From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Tue May 1 01:41:39 2001 From: vinuta.shamasundar@philips.com Date: Tue May 1 01:41:41 PDT 2001 Subject: Re: Vxworks Hello, Please unsubscribe me from this news letter. i can't do it as my compnay intranet is not supporting me to do that, to go through hyperlink, From intranet to internet, and unsubscribe. Kindly do the needful. Thanking you. With kind regards. From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Tue May 1 06:57:23 2001 From: John Moore Date: Tue May 1 06:57:25 PDT 2001 Subject: Vectorcast - Unit Level Testing Hi, I'm looking at some automated test generation tools, Vectorcast specifically. I wondered if anyone had any comments about this product or something similar that would be used for unit testing (embedded, vxWorks). Thanks, John Moore jmoore@argoneng.com From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Tue May 1 09:45:00 2001 From: "Karyn Lawrence" Date: Tue May 1 09:45:02 PDT 2001 Subject: Opportunity All, I have a position available with a client of mine in Eastern Massachusetts . I am attaching the job description to this email. My client is most interested in candidates who have had significant experience in a VxWorks RTOS environment. This is a permanent opportunity and my client is considering only permanent candidates. Please email me with any interest in this position. Candidate will be a member of a small team responsible for the design and implementation of a Motorola 860 based PCI card with networking capabilities running the VxWorks real time OS. Candidate will be responsible for the design and implementation of a number of user level and driver level components. Highly desirable are: - TCP/IP knowledge - Unix, VxWorks, and/or NT driver experience - General embedded system experience - PC hardware experience (i.e. PCI, VGA, pcmcia) - Assembly code experience - subsystem will utilize JAVA programming, encryption technology, and HTTP. While experience in these areas is not required, the applicant must have a willingness to learn these and other new technologies. BS CS/EE required. Solid oral and written communication skills. The ability to work well in small groups. 5 or more years experience. Karyn Lawrence Whitridge Associates Inc. Account Manager 744 E. Squantum St. 617-472-2292 Ext.124 Quincy, MA 02171 karyn@whitridge.com www.whitridge.com "Contract and Full-Time IT and Software Staffing Services" From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Tue May 1 14:07:01 2001 From: "Mike Anderson" Date: Tue May 1 14:07:03 PDT 2001 Subject: RE: VxWorks Greetings! > Submitted-by: "Mamta Choudhary" > > Hi, > > We are using Tornado 2.0 evaluation version. In this we are facing some > problems in use of files: > When we try to open a pre-existing file or create a file with O_CREAT > and O_RDWR option it returns a valid file descriptor value. But when we > try to read or write from/to this file it gives error which are like > S_iosLib_INVALID_FILE_DESCRIPTOR, or > S_iosLib_DUPLICATE_DEVICE_NAME. > > Sometimes it successfully creates/opens a file and allows us to perform > read/write to the corresponding file. The whole behaviour of files in > VxSim seems very unpredictable to us. > Could u please enlighten us about file handling in VxSim. > In VxSim, you will have to open your file a little differently as VxSim uses the Passthrough filesystem. This means that you have to make sure that your target server has the target server file system (TSFS) turned on and R/W access is enabled. Next, to create a file, you'll need to specify the /tgtsvr device like this: -> fd = creat("/tgtsvr/mydir/myfile", 2) ; O_RDWR access Then you can use "normal" read/write/close etc. Here is an example from my system: -> fd2 = creat("/tgtsvr/u/pcteam0/projects/tester", 2) new symbol "fd2" added to symbol table. fd2 = 0x4a4ef5c: value = 21 = 0x15 -> write(fd2, buf, 20) value = 20 = 0x14 -> close(fd2) value = 0 = 0x0 Are we enlightened? HTH, Mike Anderson -- ======================================================= T h e P T R G r o u p, I n c. ======================================================= Embedded, Real-Time Solutions Mike Anderson mailto:mike@ThePTRGroup.com Chief Scientist http://www.ThePTRGroup.com V: (703) 585-9384 F: (703) 430-3748 ======================================================= "Software development is like making a baby... You can't make a baby in one month by impregnating nine women. Some things just take time." From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Wed May 2 02:10:25 2001 From: "sachin verma" Date: Wed May 2 02:10:27 PDT 2001 Subject: Tornado(Dead Task) Hi all Its related to previous problem of logMsg output i.e missing. But I now increased the msg buffering capacity by increasing the value of MAX_LOG_MSGS in configAll.h file. But what happened is ..Now output is not missing but a word "Dead Task" is coming appended to some output statements.. Like my problem was for(i=0;i<500;i++) logMsg("Vaue of i is now %d\n",i,0,0,0,0,0); n now the output coming upto 490 is ok but after that is like dead taskValue of i is now 491 dead taskValue of i is now 492 . . . . . dead taskValue of i is now 500 Now I don't know what dead task means n why it is coming..please tell me. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Wed May 2 04:41:39 2001 From: "Mike Anderson" Date: Wed May 2 04:41:41 PDT 2001 Subject: RE: Tornado(Dead Task) VxWorks Greetings! > Submitted-by: "sachin verma" > > Hi all > > Its related to previous problem of logMsg output i.e missing. > But I now increased the msg buffering capacity by > increasing the value of MAX_LOG_MSGS in configAll.h file. > But what happened is ..Now output is not missing but a word "Dead Task" > is coming appended to some output statements.. > > Like my problem was > for(i=0;i<500;i++) > logMsg("Vaue of i is now %d\n",i,0,0,0,0,0); > > > n now the output coming upto 490 is ok but after that is like > dead taskValue of i is now 491 > dead taskValue of i is now 492 > Part of the information that gets communicated to tLogTask in the logMsg is the task ID of the task that sent the message. What you are seeing is that the task is completing and exiting (hence dead) before the logTask has completed printing all of the messages in the logPipe. When tLogTask reads a message, it looks up the task ID and tries to get the task name to print. Since the task no longer exists, there is no name available, therefore tLogTask prints "Dead Task" as the task name. HTH, Mike Anderson -- ======================================================= T h e P T R G r o u p, I n c. ======================================================= Embedded, Real-Time Solutions Mike Anderson mailto:mike@ThePTRGroup.com Chief Scientist http://www.ThePTRGroup.com V: (703) 585-9384 F: (703) 430-3748 ======================================================= "Software development is like making a baby... You can't make a baby in one month by impregnating nine women. Some things just take time." From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Wed May 2 04:46:11 2001 From: "zz Fa.NewlinkSystems01" Date: Wed May 2 04:46:13 PDT 2001 Subject: AW: Tornado(Dead Task) Hi, The "dead task" reference within the logMsg output occurs because the logMsg is coming out after the task has completed and finished. Hence the taskId for the message can no longer be used by the tlogTask to associate it with the outgoing logMsg. This can be provd if you add a large taskDelay after the completion of the loop. In this way you should see that all the output messages are correctly formatted. Hope this helps. -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: vxwexplo@lbl.gov [mailto:vxwexplo@lbl.gov] Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 2. Mai 2001 11:12 An: vxworks_users@csg.lbl.gov Betreff: Tornado(Dead Task) Submitted-by vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Wed May 2 02:10:25 2001 Submitted-by: "sachin verma" Hi all Its related to previous problem of logMsg output i.e missing. But I now increased the msg buffering capacity by increasing the value of MAX_LOG_MSGS in configAll.h file. But what happened is ..Now output is not missing but a word "Dead Task" is coming appended to some output statements.. Like my problem was for(i=0;i<500;i++) logMsg("Vaue of i is now %d\n",i,0,0,0,0,0); n now the output coming upto 490 is ok but after that is like dead taskValue of i is now 491 dead taskValue of i is now 492 ----------------------------------------------------------- This Mail has been checked for Viruses Attention: Encrypted Mails can NOT be checked ! *** Diese Mail wurde auf Viren ueberprueft Hinweis: Verschluesselte Mails koennen NICHT geprueft werden! ------------------------------------------------------------ From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Wed May 2 06:22:36 2001 From: fscheurer@manz-acs.de Date: Wed May 2 06:22:38 PDT 2001 Subject: Re: Tornado(Dead Task) Hi sachin, this behaviour is related to the first issue. If your logMsg's are as much that the executing task has already finished while the logTask is still processing them. Then no Task-ID can be given because the task isn't alive and probably out of the system's task tables. HTH, Regards F. Scheurer -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Tornado(Dead Task) (02-Mai-2001 13:40) From: vxwexplo@lbl.gov To: FScheurer@manz-acs.de > Submitted-by vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Wed May 2 02:10:25 2001 > Submitted-by: "sachin verma" > > Hi all > > Its related to previous problem of logMsg output i.e missing. > But I now increased the msg buffering capacity by > increasing the value of MAX_LOG_MSGS in configAll.h file. > But what happened is ..Now output is not missing but a word "Dead Task" > is coming appended to some output statements.. > > Like my problem was > for(i=0;i<500;i++) > logMsg("Vaue of i is now %d\n",i,0,0,0,0,0); > > > n now the output coming upto 490 is ok but after that is like > dead taskValue of i is now 491 > dead taskValue of i is now 492 > > To: vxworks_users@csg.lbl.gov From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Wed May 2 10:55:06 2001 From: "Senthil K Kumar" Date: Wed May 2 10:55:08 PDT 2001 Subject: CPU Utilization and Memory Usage Hello All Is it possible to get the CPU utilization and memory Utilization on task basis or on whole system wide on the vxWorks. If so can you guys help me with the necessary calls or datastructures that are associated for getting the information. Thanks in advance Senthil K Kumar -------------------------------------------- IP Unity 1575 McCandless Drive Milpitas, CA 95035 Tel: (408)582 1127 Fax: (408)957 0823 ksekumar@ipunity.com From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Thu May 3 03:19:41 2001 From: Sunny Kunnumpuram Date: Thu May 3 03:19:43 PDT 2001 Subject: Could not enable second serial port of MBX860 Hi All, vxWorks Greetings. I am using Mbx860 -standard board from motorala and successfully ported vxWorks image with net_symbol_table.Now I am using the target shell at hyper terminal (not tornado shell) In target.nr file of this board it clearly says that the BSP does not support second serial port,but the BSP includes a driver for one peripheral chip called as superI/O which supports two serial ports and their initialisation I have configured SERIAL_PORT as SERIAL_PORT_COM If so why I am no getting the second serial port in my device listings? What modification in my BSP I have to make in order to get the second serial port enabled? Thanks for your time regards Sunny __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Thu May 3 05:04:21 2001 From: Diego Novellon Date: Thu May 3 05:04:23 PDT 2001 Subject: ads860 bootrom_res Hi, gurus. Has anybody been able to build bootrom_res for ads860 BSP? When I try to do so from Tornado (T2, W95) -> Build -> Build Boot ROM -> ads860, bootrom_res I get the following error: ---- ccppc -BC:\TORNADO\host\x86-win32\lib\gcc-lib\ -c -mcpu=860 -ansi -nostdinc -O2 -fvolatile -fno-builtin -fno-for-scope -Wall -I\h -I. -IC:\TORNADO\target\config\all -IC:\TORNADO\ target\h -IC:\TORNADO\target\src\config -IC:\TORNADO\target\src\drv -DCPU=PPC860 -o ve rsion.o C:\TORNADO\target\config\all\version.c ldppc -X -N -e _romInit \ -Ttext 02800100 -Tdata 00200000 -o bootrom_res romInit_res.o bootInit_res.o \ version.o bootConfig.o sysALib.o sysLib.o C:\TORNADO\target\lib\libPPC860gnuvx.a romInit_res.o(.text+0x37a): undefined reference to `RAM_DST_ADRS' romInit_res.o(.text+0x37e): undefined reference to `RAM_DST_ADRS' make.exe: *** [bootrom_res] Error 0x1 Done. ---- Is this a known problem? Is there a patch for this I should've applied? Thank you in advance for any hints. Diego Novellon P.S. A little bit off-topic... comp.os.vxworks messages aren't making it to the exploder lately. Anybody know of a good way to subscribing to the group _without_ access to USENET? I used to be email-subscribed through the excellent www.dejanews.com service, but since they were bought by google the news-to-email gateway hasn't worked any more. Is there any other way to get comp.os.vxworks postings to my mailbox? Thanks again!! ///////////////////////////////////////////////// // Diego Novellón Latre, Ing. en Informática // // Infr. TETRA, Dpto I+D, Teltronic S.A.U. // // Polígono Malpica, C/ F-Oeste, parcela 12 // // E50057 Zaragoza - España // // Tel +34.976.465656 #278, fax +34.976.465722 // // http://www.teltronic.es/ // ///////////////////////////////////////////////// From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Thu May 3 05:50:33 2001 From: "zz Fa.NewlinkSystems01" Date: Thu May 3 05:50:35 PDT 2001 Subject: TFFS in vxWorks Hi All, Looking for some help with TFFS in VxWorks, we had JAVA applications that are running very slowly due to the access over the target server to teh host file system. Hence we started to use the TFFS that we have available. I have configured for a 128k cache at the minute, but dont notice as large a performance saving as I would have expected. My question is twofold: 1) Would you expect a performance increase when opening, reading and closing large numbers of files in this scenario. 2) Any suggestions on how to configure/improve perfomance within the system or TFFS specifically. Thanks in advance for any help, Dave. ----------------------------------------------------------- This Mail has been checked for Viruses Attention: Encrypted Mails can NOT be checked ! *** Diese Mail wurde auf Viren ueberprueft Hinweis: Verschluesselte Mails koennen NICHT geprueft werden! ------------------------------------------------------------ From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Thu May 3 12:13:55 2001 From: "Garner, William F (N-SDC)" Date: Thu May 3 12:13:57 PDT 2001 Subject: SNMP with Two End Devices Hi, We have two ethernet devices connected to the vxWorks MUX. How can we tell which ethernet Device triggered the Method Routine in the SNMP Agent? Bill From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Thu May 3 22:01:16 2001 From: "R R, Rajendra Prabhala (Rajendra)** CTR **" Date: Thu May 3 22:01:18 PDT 2001 Subject: Boot of vxworks vxWorks tornado Hi vxworkers, I have one question regarding the booting over network feature of vxWorks. Is it possible to boot a target board over ether net without using DHCP and using only TFTP ? I wish to enter the network parameters like host IP address, host name, target IP address, boot device and target name etc. manually using tornado tools when the target comes up for the first time. I wish to specify TFTP and enter boot file location manually. I expect the board later to boot automatically using TFTP to get the boot file from host. Does this work ? Is it mandatory that we have to use a combination like DHCP/BootP + TFTP/FTP to enable the target board to boot over ether net OR can I follow the above method ? I could not find related stuff in the manual. Request you to clarify this. Thanks and best regards, rajendra. Rajendra e-mail : rrr@lucent.com ;rajendra_prabhala@bbv.satyam.com Phone : +91- 80- 505 2167 From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Fri May 4 04:40:51 2001 From: Rashmi_Topno Date: Fri May 4 04:40:53 PDT 2001 Subject: logLib Hi All, There is a facility in vxWorks called "message logging" which is provided by the library logLib. What I could understand is, this is used when an I/O operation has to be done in ISR level, or at some point where we don't want to pend the task till the operation is over. So through logMsg we push the message into a queue and logTask (which starts at the time of launching the vxSim) takes the data from the queue. My queries are 1> Is the logTask takes the data from the queue and prints it out on the simulator screen? I am using vxSim. 2> How the priority of the logTask is managed? Will it be dynamically changed by the kernel so as to ensure that it will be always having lower priority than the priority of the task which is logging the msg? I am asking this question as it has been written that logMsg api doesn't make the current state waiting for the function to get executed. This means this should not get scheduled and logtask gets CPU time, while a task logs the msg. 3> I want to use my own logTask, instead of the OS deifned one. I want to have some other functionality within that task. How can I do that? Is it possible? 4> In configAll.h there is a constant called MAX_LOG_MSGS. But what will happen if I mention a number that is greater than MAX_LOG_MSGS in logInit api ? Thanks in advance Rashmi From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Fri May 4 04:48:03 2001 From: "Mike Anderson" Date: Fri May 4 04:48:05 PDT 2001 Subject: RE: Boot of vxworks VxWorks Greetings! > Submitted-by: "R R, Rajendra Prabhala (Rajendra)** CTR **" > > > > I have one question regarding the booting over network feature of vxWorks. > > Is it possible to boot a target board over ether net without > using DHCP and > > using only TFTP ? Yes. I wish to enter the network parameters like host IP > address, host name, target IP address, boot device and target name etc. > manually using tornado tools when the target comes up for the > first time. I > wish to specify TFTP and enter boot file location manually. I expect the > board later > to boot automatically using TFTP to get the boot file from host. Does this > work ? > Yes. > Is it mandatory that we have to use a combination like DHCP/BootP + > TFTP/FTP to enable the target board to boot over ether net OR can > I follow > the above method ? I could not find related stuff in the manual. > > No. Yes. What you do is to enter the boot parameters into NVRAM using a hyperterminal or similar RS232 app. But, you'll need to "or-in" 0x80 into the flags field. This tells the standard bootroms to use TFTP rather than FTP. Of course, you'll need to have a TFTP server set up with the proper image beforehand. HTH, Mike Anderson -- ======================================================= T h e P T R G r o u p, I n c. ======================================================= Embedded, Real-Time Solutions Mike Anderson mailto:mike@ThePTRGroup.com Chief Scientist http://www.ThePTRGroup.com V: (703) 585-9384 F: (703) 430-3748 ======================================================= "Software development is like making a baby... You can't make a baby in one month by impregnating nine women. Some things just take time." From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Fri May 4 05:04:58 2001 From: "Mike Anderson" Date: Fri May 4 05:05:01 PDT 2001 Subject: RE: ads860 bootrom_res VxWorks Greetings! [snip] > romInit_res.o(.text+0x37a): undefined reference to `RAM_DST_ADRS' > romInit_res.o(.text+0x37e): undefined reference to `RAM_DST_ADRS' > make.exe: *** [bootrom_res] Error 0x1 > > Done. > ---- > > Is this a known problem? Is there a patch for this I should've applied? > Add this to your config.h in the BSP: /* default uncompress dest. for rom resident images */ #ifndef RAM_DST_ADRS #define RAM_DST_ADRS RAM_HIGH_ADRS #endif HTH, Mike Anderson -- ======================================================= T h e P T R G r o u p, I n c. ======================================================= Embedded, Real-Time Solutions Mike Anderson mailto:mike@ThePTRGroup.com Chief Scientist http://www.ThePTRGroup.com V: (703) 585-9384 F: (703) 430-3748 ======================================================= "Software development is like making a baby... You can't make a baby in one month by impregnating nine women. Some things just take time." From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Fri May 4 08:57:46 2001 From: "Baron, Ken (N-BAE Systems)" Date: Fri May 4 08:57:48 PDT 2001 Subject: RE: logLib > Hi All, > > There is a facility in vxWorks called "message logging" which is provided > by > the library logLib. What I could understand is, this is used when an I/O > operation has to be done in ISR level, or at some point where we don't > want > to pend the task till the operation is over. So through logMsg we push the > message into a queue and logTask (which starts at the time of launching > the > vxSim) takes the data from the queue. > > My queries are > > 1> Is the logTask takes the data from the queue and prints it out on the > simulator screen? I am using vxSim. [Baron, Ken] tlogTask takes data from the Q and prints it on the console, by default. > 2> How the priority of the logTask is managed? Will it be dynamically > changed by the kernel so as to ensure that it will be always having lower > priority than the priority of the task which is logging the msg? I am > asking > this question as it has been written that logMsg api doesn't make the > current state waiting for the function to get executed. This means this > should not get scheduled and logtask gets CPU time, while a task logs the > msg. [Baron, Ken] If tLogTask is higher priority than the task that calls logMsg, the calling task will block until tLogTask is done. BUT WHAT IS EVEN WORSE is that if the messageQueue is full, the logMsg() call will block if called from a task. If called from interrupt, logMsg() will not block, and the message will be dropped if the Queue is full. ?? Does anyone know if there is a way to make logMsg() non blocking when called from a task? ?? > 3> I want to use my own logTask, instead of the OS deifned one. I want to > have some other functionality within that task. How can I do that? Is it > possible? > > 4> In configAll.h there is a constant called MAX_LOG_MSGS. But what will > happen if I mention a number that is greater than MAX_LOG_MSGS in logInit > api ? [Baron, Ken] MAX_LOG_MSGS is used in the logInit call to set the size of the messageQueue that logMsg() sends to. You can change MAX_LOG_MSGS or use a different number when calling logInit(). > Thanks in advance > Rashmi > From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Fri May 4 23:06:48 2001 From: "Arpan Pal" Date: Fri May 4 23:06:50 PDT 2001 Subject: queries on pjWorks3.1 and object file compression We are using pjWorks 3.1 alongwith WindML2.0. We have some queries - 1) What are the optimum configuration for the network buffers like NUM_1024, NUM_MBLKS etc. - do they remain the same as those suggested for pjWorks 3.0.2? 2) What should be the optimal red, green and yellow flag values for garbage collection - we are using min. heap of 6 MB and max. heap of 14 MB. What is the correct way of initiating garbage collection from java(System.gc) - is there any constraint on that? 3) We are using our applications as downloadable object files (.o). They are stored in the flash of the target. Is there any utility to compress these files while storing in the flash and decompressing them while loading to memory? We are using bootrom.sys - vxworks combination for booting the target. We are able to compress the bootrom.sys - is there any way to compress the vxworks image also? - arpan From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Mon May 7 21:26:05 2001 From: "deepak Kumar" Date: Mon May 7 21:26:07 PDT 2001 Subject: registering own software interrupts This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C0D7A5.E46F77E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Network Level : Tasks running at a priority equal to network protocols. > > I want to set a software interrupt. To schedule a software interrupt = in vxworks, we > have a routine namely "schednetisr()" in "h/netlib.h" > This method schedules a software interrupt to run at Network level. > I can use this routine to schedule the interrupt for IP layer. > This is done by "schednetisr(NETISR_IP)". 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------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C0D7A5.E46F77E0-- From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Mon May 7 21:26:35 2001 From: "deepak Kumar" Date: Mon May 7 21:26:37 PDT 2001 Subject: Queries on mbuf (memory buffers) > Hi, > > I've some queries regarding mbuf (memory buffers) support in VxWorks. > > 1> How do we get an mbuf or mbuf chain to store a packet of 200 bytes? > 2> How do we get an mbuf with a cluster to store a packet of 1200 bytes? > > Can someone please provide example code? > > Hoping for an early response. > From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Tue May 1 14:07:01 2001 From: "Mike Anderson" Date: Mon May 7 21:54:15 PDT 2001 Subject: RE: VxWorks Greetings! > Submitted-by: "Mamta Choudhary" > > Hi, > > We are using Tornado 2.0 evaluation version. In this we are facing some > problems in use of files: > When we try to open a pre-existing file or create a file with O_CREAT > and O_RDWR option it returns a valid file descriptor value. But when we > try to read or write from/to this file it gives error which are like > S_iosLib_INVALID_FILE_DESCRIPTOR, or > S_iosLib_DUPLICATE_DEVICE_NAME. > > Sometimes it successfully creates/opens a file and allows us to perform > read/write to the corresponding file. The whole behaviour of files in > VxSim seems very unpredictable to us. > Could u please enlighten us about file handling in VxSim. > In VxSim, you will have to open your file a little differently as VxSim uses the Passthrough filesystem. This means that you have to make sure that your target server has the target server file system (TSFS) turned on and R/W access is enabled. Next, to create a file, you'll need to specify the /tgtsvr device like this: -> fd = creat("/tgtsvr/mydir/myfile", 2) ; O_RDWR access Then you can use "normal" read/write/close etc. Here is an example from my system: -> fd2 = creat("/tgtsvr/u/pcteam0/projects/tester", 2) new symbol "fd2" added to symbol table. fd2 = 0x4a4ef5c: value = 21 = 0x15 -> write(fd2, buf, 20) value = 20 = 0x14 -> close(fd2) value = 0 = 0x0 Are we enlightened? HTH, Mike Anderson -- ======================================================= T h e P T R G r o u p, I n c. ======================================================= Embedded, Real-Time Solutions Mike Anderson mailto:mike@ThePTRGroup.com Chief Scientist http://www.ThePTRGroup.com V: (703) 585-9384 F: (703) 430-3748 ======================================================= "Software development is like making a baby... You can't make a baby in one month by impregnating nine women. Some things just take time." From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Mon May 7 21:54:13 2001 Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by csg.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA05961 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 21:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f484sCV23248 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 21:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dakiya.controlnet.co.in (IDENT:netscape@dakiya.controlnet.co.in.116.54.202.IN-ADDR.ARPA [202.54.116.69] (may be forged)) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f484rtL23216 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 21:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from raghunath ([202.54.116.65]) by dakiya.controlnet.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GD033T00.6BU for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:27:29 +0530 From: "Raghunath Adhyapak" To: "VxWorksExploder" Subject: Queries on mbuf (memory buffers) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:27:18 +0530 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Hi, I've some queries regarding mbuf (memory buffers) support in VxWorks. 1> How do we get an mbuf or mbuf chain to store a packet of 200 bytes? 2> How do we get an mbuf with a cluster to store a packet of 1200 bytes? Can someone please provide example code? Hoping for an early response. Regards, Raghunath R. A. ControlNet (India) Pvt. Ltd. Plot L-44, Unit I, STP, Verna Indl. Estate, Verna-Salcete 403722 Goa India (O) 91-832-783615 ext 505 (R) 91-832-423024 From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Tue May 8 03:23:09 2001 From: "David Anderson" Date: Tue May 8 03:23:12 PDT 2001 Subject: ipFilter in vxWorks Hello fellow vxWorkers, Does anyone have a vxWorks port of the 'standard' ipfilter available to share or know of the existance of one available from the Internet ( before I embark on porting it myself ). David Anderson. NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: mailto:david.anderson@dtrack.com ------------------------------------- FF: 2B + ~2B , that is the question ? ------------------------------------- Disclaimer ---------- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please destroy and notify Data Track Technology Plc +44 1425 271900. ------------------------------------------------------- From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Tue May 8 08:28:05 2001 From: "Janardhanan" Date: Tue May 8 08:28:07 PDT 2001 Subject: ksleep() blocking the other parts of netTask This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0D801.A6A6F3A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello friends, I've attached the openBSD's TCP/IP stack to VxWorks with some = modifications to mbuf portion and other things(Using mux with END = driver).when I'm using sockets, if I use connect(), accept() or = shutdown() on TCP sockets, some page fault exception is thrown or some = times the system tries to restart and shows 'DosFsDevInit failed. = usrDevInit failed' error messages. When I debugged, I found that the problem was that, socket code in = VxWorks uses a function ksleep() to wait on connection-oriented TCP/IP = sockets.When we send a connection request to another machine (SYN TCP = packet) and waits for either a SYN acknowledge or RST, ksleep() is = called as follows. ksleep(so->so_timeoSem) where so is the socket and so_timeoSem is a wait channel on = which the socket waits. The problems are: 1.when ksleep is running other functions like tcp_slowtimo() or = tcp_fasttimo() or even arpintr() or ipintr() are not able to run. 2.Why the system crashes when ksleep() is executed again and again? I hope you can help me in these problems. Thanking you, Janardhanan.R. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0D801.A6A6F3A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello friends,
 I've attached the openBSD's = TCP/IP stack to=20 VxWorks with some modifications to mbuf portion and other = things(Using mux=20 with END driver).when I'm using sockets, if I use connect(), accept() or = shutdown() on TCP sockets, some page fault exception is thrown or some = times the=20 system tries to restart and shows 'DosFsDevInit failed. usrDevInit = failed' error=20 messages.
    When I debugged, I = found that=20 the problem was that, socket code in VxWorks uses a function ksleep() to = wait on=20 connection-oriented TCP/IP sockets.When we send a connection request to = another=20 machine (SYN TCP packet) and waits for either a SYN acknowledge or RST, = ksleep()=20 is called as follows.
     =    =20 ksleep(so->so_timeoSem)
        = where so is=20 the socket and so_timeoSem is a wait channel on which the socket=20 waits.
 
     The problems=20 are:
    1.when ksleep is = running other=20 functions like tcp_slowtimo() or tcp_fasttimo() or even arpintr() or = ipintr()=20 are not able to run.
    2.Why the system = crashes when=20 ksleep() is executed again and again?
   I hope you can help me in = these=20 problems.
 Thanking you,
 Janardhanan.R.
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0D801.A6A6F3A0-- From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Tue May 8 20:36:42 2001 From: "Mike Anderson" Date: Tue May 8 20:36:45 PDT 2001 Subject: RE: Queries on mbuf (memory buffers) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0D818.1E41B010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit VxWorks Greetings! > Submitted-by: "deepak Kumar" > > > Hi, > > > > I've some queries regarding mbuf (memory buffers) support in VxWorks. > > > > 1> How do we get an mbuf or mbuf chain to store a packet of 200 bytes? > > 2> How do we get an mbuf with a cluster to store a packet of 1200 bytes? > > > > Can someone please provide example code? > > The mbuf interface has been depricated in VxWorks (it's the older BSD 4.3 interface). Do you really want mbufs or do you want the END or NPT interface code (mblk/cluster block)? If you have a copy of T2, you already have sample source for both BSD 4.3 and END example drivers. It's in the /target/src/driver/netif directory. The use of the END/NPT driver approach with require the use of the netbuf libraries. This is documented in the NPT developer's guide available from the WindSurf site. HTH, Mike Anderson -- ======================================================= T h e P T R G r o u p, I n c. ======================================================= Embedded, Real-Time Solutions and Training Mike Anderson mailto:mike@ThePTRGroup.com Chief Scientist http://www.ThePTRGroup.com V: (703) 585-9384 F: (703) 430-3748 ======================================================= "Software development is like making a baby... You can't make a baby in one month by impregnating nine women. Some things just take time." ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0D818.1E41B010 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Mike Anderson.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Mike Anderson.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Anderson;Mike FN:Mike Anderson ORG:The PTR Group, Inc. TITLE:Chief Scientist TEL;WORK;VOICE:(703) 585-9384 TEL;WORK;FAX:(703) 430-3748 ADR;WORK:;;1438 Cellar Creek Way;Herndon;VA;20170;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:1438 Cellar Creek = Way=3D0D=3D0AHerndon, VA 20170=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL: URL:http://www.theptrgroup.com EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:mike@theptrgroup.com REV:20001211T173220Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0D818.1E41B010-- From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Tue May 8 21:10:40 2001 From: Sunny Kunnumpuram Date: Tue May 8 21:10:42 PDT 2001 Subject: Enabling Second serial Port of MBX860-It's done ,Here is the Details VxWorks greetings to all All, For those who are working with the target shell not the tornado shell .Enabling the second serial port (which at present not supported by Windriver's BSP. ) means a lot .as you can reserve the COM! of MBX860 for console and COM2 to test the Serial port related programes. Following modifications we have done in BSP's inorder to achieve this. In MBX800.h: 1. Define NUM_TTY to the number of serial channels, in this case 2. 2. Define N_I8250_CHANNELS to the number of channels to be used on the Winbond chip, in this case 2 (again). 3. Add the following lines to the ISA UART definitions #define COM2_INT_VEC IV_COMM2 #define COM2_BASE_ADRS CPU_ISA_COM2_BA In sysSerial.c: 1. Add the extra port definition to devParas: static I8250_CHAN_PARAS devParas[] = { {COM1_INT_VEC, COM1_BASE_ADRS, UART_REG_ADDR_INTERVAL}, {COM2_INT_VEC, COM2_BASE_ADRS, UART_REG_ADDR_INTERVAL}, }; Note: I8250_CHAN_PARAS is a structure of following format typedef struct { USHORT vector; /* Interrupt vector */ ULONG baseAdrs; /* Register base address */ USHORT regSpace; /* Address Interval */ } I8250_CHAN_PARAS; and the devpars is array of structure ,In modification we are adding the ISA Interrupt vector for COM2 of superio ,and base addresses for COM2 devices as seen from CPU space. 2. In function sysSerialChanGet only channel 0 is defined. After line 283 (so within the #if (SERIAL_PORT == SERIAL_PORT_COM)) the line "case 1:" should be added to enable the use of the second serial port. #define SMC2_COM2_NUM 2 1 and case SMC2_COM2_NUM: #if (SERIAL_PORT == SERIAL_PORT_SMC) return ((SIO_CHAN *) &ppc860Chan); #endif #if (SERIAL_PORT == SERIAL_PORT_COM) return ((SIO_CHAN *) &i8250Chan[channel]); #endif In usrconfig.c: 1 / After completing these changes, do the compilation for VxWorks image. Do not include INCLUDE_WDB in BSP configuration. Now we can get “/tyCo/1” is “devs” command list. It means that the serial port2 is enabled. Regards Sunny K sunny.k@ltitl.chennaimail.com --- Vxworks Exploder wrote: > Subject: registering own software interrupts > Subject: Queries on mbuf (memory buffers) > Subject: RE: > Subject: Queries on mbuf (memory buffers) > Subject: ipFilter in vxWorks > > ********** > > From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Mon May 7 21:26:05 > 2001 > From: "deepak Kumar" > Date: Mon May 7 21:26:07 PDT 2001 > Subject: registering own software interrupts > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C0D7A5.E46F77E0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > Network Level : Tasks running at a priority equal to > network protocols. > > > > I want to set a software interrupt. To schedule a > software interrupt = > in vxworks, we > > have a routine namely "schednetisr()" in > "h/netlib.h" > > This method schedules a software interrupt to run > at Network level. > > I can use this routine to schedule the interrupt > for IP layer. > > This is done by "schednetisr(NETISR_IP)". The ISR > called is = > "ipintr()". > > Till this everything is OK. > > > > Everything OK means , are you able to > "schednetisr(NETISR_IP)" and = > getting > "ipintr()" executed ? If yes then "ipintr()" runs in > which context ? ISR = > or > Task ? > > Also please let me know how this "schednetisr" > function schedules and = > calls > "ipintr" ? > > > Now I want to setup a new Interrupt & its ISR > (software interrupt). > > In OpenBSD, we have a routine called > "register_netisr". > > The prototype for the routine is > > register_netisr(int type, (void *)isr) > > Here type =3D interrupt viz, NETISR_IP or > NETISR_ARP > > isr =3D service routine to be called when > interrupt occurs. > > > > There should be a corresponding routine in > VxWorks. Can you please = > tell > > me what is this routine? I want to register my own > software interrupt = > & > its > > service routine. > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C0D7A5.E46F77E0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Transitional//EN"> > > content=3D"text/html; = > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > name=3DGENERATOR> > > > >
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size=3D2> Roman"=20 > color=3D#000000 size=3D3>Network Level : Tasks > running at a priority = > equal to=20 > network protocols.
>
> I want to set a > software interrupt. = > To=20 > schedule a software interrupt in vxworks, we
> > have a routine = > namely=20 > "schednetisr()" in "h/netlib.h"
> This method > schedules a software = > > interrupt to run at Network level.
> I can use > this routine to = > schedule=20 > the interrupt for IP layer.
> This is done by > = > "schednetisr(NETISR_IP)".=20 > The ISR called is "ipintr()".
> Till this > everything is=20 > OK.
>

Everything OK means , are you > able to=20 > "schednetisr(NETISR_IP)" and getting
"ipintr()" > executed ? If yes = > then=20 > "ipintr()" runs in which context ? ISR or
Task > ?

Also please = > let me=20 > know how this "schednetisr" function schedules and > calls
"ipintr"=20 > ?

> Now I want to setup a new Interrupt > & its ISR = > (software=20 > interrupt).
> In OpenBSD, we have a routine > called=20 > "register_netisr".
> The prototype for the > routine is
>=20 > register_netisr(int type, (void *)isr)
> Here > type =3D interrupt = > viz,=20 > NETISR_IP or NETISR_ARP
> isr =3D service > routine to be called = > when=20 > interrupt occurs.
>
> There should be a > corresponding = > routine in=20 > VxWorks. Can you please tell
> me what is this > routine? I want to = > register=20 > my own software interrupt &
its
> > service=20 > routine.
>
> > ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C0D7A5.E46F77E0-- > > > > From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Mon May 7 21:26:35 > 2001 > From: "deepak Kumar" > Date: Mon May 7 21:26:37 PDT 2001 > Subject: Queries on mbuf (memory buffers) > > > Hi, > > > > I've some queries regarding mbuf (memory buffers) > support in VxWorks. > > > > 1> How do we get an mbuf or mbuf chain to store a > packet of 200 bytes? > > 2> How do we get an mbuf with a cluster to store a > packet of 1200 bytes? > > > > Can someone please provide example code? > > > > Hoping for an early response. > > > > > > > From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Tue May 1 14:07:01 > 2001 > From: "Mike Anderson" > Date: Mon May 7 21:54:15 PDT 2001 > Subject: RE: > > VxWorks Greetings! > > > Submitted-by: "Mamta Choudhary" > > > > > Hi, > > > > We are using Tornado 2.0 evaluation version. In > this we are facing some > > problems in use of files: > > When we try to open a pre-existing file or create > a file with O_CREAT > > and O_RDWR option it returns a valid file > descriptor value. But when we > > try to read or write from/to this file it gives > error which are like > > S_iosLib_INVALID_FILE_DESCRIPTOR, or > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Tue May 8 21:11:25 2001 From: Sunny Kunnumpuram Date: Tue May 8 21:11:27 PDT 2001 Subject: Enabling Second serial Port of MBX860-It's done ,Here is the Details VxWorks greetings to all All, For those who are working with the target shell not the tornado shell .Enabling the second serial port (which at present not supported by Windriver's BSP. ) means a lot .as you can reserve the COM! of MBX860 for console and COM2 to test the Serial port related programes. Following modifications we have done in BSP's inorder to achieve this. In MBX800.h: 1. Define NUM_TTY to the number of serial channels, in this case 2. 2. Define N_I8250_CHANNELS to the number of channels to be used on the Winbond chip, in this case 2 (again). 3. Add the following lines to the ISA UART definitions #define COM2_INT_VEC IV_COMM2 #define COM2_BASE_ADRS CPU_ISA_COM2_BA In sysSerial.c: 1. Add the extra port definition to devParas: static I8250_CHAN_PARAS devParas[] = { {COM1_INT_VEC, COM1_BASE_ADRS, UART_REG_ADDR_INTERVAL}, {COM2_INT_VEC, COM2_BASE_ADRS, UART_REG_ADDR_INTERVAL}, }; Note: I8250_CHAN_PARAS is a structure of following format typedef struct { USHORT vector; /* Interrupt vector */ ULONG baseAdrs; /* Register base address */ USHORT regSpace; /* Address Interval */ } I8250_CHAN_PARAS; and the devpars is array of structure ,In modification we are adding the ISA Interrupt vector for COM2 of superio ,and base addresses for COM2 devices as seen from CPU space. 2. In function sysSerialChanGet only channel 0 is defined. After line 283 (so within the #if (SERIAL_PORT == SERIAL_PORT_COM)) the line "case 1:" should be added to enable the use of the second serial port. #define SMC2_COM2_NUM 2 1 and case SMC2_COM2_NUM: #if (SERIAL_PORT == SERIAL_PORT_SMC) return ((SIO_CHAN *) &ppc860Chan); #endif #if (SERIAL_PORT == SERIAL_PORT_COM) return ((SIO_CHAN *) &i8250Chan[channel]); #endif In usrconfig.c: 1 / After completing these changes, do the compilation for VxWorks image. Do not include INCLUDE_WDB in BSP configuration. Now we can get “/tyCo/1” is “devs” command list. It means that the serial port2 is enabled. Regards Sunny K sunny.k@ltitl.chennaimail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Wed May 9 01:24:52 2001 From: "Mamta Choudhary" Date: Wed May 9 01:24:55 PDT 2001 Subject: Query Related to time routines Hi, Thank you for your reply. Is there any way by which i can get current time of system clock in vxworks. I tried to use AsciTime library functions "time" and "ctime" but it always return 00:00:00, Jan. 1 1970. When i tried to use clockLib library I always get a runtime error "general protection fault". And value of errno is S_iosLib_DEVICE_NOT_FOUND please help. From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Wed May 9 05:14:56 2001 From: Diego Novellon Date: Wed May 9 05:14:58 PDT 2001 Subject: RE: Query Related to time routines > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Vxworks Exploder [SMTP:vx_explo@csg.lbl.gov] > Enviado el: miércoles 9 de mayo de 2001 13:18 > Para: vxworks_users@csg.lbl.gov > Asunto: Vx Exploder Digest > > From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Wed May 9 01:24:52 2001 > From: "Mamta Choudhary" > Date: Wed May 9 01:24:55 PDT 2001 > Subject: Query Related to time routines > > > Hi, > Thank you for your reply. > Is there any way by which i can get current time of system clock in > vxworks. I tried to use AsciTime library functions "time" and "ctime" > > but it always return 00:00:00, Jan. 1 1970. > When i tried to use clockLib library I always get a runtime > error "general protection fault". And value of errno is > S_iosLib_DEVICE_NOT_FOUND > > please help. > Hi, M. Choudhary. This may not be applicable to you, as it depends on the BSP. I use Tornado II and a standard Pentium PC as target. Last year I asked my local rep and was told there's no function in Pentium BSP to access the RTC, so I rolled my own. I read the clock once during application initialization, do a clock_settime(), and from then on I can use time() or clock_gettime() to get the real time and date. Here's my function: ... time_t RTCToTime(void) { struct tm ahora; unsigned char cHour, cMin, cSec; unsigned char cDay, cMonth, cYear; sysOutByte(0x70,0/*segundo*/); cSec = sysInByte(0x71); ahora.tm_sec = (cSec&0x0F) + 10*((cSec&0xF0)>>4); sysOutByte(0x70,2/*minuto*/); cMin = sysInByte(0x71); ahora.tm_min = (cMin&0x0F) + 10*((cMin&0xF0)>>4); sysOutByte(0x70,4/*hora*/); cHour = sysInByte(0x71); ahora.tm_hour = (cHour&0x0F) + 10*((cHour&0xF0)>>4); sysOutByte(0x70,7/*dia*/); cDay = sysInByte(0x71); ahora.tm_mday = (cDay&0x0F) + 10*((cDay&0xF0)>>4); sysOutByte(0x70,8/*mes*/); cMonth = sysInByte(0x71); ahora.tm_mon = (cMonth&0x0F) + 10*((cMonth&0xF0)>>4) - 1; sysOutByte(0x70,9/*anho*/); cYear = sysInByte(0x71); ahora.tm_year = 100 + (cYear&0x0F) + 10*((cYear&0xF0)>>4); return mktime(&ahora); } ... struct timespec ts; ... ts.tv_sec = RTCToTime(); ts.tv_nsec = 0; res = clock_settime(CLOCK_REALTIME, &ts); ... Hope this works for you too. Regards, Diego ///////////////////////////////////////////////// // Diego Novellón Latre, Computer Engineer // // TETRA SwMI, R&D Dept., Teltronic S.A.U. // // Polígono Malpica, C/ F-Oeste // // E50057 Zaragoza - Spain // // Tel +34.976.465656 #174, fax +34.976.465722 // // http://www.teltronic.es/ // ///////////////////////////////////////////////// Bail O Dhia ar an bair From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Wed May 9 08:11:11 2001 From: "Mike Anderson" Date: Wed May 9 08:11:13 PDT 2001 Subject: RE: Query Related to time routines This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0D879.23073050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit VxWorks Greetings! > Submitted-by: "Mamta Choudhary" > > > Hi, > Thank you for your reply. > Is there any way by which i can get current time of system clock in > vxworks. I tried to use AsciTime library functions "time" and "ctime" > but it always return 00:00:00, Jan. 1 1970. > When i tried to use clockLib library I always get a runtime > error "general protection fault". And value of errno is > S_iosLib_DEVICE_NOT_FOUND > > please help. The problem is that Wind River can make no assumptions about the presence or lack thereof of a hardware date/time circuit on your board. Therefore, it's up to the BSP developer to know if your board has such a circuit and write routines to handle setting the ANSI time functions using the clock_settime call. This says that you access your clock according to the requirements of your hardware, and then encode the number of seconds since 1/1/1970 and call the clock_settime function. If you're using DosFS2, your date/time stamps on the files will also be driving from this interface. If you need the time, then call clock_gettime and pass the result to the appropriate ansiTime function to decode the timeval return into date and time. HTH, Mike Anderson -- ======================================================= T h e P T R G r o u p, I n c. ======================================================= Embedded, Real-Time Solutions and Training Mike Anderson mailto:mike@ThePTRGroup.com Chief Scientist http://www.ThePTRGroup.com V: (703) 585-9384 F: (703) 430-3748 ======================================================= "Software development is like making a baby... You can't make a baby in one month by impregnating nine women. Some things just take time." ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0D879.23073050 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Mike Anderson.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Mike Anderson.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Anderson;Mike FN:Mike Anderson ORG:The PTR Group, Inc. TITLE:Chief Scientist TEL;WORK;VOICE:(703) 585-9384 TEL;WORK;FAX:(703) 430-3748 ADR;WORK:;;1438 Cellar Creek Way;Herndon;VA;20170;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:1438 Cellar Creek = Way=3D0D=3D0AHerndon, VA 20170=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL: URL:http://www.theptrgroup.com EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:mike@theptrgroup.com REV:20001211T173220Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0D879.23073050-- From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Wed May 9 15:06:39 2001 From: Rainer Stelzer Date: Wed May 9 15:06:41 PDT 2001 Subject: RE: build bootrom bigger than 1M for powerpc Hi Bo Yu, > We are building a bootrom uncompressed object. But usually the bootrom > > for PowerPC is limited to 1M. We certainly will have a bootrom larger > than > 1M. What is the guildline for creating the bootrom > 1 M ? We solved the problem on a MPC823 board populated with 4MB Flash by adding a jump to at the location . This works, cause the adress lines A11 and A10 are high when accessing the 1MB boot area after reset. By doing it this way, you can use 3MB continues ROMSpace. However, this is a workaround, maybe Motorola increases the boot memory window to a bigger size, or leave all adresslines above 1MB in low state in the next silicon version. regards rainer tornado vxworks ===================================================== Gebrüder Stoye GmbH department: traffic control systems Name: Rainer Stelzer Adr: Longericher Strasse 177 city: Cologne, Germany Zip: 50739 phone: ++49/221/2616-551 mailto: r.stelzer@stoye.de www: http://www.stoye.de ===================================================== -- ===================================================== Gebrüder Stoye GmbH department: traffic control systems Name: Rainer Stelzer Adr: Longericher Strasse 177 city: Cologne, Germany Zip: 50739 phone: ++49/221/2616-551 mailto: r.stelzer@stoye.de www: http://www.stoye.de ===================================================== From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Thu May 10 11:14:57 2001 From: Kumaraswamy Mudide Date: Thu May 10 11:14:59 PDT 2001 Subject: Reg. DHCP Hi All, We have a vxWorks target configured as DHCP client and Linux machine as DHCP server. With this set up Linux machine sends required parameter like Next boot server address, boot file name in DHCPOFFER message and hence vxWorks target works fine. But when I use Windows NT based PC as DHCP server it sends "Next boot server address" as "0.0.0.0" and I also observed that Windows NT machine does not sends boot file name. Is any one encounter it with Windows NT server before? Do you think the Windows NT server configuration is wrong? Please help us. Bye swamy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Fri May 11 07:40:16 2001 From: "deepak Kumar" Date: Fri May 11 07:40:18 PDT 2001 Subject: software interrupt This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_031E_01C0DA57.645C14A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I want to set a software interrupt. To schedule a software interrupt, we > have a routine namely "schednetisr()" in "h/netlib.h" > This method schedules a software interrupt to run at Network level. > I can use this routine to schedule the interrupt for IP layer. e.g. This is done by "schednetisr(NETISR_IP)". The ISR called is = "ipintr()". This is done by "schednetisr(NETISR_IP)". The ISR called is "ipintr()". > Now I want to setup a new Interrupt & its ISR (software interrupt). > In OpenBSD, we have a routine called "register_netisr". > The prototype for the routine is > register_netisr(int type, (void *)isr) > Here type =3D interrupt viz, NETISR_IP or NETISR_ARP > isr =3D service routine to be called when interrupt occurs. > > There should be a corresponding routine in VxWorks. Can you please = tell > me what is this routine? I want to register my own software interrupt = & its > service routine. ------=_NextPart_000_031E_01C0DA57.645C14A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I want to set a software interrupt. To schedule = a software=20 interrupt, we
> have a routine namely "schednetisr()" in=20 "h/netlib.h"
> This method schedules a software interrupt to run = at=20 Network level.
> I can use this routine to schedule the interrupt = for IP=20 layer.
e.g. This is done by = "schednetisr(NETISR_IP)". The ISR=20 called is "ipintr()".
This is done by "schednetisr(NETISR_IP)". The = ISR called is=20 "ipintr()".
> Now I want to setup a new Interrupt & = its ISR=20 (software interrupt).
> In OpenBSD, we have a routine called=20 "register_netisr".
> The prototype for the routine is
>=20 register_netisr(int type, (void *)isr)
> Here type =3D interrupt = viz,=20 NETISR_IP or NETISR_ARP
> isr =3D service routine to be called = when=20 interrupt occurs.
>
> There should be a corresponding = routine in=20 VxWorks. Can you please tell
> me what is this routine? I want to = register=20 my own software interrupt &
its
> service=20 routine.
------=_NextPart_000_031E_01C0DA57.645C14A0-- From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Fri May 11 08:58:54 2001 From: "Prakash Padmanabhan" Date: Fri May 11 08:58:56 PDT 2001 Subject: Disappearing task list in VxWorks This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0071_01C0DA61.E5A14C10" ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C0DA61.E5A14C10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I'm using a Tornado 1.0.1 shell with VxWorks running on an MPC860 = processor board. Immediately after I load my=20 application, the task list would stop being visible from the shell ("i" = returns an empty list). If I unload the application, the tasks (wdb, log etc.) become visible again. The application also crashes = immediately after it's started. Does anyone have some hint about what could be causing this problem? (Could this be = because of lack of memory?) Thanks in advance. -Prakash ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C0DA61.E5A14C10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
 
I'm using a Tornado 1.0.1 shell with VxWorks running on an = MPC860=20 processor board. Immediately after I load my
application, the task list would stop being visible from the = shell=20 ("i" returns an empty list). If I unload the application, the
tasks (wdb, log etc.) become visible again. The application = also=20 crashes immediately after it's started. Does anyone
have some hint about what could be causing this problem? (Could = this be=20 because of lack of memory?)
 
Thanks in advance.
