[NIFL-POVRACELIT:1536] Re: Do we live in a racist and classist society?

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NIFL-POVRACELIT Colleagues,

Correction: The NPR radio program is This American Life.

David J. Rosen

On Sep 12, 2005, at 8:37 AM, David Rosen wrote:

> NIFL-POVRACELIT Colleagues,
>
> The NPR radio program,  All Things Considered, this past weekend  
> had an intensely moving, one-hour piece called "After The Flood"  
> which is pertinent to this discussion.  On many public radio  
> stations it will be re-broadcast this weekend. (See http:// 
> www.thislife.org/  for schedule.)  It is also available through  
> podcasts and, for a nominal cost, directly from NPR.
>
> David J. Rosen
> djrosen@comcast.net
>
> On Sep 9, 2005, at 12:21 PM, Andres Muro wrote:
>
>
>> In light of the UN report and the impact of the hurricane, do we  
>> live in
>> a racist and classist society?
>>
>> Many would argue that we don't because our system does not
>> intentionally take actions to prevent poor people and minorities from
>> improving their social, economic conditions. This argument is
>> questionable, however, assuming that this argument is correct, ie,
>> nobody intentionally discriminates against the poor or minorities,  
>> do we
>> live in a classist, racist society.
>>
>> History, societies and events are no assessed by the intention of the
>> actors, but the consequences of the actions. So, we judge periods of
>> historical times, not by the intentions of Washington, Queen  
>> Elizabeth,
>> GW, Osama, but by the circumstances that were created.
>>
>> Racism and classism are defined as the differential treatment or
>> consequences to a group given by certain circumstances. In other  
>> words,
>> if given some conditions, or events, one group is impacted more
>> negatively than another, then, there are social conditions that  
>> result
>> in the discrimination of the group that suffered adversely.  If the
>> group that suffered more adversity are the poor, then we have a  
>> classist
>> society. If the group that suffered  more adversity are an ethnic
>> minority, then we have racism, and so on and so for. Poverty is  
>> proof of
>> classism, because a group is already suffering adverse conditions  
>> that
>> they cannot overcome. Even if the intention of the society is to  
>> create
>> the conditions for people to overcome poverty, as long as a  
>> significant
>> group cannot overcome it, then we have a classist society.
>>
>> Now, looking at the events in Louisiana, did black people suffered  
>> more
>> adversity than members of other ethnic groups, as a result of the
>> circumstances? the answer is a resounding yes. Therefore, we have a
>> racist society. Even if nobody wants to see blacks suffering and  
>> we all
>> love blacks like we love our moms, the fact that blacks suffered much
>> more adversity than other groups shows that we live in a racist  
>> society.
>>
>>
>> Another thing: racism is not determined from the point of view of  
>> those
>> in power, but from the perspective of the victims. If it were  
>> measured
>> by the point of view of those in power, then they will claim that  
>> we did
>> not have racism, because they did not intend to discriminate.
>>
>> So, given the fact that we do live in a racist society according  
>> to the
>> analysis of the UN report and the consequences of the hurricane,  
>> what do
>> we do? A society must change the conditions so that those that suffer
>> more adversity than others stop suffering more adversity. It is as
>> simple as that. As long as we don't systematically work towards  
>> changing
>> the conditions so that some groups stop experiencing more  
>> adversity, we
>> will continue to be a racist society.
>>
>> So, we can wear the labels proudly and admit that we are a bunch of
>> racists, classists and sexists, or we change the conditions and  
>> create
>> an egalitarian society.
>>
>> What do you all think? How does this relate to literacy? Do  
>> minorities
>> have lower literacy achievement? Does this make us racist?
>>
>> Andres
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> macorley1@earthlink.net 9/8/2005 6:35:48 PM >>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> UN Hits Back at US in Report Saying Parts of America Are as Poor as
>> Third
>> World
>>
>> By Paul Vallely
>>     The Independent UK
>> http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/090805L.shtml
>>     Thursday 08 September 2005
>>
