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{10:30:28 NSP} (PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE: THE SENATE WILL COME TO ORDER.
TODAY'S PRAYER WILL BE OFFERED BY OUR GUEST CHAPLAIN, THE
REVEREND DR. JAMES E. OLSON, FAITH EVANGELICAL FREE CHURCH,
FORT COLLINS, COLORADO. AND HE'S A GUEST OF SENATOR WAYNE
ALLARD.
{10:30:50 NSP} (THE GUEST CHAPLAIN) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE GUEST CHAPLAIN: OUR GOD, YOU HAVE BEEN OUR HEARTS' TRUE
HOME IN ALL GENERATIONS. FROM EVERLASTING TO EVERLASTING YOU
ALONE ARE THERE AND SINGULARLY SOVEREIGN. WE ARE NOT. OUR
HEARTS ARE FRAGILE AND WEAKENED BY FEARS. OUR LIVES, EVEN IN
THEIR PRIME, ARE WEIGHTED WITH LABOR AND SORROW. WE, THEREFORE,
TURN TO YOU FOR THE STRENGTH BEYOND OURSELVES THAT IS NEEDED
TODAY. INSTILL IN THE WOMEN AND MEN OF THIS SENATE, WHOM YOU
{10:31:20} (THE GUEST CHAPLAIN) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
HAVE ENTRUSTED WITH HIGH RESPONSIBILITY, AN INTENSITY THAT
KEEPS ON CARING. GRANT THEM WISDOM FOR SOUND JUDGMENT IN THE
FACE OF CONSTANT CPLEXITY. PROMPT CONSIDERATE WORDS THAT THEY
MAY RELATE TO EACH OTHER RIGHTLY THIS DAY, THAT THEY MAY
ENCOURAGE LOVED ONES AND STAFF AT THE CLOSE OF THE DAY, AND
THAT THEY MAY PRESENT TO YOU A HEART OF WISDOM ON THE LAST DAY.
LET YOUR FAVOR BE UPON THIS SENATE IN DOING WHAT IS RIGHT AND
DO CONFIRM FOR THEM THE WORK OF THEIR HANDS "THAT WE MAY LEAD A
{10:31:52} (THE GUEST CHAPLAIN) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
TRANQUIL AND QUIET LIFE IN ALL GODLINESS AND A DIGNITY. IN THE
STRONG NAME OF OUR LORD. AMEN.
TEM THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM COLORADO IS RECOGNIZED. --
{10:32:25 NSP} (PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE: THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM
COLORADO IS RECOGNIZED.
{10:32:30 NSP} (MR. ALLARD) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
MR. ALLARD: MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO PERSONALLY WELCOME
THE GUEST CHAPLAIN TODAY. DR. JAMES OGILVIE, WHO IS FROM MY
HOME STATE OF COLORADO. I WANT TO ALSO THANK DR. LLOYD OGILVIE
FOR HIS GRACIOUSNESS AND WELCOME HIM HERE TO THE SENATE. I
THINK WE'RE BLESSED TO. I WOULD SAY THIS. JOAN, MY WIFE, AND I
ARE BOTH BLESSED THAT WE HAVE INSPIRATIONAL LEADERS BOTH HERE
IN WASHINGTON AND BACK IN MY HOME STATE OF COLORADO. DR. LLOYD
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OGILVIE IS SOMEBODY WHO WE REALLY RESPECT AND VALUE AND LOOK TO
HIM FOR OUR SPIRITUAL LEADERSHIP. DR. JAMES OLSON IS NOT ONLY A
SPIRITUAL LEADER FOR MY WIFE AND I IN COLORADO, BUT THE FAMILY.
