Forecast Discussions mentioning "ACARS", "MDCRS", "AIRCRAFT", "TAMDAR", or "AMDAR" received at FSL on 11/27/07


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SAN DIEGO CA
230 PM PST SUN NOV 25 2007 .SYNOPSIS...A DEVELOPING MARINE LAYER WILL CAUSE AREAS OF COASTAL LOW CLOUDS AND FOG IN THE NIGHTS AND MORNINGS THROUGH TUESDAY. A COUPLE OF WEAK UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEMS WILL BRING VARIABLE HIGH CLOUDINESS THIS WEEK. THERE COULD BE A FEW SPRINKLES TONIGHT AND MONDAY MORNING. STRONGER UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE WILL BRING MORE CLOUDS AND COOLING TOWARD THE END OF THE WEEK. && .DISCUSSION...FOR EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN CALIFORNIA INCLUDING ORANGE... SAN DIEGO...WESTERN RIVERSIDE AND SOUTHWESTERN SAN BERNARDINO COUNTIES... .SHORT TERM (REMAINDER OF TODAY-WED)...THERE WAS LOTS OF HIGH CLOUDINESS TODAY. EARLY AFTERNOON ACARS SOUNDINGS INDICATE A WEAK INVERSION BASED BELOW 1000 FT WITH SW WINDS ALOFT. WEAK OFFSHORE GRADIENTS FROM THE N AND ONSHORE TO THE E. AN UPPER LOW WILL CUT OFF AND MEANDER AROUND SW OF SAN DIEGO THROUGH THE SHORT TERM. THIS LOW WILL TAP INTO TROPICAL MOISTURE AND BRING MID TO HIGH CLOUDINESS OVER SRN CA. CANNOT COMPLETELY RULE OUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A FEW SPRINKLES FROM THE HIGH LEVEL MOISTURE...MAINLY TONIGHT AND MON NIGHT BUT NO SIGNIFICANT MEASURABLE RAIN IS EXPECTED. INCREASING ONSHORE FLOW AND A DEVELOPING EDDY WILL CAUSE A REDEVELOPING MARINE LAYER THROUGH TUE...DECREASING WED AS OFFSHORE GRADIENTS BECOME A LITTLE STRONGER. THE MID AND HIGH CLOUDS WILL DISRUPT THE LOW CLOUD COVER SOMEWHAT. WINDS WILL GENERALLY BE LIGHT EXCEPT LOCAL OFFSHORE BREEZES WILL DEVELOP WEDNESDAY...MAINLY THROUGH AND BELOW MOUNTAIN CANYONS AND PASSES. RELATIVELY MINOR TEMP CHANGES EXCEPT A LITTLE COOLER W OF THE MOUNTAINS TUE. && .LONG TERM (THU-SUN)...WEAK OFFSHORE FLOW WILL COME FROM A MORE NE TO E DIRECTION AS THE UPPER HIGH MOVES SE THU. MODELS REMAIN INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPLEX PATTERN TOWARD THE END OF THE WEEK. THE LOW OFF THE COAST SHOULD MOVE INLAND IN RESPONSE TO A TROUGH MOVING PAST TO THE N. THIS WOULD RESULT IN MORE CLOUDS AND COOLING WITH A POSSIBILITY OF PRECIP. IF SHOWERS DEVELOP IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD BE IN THE FRI TO SAT TIME FRAME...ENDING SUN AS THE LOW MOVES E. WILL CONTINUE LOW POPS BUT KEEP PRECIP WORDING OUT FOR NOW. && .AVIATION... 251930Z...OFFSHORE FLOW CONTINUES TO WEAKEN WITH SOME RECOVERY OF THE MARINE LAYER TO AROUND 400 FEET EXPECTED TONIGHT. A WEAK COASTAL EDDY WILL HELP WITH THE MARINE LAYER RECOVERY. THIS COULD BRING SOME DENSE FOG TO THE VICINITY OF COASTAL AIRPORTS SUCH AS KSAN AND KCRQ LATE TONIGHT INTO MONDAY MORNING. ANY FOG SHOULD DISSIPATE BY 16Z ON MONDAY. ABOVE THE MARINE LAYER...BROKEN TO OVERCAST CLOUDS AT OR ABOVE FL180 TODAY LOWERING TO FL120 ON MONDAY. VISIBILITIES SHOULD REMAIN UNRESTRICTED THROUGH MONDAY. HORTON && .SGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ PUBLIC...DA AVIATION...HORTON
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS NORTHERN INDIANA
348 PM EST SUN NOV 25 2007 .SHORT TERM... DIFFICULT SCENARIO LT THIS AFTN AND EVENING W/VIGOROUS LEAD SW TROUGH LIFTING ENE OUT OF NE MO. STG WAA OVERTOP SHALLOW POLAR WEDGE UPSTREAM ACRS IL LEADING TO BAND OF MOD SNOW/SLEET FM NE MO INTO FAR WRN INDIANA ATTM. 06/12Z MODEL GUIDANCE OF LTL HELP ESP W/DETAILS AND RELIED HEAVILY ON SHRT TERM RUC ESP IN LIGHT OF COLD TAMDAR SNDGS ACRS IL. XPC CORE OF HEAVIER PCPN TO SHIFT NEWD ALG/EITHER SIDE OF A WINAMAC/WARSAW/AUBURN/WAUSEON LINE IN CONJUNCTION W/STRONGEST SLAB ASCENT ALG 295K ISENTROPIC SFC. GRIDDED SNOW AMOUNTS A STAB A BEST AND HOPE MIXING/SFC TEMPS JUST ABV FREEZING KEEP POTENTIAL 2-4 INCH SNOW ACCUMS BLO AN INCH ALTHOUGH BUST POTENTIAL VRY HIGH THROUGH MID EVENING. OTHERWISE LIFT BREAKS DOWN BEHIND DEPARTING WAVE ACRS NE CWA BY 05Z. AFT THAT MESS...SIG SRN STREAM SW OVR W TX THIS AFTN EJECTS NEWD W/RENEWED MOIST LL ASCENT DVLPG LT TONIGHT. CONTD WK LL WAA SHLD PRECLUDE ANY MIXED PCPN W/ALL RAIN XPCD ALTHOUGH WILL LIMIT PRIOR POPS ACRS NRN THIRD W/NOD TWD SLOWER OP GFS EJECTION. && .LONG TERM... MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY MAIN FOCUS REMAINS ON EVOLVING STORM SYSTEM HEADING FOR THE LOWER GREAT LAKES/UPPER OHIO VALLEY. RAINFALL WILL QUICKLY RAMP UP ACROSS THE AREA. EXACT TRACK OF THE LOW STILL PROBLEMATIC WITH MOST OF THE MODELS SHOWING A TIGHT GRADIENT TO THE RAIN/NO RAIN LINE IN THE NW. HAVE INCREASED TO CAT POPS ALL AREAS WITH ONLY BRIEFLY THAT HIGH IN THE NW WHERE MAY NOT LINGER VERY LONG. THEN CHANGEOVER TO SNOW WILL BE THE NEXT CHALLENGE. NEW FACTOR TO INCLUDE IS LACK OF SIG WARMING TODAY AND SNOW/SLEET HELPING TO COOL THE GROUND FURTHER INTO TONIGHT...POTENTIALLY ALLOWING FOR COLDER BOUNDARY LAYER CONDITIONS...ASSISTING IN A FASTER CHANGEOVER TO SNOW ESPECIALLY NW. FOR NOW WILL HOLD ONTO LIKELY POPS NW INTO THE LATE AFTERNOON BUT THINK OVERNIGHT SHIFT WILL LIKELY NEED TO EXPAND TO CAT POPS AS WELL INTO LATE AFTERNOON AS DEFORMATION ZONE STILL LINGERING ACROSS THE AREA. ACCUMULATIONS UP TO 1 INCH REMAIN IN THE LATE AFTERNOON GRIDS IN THE NW...BUT POTENTIAL FOR MORE IF SWITCHOVER IS SOONER. AS NOTED...DEFORMATION ZONE LOOKS TO BE SLOW TO PULL AWAY DURING THE EVENING SO HOLDING ONTO HIGHER POPS INTO THE 3 TO 5 Z RANGE AND THEN TAPERING OFF TO NOTHING TOWARDS 12Z. ADDITIONAL ACCUMUS OF 1 TO 2 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE...ESPECIALLY EARLY WITH AGAIN THE POTENTIAL FOR LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS DEPENDING ON EXACT ALIGNMENT AND DURATION OF MESOBANDING. MAY BE A BAND OF LAKE EFFECT RIGHT AT THE END AS WELL...BUT AMOUNT OF PRECONDITIONING REMAINS QUESTIONABLE. AFTER THIS SYSTEM DEPARTS...HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN AND CLEAR THINGS OUT UNTIL LATE WEDS INTO THURS WHEN STRONG TROUGH AND COLD FRONT PUSH THROUGH THE AREA ACCOMPANIED BY RRQ OF 140 TO 150 KT JET STREAK. MSTR MAY BE A BIT LIMITED WITH THIS SYSTEM WITH GULF CUT OF...BUT STILL SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT MSTR WITH SYSTEM TO WARRANT CONTINUED CHC FOR RAIN/SNOW FOLLOWED BY LAKE EFFECT PRECIP INTO THURS NGT. MINOR ACCUMULATIONS POSSIBLE AGAIN WITH ANY OF THE STRONGER SNOWSHOWERS AND PERSISTENT BANDS. LARGE HIGH PRESSURE WILL PERSIST ACROSS THE DEEP SOUTH AND WILL BE KEY IN THE EVOLUTION OF THE PATTERN INTO THE REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. MODELS HINTED AT A DECENT SYSTEM COMING IN FOR THE WEEKEND BUT SEEM TO HAVE PUSHED THINGS FURTHER SE NOW. WITH ENTIRE PATTERN STILL IN FLUX...WILL HOLD WITH PREVIOUS GRIDS. DID KEEP NEW DAY 7 FOR NOW BASED ON SAME REASONING. .AVIATION... INITIAL VFR CONDS THIS AFTN WILL DETERIORATE SOME BY MID AFTN AND ESP THIS EVENING AS STG WAA AHD OF MO WAVE TRANSLATES EWD AND PRECIP ARRIVES. SOME CONCERN BNDRY LYR TEMPS MAY DROP BLO FREEZING AT KSBN THIS EVENING W/GREATER DIABATIC COOLING POTENTIAL AND WHICH COULD LEAD TO SHORT PD OF -FZRA BUT INCLINED AT THIS POINT GIVEN UPSTREAM OBS TO HOLD OFF ON THAT MENTION YET. OTHERWISE XPC WIDESPREAD MVFR DVLPMNT THIS EVENING SIMILAR IN SCOPE TO PRIOR ISSUANCE AND ADDNL REDUCTION TWD DAYBREAK MONDAY W/WIDESPREAD IFR CIGS/VSBYS XPCD. && .IWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IN...NONE. MI...NONE. OH...NONE. LM...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM/AVIATION...HOLSTEN LONG TERM...FISHER
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
305 AM EST SUN NOV 25 2007 .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE WILL MOVE OFFSHORE TODAY. DEVELOPING LOW PRESSURE OVER THE GULF STATES WILL TRACK ACROSS THE UPPER OHIO VALLEY MONDAY AFTERNOON. THIS LOW WILL DRAG A COLD FRONT ACROSS THE AREA MONDAY NIGHT. HIGH PRESSURE WILL RETURN TO THE AREA TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY. LOW PRESSURE OVER THE GREAT LAKES WEDNESDAY WILL MOVE TO NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND THURSDAY...WHICH WILL DRAG A SECOND COLD FRONT ACROSS THE AREA. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... WATER VAPOR LOOP SHOWS A WEST TO EAST SHEAR AXIS FROM THE MID ATLANTIC WEST INTO THE UPPER PLAINS...THEN SOUTHWEST TO A VIGOROUS UPPER LOW OVER NORTHERN MEXICO. THE NEXT WAVE EMBEDDED IN THIS FLOW IS OVER THE UPPER PLAINS. ACARS 400-250MB WIND OBSERVATIONS REVEAL A 120-160KT WESTERLY JET FROM THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY EAST OVER THE MID ATLANTIC. 04Z SURFACE ANALYSIS PLACED A 1030MB ANTICYCLONE ALONG THE MID ATLANTIC COASTLINE...AS A COASTAL BOUNDARY DEVELOPS ALONG THE SOUTHEAST CONUS COAST. A 1020MB CYCLONE HAS DEVELOPED IN THE WESTERN GULF OF MEXICO OFF THE TEXAS COAST. AS FIRST SUBTLE SHORT WAVE SHEARS TO THE EAST INTO LOWER NEW ENGLAND...MID LEVEL DECK WILL CONTINUE CLEARING FROM THE NORTHWEST EARLY THIS MORNING. VERY TOUGH TO JUDGE HOW FAR SOUTHEAST CLEARING OCCURS...BUT WITH UPSTREAM RIDGING TAKING PLACE ACROSS THE CENTRAL MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY...FIND IT PRUDENT TO NOT PUSH CLEARING LINE TOO FAR SOUTH BEFORE IT LIFTS NORTH DURING THE AFTERNOON. WITH BEST CLOUD COVER ACROSS CENTRAL VIRGINIA...TEMPERATURES ACROSS NORTHERN FORECAST AREA EXPECTED TO BE WARMEST ACROSS THE AREA...INTO THE LOWER 50S. USED 00Z GFS MOS AS A START. AS RESIDUAL SURFACE RIDGING MOVES OUT OF THE REGION...WINDS WILL BE RATHER LIGHT DURING THE DAY...AS REPRESENTED BY 00Z LWX WRF-ARW. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT/... AS THE NORTHERN MEXICO UPPER LOW BEGINS TO LIFT THROUGH THE PLAINS TONIGHT...A STRONG LOW LEVEL JET (40-50KT) DEVELOPS FROM THE GULF OF MEXICO NORTHWARD INTO THE MID ATLANTIC. THE RESULT WILL BE STRONG WARM ADVECTION JUST OFF THE SURFACE. WHILE THE 00Z NAM AND 21Z SREF ARE DRY THROUGH TONIGHT...WITH PRECIPITATION ARRIVING AT THE APPALACHIANS MONDAY MORNING...THE 00Z GFS PRESENTS A DIFFERENT SCENARIO. THE GFS INDICATES PRECIPITATION OCCURS MAINLY ACROSS THE EASTERN FORECAST AREA LATE TONIGHT...COINCIDENT WITH THE ARRIVAL OF THE LOW LEVEL JET. DID NOT DETECT ANY SIGNS OF CONVECTIVE FEEDBACK...INSTEAD IT APPEARS THAT THE GFS INITIALIZED WELL WITH THE CONVECTION OFF THE FLORIDA PAN HANDLE. AS THE LOW LEVEL JET INCREASES...ISENTROPIC LIFT SHOULD BE STRONG ENOUGH FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SHOWERS. IF THE COASTAL FRONT CAN WORK INLAND...CONVECTION ACROSS EASTERN CAROLINAS COULD MIGRATE NORTHWARD AS SHOWERS AS WELL. THE 00Z NCEP WRF-NMM SIMULATED REFLECTIVITY IS FAIRLY SIMILAR TO THE NAM...EXCEPT SHOWS MORE CONVECTION ACROSS THE CAROLINAS AND LIGHT SHOWERS LATE TONIGHT ACROSS THE SOUTHERN FORECAST AREA. THE NSSL WRF-ARW SIMULATED REFLECTIVITY WAS UNAVAILABLE AT THE TIME OF ANALYSIS. TEMPERATURES TONIGHT WILL BE MUCH WARMER DUE TO THICKNESS OF CLOUD DECKS AND STRONG WARM ADVECTION. WENT WITH 00Z NGM MOS AS A BEGINNING POINT. WINDS WILL BE NOTICEABLE OUT OF THE SOUTH...15-20KTS IN THE HIGHER TERRAIN. PCPN ASSOC W/ LLJ WL BE SHUNTED INTO WRN ATLC MON AS SFC LOPRES MVS INTO UPR OHVLY. THAT/S NOT TO SAY THAT WE STILL WONT HV AN ACTIVE WND FIELD ACRS CWFA. H8 WNDS PROGGED NEAR 50 KT...W/ AREA W/IN THTE RDG AND PWAT 1.25-1.5 INCHES /MORE THAN 2SD ABV NRML/...MEANING AMPLE MSTR AVBL LEADING TO HVY RAINERS. WL BUMP IT UP TO CAT POPS... THO THERE WL BE BREAKS BTWN RAINY