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THE SENATOR FROM OREGON.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR HAS 40 SEJDS SMITHS SMITHS I
THANK THE SENATOR FROM.
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MR. SMITH: I THANK THE SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS. I JOIN THE
SPIRIT OF THIS ISSUE TO RESOLVE A SITUATION I TRULY BELIEVE IS
BROKEN. IF WE DON'T SUCCEED IN THIS WE ARE GOING TO SAY WE ARE
CONTENT WITH THE STATUS QUO. THE STATUS QUO IS UNACCEPTABLE.
THESE PEOPLE ARE HERE IN THIS COUNTRY, THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY,
THERE OUGHT TO BE A WAY IN WHICH THEY CAN BE HERE LEGALLY TO DO
THIS WORK THEY WANT TO DO, WE NEED THEM TO DO, IN ORDER TO
AVOID A SERIOUS CRIES SINCE ON THE AMERICAN FARM. SO I ASK MY
COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. IT IS HISTORIC. IT IS
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IMPORTANT. BUT IT IS ALSO A WORK IN PROGRESS. BUT THIS BILL
REPRESENTS PROGRESS. I THANK THE PRESIDENT AND YIELD THE FLOOR.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: ALL TIME IS EXPIRED. THE QUESTION IS ON
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THE KENNEDY SECOND-DEGREE AMENDMENT. MR. GREGG: MR. PRESIDENT?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE.
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MR. KENNEDY: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK THAT THE UNDERLYING AMENDMENT
BE MODIFIED WITH OUR AMENDMENT. I GUESS THAT CAN BE ONLY -- I
WOULD ASK CONSENT THAT IT BE SO DONE.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: UNANIMOUS CONSENT REQUEST. IS THERE
OBJECTION?
HEARING NONE SO ORDERED.
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MR. KENNEDY: AS I UNDERSTAND IT, MR. PRESIDENT, THE PROBABLY.
THE SENATOR FROM CALIFORNIA AND MASSACHUSETTS HAVE BEEN
INCLUDED IN THE UNDERLYING AMENDMENT?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR IS CORRECT.
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MR. KENNEDY: I THANK THE CHAIR. MR. GREGG: MR. PRESIDENT?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE.
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MR. GREGG: FOR THE INFORMATION OF OUR MEMBERS WE WILL VOTE TO
ON THIS AMENDMENT AND PROCEED TO FINAL PASSAGE AT
APPROXIMATELY 3:30. MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD SEND TO THE DESK A
COLLOQUY AND ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT IT BE INCLUDED IN THE
RECORD.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.
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MR. GREGG: MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD SEND TO THE DESK ON BEHALF OF
SENATOR SPECTER A TECHNICAL AMENDMENT TO THE CRAIG AMENDMENT
32361 AND ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT IT BE AGREED TO.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. THE CLERK WILL REPORT.
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THE CLERK: --
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE AMENDMENT THAT
WAS AGREED TO YESTERDAY IS MODIFIED.
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MR. GREGG: MR. PRESIDENT, I MAKE A POINT OF ORDER THAT A QUORUM
IS NOT PRESENT.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.
QUORUM CALL:
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MR. GREGG: MR. PRESIDENT?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE.
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MR. GREGG: I ASK PROCEEDINGS UNDER THE QUORUM CALL BE SET
ASIDE.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.