-Prakash
------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C0DA61.E5A14C10-- --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary-- From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Sun May 13 05:04:30 2001 From: "Prakash Padmanabhan" Date: Sun May 13 05:04:32 PDT 2001 Subject: Re: Disappearing task list in VxWorks Could debug the problem. It was because libPPC860gnuvx.a was loaded twice, once in the VxWorks image and a second time as part of the object file. Thanks. -Prakash ----- Original Message ----- From: "the vxWorks Users Group Exploder" To: Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 9:42 PM Subject: Disappearing task list in VxWorks > Hello, > > I'm using a Tornado 1.0.1 shell with VxWorks running on an MPC860 = > processor board. Immediately after I load my=20 > application, the task list would stop being visible from the shell ("i" = > returns an empty list). If I unload the application, the > tasks (wdb, log etc.) become visible again. The application also crashes = > immediately after it's started. Does anyone > have some hint about what could be causing this problem? (Could this be = > because of lack of memory?) > > Thanks in advance. > -Prakash > From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Mon May 14 06:12:30 2001 From: "Mamta Choudhary" Date: Mon May 14 06:12:33 PDT 2001 Subject: How to make Bootable Image? Hello All!!!! i'm using evaluation version of tornado.....We are trying to make a bootable application for windos NT....It works fine for one project but I have developed an application which uses 5 projects...so kindly suggest me how to make bootable application for that Thanks in advance, Regards, M. choudhary From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Mon May 14 08:35:45 2001 From: "T. Hariharan" Date: Mon May 14 08:35:47 PDT 2001 Subject: Weird dosFs problem? Hello, We ran into this weird dosFs problem. Checking if others had a similar experience. We have the following directories: /ata/cfg - for config files /ata/log - for log files Created many config files - startup.cfg, test.cfg, etc - under /ata/cfg. When startup.cfg is created, we keep backup copies of the previous 3 versions as startup1.cfg, startup2.cfg, startup3.cfg (rename files). Similarly, we rotate the log files in the directory /ata/log once a day, keeping the last N days' files. I displayed the content of one of the log files and found that it had what should have been in a config file! I'm checking our code for bugs, but one of the suspects is dosFs. Has anyone had problems where dosFs puts the content that's supposed to be in one file in another? We use Tornado 2.0.2, so I would expect it to have the latest version of dosFs. I've heard that the previous version was very bad. Thanks, Hari From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Mon May 14 09:35:49 2001 From: currie@ghg.net Date: Mon May 14 09:35:52 PDT 2001 Subject: Tornado FTP failures We have several applications that are trying to download data written to a Targa SCSI device hooked up to a Radstone PPC 604 board. We are having repeatable transfer failures every 7th data file. We are using a Labview application, WAR_FTP, and another ftp application that we have written. Has anyone else had this problem, and do you have any suggestions on how to fix it? Thanks. Alan Currie NASA Johnson Space Center Houston, TX From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Tue May 15 07:13:43 2001 From: David Laight Date: Tue May 15 07:13:45 PDT 2001 Subject: Re: Weird dosFs problem? Finding the 'wrong' data in a file is usually caused by an earlier corruption of the FAT - a block is marked free when it is allocated to a file. This causes the same block to be allocated to two files later on. We have seen quite a few corrupted dosfs filesystems - but never identified a sequence that actually corrupts the disk. I don't know the mechanism used by compact flash cards to support 512 byte sectors using (I assume) standard flash parts with 64k byte erase blocks. I have seem corrupt filesystems where it looked as though a sector was in the wrong place - which might be a firmware bug on the CF card, but is just as likely to be a hardware problem on our board. I have so far refrained from using dosfs2, partially because I'm building vxWorks 5.3.1 and 5.4 on the same source base, and partially because I don't think it will interact very well with the cache I use to get reasonable performance from flash. David > > We ran into this weird dosFs problem. Checking if others had a similar > experience. > > We have the following directories: > > /ata/cfg - for config files > /ata/log - for log files > > Created many config files - startup.cfg, test.cfg, etc - under /ata/cfg. > When startup.cfg is created, we keep backup copies of the previous 3 > versions as startup1.cfg, startup2.cfg, startup3.cfg (rename files). > Similarly, we rotate the log files in the directory /ata/log once a day, > keeping the last N days' files. > > I displayed the content of one of the log files and found that it had what > should have been in a config file! I'm checking our code for bugs, but one > of the suspects is dosFs. Has anyone had problems where dosFs puts the > content that's supposed to be in one file in another? > > We use Tornado 2.0.2, so I would expect it to have the latest version of > dosFs. I've heard that the previous version was very bad. > > Thanks, > Hari ---------------------------------------------------------------- David Laight email: dsl@tadpole.co.uk Tadpole Technology plc phone: +44 1223 428 232 Cambridge, UK fax: +44 1223 428 201 From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Wed May 16 08:30:00 2001 From: "Baron, Ken" Date: Wed May 16 08:30:03 PDT 2001 Subject: windows explorer And Tornado conflict Hi All, I wonder if anyone else has seen this with Windows 95 and Tornado2. Before running Tornado, I can use Windows Explorer to copy a file. After I run Tornado I can no longer copy a file either by dragging or copy and paste. How do I fix this? From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Wed May 16 10:30:07 2001 From: "CICON,JAMES (HP-Vancouver,ex1)" Date: Wed May 16 10:30:09 PDT 2001 Subject: RE: windows explorer And Tornado conflict Greenhills sells a good product. Nucleus isn't bad. Jim Cicon > -----Original Message----- > From: vxwexplo@lbl.gov [mailto:vxwexplo@lbl.gov] > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 8:32 AM > To: vxworks_users@csg.lbl.gov > Subject: windows explorer And Tornado conflict > > > Submitted-by vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Wed May 16 08:30:00 2001 > Submitted-by: "Baron, Ken" > > Hi All, > > I wonder if anyone else has seen this with Windows 95 and Tornado2. > > Before running Tornado, I can use Windows Explorer to copy a > file. After I > run Tornado I can no longer copy a file either by dragging or copy and > paste. > > How do I fix this? From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Wed May 16 19:42:20 2001 From: "Edwin Dela Cruz" Date: Wed May 16 19:42:22 PDT 2001 Subject: Please include me in VxWorks mailing list! May 17, 2001 Dear Sir, Please include me in your VxWorks mailing list. Thanks in advance, ******************************************* Edwin T. Dela Cruz Millennium Software, Inc. 25th Flr. Robinsons Equitable Bank Tower ADB Ave. cor. Poveda St., Ortigas Center, Pasig City 1605 Philippines E-mail: edelacruz@msi.net.ph ******************************************* From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Thu May 17 00:18:59 2001 From: Vikrant Mittal Date: Thu May 17 00:19:02 PDT 2001 Subject: Please include me in VxWorks mailing list! Dear Sir, Please include me in VxWorks mailing list! Thanks Vikrant Mittal From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Fri May 18 00:51:37 2001 From: chenxiang@DigitalChina.com.cn Date: Fri May 18 00:51:40 PDT 2001 Subject: help:WDB problem (WTX Error 0x10197 (EXCHANGE_TIMEOUT)) hi vxWorker This question has puzzled me two days.I have to post it here hope to get some hints. vxWorks 5.4 + Tornado2 + MPC860 , I config wdb in bsp. And I could launch target-server , it shows Wind River Systems Target Server: NT/Win95 version Connecting to target agent... succeeded. Attaching C++ interface... succeeded. Attaching elf OMF reader for PPC CPU family... succeeded. In win98 , i can launch winsh very well , but i could not launch debuger , it told me " a serial internel problem occurred " and tornado2 had to been shut. In win2k , i even could not launch winsh , it just told me "WTX Error 0x10197 (EXCHANGE_TIMEOUT)". Anyone met similar problem , any hints will be very appreciated. Chen Xiang From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Fri May 18 03:24:04 2001 From: "Vijayaraghavan Rajasekaran" Date: Fri May 18 03:24:06 PDT 2001 Subject: event implementaion in Vxworks Hello VXWORKS and TORANDO users, We are doing porting from pSOS to Vxworks. In pSOS we can send event to specified task Id through ev_send. similarly ev_receive is used to receive a event. ev_send( task Id, event flag) ev_receive (event mask, EV_ANY/EV_ALL , timeout, event) Is there any fesiblity to implement the 'event' (in pSOS) to VxWorks? Is there any POSIX std. for this? Pls Advice me reg this. Thanks Vijay From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Fri May 18 03:32:45 2001 From: "Vinoth Amarnath" Date: Fri May 18 03:32:48 PDT 2001 Subject: Influencing scheduler for preferential execution of tasks ... Hi everybody, Is there are a mechanism in vxworks by which among a given set of tasks of varying priorities the scheduler can be infuenced to always give execution to a particular task for a specific amount of time. In other words the rest of the tasks should be kept away from acquiring the CPU.( sort of putting them in a "frozen" state ) Conditions are (a) The priorities of these tasks should not be altered. (b) None of the tasks ought to be suspended. The requirement is that the chosen task is supposed to take a snap-shot of these other tasks as they are in a given instant of time without disturbing their present state. Kindly let me know your opinion. Thanks for sharing your time. with warm regards, Vinoth.A From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Fri May 18 06:25:35 2001 From: David Laight Date: Fri May 18 06:25:38 PDT 2001 Subject: Re: Influencing scheduler for preferential execution of tasks ... Why not just run the task taking the 'snapshot' information at a very high priority? David > Is there are a mechanism in vxworks by which among a given set of > tasks of varying priorities the scheduler can be infuenced to > always give execution to a particular task for a specific amount > of time. > > In other words the rest of the tasks should be kept away from > acquiring the CPU.( sort of putting them in a "frozen" state ) > > Conditions are > (a) The priorities of these tasks should not be altered. > (b) None of the tasks ought to be suspended. > > The requirement is that the chosen task is supposed to take > a snap-shot of these other tasks as they are in a given instant of > time without disturbing their present state. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- David Laight email: dsl@tadpole.co.uk Tadpole Technology plc phone: +44 1223 428 232 Cambridge, UK fax: +44 1223 428 201 From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Fri May 18 08:06:38 2001 From: Kumaraswamy Mudide Date: Fri May 18 08:06:41 PDT 2001 Subject: Re: Influencing scheduler for preferential execution of tasks ... Hi, When chosen task is running you can lock the scheduling till it takes snap-shot of other task. I do not know whether this will solve your problem. Regards, Swamy --- the vxWorks Users Group Exploder wrote: > Submitted-by vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Fri May 18 > 03:32:45 2001 > Submitted-by: "Vinoth Amarnath" > > > Hi everybody, > > Is there are a mechanism in vxworks by which among > a given set of > tasks of varying priorities the scheduler can be > infuenced to > always give execution to a particular task for a > specific amount > of time. > > In other words the rest of the tasks should be > kept away from > acquiring the CPU.( sort of putting them in a > "frozen" state ) > > Conditions are > (a) The priorities of these tasks should not be > altered. > (b) None of the tasks ought to be suspended. > > The requirement is that the chosen task is supposed > to take > a snap-shot of these other tasks as they are in a > given instant of > time without disturbing their present state. > > Kindly let me know your opinion. > > Thanks for sharing your time. > > with warm regards, > Vinoth.A > > ********** > > This is a user group mailing list for vxWorks > related topics > see http://www-vxw.lbl.gov/vxworks for posting > and subscription info __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Fri May 18 08:50:55 2001 From: Kumaraswamy Mudide Date: Fri May 18 08:50:57 PDT 2001 Subject: Re: Influencing scheduler for preferential execution of tasks ... Hi, While chosen task is taking snap-shot of other tasks you can lock the scheduling, right!. Regards, swamy --- the vxWorks Users Group Exploder wrote: > Submitted-by vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Fri May 18 > 03:32:45 2001 > Submitted-by: "Vinoth Amarnath" > > > Hi everybody, > > Is there are a mechanism in vxworks by which among > a given set of > tasks of varying priorities the scheduler can be > infuenced to > always give execution to a particular task for a > specific amount > of time. > > In other words the rest of the tasks should be > kept away from > acquiring the CPU.( sort of putting them in a > "frozen" state ) > > Conditions are > (a) The priorities of these tasks should not be > altered. > (b) None of the tasks ought to be suspended. > > The requirement is that the chosen task is supposed > to take > a snap-shot of these other tasks as they are in a > given instant of > time without disturbing their present state. > > Kindly let me know your opinion. > > Thanks for sharing your time. > > with warm regards, > Vinoth.A > > ********** > > This is a user group mailing list for vxWorks > related topics > see http://www-vxw.lbl.gov/vxworks for posting > and subscription info __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Sat May 19 02:18:02 2001 From: "Vinoth Amarnath" Date: Sat May 19 02:18:05 PDT 2001 Subject: RE: Influencing scheduler for preferential execution of tasks ... Hi again, Thanks for sharing your time. Yes, taskLock( ) should be useful if the chosen task is guaranteed not to get blocked or pended. As an extension to my earlier query I have one more. This is about restarting all the tasks that were sort of frozen. Now if these tasks had started let us say a few timers each one at a different point in time and currently with different counter values is there a mechanism to freeze these timers as they are so that they can be restarted and the difference in their respective counters is preserved when they are brought back to life. Simply put is it possible to freeze the timers ( started using wdStart( ) ) as they are at once and re-start them at some other point. Kindly let me know your opinions. regards, Vinoth.A --- the vxWorks Users Group Exploder vxwexplo@lbl.gov> wrote: Submitted-by vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Fri May 18 03:32:45 2001 Submitted-by: "Vinoth Amarnath" Hi everybody, Is there are a mechanism in vxworks by which among a given set of tasks of varying priorities the scheduler can be infuenced to always give execution to a particular task for a specific amount of time. In other words the rest of the tasks should be kept away from acquiring the CPU.( sort of putting them in a "frozen" state ) Conditions are (a) The priorities of these tasks should not be altered. (b) None of the tasks ought to be suspended. The requirement is that the chosen task is supposed to take a snap-shot of these other tasks as they are in a given instant of time without disturbing their present state. Kindly let me know your opinion. Thanks for sharing your time. with warm regards, Vinoth.A ********** This is a user group mailing list for vxWorks related topics see http://www-vxw.lbl.gov/vxworks for posting and subscription info From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Mon May 21 05:19:36 2001 From: "Praveen Nadgir" Date: Mon May 21 05:19:39 PDT 2001 Subject: Re: Influencing scheduler for preferential execution of tasks ---- vxWorks ---- Hi, I would suggest something else. Why not have an ISR running with the tick interrupt collect the status of all the tasks and dump it into some memory reserved. This has the advantages such as :- 1. It will run at the higest priority. 2. It will automatically freeze everything at the task level and also watchdog level. So timers will be frozen. 3. It doesn't affect any of the tasks status.(be it peneded/suspended...) But it will have the restrictions that are there on the general ISR and most importantly it might not give the information at the instant i.e. you will be looking at the data dumped a few ticks ago!!...That's the price you have to pay I guess!! Hope this helps, Praveen Nadgir. From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Mon May 21 15:17:36 2001 From: "Tan, Tat Kin" Date: Mon May 21 15:17:39 PDT 2001 Subject: VxNetStack Job/Kernel optimization --- vxworks --- Hi all vxworks champions, I wonder which area should i look into if i wanted to optimize the performance of my target board (which runs vxworks)? One area i can think of is to minimize/optimize the jobs running in kernel. How can i achieve this? Which area should i start and look into? Million thanks for any taker..... with warm regards, Tat Kin TAN From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Mon May 21 18:17:43 2001 From: "Mike Anderson" Date: Mon May 21 18:17:45 PDT 2001 Subject: RE: VxNetStack Job/Kernel optimization VxWorks Greetings! > Submitted-by: "Tan, Tat Kin" > > > I wonder which area should i look into if i wanted to optimize the > performance of my target board (which runs vxworks)? One area i > can think of > is to minimize/optimize the jobs running in kernel. How can i > achieve this? > Which area should i start and look into? > Well, it depends... What is the application? Is it CPU bound, network bound, I/O bound or something else? In general, I'd try to keep the number of tasks down as long as the task design makes sense from a cohesion/coupling prospective. You've also not told us what CPU architecture you're using. Quite simply, you've not given us enough information to be able to provide much guidance. But, here are some general things to ponder: 1) Latency is generally *bad* (although we can use it to our benefit on occasion) 2) -1 return status in VxWorks is *bad* (that's the ERROR return) 3) The answer to any question your management will ask you is: "Well, it depends..." -- most elements in embedded systems have dependences on other elements. It's a rare item that can be adjusted without impacting something else. Regards, Mike Anderson -- ======================================================= T h e P T R G r o u p, I n c. ======================================================= Embedded, Real-Time Solutions and Training Mike Anderson mailto:mike@ThePTRGroup.com Chief Scientist http://www.ThePTRGroup.com V: (703) 585-9384 F: (703) 430-3748 ======================================================= "Software development is like making a baby... You can't make a baby in one month by impregnating nine women. Some things just take time." From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Tue May 22 01:00:23 2001 From: "David Anderson" Date: Tue May 22 01:00:25 PDT 2001 Subject: RE: RE: Influencing scheduler for preferential execution of tasks vxworks Tornado WindView uses an auxilliary clock which is supported in ( most ? ) BSP's. This can be set to run faster than the timer tick so allowing faster sampling. Just an aside from the main issue... David A. From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Tue May 22 04:07:44 2001 From: Vxworks Exploder Date: Tue May 22 04:08:39 PDT 2001 Subject: comp.os.vxworks newsdigest Comp.Os.Vxworks Daily Digest Tue May 22 04:04:55 PDT 2001 Subject: tffs on PPMC750 Subject: using startup script Subject: Rebuild kernel for VxSIM? Subject: Re: Gcc 2.95.3 for VxWorks-PPC Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: using startup script Subject: Re: Interrupt:dc0 no carrier error Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Subject: Re: Gcc 2.95.3 for VxWorks-PPC Subject: Re: remote load and startup Subject: Flash memory questions Subject: VxWorks & PCI Subject: Re: Rebuild kernel for VxSIM? Subject: Re: System hangs for certain Image sizes Subject: Re: tffs on PPMC750 Subject: Re: SingleStep and the 860 trap exception Subject: vsnprintf and stricmp Subject: Re: symbol table Subject: Re: Flash memory questions Subject: Re: using startup script Subject: Re: Gcc 2.95.3 for VxWorks-PPC Subject: Re: remote load and startup Subject: Re: tffs on PPMC750 Subject: Re: vsnprintf and stricmp Subject: Re: SingleStep and the 860 trap exception Subject: Re: time() depends on sysClkRate? Subject: RE: Flash memory questions Subject: problem when loading vxWorks image Subject: large downloadable image Subject: Better Allocator than memLib?? Subject: taskDelay problem Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: using startup script Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: taskDelay problem Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: STDIN problem on target Subject: Re: (beginer) Problem "catching" a cPCI interrupt Subject: vxworks memory management Subject: Re: large downloadable image Subject: Re: remote load and startup Subject: DWDM Subject: Re: File I/O through Serial Link on RAD6000 Subject: Re: T2 man pages??? Subject: Re: Better Allocator than memLib?? Subject: Re: Interrupt:dc0 no carrier error Subject: Re: using startup script Subject: PPC 821/823 with passive LCD display Subject: Re: using startup script Subject: Re: taskDelay problem Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Subject: Re: problem when loading vxWorks image Subject: Re: large downloadable image Subject: Re: symbol table Subject: Re: problem when loading vxWorks image Subject: Debugging with MMU Enabled Subject: DNS source code Subject: Re: Debugging with MMU Enabled Subject: Re: Debugging with MMU Enabled Subject: Unix to Win platform Subject: VxWorks developers needed in Central NJ Subject: Re: Unix to Win platform Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: PPC 821/823 with passive LCD display Subject: problem on using objcopyppc Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: large downloadable image Subject: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: large downloadable image Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Subject: VxWorks: Servo Control System Job Opportunity Subject: VxWorks(64 Bit Addition). Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Howto get documentation for hashLib,sllLib and dllLib ? Subject: Re: vxworks memory management Subject: Re: vxWorks image booting error Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Subject: Re: VxWorks & PCI Subject: OT: make for Win32? Subject: Re: Handling Interrupt - Subject: Re: T2 man pages??? Subject: Re: T2 man pages??? Subject: Re: T2 man pages??? Subject: Re: Debugging with MMU Enabled Subject: Note: 82559ER access to serial EEPROM Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Subject: Re: Debugging with MMU Enabled Subject: Re: make for Win32? Subject: Re: Unix to Win platform Subject: Newbie needs help with embedded SNMP agent Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: remote load and startup Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: Debugging with MMU Enabled Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Subject: Re: VxWorks Subject: Re: VxWorks(64 Bit Addition). Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Bad Email Address Purging Subject: how to develop custom TELNET and FTP? Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: problem booting target Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: POSIX async I/O Subject: Re: how to develop custom TELNET and FTP? Subject: VxWorks hang up in mcp750 Subject: vxworks and xmodem protocol Subject: Re: T2 man pages??? Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: adding new protocol family support to the vxWorks host network stack Subject: Re: vxworks and xmodem protocol Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: What's the meaning of CACHE_PIPE_FLUSH()? Subject: build agent Subject: Re: problem on using objcopyppc Subject: Re: how to develop custom TELNET and FTP? Subject: Async Read Failure Subject: Re: Async Read Failure Subject: Re: vxworks and xmodem protocol Subject: RE: comp.os.vxworks newsdigest Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Subject: request Subject: Re: request Subject: tffs on PPMC750 Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Subject: target shell, and i() Subject: A32 Addressing Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Subject: Re: problem on using objcopyppc Subject: How do I get the MAC address using vxWorks API? Subject: Re: T2 man pages??? Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Subject: Re: make for Win32? Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Subject: Re: How do I get the MAC address using vxWorks API? Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Subject: Re: Debugging with Cache Enabled Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Subject: RE: How do I get the MAC address using vxWorks API? Subject: TEST (DO NOT READ) Subject: Re: A32 Addressing Subject: Linked List VME to PCI DMA with mv2604 and VxWorks 5.4 Subject: ISA I/O with PPC Subject: Seeking detailed info on VxWorks. Subject: UGL graphics on MV2700 Subject: UGL graphics on mv2700 Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: problem booting target Subject: Re: Async Read Failure Subject: BroadCast Size in Tornado2 Subject: Re: target shell, and i() Subject: Re: Seeking detailed info on VxWorks. Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Subject: Re: problem booting target Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Subject: SSL with VxWorks Wind Web Server Subject: Re: how to develop custom TELNET and FTP? Subject: Re: how to develop custom TELNET and FTP? Subject: change FTP timeout? Subject: VxWorks-zbuf Subject: Re: target shell, and i() Subject: Re: Debugging with MMU Enabled Subject: Re: Handling Interrupt - Subject: Re: how to develop custom TELNET and FTP? Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Subject: Re: Handling Interrupt - Subject: Re: Debugging with MMU Enabled Subject: MIPS based BSP help Subject: burn boot image into boot flash Subject: Re: VxWorks-zbuf Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: VME interrupts Subject: Disk Corruption Subject: Re: Disk Corruption Subject: Re: VME interrupts Subject: Re: Handling Interrupt - Subject: tcl: buildStart + callbacks Subject: Re: T2 man pages??? Subject: Re: Back plane communication and VxMP Subject: The routing and interface table information Subject: re: VxWorks-zbuf Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: re: VxWorks-zbuf Subject: Re: T2 man pages??? Subject: Problem with the VxWorks image size Subject: Re: Disk Corruption Subject: FTP with mkdir Subject: Re: request Subject: VxWorks and MIPS Subject: Re: Problem with the VxWorks image size Subject: Re: FTP with mkdir Subject: Dynamic Config of IPv4 and etherInputHook Subject: RE: Vx Exploder Digest Subject: VxWorks hang up in mcp750 Subject: Re: Problem with the VxWorks image size Subject: Re: Disk Corruption Subject: VxWorks 5.4, dosFs and memory consumption Subject: RE: How do I get the MAC address using vxWorks API? Subject: multicast Subject: Re: FTP with mkdir Subject: netTask run put of stackmemory Subject: Async Read Failure Subject: async read failure posting Subject: Async Read Failure Subject: Re: How do I get the MAC address using vxWorks API? Subject: PMC 663J Ethernet Card Subject: RE: PMC 663J Ethernet Card Subject: PMC 663J Ethernet Card Subject: Re: netTask run put of stackmemory Subject: In 8260 with mmu and cache enabled you have not flash visibility Subject: DHCP Client and Symbol table Subject: Re: VME interrupts Subject: Re: Back plane communication and VxMP Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: System hangs for certain Image sizes Subject: serial ports, ioGlobalStdSet & shellOrigStdSet Subject: Re: burn boot image into boot flash Subject: Is this really too hard to be impossible? Winsh/Target STDIN Subject: New Exploder Web Interface and other administrivia Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Task Hook Switch Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: PowerPC 7400 Altivec and VxWorks Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: tffs on PPMC750 Subject: Re: VxWorks and MIPS Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: FTP with mkdir Subject: Tamper Resistance Techniques Subject: Re: VxWorks and MIPS Subject: Re: netTask run put of stackmemory Subject: Problem with Tornado II debugger Subject: FTP-Server Subject: Re: Debugging with MMU Enabled Subject: Re: Task Hook Switch Subject: Re: Is this really too hard to be impossible? Winsh/Target STDIN Subject: network initialization Subject: Re: network initialization Subject: Re: Tamper Resistance Techniques Subject: 162 Petra problem Subject: reloc overflow Subject: strange problem Subject: ring buffers Subject: Re: Is this really too hard to be impossible? Winsh/Target STDIN Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: MIME Cookies Subject: Re: Java or TCL with vxworks Subject: Re: ring buffers Subject: Logging Stuff.. Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: Logging Stuff.. Subject: discard route Subject: How to build and download tens of test applications into the VxWorks target Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: Task Hook Switch Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: CORBA-blocking on vxWorks Subject: Exception handling problem Subject: vxWorks and CORBA Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: unzip utility for vxworks Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Anyone experience with END interface changes of T2CP4 ? Subject: NFS Problem Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: How to build and download tens of test applications into the VxWorks target Subject: Re: Anyone experience with END interface changes of T2CP4 ? Subject: Re: unzip utility for vxworks Subject: using UGL for monochrome display Subject: Re: using UGL for monochrome display Subject: Linked List VME to PCI DMA with mv2604 and VxWorks 5.4 Subject: Re: strange problem Subject: Programming Flash from VxWorks Subject: Re: Problem with the VxWorks image size Subject: How to find the function name? Subject: muxBind Subject: Motorola 8260 cache and flash visibility Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: Logging Stuff.. Subject: invalid descriptor on a select... Subject: Re: The routing and interface table information Subject: Re: CORBA-blocking on vxWorks Subject: Re: How to find the function name? Subject: Re: T2 man pages??? Subject: Re: Task Hook Switch Subject: Re: reloc overflow Subject: Re: (beginer) Problem "catching" a cPCI interrupt Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: Booting error of making vxWorks image file at T2 project ficilities Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: re: network initialization Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: tffs on PPMC750 Subject: Re: network initialization Subject: Re: network initialization Subject: VXWTask vs task lifecycle Subject: interrupt controller 8259 Subject: Any form of sleep mode in VxWorks?? Subject: Is the copied SDRAM version of VxWorks preserved Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: CORBA-blocking on vxWorks Subject: re: Is the copied SDRAM version of VxWorks preserved Subject: re: Any form of sleep mode in VxWorks?? Subject: Re: Logging Stuff.. Subject: RE: Any form of sleep mode in VxWorks?? Subject: VxWorks Subject: Re: network initialization Subject: Re: network initialization Subject: Re: Is the copied SDRAM version of VxWorks preserved Subject: Re: Is the copied SDRAM version of VxWorks preserved Subject: bootrom on the PPC7400 Subject: loopback problems Subject: Re: Subject: vxworks.st and vxwork's project facility Subject: Target connection lost Subject: prjConfig.c and kernelInit() Subject: Re: vxworks.st and vxwork's project facility Subject: re: VxWorks Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: setjmp and longjmp Subject: VxWorks Clock Setting Subject: Re: VxWorks Clock Setting Subject: Re: Programming Flash from VxWorks Subject: Re: prjConfig.c and kernelInit() Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: [Help Me] task Delay less than sys clk tick Subject: Tornado2 and command-line make Subject: Re: Tornado2 and command-line make Subject: need simple quick help concerning MAKE Subject: copying to RAM file sysytem in vxworks Subject: Re: need simple quick help concerning MAKE Subject: Re: need simple quick help concerning MAKE Subject: Re: need simple quick help concerning MAKE Subject: Re: interrupt controller 8259 Subject: vxworks image Subject: Execution speed problem Subject: Link a picture to a ROM-image Subject: Re: Linking errors Subject: [Fwd: multiply defined symbols] Subject: TEst 'C' program and vxWorks linking. Subject: 68K FPP Exceptions Subject: Re: Linking errors Subject: Re: [Help Me] task Delay less than sys clk tick Subject: Re: Link a picture to a ROM-image Subject: Re: Link a picture to a ROM-image Subject: Re: Link a picture to a ROM-image Subject: Re: How to find the function name? Subject: re: Execution speed problem Subject: BSP for MIPS CW4000 architecture Subject: Multiply defined symbols Subject: vxWorks bootrom to load NetBSD Subject: Re: 68K FPP Exceptions Subject: Re: serial ports, ioGlobalStdSet & shellOrigStdSet Subject: Re: setjmp and longjmp Subject: Re: VxWorks Clock Setting Subject: DHCP Client Subject: VxSim running on win98? Subject: Re: Multiply defined symbols Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Subject: Re: Linking errors Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: Multiply defined symbols Subject: warnings Subject: Re: How to find the function name? Subject: Re: How to find the function name? Subject: Binary files and Gnu tools. Subject: network driver hang problem Subject: Re: Multiply defined symbols Subject: Re: VXWTask vs task lifecycle Subject: Re: [Help Me] task Delay less than sys clk tick Subject: Re: VxSim running on win98? Subject: Re: VxSim running on win98? Subject: Re: VxSim running on win98? Subject: problem with open file descriptors Subject: Serial Interrupts Subject: Re: [Help Me] task Delay less than sys clk tick Subject: WRS SNMP stack Subject: Re: Link a picture to a ROM-image Subject: Re: Serial Interrupts Subject: Re: Multiply defined symbols Subject: some basic questions... Subject: Re: some basic questions... Subject: Re: some basic questions... Subject: Re: changing console options Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: [Q] END Driver Problems(Including Source code) Subject: Re: Serial Interrupts Subject: Combining downloadable and bootable projects Subject: link to archive of this newsgroup? Subject: counting semaphores Subject: Re: counting semaphores Subject: Re: link to archive of this newsgroup? Subject: bootLoadModule Subject: Re: bootLoadModule Subject: Re: Combining downloadable and bootable projects Subject: bootLoadModule again Subject: C++ and VxSim? Subject: Re: bootLoadModule again Subject: Re: C++ and VxSim? Subject: sendto() failing with errno 13 (permission denied) Subject: Tornado debugging Subject: Re: counting semaphores Subject: Re: counting semaphores Subject: Re: bootLoadModule Subject: Re: bootLoadModule again Subject: Re: sendto() failing with errno 13 (permission denied) Subject: system time and sysClkRateSet() Subject: Re: bootLoadModule Subject: Re: bootLoadModule again Subject: Re: counting semaphores Subject: Re: Tornado debugging Subject: difference between vxWorks.bin and vxWorks.st? Subject: ISRs Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: ISRs Subject: Re: counting semaphores Subject: Re: ISRs Subject: re: TEst 'C' program and vxWorks linking. Subject: Re: ISRs Subject: getting fcc3 to work on the sbc8260 vxworks BSP Subject: Re: Binary files and Gnu tools. Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: ISRs Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [Help Me] task Delay less than sys clk tick Subject: Re: VxSim running on win98? Subject: RE: getting fcc3 to work on the sbc8260 vxworks BSP Subject: allocate large memory block Subject: Re: allocate large memory block Subject: Help needed - WindSNMP agent v1/v2 - sending Traps in SNMPv2 format Subject: Re: interrupt controller 8259 Subject: Re: difference between vxWorks.bin and vxWorks.st? Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: difference between vxWorks.bin and vxWorks.st? Subject: Re: ISRs Subject: Re: difference between vxWorks.bin and vxWorks.st? Subject: Re: difference between vxWorks.bin and vxWorks.st? Subject: Re: getting fcc3 to work on the sbc8260 vxworks BSP Subject: Re: Target connection lost Subject: Re: need simple quick help concerning MAKE Subject: Writing Debug messages to COM ports Subject: Re: ISRs Subject: JEENI ICE Subject: Re: JEENI ICE Subject: Quick Question I2C / UBR patch on 860p Subject: allocate large memory block Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: RPC UDP Sockets Problem Subject: Re: difference between vxWorks.bin and vxWorks.st? Subject: Re: Tornado debugging Subject: Re: Combining downloadable and bootable projects Subject: Re: Tornado debugging Subject: Re: Tornado debugging Subject: Re: difference between vxWorks.bin and vxWorks.st? Subject: VME Shared Memory Network Subject: Re: getting fcc3 to work on the sbc8260 vxworks BSP Subject: Help: Serial I/O PPC850, VxWorks 5.4, Tornado II Subject: Where to download Tornado 2.0 Windows 2000 Patch? Subject: Where to download Tornado 2.0 Windows 2000 Patch? Subject: ARM MMU vs. write to flash Subject: Re: Where to download Tornado 2.0 Windows 2000 Patch? Subject: network stability and unexpected breakpoints: Tornado 1.0.1 PowerPC Subject: Re: ISRs Subject: Re: Combining downloadable and bootable projects Subject: Re: Writing Debug messages to COM ports Subject: Re: How to spawn two target server for two different boards in one Subject: Re: Where to download Tornado 2.0 Windows 2000 Patch? Subject: Re: difference between vxWorks.bin and vxWorks.st? Subject: RE: VME Shared Memory Network Subject: Re: [Help Me] task Delay less than sys clk tick Subject: Re: Where to download Tornado 2.0 Windows 2000 Patch? Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: Where to download Tornado 2.0 Windows 2000 Patch? Subject: Re: network stability and unexpected breakpoints: Tornado 1.0.1 PowerPC Subject: using my custom BSP code to built a vxworks image Subject: Re: using my custom BSP code to built a vxworks image Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Subject: Using Rational with VxWorks Subject: Re: changing console options Subject: Re: Serial Interrupts Subject: Re: VME Shared Memory Network Subject: NPT Driver Templates Subject: END and BSD4.3 Subject: Re: Using Rational with VxWorks Subject: Re: problem with open file descriptors Subject: Re: allocate large memory block Subject: PCI network drivers in vxWorks Subject: Re: Using Rational with VxWorks Subject: Problem with Sockets Subject: re: PCI network drivers in vxWorks Subject: wtn50 Subject: Re: wtn50 Subject: Re: Problem with Sockets Subject: reflective memory. Subject: Re: reflective memory. Subject: Help with Target Server Subject: Priority based polling scheme Subject: Re: reflective memory. Subject: Re: VxWorks Clock Setting Subject: Need help: Booting MVME2308 from external flash Subject: Re: Programming Flash from VxWorks Subject: Retrieving ommand line parameters in VxSim Subject: Telnet Code for Windows? Subject: Re: Retrieving ommand line parameters in VxSim Subject: Re: link to archive of this newsgroup? Subject: Re: Priority based polling scheme Subject: ppc860 BSP help.. Subject: ppc860 BSP help.. Subject: Re: Need help: Booting MVME2308 from external flash Subject: NPT and END Subject: Re: ppc860 BSP help.. Subject: Re: VxWorks Clock Setting Subject: Re: Telnet Code for Windows? Subject: Re: NPT Driver Templates Subject: Re: END and BSD4.3 Subject: intDisable fail Subject: Updating IP Routing Table Subject: what's objLib? Subject: Datum bc635PMC time card Subject: RE: END and BSD4.3 Subject: Blocking terminal i/o Subject: vxsys.com Subject: Re: what's objLib? Subject: Re: Blocking terminal i/o Subject: issue about ccppc Subject: loading application module using startup script Subject: Re: Help: Serial I/O PPC850, VxWorks 5.4, Tornado II Subject: variable argument list (stdarg.h) problems Subject: Re: intDisable fail Subject: Re: Updating IP Routing Table Subject: booting Subject: "iosDevShow" and "devs" Subject: Re: loading application module using startup script Subject: Re: "iosDevShow" and "devs" Subject: TFFS on PPMC750 Subject: Re: Help: Serial I/O PPC850, VxWorks 5.4, Tornado II Subject: Re: intDisable fail Subject: Re: TFFS on PPMC750 Subject: Re: intDisable fail Subject: Re: what's objLib? Subject: Re: vxworks boot ROM_COPY Subject: SCSI problem Subject: NT hosted C++ Cross Compilers compatible with VxWorks/PPC Subject: 2604, Universe II and Sysreset Subject: Unitialized interrupt with MMU enabled on 8260 Subject: RE: 2604, Universe II and Sysreset Subject: Network stack 128-byte mbuf pool does not recover Subject: Re: Telnet Code for Windows? Subject: Re: Network stack 128-byte mbuf pool does not recover Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Subject: Re: reloc overflow Subject: booting Subject: Can not "Watchdog Timers" & "malloc" be used simultaneously ? Subject: TCP Socket Trouble Subject: re: 2604, Universe II and Sysreset Subject: Need for help: replace VxWorks network stack (SENS) with a 3rd Subject: Re: Can not "Watchdog Timers" & "malloc" be used simultaneously ? Subject: switch off mouse cursor Subject: split-by-reloc help? Subject: One module not syncing symbols with host symbol table Subject: Getting TMS started Subject: Re: switch off mouse cursor Subject: VxWorks resolver/DNS cache Subject: Re: what's objLib? Subject: Re: intDisable fail Subject: Download times to X86 board. Subject: Re: 2604, Universe II and Sysreset Subject: Testing an SNMP Agent... Subject: Re: One module not syncing symbols with host symbol table Subject: DHCP request before ATA download Subject: STL help in VxWorks Subject: Re: Getting TMS started Subject: Re: STL help in VxWorks Subject: where are _RType defined? Subject: Enable/disable interrupt Subject: AR386 utility provided vith T2 Subject: VME interrupts problem (longish) Subject: Re: VME interrupts problem (longish) Subject: Recruiment offer soft developer VxWorks in California Subject: UDP anomaly Subject: CD access from VxWorks calls Subject: call to pppInit() Subject: Re: vxworks boot ROM_COPY Subject: UDP eating mbufs!!! Subject: SM Networks and VxMP Subject: Re: One module not syncing symbols with host symbol table Subject: Re: One module not syncing symbols with host symbol table Subject: Re: TFFS on PPMC750 Subject: Re: SM Networks and VxMP Subject: Re: Task Hook Switch Subject: Re: SM Networks and VxMP Subject: Processor speed Subject: Re: SM Networks and VxMP Subject: Equal cost routing Subject: dosFs-2 + vxSim Subject: vxworks test Subject: vxworks test Subject: vxworks test Subject: vxworks test Subject: Need Info on End Driver FCC support for Ethernet connections... Subject: Re: Problem with Sockets : Files is not closed when one task is deleted Subject: visionclick beats singlestep? Subject: Break Loop(vxWorks). Subject: Re: visionclick beats singlestep? Subject: Please include my Email ID Subject: Re: Equal cost routing Subject: Socket structure Subject: Re: One module not syncing symbols with host symbol table Subject: IDMA sample for MPC860 Subject: T2 NT and several architectures Subject: Re: what's objLib? Subject: GNU tar Subject: Re: Break Loop(vxWorks). Subject: Re: StrataFlash low level drivers Subject: RE: GNU tar Subject: Re: Break Loop(vxWorks). Subject: problem on MCast routing Subject: writing ISR for com1 Subject: Re: Blocking terminal i/o Subject: Tornado-query Subject: How to change the stack size of tNetTask ? Subject: Problem with SIGNALS Subject: Re: writing ISR for com1 Subject: Re: loadModule fails on target shell but works with windShell Subject: Re: T2 NT and several architectures Subject: limit on vxsims? Subject: BSP problem with 80MHz TQM860 Subject: Level Vs Edge Triggered interrupts Subject: Re: Level Vs Edge Triggered interrupts Subject: Re: Creating files in the host(NT) Subject: Re: Building standalone vxworks image using project facility Subject: Re: Level Vs Edge Triggered interrupts Subject: problem with coffArmToBin Subject: Re: what's objLib? Subject: Re: Processor speed Subject: How to execute a Target Shell command from VxWorks Subject: Unable to use ifunit ("ln0") when building a vxWorks ROM image Subject: Re: How to execute a Target Shell command from VxWorks Subject: etherMultiAdd ENETRESET error for NPT driver Subject: Clist on VxWorks Subject: Re: Tornado debugging Subject: Re: visionclick beats singlestep? Subject: loadModule fails on target shell but works with windShell Subject: Re: what's objLib? Subject: Re: NPT and END Subject: Re: Problem with SIGNALS Subject: 2 x END drivers? Subject: measure cpu load in vxworks Subject: measure cpu load in vxworks Subject: dosFs-2 + vxSim (re-post) Subject: Re: Break Loop(vxWorks). Subject: Building standalone vxworks image using project facility Subject: help with reading character in raw mode from stdin Subject: Re: problem with coffArmToBin Subject: Re: measure cpu load in vxworks Subject: trueFFS?? DOSFS2.0?? Subject: Need info on timing a function Subject: Re: Break Loop(vxWorks). Subject: Re: where are _RType defined? Subject: rpcore backend Client Timed out. Subject: Re: Need info on timing a function Subject: Re: measure cpu load in vxworks Subject: Re: Tornado debugging Subject: Re: Tornado debugging Subject: Re: Tornado debugging Subject: VxWorks, PC/104 and ORiNOCO wireless lan Subject: DosFS 2.0?? trueFFS?? Subject: Re: Clist on VxWorks Subject: How do I get the default gateway address using VxWorks API? Subject: Re: what's objLib? Subject: Software floating point on i386EX target Subject: Software floating point on i386EX target Subject: vxWorks hangs on MCP750 board Subject: Re: what's objLib? Subject: Re: Clist on VxWorks Subject: Re: Clist on VxWorks Subject: Re: problem with coffArmToBin Subject: RAM_LO, RAM_HI & Config.h Subject: Video applications Subject: Re: Break Loop(vxWorks). Subject: Re: UDP eating mbufs!!! Subject: Re: what's objLib? Subject: Subject: QNX vs vxworks: comp.os.qnx posting Subject: Re: QNX vs vxworks: comp.os.qnx posting Subject: Re: Clist on VxWorks Subject: Re: RAM_LO, RAM_HI & Config.h Subject: How to access MySQL database ? Subject: Re: QNX vs vxworks: comp.os.qnx posting Subject: Re: vxWorks hangs on MCP750 board Subject: ROTS pros/cons Subject: re: measure cpu load in vxworks Subject: Tornado Prototyper on window ME, does it work? Subject: Re: Software floating point on i386EX target Subject: interrupts Subject: Timer Problems Subject: Re: interrupts Subject: loading vxworks in RAM Subject: Re: How do I get the default gateway address using VxWorks API? Subject: How to implement fixed location when build a bootable project Subject: Re: loading vxworks in RAM Subject: Re: QNX vs vxworks: comp.os.qnx posting Subject: T2.02 with 82559 Subject: Tornado Prototyper help !! Subject: Tornado Prototyper help !! Subject: Help with Tornado Prototyper !!! Subject: a BSP for 8260 Subject: Re: How to implement fixed location when build a bootable project Subject: create scripts or progs and run inside the shell Subject: Re: QNX vs vxworks: comp.os.qnx posting Subject: Re: interrupts Subject: Re: what's objLib? Subject: SimNt and WindML Subject: Re: SimNt and WindML Subject: Two Masters + Two NICs on a PCI Bus Subject: Re: How to execute a Target Shell command from VxWorks Subject: Re: Help with Tornado Prototyper !!! Subject: Tornado2 Windview Subject: dosFS2 & tarArchive Subject: Re: cc1plus fatal signal 125? Subject: How to get DNS server addr & default gateway addr from a DHCP server Subject: WTX AGENT_COMMUNICATION_ERROR Subject: Re: cc1plus fatal signal 125? Subject: Problems with PPP between Win95 and vxWorks Subject: AW: dosFS2 & tarArchive Subject: Re: T2.02 with 82559 Subject: DosFs2.0 on x86 Subject: Re: what's objLib? Subject: re: DosFs2.0 on x86 Subject: dhcp server Subject: Re: what's objLib? Subject: Re: SIS900 & TriMedia Subject: Unregistering the target server. Subject: Re: Timer Problems Subject: DosFs2 and RDM (Raima Database Manager) Subject: Mutex Semaphores in VxWorks Subject: JavaScript for VxWorks is now available Subject: RE: dosFS2 & tarArchive Subject: How do I change the TFTP server session task priority? Subject: Recall: Mutex Semaphores in VxWorks Subject: Re: what's objLib? Subject: RE: dosFS2 & tarArchive Subject: Re: Mutex Semaphores in VxWorks Subject: Telecom & VxWorks Opportunities Subject: Incorrect MPC8260 interrupt vector numbers Subject: Help: Software Emulation Exception Subject: Re: a BSP for 8260 Subject: Re: Mutex Semaphores in VxWorks Subject: sysToMonitor: restarting.... error Subject: Re: Symbol Lookup Subject: Re: TCP Socket Trouble Subject: Re: NT hosted C++ Cross Compilers compatible with VxWorks/PPC Subject: Re: PPC 821/823 with passive LCD display Subject: IPCP configure options ? Subject: Starting end after boot Subject: Re: Starting end after boot Subject: Re: SimNt and WindML Subject: Can I add any command into target shell?? Subject: Re: Can I add any command into target shell?? Subject: Re: Incorrect MPC8260 interrupt vector numbers Subject: loadmeter module Subject: SysAuxClock and periodic task Subject: Re: SysAuxClock and periodic task Subject: Re: Symbol Lookup Subject: Any details on semGiveDefer? Subject: Re: How do I change the TFTP server session task priority? Subject: digestOnly Subject: Reuse of the UDP Socket in vxWorks. Subject: boot from FAT32 drives Subject: dhcps used etherInputHook??? Subject: writev return ENOBUFS for UDP when iov_len is 64. Subject: Re: writev return ENOBUFS for UDP when iov_len is 64. Subject: Re: SysAuxClock and periodic task Subject: Re: SysAuxClock and periodic task Subject: executing script on windsh Subject: POSIX pipe, not pipeDrv Subject: DHCP client problems Subject: Using serial ports with VxSim Subject: Re: Any details on semGiveDefer? Subject: Re: executing script on windsh Subject: TGTSVR Exception when downloading Java files Subject: deleting task Subject: Two seperate ethernet adapters Subject: Re: what's objLib? Subject: help with mil-std-1553 Subject: Re: deleting task Subject: Trouble with "defunct processes" Subject: Re: what's objLib? Subject: Re: POSIX pipe, not pipeDrv Subject: Need help with updating an entry in DHCP server. Subject: Re: SysAuxClock and periodic task Subject: Need help !!! Subject: Shared Memory Booting Subject: VxWorks Library functions to drive Serial Interface (RS232)? Subject: Shared Resources Subject: vxworks query Subject: Tornado query Subject: Re: Shared Memory Booting Subject: mkboot utilities under vxworks Subject: Re: help with mil-std-1553 Subject: Re: help with mil-std-1553 Subject: Re: Need help with updating an entry in DHCP server. Subject: Re: Help: Software Emulation Exception Subject: re: Shared Resources Subject: ARP - Multiple Subnets , BSD and END Subject: Anybody did embedded development and board design around ultrasparc III chipset ? Subject: Re: boot from FAT32 drives Subject: etherInputHookAdd PROMISCOUS MODE ? Subject: ..F entries for HP-64 Subject: Glass cockpit vendor??? suggestions? Subject: Re: ..F entries for HP-64 <--- Ooops. Subject: How long is one tick in VxWorks? Subject: Re: How long is one tick in VxWorks? Subject: how to printf a 64bit long long? Subject: WTX EXCHANGE TIMEOUT Subject: How to concatenate bootrom and vxWorks with S-records Subject: Re: How to concatenate bootrom and vxWorks with S-records Subject: vxworks tyWrite( ) Subject: Re: vxworks query Subject: Re: mkboot utilities under vxworks Subject: DHCP Client Subject: Reading VxWorks-formatted disks on Unix Subject: Re: Reading VxWorks-formatted disks on Unix Subject: Re: DHCP Client Subject: Re: DHCP Client Subject: Re: DHCP Client Subject: Re: etherInputHookAdd PROMISCOUS MODE ? Subject: Can VxWorks withstand Denial of Service attacks? Subject: There are still some "source run-on" problems in the HTML versions of the Apex manuals Subject: Re: There are still some "source run-on" problems in the HTML versions of the Apex manuals <-- oops again. Subject: DHCP Server problem Subject: DHCP Server Subject: DHCP Subject: re: WTX EXCHANGE TIMEOUT Subject: Re: how to printf a 64bit long long? Subject: re-entrant version of signal? Subject: [Fwd: Fw: vxworks query] Subject: Fw: vxworks query Subject: vxworks query Subject: Help New Baby Subject: sockets: aborting an accept() call Subject: Re: How long is one tick in VxWorks? Subject: Re: How long is one tick in VxWorks? Subject: arp Query Subject: "VISA" software for VxWorks? Subject: [Q] Subclasses in CrossWind Watch Window Subject: Re: sockets: aborting an accept() call Subject: Re: How to concatenate bootrom and vxWorks with S-records Subject: VxWorks API : arp or rarp API Subject: How can the OS ignore ICMP redirects? Subject: [Q] END/NPT and MUX interface Subject: VxWorks serial driver problems Subject: Re: How to concatenate bootrom and vxWorks with S-records Subject: Re: Help: Software Emulation Exception Subject: Re: How to concatenate bootrom and vxWorks with S-records Subject: Re: how to printf a 64bit long long? Subject: How can I retreive TCP/UDP statistics Subject: vxworks help Subject: Re: WTX EXCHANGE TIMEOUT Subject: Re: how to printf a 64bit long long? Subject: ftpXfer Subject: DosFs2 1024 byte sector Subject: Re: sockets: aborting an accept() call Subject: Problem with RAM_HIGH_ADRS on MVME167 Subject: Re: [Q] Subclasses in CrossWind Watch Window Subject: Re: Problem with RAM_HIGH_ADRS on MVME167 Subject: An interesting question Subject: Re: Problem with RAM_HIGH_ADRS on MVME167 Subject: Re: An interesting question Subject: Free flash file system for vxworks? Subject: Win2K-Pro Internet Browsing Problems....HELP!!! Subject: Re: Problem with RAM_HIGH_ADRS on MVME167 Subject: Re: Free flash file system for vxworks? Subject: Re: Win2K-Pro Internet Browsing Problems....HELP!!! Subject: Re: Free flash file system for vxworks? Subject: Re: Free flash file system for vxworks? Subject: Re: ftpXfer Subject: IP stack performances Subject: Re: IP stack performances Subject: Re: An interesting question Subject: Re: An interesting question Subject: Re: An interesting question Subject: Semaphores and SEM_Q_PRIORITY Subject: Re: Free flash file system for vxworks? Subject: Re: sockets: aborting an accept() call Subject: Problems with shared memory network: target servers die, PCI Subject: BSP's for CETIA boards Subject: Re: Reading VxWorks-formatted disks on Unix Subject: Finding the address of the host Subject: Re: Debuging BSP Subject: RE: Problem with RAM_HIGH_ADRS on MVME167 Subject: Booting from flash Subject: Re: Finding the address of the host Subject: re: : Incorrect MPC8260 interrupt vector numbers Subject: Re: Booting from flash Subject: Simple NVRAM and SRAM question Subject: Re: Simple NVRAM and SRAM question Subject: getting CPU load Subject: lkup() and system hangs Subject: RE: : Incorrect MPC8260 interrupt vector numbers Subject: Problem with Default Route Subject: Test Subject: Identifying Valid vxWorks Image Subject: MVME162P and MVME172P BSPs Subject: I can't use nanosleep() in VXSim on PC ?? Subject: PC/104, wireless lan and PCMCIA adapter Subject: Booting from flash again Subject: Availability of a gigabit ethernet driver? Subject: Stack Size Subject: Re: Identifying Valid vxWorks Image Subject: Serial I/O query Subject: DosFs2.0 & Tffs Subject: tNetTask : undefined error Subject: Net components Subject: running shell script from code Subject: Re: I can't use nanosleep() in VXSim on PC ?? Subject: Re: Stack Size Subject: Re: tNetTask : undefined error Subject: Re: Booting from flash again Subject: Re: Net components Subject: Re: I can't use nanosleep() in VXSim on PC ?? Subject: Re: Stack Size Subject: Re: Booting from flash Subject: regression test under NT Subject: chkdsk without dosFs 2.0: how? Subject: Re: Booting from flash Subject: Profibus Subject: Do not getting interrupts on PentiumPC Subject: Help - DHCP Server Question Subject: Re: Do not getting interrupts on PentiumPC Subject: Re: regression test under NT Subject: _inet_addr, where is it? Subject: GCC 2.95.3 for VxWorks-WinNT (Tornado 2) Subject: Build Script Question Subject: Re: DosFs2.0 & Tffs Subject: Re: Stack Size Subject: Re: Build Script Question Subject: Attaching debugger to a spawning task... Subject: Error Loading Boot File Subject: Re: GCC 2.95.3 for VxWorks-WinNT (Tornado 2) Subject: Need some helpful advice about how to write Wireless LAN Driver Subject: Re: regression test under NT Subject: Using iosFdNew in a NPT sockets back end. Subject: Re: Error Loading Boot File Subject: Re: Attaching debugger to a spawning task... Subject: Re: Build Script Question Subject: VxWorks Showing Time in BST Subject: Re: VxWorks Showing Time in BST Subject: Re: VxWorks Showing Time in BST Subject: Re: GCC 2.95.3 for VxWorks-WinNT (Tornado 2) Subject: MIPs BSP, templateMips, multiplexed interrupts and exceptions? Subject: Re: Error Loading Boot File Subject: Re: Attaching debugger to a spawning task... Subject: Re: _inet_addr, where is it? Subject: Re: GCC 2.95.3 for VxWorks-WinNT (Tornado 2) Subject: Re: Profibus Subject: Re: Attaching debugger to a spawning task... Subject: Re: Attaching debugger to a spawning task... Subject: VxWorks PPP Subject: Re: How can I retreive TCP/UDP statistics Subject: loadModule() with target-resident object files Subject: Re: loadModule() with target-resident object files Subject: Re: loadModule() with target-resident object files Subject: Cannot cd to mounted NFS directory Subject: Re: loadModule() with target-resident object files Subject: How binArrayStart is gotten Subject: DosFs2 file load problem Subject: Re: GCC 2.95.3 for VxWorks-WinNT (Tornado 2) Subject: Re: VxWorks PPP Subject: Ethernet performance Subject: Re: DosFs2 file load problem Subject: NAT Subject: Re: NAT Subject: Re: VxWorks Showing Time in BST Subject: Re: stripppc and objcopyppc Subject: Re: How binArrayStart is gotten Subject: high resolution clock Subject: Re: loadModule fails on target shell but works with windShell Subject: Re: How do I get the default gateway address using VxWorks API? Subject: Re: Two Masters + Two NICs on a PCI Bus Subject: read() call is blocked Subject: Re: loadModule() with target-resident object files Subject: Re: loadModule() with target-resident object files Subject: Re: read() call is blocked Subject: Re: boot vxworks on PC Subject: Re: read() call is blocked Subject: Re: loadModule() with target-resident object files Subject: Re: 2 x END drivers? Subject: RE: How binArrayStart is gotten Subject: Re: _inet_addr, where is it? Subject: Replacement of VxWorks calls for Windows target Subject: SCSI ZIP drive Subject: Re: Cannot cd to mounted NFS directory Subject: Re: high resolution clock Subject: END OBJ inquiry? Subject: VxWorks and arrowpoint Subject: exception handling Subject: Re: exception handling Subject: SCSI Iomega ZIP drive Subject: Re: Replacement of VxWorks calls for Windows target Subject: Re: Ethernet performance Subject: Power Management on Pentium III Subject: send() exception Subject: help: adding cgi launch on Rapid Logic for web Subject: Re: Cannot cd to mounted NFS directory Subject: help please, very urgent Subject: Re: help please, very urgent Subject: help please Subject: help please, very urgent Subject: Re: help please Subject: Re: loadModule() with target-resident object files Subject: Re: loadModule() with target-resident object files Subject: RE: read() call is blocked Subject: Re: help please, very urgent Subject: Re: Error Loading Boot File Subject: Where to get a free chkdsk routine? Subject: USENET comp.os.vxworks. Subject: RE: read() call is blocked Subject: Re: Error Loading Boot File Subject: Processor IDLE Time Subject: "host name" entry on the vxWorks boot line Subject: RE: Where to get a free chkdsk routine? Subject: RE: Where to get a free chkdsk routine? Subject: Moving user-compiled image??? Subject: Re: "host name" entry on the vxWorks boot line Subject: Re: help please Subject: ioctl and serial port setup Subject: interrupts from a serial board Subject: Re: Processor IDLE Time Subject: Re: loadModule fails on target shell but works with windShell Subject: Re: "host name" entry on the vxWorks boot line Subject: Long kernel timer interrupts Subject: Mounting ATA cdrom on pentium target Subject: Re: SCSI Iomega ZIP drive Subject: Re: interrupts from a serial board Subject: Re: help please, very urgent Subject: Re: help please Subject: help please Subject: Re: "host name" entry on the vxWorks boot line Subject: Insight debugger with Tornado II? Subject: RE: Mounting ATA cdrom on pentium target Subject: vxworks bit addressing issue Subject: Re: Processor IDLE Time Subject: Re: high resolution clock Subject: PKZIP for vxworks? Subject: Re: help please Subject: Re: send() exception Subject: Re: vxworks bit addressing issue Subject: NFS file copy corruption Subject: RE: vxworks bit addressing issue Subject: HSRP or VRRP Subject: Re: help please Subject: Re: help please, very urgent Subject: Re: Long kernel timer interrupts Subject: Re: vxworks bit addressing issue Subject: Re: SCSI Iomega ZIP drive Subject: Re: vxworks bit addressing issue Subject: Re: vxworks bit addressing issue Subject: Compilation error (cannot find header) Subject: Re: Compilation error (cannot find header) Subject: Re: downloadable application.. Subject: MIPS32 e_flag errors.. Subject: Newbie Question Subject: Re: MIPS32 e_flag errors.. Subject: Re: MIPS32 e_flag errors.. Subject: ppcbug + bootloader for powerpc? Subject: How to add incoming IP packet at ethernet level. Subject: Re: MIPS32 e_flag errors.. Subject: Getting Immr register for MPC860 Subject: textual output Subject: Re: END OBJ inquiry? Subject: ftpXfer problem (works only 8 times) Subject: Re: Do not getting interrupts on PentiumPC Subject: Re: textual output Subject: Re: ftpXfer Subject: Re: Long kernel timer interrupts Subject: Re: textual output Subject: Re: Getting Immr register for MPC860 Subject: VxWorks : Device drivers Subject: -fvolatile Subject: How to get the size of bootrom Subject: Re: textual output Subject: Re: read() call is blocked Subject: vxWorks info sites Subject: Re: PKZIP for vxworks? Subject: Re: MIPS32 e_flag errors.. Subject: Re: MIPS32 e_flag errors.. Subject: Re: -fvolatile Subject: Re: VxWorks : Device drivers Subject: tFFS and dosFs in VxWorks Subject: Re: vxworks bit addressing issue Subject: salary info for EMBEDDED Eng's Subject: FTP transfer mode Subject: Re: vxworks bit addressing issue Subject: RE: vxworks bit addressing issue Subject: Re: MIPS32 e_flag errors.. Subject: Re: vxworks bit addressing issue Subject: Re: tFFS and dosFs in VxWorks Subject: vLAN- 802.1q Subject: A24 on MVME2400 Subject: Re: vxworks bit addressing issue Subject: MVME 2604 and PPCBUG and test routines Subject: Re: "host name" entry on the vxWorks boot line Subject: Re: "host name" entry on the vxWorks boot line Subject: Re: "host name" entry on the vxWorks boot line Subject: Re: vxworks bit addressing issue Subject: RE: vxworks bit addressing issue Subject: Re: A24 on MVME2400 Subject: GoAhead Web Server Subject: Re: -fvolatile Subject: mget implementation Subject: what is opposite to etherOutput ? Subject: RPC under VxWorks Subject: RE: mget implementation Subject: freebsd cross compiler Subject: US-CA-Sr Embedded Software Developer Subject: Re: MVME 2604 and PPCBUG and test routines Subject: Re: Debuging BSP Subject: Re: -fvolatile Subject: Re: GoAhead Web Server Subject: ARP Timer value Subject: PCI problem. Subject: strang ping time Subject: Re: ARP Timer value Subject: Re: Debuging BSP Subject: Re: freebsd cross compiler Subject: Re: FTP transfer mode Subject: Re: RPC under VxWorks Subject: Re: Debuging BSP Subject: Arpresolve: llinfo Subject: Re: -fvolatile Subject: Re: 2 ENDs and 1 IP layer.. Subject: redirecting the standard output Subject: Re: MVME 2604 and PPCBUG and test routines Subject: redirecting the standard output to different std outputs? Subject: elftobin gives error for vxWorks_rom Subject: Re: US-CA-Sr Embedded Software Developer Subject: INCLUDE options for rebuilding kernel Subject: Re: US-CA-Sr Embedded Software Developer Subject: Changing ld's parameters to abort script Subject: Re: US-CA-Sr Embedded Software Developer Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output to different std outputs? Subject: Re: freebsd cross compiler Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output Subject: Re: Changing ld's parameters to abort script Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output Subject: Re: send() exception Subject: Linking .a into the .out files Subject: Re: Linking .a into the .out files Subject: nfsExport of CDROM Subject: How do I send a raw Ethernet packet? Subject: Re: elftobin gives error for vxWorks_rom Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output to different std outputs? Subject: Re: -fvolatile Subject: Experiences with Tornado AE Subject: Booting VxWorks over the network on a PC Subject: re: Mounting ATA cdrom on pentium target Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output Subject: Re: Debuging BSP Subject: JPEG for VxWorks Subject: Re: Linking .a into the .out files Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output Subject: looking for compiler Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output Subject: Optimized compiler for x86 (PentiumPro) under VxWorks Subject: Re: Linking .a into the .out files Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output Subject: Re: Optimized compiler for x86 (PentiumPro) under VxWorks Subject: Has anyone done any developing for LXE hand held terminals? Subject: Re: Booting VxWorks over the network on a PC Subject: Re: JPEG for VxWorks Subject: Triggering 'abort script' option Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output Subject: Re: Triggering 'abort script' option Subject: Re: Optimized compiler for x86 (PentiumPro) under VxWorks Subject: Re: JPEG for VxWorks Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output Subject: Re: lkup() and system hangs Subject: STL for VxWorks Subject: STL for VxWorks Subject: Re: Green Hills MULTI IDE for VxWorks Subject: Re: lkup() and system hangs Subject: MPIC Spurious Interrupt Subject: Question on loading multiple object modules during runtime Subject: Re: STL for VxWorks Subject: ftpCommand waits Subject: ftpCommand waits Subject: e_flags and MIPS details on why Subject: Re: Question on loading multiple object modules during runtime Subject: Re: Question on loading multiple object modules during runtime Subject: Re: RPC under VxWorks Subject: Re: Booting VxWorks over the network on a PC Subject: Re: Green Hills MULTI IDE for VxWorks Subject: Re: Green Hills MULTI IDE for VxWorks Subject: Network initialization problem Subject: Can't mount volume - Help! Subject: Using Instruction and Data Cache on 8260 Subject: Re: Using Instruction and Data Cache on 8260 Subject: Dynamic module loading and source level debugging Subject: VxWorks5.4 vs WinCE 3.0? Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output Subject: Re: STL for VxWorks Subject: Re: sockets: aborting an accept() call Subject: exception 1792? Subject: undelete for DosFs2? Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output Subject: Des21143 problem Subject: Finding out which piece of code modified a memory location ? Subject: Problem with character input in host shell Subject: vxWorks 5.4 and GDB 5.0 Subject: Inscrease memory for target Subject: Re: Problem with character input in host shell Subject: Re: Finding out which piece of code modified a memory location ? Subject: Re: Des21143 problem Subject: Socket on VxSim Subject: Re: Increase memory for target Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output Subject: Shared Memory Network on CPCI Subject: Have anyone successfully run TAO (CORBA) on vxworks Subject: RE: Shared Memory Network on CPCI Subject: Shared Memory Network on CPCI Subject: END driver Template.c, is it good? Subject: Re: Shared Memory Network on CPCI Subject: threads Subject: MCP750 Compact PCI Interrupt hook problem Subject: Does ppp daemon exist in vxworks? Subject: Re: MCP750 Compact PCI Interrupt hook problem Subject: Re: 2 ENDs and 1 IP layer.. Subject: I want to have NAT. Subject: Re: Optimized compiler for x86 (PentiumPro) under VxWorks Subject: If install Tornado 2 on Widnows without the patch file for Windows2000 Subject: smart way to wait? Subject: Re: If install Tornado 2 on Widnows without the patch file for Windows2000 Subject: Sandisk under vxWorks Subject: Re: smart way to wait? Subject: Re: If install Tornado 2 on Widnows without the patch file for Windows2000 Subject: Performance issues with FCC on 8260... Subject: Question on PCI to ISA Bridge PC87200 VxWorks driver Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output to different std outputs? Subject: Performance hit on a 8260 based system when using ATM... Subject: Re: PKZIP for vxworks? Subject: Multi-POP BCC mail notification Subject: Multi-POP BCC mail notification Subject: Multi-POP BCC mail notification Subject: Multi-POP BCC mail notification Subject: Re: Finding out which piece of code modified a memory location ? Subject: Multi-POP BCC mail notification Subject: Multi-POP BCC mail notification Subject: Dec 21143 problem in full duplex mode Subject: Re: smart way to wait? Subject: Bounce Filter Tuning Subject: Re: Dec 21143 problem in full duplex mode Subject: Network initialization for Intel 82559ER Subject: Re: Performance hit on a 8260 based system when using ATM... Subject: 2 ENDs and 1 IP layer.. Subject: Re: Using Instruction and Data Cache on 8260 Subject: Where can I download the patch file of Tornado 2 for Windows2000 Subject: Re: Where can I download the patch file of Tornado 2 for Windows2000 Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output to different std outputs? Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output Subject: Green Hills MULTI IDE for VxWorks Subject: Re: redirecting the standard output Subject: how to use rBuffCreate Subject: Re: Using Instruction and Data Cache on 8260 Subject: Socket allocation problems on VxWorks 5.3 using SVME179 DY4 card Subject: Socket error on VxWorks - PPC DY4 SVME179 card Subject: Re: Socket error on VxWorks - PPC DY4 SVME179 card Subject: multi-threaded application and socket Subject: Re: PKZIP for vxworks? Subject: Large disk partition and format Subject: Tornado 2.0.1 for ARM README.TXT? Subject: Socket timeouts and number of sockets Subject: Re: Shared Memory Network on CPCI Subject: Changing telnetd port? Subject: Task getting suspended under debugger Subject: Re: Socket error on VxWorks - PPC DY4 SVME179 card Subject: RE: Task getting suspended under debugger Subject: Re: Tornado 2.0.1 for ARM README.TXT? Subject: Re: Changing telnetd port? Subject: Has bug in basic_string been fixed? Subject: Re: Sandisk under vxWorks Subject: Re: freebsd cross compiler Subject: How to setup a Software Interrupt? Subject: Structures without holes? Subject: Re: Structures without holes? Subject: Re: Finding out which piece of code modified a memory location ? Subject: Function backtrace Subject: New MCP750s Don't Run VxWorks Boot Code Subject: cannot rx UDP broadcast messages after binding Subject: workQPanic Subject: Re: Finding out which piece of code modified a memory location ? Subject: Re: Task getting suspended under debugger Subject: Re: Finding out which piece of code modified a memory location ? Subject: Re: workQPanic Subject: Conversion from 1.0.1 to 2.0 Subject: compiler option Subject: Re: Task getting suspended under debugger Subject: Re: Finding out which piece of code modified a memory location ? Subject: Re: Function backtrace Subject: Is anyone using the dec21x4xEnd driver without Serial ROM? Subject: Semaphore loss after interrupt Subject: Re: compiler option Subject: FREE DOWNLOAD - www.vanethian.com - www.tomatic.it 102287 Subject: Re: Structures without holes? Subject: Re: compiler option Subject: create directory in the file system in vxworks Subject: Re: cannot rx UDP broadcast messages after binding Subject: Version Release History and Safety-Critical Applications Subject: Re: Structures without holes? Subject: Re: Function backtrace Subject: Re: Dynamic module loading and source level debugging Subject: 860 BSP Development Subject: IDT 32332 and EPI Majic Subject: Re: 860 BSP Development Subject: Re: 860 BSP Development Subject: If Tornado2 PowerPC8245 is the same as PowerPC860 Subject: vxworks nfsMount client side attributes Subject: Re: create directory in the file system in vxworks Subject: Re: create directory in the file system in vxworks Subject: Detect open File Subject: Floating point funktions missing Subject: 3c905C Ethernet on pcPentium Subject: DHCP Configuration error Subject: FTP hangs around during image download Subject: Tornado2 MIPS ccaXXX temporary files issue Subject: VxWorks and Windows Subject: Re: Tornado2 MIPS ccaXXX temporary files issue Subject: Network Protocol Toolkit (NPT) Subject: Ethernet Source code Subject: dcacheDevTune parameter Subject: END driver for intel/dec 21143 ethernet chip Subject: Panicked Sparc resulting from an orphan? Subject: Re: Conversion from 1.0.1 to 2.0 Subject: Re: VxWorks and Windows Subject: Re: Ethernet Source code Subject: Re: If Tornado2 PowerPC8245 is the same as PowerPC860 Subject: vxWorks and PC/104 Subject: Re: PKZIP for vxworks? Subject: Encryption library for vxWorks ? Subject: Looking for a methodology (book or article ) describing processor selection/sizing (Clock Rate/MIPS, Memory size) at early s/w design stage Subject: Page fault Subject: Re: Encryption library for vxWorks ? Subject: Re: PKZIP for vxworks? Subject: Re: VxWorks and Windows Subject: how can i boot a pentium (pc) with vxworks from a floppy Subject: Re: DHCP Configuration error Subject: Re: Performance issues with FCC on 8260... Subject: Help with disabling Multicast Subject: Re: Floating point funktions missing Subject: triggering lib question Subject: Re: Floating point funktions missing Subject: Help me ............... Subject: Re: Serial I/O query Subject: Re: PKZIP for vxworks? Subject: serial port access in MBX860 Subject: help me.................. Subject: Re: Page fault Subject: wtxtcl problem (bgerror) Subject: Re: cannot rx UDP broadcast messages after binding Subject: Re: Encryption library for vxWorks ? Subject: Re: workQPanic Subject: Re: DHCP Configuration error Subject: Synchronize symbol table Subject: Re: PKZIP for vxworks? Subject: PPP Startup error Subject: Re: workQPanic Subject: Re: PKZIP for vxworks? Subject: RE: Help me ............... Subject: Corba Support in VxWorks AE Subject: Re: Synchronize symbol table Subject: Writable non readable memory Subject: Re: cannot rx UDP broadcast messages after binding Subject: Re: Corba Support in VxWorks AE Subject: Re: Synchronize symbol table Subject: Re: Tornado 2.0.1 for ARM README.TXT? Subject: Re: Tornado 2.0.1 for ARM README.TXT? Subject: intel 82562ET nic Subject: VxWorks Questions Subject: Q about 21143&971 Subject: Re: Version Release History and Safety-Critical Applications Subject: Re: Q about 21143&971 Subject: Re: workQPanic Subject: Re: workQPanic Subject: Re: SCSI ZIP drive Subject: intConnect Subject: PerformancePack -ProfilerScope and MemScope Subject: ipAttache() Subject: Re: intConnect Subject: Re: intConnect Subject: Re: PKZIP for vxworks? Subject: Timer Library for VxWorks ! Subject: Events in VxWorks !! Subject: Archive Subject: Re: Events in VxWorks !! Subject: Problem on DHCP Relay Agent Subject: Accessing Local drive with VxSim Subject: Re: Accessing Local drive with VxSim Subject: Re: Events in VxWorks !! Subject: Viewing info after memPartFree error Subject: Re: Ethernet Source code Subject: Re: Network Protocol Toolkit (NPT) Subject: Re: Archive Subject: 2 ENDs below mux ...again Subject: Benchmarking studies for VxWorks? Subject: Re: Events in VxWorks !! Subject: Read XML file from Target Agent Subject: StrongArm BSP Subject: Re: intConnect Subject: ethernet driver Q.... Subject: CORBA security Subject: bootpParamsGet for vxWorks 5.4 does not work? Subject: DE520 adapter and AlphaVME 5 Subject: Re: Viewing info after memPartFree error Subject: Re: vxWorks and PC/104 Subject: Re: how can i boot a pentium (pc) with vxworks from a floppy Subject: RE: bootpParamsGet for vxWorks 5.4 does not work? Subject: bootpParamsGet for vxWorks 5.4 does not work? Subject: serial port access in MBX860 Subject: Re: workQPanic Subject: Serial port access Subject: WindView 2.0 under Solaris 2.4 Subject: Re: Events in VxWorks !! Subject: Re: Events in VxWorks !! Subject: makeSymTbl for Linux Subject: Re: Timer Library for VxWorks ! Subject: Re: Synchronize symbol table Subject: how to load SCC2 and SCC3 at the same time? Subject: Arm support? Subject: Re: Viewing info after memPartFree error Subject: Getting core dump after a crash Subject: Getting the core dump Subject: Re: Synchronize symbol table Subject: Re: Synchronize symbol table Subject: Re: makeSymTbl for Linux Subject: Re: Getting core dump after a crash Subject: DosFs2 1024 byte sector Subject: PPC and data cache Subject: Some Querry on File Access and Network Connection using Vxsim Subject: Need help in FTP over PPP Subject: bootLoadModule implementation Subject: Re: ethernet driver Q.... Subject: Changing IP Parameter 'on the fly' Subject: Re: Need help in FTP over PPP Subject: Re: Changing IP Parameter 'on the fly' Subject: Re: Arm support? Subject: Memory Partion Usage in VxWorks ! Subject: writing PCI device drivers Subject: Re: Synchronize symbol table Subject: Re: VxWorks memory error when closing ADA file Subject: Re: PPC and data cache Subject: Re: Viewing info after memPartFree error Subject: Re: makeSymTbl for Linux Subject: Re: workQPanic Subject: Building Cygnus GNU tools for VxWorks? Subject: cca?: warnings referencing a temp file..... Subject: Re: If Tornado2 PowerPC8245 is the same as PowerPC860 Subject: Re: VxWorks memory error when closing ADA file Subject: Re: If Tornado2 PowerPC8245 is the same as PowerPC860 Subject: serial port driver for TI TL16C752B chip Subject: Re: Viewing info after memPartFree error Subject: memPartInfoGet Subject: making changes in prjConfig? Subject: Re: Free flash file system for vxworks? Subject: Re: making changes in prjConfig? Subject: Re: StrongArm BSP Subject: Re: PPC and data cache Subject: tffs Subject: Assabet and vxworks Subject: Re: Free flash file system for vxworks? Subject: Re: Building Cygnus GNU tools for VxWorks? Subject: MIPS / IDTS134 /BCM3350 question Subject: Re: cca?: warnings referencing a temp file..... Subject: MIPS / IDTS134 /BCM3350 question Subject: select and taskdelete Subject: Re: making changes in prjConfig? Subject: memory alignment Subject: Re: select and taskdelete Subject: Timer and Semaphoretake Subject: Re: Viewing info after memPartFree error Subject: Re: Building Cygnus GNU tools for VxWorks? Subject: help please Subject: future of java Subject: strerror Subject: Re: Large disk partition and format Subject: Re: Free flash file system for vxworks? Subject: Re: strerror Subject: Re: strerror Subject: daylight saving issue in vxworks (tornado) Subject: re: daylight saving issue in vxworks (tornado) Subject: Target server, wdbrpc, vxWorks_rom: which core file? Subject: Re: PPC and data cache Subject: Re: making changes in prjConfig? Subject: Re: memory alignment Subject: Preprocessor problem on 2000 Subject: PCMCIA-ISDN-Cards under VxWorks Subject: Shell task status Subject: Re: Newbie needs help with embedded SNMP agent Subject: Vxworks Subject: Re: strerror Subject: Porting C code Subject: what to do in sysHwInit? Subject: Re: PPC and data cache Subject: variable couldn't pass into function Subject: People with DEC21143 or MII Subject: Re: Target server, wdbrpc, vxWorks_rom: which core file? Subject: Re: strerror Subject: scc2 Subject: Re: PPC and data cache Subject: re: Vxworks Subject: re: Vxworks Subject: filesystem query Subject: ESTMDPPro ethernet adress Subject: Events in VxWorks! Subject: VXWORKS : Modem connectivity Subject: Re: Events in VxWorks! Subject: Re: Events in VxWorks! Subject: Serial Port Subject: Magneto Optical Disks Subject: Re: future of java Subject: Re: bootpParamsGet for vxWorks 5.4 does not work? Subject: Re: what to do in sysHwInit? Subject: VxWorks TSFS and disk copy Subject: List News Updates Subject: Re: Porting C code Subject: Re: Vxworks Subject: Re: scc2 Subject: Re: Serial Port Subject: Re: Free flash file system for vxworks? Subject: Re: future of java Subject: Re: Target server, wdbrpc, vxWorks_rom: which core file? Subject: Re: future of java Subject: Re: Shell task status Subject: BSP design -- Cache / SDRAM-Burst problem on MPC823e CPU Subject: Re: future of java Subject: RE: Some Querry on File Access and Network Connection using Vxsim Subject: RE: Vxworks Subject: RE: select and taskdelete Subject: RE: Serial port access Subject: Check ethernet link OK? Subject: RE: Serial port access Subject: RE: Serial port access Subject: Tornado Subject: RE: Vxworks Subject: Re: Tornado Subject: Re: Speedup games, programs and get more FREE RAM Subject: Re: Tornado Subject: RE: Tornado Subject: Intel StrataFlash driver? Subject: Re: Handling large UDP message Subject: how to pass variable to C function Subject: Dumping the core image of vxWorks. Subject: Interrupt Stack Subject: job in Montreal (PCI device drivers) Subject: RE: Serial port access Subject: Performance issues with FCC on 8260... Subject: RE: Performance issues with FCC on 8260... Subject: Interrupt Application Subject: Anyone got a Sandpoint VxWorks bootstrap image? Subject: Re: 860 BSP Development Subject: Re: If Tornado2 PowerPC8245 is the same as PowerPC860 Subject: T2.0 BSP development Subject: re: Vxworks Subject: Interrupt Application Questions Subject: Re: Performance issues with FCC on 8260... Subject: Re: T2.0 BSP development Subject: Regarding offset for ideDevCreate Subject: mcp750 raven timer Subject: Vectorcast - Unit Level Testing Subject: Re: T2.0 BSP development Subject: mv5100 com2 bit diddling? Subject: POSIX timers Subject: Re: mv5100 com2 bit diddling? Subject: Re: Events in VxWorks! Subject: Opportunity Subject: Re: Tornado Subject: Re: Interrupt Application Questions Subject: RE: Subject: Re: Handling large UDP message Subject: Re: Handling large UDP message Subject: vxWorks boot hangs on MCP750 Subject: Re: how to pass variable to C function Subject: Re: Dumping the core image of vxWorks. Subject: Re: Handling large UDP message Subject: Variation in clock_gettime() Subject: strip and hook debug symbol table Subject: Re: Variation in clock_gettime() Subject: Tornado(Dead Task) Subject: Re: Tornado(Dead Task) Subject: Re: Tornado(Dead Task) Subject: Re: Tornado(Dead Task) Subject: Lynx Subject: RE: Tornado(Dead Task) Subject: AW: Tornado(Dead Task) Subject: Need help using symbios 53c895a SCSI controller Subject: intUnConnect() Subject: Re: intUnConnect() Subject: CPM ethernet on MPC 8xx Subject: re: Tornado(Dead Task) Subject: Tornado(Dead Task) (02-Mai-2001 13:40) Subject: Newbie O.S. compatibilty ques... Subject: Re: CPM ethernet on MPC 8xx Subject: loadModule and unload Subject: Zinc and memory Subject: CPU Utilization and Memory Usage Subject: Re: POSIX timers Subject: Re: Tornado(Dead Task) Subject: Re: future of java Subject: How to get variable from wind web server using java applet? Subject: Re: intUnConnect() Subject: Re: vxWorks boot hangs on MCP750 Subject: tornado I launcher problem Subject: Truetime VME-SG2 Subject: Could not enable second serial port of MBX860 Subject: Re: loadModule and unload Subject: Re: Could not enable second serial port of MBX860 Subject: ads860 bootrom_res Subject: TFFS in vxWorks Subject: Shared Memory Network Gateway Problems Subject: Re: Could not enable second serial port of MBX860 Subject: Re: StrongArm BSP Subject: Tornado 2.0 on Solaris dumps core, hangs X server Subject: Re: loadModule and unload Subject: TFTP implementation in VxWorks Subject: ntPassFsLib Subject: GateD porting to VxWorks Subject: Re: ntPassFsLib Subject: SNMP with Two End Devices Subject: VXSim prototyping Subject: Re: ntPassFsLib Subject: Re: ntPassFsLib Subject: MCP750 & MCPN750 boards for SALE!! Subject: Re: ntPassFsLib Subject: Re: TFFS in vxWorks Subject: Re: future of java Subject: Re: ntPassFsLib Subject: Boot of vxworks Subject: Booting over network - problem Subject: Re: Booting over network - problem Subject: Re: Booting over network - problem Subject: Send Magic Packet Subject: [Q] two endSend() for one sendto() Subject: Re: Booting over network - problem Subject: Queries on mbuf (memory buffers) Subject: logLib Subject: RE: Boot of vxworks Subject: RE: ads860 bootrom_res Subject: Re: logLib Subject: Function of itab.s ? Subject: Re: future of java Subject: System Mode Debugging Problem Subject: a question of busNo, devNo, funcNo of PCI bus. Subject: RE: logLib Subject: symbols in VxWorks image Subject: Re: loadModule and unload Subject: Re: a question of busNo, devNo, funcNo of PCI bus. Subject: Re: loadModule and unload Subject: scripts Subject: redundant declarations in Tornado2 x86-win32 headerfiles Subject: Re: CPU Utilization and Memory Usage Subject: Challenging opportunities in the Embedded world 's Subject: Re: help please Subject: Re: System Mode Debugging Problem Subject: Re: ntPassFsLib Subject: Re: VXSim prototyping Subject: Re: POSIX timers Subject: queries on pjWorks3.1 and object file compression Subject: Re: a question of busNo, devNo, funcNo of PCI bus. Subject: Verilog Traning Center (Santa Clara, CA) Subject: Re: Challenging opportunities in the Embedded world 's Subject: Re: Zinc and memory Subject: Re: System Mode Debugging Problem Subject: SNMP CMIP agents & managers Subject: Y this error while building the project - Pls. help Subject: what things to include when compiling c++ file Subject: PowerPC Mem dump analysis on Tornado1/5.3.1, Tornado2 Subject: Re: what things to include when compiling c++ file Subject: Re: Boot of vxworks with DHCP Subject: running multiple vxsims on Win2000 Subject: Using the standalone Diab C/C++ with MVME5100 Board Subject: Re: vxWorks 5.4 and GDB 5.0 Subject: Problem with animation usign Rhapsody and VxWorks Subject: HELP!!!! Subject: PowerPC 750->755 migration Subject: plug PCI card into MCP750 - how ? Subject: Re: running multiple vxsims on Win2000 Subject: trace route Subject: Re: Could not enable second serial port of MBX860 Subject: Creating DHCP Client for VxWorks Subject: Re: Y this error while building the project - Pls. help Subject: Re: System Mode Debugging Problem Subject: registering own software interrupts Subject: Queries on mbuf (memory buffers) Subject: RE: Subject: Queries on mbuf (memory buffers) Subject: big files via TCP network sending Subject: IP aliasing (running two subnets on one Ethernet NIC) Subject: ipFilter in vxWorks Subject: Re: Variation in clock_gettime() Subject: Re: Shared Memory Network Gateway Problems Subject: VxWorks and PPMC750 Subject: MPC7400 & PC/104+ & Vxworks Subject: ksleep() blocking the other parts of netTask Subject: Re: what things to include when compiling c++ file Subject: Re: big files via TCP network sending Subject: x86 boot with serial WDB and TSFS Subject: Re: Variation in clock_gettime() Subject: DHCP Vendor Specific paremeter Subject: vxDecGet() & vxDecSet() information Subject: Problem with sntpcTimeGet function Subject: VxWorks Sockets Subject: Re: Shared Memory Network Gateway Problems Subject: ttcp for vxworks? Subject: RE: Queries on mbuf (memory buffers) Subject: Enabling Second serial Port of MBX860-It's done ,Here is the Details Subject: Enabling Second serial Port of MBX860-It's done ,Here is the Details Subject: Re: Y this error while building the project - Pls. help Subject: dosFs recognization.... Subject: Re: what things to include when compiling c++ file Subject: Threads and C++ destructors Subject: Re: Threads and C++ destructors Subject: Re: Threads and C++ destructors Subject: Re: Threads and C++ destructors Subject: Re: a question of busNo, devNo, funcNo of PCI bus. Subject: Re: Threads and C++ destructors Subject: Query Related to time routines Subject: changing sysclockrate in the BSP config dialog Subject: elftobin problems? 