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PROCEDURES SHALL BE APPLIED IN MAKING THOSE DECISIONS. AND,
THREE, WHAT LIMITATIONS SHALL APPLY SUCH AS WHETHER MORE THAN
ONE SEMIPOSTAL WILL BE OFFERED AT ANY ONE TIME. THE MCHUGH BILL
ALSO REQUIRES THE POSTAL SERVICE TO ESTABLISH HOW THE COSTS
INCURRED BY THE POSTAL SERVICE AS A RESULT OF ANY SEMIPOSTAL BE
COMPUTED, RECOVERED AND KEPT TO A MINIMUM. ONE THING WE LEARNED
FROM THE BREAST CANCER SEMIPOSTAL IS THAT THE POSTAL SERVICE
DID NOT ESTABLISH AN ACCURATE ACCOUNTING SYSTEM FOR TRACKING
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THE COSTS OF SEMIPOSTALS. ACCORDING TO A RECENTLY RELEASED
G.A.O. REPORT, BREAST CANCER RESEARCH STAMP, MILLIONS RAISED
FOR RESEARCH BUT BETTER COST RECOVERY CRY TEAR QUA NEEDED.
THAT'S THE TITLE OF THE REPORT. THE POSTAL SERVICE DID NOT
TRACK ALL MONETARY OR OTHER RESOURCES USED IN DEVELOPING AND
SELLING THE BREAST CANCER RESEARCH STAMP. THEY KEPT TRACK OF
SOME COSTS, BUT WAS NOT ABLE TO DETERMINE THE FULL COST OF
DEVELOPING AND SELLING THE STAMP. POSTAL OFFICIALS OBVIOUSLY
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SHOULD KEEP TRACK OF BOTH REVENUES AND THEIR FULL COST SO THAT
THE APPROPRIATE NET CAN BE DETERMINED FOR DELIVERY TO THAT
PARTICULAR CAUSE. THE MCHUGH BILL IS BEFORE THIS BODY. WHAT THE
MCHUGH BILL DOES IN ADDITION TO AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF
SEMIPOSTALS BY THE STAMP ADVISORY COMMITTEE, ALSO REAL
AUTHORIZES THE BREAST CANCER RESEARCH STAMP. IT DOES BOTH
THINGS, AND I HOPE THAT THIS BODY WILL TAKE UP THIS BILL AND TO
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ADOPT THIS KIND OF PROCEDURE IN ORDER TO ATTEMPT TO TAKE THIS
ISSUE OUT OF POLITICS AND NOT PUT US IN A POSITION WHERE WE
HAVE TO VOTE BETWEEN A STAMP RAISING MONEY FOR AIDS RESEARCH OR
DIABETES RESEARCH OR ALZHEIMER'S RESEARCH OR PROSTATE CANCER
RESEARCH ORGAN AND TISSUE DONATION RESEARCH, WORLD WAR II
MEMORIAL, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND ON AND ON. I DOUBT VERY MUCH
THAT WE WOULD WANT TO VOTE "NO" TO ANY OF THOSE. AND YET WE
CAN'T POSSIBLY HAVE ALL OF THEM AT ONCE. THE POSTAL SERVICE
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CANNOT POSSIBLY HANDLE THE ACCOUNTING, THE DELIVERY, THE SALE
OF ALL THOSE STAMPS. AND THEY'VE URGED US VERY STRONGLY NOT TO
BE AUTHORIZING AND MANDATING THE ISSUANCE OF THOSE STAMPS. SO I
HOPE WHEN THE BILL COMES BEFORE US, WHICH I HOPE WOULD BE ANY
TIME, THAT WE WILL REAUTHORIZE THE BREAST CANCER STAMP. AGAIN
THOUGH I VOTED AGAINST IT FOR THE REASONS WHICH I'VE GIVEN HERE
THIS AFTERNOON, NONETHELESS, I THINK THAT GIVEN THE FACT THAT
THE STAMPS HAVE BEEN PRINTED AND THAT THAT EFFORT IS ALREADY
UNDERWAY AND THE HUGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN
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INVOLVED IN PROMOTING THE SALE, THE WOMEN AND MEN FROM AROUND
THIS COUNTRY WHO HAVE GONE OUT OF THEIR WAY TO USE THAT STAMP
ARE IN PLACE. THEY HAVE BEEN OPERATING. THEY HAVE BEEN VERY
SUCCESSFUL, VERY PRODUCTIVE. MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WILL BE RAISED
THROUGH THAT. AND I THINK THAT THE PLUSES OF CONTINUING TO
REAUTHORIZE THAT STAMP ONCE IT'S BEEN ISSUED AND ONCE THAT
EFFORT IS UNDERWAY OUTWEIGH THE NEGATIVES WHICH I HAVE OUTLINED
HERE THIS AFTERNOON. AND I HOPE AT THE SAME TIME THAT THAT --
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THE REST OF THE MCHUGH BILL WILL BE ADOPTED BY US SO THAT WE
CAN PUT INTO PLACE CRITERIA WHICH WILL MAKE IT A LOT EASIER FOR
US TO HAVE A SENSIBLE SYSTEM FOR THE ISSUANCE OF SEMIPOSTAL.
