AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
AFDMQT 1045 PM EST FRI FEB 18 2005
.UPDATE...
MAIN FCST CONCERNS OVERNIGHT ARE LES TRENDS.
WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS INDICATED WEAK CLIPPER SHRTWV HAD
SLIPPED SE INTO NRN LWR MI. TRAILING AREA OF 280K ISENTROPIC LIFT
SUPPORTED AN AREA OF -SN OVER N AND CNTRL WI. AT THE SFC...A TROF
MOVING FROM WRN LK SUPERIOR INTO W UPR MI. 950 CONV ALONG WITH TEMPS
TO AROUND -20C AROUND H8 INVERSION...PER 23Z TAMDAR SNDG...ALONG
WITH MOIST 850-700 LYR PROVIDED FAVORABLE CONDITIONS FOR LES INTO
THE KEWEENAW. SO FAR...ONLY INTERMITTENT HEAVIER SHSN WERE OBSERVED
BUT KCMX WINDS HAVE ALSO REMAINED SW. IR IMAGERY STILL SUGGESTS
POTENTIAL FOR HEAVIER LES BANDS TO MOVE ONSHORE.
EXPECT OCNLY HEAVY SHSN TO CONTINUE OVER NW UPR MI TIL WINDS VEER NW
FROM 06Z-09Z AND BEST 950 CONV SHIFTS TO THE SOUTH. WINDS TO 320-300
LATE SHOULD ALSO BRING AT A FEW INCHES TO ONTONAGON...SRN HOUGHTON
AND PORTION OF GOGEBIC COUNTY NEAR THE PORCUPINE MTS. LES SHOULD
DIMINISH LATE WITH INCREASING QDIV/SUBSIDENCE...850-700 DRYING AND
TRANSITION TO SHORTER FETCH. SO...LES ADVY LEFT INTACT FOR
ADDITIONAL 1-3 INCH AMOUNTS OVERNIGHT. VEERING WINDS TO NW WILL
EVENTUALLY PUSH LES INTO NE UPR MI...MAINLY BTWN 09Z-12Z. GIVEN
LATER ONSET...GOING FCST OF 1-2 INCHES LOOKS ON TRACK.
OTHERWISE...PATCH -SN/FLURRIES...MAINLY OVER THE SOUTH WILL ALSO
DIMINISH...PER ETA 280K PROG.
&&
JLB
.PREV DISCUSSION...FOR LATER PERIODS ISSUED 350 PM EST FRI FEB 18
2005
LINGERED SNOW SHOWERS LONGER FOR SAT IN W ZONES WITH LOWER LEVEL
CONVERGENCE PROGGED TO EASE ONLY AFTER 15Z. LIMITING FACTORS
MENTIONED EARLIER WILL ONLY BE INCREASING BY THIS TIME AND WILL KEEP
ACCUMS TO AROUND AN INCH. FLOW BECOMING SE LATER SAT AFTN INTO SAT
NIGHT WILL PUSH LK EFFECT OFFSHORE BY LATE SAT EVENING. KEPT LOW
TEMPS BLO ZERO FOR INTERIOR SAT NIGHT WITH RIDGING OVERHEAD. EXPECT
ONLY MID-HIGH CLOUDS FM APPROACHING TROUGH TO SPILL INTO SW ZONES
VERY LATE.
SUN INTO MON...STILL VARYING SOLNS FOR COMBO OF S BRANCH/N BRANCH
SHORTWAVES TO AFFECT REGION. NOW APPEARS THAT MODELS COMING INTO
AGREEMENT THAT BRANCHES WILL REMAIN UNPHASED AS TROUGHS CROSS AREA.
THIS SHOULD ALLOW SFC LOW TO GENERALLY MOVE W TO E FM CNTRL MS RIVER
VALLEY INTO N FRINGES OF OHIO RIVER VALLEY. LOW TRACKS VARY FM
FARTHER N GFS/CANADIAN TO THE S ETA/NAM...UKMET...AND ECMWF. AS IT
LOOKED LIKE A COUPLE DAYS AGO...THIS SOLN MAKES SENSE AS HIGH PRES
RIDGE HOLDS OVR GREAT LAKES AS LATE AS SUN AND PERSISTENT SE WINDS
WILL ADVECT DRIER AIRMASS INTO OUR CWA AHEAD OF THE LOW/INVERTED
TROUGH. UNCERTAINTY IN THIS TIME FRAME SO MADE FEW CHANGES WITH
GOING CHANCE OF SNOW FOR ALL CWA. POTENTIAL LATER CHANGES WOULD BE
DELAYING ONSET OF LGT SNOW FOR SUN MORNING IF DRIER AIR HOLDS LONGER
(AS SHOWN BY ETA/NAM)...AND SCALING BACK POPS FOR N HALF OF CWA.