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Subject: Re: open() on NT's VxSim Subject: Re: PMC slots on MCP750 Subject: about loadModule() Subject: Re: C++ support Subject: TrueFFS overview and experiences required Subject: windows explorer And Tornado conflict Subject: Re: PMC slots on MCP750 Subject: RE: windows explorer And Tornado conflict Subject: Re: about loadModule() Subject: Re: tcpdump in vxworks Subject: Re: tcpdump in vxworks Subject: LOAD_STRINGs for multiple NICs Subject: LOAD_STRINGs for multiple NICS again Subject: Re: LOAD_STRINGs for multiple NICS again Subject: Re: VxWorks Sockets Subject: VI Editor Subject: HTML interface to replace HTMLworks Subject: Modem control? Subject: Re: about loadModule() Subject: Re: Re: OR0 for AM29LV800B Flash ? Subject: Please include me in VxWorks mailing list! 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Subject: Use of serial port for both tgtShell & for input Subject: Re: How do I resolve: "Undefined symbol: __builtin_new" ??? Subject: VxNetStack Job/Kernel optimization Subject: Re: BSP questions- int vector and remap Subject: Re: BSP questions- int vector and remap Subject: Re: struct WindTcb's taskTick member question Subject: Re: newbie ??s on scheduling policy Subject: Re: Influencing scheduler for preferential execution of tasks Subject: Re: VxNetStack Job/Kernel optimization Subject: RE: VxNetStack Job/Kernel optimization Subject: VxMP with dual Pentium Subject: UCD/CMU ?? Subject: RE: RE: Influencing scheduler for preferential execution of tasks Subject: snmp ??? Subject: Re: Influencing scheduler for preferential execution of tasks Subject: Re: taskSpawn of member function of an object Subject: Re: loadModule and unldByModuleId Subject: Re: Porting C code for Solaris to VxWorks ------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: tffs on PPMC750 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:58:47 +0530 From: "Venkatesh JS" Organization: Motorola Message-ID: <96vpvg$hk2$1@newshost.mot.com> hi. Has any one tried including TFFS component on PPMC750 board ? I have MTD and socket layer code for AMD series NOR flash devices which holds good for flash device on PPMC750 card(Am29DL323C). This MTD uses Common Flash Interface(CFI) to program the flash. We can get device and manufacturer details from flash device by sending some command sequences on some specified address(Given in Command defination tables in AMD product literature). But my code fails to get this detail. After writing command sequences , when i try to read the result i am not able to get any valid information. My MTD code uses this logic to write command sequence: WriteCmdSequence(FLASH_BASE_ADRS,0x00aa00aa, 0x555) { adrs = FLASH_BASE_ADRS + 8 * (0x555); *adrs = 0x00aa00aa; } Here 0x00aa00aa is command sequence defined by AMD and 0x555 is address specified by AMD product guide. I have given flash base address as 0xfff00000. Does any one know how solve this problem ? regds, venkat --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: using startup script Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 07:52:38 GMT From: a.betsche@steinbichler (Andi Betsche) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 73,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Message-ID: <3a9373c5.88338754@news.ronet.de> Hello everybody, I have a 'silly' problem using the startup script under vxWorks 5.4 with a motorolla mvme2700 cpu. The cpu starts but don't executes the startup script. I initialise a local harddisk with dosFs and want to start a startup script on this harddisk. I configured the system to use a startup script by including "development tool components - target shell components - shell startup script". The system starts and says "Unable to open startup script /sd0/startme". I find out that the systems points to a directory on my Tornado - host (which I don't use during booting). If I change the directory in target shell to "/sd0" it shows that the startup script is existing. If I use a startup script located on my host this is executed, but thats not what I want to do. Hope anyone can help me. BOOTSEQUENCE on mvme2700 - -------------------------------------------------- auto-booting... boot device : scsi=0,0 unit number : 0 processor number : 0 host name : mr-bean file name : /sd0/vxworks inet on ethernet (e) : 192.4.1.4 host inet (h) : 192.168.2.57 gateway inet (g) : 192.4.1.4 user (u) : autoscan ftp password (pw) : ftp flags (f) : 0x8 target name (tn) : noname startup script (s) : /sd0/startme other (o) : dc Attaching to scsi device... done. Loading /sd0/vxworks...977084 Starting at 0x100000... Attached TCP/IP interface to dc unit 0 Attaching interface lo0...done Adding 2790 symbols for standalone. VxWorks Copyright 1984-1998 Wind River Systems, Inc. CPU: Motorola MVME2700 - MPC 750 VxWorks: 5.4 BSP version: 1.2/0 Creation date: Feb 19 2001 WDB: Ready. Unknown directory: /sd0 Unable to open startup script /sd0/startme - -> - -------------------------------------------------------------- this is on tornado host - -> ll WS_FTP.LOG ctdt.c ctdt.o cwData.cfg dataSegPad.o linkSyms.o partialImage.o prjConfig.o startme symTbl.c symTbl.o sysALib.o sysLib.o usrAppInit.o version.o vxIntDisconnect.o vxWorks value = 0 = 0x0 this shows the files on the vxworks target - -> cd "/sd0/" value = 0 = 0x0 - -> ll size date time name - -------- ------ ------ -------- 1165625 FEB-19-2001 12:17:38 VXWORKS 512 AUG-30-2000 16:29:38 SYS 512 AUG-30-2000 16:29:46 DATA 512 AUG-30-2000 16:29:52 LOG 512 AUG-30-2000 16:30:04 BATCH 512 AUG-30-2000 16:30:12 TEST 3314445 FEB-16-2001 13:21:42 AUTOSCAN.OUT 4922 NOV-28-2000 11:44:16 CLZCONT.HEX 512 DEC-19-2000 14:34:24 DIA 12204032 JAN-25-2001 17:52:16 STUFF.ZIP 6 FEB-16-2001 14:29:26 STARTUP.TXT 32 FEB-19-2001 11:59:12 STARTME value = 0 = 0x0 - -> - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- my usrAppInit() function void usrAppInit (void) { int iFd; /* filedescriptor for load file */ #ifdef USER_APPL_INIT USER_APPL_INIT; /* for backwards compatibility */ #endif /* enable scsi Auto-Config */ scsiAutoConfig(pSysScsiCtrl); /* add application specific code here */ dosFsDevInit ("/sd0/", scsiBlkDevCreate(scsiPhysDevIdGet(pSysScsiCtrl,0,0), 0, 0), NULL); cd(); cd("."); /* ? */ /* set software clock: */ getRTC(); /* install timestamp handler */ dosFsDateTimeInstall(dosFsTimestamp); } - -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! - -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Rebuild kernel for VxSIM? Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:29:34 GMT From: "YHU" Organization: AT&T Worldnet Message-ID: Hi, I try to load a library using VxSIM and got the following errors - ------------------------------------------- - -> ld < C:/libABC.so Loading C:/libABC.so / Undefined symbols: _recvmsg fstreambase::close(void) _sendto _socket _inet_ntoa _getsockname _hostGetByAddr _gethostname _sendmsg _hostGetByName _ftruncate _recvfrom _getpeername _connect _setsockopt ofstream::ios virtual table _bind _send _recv fstreambase::fstreambase(int, char const *, int, int) _accept _listen fstreambase::open(char const *, int, int) Warning: object module may not be usable because of undefined symbols. value = 20345936 = 0x1367450 - ------------------------------- I think I need to rebuild the kernel for VxSIM. But one thing I am not sure is that VxSIM is the version VxSIM Lite. Can this build including Socket interface and C++ iostreams APIs work in VxSIM Lite? Also, what are the procedures for rebuilding this kernel? Thanks in advance! Qiumin --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Gcc 2.95.3 for VxWorks-PPC Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:13:08 GMT From: "Robin Mitra" Message-ID: References: <96qfn6$nb2$1@front2.grolier.fr> Hi, Maybe I missed the beginning of this thread, Where is gcc 2.95.3 available from? Thanks, Robin "Frédéric GARFAGNI" wrote in message news:96qfn6$nb2$1@front2.grolier.fr... > Hello, > > I've tried Gcc 2.95.3 but I meet a malloc failure when comes time to convert > binary files vxWorks_rom to Motorola format, using elfHex. The problem > diseappear when I come back to the previous Gcc version delivered by > VxWorks. > > selcompiler gcc > --------------- > ... > D:\Tornado\host\x86-win32\bin\romsize PPC -b 00200000 vxWorks_rom > vxWorks_rom: 1568(t) + 1389708(d) = 1391276 (705876 unused) > D:\Tornado\host\x86-win32\bin\elfHex -v vxWorks_rom \ > > vxWorks_rom.hex > malloc failed > make: *** [vxWorks_rom] Error 0xffffffff > make: *** Deleting file `vxWorks_rom' > > selcompiler wrs > --------------- > ... > D:\Tornado\host\x86-win32\bin\romsize PPC -b 00200000 vxWorks_rom > vxWorks_rom: 1568(t) + 1392140(d) = 1393708 (703444 unused) > D:\Tornado\host\x86-win32\bin\elfHex -v vxWorks_rom \ > > vxWorks_rom.hex > > vxWorks = 1650353 bytes > vxWorks.hex = 4181170 bytes > > > Does anyone meet the same problem ? Any idea how to break it ? > > However that may be, many thanks to Dave KORN for his work and help to > VxWorks community. > > > > Frédéric GARFAGNI > TEAMLOG > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:34:18 GMT From: JayDee Organization: =^.^= Message-ID: References: <96l2fm$dnh$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com> <96l42r$pul$1@pookiehead.databasix.com> <96m002$5fp$6@moriarty.databasix.com> <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: ThatJayDee@yahoo.com On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:49:12 +1100, STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> wrote: >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka = generally >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> DaveK >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water ...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:34:20 GMT From: JayDee Organization: =^.^= Message-ID: <=ZSTOrcE18YzTTWWZ7l3dmzn896P@4ax.com> References: <96km2l$386$1@kneejerk.databasix.com> <96slrv$a1f$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96t248$lh1$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uogc$qr0$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <4pu59to7pt81405d5btmkpr97r97hkl776@4ax.com> <96vnia$rln$5@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: ThatJayDee@yahoo.com On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:40:27 +1100, STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> wrote: >> It can interfere with ones consumption of alcohol. >If not done in the correct manner I am sure it could. So I usually = don't >take that risk, pluss if I'm ever stoned I just sit there and veg out, I >can't move at all. That's not fun at all. oh, fuck the booze...it's toxic shit, anyway... just smoke decent equatorial varieties of weed I had this shit called Rutabagah (leaves looked like rutabagah leaves) that was an Afghanistani-Columbian hybrid, and forced the females to produce pollen, which produced only female seeds ...didn't have to fuck with whacking a bunch of apical meristems --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: using startup script Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:16:29 GMT From: a.betsche@steinbichler (Andi Betsche) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 73,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Message-ID: <3a93b197.104164821@news.ronet.de> Hello everybody, I have a 'silly' problem using the startup script under vxWorks 5.4 with a motorolla mvme2700 cpu. The cpu starts but don't executes the startup script. I initialise a local harddisk with dosFs and want to start a startup script on this harddisk. I configured the system to use a startup script by including "development tool components - target shell components - shell startup script". The system starts and says "Unable to open startup script /sd0/startme". I find out that the systems points to a directory on my Tornado - host (which I don't use during booting). If I change the directory in target shell to "/sd0" it shows that the startup script is existing. If I use a startup script located on my host this is executed, but thats not what I want to do. Hope anyone can help me. BOOTSEQUENCE on mvme2700 - -------------------------------------------------- auto-booting... boot device : scsi=0,0 unit number : 0 processor number : 0 host name : mr-bean file name : /sd0/vxworks inet on ethernet (e) : 192.4.1.4 host inet (h) : 192.168.2.57 gateway inet (g) : 192.4.1.4 user (u) : autoscan ftp password (pw) : ftp flags (f) : 0x8 target name (tn) : noname startup script (s) : /sd0/startme other (o) : dc Attaching to scsi device... done. Loading /sd0/vxworks...977084 Starting at 0x100000... Attached TCP/IP interface to dc unit 0 Attaching interface lo0...done Adding 2790 symbols for standalone. VxWorks Copyright 1984-1998 Wind River Systems, Inc. CPU: Motorola MVME2700 - MPC 750 VxWorks: 5.4 BSP version: 1.2/0 Creation date: Feb 19 2001 WDB: Ready. Unknown directory: /sd0 Unable to open startup script /sd0/startme - -> - -------------------------------------------------------------- this is on tornado host - -> ll WS_FTP.LOG ctdt.c ctdt.o cwData.cfg dataSegPad.o linkSyms.o partialImage.o prjConfig.o startme symTbl.c symTbl.o sysALib.o sysLib.o usrAppInit.o version.o vxIntDisconnect.o vxWorks value = 0 = 0x0 this shows the files on the vxworks target - -> cd "/sd0/" value = 0 = 0x0 - -> ll size date time name - -------- ------ ------ -------- 1165625 FEB-19-2001 12:17:38 VXWORKS 512 AUG-30-2000 16:29:38 SYS 512 AUG-30-2000 16:29:46 DATA 512 AUG-30-2000 16:29:52 LOG 512 AUG-30-2000 16:30:04 BATCH 512 AUG-30-2000 16:30:12 TEST 3314445 FEB-16-2001 13:21:42 AUTOSCAN.OUT 4922 NOV-28-2000 11:44:16 CLZCONT.HEX 512 DEC-19-2000 14:34:24 DIA 12204032 JAN-25-2001 17:52:16 STUFF.ZIP 6 FEB-16-2001 14:29:26 STARTUP.TXT 32 FEB-19-2001 11:59:12 STARTME value = 0 = 0x0 - -> - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- my usrAppInit() function void usrAppInit (void) { int iFd; /* filedescriptor for load file */ #ifdef USER_APPL_INIT USER_APPL_INIT; /* for backwards compatibility */ #endif /* enable scsi Auto-Config */ scsiAutoConfig(pSysScsiCtrl); /* add application specific code here */ dosFsDevInit ("/sd0/", scsiBlkDevCreate(scsiPhysDevIdGet(pSysScsiCtrl,0,0), 0, 0), NULL); cd(); cd("."); /* ? */ /* set software clock: */ getRTC(); /* install timestamp handler */ dosFsDateTimeInstall(dosFsTimestamp); } - -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! - -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Interrupt:dc0 no carrier error Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:20:56 GMT From: a.betsche@steinbichler.de (Andi Betsche) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 73,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Message-ID: <3a93b29d.19190384@news.ronet.de> References: <96d7qr$d2$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hello, we had the same problem on an mvme2700. This problem occurs when the target is connected to a hub, switch or network card which uses auto-sensing. Fix your opposite to 100Mbit (10Mbit) and Half-duplex (not auto mode) will solve this problem. Bye. On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:44:31 +0530, "Vijayaraghavan Rajasekaran" wrote: >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >--------------3DE79F3D5F5BCF58A013FCED >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >VxWorks/Tornado > >Hi all, > we are using Vxworks with Mcp750 Bsp. During and after boot up >continuously "Interrupt:dc0 no carrier error" is displayed . This error >appears whenever host tools or any node on the lan tries to contact >target over LAN.We even Installed "Tornado-Comp-Drv-December2000 release >v070". >After that error stops appearing , but we cud not connect TELNET/FTP >servers. >Pls suggest us the remedy , ur immediate response will be highly >appreciated . > >Thanks & Regards, >R.vijayaraghavan > > > >--------------3DE79F3D5F5BCF58A013FCED >Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; > name="vijayaraghavan.raja.vcf" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Description: Card for vijay >Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="vijayaraghavan.raja.vcf" > >begin:vcard >n:Rajasekaran;Vijayaraghavan >x-mozilla-html:TRUE >url:www.wipro.com >org:WiproTechnologies;Embedded & Internet Access Solution >version:2.1 >email;internet:vijayaraghavan.raja@wipro.com >adr;quoted-printable:;;Wipro Ltd. No. 111, Mount Road=0D=0A Guindy=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A;Chennai;TamilNadu;600032;India >fn:R.Vijayaraghavan >end:vcard > >--------------3DE79F3D5F5BCF58A013FCED-- > - -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! - -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:01:31 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <5t1r8tolopnc2vd94h317qklrvirs7f409@4ax.com> <96km2l$386$1@kneejerk.databasix.com> <96l2fm$dnh$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com> <96l42r$pul$1@pookiehead.databasix.com> <96m002$5fp$6@moriarty.databasix.com> <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> > wrote in message <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... >Dave Korn wrote: > >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. >> >> > >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> > >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. >> > >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> > >> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> DaveK > >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, you don't want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those machines they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do the job nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. > >-- >The Fucking Pigs > >Two guys, Scotch and Coke >Belches, guitars and cakewalk >The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! > >http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ > >STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:51:50 +0000 From: Simon Farnsworth Message-ID: <3A938FB6.6080503@snellwilcox.com> References: <96vgsv$h40$1@news.etri.re.kr> ÃÖâ½Ä wrote: > I've met this warning messages from Tornado 1 "xxx.c : warning: 1 > trigraph(s) encountered" > > I don't know the meaning of this warning... -_-; As it says in the GNU Toolkit manual (or the gcc info pages), trigraphs are ANSI C's horrible method for handling systems that do not have all the C special characters. Instead combinations of 3 characters are used, so %%/ might mean \ (I don't know for certain!) GCC is aware that most people don't use trigraphs, so it warns you that you have entered one. You may find that the code in xxx.c behaves slightly unexpectedly, as some of what the compiler saw does not match what you think you typed. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Gcc 2.95.3 for VxWorks-PPC Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:41:12 GMT From: "Robin Mitra" Message-ID: References: <96qfn6$nb2$1@front2.grolier.fr> Forget it, I found DaveK's website. But now I have the same problem ( malloc failed) , and no, the suggested patch didn't help. Any ideas? Robin "Robin Mitra" wrote in message news:EELk6.3277$XL.524583@dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net... > Hi, > Maybe I missed the beginning of this thread, Where is gcc 2.95.3 available > from? > > Thanks, > Robin > > "Frédéric GARFAGNI" wrote in message > news:96qfn6$nb2$1@front2.grolier.fr... > > Hello, > > > > I've tried Gcc 2.95.3 but I meet a malloc failure when comes time to > convert > > binary files vxWorks_rom to Motorola format, using elfHex. The problem > > diseappear when I come back to the previous Gcc version delivered by > > VxWorks. > > > > selcompiler gcc > > --------------- > > ... > > D:\Tornado\host\x86-win32\bin\romsize PPC -b 00200000 vxWorks_rom > > vxWorks_rom: 1568(t) + 1389708(d) = 1391276 (705876 unused) > > D:\Tornado\host\x86-win32\bin\elfHex -v vxWorks_rom \ > > > vxWorks_rom.hex > > malloc failed > > make: *** [vxWorks_rom] Error 0xffffffff > > make: *** Deleting file `vxWorks_rom' > > > > selcompiler wrs > > --------------- > > ... > > D:\Tornado\host\x86-win32\bin\romsize PPC -b 00200000 vxWorks_rom > > vxWorks_rom: 1568(t) + 1392140(d) = 1393708 (703444 unused) > > D:\Tornado\host\x86-win32\bin\elfHex -v vxWorks_rom \ > > > vxWorks_rom.hex > > > > vxWorks = 1650353 bytes > > vxWorks.hex = 4181170 bytes > > > > > > Does anyone meet the same problem ? Any idea how to break it ? > > > > However that may be, many thanks to Dave KORN for his work and help to > > VxWorks community. > > > > > > > > Frédéric GARFAGNI > > TEAMLOG > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: remote load and startup Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 07:49:13 -0800 From: David Zempel Organization: Lockheed Martin Corporation Message-ID: <3A93E379.694B0CE3@excite.com> References: <3A92B843.75E23955@excite.com> <3A933406.F31AB055@yahoo.com> I believe that you are wrong about this. We currently rlogin to our target and then use the windsh command nfsMount to mount a host file system to the target. This is then followed by a load command that loads a command file that is on that system. The essence of my original question is, "How can I get the target to accept these same commands via a a remsh or rsh command from the host?" After persuing the script further that is in my original question, I've discovered that there is no way that a redirect of standard input would work in conjunction with a rlogin command, even between two unix systems. Automatically loading a script that mounts the file system and executes a startup script at boot is out of the question due to security concerns. Otherwise, that would probably be the ideal solution. Thanks anyway. Still looking for a solution, David. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Flash memory questions Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:07:38 -0800 From: "T. Hariharan" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <970pjo$8iq$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hello, A few questions on embedded and removable flash memory. The box is x86 based. Embedded: o Looks like TrueFFS is being widely used out there. But a simpler solution would be to use an embedded chip/card that acts as an IDE. (Silicon Storage Tech's ATA-Disk is a chip product. Sandisk makes FlashDrive card which you can plug like an IDE hard drive). Then you don't need TrueFFS at all. So the question is, what are the advantages of TrueFFS? There must be something I'm missing. The VxWorks TrueFFS doc says that if you format a flash under TrueFFS, you need to leave some "fallow" area where you copy the boot image. I guess you'll copy just the boot-rom (which has the TrueFFS/dosFs code) to this fallow area and keep the VxWorks image on the TrueFFS formatted filesystem. Is this correct? Since BIOS can boot from IDE drives, it seems simpler to not use TrueFFS. I don't have anything against TrueFFS - just want to know its advantages. Removable: o The choice here appears to be straight-forward. Use a PC Card ATA. The vxworks PCMCIA doc says that socket and chip services are not supported. Does this mean that vxworks does not support hot-swapping the removable flash card? Does anyone have good/bad experiences with specific card readers? Thanks, Hari --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VxWorks & PCI Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:21:30 +0100 From: Renate Meijer Organization: Vitatron Medical B.V. Message-ID: <3A93EB0A.81A16FA9@vitatron.com> Hi, I'm developing a VxWorks driver for Unidig IP cards running on x86 hardware (and BSP). The card in question uses a PLX9080 PCI controller which delivers the address 0xE0000000 for the BAR2 register. I set up the MMU using sysMmuMapAdd which comes out ok. However, when I dum the memory at that address the dump routine takes it's time on the first few bytes (as if it times out) and delivers nothing but zero's. Some time ago, i picked up a driver from this group to use as an example. Basically I do the same except this driver adds 0xC0000000 to BAR2 with a comment stating that there is an offset between the CPU addresses and the PCI address range. When I try this in my own driver, there's no delay for a dump at 0xA0000000 (0xE0000000 + (int) 0xC0000000). Does anyone know where 0xC0000000 comes from? Is it correct? Am I missing something in the initialisation or setup? Thanx in advance... Kind regards, Renate Meijer. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Rebuild kernel for VxSIM? Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 16:47:34 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>>>> "YHU" == YHU writes: YHU> Hi, I try to load a library using VxSIM and got the following YHU> errors [snip] YHU> I think I need to rebuild the kernel for VxSIM. But one thing I YHU> am not sure is that VxSIM is the version VxSIM Lite. Can this YHU> build including Socket interface and C++ iostreams APIs work in YHU> VxSIM Lite? YHU> Also, what are the procedures for rebuilding this kernel? All of this should be in the manual. I don't use the simulator, only real hardware. However, I believe that in $(WIND_BASE)/target/project directory you should find a simpc_vx project. I am sure you can copy/clone this to some new project. Then you can edit the properties using the `vxWorks' dialog tab to include the feature you want. Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" - -- You will discover that you have two left feet. Your piglet will need to be scrubbed this month. Your programs will start starting a revolution. This month a deadly disease would be a good thing to ponder. You'll perhaps in a few months be gay. Your lucky numbers are 20, 30, and 40. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: System hangs for certain Image sizes Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:01:51 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <96vh89$dr6@news.or.intel.com> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>>>> "Anand" == Anand Rangarajan writes: Anand> Hi All, I'm running VxWorks on a MIPS. The Vxworks application Anand> image is compressed using deflate (comes with Tornado2.0) and Anand> is decompressed using inflate. The compressed image size is Anand> about 1.33 MB. The compression is about 78%. The problem is Anand> that the system boots properly only for some image Anand> sizes. Specifically, if I declare a global variable int Anand> dummyArray[10000]; the system hangs after the following error Anand> message. Do you have a cache? Is it possible that the data cache hasn't dumped out your interrupt code so that the code cache can look up the value? After the decompress you must flush the caches if you have done something abnormal, like enabling the cache so that the decompression runs faster (a very useful thing to do...). Also, it might be useful to declare some global _initialized_ data in usrConfig.c and print out its value. For example, static unsigned long dataTest = 0x12345678UL; ... buffer[32]; sprintf(buffer,"%lx",dataTest); DebugPrint("data is "); DebugPrint(buffer); DebugPrint("\n"); sprintf(buffer,"%p",&dataTest); DebugPrint("pointer is "); DebugPrint(buffer); DebugPrint("\n"); while(1); /* wait for data to print */ I have often found that the romdata, and initdata can be offset by some value. If the code doesn't print out a correct values, then the linker positioning and source are mixed up some how. Use a map file to determine how. I believe that the excVecInit() function is the first place to use this data. hth, Bill - -- Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: tffs on PPMC750 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:10:50 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <96vpvg$hk2$1@newshost.mot.com> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>>>> "Venkatesh" == Venkatesh JS writes: Venkatesh> My MTD code uses this logic to write command sequence: WriteCmdSequence(FLASH_BASE_ADRS,0x00aa00aa, 0x555) { adrs = FLASH_BASE_ADRS + 8 * (0x555); *adrs = 0x00aa00aa; } Venkatesh> Here 0x00aa00aa is command sequence defined by AMD and Venkatesh> 0x555 is address specified by AMD product guide. Be careful! The address 0x555 has to be properly setup for your hardware. What address line from the processor hooks up to which address line of the NOR flash? For instance your example multiplies by 8 (shift by 3); this implies that A0 of flash connect to A3, which is rather bizzare. I think it should be four, but I am only guessing. I suggest that you write a routine that takes a shift parameter. myIDflash(int shift) { /* unlock seq*/ *(FLASH_BASE+(0x555< Message-ID: References: On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:39:55 -0500, qwerty wrote: >Hi guys, > >I need help here. I'm trying to setup SingleStep 7.5 on HPUX to not give >me a runtime error when it encounters a twi instruction on the MPC860. >I'm using the trap exception for some stuff and everytime the debugger >gets there, it stops. It is not a code problem, since it works with my >BDM box. I just need to configure the SingleStep debugger to let my code >handle the trap. Any idea? In the help, they talk about an exception >config menu but it doesn't seem to be available on HPUX... must be a >config file... > >Help! > >Channy More info: I looked at my vector (0x700) and it seems SingleStep is putting something else in there... could it be that it's using the program exception vector to handle it's breakpoints?? Any one has confirmation on this? Can we change that to something else? Erro message : stopped by program exception(privilege violation) at "address" Channy --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: vsnprintf and stricmp Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:20:31 -0500 From: "Anisa Parikh" Organization: Verio Message-ID: Hi, We're using gnu set of libraries for vxworks. I couldn't find definitions for vsnprintf and stricmp. Would anyone know if versions of these are available or supported? Anisa --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: symbol table Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:31:14 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <3a914ccc.15023953@192.168.1.214> <8dyk6.435$yi4.421447@newsr1.u-net.net> <3a92b58c.11383515@192.168.1.214> Kim Putnam wrote in message <3a92b58c.11383515@192.168.1.214>... >My thoughts as well. Not sure how to resolve it thought. The >symFindByCName was not in my documentation either. I found it declared >in symLib.h, and a tcl script as well. Try declaring any functions that must be looked up in the symbol table as extern "C". You'll have to make do without having overloaded functions as entry points, but I'm sure you can work round that. Alternatively you could work out the name mangling by looking at the output from nm on the module containing your entry point function, and hardcode the mangled path into the call to symfindByName, but that would be going about it the hard way... DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Flash memory questions Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:54:14 GMT From: andreyk@home.com (Andray Kaganovsky) Organization: @Home Message-ID: References: <970pjo$8iq$1@overload.lbl.gov> "T. Hariharan" wrote in <970pjo$8iq$1@overload.lbl.gov>: >Hello, > >A few questions on embedded and removable flash memory. >The box is x86 based. > >Embedded: >o Looks like TrueFFS is being widely used out there. But a simpler >solution would be to use an embedded chip/card that acts as an IDE. >(Silicon Storage Tech's ATA-Disk is a chip product. Sandisk makes >FlashDrive card which you can plug like an IDE hard drive). >Then you don't need TrueFFS at all. So the question is, what are >the advantages of TrueFFS? There must be something I'm missing. > >The VxWorks TrueFFS doc says that if you format a flash under >TrueFFS, you need to leave some "fallow" area where you copy the >boot image. I guess you'll copy just the boot-rom (which has the >TrueFFS/dosFs code) to this fallow area and keep the VxWorks image >on the TrueFFS formatted filesystem. Is this correct? > >Since BIOS can boot from IDE drives, it seems simpler to >not use TrueFFS. > >I don't have anything against TrueFFS - just want to know >its advantages. > >Removable: >o The choice here appears to be straight-forward. Use a PC Card ATA. >The vxworks PCMCIA doc says that socket and chip services are not >supported. Does this mean that vxworks does not support hot-swapping >the removable flash card? > >Does anyone have good/bad experiences with specific card readers? > >Thanks, >Hari > [AndrayK]. I believe ATA flash disks should be more expensive than simple flash arrays, since they need to incorporate ATA controller into every ATA flash disk. Secondly, the board itself needs to have ATA hardware. While standard on x86, ATA support is frequently not found on non-x86 architectures. On the other hand, many of the non-x86 reference boards feature multi-megabyte flash arrays. This is where TrueFFS could be usefull - it allows user to turn the raw flash array into regular dosFs volume. regards, Andray --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: using startup script Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:57:15 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <3a93b197.104164821@news.ronet.de> Andi Betsche wrote in message <3a93b197.104164821@news.ronet.de>... >I have a 'silly' problem using the startup script under vxWorks 5.4 >with a motorolla mvme2700 cpu. The cpu starts but don't executes the >startup script. >I initialise a local harddisk with dosFs and want to start a startup >script on this harddisk. I configured the system to use a startup >script by including "development tool components - target shell >components - shell startup script". The system starts and says >"Unable to open startup script /sd0/startme". I find out that the >systems points to a directory on my Tornado - host (which I don't use >during booting). If I change the directory in target shell to "/sd0" >it shows that the startup script is existing. OK, look at the directory it claims is unknown: > Creation date: Feb 19 2001 > WDB: Ready. > >Unknown directory: /sd0 >Unable to open startup script /sd0/startme Now look at the directory you have to cd to >-> cd "/sd0/" >value = 0 = 0x0 >-> ll > size date time name >-------- ------ ------ -------- > 1165625 FEB-19-2001 12:17:38 VXWORKS > 512 AUG-30-2000 16:29:38 SYS [SNIP] Is it perhaps the case that -> cd "/sd0" -> ll might also not work ? Looking at your init code: >void usrAppInit (void) [SNIP] > /* add application specific code here */ > dosFsDevInit ("/sd0/", >scsiBlkDevCreate(scsiPhysDevIdGet(pSysScsiCtrl,0,0), 0, 0), NULL); > cd(); cd("."); /* ? */ > have you tried using dosFsDevInit ("/sd0", (no trailing slash on the device name) DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Gcc 2.95.3 for VxWorks-PPC Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:05:40 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <96qfn6$nb2$1@front2.grolier.fr> Robin Mitra wrote in message ... >Hi, >Maybe I missed the beginning of this thread, Where is gcc 2.95.3 available >from? 2.95.3 isn't officially released yet from the FSF, although it's in late beta. The source code is available at the Cygnus sourceware ftp site, at ftp://sourceware.cygnus.com/pub/gcc/releases/gcc-2.95.3-prerelease/ in the file gcc-2.95.3.test4.tar.gz (at the moment). If your target is PowerPC based, you can find a patched version at my website http://www.newgcc4vxworks4ppc.cjb.net/ which should work rather better than the FSF main sources, which haven't been kept up-to-date in the vxworks port for some time. There's also a binary install there that should work out-of-the-box on a Windows host, although I've been having some trouble with the debug information it puts out (I am beginning to think this is a binutils issue.) DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: remote load and startup Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:08:45 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <3A92B843.75E23955@excite.com> <3A933406.F31AB055@yahoo.com> <3A93E379.694B0CE3@excite.com> David Zempel wrote in message <3A93E379.694B0CE3@excite.com>... >I believe that you are wrong about this. We currently rlogin to our >target and then use the windsh command nfsMount to mount a host file >system to the target. This is then followed by a load command that loads >a command file that is on that system. >The essence of my original question is, "How can I get the target to >accept these same commands via a a remsh or rsh command from the host?" >After persuing the script further that is in my original question, I've >discovered that there is no way that a redirect of standard input would >work in conjunction with a rlogin command, even between two unix >systems. Well how about telnet then? That certainly works; it's used by the dejagnu testing framework for the gcc compiler. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: tffs on PPMC750 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:03:06 GMT From: andreyk@home.com (Andray Kaganovsky) Organization: @Home Message-ID: References: <96vpvg$hk2$1@newshost.mot.com> Bill Pringlemeir wrote in : >>>>>> "Venkatesh" == Venkatesh JS writes: > > Venkatesh> My MTD code uses this logic to write command sequence: > > WriteCmdSequence(FLASH_BASE_ADRS,0x00aa00aa, 0x555) > { > adrs = FLASH_BASE_ADRS + 8 * (0x555); > > *adrs = 0x00aa00aa; > } > > Venkatesh> Here 0x00aa00aa is command sequence defined by AMD and > Venkatesh> 0x555 is address specified by AMD product guide. > >Be careful! The address 0x555 has to be properly setup for your >hardware. What address line from the processor hooks up to which >address line of the NOR flash? For instance your example multiplies >by 8 (shift by 3); this implies that A0 of flash connect to A3, which >is rather bizzare. I think it should be four, but I am only guessing. >I suggest that you write a routine that takes a shift parameter. > >myIDflash(int shift) >{ > /* unlock seq*/ > *(FLASH_BASE+(0x555< *(FLASH_BASE+(0xaaa< *(FLASH_BASE+(0x555<} > >You can use the shell display command (d FLASH_BASE) to see if the >ID sequence ran properly. > >hth, >Bill Pringlemeir. [AndrayK]. I also suggest that you verified that all the pointers above are defined as 'volatile', to prevent compiler from optimizing away the first statement. It looks like you are using interleave 4. If this is correct, why do you specify your commands like 0x00aa00aa etc. ? Shouldn't it be 0xaaaaaaaa etc. ? regards, Andray --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: vsnprintf and stricmp Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:11:41 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: Anisa Parikh wrote in message ... >Hi, > >We're using gnu set of libraries for vxworks. I couldn't find >definitions for vsnprintf and stricmp. Would anyone know >if versions of these are available or supported? If you want to be absolutely sure, use 'nm' from binutils to dump the labels from the libraries, and grep for it. The answer is probaly "no" if they don't show up, there's no reason why they should be hidden in any tricky way. In particular, vsnprintf was only introduced by the C99 standard, which wasn't released until after the last Gnu relase. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.arch.embedded,comp.os.psos,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: SingleStep and the 860 trap exception Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:59:23 -0500 From: Channy Message-ID: References: On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:34:24 -0500, Channy wrote: >On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:39:55 -0500, qwerty > wrote: > >>Hi guys, >> >>I need help here. I'm trying to setup SingleStep 7.5 on HPUX to not give >>me a runtime error when it encounters a twi instruction on the MPC860. >>I'm using the trap exception for some stuff and everytime the debugger >>gets there, it stops. It is not a code problem, since it works with my >>BDM box. I just need to configure the SingleStep debugger to let my code >>handle the trap. Any idea? In the help, they talk about an exception >>config menu but it doesn't seem to be available on HPUX... must be a >>config file... >> >>Help! >> >>Channy > >More info: > >I looked at my vector (0x700) and it seems SingleStep is putting >something else in there... could it be that it's using the program >exception vector to handle it's breakpoints?? Any one has confirmation >on this? Can we change that to something else? >Erro message : stopped by program exception(privilege violation) at >"address" > >Channy It is SingleStep for pROBE+ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: time() depends on sysClkRate? Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:52:35 -0600 From: Andrew Johnson Organization: APS, Argonne National Laboratory Message-ID: <3A940E73.26584472@aps.anl.gov> References: <3A92FCA4.B043BDDE@mail.com> Kees van der Bent wrote: > > On my PEP Computers CP603 Pentium board running > VxWorks 5.4 the duration of seconds returned by the > VxWorks time() library function depends on the sysClkRate. > > So, after I do sysClkRateSet(100) (the default was 60), > seconds as measured by time() suddenly take 60/100 of > a real seconds. Is this a problem in my BSP or does this > have anything to do with implementation of time on a > PC board? Please let me know if there is something I > can do about this (or should I use other time routines > maybe). Pete Kockritz replied: > > Sounds like your BSP didn't fully implement sysClkRateSet. It should > adjust the period of the system tick to match the value you pass in. > That is, if you pass in 100, it should set the system tick to 10 msec. > Or, if it can't do this it should return ERROR. Actually I think his BSP is correctly changing the tick rate, but the time() function isn't taking account of the change. Have a look at the vxWorks reference manual for clock_setres(), which states "This routine should be called to inform the POSIX timers of the new clock resolution if sysClkRateSet() has been called after this library has been initialized". It looks like you have to call that as well. - - Andrew - -- Every great idea appears crazy to start with. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: RE: Flash memory questions Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:12:11 -0800 From: Charles Johnson Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <971458$fp7$1@overload.lbl.gov> Our experience with TFFS vs ATA flash is that ATA flash has some distinct disadvantages: 1. No wear leveling. 2. Unable to survive powerfail. Often we end up with a read error on a sector which can only be fixed if you re-write the sector. We're using the Silicon Tech ATA drives and it is very easy to damage the drive. - --Charles Johnson Oresis Communications, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: vxwexplo@lbl.gov [mailto:vxwexplo@lbl.gov] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:12 AM To: vxworks_users@csg.lbl.gov Subject: Flash memory questions Submitted-by vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Wed Feb 21 08:08:34 2001 Submitted-by: "T. Hariharan" Hello, A few questions on embedded and removable flash memory. The box is x86 based. Embedded: o Looks like TrueFFS is being widely used out there. But a simpler solution would be to use an embedded chip/card that acts as an IDE. (Silicon Storage Tech's ATA-Disk is a chip product. Sandisk makes FlashDrive card which you can plug like an IDE hard drive). Then you don't need TrueFFS at all. So the question is, what are the advantages of TrueFFS? There must be something I'm missing. The VxWorks TrueFFS doc says that if you format a flash under TrueFFS, you need to leave some "fallow" area where you copy the boot image. I guess you'll copy just the boot-rom (which has the TrueFFS/dosFs code) to this fallow area and keep the VxWorks image on the TrueFFS formatted filesystem. Is this correct? Since BIOS can boot from IDE drives, it seems simpler to not use TrueFFS. I don't have anything against TrueFFS - just want to know its advantages. Removable: o The choice here appears to be straight-forward. Use a PC Card ATA. The vxworks PCMCIA doc says that socket and chip services are not supported. Does this mean that vxworks does not support hot-swapping the removable flash card? Does anyone have good/bad experiences with specific card readers? Thanks, Hari ********** This is a user group mailing list for vxWorks related topics see http://csg.lbl.gov/vxworks for posting and other info --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: problem when loading vxWorks image Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:23:30 -0500 From: "Jason Jiang" Organization: Verio Message-ID: <_AUk6.18466$Sl.797153@iad-read.news.verio.net> I specified a vxWorks image in the boot line and booted the processor up. Then I opened Hyper Terminal (serial port) and want to load the same vxWorks image from the host into the SDRAM. I tried both 'ld' and 'loadModule' and got the same response: it prompted one or several characters like 'm', 'ma', or 'mach' and stoped. no more prompts. The image was about 1.2M big (I could load a file which was much bigger than it). What's the matter? Please help!!! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: large downloadable image Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:30:42 -0500 From: "Anisa Parikh" Organization: Verio Message-ID: Hi folks, I'm running into problems with downloading a large image from Tornado to the target. The target is MPC 860. Has anyone run into a similar problem? The image is about 47 meg. In the target server, I've modified the memory cache size to be large enough. The wdb agent on the target gives an exception and gets restarted. Anisa --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Better Allocator than memLib?? Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:42:52 GMT From: Craig Vanderborgh Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <3A941A3C.1459A93F@voxware.com> Hi all: We are using memLib (specifically calloc, malloc, et al.) in our application and we're having severe problems with memory fragmentation. Our application no longer has any memory leaks. We're "fragmenting to death" though... Our application does speech recognition, synthesis, and a number of other things that rely on a competent dynamic memory manager, which memLib apparently is not. Is there a better alternative for a memory allocator that we're not aware of? We're thinking about writing our own, but we don't want to "reinvent the wheel" if we don't have to. Any comments, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Craig Vanderborgh Voxware Incorporated --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: taskDelay problem Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:47:19 -0500 From: Diego Warszawski Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <9717lo$hnl$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi, I am using Tornado 2.0 - VxWorks 5.4 I am trying to debug a problem we have in our SW. We are running several tasks. We have interrupts, tasks changing their priorities, and timers. One of the tasks is very simple: void MyTask(int,char**) { while(1) { DoMyStaff(); taskDelay( DELAY_1_SEC); // 100 ticks } } This stack is getting stuck in the taskDelay call. The target shell goes on running. The task trace shows: 485230 _taskDelay +122: idleLoop([b860a8,b86270,b84bf0,468cf4,64,b860a8]) The task state is READY all the time instead of changing to DELAY. This blocks all the tasks with lower priority. I checked the assembly code and at taskDelay+122 there is a call to windExit(). What could have happened to cause this problem? Any pointers? Thanks for your help! Diego W. --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:20:52 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <0l889ts97snuhm2g6blquaqp1c7d14kqos@4ax.com> References: <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96slm3$5j2$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <96t22a$lh1$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoal$qr0$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <6nu59to1omj583nudug86egn9dk8rrnnnu@4ax.com> <96vng7$rln$4@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:39:20 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:47:17 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:21:05 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:49:51 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:40:41 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >[snip] >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid cause >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>they are sober. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>He could have a point. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get >> >> >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't >> >> >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. >> >> >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, >> >> >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while >> >> >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every >> >> >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you >> >> >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> And clearly you have though of them all. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Not all of them, just most. I have got to leave myself something to do >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. >> >> >> > >> >> >> What you planning on doing after 20 years? >> >> > >> >> >Ops, I meant to say after the next 20 odd years. >> >> >Well, medically, my body will only be able to keep on drinking >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. So I'm going to have something to >> >> >do after those 20 odd years are up... >> >> > >> >> You could just save up for a liver transplant. >> > >> >Shit. Fuck. >> >Do you realise how much time you just save me >> >with those 9 words? >> > >> One of the benefits of age and experience. > >Shit, well I owe you. The first shout is on me. >Though you better print this off and bring it with you for proof as >I will forget and deny most vigioursly that I said it. :) > > Nah, I don't care bout teh shouts!! I will just say "liver" over and over til you buy me a drink!!! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:23:40 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <9p889tg9s15p15dnq85o12jjrq3co9mlc8@4ax.com> References: <96km2l$386$1@kneejerk.databasix.com> <96slrv$a1f$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96t248$lh1$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uogc$qr0$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <4pu59to7pt81405d5btmkpr97r97hkl776@4ax.com> <96vnia$rln$5@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:40:27 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:50:21 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:22:13 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:52:54 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >No. We are funny. The only problem being that most people >> >> >> >> >are too >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >stupid to get out jokes. It's them that need to drink more. >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> I never thought of it that way, but yes, it *is* their fault!! >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid >> >> >> >> >cause >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>they are sober. >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>He could have a point. >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Preferably no longer than it takes to open the next bottle.... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Or hip-flask, if you chance to be at work. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Or in your slurpie if you are in a dry area.... >> >> >> >The cops don't have a clue. :) >> >> >> > >> >> >> The old vodka in the fruit salad trick. :) >> >> > >> >> >That works too, I got so shit face at my brothers 21st with that one. >> >> >Oh and the second hand smoke had a part to play. >> >> > >> >> I find when doing both it's best to do the pot first. >> > >> >I don't really smoke pot myself, but if someone is doing it near me, >> >I wont complain too much..... >> > >> It can interfere with ones consumption of alcohol. > >If not done in the correct manner I am sure it could. So I usually don't >take that risk, pluss if I'm ever stoned I just sit there and veg out, I >can't move at all. That's not fun at all. > I know what you mean!! I too just veg out!! and can't drink enough, that ca't be right, huh? - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: using startup script Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 20:42:10 -0000 From: "David Laight" Organization: BT Internet Message-ID: <9718up$t0j$1@uranium.btinternet.com> References: <3a93b197.104164821@news.ronet.de> Look in usrNetInit - in target/src/config/usrNetwork.c There is a call to ioDefPathSet( devName ) - this is one of vxWorks synonyms for cd. It has they effect of making all files opens check the network (assumed boot) device first - a REAL pain if your network isn't up, or you didn't really boot from it. David Andi Betsche wrote in message news:3a93b197.104164821@news.ronet.de... > Hello everybody, > > I have a 'silly' problem using the startup script under vxWorks 5.4 > with a motorolla mvme2700 cpu. The cpu starts but don't executes the > startup script. > I initialise a local harddisk with dosFs and want to start a startup > script on this harddisk. I configured the system to use a startup > script by including "development tool components - target shell > components - shell startup script". The system starts and says > "Unable to open startup script /sd0/startme". I find out that the > systems points to a directory on my Tornado - host (which I don't use > during booting). If I change the directory in target shell to "/sd0" > it shows that the startup script is existing. > If I use a startup script located on my host this is executed, but > thats not what I want to do. > --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:43:13 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <96l42r$pul$1@pookiehead.databasix.com> <96m002$5fp$6@moriarty.databasix.com> <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:34:18 GMT, the Troll JayDee Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:49:12 +1100, STFGP <"goose_fp"@ >pacific.net.au> wrote: > > >>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally >>> keeps me pissed through the night... > >>> DaveK > >>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set >>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol >vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good > >best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol > >then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous >magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water > >...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya > SUBSCRIBE!!!!! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:44:37 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <96slrv$a1f$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96t248$lh1$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uogc$qr0$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <4pu59to7pt81405d5btmkpr97r97hkl776@4ax.com> <96vnia$rln$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <=ZSTOrcE18YzTTWWZ7l3dmzn896P@4ax.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:34:20 GMT, the Troll JayDee Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:40:27 +1100, STFGP <"goose_fp"@ >pacific.net.au> wrote: > > >>> It can interfere with ones consumption of alcohol. > >>If not done in the correct manner I am sure it could. So I usually don't >>take that risk, pluss if I'm ever stoned I just sit there and veg out, I >>can't move at all. That's not fun at all. > >oh, fuck the booze...it's toxic shit, anyway... > >just smoke decent equatorial varieties of weed > >I had this shit called Rutabagah (leaves looked like rutabagah >leaves) that was an Afghanistani-Columbian hybrid, and forced >the females to produce pollen, which produced only female seeds > >...didn't have to fuck with whacking a bunch of apical meristems Just reading this is getting me off! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 20:51:56 -0000 From: "David Laight" Organization: BT Internet Message-ID: <9719h2$iso$1@neptunium.btinternet.com> References: <96vgsv$h40$1@news.etri.re.kr> RTFM! In this case ANSI C - try K&R 2. Trigraphs are horrid beasts invented by the ANSI C committe way back in the mid 1980s in order to make C source readable on terminals/printers with non-US/UK 7-bit character sets. In particular those where [ ] ^ \ { } ` etc are accented characters rather than punctuation. Any sequence ??x (in C source) is replaced by a single other character. I don't know the mappings, but suspect: ??( is [ ??/ is \ there are about a dozen of them. You probably have ??? in a string somewhere... (you can subvert things by concatenating strings - "abc" "def" is identical to "abcdef") Trigraphs are thus valid C - but almost certainly not what you had in mind. David ÃÖâ½Ä wrote in message news:96vgsv$h40$1@news.etri.re.kr... > Hi, everyone. > > I've met this warning messages from Tornado 1 "xxx.c : warning: 1 > trigraph(s) encountered" > > I don't know the meaning of this warning... -_-; > > please, let me know the meaning and solution.. > > thanks for reading and have a nice day... > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:57:16 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <9719op$ios$1@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96km2l$386$1@kneejerk.databasix.com> <96slrv$a1f$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96t248$lh1$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uogc$qr0$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <4pu59to7pt81405d5btmkpr97r97hkl776@4ax.com> <96vnia$rln$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9p889tg9s15p15dnq85o12jjrq3co9m Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:40:27 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:50:21 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:22:13 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:52:54 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >No. We are funny. The only problem being that most people > >> >> >> >> >are too > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >stupid to get out jokes. It's them that need to drink more. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> I never thought of it that way, but yes, it *is* their fault!! > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid > >> >> >> >> >cause > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>they are sober. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>He could have a point. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( > >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>>Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Preferably no longer than it takes to open the next bottle.... > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Or hip-flask, if you chance to be at work. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Or in your slurpie if you are in a dry area.... > >> >> >> >The cops don't have a clue. :) > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> The old vodka in the fruit salad trick. :) > >> >> > > >> >> >That works too, I got so shit face at my brothers 21st with that one. > >> >> >Oh and the second hand smoke had a part to play. > >> >> > > >> >> I find when doing both it's best to do the pot first. > >> > > >> >I don't really smoke pot myself, but if someone is doing it near me, > >> >I wont complain too much..... > >> > > >> It can interfere with ones consumption of alcohol. > > > >If not done in the correct manner I am sure it could. So I usually don't > >take that risk, pluss if I'm ever stoned I just sit there and veg out, I > >can't move at all. That's not fun at all. > > > I know what you mean!! I too just veg out!! and can't drink enough, > that ca't be right, huh? Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:30 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <5t1r8tolopnc2vd94h317qklrvirs7f409@4ax.com> <96km2l$386$1@kneejerk.databasix.com> <96l2fm$dnh$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com> <96l42r$pul$1@pookiehead.databasix.com> <96m002$5fp$6@moriarty.databasix.com> <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >Dave Korn wrote: > > > >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. > >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. > >> >> > > >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get > >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you > don't > >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. > >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours > after, > >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed > while > >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> > > >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. > >> > > >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every > >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you > >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> > > >> > >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka > generally > >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> > >> DaveK > > > >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set > >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > > Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, you don't > want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those machines > they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do the job > nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. > > DaveK Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > -- > They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at > Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. > > > >-- > >The Fucking Pigs > > > >Two guys, Scotch and Coke > >Belches, guitars and cakewalk > >The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! > > > >http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ > > > >STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 > > > > - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:58:06 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <9719qb$ios$2@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96l42r$pul$1@pookiehead.databasix.com> <96m002$5fp$6@moriarty.databasix.com> <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:34:18 > GMT, the Troll JayDee Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:49:12 +1100, STFGP <"goose_fp"@ > >pacific.net.au> wrote: > > > > > >>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally > >>> keeps me pissed through the night... > > > >>> DaveK > > > >>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set > >>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > > > >you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol > >vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good > > > >best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol > > > >then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous > >magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water > > > >...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya > > > SUBSCRIBE!!!!! Um... The posibilities. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:01:22 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <971a0f$lp0$2@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96slm3$5j2$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <96t22a$lh1$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoal$qr0$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <6nu59to1omj583nudug86egn9dk8rrnnnu@4ax.com> <96vng7$rln$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <0l889ts97snuhm2g6blquaqp1c7d14kqos@ Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:39:20 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:47:17 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:21:05 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:49:51 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:40:41 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >[snip] > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid cause > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>they are sober. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>He could have a point. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get > >> >> >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't > >> >> >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, > >> >> >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while > >> >> >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every > >> >> >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you > >> >> >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> And clearly you have though of them all. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Not all of them, just most. I have got to leave myself something to do > >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> What you planning on doing after 20 years? > >> >> > > >> >> >Ops, I meant to say after the next 20 odd years. > >> >> >Well, medically, my body will only be able to keep on drinking > >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. So I'm going to have something to > >> >> >do after those 20 odd years are up... > >> >> > > >> >> You could just save up for a liver transplant. > >> > > >> >Shit. Fuck. > >> >Do you realise how much time you just save me > >> >with those 9 words? > >> > > >> One of the benefits of age and experience. > > > >Shit, well I owe you. The first shout is on me. > >Though you better print this off and bring it with you for proof as > >I will forget and deny most vigioursly that I said it. :) > > > > > Nah, I don't care bout teh shouts!! I will just say "liver" over and > over til you buy me a drink!!! That could work, depending on how much I already had already had to drink, not enough and you would get your drink. To much and I would YELL "FUCK OFF" over and over until you bought me 3 rounds. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: taskDelay problem Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:40:23 GMT From: Craig Vanderborgh Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <3A9435C7.83FE69D7@voxware.com> References: <9717lo$hnl$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi Diego: You should check your thread stack size and ensure yourself that you have created your tasks with enough stack for what you are trying to do. Things get pretty weird (non-causal) when you exceed your thread stack allocation. I had similar problems just 2 weeks ago until I realized what was wrong. Good Luck! craig vanderborgh voxware incorporated Diego Warszawski wrote: > > Hi, > I am using Tornado 2.0 - VxWorks 5.4 > I am trying to debug a problem we have in our SW. > We are running several tasks. We have interrupts, tasks changing > their priorities, and timers. One of the tasks is very simple: > > void MyTask(int,char**) > { > while(1) > { > DoMyStaff(); > taskDelay( DELAY_1_SEC); // 100 ticks > } > } > > This stack is getting stuck in the taskDelay call. The target shell > goes on running. The task trace shows: > > 485230 _taskDelay +122: idleLoop([b860a8,b86270,b84bf0,468cf4,64,b860a8]) > > The task state is READY all the time instead of changing to DELAY. > This blocks all the tasks with lower priority. I checked the assembly code > and at taskDelay+122 there is a call to windExit(). > What could have happened to cause this problem? Any pointers? > Thanks for your help! > > Diego W. > --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:24:53 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96slm3$5j2$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <96t22a$lh1$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoal$qr0$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <6nu59to1omj583nudug86egn9dk8rrnnnu@4ax.com> <96vng7$rln$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <0l889ts97snuhm2g6blquaqp1c7d14kqos@4ax.com> <971a0f$lp0$2@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:01:22 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:39:20 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:47:17 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:21:05 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:49:51 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:40:41 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >[snip] >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid cause >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>they are sober. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>He could have a point. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get >> >> >> >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while >> >> >> >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every >> >> >> >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you >> >> >> >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> And clearly you have though of them all. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Not all of them, just most. I have got to leave myself something to do >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> What you planning on doing after 20 years? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Ops, I meant to say after the next 20 odd years. >> >> >> >Well, medically, my body will only be able to keep on drinking >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. So I'm going to have something to >> >> >> >do after those 20 odd years are up... >> >> >> > >> >> >> You could just save up for a liver transplant. >> >> > >> >> >Shit. Fuck. >> >> >Do you realise how much time you just save me >> >> >with those 9 words? >> >> > >> >> One of the benefits of age and experience. >> > >> >Shit, well I owe you. The first shout is on me. >> >Though you better print this off and bring it with you for proof as >> >I will forget and deny most vigioursly that I said it. :) >> > >> > >> Nah, I don't care bout teh shouts!! I will just say "liver" over and >> over til you buy me a drink!!! > >That could work, depending on how much I already had already >had to drink, not enough and you would get your drink. To much >and I would YELL "FUCK OFF" over and over until you bought >me 3 rounds. > That would work, I am sensitive and I will buy drinks for someone yelling "FUCK OFF" until they stop! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:26:26 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <96l42r$pul$1@pookiehead.databasix.com> <96m002$5fp$6@moriarty.databasix.com> <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:30 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Dave Korn wrote: > >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... >> >Dave Korn wrote: >> > >> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you >> don't >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours >> after, >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed >> while >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. >> >> > >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> > >> >> >> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka >> generally >> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> DaveK >> > >> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set >> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, you don't >> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those machines >> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do the job >> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >> >> DaveK > >Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we talking about? - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:26:54 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <96m002$5fp$6@moriarty.databasix.com> <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719qb$ios$2@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:58:06 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:34:18 >> GMT, the Troll JayDee Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:49:12 +1100, STFGP <"goose_fp"@ >> >pacific.net.au> wrote: >> > >> > >> >>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally >> >>> keeps me pissed through the night... >> > >> >>> DaveK >> > >> >>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set >> >>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> > >> >you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol >> >vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good >> > >> >best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol >> > >> >then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous >> >magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water >> > >> >...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya >> > >> SUBSCRIBE!!!!! > >Um... The posibilities. > It is a worry, isn't it? - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:27:50 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <96slrv$a1f$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96t248$lh1$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uogc$qr0$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <4pu59to7pt81405d5btmkpr97r97hkl776@4ax.com> <96vnia$rln$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9p889tg9s15p15dnq85o12jjrq3co9mlc8@4ax.com> <9719op$ios$1@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:57:16 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:40:27 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:50:21 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:22:13 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:52:54 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >No. We are funny. The only problem being that most people >> >> >> >> >> >are too >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >stupid to get out jokes. It's them that need to drink more. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> I never thought of it that way, but yes, it *is* their fault!! >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid >> >> >> >> >> >cause >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>they are sober. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>He could have a point. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Preferably no longer than it takes to open the next bottle.... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Or hip-flask, if you chance to be at work. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Or in your slurpie if you are in a dry area.... >> >> >> >> >The cops don't have a clue. :) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> The old vodka in the fruit salad trick. :) >> >> >> > >> >> >> >That works too, I got so shit face at my brothers 21st with that one. >> >> >> >Oh and the second hand smoke had a part to play. >> >> >> > >> >> >> I find when doing both it's best to do the pot first. >> >> > >> >> >I don't really smoke pot myself, but if someone is doing it near me, >> >> >I wont complain too much..... >> >> > >> >> It can interfere with ones consumption of alcohol. >> > >> >If not done in the correct manner I am sure it could. So I usually don't >> >take that risk, pluss if I'm ever stoned I just sit there and veg out, I >> >can't move at all. That's not fun at all. >> > >> I know what you mean!! I too just veg out!! and can't drink enough, >> that ca't be right, huh? > >Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall asleep. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: STDIN problem on target Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:26:50 -0800 From: "Gang Wang" Organization: None Message-ID: References: <96u8o9$15j$1@overload.lbl.gov> Ken: Thanks for your message. I guess I did not explain it very clearly. I want to have it run just as an interactive program in xterm or dos window. Within a xterm, even if the program tries to read from the stdin, you still gets what you typed echoed right back as you are typing, WITHOUT waiting for the . I did try config stdin with icntl(...). The best I could get back is that I could turn the echo. It does not show any difference with the OPT_LINE set or unset. On the other hand, when I run the code in the debugger and use the serial console, everything works as I hoped. Thanks anyway. Gang Wang Baron, Ken wrote in message <96u8o9$15j$1@overload.lbl.gov>... > > [Baron, Ken] I ran it just like you did. I used the simulator and >built your code as a downloadable project for SIMNTgnu. > Note that because the ttyDrv is set for terminal mode, fgets will >not return until a is typed in the windsh for case 1 and in the VxWorks >Simulator window for case 2. The ttyDrv can be set for different modes. See >the documentation. > >> Ken: >> >> Thanks for your response. >> How do you run it, exactly? >> I tried the following two ways: >> 1) In winsh windows, type testStdIO: >> I could not get character echo back when I am typing. >> 2) In winsh, run "sp(testStdIO)" >> nothing happens. >> >> What's wrong with my setting? >> >> Thanks in advance. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: (beginer) Problem "catching" a cPCI interrupt Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:21:26 -0600 From: "S Johnson" Organization: Newshosting.com Message-ID: <3a945d87@news.inxpress.net> References: <3a8a4aab@news.bezeqint.net> The interrupts are disabled. Look for "SRC8" in config.h and change the level to anything except 0. "David Ganor" wrote in message news:3a8a4aab@news.bezeqint.net... > Hello, > > Some backgroug info, first: > 1. VxWorks 5.4 > 2. Target: Motorola with CPU PPC750 > 3. BSP version: 1.2/0 > 4. Tornado II > > I have a system board with a cPCI interface, on which a PLX9054 chip is the > PCI bridge (the board has a local bus...). > I have configured the CPU_PCI_MEM_SIZE to be 32MBytes and the board uses > about 10MBytes. > I have wrote an ISR to be activated when the board, througth the PLX chip, > drives an interrupt. There are no problems configuring the PLX and the > interrupt > line is "active". > When running the code the ISR isn't activated, thought the intConnect() > returns > with OK. I used intConnecte() like that: > lvl = PCI_cfg->DEV_INT_LINE; > ... > if (intConnect (INUM_TO_IVEC (lvl), (VOIDFUNCPTR) ISR, (int) this) != > OK) > { > printf("[PLX] ERROR - Failed to connect interrupt to ISR!\n"); > } > Could anyone sujest an insight? What am I doing wrong? > Maybe the PLX9054 isn't configured right? -> What are the main configuration > regarding > the described problem? > > Thanks in advance. > David Ganor > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: vxworks memory management Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:23:25 +0800 From: "news.cn99.com" Organization: Bentium Ltd. Message-ID: <971pkv$qsd$1@mail.cn99.com> Does anyone can tell me the vxworks memory management? I searched WinRiver Web Site, but can't find it. What is special for realtime and embedded environment? Thanks, --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: large downloadable image Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:23:04 -0500 From: "Serge Sarraillon" Message-ID: References: you should use 'objcopy' to strip your file... (in my case my application file went down from 15 Meg to 2 Meg) "Anisa Parikh" wrote in message news:LGUk6.18470$Sl.797118@iad-read.news.verio.net... > Hi folks, > > I'm running into problems with downloading a large image > from Tornado to the target. The target is MPC 860. Has > anyone run into a similar problem? The image is about > 47 meg. In the target server, I've modified the memory > cache size to be large enough. The wdb agent on the > target gives an exception and gets restarted. > > Anisa > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: remote load and startup Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 04:41:26 GMT From: Pierre Frigon Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <3A9498A0.175DBAA9@yahoo.com> References: <3A92B843.75E23955@excite.com> <3A933406.F31AB055@yahoo.com> <3A93E379.694B0CE3@excite.com> If you rlogin to the target you are using a target based shell to run your rlogin session on thge target. Not the host shell that the Tornado IDE provides. These are two different things. David Zempel wrote: > I believe that you are wrong about this. We currently rlogin to our > target and then use the windsh command nfsMount to mount a host file > system to the target. This is then followed by a load command that loads > a command file that is on that system. > The essence of my original question is, "How can I get the target to > accept these same commands via a a remsh or rsh command from the host?" > After persuing the script further that is in my original question, I've > discovered that there is no way that a redirect of standard input would > work in conjunction with a rlogin command, even between two unix > systems. > > Automatically loading a script that mounts the file system and executes > a startup script at boot is out of the question due to security > concerns. Otherwise, that would probably be the ideal solution. Thanks > anyway. > > Still looking for a solution, David. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: DWDM Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:30:50 -0800 From: "Charles Weitzer" Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <972bnf$flh$2@slb0.atl.mindspring.net> I have an opportunity with a pre-IPO company in San Jose that provides intelligent multiservice optical networks. The management team has previously started and sold two companies to Cisco. The Company offers significant stock options, a full insurance package, 401K and more. The team's product is an all-in-one terabit optical transport, switching and service intelligence system. Simplified dynamic provisioning of multi-protocol services economic scalability from SONET/SDH to wavelength switching is all part of this architecture. Solutions can be deployed in a multitude of topologies, collapsing overlay networks onto a single integrated optical platform. 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Sincerely, Charles Weitzer weitzer@ix.netcom.com V(510)558-9182 F(509)694-5175 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: File I/O through Serial Link on RAD6000 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:16:51 GMT From: "Corey Ashford" Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: References: <96ho3h$928$1@pith.uoregon.edu> If you can get PPP going, you could NFS mount the filesystems onto the target, or use the ftp/rsh filesystems. "Anthony A. Salazar" wrote in message news:96ho3h$928$1@pith.uoregon.edu... > VxWorks Tornado > > > Hi folks, > > > My current configuration is a RAD6000 booting VxWorks 5.3.1 (RAD6000 BSP) > over a serial line (ttya) from a Sun. I use Tornado V1.0.1 to communicate > with VxWorks on a Boeing RAD6000. I belive Tornado uses Wind Rivers WDB > protocol to communicate with the host via Virtual I/O Channels. > > > Is there a way to access files on the host(sun) from the target (RAD6000) > over the serial line? Are the WTX host tools a possible avenue > or are they just for use on the host side (sun)? > > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > Thanks, > Anthony Salazar > > > > > More Details: > > > At login we redirect Stdin, Stdout and Stderr > via a windsh.tcl script: > > > shParse {ioGlobalStdSet (0,vf0)} ; > shParse {ioGlobalStdSet (1,vf0)} ; > shParse {ioGlobalStdSet (2,vf0)} ; > shParse {logFdAdd (vf0)} ; > > > > When I issue devs and iosDrvShow I get: > -> devs > drv name > 0 /null > 3 /vio > value = 0 = 0x0 > > > -> iosDrvShow > drv create delete open close read write > ioctl > 1 7f160 0 7f160 0 7fc40 7fb30 7f168 > 2 0 0 6f014 0 6f080 6f0fc 6f240 > 3 8a0ac 0 8a0ac 8a228 7fc40 7fb30 8a2bc > value = 0 = 0x0 > - > > > I can do things like: > > > #include "vxWorks.h" > #include > > > int CFErun(void) > { > while(1) > { > fgets(data,256,stdin); > if(data[0] == 'q') > return 1; > else > printf("I get something\n"); > } > } > > > but if I try to do file I/O instead I never get a valid file descriptor: > > > if ((Fd=fopen("test2","r")) != NULL) > printf("Fd = %d\n",Fd); > else > printf(" Couldn't open file !