>> Parts of the United States are as poor as the Third World, according
>> to
>> a shocking United Nations report on global inequality.
>>
>> Claims that the New Orleans floods have laid bare a growing racial  
>> and
>> economic divide in the US have, until now, been rejected by the
>> American
>> political establishment as emotional rhetoric. But yesterday's UN
>> report
>> provides statistical proof that for many - well beyond those affected
>> by the
>> aftermath of Hurricane Katrina - the great American Dream is an
>> ongoing
>> nightmare.
>>
>> The document constitutes a stinging attack on US policies at home and
>> abroad in a fightback against moves by Washington to undermine next
>> week's
>> UN 60th anniversary conference which will be the biggest gathering of
>> world
>> leaders in history.
>>
>> The annual Human Development Report normally concerns itself with the
>> Third World, but the 2005 edition scrutinises inequalities in health
>> provision inside the US as part of a survey of how inequality  
>> worldwide
>> is
>> retarding the eradication of poverty.
>>
>> It reveals that the infant mortality rate has been rising in the US
>> for
>> the past five years - and is now the same as Malaysia. America's  
>> black
>> children are twice as likely as whites to die before their first
>> birthday.
>>
>> The report is bound to incense the Bush administration as it provides
>> ammunition for critics who have claimed that the fiasco following
>> Hurricane
>> Katrina shows that Washington does not care about poor black  
>> Americans.
>> But
>> the 370-page document is critical of American policies towards  
>> poverty
>> abroad as well as at home. And, in unusually outspoken language, it
>> accuses
>> the US of having "an overdeveloped military strategy and an
>> under-developed
>> strategy for human security".
>>
>> "There is an urgent need to develop a collective security framework
>> that
>> goes beyond military responses to terrorism," it continues. " Poverty
>> and
>> social breakdown are core components of the global security threat."
>>
>> The document, which was written by Kevin Watkins, the former head of
>> research at Oxfam, will be seen as round two in the battle between  
>> the
>> UN
>> and the US, which regards the world body as an unnecessary constraint
>> on its
>> strategic interests and actions.
>>
>> Last month John Bolton, the new US ambassador to the UN, submitted  
>> 750
>> amendments to the draft declaration for next week's summit to
>> strengthen the
>> UN and review progress towards its Millennium Development Goals to
>> halve
>> world poverty by 2015.
>>
>> The report launched yesterday is a clear challenge to Washington. The
>> Bush administration wants to replace multilateral solutions to
>> international
>> problems with a world order in which the US does as it likes on a
>> bilateral
>> basis.
>>
>> "This is the UN coming out all guns firing," said one UN insider. "It
>> means that, even if we have a lame duck secretary general after the
>> Volcker
>> report (on the oil-for-food scandal), the rest of the organisation is
>> not
>> going to accept the US bilateralist agenda."
>>
>> The clash on world poverty centres on the US policy of promoting
>> growth
>> and trade liberalisation on the assumption that this will trickle  
>> down
>> to
>> the poor. But this will not stop children dying, the UN says. Growth
>> alone
>> will not reduce poverty so long as the poor are denied full access to
>> health, education and other social provision. Among the world's poor,
>> infant
>> mortality is falling at less than half of the world average. To  
>> tackle
>> that
>> means tackling inequality - a message towards which John Bolton and
>> his
>> fellow US neocons are deeply hostile.
>>
>> India and China, the UN says, have been very successful in wealth
>> creation but have not enabled the poor to share in the process. A
>> rapid
>> decline in child mortality has therefore not materialised. Indeed,  
>> when
>> it
>> comes to reducing infant deaths, India has now been overtaken by
>> Bangladesh,
>> which is only growing a third as fast.
>>
>> Poverty could be halved in just 17 years in Kenya if the poorest
>> people
>> were enabled to double the amount of economic growth they can achieve
>> at
>> present.
>>
>> Inequality within countries is as stark as the gaps between  
>> countries,
>> the UN says. Poverty is not the only issue here. The death rate for
>> girls in
>> India is now 50 per cent higher than for boys. Gender bias means  
