INCREASING STABILITY OVER THE LAKES. WENT AHEAD AND ISSUED A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY THROUGH FRIDAY...ALTHOUGH EXTENSIONS MAY BE NEEDED AS 950MB WINDS CONTINUE TO INCREASE THROUGH THE WEEKEND. STRONGER MARINE HEADLINES CERTAINLY TO BE NEEDED BY SUNDAY AS THE COLD AIR PLOWS INTO THE REGION. SMD AVIATION... /ISSUED 644 PM EST THU DEC 20 2007/ MID/HIGH CLOUDS ACROSS NORTHERN MI OVERNIGHT...SOME ST OVER LAKE HURON MAY IMPACT APN THIS EVENING. CLOUD COVER AND PERSISTENT SOUTHEAST FLOW MAY IMPACT FOG POTENTIAL AT TERMINAL SITES OVERNIGHT. CEILINGS WILL LOWER DURING THE DAY FRIDAY... PREVAILING MVFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED. SOME DRIZZLE OR LIGHT RAIN POSSIBLE DURING THE AFTERNOON. JPB && .APX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 5 AM TO 6 PM EST FRIDAY FOR LMZ341. LH...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 5 AM TO 6 PM EST FRIDAY FOR LHZ346. LS...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 1 AM TO 6 PM EST FRIDAY FOR LSZ321. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GAYLORD MI
1030 AM EST WED DEC 19 2007 .UPDATE....12Z SURFACE/RAOB/RUC ANALYSIS AND IR/WV/RADAR IMAGERY SHOW A SHORTWAVE AND ASSOCIATED SURFACE LOW MOVING ACROSS NE LOWER...A COLD FRONT EXTENDING FROM THIS LOW SOUTH TOWARDS LANSING...AND A SURFACE TROUGH EXTENDED NW TOWARDS MQT. LIGHT RADAR RETURNS CONTINUE TO MOVE SE ON THE WESTERN FLANK OF THE SURFACE LOW...ENHANCED A BIT BY THE AFOREMENTIONED SURFACE TROUGH. NUMEROUS LOCATIONS ARE STILL REPORTING LIGHT FREEZING DRIZZLE...MIXED WITH FLURRIES OR LIGHT SNOW AT TIMES ACROSS NORTHERN LOWER...AND THE 12Z APX SOUNDING SUGGESTS WHY WITH THE MOISTURE DEPTH ONLY REACHING UP TO -11C. ACARS SOUNDING OUT OF KINROSS SHOWS DEEPER MOISTURE UP TO -15C WHICH EXPLAINS ALL SNOW BEING REPORTED ACROSS EASTERN UPPER. NW WINDS BEHIND THE LOW ARE FUNNELING IN SLIGHTLY COOLER 850MB TEMPS THAN THE MODELS PORTRAY...GIVING RISE TO POTENTIAL LAKE EFFECT PRECIP HEADING INTO THE AFTERNOON. BUT FIRST...HAVE TO DEAL WITH TIMING OF NUISANT -FZDZ COMING TO AN END. MAIN AREA OF -FZDZ MIXED WITH LIGHT SNOW WILL CONTINUE SOUTH ACROSS THE CWA THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON. EXIT TIMING BASED ON RADAR AND SATELLITE LOOPS IS AROUND 18Z ACROSS THE FAR SE CWA...BUT THERE MAY BE SOME LINGERING FZDZ BASED ON LOWER VSBYS ACROSS THE TIP OF THE MITT SO HAVE EXTENDED WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY THROUGH 19Z. ALTHOUGH THE PRIMARY ROADS ARE PROBABLY OK BY NOW...UNTREATED SECONDARY ROADS MAY STILL BE A LITTLE ICY. THEREAFTER...NW FLOW BECOMES ESTABLISHED (ALREADY TAKING SHAPE ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR) WITH MARGINAL DELTA T/S AROUND 13-14C AND EXPECT A TRANSITION TO LIGHT NW FLOW LAKE EFFECT FROM MID-AFTERNOON ONWARD. INSTABILITY IS ONLY MARGINAL...SO ACCUMULATIONS SHOULD BE A HALF INCH OR LESS...WHICH THE CURRENT FORECAST DISPLAYS WELL. CLOUD COVER WILL REMAIN CLOUDY ALL DAY...AND TEMPERATURES THEREFORE WILL NOT INCREASE TOO MUCH. SO HIGHS IN THE LOW-MID 30S LOOKS GOOD. MPC && .AVIATION... /ISSUED 632 AM EST WED DEC 19 2007/ ABUNDANT LOW LEVEL MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH WEAK SURFACE LOW PRESSURE MOVING ACROSS FAR NORTHERN LOWER MICHIGAN EARLY THIS MORNING IS RESULTING IN LOW END MVFR CIGS AND VISIBILITIES IN BR AND LIGHT FREEZING DRIZZLE AT TVC AND APN AND FREEZING DRIZZLE AND SNOW AT PLN. EXPECT THESE CONDITIONS TO PERSIST THROUGH MUCH OF THIS MORNING UNTIL SLIGHTLY DRIER AIR FILTERING INTO THE REGION HELPS PUT AN END TO THE FREEZING DRIZZLE. HOWEVER...LIGHT LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP THIS AFTERNOON...BUT MUCH OF THIS ACTIVITY WILL FALL BETWEEN TAF SITES. WINDS WILL PICK UP OUT OF THE NORTHWEST LATER THIS MORNING INTO THIS AFTERNOON BUT