EDGE OF SNOW LOOKS PRETTY CERTAIN TO AT LEAST AFFECT THE FAR S...SO
WENT WITH LIKELY POPS FOR S HALF OF MENOMINEE COUNTY SUN PM INTO SUN
NIGHT.
EXTENDED (TUE THROUGH FRI)...LITTLE CHANGE IN MEDIUM RANGE GUIDANCE
FM YDY SOLNS. LOW PRES TROUGH PASSES OVR UPR LAKES EARLY IN THE WEEK
AND USHERS IN BRIEF COOL SHOT (H85 TEMPS AROUND -14C) FOR TUE/WED.
HIGH PRES BUILDS IN LATER WED THROUGH FRI DUE TO UPR CONFLUENCE BTWN
DEPARTING N BRANCH AND S BRANCH TROUGH EMERGING FM SW CONUS. WARM
AIR ADVECTION DEPICTED OVR UPR PLAINS AND POSSIBLY INTO UPR LAKES
TOWARD END OF WEEK. OVERALL...OTHER THAN THE LIGHT WNW FLOW LK
EFFECT REGIME THROUGH WED THEME OF EXTENDED IS TRANQUIL WITH SLOWLY
MODERATING TEMPS.
COORD WITH APX.
&&
MQT...WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
LAKE EFFECT SNOW ADVISORY TONIGHT MIZ001-003.
HEAVY FREEZING SPRAY WARNING LAKE SUPERIOR.
&&
$$
JLA(PREV DISC)
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
AFDMQT 350 PM EST FRI FEB 18 2005
.DISCUSSION...
WV LOOP/RAOBS INDICATE DECENT SHORTWAVE PRESSING INTO NW WI ATTM.
17Z TAMDAR SOUNDING NEAR KINL SHOWED DEEP MOISTURE TO H6 WITH OBS
AND DLH RADAR INDICATING MAINLY LGT SNOW (3-5 SM VISIBILITY) BUT A
FEW POCKETS OF MODERATE SNOW WERE ALSO OBSERVED. SWATH OF LGT
SNOW/FLURRIES SHOULD CRUISE SE WITH SHORTWAVE AND AFFECT MUCH OF CWA
THIS EVENING. MAYBE SOME ACCUMULATION (ESPECIALLY FAR W) WITH THIS
SHOT OF SNOW BUT IT WILL PROBABLY BE JUST A DUSTING. PRIMARY CONCERN
IS IN VERY SHORT TERM (THIS EVENING THROUGH A BIT AFTER MIDNIGHT) AS
THE SHORTWAVE AND UPWARD MOTION AND DEEPER MOISTURE ACT UPON ONGOING
LK EFFECT OVR W LK SUPERIOR. FLOW HAS BACKED SW AHEAD OF TROUGH WITH
TROUGH AXIS STILL UPSTREAM OVR CNTRL MN. VIS SAT SHOWS DOMINANT BAND
OF SNOW HAS DEVELOPED WITHIN LAST COUPLE HOURS FM N OF APOSTLE
ISLANDS TOWARD ISLE ROYALE. WEB CAM FM EAGLE HARBOR POINT TO THE
GROWING LK EFFECT WITH DARKENING CLOUDS OUT OVR WRN LK SUPERIOR.
EXPECT THIS DOMINANT BAND TO SHIFT ONSHORE IN KEWEENAW COUNTY THIS
EVENING...THEN INTO N HOUGHTON COUNTY BY MIDNIGHT. NAM40 AND LOCAL
WSETA INDICATED MOST CONVERGENCE IN 950-925MB TO AFFECT S PORTION OF
KEWEENAW COUNTY INTO N PART OF HOUGHTON COUNTY THROUGH 06Z...THEN TO
DECREASE AS BAND ATTEMPS TO SHIFT S INTO REST OF LK SUPERIOR
BORDERING ZONES. SINCE SHORTWAVE/DEEPER MOISTURE DEPART BY 06Z
LEAVING ONLY SHALLOW LAYER OF MOISTURE LESS THAN 5KFT WITH OVER
WATER DLT T/S NEARING 20C...EXPECT BULK OF HEAVY LK EFFECT TO OCCUR
OVR THE KEWEENAW PENINSULA BTWN 02Z AND 07Z (9 PM TO 2 AM EST). SOME
BRIEF GUSTS OF WIND WITH TROUGH PASSAGE...BUT NOT EXPECTED SUSTAINED
REDUCTION TO VISIBILITY DUE TO WIND/SNOW. THEREFORE...NEED 8"/12 HR
TO JUSTIFY WARNING VIA SNOW AMOUNTS. ALTHOUGH EAGLE RIVER-COPPER
HARBOR STRETCH IS INFAMOUS FOR THESE INTENSE QUICK HITTING SW FLOW
EVENTS WITH SNOWFALL RATES OF 1-3"/HR...LACK OF LONG LASTING DEEP
MOISTURE/LIFT FM QUICK MOVING SHORTWAVE WILL KEEP SNOW AMOUNTS IN
CHECK. EXPECT SNOWFALL TOTALS TONIGHT AS HIGH AS 6" OVR THE AREAS
HIGHLIGHTED EARLIER...BUT BELIEVE A LK EFFECT SNOW ADVISORY WILL
COVER THE SITUATION INSTEAD OF A WARNING. WILL ONLY RUN THROUGH
DAYBREAK AS SNOW TOMORROW SHOULD ONLY PRODUCE MINOR ACCUMULATIONS.