I JUST WANT TO STATE IN A PUBLIC MANNER HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE
HIS LEADERSHIP AND HOW MUCH AS A FAMILY WE APPRECIATE WHAT HE
DOES FOR US. HE'S NOT ONLY PERSONALLY SERVED THE ALLARD FAMILY,
{10:33:36} (MR. ALLARD) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
BUT HE HAS PERSONALLY SERVED THE COMMUNITY OF FORT COLLINS,
COLORADO. HE'S TAKEN AN ACTIVE PART IN THAT COMMUNITY AS A
RELIGIOUS LEADER. IN HIS SERMONS IN THE FAITH EVANGELICAL FREE
CHURCH OF FORT COLLINS, HE HAS BEEN A LEADER ON AFFAIRS BEFORE
OUR COUNTRY. AND I THINK HE'S BEEN A VOICE OF REASON FOR THE
CONGREGATION AND ONE OF BALANCE. I'VE ALWAYS APPRECIATED HIS
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MESSAGE ON SUNDAYS WHEN EVER WE'VE ATTENDED HIS CHURCH. I THINK
THAT HE HAS STRENGTHENED THE SPIRITUAL COMMUNITY IN FORT
COLLINS, AND PARTICULARLY THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY. I JUST WANT
TO RECOGNIZE IN A PUBLIC WAY ALL HIS LEADERSHIP IN COLORADO,
AND PARTICULARLY HIS COMMUNITY. I THINK HE TYPIFIES THE
LEADERSHIP THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY OF MANY OF OUR COMMUNITY
PASTORS AND RELIGIOUS LEADERS. SOMETIMES I DON'T THINK WE
RECOGNIZE THEM LIKE WE SHOULD. THEY ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF
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WHAT GOES ON IN THIS COUNTRY. THEY ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF
WHAT AMERICA IS ALL ABOUT. IT'S WITH A GREAT DEAL OF PLEASURE
THAT I WELCOME DR. JAMES OGILVIE TO THE SENATE AND LET HIM KNOW
HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE HIS PRAYER THIS MORNING AND WISH BOTH
HIS WIFE, CAROL, AND HIM THE VERY BEST. I'M GLAD THAT THEY
COULD TAKE TIME OUT OF THEIR RELIGIOUS LIVES TO COME TO
WASHINGTON AND BE A PART OF THE SENATE TODAY. MR. PRESIDENT,
THIS MORNING THERE WILL BE A PERIOD OF
MORNING BUSINESS UNTIL 11:00 A.M. FOLLOWING MORNING BUSINESS,
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THE SENATE WILL RESUME CONSIDERATION OF S. 4, THE SOLDIERS,
SAILORS, AIRMEN AND MARINEERS BILL OF RIGHTS OF 1999.
AT 12:00 NOON THE SENATE WILL
RECESS UNTIL 2:15 TO ALLOW THE WEEKLY PARTY LUNCHEONS TO MEET.
FOLLOWING THE LUNCHEONS THE SENATE WILL RESUME CONSIDERATION OF
S. 4, WITH AMENDMENTS EXPECTED TO BE OFFERED AND DEBATED. ROLL
CALL VOTES ARE POSSIBLE THROUGHOUT TODAY'S SESSION, AND MEMBERS
WILL BE NOTIFIED OF THE VOTING SCHEDULE WHEN IT BECOMES
AVAILABLE. I THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR ATTENTION. I YIELD
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BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.
{10:35:51 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDER, THE LEADERSHIP
TIME IS RESERVED. UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDER, THERE WILL BE NOW A
PERIOD FOR THE TRANSACTION OF MORNING BUSINESS FOR NOT TO
EXCEED
BEYOND THE HOUR OF 11:00. UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDER, THE SENATOR
FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE, MR. SMITH, IS RECOGNIZED FOR UP TO 20
MINUTES.
{10:36:09 NSP} (MR. SMITH) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
MR. SMITH: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK
UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ONE OF MY STAFF, MR. JIM DAHONEY, BE
GRANTED FLOOR PRIVILEGES DURING MY REMARKS THIS MORNING.
{10:36:26 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.