PDS. TEMPS WL BE A BALANCE BTWN WAA AND EFFECTS OF CLDS/RA. GOING FCST NOT FAR FM A MOS BLEND...SO FEW TWEAKS MADE. THINGS GET KICKED ANOTHER GEAR HIER MON NGT AHD OF WELL DEFINED CDFNT. ALTHO NOT QUITE AS DEFINED AS YDA...STILL A LTL BIT OF INSTBLTY /CPL HND JOULES MUCAPE/ PRESENT IN THE SFC-H8 LYR PER BOTH GFS AND ECMWF. KINEMATIC PROFILES MOST IMPRESSIVE IN TERMS OF SPD SHEAR...60-70 KT AVBL AT H8 ALNG/AHD OF FNT. BEST TIME FRAME 00-06Z. ONLY QSTN BECOMES HOW MUCH OF THAT WL MIX TO SFC. IF EVEN A PORTION OF THAT W/IN HVIER ELEMENTS...IT/LL BE AN ACTV NGT. WL KEEP SCHC THUNDER EMBEDDED W/IN CAT POPS. CDFNT SHUD BE ALNG OR E OF I-95 BY 06Z...AND DRYING SHUD SWEEP ACRS AREA BY DAYBREAK. ALNG W/ CORE OF CAA XPCT GUSTY WNDS ACRS WRN RDGS IN THE NW FLOW. THAT WL ALLW FOR COME COOLER TEMPS SHEN VLY W. LEANED ON HIER SIDE OF MOS IN THE E...AND COOLER W. && .LONG TERM /TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/... CDFNT WL BE WELL OFFSHORE TUE...AS HIPRES BUILDS. CWFA WL BE W/IN NW FLOW REGIME. TEMPS WL BE ANOTHR CHALLENGE AS CAA AND DOWNSLOPE FLOW BALANCE EACH OTHER OUT. WL STAKE OUT MIDDLE GROUND...A CPL DEG COOLER IN THE E...AND A SHADE COOLER THAN THAT W. MRNG CLDS SHUD SCOUR OUT AS SUBSIDENCE FM NWLY FLOW TAKES OVR. SOME MTN PCPN PSBL...BUT TEMPS TOO WARM FOR ANYTHING BUT RAIN. FLOW PTTN THRU WK WL BE PROGRESSIVE...W/ NRN STREAM JET SINKING ACRS CONUS. THAT WL DRIVE ANTHR CDFNT ACRS CWFA NEAR THU. HV KEPT POPS CONSISTENT W/ PRVS FCSTS...IN THE THU DAY TIMEFRAME. DIFFERENCE THIS TIME IS THAT THERE SHUD BE ENUF COLD AIR ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE SYSTEM FOR SCT WRN SHSN THU NGT. WL KEEP IT DRY FRI-SAT. NXT POTENTIAL STORM SYSTEM WL COME SUN. PTYPE WL BE A BIG QSTN...AS ZNL JET WL KEEP WARMTH ACRS SRN CONUS. BUT... THERE/S A LOT OF WX TO GO THRU FIRST...AND PLENTY OF TIME FOR DETAILS TO CHG. && .AVIATION /08Z SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY/... AS FIRST SUBTLE SHORT WAVE SHEARS TO THE EAST...MID LEVEL DECK WILL CONTINUE CLEARING FROM THE NORTHWEST EARLY THIS MORNING. LIGHT SOUTHERLY FLOW RESIDES WITH THE HIGH MOVING OFF THE COAST. MID DECK BUILDS BACK IN FROM THE SOUTH BY EVENING...WITH DETERIORATING CONDITIONS EXPECTED OVERNIGHT WITH WARM ADVECTION SETTING UP IN THE LOW LEVELS. 12Z TAFS WILL LIKELY START TO INDICATE NEAR IFR CEILINGS AND LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR BY THE START OF THE MONDAY MORNING PUSH...ALONG WITH RAIN SHOWERS DUE TO THE ARRIVAL OF THE LOW LEVEL JET. LOOK FOR LOW CLDS/VSBYS IN RAIN MON-MON NGT. WIDESPREAD IFR LIKELY. XPCT SLY WNDS 10-15 KT AT SFC...AND 40-50KT 3000-5000 FT ABV SFC MON. CDFROPA MON NGT...W/ SHARP WSHFT FM S TO W. WNDS AHD OF CDFNT MORE THAN 50 KT 2000-3000 FT ABV GRND SHUD LEAD TO GUSTY SFC CONDS. CUD BE AN ISOL TSRA TOO. STRONG NW FLOW TUE...BECOME MORE TRANQUIL WED. VFR THRU WED. ADDTL FLGT RESTRICTIONS PSBL THU AS NXT STORM SYSTM APPROACHES FM W. && .MARINE... WITH HIGH PRESSURE MOVING OFF THE COAST...LIGHT SOUTHWEST FLOW TODAY INCREASES OUT OF THE SOUTH TONIGHT. BY DAYBREAK MONDAY...SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS SHOWERS ARE EXPECTED. 30-40 KT 2000 FT OFF SFC MON...BUT SFC BASED INVSN SHUD KEEP THAT FM MIXING DOWN. WL NEED TO MONITOR LATER GDNC RUNS TO SEE THE HGT OF THE INVSN. IF NOT BEFORE...SCA QUITE PSBL MON EVE...AND SEEMS LIKE A SURE BET MON NGT-TUE MRNG. WND PROFILES SUGGEST THAT EITHER GLW OR SMW PSBL AHD OF CDFNT MON NGT. WNDS TUE IN RESPONSE TO CAA...WHICH SHUD SIMMER DOWN LT TUE. SINCE ALL THIS BYD PD 3...WL LV IT IN SYNOPSIS AND NOT RAISE HEADLINES YET. NXT CHC FOR SCA COMES LT THU BHD ANTHR CDFNT. && .LWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... DC...NONE. MD...NONE. VA...NONE. WV...NONE. MARINE...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...HTS NEAR TERM...ROGOWSKI SHORT TERM...ROGOWSKI/HTS LONG TERM...HTS AVIATION...ROGOWSKI/HTS MARINE...ROGOWSKI/HTS
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS MARQUETTE MI
636 AM EST SUN NOV 25 2007 ...UPDATED FOR AVIATION... .SYNOPSIS... 08Z WATER VAPOR LOOP AND RUC 500MB HEIGHT ANALYSIS SHOWED SPLIT FLOW ACROSS NORTH AMERICA. IN THE CASE OF THIS FORECAST...MUCH OF THE CONCERN RELIES ON WHAT IS TAKING PLACE IN THE NORTHERN STREAM.... WHICH IS NEARLY ZONAL ALONG THE U.S./CANADIAN BORDER. WITHIN THE ZONAL FLOW...THE MAIN FEATURE OF INTEREST IN THE SHORT TERM IS A SHRTWV MOVING ACROSS SOUTHERN ALBERTA...WHICH IS REFLECTED AT THE SURFACE BY A 1001MB LOW OVER SOUTHERN SASKATCHEWAN. DESPITE DPVA AHEAD OF THE SHRTWV...NOT MUCH IS TAKING PLACE AHEAD OF THE SYSTEM ON RADAR...LIKELY DUE TO PLENTY OF DRY AIR SEEN ON THE 00Z GGW AND BIS SOUNDINGS. HOWEVER...THIS AIRMASS AHEAD OF THE SYSTEM IS RELATIVELY WARM WITH GGW AT 3C AND BIS AND ABR AT 1C. CLOSER TO HOME...HIGH CLOUDS COVER SOME OF THE AREA (MOST PROMINENT OVER LAKE SUPERIOR) DUE TO PACIFIC MOISTURE MOVING THROUGH THE ZONAL FLOW. THESE CLOUDS HAVE PREVENTED VIEWING ANY LAKE EFFECT BAND WHICH WOULD LIE ALONG A STALLED OUT SURFACE TROUGH IN NORTHERN LAKE SUPERIOR. IT APPEARS THIS TROUGH IS A BIT FURTHER NORTH THAN EXPECTED...PERHAPS BEING KEPT NORTH BY LAND BREEZES THAT ARE ADDING AN EXTRA PUSH TO THE GENERAL WSW LOW LEVEL FLOW OVER THE AREA. THUS...THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW ADVISORY WAS CANCELLED LAST EVENING. THE LAST ITEM TO NOTE IS AN UPPER TROUGH DIVING DOWN THROUGH THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES. A COUPLE OF CANADIAN RAOBS NEAR THE TROUGH SHOWED 850MB TEMPS AT OR BELOW -20C. && .DISCUSSION... MAIN FORECAST CONCERNS ARE FREEZING DRIZZLE POTENTIAL TONIGHT AND STORM SYSTEMS AFFECTING THE AREA TUE AND WED. TODAY...SHRTWV OVER ALBERTA WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE EASTWARD THROUGH THE ZONAL FLOW...REACHING NORTHERN MN BY 00Z WITH THE SFC LOW MOVING TO NEAR GRAND MARAIS MN. AGAIN...WITH THE LACK OF ACTIVITY AHEAD OF THE SHRTWV TROUGH AND ONLY HIGH CLOUDS BEING OBSERVED ON IR IMAGERY...THERE ARE VERY FEW IF ANY CONCERNS REGARDING PCPN. ANY LAKE EFFECT BAND OVER NORTHERN LAKE SUPERIOR SHOULD MOVE OUT OF THE U.S. WATERS THIS MORNING AS WINDS BACK AGAIN TO THE SW. THESE SW WINDS WILL HELP ADVECT IN WARMER 850MB TEMPS...REACHING 0C BY 18Z. SINCE SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS VERY FEW LOW CLOUDS AND ONLY HIGH CLOUDS WILL BE MOVING THROUGH THE AREA...WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO WARM DECENTLY TODAY...ESPECIALLY WITH A BREEZY SW WIND DEVELOPING. WILL STAY ON THE WARMER SIDE OF GUIDANCE...ESPECIALLY IN DOWNSLOPING AREAS. TONIGHT...MODELS SHOW THE SHRTWV OVER NORTHERN MN AT 00Z MON TO CONTINUE ITS MARCH EASTWARD...REACHING WESTERN QUEBEC BY 12Z...DRAGGING THE SURFACE LOW WITH IT. THIS WILL ALLOW FOR A COLD FRONT TO DROP SOUTH INTO THE CWA AFTER 06Z...DROPPING 850MB TEMPS TO -8 TO -11C OVER WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR BY 12Z. ALTHOUGH THESE ARE PLENTY COLD ENOUGH TO DEVELOP LAKE EFFECT GIVEN LAKE SURFACE TEMPS AROUND 5C...THERE IS SOME CONCERN THAT MOISTURE MAY NOT EXTEND UP TO THESE COLDER 850MB TEMPS...ESPECIALLY IMMEDIATELY IN THE WAKE OF THE FRONT. THIS WOULD MEAN THE POSSIBILITY FOR SOME FREEZING DRIZZLE... ESPECIALLY IN UPSLOPE AREAS FAVORING NORTH OR NW WINDS. THE NAM...GFS AND LOCAL WRF-ARW RUNS ALL SHOW THIS POSSIBILITY. EVENTUALLY NEAR 12Z...ENOUGH COLD AIR SHOULD COME IN TO CHANGE THE FREEZING DRIZZLE OVER TO LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS...PARTICULARLY FROM THE KEWEENAW NORTH. DAY SHIFT MAY HAVE TO CONSIDER A FREEZING RAIN ADVISORY IF THE DRIZZLE LOOKS MORE SIGNIFICANT. GOING LOW FORECAST SEEMS REASONABLE...WITH TEMPERATURES NOT FALLING MUCH UNTIL THE COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE. MONDAY...UPPER TROUGH CURRENTLY OVER THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES IS EXPECTED TO BE DIGGING SOUTH THROUGH SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA AND POSSIBLY REACHING FAR NW MN BY LATE IN THE DAY. MEANWHILE...TO OUR SOUTH IN THE SOUTHERN STREAM...A SHEARING OUT UPPER LOW IS PROGGED TO BE MOVING UP THROUGH THE OHIO VALLEY WITH A LOW ASSOCIATED WITH IT LIFTING INTO WESTERN PA BY 00Z TUE. UPPER MICHIGAN WILL BE IN LOW LEVEL NORTHERLY FLOW BETWEEN THESE TWO FEATURES...WHICH SHOULD HELP DRIVE DOWN 850MB TEMPS THROUGH THE DAY...CHANGING ANY FREEZING DRIZZLE OVER TO SNOW. BY 21Z...THE NAM DEPICTS READINGS OF -10 TO -13C OVER THE CWA...WHICH FAVORS KEEPING LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS GOING. HOWEVER...GIVEN THE TIME OF DAY...LACK OF ANY SIGNIFICANT CONVERGENCE AREAS...INVERSION HEIGHTS AROUND 5000 FT...AND THE FLOW BECOMING GRADUALLY ANTICYCLONIC LATE IN THE DAY AS A SURFACE RIDGE MOVES INTO WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR...SHOULD HELP TO KEEP THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW LIGHT. GIVEN THE COLD ADVECTION...TEMPERATURES SHOULD STRUGGLE TO RISE MUCH EXCEPT IN THE SOUTH CENTRAL WHERE MORE SUN AND DOWNSLOPING NW FLOW OCCURS. IN FACT...READINGS WILL PROBABLY HOLD STEADY OR SLOWLY FALL IN THE AFTERNOON. MON NIGHT INTO TUE...THE GFS CONTINUES TO BE DISCOUNTED WITH THE UPPER TROUGH DIGGING THROUGH SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA...AND HAVE FOLLOWED THE MORE CONSISTENT UKMET/ECMWF/CANADIAN IDEA...ALSO PER HPC PMDHMD DISCUSSION. SURPRISINGLY...THE NAM IS NOT TOO FAR OFF THE PREFERRED SOLUTION...DESPITE USING THE 18Z GFS FOR ITS BOUNDARY CONDITIONS. THESE MODELS DEPICT A MORE POTENT BUT STILL QUICK MOVING NEGATIVELY TILTED TROUGH CENTERED OVER CENTRAL UPPER MICHIGAN AT 12Z TUE AND HEADING OFF INTO QUEBEC AT 00Z WED. AHEAD OF THE TROUGH... STRONG Q-VECTOR CONVERGENCE (OWING MOSTLY TO DPVA EFFECTS) IS PROGGED TO ENTER WESTERN UPPER MICHIGAN BETWEEN 06-09Z...THEN CONTINUING EASTWARD THROUGH THE REST OF THE MORNING AND EARLY AFTERNOON WITH THE UPPER TROUGH. HAVE INCLUDED CHANCES FOR SNOW WITH THE Q-VECTOR CONVERGENCE...WHICH COULD ACCUMULATE A 1/2 INCH TO AN INCH. HOWEVER...THE MORE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT COULD BE A BRIEF PERIOD OF MODERATE TO HEAVY LAKE EFFECT SNOW WITH WHATEVER SURFACE REFLECTION THIS TROUGH WILL HAVE. IT SEEMS MOST LIKELY NW WIND FAVORED SNOWBELTS COULD PICK UP THE MOST...BUT AGAIN IT WILL HAPPEN IN A BRIEF WINDOW GIVEN THE QUICK NATURE OF THE UPPER TROUGH. THE INSTABILITY IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE...WITH 850MB TEMPS PROGGED TO FALL TO -15 TO -18C...BUT WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO SEE INVERSION HEIGHTS CRASH WITH THE COLDEST 850MB READINGS...WHICH WOULD LIMIT LES INTENSITY. FAIRLY STRONG HIGH PRESSURE (1028MB) IS PROGGED TO BUILD IN ACROSS MUCH OF THE CWA AROUND 00Z WED...WHICH SHOULD REALLY DIMINISH THE INTENSITY OF THE LAKE EFFECT. TUE NIGHT THROUGH WED NIGHT...SINCE THE GFS WAS DISCOUNTED WITH REGARDS TO THE UPPER TROUGH ON MON NIGHT/TUE...IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO USE IT DURING THIS TIME PERIOD. IN FACT...00Z THE ECMWF/UKMET/CANADIAN ARE ALL IN VERY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE NEXT STORM SYSTEM APPROACHING THE AREA ON WED AND HAVE FOLLOWED THEM FOR THE FORECAST. BACK ON TUE...AN UPPER LEVEL TROUGH IS SHOWN TO DIG DOWN THROUGH THE WESTERN U.S...CAUSING CYCLOGENESIS DOWNSTREAM NEAR DENVER AROUND 00Z WED. AS THE UPPER TROUGH MOVES DOWN INTO THE FOUR CORNERS REGION ON WED...A SHRTWV EJECTS