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THE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE: THE SENATE WILL COME TO ORDER.
TODAY'S PRAYER WILL BE OFFERED BY OUR GUEST CHAPLAIN, THE MOST
REVEREND ROGER KAFFER, AUXILIARY BISHOP, JOLIET, ILLINOIS. WE
ARE GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US
GUEST CHAPLAIN: THANK YOU. LET US PRAY. GOD BLESS OUR SENATORS,
LEADERS WE LOVE. STAND BESIDE THEM AND GUIDE THEM DAY BE NIGHT
WITH YOUR LIGHT FROM ABOVE. FROM RHODE ISLAND TO NEVADA, TO THE
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ROCKIES WHITE WITH SNOW, GOD HELP OUR SENATORS, YOUR WILL TO
KNOW. GOD HELP OUR SENATORS IN WISDOM GROW. GOD BLESS OUR
SENATORS, WOMEN AND MEN GIVE THEM COURAGE AND PATIENCE TO SHARE
INSIGHTS AGAIN AND AGAIN. FATHER, NO ONE HAS ALL ANSWERS, BUT
TOGETHER HELP THEM FIND, ANSWERS THAT COME FROM YOU TO THOSE
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NOT BLIND. IN GOD WE TRUST AND PRAY, TEACH US YOUR MIND. LIFE,
JUSTICE, LIBERTY, HAPPINESS, TOO, FOUNDING FATHERS HAVE TAUGHT
US, GOD ENDOWED THESE ARE OURS TO PURSUE. WHEN OUR SENATE MEETS
IN SESSION TO DETERMINE WHAT IS BEST, GOD BLESS OUR SENATORS IN
TRUTH'S GREAT QUEST, GOD BLESS OUR SENATORS NORTH, SOUTH, EAST,
WEST. THROUGH CHRIST OUR LORD IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF
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THE SON AND OF THE HOLLY SPIRIT, AMEN.
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THE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE: SENATOR FITZGERALD IS NOW DESIGNATED
TO LEAD THE SENATE IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
MR. FITZGERALD:I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE
NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR
ALL.
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THE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE: THANK YOU, VERY MUCH.
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MR. FITZGERALD: MR. PRESIDENT?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM ILLINOIS.
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MR. FITZGERALD: MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR A
COUPLE OF MOMENTS ABOUT BISHOP ROGER KAFFER FROM JOLIET,
ILLINOIS, WHO JUST GAVE THE OPENING PRAYER THIS MORNING. BISHOP
KAFFER IS AN OLD FRIEND OF MY FAMILY. IN FACT HE WENT TO GRADE
SCHOOL AND TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH MY MOTHER BACK IN JOLIET,
ILLINOIS, WENT TO SAINT RAYMOND'S GRADE SCHOOL IN JOLIET
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TOWNSHIP. HE IS NOW THE AUXILLARY BISHOP IN THE JOLIET DIOCESE
OUTSIDE OF CHICAGO, ILLINOIS, AND I WANTED TO THANK HIM FOR HIS
PRAYER AND WELCOME HIM TO THE UNITED STATES SENATE. THANK YOU,
BISHOP, WE APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. A
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SENATOR: MR. PRESIDENT?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM MISSOURI.
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MR. ASHCROFT: MR. PRESIDENT, TODAY THE SENATE WILL BE IN A
PERIOD OF MORNING BUSINESS UNTIL THE SENATE RECESSES FOR THE
WEEKLY PARTY CONFERENCE
LUNCHES FROM 12:30 UNTIL 2:15 P.M. WHEN THE SENATE RECONVENES
IT WILL BEGIN CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 5, THE SOCIAL SECURITY
EARNINGS LEGISLATION. UNDER A PREVIOUS AGREEMENT, THERE WILL BE
APPROXIMATELY FOUR HOURS OF DEBATE WITH THREE AMENDMENTS IN
ORDER TO THE BILL. ANY NECESSARY VOTES ON THOSE AMENDMENTS WILL
OCCUR THIS AFTERNOON WITH A VOTE ON FINAL PASSAGE TO OCCUR ON
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WEDNESDAY MORNING. FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE WEEK THE SENATE MAY
BEGIN CONSIDERATION OF THE CROP INSURANCE LEGISLATION OR ANY
OTHER LEGISLATIVE OR EXECUTIVE CANDAR ITEMS AVAILABLE FOR
ACTION. I THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR ATTENTION. MR. REID:
MR. PRESIDENT?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA.