DIMINISH THIS EVENING. AJS && DISCUSSION...ISSUED 510 AM ON THE LATEST SURFACE WEATHER MAP...1009 MB LOW PRESSURE WAS CENTERED ACROSS NORTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN. SATELLITE LOOPS AND SURFACE OBSERVATIONS INDICATED THAT A STRATOCU DECK HAD OVERSPREAD THE REGION. APX RADAR CONTINUED TO SHOW 16-20 DBZ RETURNS FROM THE TIP OF THE MITT INTO EASTERN UPPER OF THE LAST FEW HOURS. MEANWHILE...A BROAD AREA OF 4-8 DBZ RETURNS DEVELOPED ACROSS SOUTHWEST AND SOUTH CENTRAL COUNTIES A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO WITH A SLOW PROGRESSION TO THE EAST. THE MAIN FORECAST CONCERNS REVOLVE AROUND EXTENT OF FREEZING DRIZZLE AND POSSIBLE HEADLINES THIS MORNING...POPS THURSDAY NIGHT AND HOW MUCH TO TWEAK THE DETAILS OF THE POTENTIAL MAJOR STORM SYSTEM THIS WEEKEND. CLIPPER AND ASSOCIATED AREA OF DIVQ WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE ACROSS FAR NORTHERN ZONES THIS MORNING. SO FAR ONLY LIGHT SNOW (NO FREEZING DRIZZLE) HAS BEEN REPORTED ACROSS THE TIP OF THE MITT AND EASTERN UPPER. MEANWHILE TO THE SOUTH LIGHT RETURNS CORRESPOND TO RECENT REPORTS OF FREEZING DRIZZLE AND DEVELOPING ICY CONDITIONS. MODEL SOUNDINGS/CROSS SECTIONS MOISTEN UP THE COLUMN THROUGH BETWEEN -12 AND -14 C THIS MORNING WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT ANY PRECIPITATION THAT FALLS WOULD BE IN THE FORM OF SNOW. HOWEVER...WITH THE TRACK OF THE CLIPPER (ACROSS THE FAR NORTH) ITS HARD TO BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD MOISTEN UP THIS MUCH SOUTH OF THE SURFACE LOW TRACK. THIS IS BORNE OUT WITH THE INCREASING NUMBER OF FREEZING DRIZZLE REPORTS. THEREFORE WILL ISSUE A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR THIS MORNING ACROSS ALL ZONES IN NORTHERN LOWER WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE COUNTIES IN THE TIPP OF THE MITT WHERE MAINLY LIGHT SNOW IS EXPECTED. AS FAR AS SNOW AMOUNTS ACROSS THE FAR NORTH...ONLY EXPECTING LESS THAN AN INCH OF ACCUMULATION. WINDS VEER INTO THE NORTHWEST THIS AFTERNOON AND OVER LAKE INSTABILITY APPEARS TO BE MARGINALLY SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT LIGHT LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS (LAKE-850 MB DELTA TS INCREASE TO BETWEEN 13 TO 14) WITH 900-700 MB RH STILL 60 TO 80 PERCENT AND. SO WILL ADD IN NUMEROUS LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS WITH AN INCH OR LESS OF ACCUMULATION INTO FAVORED NW FLOW AREAS. CLOUDS ARE EXPECTED TO HANG IN ALL DAY WITH MODEST COLD AIR ADVECTION. TEMPERATURES SHOULD REMAIN NEARLY STEADY OR FALL BY A COUPLE OF DEGREES (GENERALLY AROUND 30 TO THE LOWER 30S). TONIGHT...NAM LINGERS OVER LAKE INSTABILITY/MOISTURE WELL INTO THIS EVENING WHILE THE GFS HAS PRONOUNCED DRYING (MEAN 900-700 MB RH <40 PERCENT) AND WARMING (850 TEMPS INCREASE BY A FEW DEGREES). AT THIS POINT WILL GO WITH A COMPROMISE SOLUTION WITH ONLY A CHANCE OF LIGHT LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS IN NORTHWEST FLOW AREAS THROUGH MIDNIGHT AS MEAN SURFACE-850 MB WINDS BARELY SUPPORT ORGANIZED LAKE EFFECT (10 KNOTS OR SO). INCREASING RIDGING/SUFFICIENT WARMING/DRYING OVERNIGHT SHOULD PUT THE KABOSH ON ANY LINGERING ACTIVITY. LOWS TONIGHT IN THE MIDDLE TEENS TO LOWER 20S. THURSDAY...RIDGING AT THE SURFACE AND ALOFT FOR MUCH OF THE DAY. GFS IS FASTER THAN THE NAM WITH MOISTURE RETURN WITH DEVELOPING SOUTHERLY FLOW BUT THIS APPEARS TO BE A BIT QUICK. FOR NOW WILL CONTINUE WITH PARTLY CLOUDY AND MILD CONDITIONS WITH INCREASING CLOUDINESS LATE IN THE DAY. HIGHS IN THE MILD LOWER AND MIDDLE 30S. THURSDAY NIGHT...WARM ADVECTION SHOULD INCREASE PER NAM/GFS LEADING TO THICKENING CLOUD DECK. MOISTURE DEPTH IS QUESTIONABLE FOR PRECIPITATION PRODUCTION BUT WILL ADD IN A CHANCE OF FLURRIES OVERNIGHT. THERE EVEN COULD BE SOME FREEZING DRIZZLE ONCE AGAIN BUT