OUT AND LIFTS THE LOW NEAR DENVER TOWARDS THE AREA. BY 00Z THU...THE MODELS ALL DEPICT THE LOW REACHING SOMEWHERE NEAR THUNDER BAY. FRONTOGENESIS/WARM ADVECTION AHEAD OF THE SYSTEM MAY BRING SOME LIGHT SNOW INTO THE AREA AS EARLY AS TUESDAY EVENING. HOWEVER...THE STRONGER WARM AND MOIST AIR ADVECTION WILL LIKELY HOLD OFF UNTIL AFTER MIDNIGHT TUE NIGHT AND WED. HAVE RAISED POPS AFTER MIDNIGHT TUESDAY NIGHT ALONG THE WISCONSIN BORDER WHERE WARM ADVECTION BAND OF SNOW MOVES IN...THEN LEFT THE GOING 60 POPS IN FOR WED. HOWEVER...DID LOWER POPS 10 PERCENT ALONG LAKE MICHIGAN AS DRY AIR ASSOCIATED WITH THE HIGH THAT MOVED OVER THE AREA LATE TUE MAY HOLD. IN ADDITION...TRIED TO DEPICT THE SNOW TAPERING OFF IN THE WESTERN U.P. IN THE AFTERNOON WHERE IT SEEMS MOST LIKELY THE WARM ADVECTION BAND OF SNOW WILL LIFT NORTH. THE REST OF THE CWA IS A LITTLE MORE UNCERTAIN TO PLACE ANY TIMING IN AT THIS TIME...BUT FUTURE FORECASTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT IT IN. COLD ADVECTION COMING IN WEDNESDAY NIGHT SHOULD RESTART LAKE EFFECT SNOW FOR THE NORTHERN U.P....AND THUS DID NOT MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS. NO CHANGES MADE BEYOND WED NIGHT. && .AVIATION (FOR THE 12Z TAF ISSUANCE)... VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED AT KSAW AND KCMX THROUGHOUT TODAY AND THIS EVENING. A LOW LEVEL JET SWEEPING THROUGH THE BASE OF A LOW OVER CENTRAL ONTARIO WILL SHIFT ACROSS THE AREA TODAY. SURFACE HEATING WILL INCREASE THE LOW LEVEL INSTABILITY AND ALLOW SOME OF THESE WINDS TO MIX TO SURFACE AS GUSTY CONDITIONS THIS AFTERNOON. THIS ACCOUNTS FOR THE EXPECTED GUSTY CONDITIONS IN THE BOTH TAFS TODAY. TAMDAR SOUNDINGS OVER KSAW ALREADY SHOWING 38 KNOTS EARLY THIS MORNING AT 3K FEET. IN THE DISCUSSION ABOVE...WE SEE DELTA-T`S INCREASING OVER LAKE SUPERIOR ALONG WITH A WEAK SHORTWAVE PASSING OVER THE AREA COULD PRODUCE SOME SNOW SHOWERS LATE TONIGHT... ESPECIALLY OVER KCMX AREA. && .MARINE (FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE)... SOUTHWEST WINDS TO 30 KNOTS WILL CONTINUE THIS MORNING BEFORE DIMINISHING GRADUALLY THIS AFTERNOON AS A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM DRAGS A COLD FRONT ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR. IN THE WAKE OF THE FRONT A RIDGE WILL SETTLE OVER THE LAKE...DIMINISHING THE WINDS BELOW 20 KNOTS. OTHER THAN FOR A BRIEF INCREASE IN WINDS TOWARDS 30 KNOTS ON TUESDAY WITH A LOW CROSSING LAKE SUPERIOR...THE NEXT CHANCE OF GALES WILL BE ON THURSDAY WITH A TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT DEVELOPING AGAIN. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS/DISCUSSION...AJ AVIATION...DLG MARINE...DLG
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MARQUETTE MI
420 AM EST SUN NOV 25 2007 .SYNOPSIS... 08Z WATER VAPOR LOOP AND RUC 500MB HEIGHT ANALYSIS SHOWED SPLIT FLOW ACROSS NORTH AMERICA. IN THE CASE OF THIS FORECAST...MUCH OF THE CONCERN RELIES ON WHAT IS TAKING PLACE IN THE NORTHERN STREAM.... WHICH IS NEARLY ZONAL ALONG THE U.S./CANADIAN BORDER. WITHIN THE ZONAL FLOW...THE MAIN FEATURE OF INTEREST IN THE SHORT TERM IS A SHRTWV MOVING ACROSS SOUTHERN ALBERTA...WHICH IS REFLECTED AT THE SURFACE BY A 1001MB LOW OVER SOUTHERN SASKATCHEWAN. DESPITE DPVA AHEAD OF THE SHRTWV...NOT MUCH IS TAKING PLACE AHEAD OF THE SYSTEM ON RADAR...LIKELY DUE TO PLENTY OF DRY AIR SEEN ON THE 00Z GGW AND BIS SOUNDINGS. HOWEVER...THIS AIRMASS AHEAD OF THE SYSTEM IS RELATIVELY WARM WITH GGW AT 3C AND BIS AND ABR AT 1C. CLOSER TO HOME...HIGH CLOUDS COVER SOME OF THE AREA (MOST PROMINENT OVER LAKE SUPERIOR) DUE TO PACIFIC MOISTURE MOVING THROUGH THE ZONAL FLOW. THESE CLOUDS HAVE PREVENTED VIEWING ANY LAKE EFFECT BAND WHICH WOULD LIE ALONG A STALLED OUT SURFACE TROUGH IN NORTHERN LAKE SUPERIOR. IT APPEARS THIS TROUGH IS A BIT FURTHER NORTH THAN EXPECTED...PERHAPS BEING KEPT NORTH BY LAND BREEZES THAT ARE ADDING AN EXTRA PUSH TO THE GENERAL WSW LOW LEVEL FLOW OVER THE AREA. THUS...THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW ADVISORY WAS CANCELLED LAST EVENING. THE LAST ITEM TO NOTE IS AN UPPER TROUGH DIVING DOWN THROUGH THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES. A COUPLE OF CANADIAN RAOBS NEAR THE TROUGH SHOWED 850MB TEMPS AT OR BELOW -20C. && .DISCUSSION... MAIN FORECAST CONCERNS ARE FREEZING DRIZZLE POTENTIAL TONIGHT AND STORM SYSTEMS AFFECTING THE AREA TUE AND WED. TODAY...SHRTWV OVER ALBERTA WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE EASTWARD THROUGH THE ZONAL FLOW...REACHING NORTHERN MN BY 00Z WITH THE SFC LOW MOVING TO NEAR GRAND MARAIS MN. AGAIN...WITH THE LACK OF ACTIVITY AHEAD OF THE SHRTWV TROUGH AND ONLY HIGH CLOUDS BEING OBSERVED ON IR IMAGERY...THERE ARE VERY FEW IF ANY CONCERNS REGARDING PCPN. ANY LAKE EFFECT BAND OVER NORTHERN LAKE SUPERIOR SHOULD MOVE OUT OF THE U.S. WATERS THIS MORNING AS WINDS BACK AGAIN TO THE SW. THESE SW WINDS WILL HELP ADVECT IN WARMER 850MB TEMPS...REACHING 0C BY 18Z. SINCE SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS VERY FEW LOW CLOUDS AND ONLY HIGH CLOUDS WILL BE MOVING THROUGH THE AREA...WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO WARM DECENTLY TODAY...ESPECIALLY WITH A BREEZY SW WIND DEVELOPING. WILL STAY ON THE WARMER SIDE OF GUIDANCE...ESPECIALLY IN DOWNSLOPING AREAS. TONIGHT...MODELS SHOW THE SHRTWV OVER NORTHERN MN AT 00Z MON TO CONTINUE ITS MARCH EASTWARD...REACHING WESTERN QUEBEC BY 12Z...DRAGGING THE SURFACE LOW WITH IT. THIS WILL ALLOW FOR A COLD FRONT TO DROP SOUTH INTO THE CWA AFTER 06Z...DROPPING 850MB TEMPS TO -8 TO -11C OVER WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR BY 12Z. ALTHOUGH THESE ARE PLENTY COLD ENOUGH TO DEVELOP LAKE EFFECT GIVEN LAKE SURFACE TEMPS AROUND 5C...THERE IS SOME CONCERN THAT MOISTURE MAY NOT EXTEND UP TO THESE COLDER 850MB TEMPS...ESPECIALLY IMMEDIATELY IN THE WAKE OF THE FRONT. THIS WOULD MEAN THE POSSIBILITY FOR SOME FREEZING DRIZZLE... ESPECIALLY IN UPSLOPE AREAS FAVORING NORTH OR NW WINDS. THE NAM...GFS AND LOCAL WRF-ARW RUNS ALL SHOW THIS POSSIBILITY. EVENTUALLY NEAR 12Z...ENOUGH COLD AIR SHOULD COME IN TO CHANGE THE FREEZING DRIZZLE OVER TO LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS...PARTICULARLY FROM THE KEWEENAW NORTH. DAY SHIFT MAY HAVE TO CONSIDER A FREEZING RAIN ADVISORY IF THE DRIZZLE LOOKS MORE SIGNIFICANT. GOING LOW FORECAST SEEMS REASONABLE...WITH TEMPERATURES NOT FALLING MUCH UNTIL THE COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE. MONDAY...UPPER TROUGH CURRENTLY OVER THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES IS EXPECTED TO BE DIGGING SOUTH THROUGH SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA AND POSSIBLY REACHING FAR NW MN BY LATE IN THE DAY. MEANWHILE...TO OUR SOUTH IN THE SOUTHERN STREAM...A SHEARING OUT UPPER LOW IS PROGGED TO BE MOVING UP THROUGH THE OHIO VALLEY WITH A LOW ASSOCIATED WITH IT LIFTING INTO WESTERN PA BY 00Z TUE. UPPER MICHIGAN WILL BE IN LOW LEVEL NORTHERLY FLOW BETWEEN THESE TWO FEATURES...WHICH SHOULD HELP DRIVE DOWN 850MB TEMPS THROUGH THE DAY...CHANGING ANY FREEZING DRIZZLE OVER TO SNOW. BY 21Z...THE NAM DEPICTS READINGS OF -10 TO -13C OVER THE CWA...WHICH FAVORS KEEPING LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS GOING. HOWEVER...GIVEN THE TIME OF DAY...LACK OF ANY SIGNIFICANT CONVERGENCE AREAS...INVERSION HEIGHTS AROUND 5000 FT...AND THE FLOW BECOMING GRADUALLY ANTICYCLONIC LATE IN THE DAY AS A SURFACE RIDGE MOVES INTO WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR...SHOULD HELP TO KEEP THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW LIGHT. GIVEN THE COLD ADVECTION...TEMPERATURES SHOULD STRUGGLE TO RISE MUCH EXCEPT IN THE SOUTH CENTRAL WHERE MORE SUN AND DOWNSLOPING NW FLOW OCCURS. IN FACT...READINGS WILL PROBABLY HOLD STEADY OR SLOWLY FALL IN THE AFTERNOON. MON NIGHT INTO TUE...THE GFS CONTINUES TO BE DISCOUNTED WITH THE UPPER TROUGH DIGGING THROUGH SOUTH CENTRAL CANADA...AND HAVE FOLLOWED THE MORE CONSISTENT UKMET/ECMWF/CANADIAN IDEA...ALSO PER HPC PMDHMD DISCUSSION. SURPRISINGLY...THE NAM IS NOT TOO FAR OFF THE PREFERRED SOLUTION...DESPITE USING THE 18Z GFS FOR ITS BOUNDARY CONDITIONS. THESE MODELS DEPICT A MORE POTENT BUT STILL QUICK MOVING NEGATIVELY TILTED TROUGH CENTERED OVER CENTRAL UPPER MICHIGAN AT 12Z TUE AND HEADING OFF INTO QUEBEC AT 00Z WED. AHEAD OF THE TROUGH... STRONG Q-VECTOR CONVERGENCE (OWING MOSTLY TO DPVA EFFECTS) IS PROGGED TO ENTER WESTERN UPPER MICHIGAN BETWEEN 06-09Z...THEN CONTINUING EASTWARD THROUGH THE REST OF THE MORNING AND EARLY AFTERNOON WITH THE UPPER TROUGH. HAVE INCLUDED CHANCES FOR SNOW WITH THE Q-VECTOR CONVERGENCE...WHICH COULD ACCUMULATE A 1/2 INCH TO AN INCH. HOWEVER...THE MORE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT COULD BE A BRIEF PERIOD OF MODERATE TO HEAVY LAKE EFFECT SNOW WITH WHATEVER SURFACE REFLECTION THIS TROUGH WILL HAVE. IT SEEMS MOST LIKELY NW WIND FAVORED SNOWBELTS COULD PICK UP THE MOST...BUT AGAIN IT WILL HAPPEN IN A BRIEF WINDOW GIVEN THE QUICK NATURE OF THE UPPER TROUGH. THE INSTABILITY IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE...WITH 850MB TEMPS PROGGED TO FALL TO -15 TO -18C...BUT WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO SEE INVERSION HEIGHTS CRASH WITH THE COLDEST 850MB READINGS...WHICH WOULD LIMIT LES INTENSITY. FAIRLY STRONG HIGH PRESSURE (1028MB) IS PROGGED TO BUILD IN ACROSS MUCH OF THE CWA AROUND 00Z WED...WHICH SHOULD REALLY DIMINISH THE INTENSITY OF THE LAKE EFFECT. TUE NIGHT THROUGH WED NIGHT...SINCE THE GFS WAS DISCOUNTED WITH REGARDS TO THE UPPER TROUGH ON MON NIGHT/TUE...IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO USE IT DURING THIS TIME PERIOD. IN FACT...00Z THE ECMWF/UKMET/CANADIAN ARE ALL IN VERY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE NEXT STORM SYSTEM APPROACHING THE AREA ON WED AND HAVE FOLLOWED THEM FOR THE FORECAST. BACK ON TUE...AN UPPER LEVEL TROUGH IS SHOWN TO DIG DOWN THROUGH THE WESTERN U.S...CAUSING CYCLOGENESIS DOWNSTREAM NEAR DENVER AROUND 00Z WED. AS THE UPPER TROUGH MOVES DOWN INTO THE FOUR CORNERS REGION ON WED...A SHRTWV EJECTS OUT AND LIFTS THE LOW NEAR DENVER TOWARDS THE AREA. BY 00Z THU...THE MODELS ALL DEPICT THE LOW REACHING SOMEWHERE NEAR THUNDER BAY. FRONTOGENESIS/WARM ADVECTION AHEAD OF THE SYSTEM MAY BRING SOME LIGHT SNOW INTO THE AREA AS EARLY AS TUESDAY EVENING. HOWEVER...THE STRONGER WARM AND MOIST AIR ADVECTION WILL LIKELY HOLD OFF UNTIL AFTER MIDNIGHT TUE NIGHT AND WED. HAVE RAISED POPS AFTER MIDNIGHT TUESDAY NIGHT ALONG THE WISCONSIN BORDER WHERE WARM ADVECTION BAND OF SNOW MOVES IN...THEN LEFT THE GOING 60 POPS IN FOR WED. HOWEVER...DID LOWER POPS 10 PERCENT ALONG LAKE MICHIGAN AS DRY AIR ASSOCIATED WITH THE HIGH THAT MOVED OVER THE AREA LATE TUE MAY HOLD. IN ADDITION...TRIED TO DEPICT THE SNOW TAPERING OFF IN THE WESTERN U.P. IN THE AFTERNOON WHERE IT SEEMS MOST LIKELY THE WARM ADVECTION BAND OF SNOW WILL LIFT NORTH. THE REST OF THE CWA IS A LITTLE MORE UNCERTAIN TO PLACE ANY TIMING IN AT THIS TIME...BUT FUTURE FORECASTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT IT IN. COLD ADVECTION COMING IN WEDNESDAY NIGHT SHOULD RESTART LAKE EFFECT SNOW FOR THE NORTHERN U.P....AND THUS DID NOT MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS. NO CHANGES MADE BEYOND WED NIGHT. && .AVIATION (FOR THE 06Z TAF ISSUANCE)... LAKE EFFECT SNOW BAND REMAINS OUT OVER LAKE SUPERIOR...AND WITH WINDS EXPECTED TO SHIFT SLIGHTLY MORE SOUTHWEST LATER ON THIS BAND SHOULD STAY NORTH OF KCMX. SOME LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS STILL POSSIBLE WITH SOUTHWEST FLOW...SO HAVE CONTINUED IN THE FORECAST FOR KCMX. VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED AT KSAW THROUGHOUT THE TAF PERIOD...AND AT KCMX AFTER 12Z. LLWS EVIDENT AT KSAW...WITH 51 KNOTS REPORTED VIA 0212Z TAMDAR SOUNDING. SIMILAR CONDITIONS AT KCMX EXPECTED OVERNIGHT AS WINDS WILL BE STRONG OFF THE SURFACE FROM THE WSW. && .MARINE (FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE)... SOUTHWEST WINDS TO 30 KNOTS WILL CONTINUE THIS MORNING BEFORE DIMINISHING GRADUALLY THIS AFTERNOON AS A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM DRAGS A COLD FRONT ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR. IN THE WAKE OF THE FRONT A RIDGE WILL SETTLE OVER THE LAKE...DIMINISHING THE WINDS BELOW 20 KNOTS. OTHER THAN FOR A BRIEF INCREASE IN WINDS TOWARDS 30 KNOTS ON TUESDAY WITH A LOW CROSSING LAKE SUPERIOR...THE NEXT CHANCE OF GALES WILL BE ON THURSDAY WITH A TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT DEVELOPING AGAIN. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS/DISCUSSION...AJ AVIATION...RJT MARINE...DLG