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MR. GREGG: MR. PRESIDENT, WHILE I AM WAITING I WOULD LIKE TO
TAKE A MOMENT BECAUSE WE ARE HOPEFULLY GOING TO MOVE TO FINAL
PASSAGE ON THE VOTE ON THE SMITH AMENDMENT IS TAKEN CARE OF. I
WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THE EXTRAORDINARILY HARD
WORK THAT THE STAFF OF BOTH COMMITTEES WITH EXTRAORDINARILY
HARD WORK HE THEY HAVE PUT INTO THIS, BOTH THE MAJORITY STAFF
AND MINORITY STAFF SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS BRINGING THIS BILL
FORWARD. IT IS A COMPLICATED BILL. WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY SPENT THE
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LAST THREE DAYS -- FOUR DAYS, ALMOST -- WORKING ON IT. WE HAVE
SEEN A LOT OF AMENDMENT THAT A LITTLE MORE THAN INTRICATE
THOUGHT WENT INTO. IT IS A FAIRLY COMPLEX MATRIX OF I SHALL
URGSE AND COULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLY MANAGED WITHOUT THE
STRONG AND PROFESSIONAL SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE
STAFF. I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SPECIFICALLY THANK THE FORMER
MINORITY CLERK SCOTT GUDES WHO MOVED ON BUT WHOSE WORK ON THIS
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WAS EXTRAORDINARY. HIS REPLACE. LILA HELMS HAS BEEN A GREAT
ADDITION AND HAS CARRIED ON SCOTT'S EXCEPTIONAL WORK, AND EMILY
EAST AND DERRICK GORE HAVE ALSO BEEN GREAT ASSETS I AM SURE TO
THE MINORITY AND TO THE MAJORITY AS A RESULT OF THEIR EFFORTS.
ON MY OWN STAFF, COUNTLESS HOURS HAVE BEEN PUT IN, HE
ESPECIALLY WANT TO THANK JIM MORHART, CLERK OF THE COMMITTEE, I
DON'T THINK HE HAS SEEN HIS FAMILY OR ANYONE ELSE OTHER THAN
THE INSIDE OF THESE WALLS FOR DAYS OR WEEKS AND I APPRECIATE
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VERY MUCH HIS EFFORTS AND THE EB PERFECT TEASE HE BROUGHT TO
THIS. ALONG WITH THIS PROFESSIONAL STAFF OF PATTY LINK, KEVIN
LYNN SKI, CARL TRUSTSCOTT AND DAVID QUALM AND HAVE BEEN
EXTRAORDINARY. CHRIS BIK LETTER, JACK COON I OF MY STAFF AND
VIRGINIA WILBERT WHO IS AN INTERN EXTRAORDINARY NATURE HAVE NOT
ONLY PUT THEIR OAR IN AND AGGRESSIVELY ROAD THIS BOAT TO SHORE
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AND WE HOPE IT WILL ARRIVE SOON. SO IT REALLY IS A TEAM EFFORT
AND WE HAVE AN EXTREMELY STRONG TEAM, A TEAM MADE UP OF CAL
RIPKEN'S AND KEN GRIFFY'S AND I THANK THEM FOR THEIR TIME AND
EFFORT. I WOULD NOTE THAT THAT I HAVE BEEN ADVISED THAT THE
DEMOCRATIC LEADER IS WILLING
TO PROCEED WITH A VOTE AT 3:15 P.M., SO WE WILL BEGIN VOTING
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ON THE SMITH AMENDMENT AT 3:15 P.M. MR. HOLLINGS: MR. PRESIDENT?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM SOUTH CAROLINA.
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MR. HOLLINGS: LET ME THANK CHAIRMAN GREGG IN THE FIRST
INSTANCE. I HAVE HAD OCCASION TO HANDLE SEVERAL BILLS MYSELF.