CYCLONIC NW FLOW AND SUFFICIENT INSTABILITY WILL PUSH SOME SNOW
SHOWERS INTO GOGEBIC/ONTONAGON/BARAGA/NW MARQUETTE AFTER MIDNIGHT
BUT LOWERING INVERSIONS AND DECREASING MOISTURE BLO INVERSION WILL
LIMIT ACCUMS TO LESS THAN ADVY CRITERIA. LINGERED SNOW SHOWERS
LONGER FOR SAT IN W ZONES WITH LOWER LEVEL CONVERGENCE PROGGED TO
EASE ONLY AFTER 15Z. LIMITING FACTORS MENTIONED EARLIER WILL ONLY BE
INCREASING BY THIS TIME AND WILL KEEP ACCUMS TO AROUND AN INCH. FLOW
BECOMING SE LATER SAT AFTN INTO SAT NIGHT WILL PUSH LK EFFECT
OFFSHORE BY LATE SAT EVENING. KEPT LOW TEMPS BLO ZERO FOR INTERIOR
SAT NIGHT WITH RIDGING OVERHEAD. EXPECT ONLY MID-HIGH CLOUDS FM
APPROACHING TROUGH TO SPILL INTO SW ZONES VERY LATE.
SUN INTO MON...STILL VARYING SOLNS FOR COMBO OF S BRANCH/N BRANCH
SHORTWAVES TO AFFECT REGION. NOW APPEARS THAT MODELS COMING INTO
AGREEMENT THAT BRANCHES WILL REMAIN UNPHASED AS TROUGHS CROSS AREA.
THIS SHOULD ALLOW SFC LOW TO GENERALLY MOVE W TO E FM CNTRL MS RIVER
VALLEY INTO N FRINGES OF OHIO RIVER VALLEY. LOW TRACKS VARY FM
FARTHER N GFS/CANADIAN TO THE S ETA/NAM...UKMET...AND ECMWF. AS IT
LOOKED LIKE A COUPLE DAYS AGO...THIS SOLN MAKES SENSE AS HIGH PRES
RIDGE HOLDS OVR GREAT LAKES AS LATE AS SUN AND PERSISTENT SE WINDS
WILL ADVECT DRIER AIRMASS INTO OUR CWA AHEAD OF THE LOW/INVERTED
TROUGH. UNCERTAINTY IN THIS TIME FRAME SO MADE FEW CHANGES WITH
GOING CHANCE OF SNOW FOR ALL CWA. POTENTIAL LATER CHANGES WOULD BE
DELAYING ONSET OF LGT SNOW FOR SUN MORNING IF DRIER AIR HOLDS LONGER
(AS SHOWN BY ETA/NAM)...AND SCALING BACK POPS FOR N HALF OF CWA.
EDGE OF SNOW LOOKS PRETTY CERTAIN TO AT LEAST AFFECT THE FAR S...SO
WENT WITH LIKELY POPS FOR S HALF OF MENOMINEE COUNTY SUN PM INTO SUN
NIGHT.
EXTENDED (TUE THROUGH FRI)...LITTLE CHANGE IN MEDIUM RANGE GUIDANCE
FM YDY SOLNS. LOW PRES TROUGH PASSES OVR UPR LAKES EARLY IN THE WEEK
AND USHERS IN BRIEF COOL SHOT (H85 TEMPS AROUND -14C) FOR TUE/WED.
HIGH PRES BUILDS IN LATER WED THROUGH FRI DUE TO UPR CONFLUENCE BTWN
DEPARTING N BRANCH AND S BRANCH TROUGH EMERGING FM SW CONUS. WARM
AIR ADVECTION DEPICTED OVR UPR PLAINS AND POSSIBLY INTO UPR LAKES
TOWARD END OF WEEK. OVERALL...OTHER THAN THE LIGHT WNW FLOW LK
EFFECT REGIME THROUGH WED THEME OF EXTENDED IS TRANQUIL WITH SLOWLY
MODERATING TEMPS.