WILL LET THE DAYSHIFT TAKE A BETTER LOOK AT THAT SCENARIO DUE TO LIMITED TIME CONSTRAINT`S AT THE MOMENT. LOWS IN THE LOWER AND MIDDLE 20S. FRIDAY...CONTINUED SOUTHERLY FLOW WITH DRY MID LEVELS SO A MOSTLY CLOUDY DAY IS EXPECTED WITH HIGHS GENERALLY IN THE MIDDLE 30S. FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY...COMPLEX WEATHER SITUATION SHAPING UP WITH ENERGY IN THE SOUTHERN JET STREAM MOVING NORTHEAST OUT OF THE DESERT SOUTHWEST WHILE ENERGY IN THE NORTHERN JET STREAM DROPS DOWN OUT OF CENTRAL CANADA. EXTENDED MODELS THIS RUN ARE IN BETTER AGREEMENT THAT THE SOUTHERN ENERGY IMPACTS THE AREA FIRST WITH LOW PRESSURE MOVING BY TO OUR WEST WHICH WOULD LEAD TO MAINLY RAIN FOR SATURDAY. THE NORTHERN STREAM ENERGY IS SHOWN TO BE VERY IMPRESSIVE AND IT MERGES WITH THE SOUTHERN STREAM ENERGY SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY WHICH WOULD LEAD TO FALLING TEMPERATURES...INCREASING WINDS AND RAIN CHANGING TO SNOW SATURDAY NIGHT AND CONTINUING INTO SUNDAY. MODELS HAVE BEEN WAVERING OVER THE DETAILS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS BUT WILL MAKE A FEW ADJUSTMENTS TO CURRENT FORECAST WHICH LINE UP WITH SURROUNDING OFFICES...LIKE INCREASING POPS AND GOING WITH A CHANGEOVER TO ALL SNOW SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY. SULLIVAN && .APX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 2 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON FOR MIZ019>036-041-042. LM...NONE. LH...NONE. LS...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GREEN BAY WI
816 PM CST THU DEC 20 2007 .UPDATE...ISSUED ZR ADVISORY. RADAR INDICATING HEAVIER RETURNS MOVING INTO AREA WITH TEMPS BELOW FREEZING. ISW REPORTED .04 RAIN SO FAR. STILL SOME DRY AIR TO OVERCOME ON EVENING SOUNDING...SO EXPECT AMOUNTS WILL BE LIGHTER TO THE EAST. MARATHON COUNTY REPORTED CARS IN DITCH WITH ICE FORMING ON CARS. TE && .PREV DISCUSSION...ISSUED AT 344 PM CST THU DEC 20 2007... SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY. JET ENERGY MOVING THROUGH THE SOUTHWEST UPPER FLOW WILL PRODUCE SOME LIGHT PRECIPITATION TONIGHT AND FRIDAY. PRECIPITATION TYPE WILL BE TRICKY TONIGHT IN THE EASTERN PART OF THE FORECAST AREA WHERE TEMPERATURES WERE IN THE MIDDLE TO UPPER 30S LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND DEWPOINTS WERE JUST BELOW FREEZING. TIME OF YEAR WOULD ARGUE THAT TEMPERATURES WILL FALL BELOW FREEZING...DESPITE WIND OFF LAKE AND A WELL MIXED BOUNDARY LAYER. THINKING THAT THERE WILL BE FREEZING DRIZZLE AND PERHAPS SOME LIGHT FREEZING RAIN ARRIVING LATE THIS EVENING AND CONTINUING OFF AND ON THROUGH PART OF FRIDAY. EVEN IF AIR TEMPERATURES ARE A DEGREE OR TWO ABOVE FREEZING THE GROUND IS SUBFREEZING FROM THE RECENT COLD WEATHER AND WE MAY GET ICE ON ROADS AND SIDEWALKS ANYWAY. TEMPERATURES SHOULD GET ABOVE FREEZING EVERYWHERE BY FRIDAY AFTERNOON. WILL NOT ISSUE ANY ADVISORIES FOR THE FREEZING DRIZZLE RIGHT NOW...BUT WILL HIGHLIGHT IN HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK AND INFORM EVENING SHIFT ABOUT ICING POTENTIAL. LONG TERM...FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH NEXT THURSDAY MAIN FOCUS ON THIS PERIOD WILL BE WINTER STORM THAT WILL AFFECT THE AREA SATURDAY AFTERNOON INTO SUNDAY. MODELS IN FAIR AGREEMENT WITH BRINGING SURFACE WAVE FROM SOUTHEAST MISSOURI AT 12Z SATURDAY MORNING INTO THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES REGION BY SUNDAY MORNING. THE DIFFERENCE ARISE IN THE DETAILS AND STRENGTH OF THE SYSTEM. FOR FRIDAY NIGHT...THINK THERE WILL BE PATCHY FREEZING DRIZZLE OR LIGHT SNOW OVER THE FAR NORTH WITH A PATCHY DRIZZLE OR LIGHT RAIN OVER THE SOUTHEAST. MINIMUM TEMPERATURES WILL ONLY DROP A FEW DEGREES FROM HIGHS FRIDAY AFTERNOON. ON SATURDAY...SURFACE LOW MOVES TOWARDS THE GREAT LAKES REGION. PERSISTENT 850MB WARM ADVECTION