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000 FXUS04 KWBC 150949 QPFPFD QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 549 AM EDT SUN MAR 15 2009 FINAL DAY 1...DAY 2 AND DAY 3 QPF DISCUSSION VALID MAR 15/1200 UTC THRU MAR 18/1200 UTC REFERENCE AWIPS GRAPHICS UNDER...PRECIP ACCUM - 24HR DAY 1... UPDATED... INVOF THE LWR MS VLY/TN VLY...THE 0000 UTC ECMWF AND CMC SUPPORTED PREVIOUS THINKING OF PCPN BEING DISPLACED FARTHER TO THE NORTH THAN NCEP MODELS ARE FCSTG. WILL CONTINUE TO LEAN IN THAT DIRECTION FOR FINAL DAY1 QPF GIVEN RECENT HISTORY IN THAT REGARD. OTHERWISE...ONLY MINOR CHANGES WERE MADE FM THE PRELIM TO THE FINAL DAY1 QPF PRIMARILY BASED ON CURRENT OBSERVATIONAL DATA. ...NWRN U.S... COMBINATION OF A SHRTWV SWINGING INLAND BY MID PD AND INTENSE WLY LOW TO MID LVL ONSHORE FLOW SHOULD BRING VERY HVY PCPN TOTALS TO THE PAC NW THIS PD. MODEL QPFS ARE IN VERY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH DETAILS..MODELING THE HEAVIEST PCPN TOTALS TO THE ASOCTD FRONTAL BAND AS IT SINKS SWD TO A PSN NEAR SWRN OR/NERN CA BY SUNDAY EVNG. IN ADDITION..SGFNT POST FRONTAL SHWR ACTVTY IS EXPECTED AS ADDITIONAL SHRTWV ENERGY SWINGS ACROSS THE AREA TAPPING A CONTG ONSHORE MSTR FETCH. MDT PCPN AMTS ARE ALSO EXPECTED ACROSS THE MTNS OF ID/NWRN MT/NWRN WY FAVORED BY STRONG WLY OROGRAPHICS. GIVEN THE GOOD MODEL QPF AGREEMENT..STAYED VERY CLOSE TO THEIR GUIDANCE FOR THE FCST. ..WRN GULF REGION/SOUTHEAST U.S... ONE SHRTWV NOW ADVANCING ACROSS THE SERN U.S WILL BE FOLLOWED BY A SECOND SHRTWV FCST TO MOVE TO THE WRN GULF REGION BY THIS EVNG. THE NAM AND GFS QPFS ARE IN REASONABLE AGREEMENT HANDLING THE PCPN WITH THE FIRST SHRTWV EARLY IN THE PD OVR THE SOUTHEAST THOUGH THEY APPEAR THEY WILL BE SHY ON AMTS ON THE NRN EDGE OF THE PCPN SHIELD GIVEN CURRENT OBSERVATIONAL DATA. OF MORE CONCERN IS THEIR HANDLING OF PCPN WITH THE SECOND SHRTWV THIS EVNG AND TNGT. AS WAS THE CASE YDA..THE GFSS OWN RH FCST AND THE ECMWF SUGGEST THE NCEP MODELS WILL AGAIN BE UNDERDONE ON THE NRN SIDE OF THE PCPN SHIELD WHERE FVBL ISENTROPIC LIFT SHOULD BE IN PLACE UNDER A REGION OF FVBL RT ENTRANCE REGION JET DYNAMICS. IN ADDITION..THE GEM REGIONAL QPF INDCS HEAVIER PCPN TOTALS FARTHER TO THE NORTH AND FOR NOW OPTED FOR A MORE NRN DISPLACEMENT THAN THE NCEP MODELS ARE SUGGESTING. FINALLY..GUIDANCE HAS BEEN UNDERESTIMATING PCPN AMTS AND COVERAGE WITH INDIVIDUAL SHRTWVS OVR THE PAST FEW DAYS AND