COORD WITH APX.
&&
MQT...WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
LAKE EFFECT SNOW ADVISORY TONIGHT MIZ001-003.
HEAVY FREEZING SPRAY WARNING LAKE SUPERIOR.
&&
$$
JLA
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CLEVELAND OHIO
AFDCLE 915 PM EST FRI FEB 18 2005
.UPDATED SHORT TERM (TONIGHT)...
CLOUDS HOLDING TOUGH ACROSS MUCH OF THE AREA TNGT ALTHOUGH SAT LOOP
SHOWS THEY ARE CLEARLY ON THEIR WAY OUT. FOR NOW WILL REWORD ZONES
TO ACCOUNT FOR CLOUDS EARLY WITH THE CLEARING REACHING THE AREA
EITHER AFTER MIDNIGHT OR LATE DEPENDING ON LOCATION. CLOUDS DID
BREAK IN THE EAST BUT LOOKS LIKE THEY WILL FILL BACK IN DURG THE
NEXT FEW HOURS SO WL JUST GO WITH THE ABV CLRG TREND. NO MAJ CHG IN
FCST LOWS ATTM. IF CLOUDS DO CLR OUT WOULD XPC FCST TO BE REACHED
EASILY GVN VERY LOW DWPTS
&&
.AVIATION (00Z-00Z)...
THE ONLY WEATHER TO SPEAK OF IS A FEW LAKE EFFECT LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS
EAST OF KCLE ...WHICH WILL MOVE EAST AND END BY SATURDAY MORNING AS
HIGH PRESSURE STRETCHING FROM MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND ACROSS
WESTERN OHIO...MOVES SLOWLY EAST. MOST OF FORECAST AREA COVERED
WITH OVC035-040. CLEARING NOW INTO CENTRAL INDIANA MOVING E AT
APPROXIMATELY 10-15 KTS. AS HIGH MOVES EAST SKIES SHOULD BECOME
SCATTERED TO SKC OVER ENTIRE FORECAST AREA BY EARLY AFTERNOON ON
SATURDAY.
&&
.PREVIOUS SHORT TERM(TONIGHT THROUGH MON NIGHT)...
DESPITE THE HIGH PRES RIDGE BUILDING INTO THE REGION...PLENTY OF
LIGHT LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS CONTINUE IN THE SNOW BELTS. SNOW IS
DIMINISHING UNDER NVA AND A LOWERING INVERSION SEEN PER TAMDAR DATA.
FLOW WILL SLOWLY START TO BACK THIS EVENING IN RESPONSE TO THE RIDGE
BUILDING OVER OHIO AND THE FLOW WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME SLIGHTLY
OFFSHORE DUE TO A WK LAND BREEZE. SATELLITE AND RADAR SUGGEST THAT
PLENTY OF WK LES BANDS CONTINUE ATTM...WHICH WILL REQUIRE LKLY POPS
FOR THE SNOWBELTS THIS EVENING. HOWEVER...AS FLOW BACKS AND EVEN
DRIER AIR MOVES INTO THE REGION...WILL BE ABLE TO CUT POPS TO SCT BY
MIDNIGHT. CLDS SHOULD ALSO DIMINISH AS THE FLOW BACKS...ESPECIALLY
OVER INLAND AREAS OF OHIO. THIS WILL ALLOW FOR DECENT RADIATIONAL
COOLING OVERNIGHT...AND HAVE OPTED TO CUT BACK TEMPS TONIGHT WITH
TEMPS IN THE 5-10 DEG RANGE. COULD POSSIBLY SEE TEMPS COLDER IF
WINDS CAN DECOUPLE COMPLETELY. THIS WOULD BE MOST LIKELY SOUTHERN
AREAS AS NEXT SYSTEM OVER THE UPR MS VLY WILL BE APPROACHING THE NRN
AREAS LATE.
SATURDAY SHOULD BE GENERALLY QUIET DESPITE THE FACT THAT A WEAK
TROUGH/COLD FNT WILL BE MOVING THRU THE AREA DURING THE DAY. THIS
SYSTEM WILL LIKELY BE DRY...ALTHOUGH ENOUGH MOISTURE WILL REMAIN IN
PLACE OVER THE NE AREAS TO WARRANT SMALL CHC POPS MAINLY ALONG THE
LAKESHORE EAST OF CLE. WILL NOT BRING POPS INLAND MAINLY DUE TO THE
FLOW BEING SWLY AHD OF THE FNT AND LITTLE MOISTURE TO WORK WITH
OTHER THAN THAT FROM THE LAKE. FLOW TURNS NWLY BEHIND THE FRONT BUT
MOISTURE IS SIGNIFICANTLY LACKING WITH LITTLE IF ANY DYNAMICS. WILL
GO WITH CHC POPS IN THE SNOW BELTS SAT NIGHT...BUT DO NOT THINK THAT
SNOW ACCUMULATIONS FROM THE SNOW SHOWERS WILL BE SIGNIFICANT DUE TO
INVERSION BEING 4-5KFT.