AND LACK OF MID LEVEL MOISTURE WILL ALLOW FOR PRECIPITATION TO START IN THE FORM OF DRIZZLE OR LIGHT FREEZING DRIZZLE OVER THE NORTH AND DRIZZLE OVER THE SOUTH. THE DRIZZLE SHOULD TURN OVER TO LIGHT SNOW OR LIGHT RAIN DURING THE AFTERNOON AS MID LEVEL MOISTURE SPREADS EASTWARD ACROSS THE AREA. CURRENT MODEL SOUNDINGS AND 850MB TEMPERATURES SUGGEST LIGHT SNOW OVER THE NORTH...A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW WEST OF GREEN BAY AND THE FOX VALLEY...AND RAIN EAST OF THERE. MODELS DIVERGE RAPIDLY WITH INTENSITY OF THE SYSTEM AND WHEN THIS WILL OCCUR SATURDAY NIGHT AS THE LOW IS EXPECTED TO MOVE INTO CANADA ON SUNDAY. WRF/ECMWF/CANADIAN WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT THE SURFACE LOW WOULD BE A LITTLE FURTHER WEST WITH PATH OF SYSTEM WHICH WILL ALSO AFFECT TIMING OF PRECIPITATION CHANGING TO ALL SNOW. HPC GUIDANCE TOOK A MIDDLE OF THE ROAD APPROACH FOR NOW...BUT ECMWF/WRF WOULD SUGGEST THAT SNOWFALL TOTALS AND QPF TOTALS WILL NEED TO BE RAISED IN THE NEXT FEW MODEL RUNS. WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF WINTER STORM WATCHES WILL BE NEEDED SOMEWHERE ACROSS OUR AREA LATER THIS WEEKEND. BEING THE 5TH PERIOD AND A GREAT DEAL OF UNCERTAINTY ON HOW THIS SYSTEM WILL DEVELOP WILL LEAD TO NO WATCHES ISSUED WITH THIS PACKAGE. WILL BEEF UP SYSTEM IN THE HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK. SNOW SHOWERS WILL LINGER INTO SUNDAY AS UPPER TROUGH SWINGS THROUGH THE AREA. HAVE INCREASED SNOW CHANCES BY 10 TO 20 PERCENT FOR SNOW SHOWER ACTIVITY. WILL ALSO NEED TO WATCH WINDS ACROSS DOOR COUNTY SUNDAY AFTERNOON INTO SUNDAY NIGHT...WHERE GUSTS MAY EXCEED 40 MPH AT TIMES. HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE REGION LATER SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY. THE REST OF THE PERIOD WILL BE QUIET WITH A CHANCE OF LIGHT SNOW LATER IN THE WEEK. AVIATION...CEILINGS AND VISIBILITIES WILL LOWER TONIGHT AS LOW LEVEL MOISTURE ARRIVES FROM THE SOUTH. IN ADDITION...FREEZING DRIZZLE MAY PRODUCE HAZARDS TO AIRCRAFT WITHOUT DEICING EQUIPMENT. && .GRB WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... FREEZING RAIN ADVISORY UNTIL 6 AM CST FRIDAY FOR WIZ005-010>013- 018>021-030-031. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GREEN BAY WI
344 PM CST THU DEC 20 2007 .SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY. JET ENERGY MOVING THROUGH THE SOUTHWEST UPPER FLOW WILL PRODUCE SOME LIGHT PRECIPITATION TONIGHT AND FRIDAY. PRECIPITATION TYPE WILL BE TRICKY TONIGHT IN THE EASTERN PART OF THE FORECAST AREA WHERE TEMPERATURES WERE IN THE MIDDLE TO UPPER 30S LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND DEWPOINTS WERE JUST BELOW FREEZING. TIME OF YEAR WOULD ARGUE THAT TEMPERATURES WILL FALL BELOW FREEZING...DESPITE WIND OFF LAKE AND A WELL MIXED BOUNDARY LAYER. THINKING THAT THERE WILL BE FREEZING DRIZZLE AND PERHAPS SOME LIGHT FREEZING RAIN ARRIVING LATE THIS EVENING AND CONTINUING OFF AND ON THROUGH PART OF FRIDAY. EVEN IF AIR TEMPERATURES ARE A DEGREE OR TWO ABOVE FREEZING THE GROUND IS SUBFREEZING FROM THE RECENT COLD WEATHER AND WE MAY GET ICE ON ROADS AND SIDEWALKS ANYWAY. TEMPERATURES SHOULD GET ABOVE FREEZING EVERYWHERE BY FRIDAY AFTERNOON. WILL NOT ISSUE ANY ADVISORIES FOR THE FREEZING DRIZZLE RIGHT NOW...BUT WILL HIGHLIGHT IN HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK AND INFORM EVENING SHIFT ABOUT ICING POTENTIAL. .LONG TERM...FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH NEXT THURSDAY MAIN FOCUS ON THIS PERIOD WILL BE WINTER STORM THAT WILL AFFECT THE AREA SATURDAY AFTERNOON INTO SUNDAY. MODELS IN FAIR AGREEMENT WITH BRINGING SURFACE WAVE FROM SOUTHEAST MISSOURI AT 12Z SATURDAY MORNING INTO THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES REGION BY SUNDAY MORNING. THE DIFFERENCE ARISE IN