>> girls
>> are
>> not given the same food as boys and are not taken to clinics as often
>> when
>> they are ill. Foetal scanning has also reduced the number of girls
>> born.
>>
>> The only way to eradicate poverty, it says, is to target  
>> inequalities.
>> Unless that is done the Millennium Development Goals will never be  
>> met.
>> And
>> 41 million children will die unnecessarily over the next 10 years.
>> Decline in health care
>>
>> Child mortality is on the rise in the United States
>>
>> For half a century the US has seen a sustained decline in the number
>> of
>> children who die before their fifth birthday. But since 2000 this  
>> trend
>> has
>> been reversed.
>>
>> Although the US leads the world in healthcare spending - per head of
>> population it spends twice what other rich OECD nations spend on
>> average, 13
>> per cent of its national income - this high level goes
>> disproportionately on
>> the care of white Americans. It has not been targeted to eradicate
>> large
>> disparities in infant death rates based on race, wealth and state of
>> residence.
>>
>> The infant mortality rate in the US is now the same as in Malaysia
>>
>> High levels of spending on personal health care reflect America's
>> cutting-edge medical technology and treatment. But the paradox at the
>> heart
>> of the US health system is that, because of inequalities in health
>> financing, countries that spend substantially less than the US have,
>> on
>> average, a healthier population. A baby boy from one of the top 5 per
>> cent
>> richest families in America will live 25 per cent longer than a boy
>> born in
>> the bottom 5 per cent and the infant mortality rate in the US is the
>> same as
>> Malaysia, which has a quarter of America's income.
>>
>> Blacks in Washington DC have a higher infant death rate than  
>> people in
>> the Indian state of Kerala
>>
>> The health of US citizens is influenced by differences in insurance,
>> income, language and education. Black mothers are twice as likely as
>> white
>> mothers to give birth to a low birthweight baby. And their  
>> children are
>> more
>> likely to become ill.
>>
>> Throughout the US black children are twice as likely to die before
>> their
>> first birthday.
>>
>> Hispanic Americans are more than twice as likely as white  
>> Americans to
>> have no health cover
>>
>> The US is the only wealthy country with no universal health insurance
>> system. Its mix of employer-based private insurance and public  
>> coverage
>> does
>> not reach all Americans. More than one in six people of working age
>> lack
>> insurance. One in three families living below the poverty line are
>> uninsured. Just 13 per cent of white Americans are uninsured,  
>> compared
>> with
>> 21 per cent of blacks and 34 per cent of Hispanic Americans. Being  
>> born
>> into
>> an uninsured household increases the probability of death before the
>> age of
>> one by about 50 per cent.
>>
>> More than a third of the uninsured say that they went without medical
>> care last year because of cost
>>
>> Uninsured Americans are less likely to have regular outpatient care,
>> so
>> they are more likely to be admitted to hospital for avoidable health
>> problems.
>>
>> More than 40 per cent of the uninsured do not have a regular place to
>> receive medical treatment. More than a third say that they or someone
>> in
>> their family went without needed medical care, including prescription
>> drugs,
>> in the past year because they lacked the money to pay.
>>
>> If the gap in health care between black and white Americans was
>> eliminated it would save nearly 85,000 lives a year. Technological
>> improvements in medicine save about 20,000 lives a year.
>>
>> Child poverty rates in the United States are now more than 20 per
>> cent.
>>
>> Child poverty is a particularly sensitive indicator for income  
>> poverty
>> in rich countries. It is defined as living in a family with an income
>> below
>> 50 per cent of the national average.
>>
>> The US - with Mexico - has the dubious distinction of seeing its  
>> child
>> poverty rates increase to more than 20 per cent. In the UK - which at
>> the
>> end of the 1990s had one of the highest child poverty rates in  
>> Europe -
>> the
>> rise in child poverty, by contrast, has been reversed through  
>> increases
>> in
>> tax credits and benefits.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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