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS MARQUETTE MI
1220 AM EST SUN NOV 25 2007 ...UPDATED FOR AVIATION... .DISCUSSION... MAIN FOCUS IS ON ONGOING ADVISORY OVER THE KEWEENAW PENINSULA. WEST WINDS CONTINUE OVER MUCH OF WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR PER LATEST SURFACE ANALYSIS. SPOTTER REPORTS FROM THE KEWEENAW PENINSULA INDICATE GUSTY WINDS CONTINUE IN EXPOSED AREAS ALONG THE WEST OF THE KEWEENAW...BUT NO SNOWFALL REPORTED OVER THE PAST SEVERAL HOURS. KP59 DID RECORD MEASURABLE PRECIPITATION UNTIL 01Z...BUT NOTHING SINCE THEN. LATEST RADAR DATA SHOWS A FEW WEAK RETURNS...MAINLY NORTH OF COPPER HARBOR. 00Z UPPER AIR SOUNDINGS SHOW WARMER AIR AT 850 MB OFF TO THE WEST... WITH THIS AIR ADVECTING INTO THE REGION. THIS WILL REDUCE LAKE SURFACE/850 MB DELTA T/S OVER WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR TO BETWEEN 8 TO 12 C...AND THUS LESS CONDUCIVE FOR THE GENERATION OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW. WILL DROP ADVISORY...BUT KEEP MENTION OF SOME LES OVER THE KEWEENAW. REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST LOOKS ON TRACK...SO NO OTHER CHANGES PLANNED FOR THIS UPDATE. PREVIOUS FORECAST .SHORT TERM (TONIGHT AND SUN)... UPPER AIR PATTERN CONSISTS OF A 500 MB TROUGH ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES WITH RIDGING ACROSS THE WEST COAST AND A CLOSED 500 MB LOW WEST OF HUDSON BAY. THE UPPER LEVEL FLOW WILL BECOME MORE ZONAL FROM WEST TO EAST WITH TIME TONIGHT AND SUN. THE MAIN WEATHER STORY WILL CONTINUE TO BE A LAKE EFFECT SNOW BAND ACROSS WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR AND WHAT EFFECT IT WILL HAVE ON THE KEWEENAW PENINSULA. EARLIER CALLS THIS MORNING UP TO HOUGHTON AND KEWEENAW COUNTIES TOLD OF SNOWFALL UP TO 4 INCHES WITH TWO INCHES IN THE MORNING. KCMX WAS DOWN FOR A WHILE THIS MORNING DUE TO THE SNOW AND LOOKING AT VISIBLE SATELLITE SHOWED A DOMINANT BAND OR BANDS ACROSS THE WESTERN LAKE THAT WERE ACROSS KEWEENAW AND HOUGHTON COUNTIES. THERE WERE ALSO REPORTS EVEN THOUGH WE COULD NOT FIND IT OF 8 INCHES OF SNOW THIS MORNING UP TOWARDS COPPER HARBOR. BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE WIND DOES NOT CHANGE DIRECTION MUCH FROM THE WSW TO W AND GIVEN THAT LAKE-850 MB DELTA T IS ABOUT 14C OR SO WITH -8C AIR AT 850 MB WITH WATER TEMPERATURES OF 6C...FIGURED AN ADVISORY SHOULD BE HOISTED AND PUT ONE UP FOR KEWEENAW AND NORTHERN HOUGHTON COUNTIES BASED ON POTENTIAL OF THE LAKE EFFECT BAND TO CONTINUE TO AFFECT THOSE COUNTIES TONIGHT WITH A WSW FLOW AND GOOD CONVERGENCE ORIENTING THE BAND FROM WEST TO EAST ACROSS THE AREA. INVERSION HEIGHTS OFF THE NAM AND GFS BOTH ARE UP TO 5000 FEET BEFORE THESE FALL LATE TONIGHT AND THE WIND SWITCHES DIRECTION TO THE SOUTHWEST. WITH THIS IN MIND...STILL THINK UP TO 7 INCHES OF SNOW MAY FALL IN A NARROW BAND AND IN A SMALL AREA AND WILL KEEP ADVISORY GOING TONIGHT. LATE TONIGHT...ENVIRONMENT GETS MORE HOSTILE TO LAKE EFFECT WITH INVERSION HEIGHTS FALLING...SW FLOW AND WARM AIR ADVECTION...SO LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOULD DIMINISH. WINDS WILL ALSO HELP TO BLOW AND DRIFT THE SNOW AROUND UP THERE WITH THE WEST WINDS FAVORED FOR THEIR GUSTINESS...SO THIS SHOULD CAUSE SOME VISIBILITY PROBLEMS AS WELL. MID AND HIGH CLOUDS WILL BE THE RULE FOR THE AREA AND TEMPERATURES WILL HAVE A HARD TIME FALLING OFF. WENT CLOSE TO ADJMAV FOR LOWS AND ALSO HIGHS ON SUNDAY. .LONG TERM (SUN NIGHT THRU SAT)... A SHORTWAVE TRACKING E THRU THE UPPER GREAT LAKES AND ONTARIO SUN NIGHT WILL SEND A COLD FRONT S ACROSS LAKE SUPERIOR AND INTO NRN UPPER MI BY SUNRISE MON. 850MB TEMPS AROUND -7C WILL BE SUFFICIENT FOR A BAND OF LES ALONG THE COLD FRONT/WIND SHIFT. FORCING ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHORTWAVE WILL BE WELL E OF THE AREA WHEN THE COLD FRONT PASSES...SO DO NOT EXPECT A BURST OF HVY LAKE ENHANCED SNOW WITH THE COLD FROPA. BEHIND THE FRONT...A PURE NW TO N FLOW LES REGIME WILL TAKE OVER AS 850MB TEMPS FALL TOWARD -12C DURING THE DAY. NAM/GFS HAVE IMPORTANT DIFFERENCES IN THE INVERSION HEIGHTS MON. GFS IS AROUND 5KFT WHILE THE NAM IS 7-9KFT FOR AT LEAST A PORTION OF THE DAY. IN EITHER CASE...BEST DENDRITIC SNOW GROWTH TEMPS WILL BE ABOVE THE INVERSION WHICH WILL HELP KEEP SNOW ACCUMULATIONS UNDER CONTROL. OTHERWISE...UNTIL THE INVERSION HEIGHT BECOMES MORE CERTAIN...CONDITIONS RIGHT NOW APPEAR TO SUPPORT GENERAL 1-3 INCH ACCUMULATIONS IN THE HIGHER TERRAIN FAVORED BY NNW WINDS. PRECONDITIONING FROM LAKE NIPIGON WILL BE AN IMPORTANT FACTOR IN DETERMINING WHERE THE HEAVIEST SNOW FALLS. TUE...ATTENTION IS ON THE NEXT SHORTWAVE ROTATING SE THRU CANADA TOWARD LAKE SUPERIOR. GFS IS AN OUTLIER SWINGING THE SHORTWAVE THRU FAR NRN ONTARIO. UKMET/CANADIAN/ECMWF ARE MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE BRINGING THE SHORTWAVE/HEIGHT FALLS FARTHER S...AND THE LATTER MODELS EVEN HAVE A SFC LOW REFLECTION OVER LAKE SUPERIOR. LEANED IN THIS DIRECTION FOR THE FCST GIVEN THE CONSISTENCY OF THE ECMWF. IF THE ECMWF/CANADIAN SOLUTION VERIFIES...THERE WOULD LIKELY BE A RELATIVELY BRIEF PERIOD OF MDT/HVY LAKE ENHANCED SNOW TUE NEAR LAKE SUPERIOR. FOR NOW...WILL CARRY LIKELY POPS ALONG MOST OF THE AREA NEAR LAKE SUPERIOR. WED THRU SAT...THIS PERIOD OF THE FCST UTILIZED A COMBINATION OF THE 00Z GFS/ECMWF WHICH ARE REASONABLY SIMILAR IN THE PATTERN OVER THE GREAT LAKES. A LITTLE MORE WEIGHT WAS PLACED ON THE ECMWF GIVEN ITS GOOD RUN TO RUN CONTINUITY RECENTLY. MOST IMPORTANT FEATURE DURING THE MID-LATE WEEK TIME FRAME IS THE PROGRESSIVE SHORTWAVE TROF MOVING ACROSS THE CNTRL/ERN CONUS WED/THU. GFS/ECMWF HAVE SHOWN DECENT CONTINUITY ON THIS SYSTEM WITH ORGANIZING SFC LOW OVER THE CNTRL PLAINS WED MORNING LIFTING NE THRU NRN MI WED NIGHT/THU MORNING. DEPENDING ON THE EXACT TRACK...THIS SYSTEM COULD PROVIDE THE FIRST WIDESPREAD MODERATE SYNOPTIC SNOWFALL FOR MUCH OF THE FCST AREA. AT THE MOMENT...MODEL CONSENSUS TRACK WOULD PLACE GREATEST SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OVER THE NW HALF OF THE FCST AREA. ALSO DEPENDING ON THE TRACK...THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT LAKE ENHANCEMENT NEAR LAKE SUPERIOR FROM THE WRN FCST AREA INTO THE NCNTRL. WILL BE INCREASING POPS TO LIKELY WED OVER MUCH OF THE FCST AREA GIVEN INCREASING CONFIDENCE FOR PCPN. SNYOPTIC PCPN SHOULD EXIT EARLY THU. IN THE WAKE OF THIS SYSTEM...LES WILL DOMINATE THE PCPN FCST THRU SAT AS 850MB TEMPS WILL EASILY BE LOW ENOUGH TO SUPPORT LES (850MB TEMPS PROBABLY NO HIGHER THAN -12C). WHILE IT APPEARS DRY AIR AND LOW INVERSIONS MAY BE INHIBITING FACTORS...THE COLD AIRMASS WILL PUT THE IDEAL DENDRITIC SNOW GROWTH TEMPS IN THE CBL FOR MUCH OF THE TIME...ALLOWING FOR HIGH SNOW-TO-WATER RATIOS. ANY SUBTLE SHORTWAVES PASSING THRU THE AREA WILL OBVIOUSLY PROVIDE PERIODS OF HEAVIER LES AS WELL. FOR THE MOST PART...LOW-LEVEL WIND FLOW WILL BE WNW...SO HIGHER POPS WILL BE PLACED IN THE AREAS FAVORED BY WNW WINDS. AWAY FROM LES...THE REST OF THE FCST AREA SHOULD SEE LITTLE OR NO PCPN AFTER THU. TEMPS THRU THE PERIOD WILL AVERAGE AT OR BLO NORMAL WITH THE COLDEST WEATHER PROBABLY THU/FRI. && .AVIATION (FOR THE 06Z TAF ISSUANCE)... LAKE EFFECT SNOW BAND REMAINS OUT OVER LAKE SUPERIOR...AND WITH WINDS EXPECTED TO SHIFT SLIGHTLY MORE SOUTHWEST LATER ON THIS BAND SHOULD STAY NORTH OF KCMX. SOME LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS STILL POSSIBLE WITH SOUTHWEST FLOW...SO HAVE CONTINUED IN THE FORECAST FOR KCMX. VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED AT KSAW THROUGHOUT THE TAF PERIOD...AND AT KCMX AFTER 12Z. LLWS EVIDENT AT KSAW...WITH 51 KNOTS REPORTED VIA 0212Z TAMDAR SOUNDING. SIMILAR CONDITIONS AT KCMX EXPECTED OVERNIGHT AS WINDS WILL BE STRONG OFF THE SURFACE FROM THE WSW. && .MARINE (FOR THE 4 PM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE)... SW GALES WILL CONTINUE THIS EVENING BEFORE FADING AWAY TONIGHT AS THE GRADIENT DECREASES WITH SOME GUSTS TO 40 KNOTS IN THE EVENING ANYWAY. AFTER THIS GALE EPISODE COMES TO AN END...THE NEXT CHANCE FOR GALES WILL BE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON WITH A TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT AGAIN. && .MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... LAKE SUPERIOR... GALE WARNING UNTIL MIDNIGHT EST TONIGHT LSZ263-264. GALE WARNING UNTIL 1 AM EST SUN LSZ243-244. GALE WARNING UNTIL 3 AM EST SUN LSZ265>267. LAKE MICHIGAN... GALE WARNING UNTIL 1 AM EST SUN LMZ248-250. && $$ SHORT TERM...RJT LONG TERM...ROLFSON AVIATION...GJM/TAG MARINE...GJM
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS GAYLORD MI