BIG MODEL DIFFERENCES SUN AND SUN NIGHT WITH NEXT SYSTEM CURRENTLY
STILL OVER CA. THIS SRN SYSTEM WILL TRY TO PHASE OVER THE PLAINS
WITH A WEAKER NRN STREAM SYSTEM DIVING OUT OF CANADA. MDLS DIFFER ON
THE TIMING...WITH THE ETA BEING SLOWER AND FARTHER SOUTH WHILE THE
GFS IS A LITTLE FASTER AN N. THE ETA WOULD SUGGEST MUCH OF THE PCPN
BEING SNOW...WHILE THE GFS WOULD SUGGEST A PERIOD OF SNOW MIXING
WITH OR CHANGING OVER TO SNOW BY EVENING MOST AREAS. FCST FOR THIS
TIME PERIOD QUITE COMPLEX NOT ONLY WITH PCPN TYPE...BUT ALSO WITH
TRACK OF THE LOW AND TIMING OF PCPN. THE GFS TRACK N AND W OF OHIO
WOULD SUGGEST PCPN SUN AND SUN EVENING...THEN THE AREA BECOMES DRY
SLOTTED. HOWEVER...THE ETA TRACK ALONG I-70 AND SLOWER WOULD IMPLY
THE PCPN STARTING LATER IN THE DAY ON SUN WITH MORE FROZEN PCPN OVER
THE ENTIRE AREA. AM TRENDING SOMEWHAT TOWARD THE GFS FOR
NOW...RECOGNIZING THAT THE ETA SOLN IS FEASIBLE AND KEEP AT LEAST A
MIXTURE OF PCPN FOR THE ENTIRE AREA IN THE FCST. ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS
NEARLY CERTAIN THAT THE ENTIRE AREA WILL SEE PCPN SUN OR SUN NIGHT
(OR BOTH PERIODS) WITH STRONG UPR DYNAMICS...WITH THE MDL
DIFFERENCES HAVE OPTED TO JUST KEEP LKLY POPS FOR BOTH PERIODS FOR
NOW. REGARDLESS OF MDL SOLN...BOTH START THE PCPN OUT AS ALL SNOW
AND HAVE FOLLOWED THIS IN THE FCST. WHERE IT STAYS SNOW THE
LONGEST...2-4 INCHES IS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE CHANGEOVER OCCURS (IF IT
DOES).
WILL NEED TO KEEP CHC POPS IN FOR MONDAY TO ACCT FOR MDL TIMING
DIFFS. HOWEVER...IF THE GFS VERIFIES IT WILL BE MAINLY DRY
MONDAY...ESPECIALLY WEST. IF THE ETA VERIFIES...POPS WILL NEED TO BE
HIGHER MONDAY.
&&
.LONG TERM(TUE THROUGH FRI)...
DESPITE THE SHORT TERM MODEL DIFFERENCES...THE MED RANGE MODELS ARE
IN GOOD AGREEMENT IN THE EXTENDED...WHICH ALLOWS FOR RELATIVELY HIGH
CONFIDENCE IN THE EXTENDED FCST. AFTER THE SUN/SUN NIGHT SYSTEM E...
HIGH PRES WL BUILD INTO THE GREAT LAKES THRU FRIDAY. THE GFS SHOWS
THAT COLD AIR WILL MOVE S OVER THE SRN LAKES MON NIGHT AND TUE WHICH
MAY ALLOW FOR SOME MINOR LES THRU TUE. HOWEVER...OVERALL THE
EXTENDED SHOULD BE VERY QUIET WX WITH TEMPS NR NORMAL WITH NO MAJOR
COLD SPELLS.
&&
.CLE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
OH...NONE.
PA...NONE.
&&
SHORT TERM UPDATE...TK
PRVS SHORT TERM...MRD
LONG TERM...MRD
AVIATION...DJB
$$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CLEVELAND OHIO
AFDCLE 755 PM EST FRI FEB 18 2005
.AVIATION (00Z-00Z)...
THE ONLY WEATHER TO SPEAK OF IS A FEW LAKE EFFECT LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS
EAST OF KCLE ...WHICH WILL MOVE EAST AND END BY SATURDAY MORNING AS
HIGH PRESSURE STRETCHING FROM MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND ACROSS
WESTERN OHIO...MOVES SLOWLY EAST. MOST OF FORECAST AREA COVERED
WITH OVC035-040. CLEARING NOW INTO CENTRAL INDIANA MOVING E AT
APPROXIMATELY 10-15 KTS. AS HIGH MOVES EAST SKIES SHOULD BECOME
SCATTERED TO SKC OVER ENTIRE FORECAST AREA BY EARLY AFTERNOON ON
SATURDAY.