FOR THAT REASON UPPED AMTS SLIGHTLY OVER GUIDANCE. DAYS 2 AND 3... ...SOUTHEAST AND MID-ATL STATES... SIGNIFICANT MODEL SPREAD EXISTS ON THE FORWARD PROGRESSION OF THE SEMI-SPLIT FLOW UPPER TROUGH PUSHING THROUGH THE SOUTHEAST/MID-ATL REGION ON MON BEFORE SLIDING OUT INTO THE ATLANTIC ON TUES. THE ECMWF IS THE SLOWEST SOLUTION W/ NO SUPPORT FROM THE OTHER MODELS... WHILE MOST OF THE OTHER GUIDANCE IS MORE PROGRESSIVE WITH THIS FEATURE. THE FACTORS ON MON IS A POSITIVELY TILTED UPPER TROUGH AND SURFACE COLD FRONT ARRIVING IN A RATHER RICH MOISTURE LADED REGION AND ANOTHER ROUND OF HEAVY RAINFALL/CONVECTION IS EXPECTED. HPC GENERALLY FOLLOWED A BLEND OF THE 00Z GFS/NAM AND 21Z SREF MEAN... SINCE THIS SOLUTION HAD A BIT MORE SUPPORT FROM THE CANADIAN AND UKMET. THIS SHOULD RESULT IN A SOLID STRIPE OF A .50 INCH TO 1 PLUS INCH QPF AMOUNTS FROM SRN MS/AL INTO THE FL PANHANDLE AND NEWRD THROUGH CENTRAL/SRN GA INTO ERN SC/NC ON MON WITH LITTLE IN THE WAY OF MEASURABLE PRECIP ON TUES. ...PAC NW AND NRN INTERMOUNTAIN WEST... THE CONSTANT AND PERSISTENT PAC ONSHORE FLOW INTO THE NW AND SPREADING DOWNSTREAM INTO THE NRN INTER-MOUNTAIN WEST WILL BEGIN TO RELAX AFTER SUN... AS UPPER HEIGHTS BEGIN TO BUILD OVER MUCH OF THE REGION. THIS IS DUE TO A LARGE UPPER VORTEX DIGGING FROM AK SEWRD INTO THE NERN PAC... THUS LOWERING HEIGHTS OVER THE NERN PAC AND ALLOWING THE ONSHORE FETCH AND UPPER JET TO WEAKEN. THE MODEL GUIDANCE IS HANDLING THIS FCST SCENARIO RELATIVELY WELL AND HPC GENERALLY FOLLOWED A BLEND OF THE 00Z ECMWF/GFS AND 21Z SREF MEAN FOR QPF AMOUNTS BOTH DAYS. ON MON... EXPECT THE ONSHORE FLOW TO INUNDATE WA/OR INTO NRN CA AND ENOUGH PAC MOISTURE TRANSPORT TO IMPACT AREAS DOWNSTREAM WITH OROGRAPHIC PRECIP. THEN TUES THE AXIS WILL FOCUS ON WA AND THE NRN PART OF OR INTO THE NRN ROCKIES. ...NRN PLAINS TO GRT LAKES... MARITIME UPPER DYNAMICS EJECTING OUT INTO THE NRN PLAINS/SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA WILL INDUCE A WAVE OF LOW PRESSURE WILL WILL STREAK ACROSS CENTRAL CANADA AND ITS SURFACE COLD FRONT WILL SLIDE THROUGH THE NRN TIER OF THE COUNTRY. GENERALLY AHEAD OF THIS BOUNDARY THERE WILL BE ENOUGH FORCING/LIFT TO PRODUCE SCATTERED LIGHT PRECIP FROM ND/SD EASTWARD INTO THE GRT LAKES. IN FACT... LL MOISTURE WILL BE QUITE SCARCE DUE TO THE MASSIVE SURFACE RIDGE SPRAWLING FROM THE SRN PLAINS INTO THE SOUTHEAST. 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