NOW, MR. PRESIDENT, ON A MATTER THAT RELATES DIRECTLY TO THIS
BILL, BECAUSE IT'S A TREASURY BILL, I WANT TO JUST SPEND A FEW
MINUTES TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUE OF THE BUDGET SURPLUS AND THE
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RESPONSE OF THE CONGRESS TO THAT BUDGET SURPLUS. AND I WANT TO
USE AS MY TEXT, AND THEN INTERPRESS SOME COMMENTS INTO IT, A
MEMORANDUM THAT THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND
BUDGET, JAY COULD BE LEW, WROTE ON THE EFFECT OF CONGRESSIONAL
ACTION ON THE BUDGET SURPLUS. AND THIS IS WHAT THE O.M.B.
DIRECTOR WROTE. THIS MEMO IS IN RESPONSE TO YOUR REQUEST THAT
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O.M.B. ASSESS THE EFFECT OF LEGISLATIVE ACTION. ON THE BUDGET
SURPLUS. OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS CONGRESS HAS PASSED NINE
MAJOR TAX CUTS RESULTING IN A COST OF $712 BILLION OVER TEN
YEARS. DRAINING THIS SUM FROM THE U.S. TREASURY REDUCES THE
AMOUNT OF DEBT REDUCTION THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH, THEREBY
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INCREASING DEBT SERVICE COSTS BY $201 BILLION OVER TEN YEARS.
THEREFORE, THE CONGRESSIONAL TAX CUTS PASSED TO DATE WILL DRAW
A TOTAL OF $913 BILLION FROM THE PROJECTED SURPLUS. IN
ADDITION, THE CONGRESSIONAL MAJORITY HAS STATED CLEARLY THAT
ITS TAX CUTS TO DATE REPRESENT ONLY A DOWN PAYMENT IN A LONG
SERIES OF TAX CUTS THAT IT INTENDS TO REALIZE. WHILE THERE HAS
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BEEN LITTLE SPECIFICITY ABOUT THE SIZE AND NATURE OF THE ENTIRE
PROGRAM, THE FULL RANGE OF ACTION TAKEN BY THE 106TH CONGRESS
BOTH LAST YEAR AND THIS PROVIDES AN INDICATION OF THE TOTAL
IMPACT OF THE CONGRESSIONAL TAX CUT PROPOSALS ON THE SURPLUS.
IN THE FIRST SESSION OF THE 106TH CONGRESS THE MAJORITY PASSED
ONE LARGE MEASURE WHICH INCLUDED A VARIETY OF TAX CUTS
TOTALLING $792 BILLION. EXCLUDING CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL TAX CUTS
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WHICH PASSED THIS YEAR AS WELL AS LAST YEAR, SUCH AS
ELIMINATION OF THE ESTATE TAX AND THE MARRIAGE PENALTY, THE
COST OF TAX CUTS PASSED LAST YEAR AMOUNTS TO $737 BILLION. AND
THE ADDITIONAL DEBT SERVICE AMOUNTS TO $148 BILLION FOR A TOTAL
OF $885 BILLION. JACOB LEW GOES ON AS FOLLOWS, "THE
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BILL-BY-BILL APPROACH TO TAX CUTS IN THE ABSENCE OF AN OVERALL
FRAMEWORK MASKS THE FULL IMPACT AND RISKS OF THE CUMULATIVE
COST. I WANT TO REPEAT THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT REALLY
IS THE HEART OF THE MATTER. THE BILL-BY-BILL APPROACH TO TAX
CUTS IN THE ABSENCE 6 AN OVERALL FRAMEWORK MASKS THE FULL
IMPACT AND THE RISKS OF THE CUMULATIVE COST. IN THE ABSENCE OF
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MORE SPECIFIC INDICATIONS ABOUT THE CONTENT AND NUMBER OF
FUTURE TAX CUTS, THE CONGRESSIONAL MAJORITY HAS STATED IT PLANS