&&
.SHORT TERM(TONIGHT THROUGH MON NIGHT)...
DESPITE THE HIGH PRES RIDGE BUILDING INTO THE REGION...PLENTY OF
LIGHT LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS CONTINUE IN THE SNOW BELTS. SNOW IS
DIMINISHING UNDER NVA AND A LOWERING INVERSION SEEN PER TAMDAR DATA.
FLOW WILL SLOWLY START TO BACK THIS EVENING IN RESPONSE TO THE RIDGE
BUILDING OVER OHIO AND THE FLOW WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME SLIGHTLY
OFFSHORE DUE TO A WK LAND BREEZE. SATELLITE AND RADAR SUGGEST THAT
PLENTY OF WK LES BANDS CONTINUE ATTM...WHICH WILL REQUIRE LKLY POPS
FOR THE SNOWBELTS THIS EVENING. HOWEVER...AS FLOW BACKS AND EVEN
DRIER AIR MOVES INTO THE REGION...WILL BE ABLE TO CUT POPS TO SCT BY
MIDNIGHT. CLDS SHOULD ALSO DIMINISH AS THE FLOW BACKS...ESPECIALLY
OVER INLAND AREAS OF OHIO. THIS WILL ALLOW FOR DECENT RADIATIONAL
COOLING OVERNIGHT...AND HAVE OPTED TO CUT BACK TEMPS TONIGHT WITH
TEMPS IN THE 5-10 DEG RANGE. COULD POSSIBLY SEE TEMPS COLDER IF
WINDS CAN DECOUPLE COMPLETELY. THIS WOULD BE MOST LIKELY SOUTHERN
AREAS AS NEXT SYSTEM OVER THE UPR MS VLY WILL BE APPROACHING THE NRN
AREAS LATE.
SATURDAY SHOULD BE GENERALLY QUIET DESPITE THE FACT THAT A WEAK
TROUGH/COLD FNT WILL BE MOVING THRU THE AREA DURING THE DAY. THIS
SYSTEM WILL LIKELY BE DRY...ALTHOUGH ENOUGH MOISTURE WILL REMAIN IN
PLACE OVER THE NE AREAS TO WARRANT SMALL CHC POPS MAINLY ALONG THE
LAKESHORE EAST OF CLE. WILL NOT BRING POPS INLAND MAINLY DUE TO THE
FLOW BEING SWLY AHD OF THE FNT AND LITTLE MOISTURE TO WORK WITH
OTHER THAN THAT FROM THE LAKE. FLOW TURNS NWLY BEHIND THE FRONT BUT
MOISTURE IS SIGNIFICANTLY LACKING WITH LITTLE IF ANY DYNAMICS. WILL
GO WITH CHC POPS IN THE SNOW BELTS SAT NIGHT...BUT DO NOT THINK THAT
SNOW ACCUMULATIONS FROM THE SNOW SHOWERS WILL BE SIGNIFICANT DUE TO
INVERSION BEING 4-5KFT.
BIG MODEL DIFFERENCES SUN AND SUN NIGHT WITH NEXT SYSTEM CURRENTLY
STILL OVER CA. THIS SRN SYSTEM WILL TRY TO PHASE OVER THE PLAINS
WITH A WEAKER NRN STREAM SYSTEM DIVING OUT OF CANADA. MDLS DIFFER ON
THE TIMING...WITH THE ETA BEING SLOWER AND FARTHER SOUTH WHILE THE
GFS IS A LITTLE FASTER AN N. THE ETA WOULD SUGGEST MUCH OF THE PCPN
BEING SNOW...WHILE THE GFS WOULD SUGGEST A PERIOD OF SNOW MIXING
WITH OR CHANGING OVER TO SNOW BY EVENING MOST AREAS. FCST FOR THIS
TIME PERIOD QUITE COMPLEX NOT ONLY WITH PCPN TYPE...BUT ALSO WITH
TRACK OF THE LOW AND TIMING OF PCPN. THE GFS TRACK N AND W OF OHIO
WOULD SUGGEST PCPN SUN AND SUN EVENING...THEN THE AREA BECOMES DRY
SLOTTED. HOWEVER...THE ETA TRACK ALONG I-70 AND SLOWER WOULD IMPLY
THE PCPN STARTING LATER IN THE DAY ON SUN WITH MORE FROZEN PCPN OVER
THE ENTIRE AREA. AM TRENDING SOMEWHAT TOWARD THE GFS FOR
NOW...RECOGNIZING THAT THE ETA SOLN IS FEASIBLE AND KEEP AT LEAST A
MIXTURE OF PCPN FOR THE ENTIRE AREA IN THE FCST. ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS
NEARLY CERTAIN THAT THE ENTIRE AREA WILL SEE PCPN SUN OR SUN NIGHT
(OR BOTH PERIODS) WITH STRONG UPR DYNAMICS...WITH THE MDL
DIFFERENCES HAVE OPTED TO JUST KEEP LKLY POPS FOR BOTH PERIODS FOR
NOW. REGARDLESS OF MDL SOLN...BOTH START THE PCPN OUT AS ALL SNOW
AND HAVE FOLLOWED THIS IN THE FCST. WHERE IT STAYS SNOW THE
LONGEST...2-4 INCHES IS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE CHANGEOVER OCCURS (IF IT
DOES).