THE DETAILS AND STRENGTH OF THE SYSTEM. FOR FRIDAY NIGHT...THINK THERE WILL BE PATCHY FREEZING DRIZZLE OR LIGHT SNOW OVER THE FAR NORTH WITH A PATCHY DRIZZLE OR LIGHT RAIN OVER THE SOUTHEAST. MINIMUM TEMPERATURES WILL ONLY DROP A FEW DEGREES FROM HIGHS FRIDAY AFTERNOON. ON SATURDAY...SURFACE LOW MOVES TOWARDS THE GREAT LAKES REGION. PERSISTENT 850MB WARM ADVECTION AND LACK OF MID LEVEL MOISTURE WILL ALLOW FOR PRECIPITATION TO START IN THE FORM OF DRIZZLE OR LIGHT FREEZING DRIZZLE OVER THE NORTH AND DRIZZLE OVER THE SOUTH. THE DRIZZLE SHOULD TURN OVER TO LIGHT SNOW OR LIGHT RAIN DURING THE AFTERNOON AS MID LEVEL MOISTURE SPREADS EASTWARD ACROSS THE AREA. CURRENT MODEL SOUNDINGS AND 850MB TEMPERATURES SUGGEST LIGHT SNOW OVER THE NORTH...A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW WEST OF GREEN BAY AND THE FOX VALLEY...AND RAIN EAST OF THERE. MODELS DIVERGE RAPIDLY WITH INTENSITY OF THE SYSTEM AND WHEN THIS WILL OCCUR SATURDAY NIGHT AS THE LOW IS EXPECTED TO MOVE INTO CANADA ON SUNDAY. WRF/ECMWF/CANADIAN WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT THE SURFACE LOW WOULD BE A LITTLE FURTHER WEST WITH PATH OF SYSTEM WHICH WILL ALSO AFFECT TIMING OF PRECIPITATION CHANGING TO ALL SNOW. HPC GUIDANCE TOOK A MIDDLE OF THE ROAD APPROACH FOR NOW...BUT ECMWF/WRF WOULD SUGGEST THAT SNOWFALL TOTALS AND QPF TOTALS WILL NEED TO BE RAISED IN THE NEXT FEW MODEL RUNS. WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF WINTER STORM WATCHES WILL BE NEEDED SOMEWHERE ACROSS OUR AREA LATER THIS WEEKEND. BEING THE 5TH PERIOD AND A GREAT DEAL OF UNCERTAINTY ON HOW THIS SYSTEM WILL DEVELOP WILL LEAD TO NO WATCHES ISSUED WITH THIS PACKAGE. WILL BEEF UP SYSTEM IN THE HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK. SNOW SHOWERS WILL LINGER INTO SUNDAY AS UPPER TROUGH SWINGS THROUGH THE AREA. HAVE INCREASED SNOW CHANCES BY 10 TO 20 PERCENT FOR SNOW SHOWER ACTIVITY. WILL ALSO NEED TO WATCH WINDS ACROSS DOOR COUNTY SUNDAY AFTERNOON INTO SUNDAY NIGHT...WHERE GUSTS MAY EXCEED 40 MPH AT TIMES. HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE REGION LATER SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY. THE REST OF THE PERIOD WILL BE QUIET WITH A CHANCE OF LIGHT SNOW LATER IN THE WEEK. && .AVIATION...CEILINGS AND VISIBILITIES WILL LOWER TONIGHT AS LOW LEVEL MOISTURE ARRIVES FROM THE SOUTH. IN ADDITION...FREEZING DRIZZLE MAY PRODUCE HAZARDS TO AIRCRAFT WITHOUT DEICING EQUIPMENT. && .GRB WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... NONE. && $$ RDM/ECKBERG

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GAYLORD MI
1154 PM EST THU DEC 20 2007 .AVIATION...MID/HIGH CLOUDS ACROSS NORTHERN MI OVERNIGHT...SOME ST OVER LAKE HURON MAY IMPACT APN THIS EVENING. CLOUD COVER AND PERSISTENT SOUTHEAST FLOW MAY IMPACT FOG POTENTIAL AT TERMINAL SITES OVERNIGHT. CEILINGS WILL LOWER DURING THE DAY FRIDAY... PREVAILING MVFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED. SOME DRIZZLE OR LIGHT RAIN POSSIBLE DURING THE AFTERNOON. JPB && .UPDATE... /ISSUED 1002 PM EST THU DEC 20 2007/ BROAD WARM ADVECTION PATTERN IN PLACE ACROSS THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES THIS EVENING...WITH VEERING WINDS FROM THE SURFACE (SOUTHEAST) UP THROUGH 500MB (WEST-SOUTHWEST). RADAR RETURNS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING WITHIN THIS PATTERN ACROSS LAKE MICHIGAN/FAR WESTERN LOWER MI...WEST AND SOUTHWEST INTO WI/NORTHERN IL WITHIN AN AXIS OF STEEPER MID LEVEL LAPSE RATES. LOW LAYERS ARE DRIER FARTHER NORTH AND EAST PER 00Z APX/DTX/GRB SOUNDINGS...WITH A DRY WEDGE OF AIR BELOW 700MB...WHILE AIRCRAFT SOUNDINGS OUT OF WESTERN UPPER/ NORTHWEST WI INDICATING A MORE SATURATED COLUMN. LOW ST DECK HANGING IN ACROSS FAR EASTERN UPPER AND CLIPPING NORTHEAST LOWER AROUND PZQ-APN. LOW LEVEL DRY AIR EXPECTED TO REMAIN