TO PRODUCE, WE HAVE USED THE TOTAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH TAX
CUTS FROM THE 106TH CONGRESS AS AN ILLUSTRATION OF REPUBLICAN
PLAN. IF THEIR PLANS REMAIN CONSISTENT WITH PAST ACTIVITY, THE
FULL COST WOULD BE -- THE FULL COST OF THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE
TAX CUTS OF $1.44 TRILLION, ADDITIONAL DEBT SERVICE OF $349
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BILLION FOR A TOTAL OF $1.796 TRILLION. THE EFFECT OF SUCH TAX
CUTS WOULD BE TO COMPLETELY ELIMINATE THE PROJECTED NON-SOCIAL
SECURITY MEDICARE BUDGET SURPLUS AT THE END OF TEN YEARS. EVEN
BY THE MORE OPTIMISTIC PROJECTIONS, THE ENTIRE SURPLUS WOULD BE
DRAINED. THE MOST RECENT C.B.O. PROJECTION ISSUED EARLIER THIS
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WEEK ESTIMATED A TEN-YEAR NON-SOCIAL SECURITY MEDICARE SURPLUS
OF $1.8 TRILLION. O.M.B.'S RECENT PROJECTIONS ESTIMATE A
TEN-YEAR NON-SOCIAL SECURITY MEDICARE SURPLUS OF $1.5 TRILLION.
IN EITHER CASE, BECAUSE THE COST OF THE TAX CUT MATCH OR EXCEED
THE PROJECTED BUDGET SURPLUS, THERE WOULD BE NO FUNDS AVAILABLE
FOR ANY OF THE NATIONS OTHER PRESSING NEEDS, INCLUDING OUR
PROPOSALS TO ESTABLISH A NEW VOLUNTARY MEDICARE PRESCRIPTION
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DRUG BENEFIT, PAY AN ADDITIONAL $150 BILLION IN DEFICIT
REDUCTION TO PAY DOWN THE DEBT BY 2012, EXPAND HEALTH CARE
COVERAGE TO MORE FAMILIES, PROVIDE TARGETED TAX CUTS THAT HELP
AMERICA'S WORKING FAMILIES WITH THE COST OF COLLEGE EDUCATION,
LONG-TERM CARE, CHILD CARE AND OTHER NEEDS, OR EXTEND THE LIFE
OF SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE. THAT IS THE OPTIONS -- THOSE
ARE THE OPTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FACED WITH IN THE NEXT
FEW MONTHS. WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO TAKE THIS PROJECTED
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SURPLUS NOW OF EITHER $1.5 TRILLION OR $1.8 TRILLION -- WE'RE
HERE ONLY TALKING ABOUT NON-SOCIAL SECURITY AND THE MEDICARE
SURPLUS -- WHETHER WE WANT TO TAKE THAT SURPLUS WHICH THE
C.B.O. ESTIMATES IS $1.8 TRILLION AND THE O.M.B. ESTIMATES AT
$1.5 TRILLION, AND USE THAT ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY OR EXCLUSIVELY
FOR THE TAX CUTS WHICH HAVE BEEN PROPOSED, OR WHETHER WE WANT
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TO USE A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THAT SURPLUS TO PAY DOWN THE
NATIONAL DEBT FASTER, TO ESTABLISH A NEW VOLUNTARY PRESCRIPTION
DRUG BENEFIT, TO EXPAND HEALTH COVERAGE, TO EXPAND OPPORTUNITY
FOR COLLEGE EDUCATION AND TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF SOCIAL SECURITY
AND MEDICARE. NOW I WANT TO PUT IN THE RECORD IN ONE MOMENT THE
LIST OF THE PENDING TAX CUTS IN THE 106TH CONGRESS WHICH JACK
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LEW MAKES REFERENCE TO THE $934 BILLION APPROXIMATELY IN THE
TEN-YEAR COST. THIS -- THESE ARE BILLS WHICH HAVE BEEN PASSED
BY ONE BODY OR ANOTHER OR ONE COMMITTEE OR ANOTHER IN ONE BODY.