1201 AM EST SUN NOV 25 2007 .AVIATION...RELATIVELY TRANQUIL CONDITIONS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS. LAKE EFFECT CLOUD COVER (VFR) WILL CONTINUE TO ERODE DURING THE EARLY MORNING HOURS...AND WE WILL BE COMFORTABLY VFR FOR THE DAYLIGHT HOURS AND INTO SUNDAY NIGHT. BETWEEN AN ARCTIC COLD FRONT JUST NORTH OF LAKE SUPERIOR...AND HIGH PRESSURE IN THE OHIO VALLEY...SOUTHWEST WINDS WILL REMAIN ON THE GUSTY SIDE. JZ && .UPDATE...ISSUED 905 PM SAT NOV 24... VERY LITTLE GOING ON ACROSS THE NORTH LATE THIS EVENING. LAST OF THE MID LEVEL MOISTURE STILL PRODUCING A FLURRY OR TWO NEAR OSCODA. LINGERING SPRINKLES/FLURRIES CONTINUE IN THE TIP OF THE MITT/STRAITS REGION...INCREASINGLY TRENDING LIQUID AS TEMPS RISE INTO THE UPPER 30S. HOWEVER...THOSE SPRINKLES/FLURRIES ARE ALSO INCREASINGLY TRENDING TOWARD NOTHING...WITH WARMING SURFACE AND 850MB TEMPS. 00Z SOUNDINGS FROM GRB AND APX ARE SIMILAR UP TO 825MB...BUT IS WAY WARMER AND DRIER ALOFT (-4C AT 800MB AT GRB...-9C AT APX). THAT REFLECTS THE SUBSIDENCE THAT HAS ALREADY OVERSPREAD NORTHERN MI. THIS WARMING WILL EVENTUALLY WORK DOWN TO 850MB...WHERE TEMPS SHOULD RISE TO -3C BY DAYBREAK. WILL LINGER SPRINKLES/FLURRIES FOR A FEW HOURS (AS IN THE PREVIOUS FORECAST)...THEN END. WITH SIGNIFICANT WARM ADVECTION ALOFT AND A CONTINUED TIGHT SURFACE PRESSURE GRADIENT...WILL KEEP TEMPS ESSENTIALLY STEADY THRU THE NIGHT. JZ && .PREVIOUS DISCUSSION...ISSUED 612 PM SAT NOV 24... UPDATE...THE MID LEVEL DRYING IS PLAINLY HERE IN FORCE...AS SIGNIFICANT LAKE EFFECT PRECIP HAS BEEN ALMOST COMPLETELY DEVOURED IN THE LAST 2 HOURS. WILL CANCEL LAKE EFFECT HEADLINES. THE LIGHTER PRECIP RATES ARE ALSO LETTING RAIN MIX IN...AND WILL MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT AS WELL. JZ DISCUSSION...LATEST RUC ANALYSIS AND VIS/IR/WV/RADAR IMAGERY SHOW A MID-LEVEL WAVE PASSING ACROSS THE CWA ATTM WITH MID-UPPER LEVEL CLOUDS EXITING TO THE EAST. SOME DRIER LOW LEVEL AIR HAS BEEN SURGING NE ACROSS SOUTHERN LOWER MICHIGAN THIS AFTERNOON AND CREATING A FEW HOLES IN THE CLOUD COVER ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE CWA. BUT THE MAIN SHOW HAS BEEN THE SW LAKE EFFECT SNOW EVENT THAT CONTINUES TO IMPACT THE TIP OF THE MITT AND EASTERN UPPER MICHIGAN. SNOW REPORTS ACROSS EMMETT...CHEBOYGAN...AND MACKINAC COUNTIES INDICATED 3-6 INCHES OF SNOW HAVE FALLEN SINCE THIS MORNING WITH THE HEAVIEST SNOW LOCATED WITHIN A CORRIDOR BETWEEN HARBOR SPRINGS AND LEVERING. EM IN MACKINAC COUNTY REVEALED NUMEROUS ACCIDENTS ALONG M-134 NEAR CEDARVILLE WHERE 3 INCHES OF NEW SNOW HAS FALLEN SINCE THIS MORNING. AS THE MID-UPPER LEVEL MOISTURE EXITS...PLENTY OF LOW CLOUDS ACROSS WISCONSIN ARE IN THE PROCESS OF CROSSING NORTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN. ACARS SOUNDINGS REVEAL INVERSION HEIGHTS REMAIN AROUND 9KFT BUT LOWER FAIRLY QUICKLY OVER NORTH CENTRAL WISCONSIN TO ABOUT 4KFT. MEANWHILE...VARIOUS SHIP REPORTS AND BUOYS INDICATE AN OCCASIONAL GALE FORCE GUST IS OCCURRING OVER THE NORTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN AND LAKE HURON. LAKE EFFECT AND MARINE HEADLINES ARE THE MAIN FORECAST CONCERNS THROUGH TOMORROW. TONIGHT...WEAK SHEARED OUT SHORTWAVE WILL MOVE EAST OF THE REGION AND WILL DRAG ALL THE MID-HIGH LEVEL MOISTURE WITH IT. 850-700MB RH OVER NORTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN WILL DECREASE FROM 45-65 PCT EARLY THIS EVENING TO 35-45 PCT BY OVERNIGHT WHILE INVERSION HEIGHTS CRASH FROM 8KFT TO UNDER 3KFT...WITH MOST OF THE CRASHING OCCURRING DURING THE EVENING. 850MB TEMPS ALSO MODERATE FROM THEIR NEAR -8C LEVELS THIS AFTERNOON TO ABOUT -4C BY 12Z. THESE PARAMETERS SUGGEST A DIMINISHING TREND IN LES ACTIVITY THIS EVENING AND COMPLETELY SHUTTING OFF BY 12Z. WITH THE BACK EDGE OF THE DEEPER MOISTURE NOW REACHING WESTERN LAKE MICHIGAN...WILL MAKE A LAST MINUTE DECISION WHETHER TO EXTEND HEADLINES THROUGH THE EVENING. EITHER WAY...WILL BUMP UP SNOW CHANCES TO NUMEROUS ACROSS EMMET/CHEBOYGAN AND EASTERN CHIP COUNTIES THROUGH MID-EVENING...BEFORE TRIMMING TO FLURRIES OVERNIGHT. ADDITIONAL ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE UP TO AN INCH MOSTLY BETWEEN HARBOR SPRINGS AND LEVERING. ELSEWHERE...SHALLOW LOW LEVEL MOISTURE OVER WISCONSIN WILL ROTATE ACROSS THE CWA THIS EVENING BEFORE EXITING BY 12Z SUN. MID-UPPER LEVEL CLOUDS WILL SKIRT BY THE AREA TO THE NORTH...SO WILL KEEP SKIES MOSTLY CLOUDY NORTH OF THE STRAITS THE ENTIRE NIGHT. LOWS WILL BE IN THE MIDDLE TO UPPER 20S. TOMORROW...SHORTWAVE MOVING ACROSS ONTARIO WILL GET SHEARED APART AS IT MOVES EAST INTO QUEBEC...BUT NOT BEFORE DROPPING A COLD FRONT ACROSS SOUTHERN ONTARIO JUST NORTH OF LAKE SUPERIOR. TO THE SOUTH OF THE COLD FRONT...SW WINDS AND WAA WILL CONTINUE TO BRING UP 850MB TEMPS TO THE -3C TO 0C RANGE DURING THE DAY. MID-UPPER LEVEL CLOUDS BROUGHT IN BY THE JET STREAM WILL SLOWLY RETREAT TO THE NORTH WHILE THE 850-700MB RH FALLS BETWEEN 25-35 PCT BY THE END OF THE DAY. LOW LEVEL INSTABILITY PROBABLY IS STILL SUFFICIENT FOR SOME LAKE CLOUDS ACROSS SW FLOW REGIMES IN THE MORNING BEFORE THE INFLUX OF DRIER AIR AND DIURNAL MIXING CAUSE THESE CLOUDS TO DIMINISH. THEREFORE...A GENERAL DECREASING CLOUDINESS TREND WILL BE OBSERVED AND WILL KEEP DRY CONDITIONS GOING...WITH HIGHS IN THE MID 30S NORTH TO MID 40S SW. MPC SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY...CHANGEABLE WEATHER LOOKS ON TAP FOR THIS PERIOD. INITIAL FOCUS COMES LATE SUNDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY MONDAY ACROSS THE NORTH AS WEAK NORTHERN STREAM ENERGY AND LOW LEVEL RIDGING PUSHING THROUGH THE PLAINS ATTEMPTS TO SHOVE A WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY ACROSS THE UPPER PENINSULA. NOT MUCH IN THE WAY OF MOISTURE TO WORK WITH...BUT PRONOUNCED AREA OF 900-800MB FRONTOGENESIS GIVEN VERY TIGHT THERMAL GRADIENT IN PLACE (READINGS LIKELY IN THE LOWER TEENS ACROSS SOUTHERN ONTARIO) WILL PROBABLY BE SUFFICIENT TO SQUEEZE OUT A FEW LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS AS WELL AS PROVIDE AN INCREASE IN CLOUDS. FARTHER SOUTH ACROSS NORTHERN LOWER...NOT A HALF BAD DAY EXPECTED ON MONDAY AS AREA FALLS IN BETWEEN SYSTEMS - FRONT TO THE NORTH AND DEVELOPING LOW OVER THE OHIO VALLEY WITH UPPER WAVE OVER FAR NORTHWESTERN MEXICO THIS AFTERNOON KICKING OUT THROUGH THE PLAINS. TEMPERATURE-WISE...LOOKS FAIRLY "WARM" WITH H85 TEMPS MODERATING TO AROUND -1C UNDER BROAD SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW...AND WITH AT LEAST SOME SUNSHINE EXPECTED...HIGHS IN THE UPPER 30S/LOWER 40S A PRETTY GOOD BET. THINGS HEAD DOWNHILL ACROSS THE FAR SOUTH BY LATE AFTERNOON AS AFOREMENTIONED UPPER WAVE LIFTS INTO THE OHIO VALLEY...WITH INCREASING 700-500MB -DIVQ AXIS AND MID LEVEL BAND OF FRONTOGENESIS ATTEMPTING TO SPREAD INTO THE REGION. STILL A FEW QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED WITH THIS SYSTEM...NAMELY JUST WHERE WILL PRECIP END UP AND WHAT TYPE WILL IT BE? GIVEN NATURE OF PRECIP DRIVEN BY FGEN...WOULD OBVIOUSLY EXPECT A SHARP CUTOFF...AND NUMERICAL GUIDANCE (INCLUDING 15Z SREF) HAS BEEN ADAMANT ABOUT JUST BRUSHING THE FAR SOUTHEAST WITH THE SYNOPTICALLY-DRIVE PRECIP. FORECAST RAOBS AND EXPECTED WARMISH START LEAD TO A CONTINUED MENTION OF RAIN WITH THE LOWEST 2KFT PROGGED ABOVE FREEZING. HOWEVER...COLD AIR NOT FAR AWAY (REFERENCE ABOVE) AND WOULD EXPECT ANYTHING THAT CONTINUES TO CHANGE TO SNOW QUITE QUICKLY. SYSTEM LOOKS SIMILAR TO WHAT OCCURRED LAST WEEK...ONLY MORE SUPPRESSED BUT STILL SOMETHING TO BE WATCHED CLOSELY. BETTER SHOT AT PRECIP FOR MORE OF THE REGION APPEARS TO COME ON TUESDAY AS SECONDARY PIECE OF NORTHERN STREAM ENERGY PROGGED TO DIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES. ECMWF HAS REMAINED CONSISTENT WITH THIS TREND...AND HAS THE SUPPORT OF THE 00/12Z GEFS MEAN. IN TYPICALLY CLIPPER FASHION...THIS ONE MAY TURN OUT TO BE A BIT OF A NUISANCE GIVEN PROGGED DECENT 850-700MB FRONTOGENETICAL AXIS SETTING UP SOMEWHERE NEAR THE AREA...WHILE LAKE ENHANCEMENT COMES INTO PLAY PER H85 TEMPS RUNNING ABOUT -13C OR SO. THAT IS...ASSUMING THE ECMWF IS ONTO THE RIGHT IDEA...AS THE GFS WOULD SUGGEST A MUCH FLATTER WAVE PASSING HARMLESSLY TO THE NORTH. THE KEY APPEARS TO BE THE DEGREE OF RIDGING TAKING SHAPE OVER THE PACIFIC/CANADIAN NORTHWEST...WHICH THE GFS/ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEANS WOULD SUGGEST WILL BE SUFFICIENT TO ALLOW THE NORTHERN STREAM ENERGY TO PENETRATE FARTHER SOUTH. GIVEN SOME REMAINING UNCERTAINTIES...PREFER TO HOLD WITH SMALL POPS AT THIS JUNCTURE. LATER PERIODS (TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY)...ANOTHER CHALLENGING FORECAST IN THE WORKS FOR THE EXTENDED...WITH QUESTIONS ABOUNDING WITH REGARDS TO PRECIP CHANCES AS WELL AS DAILY TEMPERATURES. OVERALL PATTERN THROUGH THIS PERIOD LOOKS TO BE DOMINATED BY AN ACTIVE NORTHERN STREAM...WHILE SOUTHERN STREAM ENERGY LURKS NOT TOO FAR AWAY. INITIAL CHALLENGE COMES WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY WITH PACIFIC ENERGY PROGGED TO DROP THROUGH THE CENTRAL ROCKIES... INCITING LEE CYCLOGENESIS OVER THE CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS. THIS LOW IS THEN EXPECTED TO TRACK NORTHEAST ALONG TIGHTENING THERMAL GRADIENT AS FIRST SURGE OF ARCTIC AIR POURS INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS PER DEVELOPING STRONG BLOCKING RIDGE ACROSS INTERIOR ALASKA. MODEL SOLUTIONS QUITE VARIED WITH REGARDS TO EXACTLY HOW THIS WHOLE THING WILL PLAY OUT...WITH THE GFS DEPICTING A WEAK SURFACE FEATURES WHILE THE ECMWF/CANADIAN KEYS IN ON A MUCH MORE PHASED/AMPLIFIED UPPER SYSTEM...AND A MORE PRONOUNCED ACCOMPANYING SURFACE SYSTEM. LIKELY STRONG THERMAL GRADIENT WOULD CERTAINLY ARGUE TO A MORE WOUND UP SYSTEM...AND ALONG THE LINES OF HPC...PREFER TO SIDE WITH THE ECMWF THIS GO AROUND. EITHER WAY...HOWEVER...THE END RESULT WILL BE HEIGHTENED CHANCES FOR PRECIP AS ISENTROPIC ASCENT REVVS UP LATE WEDNESDAY AND UPPER FORCING CATCHES UP ON THURSDAY TO SHOVE WHAT SHOULD BE A RATHER POTENT COLD FRONT THROUGH THE REGION. PER FORECAST RAOBS OF EITHER SCENARIO...PTYPE LOOKS TO BE MAINLY SNOW...THOUGH PENDING EXACT TRACK/STRENGTH OF SYSTEM...COULD FORESEE SOME RAIN ENTERING THE PICTURE AS WARMER AIR TRIES TO SNEAK IN AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT. HEADING INTO THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH SATURDAY...APPEARS THE LAKE EFFECT MACHINE WILL BE GOING FULL FORCE AS INITIAL SHOT OF QUITE COLD AIR (H85 TEMPS PROGGED -16C TO -18C) DROPS INTO THE REGION PER BRIEF CROSS-POLAR SETUP WITH POLAR VORTEX DROPPING ACROSS HUDSON BAY WHILE STRONG ALASKA RIDGE HOLDS FIRM. SETUP NOT OVERLY STABLE... HOWEVER...AS ENERGY PROGGED TO BRIEFLY DISRUPT THE OVERALL MEAN RIDGE OVER ALASKA...WHILE SECONDARY ENERGY DROPS INTO THE WESTERN CONUS...EFFECTIVELY SHUNTING THE INTIAL SHOT OF COLD EAST. THAT SAID...WILL CONTINUE TO CARRY LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWER MENTION THROUGH THE ENTIRE PERIOD FOR WEST/NORTHWEST FLOW LOCATIONS AS OVERLL CYCLONE FLOW REGIME PERSISTS AND MOISTURE REMAINS SUFFICIENTLY DEEP (900-700MB RH GREATER THAN 70 PERCENT). AS FOR TEMPERATURES EACH DAY...WILL SHOW FALLING TEMPS THURSDAY AFTERNOON AS PLENTIFUL COLD ADVECTION UNDERWAY...WITH READINGS ONLY IN THE 20S ON FRIDAY UNDER CLOUDS/SNOW SHOWERS. LOOKING AHEAD JUST BIT MORE...PERHAPS AN EVEN BIGGER STORY LOOMS JUST AFTER THE CURERNT FORECAST PERIOD ENDS...WITH ALL MODEL GUIDANCE REMAINING IN VERY GOOD AGREEMENT REGARDING REDEVELOPMENT (AND BETTER SUSTAINMENT) OF CROSS POLAR FLOW INTO THE NORTHERN TIER OF THE U.S. AS VERY STRONG RIDGING ONCE AGAIN BUILDS THROUGH ALASKA...WITH ANOTHER SHOT OF VERY COLD AIR MAKING AN APPEARANCE TOWARD THE END OF THE WEEKEND. LAWRENCE && .APX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MI...NONE. LM...GALE WARNING UNTIL 11 AM EST SUNDAY FOR LMZ323-341-342-344>346. LH...GALE WARNING UNTIL 11 AM EST SUNDAY FOR LHZ345>349. LS...GALE WARNING UNTIL 5 AM EST SUNDAY FOR LSZ321. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CLEVELAND OH