GENERALLY INTACT OVERNIGHT GIVEN UPSTREAM CONDITIONS AND PERSISTENT SOUTHEAST/SOUTH LOW LEVEL FLOW. SO WILL KEEP THE FORECAST DRY...EXPECTING AS LOW LEVEL MOISTURE EVIDENT ON MPX/DVN/ILX SOUNDINGS WORKS INTO THE AREA FRIDAY DRIZZLE OR LIGHT RAIN WILL BE MORE OF AN ISSUE. THUS FAR TEMPERATURE/DEW POINT SPREADS HAVE REMAINED FAIRLY CONSISTENT (GENERALLY 4-8 DEGREES)...CLOUDS/WINDS EXPECTED TO REMAIN PERSISTENT THROUGH THE NIGHT. HIGHER TERRAIN AREAS MOST PROBABLE AREAS TO SEE SOME FOG DEVELOPMENT OVERNIGHT DUE TO UPSLOPE FLOW. JPB PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 409 PM EST THU DEC 20 2007/ RATHER FLAT SHORTWAVE RIDGE ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES TONIGHT WITH SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE SLIDING EAST OF AREA. A WEAK SHORTWAVE TROF OVER WISCONSIN WILL MOVE TOWARD THE WESTERN LAKES TONIGHT...BUT WITH NO UPPER SUPPORT AND LIMITED MOISTURE...WILL LIKELY ONLY PRODUCE MID/HIGH CLOUDS. ONE EXCEPTION WILL BE OVER NORTHERN CHIPPEWA COUNTY...WHERE A FEW FLURRIES WILL BE POSSIBLE CLOSER TO THE VORTICITY CENTER. DIFFICULT CALL ON FOG/STRATUS OVERNIGHT. FORECAST SOUNDINGS WOULD SAY LITTLE IF ANY FOG/STRATUS OVERNIGHT WITH JUST SOME VERY SHALLOW MOISTURE BELOW 950MB. SURFACE GRADIENT WILL BE SOMEWHAT STRONGER THAN LAST NIGHT BUT WITH RIDGING ALOFT AND BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE FROM MELTED SNOW...WE STILL COULD SEE SOME RE-DEVELOPMENT OVERNIGHT. LIGHT S/SE LOW LEVEL FLOW WILL ADVECT SLIGHTLY HIGHER DEW POINT AIR FROM LAKE HURON...AND IT APPEARS BEST CHANCE OF STRATUS WOULD BE ACROSS THE HIGHER TERRAIN OF NORTHERN LOWER MICHIGAN EASTWARD TOWARD LAKE HURON. EVEN WITHOUT THE STRATUS...PLENTY OF MID/HIGH CLOUDS OVERNIGHT ASSOCIATED WITH WEAK SHORTWAVE ENERGY SLIDING IN FROM THE WEST. ALL OF THE CLOUDS WILL KEEP TEMPERATURES IN THE 20S FOR ALL AREAS. JK FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT...A COUPLE OF ITEMS OF CONCERN IN THIS PERIOD. FOR THE MORNING...SHALLOW MOISTURE BELOW 950MB...SLIGHTLY DEEPER DOWNWIND OF LAKE HURON WILL LEAD TO SOME LOW CLOUDS AND FOG ACROSS THE REGION. THE DEEPER MOISTURE DOWNWIND OF LAKE HURON WOULD CALL FOR STRATUS...WHILE OTHER AREAS WOULD TREND MORE TOWARD FOG. FORECAST SOUNDINGS DO NOT SHOW AS MUCH DRY AIR ALOFT TO HELP PROMOTE COOLING OF THE VERY SHALLOW MOISTURE...AND TEMPS THURSDAY DID NOT REALLY CLIMB AS HIGH FOR ADDITIONAL SNOW MELT AND ADDED MOISTURE TO THE BOUNDARY LAYER. WOULD STILL EXPECT PATCHY FOG TO DEVELOP...AND WILL GO WITH THAT IDEA FOR THE MORNING. IN THE AFTERNOON...A BAND OF DEEPER LOW LEVEL MOISTURE AHEAD OF WEAK WARM FRONTAL SIGNATURE WILL BRING AN AXIS OF HIGHER H8 TD`S NORTHWARD INTO NRN MICHIGAN IN THE LATE AFTERNOON. FORECAST SOUNDINGS ARE SHOWING THIS MOISTURE ADVECTION...TO BECOME AS DEEP AS 800MB AND WARMER THAN -5C. AREAS OF DRIZZLE STILL LOOKING GOOD...AND SEE NO REASON TO SWAY FROM CURRENT FORECAST. PERIODS OF DRIZZLE LOOK TO CONTINUE INTO FRIDAY NIGHT...UNDER PERSISTENT WARN ADVECTION. TEMPERATURES TO REACH THE LOW TO MID 30S AGAIN FRIDAY...BUT AS WARM ADVECTION/WARM FRONTAL SIGNATURE SURGES NORTH...LITTLE NOCTURNAL DROP IN TEMPS ARE EXPECTED. SLIGHT DROP IN THE EVENING POSSIBLE...THEN JUST INCHING UPWARD BY DAYBREAK. SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT...SORT OF A DIFFICULT TIME FRAME FOR THE ACTUAL WEATHER THAT WILL OCCUR...BUT IMPACTS ARE BECOMING MORE LIKELY TO BE MINIMAL. SECONDARY SURGE OF MOISTURE ADVECTION SEEN AT H8 MOVING INTO NRN MICHIGAN SATURDAY...WITH INITIAL FORCING FROM UPSTREAM NRN AND SRN STREAM SHORTWAVES ARRIVING IN THE AFTERNOON. ACTUAL MEASURABLE RAINFALL MORE LIKELY...AND WILL KEEP 70 PERCENT CHANCES. HOWEVER...IT SHOULD BE LIGHT...AND WILL JUST CARRY PERIODS OF LIGHT RAIN...DRIZZLE AND FOG. SFC TD`S WILL BE REACHING THE 33-35F RANGE...WHICH ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO RESULT IN FOG DEVELOPMENT...ESPECIALLY OVER SNOW PACK. THE SNOW COVER WILL TEMPER POTENTIAL WARM SFC TEMP READINGS...AND AM EXPECTING A RATHER DREARY...DAMP AND COOL DAY WITH HIGHS IN THE 36-41 RANGE. THIS WEATHER WILL CONTINUE THROUGH MUCH OF THE NIGHT...AS FEEL RATHER CONFIDENT THAT TEMPS WILL STAY WARM THROUGH THE MIDNIGHT HOUR. OVERNIGHT SATURDAY NIGHT...THE NRN AND SRN STREAM NOW SERIOUSLY LOOK TO PHASE WITH ONE ANOTHER...AS NEARLY EVERY MODEL SUGGESTING THIS VERY THING. ALWAYS HAVE RESERVATIONS WITH SUCH A SCENARIO...PARTICULARLY SURROUNDING THE LOCATION OF LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER...THE CONSENSUS IS FOR LOW PRESSURE TO RAPIDLY DEVELOP/DEEPEN FROM SRN LAKE MICHIGAN UP THROUGH THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN UPPER MICHIGAN REGION. STRONG COLD ADVECTION BEGINS TO WRAP INTO NRN MICHIGAN FROM THE SOUTHWEST...AND ANY DRIZZLE/LIGHT RAIN WILL CHANGE OVER TO SNOW. ALTHOUGH WOULD NOT GET TOO CUTE WITH THIS IN THE FORECAST...WOULD SEE THE ONSET OF THIS WITH ARRIVAL OF MID LEVEL DRY SLOT/BAND OF SNOW TRACKING NORTHEAST ACROSS THE CWA. THAT EVOLUTION REMAINS TO BE SEEN. WILL BRING AN ALL SNOW CHANCE TO THE SW CWA 09-12Z. SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT...UPPER TROUGH BECOMES NEGATIVELY TILTED AND THE SFC LOW DEEPENS AS LOW AS 986MB OR SO AS IT SHIFTS ACROSS SE ONTARIO. WITHOUT GREAT ENOUGH CONFIDENCE IN THE EXACT TRACK OF THE SFC LOW...DEEP WRAP AROUND MOISTURE IN DEFORMATION ZONE ON NW FLANK OF THE SFC LOW OBVIOUSLY IN QUESTION TOO. AS IT STANDS NOW...BEST CHANCE FOR ACCUMULATING SNOWFALL WILL RESIDE ACROSS CENTRAL UPPER MICHIGAN AND WISCONSIN. SEVERAL INCHES OF SNOWFALL ARE POSSIBLE THERE. ACROSS NRN MICHIGAN...THE UPPER LEVEL COLD CORE ARRIVES...AND WE LOOK TO HAVE MORE CELLULAR/CONVECTIVE TYPE SNOW SHOWERS WITH LAKE ENHANCEMENT. WINDS DO SHIFT DECENTLY THROUGH THIS TIME...BUT AT LEAST A PERIOD OF RATHER VIGOROUS SNOWFALL IS EXPECTED MOST AREAS. CONVECTIVE SNOW SHOWERS ALONE CAN RESULT IN POOR VISIBILITY...AND WHEN COMBINED WITH STRONG AND GUSTY WSW WINDS...CAN CERTAINLY SEE THE NEED FOR WINTER WEATHER HEADLINES. TOMORROW MAY ANSWER THE QUESTION...AS TO WHICH HEADLINE WE`LL NEED. ACCUMULATIONS WILL HOPEFULLY BECOME A LITTLE CLEARER TOO. EXPECT HAZARDOUS WEATHER/DRIVING CONDITIONS ON SUNDAY...FOR HOLIDAY TRAVELERS. LATER PERIODS...A PERIOD OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS WITH NICE CYCLONIC CONVERGENCE STILL EXPECTED ON BACKSIDE OF THIS STORM WHICH MAY CONTINUE THROUGH MONDAY. DRY AIR FEEDS INTO THE REGION BY MONDAY NIGHT...LIMITING SNOWFALL/ACCUMULATION POTENTIAL. MODEL ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE HEADING INTO LATER TIME PERIODS. ONE THING MAY BE TAKEN FROM THE PATTERN...THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ANY MAJOR WEATHER SYSTEMS TUESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY...AT LEAST FOR NOW. MARINE...LOW END MARINE ISSUES TO CONTEND WITH...AS 950MB WINDS CLIMBING TO 25 KNOTS OR SO...BUT THIS GUSTS POTENTIAL WILL BE TEMPERED BY INCREASING STABILITY OVER THE LAKES. WENT AHEAD AND ISSUED A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY THROUGH FRIDAY...ALTHOUGH EXTENSIONS MAY BE NEEDED AS 950MB WINDS CONTINUE TO INCREASE THROUGH THE WEEKEND. STRONGER MARINE HEADLINES CERTAINLY TO BE NEEDED BY SUNDAY AS THE COLD AIR PLOWS INTO THE REGION. SMD && .APX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...NONE. LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 5 AM TO 6 PM EST FRIDAY FOR LMZ341. LH...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 5 AM TO 6 PM EST FRIDAY FOR LHZ346. LS...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM EST FRIDAY FOR LSZ321. && $$

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