{10:36:29 NSP} (MR. SMITH) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
MR. SMITH: MR. PRESIDENT, IT'S PERHAPS -- AS PERHAPS PRESIDENT
REAGAN WOULD SAY, HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION NOW
ON THE VERGE OF MAKING COMMITMENTS OF AMERICAN FORCES IN
ANOTHER 9-1-1 HUMANITARIAN CRISIS AROUND THE WORLD WITHOUT THE
APPROVAL OF CONGRESS. AS WE SIT AND STAND HERE THIS VERY
MORNING, WE ARE POISED FOR AIRSTRIKES AGAINST A SOVEREIGN
NATION -- THE SOVEREIGN NATION OF YUGOSLAVIA. GIVEN THE
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APPARENT FAILURE OF THE TALKS IN FRANCE REGARDING THE ISSUE OF
THE PEACEKEEPING FORCE, THERE IS A REAL POSSIBILITY THAT
AIRSTRIKES MAY BE IMMINENT AND THAT AMERICAN FORCES, AS PART OF
A U.N. FORCE, MAY VERY WELL BE COMMITTED INTO KOSOVO. I WOULD
VENTURE TO SAY THAT MANY AMERICANS WOULD BE HARD PRESSED TO
FIND KOSOVO ON A MAP. YET, HERE AGAIN, OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS
ARE GOING TO BE ASKED TO PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE FOR THIS
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ADMINISTRATION WITHOUT AN ACT OF CONGRESS OR WITHOUT ANY
DECLARATION OF WAR, PUTTING AMERICAN FORCES IN HARM'S WAY ONCE
AGAIN. MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS VERY, VERY DISTURBING. I'VE
SPOKEN OUT IN THE PAST ON THIS. I SPOKE OUT AGAINST THE BOSNIA
OPERATION, AND I'VE SPOKEN OUT AGAINST HAITI AND SOME OF THE
OTHERS. BUT THIS, MR. PRESIDENT, IS THE LAST STRAW FOR ME. I'M
GOING TO INTRODUCE A BILL LATER ON TODAY TO ENSURE THAT
CONGRESS EXERCISES ITS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT OF APPROVAL BEFORE
{10:38:09} (MR. SMITH) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THIS ADMINISTRATION COMMITS US TO AN ACT OF WAR AGAINST A
SOVEREIGN NATION. WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING OFFENSIVE MILITARY
ACTION. I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT
THERE OUGHT TO BE ANY TROOPS IN ANY SOVEREIGN NATION UNLESS
THERE'S AN ACT OF WAR OR, IF NOT THAT FAR, AT LEAST AN
AUTHORIZATION, SPECIFICALLY GRANTED BY CONGRESS. SO I WILL BE
INTRODUCING A RESOLUTION LATER ON TODAY THAT SAYS THERE WILL BE
NO TROOPS COMMITTED IN ANY FORCE OF ANY KIND WITHOUT A SPECIFIC
{10:38:40} (MR. SMITH) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
AUTHORIZATION FROM THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS. I'M GOING TO
CALL ON MY COLLEAGUES TO JOIN ME IN THIS EFFORT BEFORE WE AGAIN
GET EMBROILED INTO ANOTHER LONG-TERM CONFLICT THAT IS NOT IN
THE U.S. INTEREST. I WANT TO MAKE A FEW POINTS ABOUT IT. MR.
PRESIDENT, AT THIS POINT I WOULD ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE
REMARKS THAT I'M GIVING HERE THIS MORNING BE PLACED IN THE
RECORD NEXT TO THAT RESOLUTION WHEN THE RESOLUTION IS
INTRODUCED.
{10:39:14 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.