824 PM EST MON NOV 26 2007 .SYNOPSIS... LOW PRESSURE WILL MOVE NORTHEAST TO SOUTHWESTERN PENNSYLVANIA BY THIS EVENING AND INTO NEW ENGLAND BY TUESDAY MORNING. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD OVER THE REGION FROM THE SOUTH LATE TUESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY. ANOTHER LOW WILL MOVE ACROSS SOUTHERN ONTARIO THURSDAY MORNING AND DRAG A STRONG COLD FRONT ACROSS THE LOCAL AREA. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 7 AM TUESDAY MORNING/... THE PCPN HAS CHANGED TO ALL SNOW IN THE TOLEDO METRO AREA AND FINDLAY AND LIKELY A RAIN/SNOW MIX AS FAR EAST AS PORT CLINTON AND MARION. ACARS/TAMDAR SOUNDINGS FROM 23Z OUT OF TOLEDO SUGGEST A NEARLY ISOTHERMAL PROFILE THROUGH 900MB NEAR 0C. THIS WOULD IMPLY THAT THE PCPN TYPE WILL BE HIGHLY DEPENDANT ON THE INTENSITY OF PCPN...THE HEAVIER THE PCPN THE MORE LIKELY SNOW WILL FALL. WITH GRASSY SURFACES IN TOLEDO ALREADY SEEING A DUSTING TO 1/2 AN INCH OF SNOW...AND ADDITIONAL SNOW TO COME THIS EVENING...WILL CONTINUE WITH SNOW ACCUMULATIONS AROUND AN INCH ACROSS THE WEST. AS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST AREA...TAMDAR/ACARS SOUNDINGS REMAIN QUITE WARM AT CLE AND CAK...AS WELL AS ERI WITH THE 850MB WARM FRONT STILL WEST OF A SANDUSKY TO MARION LINE. TEMPS AT 850MB REALLY DO NOT START COOLING EAST OF I-71 UNTIL AFTER MIDNIGHT SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE CHANGE OVER TO ALL SNOW IN YNG AND ERI MAY NOT BE UNTIL LATE TONIGHT. LATEST RUC 1000-850MB THICKNESS VALUES INDICATE THAT THE RAIN/SNOW LINE GENERALLY ALIGNS WITH THE 1305 METER THICKNESS LINE...AND THIS DOES NOT MOVE EAST OF I-71 UNTIL JUST AFTER MIDNIGHT AND IT DOES NOT ARRIVE INTO NW PA UNTIL AFTER 09Z. CURRENT FCST HAS ACCUMULATIONS AROUND AN INCH IN THE SNOWBELT...BUT THIS MAY BE A LITTLE PESSIMISTIC GIVEN THAT TEMPS ARE STILL IN THE LOWER 40S IN THESE AREAS. WILL THEREFORE GO WITH RAIN MIXING WITH OR CHANGING TO SNOW LATE TONIGHT WITH LITTLE OR NO ACCUMULATION IN NE OH/NW PA. IN ADDITION...GIVEN THE COOLING ALOFT THAT IS OR WILL OCCUR...SLEET IS UNLIKELY. THERE COULD BE A BRIEF PERIOD OF SNOW GRAINS/PELLETS BUT PROBABLY NOT SLEET. WILL REMOVE THIS FROM THE FORECAST. TEMPS LOOK GOOD AND WILL ONLY MAKE MINOR TWEAKS. UPDATE OUT BY 9 PM. && .SHORT TERM /7 AM TUESDAY MORNING THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... WRAP AROUND MOISTURE WILL SLIDE SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE AREA ON TUESDAY AND FLOW BECOMES FAVORABLE FOR SOME RESIDUAL LAKE EFFECT RAIN AND SNOW SHOWER ACTIVITY DURING THE DAY. AIR MASS IN THE WAKE OF THE LOW NOT PARTICULARLY COLD SO EXPECTING TEMPERATURES TO WARM UP ABOVE FREEZING ON TUESDAY. LAKE EFFECT ACTIVITY WILL CONTINUE INTO TUESDAY AFTERNOON AND THEN COME TO AN END TUESDAY EVENING IN THE NORTHEAST SNOW BELT AREAS. HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN AND SETS UP FOR A FAIR WEATHER DAY ON WEDNESDAY. STRONG COLD FRONT APPROACHES THE FORECAST AREA FROM THE WEST WEDNESDAY NIGHT WITH A TRANSITION FROM RAIN AT ONSET TO SNOW SHOWERS BY MORNING. && .LONG TERM /WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY/... COLD FRONT PASSING THRU LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT EARLY THURSDAY AND EXPECTING MAINLY LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS TO LINGER INTO THURSDAY NIGHT. THIS FRONT IS FOLLOWED QUICKLY BY ANOTHER LOW PASSING THROUGH THE UPPER GREAT LAKES WITH TRAILING COLD FRONT MOVING THRU LATE FRIDAY/FRIDAY NIGHT AND WILL BRING CHANCE OF SNOW SHOWERS...PRIMARILY LAKE EFFECT FOR NORTHEAST OHIO/NORTHWEST PA INTO EARLY SATURDAY. LARGE DIFFERENCE AT THE END OF THE EXTENDED BOTH BETWEEN GFS AND ECMWF AND RUN TO RUN CONSISTENCY. OPERATIONAL GFS AND ENSEMBLES GENERALLY TRYING TO TRACK LOW EASTWARD THROUGH THE OHIO VALLEY WITH EAST COAST DEVELOPMENT SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY WHILE ECMWF TRACKS LOW FURTHER N. GFS WOULD LEAD TO POSSIBLE HEAVY SNOW EVENT WHILE ECMWF WOULD INITIALLY BRING RAIN SHOWERS FOLLOWED BY SNOW LATE MONDAY AFTER COLD FRONT MOVES THROUGH. FORECAST LEANS MORE TOWARD THE GFS KEEPING PRECIP ALL SNOW. && .AVIATION /00Z TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/... SURFACE LOW CENTERED JUST NE OF PIT. CURRENT 3 HOURS PRESSURE FALLS TRACK INTO CENTRAL NEW YORK STATE. MODELS TRACK LOW ACROSS ERN NY STATE...AND INTO MAINE BY 12Z TUESDAY. CURRENTLY HEAVIEST RAIN IS EAST OF A LAKE COUNTY TO STARK COUNTY LINE AND SHOULD BE NORTHEAST OF THE AREA WITHIN 2 HOURS OR SO. TOLEDO HAS TRANSISIONED TO SNOW WITHIN THE LAST HOUR...LOCATIONS WILL GRADUALLY TRANSITION TO SNOW BY AROUND 2AM. SNOW SHOULD ONLY LAST A FEW HOURS AFTERWARDS...EXPECT A WIDESPREAD DUSTING TO UP TO AN INCH. ALSO EXPECT WIDESPREAD IFR CIGS TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT HOURS ACROSS THE ENTIRE FORECAST AREA...IMPROVING QUICKLY FROM THE WEST AFTER SUNRISE. OUTLOOK...A FEW LAKE EFFECT/LAKE ENHANCED WET SNOW SHOWERS AND MVFR CONDITIONS WILL LIKELY LINGER NE OH/NW PA TUESDAY AS A SECONDARY COLD FRONT GRAZES THE AREA OTHERWISE THE AN IMPROVING TREND SHOULD DEVELOP AS CONDITIONS IMPROVE TO VFR. NICE DAY (RELATIVELY SPEAKING) WEDNESDAY WITH VFR CONDITIONS. NEXT COLD FRONT EXPECTED BY THUR MORN WITH MVFR CONDITIONS DEVELOPING WITH SHOWERS. HIGH PRESSURE AND VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED AGAIN BY FRIDAY ALTHOUGH MVFR LAKE EFFECT CLOUDS POSSIBLE EXTREME NE OH/NW PA. && .MARINE... LOW PRESSURE SOUTH OF OHIO WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE EASTWARD THIS EVENING...WINDS WILL COME AROUND OUT OF THE NORTHWEST OVERNIGHT AS THE LOW DEPARTS. WINDS SHOULD STAY BETWEEN 10-20KTS THROUGH DAYBREAK BUT ANOTHER WAVE WILL APPROACH THE LAKE TOMORROW AFTERNOON. THIS WAVE CURRENTLY OVER NORTH DAKOTA WILL SWEEP ACROSS THE LAKE TUESDAY AFTERNOON WITH SOUTHWEST WINDS AROUND 25KTS QUICKLY TURNING AROUND OUT OF THE NORTHWEST AND INCREASING TO GALES TO 35KTS BY AFTERNOON. WILL BE ISSUING A GALE WARNING FOR LAKE ERIE WITH THE AFTERNOON ISSUANCE AND WILL RUN IT FROM LATE TOMORROW MORNING THROUGH TUESDAY EVENING. FOLLOWING THIS WAVE...HIGH PRESSURE WILL POSITION ITSELF ACROSS LAKE ERIE ON WEDNESDAY WITH GENERALLY LIGHT WINDS EXPECTED. ANOTHER AREA OF LOW PRESSURE WILL APPROACH LAKE ERIE FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS ON THURSDAY AND WILL PUSH A STRONG COLD FRONT ACROSS THE LAKE EARLY THURSDAY MORNING. WAY TOO EARLY TO GO WITH HEADLINES BUT THINK GALES WILL AGAIN BE POSSIBLE THURSDAY BEHIND THE FRONT ESPECIALLY ON THE EAST HALF OF THE LAKE. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD ACROSS THE LAKE ON FRIDAY WITH A TROUGH FORECAST TO CROSS THE LAKE ON SATURDAY. && .CLE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... OH...NONE. PA...NONE. MARINE...GALE WARNING FROM 10 AM TO 10 PM EST TUESDAY FOR LEZ061- 142>149-162>169. && $$ SYNOPSIS...LOMBARDY NEAR TERM...MRD SHORT TERM...LOMBARDY LONG TERM...RANDEL AVIATION...DJB MARINE...LEINS
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATE
NWS FORT WORTH TX
1140 AM CST SUN NOV 25 2007 .AVIATION... 18Z TAF PACKAGE UPPER LEVEL LOW HAS NOW MOVED INTO WEST CENTRAL TEXAS AND CONTINUES TO TRACK TO THE NORTHEAST. UPPER LEVEL LOW SHOULD BE MOVING NW OF THE METROPLEX TONIGHT AND THEN THE RAIN WILL FINALLY COME TO AN END AS UPPER LEVEL DRY SLOT MOVES INTO THE REGION. BUT FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING...LOW CLOUDS /BOUNCING BETWEEN UPPER END OF IFR AND LOWER END OF MVFR/ AND AREAS OF LIGHT TO MODERATE RAIN WILL CONTINUE TO AFFECT THE AIRPORTS. THE RAIN WILL BE ON-AND-OFF THROUGH THE EVENING HOURS AND SHOULD COME TO AN END AROUND 26/01Z AT KACT AND 26/03Z AT THE METROPLEX AIRPORTS. NO FROZEN PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED...BUT IF SOME DOES MIX WITH THE RAIN...IT WOULD BE IN THE METROPLEX AREA LATER THIS AFTERNOON OR EVENING...SHORT-LIVED...AND WILL NOT CREATE ANY HAZARDS AT THE SURFACE. CLOUD HEIGHTS WILL BEGIN TO RISE TONIGHT AS THE UPPER LEVEL LOW MOVES NW OF THE AIRPORTS BUT MAY RETURN TO IFR CONDITIONS AT THE METROPLEX AIRPORTS FOR A FEW HOURS AS THE LOW MOVES ACROSS. CEILINGS WILL RAPIDLY RISE INTO VFR TOMORROW MORNING AS THE SYSTEM MOVES OUT AND MAY EVEN RISE EARLIER THAN REFLECTED IN THIS TAF ISSUANCE. 82/JLD && .UPDATE... 1140 AM THE CURRENT FORECAST LOOKS GOOD OVERALL. RAINFALL AHEAD OF EJECTING UPPER LOW CONTINUES TO INCREASE IN COVERAGE AND INTENSITY JUST EAST OF THE INTERSTATE 35 CORRIDOR. EXPECT PERIODS OF LIGHT TO OCCASIONAL MODERATE RAIN THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. WE HAVE OBSERVED PERIODS OF SNOW IN WEST TEXAS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CORE OF THE UPPER LOW. THEREFORE...WE STILL EXPECT THE WESTERN COUNTIES TO PICKUP A LITTLE SNOW BEFORE THE SYSTEM EXITS THE REGION OVERNIGHT. WILL UP THE POPS TO LIKELY ACROSS THE CENTRAL ZONES THIS AFTERNOON TO ACCOUNT FOR INCREASING LIGHT RAIN MOVING NORTHWARD FROM SOUTHWEST TEXAS. WILL ALSO BUMP HIGH TEMPS UP A DEGREE OR TWO IN A FEW PLACES AS SOME BRIEF RAIN FREE PERIODS THIS MORNING HAVE ALLOWED TEMPS TO CREEP UP...ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE METROPLEX AND AREAS EAST OF INTERSTATE 35. && .AVIATION... 518 AM UPPER LEVEL STORM SOUTHWEST OF KMRF AT 11Z WILL MOVE NORTHEAST TOWARD KADM BY 06Z AND KMKO BY 12Z. WIDESPREAD LIGHT TO MODERATE RAIN IS EXPECTED TODAY THROUGH 00Z TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THIS PATH WHILE SNOW...MIXED WITH RAIN AT TIMES...PREVAILS TO THE NORTHWEST OF THIS PATH THROUGH TONIGHT. THE RAIN SHOULD DIMINISH TO VERY LIGHT RAIN BY THIS EVENING AND END BEFORE OR AROUND MIDNIGHT. LOCAL TAFS SITES WILL EXPERIENCE PERIODS OF IFR WITH SOME BRIEF EPISODES OF MVFR TODAY...THEN TRENDING TO JUST MVFR BY THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT. FORECAST SOUNDINGS INDICATE COOLING TO NEAR OR SLIGHTLY BELOW FREEZING OF A SATURATED ENVIRONMENT BY 00Z...THUS ICING IS A CONCERN AOA 1000 FEET AFTER 21Z AND OVERNIGHT. 75 && .DISCUSSION... 502 AM CST. POWERFUL UPPER LEVEL LOW CURRENTLY MOVING TOWARD THE BIG BEND REGION OF TEXAS AND WILL BEGIN TO PIVOT TOWARD THE NORTHEAST LATER TODAY. THE MODELS FORECAST THE UPPER LEVEL LOW TO CROSS RIGHT OVER THE NW CWA...WHICH IS JUST A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH THAN PREVIOUS RUNS. CURRENT ACARS SOUNDINGS DO SHOW AN ABOVE FREEZING LAYER HOLDING STRONG NEAR 800 MB OVER THE CENTRAL CWA. RADAR LOOP OF THE PAST SEVERAL HOURS CONFIRMS THE PRESENCE OF BRIGHT BANDING CAUSED BY MELTING SNOW AT 5000 TO 7000 FT. ACROSS THE EASTERN ZONES...GREATER LOW LEVEL INSTABILITY IS ALLOWING FOR SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS. NEEDLESS TO SAY...WILL CONTINUE THE FORECAST OF CATEGORICAL POPS ACROSS ALL OF NORTH TEXAS FOR THIS MORNING. THE PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN TO WANE BY AFTERNOON AS A DRY SLOT WORKS INTO THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN ZONES. SNOW HAS YET TO MAKE IT TO THE GROUND IN ANY SIGNIFICANT QUANTITY ACROSS MUCH OF TEXAS...BUT MODEL FORECASTS CONTINUE TO DEPICT COOLING OF THE LOW LEVELS WITH THE WARM NOSE ACROSS THE WESTERN ZONES DROPPING BELOW FREEZING DURING THE DAY WITH THE APPROACH OF THE UPPER LOW. DYNAMIC FORCING ASSOCIATED WITH THE CORE OF AN UPPER LOW OFTEN COMPENSATES FOR LACK OF COLD AIR...AS IT LIFTS AND COOLS THE ENTIRE COLUMN ADIABATICALLY. THE LAST EXAMPLE OF THIS WAS LATE MARCH OF 2005 WHEN A SURPRISE BAND OF SNOW OCCURRED FROM WEATHERFORD TO BENBROOK ON EASTER SUNDAY MORNING. WITH THE UPPER LEVEL LOW TRACKING OVER THE NW CWA AROUND SUNSET TONIGHT... WE WILL CONTINUE TO MENTION SNOW MIXING WITH RAIN WITH FAIRLY HIGH CONFIDENCE TO THE NW OF A COMANCHE TO WEATHERFORD TO SHERMAN LINE. WE WILL MENTION SNOW FLURRIES JUST TO THE EAST OF THIS LINE WHERE CONFIDENCE IN SNOW FLAKES SURVIVING THE TRIP THROUGH THE ABOVE FREEZING WARM NOSE IS LOWER. THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY HAS BEEN EXTENDED THROUGH MIDNIGHT FOR 6 OF OUR NW COUNTIES WHERE BRIEF BURSTS OF HEAVY/WET SNOW ARE POSSIBLE TODAY AND THIS EVENING. WITHIN HEAVY BANDS OF SNOW ACROSS THE NW A BRIEF ACCUMULATION OF AN INCH OR SO IS POSSIBLE BEFORE GRADUAL MELTING OCCURS. OTHERWISE...TEMPS ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF NORTH TEXAS WILL BE SAFELY ABOVE FREEZING. WRAP AROUND PRECIPITATION WILL QUICKLY EXIT NORTH TEXAS BY MIDNIGHT WITH SOME CLEARING OCCURRING ACROSS THE SW COUNTIES WHERE FREEZING TEMPS ARE POSSIBLE. A WARM-UP WILL OCCUR MONDAY AND TUESDAY AS SW FLOW AND SUBSIDENCE BEHIND THE STORM SYSTEM RESULTS IN WARMING LOW LEVEL TEMPS. THE MODELS ARE IN A BIT OF DISAGREEMENT IN THE EXTENDED WITH THE TIMING OF A FRONT/POPS. WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE GFS...WITH RESPECT TO THE ECMWF SOLUTION. WILL BACK OFF ON THE SOUTHWARD PUSH OF THE FRONT EXPECTED LATE WEDNESDAY AND HANG ON TO WARMER TEMPS/MOISTURE ACROSS THE SOUTHERN ZONES. ECMWF FORECASTS AN ACTIVE SUBTROPICAL BRANCH AND HAS RAIN ON THURSDAY WHILE GFS IS DRY. WILL SHOW TEMPERATURES NEAR CLIMO AND WAIT UNTIL FRIDAY TO BRING RAIN CHANCES IN THE FORECAST. ANOTHER MODEL RUN OR TWO SHOULD CLEAR UP THIS UNCERTAINTY AND WILL LET LATER SHIFTS DECIDE IF POPS ON THURSDAY NEED TO BE ADDED. TR.92 && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... DALLAS-FT. WORTH, TX 43 37 57 34 64 / 100 30 0 0 0 WACO, TX 45 37 59 35 64 / 100 10 0 0 0 PARIS, TX 44 38 54 33 62 / 100 30 0 0 0 DENTON, TX 42 36 57 31 63 / 100 40 0 0 0 MCKINNEY, TX 43 36 55 30 62 / 100 30 0 0 0 DALLAS, TX 44 39 57 36 64 / 100 30 0 0 0 TERRELL, TX 44 39 56 35 63 / 100 20 0 0 0 CORSICANA, TX 46 38 58 36 64 / 100 10 0 0 0 TEMPLE, TX 45 36 61 36 65 / 90 10 0 0 0 && .FWD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL MIDNIGHT CST TONIGHT FOR THE FOLLOWING ZONES: TXZ091-100-101-115-116-129. && $$ 92/75