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MR. REID: MR. PRESIDENT, I KNOW THE SENATOR FROM MISSOURI WANTS
TO SPEAK AS IF IN MORNING BUSINESS. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE
ARE READY TO PROCEED ON THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN OUTLINED. WE
ARE ANXIOUS TO GET TO THE EARNINGS LIMIT WITHDRAWAL AS FAR AS
SOCIAL SECURITY. ALSO, MR. PRESIDENT, WE ARE ANXIOUS TO LOOK
FORWARD TO THE BUDGET DEBATE WHICH WILL TAKE PLACE, WE HOPE,
NEXT WEEK. AND WE WOULD HOPE THAT WE KEEP OUR EYES EYE ON THE
PRIZE AND THAT IS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE $5 TRILLION DEBT
THAT IS ACCUMULATED RECOGNIZING THAT IS FOR EVERYBODY IN
AMERICA, A TAX CUT.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDER THE LEADERSHIP
TIME IS RESERVED AND THERE WILL NOW BE A PERIOD OF TIME FOR THE
TRANSACTION OF MORNING BUSINESS NOT TO EXTEND
BEYOND THE HOUR OF 12:30 P.M. WITH SENATORS PERMITTED TO SPEAK
FOR UP TO TEN MINUTES EACH. ALSO UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDER THE
SENATOR FROM MISSOURI, MR. ASHCROFT, IS NOW RECOGNIZED TO SPEAK
FOR UP TO 15 MINUTES. THE SENATOR FROM MISSOURI.
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MR. ASHCROFT: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AS HAS BEEN
NOTICED, WE WILL BE DEALING TODAY WITH THE REPEAL OF THE SOCIAL
SECURITY EARNINGS LIMIT. THIS IS SOMETHING WHICH I THINK
INDIVIDUALS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE -- IT IS THE KIND OF
THING THAT WE ARE EAGER TO DEAL WITH. WHAT IS THE EARNINGS
LIMIT?
THE EARNINGS LIMIT IS SIMPLY A WAY OF SAYING THAT FOR CITIZENS
BETWEEN 65 AND 70 YEARS OF AGE, THEY, IF THEY EARN OVER A
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MODEST AMOUNT OF MONEY WHEN THEY EARN OUTSIDE INCOME BY
WORKING, THE GOVERNMENT DUCTS FROM THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY $1 FOR
EVERY $3 THEY EARN. THAT IS FOR EVERY -- FOR EVERY DOLLAR OVER
$17,000, THE GOVERNMENT REDUCES THE BENEFITS $1 FOR EVERY $3 OF
EARNING. THIS MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR A NUMBER OF PEOPLE
WHO ARE BETWEEN 65 AND 70 YEARS OF AGE, WANT BE ABLE TO
SUSTAIN THEMSELVES, WANT TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEIR FAMILIES,
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WANT TO BE ABLE TO REMAIN INDEPENDENT AND NOT DEPENDENT ON
GOVERNMENT, AND YET GOVERNMENT HAS THIS RATHER ON HUSBAND
DISCRIMINATORY -- ONEROUS DISCRIMINATORY EFFECT ON THEIR WORK
HABITS. WE SAY IF YOU MAKE MONEY, WE WILL TAKE AWAY MONEY YOU
PREVIOUSLY EARNED AS A SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFIT. IT IS A
MISGUIDED, OUTDATED RELIC OF A TIME WHEN JOBS WERE SCARCE,
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UNEMPLOYMENT WAS HIGH, WHEN PEOPLE DID NOT LIVE AS LONG AND
HEALTHY A LIFE AS THEY DO TODAY, AND IT IS CLEARLY A
DISINCENTIVE FOR SENIOR TOSS WORK. BY TELLING SENIORS THAT IF