{10:39:16 NSP} (MR. SMITH) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
MR. SMITH: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS ADMINISTRATION
APPARENTLY HAS NO CONCERN, THINKS NOTHING OF COMMITTING AN ACT
OF WAR WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL APPROVAL. COMMIT TROOPS
FIRST, COME TO US LATER AND ASK FOR OUR SUPPORT. ON THE
CONTRARY, IF YOU REMEMBER PRESIDENT BUSH DURING THE PERSIAN
GULF WAR -- A VERY RISKY MOVE ON THE PRESIDENT'S PART. HE
WANTED TO GO INTO IRAQ. HE WANTED TO STOP IRAQ FROM MOVING INTO
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KUWAIT. AND HE CAME TO THE CONGRESS AND A SPLIT CONGRESS, A
DIVIDED SENATE, THAT VARIED BY FOUR OR -- BY JUST FOUR OR FIVE
VOTES GAVE HIM THE RIGHT TO DO THAT. BUT HE CAME HERE. HE TOOK
HIS CHANCE. HE DID THE RIGHT THING. THAT'S NOT HAPPENING NOW.
WHILE THIS BODY HAS BEEN WRESTLING WITH IMPEACHMENT
PROCEEDINGS, THE ADMINISTRATION, THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION --
PRESIDENT CLINTON'S ADMINISTRATION -- HAS BEEN PREPARING TO
WAGE WAR WAR. I WANT TO REPEAT THAT. WE WERE TIED DOWN IN THIS
PLACE FOR ALMOST TWO MONTHS TALKING ABOUT THE IMPEACHMENT OF
{10:40:20} (MR. SMITH) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. AND WHILE WE WERE DOING
THAT, THE SAME PRESIDENT THAT WAS NEARLY REMOVED FROM OFFICE
WAS PREPARING TO WAGE WAR AGAINST A SOVEREIGN NATION WITHOUT
CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUS, MR.
PRESIDENT, AND I'M NOT GOING TO STAND BY ANY LONGER AND BE
SILENT ON THIS. THE ADMINISTRATION HAS CRAFTED A PLAN TO FIX
THE INTERNAL PROBLEMS OF A SOVEREIGN STATE. ARE THESE PROBLEMS
SEVERE?
IS THERE HORRIBLE, TERRIBLE THINGS GOING ON THERE?
{10:40:51} (MR. SMITH) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
ARE THERE HORRIBLE, TERRIBLE THINGS GOING ON?
YES, OF COURSE THERE. AND IT PRECEDES THEN TO HOLD A SO-CALLED
PEACE CONFERENCE WHERE IT THREATENS TO USE LETHAL FORCE AGAINST
A SOVEREIGN STATE IF THEY DON'T ACCEPT THE DEAL. THE TWO
PARTIES AREN'T EVEN INTERESTED IN AN AGREEMENT. THEY STILL WANT
TO FIGHT. THEY HAVE BEEN FIGHTING IN THAT REGION OF THE WORLD
FOR CENTURIES. SO WE JAM AN AGREEMENT DOWN THEIR THROATS. THE
ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN WE DO THIS. AND AT
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BEST, WE'RE DELAYING THIS. AND HERE COME U.S. FORCES AGAIN IN
HARM'S WAY, WITH NO WORD FROM CONGRESS. NOTHING. BEFORE WE SEND
OUR TROOPS TO ANOTHER DANGEROUS PART OF THE WORLD, WHICH THIS
PRESIDENT SEEMS PRONE TO DO, FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, WE HAVE
A SACRED RESPONSIBILITY TO THESE MEN AND WOMEN TO CONSIDER THE
RISKS OF THIS. WE DIDN'T FIGHT AND WIN THE COLD WAR SO THAT THE
AS THE SOLE REMAINING SUPERPOWER IN THE WORLD WE SHOULD GET
BOGGED DOWN IN PARTS OF THE WORLD THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF
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AMERICANS HAVE NEVER HEARD OF. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO LEARN?
DIDN'T WE LEARN FROM SOMALIA?
A TOTAL DISASTER IN SOMALIA. INNOCENT LIVES KILLED BECAUSE WE
COULDN'T EVEN GET ENOUGH SUPPORT TO GET A TANK OR AN ARMORED
VEHICLE IN TO HELP PEOPLE TRAPPED DOWN BY A BUNCH OF
TERRORISTS, COMMON CRIMINALS. WE HAD TO DEPEND ON ANOTHER
NATION TO GET SOME ARMORED VEHICLES IN TO GET THEM OUT. THAT'S
WHAT THIS ADMINISTRATION DID IN SOMALIA. AND BEFORE ANY
DISCUSSION OF SENDING THE AMERICAN MILITARY TO KOSOVO CAN
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BEGIN, WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES WHETHER THIS SITUATION AFFECTS
AMERICA'S INTERESTS. AND IT DOESN'T. WHERE IS EUROPE?