952 AM EST FRI DEC 21 2007 .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE OVER EASTERN QUEBEC. A WEAK AREA OF LOW PRESSURE OVER EASTERN TENNESSEE WILL MOVE EAST TO THE SOUTH CAROLINA COAST. A STRONG COLD FRONT IS EXPECTED TO MOVE ACROSS THE AREA SUNDAY AFTERNOON. HIGH PRES OVER THE REGION CHRISTMAS DAY. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... WATER VAPOR LOOP SHOWS A SHORT WAVE MOVING OFF THE GEORGIA COAST...AS THE NEXT DISTURBANCE DIGS INTO THE 4 CORNERS REGION. ACARS 400-250MB WIND OBSERVATIONS REVEAL THE LACTATION OF THE UPPER TROUGH IS FROM MICHIGAN SOUTHEAST INTO GEORGIA. A 100-140KT SOUTHWESTERLY JET EXTENDS FROM THE FOUR CORNERS REGION INTO THE MIDWEST. 11Z SURFACE ANALYSIS PLACED A 1006MB CYCLONE ALONG THE GEORGIA COAST...WITH FRONTAL BOUNDARY SOUTHWEST ACROSS THE GULF OF MEXICO. A 1036MB ANTICYCLONE ACROSS QUEBEC IS DAMMING DOWN THE APPALACHIANS. DIFFERENTIAL ADVECTION ONGOING WITH MID LEVEL WARM ADVECTION AHEAD OF UPPER LEVEL TROUGH ENTERING WEST VIRGINIA...AND LOW LEVEL COOL ADVECTION WILL RAMP UP LATER THIS AFTERNOON FROM THE NORTHEAST. AS A RESULT OF THE DIFFERENTIAL ADVECTION...LIGHT AREAS OF RAIN WILL BE POSSIBLE THIS AFTERNOON. CLOUD COVER IN DAMMING SIGNATURE WILL YIELD LITTLE MOVEMENT IN TEMPERATURES...WENT ON THE COLD SIDE OF GUIDANCE. && .SHORT TERM / SATURDAY THROUGH 6 AM SATURDAY/... AREA REMAINS DAMMED OVRNGT. NE FLOW...LO CLDS...LTL DIURNAL FLUX W/ TEMPS. L- IS PSBL IN THE ERN PART OF THE CWA AFTR MDNGT. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/... STRONG HIGH PRES OVR NEW ENGLAND WILL DRIFT OFFSHORE WITH WINDS TURNING MORE OUT OF THE ESE WHICH WILL LIKELY SUPPORT AREAS OF LIGHT RAIN/DRIZZLE/FOG ESPECIALLY ALONG AND WEST OF THE BLUE RIDGE MTNS SAT AND SAT NIGHT. NEXT AREA OF LOW PRES OVER THE MID SOUTH SAT AFTERNOON WILL INTENSIFY AS IT TRACKS NNE INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST BY SUN MORNING. SRLY WINDS WILL STRENGHTEN SUN AFTERNOON AHEAD OF SHARP CDFNT. MODEL GUIDANCE INDICATING STRONG WINDS JUST ABV THE SFC WITH 35-40 KTS BETWEEN 1-2KFT. WILL HAVE TO CONSIDER GALE WARNING FOR THE WATERS GIVEN CHANNELING AND MAGNITUDE OF WINDS. SHOWALTER INDEX FCST NEGATIVE AND CAPE FCST UP TO 150 J/KG EAST OF THE I-95 CORRIDOR SO I WOULDN`T RULED OUT SOME TSTMS. GFES ENSEMBLE DATA SHOWING BETTER AGREEMENT IN ANOTHER POTENT SYSTEM ON WED NIGHT AND EARLY THU. FCST TRACK OF LOW AND LACK OF ANY SIG COLD AIR SUGGEST THIS WILL LIKELY BE A RAIN EVENT. && .AVIATION /15Z FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/... VFR CEILINGS/SPOTTY MVFR VISIBILITIES MID MORNING WILL DEGRADE DURING THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING AS LOW LEVEL COLD ADVECTION ENHANCES SATURATED DAMMED SIGNATURE FROM THE NORTHEAST. IFR CONDITIONS SAT/SAT NIGHT IMPROVING TO MVFR SUN AFTERNOON. SHARP CDFNT EXPECTED TO CROSS THE AREA LATE SUN AFTERNOON. SRLY WINDS AHEAD OF THE FRONT COULD GUST UP TO 35 KTS. && .MARINE... GRADIENT BETWEEN LOW OFF OF GEORGIA AND HIGH OFF OVER NEW ENGLAND WILL SUPPORT EAST WINDS UP TO 15KTS THIS AFTERNOON. SOLID SCA CONDITIONS SUN. GALE CONDITIONS POSSIBLE SUN AFTERNOON IF BETTER MIXING IS REALIZED GIVEN MAGNITUDE OF WINDS JUST ABV THE SFC. && .TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING... WILL HAVE TO MONITOR WATER LEVELS AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT LATE SUNDAY AS E/SE FLOW WILL BE PERSISTENT UNDER A FULL MOON AND WATER LEVELS ARE CURRENTLY A HALF FOOT ABOVE ASTRONOMIC LEVELS. && .LWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... DC...NONE. MD...NONE. VA...NONE. WV...NONE. MARINE...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...WOODY! NEAR TERM...ROGOWSKI SHORT TERM...WOODY! LONG TERM...ROSA AVIATION...ROGOWSKI/ROSA MARINE...ROGOWSKI/ROSA TIDES/COASTAL FLOODING...ROGOWSKI