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATE
NWS FORT WORTH TX
518 AM CST SUN NOV 25 2007 .AVIATION... UPPER LEVEL STORM SOUTHWEST OF KMRF AT 11Z WILL MOVE NORTHEAST TOWARD KADM BY 06Z AND KMKO BY 12Z. WIDESPREAD LIGHT TO MODERATE RAIN IS EXPECTED TODAY THROUGH 00Z TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THIS PATH WHILE SNOW...MIXED WITH RAIN AT TIMES...PREVAILS TO THE NORTHWEST OF THIS PATH THROUGH TONIGHT. THE RAIN SHOULD DIMINISH TO VERY LIGHT RAIN BY THIS EVENING AND END BEFORE OR AROUND MIDNIGHT. LOCAL TAFS SITES WILL EXPERIENCE PERIODS OF IFR WITH SOME BRIEF EPISODES OF MVFR TODAY...THEN TRENDING TO JUST MVFR BY THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT. FORECAST SOUNDINGS INDICATE COOLING TO NEAR OR SLIGHTLY BELOW FREEZING OF A SATURATED ENVIRONMENT BY 00Z...THUS ICING IS A CONCERN AOA 1000 FEET AFTER 21Z AND OVERNIGHT. 75 && .DISCUSSION... 502 AM CST. POWERFUL UPPER LEVEL LOW CURRENTLY MOVING TOWARD THE BIG BEND REGION OF TEXAS AND WILL BEGIN TO PIVOT TOWARD THE NORTHEAST LATER TODAY. THE MODELS FORECAST THE UPPER LEVEL LOW TO CROSS RIGHT OVER THE NW CWA...WHICH IS JUST A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH THAN PREVIOUS RUNS. CURRENT ACARS SOUNDINGS DO SHOW AN ABOVE FREEZING LAYER HOLDING STRONG NEAR 800 MB OVER THE CENTRAL CWA. RADAR LOOP OF THE PAST SEVERAL HOURS CONFIRMS THE PRESENCE OF BRIGHT BANDING CAUSED BY MELTING SNOW AT 5000 TO 7000 FT. ACROSS THE EASTERN ZONES...GREATER LOW LEVEL INSTABILITY IS ALLOWING FOR SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS. NEEDLESS TO SAY...WILL CONTINUE THE FORECAST OF CATEGORICAL POPS ACROSS ALL OF NORTH TEXAS FOR THIS MORNING. THE PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN TO WANE BY AFTERNOON AS A DRY SLOT WORKS INTO THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN ZONES. SNOW HAS YET TO MAKE IT TO THE GROUND IN ANY SIGNIFICANT QUANTITY ACROSS MUCH OF TEXAS...BUT MODEL FORECASTS CONTINUE TO DEPICT COOLING OF THE LOW LEVELS WITH THE WARM NOSE ACROSS THE WESTERN ZONES DROPPING BELOW FREEZING DURING THE DAY WITH THE APPROACH OF THE UPPER LOW. DYNAMIC FORCING ASSOCIATED WITH THE CORE OF AN UPPER LOW OFTEN COMPENSATES FOR LACK OF COLD AIR...AS IT LIFTS AND COOLS THE ENTIRE COLUMN ADIABATICALLY. THE LAST EXAMPLE OF THIS WAS LATE MARCH OF 2005 WHEN A SURPRISE BAND OF SNOW OCCURRED FROM WEATHERFORD TO BENBROOK ON EASTER SUNDAY MORNING. WITH THE UPPER LEVEL LOW TRACKING OVER THE NW CWA AROUND SUNSET TONIGHT... WE WILL CONTINUE TO MENTION SNOW MIXING WITH RAIN WITH FAIRLY HIGH CONFIDENCE TO THE NW OF A COMANCHE TO WEATHERFORD TO SHERMAN LINE. WE WILL MENTION SNOW FLURRIES JUST TO THE EAST OF THIS LINE WHERE CONFIDENCE IN SNOW FLAKES SURVIVING THE TRIP THROUGH THE ABOVE FREEZING WARM NOSE IS LOWER. THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY HAS BEEN EXTENDED THROUGH MIDNIGHT FOR 6 OF OUR NW COUNTIES WHERE BRIEF BURSTS OF HEAVY/WET SNOW ARE POSSIBLE TODAY AND THIS EVENING. WITHIN HEAVY BANDS OF SNOW ACROSS THE NW A BRIEF ACCUMULATION OF AN INCH OR SO IS POSSIBLE BEFORE GRADUAL MELTING OCCURS. OTHERWISE...TEMPS ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF NORTH TEXAS WILL BE SAFELY ABOVE FREEZING. WRAP AROUND PRECIPITATION WILL QUICKLY EXIT NORTH TEXAS BY MIDNIGHT WITH SOME CLEARING OCCURRING ACROSS THE SW COUNTIES WHERE FREEZING TEMPS ARE POSSIBLE. A WARM-UP WILL OCCUR MONDAY AND TUESDAY AS SW FLOW AND SUBSIDENCE BEHIND THE STORM SYSTEM RESULTS IN WARMING LOW LEVEL TEMPS. THE MODELS ARE IN A BIT OF DISAGREEMENT IN THE EXTENDED WITH THE TIMING OF A FRONT/POPS. WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE GFS...WITH RESPECT TO THE ECMWF SOLUTION. WILL BACK OFF ON THE SOUTHWARD PUSH OF THE FRONT EXPECTED LATE WEDNESDAY AND HANG ON TO WARMER TEMPS/MOISTURE ACROSS THE SOUTHERN ZONES. ECMWF FORECASTS AN ACTIVE SUBTROPICAL BRANCH AND HAS RAIN ON THURSDAY WHILE GFS IS DRY. WILL SHOW TEMPERATURES NEAR CLIMO AND WAIT UNTIL FRIDAY TO BRING RAIN CHANCES IN THE FORECAST. ANOTHER MODEL RUN OR TWO SHOULD CLEAR UP THIS UNCERTAINTY AND WILL LET LATER SHIFTS DECIDE IF POPS ON THURSDAY NEED TO BE ADDED. TR.92 && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... DALLAS-FT. WORTH, TX 43 37 57 34 64 / 100 30 0 0 0 WACO, TX 45 37 59 35 64 / 100 10 0 0 0 PARIS, TX 44 38 54 33 62 / 100 30 0 0 0 DENTON, TX 42 36 57 31 63 / 100 40 0 0 0 MCKINNEY, TX 43 36 55 30 62 / 100 30 0 0 0 DALLAS, TX 44 39 57 36 64 / 100 30 0 0 0 TERRELL, TX 44 39 56 35 63 / 100 20 0 0 0 CORSICANA, TX 46 38 58 36 64 / 100 10 0 0 0 TEMPLE, TX 45 36 61 36 65 / 90 10 0 0 0 && .FWD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL MIDNIGHT CST TONIGHT FOR THE FOLLOWING ZONES: TXZ091-100-101-115-116-129. && $$ 92/75
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS FORT WORTH TX
502 AM CST SUN NOV 25 2007 .DISCUSSION... POWERFUL UPPER LEVEL LOW CURRENTLY MOVING TOWARD THE BIG BEND REGION OF TEXAS AND WILL BEGIN TO PIVOT TOWARD THE NORTHEAST LATER TODAY. THE MODELS FORECAST THE UPPER LEVEL LOW TO CROSS RIGHT OVER THE NW CWA...WHICH IS JUST A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH THAN PREVIOUS RUNS. CURRENT ACARS SOUNDINGS DO SHOW AN ABOVE FREEZING LAYER HOLDING STRONG NEAR 800 MB OVER THE CENTRAL CWA. RADAR LOOP OF THE PAST SEVERAL HOURS CONFIRMS THE PRESENCE OF BRIGHT BANDING CAUSED BY MELTING SNOW AT 5000 TO 7000 FT. ACROSS THE EASTERN ZONES...GREATER LOW LEVEL INSTABILITY IS ALLOWING FOR SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS. NEEDLESS TO SAY...WILL CONTINUE THE FORECAST OF CATEGORICAL POPS ACROSS ALL OF NORTH TEXAS FOR THIS MORNING. THE PRECIPITATION WILL BEGIN TO WANE BY AFTERNOON AS A DRY SLOT WORKS INTO THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN ZONES. SNOW HAS YET TO MAKE IT TO THE GROUND IN ANY SIGNIFICANT QUANTITY ACROSS MUCH OF TEXAS...BUT MODEL FORECASTS CONTINUE TO DEPICT COOLING OF THE LOW LEVELS WITH THE WARM NOSE ACROSS THE WESTERN ZONES DROPPING BELOW FREEZING DURING THE DAY WITH THE APPROACH OF THE UPPER LOW. DYNAMIC FORCING ASSOCIATED WITH THE CORE OF AN UPPER LOW OFTEN COMPENSATES FOR LACK OF COLD AIR...AS IT LIFTS AND COOLS THE ENTIRE COLUMN ADIABATICALLY. THE LAST EXAMPLE OF THIS WAS LATE MARCH OF 2005 WHEN A SURPRISE BAND OF SNOW OCCURRED FROM WEATHERFORD TO BENBROOK ON EASTER SUNDAY MORNING. WITH THE UPPER LEVEL LOW TRACKING OVER THE NW CWA AROUND SUNSET TONIGHT... WE WILL CONTINUE TO MENTION SNOW MIXING WITH RAIN WITH FAIRLY HIGH CONFIDENCE TO THE NW OF A COMANCHE TO WEATHERFORD TO SHERMAN LINE. WE WILL MENTION SNOW FLURRIES JUST TO THE EAST OF THIS LINE WHERE CONFIDENCE IN SNOW FLAKES SURVIVING THE TRIP THROUGH THE ABOVE FREEZING WARM NOSE IS LOWER. THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY HAS BEEN EXTENDED THROUGH MIDNIGHT FOR 6 OF OUR NW COUNTIES WHERE BRIEF BURSTS OF HEAVY/WET SNOW ARE POSSIBLE TODAY AND THIS EVENING. WITHIN HEAVY BANDS OF SNOW ACROSS THE NW A BRIEF ACCUMULATION OF AN INCH OR SO IS POSSIBLE BEFORE GRADUAL MELTING OCCURS. OTHERWISE...TEMPS ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF NORTH TEXAS WILL BE SAFELY ABOVE FREEZING. WRAP AROUND PRECIPITATION WILL QUICKLY EXIT NORTH TEXAS BY MIDNIGHT WITH SOME CLEARING OCCURRING ACROSS THE SW COUNTIES WHERE FREEZING TEMPS ARE POSSIBLE. A WARM-UP WILL OCCUR MONDAY AND TUESDAY AS SW FLOW AND SUBSIDENCE BEHIND THE STORM SYSTEM RESULTS IN WARMING LOW LEVEL TEMPS. THE MODELS ARE IN A BIT OF DISAGREEMENT IN THE EXTENDED WITH THE TIMING OF A FRONT/POPS. WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE GFS...WITH RESPECT TO THE ECMWF SOLUTION. WILL BACK OFF ON THE SOUTHWARD PUSH OF THE FRONT EXPECTED LATE WEDNESDAY AND HANG ON TO WARMER TEMPS/MOISTURE ACROSS THE SOUTHERN ZONES. ECMWF FORECASTS AN ACTIVE SUBTROPICAL BRANCH AND HAS RAIN ON THURSDAY WHILE GFS IS DRY. WILL SHOW TEMPERATURES NEAR CLIMO AND WAIT UNTIL FRIDAY TO BRING RAIN CHANCES IN THE FORECAST. ANOTHER MODEL RUN OR TWO SHOULD CLEAR UP THIS UNCERTAINTY AND WILL LET LATER SHIFTS DECIDE IF POPS ON THURSDAY NEED TO BE ADDED. TR.92 && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... DALLAS-FT. WORTH, TX 43 37 57 34 64 / 100 30 0 0 0 WACO, TX 45 37 59 35 64 / 100 10 0 0 0 PARIS, TX 44 38 54 33 62 / 100 30 0 0 0 DENTON, TX 42 36 57 31 63 / 100 40 0 0 0 MCKINNEY, TX 43 36 55 30 62 / 100 30 0 0 0 DALLAS, TX 44 39 57 36 64 / 100 30 0 0 0 TERRELL, TX 44 39 56 35 63 / 100 20 0 0 0 CORSICANA, TX 46 38 58 36 64 / 100 10 0 0 0 TEMPLE, TX 45 36 61 36 65 / 90 10 0 0 0 && .FWD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL MIDNIGHT CST TONIGHT FOR THE FOLLOWING ZONES: TXZ091-100-101-115-116-129. && $$ 92/75

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION FOR SOUTHEAST SD/SOUTHWEST MN/NORTHWEST IA
NWS SIOUX FALLS SD