KOSOVO IS AS MUCH A PART OF YUGOSLAVIA AS NEW HAMPSHIRE IS OF
THE UNITED STATES. WE'RE DICTATING UNDER THE THREAT OF AMERICAN
MILITARY ACTION THE INTERNAL POLICY OF YUGOSLAVIA, A POLICY
THAT I DESPISE, THAT I HATE, THAT I'M UPSET ABOUT. BUT DO WE
HAVE THAT RIGHT WITHOUT AN ACT OF WAR OR SOME AUTHORIZATION
FROM CONGRESS?
{10:43:04} (MR. SMITH) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
WE MAY NOT LIKE IT. IT MAY BE HORRIBLE, BUT IT'S NOT A REASON
TO GO TO WAR. SHOULD WE GO TO WAR IN ZIMBABWE OR SOME OTHER --
ETHIOPIA OR SOME OTHER NATION WHERE SOME OTHER PROBLEMS ARE
OCCURRING THAT WE DON'T LIKE?
WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE?
THE ADMINISTRATION TELLS US THAT WE MUST BECOME INVOLVED IN THE
INTERNAL AFFAIRS OF A SOVEREIGN NATION TO SPREAD -- TO STOP THE
-- TO SPREEVENT THE SPREAD OF THIS CONFLICT IN THE NEIGHBORING
NATIONS, INCLUDING PERHAPS NATO MEMBERS. IT MOVES MEANT TO
{10:43:35} (MR. SMITH) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
SCARE US INTO RESOLVING THE CONFLICT WITH THE AMERICAN
MILITARY. THIS ARGUMENT IS FALSE AND OBSCURES THE REAL INTEREST
OF PLACING TROOPS ARISK IN AN AREA OF THE WORLD WHERE WE HAVE
NO REAL INTEREST TO JUSTIFY DIRECT INTERVENTION. FRANKLY, I'M
TIRED OF IT. I'M TIRED OF RISKING AMERICAN LIVES WHEN WE DON'T
HAVE AMERICAN INTERESTS AT STAKE. THE PRECEDENT WE WOULD BE
SETTING BY INTERVENING IN KOSOVO IS MORE DANGEROUS TO AMERICAN
INTERESTS THAN THE SMALL RISK THIS CONFLICT IS GOING TO SPREAD
SOMEWHERE. WHAT OTHER TROUBLED BALKAN REGION WILL WE GO TO NEXT?
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MONTENEGRO?
MACEDONIA?
WHERE DO WE STOP, MR. PRESIDENT. THERE WAS A LETTER IN THE
WASHINGTON ON FEBRUARY 20 WRITTEN BY A NAME OF ALAN DRAGNICH.
HE SAID -- QUOTE -- "WE ARE THREATENING TO BOMB THE SERBS
BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO ACCEPT AN AGREEMENT WHICH WE HAVE
CRAFTED TO RESOF A DOMESTIC CONFLICT INSIDE YUGOSLAVIA AND TO
PERMIT THE ENTRANCE OF NATO TROOPS TO ENFORCE IT." THAT'S WHAT
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THIS IS ABOUT. "MORE SERIOUS," "HE SAYS, "IN THE LONG RUN WILL
BE THE PRECEDENTS WE WOULD BE CREATING. OUR ACTIONS WOULD
PROVIDE ARGUMENTS TO JUSTIFY POWER, TO PERVADE SOME COUNTRY IN
SEARCH OF POWER FOR A MINORITY. THIS COULD BE ARAB STATES
PERHAPS IN AGREEMENT WITH RUSSIA OR CHINA SEEKING TO TAKE OVER
TAIWAN."
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