FXUS04 KWBC 120730 QPFPFD QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 229 AM EST FRI MAR 12 2004 PRELIM DAY 1 AND DAY 2 QPF DISCUSSION VALID MAR 13/1200 UTC THRU MAR 14/1200 UTC REFERENCE AWIPS GRAPHICS UNDER...PRECIP ACCUM - 24HR DAY 1... ...WRN/CNTRL TX... THE MDLS CONT TO BE IN PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT MASS FIELD-WISE WITH THEIR HANDLING OF THE CLOSED SYS WHICH EVENTUALLY LIFTS OUT AND OPENS UP THRU WRN/CNTRL TX THIS PD..AND FOR A CHG THEY AREN'T THAT DIFF QPF-WISE. SIGNIFICANT RAINS ARE ALREADY OCCURRING AND HAVE OCCURRED OVR PTNS OF WRN TX THU AFTN/EVE..AND WITH HGT FALLS..SOME CONTD UPR DIFL..AT LEAST INTO FRI AFTN..AND A MODEST SSELY LLJ PERSISTING..XPC MORE ADDITIONAL MDT TO EVEN LCLY HVY RAINS OVR WRN AND PARTS OF CNTRL TX DURG THIS PD. HVIEST RAINS ARE LIKELY DURG THE DAY FRI AND OVR WRN TX..WITH RNFL AMTS DECREASING SOME FRI NGT INTO CNTRL TX AS THE MID LVL SYS OPENS UP AND THINGS BCM MORE PROGRESSIVE. OTHER THAN THE GFS PROBABLY HAVING A LTL TOO MUCH RNFL IN SCNTRL TX..DIDN'T SEE ANY REAL SIGNIFICANT MDL QPF DIFFS..AND MANUAL QPF DIDN'T DEVIATE MUCH FM THEM. ...NY STATE INTO NEW ENG... THE STG..CLOSED MID/UPR LVL SYS MOVG THRU SRN NEW ENG 1ST HALF OF THIS PD..FOLLOWED BY THE MUCH WKR SYS NOW UPSTREAM OVR THE NRN PLAINS/UPR MS VLY..WL KEEP THINGS WET AND UNSETTLED MUCH OF NY STATE INTO NEW ENG INTO LT FRI NGT. THIS SYS WON'T HAVE A LOT OF MSTR TO WORK WITH..BEING RIGHT ON THE HEELS OF THE DOWNSTREAM FEATURE..SO PCPN AMTS WITH IT SHLD RMN GENLY ON THE LGT SIDE..IN LN WITH THE QUITE AGREEABLE MDL QPFS AGAIN. PLS SEE GRAPHICS 93S AND 94S AND QPFHSD FOR DETAILS ON SNOWFALL POTNL WITH THIS FEATURE. THE MID/UPR LVL TROF NOW APCHG THE B.C. CST WL DIG ESEWD INTO THE NRN ROCKIES/NRN HI PLAINS BY SAT MRNG..BUT AGAIN WL BE RATHER MSTR STARVED..LEADING TO ONLY VRY LGT SNOWS FM MT INTO NRN PARTS OF ND..WITH THE MORE SIGNIFICANT SNOWS RMNG WELL N IN CANADA. DAY 2... ...UPR MS VLY/GRTLKS TO SRN PLAINS... THE UKMET/CANADIAN... AND MORE PROGRESSIVE GFS TREND VERSUS PAST RUNS... SUPPORT GOING CLOSER TO THE ETA SOLN WITH THE EVOLUTION/TIMING OF THE SYSTEM PROGRESSING THRU THE PLAINS INTO THE UPR MS VLY/GRTLKS. THE FAVORED NON-GFS CONSENSUS FOR QPF SPREADS HEAVIEST PCPN... IN THE FORM OF SNOW... ALONG A PATH FROM NRN MN/SWRN ON ESEWD INTO THE UPR GRTLKS... WITH MAX AMTS OF .25- .50 INCH LIQUID. THIS CONTRASTS WITH THE GFS WHOSE MORE AMPLIFIED MID LVL SOLN GENERATES A SWATH OF .50-1 INCH FROM NRN IA/SRN MN TO LAKE SUPERIOR. FARTHER S... CONFIDENCE IS SOMEWHAT LOWER ACROSS THE SRN PLAINS INTO THE MID/LWR MS VLY. MDLS BEGIN TO LOSE DEFINITION OF THE MID LVL LOW NOW OVER NWRN MEXICO. THIS FEATURE SHOULD BE ACCOMPANIED BY AN AREA OF ORGANIZED LGT TO ISOLD MDT RNFL FROM THE RED RIVER VLY INTO THE MID MS VLY. LATER IN THE PERIOD... APPROACHING COLD FRONT WILL MEET LOW LVL FLOW FROM THE GULF OF MEXICO... POSSIBLY ENHANCING AMTS THOUGH MDLS HAVE TRENDED LIGHTER. COMBINATION OF THESE TWO SYSTEMS SHOULD PRODUCE HIGHEST 24 HR TOTALS OVER SERN OK... AROUND .50-1 INCH. MEANWHILE THE ETA APPEARS TOO FAR E WITH ITS RNFL OVER CNTRL LA... AND THUS FOLLOWED THE GFS/UKMET/CANADIAN BLEND THAT KEEPS RNFL OVER SERN TX INTO NWRN LA. ...PAC NW... GUIDANCE FROM 00Z AND EARLIER STRONGLY SUGGESTS THE ETA IS TOO WEAK AND TOO FAR S WITH THE SYSTEM REACHING THE BC COAST BY THE END OF THE PERIOD. IN SPITE OF THIS... THE ETA AND GFS ARE QUITE SIMILAR OVER THE PAC NW. BOTH FCST A PERIOD OF DEEP MSTR AMOUNTING TO PW VALUES OF SLIGHTLY GREATER THAN .75 INCH... AND 20-30 KTS OF 850 MB ONSHORE FLOW... WHICH SHOULD SUPPORT SOME LOCALLY MDT PCPN BY LATER SAT NIGHT. GIVEN THE SIMILARITY OF ETA/GFS FCSTS OF MSTR AND LOW LVL FLOW... AND REASONABLE AGREEMENT FROM THE UKMET/CANADIAN... THE TOPOGRAPHICALLY SUPERIOR ETA IS PROBABLY THE BETTER OPTION OVER THE OLYMPICS AND NRN WA CASCADES WHERE .25-.60 INCH TOTALS ARE POSSIBLE. ...SOUTHWEST... DIFFLUENT FLOW ALOFT AND THE DESTABILIZING INFLUENCE OF DAYTIME HEATING SHOULD GENERATE SCT AND MOSTLY LGT CONVECTION OVER CNTRL/ERN AZ AND NM. WHILE AREAL AVG AMTS SHOULD BE UNDER .25 INCH... WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO SEE HIGHER TOTALS ON A LOCALIZED BASIS. ...NEW ENG... MID LVL TROF WILL BE LIFTING NEWD AWAY FROM THE REGION DURING THE PERIOD. ASSOC LGT SNOW INITIALLY IN PROGRESS FROM UPSTATE NY INTO ME SHOULD DECREASE IN COVERAGE WITH TIME... LEAVING LESS THAN .10 INCH LIQUID IN MOST AREAS. 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