WILL NEED TO KEEP CHC POPS IN FOR MONDAY TO ACCT FOR MDL TIMING
DIFFS. HOWEVER...IF THE GFS VERIFIES IT WILL BE MAINLY DRY
MONDAY...ESPECIALLY WEST. IF THE ETA VERIFIES...POPS WILL NEED TO BE
HIGHER MONDAY.
&&
.LONG TERM(TUE THROUGH FRI)...
DESPITE THE SHORT TERM MODEL DIFFERENCES...THE MED RANGE MODELS ARE
IN GOOD AGREEMENT IN THE EXTENDED...WHICH ALLOWS FOR RELATIVELY HIGH
CONFIDENCE IN THE EXTENDED FCST. AFTER THE SUN/SUN NIGHT SYSTEM E...
HIGH PRES WL BUILD INTO THE GREAT LAKES THRU FRIDAY. THE GFS SHOWS
THAT COLD AIR WILL MOVE S OVER THE SRN LAKES MON NIGHT AND TUE WHICH
MAY ALLOW FOR SOME MINOR LES THRU TUE. HOWEVER...OVERALL THE
EXTENDED SHOULD BE VERY QUIET WX WITH TEMPS NR NORMAL WITH NO MAJOR
COLD SPELLS.
&&
.CLE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
OH...NONE.
PA...NONE.
&&
SHORT TERM...MRD
LONG TERM...MRD
AVIATION...DJB
$$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CLEVELAND OHIO
AFDCLE 336 PM EST FRI FEB 18 2005
.SHORT TERM(TONIGHT THROUGH MON NIGHT)...
DESPITE THE HIGH PRES RIDGE BUILDING INTO THE REGION...PLENTY OF
LIGHT LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS CONTINUE IN THE SNOW BELTS. SNOW IS
DIMINISHING UNDER NVA AND A LOWERING INVERSION SEEN PER TAMDAR DATA.
FLOW WILL SLOWLY START TO BACK THIS EVENING IN RESPONSE TO THE RIDGE
BUILDING OVER OHIO AND THE FLOW WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME SLIGHTLY
OFFSHORE DUE TO A WK LAND BREEZE. SATELLITE AND RADAR SUGGEST THAT
PLENTY OF WK LES BANDS CONTINUE ATTM...WHICH WILL REQUIRE LKLY POPS
FOR THE SNOWBELTS THIS EVENING. HOWEVER...AS FLOW BACKS AND EVEN
DRIER AIR MOVES INTO THE REGION...WILL BE ABLE TO CUT POPS TO SCT BY
MIDNIGHT. CLDS SHOULD ALSO DIMINISH AS THE FLOW BACKS...ESPECIALLY
OVER INLAND AREAS OF OHIO. THIS WILL ALLOW FOR DECENT RADIATIONAL
COOLING OVERNIGHT...AND HAVE OPTED TO CUT BACK TEMPS TONIGHT WITH
TEMPS IN THE 5-10 DEG RANGE. COULD POSSIBLY SEE TEMPS COLDER IF
WINDS CAN DECOUPLE COMPLETELY. THIS WOULD BE MOST LIKELY SOUTHERN
AREAS AS NEXT SYSTEM OVER THE UPR MS VLY WILL BE APPROACHING THE NRN
AREAS LATE.
SATURDAY SHOULD BE GENERALLY QUIET DESPITE THE FACT THAT A WEAK
TROUGH/COLD FNT WILL BE MOVING THRU THE AREA DURING THE DAY. THIS
SYSTEM WILL LIKELY BE DRY...ALTHOUGH ENOUGH MOISTURE WILL REMAIN IN
PLACE OVER THE NE AREAS TO WARRANT SMALL CHC POPS MAINLY ALONG THE
LAKESHORE EAST OF CLE. WILL NOT BRING POPS INLAND MAINLY DUE TO THE
FLOW BEING SWLY AHD OF THE FNT AND LITTLE MOISTURE TO WORK WITH
OTHER THAN THAT FROM THE LAKE. FLOW TURNS NWLY BEHIND THE FRONT BUT
MOISTURE IS SIGNIFICANTLY LACKING WITH LITTLE IF ANY DYNAMICS. WILL
GO WITH CHC POPS IN THE SNOW BELTS SAT NIGHT...BUT DO NOT THINK THAT
SNOW ACCUMULATIONS FROM THE SNOW SHOWERS WILL BE SIGNIFICANT DUE TO
INVERSION BEING 4-5KFT.