MARRIAGE PENALTY CONFERENCE COMMITTEE, $293 BILLION. SOCIAL
SECURITY TIER II REPEAL, $117 BILLION. ESTATE TAX IN THE HOUSE,
$105 BILLION. THE PATIENTS' BILL OF RIGHTS IN THE HOUSE, $69
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BILLION. THE COMMUNICATIONS EXCISE TAX, $55 BILLION. THE
TAXPAYERS' BILL OF RIGHTS, $7 BILLION. THEN THE SUBTRACTION FOR
PROVISIONS IN MULTIPLE BILLS AND SO FORTH. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO
ADD THE INTEREST COST OF THESE TAX CUTS. AND THAT COMES OUT TO
BE ABOUT $900 BILLION. AND I WOULD ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT
THAT LIST BE PLACED IN THE RECORD AT THIS TIME.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.
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MR. LEVIN: MR. PRESIDENT, THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH EACH OF THE
MAJOR TAX BILLS. AND I MAY JUST SPEND A MOMENT ON EACH OF THOSE
PROBLEMS. ON THE ESTATE TAX BILL IT HAS PROBLEMS. THERE'S AN
ALTERNATIVE WHICH IS A BETTER ALTERNATIVE, WHICH WOULD HELP
MORE PEOPLE FOR THAT FEW NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO DO PAY AN ESTATE
TAX, THE ALTERNATIVE DEMOCRATIC PLAN WOULD PROVIDE IMMEDIATE
RELIEF, 100% RELIEF TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE LESS THAN $8 MILLION PER
COUPLE, FOR FAMILY FARMS AND SMALL BUSINESSES. TOTAL AND
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IMMEDIATE RELIEF FOR THOSE PEOPLE IN THE ALTERNATIVE PLAN. THE
BILL WHICH HAS BEEN ADOPTED HAS A MAJOR PROBLEM IN THAT IT
FAVORS UPPER-INCOME, THE WEALTHIEST AMONG US AND MOST OF ITS
BENEFITS GO TO THOSE PEOPLE RATHER THAN THE PEOPLE WHO NEED
THIS THE MOST, WHICH ARE INDIVIDUALS AND MARRIED COUPLES THAT
HAVE ESTATES THAT MIGHT BE, IN THE CASE OF A FAMILY FARM OR A
SMALL BUSINESS, $8 MILLION. BUT THERE'S A BIGGER PROBLEM, IN MY
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JUDGMENT. WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE REPEAL OF THE ESTATE
TAX OR THE MARRIAGE PENALTY TAX -- AND THERE WE HAVE AN
ALTERNATIVE AS WELL, WHICH WOULD BENEFIT A LARGER NUMBER OF
PEOPLE WITH A GREATER BENEFIT INSTEAD OF A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO
ARE AT THE UPPER END OF THE INCOME LEVEL AND NOT WITH THE SAME
PERCENTAGE AS WE WOULD DO IN THE ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM. BUT THE
MAJOR PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH THESE TAX BILLS IS THAT WHEN YOU
CUMULATE THEM, WHEN YOU PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER, WHAT IT MEANS
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WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO APPLY THIS SURPLUS TO THE
REDUCTION OF THE NATIONAL DEBT. AND I'M OUT THERE, AS ALL OF US
ARE, IN OUR HOME STATES, AND I TALK TO PEOPLE. AND I ASK PEOPLE
IN ALL THE
MEETINGS I HAVE: WHAT DO YOU PRIMARILY WANT US TO SPEND THE
SURPLUS ON?
YOU WANT TAX CUTS, PUT BE -- PUTTING ASIDE FOR THE MOMENT
WHETHER THEY BENEFIT UPPER-INCOME FOLKS OR WHETHER THEY BENEFIT FAMILIES?
PUT ASIDE THAT FOR THE MOMENT AND THAT IS A MAJOR ISSUE. YOU
BASICALLY WANT US TO TAKE THIS $1.8 TRILLION AND PAY DOWN THE
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NATIONAL DEBT, OR DO YOU WANT THAT TO GO IN TAX CUTS?
AND OVERWHELMINGLY, REPEATEDLY I HEAR BACK FROM PEOPLE THEY
WANT US TO PAY DOWN THE NATIONAL DEBT. AND WHETHER WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT YOUNGER PEOPLE, MIDDLE-AGE PEOPLE, OLDER PEOPLE,
THEY ALL KIND OF COME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION. NUMBER ONE, WE
CAN'T BE SURE THE SURPLUS WILL BE THAT LARGE, SO DON'T SPEND IT
ALL ON ANYTHING, BE IT TAX CUTS OR OTHER PROGRAMS. SPEND MOST
OF IT ON PROTECTING THE FUTURE ECONOMY OF THE UNITED STATES.
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SPEND MOST OF IT ON THAT $6
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