1014 AM CST TUE NOV 27 2007 .DISCUSSION... WK BUBBLE OF ARCTIC HIGH PRESSURE NOSING ALG MN BORDER THIS MORNING WITH TMPS THIS MORNING CLOSING ON ZERO ACRS NRN/NERN CWA. CHALLENGING TEMPERATURE UPDATE FOR TDA. FORMIDIBLE INVERSION THIS MORNING AS SHOWN ON NRN RAOBS AND LOCAL KSUX/KFSD TAMDAR DATA...BUT MUCH LESS LOW LVL INTRUSION AS MOVE SWRD TOWARD KOAX. CLOUDS BECOMING A MAJOR ISSUE AS WELL...AS CI SHIELD THICKENS THIS MORNING FROM W. IN THE SHORT TERM...SOME MAJOR SLOWING OF WARMING NEEDED... AND LKLY WL FIND TMPS COMING UP SHORT TO POTENTIAL WITH THICKER CLDS MOVING IN. HOWEVER...DO HAVE SE GRADIENT INCREASING SIGNIFICANTLY THRU THE DAY...WITH LOWEST GATE WINDS ALREADY 45-50 KTS AT MRR. THIS MAY KEEP TMPS LARGELY ON THE STEADY SIDE GOING INTO EARLY EVENING. LOOKING AHEAD TO TONIGHT...SFC WAVE LKLY TO PASS NR MO VLY OVERNIGHT...MARKING LKLY NWRD PUSH OF SFC BNDRY DURING EVENING. MDLS ARE INTENT ON DEVELOPING LOWER CLDS NEAR CONVERGENCE ZONE WITHIN SFC LOW/INV TROUGH/WARM FRONT INTERSECTION. WITH LACK OF SATURATION AT ICE NUCLEATION TMPS...WONDER IF ANY PRECIP WOULD BE MORE IN FORM OF FZDZ IF CAN GET ANY GOING AT ALL. MAIN PUSH OF COLD AIR WL MOVE IN DURING THE DAY WEDNESDAY BEHIND A SECONDARY CDFNT. && .AVIATION... VFR CONDITIONS INTO THE OVERNIGHT...WHEN APPEARS THAT SOME MVFR/IFR CLDS LKLY TO DEVELOP NR CDFNT. LOOKS LIKE IF THERE IS ANY PCPN IN THE PERIOD...WOULD BE IN THE FORM OF FZDZ ARND KFSD IN 07Z-10Z WINDOW ARND FROPA. && .PREV DISCUSSION... COLD CANADIAN AIR CONTINUES TO PUSH INTO THE AREA FOLLOWING THE PASSAGE OF A STRONG COLD FRONT OVERNIGHT. SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL DEVELOP LATER TODAY AS APPROACHING UPPER TROUGH...CURRENTLY OVER THE NW CONUS...INDUCES LEE CYCLOGENESIS AS IT PROGRESSES ACROSS THE ROCKIES. RELATIVELY SHALLOW COLD AIR WILL TAKE SOME TIME TO MODERATE...SO DROPPED HIGH TEMPERATURES A GOOD DEAL. WAS NOT SURE HOW COLD TO GO IN THE SW CWA...AS WARM AIR MAY BE ABLE TO MIX DOWN SOME BY MID AFTERNOON...PUSHING TEMPERATURES UP TO AROUND 40...BUT THAT DEPENDS ON HOW FAST WARM AIR RETURNS. WARM AIR CONTINUES TO ADVECT NWRD TONIGHT...WHICH ALONG WITH SRLY WINDS AND CLOUD COVER...SHOULD KEEP TEMPERATURES FROM FALLING MUCH...AND COULD SEE SOME PLACE IN THE EAST RISE A FEW DEGREES AFTER BOTTOMING OUT IN THE EVENING. ALTHOUGH ANOTHER COLD FRONT IS SCHEDULED AFTER MIDNIGHT TONIGHT IN THE WEST...AS FIRST PIECES OF UPPER ENERGY AND STRONG UPPER JET MOVES INTO THE NRN PLAINS. THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR SOME LIGHT SNOW OR SLEET WITH THE WAA ADVECTION PUSH. NOT EXPECTING ANY SNOW ACCUMULATION AT THIS TIME...AS RETURN OF MOISTURE IS A LITTLE SLOW AND LOW LEVELS VERY DRY INITIALLY...BUT WOULD NOT TAKE MUCH MORE MOISTURE FOR SOME SMALL ACCUMULATIONS INTO SW MN. VERY WINDY FOR WEDNESDAY...WILL LIKELY NEED A WIND ADVISORY AS COLD AIR AGAIN POURS INTO THE AREA. EXPECTING NW WINDS IN THE 25 TO 35 MPH RANGE WITH GUSTS REACHING 45 MPH...OF COURSE THIS WILL LARGELY DEPEND ON THE EXTENT OF THE COLD AIR SURGE. ALSO EXPECT SOME SNOW FLURRIES AS THE UPPER TROUGH MOVES ACROSS THE AREA...BUT NOTHING MORE THEN THAT FOR PRECIPITATION. THE REST OF THE FORECAST PERIOD LOOKS TRICKY GIVEN AS FAST WRLY FLOW PERSISTS. TIMING WILL PLAY A BIG ROLE IN TEMPERATURES AND CLOUD COVER. WILL HAVE TO WATCH THU NIGHT/FRI MORNING TIME FRAME FOR THE CHANCE OF A QUICK SHOT OF LIGHT SNOW. NAM MORE BULLISH WITH THE CHANCES BUT SEEMED A BIT QUESTIONABLE...GENERATING PRECIPITATION ALONG THE SFC FRONT...AND JET DYNAMICS DID NOT SEEM FAVORABLE. OTHERWISE...NEXT CHANCE FOR PRECIPITATION IS THE WEEKEND...BUT AGAIN CHANCES REMAIN LOW UNDER DRY FAST WRLY FLOW. LIEBL && .FSD WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SD...NONE. MN...NONE. IA...NONE. NE...NONE. && $$ CHAPMAN
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
956 AM CST TUE NOV 27 2007 .DISCUSSION... ONLY UPDATE MADE THIS MORNING WAS TO ADJUST THE CLOUD GRIDS A LITTLE BIT TO ACCOUNT FOR THE ERODING DECK NEAR AND ALONG THE COAST. SKIES SHOULD BE MOSTLY SUNNY AREAWIDE THIS AFTERNOON. LOOKS LIKE MOST LOCATIONS WILL SEE HIGHS IN THE LOWER TO MID 60S. EARLY LOOK AT THE 12Z MODELS SUPPORTS OUR CURRENT RAIN FREE FORECAST THROUGH THE END OF THE WEEK. 42 && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 602 AM CST TUE NOV 27 2007/ AVIATION... NEEDED TO REWORK THE MORNING PERIOD AS CLOUD DECK HAS HELD TOGETHER COMING ACROSS GALVESTON BAY AND INTO THE GLS-LVJ-HOU-IAH-DWH SITES. ACARS SOUNDING INTO IAH SHOWED A VERY THIN LAYER OF HIGH RH AROUND 2500 FT AND THIS CORRELATES WITH THIS INTRUSIVE DECK. EXPECT TO SEE THIS MIX OUT WITH A LITTLE HEATING SO BY 1400Z EXPECTING SCT CONDITIONS. STILL LOOKING AS THOUGH FOG WILL BE A BIT MORE WIDESPREAD ON WEDNESDAY MORNING. HAVE HIT MOST OF THE SITES WITH AT LEAST MVFR 4-5SM BR...THE USUAL CULPRITS CXO/LBX HAVE HIT HARDER. 45 DISCUSSION... SOME LOW CLOUDS TRYING TO MAKE THEIR WAY BACK INTO THE REGION FROM THE ENE THIS MORNING BUT NOT EXPECTING THEM TO PERSIST THROUGH THE AFTN HOURS. FAIRLY DRY AIRMASS IN PLACE IN THE WAKE OF THIS LATEST FRONT. WEAK ONSHORE WINDS PROGGED FOR TOMORROW BUT NOT MUCH RETURN MOISTURE GIVEN THE SWD PUSH/EXTENT OF THE CURRENT AIRMASS. THUS WE SHOULD SEE VERY LITTLE PCPN WITH THE NEXT FRONT STILL SLATED ON/OR ABOUT VERY LATE WED NITE/VERY EARLY THU MORNING. A MORE ZONAL PAT- TERN ALOFT IN THE WORKS FOR THE LATTER PART OF THE WEEK WITH A SFC HIGH MOVING SLOWLY TOWARD THE EASTERN SEABOARD. THIS SHOULD SET UP A DEEPER/LONGER LASTING ONSHORE FLOW FOR THE WEEKEND (AND THE SUB- SEQUENT INCREASE OF MOISTURE/POPS FOR THIS TIMEFRAME). EXTD MODELS A BIT IFFY WITH TIMING BUT MOST INDICATE LOWER TEMPS AND NLY WINDS AREAWIDE BY MON IN THE WAKE OF ANOTHER FROPA. 41 MARINE... OVER THE COASTAL WATERS THE WINDS HAVE RELAXED AND TIDES ARE RUNNING SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL. EXPECT THE WINDS HOLD IN THE 10 TO 15 KNOT RANGE AS THE HIGH OVER ACT-PSN AREA SLIPS EAST AND WINDS TO COME AROUND TO THE EAST TONIGHT. GRADIENT DROPS OFF DRAMATICALLY WEDNESDAY DURING THE DAY AND EXPECT WINDS TO FLIP FLOP ALL OVER THE COMPASS AT AROUND 5 KNOTS. THE FRONT SHOULD PUSH OFFSHORE THURSDAY 06-12Z. WILL PROBABLY NEED A SCEC THURSDAY. SOUTHERLY FLOW FRIDAY AM THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT MAY NEED A SCEC DURING THE PEAK OF THE ONSHORE FLOW SATURDAY NIGHT. A DECENT COLD FRONT SHOULD MOVE OFFSHORE SUNDAY NIGHT (IF THE GFS IS CORRECT). 45 && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... COLLEGE STATION (CLL) 63 44 70 50 68 / 0 0 10 10 10 HOUSTON (IAH) 63 45 70 51 67 / 0 0 10 10 10 GALVESTON (GLS) 62 55 69 59 68 / 0 0 10 10 10 && .HGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... TX...NONE. GM...NONE. && $$ DISCUSSION...42 AVIATION/MARINE...43
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
602 AM CST TUE NOV 27 2007 .AVIATION... NEEDED TO REWORK THE MORNING PERIOD AS CLOUD DECK HAS HELD TOGETHER COMING ACROSS GALVESTON BAY AND INTO THE GLS-LVJ-HOU-IAH-DWH SITES. ACARS SOUNDING INTO IAH SHOWED A VERY THIN LAYER OF HIGH RH AROUND 2500 FT AND THIS CORRELATES WITH THIS INTRUSIVE DECK. EXPECT TO SEE THIS MIX OUT WITH A LITTLE HEATING SO BY 1400Z EXPECTING SCT CONDITIONS. STILL LOOKING AS THOUGH FOG WILL BE A BIT MORE WIDESPREAD ON WEDNESDAY MORNING. HAVE HIT MOST OF THE SITES WITH AT LEAST MVFR 4-5SM BR...THE USUAL CULPRITS CXO/LBX HAVE HIT HARDER. 45 && .DISCUSSION... SOME LOW CLOUDS TRYING TO MAKE THEIR WAY BACK INTO THE REGION FROM THE ENE THIS MORNING BUT NOT EXPECTING THEM TO PERSIST THROUGH THE AFTN HOURS. FAIRLY DRY AIRMASS IN PLACE IN THE WAKE OF THIS LATEST FRONT. WEAK ONSHORE WINDS PROGGED FOR TOMORROW BUT NOT MUCH RETURN MOISTURE GIVEN THE SWD PUSH/EXTENT OF THE CURRENT AIRMASS. THUS WE SHOULD SEE VERY LITTLE PCPN WITH THE NEXT FRONT STILL SLATED ON/OR ABOUT VERY LATE WED NITE/VERY EARLY THU MORNING. A MORE ZONAL PAT- TERN ALOFT IN THE WORKS FOR THE LATTER PART OF THE WEEK WITH A SFC HIGH MOVING SLOWLY TOWARD THE EASTERN SEABOARD. THIS SHOULD SET UP A DEEPER/LONGER LASTING ONSHORE FLOW FOR THE WEEKEND (AND THE SUB- SEQUENT INCREASE OF MOISTURE/POPS FOR THIS TIMEFRAME). EXTD MODELS A BIT IFFY WITH TIMING BUT MOST INDICATE LOWER TEMPS AND NLY WINDS AREAWIDE BY MON IN THE WAKE OF ANOTHER FROPA. 41 && .MARINE... OVER THE COASTAL WATERS THE WINDS HAVE RELAXED AND TIDES ARE RUNNING SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL. EXPECT THE WINDS HOLD IN THE 10 TO 15 KNOT RANGE AS THE HIGH OVER ACT-PSN AREA SLIPS EAST AND WINDS TO COME AROUND TO THE EAST TONIGHT. GRADIENT DROPS OFF DRAMATICALLY WEDNESDAY DURING THE DAY AND EXPECT WINDS TO FLIP FLOP ALL OVER THE COMPASS AT AROUND 5 KNOTS. THE FRONT SHOULD PUSH OFFSHORE THURSDAY 06-12Z. WILL PROBABLY NEED A SCEC THURSDAY. SOUTHERLY FLOW FRIDAY AM THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT MAY NEED A SCEC DURING THE PEAK OF THE ONSHORE FLOW SATURDAY NIGHT. A DECENT COLD FRONT SHOULD MOVE OFFSHORE SUNDAY NIGHT (IF THE GFS IS CORRECT). 45 && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... COLLEGE STATION (CLL) 63 44 70 50 68 / 0 0 10 10 10 HOUSTON (IAH) 63 45 70 51 67 / 0 0 10 10 10 GALVESTON (GLS) 62 55 69 59 68 / 0 0 10 10 10 && .HGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... TX...NONE. GM...NONE. && $$

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
1110 AM CST TUE NOV 27 2007 .AVIATION... CLOUDS WILL CONTINUE TO PRODUCE LOW CIGS NEAR GLS/LBX THRU 19Z. OTHERWISE VFR CONDITIONS TO PREVAIL THROUGH 09Z. PATCHY FOG POSSIBLE 10-14Z OTHERWISE VFR THROUGH 18Z. 43 .DISCUSSION... ONLY UPDATE MADE THIS MORNING WAS TO ADJUST THE CLOUD GRIDS A LITTLE BIT TO ACCOUNT FOR THE ERODING DECK NEAR AND ALONG THE COAST. SKIES SHOULD BE MOSTLY SUNNY AREAWIDE THIS AFTERNOON. LOOKS LIKE MOST LOCATIONS WILL SEE HIGHS IN THE LOWER TO MID 60S. EARLY LOOK AT THE 12Z MODELS SUPPORTS OUR CURRENT RAIN FREE FORECAST THROUGH THE END OF THE WEEK. 42 && .PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 602 AM CST TUE NOV 27 2007/ AVIATION... NEEDED TO REWORK THE MORNING PERIOD AS CLOUD DECK HAS HELD TOGETHER COMING ACROSS GALVESTON BAY AND INTO THE GLS-LVJ-HOU-IAH-DWH SITES. ACARS SOUNDING INTO IAH SHOWED A VERY THIN LAYER OF HIGH RH AROUND 2500 FT AND THIS CORRELATES WITH THIS INTRUSIVE DECK. EXPECT TO SEE THIS MIX OUT WITH A LITTLE HEATING SO BY 1400Z EXPECTING SCT CONDITIONS. STILL LOOKING AS THOUGH FOG WILL BE A BIT MORE WIDESPREAD ON WEDNESDAY MORNING. HAVE HIT MOST OF THE SITES WITH AT LEAST MVFR 4-5SM BR...THE USUAL CULPRITS CXO/LBX HAVE HIT HARDER. 45 DISCUSSION... SOME LOW CLOUDS TRYING TO MAKE THEIR WAY BACK INTO THE REGION FROM THE ENE THIS MORNING BUT NOT EXPECTING THEM TO PERSIST THROUGH THE AFTN HOURS. FAIRLY DRY AIRMASS IN PLACE IN THE WAKE OF THIS LATEST FRONT. WEAK ONSHORE WINDS PROGGED FOR TOMORROW BUT NOT MUCH RETURN MOISTURE GIVEN THE SWD PUSH/EXTENT OF THE CURRENT AIRMASS. THUS WE SHOULD SEE VERY LITTLE PCPN WITH THE NEXT FRONT STILL SLATED ON/OR ABOUT VERY LATE WED NITE/VERY EARLY THU MORNING. A MORE ZONAL PAT- TERN ALOFT IN THE WORKS FOR THE LATTER PART OF THE WEEK WITH A SFC HIGH MOVING SLOWLY TOWARD THE EASTERN SEABOARD. THIS SHOULD SET UP A DEEPER/LONGER LASTING ONSHORE FLOW FOR THE WEEKEND (AND THE SUB- SEQUENT INCREASE OF MOISTURE/POPS FOR THIS TIMEFRAME). EXTD MODELS A BIT IFFY WITH TIMING BUT MOST INDICATE LOWER TEMPS AND NLY WINDS AREAWIDE BY MON IN THE WAKE OF ANOTHER FROPA. 41 MARINE... OVER THE COASTAL WATERS THE WINDS HAVE RELAXED AND TIDES ARE RUNNING SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL. EXPECT THE WINDS HOLD IN THE 10 TO 15 KNOT RANGE AS THE HIGH OVER ACT-PSN AREA SLIPS EAST AND WINDS TO COME AROUND TO THE EAST TONIGHT. GRADIENT DROPS OFF DRAMATICALLY WEDNESDAY DURING THE DAY AND EXPECT WINDS TO FLIP FLOP ALL OVER THE COMPASS AT AROUND 5 KNOTS. THE FRONT SHOULD PUSH OFFSHORE THURSDAY 06-12Z. WILL PROBABLY NEED A SCEC THURSDAY. SOUTHERLY FLOW FRIDAY AM THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT MAY NEED A SCEC DURING THE PEAK OF THE ONSHORE FLOW SATURDAY NIGHT. A DECENT COLD FRONT SHOULD MOVE OFFSHORE SUNDAY NIGHT (IF THE GFS IS CORRECT). 45 && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS... COLLEGE STATION (CLL) 63 44 70 50 68 / 0 0 10 10 10 HOUSTON (IAH) 63 45 70 51 67 / 0 0 10 10 10 GALVESTON (GLS) 62 55 69 59 68 / 0 0 10 10 10 && .HGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... TX...NONE. GM...NONE. && $$ DISCUSSION...42 AVIATION/MARINE...43