BIG MODEL DIFFERENCES SUN AND SUN NIGHT WITH NEXT SYSTEM CURRENTLY
STILL OVER CA. THIS SRN SYSTEM WILL TRY TO PHASE OVER THE PLAINS
WITH A WEAKER NRN STREAM SYSTEM DIVING OUT OF CANADA. MDLS DIFFER ON
THE TIMING...WITH THE ETA BEING SLOWER AND FARTHER SOUTH WHILE THE
GFS IS A LITTLE FASTER AN N. THE ETA WOULD SUGGEST MUCH OF THE PCPN
BEING SNOW...WHILE THE GFS WOULD SUGGEST A PERIOD OF SNOW MIXING
WITH OR CHANGING OVER TO SNOW BY EVENING MOST AREAS. FCST FOR THIS
TIME PERIOD QUITE COMPLEX NOT ONLY WITH PCPN TYPE...BUT ALSO WITH
TRACK OF THE LOW AND TIMING OF PCPN. THE GFS TRACK N AND W OF OHIO
WOULD SUGGEST PCPN SUN AND SUN EVENING...THEN THE AREA BECOMES DRY
SLOTTED. HOWEVER...THE ETA TRACK ALONG I-70 AND SLOWER WOULD IMPLY
THE PCPN STARTING LATER IN THE DAY ON SUN WITH MORE FROZEN PCPN OVER
THE ENTIRE AREA. AM TRENDING SOMEWHAT TOWARD THE GFS FOR
NOW...RECOGNIZING THAT THE ETA SOLN IS FEASIBLE AND KEEP AT LEAST A
MIXTURE OF PCPN FOR THE ENTIRE AREA IN THE FCST. ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS
NEARLY CERTAIN THAT THE ENTIRE AREA WILL SEE PCPN SUN OR SUN NIGHT
(OR BOTH PERIODS) WITH STRONG UPR DYNAMICS...WITH THE MDL
DIFFERENCES HAVE OPTED TO JUST KEEP LKLY POPS FOR BOTH PERIODS FOR
NOW. REGARDLESS OF MDL SOLN...BOTH START THE PCPN OUT AS ALL SNOW
AND HAVE FOLLOWED THIS IN THE FCST. WHERE IT STAYS SNOW THE
LONGEST...2-4 INCHES IS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE CHANGEOVER OCCURS (IF IT
DOES).
WILL NEED TO KEEP CHC POPS IN FOR MONDAY TO ACCT FOR MDL TIMING
DIFFS. HOWEVER...IF THE GFS VERIFIES IT WILL BE MAINLY DRY
MONDAY...ESPECIALLY WEST. IF THE ETA VERIFIES...POPS WILL NEED TO BE
HIGHER MONDAY.
&&
.LONG TERM(TUE THROUGH FRI)...
DESPITE THE SHORT TERM MODEL DIFFERENCES...THE MED RANGE MODELS ARE
IN GOOD AGREEMENT IN THE EXTENDED...WHICH ALLOWS FOR RELATIVELY HIGH
CONFIDENCE IN THE EXTENDED FCST. AFTER THE SUN/SUN NIGHT SYSTEM E...
HIGH PRES WL BUILD INTO THE GREAT LAKES THRU FRIDAY. THE GFS SHOWS
THAT COLD AIR WILL MOVE S OVER THE SRN LAKES MON NIGHT AND TUE WHICH
MAY ALLOW FOR SOME MINOR LES THRU TUE. HOWEVER...OVERALL THE
EXTENDED SHOULD BE VERY QUIET WX WITH TEMPS NR NORMAL WITH NO MAJOR
COLD SPELLS.
&&
.AVIATION (18Z-18Z)...
LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS AND LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS WILL GRADUALLY DIMINISH
THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING AS THE LOW LEVEL TEMPERATURE INVERSION
LOWERS AND THE WIND FLOW BACKS TO THE WEST AND DECREASES. FOR THE
MOST PART VFR CONDITONS WILL PREVAIL.
&&
.CLE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
OH...NONE.
PA...NONE.
&&
SHORT TERM...MRD
LONG TERM...MRD
AVIATION...LAPLANTE
$$