YOU WORK HARD AND YOU EARN MONEY, WE WILL JUST TAKE IT AWAY
FROM YOU, OR WE WILL DEDUCT IT FROM YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY, WE
REALLY ARE SAYING TO SENIORS, "SENIORS NEED NOT APPLY, SENIORS
NEED NOT ASPIRE TO A BETTER LIFE, SENIORS NEED NOT EXPECT TO
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REMAIN INDEPENDENT" -- ALL OF THOSE ARE THE WRONG STATEMENTS TO
BE MAKING TO OUR SENIORS. THERE ARE A GREAT NUMBER OF SENIORS
WHO ARE WORKING ANYHOW AND PAYING A PENALTY FOR WORKING. AND IT
SEEMS STRANGE THAT IN A COUNTRY THAT NEE WORKERS, WE ARE ASKING
PEOPLE TO PAY A HIGH PENALTY FOR WORKING. 1.2 MILLION WORKING
SENIORS ARE PENALIZED NOW. 17,523 WORKING SENIORS IN MISSOURI
SUFFER LOSSES IN THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY AS A RESULT OF THEIR
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INDUSTRY AND AS A RESULT OF THEIR WILLINGNESS TO WORK. BUT THE
ACTUAL NUMBER OF SENIORS THAT IS AFFECTED BY THIS PERNICIOUS
IDEA OF DISCRIMINATING AGAINST SENIORS IN THE WORKPLACE, IS
MUCH GREATER THAN THIS 1.2 MILLION NATIONWIDE OR 17,523 IN THE
STATE OF MISSOURI. BECAUSE THERE ARE MILLIONS OF SENIOR WHO IS
CHOOSE NOT TO WORK, OR CHOOSE TO WORK ONLY A SMALL AMOUNT
BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO WORK IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT WILL
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ERODE OR UNDERCUT, UNDERMINE, DIMINISH THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY
INCOME. NOW KEEPING SENIORS OUT OF OUR WORKFORCE HAS A SERIOUS
CONSEQUENCE. IT IS AGAINST OUR BEST INTEREST TO REMOVE THE
KINDS OF THINGS THAT THE SENIORS DO BRING TO THE WORKFORCE.
THEY ARE GREAT WORKERS. THEY ARE SKILLED WORKERS. THEY ARE
WORKERS OF VALUE AND EXPERIENCE. CURRENT UNEMPLOYMENT RATE OF
4% INDICATES TO US THAT WE NEED SKILLED AND EXPERIENCED
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WORKERS. SENIORS ARE HIGHLY VALUABLE MEMBERS OF THE WORKFORCE.
THEIR CONTINUING CONTRIBUTIONS ARE CRUCIAL. THE ONLY LIMIT TO
WHAT THEY HAVE TO OFFER IS THE EARNINGS LIMIT AND WE SHOULD NOT
LIMIT WHAT GOOD PEOPLE CAN OFFER TO THIS COUNTRY. NOW, I HAVE
SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME IN MY HOME STATE OF MISSOURI TALKING
WITH CONSTITUENTS, AND THERE ARE REFER LIFE EXAMPLES. BEVERLY
PACKS TON FROM BELLTON, MISSOURI, WHO REPRESENTS THE GREEN
THUMB ORGANIZATION, SAYS HUNDREDS OF SENIORS WOULD BE EAGER TO
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WORK OUT THE ERX TEST. FURTHERMORE SOME DON'T TRY TO WORK FOR
FEAR THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION MIGHT TAKE BENEFITS
AWAY. SENIORS DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO VISIT A C.P.A. TO FIND OUT
IF THEY GO TO WORK IF THEY WILL LOSE BENEFITS OR BE TAXED AT
SUCH A HIGH RATE THAT WORKING WILL ACTUALLY END UP COSTING
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