HAVE WATCHED IT FOR OVER 30 YEARS, AND SEVERAL SENATORS ON OUR
SIDE OF THE AISLE HAVE REMARKED ALONG WITH ME IN THE BACK OF
THE CLOAKROOM THAT THEY HAVE NEVER SEEN A BILL THAT WAS BETTER
MANAGED AND THAT SENATOR GREGG HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB
WHICH I WANT TO NOTE THAT FOR THE RECORD. AS THE DISTINGUISHED
SENATOR STATED, THE STAFFS ON BOTH SIDES HAVE DONE JUST AN
OUTSTANDING JOB. THEY WORKED AROUND THE CLOCK. I NEVER SEEN
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THIS MANY AMENDMENTS ACTUALLY MOVE IN THIS SHORT A TIME. AND IT
COULDN'T HAVE BEEN DONE OF COURSE WITHOUT THE FOLKS HERE RIGHT
AT THE FRONT DESK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. LET ME THANK JIM
MORHART SHALL KEVIN LYNN SKI, PATTY LINK, CARL TRUSTSCOTT,
DAVID QUALM AND VIRGINIA WILL BOUGHT. OF THE MAJORITY STAFF AND
EMILY EAST AND DERRICK GORE. AS SENATOR GREGG POINTED OUT, LILA
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CAME IN TO REPLACE SCOTT GOODS. WHICH IS NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE. HE
IS AS GOOD AS THERE EVER WAS. BUT SHE ALREADY BROUGHT THAT
STATEMENT INTO CONTEST. SHE AND HE WILLLY EAST AND DERRICK HERE
HAVE BEEN WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK AND DOING A GREAT JOB. I AM
GLAD THAT THE SENATOR FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE NOTES THIS FOR THE
RECORD, BECAUSE TOO OFTEN WE FORGET THAT WE COULDN'T HANDLE
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THIS BILL WITHOUT LULA AND MARTY AND GARY. ON OUR SIDE OF THE
AISLE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
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MR. GREGG: MR. CHAIRMAN, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE
MANAGERS AMENDMENTS BE IN ORDER NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT
THEY MAY AMEND LANGUAGE ALREADY AMENDED.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: DWROUKS, SO ORDERED.
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MR. GREGG: I SEND A LIST OF AMENDMENTS CLEARED ON BOTH MANAGERS
ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND SENATOR HOLLINGS. I ASK THEY BE
CONSIDERED EN BLOC THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER THESE BE LAID UPON
THE TABLE.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. THE CLERK
WILL REPORT. CLERK THE SENATOR FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE, MR. GREGG,
FOR HIMSELF AND MR. HOLLINGS, PROPOSES AN AMENDMENT NUMBERED
3284.
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MR. GREGG: I RENEW MY UNANIMOUS CONSENT REQUEST.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.
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MR. GREGG: I ALSO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE KIND COMMENTS,
OBVIOUSLY, OF THE SENATOR FROM SOUTH CAROLINA. THIS BILL HAS
BEEN A FAIRLY COMPLICATED EXERCISE, BUT ITS MOVEMENT IS
ENTIRELY TIED TO THE FACT THAT THE SENATOR FROM SOUTH CAROLINA
BRINGS TO THIS FLOOR EXTRAORDINARY EXPERTISE AND
PROFESSIONALISM. HE IS A JOY TO WORK WITH, BECAUSE HIS
KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO MOVE THINGS AROUND HERE IS SECOND TO NONE
AND HIS HISTORY AS TO WHERE SOME. ISSUES LIE IS EQUALLY
DRAMATIC. SO I HAVE GREATLY APPRECIATED THE CHANCE TO WORK WITH
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HIM. I THANK HIM FOR ALL HIS SUPPORT AND EFFORT. THIS HAS BEEN
A BILL THAT HAS MOVED FORWARD AS A RESULT OF THE THE SENATOR
FROM SOUTH CAROLINA'S STRONG SUPPORT.
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MR. HOLLINGS: I THINK OUR MANAGERS AMENDMENT HAS BEEN ADOPTED?
I MOVE TO RECONSIDER.
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MR. GREGG: I MOVE TO LAY IT ON THE TABLE.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.
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MR. HOLLINGS: MR. PRESIDENT, I SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.
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MR. GREGG: MR. PRESIDENT?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE.
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MR. GREGG: I ASK THAT FURTHER PROCEEDINGS UNDER THE QUORUM CALL
BE SET ASIDE.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.
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MR. GREGG: I ASK UNANIMOUS
CONSENT THAT AT 3:15 WE BEGIN THE VOTE ON THE SMITH AMENDMENT
FOLLOWED BY THE VOTE ON FINAL PASSAGE.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT
OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.
QUORUM CALL:
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