\n"); > > > numread=fread(&dummy,sizeof(unsigned long),1,Fd); > printf("Numread = %d dummy = %#010x\n",numread,dummy); > > > mystatus=fclose(Fd); > printf("Close status = %d\n",mystatus); > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > ** > Anthony A. Salazar NIS-3 \ DAPS \ CIBOLA > Los Alamos National Laboratory Telephone: (505) > 667-2508 > Nonproliferation International Security (NIS) Fax: (505) 665-4197 > P.O. Box 1663, MS:D440 > E-Mail:aasalazar@lanl.gov > Los Alamos, NM 87545 > **************************************************************************** > ** > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: T2 man pages??? Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:27:00 GMT From: "Corey Ashford" Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <8b3l6.456515$U46.13556324@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com> References: <96h9ta$kks$1@overload.lbl.gov> <3A8D3C72.FBF1BECF@lmco.com> <3A8D866F.E07AFAF2@lmco.com> With all due respect, you guys ought to consider taking a leap into the late 90's ;-) What Tornado 2 needs is not Unix style man pages, but a good search engine for their HTML pages. Something like altavista's advanced search engine would be nice. Something where you could search for things like "boot NEAR rom NEAR (image OR file)". "Joe Durusau" wrote in message news:3A8D866F.E07AFAF2@lmco.com... > I suppose that there are several parts to the answer. > > 1). We normally do development from remote systems via a telnet > interface, and use the gui only when it gives us something useful, > (which is not often). > > 2). If you type man -k you may get as many as 20 or 30 hits, > and I can't imagine a browser popping up that many pages at once. > > 3). Running a gui interface slows down every computer I have ever used > by at least tenfold. I don't like that. > > 4). I too, an burdened with windoz (nt 4.0, it happesn). But for more > sophisticated operations, I prefer unix or dos command line operations. > > Anyhow, I sincerely hope somebody develops a script to gen up man > pages so those of us who wish to do so can dump the html junk. > > Speaking only for myself, > > Joe Durusau > > > Dave Korn wrote: > > > > Joe Durusau wrote in message <3A8D3C72.FBF1BECF@lmco.com>... > > > True, I've kept the old pages as well, but I assume that there might > > >be some differences in T2 that are worthwhile. In that case, I have to > > >write something to gen up new man pages or somehow get around the > > >problem. > > >I wondered why so many strange questions about functions were seen in > > >this ng > > >until I realized that the man pages had been stupidly deleted. > > > > Windows users (like me) have a very handy searchable interface that > > indexes every function in the reference manual HTML and opens up a browser > > at the relevant page. Is there really nothing equivalent on Solaris (or > > whatever non-windows) systems? Or is it that people aren't running the > > necessary X or whatever windowing gui might be needed? > > > > DaveK > > -- > > They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at > > Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Better Allocator than memLib?? Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:45:30 GMT From: "Corey Ashford" Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: References: <3A941A3C.1459A93F@voxware.com> There was a similar question asked recently. Here was the response: Kevin Cline wrote: > This must be a FAQ, but I'm looking > for a drop-in replacement for the pessimal > malloc supplied by WRS. Any suggestions? Has anyone > tried GNU malloc or a variation thereof? > Any other options? Seaweed Systems has a written-from-scratch memLib replacement. It has all the functionality which Wind River's memLib has...and more! It has better fragmentation behavior, memory leak detection, sanity checks at malloc/realloc/free time, user-callable memory arena sanity checker, constant-time allocation, callbacks for various low-memory conditions, and more! A real ginzu knife of an app. Please call or email for information: bob@seaweed.com +1 425.895-1721 "Craig Vanderborgh" wrote in message news:3A941A3C.1459A93F@voxware.com... > Hi all: > > We are using memLib (specifically calloc, malloc, et al.) in our > application and we're having severe problems with memory fragmentation. > Our application no longer has any memory leaks. We're > "fragmenting to death" though... > > Our application does speech recognition, synthesis, and a number > of other things that rely on a competent dynamic memory manager, > which memLib apparently is not. Is there a better alternative > for a memory allocator that we're not aware of? We're thinking > about writing our own, but we don't want to "reinvent the wheel" > if we don't have to. > > Any comments, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks! > Craig Vanderborgh > Voxware Incorporated --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Interrupt:dc0 no carrier error Date: 22 Feb 2001 09:40:41 GMT From: Juergen Naumann Organization: Uni Dortmund, Physik Message-ID: <972mqp$1pn$1@nx6.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE> References: <96d7qr$d2$1@overload.lbl.gov> <3A8D3945.C15BA2B6@space.at> Reply-To: naumann@Physik.Uni-Dortmund.DE Hi ols wrote: > My advise would be: try hanging the target on another (brand/kind) > hub/repeater/host or whatever you directly connect the target to. We are also using MVME2400-Boards and observed the same problem. Since we would like to run the network with 100MB/Full Duplex we had to find a solution. After installing the patch T2CP3 and downloading a newly built VxWorks the problem dissapeared. We were able to run the board with a point to point connection ("crossed cable") to the server machine without an error message. Best regards, - -- Jürgen Naumann e----------------------------->H1<---------------------------p --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: using startup script Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:18:15 GMT From: a.betsche@steinbichler.de (Andi Betsche) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 73,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Message-ID: <3a94e603.10145188@news.ronet.de> References: <3a93b197.104164821@news.ronet.de> Hello Dave, thanks for your advice. The problem was that I configured my SCSI-Disk in usrAppInit() which is called AFTER the startup script is executed. If I configure the Disk in sysScsiConfig() it works fine. - -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! - -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: PPC 821/823 with passive LCD display Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:13:58 +0100 From: Emmanuel Herbreteau Organization: SEPRO Robotique (BEP) Message-ID: <3A94E666.443A0D2C@sepro-robotique.com> Hi, I'm working on VxWorks 5.4 with Zinc 6 on a custom board based on MPC 823 (very similar to 821, with some little enhancement and mods). The passive color LCD display (8 bits data interface) connected to port D is not working correctly. I get FIFO underrun from the LCD controller. Althought, despite I set the pixel clock to 10,6 Mhz (32 Mhz divide by 3), I only get a pixel clock of 7 Mhz and refresh rate of 56 Hz (instead of 89). It seems that the SDMA does not correctly filled the LCD FIFO. (too slow)(SDCR=0x01). All I get is a sad picture with vertical (unwanted !) colored row and a low contrast (but the test picture is still recognizable). Any idea ???? Thanks a lot. - -- Emmanuel (SEPRO Robotique, France) --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: using startup script Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:20:54 GMT From: a.betsche@steinbichler.de (Andi Betsche) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 73,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Message-ID: <3a94e7c4.10594934@news.ronet.de> References: <3a93b197.104164821@news.ronet.de> <9718up$t0j$1@uranium.btinternet.com> Hello David, thanks for your advice, but the file usrNetwork.c is not used in my configuration. The problem was that I configured my SCSI-Disk in usrAppInit() which is called AFTER the startup script is executed. If I configure the Disk in sysScsiConfig() it works fine. Bye. - -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! - -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: taskDelay problem Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:23:16 GMT From: a.betsche@steinbichler.de (Andi Betsche) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 73,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Message-ID: <3a94e83d.10715858@news.ronet.de> References: <9717lo$hnl$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hello Diego, maybe taskDelay() returns with an ERROR code and your task continues? See manual entry for taskDelay(). Bye. - -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! - -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:31 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <96l42r$pul$1@pookiehead.databasix.com> <96m002$5fp$6@moriarty.databasix.com> <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> Optional Identity wrote in message ... >According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:30 >+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >alt.usenet.kooks : > >>Dave Korn wrote: >> >>> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >>> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... >>> >Dave Korn wrote: >>> > >>> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >>> >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... >>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. >>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get >>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you >>> don't >>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. >>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours >>> after, >>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed >>> while >>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. >>> >> > >>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every >>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you >>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka >>> generally >>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >>> >> >>> >> DaveK >>> > >>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set >>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >>> >>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, you don't >>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those machines >>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do the job >>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >>> >>> DaveK >> >>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >talking about? I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I could see were the whites... DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:18:41 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <96slrv$a1f$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96t248$lh1$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uogc$qr0$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <4pu59to7pt81405d5btmkpr97r97hkl776@4ax.com> <96vnia$rln$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9p889tg9s15p15dnq85o12jjrq3co9mlc8@4ax.com> <9719op$ios$1@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:57:16 >+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >alt.usenet.kooks : > >>Optional Identity wrote: >> >>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:40:27 >>> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>> alt.usenet.kooks : >>> >>> >Optional Identity wrote: >>> > >>> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:50:21 >>> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>> >> >>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:22:13 >>> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:52:54 >>> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >No. We are funny. The only problem being that most people >>> >> >> >> >> >are too >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >stupid to get out jokes. It's them that need to drink more. >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> I never thought of it that way, but yes, it *is* their fault!! >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid >>> >> >> >> >> >cause >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>they are sober. >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > DaveK >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>He could have a point. >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( DaveK >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >That's nice to know >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's not cool either! >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>Only for a short time, though. >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > Preferably no longer than it takes to open the next bottle.... >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> Or hip-flask, if you chance to be at work. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >Or in your slurpie if you are in a dry area.... >>> >> >> >> >The cops don't have a clue. :) >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> The old vodka in the fruit salad trick. :) >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >That works too, I got so shit face at my brothers 21st with that one. >>> >> >> >Oh and the second hand smoke had a part to play. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> I find when doing both it's best to do the pot first. >>> >> > >>> >> >I don't really smoke pot myself, but if someone is doing it near me, >>> >> >I wont complain too much..... >>> >> > >>> >> It can interfere with ones consumption of alcohol. >>> > >>> >If not done in the correct manner I am sure it could. So I usually don't >>> >take that risk, pluss if I'm ever stoned I just sit there and veg out, I >>> >can't move at all. That's not fun at all. >>> > >>> I know what you mean!! I too just veg out!! and can't drink enough, >>> that ca't be right, huh? >> >>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >asleep. It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. >-- > >Optional Identity > >Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! >Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, >Hace you had your little death today? >N'est ce pas? >http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) >Skepticult Rank: Colonel >Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 >I am a lamer! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:20:58 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <96vgsv$h40$1@news.etri.re.kr> <9719h2$iso$1@neptunium.btinternet.com> David Laight wrote in message <9719h2$iso$1@neptunium.btinternet.com>... >RTFM! > >In this case ANSI C - try K&R 2. > >Trigraphs are horrid beasts invented by the ANSI C committe way back in the >mid 1980s in order to make C source readable on terminals/printers with >non-US/UK 7-bit character sets. In particular those where [ ] ^ \ { } ` etc >are accented characters rather than punctuation. > >Any sequence ??x (in C source) is replaced by a single other character. >I don't know the mappings, but suspect: > ??( is [ > ??/ is \ >there are about a dozen of them. > >You probably have ??? in a string somewhere... >(you can subvert things by concatenating strings - "abc" "def" is identical >to "abcdef") > >Trigraphs are thus valid C - but almost certainly not what you had in mind. I'm pretty sure that Gcc *ignores* them by default, and the warning is to let you know that if by any remote chance you *did* want a trigraph, you have to use the -trigraphs switch to enable them. So there's no need to concatenate strings to avoid them, unless portability to very old compilers is an issue for you! You could probably add -Wno-trigraphs to your build flags. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: problem when loading vxWorks image Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:26:40 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <_AUk6.18466$Sl.797153@iad-read.news.verio.net> Jason Jiang wrote in message <_AUk6.18466$Sl.797153@iad-read.news.verio.net>... >I specified a vxWorks image in the boot line and booted the processor up. >Then I opened Hyper Terminal (serial port) and want to load the same vxWorks >image from the host into the SDRAM. I tried both 'ld' and 'loadModule' and >got the same response: it prompted one or several characters like 'm', 'ma', >or 'mach' and stoped. no more prompts. The image was about 1.2M big (I could >load a file which was much bigger than it). What's the matter? Please >help!!! Sounds like it's crashed. You didn't mention the architecture but if you're running on PPc then that's the first few letters of "machine check exception" it's probably printing out there. This isn't very surprising if you tried to load your boot image as a downloadable module. It either won't work, or it will download itself on top of the running OS, or interfere with it in some other way. Why on earth do you even want to do such a strange thing? DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: large downloadable image Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:28:55 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: Serge Sarraillon wrote in message ... >"Anisa Parikh" wrote in message >news:LGUk6.18470$Sl.797118@iad-read.news.verio.net... >> >> I'm running into problems with downloading a large image >> from Tornado to the target. The target is MPC 860. Has >> anyone run into a similar problem? The image is about >> 47 meg. In the target server, I've modified the memory >> cache size to be large enough. The wdb agent on the >> target gives an exception and gets restarted. > >you should use 'objcopy' to strip your file... >(in my case my application file went down from 15 Meg to 2 Meg) Unless you want the debugger to be of any use. I'd say try giving the target server a *much* bigger cache than the image size - anywhere between 50% - 100% extra again - and see if that fixes the problem. I've found it necessary with my huge project, and I had the same symptom. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: symbol table Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:35:26 GMT From: kimp@avtecinc.com (Kim Putnam) Organization: Info Avenue Internet Services Message-ID: <3a952348.7517453@192.168.1.214> References: <3a914ccc.15023953@192.168.1.214> <8dyk6.435$yi4.421447@newsr1.u-net.net> <3a92b58c.11383515@192.168.1.214> I forgot about nm. The symbol name was _symbol in nm output. I used symFindByName, and what do you know It was successful. I will try declaring the funcs with extern "c" to see if this makes a differnce as well. Thanks for the help.. K On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:31:14 -0000, "Dave Korn" wrote: >Kim Putnam wrote in message <3a92b58c.11383515@192.168.1.214>... >>My thoughts as well. Not sure how to resolve it thought. The >>symFindByCName was not in my documentation either. I found it declared >>in symLib.h, and a tcl script as well. > > Try declaring any functions that must be looked up in the symbol table as >extern "C". You'll have to make do without having overloaded functions as >entry points, but I'm sure you can work round that. > > Alternatively you could work out the name mangling by looking at the >output from nm on the module containing your entry point function, and >hardcode the mangled path into the call to symfindByName, but that would be >going about it the hard way... > > DaveK >-- >They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at >Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: problem when loading vxWorks image Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:14:39 -0500 From: "Jason Jiang" Organization: Verio Message-ID: References: <_AUk6.18466$Sl.797153@iad-read.news.verio.net> The reason I wanted to do this is: When we get a blank board, we use Vision Click to burn the boot program into the boot flash. After that, we will deliver the board to the customers. While the customers don't have Vision Click and it's possible for us to update the boot program, we have to do it by ourselves. Furtunetaly, I solved this problem. I didn't use 'ld' function. I opened the boot program on the host by fopen(), fread() into the memory, then burn it into the boot flash. That's all. It's working fine. Thanks for the concerns. "Dave Korn" wrote in message news:eH7l6.518$yi4.488059@newsr1.u-net.net... > Jason Jiang wrote in message > <_AUk6.18466$Sl.797153@iad-read.news.verio.net>... > >I specified a vxWorks image in the boot line and booted the processor up. > >Then I opened Hyper Terminal (serial port) and want to load the same > vxWorks > >image from the host into the SDRAM. I tried both 'ld' and 'loadModule' and > >got the same response: it prompted one or several characters like 'm', > 'ma', > >or 'mach' and stoped. no more prompts. The image was about 1.2M big (I > could > >load a file which was much bigger than it). What's the matter? Please > >help!!! > > Sounds like it's crashed. You didn't mention the architecture but if > you're running on PPc then that's the first few letters of "machine check > exception" it's probably printing out there. > > This isn't very surprising if you tried to load your boot image as a > downloadable module. It either won't work, or it will download itself on > top of the running OS, or interfere with it in some other way. > > Why on earth do you even want to do such a strange thing? > > DaveK > -- > They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at > Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Debugging with MMU Enabled Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:25:10 -0000 From: "Kelvin Lawson" Message-ID: <973b0g$ng5gc$1@ID-56276.news.dfncis.de> Is it possible to have basic MMU enabled while debugging with visionCLICK/ICE PowerPC JTAG debuggers ? We can step through usrInit() and some of usrRoot(), however the debugger hangs during usrMmuInit(). Specifically the last call it makes is to vmBaseGlobalMapInit(). After this call the PC becomes 0x00000000, and if you step it goes back to 0xFFFFFFFC. It is actually possible to set a hardware breakpoint much further into the code, and the code does reach the breakpoint, however as soon as BKM mode kicks in you become unable to step any further. We're using a PPC755 on the Scout board. We can debug if we turn MMU off, or we can use the T2 debugger, but we'd like to find a way to use vCLICK with MMU enabled. Any ideas much appreciated. Cheers, Kelvin. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: DNS source code Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:15:30 -0500 From: "Alexandre Gouraud" Organization: Nortel Message-ID: <973dv4$a1h$1@bmerhc5e.ca.nortel.com> I am looking for C source code for a Domain Name Server runing on VxWorks. Does anyone have a link or something ? Thanks --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Debugging with MMU Enabled Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:21:19 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <973b0g$ng5gc$1@ID-56276.news.dfncis.de> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>>>> "Kelvin" == Kelvin Lawson writes: Kelvin> Is it possible to have basic MMU enabled while debugging with Kelvin> visionCLICK/ICE PowerPC JTAG debuggers ? Yes... JTAG/BDM, etc are cores on the chip. They know about caches and such things. Emulators would give you a problem, but they have gone the way of the dinosaur... Kelvin> We can step through usrInit() and some of usrRoot(), however Kelvin> the debugger hangs during usrMmuInit(). Specifically the last Kelvin> call it makes is to vmBaseGlobalMapInit(). After this call Kelvin> the PC becomes 0x00000000, and if you step it goes back to Kelvin> 0xFFFFFFFC. The reason this happens is that when the MMU in enabled, the code uses the processor pipeline as temporary memory to store some code. The address space will change under your feet as the current code changes to the MMU version. Typical MMU switching involve. Enable MMU nop nop Jump to new code (this is in the pipeline)... Usually debuggers that single step do not emulate this behaviour. I have seen this used in copy protection schemes to try and prevent people from stepping through the code... This is some thing that a 16 year old can understand ;-) Kelvin> It is actually possible to set a hardware breakpoint much Kelvin> further into the code, and the code does reach the Kelvin> breakpoint, however as soon as BKM mode kicks in you become Kelvin> unable to step any further. We're using a PPC755 on the Scout Kelvin> board. Kelvin> We can debug if we turn MMU off, or we can use the T2 Kelvin> debugger, but we'd like to find a way to use vCLICK with MMU Kelvin> enabled. Any ideas much appreciated. Can you use the T2 debugger with the MMU enabled? It is not clear from what you have said. I can only speculate without this information. hth, Bill - -- ALFRED JARRY! Say something about th' DEATH of DISCO!! Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Debugging with MMU Enabled Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:40:22 -0800 From: Christopher A Leddy Organization: Raytheon Company Message-ID: <3A955D16.7D8A001B@west.raytheon.com> References: <973b0g$ng5gc$1@ID-56276.news.dfncis.de> I worked on debugging a BSP on a PPC603, so this may or may not apply. My guess is your code or hardware is triggering an exception before you effectively have exception code to handle it. The PPC603 has two exception vector locations, one in high memory and one in low memory. The high memory version is usually in FLASH/ROM/Etc and is used only until the low memory version (in RAM) is initialized. Boot code has to set up code in the low vectors then switch a bit in the MSR register (IP) use the low vector locations. The debuggers usually highjack these RAM vectors for use while single stepping, breakpoints, etc. When you are debugging ROM code, before the vectors are switched, the processor uses the high vectors and is stuck with whatever code is there (usually a 'do nothing' routine or garbage). This severely limits your ability to deal with exceptions properly until the exception vectors are spun down into low memory. When an exception occurs when the vectors are high, you usually spin off into never, never land. Setting breakpoints in this initial code suck also, you are usually limited to the one hardware breakpoint, since the "emulator" has to be able to replace a valid instruction with a software break. And don't get me started about how the "emulator" needs all the SDRAM parameters set just to run code (its related to the nonsense above). Hope it helps, Chris Kelvin Lawson wrote: > > Is it possible to have basic MMU enabled while debugging with > visionCLICK/ICE PowerPC JTAG debuggers ? > > We can step through usrInit() and some of usrRoot(), however the debugger > hangs during usrMmuInit(). Specifically the last call it makes is to > vmBaseGlobalMapInit(). After this call the PC becomes 0x00000000, and if you > step it goes back to 0xFFFFFFFC. > > It is actually possible to set a hardware breakpoint much further into the > code, and the code does reach the breakpoint, however as soon as BKM mode > kicks in you become unable to step any further. We're using a PPC755 on the > Scout board. > > We can debug if we turn MMU off, or we can use the T2 debugger, but we'd > like to find a way to use vCLICK with MMU enabled. Any ideas much > appreciated. > > Cheers, > Kelvin. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Unix to Win platform Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:15 -0800 From: "Tan, Tat Kin" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <973oh8$hoh$1@overload.lbl.gov> Greetings all, Previously we developed some Apps and compiled the image under a project, say Proj1. It's all done in Unix environment (makefile). Now what i want to do is, to use T2 Win base instead of Unix. Basically to port the entire collections of source files into T2 Win, maintaining the original directory structure. I understand that in Windows based Tornado2.0, there is a facility that allow you to add projects to workspace (under File) but that will require ".pwj" file to describe the structure. In Unix, there is no such thing. My problem is, instead of rebuilding the entire project, how can i port Proj1 to Win T2? And so that when building the image, it works exactly the same as Unix make. Any taker? Million thanks in advance. Rgds, tatkin --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VxWorks developers needed in Central NJ Date: 22 Feb 2001 20:37:01 GMT From: maddog4911@aol.com (Maddog4911) Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20010222153701.05742.00005001@ng-md1.aol.com> Senior VxWorks developers are needed for permanent positions in Central New Jersey. If interested please call Rick Maddock toll-free at 866-233-5115. Thank you. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Unix to Win platform Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:42:17 GMT From: rjdejoie@kmrmail.kmr.ll.mit.edu (Bob DeJoie) Message-ID: <3a9577fc.254627795@news> References: <973oh8$hoh$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi, I come from a Unix back ground and created custom makefiles under T1. I found that the version of Gnu make that comes with Tornado was not able to do recursive make calls so instead used the version that comes with bash. When we went to T2 nothing much changed. I am building from a bash window and not from inside the IDE. On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:15 -0800, "Tan, Tat Kin" wrote: >Greetings all, > >Previously we developed some Apps and compiled the image under a project, >say Proj1. It's all done in Unix environment (makefile). Now what i want to >do is, to use T2 Win base instead of Unix. Basically to port the entire >collections of source files into T2 Win, maintaining the original directory >structure. I understand that in Windows based Tornado2.0, there is a >facility that allow you to add projects to workspace (under File) but that >will require ".pwj" file to describe the structure. In Unix, there is no >such thing. > >My problem is, instead of rebuilding the entire project, how can i port >Proj1 to Win T2? And so that when building the image, it works exactly the >same as Unix make. Any taker? Million thanks in advance. > >Rgds, >tatkin > ================================================ Bob DeJoie Kwajalein Missile Range Republic of the Marshall Islands email: rjdejoie@kmrmail.kmr.ll.mit.edu     phone: 805-355-5855 fax: 805-355-3833 Time Zone: GMT +12 hours                      ================================================ --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:53:35 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <96m002$5fp$6@moriarty.databasix.com> <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:31 - -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:30 >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>alt.usenet.kooks : >> >>>Dave Korn wrote: >>> >>>> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >>>> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... >>>> >Dave Korn wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >>>> >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually >get >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you >>>> don't >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you >stop. >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours >>>> after, >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed >>>> while >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up >anyway. >>>> >> > >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that >every >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka >>>> generally >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >>>> >> >>>> >> DaveK >>>> > >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, you >don't >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those >machines >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do the >job >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >>>> >>>> DaveK >>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >>talking about? > > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I could see >were the whites... > > DaveK Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:55:48 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <96slrv$a1f$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96t248$lh1$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uogc$qr0$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <4pu59to7pt81405d5btmkpr97r97hkl776@4ax.com> <96vnia$rln$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9p889tg9s15p15dnq85o12jjrq3co9mlc8@4ax.com> <9719op$ios$1@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:18:41 - -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:57:16 >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>alt.usenet.kooks : >> >>>Optional Identity wrote: >>> >>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:40:27 >>>> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>>> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>>> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>> >>>> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 >08:50:21 >>>> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>>> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>>> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>> >> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 >17:22:13 >>>> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated >this >>>> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >of >>>> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 >13:52:54 >>>> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> >Expectorated this >>>> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the >aethyr of >>>> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >No. We are funny. The only problem being >that most people >>>> >> >> >> >> >are too >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >stupid to get out jokes. It's them that >need to drink more. >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> I never thought of it that way, but yes, it >*is* their fault!! >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. >They are stupid >>>> >> >> >> >> >cause >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>they are sober. >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > DaveK >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are >stupid? >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>He could have a point. >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( DaveK >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >That's nice to know >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's not cool either! >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>Only for a short time, though. >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > Preferably no longer than it takes to open the next >bottle.... >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> Or hip-flask, if you chance to be at work. >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >Or in your slurpie if you are in a dry area.... >>>> >> >> >> >The cops don't have a clue. :) >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> The old vodka in the fruit salad trick. :) >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >That works too, I got so shit face at my brothers 21st with that >one. >>>> >> >> >Oh and the second hand smoke had a part to play. >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> I find when doing both it's best to do the pot first. >>>> >> > >>>> >> >I don't really smoke pot myself, but if someone is doing it near me, >>>> >> >I wont complain too much..... >>>> >> > >>>> >> It can interfere with ones consumption of alcohol. >>>> > >>>> >If not done in the correct manner I am sure it could. So I usually >don't >>>> >take that risk, pluss if I'm ever stoned I just sit there and veg out, >I >>>> >can't move at all. That's not fun at all. >>>> > >>>> I know what you mean!! I too just veg out!! and can't drink enough, >>>> that ca't be right, huh? >>> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >>> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >>asleep. > > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > > DaveK It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: PPC 821/823 with passive LCD display Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:07:20 -0800 From: Robert Blumberg Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3A958D98.590B324B@fake.com> References: <3A94E666.443A0D2C@sepro-robotique.com> Carefully check over the info in sections 18.3.1, 18.3.6 and 16.5.1 of the MPC823 manual. Enhancing the priority of the DMA could help. Rob't - -- Robert Blumberg Pintle & Gudgeon Robert dot Blumberg at PictureIQ dot Com Embedded System Software Development Emmanuel Herbreteau wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm working on VxWorks 5.4 with Zinc 6 on a custom > board based on MPC 823 (very similar to 821, with > some little enhancement and mods). > > The passive color LCD display (8 bits data interface) > connected to port D is not working correctly. I get > FIFO underrun from the LCD controller. Althought, > despite I set the pixel clock to 10,6 Mhz (32 Mhz > divide by 3), I only get a pixel clock of 7 Mhz > and refresh rate of 56 Hz (instead of 89). > > It seems that the SDMA does not correctly filled the LCD FIFO. > (too slow)(SDCR=0x01). > > All I get is a sad picture with vertical (unwanted !) colored row > and a low contrast (but the test picture is still recognizable). > > Any idea ???? > > Thanks a lot. > -- > Emmanuel > (SEPRO Robotique, France) --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: problem on using objcopyppc Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:26:25 -0500 From: "Jason Jiang" Organization: Verio Message-ID: I wanted to burn the vxWorks image into the boot flash. I could not use 'ld' command, while the vxWorks images was running. So I used fopen(), fread() to read the image into my local memory, then used flash driver to burn it into the boot flash. But it cannot bring up the processor, because when booting up, the system will begin executing from the beginning of the boot flash, which contains the header of the image, instead of the executable code (text segment). Because of this, I tried to use "objcopyppc" command to strip the image and get text segment only. But I didn't know how to use this command. The only help I got was as below. Who can help please? D:\work>objcopyppc --help Usage: objcopyppc [-vVSgxX] [-I bfdname] [-O bfdname] [-F bfdname] [-b byte] [-R section] [-i interleave] [--interleave=interleave] [--byte=byte] [--input-target=bfdname] [--output-target=bfdname] [--target=bfdname] [--strip-all] [--strip-debug] [--strip-unneeded] [--discard-all] [--discard-locals] [--debugging] [--remove-section=section] [--gap-fill=val] [--pad-to=address] [--set-start=val] [--adjust-start=incr] [--adjust-vma=incr] [--adjust-section-vma=section{=,+,-}val] [--adjust-warnings] [--no-adjust-warnings] [--set-section-flags=section=flags] [--add-section=sectionname=filename] [--keep-symbol symbol] [-K symbol] [--strip-symbol symbol] [-N symbol] [--remove-leading-char] [--verbose] [--version] [--help] in-file [out-file] objcopyppc: supported targets: elf32-powerpc aixcoff-rs6000 elf32-powerpcle pei- powerpcle pei-powerpc pe-powerpcle pe-powerpc srec symbolsrec tekhex binary ihex --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:42:01 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <974eqj$esl$5@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96slrv$a1f$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96t248$lh1$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uogc$qr0$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <4pu59to7pt81405d5btmkpr97r97hkl776@4ax.com> <96vnia$rln$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9p889tg9s15p15dnq85o12jjrq3co9mlc8@4ax.com> <9719op$ios$1@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:18:41 > -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated > this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > of alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote in message ... > >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:57:16 > >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >>alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >>>Optional Identity wrote: > >>> > >>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:40:27 > >>>> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >>>> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >>>> alt.usenet.kooks : > >>>> > >>>> >Optional Identity wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 > >08:50:21 > >>>> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >>>> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >>>> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >>>> >> > >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 > >17:22:13 > >>>> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated > >this > >>>> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > >of > >>>> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 > >13:52:54 > >>>> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > >Expectorated this > >>>> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the > >aethyr of > >>>> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >No. We are funny. The only problem being > >that most people > >>>> >> >> >> >> >are too > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >stupid to get out jokes. It's them that > >need to drink more. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> I never thought of it that way, but yes, it > >*is* their fault!! > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. > >They are stupid > >>>> >> >> >> >> >cause > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>they are sober. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > DaveK > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are > >stupid? > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>He could have a point. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( DaveK > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >That's nice to know > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's not cool either! > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>Only for a short time, though. > >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > Preferably no longer than it takes to open the next > >bottle.... > >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> Or hip-flask, if you chance to be at work. > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >Or in your slurpie if you are in a dry area.... > >>>> >> >> >> >The cops don't have a clue. :) > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> The old vodka in the fruit salad trick. :) > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >That works too, I got so shit face at my brothers 21st with that > >one. > >>>> >> >> >Oh and the second hand smoke had a part to play. > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> I find when doing both it's best to do the pot first. > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> >I don't really smoke pot myself, but if someone is doing it near me, > >>>> >> >I wont complain too much..... > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> It can interfere with ones consumption of alcohol. > >>>> > > >>>> >If not done in the correct manner I am sure it could. So I usually > >don't > >>>> >take that risk, pluss if I'm ever stoned I just sit there and veg out, > >I > >>>> >can't move at all. That's not fun at all. > >>>> > > >>>> I know what you mean!! I too just veg out!! and can't drink enough, > >>>> that ca't be right, huh? > >>> > >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >>> > >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >>asleep. > > > > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > > > > DaveK > > It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just keep drinking. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:42:48 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <974es3$esl$6@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96m002$5fp$6@moriarty.databasix.com> <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719qb$ios$2@intimidator.databasix.com> Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:58:06 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:34:18 > >> GMT, the Troll JayDee Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:49:12 +1100, STFGP <"goose_fp"@ > >> >pacific.net.au> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> >>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally > >> >>> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> > > >> >>> DaveK > >> > > >> >>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set > >> >>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> > > >> >you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol > >> >vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good > >> > > >> >best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol > >> > > >> >then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous > >> >magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water > >> > > >> >...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya > >> > > >> SUBSCRIBE!!!!! > > > >Um... The posibilities. > > > It is a worry, isn't it? Yes, but it would be interesting to try... > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:44:00 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96m002$5fp$6@moriarty.databasix.com> <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:31 > -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated > this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > of alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote in message ... > >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:30 > >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >>alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >>>Dave Korn wrote: > >>> > >>>> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >>>> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >>>> >Dave Korn wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >>>> >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually > >get > >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you > >>>> don't > >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you > >stop. > >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours > >>>> after, > >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed > >>>> while > >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up > >anyway. > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that > >every > >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you > >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka > >>>> generally > >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >>>> >> > >>>> >> DaveK > >>>> > > >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set > >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >>>> > >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, you > >don't > >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those > >machines > >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do the > >job > >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. > >>>> > >>>> DaveK > >>> > >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >>> > >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> > >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >>talking about? > > > > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I could see > >were the whites... > > > > DaveK > > Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:46:03 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <974f2k$esl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96slm3$5j2$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <96t22a$lh1$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoal$qr0$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <6nu59to1omj583nudug86egn9dk8rrnnnu@4ax.com> <96vng7$rln$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <0l889ts97snuhm2g6blquaqp1c7d14kqos@4ax.com> <971a0f$lp0$2@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:01:22 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:39:20 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:47:17 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:21:05 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:49:51 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:40:41 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >[snip] > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid cause > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>they are sober. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>He could have a point. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while > >> >> >> >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every > >> >> >> >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you > >> >> >> >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> And clearly you have though of them all. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Not all of them, just most. I have got to leave myself something to do > >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> What you planning on doing after 20 years? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Ops, I meant to say after the next 20 odd years. > >> >> >> >Well, medically, my body will only be able to keep on drinking > >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. So I'm going to have something to > >> >> >> >do after those 20 odd years are up... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> You could just save up for a liver transplant. > >> >> > > >> >> >Shit. Fuck. > >> >> >Do you realise how much time you just save me > >> >> >with those 9 words? > >> >> > > >> >> One of the benefits of age and experience. > >> > > >> >Shit, well I owe you. The first shout is on me. > >> >Though you better print this off and bring it with you for proof as > >> >I will forget and deny most vigioursly that I said it. :) > >> > > >> > > >> Nah, I don't care bout teh shouts!! I will just say "liver" over and > >> over til you buy me a drink!!! > > > >That could work, depending on how much I already had already > >had to drink, not enough and you would get your drink. To much > >and I would YELL "FUCK OFF" over and over until you bought > >me 3 rounds. > > > That would work, I am sensitive and I will buy drinks for someone > yelling "FUCK OFF" until they stop! That is very interesting. Though I wouldn't take advantage, after a bit of yelling my throat would get dry. And then I would have to concentrate on the drinking. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: large downloadable image Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:43:52 GMT From: "Eugene Zlobin" Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Message-ID: References: In case of SimNt helps -m 0 for target server. Eugene. "Anisa Parikh" wrote in message news:LGUk6.18470$Sl.797118@iad-read.news.verio.net... > Hi folks, > > I'm running into problems with downloading a large image > from Tornado to the target. The target is MPC 860. Has > anyone run into a similar problem? The image is about > 47 meg. In the target server, I've modified the memory > cache size to be large enough. The wdb agent on the > target gives an exception and gets restarted. > > Anisa > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 02:51:39 GMT From: "À̽½" Organization: Dacom Message-ID: <%ekl6.145$kd4.3424@news2.bora.net> Dear all. I'm a biginner on VxWorks. On the project, my job, I use "taskSuspend" to suspend a task for some time as below. FOREVER { if ( iAmActive ) do something; else taskSuspend (myTaskId); } While, if the "some time" would be "very long time", then what will be happened on the system ? I did not test the "taskSuspend" function for "long time" yet. Any dear konw? Thanks a lot. iiseull --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:27:24 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <96slm3$5j2$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <96t22a$lh1$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoal$qr0$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <6nu59to1omj583nudug86egn9dk8rrnnnu@4ax.com> <96vng7$rln$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <0l889ts97snuhm2g6blquaqp1c7d14kqos@4ax.com> <971a0f$lp0$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974f2k$esl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:46:03 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:01:22 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:39:20 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:47:17 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:21:05 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:49:51 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:40:41 >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >[snip] >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid cause >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>they are sober. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>He could have a point. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every >> >> >> >> >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> And clearly you have though of them all. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Not all of them, just most. I have got to leave myself something to do >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> What you planning on doing after 20 years? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Ops, I meant to say after the next 20 odd years. >> >> >> >> >Well, medically, my body will only be able to keep on drinking >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. So I'm going to have something to >> >> >> >> >do after those 20 odd years are up... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> You could just save up for a liver transplant. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Shit. Fuck. >> >> >> >Do you realise how much time you just save me >> >> >> >with those 9 words? >> >> >> > >> >> >> One of the benefits of age and experience. >> >> > >> >> >Shit, well I owe you. The first shout is on me. >> >> >Though you better print this off and bring it with you for proof as >> >> >I will forget and deny most vigioursly that I said it. :) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Nah, I don't care bout teh shouts!! I will just say "liver" over and >> >> over til you buy me a drink!!! >> > >> >That could work, depending on how much I already had already >> >had to drink, not enough and you would get your drink. To much >> >and I would YELL "FUCK OFF" over and over until you bought >> >me 3 rounds. >> > >> That would work, I am sensitive and I will buy drinks for someone >> yelling "FUCK OFF" until they stop! > >That is very interesting. Though I wouldn't take advantage, after a >bit of yelling my throat would get dry. And then I would have to >concentrate on the drinking. > I figure that is teh best way to end teh argument. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:27:52 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:44:00 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:31 >> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated >> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >> of alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:30 >> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >>alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >>>Dave Korn wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> >>>> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... >> >>>> >Dave Korn wrote: >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> >>>> >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... >> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. >> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually >> >get >> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you >> >>>> don't >> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you >> >stop. >> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours >> >>>> after, >> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed >> >>>> while >> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up >> >anyway. >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that >> >every >> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you >> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka >> >>>> generally >> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> DaveK >> >>>> > >> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set >> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >>>> >> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, you >> >don't >> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those >> >machines >> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do the >> >job >> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >> >>>> >> >>>> DaveK >> >>> >> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >>> >> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >>talking about? >> > >> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I could see >> >were the whites... >> > >> > DaveK >> >> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > Actually that does work... - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:28:31 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719qb$ios$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974es3$esl$6@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:42:48 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:58:06 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:34:18 >> >> GMT, the Troll JayDee Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:49:12 +1100, STFGP <"goose_fp"@ >> >> >pacific.net.au> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally >> >> >>> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> > >> >> >>> DaveK >> >> > >> >> >>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set >> >> >>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> > >> >> >you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol >> >> >vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good >> >> > >> >> >best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol >> >> > >> >> >then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous >> >> >magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water >> >> > >> >> >...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya >> >> > >> >> SUBSCRIBE!!!!! >> > >> >Um... The posibilities. >> > >> It is a worry, isn't it? > >Yes, but it would be interesting to try... > Sad, but true!!! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:29:24 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <27mb9t4f3qbv2lf5pumit9los46mm6bj3c@4ax.com> References: <96t248$lh1$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uogc$qr0$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <4pu59to7pt81405d5btmkpr97r97hkl776@4ax.com> <96vnia$rln$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9p889tg9s15p15dnq85o12jjrq3co9mlc8@4ax.com> <9719op$ios$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eqj$esl$5@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:42:01 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:18:41 >> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated >> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >> of alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:57:16 >> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >>alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >>>Optional Identity wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:40:27 >> >>>> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >>>> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >>>> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >>>> >> >>>> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 >> >08:50:21 >> >>>> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >>>> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >>>> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 >> >17:22:13 >> >>>> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated >> >this >> >>>> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >> >of >> >>>> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 >> >13:52:54 >> >>>> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> >> >Expectorated this >> >>>> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the >> >aethyr of >> >>>> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >No. We are funny. The only problem being >> >that most people >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >are too >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >stupid to get out jokes. It's them that >> >need to drink more. >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> I never thought of it that way, but yes, it >> >*is* their fault!! >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. >> >They are stupid >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >cause >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>they are sober. >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > DaveK >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are >> >stupid? >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>He could have a point. >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( DaveK >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >That's nice to know >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's not cool either! >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>Only for a short time, though. >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > Preferably no longer than it takes to open the next >> >bottle.... >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> Or hip-flask, if you chance to be at work. >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >Or in your slurpie if you are in a dry area.... >> >>>> >> >> >> >The cops don't have a clue. :) >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> The old vodka in the fruit salad trick. :) >> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >That works too, I got so shit face at my brothers 21st with that >> >one. >> >>>> >> >> >Oh and the second hand smoke had a part to play. >> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> I find when doing both it's best to do the pot first. >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> >I don't really smoke pot myself, but if someone is doing it near me, >> >>>> >> >I wont complain too much..... >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> It can interfere with ones consumption of alcohol. >> >>>> > >> >>>> >If not done in the correct manner I am sure it could. So I usually >> >don't >> >>>> >take that risk, pluss if I'm ever stoned I just sit there and veg out, >> >I >> >>>> >can't move at all. That's not fun at all. >> >>>> > >> >>>> I know what you mean!! I too just veg out!! and can't drink enough, >> >>>> that ca't be right, huh? >> >>> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >>> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >>asleep. >> > >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> > >> > DaveK >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >keep drinking. > You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you don't!!! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: large downloadable image Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 22:41:15 -0500 From: "Serge Sarraillon" Message-ID: References: Tornado II debugger still works if you configure Tornado to read the previous uncompress vxWorks file which contains all the debugging stuff you need. Serge S. "Dave Korn" wrote in message news:fH7l6.519$yi4.488007@newsr1.u-net.net... > Serge Sarraillon wrote in message ... > >"Anisa Parikh" wrote in message > >news:LGUk6.18470$Sl.797118@iad-read.news.verio.net... > >> > >> I'm running into problems with downloading a large image > >> from Tornado to the target. The target is MPC 860. Has > >> anyone run into a similar problem? The image is about > >> 47 meg. In the target server, I've modified the memory > >> cache size to be large enough. The wdb agent on the > >> target gives an exception and gets restarted. > > > >you should use 'objcopy' to strip your file... > >(in my case my application file went down from 15 Meg to 2 Meg) > > Unless you want the debugger to be of any use. I'd say try giving the > target server a *much* bigger cache than the image size - anywhere between > 50% - 100% extra again - and see if that fixes the problem. I've found it > necessary with my huge project, and I had the same symptom. > > DaveK > -- > They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at > Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:03:33 -0800 From: DrDiags Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3A95E115.400568AD@flashcom.net> References: <%ekl6.145$kd4.3424@news2.bora.net> Reply-To: drdiags@flashcom.net Dear Iiseull, Do you mean to use "taskDelay"? That is what I gather from your reference to setting "some time" = "very long time". If so, this would not affect how the kernel went about doing its work, because the task would be delay for "some time" system clock ticks before it became ready to run again. If you did a "taskSuspend", the task would be set to the suspended state and would not be able to run until some other task or you did a "taskResume" on the TID. So after the first "taskSuspend", all other calls to suspend a already suspended task should do nothing. Now, if for some reason, your task is doing something to keep a watchdog at bay for instance, then of course the watchdog would not be serviced and your system would reboot. HTH. "À̽½" wrote: > Dear all. > > I'm a biginner on VxWorks. > On the project, my job, I use "taskSuspend" to suspend a task for some time > as below. > > FOREVER { > if ( iAmActive ) > do something; > else > taskSuspend (myTaskId); > } > > While, if the "some time" would be "very long time", then what will be > happened > on the system ? > I did not test the "taskSuspend" function for "long time" yet. > > Any dear konw? > > Thanks a lot. > > iiseull --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VxWorks: Servo Control System Job Opportunity Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:44:54 -0800 From: VxWorks User Group Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <974rm7$9tf$1@overload.lbl.gov> Triad Project Management Services supports major engineering projects for the government and commercial accounts. Our clients seek creative solutions to unique engineering problems involving astronomy, physics and sophisticated hi-tech applications. If this kind of work interests you, Triad Project Management is currently recruiting Sr. Electrical Engineers with real-time servo control experience using VxWorks. As an engineer on this project you will design the control system to operate a six-axis optical positioning system involving 20+ interrelated feedback loops. Candidates must have an understanding of the interface between electrical hardware and the programming of the real time control software written in C in a VxWorks environment. Candidates need to be able to design, develop, implement and test low noise/high dynamic range feedback control electronics, including design, implement and troubleshooting of real-time control systems, especially those with VME based microprocessors, embedded DSP technology and VxWorks operating systems. Experience with C or C++ programming is desired. Experience in one or more of the following is desirable: design of front-end interface electronics including low noise analog electronic circuits, VME based systems, UNIX, embedded microprocessor hardware and software systems, remote control and monitoring systems. Some travel of about 20% will be needed. If you would like to know more about this job opportunity call our offices or contact us via email immediately. Of course, if you would prefer not to receive email regarding this or other VxWorks job opportunities, we do understand. Just send me a note containing "remove" in the subject and "VxWorks Jobs" in the body and you won't be contacted in the future when other VxWorks opportunities arise. Thanks. Michael Green mgreen@triadpm.com Triad Project Management Services, Inc. 3452 E Foothill Blvd Suite 530 Pasadena, CA 91107 Office: 626-793-7314 Fax: 626-793-7432 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VxWorks(64 Bit Addition). Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:27:41 +0530 From: "Krishna Kishore Reddy Sureddy" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <974v6n$b47$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi VxWorks Gurus, How to perform addition of 64 bit integers on a 32 bit processor.(MIPS, R4000). Can someone pass me code in "C".... Thanks and Regards, S.K.K.Reddy. --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:57:50 GMT From: JayDee Organization: =^.^= Message-ID: References: <96l42r$pul$1@pookiehead.databasix.com> <96m002$5fp$6@moriarty.databasix.com> <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: ThatJayDee@yahoo.com On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:43:13 +1100, Optional Identity wrote: >>>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka = generally >>>> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >>>> DaveK >> >>>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >>>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set >>>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >>you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol >>vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good >> >>best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol >> >>then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous >>magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water >> >>...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya >SUBSCRIBE!!!!! can't do any distilling or make shit like THC acetate I stupidly left my organic chemistry kits in Sharon's fucken humongous storage space...hugeass one! she gotta big booty, too, butt it's a fine one... argh, I left my scales at her place woah, I was *really* fucked-up... got my Deering and my stashbox, tho... I think I left my surveyors' transit, too I recovered the tapes and some shit on 5.25HD that she had kinda-stashed behind the bed... pffffttt... --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:57:51 GMT From: JayDee Organization: =^.^= Message-ID: References: <96slrv$a1f$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96t248$lh1$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uogc$qr0$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <4pu59to7pt81405d5btmkpr97r97hkl776@4ax.com> <96vnia$rln$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <=ZSTOrcE18YzTTWWZ7l3dmzn896P@4ax.com> Reply-To: ThatJayDee@yahoo.com On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:44:37 +1100, Optional Identity wrote: >>oh, fuck the booze...it's toxic shit, anyway... >>just smoke decent equatorial varieties of weed >>I had this shit called Rutabagah (leaves looked like rutabagah >>leaves) that was an Afghanistani-Columbian hybrid, and forced >>the females to produce pollen, which produced only female seeds >>...didn't have to fuck with whacking a bunch of apical meristems >Just reading this is getting me off! whop the plants over a window screen brush-together the golden dust...fill a fat vial packed-full smoke that fucking shit in a long-ass bamboo bong... mother fuck... we got high, lots real fucken high and that wasn't even counting the magic shit or LGDs jezuz kreist on a crutch, no wonder I'm all fucked-up I ain't been getting high and fucking my brains out... --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:54:34 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <96m002$5fp$6@moriarty.databasix.com> <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:57:50 GMT, the Troll JayDee Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:43:13 +1100, Optional Identity > wrote: > > >>>>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally >>>>> keeps me pissed through the night... >>> >>>>> DaveK >>> >>>>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >>>>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set >>>>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >>> >>>you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol >>>vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good >>> >>>best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol >>> >>>then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous >>>magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water >>> >>>...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya > >>SUBSCRIBE!!!!! > >can't do any distilling or make shit like THC acetate > >I stupidly left my organic chemistry kits in Sharon's >fucken humongous storage space...hugeass one! > >she gotta big booty, too, butt it's a fine one... > >argh, I left my scales at her place > >woah, I was *really* fucked-up... > >got my Deering and my stashbox, tho... > >I think I left my surveyors' transit, too > >I recovered the tapes and some shit on 5.25HD >that she had kinda-stashed behind the bed... > >pffffttt... > That is some fucked up shit, huh. Nevermind dued you'll be ok, I guess! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:55:56 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <4r5c9tk8m0c6o3bk4ei6u9lce7eh3up3nk@4ax.com> References: <96slrv$a1f$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96t248$lh1$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uogc$qr0$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <4pu59to7pt81405d5btmkpr97r97hkl776@4ax.com> <96vnia$rln$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <=ZSTOrcE18YzTTWWZ7l3dmzn896P@4ax.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:57:51 GMT, the Troll JayDee Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:44:37 +1100, Optional Identity > wrote: > > >>>oh, fuck the booze...it's toxic shit, anyway... > >>>just smoke decent equatorial varieties of weed > >>>I had this shit called Rutabagah (leaves looked like rutabagah >>>leaves) that was an Afghanistani-Columbian hybrid, and forced >>>the females to produce pollen, which produced only female seeds > >>>...didn't have to fuck with whacking a bunch of apical meristems > >>Just reading this is getting me off! > >whop the plants over a window screen > >brush-together the golden dust...fill a fat vial packed-full > >smoke that fucking shit in a long-ass bamboo bong... > >mother fuck... > >we got high, lots > >real fucken high > >and that wasn't even counting the magic shit or LGDs > >jezuz kreist on a crutch, no wonder I'm all fucked-up > >I ain't been getting high and fucking my brains out... I'm thinkin' mebee you needs to dry out for a few days, man!! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Howto get documentation for hashLib,sllLib and dllLib ? Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:27:10 +0100 From: Thomas Lobbe Organization: Ericsson Eurolab Deutschland GmbH Message-ID: <3A961EDE.516DC3CC@eede.ericsson.se> Reply-To: Thomas.Lobbe@eed.ericsson.se Hi, does anybody know how to get a documentation about the undocumented libraries hashLib, sllLib and/or dllLib ? Thanks, Thomas L. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: vxworks memory management Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:51:44 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <982922171.463684@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <971pkv$qsd$1@mail.cn99.com> VxWorks memory management is located in memLib and memPartLib. As far as my knowledge goes it is not much more than a usual first fit, allocating from highest address to lowest (for x86, at least). I do not know of any optimizations for realtime, embedded will probably not need special treatment here. If you need constant time allocation or allocation is ISR, you need to implement that on your own... hth werner news.cn99.com wrote in message news:971pkv$qsd$1@mail.cn99.com... > Does anyone can tell me the vxworks memory management? I searched WinRiver > Web Site, but can't find it. What is special for realtime and embedded > environment? > > Thanks, > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: vxWorks image booting error Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:18:09 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <982923754.702092@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <96v33n$8nn$1@news.nuri.net> Hi, well, this is quite a bit hard to diagnose from outside but let's have a try i would assume some of the options you changed to make the bsp work with your target are overwritten by the project facility of T2 the most promising way to check this (if you developed the BSP yourself and are well informed about what _should_ be set/not set) is to have a look at the generated files from the project facility. after building the image, you will find these files in your project directory: prjComps.h - The packages included in your image(defines INCLUDE_Xxxx macros) prjParams.h - Overwrites _most_ of your BSP's settings, carefully check important values! prjConfig.c - This is where your image really is built together (the usrRoot() function, to be precise) linkSyms.c - This is just a list of symbols which's code is compiled into the image The image location is defined in some places (at least for some BSPs) In the project facility (hardware -> memory -> BSP Memory Configuration) In the file config.h of your BSP (used for command line build!! - will contain the _correct_ values in your case) In the makefile (MUST match the other locations, otherwise the image will not be linked for the correct location!!!) Macro (= parameter, for project thingy) names are something like: LOCAL_MEM_AUTOSIZE LOCAL_MEM_SIZE LOCAL_MEM_LOCAL_ADRS Finally, I expect you do not really mean using the old Tornado I compilers and tools, but rather the command line build with the tools that come with Tornado II, don't you???? Otherwise you will face TONS of problems... I would _never_ mix the Tornado I and II tools... hth Werner yessi wrote in message news:96v33n$8nn$1@news.nuri.net... > Hi. > > First, I will explain my environment. > # CPU board: MPC860 that is made in our company > # BSP : The my BSP is not standard. Before using Tornado 2, > make compiling is done in Tornado 1( Dos command ) > and it is operated well. But I don't know what error is in > Tornado2 project facility. > > 1. I think that boot device is specified well(MPC860, cpm). > What is image location and bootloader? > How can I modify image location ? > > 2. If I don't use standard BSPs, it is impossible to use ? > > 3. ------------------------------------------------ > Attaching network interface cpm0... done. > Attaching network interface lo0... done. > Loading... 749616 > Starting at 0x10000... (at this point, procedure stop > and CPU is fail) > ------------------------------------------------ > Attaching network by bootrom is good, vxWorks image is bad. > Why Loading does not consist of text, data, bss. > Is it another error? > > 4. First, in Dos command , I excute "make vxWorks" command, > just runtime image file. > It is equal to making vxWorks images file in T2 project facility > (Build TAB - Standard BSP Builds... - vxWorks). It is operated well. > Second, (No.3) I made vxWorks by right mouse click menu > after making new bootable project . (Rebuild vxWorks menu) > - It contain vxWorks component but it is not operated at all. > What is different first method from second. Is it debugging and > windView? > > 5. I compared vxWorks hex file by 1st method from 2nd method, > and found difference each other. > After Starting at 0x10000...message, it will show 3 sentences if good. > -- Attaching network interface cpm0... done. > -- Attached TCP/IP ... > -- Attached NFS not included... > In 1st vxWorks hex file this sentences are included but 2nd > vxWorks hex file is not. > Why is it ? Perhaps make file ? or Project configuration file in > T2 project facility? > I think that network file is not included, probably usrNetwork.h > (/target/src/config/ ) > Why this directory and important file are not linked automatically? > It need modification of config.h? > I am confused. > > Thanks for reading. > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:24:45 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <982924150.649090@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <96vgsv$h40$1@news.etri.re.kr> <9719h2$iso$1@neptunium.btinternet.com> AFAIK you can also escape on of the qustion marks with a backslash thus change: printf("What??!"); to printf("What?\?!"); for code you need to give other people to compile (that do not have/want to set -Wno-trgraph thing) and maybe more 'beautiful' than string concatenation... hth werner Dave Korn wrote in message news:eH7l6.517$yi4.488214@newsr1.u-net.net... > David Laight wrote in message <9719h2$iso$1@neptunium.btinternet.com>... > >RTFM! > > > >In this case ANSI C - try K&R 2. > > > >Trigraphs are horrid beasts invented by the ANSI C committe way back in the > >mid 1980s in order to make C source readable on terminals/printers with > >non-US/UK 7-bit character sets. In particular those where [ ] ^ \ { } ` > etc > >are accented characters rather than punctuation. > > > >Any sequence ??x (in C source) is replaced by a single other character. > >I don't know the mappings, but suspect: > > ??( is [ > > ??/ is \ > >there are about a dozen of them. > > > >You probably have ??? in a string somewhere... > >(you can subvert things by concatenating strings - "abc" "def" is identical > >to "abcdef") > > > >Trigraphs are thus valid C - but almost certainly not what you had in mind. > > I'm pretty sure that Gcc *ignores* them by default, and the warning is to > let you know that if by any remote chance you *did* want a trigraph, you > have to use the -trigraphs switch to enable them. So there's no need to > concatenate strings to avoid them, unless portability to very old compilers > is an issue for you! You could probably add -Wno-trigraphs to your build > flags. > > DaveK > -- > They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at > Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:29:56 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <982924461.600174@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <%ekl6.145$kd4.3424@news2.bora.net> Hi, you should not use taskSuspend to implement sleeping/delaying a task cite from VxWorks Reference Guide: + This routine is the basis of the debugging and exception handling packages. + However, as a synchronization mechanism, this facility should be rejected + in favor of the more general semaphore facility. end of cite to delay/sleep for a fixed time use taskDelay() to wait for some event consider semaphores hth werner À̽½ wrote in message news:%ekl6.145$kd4.3424@news2.bora.net... > Dear all. > > I'm a biginner on VxWorks. > On the project, my job, I use "taskSuspend" to suspend a task for some time > as below. > > FOREVER { > if ( iAmActive ) > do something; > else > taskSuspend (myTaskId); > } > > While, if the "some time" would be "very long time", then what will be > happened > on the system ? > I did not test the "taskSuspend" function for "long time" yet. > > > Any dear konw? > > > Thanks a lot. > > > iiseull > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: VxWorks & PCI Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:36:36 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <982924863.100706@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3A93EB0A.81A16FA9@vitatron.com> For the pc386, pc486 und pcPentium BSPs, the physical address written to the card is _equal_ to the logical address used in VxWorks. This is because all the offset constants have a value of 0 (or evaluate to this, in the end...) I recommend you start with the file "sysEl3c90xEnd.c" and lookup the function STATUS sysEl3c90xPciInit (void) I left out the memory mapping at all and only read the current setting, because the BIOS does that business quite fine for me... If you do not have a PCI aware BIOS on your board, you cannot take this approach, of course. hth werner Renate Meijer wrote in message news:3A93EB0A.81A16FA9@vitatron.com... > Hi, > > I'm developing a VxWorks driver for Unidig IP cards running on x86 > hardware (and BSP). The card in question uses a PLX9080 PCI controller > which delivers the address 0xE0000000 for the BAR2 register. I set up > the MMU using sysMmuMapAdd which comes out ok. However, when I dum the > memory at that address the dump routine takes it's time on the first few > > bytes (as if it times out) and delivers nothing but zero's. > > Some time ago, i picked up a driver from this group to use as an > example. Basically I do the same except this driver adds 0xC0000000 to > BAR2 with a comment stating that there is an offset between the CPU > addresses and the PCI address range. When I try this in my own driver, > there's no delay for a dump at 0xA0000000 (0xE0000000 + (int) > 0xC0000000). > > Does anyone know where 0xC0000000 comes from? Is it correct? Am I > missing something in the initialisation or setup? > > Thanx in advance... > > Kind regards, > > Renate Meijer. > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: OT: make for Win32? Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:42:06 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <982925190.691726@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <973oh8$hoh$1@overload.lbl.gov> <3a9577fc.254627795@news> Hello, sorry, this is a little off topic maybe... but do you know of a GNU make (or similar powerful) version for Windows NT / Windows 2000 that can cope with embedded spaces in file and/or directory names? The versions I found up to now cannot deal with that... Thank you for any suggestions... thanks werner Bob DeJoie wrote in message news:3a9577fc.254627795@news... > Hi, > I come from a Unix back ground and created custom makefiles > under T1. I found that the version of Gnu make that comes with > Tornado was not able to do recursive make calls so instead > used the version that comes with bash. > > When we went to T2 nothing much changed. I am building > from a bash window and not from inside the IDE. > > > On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:15 -0800, "Tan, Tat Kin" > wrote: > > >Greetings all, > > > >Previously we developed some Apps and compiled the image under a project, > >say Proj1. It's all done in Unix environment (makefile). Now what i want to > >do is, to use T2 Win base instead of Unix. Basically to port the entire > >collections of source files into T2 Win, maintaining the original directory > >structure. I understand that in Windows based Tornado2.0, there is a > >facility that allow you to add projects to workspace (under File) but that > >will require ".pwj" file to describe the structure. In Unix, there is no > >such thing. > > > >My problem is, instead of rebuilding the entire project, how can i port > >Proj1 to Win T2? And so that when building the image, it works exactly the > >same as Unix make. Any taker? Million thanks in advance. > > > >Rgds, > >tatkin > > > > ================================================ > Bob DeJoie > Kwajalein Missile Range > Republic of the Marshall Islands > email: rjdejoie@kmrmail.kmr.ll.mit.edu > phone: 805-355-5855 fax: 805-355-3833 > Time Zone: GMT +12 hours > ================================================ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Handling Interrupt - Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:49:46 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <982925651.566693@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <96rnsp$c9n$1@overload.lbl.gov> > ...The problem is that the status registers must be read some time > after the interrupt has occured. ... This is _exactly_ what an interrupt is originally intended for ;-) --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: T2 man pages??? Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:08:17 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <982926762.133257@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <96h9ta$kks$1@overload.lbl.gov> <3A8D3C72.FBF1BECF@lmco.com> <3A8D866F.E07AFAF2@lmco.com> Dave Korn wrote in message news:gRdj6.279$yi4.277387@newsr1.u-net.net... > Joe Durusau wrote in message <3A8D866F.E07AFAF2@lmco.com>... > > I suppose that there are several parts to the answer. > > > >1). We normally do development from remote systems via a telnet > >interface, and use the gui only when it gives us something useful, > >(which is not often). > > Remote host, local target? You guys are bizarre! > Anyone may use the tool he likes for programming. Even a serial terminal if this makes the guy happy... > >2). If you type man -k you may get as many as 20 or 30 hits, > >and I can't imagine a browser popping up that many pages at once. > > That's a valid point, because the index is only searchable by function > names, where apropos indexes every word in the entire doc. > If WindRiver did use the HTML Help format everyone else uses this _would_ work. Take MSDN as a reference for that, I never had too few hits... > >3). Running a gui interface slows down every computer I have ever used > >by at least tenfold. I don't like that. > > I find that they tend to be fast enough nowadays that I don't care. After > all, I can only type 30-something wpm at best; I don't care whether the > response time is just under my character rate or 1/100th of it, I only care > if the machine takes longer to respond than I take between typing chars. > I agree with that 100% > >4). I too, an burdened with windoz (nt 4.0, it happesn). But for more > >sophisticated operations, I prefer unix or dos command line operations. > > Yeah, I don't actually use the Tornado gui except for the debugger; I do > all my builds in a dos shell. You've still got access to the GUI index when > you need it, you don't have to run the T2 gui to get the html index. It is the really poor tornado development environment to blame here. If that project tool really worked the way it probably was intended I think this would be different. But as is, it cannot build a bootrom, some options are simply misseng,... Hope this will change soon, because personally I really prefer a _good_ IDE to a bunch of cmd line tools. Since there most of my tornado development is done in Visual Studio... only my 2 cent... werner --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: T2 man pages??? Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:09:52 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <982926857.174058@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3A8AE8FE.D8334752@sis-dev.com> > With the good old unix man pages, I could have a couple of man pages, > a couple of includes and a couple of .c files displayed on my monitor > with all visible, no overlap. damn where did you buy that 200" screen? --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: T2 man pages??? Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:14:47 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <982927151.782094@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <96h9ta$kks$1@overload.lbl.gov> <3A8D3C72.FBF1BECF@lmco.com> <3A8D866F.E07AFAF2@lmco.com> <8b3l6.456515$U46.13556324@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com> Corey Ashford wrote in message news:8b3l6.456515$U46.13556324@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com... > With all due respect, you guys ought to consider taking a leap into the late > 90's ;-) > > What Tornado 2 needs is not Unix style man pages, but a good search engine > for their HTML pages. Something like altavista's advanced search engine > would > be nice. Something where you could search for things like "boot NEAR rom > NEAR > (image OR file)". > In other words, if those WindRiver guys did save the time to write there one half finished search tool and invested it in making HTML Help files from there docs they would: - - take up less space (a lot less, to be precise...) - - have much better index - - have search feature (including AND, OR, NEAR,...) I hope they will lern the lesson one day... Instead of reinventing a wheel, ending with a pentagon shape :-( only my 2 cent werner --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Debugging with MMU Enabled Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:22:00 -0000 From: "Kelvin Lawson" Message-ID: <975h4f$n9m5j$1@ID-56276.news.dfncis.de> References: <973b0g$ng5gc$1@ID-56276.news.dfncis.de> Thanks for the response Bill. > Kelvin> We can step through usrInit() and some of usrRoot(), however > Kelvin> the debugger hangs during usrMmuInit(). Specifically the last > Kelvin> call it makes is to vmBaseGlobalMapInit(). After this call > Kelvin> the PC becomes 0x00000000, and if you step it goes back to > Kelvin> 0xFFFFFFFC. > > The reason this happens is that when the MMU in enabled, the code uses > the processor pipeline as temporary memory to store some code. The address > space will change under your feet as the current code changes to the MMU > version. So you can find problems if you step line by line over the MMU changeover ? I have found that I can actually run past the MMU initialisation, as long as I don't step through it. I can set a breakpoint in my application code and hit Go. This runs through the MMU changeover, etc. and eventually hits the breakpoint. However as soon as this breakpoint is reached, we cannot do anything more - stepping etc, as the PC has become 0. Could this also be explained by the pipeline, or is that only relevant when stepping through ? I therefore have the same problem whether I step through the MMU changeover or just run through it. It seems like as soon as the debugger kicks in with MMU enabled it gets totally "lost". Actually to be a bit more descriptive, I have noticed that when you stop or hit a breakpoint after MMU is enabled, at first you can see the PC is as you would expect. (i.e. not 0) but as soon as you view mem in a memory window, or view source in the source window, or hit the step button etc. _then_ the PC becomes 0, and you can't step any further. Perhaps this is relevant that the debugger shows the PC correctly initially, but as soon as you try to do anything with the debugger it becomes 0 and you can't step. I've tried setting the PC back to where it should be but the step still doesn't work. > Can you use the T2 debugger with the MMU enabled? It is not clear from > what you have said. I can only speculate without this information. Yes, I can debug using T2 with MMU enabled - that is fine. It is only vCLICK that complains if you enable MMU. I'd be interested to know if anyone else has used vCLICK to debug once MMU has been initialised ? Thanks for your interest, Kelvin. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Note: 82559ER access to serial EEPROM Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:22:01 +0000 From: James Marshall Organization: Agilent Technologies UK Ltd Message-ID: <3A9655E9.9ED5B997@agilent.com> This is just a note about something I found recently on x86. The serial EEPROM attached to the 82557/8/9 & 82559ER LAN controllers stores the MAC address, among other things, which VxWorks reads during startup (sys557Init()). The access delay for the EEPROM is ensured using sysDelay() calls. sysDelay() on x86 is a read to a dummy i/o location and takes about 700ns minimum, typically longer. This is fine because the serial EEPROM will work with a delay of 250ns at 5V. The problem is that the 82559ER (and 82559?) works at 3.3V and the EEPROM access delay is 1us - four times longer. Typically sysDelay() plus the call/return time will take 1us but if all code is in the cache as it is when looping to read the EEPROM then the delays are marginal. The solution is to call sysDelay() twice instead of just once. Apparently sysDelay() in most other architectures is a fixed 1us and works fine. James Marshall. --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:42:25 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> References: <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> Optional Identity wrote in message ... >According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:44:00 >+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >alt.usenet.kooks : > >>Optional Identity wrote: >> >>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:31 >>> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated >>> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >>> of alt.usenet.kooks : >>> >>> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >>> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:30 >>> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>> >>alt.usenet.kooks : >>> >> >>> >>>Dave Korn wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >>> >>>> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... >>> >>>> >Dave Korn wrote: >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >>> >>>> >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... >>> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >>> >>>> >> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >>> >>>> >> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. >>> >>>> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually >>> >get >>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you >>> >>>> don't >>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you >>> >stop. >>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours >>> >>>> after, >>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed >>> >>>> while >>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >>> >>>> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up >>> >anyway. >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that >>> >every >>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you >>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka >>> >>>> generally >>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> DaveK >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set >>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, you >>> >don't >>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those >>> >machines >>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do the >>> >job >>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> DaveK >>> >>> >>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >>> >>> >>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >>> >> >>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >>> >>talking about? >>> > >>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I could see >>> >were the whites... >>> > >>> > DaveK >>> >>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >Actually that does work... Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. >-- > >Optional Identity > >Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! >Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, >Hace you had your little death today? >N'est ce pas? >http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) >Skepticult Rank: Colonel >Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 >I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:43:57 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: <7Hsl6.559$yi4.518243@newsr1.u-net.net> References: <96slrv$a1f$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96t248$lh1$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uogc$qr0$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <4pu59to7pt81405d5btmkpr97r97hkl776@4ax.com> <96vnia$rln$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9p889tg9s15p15dnq85o12jjrq3co9mlc8@4ax.com> <9719op$ios$1@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:18:41 >-0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated >this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >of alt.usenet.kooks : > >>Optional Identity wrote in message ... >>>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:57:16 >>>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>>alt.usenet.kooks : >>> >>>>Optional Identity wrote: >>>> >>>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:40:27 >>>>> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>>>> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>>>> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>>> >>>>> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 >>08:50:21 >>>>> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>>>> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>>>> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 >>17:22:13 >>>>> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated >>this >>>>> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >>of >>>>> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 >>13:52:54 >>>>> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> >>Expectorated this >>>>> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the >>aethyr of >>>>> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >No. We are funny. The only problem being >>that most people >>>>> >> >> >> >> >are too >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >stupid to get out jokes. It's them that >>need to drink more. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> > >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> I never thought of it that way, but yes, it >>*is* their fault!! >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. >>They are stupid >>>>> >> >> >> >> >cause >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>they are sober. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > DaveK >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are >>stupid? >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>He could have a point. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( DaveK >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >That's nice to know >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's not cool either! >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>Only for a short time, though. >>>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >> > Preferably no longer than it takes to open the next >>bottle.... >>>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >> Or hip-flask, if you chance to be at work. >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> >Or in your slurpie if you are in a dry area.... >>>>> >> >> >> >The cops don't have a clue. :) >>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >> The old vodka in the fruit salad trick. :) >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> >That works too, I got so shit face at my brothers 21st with that >>one. >>>>> >> >> >Oh and the second hand smoke had a part to play. >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> I find when doing both it's best to do the pot first. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >I don't really smoke pot myself, but if someone is doing it near me, >>>>> >> >I wont complain too much..... >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> It can interfere with ones consumption of alcohol. >>>>> > >>>>> >If not done in the correct manner I am sure it could. So I usually >>don't >>>>> >take that risk, pluss if I'm ever stoned I just sit there and veg out, >>I >>>>> >can't move at all. That's not fun at all. >>>>> > >>>>> I know what you mean!! I too just veg out!! and can't drink enough, >>>>> that ca't be right, huh? >>>> >>>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >>>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >>>> >>>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >>>asleep. >> >> It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >>drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >>passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> DaveK > >It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. That's Dr. DaveK's all-natural herbal hangover remedy you're talking about there! DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:54:07 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: <7Hsl6.560$yi4.518149@newsr1.u-net.net> References: <%ekl6.145$kd4.3424@news2.bora.net> À̽½ wrote in message >Dear all. > >I'm a biginner on VxWorks. >On the project, my job, I use "taskSuspend" to suspend a task for some time >as below. > >FOREVER { > if ( iAmActive ) > do something; > else > taskSuspend (myTaskId); >} > >While, if the "some time" would be "very long time", then what will be >happened >on the system ? >I did not test the "taskSuspend" function for "long time" yet. No problem. The task will stay suspended forever, or until taskResume is called. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Debugging with MMU Enabled Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:57:29 -0500 From: George Varndell Organization: Varndell Engineering, LLC. Message-ID: <3A965E39.68446BCB@prodigy.net> References: <973b0g$ng5gc$1@ID-56276.news.dfncis.de> Reply-To: george@varndellengineering.com Kelvin Lawson wrote: > > Is it possible to have basic MMU enabled while debugging with > visionCLICK/ICE PowerPC JTAG debuggers ? Yes, on all PPC processors and all other supported architecures. > > We can step through usrInit() and some of usrRoot(), however the debugger > hangs during usrMmuInit(). Specifically the last call it makes is to > vmBaseGlobalMapInit(). After this call the PC becomes 0x00000000, and if you > step it goes back to 0xFFFFFFFC. I've seen this stepping backwards on the 8260 before. It happens when the core has reset and Click has lost sync with the target. > > It is actually possible to set a hardware breakpoint much further into the > code, and the code does reach the breakpoint, however as soon as BKM mode > kicks in you become unable to step any further. We're using a PPC755 on the > Scout board. > > We can debug if we turn MMU off, or we can use the T2 debugger, but we'd > like to find a way to use vCLICK with MMU enabled. Any ideas much > appreciated. When you enable the MMU, I assume the caches are enabled throughout most of the address space? By any chance, when you lose contact, is the 755 really hot? This is just a hunch, but you might try throttling the ICache. Of course, there could be many other explanations for what you're seeing. Best Regards, George Varndell - -- Embedded Systems Expertise Varndell Engineering, LLC. http://www.varndellengineering.com 81 Baltimore St. Suite 206 301-722-9180 Cumberland MD. 21502 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: make for Win32? Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:15:14 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <973oh8$hoh$1@overload.lbl.gov> <3a9577fc.254627795@news> <982925190.691726@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> Werner Schiendl wrote in message <982925190.691726@newsmaster-04.atnet.at>... >Hello, > >sorry, this is a little off topic maybe... > >but do you know of a GNU make (or similar powerful) version for Windows NT / >Windows 2000 that can cope with embedded spaces in file and/or directory >names? >The versions I found up to now cannot deal with that... Cygwin Gnu make should handle them just fine as long as you escape each space with a '\' backslash. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Unix to Win platform Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:16:27 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <973oh8$hoh$1@overload.lbl.gov> <3a9577fc.254627795@news> Bob DeJoie wrote in message <3a9577fc.254627795@news>... >Hi, >I come from a Unix back ground and created custom makefiles >under T1. I found that the version of Gnu make that comes with >Tornado was not able to do recursive make calls so instead >used the version that comes with bash. > >When we went to T2 nothing much changed. I am building >from a bash window and not from inside the IDE. One thing may have changed: I've only ever had T2, and I found that recursive makes work fine. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks,comp.protocols.snmp Subject: Newbie needs help with embedded SNMP agent Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:50:22 GMT From: "joeslugg" Organization: Worldpath Internet Services (worldpath.net) Message-ID: Hi, We're going to be building SNMP support for our network device that runs VxWorks. We're likely to purchase the WindRiver offering for our agent, so assuming that works out OK, I'll just need to build in MIB support to the applications running on the box. I'm trying to understand that part. I know that WindRiver's MIB compiler will output a bunch of C code stubs for 'get' 'set' and other routines for each MIB object. I figure I can put code in those stubs that accesses individual variables within each application task (more or less) directly. Is that a bad idea? I know some implementations have some kind of elaborate database that sits in between the agent and the applications. Then the agent would act upon database elements, as would the applications while they're running (instead of using local variables). Is this sort of layer necessary for some reason that I'm not grasping? (I know - 'it depends' :^) Thanks -J --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:57:34 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <9760ue$3jd$9@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6 Dave Korn wrote: > Optional Identity wrote in message ... > >According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:44:00 > >+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >alt.usenet.kooks : > > > >>Optional Identity wrote: > >> > >>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:31 > >>> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated > >>> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > >>> of alt.usenet.kooks : > >>> > >>> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... > >>> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:30 > >>> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >>> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >>> >>alt.usenet.kooks : > >>> >> > >>> >>>Dave Korn wrote: > >>> >>> > >>> >>>> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >>> >>>> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >>> >>>> >Dave Korn wrote: > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >>> >>>> >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >>> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > clever. > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > anywhere. > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live > with. > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > find. > >>> >>>> >> >> > > >>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > actually > >>> >get > >>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, > you > >>> >>>> don't > >>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you > >>> >stop. > >>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > hours > >>> >>>> after, > >>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > pissed > >>> >>>> while > >>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >>> >>>> >> >> > > >>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up > >>> >anyway. > >>> >>>> >> > > >>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that > >>> >every > >>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > you > >>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >>> >>>> >> > > >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > vodka > >>> >>>> generally > >>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> >> DaveK > >>> >>>> > > >>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > set > >>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > you > >>> >don't > >>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those > >>> >machines > >>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do > the > >>> >job > >>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> DaveK > >>> >>> > >>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >>> >>> > >>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >>> >> > >>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >>> >>talking about? > >>> > > >>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > could see > >>> >were the whites... > >>> > > >>> > DaveK > >>> > >>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> > >>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> > >Actually that does work... > > Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > > DaveK Ah shucks DaveK. I really apreciate that. I'm currently finished with the C&N scotch and am now onto the JD. > They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at > Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. > >Optional Identity > > > >Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > >Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > >Hace you had your little death today? > >N'est ce pas? > >http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > >Skepticult Rank: Colonel > >Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > >I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:55:57 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <9760rf$3jd$8@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96slm3$5j2$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <96t22a$lh1$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoal$qr0$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <6nu59to1omj583nudug86egn9dk8rrnnnu@4ax.com> <96vng7$rln$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <0l889ts97snuhm2g6blquaqp1c7d14kqos@4ax.com> <971a0f$lp0$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974f2k$esl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:46:03 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:01:22 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:39:20 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:47:17 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:21:05 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:49:51 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:40:41 > >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >[snip] > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid cause > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>they are sober. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>He could have a point. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every > >> >> >> >> >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> And clearly you have though of them all. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Not all of them, just most. I have got to leave myself something to do > >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> What you planning on doing after 20 years? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Ops, I meant to say after the next 20 odd years. > >> >> >> >> >Well, medically, my body will only be able to keep on drinking > >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. So I'm going to have something to > >> >> >> >> >do after those 20 odd years are up... > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> You could just save up for a liver transplant. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Shit. Fuck. > >> >> >> >Do you realise how much time you just save me > >> >> >> >with those 9 words? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> One of the benefits of age and experience. > >> >> > > >> >> >Shit, well I owe you. The first shout is on me. > >> >> >Though you better print this off and bring it with you for proof as > >> >> >I will forget and deny most vigioursly that I said it. :) > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> Nah, I don't care bout teh shouts!! I will just say "liver" over and > >> >> over til you buy me a drink!!! > >> > > >> >That could work, depending on how much I already had already > >> >had to drink, not enough and you would get your drink. To much > >> >and I would YELL "FUCK OFF" over and over until you bought > >> >me 3 rounds. > >> > > >> That would work, I am sensitive and I will buy drinks for someone > >> yelling "FUCK OFF" until they stop! > > > >That is very interesting. Though I wouldn't take advantage, after a > >bit of yelling my throat would get dry. And then I would have to > >concentrate on the drinking. > > > I figure that is teh best way to end teh argument. Yep, just agree to shut the fuck up and let the drinking do the talking. And no, I never played footy. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:58:26 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97610a$3jd$10@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719qb$ios$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974es3$esl$6@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:42:48 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:58:06 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:34:18 > >> >> GMT, the Troll JayDee Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:49:12 +1100, STFGP <"goose_fp"@ > >> >> >pacific.net.au> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally > >> >> >>> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> > > >> >> >>> DaveK > >> >> > > >> >> >>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set > >> >> >>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> > > >> >> >you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol > >> >> >vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good > >> >> > > >> >> >best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol > >> >> > > >> >> >then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous > >> >> >magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water > >> >> > > >> >> >...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya > >> >> > > >> >> SUBSCRIBE!!!!! > >> > > >> >Um... The posibilities. > >> > > >> It is a worry, isn't it? > > > >Yes, but it would be interesting to try... > > > Sad, but true!!! I now have a mission in life. Get with a nice nurse to try that out... > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: remote load and startup Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:47:26 -0800 From: David Zempel Organization: Lockheed Martin Corporation Message-ID: <3A96860E.DDF715BA@excite.com> References: <3A92B843.75E23955@excite.com> <3A933406.F31AB055@yahoo.com> <3A93E379.694B0CE3@excite.com> <3A9498A0.175DBAA9@yahoo.com> Yes, that is correct. Infact, the original script I posted won't work anyway even between two unix systems. The problem there lies with redirecting input into xterm. I have gotten around this by writing my own terminal emulator in Perl that uses system level reads and writes. This is still not the ideal solution though because our target system outputs unpredictable messages that are impossible to catch without blocking on a read. So once I complete the initialization process, I send a logout command and then I bring up an xterm and rlogin back to the target. Crude, but it works. Thanks all, David Zempel. --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:02:17 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97617h$3jd$11@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96t248$lh1$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uogc$qr0$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <4pu59to7pt81405d5btmkpr97r97hkl776@4ax.com> <96vnia$rln$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9p889tg9s15p15dnq85o12jjrq3co9mlc8@4ax.com> <9719op$ios$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eqj$esl$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <27mb9t4f3qbv2lf5pumit9los46m Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:42:01 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:18:41 > >> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated > >> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > >> of alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... > >> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:57:16 > >> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >>alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >>>Optional Identity wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:40:27 > >> >>>> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >>>> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >>>> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >>>> > >> >>>> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 > >> >08:50:21 > >> >>>> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >>>> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >>>> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 > >> >17:22:13 > >> >>>> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated > >> >this > >> >>>> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > >> >of > >> >>>> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 > >> >13:52:54 > >> >>>> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > >> >Expectorated this > >> >>>> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the > >> >aethyr of > >> >>>> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >No. We are funny. The only problem being > >> >that most people > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >are too > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >stupid to get out jokes. It's them that > >> >need to drink more. > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> I never thought of it that way, but yes, it > >> >*is* their fault!! > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. > >> >They are stupid > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >cause > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>they are sober. > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > DaveK > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are > >> >stupid? > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>He could have a point. > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( DaveK > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >That's nice to know > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's not cool either! > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>Only for a short time, though. > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > Preferably no longer than it takes to open the next > >> >bottle.... > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> Or hip-flask, if you chance to be at work. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> >Or in your slurpie if you are in a dry area.... > >> >>>> >> >> >> >The cops don't have a clue. :) > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> The old vodka in the fruit salad trick. :) > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >That works too, I got so shit face at my brothers 21st with that > >> >one. > >> >>>> >> >> >Oh and the second hand smoke had a part to play. > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> I find when doing both it's best to do the pot first. > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> >I don't really smoke pot myself, but if someone is doing it near me, > >> >>>> >> >I wont complain too much..... > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> It can interfere with ones consumption of alcohol. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> >If not done in the correct manner I am sure it could. So I usually > >> >don't > >> >>>> >take that risk, pluss if I'm ever stoned I just sit there and veg out, > >> >I > >> >>>> >can't move at all. That's not fun at all. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> I know what you mean!! I too just veg out!! and can't drink enough, > >> >>>> that ca't be right, huh? > >> >>> > >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >>> > >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >>asleep. > >> > > >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> > > >> > DaveK > >> > >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > > > >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just > >keep drinking. > > > You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you > don't!!! I do insist. Only if you want too though. I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will never do it first thing in the morning. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Debugging with MMU Enabled Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:11:44 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <973b0g$ng5gc$1@ID-56276.news.dfncis.de> <975h4f$n9m5j$1@ID-56276.news.dfncis.de> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck Kelvin> I therefore have the same problem whether I step through the Kelvin> MMU changeover or just run through it. It seems like as soon Kelvin> as the debugger kicks in with MMU enabled it gets totally Kelvin> "lost". Actually to be a bit more descriptive, I have noticed Kelvin> that when you stop or hit a breakpoint after MMU is enabled, Kelvin> at first you can see the PC is as you would expect. (i.e. not Kelvin> 0) but as soon as you view mem in a memory window, or view Kelvin> source in the source window, or hit the step button Kelvin> etc. _then_ the PC becomes 0, and you can't step any I think Chris Leddy had a good point, Chris> The PPC603 has two exception vector locations, one in high Chris> memory and one in low memory. The MPC860 also has this; that is the PowerPC chip that I have used. However it has a bdm interface, so I don't think that is the chip you are using. I have also seen BDM/Jtag devices exhibit this type of behavior if the interface pins aren't all connected properly. For instance if the vClick wants a RESET line and the hardware doesn't provide this. However, since it does work without MMU this seems less likely especially since you seem to be using an off the shelf board. good luck, Bill... - -- Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:23:16 GMT From: "Kris" Organization: Magma Communications Ltd. Message-ID: References: <96vgsv$h40$1@news.etri.re.kr> <3A938FB6.6080503@snellwilcox.com> Reply-To: "Kris" I found that when I had "???" in your code, the compiler complained that I had trigraph(s), even if the "???" was in a comment. Kris "Simon Farnsworth" wrote in message news:3A938FB6.6080503@snellwilcox.com... > ÃÖâ½Ä wrote: > > > I've met this warning messages from Tornado 1 "xxx.c : warning: 1 > > trigraph(s) encountered" > > > > I don't know the meaning of this warning... -_-; > As it says in the GNU Toolkit manual (or the gcc info pages), trigraphs > are ANSI C's horrible method for handling systems that do not have all > the C special characters. Instead combinations of 3 characters are used, > so %%/ might mean \ (I don't know for certain!) > > GCC is aware that most people don't use trigraphs, so it warns you that > you have entered one. You may find that the code in xxx.c behaves > slightly unexpectedly, as some of what the compiler saw does not match > what you think you typed. > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: VxWorks Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:43:28 GMT From: "Kris" Organization: Magma Communications Ltd. Message-ID: References: <96ders$9gd$1@overload.lbl.gov> Reply-To: "Kris" Here is a good link http://www.smartmodulartech.com/systems/library/docs/vxworks/vxintro/VXINTRO .HTM Kris "Gokul Gopalasamy" wrote in message news:96ders$9gd$1@overload.lbl.gov... > Hi all, > > I'm a beginner in VxWorks. Can anyone suggest me some links or whitepapers regarding > VxWorks. Suggestions will be sincerely appreciated. > > Thanks and Regards > Gokul > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "Have the courage to face the Truth" > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Gokul Gopalasamy, > Global R&D, > Wipro Technologies, > Tel: 91-44-4500200-209 Ext: 2287 > Fax: 91-44-4500250 > Email: gokul.gopalasamy@wipro.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: VxWorks(64 Bit Addition). Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:08:22 -0000 From: "David Laight" Organization: BT Internet Message-ID: <976fn6$i38$1@plutonium.btinternet.com> References: <974v6n$b47$1@overload.lbl.gov> > How to perform addition of 64 bit integers on a 32 bit processor.(MIPS, > R4000). > Can someone pass me code in "C".... Two obvious answers... 1) gcc (usually) supports the type 'long long' which will (typically) be 64bit. for ANSI C "inttypes.h" should define an int64_t (if supported by your compilation system). However I don't recall the vxWorks one being conformant :-) 2) typedef struct { uint32_t hi; uint32_t lo; } my_uint64; #define my_add64( a, b ) \ ((a.lo += b.lo) < b.lo ? a.hi += b.hi + 1 : a.hi += b.hi) This works because a + b < b is only true if the number wrapped. If you do this, it is probably worth making the order of the structure fields match the endianness of your system. (My example is bid-endian - eg 68xxx, not x86.) David --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 07:45:44 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <96t22a$lh1$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoal$qr0$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <6nu59to1omj583nudug86egn9dk8rrnnnu@4ax.com> <96vng7$rln$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <0l889ts97snuhm2g6blquaqp1c7d14kqos@4ax.com> <971a0f$lp0$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974f2k$esl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <9760rf$3jd$8@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:55:57 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:46:03 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:01:22 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:39:20 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:47:17 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:21:05 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:49:51 >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:40:41 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >[snip] >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid cause >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>they are sober. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>He could have a point. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And clearly you have though of them all. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Not all of them, just most. I have got to leave myself something to do >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> What you planning on doing after 20 years? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Ops, I meant to say after the next 20 odd years. >> >> >> >> >> >Well, medically, my body will only be able to keep on drinking >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. So I'm going to have something to >> >> >> >> >> >do after those 20 odd years are up... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> You could just save up for a liver transplant. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Shit. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >Do you realise how much time you just save me >> >> >> >> >with those 9 words? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> One of the benefits of age and experience. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Shit, well I owe you. The first shout is on me. >> >> >> >Though you better print this off and bring it with you for proof as >> >> >> >I will forget and deny most vigioursly that I said it. :) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Nah, I don't care bout teh shouts!! I will just say "liver" over and >> >> >> over til you buy me a drink!!! >> >> > >> >> >That could work, depending on how much I already had already >> >> >had to drink, not enough and you would get your drink. To much >> >> >and I would YELL "FUCK OFF" over and over until you bought >> >> >me 3 rounds. >> >> > >> >> That would work, I am sensitive and I will buy drinks for someone >> >> yelling "FUCK OFF" until they stop! >> > >> >That is very interesting. Though I wouldn't take advantage, after a >> >bit of yelling my throat would get dry. And then I would have to >> >concentrate on the drinking. >> > >> I figure that is teh best way to end teh argument. > >Yep, just agree to shut the fuck up and let the drinking do the talking. >And no, I never played footy. > What? Who said anything about teh footy? And ask Ward for me, what happened to Teh Bombers in teh first round of teh Ansett cup? Port whatever, I don't think so. Are they playing coy? - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 07:46:41 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:42:25 - -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:44:00 >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>alt.usenet.kooks : >> >>>Optional Identity wrote: >>> >>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:31 >>>> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated >>>> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >>>> of alt.usenet.kooks : >>>> >>>> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >>>> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:30 >>>> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>>> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>>> >>alt.usenet.kooks : >>>> >> >>>> >>>Dave Korn wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >>>> >>>> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... >>>> >>>> >Dave Korn wrote: >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >>>> >>>> >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... >>>> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >clever. >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >anywhere. >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live >with. >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >find. >>>> >>>> >> >> > >>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >actually >>>> >get >>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, >you >>>> >>>> don't >>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you >>>> >stop. >>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >hours >>>> >>>> after, >>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >pissed >>>> >>>> while >>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >>>> >>>> >> >> > >>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up >>>> >anyway. >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that >>>> >every >>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >you >>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >vodka >>>> >>>> generally >>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> DaveK >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >set >>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >you >>>> >don't >>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those >>>> >machines >>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do >the >>>> >job >>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> DaveK >>>> >>> >>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >>>> >>> >>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >>>> >> >>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >>>> >>talking about? >>>> > >>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >could see >>>> >were the whites... >>>> > >>>> > DaveK >>>> >>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >>> >>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >>> >>Actually that does work... > >Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > > DaveK Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 07:47:24 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <9760ue$3jd$9@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:57:34 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Dave Korn wrote: > >> Optional Identity wrote in message ... >> >According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:44:00 >> >+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >alt.usenet.kooks : >> > >> >>Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:31 >> >>> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated >> >>> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >> >>> of alt.usenet.kooks : >> >>> >> >>> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >> >>> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:30 >> >>> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >>> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >>> >>alt.usenet.kooks : >> >>> >> >> >>> >>>Dave Korn wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>>> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> >>> >>>> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... >> >>> >>>> >Dave Korn wrote: >> >>> >>>> > >> >>> >>>> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> >>> >>>> >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... >> >>> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> clever. >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> anywhere. >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live >> with. >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> find. >> >>> >>>> >> >> > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> actually >> >>> >get >> >>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, >> you >> >>> >>>> don't >> >>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you >> >>> >stop. >> >>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> hours >> >>> >>>> after, >> >>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> pissed >> >>> >>>> while >> >>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >>> >>>> >> >> > >> >>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up >> >>> >anyway. >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that >> >>> >every >> >>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> you >> >>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> vodka >> >>> >>>> generally >> >>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >>> >>>> > >> >>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> set >> >>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> you >> >>> >don't >> >>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those >> >>> >machines >> >>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do >> the >> >>> >job >> >>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> DaveK >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >>> >> >> >>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >>> >>talking about? >> >>> > >> >>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> could see >> >>> >were the whites... >> >>> > >> >>> > DaveK >> >>> >> >>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >Actually that does work... >> >> Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> DaveK > >Ah shucks DaveK. I really apreciate that. I'm currently finished with >the C&N scotch and am now onto the JD. > You mean you don't start with teh good stuff? - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 07:48:05 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <03jd9tsnetmuod49ioiltk81ac4rq3p1c1@4ax.com> References: <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719qb$ios$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974es3$esl$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97610a$3jd$10@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:58:26 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:42:48 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:58:06 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:34:18 >> >> >> GMT, the Troll JayDee Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:49:12 +1100, STFGP <"goose_fp"@ >> >> >> >pacific.net.au> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally >> >> >> >>> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> DaveK >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set >> >> >> >>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol >> >> >> >vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good >> >> >> > >> >> >> >best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol >> >> >> > >> >> >> >then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous >> >> >> >magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water >> >> >> > >> >> >> >...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya >> >> >> > >> >> >> SUBSCRIBE!!!!! >> >> > >> >> >Um... The posibilities. >> >> > >> >> It is a worry, isn't it? >> > >> >Yes, but it would be interesting to try... >> > >> Sad, but true!!! > >I now have a mission in life. Get with a nice nurse to >try that out... > Everyone needs a hobby. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 07:48:51 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <94jd9t41hsq04q8oiueng236pn6onrq7i3@4ax.com> References: <96uogc$qr0$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <4pu59to7pt81405d5btmkpr97r97hkl776@4ax.com> <96vnia$rln$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9p889tg9s15p15dnq85o12jjrq3co9mlc8@4ax.com> <9719op$ios$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eqj$esl$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <27mb9t4f3qbv2lf5pumit9los46mm6bj3c@4ax.com> <97617h$3jd$11@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:02:17 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:42:01 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:18:41 >> >> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated >> >> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >> >> of alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >> >> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:57:16 >> >> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >>alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >>>Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:40:27 >> >> >>>> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >>>> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >>>> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 >> >> >08:50:21 >> >> >>>> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >>>> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >>>> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 >> >> >17:22:13 >> >> >>>> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated >> >> >this >> >> >>>> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >> >> >of >> >> >>>> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 >> >> >13:52:54 >> >> >>>> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> >> >> >Expectorated this >> >> >>>> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the >> >> >aethyr of >> >> >>>> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >No. We are funny. The only problem being >> >> >that most people >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >are too >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >stupid to get out jokes. It's them that >> >> >need to drink more. >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> I never thought of it that way, but yes, it >> >> >*is* their fault!! >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. >> >> >They are stupid >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >cause >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>they are sober. >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > DaveK >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are >> >> >stupid? >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>He could have a point. >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( DaveK >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >That's nice to know >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's not cool either! >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>Only for a short time, though. >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > Preferably no longer than it takes to open the next >> >> >bottle.... >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> Or hip-flask, if you chance to be at work. >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Or in your slurpie if you are in a dry area.... >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >The cops don't have a clue. :) >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> The old vodka in the fruit salad trick. :) >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >That works too, I got so shit face at my brothers 21st with that >> >> >one. >> >> >>>> >> >> >Oh and the second hand smoke had a part to play. >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> I find when doing both it's best to do the pot first. >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >I don't really smoke pot myself, but if someone is doing it near me, >> >> >>>> >> >I wont complain too much..... >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >>>> >> It can interfere with ones consumption of alcohol. >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> >If not done in the correct manner I am sure it could. So I usually >> >> >don't >> >> >>>> >take that risk, pluss if I'm ever stoned I just sit there and veg out, >> >> >I >> >> >>>> >can't move at all. That's not fun at all. >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> I know what you mean!! I too just veg out!! and can't drink enough, >> >> >>>> that ca't be right, huh? >> >> >>> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >>> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >>asleep. >> >> > >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> > >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> > >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >> >keep drinking. >> > >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> don't!!! > >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >never do it first thing in the morning. > That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 07:50:23 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <96t248$lh1$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uogc$qr0$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <4pu59to7pt81405d5btmkpr97r97hkl776@4ax.com> <96vnia$rln$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9p889tg9s15p15dnq85o12jjrq3co9mlc8@4ax.com> <9719op$ios$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <7Hsl6.559$yi4.518243@newsr1.u-net.net> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:43:57 - -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:18:41 >>-0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated >>this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >>of alt.usenet.kooks : >> >>>Optional Identity wrote in message ... >>>>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:57:16 >>>>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>>>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>>>alt.usenet.kooks : >>>> >>>>>Optional Identity wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:40:27 >>>>>> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>>>>> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>>>>> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>>>> >>>>>> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 >>>08:50:21 >>>>>> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated >this >>>>>> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>>>>> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 >>>17:22:13 >>>>>> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated >>>this >>>>>> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >>>of >>>>>> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 >>>13:52:54 >>>>>> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> >>>Expectorated this >>>>>> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the >>>aethyr of >>>>>> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>>>> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >No. We are funny. The only problem being >>>that most people >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >are too >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >stupid to get out jokes. It's them that >>>need to drink more. >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> > >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> I never thought of it that way, but yes, it >>>*is* their fault!! >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. >>>They are stupid >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >cause >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>they are sober. >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > DaveK >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are >>>stupid? >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>He could have a point. >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( DaveK >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >That's nice to know >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's not cool either! >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >>Only for a short time, though. >>>>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >> >> > Preferably no longer than it takes to open the next >>>bottle.... >>>>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >> >> Or hip-flask, if you chance to be at work. >>>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >> >Or in your slurpie if you are in a dry area.... >>>>>> >> >> >> >The cops don't have a clue. :) >>>>>> >> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >> The old vodka in the fruit salad trick. :) >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> >That works too, I got so shit face at my brothers 21st with >that >>>one. >>>>>> >> >> >Oh and the second hand smoke had a part to play. >>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>> >> >> I find when doing both it's best to do the pot first. >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> >I don't really smoke pot myself, but if someone is doing it near >me, >>>>>> >> >I wont complain too much..... >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> It can interfere with ones consumption of alcohol. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >If not done in the correct manner I am sure it could. So I usually >>>don't >>>>>> >take that risk, pluss if I'm ever stoned I just sit there and veg >out, >>>I >>>>>> >can't move at all. That's not fun at all. >>>>>> > >>>>>> I know what you mean!! I too just veg out!! and can't drink enough, >>>>>> that ca't be right, huh? >>>>> >>>>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >>>>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >>>>> >>>>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >>>>asleep. >>> >>> It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >>>drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >>>passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >>> >>> DaveK >> >>It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >>is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >>cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > > That's Dr. DaveK's all-natural herbal hangover remedy you're talking about >there! > Ah teh patent medicine, who should I make the cheque out to? - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Bad Email Address Purging Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:56:36 -0800 From: Alan Biocca Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20010223085707.00ba62a0@swr.lbl.gov> VxWorks Users Group Exploder Bad Address Purging Periodically we purge bouncing addresses from the Exploder list. We had not done so for a year or so, and the number of bad addresses reached more than 200. Our current policy on the VxWorks list is to periodically purge addresses that we find in the bounce files, after they have earned at least 15 (mostly consecutive) days of bounces. Since we do this once a week or so, it often means they have earned more than 20 days of bounce points before being removed. Each day they bounce, they gain one point (regardless of how many bounces that day). Each day they don't, they lose one point. When the score exceeds 15 they are filtered to a list of bad addresses. Approximately once a week the current daily bad address list is used to reduce the list (if they are still above the 15 point score). There has apparently recently been an issue of an address that we removed from the list that was working, but was sending something back to our server that was scored as a bounce. This is the first time I know of that this has been an issue. I copied part of the users message below, with identity removed, for reference. Auto-Reply Engines Some folks have automatic reply programs set up for vacations, etc. The usual policy for reply programs is ONLY to reply if your own actual address is in the To: field. This avoids replies to lists. Many lists will remove recipients that bounce even once. In addition, auto-replies are normally sent back only once to each distinct address - the address is kept in a list and not replied to again. The list is cleared when the vacation feature is re-enabled for the next trip, when presumably the message has been changed. There are many programs that do auto-reply, and they do not all work the same. Many are configurable (and can be misconfigured), and many are written by folks who don't understand all the issues of mailing lists, etc. I hope that members of the list feel that our policy is reasonable. We get megabytes of bounces, so we cannot look at them, and this simple program is our attempt to keep it under control without expending much effort on the task. If a machine sends us back email 15 days running, there is something not right. We can easily adjust the threshold to a different point value if necessary. Feel free to send comments directly to me (AKBiocca@lbl.gov), or to the list if you wish an open discussion. - -- Alan Biocca VxWorks User Group Mailing List Management > >Thanks for your help. I have a question for you. When I go out of office > >(infrequently but it does happen) I set my [Microsoft Outlook] Out-Of-Office > >Assistant to send back a message to whomever emailed me. It sounds like > >there's a conflict between my need to notify business associates and the > >management of the exploder. > > > >I'm thinking this might be a problem that many people share. Perhaps this is > >an opportunity for the list managers to come up with a policy that meets > >everyone's needs, including your need to minimize list management tasks. > > > >Again, thanks for your help. This list has saved my hours/days of > >frustration! > >... --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: how to develop custom TELNET and FTP? Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:25:50 -0700 From: john horvath Organization: Computer Systems Design Company Message-ID: <3A96F17E.7AA11FAF@chaparralnet.com> Hi, Can you give me any quick advice on how to hook up VxWorks TELNET and FTP to my custom application. I have FTP and TELNET built into VxWorks VBI and I can FTP and TELNET to the box but how do I hook them up to my custom application (ie...I am going to code a text menu interface on TELNET and receive user input, and with FTP I am going to accept firmware updates). It seems like there is a way to define some standard functions, like: AcceptTelnetTask( some params? ) and AcceptFTPTask (some params ?) but all I can find in the documentation is information on starting and stopping the service ( ie...ftpdInit, ftpdDelete, telnetdInit, telnetdDelete)... Thanks! Any Help is Appreciated! John jhorvath@chaparralnet.com email: jhorvath@chaparralnet.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:51:23 GMT From: "iiseull" Organization: Dacom Message-ID: <%HCl6.204$kd4.4773@news2.bora.net> References: <%ekl6.145$kd4.3424@news2.bora.net> <3A95E115.400568AD@flashcom.net> Dear all. Thanks for your help. I used "taskSuspend" to wait signal from "taskResume" from anather task, but not to delay the task itself. What I anxious about is that if a task is in "SUSPENDED" state for "very long time", then the task can not be awake from "SUSPENDED" to "READY" state. Thanks a lot iiseull --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:52:44 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <9773qg$qf8$2@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719qb$ios$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974es3$esl$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97610a$3jd$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <03jd9tsnetmuod49ioiltk81ac4rq3p1c Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:58:26 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:42:48 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:58:06 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:34:18 > >> >> >> GMT, the Troll JayDee Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:49:12 +1100, STFGP <"goose_fp"@ > >> >> >> >pacific.net.au> wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally > >> >> >> >>> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>> DaveK > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set > >> >> >> >>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol > >> >> >> >vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous > >> >> >> >magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> SUBSCRIBE!!!!! > >> >> > > >> >> >Um... The posibilities. > >> >> > > >> >> It is a worry, isn't it? > >> > > >> >Yes, but it would be interesting to try... > >> > > >> Sad, but true!!! > > > >I now have a mission in life. Get with a nice nurse to > >try that out... > > > Everyone needs a hobby. No hobby, it's now the meaning for my existance. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:52:03 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96uogc$qr0$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <4pu59to7pt81405d5btmkpr97r97hkl776@4ax.com> <96vnia$rln$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9p889tg9s15p15dnq85o12jjrq3co9mlc8@4ax.com> <9719op$ios$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eqj$esl$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <27mb9t4f3qbv2lf5pumit9los46mm6bj3c@4ax.com> <97617h$3jd$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <94jd9t41hsq04q8oiueng236pn6 Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:02:17 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:42:01 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:18:41 > >> >> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated > >> >> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > >> >> of alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... > >> >> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:57:16 > >> >> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >>alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >>>Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:40:27 > >> >> >>>> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >>>> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >>>> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 > >> >> >08:50:21 > >> >> >>>> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >>>> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >>>> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >>>> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 > >> >> >17:22:13 > >> >> >>>> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated > >> >> >this > >> >> >>>> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > >> >> >of > >> >> >>>> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 > >> >> >13:52:54 > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > >> >> >Expectorated this > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the > >> >> >aethyr of > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >No. We are funny. The only problem being > >> >> >that most people > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >are too > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >stupid to get out jokes. It's them that > >> >> >need to drink more. > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> > > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> I never thought of it that way, but yes, it > >> >> >*is* their fault!! > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. > >> >> >They are stupid > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >cause > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>they are sober. > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > DaveK > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are > >> >> >stupid? > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>He could have a point. > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( DaveK > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >That's nice to know > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's not cool either! > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > Preferably no longer than it takes to open the next > >> >> >bottle.... > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> Or hip-flask, if you chance to be at work. > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Or in your slurpie if you are in a dry area.... > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >The cops don't have a clue. :) > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> The old vodka in the fruit salad trick. :) > >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >> >> >That works too, I got so shit face at my brothers 21st with that > >> >> >one. > >> >> >>>> >> >> >Oh and the second hand smoke had a part to play. > >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >> >> I find when doing both it's best to do the pot first. > >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >>>> >> >I don't really smoke pot myself, but if someone is doing it near me, > >> >> >>>> >> >I wont complain too much..... > >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >>>> >> It can interfere with ones consumption of alcohol. > >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> >If not done in the correct manner I am sure it could. So I usually > >> >> >don't > >> >> >>>> >take that risk, pluss if I'm ever stoned I just sit there and veg out, > >> >> >I > >> >> >>>> >can't move at all. That's not fun at all. > >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> I know what you mean!! I too just veg out!! and can't drink enough, > >> >> >>>> that ca't be right, huh? > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> > > >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> > > >> >> > DaveK > >> >> > >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> > > >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just > >> >keep drinking. > >> > > >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> don't!!! > > > >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will > >never do it first thing in the morning. > > > That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) Please barman, I want some more... > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:54:07 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <9773td$rgs$1@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <9760ue$3jd$9@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:57:34 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Dave Korn wrote: > > > >> Optional Identity wrote in message ... > >> >According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:44:00 > >> >+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > > >> >>Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:31 > >> >>> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated > >> >>> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > >> >>> of alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >>> > >> >>> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... > >> >>> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:30 > >> >>> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >>> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >>> >>alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >>>Dave Korn wrote: > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>>> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >> >>> >>>> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >> >>> >>>> >Dave Korn wrote: > >> >>> >>>> > > >> >>> >>>> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >> >>> >>>> >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >> >>> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> clever. > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> anywhere. > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live > >> with. > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> find. > >> >>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> actually > >> >>> >get > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, > >> you > >> >>> >>>> don't > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you > >> >>> >stop. > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> hours > >> >>> >>>> after, > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> pissed > >> >>> >>>> while > >> >>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up > >> >>> >anyway. > >> >>> >>>> >> > > >> >>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that > >> >>> >every > >> >>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> you > >> >>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >>> >>>> >> > > >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> vodka > >> >>> >>>> generally > >> >>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >>> >>>> > > >> >>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> set > >> >>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >>> >>>> > >> >>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> you > >> >>> >don't > >> >>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those > >> >>> >machines > >> >>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do > >> the > >> >>> >job > >> >>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. > >> >>> >>>> > >> >>> >>>> DaveK > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >>> >>talking about? > >> >>> > > >> >>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> could see > >> >>> >were the whites... > >> >>> > > >> >>> > DaveK > >> >>> > >> >>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> > >> >>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> > >> >Actually that does work... > >> > >> Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> > >> DaveK > > > >Ah shucks DaveK. I really apreciate that. I'm currently finished with > >the C&N scotch and am now onto the JD. > > > You mean you don't start with teh good stuff? Nah, I work my way up to it. If I started with JD, then went to C&N when I ran out of JD it would ruin the whole experience. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:55:44 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97740c$rgs$2@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:42:25 > -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated > this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > of alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote in message ... > >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:44:00 > >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >>alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >>>Optional Identity wrote: > >>> > >>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:31 > >>>> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated > >>>> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > >>>> of alt.usenet.kooks : > >>>> > >>>> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... > >>>> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:30 > >>>> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >>>> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >>>> >>alt.usenet.kooks : > >>>> >> > >>>> >>>Dave Korn wrote: > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >>>> >>>> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >>>> >>>> >Dave Korn wrote: > >>>> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >>>> >>>> >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >>>> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >clever. > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >anywhere. > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live > >with. > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >find. > >>>> >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >actually > >>>> >get > >>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, > >you > >>>> >>>> don't > >>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you > >>>> >stop. > >>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >hours > >>>> >>>> after, > >>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >pissed > >>>> >>>> while > >>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >>>> >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up > >>>> >anyway. > >>>> >>>> >> > > >>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that > >>>> >every > >>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >you > >>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >>>> >>>> >> > > >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >vodka > >>>> >>>> generally > >>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >>>> >>>> >> > >>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >>>> >>>> > > >>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >set > >>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >you > >>>> >don't > >>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those > >>>> >machines > >>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do > >the > >>>> >job > >>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. > >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> DaveK > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >>>> >> > >>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >>>> >>talking about? > >>>> > > >>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >could see > >>>> >were the whites... > >>>> > > >>>> > DaveK > >>>> > >>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >>> > >>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >>> > >>Actually that does work... > > > >Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > > > > DaveK > > Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too pissed to clean his mess up. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:57:58 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <977446$rgs$3@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96t22a$lh1$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoal$qr0$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <6nu59to1omj583nudug86egn9dk8rrnnnu@4ax.com> <96vng7$rln$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <0l889ts97snuhm2g6blquaqp1c7d14kqos@4ax.com> <971a0f$lp0$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974f2k$esl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <9760rf$3jd$8@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:55:57 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:46:03 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:01:22 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:39:20 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:47:17 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:21:05 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:49:51 > >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:40:41 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >[snip] > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid cause > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>they are sober. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>He could have a point. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And clearly you have though of them all. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Not all of them, just most. I have got to leave myself something to do > >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> What you planning on doing after 20 years? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Ops, I meant to say after the next 20 odd years. > >> >> >> >> >> >Well, medically, my body will only be able to keep on drinking > >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. So I'm going to have something to > >> >> >> >> >> >do after those 20 odd years are up... > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> You could just save up for a liver transplant. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Shit. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >Do you realise how much time you just save me > >> >> >> >> >with those 9 words? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> One of the benefits of age and experience. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Shit, well I owe you. The first shout is on me. > >> >> >> >Though you better print this off and bring it with you for proof as > >> >> >> >I will forget and deny most vigioursly that I said it. :) > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Nah, I don't care bout teh shouts!! I will just say "liver" over and > >> >> >> over til you buy me a drink!!! > >> >> > > >> >> >That could work, depending on how much I already had already > >> >> >had to drink, not enough and you would get your drink. To much > >> >> >and I would YELL "FUCK OFF" over and over until you bought > >> >> >me 3 rounds. > >> >> > > >> >> That would work, I am sensitive and I will buy drinks for someone > >> >> yelling "FUCK OFF" until they stop! > >> > > >> >That is very interesting. Though I wouldn't take advantage, after a > >> >bit of yelling my throat would get dry. And then I would have to > >> >concentrate on the drinking. > >> > > >> I figure that is teh best way to end teh argument. > > > >Yep, just agree to shut the fuck up and let the drinking do the talking. > >And no, I never played footy. > > > What? Who said anything about teh footy? And ask Ward for me, what > happened to Teh Bombers in teh first round of teh Ansett cup? Port > whatever, I don't think so. Are they playing coy? No, I don't think they are, cause they just got beaten by Geelong. HAHAHA. I think Ward has gone camping. But I will ask him when he gets back. My quote 'let the drinking do the talking' was a rip off of a bad quote that fighters and football players use when talking about football. I though you might have recognised it. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: problem booting target Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:38:06 +0100 From: Ismael =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lav=EDn=20Herr=E1n?= Organization: Universidad de Valladolid - Spain Message-ID: <3A9691EE.6D9751D8@alumnos.uva.es> I have a problem booting my target (ix86), I've created a boot disk and when I'm trying boot in the screen appear: muxLoad failed!. Could anybody help me? Thanks in advance. --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:29:01 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <96uoal$qr0$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <6nu59to1omj583nudug86egn9dk8rrnnnu@4ax.com> <96vng7$rln$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <0l889ts97snuhm2g6blquaqp1c7d14kqos@4ax.com> <971a0f$lp0$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974f2k$esl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <9760rf$3jd$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <977446$rgs$3@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:57:58 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:55:57 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:46:03 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:01:22 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:39:20 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:47:17 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:21:05 >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:49:51 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:40:41 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >[snip] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid cause >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>they are sober. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>He could have a point. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And clearly you have though of them all. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Not all of them, just most. I have got to leave myself something to do >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What you planning on doing after 20 years? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ops, I meant to say after the next 20 odd years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, medically, my body will only be able to keep on drinking >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. So I'm going to have something to >> >> >> >> >> >> >do after those 20 odd years are up... >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> You could just save up for a liver transplant. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Shit. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >Do you realise how much time you just save me >> >> >> >> >> >with those 9 words? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> One of the benefits of age and experience. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Shit, well I owe you. The first shout is on me. >> >> >> >> >Though you better print this off and bring it with you for proof as >> >> >> >> >I will forget and deny most vigioursly that I said it. :) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Nah, I don't care bout teh shouts!! I will just say "liver" over and >> >> >> >> over til you buy me a drink!!! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >That could work, depending on how much I already had already >> >> >> >had to drink, not enough and you would get your drink. To much >> >> >> >and I would YELL "FUCK OFF" over and over until you bought >> >> >> >me 3 rounds. >> >> >> > >> >> >> That would work, I am sensitive and I will buy drinks for someone >> >> >> yelling "FUCK OFF" until they stop! >> >> > >> >> >That is very interesting. Though I wouldn't take advantage, after a >> >> >bit of yelling my throat would get dry. And then I would have to >> >> >concentrate on the drinking. >> >> > >> >> I figure that is teh best way to end teh argument. >> > >> >Yep, just agree to shut the fuck up and let the drinking do the talking. >> >And no, I never played footy. >> > >> What? Who said anything about teh footy? And ask Ward for me, what >> happened to Teh Bombers in teh first round of teh Ansett cup? Port >> whatever, I don't think so. Are they playing coy? > >No, I don't think they are, cause they just got beaten by Geelong. HAHAHA. >I think Ward has gone camping. But I will ask him when he gets back. >My quote 'let the drinking do the talking' was a rip off of a bad quote that fighters >and football players use when talking about football. I though you might have >recognised it. > Nah, missed that one, nevermind. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:29:45 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <9760ue$3jd$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <9773td$rgs$1@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:54:07 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:57:34 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: >> > >> >> Optional Identity wrote in message ... >> >> >According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:44:00 >> >> >+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> > >> >> >>Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:31 >> >> >>> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated >> >> >>> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >> >> >>> of alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >> >> >>> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:30 >> >> >>> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >>> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >>> >>alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>>Dave Korn wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>>> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> >> >>> >>>> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... >> >> >>> >>>> >Dave Korn wrote: >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >>> >>>> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> >> >>> >>>> >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... >> >> >>> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> clever. >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> anywhere. >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live >> >> with. >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> find. >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> actually >> >> >>> >get >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, >> >> you >> >> >>> >>>> don't >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you >> >> >>> >stop. >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> hours >> >> >>> >>>> after, >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> pissed >> >> >>> >>>> while >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up >> >> >>> >anyway. >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that >> >> >>> >every >> >> >>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> you >> >> >>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> vodka >> >> >>> >>>> generally >> >> >>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> set >> >> >>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> you >> >> >>> >don't >> >> >>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those >> >> >>> >machines >> >> >>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do >> >> the >> >> >>> >job >> >> >>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >>> >>talking about? >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> could see >> >> >>> >were the whites... >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > DaveK >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >> >> >>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >> >> >Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> DaveK >> > >> >Ah shucks DaveK. I really apreciate that. I'm currently finished with >> >the C&N scotch and am now onto the JD. >> > >> You mean you don't start with teh good stuff? > >Nah, I work my way up to it. If I started with JD, then went to C&N when >I ran out of JD it would ruin the whole experience. > Almost as much as actually sobering up would ruin the experience? - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:30:57 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <97740c$rgs$2@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:55:44 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:42:25 >> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated >> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >> of alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:44:00 >> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >>alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >>>Optional Identity wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:31 >> >>>> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated >> >>>> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >> >>>> of alt.usenet.kooks : >> >>>> >> >>>> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >> >>>> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:30 >> >>>> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >>>> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >>>> >>alt.usenet.kooks : >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>Dave Korn wrote: >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>>> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> >>>> >>>> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... >> >>>> >>>> >Dave Korn wrote: >> >>>> >>>> > >> >>>> >>>> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> >>>> >>>> >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... >> >>>> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >clever. >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >anywhere. >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live >> >with. >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >find. >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >actually >> >>>> >get >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, >> >you >> >>>> >>>> don't >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you >> >>>> >stop. >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >hours >> >>>> >>>> after, >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >pissed >> >>>> >>>> while >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up >> >>>> >anyway. >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that >> >>>> >every >> >>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >you >> >>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >vodka >> >>>> >>>> generally >> >>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >>>> >>>> > >> >>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >set >> >>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >you >> >>>> >don't >> >>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those >> >>>> >machines >> >>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do >> >the >> >>>> >job >> >>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> DaveK >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >>>> >>talking about? >> >>>> > >> >>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >could see >> >>>> >were the whites... >> >>>> > >> >>>> > DaveK >> >>>> >> >>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >>> >> >>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >>> >> >>Actually that does work... >> > >> >Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> > >> > DaveK >> >> Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too >pissed to clean his mess up. > That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the worst! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:31:38 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <677e9tg3o9enm8va3fc8icgr9kbmk0bouf@4ax.com> References: <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719qb$ios$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974es3$esl$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97610a$3jd$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <03jd9tsnetmuod49ioiltk81ac4rq3p1c1@4ax.com> <9773qg$qf8$2@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:52:44 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:58:26 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:42:48 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:58:06 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:34:18 >> >> >> >> GMT, the Troll JayDee Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:49:12 +1100, STFGP <"goose_fp"@ >> >> >> >> >pacific.net.au> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally >> >> >> >> >>> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> DaveK >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set >> >> >> >> >>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol >> >> >> >> >vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous >> >> >> >> >magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> SUBSCRIBE!!!!! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Um... The posibilities. >> >> >> > >> >> >> It is a worry, isn't it? >> >> > >> >> >Yes, but it would be interesting to try... >> >> > >> >> Sad, but true!!! >> > >> >I now have a mission in life. Get with a nice nurse to >> >try that out... >> > >> Everyone needs a hobby. > >No hobby, it's now the meaning for my existance. > I went out with a nurse for a while, she was nice too... - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:32:15 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <96vnia$rln$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9p889tg9s15p15dnq85o12jjrq3co9mlc8@4ax.com> <9719op$ios$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eqj$esl$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <27mb9t4f3qbv2lf5pumit9los46mm6bj3c@4ax.com> <97617h$3jd$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <94jd9t41hsq04q8oiueng236pn6onrq7i3@4ax.com> <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:52:03 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:02:17 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:42:01 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:18:41 >> >> >> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated >> >> >> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >> >> >> of alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >> >> >> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:57:16 >> >> >> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >>alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:40:27 >> >> >> >>>> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >>>> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >>>> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 >> >> >> >08:50:21 >> >> >> >>>> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >>>> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >>>> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 >> >> >> >17:22:13 >> >> >> >>>> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated >> >> >> >this >> >> >> >>>> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >> >> >> >of >> >> >> >>>> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 >> >> >> >13:52:54 >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> >> >> >> >Expectorated this >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the >> >> >> >aethyr of >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >No. We are funny. The only problem being >> >> >> >that most people >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >are too >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >stupid to get out jokes. It's them that >> >> >> >need to drink more. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> I never thought of it that way, but yes, it >> >> >> >*is* their fault!! >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. >> >> >> >They are stupid >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >cause >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>they are sober. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > DaveK >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are >> >> >> >stupid? >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>He could have a point. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > Preferably no longer than it takes to open the next >> >> >> >bottle.... >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> Or hip-flask, if you chance to be at work. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Or in your slurpie if you are in a dry area.... >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >The cops don't have a clue. :) >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> The old vodka in the fruit salad trick. :) >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >That works too, I got so shit face at my brothers 21st with that >> >> >> >one. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >Oh and the second hand smoke had a part to play. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> I find when doing both it's best to do the pot first. >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >I don't really smoke pot myself, but if someone is doing it near me, >> >> >> >>>> >> >I wont complain too much..... >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> It can interfere with ones consumption of alcohol. >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> >If not done in the correct manner I am sure it could. So I usually >> >> >> >don't >> >> >> >>>> >take that risk, pluss if I'm ever stoned I just sit there and veg out, >> >> >> >I >> >> >> >>>> >can't move at all. That's not fun at all. >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> I know what you mean!! I too just veg out!! and can't drink enough, >> >> >> >>>> that ca't be right, huh? >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> >> > >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> > >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> > >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> >> don't!!! >> > >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> > >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >Please barman, I want some more... > Don't mind if I do... - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:41:24 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96vnia$rln$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9p889tg9s15p15dnq85o12jjrq3co9mlc8@4ax.com> <9719op$ios$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eqj$esl$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <27mb9t4f3qbv2lf5pumit9los46mm6bj3c@4ax.com> <97617h$3jd$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <94jd9t41hsq04q8oiueng236pn6onrq7i3@4ax.com> <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:52:03 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:02:17 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:42:01 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:18:41 > >> >> >> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated > >> >> >> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > >> >> >> of alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... > >> >> >> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:57:16 > >> >> >> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >>alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:40:27 > >> >> >> >>>> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >>>> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >>>> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 > >> >> >> >08:50:21 > >> >> >> >>>> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >>>> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >>>> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 > >> >> >> >17:22:13 > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated > >> >> >> >this > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > >> >> >> >of > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 > >> >> >> >13:52:54 > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > >> >> >> >Expectorated this > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the > >> >> >> >aethyr of > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >No. We are funny. The only problem being > >> >> >> >that most people > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >are too > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >stupid to get out jokes. It's them that > >> >> >> >need to drink more. > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> I never thought of it that way, but yes, it > >> >> >> >*is* their fault!! > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. > >> >> >> >They are stupid > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >cause > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>they are sober. > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are > >> >> >> >stupid? > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>He could have a point. > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > Preferably no longer than it takes to open the next > >> >> >> >bottle.... > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> Or hip-flask, if you chance to be at work. > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Or in your slurpie if you are in a dry area.... > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >The cops don't have a clue. :) > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> The old vodka in the fruit salad trick. :) > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >That works too, I got so shit face at my brothers 21st with that > >> >> >> >one. > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >Oh and the second hand smoke had a part to play. > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> I find when doing both it's best to do the pot first. > >> >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >I don't really smoke pot myself, but if someone is doing it near me, > >> >> >> >>>> >> >I wont complain too much..... > >> >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> It can interfere with ones consumption of alcohol. > >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >>>> >If not done in the correct manner I am sure it could. So I usually > >> >> >> >don't > >> >> >> >>>> >take that risk, pluss if I'm ever stoned I just sit there and veg out, > >> >> >> >I > >> >> >> >>>> >can't move at all. That's not fun at all. > >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >>>> I know what you mean!! I too just veg out!! and can't drink enough, > >> >> >> >>>> that ca't be right, huh? > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> > >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> > > >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just > >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> > > >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> >> don't!!! > >> > > >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will > >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> > > >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > > > >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >Please barman, I want some more... > > > Don't mind if I do... Well, while your there... > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:42:17 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <9776np$i0c$2@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719qb$ios$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974es3$esl$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97610a$3jd$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <03jd9tsnetmuod49ioiltk81ac4rq3p1c1@4ax.com> <9773qg$qf8$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <677e9tg3o9enm8va3fc8icgr9kbmk0bou Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:52:44 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:58:26 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:42:48 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:58:06 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:34:18 > >> >> >> >> GMT, the Troll JayDee Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:49:12 +1100, STFGP <"goose_fp"@ > >> >> >> >> >pacific.net.au> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally > >> >> >> >> >>> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set > >> >> >> >> >>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol > >> >> >> >> >vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous > >> >> >> >> >magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> SUBSCRIBE!!!!! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Um... The posibilities. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> It is a worry, isn't it? > >> >> > > >> >> >Yes, but it would be interesting to try... > >> >> > > >> >> Sad, but true!!! > >> > > >> >I now have a mission in life. Get with a nice nurse to > >> >try that out... > >> > > >> Everyone needs a hobby. > > > >No hobby, it's now the meaning for my existance. > > > I went out with a nurse for a while, she was nice too... Did she, like change your sheets, fluf your pillow and all that stuf? > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:43:23 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <9776po$i0c$3@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <97740c$rgs$2@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:55:44 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:42:25 > >> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated > >> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > >> of alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... > >> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:44:00 > >> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >>alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >>>Optional Identity wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:31 > >> >>>> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated > >> >>>> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > >> >>>> of alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >>>> > >> >>>> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... > >> >>>> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:30 > >> >>>> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >>>> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >>>> >>alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >>>Dave Korn wrote: > >> >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>>> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >> >>>> >>>> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >> >>>> >>>> >Dave Korn wrote: > >> >>>> >>>> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >> >>>> >>>> >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >> >>>> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >clever. > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >anywhere. > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live > >> >with. > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >find. > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >actually > >> >>>> >get > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, > >> >you > >> >>>> >>>> don't > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you > >> >>>> >stop. > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >hours > >> >>>> >>>> after, > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >pissed > >> >>>> >>>> while > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up > >> >>>> >anyway. > >> >>>> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that > >> >>>> >every > >> >>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >you > >> >>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >>>> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >vodka > >> >>>> >>>> generally > >> >>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >>>> >>>> > > >> >>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >set > >> >>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >>>> >>>> > >> >>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >you > >> >>>> >don't > >> >>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those > >> >>>> >machines > >> >>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do > >> >the > >> >>>> >job > >> >>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. > >> >>>> >>>> > >> >>>> >>>> DaveK > >> >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >>>> >>> > >> >>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >>>> >>talking about? > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >could see > >> >>>> >were the whites... > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > DaveK > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >>> > >> >>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >>> > >> >>Actually that does work... > >> > > >> >Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> > > >> > DaveK > >> > >> Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > > > >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got > >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this > >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too > >pissed to clean his mess up. > > > That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the > worst! I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:44:54 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <9776s9$i0c$4@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <9760ue$3jd$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <9773td$rgs$1@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:54:07 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:57:34 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Dave Korn wrote: > >> > > >> >> Optional Identity wrote in message ... > >> >> >According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:44:00 > >> >> >+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > > >> >> >>Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:31 > >> >> >>> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated > >> >> >>> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > >> >> >>> of alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... > >> >> >>> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:30 > >> >> >>> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >>> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >>> >>alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >>>Dave Korn wrote: > >> >> >>> >>> > >> >> >>> >>>> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >> >> >>> >>>> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >> >> >>> >>>> >Dave Korn wrote: > >> >> >>> >>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >> >> >>> >>>> >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> clever. > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> anywhere. > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live > >> >> with. > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> find. > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> actually > >> >> >>> >get > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, > >> >> you > >> >> >>> >>>> don't > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you > >> >> >>> >stop. > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> hours > >> >> >>> >>>> after, > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> pissed > >> >> >>> >>>> while > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up > >> >> >>> >anyway. > >> >> >>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that > >> >> >>> >every > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> you > >> >> >>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> vodka > >> >> >>> >>>> generally > >> >> >>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >>> >>>> > > >> >> >>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> set > >> >> >>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> you > >> >> >>> >don't > >> >> >>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those > >> >> >>> >machines > >> >> >>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do > >> >> the > >> >> >>> >job > >> >> >>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. > >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >>> >>> > >> >> >>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >>> >>> > >> >> >>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >>> >>talking about? > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> could see > >> >> >>> >were the whites... > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > DaveK > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >> > >> >> >>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >> > >> >> >Actually that does work... > >> >> > >> >> Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> > >> >> DaveK > >> > > >> >Ah shucks DaveK. I really apreciate that. I'm currently finished with > >> >the C&N scotch and am now onto the JD. > >> > > >> You mean you don't start with teh good stuff? > > > >Nah, I work my way up to it. If I started with JD, then went to C&N when > >I ran out of JD it would ruin the whole experience. > > > Almost as much as actually sobering up would ruin the experience? Yeah, so last night, I started off C&N and then at the end of the night I had a few quiet JD's and it was nice... > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:46:15 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <9776v3$i0c$5@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96uoal$qr0$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <6nu59to1omj583nudug86egn9dk8rrnnnu@4ax.com> <96vng7$rln$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <0l889ts97snuhm2g6blquaqp1c7d14kqos@4ax.com> <971a0f$lp0$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974f2k$esl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <9760rf$3jd$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <977446$rgs$3@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:57:58 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:55:57 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:46:03 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:01:22 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:39:20 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:47:17 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:21:05 > >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:49:51 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:40:41 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >[snip] > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid cause > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>they are sober. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>He could have a point. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And clearly you have though of them all. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Not all of them, just most. I have got to leave myself something to do > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What you planning on doing after 20 years? > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ops, I meant to say after the next 20 odd years. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, medically, my body will only be able to keep on drinking > >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. So I'm going to have something to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >do after those 20 odd years are up... > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> You could just save up for a liver transplant. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Shit. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >Do you realise how much time you just save me > >> >> >> >> >> >with those 9 words? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> One of the benefits of age and experience. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Shit, well I owe you. The first shout is on me. > >> >> >> >> >Though you better print this off and bring it with you for proof as > >> >> >> >> >I will forget and deny most vigioursly that I said it. :) > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Nah, I don't care bout teh shouts!! I will just say "liver" over and > >> >> >> >> over til you buy me a drink!!! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >That could work, depending on how much I already had already > >> >> >> >had to drink, not enough and you would get your drink. To much > >> >> >> >and I would YELL "FUCK OFF" over and over until you bought > >> >> >> >me 3 rounds. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> That would work, I am sensitive and I will buy drinks for someone > >> >> >> yelling "FUCK OFF" until they stop! > >> >> > > >> >> >That is very interesting. Though I wouldn't take advantage, after a > >> >> >bit of yelling my throat would get dry. And then I would have to > >> >> >concentrate on the drinking. > >> >> > > >> >> I figure that is teh best way to end teh argument. > >> > > >> >Yep, just agree to shut the fuck up and let the drinking do the talking. > >> >And no, I never played footy. > >> > > >> What? Who said anything about teh footy? And ask Ward for me, what > >> happened to Teh Bombers in teh first round of teh Ansett cup? Port > >> whatever, I don't think so. Are they playing coy? > > > >No, I don't think they are, cause they just got beaten by Geelong. HAHAHA. > >I think Ward has gone camping. But I will ask him when he gets back. > >My quote 'let the drinking do the talking' was a rip off of a bad quote that fighters > >and football players use when talking about football. I though you might have > >recognised it. > > > Nah, missed that one, nevermind. Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards and give him shit about the dive bombers. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:20:01 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <32ae9t4vdf1l1ipgn5k22onmvvk8d5uabm@4ax.com> References: <96vng7$rln$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <0l889ts97snuhm2g6blquaqp1c7d14kqos@4ax.com> <971a0f$lp0$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974f2k$esl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <9760rf$3jd$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <977446$rgs$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776v3$i0c$5@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:46:15 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:57:58 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:55:57 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:46:03 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:01:22 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:39:20 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:47:17 >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:21:05 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:49:51 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:40:41 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >[snip] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid cause >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>they are sober. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>He could have a point. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And clearly you have though of them all. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Not all of them, just most. I have got to leave myself something to do >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What you planning on doing after 20 years? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ops, I meant to say after the next 20 odd years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, medically, my body will only be able to keep on drinking >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. So I'm going to have something to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >do after those 20 odd years are up... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You could just save up for a liver transplant. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Shit. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >Do you realise how much time you just save me >> >> >> >> >> >> >with those 9 words? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> One of the benefits of age and experience. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Shit, well I owe you. The first shout is on me. >> >> >> >> >> >Though you better print this off and bring it with you for proof as >> >> >> >> >> >I will forget and deny most vigioursly that I said it. :) >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Nah, I don't care bout teh shouts!! I will just say "liver" over and >> >> >> >> >> over til you buy me a drink!!! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >That could work, depending on how much I already had already >> >> >> >> >had to drink, not enough and you would get your drink. To much >> >> >> >> >and I would YELL "FUCK OFF" over and over until you bought >> >> >> >> >me 3 rounds. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> That would work, I am sensitive and I will buy drinks for someone >> >> >> >> yelling "FUCK OFF" until they stop! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >That is very interesting. Though I wouldn't take advantage, after a >> >> >> >bit of yelling my throat would get dry. And then I would have to >> >> >> >concentrate on the drinking. >> >> >> > >> >> >> I figure that is teh best way to end teh argument. >> >> > >> >> >Yep, just agree to shut the fuck up and let the drinking do the talking. >> >> >And no, I never played footy. >> >> > >> >> What? Who said anything about teh footy? And ask Ward for me, what >> >> happened to Teh Bombers in teh first round of teh Ansett cup? Port >> >> whatever, I don't think so. Are they playing coy? >> > >> >No, I don't think they are, cause they just got beaten by Geelong. HAHAHA. >> >I think Ward has gone camping. But I will ask him when he gets back. >> >My quote 'let the drinking do the talking' was a rip off of a bad quote that fighters >> >and football players use when talking about football. I though you might have >> >recognised it. >> > >> Nah, missed that one, nevermind. > >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards >and give him shit about the dive bombers. > Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:21:02 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <53ae9t4cpjp2hvecq02oo0katra3chdqou@4ax.com> References: <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <9760ue$3jd$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <9773td$rgs$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776s9$i0c$4@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:44:54 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:54:07 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:57:34 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Optional Identity wrote in message ... >> >> >> >According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:44:00 >> >> >> >+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:31 >> >> >> >>> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated >> >> >> >>> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >> >> >> >>> of alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >> >> >> >>> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:30 >> >> >> >>> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >>> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >>> >>alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>Dave Korn wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>>> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> >> >> >>> >>>> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... >> >> >> >>> >>>> >Dave Korn wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> clever. >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> anywhere. >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live >> >> >> with. >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> find. >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> actually >> >> >> >>> >get >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, >> >> >> you >> >> >> >>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you >> >> >> >>> >stop. >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> hours >> >> >> >>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> pissed >> >> >> >>> >>>> while >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up >> >> >> >>> >anyway. >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that >> >> >> >>> >every >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> you >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> vodka >> >> >> >>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> set >> >> >> >>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> you >> >> >> >>> >don't >> >> >> >>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those >> >> >> >>> >machines >> >> >> >>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do >> >> >> the >> >> >> >>> >job >> >> >> >>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> could see >> >> >> >>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > DaveK >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> >> >> Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> > >> >> >Ah shucks DaveK. I really apreciate that. I'm currently finished with >> >> >the C&N scotch and am now onto the JD. >> >> > >> >> You mean you don't start with teh good stuff? >> > >> >Nah, I work my way up to it. If I started with JD, then went to C&N when >> >I ran out of JD it would ruin the whole experience. >> > >> Almost as much as actually sobering up would ruin the experience? > >Yeah, so last night, I started off C&N and then at the end of the >night I had a few quiet JD's and it was nice... > I can see your point, its just that I like the first two to taste nice, then when I am pissed I don't care anymore. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:22:27 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <35ae9top89tlu9ksp0bqo13tr8066m3fh6@4ax.com> References: <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <97740c$rgs$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776po$i0c$3@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:43:23 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:55:44 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:42:25 >> >> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated >> >> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >> >> of alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >> >> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:44:00 >> >> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >>alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >>>Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:31 >> >> >>>> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated >> >> >>>> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >> >> >>>> of alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >> >> >>>> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:30 >> >> >>>> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >>>> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >>>> >>alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >>>Dave Korn wrote: >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>>> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> >> >>>> >>>> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... >> >> >>>> >>>> >Dave Korn wrote: >> >> >>>> >>>> > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> >> >>>> >>>> >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >clever. >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >anywhere. >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live >> >> >with. >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >find. >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >actually >> >> >>>> >get >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, >> >> >you >> >> >>>> >>>> don't >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you >> >> >>>> >stop. >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >hours >> >> >>>> >>>> after, >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >pissed >> >> >>>> >>>> while >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up >> >> >>>> >anyway. >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that >> >> >>>> >every >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >you >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >vodka >> >> >>>> >>>> generally >> >> >>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >>>> >>>> > >> >> >>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >set >> >> >>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >you >> >> >>>> >don't >> >> >>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those >> >> >>>> >machines >> >> >>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do >> >> >the >> >> >>>> >job >> >> >>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >>>> >>talking about? >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >could see >> >> >>>> >were the whites... >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > DaveK >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >>> >> >> >>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >>> >> >> >>Actually that does work... >> >> > >> >> >Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> > >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! >> > >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too >> >pissed to clean his mess up. >> > >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the >> worst! > >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. > Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:23:14 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <9719qb$ios$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974es3$esl$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97610a$3jd$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <03jd9tsnetmuod49ioiltk81ac4rq3p1c1@4ax.com> <9773qg$qf8$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <677e9tg3o9enm8va3fc8icgr9kbmk0bouf@4ax.com> <9776np$i0c$2@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:42:17 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:52:44 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:58:26 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:42:48 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:58:06 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:34:18 >> >> >> >> >> GMT, the Troll JayDee Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:49:12 +1100, STFGP <"goose_fp"@ >> >> >> >> >> >pacific.net.au> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally >> >> >> >> >> >>> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >> >>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set >> >> >> >> >> >>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol >> >> >> >> >> >vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous >> >> >> >> >> >magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> SUBSCRIBE!!!!! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Um... The posibilities. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> It is a worry, isn't it? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Yes, but it would be interesting to try... >> >> >> > >> >> >> Sad, but true!!! >> >> > >> >> >I now have a mission in life. Get with a nice nurse to >> >> >try that out... >> >> > >> >> Everyone needs a hobby. >> > >> >No hobby, it's now the meaning for my existance. >> > >> I went out with a nurse for a while, she was nice too... > >Did she, like change your sheets, fluf your pillow and all that stuf? > And gave the bestest head, don't know why I let her go, really. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:23:37 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> References: <9719op$ios$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eqj$esl$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <27mb9t4f3qbv2lf5pumit9los46mm6bj3c@4ax.com> <97617h$3jd$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <94jd9t41hsq04q8oiueng236pn6onrq7i3@4ax.com> <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:41:24 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:52:03 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:02:17 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:42:01 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:18:41 >> >> >> >> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated >> >> >> >> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >> >> >> >> of alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >> >> >> >> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:57:16 >> >> >> >> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >>alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:40:27 >> >> >> >> >>>> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >>>> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >>>> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 21 Feb 2001 >> >> >> >> >08:50:21 >> >> >> >> >>>> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >>>> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >>>> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 >> >> >> >> >17:22:13 >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated >> >> >> >> >this >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >> >> >> >> >of >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 >> >> >> >> >13:52:54 >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> >> >> >> >> >Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the >> >> >> >> >aethyr of >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >No. We are funny. The only problem being >> >> >> >> >that most people >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >are too >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> >stupid to get out jokes. It's them that >> >> >> >> >need to drink more. >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>> I never thought of it that way, but yes, it >> >> >> >> >*is* their fault!! >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. >> >> >> >> >They are stupid >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >cause >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >>they are sober. >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are >> >> >> >> >stupid? >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:(>He could have a point. >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > Preferably no longer than it takes to open the next >> >> >> >> >bottle.... >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> Or hip-flask, if you chance to be at work. >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Or in your slurpie if you are in a dry area.... >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >The cops don't have a clue. :) >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> The old vodka in the fruit salad trick. :) >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >That works too, I got so shit face at my brothers 21st with that >> >> >> >> >one. >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >Oh and the second hand smoke had a part to play. >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> I find when doing both it's best to do the pot first. >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >I don't really smoke pot myself, but if someone is doing it near me, >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >I wont complain too much..... >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> It can interfere with ones consumption of alcohol. >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >If not done in the correct manner I am sure it could. So I usually >> >> >> >> >don't >> >> >> >> >>>> >take that risk, pluss if I'm ever stoned I just sit there and veg out, >> >> >> >> >I >> >> >> >> >>>> >can't move at all. That's not fun at all. >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> I know what you mean!! I too just veg out!! and can't drink enough, >> >> >> >> >>>> that ca't be right, huh? >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> > >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> > >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> > >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> > >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> > >> Don't mind if I do... > >Well, while your there... > Double be ok? - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:58:40 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <977b6n$n4g$1@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <96vng7$rln$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <0l889ts97snuhm2g6blquaqp1c7d14kqos@4ax.com> <971a0f$lp0$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974f2k$esl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <9760rf$3jd$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <977446$rgs$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776v3$i0c$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <32ae9t4vdf1l1ipgn5k22onmvvk Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid cause > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>they are sober. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>He could have a point. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And clearly you have though of them all. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Not all of them, just most. I have got to leave myself something to do > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What you planning on doing after 20 years? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ops, I meant to say after the next 20 odd years. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, medically, my body will only be able to keep on drinking > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. So I'm going to have something to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >do after those 20 odd years are up... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You could just save up for a liver transplant. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Shit. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Do you realise how much time you just save me > >> >> >> >> >> >> >with those 9 words? > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> One of the benefits of age and experience. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Shit, well I owe you. The first shout is on me. > >> >> >> >> >> >Though you better print this off and bring it with you for proof as > >> >> >> >> >> >I will forget and deny most vigioursly that I said it. :) > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Nah, I don't care bout teh shouts!! I will just say "liver" over and > >> >> >> >> >> over til you buy me a drink!!! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >That could work, depending on how much I already had already > >> >> >> >> >had to drink, not enough and you would get your drink. To much > >> >> >> >> >and I would YELL "FUCK OFF" over and over until you bought > >> >> >> >> >me 3 rounds. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> That would work, I am sensitive and I will buy drinks for someone > >> >> >> >> yelling "FUCK OFF" until they stop! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >That is very interesting. Though I wouldn't take advantage, after a > >> >> >> >bit of yelling my throat would get dry. And then I would have to > >> >> >> >concentrate on the drinking. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> I figure that is teh best way to end teh argument. > >> >> > > >> >> >Yep, just agree to shut the fuck up and let the drinking do the talking. > >> >> >And no, I never played footy. > >> >> > > >> >> What? Who said anything about teh footy? And ask Ward for me, what > >> >> happened to Teh Bombers in teh first round of teh Ansett cup? Port > >> >> whatever, I don't think so. Are they playing coy? > >> > > >> >No, I don't think they are, cause they just got beaten by Geelong. HAHAHA. > >> >I think Ward has gone camping. But I will ask him when he gets back. > >> >My quote 'let the drinking do the talking' was a rip off of a bad quote that fighters > >> >and football players use when talking about football. I though you might have > >> >recognised it. > >> > > >> Nah, missed that one, nevermind. > > > >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards > >and give him shit about the dive bombers. > > > Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! Quite funny too. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:59:51 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <977b94$n4g$2@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <9760ue$3jd$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <9773td$rgs$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776s9$i0c$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <53ae9t4cpjp2hvecq02oo0katra3c Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >> clever. > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >> anywhere. > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live > >> >> >> with. > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >> find. > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >> actually > >> >> >> >>> >get > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, > >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >>> >>>> don't > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you > >> >> >> >>> >stop. > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >> hours > >> >> >> >>> >>>> after, > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >> pissed > >> >> >> >>> >>>> while > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up > >> >> >> >>> >anyway. > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that > >> >> >> >>> >every > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >> vodka > >> >> >> >>> >>>> generally > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >>> >>>> > > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >> set > >> >> >> >>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >>> >don't > >> >> >> >>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those > >> >> >> >>> >machines > >> >> >> >>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> >>> >job > >> >> >> >>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. > >> >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >> >>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >> >>> >>> > >> >> >> >>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >> >>> >>> > >> >> >> >>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >> >>> >>talking about? > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >> could see > >> >> >> >>> >were the whites... > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Actually that does work... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >> off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> > > >> >> >Ah shucks DaveK. I really apreciate that. I'm currently finished with > >> >> >the C&N scotch and am now onto the JD. > >> >> > > >> >> You mean you don't start with teh good stuff? > >> > > >> >Nah, I work my way up to it. If I started with JD, then went to C&N when > >> >I ran out of JD it would ruin the whole experience. > >> > > >> Almost as much as actually sobering up would ruin the experience? > > > >Yeah, so last night, I started off C&N and then at the end of the > >night I had a few quiet JD's and it was nice... > > > I can see your point, its just that I like the first two to taste > nice, then when I am pissed I don't care anymore. I usually subscrube to that theory, but sometimes even you would be amazed at the difference. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:00:52 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <977bb1$n4g$3@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <97740c$rgs$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776po$i0c$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <35ae9top89tlu9ksp0bqo13tr8066 Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >clever. > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >anywhere. > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live > >> >> >with. > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >find. > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >actually > >> >> >>>> >get > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, > >> >> >you > >> >> >>>> >>>> don't > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you > >> >> >>>> >stop. > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >hours > >> >> >>>> >>>> after, > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >pissed > >> >> >>>> >>>> while > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up > >> >> >>>> >anyway. > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that > >> >> >>>> >every > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >you > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >vodka > >> >> >>>> >>>> generally > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >>>> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >set > >> >> >>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >>>> >>>> > >> >> >>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >you > >> >> >>>> >don't > >> >> >>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those > >> >> >>>> >machines > >> >> >>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do > >> >> >the > >> >> >>>> >job > >> >> >>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. > >> >> >>>> >>>> > >> >> >>>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >>>> >>> > >> >> >>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >>>> >>> > >> >> >>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >>>> >>talking about? > >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >could see > >> >> >>>> >were the whites... > >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> > DaveK > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>Actually that does work... > >> >> > > >> >> >Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> > > >> >> > DaveK > >> >> > >> >> Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > >> > > >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got > >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this > >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too > >> >pissed to clean his mess up. > >> > > >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the > >> worst! > > > >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. > > > Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few years he might start to learn. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:01:42 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <977bc4$n4g$4@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <9719qb$ios$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974es3$esl$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97610a$3jd$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <03jd9tsnetmuod49ioiltk81ac4rq3p1c1@4ax.com> <9773qg$qf8$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <677e9tg3o9enm8va3fc8icgr9kbmk0bouf@4ax.com> <9776np$i0c$2@intimidator.databasix.com> >> >> >> >> >> >>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally > >> >> >> >> >> >>> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >> >>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set > >> >> >> >> >> >>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol > >> >> >> >> >> >vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous > >> >> >> >> >> >magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> SUBSCRIBE!!!!! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Um... The posibilities. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> It is a worry, isn't it? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Yes, but it would be interesting to try... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Sad, but true!!! > >> >> > > >> >> >I now have a mission in life. Get with a nice nurse to > >> >> >try that out... > >> >> > > >> >> Everyone needs a hobby. > >> > > >> >No hobby, it's now the meaning for my existance. > >> > > >> I went out with a nurse for a while, she was nice too... > > > >Did she, like change your sheets, fluf your pillow and all that stuf? > > > And gave the bestest head, don't know why I let her go, really. As The Mark Of Cain sing 'Hindsight is a great thing'. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:02:56 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <9719op$ios$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eqj$esl$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <27mb9t4f3qbv2lf5pumit9los46mm6bj3c@4ax.com> <97617h$3jd$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <94jd9t41hsq04q8oiueng236pn6onrq7i3@4ax.com> <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2 Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just > >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> > > >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will > >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> > > >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> > > >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> > > >> Don't mind if I do... > > > >Well, while your there... > > > Double be ok? That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You better have both. Fuck. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:29:00 GMT From: JayDee Organization: =^.^= Message-ID: References: <96slrv$a1f$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96t248$lh1$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uogc$qr0$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <4pu59to7pt81405d5btmkpr97r97hkl776@4ax.com> <96vnia$rln$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <=ZSTOrcE18YzTTWWZ7l3dmzn896P@4ax.com> <4r5c9tk8m0c6o3bk4ei6u9lce7eh3up3nk@4ax.com> Reply-To: ThatJayDee@yahoo.com On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:55:56 +1100, Optional Identity wrote: >>I ain't been getting high and fucking my brains out... >I'm thinkin' mebee you needs to dry out for a few days, man!! fuck this shit --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:31:37 GMT From: JayDee Organization: =^.^= Message-ID: References: <96m002$5fp$6@moriarty.databasix.com> <96o6jr$on9$4@upa.databasix.com> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: ThatJayDee@yahoo.com On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:54:34 +1100, Optional Identity wrote: >>I recovered the tapes and some shit on 5.25HD >>that she had kinda-stashed behind the bed... >>pffffttt... >That is some fucked up shit, huh. Nevermind dued you'll be ok, I >guess! I'll likely splatter, real-good, beforehand, tho gross... --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:53:38 -0800 From: DrDiags Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3A973E52.2E1897FC@flashcom.net> References: <%ekl6.145$kd4.3424@news2.bora.net> <3A95E115.400568AD@flashcom.net> <%HCl6.204$kd4.4773@news2.bora.net> Reply-To: drdiags@flashcom.net Iiseull, Thanks for the clarification. As far as I know, you should be able to suspend the task for an infinite amount of time. I am unaware of any such thing as "task aging", I am interested to see if indeed there is a real concern here. iiseull wrote: > Dear all. > > Thanks for your help. > > I used "taskSuspend" to wait signal from "taskResume" from anather task, but > not to delay the task itself. > What I anxious about is that if a task is in "SUSPENDED" state for "very > long time", then the task > can not be awake from "SUSPENDED" to "READY" state. > > Thanks a lot > > iiseull --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:57:13 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <0lfe9tcql2rvjdith255bektq42r5tnnjl@4ax.com> References: <971a0f$lp0$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974f2k$esl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <9760rf$3jd$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <977446$rgs$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776v3$i0c$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <32ae9t4vdf1l1ipgn5k22onmvvk8d5uabm@4ax.com> <977b6n$n4g$1@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:58:40 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid cause >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>they are sober. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>He could have a point. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And clearly you have though of them all. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Not all of them, just most. I have got to leave myself something to do >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What you planning on doing after 20 years? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ops, I meant to say after the next 20 odd years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, medically, my body will only be able to keep on drinking >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. So I'm going to have something to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >do after those 20 odd years are up... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You could just save up for a liver transplant. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Shit. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Do you realise how much time you just save me >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >with those 9 words? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> One of the benefits of age and experience. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Shit, well I owe you. The first shout is on me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >Though you better print this off and bring it with you for proof as >> >> >> >> >> >> >I will forget and deny most vigioursly that I said it. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Nah, I don't care bout teh shouts!! I will just say "liver" over and >> >> >> >> >> >> over til you buy me a drink!!! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >That could work, depending on how much I already had already >> >> >> >> >> >had to drink, not enough and you would get your drink. To much >> >> >> >> >> >and I would YELL "FUCK OFF" over and over until you bought >> >> >> >> >> >me 3 rounds. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> That would work, I am sensitive and I will buy drinks for someone >> >> >> >> >> yelling "FUCK OFF" until they stop! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >That is very interesting. Though I wouldn't take advantage, after a >> >> >> >> >bit of yelling my throat would get dry. And then I would have to >> >> >> >> >concentrate on the drinking. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I figure that is teh best way to end teh argument. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Yep, just agree to shut the fuck up and let the drinking do the talking. >> >> >> >And no, I never played footy. >> >> >> > >> >> >> What? Who said anything about teh footy? And ask Ward for me, what >> >> >> happened to Teh Bombers in teh first round of teh Ansett cup? Port >> >> >> whatever, I don't think so. Are they playing coy? >> >> > >> >> >No, I don't think they are, cause they just got beaten by Geelong. HAHAHA. >> >> >I think Ward has gone camping. But I will ask him when he gets back. >> >> >My quote 'let the drinking do the talking' was a rip off of a bad quote that fighters >> >> >and football players use when talking about football. I though you might have >> >> >recognised it. >> >> > >> >> Nah, missed that one, nevermind. >> > >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. >> > >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! > >Quite funny too. > You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get reasonable odds for the season. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:58:33 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <9760ue$3jd$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <9773td$rgs$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776s9$i0c$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <53ae9t4cpjp2hvecq02oo0katra3chdqou@4ax.com> <977b94$n4g$2@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:59:51 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> >> clever. >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> >> anywhere. >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live >> >> >> >> with. >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> >> find. >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> >> actually >> >> >> >> >>> >get >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you >> >> >> >> >>> >stop. >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> >> hours >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> >> pissed >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> while >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up >> >> >> >> >>> >anyway. >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that >> >> >> >> >>> >every >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> >> vodka >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> >> set >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >>> >don't >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those >> >> >> >> >>> >machines >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >>> >job >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >> >>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> >> could see >> >> >> >> >>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> >> off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Ah shucks DaveK. I really apreciate that. I'm currently finished with >> >> >> >the C&N scotch and am now onto the JD. >> >> >> > >> >> >> You mean you don't start with teh good stuff? >> >> > >> >> >Nah, I work my way up to it. If I started with JD, then went to C&N when >> >> >I ran out of JD it would ruin the whole experience. >> >> > >> >> Almost as much as actually sobering up would ruin the experience? >> > >> >Yeah, so last night, I started off C&N and then at the end of the >> >night I had a few quiet JD's and it was nice... >> > >> I can see your point, its just that I like the first two to taste >> nice, then when I am pissed I don't care anymore. > >I usually subscrube to that theory, but sometimes even you would be >amazed at the difference. > When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in comparison! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:59:25 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <97740c$rgs$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776po$i0c$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <35ae9top89tlu9ksp0bqo13tr8066m3fh6@4ax.com> <977bb1$n4g$3@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:00:52 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> >clever. >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> >anywhere. >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live >> >> >> >with. >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> >find. >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> >actually >> >> >> >>>> >get >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >>>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you >> >> >> >>>> >stop. >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> >hours >> >> >> >>>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> >pissed >> >> >> >>>> >>>> while >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up >> >> >> >>>> >anyway. >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that >> >> >> >>>> >every >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> >vodka >> >> >> >>>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> >set >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >>>> >don't >> >> >> >>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those >> >> >> >>>> >machines >> >> >> >>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do >> >> >> >the >> >> >> >>>> >job >> >> >> >>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >>>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> >could see >> >> >> >>>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> > DaveK >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>Actually that does work... >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> >off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! >> >> > >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. >> >> > >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the >> >> worst! >> > >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. >> > >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? > >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few >years he might start to learn. > That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew on the floor. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 16:00:27 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <9719qb$ios$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974es3$esl$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97610a$3jd$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <03jd9tsnetmuod49ioiltk81ac4rq3p1c1@4ax.com> <9773qg$qf8$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <677e9tg3o9enm8va3fc8icgr9kbmk0bouf@4ax.com> <9776np$i0c$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <977bc4$n4g$4@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:01:42 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set >> >> >> >> >> >> >>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol >> >> >> >> >> >> >vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous >> >> >> >> >> >> >magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> SUBSCRIBE!!!!! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Um... The posibilities. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> It is a worry, isn't it? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Yes, but it would be interesting to try... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Sad, but true!!! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I now have a mission in life. Get with a nice nurse to >> >> >> >try that out... >> >> >> > >> >> >> Everyone needs a hobby. >> >> > >> >> >No hobby, it's now the meaning for my existance. >> >> > >> >> I went out with a nurse for a while, she was nice too... >> > >> >Did she, like change your sheets, fluf your pillow and all that stuf? >> > >> And gave the bestest head, don't know why I let her go, really. > >As The Mark Of Cain sing 'Hindsight is a great thing'. > She did have great arse too, did you know her? (Damn, I think I am turning into Moul!) - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 16:01:30 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <974eqj$esl$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <27mb9t4f3qbv2lf5pumit9los46mm6bj3c@4ax.com> <97617h$3jd$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <94jd9t41hsq04q8oiueng236pn6onrq7i3@4ax.com> <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:02:56 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> > >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> > >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> > >> >> Don't mind if I do... >> > >> >Well, while your there... >> > >> Double be ok? > >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >better have both. Fuck. > Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:52:35 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <977vu1$2td$1@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <971a0f$lp0$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974f2k$esl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <9760rf$3jd$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <977446$rgs$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776v3$i0c$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <32ae9t4vdf1l1ipgn5k22onmvvk8d5uabm@4ax.com> <977b6n$n4g$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <0lfe9tcql2rvjdith255bektq42 Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:58:40 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid cause > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>they are sober. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>He could have a point. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And clearly you have though of them all. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Not all of them, just most. I have got to leave myself something to do > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What you planning on doing after 20 years? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ops, I meant to say after the next 20 odd years. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, medically, my body will only be able to keep on drinking > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. So I'm going to have something to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >do after those 20 odd years are up... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You could just save up for a liver transplant. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Shit. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Do you realise how much time you just save me > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >with those 9 words? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> One of the benefits of age and experience. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Shit, well I owe you. The first shout is on me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Though you better print this off and bring it with you for proof as > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I will forget and deny most vigioursly that I said it. :) > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Nah, I don't care bout teh shouts!! I will just say "liver" over and > >> >> >> >> >> >> over til you buy me a drink!!! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >That could work, depending on how much I already had already > >> >> >> >> >> >had to drink, not enough and you would get your drink. To much > >> >> >> >> >> >and I would YELL "FUCK OFF" over and over until you bought > >> >> >> >> >> >me 3 rounds. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> That would work, I am sensitive and I will buy drinks for someone > >> >> >> >> >> yelling "FUCK OFF" until they stop! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >That is very interesting. Though I wouldn't take advantage, after a > >> >> >> >> >bit of yelling my throat would get dry. And then I would have to > >> >> >> >> >concentrate on the drinking. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> I figure that is teh best way to end teh argument. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Yep, just agree to shut the fuck up and let the drinking do the talking. > >> >> >> >And no, I never played footy. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> What? Who said anything about teh footy? And ask Ward for me, what > >> >> >> happened to Teh Bombers in teh first round of teh Ansett cup? Port > >> >> >> whatever, I don't think so. Are they playing coy? > >> >> > > >> >> >No, I don't think they are, cause they just got beaten by Geelong. HAHAHA. > >> >> >I think Ward has gone camping. But I will ask him when he gets back. > >> >> >My quote 'let the drinking do the talking' was a rip off of a bad quote that fighters > >> >> >and football players use when talking about football. I though you might have > >> >> >recognised it. > >> >> > > >> >> Nah, missed that one, nevermind. > >> > > >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards > >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. > >> > > >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! > > > >Quite funny too. > > > You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get > reasonable odds for the season. That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:53:41 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <978003$2td$2@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <9760ue$3jd$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <9773td$rgs$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776s9$i0c$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <53ae9t4cpjp2hvecq02oo0katra3chdqou@4ax.com> <977b94$n4g$2@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:59:51 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >> >> clever. > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >> >> anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live > >> >> >> >> with. > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >> >> find. > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >> >> actually > >> >> >> >> >>> >get > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, > >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> don't > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you > >> >> >> >> >>> >stop. > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >> >> hours > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> after, > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >> >> pissed > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> while > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up > >> >> >> >> >>> >anyway. > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that > >> >> >> >> >>> >every > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >> >> vodka > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> generally > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >> >> set > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >>> >don't > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those > >> >> >> >> >>> >machines > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do > >> >> >> >> the > >> >> >> >> >>> >job > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >> >> >>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >> >> >>> >>talking about? > >> >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >> >>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >> >> could see > >> >> >> >> >>> >were the whites... > >> >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >> >>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Actually that does work... > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >> >> off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Ah shucks DaveK. I really apreciate that. I'm currently finished with > >> >> >> >the C&N scotch and am now onto the JD. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> You mean you don't start with teh good stuff? > >> >> > > >> >> >Nah, I work my way up to it. If I started with JD, then went to C&N when > >> >> >I ran out of JD it would ruin the whole experience. > >> >> > > >> >> Almost as much as actually sobering up would ruin the experience? > >> > > >> >Yeah, so last night, I started off C&N and then at the end of the > >> >night I had a few quiet JD's and it was nice... > >> > > >> I can see your point, its just that I like the first two to taste > >> nice, then when I am pissed I don't care anymore. > > > >I usually subscrube to that theory, but sometimes even you would be > >amazed at the difference. > > > When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > comparison! Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:56:24 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <978054$2td$3@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <97740c$rgs$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776po$i0c$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <35ae9top89tlu9ksp0bqo13tr8066m3fh6@4ax.com> <977bb1$n4g$3@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:00:52 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >> >clever. > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >> >anywhere. > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live > >> >> >> >with. > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >> >find. > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >> >actually > >> >> >> >>>> >get > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, > >> >> >> >you > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> don't > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you > >> >> >> >>>> >stop. > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >> >hours > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> after, > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >> >pissed > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> while > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up > >> >> >> >>>> >anyway. > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that > >> >> >> >>>> >every > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >> >you > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >> >vodka > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> generally > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> > > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >> >set > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >> >you > >> >> >> >>>> >don't > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those > >> >> >> >>>> >machines > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do > >> >> >> >the > >> >> >> >>>> >job > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >> >>>> >>> > >> >> >> >>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >> >>>> >>> > >> >> >> >>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >> >>>> >>talking about? > >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >> >could see > >> >> >> >>>> >were the whites... > >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >>>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>Actually that does work... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >> >off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > >> >> > > >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got > >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this > >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too > >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. > >> >> > > >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the > >> >> worst! > >> > > >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. > >> > > >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? > > > >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few > >years he might start to learn. > > > That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew > on the floor. I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to get to either a sick, toilet or outside. Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it and quiet a bit more in the sink. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:57:42 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97807o$2td$4@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <9719qb$ios$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <974es3$esl$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97610a$3jd$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <03jd9tsnetmuod49ioiltk81ac4rq3p1c1@4ax.com> <9773qg$qf8$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <677e9tg3o9enm8va3fc8icgr9kbmk0bouf@4ax.com> <9776np$i0c$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <977bc4$n4g$4@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:01:42 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol > >> >> >> >> >> >> >vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous > >> >> >> >> >> >> >magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> SUBSCRIBE!!!!! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Um... The posibilities. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> It is a worry, isn't it? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Yes, but it would be interesting to try... > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Sad, but true!!! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >I now have a mission in life. Get with a nice nurse to > >> >> >> >try that out... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Everyone needs a hobby. > >> >> > > >> >> >No hobby, it's now the meaning for my existance. > >> >> > > >> >> I went out with a nurse for a while, she was nice too... > >> > > >> >Did she, like change your sheets, fluf your pillow and all that stuf? > >> > > >> And gave the bestest head, don't know why I let her go, really. > > > >As The Mark Of Cain sing 'Hindsight is a great thing'. > > > She did have great arse too, did you know her? > (Damn, I think I am turning into Moul!) Oh, please don't. And no, I didn't know here. Well I could have, but as I don't know who your talking about if a bit hard to say yes or no without any chance of error. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:01:24 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <9780eg$6li$1@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <974eqj$esl$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <27mb9t4f3qbv2lf5pumit9los46mm6bj3c@4ax.com> <97617h$3jd$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <94jd9t41hsq04q8oiueng236pn6onrq7i3@4ax.com> <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:02:56 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just > >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will > >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >> > > >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> > > >> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> > > >> >Well, while your there... > >> > > >> Double be ok? > > > >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >better have both. Fuck. > > > Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: POSIX async I/O Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 17:53:52 GMT From: "G Kraemer" Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: vxWorks users: I'm experiencing problems with async I/O in vxWorks 5.4. I'm including my sample program. It is compiled with Green Hills Multi 1.8.9. I load and spawn discfail. The value for aio_return for some reads is zero (aio_error is also zero). My data files are 7.5 megs. Using the 'i' command in the target shell displays task1 or task2 usually has an errno of 4 (Interrupted System Call). vxWorks is running from flash. When I re-program the flash with vxWorks 5.3.1, this sample program does not fail. I have MAX_AIO_TASKS in usrConfig.h set to 10. Questions: 1. Any ideas on what is happening? How do I fix it? 2. Is anyone else experiencing a 3 week turn around in WRS tech support? I usually get the TSR assigned to an engineer and then after about a week it gets elevated to a senior engineer. Then it takes 2-4 days for the senior engr to get to it in his queue. Then in 3-5 days I usually get resolution to the TSR. I'm 3 weeks from customer acceptance testing and need immediate resolution on this problem. I've even documented TSR correspondence/timeliness and passed it to our new regionl rep; he was going to get back with me in a week or so and it's been 2 months now! My how time flies! 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IMHO, keep it simple and try to add a restricted set of command to the symbol table and use the default shell. It might not work exactly the way you would like but it is less code to support and it will probably be ready faster. For FTP, you don't even need to modify the FTP code. Create yourself a device (Chapter 3 of vxWorks programmers guide) which support open, read, write and a few IOCTL command. You then just CWD to this directory and do PUT/GET/LS. Works fine for us. john horvath wrote: > Hi, > Can you give me any quick advice on how to hook up VxWorks TELNET and FTP to my > custom application. > > I have FTP and TELNET built into VxWorks VBI and I can FTP and TELNET to the box > but how do I hook them up to my custom application (ie...I am going to code a > text menu interface on TELNET and receive user input, and with FTP I am going to > accept firmware updates). > > It seems like there is a way to define some standard functions, like: > AcceptTelnetTask( some params? ) > and > AcceptFTPTask (some params ?) > > but all I can find in the documentation is information on starting and stopping > the service ( ie...ftpdInit, ftpdDelete, telnetdInit, telnetdDelete)... > > Thanks! > Any Help is Appreciated! > John > jhorvath@chaparralnet.com > > email: jhorvath@chaparralnet.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VxWorks hang up in mcp750 Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:30:31 -0800 From: "Deja User" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <200102241830.KAA09782@mail14.bigmailbox.com> Tornado vxworks Hi guys / gals, Host:WinNT Target:MCP750, BSP V1.2 Tornado - II We have inserted Lucent access board on Compact PCI chassis, where MCP750 board is used as CPU. When we execute lucent driver commands from target shell prompt, the system getting hang up. This problem is occuring randomly, not specifically during any single driver command. we have tried to increase target shell stack space from default 20K to 50K, defined all board register variables as volatile, given few microsecond delay before accessing each register variable, etc.. Still the problem persists. Can any one faced up with similar problem and can suggest the solution found.. Thanks in advance. Bye... EmbLov - ------------------------------------------------------------ - --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: vxworks and xmodem protocol Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:07:27 GMT From: Tom Flynn Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <3A981465.2EB50160@home.com> Reply-To: tomflynn2@home.com I have an application (vxworks platform) that needs to download to another system via RS232 and xmodem. The method of download cannot be changed due to the system at the other end. I can't seem to find any information on the xmodem protocol in any of the vxworks literature. Does vxworks have any library or driver calls for this protocol? Xmodem has been around so long that there must be some canned routines for this. All I need to do is download some data to the other device. Thanks. - -Tom --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: T2 man pages??? Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:16:07 GMT From: "bob houston" Organization: Road Runner - Texas Message-ID: References: <3A8AE8FE.D8334752@sis-dev.com> <982926857.174058@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> "Werner Schiendl" wrote in message news:982926857.174058@newsmaster-04.atnet.at... > > With the good old unix man pages, I could have a couple of man pages, > > a couple of includes and a couple of .c files displayed on my monitor > > with all visible, no overlap. > > damn where did you buy that 200" screen? > i started this thread and i'm glad to see the response. because developers should know that many choices are available, usoft is not the only one. Just a decent Sun 20 inch monitor. better on a 24 inch. quality of graphics and monitor matter a bunch. It's kinda like the old adage, "spend as much on your speakers as much as you do on the rest of the system". If you spend hours a day, the monitor is where the rubber meets the road. Quality monitors are much cheaper now. as far as i know, sony still makes the best monitors. I suspect you can't get 6 80x25 xterms on an inteldows screen unless you're using an Xserver product connected to a unix box Likely mac users can do the same? why xterm? count the mouse clicks between a unix xterm cut/paste (2) and an inteldows cut/paste. then u'll know. gdluck, bob I --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:12:00 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <974f2k$esl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <9760rf$3jd$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <977446$rgs$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776v3$i0c$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <32ae9t4vdf1l1ipgn5k22onmvvk8d5uabm@4ax.com> <977b6n$n4g$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <0lfe9tcql2rvjdith255bektq42r5tnnjl@4ax.com> <977vu1$2td$1@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:52:35 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:58:40 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid cause >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>they are sober. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>He could have a point. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And clearly you have though of them all. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Not all of them, just most. I have got to leave myself something to do >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What you planning on doing after 20 years? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ops, I meant to say after the next 20 odd years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, medically, my body will only be able to keep on drinking >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. So I'm going to have something to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >do after those 20 odd years are up... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You could just save up for a liver transplant. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Shit. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Do you realise how much time you just save me >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >with those 9 words? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> One of the benefits of age and experience. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Shit, well I owe you. The first shout is on me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Though you better print this off and bring it with you for proof as >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I will forget and deny most vigioursly that I said it. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Nah, I don't care bout teh shouts!! I will just say "liver" over and >> >> >> >> >> >> >> over til you buy me a drink!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >That could work, depending on how much I already had already >> >> >> >> >> >> >had to drink, not enough and you would get your drink. To much >> >> >> >> >> >> >and I would YELL "FUCK OFF" over and over until you bought >> >> >> >> >> >> >me 3 rounds. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> That would work, I am sensitive and I will buy drinks for someone >> >> >> >> >> >> yelling "FUCK OFF" until they stop! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >That is very interesting. Though I wouldn't take advantage, after a >> >> >> >> >> >bit of yelling my throat would get dry. And then I would have to >> >> >> >> >> >concentrate on the drinking. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> I figure that is teh best way to end teh argument. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Yep, just agree to shut the fuck up and let the drinking do the talking. >> >> >> >> >And no, I never played footy. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> What? Who said anything about teh footy? And ask Ward for me, what >> >> >> >> happened to Teh Bombers in teh first round of teh Ansett cup? Port >> >> >> >> whatever, I don't think so. Are they playing coy? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >No, I don't think they are, cause they just got beaten by Geelong. HAHAHA. >> >> >> >I think Ward has gone camping. But I will ask him when he gets back. >> >> >> >My quote 'let the drinking do the talking' was a rip off of a bad quote that fighters >> >> >> >and football players use when talking about football. I though you might have >> >> >> >recognised it. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Nah, missed that one, nevermind. >> >> > >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. >> >> > >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! >> > >> >Quite funny too. >> > >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get >> reasonable odds for the season. > >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. > Prolly, they were way too good last year. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:12:48 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <5t8g9tov0udchtfkl9sum9mi2g00hn4lr8@4ax.com> References: <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <9760ue$3jd$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <9773td$rgs$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776s9$i0c$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <53ae9t4cpjp2hvecq02oo0katra3chdqou@4ax.com> <977b94$n4g$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <978003$2td$2@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:53:41 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:59:51 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> >> >> clever. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> >> >> anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live >> >> >> >> >> with. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> >> >> find. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> >> >> actually >> >> >> >> >> >>> >get >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you >> >> >> >> >> >>> >stop. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> >> >> hours >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> >> >> pissed >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> while >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up >> >> >> >> >> >>> >anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that >> >> >> >> >> >>> >every >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> >> >> vodka >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> >> >> set >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >>> >don't >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those >> >> >> >> >> >>> >machines >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> >>> >job >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> >> >> could see >> >> >> >> >> >>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> >> >> off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Ah shucks DaveK. I really apreciate that. I'm currently finished with >> >> >> >> >the C&N scotch and am now onto the JD. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> You mean you don't start with teh good stuff? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Nah, I work my way up to it. If I started with JD, then went to C&N when >> >> >> >I ran out of JD it would ruin the whole experience. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Almost as much as actually sobering up would ruin the experience? >> >> > >> >> >Yeah, so last night, I started off C&N and then at the end of the >> >> >night I had a few quiet JD's and it was nice... >> >> > >> >> I can see your point, its just that I like the first two to taste >> >> nice, then when I am pissed I don't care anymore. >> > >> >I usually subscrube to that theory, but sometimes even you would be >> >amazed at the difference. >> > >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> comparison! > >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:14:36 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <97740c$rgs$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776po$i0c$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <35ae9top89tlu9ksp0bqo13tr8066m3fh6@4ax.com> <977bb1$n4g$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <978054$2td$3@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:56:24 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:00:52 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> >> >clever. >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> >> >anywhere. >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live >> >> >> >> >with. >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> >> >find. >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> >> >actually >> >> >> >> >>>> >get >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, >> >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you >> >> >> >> >>>> >stop. >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> >> >hours >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> >> >pissed >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> while >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up >> >> >> >> >>>> >anyway. >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that >> >> >> >> >>>> >every >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> >> >vodka >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> >> >set >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >> >>>> >don't >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those >> >> >> >> >>>> >machines >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do >> >> >> >> >the >> >> >> >> >>>> >job >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >> >>>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> >> >could see >> >> >> >> >>>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> >> >off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got >> >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this >> >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too >> >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. >> >> >> > >> >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the >> >> >> worst! >> >> > >> >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. >> >> > >> >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? >> > >> >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few >> >years he might start to learn. >> > >> That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew >> on the floor. > >I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as >a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to >get to either a sick, toilet or outside. >Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but >I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it >and quiet a bit more in the sink. > I think it is an alcohol tolerance thing, or just practice. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:15:48 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <029g9tsekd4l7mnrir85qsm0p9ln9l2vu3@4ax.com> References: <974es3$esl$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97610a$3jd$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <03jd9tsnetmuod49ioiltk81ac4rq3p1c1@4ax.com> <9773qg$qf8$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <677e9tg3o9enm8va3fc8icgr9kbmk0bouf@4ax.com> <9776np$i0c$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <977bc4$n4g$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <97807o$2td$4@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:57:42 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:01:42 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> SUBSCRIBE!!!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Um... The posibilities. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> It is a worry, isn't it? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, but it would be interesting to try... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Sad, but true!!! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >I now have a mission in life. Get with a nice nurse to >> >> >> >> >try that out... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Everyone needs a hobby. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >No hobby, it's now the meaning for my existance. >> >> >> > >> >> >> I went out with a nurse for a while, she was nice too... >> >> > >> >> >Did she, like change your sheets, fluf your pillow and all that stuf? >> >> > >> >> And gave the bestest head, don't know why I let her go, really. >> > >> >As The Mark Of Cain sing 'Hindsight is a great thing'. >> > >> She did have great arse too, did you know her? >> (Damn, I think I am turning into Moul!) > >Oh, please don't. And no, I didn't know here. Well I could have, >but as I don't know who your talking about if a bit hard to say yes >or no without any chance of error. > Good point. I have fairly high opinion of nurses as girlfriends, though. Possibly it's the uniforms. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:16:21 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <849g9ts8enim6u5gpk4rv68sevk54kmsrp@4ax.com> References: <974eqj$esl$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <27mb9t4f3qbv2lf5pumit9los46mm6bj3c@4ax.com> <97617h$3jd$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <94jd9t41hsq04q8oiueng236pn6onrq7i3@4ax.com> <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9780eg$6li$1@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:01:24 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:02:56 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> > >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> > >> >> >Well, while your there... >> >> > >> >> Double be ok? >> > >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >better have both. Fuck. >> > >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. > It's better than being sober alone! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: adding new protocol family support to the vxWorks host network stack Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 18:55:32 -0500 From: Neil Horman Message-ID: <3A9849F4.10054A84@bellsouth.net> Hello all- I'm trying to develop a small, lightweight protocol for use on an embedded system I'm helping develop. Currently I'm prototyping under linux, which makes development really easy. One of the features I'm trying to build into the protocol software is portability. So my question is, is there any easy way under vxWorks, to expand the suite of supported protocol families so that I can use this software without needing to go to the expense of purchasing a third party network stack? My understanding is that currently only AF_INET is supported in calls to socket(). Any opinions are appreciated. Thanks! - -Neil Horman --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: vxworks and xmodem protocol Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 18:24:52 -0700 From: "Amy Michaelis" Organization: Dimensional Communications Message-ID: References: <3A981465.2EB50160@home.com> Hi, Here is a link to some vxWorks archives. I ported an xmodem/ymodem package to vxworks, and it resides here. It's been a while since I looked at it, but it should be pretty easy to adapt to your needs. There are six files to the package in a unix shell archive format. ftp://ftp.atd.ucar.edu/pub/vxworks/vx/ Matt Michaelis Tom Flynn wrote in message news:3A981465.2EB50160@home.com... > I have an application (vxworks platform) that needs to download to > another system via RS232 and xmodem. The method of download cannot be > changed due to the system at the other end. > > I can't seem to find any information on the xmodem protocol in any of > the vxworks literature. Does vxworks have any library or driver calls > for this protocol? > > Xmodem has been around so long that there must be some canned routines > for this. All I need to do is download some data to the other device. > > Thanks. > > -Tom > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:43:39 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <979nl7$n62$9@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <974f2k$esl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <9760rf$3jd$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <977446$rgs$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776v3$i0c$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <32ae9t4vdf1l1ipgn5k22onmvvk8d5uabm@4ax.com> <977b6n$n4g$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <0lfe9tcql2rvjdith255bektq42r5tnnjl@4ax.com> <977vu1$2td$1@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:52:35 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:58:40 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid cause > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>they are sober. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>He could have a point. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And clearly you have though of them all. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Not all of them, just most. I have got to leave myself something to do > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What you planning on doing after 20 years? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ops, I meant to say after the next 20 odd years. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, medically, my body will only be able to keep on drinking > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. So I'm going to have something to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >do after those 20 odd years are up... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You could just save up for a liver transplant. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Shit. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Do you realise how much time you just save me > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >with those 9 words? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> One of the benefits of age and experience. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Shit, well I owe you. The first shout is on me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Though you better print this off and bring it with you for proof as > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I will forget and deny most vigioursly that I said it. :) > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Nah, I don't care bout teh shouts!! I will just say "liver" over and > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> over til you buy me a drink!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >That could work, depending on how much I already had already > >> >> >> >> >> >> >had to drink, not enough and you would get your drink. To much > >> >> >> >> >> >> >and I would YELL "FUCK OFF" over and over until you bought > >> >> >> >> >> >> >me 3 rounds. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> That would work, I am sensitive and I will buy drinks for someone > >> >> >> >> >> >> yelling "FUCK OFF" until they stop! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >That is very interesting. Though I wouldn't take advantage, after a > >> >> >> >> >> >bit of yelling my throat would get dry. And then I would have to > >> >> >> >> >> >concentrate on the drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> I figure that is teh best way to end teh argument. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Yep, just agree to shut the fuck up and let the drinking do the talking. > >> >> >> >> >And no, I never played footy. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> What? Who said anything about teh footy? And ask Ward for me, what > >> >> >> >> happened to Teh Bombers in teh first round of teh Ansett cup? Port > >> >> >> >> whatever, I don't think so. Are they playing coy? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >No, I don't think they are, cause they just got beaten by Geelong. HAHAHA. > >> >> >> >I think Ward has gone camping. But I will ask him when he gets back. > >> >> >> >My quote 'let the drinking do the talking' was a rip off of a bad quote that fighters > >> >> >> >and football players use when talking about football. I though you might have > >> >> >> >recognised it. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Nah, missed that one, nevermind. > >> >> > > >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards > >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. > >> >> > > >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! > >> > > >> >Quite funny too. > >> > > >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get > >> reasonable odds for the season. > > > >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. > > > Prolly, they were way too good last year. Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:45:36 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <979not$n62$11@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <97740c$rgs$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776po$i0c$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <35ae9top89tlu9ksp0bqo13tr8066m3fh6@4ax.com> <977bb1$n4g$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <978054$2td$3@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:56:24 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:00:52 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >> >> >clever. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >> >> >anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live > >> >> >> >> >with. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >> >> >find. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >> >> >actually > >> >> >> >> >>>> >get > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, > >> >> >> >> >you > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> don't > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you > >> >> >> >> >>>> >stop. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >> >> >hours > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> after, > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >> >> >pissed > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> while > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up > >> >> >> >> >>>> >anyway. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that > >> >> >> >> >>>> >every > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >> >> >you > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >> >> >vodka > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> generally > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >> >> >set > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >> >> >you > >> >> >> >> >>>> >don't > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those > >> >> >> >> >>>> >machines > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do > >> >> >> >> >the > >> >> >> >> >>>> >job > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >> >> >>>> >>talking about? > >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >> >> >could see > >> >> >> >> >>>> >were the whites... > >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>Actually that does work... > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >> >> >off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got > >> >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this > >> >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too > >> >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the > >> >> >> worst! > >> >> > > >> >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. > >> >> > > >> >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? > >> > > >> >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few > >> >years he might start to learn. > >> > > >> That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew > >> on the floor. > > > >I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as > >a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to > >get to either a sick, toilet or outside. > >Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but > >I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it > >and quiet a bit more in the sink. > > > I think it is an alcohol tolerance thing, or just practice. I don't think so. I tend to think it is maturity. I know that Rob can drink a little bit more than me on a big night, I just know when to stop. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:44:08 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <979nm6$n62$10@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <9760ue$3jd$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <9773td$rgs$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776s9$i0c$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <53ae9t4cpjp2hvecq02oo0katra3chdqou@4ax.com> <977b94$n4g$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <978003$2td$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <5t8g9tov0udchtfkl9sum9mi2g00 Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:53:41 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:59:51 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >> >> >> clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >> >> >> anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live > >> >> >> >> >> with. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >> >> >> find. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >> >> >> actually > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >get > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, > >> >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> don't > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >> >> >> hours > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> after, > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >> >> >> pissed > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> while > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >every > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >> >> >> vodka > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> generally > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> set > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >don't > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >machines > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do > >> >> >> >> >> the > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >job > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>talking about? > >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >> >> >> could see > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >were the whites... > >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Actually that does work... > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >> >> >> off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Ah shucks DaveK. I really apreciate that. I'm currently finished with > >> >> >> >> >the C&N scotch and am now onto the JD. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> You mean you don't start with teh good stuff? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Nah, I work my way up to it. If I started with JD, then went to C&N when > >> >> >> >I ran out of JD it would ruin the whole experience. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Almost as much as actually sobering up would ruin the experience? > >> >> > > >> >> >Yeah, so last night, I started off C&N and then at the end of the > >> >> >night I had a few quiet JD's and it was nice... > >> >> > > >> >> I can see your point, its just that I like the first two to taste > >> >> nice, then when I am pissed I don't care anymore. > >> > > >> >I usually subscrube to that theory, but sometimes even you would be > >> >amazed at the difference. > >> > > >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> comparison! > > > >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > > > I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. Dam, then why drink it? > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:47:05 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <979nrm$n62$12@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <974es3$esl$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97610a$3jd$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <03jd9tsnetmuod49ioiltk81ac4rq3p1c1@4ax.com> <9773qg$qf8$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <677e9tg3o9enm8va3fc8icgr9kbmk0bouf@4ax.com> <9776np$i0c$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <977bc4$n4g$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <97807o$2td$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <029g9tsekd4l7mnrir85qsm0p9 Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:57:42 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:01:42 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> SUBSCRIBE!!!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Um... The posibilities. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> It is a worry, isn't it? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, but it would be interesting to try... > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Sad, but true!!! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >I now have a mission in life. Get with a nice nurse to > >> >> >> >> >try that out... > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Everyone needs a hobby. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >No hobby, it's now the meaning for my existance. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> I went out with a nurse for a while, she was nice too... > >> >> > > >> >> >Did she, like change your sheets, fluf your pillow and all that stuf? > >> >> > > >> >> And gave the bestest head, don't know why I let her go, really. > >> > > >> >As The Mark Of Cain sing 'Hindsight is a great thing'. > >> > > >> She did have great arse too, did you know her? > >> (Damn, I think I am turning into Moul!) > > > >Oh, please don't. And no, I didn't know here. Well I could have, > >but as I don't know who your talking about if a bit hard to say yes > >or no without any chance of error. > > > Good point. I have fairly high opinion of nurses as girlfriends, > though. Possibly it's the uniforms. That's part of the attraction there. Though you can transfer that to women in police or the defence forces as well. But we know their all dykes. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:10:37 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <9760rf$3jd$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <977446$rgs$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776v3$i0c$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <32ae9t4vdf1l1ipgn5k22onmvvk8d5uabm@4ax.com> <977b6n$n4g$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <0lfe9tcql2rvjdith255bektq42r5tnnjl@4ax.com> <977vu1$2td$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <979nl7$n62$9@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:43:39 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:52:35 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:58:40 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid cause >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>they are sober. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>He could have a point. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And clearly you have though of them all. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Not all of them, just most. I have got to leave myself something to do >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What you planning on doing after 20 years? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ops, I meant to say after the next 20 odd years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, medically, my body will only be able to keep on drinking >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. So I'm going to have something to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >do after those 20 odd years are up... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You could just save up for a liver transplant. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Shit. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Do you realise how much time you just save me >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >with those 9 words? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> One of the benefits of age and experience. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Shit, well I owe you. The first shout is on me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Though you better print this off and bring it with you for proof as >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I will forget and deny most vigioursly that I said it. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Nah, I don't care bout teh shouts!! I will just say "liver" over and >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> over til you buy me a drink!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That could work, depending on how much I already had already >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >had to drink, not enough and you would get your drink. To much >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and I would YELL "FUCK OFF" over and over until you bought >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >me 3 rounds. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That would work, I am sensitive and I will buy drinks for someone >> >> >> >> >> >> >> yelling "FUCK OFF" until they stop! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >That is very interesting. Though I wouldn't take advantage, after a >> >> >> >> >> >> >bit of yelling my throat would get dry. And then I would have to >> >> >> >> >> >> >concentrate on the drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> I figure that is teh best way to end teh argument. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Yep, just agree to shut the fuck up and let the drinking do the talking. >> >> >> >> >> >And no, I never played footy. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> What? Who said anything about teh footy? And ask Ward for me, what >> >> >> >> >> happened to Teh Bombers in teh first round of teh Ansett cup? Port >> >> >> >> >> whatever, I don't think so. Are they playing coy? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >No, I don't think they are, cause they just got beaten by Geelong. HAHAHA. >> >> >> >> >I think Ward has gone camping. But I will ask him when he gets back. >> >> >> >> >My quote 'let the drinking do the talking' was a rip off of a bad quote that fighters >> >> >> >> >and football players use when talking about football. I though you might have >> >> >> >> >recognised it. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Nah, missed that one, nevermind. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! >> >> > >> >> >Quite funny too. >> >> > >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get >> >> reasonable odds for the season. >> > >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. >> > >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. > >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. > Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on the Bulldogs and made a killing! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:11:13 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <9760ue$3jd$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <9773td$rgs$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776s9$i0c$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <53ae9t4cpjp2hvecq02oo0katra3chdqou@4ax.com> <977b94$n4g$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <978003$2td$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <5t8g9tov0udchtfkl9sum9mi2g00hn4lr8@4ax.com> <979nm6$n62$10@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:44:08 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:53:41 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:59:51 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> >> >> >> clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> >> >> >> anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live >> >> >> >> >> >> with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> >> >> >> find. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> >> >> >> actually >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >get >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, >> >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> >> >> >> hours >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> >> >> >> pissed >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> while >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >every >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> >> >> >> vodka >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> set >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >machines >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do >> >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >job >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> >> >> >> could see >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> >> >> >> off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Ah shucks DaveK. I really apreciate that. I'm currently finished with >> >> >> >> >> >the C&N scotch and am now onto the JD. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> You mean you don't start with teh good stuff? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Nah, I work my way up to it. If I started with JD, then went to C&N when >> >> >> >> >I ran out of JD it would ruin the whole experience. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Almost as much as actually sobering up would ruin the experience? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Yeah, so last night, I started off C&N and then at the end of the >> >> >> >night I had a few quiet JD's and it was nice... >> >> >> > >> >> >> I can see your point, its just that I like the first two to taste >> >> >> nice, then when I am pissed I don't care anymore. >> >> > >> >> >I usually subscrube to that theory, but sometimes even you would be >> >> >amazed at the difference. >> >> > >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> comparison! >> > >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> > >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >Dam, then why drink it? > To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:12:01 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <97740c$rgs$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776po$i0c$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <35ae9top89tlu9ksp0bqo13tr8066m3fh6@4ax.com> <977bb1$n4g$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <978054$2td$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <979not$n62$11@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:45:36 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:56:24 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:00:52 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> >> >> >clever. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> >> >> >anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live >> >> >> >> >> >with. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> >> >> >find. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> >> >> >actually >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >get >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, >> >> >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >stop. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> >> >> >hours >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> >> >> >pissed >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> while >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >every >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> >> >> >vodka >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >set >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >don't >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >machines >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do >> >> >> >> >> >the >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >job >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> >> >> >could see >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> >> >> >off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got >> >> >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this >> >> >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too >> >> >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the >> >> >> >> worst! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? >> >> > >> >> >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few >> >> >years he might start to learn. >> >> > >> >> That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew >> >> on the floor. >> > >> >I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as >> >a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to >> >get to either a sick, toilet or outside. >> >Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but >> >I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it >> >and quiet a bit more in the sink. >> > >> I think it is an alcohol tolerance thing, or just practice. > >I don't think so. I tend to think it is maturity. I know that Rob can drink a >little bit more than me on a big night, I just know when to stop. > Drinking through to alcohol poisoning is usually a mistake. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:12:40 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <50ug9tkirb824jmqfsvln0nm972m04bo7j@4ax.com> References: <97610a$3jd$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <03jd9tsnetmuod49ioiltk81ac4rq3p1c1@4ax.com> <9773qg$qf8$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <677e9tg3o9enm8va3fc8icgr9kbmk0bouf@4ax.com> <9776np$i0c$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <977bc4$n4g$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <97807o$2td$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <029g9tsekd4l7mnrir85qsm0p9ln9l2vu3@4ax.com> <979nrm$n62$12@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:47:05 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:57:42 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:01:42 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> SUBSCRIBE!!!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Um... The posibilities. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It is a worry, isn't it? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, but it would be interesting to try... >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Sad, but true!!! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >I now have a mission in life. Get with a nice nurse to >> >> >> >> >> >try that out... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Everyone needs a hobby. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >No hobby, it's now the meaning for my existance. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I went out with a nurse for a while, she was nice too... >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Did she, like change your sheets, fluf your pillow and all that stuf? >> >> >> > >> >> >> And gave the bestest head, don't know why I let her go, really. >> >> > >> >> >As The Mark Of Cain sing 'Hindsight is a great thing'. >> >> > >> >> She did have great arse too, did you know her? >> >> (Damn, I think I am turning into Moul!) >> > >> >Oh, please don't. And no, I didn't know here. Well I could have, >> >but as I don't know who your talking about if a bit hard to say yes >> >or no without any chance of error. >> > >> Good point. I have fairly high opinion of nurses as girlfriends, >> though. Possibly it's the uniforms. > >That's part of the attraction there. Though you can transfer that to women >in police or the defence forces as well. But we know their all dykes. > Whereas all nurses are straight, everyone knows that. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: What's the meaning of CACHE_PIPE_FLUSH()? Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 05:01:27 GMT From: "Corey Ashford" Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: References: <9625c7$2jj$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Some processors have what are called "write buffers" which queue up memory writes rather than block the processor until the write has completed. Write buffers can get in the way when programming I/O devices. When two writes are made to the same location in RAM, some write buffers are smart enough to only write out the data of the last write, not both writes. If you are writing to an I/O device, this may be bad because you might actually need both writes to occur. So the idea is that you flush the write buffer after each access to make sure all the writes occur and that they occur in the order they were issued. Hope this helps. - - Corey wrote in message news:9625c7$2jj$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > Hi, > > In the source code of SCC UART serial driver of PPC8260 > (m8260Sio.c),there use CACHE_PIPLE_FLUSH() in some places. But in the > driver of PPC860, we can not find one. > > I have seen the online manuals, it saids > > STATUS cachePipeFlush (void) > DESCRIPTION > This routine forces the processor output buffers to write their > contents to RAM. A cache flush may have forced its data into the write > buffers, then the buffers need to be flushed to RAM to maintain > coherency. > > I do not understand these words exactly and why it is different between > the drivers of PPC860 with the PPC8260. > > I use T2, target are PPC8260 and PPC860. BSP are ads860 and ads8260. > > Thanks for any help in advance! > > Zhou xiaochen > > > > Sent via Deja.com > http://www.deja.com/ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: build agent Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 17:13:56 +0200 From: "yuval shoham" Organization: Bezeq International Ltd. Message-ID: <3a9920d2@news.bezeqint.net> Hi every one. I'm going to build an snmp agent. Dose any one know other tools except WindRiver or Snmp-Research? Which one is better? Regards, Yuval --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: problem on using objcopyppc Date: 25 Feb 2001 15:31:04 GMT From: Johan Borkhuis Organization: Lucent Technologies, Nieuwegein NL Message-ID: <97b8fo$bit$1@news1.xs4all.nl> References: Jason Jiang wrote: : I wanted to burn the vxWorks image into the boot flash. I could not use 'ld' : command, while the vxWorks images was running. So I used fopen(), fread() to : read the image into my local memory, then used flash driver to burn it into : the boot flash. But it cannot bring up the processor, because when booting : up, the system will begin executing from the beginning of the boot flash, : which contains the header of the image, instead of the executable code (text : segment). : Because of this, I tried to use "objcopyppc" command to strip the image and : get text segment only. But I didn't know how to use this command. The only : help I got was as below. Who can help please? The manual page is in the GNU tools section of the help. Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . ______________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@lucent.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|___________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: how to develop custom TELNET and FTP? Date: 25 Feb 2001 15:41:25 GMT From: Johan Borkhuis Organization: Lucent Technologies, Nieuwegein NL Message-ID: <97b935$bit$2@news1.xs4all.nl> References: <3A96F17E.7AA11FAF@chaparralnet.com> <3A97FB6F.665552F@nospamsympatico.ca> muscou wrote: : For telnet, you could buy the source code from WRS and add your custom : processing in there. You don't have to buy the source code for a telnet server. There is an unsupported version of the telnet server, that supports multiple telnet sessions at the same time, for example 1 to the shell (that is still the maximum, as the shell is not reentrant) and one to your own CLI. You can get this version of the telnet server from your FAE. Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . ______________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@lucent.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|___________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Async Read Failure Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 16:55:10 GMT From: "G Kraemer" Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: vxWorks users: I'm experiencing problems with async I/O in vxWorks 5.4. I'm including my sample program source code. The executable is compiled with Green Hills Multi 1.8.9. I load and spawn discfail which spawns task1 and task2. The value for aio_return for some reads is zero (aio_error is also zero). My data files are 7.5 megs (not included-classified data). Using the 'i' command in the target shell displays task1 or task2 usually has an errno of 4 (Interrupted System Call). MVME-2604 (200MHZ) Power PC with 32Megs ram. Tornado 1.01 and 2.0 (T2CP3) 2604 BSP. IOMEGA SCSI Insider 100 ZIP drive. vxWorks is running from flash. When I re-program the flash with vxWorks 5.3.1, this sample program does not fail. I have MAX_AIO_TASKS in usrConfig.h set to 10. Questions: 1. Any ideas on what is happening? How do I fix it? 2. Anyone else experiencing slow TSR handling by WRS tech support? 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I'm including my > sample program source code. The executable is compiled with Green Hills > Multi 1.8.9. I load and [snip] > 2. Anyone else experiencing slow TSR handling by WRS tech support? Yes. 9 working days and counting. Its absolutely pathetic. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: vxworks and xmodem protocol Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:31:17 -0800 From: DrDiags Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3A994F75.34D7E657@flashcom.net> References: <3A981465.2EB50160@home.com> Reply-To: drdiags@flashcom.net Matt, Your link is a very good resource! Someone had asked a couple of months ago on this newsgroup about curses on vxWorks and sure enough, there it is right on your link. Thanks! Amy Michaelis wrote: > Hi, > > Here is a link to some vxWorks archives. I ported an xmodem/ymodem package > to vxworks, and it resides here. > It's been a while since I looked at it, but it should be pretty easy to > adapt to your needs. There are six files to the package in a unix shell > archive format. > > ftp://ftp.atd.ucar.edu/pub/vxworks/vx/ > > Matt Michaelis > > Tom Flynn wrote in message > news:3A981465.2EB50160@home.com... > > I have an application (vxworks platform) that needs to download to > > another system via RS232 and xmodem. The method of download cannot be > > changed due to the system at the other end. > > > > I can't seem to find any information on the xmodem protocol in any of > > the vxworks literature. Does vxworks have any library or driver calls > > for this protocol? > > > > Xmodem has been around so long that there must be some canned routines > > for this. All I need to do is download some data to the other device. > > > > Thanks. > > > > -Tom > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: RE: comp.os.vxworks newsdigest Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:22:35 +0530 From: "LakshmiNarayan" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <97cl9m$lt5$1@overload.lbl.gov> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_016B_01C09D7A.2885C440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I am on leave , I will be back in office on 26th Feb . 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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 06:48:20 GMT From: Craig Vanderborgh Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <3A99FC33.6C90AAFF@voxware.com> References: <%ekl6.145$kd4.3424@news2.bora.net> <982924461.600174@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> Werner Schiendl wrote: > Hi werner et al. I read the citation you gave from the VxWorks dox over a year ago and decided to ignore it then. I built a condition var (pthread_cond_**) for our pthreads package, and it has worked perfectly in a very demanding application for some time now. I think that the semaphore facility is not "more general" at all. This is because semaphores cannot provide synchronization primitives that can map into a condition variable/mutex pair. Rather than accomodate this strangeness in tens of thousands of lines of our core code, I decided to implement a condition variable using a message queue and taskSuspend/resume. This approach has been extremely successful, and does not force the use of "semaphores", which as you must know have absolutely no place in code written for pthreads. The real solution is that Wind River REALLY SHOULD provide pthreads themselves. Everyone I've talked to who is using VxWorks has had the "where's pthreads?" dilemma. I hope WRS gets its act together someday. Until then, implementing more modern synchronization primitives out out things like taskSuspend/Resume seems to me to be necessary. Regards, Craig Vanderborgh Voxware Incorporated > Hi, > > you should not use taskSuspend to implement sleeping/delaying a task > > cite from VxWorks Reference Guide: > > + This routine is the basis of the debugging and exception handling > packages. > + However, as a synchronization mechanism, this facility should be rejected > + in favor of the more general semaphore facility. > > end of cite > > to delay/sleep for a fixed time use taskDelay() > to wait for some event consider semaphores > > hth > werner > > À̽½ wrote in message > news:%ekl6.145$kd4.3424@news2.bora.net... > > Dear all. > > > > I'm a biginner on VxWorks. > > On the project, my job, I use "taskSuspend" to suspend a task for some > time > > as below. > > > > FOREVER { > > if ( iAmActive ) > > do something; > > else > > taskSuspend (myTaskId); > > } > > > > While, if the "some time" would be "very long time", then what will be > > happened > > on the system ? > > I did not test the "taskSuspend" function for "long time" yet. > > > > > > Any dear konw? > > > > > > Thanks a lot. > > > > > > iiseull > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: request Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:40:38 +0100 From: "Maxx Vernimmen" Organization: Internet Access Eindhoven, the Netherlands Message-ID: <97d4q8$305$1@news.IAEhv.nl> Hi, I'm new with vxworks, I haven't even gotten my setup yet. I'm asked to implement some software to measure throughput of ip traffic. to do this I was thinking of usign vxwork's ipstatshow(), udpstatshow() and routestatshow(). But since I don't have a setup and I'm already required to do the design I don't know what the output of these commands looks like. Hence I don't know whether they are any use for me. The manual didn't help me either. So my request is: Could somebody please post the output format of these 3 commands? thanks, Maxx --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: request Date: 26 Feb 2001 09:15:13 GMT From: Johan Borkhuis Organization: Lucent Technologies, Nieuwegein NL Message-ID: <97d6r1$9j4$1@news1.xs4all.nl> References: <97d4q8$305$1@news.IAEhv.nl> Maxx Vernimmen wrote: : Hi, : I'm new with vxworks, I haven't even gotten my setup yet. : I'm asked to implement some software to measure throughput of ip traffic. : to do this I was thinking of usign vxwork's ipstatshow(), udpstatshow() and : routestatshow(). : But since I don't have a setup and I'm already required to do the design I : don't know what the output of these commands looks like. Hence I don't know : whether they are any use for me. : The manual didn't help me either. Try downloading Tornado Prototyper. This is the full simulator version of VxWorks. AFAIK this also includes these network show routines. Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . ______________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@lucent.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|___________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: tffs on PPMC750 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:49:42 +0530 From: "Venkatesh JS" Organization: Motorola Message-ID: <97d9st$91h$1@newshost.mot.com> hi. Has any one tried including TFFS component on PPMC750 board ? I have MTD and socket layer code for AMD series NOR flash devices which holds good for flash device on PPMC750 card(Am29DL323C). This MTD uses Common Flash Interface(CFI) to program the flash. We can get device and manufacturer details from flash device by sending some command sequences on some specified address(Given in Command defination tables in AMD product literature). But my code fails to get this detail. After writing command sequences , when i try to read the result i am not able to get any valid information. My MTD code uses this logic to write command sequence: WriteCmdSequence(FLASH_BASE_ADRS,0x00aa00aa, 0x555) { adrs = FLASH_BASE_ADRS + 8 * (0x555); *adrs = 0x00aa00aa; } Here 0x00aa00aa is command sequence defined by AMD and 0x555 is address specified by AMD product guide. I have given flash base address as 0xfff00000. Does any one know how solve this problem ? After a recent suggestion, i tried writing into PPMC750 mapped addresses for flash address.(Given in PPMC750 programmers manual). that is if flash address is 0x000555, then i wrote at 0xff000d55 etc. This also did not work. Any ideas on this ? regds, venkat --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:43:13 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97df5c$r8r$4@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <9760rf$3jd$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <977446$rgs$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776v3$i0c$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <32ae9t4vdf1l1ipgn5k22onmvvk8d5uabm@4ax.com> <977b6n$n4g$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <0lfe9tcql2rvjdith255bektq42r5tnnjl@4ax.com> <977vu1$2td$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <979nl7$n62$9@intimidator.databasix.com> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid cause > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>they are sober. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>He could have a point. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And clearly you have though of them all. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Not all of them, just most. I have got to leave myself something to do > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What you planning on doing after 20 years? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ops, I meant to say after the next 20 odd years. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, medically, my body will only be able to keep on drinking > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. So I'm going to have something to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >do after those 20 odd years are up... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You could just save up for a liver transplant. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Shit. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Do you realise how much time you just save me > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >with those 9 words? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> One of the benefits of age and experience. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Shit, well I owe you. The first shout is on me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Though you better print this off and bring it with you for proof as > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I will forget and deny most vigioursly that I said it. :) > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Nah, I don't care bout teh shouts!! I will just say "liver" over and > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> over til you buy me a drink!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That could work, depending on how much I already had already > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >had to drink, not enough and you would get your drink. To much > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and I would YELL "FUCK OFF" over and over until you bought > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >me 3 rounds. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That would work, I am sensitive and I will buy drinks for someone > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> yelling "FUCK OFF" until they stop! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >That is very interesting. Though I wouldn't take advantage, after a > >> >> >> >> >> >> >bit of yelling my throat would get dry. And then I would have to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >concentrate on the drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> I figure that is teh best way to end teh argument. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Yep, just agree to shut the fuck up and let the drinking do the talking. > >> >> >> >> >> >And no, I never played footy. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> What? Who said anything about teh footy? And ask Ward for me, what > >> >> >> >> >> happened to Teh Bombers in teh first round of teh Ansett cup? Port > >> >> >> >> >> whatever, I don't think so. Are they playing coy? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >No, I don't think they are, cause they just got beaten by Geelong. HAHAHA. > >> >> >> >> >I think Ward has gone camping. But I will ask him when he gets back. > >> >> >> >> >My quote 'let the drinking do the talking' was a rip off of a bad quote that fighters > >> >> >> >> >and football players use when talking about football. I though you might have > >> >> >> >> >recognised it. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Nah, missed that one, nevermind. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards > >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! > >> >> > > >> >> >Quite funny too. > >> >> > > >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get > >> >> reasonable odds for the season. > >> > > >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. > >> > > >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. > > > >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. > > > Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on > the Bulldogs and made a killing! Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a good wake up call for the bombers. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:45:48 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97dfa4$r8r$7@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97610a$3jd$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <03jd9tsnetmuod49ioiltk81ac4rq3p1c1@4ax.com> <9773qg$qf8$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <677e9tg3o9enm8va3fc8icgr9kbmk0bouf@4ax.com> <9776np$i0c$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <977bc4$n4g$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <97807o$2td$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <029g9tsekd4l7mnrir85qsm0p9ln9l2vu3@4ax.com> <979nrm$n62$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <50ug9tkirb824jmqfsvln0nm9 Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> SUBSCRIBE!!!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Um... The posibilities. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It is a worry, isn't it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, but it would be interesting to try... > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Sad, but true!!! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >I now have a mission in life. Get with a nice nurse to > >> >> >> >> >> >try that out... > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Everyone needs a hobby. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >No hobby, it's now the meaning for my existance. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> I went out with a nurse for a while, she was nice too... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Did she, like change your sheets, fluf your pillow and all that stuf? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> And gave the bestest head, don't know why I let her go, really. > >> >> > > >> >> >As The Mark Of Cain sing 'Hindsight is a great thing'. > >> >> > > >> >> She did have great arse too, did you know her? > >> >> (Damn, I think I am turning into Moul!) > >> > > >> >Oh, please don't. And no, I didn't know here. Well I could have, > >> >but as I don't know who your talking about if a bit hard to say yes > >> >or no without any chance of error. > >> > > >> Good point. I have fairly high opinion of nurses as girlfriends, > >> though. Possibly it's the uniforms. > > > >That's part of the attraction there. Though you can transfer that to women > >in police or the defence forces as well. But we know their all dykes. > > > Whereas all nurses are straight, everyone knows that. Yep. But the only time I was in hospital all the ugly nurses were looking after me. Only one good looking one in sight. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:44:54 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97df8i$r8r$6@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <97740c$rgs$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776po$i0c$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <35ae9top89tlu9ksp0bqo13tr8066m3fh6@4ax.com> <977bb1$n4g$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <978054$2td$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <979not$n62$11@intimidator.databasix.com> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >> >> >> >clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >> >> >> >anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live > >> >> >> >> >> >with. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >> >> >> >find. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >> >> >> >actually > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >get > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, > >> >> >> >> >> >you > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> don't > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >> >> >> >hours > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> after, > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >> >> >> >pissed > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> while > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >every > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >> >> >> >you > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >> >> >> >vodka > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> generally > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >set > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >> >> >> >you > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >don't > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >machines > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do > >> >> >> >> >> >the > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >job > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>talking about? > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >> >> >> >could see > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >were the whites... > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>Actually that does work... > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >> >> >> >off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got > >> >> >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this > >> >> >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too > >> >> >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the > >> >> >> >> worst! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? > >> >> > > >> >> >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few > >> >> >years he might start to learn. > >> >> > > >> >> That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew > >> >> on the floor. > >> > > >> >I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as > >> >a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to > >> >get to either a sick, toilet or outside. > >> >Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but > >> >I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it > >> >and quiet a bit more in the sink. > >> > > >> I think it is an alcohol tolerance thing, or just practice. > > > >I don't think so. I tend to think it is maturity. I know that Rob can drink a > >little bit more than me on a big night, I just know when to stop. > > > Drinking through to alcohol poisoning is usually a mistake. Or a sign of stupidity! Wow, that means Rob. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:44:07 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <9760ue$3jd$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <9773td$rgs$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776s9$i0c$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <53ae9t4cpjp2hvecq02oo0katra3chdqou@4ax.com> <977b94$n4g$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <978003$2td$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <5t8g9tov0udchtfkl9sum9mi2g00hn4lr8@4ax.com> <979nm6$n62$10@intimidator.databasix.com> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >> >> >> >> clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >> >> >> >> anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live > >> >> >> >> >> >> with. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >> >> >> >> find. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >> >> >> >> actually > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, > >> >> >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >> >> >> >> hours > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> after, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >> >> >> >> pissed > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> while > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >every > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >> >> >> >> vodka > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> generally > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> set > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >machines > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do > >> >> >> >> >> >> the > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >job > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>talking about? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >> >> >> >> could see > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >were the whites... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Actually that does work... > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >> >> >> >> off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Ah shucks DaveK. I really apreciate that. I'm currently finished with > >> >> >> >> >> >the C&N scotch and am now onto the JD. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> You mean you don't start with teh good stuff? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Nah, I work my way up to it. If I started with JD, then went to C&N when > >> >> >> >> >I ran out of JD it would ruin the whole experience. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Almost as much as actually sobering up would ruin the experience? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Yeah, so last night, I started off C&N and then at the end of the > >> >> >> >night I had a few quiet JD's and it was nice... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> I can see your point, its just that I like the first two to taste > >> >> >> nice, then when I am pissed I don't care anymore. > >> >> > > >> >> >I usually subscrube to that theory, but sometimes even you would be > >> >> >amazed at the difference. > >> >> > > >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> comparison! > >> > > >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> > > >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > > > >Dam, then why drink it? > > > To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like C&N scotch though. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:28:57 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:42:25 >-0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated >this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >of alt.usenet.kooks : > >>Optional Identity wrote in message ... >>>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:44:00 >>>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>>alt.usenet.kooks : >>> >>>>Optional Identity wrote: >>>> >>>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:16:31 >>>>> -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated >>>>> this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >>>>> of alt.usenet.kooks : >>>>> >>>>> >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >>>>> >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:59:30 >>>>> >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>>>> >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>>>> >>alt.usenet.kooks : >>>>> >> >>>>> >>>Dave Korn wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >>>>> >>>> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com>... >>>>> >>>> >Dave Korn wrote: >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >>>>> >>>> >> <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... >>>>> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >>clever. >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >>anywhere. >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live >>with. >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >>find. >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >>actually >>>>> >get >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, >>you >>>>> >>>> don't >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you >>>>> >stop. >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >>hours >>>>> >>>> after, >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >>pissed >>>>> >>>> while >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up >>>>> >anyway. >>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that >>>>> >every >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >>you >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>> >>>> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >>vodka >>>>> >>>> generally >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >>>>> >>>> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >>set >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >>you >>>>> >don't >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those >>>>> >machines >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do >>the >>>>> >job >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> DaveK >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >>>>> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >>>>> >>talking about? >>>>> > >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >>could see >>>>> >were the whites... >>>>> > >>>>> > DaveK >>>>> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >>>> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >>>> >>>Actually that does work... >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> DaveK > >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's nice clean alcohol. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. >-- > >Optional Identity > >Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! >Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, >Hace you had your little death today? >N'est ce pas? >http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) >Skepticult Rank: Colonel >Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 >I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:52:19 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <974eqj$esl$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <27mb9t4f3qbv2lf5pumit9los46mm6bj3c@4ax.com> <97617h$3jd$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <94jd9t41hsq04q8oiueng236pn6onrq7i3@4ax.com> <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:02:56 >+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >alt.usenet.kooks : > >>Optional Identity wrote: >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >>> >> >> >> don't!!! >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >>> >> > >>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >>> >> > >>> >> Don't mind if I do... >>> > >>> >Well, while your there... >>> > >>> Double be ok? >> >>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >>better have both. Fuck. >> >Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. I'll help ya with that spare one! DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. >-- > >Optional Identity > >Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! >Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, >Hace you had your little death today? >N'est ce pas? >http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) >Skepticult Rank: Colonel >Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 >I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:50:51 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <96vgsv$h40$1@news.etri.re.kr> <3A938FB6.6080503@snellwilcox.com> Kris wrote in message ... >I found that when I had "???" in your code, the compiler complained that I >had trigraph(s), even if the "???" was in a comment. > >Kris Trigraphs still count in comments because any character you might want to put in your code but don't have a key for is also a character you might want to put in a comment but not have a key for. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:28:56 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <97dle7$b5$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <%ekl6.145$kd4.3424@news2.bora.net> <982924461.600174@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <3A99FC33.6C90AAFF@voxware.com> Hi, Craig Could you explain a little on condition variable/mutex and how to utilize message queue and taskSuspend/resume? An example code would be appreciated. Thanks Xiaoguang Craig Vanderborgh wrote in message news:3A99FC33.6C90AAFF@voxware.com... > Werner Schiendl wrote: > > > Hi werner et al. > > I read the citation you gave from the VxWorks dox over a year ago and > decided to ignore it then. I built a condition var (pthread_cond_**) > for our pthreads package, and it has worked perfectly in a very demanding > application for some time now. I think that the semaphore facility > is not "more general" at all. This is because semaphores cannot provide > synchronization primitives that can map into a condition variable/mutex > pair. Rather than accomodate this strangeness in tens of thousands of > lines of our core code, I decided to implement a condition variable > using a message queue and taskSuspend/resume. This approach has been > extremely successful, and does not force the use of "semaphores", which > as you must know have absolutely no place in code written for pthreads. > > The real solution is that Wind River REALLY SHOULD provide pthreads > themselves. Everyone I've talked to who is using VxWorks has had the > "where's pthreads?" dilemma. I hope WRS gets its act together someday. > Until then, implementing more modern synchronization primitives out > out things like taskSuspend/Resume seems to me to be necessary. > > Regards, > Craig Vanderborgh > Voxware Incorporated > > > Hi, > > > > you should not use taskSuspend to implement sleeping/delaying a task > > > > cite from VxWorks Reference Guide: > > > > + This routine is the basis of the debugging and exception handling > > packages. > > + However, as a synchronization mechanism, this facility should be rejected > > + in favor of the more general semaphore facility. > > > > end of cite > > > > to delay/sleep for a fixed time use taskDelay() > > to wait for some event consider semaphores > > > > hth > > werner > > > > À̽½ wrote in message > > news:%ekl6.145$kd4.3424@news2.bora.net... > > > Dear all. > > > > > > I'm a biginner on VxWorks. > > > On the project, my job, I use "taskSuspend" to suspend a task for some > > time > > > as below. > > > > > > FOREVER { > > > if ( iAmActive ) > > > do something; > > > else > > > taskSuspend (myTaskId); > > > } > > > > > > While, if the "some time" would be "very long time", then what will be > > > happened > > > on the system ? > > > I did not test the "taskSuspend" function for "long time" yet. > > > > > > > > > Any dear konw? > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot. > > > > > > > > > iiseull > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: target shell, and i() Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:33:16 GMT From: kimp@avtecinc.com (Kim Putnam) Organization: Info Avenue Internet Services Message-ID: <3a9a7664.11027390@192.168.1.214> Okay. My original intent was to use a startup script to load some runtime libs, then use usrAppInit() to load my program, and spawn a task. Here is my question. This executes okay, but when I try to use i() at the target I get : i= 0x3beaa80: value =0=0x0 If I execute i() form the shell from the tornado shell, I get a list of tasks with info. I tought maybe this was due to the startup script. So I removed it and added the apporpriate code to usrAppInit(). I am stummped I am using tornado 2.0, vxworks 5.4, vmic 7715 with DOC. K --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: A32 Addressing Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:49:30 -0500 From: Ken Romelli Organization: Raytheon Company Message-ID: <3A9A7B0A.377B939@raytheon.com> I'm having a problem mapping the Extended VME A32 master window. I'm using a MV2700 board. If I use the default master window (not Extended VME) of only 128Mb of VME address space, everything works fine. As in I'm able to use sysBusToLocalAdrs() to get an address of a board on the VME and read/write to it. For example: #define VME_A32_MSTR_BUS 0x08000000 /* Base VME address */ #define VME_A32_MSTR_SIZE 0x08000000 If I switch to Extended VME (define EXTENDED_VME in config.h.), shift the window as required and increase the size to 256Mb everything still appears to works fine. For example: #define VME_A32_MSTR_BUS 0x10000000 #define VME_A32_MSTR_SIZE 0x10000000 However, if I increase the window to the size that I actually need (1Gb) VxWorks hangs on a read/write to the VME and everything "locks up" even though the sysBusToLocalAdrs() returns success. For example #define VME_A32_MSTR_BUS 0x10000000 #define VME_A32_MSTR_SIZE 0x40000000 The documentation says that I should (using Extended VME) be able to map up to 3.6Gb and that I can use the range 0x10000000 to 0xEA000000. Is there something else I need to set/define in config.h? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Ken - -- Ken Romelli, Senior Software Engineer II Raytheon C3I Strategic Systems "This is my personal opinion and not that of my employer." --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:28:08 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <96vgsv$h40$1@news.etri.re.kr> <3A938FB6.6080503@snellwilcox.com> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>> Kris wrote in message ... >> I found that when I had "???" in your code, the compiler >> complained that I had trigraph(s), even if the "???" was in a >> comment. >>>>> "DK" == Dave Korn writes: DK> Trigraphs still count in comments because any character you DK> might want to put in your code but don't have a key for is also a DK> character you might want to put in a comment but not have a key DK> for. Well, obviously they count. However, is it productive for GCC to give a warning? I don't think so. The effect is only that the trigraph would be interpreted as something else to the preprocessor and discarded. So I think that warning about trigraphs in comments are pretty useless; even if the do `count'. Of course something like, #if 0 ??=endif #endif would cause problems, but generally that would throw another error. It is disturbing to people who don't know what they are doing to see these errors. I guess they get to learn something; this is exactly how I learned about trigraphs. regards, Bill - -- Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: problem on using objcopyppc Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:44:55 -0500 From: "Jason Jiang" Organization: Verio Message-ID: References: <97b8fo$bit$1@news1.xs4all.nl> Thank you very much!!! "Johan Borkhuis" wrote in message news:97b8fo$bit$1@news1.xs4all.nl... > Jason Jiang wrote: > : I wanted to burn the vxWorks image into the boot flash. I could not use 'ld' > : command, while the vxWorks images was running. So I used fopen(), fread() to > : read the image into my local memory, then used flash driver to burn it into > : the boot flash. But it cannot bring up the processor, because when booting > : up, the system will begin executing from the beginning of the boot flash, > : which contains the header of the image, instead of the executable code (text > : segment). > : Because of this, I tried to use "objcopyppc" command to strip the image and > : get text segment only. But I didn't know how to use this command. The only > : help I got was as below. Who can help please? > > The manual page is in the GNU tools section of the help. > > Groeten, > Johan > > -- > o o o o o o o . . . ______________________________ > o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | > .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@lucent.com | > >(________|__|_[_________]_|___________________________| > _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` > === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: How do I get the MAC address using vxWorks API? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:24:20 -0800 From: "Anil Dadlani" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <97e307$cdg$1@overload.lbl.gov> > Hi, > > I need to read the MAC address of a Ethernet chip. How do I get this using > vxWorks APIs? > We do have a lower level BSP API which stores this 6 byte address into the > driver control structure (etherEndDevice) > I found: > ifunit ("ln0") function which returns the ifnet structure. Which field has > the MAC address? > > > Thanks > > Anil > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: T2 man pages??? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:31:24 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983208952.572320@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3A8AE8FE.D8334752@sis-dev.com> <982926857.174058@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> > Just a decent Sun 20 inch monitor. better on a 24 inch. quality of > graphics > and monitor matter a bunch. It's kinda like the old adage, "spend as much > on your speakers as much as you do on the rest of the system". If you spend > hours a day, the monitor is where the rubber meets the road. Quality > monitors > are much cheaper now. as far as i know, sony still makes the best > monitors. There is nothing to add to this point... > > I suspect you can't get 6 80x25 xterms on an inteldows screen unless you're > using an Xserver product connected to a unix box Likely mac users can do > the same? > > why xterm? count the mouse clicks between a unix xterm cut/paste (2) and an > inteldows cut/paste. then u'll know. I never use the mouse but always use keyboard shortcuts while programming. (Ctrl-C [Ctrl|Alt]-Tab Ctrl-V for that example) But I would agree that the positioning of windows is often a pain (in almost any IDE I know of). One thing I was glad when changing from an old fashioned DOS IDE to Windows was the ability to have more than 25 lines at once on the screen. But this is of course a question of taste. - - werner --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:35:50 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983209218.811031@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <96vgsv$h40$1@news.etri.re.kr> <3A938FB6.6080503@snellwilcox.com> > Well, obviously they count. However, is it productive for GCC to give > a warning? I don't think so. If it soes not change the effect of a program (if compiled with a system that does trigraph conversion) I would agree with that. But for the rest of possible occurences I think it makes sense. Just take my favorite example: printf("What??!"); I think it is better to have a warning and learn about the problem than one day finding the program misbehaving because it is compiled on an other system or compiler. Just my 2 cent werner --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: make for Win32? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:37:43 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983209331.812085@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <973oh8$hoh$1@overload.lbl.gov> <3a9577fc.254627795@news> <982925190.691726@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> Thank you Dave for the tip, I will check that out! Do you know of a way to make the wildcard and other make functions work with that? Is this automatically done in that version of make? thanks again! werner --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:46:21 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983209849.839504@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <%ekl6.145$kd4.3424@news2.bora.net> <982924461.600174@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <3A99FC33.6C90AAFF@voxware.com> Craig, There is no doubt that the feature may be used for some special needs. But I think it should be done with care, if the docs mention not to do it. I'm not familiar with the pthreads concept you mention... maybe you can clarify that I bit to me... have fun werner --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How do I get the MAC address using vxWorks API? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:31:16 -0500 From: Newbie Organization: UUNET Canada News Reader Service Message-ID: <3A9AA0F4.6C635049@NoSuchAddress.com> References: <97e307$cdg$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi Anil, I believe (struct arpcom *) ifPtr)->ac_enaddr is the Mac address you wants (it has 6 bytes), ifPtr = ifunit("ln0"). Anil Dadlani wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I need to read the MAC address of a Ethernet chip. How do I get this > using > > vxWorks APIs? > > We do have a lower level BSP API which stores this 6 byte address into the > > driver control structure (etherEndDevice) > > I found: > > ifunit ("ln0") function which returns the ifnet structure. Which field > has > > the MAC address? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Anil > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:26:49 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <96vgsv$h40$1@news.etri.re.kr> <3A938FB6.6080503@snellwilcox.com> <983209218.811031@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >> Bill Pringlemeir wrote: >> Well, obviously they count. However, is it productive for GCC to >> give a warning? I don't think so. >>>>> "Werner" == Werner Schiendl writes: Werner> If it soes not change the effect of a program (if compiled Werner> with a system that does trigraph conversion) I would agree Werner> with that. But for the rest of possible occurences I think Werner> it makes sense. Werner> Just take my favorite example: printf("What??!"); Werner> I think it is better to have a warning and learn about the Werner> problem than one day finding the program misbehaving because Werner> it is compiled on an other system or compiler. I don't think that you read my entire message or my meaning was unclear! The compiler shouldn't give a warning in code that is not producing anything. Like comments and unused conditional. What you did quote was quite out of context. Obviously, printf("What??!"); by itself would be a good place to warn. However some constructs wouldn't be. Surely this one isn't needed, /* What??! */ And cases like this are somewhat questionable to warn of... #if 0 printf("What??!") #endif The compiler wouldn't warn of a missing semi-colon, but it would warn of the trigraph. Obviously this warning is being done by the preprocessor. It has information as to what a comment is and what conditions are active. Is my meaning clear now? regards, Bill Pringlemeir - -- Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Debugging with Cache Enabled Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:43:13 -0000 From: "Kelvin Lawson" Message-ID: <97e83j$p3u95$1@ID-56276.news.dfncis.de> References: <973b0g$ng5gc$1@ID-56276.news.dfncis.de> <3A965E39.68446BCB@prodigy.net> Cheers for your responses everyone. Comments below: George> When you enable the MMU, I assume the caches are enabled throughout George> most of the address space? By any chance, when you lose contact, is George> the 755 really hot? This is just a hunch, but you might try throttling George> the ICache. Of course, there could be many other explanations for George> what you're seeing. I have tried a cache throttle of 5 cycles - I will try increasing this. Your comments reminded me to try turning cache off. I have now discovered that it is cache to blame, not MMU. I can debug with MMU on, *as long as* cache is turned off. It was the cache bits in HID0 which sent the debugger astray. I can easily recreate this by stepping through code in vCLICK. As soon as I enable the data or instruction caches (either by setting the bits in HID0 or using the buttons on the cache window) the debugger will fail. After one step the PC becomes 0 and the debugger is unusable/connection is lost. Is anyone familiar with problems using vClick with the cache turned on ? Talking of throttling the cache, I have also discovered that vClick is not displaying my ICTC throttle SPR correctly. My code gives me the expected value for it, while vClick just reports that it is 0. I'm not sure how many other SPRs are not being displayed correctly under vClick but I do know that I have very little faith in this tool! It can be priceless when it works, but it's just so inconsistent. Bill> I have also seen BDM/Jtag devices exhibit this type of behavior if the Bill> interface pins aren't all connected properly. For instance if the Bill> vClick wants a RESET line and the hardware doesn't provide this. Bill> However, since it does work without MMU this seems less likely especially Bill> since you seem to be using an off the shelf board. Actually I wouldn't count on it - although it's an off the shelf board, it doesn't seem to be used extensively as it's quite new so there may be hidden problems. We're using the Scout board (755 with slave 8260). Perhaps this is a hardware-related issue. We are also unable to set any software breakpoints, we have to make do with one Hardware Break! If we set a soft break it corrupts the instruction where it is placed and generally just doesn't work. We therefore have the side effect of not being able to step over function calls etc. which I believe use soft breaks. Such is life. Thanks for your advice, Kelvin. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:59:41 GMT From: Craig Vanderborgh Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <3A9AA785.74936F97@voxware.com> References: <%ekl6.145$kd4.3424@news2.bora.net> <982924461.600174@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <3A99FC33.6C90AAFF@voxware.com> <97dle7$b5$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Sure, I'd be glad to explain a little bit about this stuff. "Pthreads" stands for "POSIX Threads", and is the subject of the POSIX 1003.x series of specifications. Pthreads is the most widely used threads API, and is supported on everything from Solaris and almost all Unix variants, to VMS, Linux, and beyond. Let's just say that "pthreads" is supported on the majority platforms so it is very wise to use that API. Whether or not it is provided by a given vendor. Thus, when we discovered that Wind River does not provide pthreads, we decided to implement it ourselves out of their synchronization calls. In general it makes much more sense to "implement pthreads" than to pollute code with Wind River's proprietary and anachronistic threads calls. This was straightforward to do, except for the mutex/condition variable pair I mentioned in my last message. The use of a mutex/condition variable pair provides a "critical section" for protecting data shared between threads. An example of actual use of a mutex/condition var pair is provided by our mailbox facility, which implements a synchronized message passing facility similar to the WRS message queue. Both the mailbox insertion and removal methods require a critical section, so you can pretty easily see how it all is supposed to work, and how the sender thread ends up notifying the receiver thread when a message is inserted: Bool MBOX_insert(MBOX mailbox, OBJT message) /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * DESCRIPTION * Insert a message into a mailbox, optionally waiting * Usage: success = MBOX_insert(mailbox, message); * * Bool success; TRUE if successful, FALSE otherwise * MBOX mailbox; mailbox to insert the message into * OBJT message; message to insert into the mailbox * * Return: TRUE if message is inserted *---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ { pthread_mutex_lock(&mailbox->mutex); while (mailbox->numMessages >= mailbox->attributes->maxMessages) pthread_cond_wait(&mailbox->notFull, &mailbox->mutex); mailbox->mailbox[mailbox->lastMessage++] = message; if (mailbox->lastMessage == mailbox->attributes->maxMessages) mailbox->lastMessage = 0; mailbox->numMessages++; pthread_cond_signal(&mailbox->notEmpty); pthread_mutex_unlock(&mailbox->mutex); return(TRUE); } OBJT MBOX_remove(MBOX mailbox) /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * DESCRIPTION * Remove a message from a mailbox optionally waiting for one if * none is available * Usage: message = MBOX_remove(mailbox); * * OBJT message; message removed from the mailbox * MBOX mailbox; mailbox to remove the message from * * Return: message OBJT if message is removed *---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ { OBJT message = (OBJT) NULL; pthread_mutex_lock(&mailbox->mutex); while (mailbox->numMessages == 0) pthread_cond_wait(&mailbox->notEmpty, &mailbox->mutex); message = mailbox->mailbox[mailbox->firstMessage++]; if (mailbox->firstMessage == mailbox->attributes->maxMessages) mailbox->firstMessage = 0; mailbox->numMessages--; pthread_cond_signal(&mailbox->notFull); pthread_mutex_unlock(&mailbox->mutex); return (message); } The condition variable is what makes it all work. If the receiver tries to remove a message and there is none, it goes to "sleep" on the condition variable, and waits for a message to arrive. The sender, when it sends the message, notifies the receiver that there is a message to read via pthread_cond_signal(). The "signal" causes the receiver to "wake up", reacquire the lock, and get the message. It's pretty simple, but be ABSOLUTELY SURE to structure your own code this way, because code that uses mutex/cvpair to implement a critical section MUST guard against something known as "spurious wakeups". That's why the condition (mailbox->numMessages == 0) is tested in a "while" loop. This is very important! Anyway, it's pretty easy to build pthreads on top of VxWorks, except for the condition variable. For that, we had to do some thinking, and we came up with a scheme using taskSuspend/Resume in conjunction with a WRS msgQ. Here is what that implementation looks like: (pthr.h fragment..) #if defined(VXWORKS) && !defined(REAL_PTHREADS) #include "errno.h" #include "objLib.h" #include "taskLib.h" #include "sched.h" #include "timers.h" #include "msgQLib.h" #include "semLib.h" #define PTHR_SUCCESS 0 #define PTHR_FAILURE -1 #define TICKNSEC (4) #define PRI_VBX_MAX (0) #define PRI_VBX_MIN (255) #define PRI_JNI_DFLT (114) typedef Int pthread_t; typedef Int pthread_cond_attr_t; typedef SEM_ID pthread_mutex_t; typedef struct pthread_cond_s { MSG_Q_ID waitersMsgQ; Bool defunct; } pthread_cond_t; Int pthread_cond_init(pthread_cond_t *, const pthread_cond_attr_t *); Int pthread_cond_destroy(pthread_cond_t *); Int pthread_cond_wait(pthread_cond_t *, pthread_mutex_t *); Int pthread_cond_timedwait(pthread_cond_t *, pthread_mutex_t *, const struct timespec *); Int pthread_cond_signal(pthread_cond_t *); pthread_t pthread_self(); Char *strdup(const Char *); #endif (pthr.c fragment..) /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * The following functions emulate pthreads routines as accurately as * possible by calling native VxWorks threads and synchronization primitives *---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ #define PTHR_MAX_WAITERS 20 Int pthread_cancel(pthread_t thread) /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * DESCRIPTION * Request that the specified thread terminate execution *---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ { return (taskDelete(thread) == OK) ? 0 : -1; } Int pthread_cond_init(pthread_cond_t * cond , const pthread_cond_attr_t * attr) /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * DESCRIPTION * Initialize a condition variable *---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ { if (!cond) return PTHR_FAILURE; cond->defunct = TRUE; if ((cond->waitersMsgQ = msgQCreate(PTHR_MAX_WAITERS, sizeof(Int), MSG_Q_FIFO)) == NULL) return PTHR_FAILURE; cond->defunct = FALSE; return PTHR_SUCCESS; } Int pthread_cond_destroy(pthread_cond_t * cond) /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * DESCRIPTION * Destroy a condition variable *---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ { Int tid; if (!cond) return PTHR_FAILURE; cond->defunct = TRUE; while (msgQNumMsgs(cond->waitersMsgQ) > 0) { if (msgQReceive(cond->waitersMsgQ, (char *)&tid, sizeof(Int), WAIT_FOREVER) == ERROR) { VBX_print("ERROR: pthread_cond_signal can't read waiter tid\n"); return PTHR_FAILURE; } if (taskResume(tid) == ERROR) { VBX_print("ERROR: pthread_cond_signal can't restart task %d\n", tid); return PTHR_FAILURE; } } if (msgQDelete(cond->waitersMsgQ) == ERROR) { VBX_print("ERROR: pthread_cond_destroy can't delete msgQ!\n"); return PTHR_FAILURE; } return PTHR_SUCCESS; } Int pthread_cond_wait(pthread_cond_t * cond , pthread_mutex_t * mutex) /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * DESCRIPTION * Wait on a condition variable *---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ { Int tid, status; if (!cond || !mutex || cond->defunct) return PTHR_FAILURE; tid = taskIdSelf(); if (msgQSend(cond->waitersMsgQ, (char *) &tid, sizeof(Int), WAIT_FOREVER, MSG_PRI_NORMAL) == ERROR) { VBX_print("ERROR: pthread_cond_wait can't place taskId on waiters msgQ\n"); return PTHR_FAILURE; } if (pthread_mutex_unlock(mutex) != PTHR_SUCCESS) { VBX_print("ERROR: pthread_cond_wait can't unlock mutex %x\n", mutex); return PTHR_FAILURE; } if ((status = taskSuspend(tid)) != OK) { VBX_print("ERROR: pthread_cond_wait can't suspend task 5d\n", tid); return PTHR_FAILURE; } if (pthread_mutex_lock(mutex) != PTHR_SUCCESS) { VBX_print("ERROR: pthread_cond_wait can't reacquire mutex %x\n", mutex); return PTHR_FAILURE; } return PTHR_SUCCESS; } Int pthread_create(pthread_t * thread, pthread_attr_t * attr, pthread_startroutine_t fcn, void * arg) /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * DESCRIPTION *---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ { pthread_attr_t dfltAttr; Int tid; if (!attr) { pthread_attr_init(&dfltAttr); attr = &dfltAttr; } VBX_errorIf((*thread = taskSpawn(NULL, attr->prio, attr->options, attr->stack, (FUNCPTR) fcn, (int) arg, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0)) == ERROR); return (*thread != ERROR) ? PTHR_SUCCESS : PTHR_FAILURE; } void pthread_exit(void *status) /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * DESCRIPTION * Exit self and return the specified status. VxWorks does not allow any * status information to be returned. *---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ { taskDelete(taskIdSelf()); } Int pthread_get_expiration_np(struct timespec *delta, struct timespec *abstime) /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * DESCRIPTION * Add a specified interval to the current absolute time *---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ { clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, abstime); abstime->tv_sec += delta->tv_sec; abstime->tv_nsec += delta->tv_nsec; if (abstime->tv_nsec + delta->tv_nsec > 1000000000) { abstime->tv_sec++; abstime->tv_nsec -= 1000000000; } } Int pthread_getscheduler(pthread_t thread) /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * DESCRIPTION *---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ { return sched_getscheduler(thread); } Int pthread_join(pthread_t thread, void **status) /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * DESCRIPTION * Wait for the termination of the specified thread, and report its exit * status. This is the initial implementation in support of VxWorks, and * it is not acceptable for release. *---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ { STATUS retval; struct timespec ts = { 0, 100000000 }; /* Poll for the task until it no longer exists */ while (TRUE) { retval = taskIdVerify(thread); if (retval != OK) break; /* Sleep for 100 milliseconds before retry */ nanosleep(&ts, NULL); } return PTHR_SUCCESS; } Int pthread_mutex_init(pthread_mutex_t *mutex, pthread_mutexattr_t *attr) /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * DESCRIPTION *---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ { *mutex = semBCreate(0, SEM_FULL); return (*mutex != NULL) ? PTHR_SUCCESS : PTHR_FAILURE; } Int pthread_mutex_destroy(pthread_mutex_t *mutex) /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * DESCRIPTION *---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ { STATUS retval; retval = semDelete(*mutex); return (retval == OK) ? PTHR_SUCCESS : PTHR_FAILURE; } Int pthread_mutex_lock(pthread_mutex_t *mutex) /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * DESCRIPTION *---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ { STATUS retval; retval = semTake(*mutex, WAIT_FOREVER); return (retval == OK) ? PTHR_SUCCESS : PTHR_FAILURE; } Int pthread_mutex_unlock(pthread_mutex_t *mutex) /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * DESCRIPTION *---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ { return (semGive(*mutex) == OK) ? PTHR_SUCCESS : PTHR_FAILURE; } best regards, craig vanderborgh voxware incorporated "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" wrote: > > Hi, Craig > > Could you explain a little on condition variable/mutex and how to utilize > message queue and taskSuspend/resume? > > An example code would be appreciated. > > Thanks > Xiaoguang > > Craig Vanderborgh wrote in message > news:3A99FC33.6C90AAFF@voxware.com... > > Werner Schiendl wrote: > > > > > Hi werner et al. > > > > I read the citation you gave from the VxWorks dox over a year ago and > > decided to ignore it then. I built a condition var (pthread_cond_**) > > for our pthreads package, and it has worked perfectly in a very demanding > > application for some time now. I think that the semaphore facility > > is not "more general" at all. This is because semaphores cannot provide > > synchronization primitives that can map into a condition variable/mutex > > pair. Rather than accomodate this strangeness in tens of thousands of > > lines of our core code, I decided to implement a condition variable > > using a message queue and taskSuspend/resume. This approach has been > > extremely successful, and does not force the use of "semaphores", which > > as you must know have absolutely no place in code written for pthreads. > > > > The real solution is that Wind River REALLY SHOULD provide pthreads > > themselves. Everyone I've talked to who is using VxWorks has had the > > "where's pthreads?" dilemma. I hope WRS gets its act together someday. > > Until then, implementing more modern synchronization primitives out > > out things like taskSuspend/Resume seems to me to be necessary. > > > > Regards, > > Craig Vanderborgh > > Voxware Incorporated > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > you should not use taskSuspend to implement sleeping/delaying a task > > > > > > cite from VxWorks Reference Guide: > > > > > > + This routine is the basis of the debugging and exception handling > > > packages. > > > + However, as a synchronization mechanism, this facility should be > rejected > > > + in favor of the more general semaphore facility. > > > > > > end of cite > > > > > > to delay/sleep for a fixed time use taskDelay() > > > to wait for some event consider semaphores > > > > > > hth > > > werner > > > > > > À̽½ wrote in message > > > news:%ekl6.145$kd4.3424@news2.bora.net... > > > > Dear all. > > > > > > > > I'm a biginner on VxWorks. > > > > On the project, my job, I use "taskSuspend" to suspend a task for some > > > time > > > > as below. > > > > > > > > FOREVER { > > > > if ( iAmActive ) > > > > do something; > > > > else > > > > taskSuspend (myTaskId); > > > > } > > > > > > > > While, if the "some time" would be "very long time", then what will be > > > > happened > > > > on the system ? > > > > I did not test the "taskSuspend" function for "long time" yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any dear konw? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot. > > > > > > > > > > > > iiseull > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: RE: How do I get the MAC address using vxWorks API? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:59:40 -0800 From: Jim Way Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <97ea16$evu$1@overload.lbl.gov> Here's how I do it: UINT8 macBuffer[8]; sysCpmEnetAddrGet(0, macBuffer); MacAddr = nlprintf("0x%02X%02X%02X%02X%02X%02X", macBuffer[0], macBuffer[1], macBuffer[2], macBuffer[3], macBuffer[4], macBuffer[5]); Jim - ----------------------------------------- Jim Way, Software Engineer Datum Austin (Austron Inc.) voice: 512.721.4170 fax : 512.990.9712 email: jwayATdatumDOTcom (no spam please) - ----------------------------------------- vxWorks Tornado II --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: TEST (DO NOT READ) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:47:55 GMT From: bboucher@earthlink.net (Bill Boucher) Organization: Boeing-SVS, Inc. Message-ID: Reply-To: bboucher@svsinc.com Test --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: A32 Addressing Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:41:16 -0600 From: Andrew Johnson Organization: APS, Argonne National Laboratory Message-ID: <3A9AB15C.73B230B2@aps.anl.gov> References: <3A9A7B0A.377B939@raytheon.com> Ken Romelli wrote: > > However, if I increase the window to the size that I actually need (1Gb) > VxWorks hangs on a read/write to the VME and everything "locks up" even > though the sysBusToLocalAdrs() returns success. For example > > #define VME_A32_MSTR_BUS 0x10000000 > #define VME_A32_MSTR_SIZE 0x40000000 > > The documentation says that I should (using Extended VME) be able to map > up to 3.6Gb and that I can use the range 0x10000000 to 0xEA000000. I'm not sure why your system is hanging up, or what you actually mean by "locks up", but it may be just taking a very long time creating page table entries. Note that on the 68K family using page tables (i.e. having a large A32 entry in sysPhysMemDesc[]) uses up 1KB of RAM per 1MB of mapped memory space, and a similar ratio will probably apply for the PPC. However you can set up the BAT registers to transparently map up to 1Gb of virtual memory to physical addresses - look at the sysBatDesc[] table towards the beginning of sysLib.c, and read chapter 7 of the "PowerPC Microprocessor Family: The Programming Environments" manual to get some idea what's going on under the hood. - - Andrew - -- Every great idea appears crazy to start with. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Linked List VME to PCI DMA with mv2604 and VxWorks 5.4 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:56:49 GMT From: bboucher@earthlink.net (Bill Boucher) Organization: Boeing-SVS, Inc. Message-ID: <5yym6.237$wJ2.23035@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Followup-To: bboucher@svsinc.com Reply-To: bboucher@svsinc.com All, I'm using VxWorks 5.4, and want to achieve linked-list-mode, VME to PCI data DMA transfers, via the Universe II chip DMA support that is built into the mv2604 BSP & (PowerPC architecture) kernel. I have direct-mode DMA transfers working (grabs N bytes from VME space and transfers the data to buffers in PCI space), but when I try a linked-list-mode transfer it never completes (the interrupt-driven transfer-complete semaphore times out after 60 seconds). The list contents seems right, and I know I'm pointing to it's start location correctly within PCI space. It (and each packet within it) does begin on a 32-byte boundary (as required). I set up the VME and packet-dependent PCI addresses, the number of bytes to transfer per packet, next packet's PCI address, and set the "null" bit, as specified in the Tundra manual, to indicate if the current packet is the last packet in the list. I'm sure I'm close, just missing some crucial piece. Please send advice (or a working example routine)! Thanks, --Bill ******************************************** Bill Boucher Realtime Systems Engineer Boeing-SVS Inc. 4411 The 25 Way NE, Ste 350 Albuquerque, NM 87109 (505) 342-4600 (front desk) (505) 449-4869 (direct line) (505) 875-7386 (pager) (505) 345-8303 (fax) bboucher@svsinc.com ******************************************** --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: ISA I/O with PPC Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:03:42 -0600 From: "Jim Loundagin" Organization: NAWCWPNS Message-ID: <97ec62$pqv1@news.nawcwpns.navy.mil> Hi, I'm working with an mv2700 and trying to get a C&T 69030 graphics chip to work with ugl 2.0 . What I am confused about is the driver has alot of sysByteOut commands into I/O space that is not mapped into the BAR's. Is there some sort of secret I/O space for graphics devices and is there are standard map for this. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Seeking detailed info on VxWorks. Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:34:57 -0600 From: Marek Klysewicz Organization: InternetConnect, Inc. - http://www.internetconnect.net/ Message-ID: <3A9ABDF1.6FDC8B02@chitech1.com> Hello Everybody, I am preparing groundwork for an integrated product and software development platform. For the product itself, MPC750 and MPMC860 (Power PC) hardware was selected. Selection of the operating system and development environment will be based on performance. VxWorks is being considered. Development platform most likely will be Windows NT. Here is a list of issues, which I have to resolve to establish suitability of VxWorks for our project, not necessarily in order of their significance: * Performance, based on some arbitrary PowerPC target, namely: * Context switching, * Interrupt latency, * Boot-up time, * Timing granularity, * System call overhead. * Kernel footprint for minimum, maximum, and typical set of services. * Support for MPC750 * Support for MPMC860, and / or CPV3060. * Cost of basic development tools. * Cost of available add-ons. * Licensing scheme. * Support options with their respective cost. * Availability and cost of third party tools and services. * Customers training: available classes and their respective cost. Any help in addressing these issues will be appreciated. If somebody could supply specific numbers, that would be great. Sincerely, Marek Klysewicz ChiTech Software, Inc. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: UGL graphics on MV2700 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:51:12 -0600 From: "Jim Loundagin" Organization: NAWCWPNS Message-ID: <97ef33$7s1@news.nawcwpns.navy.mil> Need help on selecting a PMC graphics card for use with UGL 2.0. I would like to know if anybody has gotten UGL graphics to work from a PPC. - Jim Loundagin loundaginja@navair.navy.mil --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: UGL graphics on mv2700 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:53:17 -0600 From: "Jim Loundagin" Organization: NAWCWPNS Message-ID: <97ef39$7s2@news.nawcwpns.navy.mil> Has anybody had any success with ugl graphics on an PPC if so could you recommend a PMC graphics board. mv2700 vxWorks 5.4 ugl 2.0. Thanks Jim Loundagin --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:18:22 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <977446$rgs$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776v3$i0c$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <32ae9t4vdf1l1ipgn5k22onmvvk8d5uabm@4ax.com> <977b6n$n4g$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <0lfe9tcql2rvjdith255bektq42r5tnnjl@4ax.com> <977vu1$2td$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <979nl7$n62$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df5c$r8r$4@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:43:13 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>Yep, it came to me over a bottle of scotch. They are stupid cause >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >>they are sober. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > Are you sure it isn't the other way round ? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>> Do you mean they are sober because they are stupid? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:(>He could have a point. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I find. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you actually get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, you don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few hours after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get pissed while >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that every >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And clearly you have though of them all. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Not all of them, just most. I have got to leave myself something to do >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What you planning on doing after 20 years? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ops, I meant to say after the next 20 odd years. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, medically, my body will only be able to keep on drinking >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >for the next 20 odd years. So I'm going to have something to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >do after those 20 odd years are up... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You could just save up for a liver transplant. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Shit. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Do you realise how much time you just save me >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >with those 9 words? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> One of the benefits of age and experience. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Shit, well I owe you. The first shout is on me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Though you better print this off and bring it with you for proof as >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I will forget and deny most vigioursly that I said it. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Nah, I don't care bout teh shouts!! I will just say "liver" over and >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> over til you buy me a drink!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That could work, depending on how much I already had already >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >had to drink, not enough and you would get your drink. To much >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and I would YELL "FUCK OFF" over and over until you bought >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >me 3 rounds. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That would work, I am sensitive and I will buy drinks for someone >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> yelling "FUCK OFF" until they stop! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That is very interesting. Though I wouldn't take advantage, after a >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >bit of yelling my throat would get dry. And then I would have to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >concentrate on the drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I figure that is teh best way to end teh argument. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yep, just agree to shut the fuck up and let the drinking do the talking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >And no, I never played footy. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> What? Who said anything about teh footy? And ask Ward for me, what >> >> >> >> >> >> happened to Teh Bombers in teh first round of teh Ansett cup? Port >> >> >> >> >> >> whatever, I don't think so. Are they playing coy? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >No, I don't think they are, cause they just got beaten by Geelong. HAHAHA. >> >> >> >> >> >I think Ward has gone camping. But I will ask him when he gets back. >> >> >> >> >> >My quote 'let the drinking do the talking' was a rip off of a bad quote that fighters >> >> >> >> >> >and football players use when talking about football. I though you might have >> >> >> >> >> >recognised it. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Nah, missed that one, nevermind. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Quite funny too. >> >> >> > >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. >> >> > >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. >> >> > >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. >> > >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. >> > >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! > >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a >good wake up call for the bombers. > Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:18:56 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183k932qf3v@4ax.com> References: <9773td$rgs$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776s9$i0c$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <53ae9t4cpjp2hvecq02oo0katra3chdqou@4ax.com> <977b94$n4g$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <978003$2td$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <5t8g9tov0udchtfkl9sum9mi2g00hn4lr8@4ax.com> <979nm6$n62$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:44:07 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> >> >> >> >> clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> >> >> >> >> anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live >> >> >> >> >> >> >> with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> find. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> actually >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> >> >> >> >> hours >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> pissed >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> while >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >every >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> vodka >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> set >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >machines >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do >> >> >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >job >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> could see >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> >> >> >> >> off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ah shucks DaveK. I really apreciate that. I'm currently finished with >> >> >> >> >> >> >the C&N scotch and am now onto the JD. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> You mean you don't start with teh good stuff? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Nah, I work my way up to it. If I started with JD, then went to C&N when >> >> >> >> >> >I ran out of JD it would ruin the whole experience. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Almost as much as actually sobering up would ruin the experience? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Yeah, so last night, I started off C&N and then at the end of the >> >> >> >> >night I had a few quiet JD's and it was nice... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I can see your point, its just that I like the first two to taste >> >> >> >> nice, then when I am pissed I don't care anymore. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I usually subscrube to that theory, but sometimes even you would be >> >> >> >amazed at the difference. >> >> >> > >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> comparison! >> >> > >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> > >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> > >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> > >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >C&N scotch though. > That does make sense. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:19:54 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <52il9tggs3bi81m1bbi47uk2oo9src91bc@4ax.com> References: <97740c$rgs$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776po$i0c$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <35ae9top89tlu9ksp0bqo13tr8066m3fh6@4ax.com> <977bb1$n4g$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <978054$2td$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <979not$n62$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df8i$r8r$6@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:44:54 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> >> >> >> >clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> >> >> >> >anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to live >> >> >> >> >> >> >with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> >> >> >> >find. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> >> >> >> >actually >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >get >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup session, >> >> >> >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after you >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> >> >> >> >hours >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> while >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober up >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so that >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >every >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> >> >> >> >vodka >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >set >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of those >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >machines >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should do >> >> >> >> >> >> >the >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >job >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> >> >> >> >could see >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> >> >> >> >off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got >> >> >> >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this >> >> >> >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too >> >> >> >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the >> >> >> >> >> worst! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few >> >> >> >years he might start to learn. >> >> >> > >> >> >> That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew >> >> >> on the floor. >> >> > >> >> >I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as >> >> >a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to >> >> >get to either a sick, toilet or outside. >> >> >Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but >> >> >I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it >> >> >and quiet a bit more in the sink. >> >> > >> >> I think it is an alcohol tolerance thing, or just practice. >> > >> >I don't think so. I tend to think it is maturity. I know that Rob can drink a >> >little bit more than me on a big night, I just know when to stop. >> > >> Drinking through to alcohol poisoning is usually a mistake. > >Or a sign of stupidity! Wow, that means Rob. > He will learn, to stop when the room spins, and go to bed before he has to throw up to stay alive. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:21:26 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <9773qg$qf8$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <677e9tg3o9enm8va3fc8icgr9kbmk0bouf@4ax.com> <9776np$i0c$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <977bc4$n4g$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <97807o$2td$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <029g9tsekd4l7mnrir85qsm0p9ln9l2vu3@4ax.com> <979nrm$n62$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <50ug9tkirb824jmqfsvln0nm972m04bo7j@4ax.com> <97dfa4$r8r$7@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:45:48 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of vodka generally >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to set >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you can use an ultrasonic humidifier to produce ethyl alcohol >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >vapor...breathe that shit and you'll get fucked-up, real-good >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >best bet is to distill 100-proof vodka into pure grain alcohol >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >then, put it in a jug with an appropriate amount of anhydrous >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >magnesium sulfate, which removes the last traces of water >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >...it's the killer shit, lemme-tellya >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> SUBSCRIBE!!!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Um... The posibilities. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It is a worry, isn't it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, but it would be interesting to try... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sad, but true!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I now have a mission in life. Get with a nice nurse to >> >> >> >> >> >> >try that out... >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Everyone needs a hobby. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >No hobby, it's now the meaning for my existance. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> I went out with a nurse for a while, she was nice too... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Did she, like change your sheets, fluf your pillow and all that stuf? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> And gave the bestest head, don't know why I let her go, really. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >As The Mark Of Cain sing 'Hindsight is a great thing'. >> >> >> > >> >> >> She did have great arse too, did you know her? >> >> >> (Damn, I think I am turning into Moul!) >> >> > >> >> >Oh, please don't. And no, I didn't know here. Well I could have, >> >> >but as I don't know who your talking about if a bit hard to say yes >> >> >or no without any chance of error. >> >> > >> >> Good point. I have fairly high opinion of nurses as girlfriends, >> >> though. Possibly it's the uniforms. >> > >> >That's part of the attraction there. Though you can transfer that to women >> >in police or the defence forces as well. But we know their all dykes. >> > >> Whereas all nurses are straight, everyone knows that. > >Yep. But the only time I was in hospital all the ugly nurses were >looking after me. Only one good looking one in sight. > Its not like that in teh movies! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:22:13 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <974eqj$esl$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <27mb9t4f3qbv2lf5pumit9los46mm6bj3c@4ax.com> <97617h$3jd$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <94jd9t41hsq04q8oiueng236pn6onrq7i3@4ax.com> <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:52:19 - -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote in message ... >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:02:56 >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>alt.usenet.kooks : >> >>>Optional Identity wrote: >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then >smoke a bit, then >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes >me fall >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training >to be able to >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without >pukeing or >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in >and of itself :-D >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I >still find it >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A >couple of >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or >just >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if >you >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and >will >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >>>> >> > >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >>>> >> > >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... >>>> > >>>> >Well, while your there... >>>> > >>>> Double be ok? >>> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >>>better have both. Fuck. >>> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > > I'll help ya with that spare one! > > DaveK No problem Dave! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: problem booting target Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:36:37 +0900 From: "Jinwoo Kim" Organization: Korea Telecom Message-ID: <97f07l$83j$1@news1.kornet.net> References: <3A9691EE.6D9751D8@alumnos.uva.es> Try to check the RAM_HIGH_ADRS... generally, it happens when RAM_HIGH_ADRS on bootrom is different from one on download image. it should help you, jinwoo "Ismael Lavín Herrán" wrote in message news:3A9691EE.6D9751D8@alumnos.uva.es... > I have a problem booting my target (ix86), I've created a boot disk and > when I'm trying boot in the screen appear: muxLoad failed!. Could > anybody help me? > > Thanks in advance. > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Async Read Failure Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:39:19 GMT From: Craig Vanderborgh Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <3A9B0544.9ACFE6D7@voxware.com> References: <382977524a%molochai@vapour-trail.demon.co.uk> Um, sorry but I'm afraid that the best avaiable technical support for VxWorks is known as "comp.os.vxworks". We have never, ever received *any* constructive response from any one of our numerous TSR filings from Wind River. Apparently WRS have been on a hiring binge: high school dropouts. Do yourself a favor. Next time you need technical support, go and pound sand. It will be far more productive than filing "TSRs" with you-know-who. regards, craig vanderborgh voxware incorporated molochai wrote: > > In message > "G Kraemer" wrote: > > > vxWorks users: > > > > I'm experiencing problems with async I/O in vxWorks 5.4. I'm including my > > sample program source code. The executable is compiled with Green Hills > > Multi 1.8.9. I load and > [snip] > > > 2. Anyone else experiencing slow TSR handling by WRS tech support? > > Yes. 9 working days and counting. Its absolutely pathetic. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: BroadCast Size in Tornado2 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:12:02 +0900 From: "Derick Hong" Organization: Inet Internet Services Message-ID: <97f29s$a6t$1@news.nuri.net> When I was using tornado1, I couldn't send more than 1472(?)bytes at once using UDP. How about for Tornado2? Can I broadcast 5000bytes at once in UDP, or I should divide this frame into several packets less than 1472 bytes for broadcast as I did in Tornado1. I asked to windriver, the answer is like this. PROBLEM: IP_DO_LARGE_BCAST does not work. Instead of sending out the second packet, it looks like the code is confused and it tries to arp after the first packet is sent. FIX: Corrected fragmentation process when fragmenting mcast or bcast packets. The fix was to copy the flags of the original packet header to each fragment header. This maintained the flag settings for M_BCAST and M_MCAST allowing arpresolve () to function properly. By my knowledge, I couln't get the answer from this. Anybody can answer to my question or explain the abvoe answer. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: target shell, and i() Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:11:16 GMT From: Pierre Frigon Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <3A87628E.B719FACD@yahoo.com> References: <3a9a7664.11027390@192.168.1.214> This is beacause you have a variable i. Try calling i() (with parens). If this doesn't work do lkup "i" and you should find one entry in the text segment and the other(s) in the data or bss segment. Try calling the function using the address of the i routine. Kim Putnam wrote: > Okay. My original intent was to use a startup script to load some > runtime libs, then use usrAppInit() to load my program, and spawn a > task. > > Here is my question. This executes okay, but when I try to use i() at > the target I get : > > i= 0x3beaa80: value =0=0x0 > > If I execute i() form the shell from the tornado shell, > > I get a list of tasks with info. > > I tought maybe this was due to the startup script. So I removed it and > added the apporpriate code to usrAppInit(). > > I am stummped > > I am using tornado 2.0, vxworks 5.4, vmic 7715 with DOC. > > K --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Seeking detailed info on VxWorks. Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:12:47 GMT From: Pierre Frigon Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <3A8762E9.82FB795D@yahoo.com> References: <3A9ABDF1.6FDC8B02@chitech1.com> Your best bet is to ask one of the sales reps. They should have all this info for you. Marek Klysewicz wrote: > Hello Everybody, > > I am preparing groundwork for an integrated product and software > development platform. For the product itself, MPC750 and MPMC860 (Power > PC) hardware was selected. Selection of the operating system and > development environment will be based on performance. VxWorks is > being considered. Development platform most likely will be Windows NT. > > Here is a list of issues, which I have to resolve to establish > suitability of VxWorks for our project, not necessarily in order of > their significance: > * Performance, based on some arbitrary PowerPC target, namely: > * Context switching, > * Interrupt latency, > * Boot-up time, > * Timing granularity, > * System call overhead. > * Kernel footprint for minimum, maximum, and typical set of services. > * Support for MPC750 > * Support for MPMC860, and / or CPV3060. > * Cost of basic development tools. > * Cost of available add-ons. > * Licensing scheme. > * Support options with their respective cost. > * Availability and cost of third party tools and services. > * Customers training: available classes and their respective cost. > > Any help in addressing these issues will be appreciated. If somebody > could supply specific numbers, that would be great. > > Sincerely, > > Marek Klysewicz > ChiTech Software, Inc. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:00:23 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983268293.652038@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <96vgsv$h40$1@news.etri.re.kr> <3A938FB6.6080503@snellwilcox.com> <983209218.811031@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> Bill, your post is perfectly clear to me now and probably it's my fault to skip that informtion in your post... however it is clear to anyone else now as well, i guess :-) btw: i think the trigraph replacement is done as one of the first things, even before macro expansion the compiler proper does not even see them, so the warning is produced by the preprocessor (afaik...) regards werner Bill Pringlemeir wrote in message news:ud7c5cn46.fsf@yahoo.com... > > >> Bill Pringlemeir wrote: > >> Well, obviously they count. However, is it productive for GCC to > >> give a warning? I don't think so. > > >>>>> "Werner" == Werner Schiendl writes: > > Werner> If it soes not change the effect of a program (if compiled > Werner> with a system that does trigraph conversion) I would agree > Werner> with that. But for the rest of possible occurences I think > Werner> it makes sense. > > Werner> Just take my favorite example: printf("What??!"); > > Werner> I think it is better to have a warning and learn about the > Werner> problem than one day finding the program misbehaving because > Werner> it is compiled on an other system or compiler. > > I don't think that you read my entire message or my meaning was > unclear! The compiler shouldn't give a warning in code that is not > producing anything. Like comments and unused conditional. What you > did quote was quite out of context. > > Obviously, printf("What??!"); by itself would be a good place to warn. > However some constructs wouldn't be. Surely this one isn't needed, > > /* What??! */ > > And cases like this are somewhat questionable to warn of... > > #if 0 > printf("What??!") > #endif > > The compiler wouldn't warn of a missing semi-colon, but it would warn > of the trigraph. Obviously this warning is being done by the > preprocessor. It has information as to what a comment is and what > conditions are active. > > Is my meaning clear now? > > regards, > Bill Pringlemeir > > -- > Useful vxWorks URLS, > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: problem booting target Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:26:46 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983269883.782318@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3A9691EE.6D9751D8@alumnos.uva.es> Ismael, when does the message appear? did it already load the image (three numbers specifying code, data, and bss size would have appeared)? then your image may not contain the correct ethernet drivers (but probably still work appart from network) otherwise your ethernet controller may not be set up right for the bootrom check the values in config.h (in your bsp directory) for you card then recompile the bootrom (this is _not_ done by the project facility!!) if this does not help, you should provide some more details... hth werner Ismael Lavín Herrán wrote in message news:3A9691EE.6D9751D8@alumnos.uva.es... > I have a problem booting my target (ix86), I've created a boot disk and > when I'm trying boot in the screen appear: muxLoad failed!. Could > anybody help me? > > Thanks in advance. > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Date: 27 Feb 2001 10:27:48 GMT From: borkhuis@agere.com (Johan Borkhuis) Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: References: <96vgsv$h40$1@news.etri.re.kr> <3A938FB6.6080503@snellwilcox.com> <983209218.811031@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> Bill Pringlemeir wrote: >Obviously, printf("What??!"); by itself would be a good place to warn. >However some constructs wouldn't be. Surely this one isn't needed, > >/* What??! */ But what if you used the following line (so without the spaces): /*What??/*/ For GCC this would be correct, but according to an earlier post the sequence "??/" means "\" if interpreted as a trigraph. So this would be seen to a compiler that recognises trigraphs as: /* What\*/ and this is an illegal statement. So in my opinion GCC is correct to warn, because the code you are using is not very portable. Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: SSL with VxWorks Wind Web Server Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:52:49 +0100 From: "Torsten Varchmin" Organization: CompuServe Interactive Services Message-ID: <97g0v1$mk6$1@sshuraab-i-1.production.compuserve.com> We use Tornado 2.0 the Wind Web Server 1.0 How can i use SSL ? Where can i find the Patch (#23225)? It's not on the Wind Surf Server. - -- Best Regards - ------------------------------- Arigo AG Torsten Varchmin mailto:varchmin@arigo.de http://www.arigo.de Fon: +49 (0) 2521 8738-12 Fax: +49 (0) 2521 8738-20 - ------------------------------- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: how to develop custom TELNET and FTP? Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:00:47 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983271917.159538@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3A96F17E.7AA11FAF@chaparralnet.com> <3A97FB6F.665552F@nospamsympatico.ca> <97b935$bit$2@news1.xs4all.nl> Hi, As to my knowledge, there is nothing more behind a TELNET session than an ordinary TCP socket. So if you accept the connect yourself (you can even use the standard port, if you do not use the VxWorks one) and redirect the input and output of your CLI to that socket handle, you have what you want without struggling with foreign code... You can easily specify the number of supported simultaneous connects, so what else do you like? hth werner Johan Borkhuis wrote in message news:97b935$bit$2@news1.xs4all.nl... > muscou wrote: > : For telnet, you could buy the source code from WRS and add your custom > : processing in there. > > You don't have to buy the source code for a telnet server. There is an > unsupported version of the telnet server, that supports multiple telnet > sessions at the same time, for example 1 to the shell (that is still the > maximum, as the shell is not reentrant) and one to your own CLI. You can > get this version of the telnet server from your FAE. > > Groeten, > Johan > > -- > o o o o o o o . . . ______________________________ > o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | > .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@lucent.com | > >(________|__|_[_________]_|___________________________| > _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` > === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: how to develop custom TELNET and FTP? Date: 27 Feb 2001 11:16:22 GMT From: borkhuis@agere.com (Johan Borkhuis) Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: References: <3A96F17E.7AA11FAF@chaparralnet.com> <3A97FB6F.665552F@nospamsympatico.ca> <97b935$bit$2@news1.xs4all.nl> <983271917.159538@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> "Werner Schiendl" wrote: >Hi, > >As to my knowledge, there is nothing more behind a TELNET session than >an ordinary TCP socket. >So if you accept the connect yourself (you can even use the standard >port, if you do not use the VxWorks one) and redirect the input and >output of your CLI to that socket handle, you have what you want without >struggling with foreign code... If someone already developed it, why do it again? I received the code and it was very easy to build, and it looks very good, so for me it was very usefull, and saved me a lot of work. Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: change FTP timeout? Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:50:03 +0200 From: Amit Raam Organization: Verio Message-ID: <105n9tc6ge800anu7mv1ue5nicpjnef3v0@4ax.com> Hi, I need to change the timeout VxWorks 5.4 uses when I ld() a file over a tcp/ip connection. Does anyone know howto? Thanks, Amit Raam Email address: raama at indigo.co.il - -------------------------------------------------- ".sigless and proud of it" (R) (C) (tm) (look-and-feel) Std. disclaimer:I don't represent the opinions of anyone but myself. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VxWorks-zbuf Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:41:15 +0530 From: "Gokul Gopalasamy" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <97g5pm$h7e$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi all, I'm a beginner in VxWorks. Anyone pls. suggest some documents/links or send the struct zbuf contents? Thanks in advance. Gokul --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: target shell, and i() Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:35:13 GMT From: kimp@avtecinc.com (Kim Putnam) Organization: Info Avenue Internet Services Message-ID: <3a9b9ed9.1195828@192.168.1.214> References: <3a9a7664.11027390@192.168.1.214> <3A87628E.B719FACD@yahoo.com> Sometimes you just want do hide your head in the sand. Thanks for the help. Found it.... K On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:11:16 GMT, Pierre Frigon wrote: >This is beacause you have a variable i. Try calling i() (with parens). If >this doesn't work do lkup "i" and you should find one entry in the text >segment and the other(s) in the data or bss segment. Try calling the >function using the address of the i routine. > >Kim Putnam wrote: > >> Okay. My original intent was to use a startup script to load some >> runtime libs, then use usrAppInit() to load my program, and spawn a >> task. >> >> Here is my question. This executes okay, but when I try to use i() at >> the target I get : >> >> i= 0x3beaa80: value =0=0x0 >> >> If I execute i() form the shell from the tornado shell, >> >> I get a list of tasks with info. >> >> I tought maybe this was due to the startup script. So I removed it and >> added the apporpriate code to usrAppInit(). >> >> I am stummped >> >> I am using tornado 2.0, vxworks 5.4, vmic 7715 with DOC. >> >> K > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Debugging with MMU Enabled Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:08:17 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <973b0g$ng5gc$1@ID-56276.news.dfncis.de> Bill Pringlemeir wrote in message ... > Enable MMU > nop > nop > Jump to new code (this is in the pipeline)... > >Usually debuggers that single step do not emulate this behaviour. I >have seen this used in copy protection schemes to try and prevent >people from stepping through the code... This is some thing that a 16 >year old can understand ;-) Heh. I used code much like that for copy protection on an Amiga some years ago. Knowing that the cpu has a two word instruction pipeline, I had lea <$address>,a0 move.l a0,.label+2 .label: jmp <$otheraddress> Neither of the two addresses was the actual target of the jump; the cpu ends up jumping to a composite made from the high word of $otheraddress and the low word of $address. In fact, I tried to confuse things just a little bit further by making it calculate $address as a checksum of your code, replace the move.l with eor.l, and guard against anyone modifying the code as well as anyone trying to step through it. Of course, if you knew how it worked it was trivial to defeat, but then so is most copy protection... DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Handling Interrupt - Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:37:54 +0100 From: "Maxx Vernimmen" Organization: Internet Access Eindhoven, the Netherlands Message-ID: <97ge43$7ek$1@news.IAEhv.nl> References: <96rnsp$c9n$1@overload.lbl.gov> <982925651.566693@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> Werner Schiendl wrote in message news:982925651.566693@newsmaster-04.atnet.at... > > ...The problem is that the status registers must be read some time > > after the interrupt has occured. ... > > This is _exactly_ what an interrupt is originally intended for ;-) > Talking about interrupts, I've got a question I couldn't find an answer to in the manuals, faq, etc. It may be basic programming knowledge but one has to start learning somewhere, eh? If I were to define a signal handler in a task, would that mean that while this task is running it is constantly checking whether an interrupt has taken place (resulting in high overhead) ? If this were true it would be better to just check myself, that would be slightly faster maybe.. If I'm wrong does anyone please have a reference for me on how signal's are processed internally (eg. what happens at cpu level when a process has a signal handler, when it receives a signal, etc) thanks, Maxx --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: how to develop custom TELNET and FTP? Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:40:25 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983285094.630513@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3A96F17E.7AA11FAF@chaparralnet.com> <3A97FB6F.665552F@nospamsympatico.ca> <97b935$bit$2@news1.xs4all.nl> <983271917.159538@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> > If someone already developed it, why do it again? I received the code and > it was very easy to build, and it looks very good, so for me it was very > usefull, and saved me a lot of work. Then of course this is the better solution. Just thought it is not worth struggling with badly commented and/or written sources for that purpose :-) regards werner --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:07:46 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: Pacific Internet (Australia) Message-ID: <3a9bc296.268eb@newton.pacific.net.au> References: <974eqj$esl$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <27mb9t4f3qbv2lf5pumit9los46mm6bj3c@4ax.com> <97617h$3jd$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <94jd9t41hsq04q8oiueng236pn6onrq7i3@4ax.com> <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9780eg$6li$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <849g9ts8enim6u5gpk4rv68sev Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just > >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will > >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> > > >> >> >Well, while your there... > >> >> > > >> >> Double be ok? > >> > > >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >> >better have both. Fuck. > >> > > >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > > > >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. > > > It's better than being sober alone! Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for drinking with your friends. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:08:32 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: Pacific Internet (Australia) Message-ID: <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> References: <974eqj$esl$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <27mb9t4f3qbv2lf5pumit9los46mm6bj3c@4ax.com> <97617h$3jd$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <94jd9t41hsq04q8oiueng236pn6onrq7i3@4ax.com> <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then > >smoke a bit, then > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes > >me fall > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training > >to be able to > >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without > >pukeing or > >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in > >and of itself :-D > >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I > >still find it > >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A > >couple of > >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or > >just > >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if > >you > >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and > >will > >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... > >>>> > > >>>> >Well, while your there... > >>>> > > >>>> Double be ok? > >>> > >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >>>better have both. Fuck. > >>> > >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > > > > I'll help ya with that spare one! > > > > DaveK > > No problem Dave! You leave spare drinks lying around? > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:19:02 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: Pacific Internet (Australia) Message-ID: <3a9bc538.33eeb@newton.pacific.net.au> References: <977446$rgs$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776v3$i0c$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <32ae9t4vdf1l1ipgn5k22onmvvk8d5uabm@4ax.com> <977b6n$n4g$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <0lfe9tcql2rvjdith255bektq42r5tnnjl@4ax.com> <977vu1$2td$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <979nl7$n62$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df5c$r8r$4@intimidator.databasix.com> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards > >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Quite funny too. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get > >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. > >> >> > > >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. > >> >> > > >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. > >> > > >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. > >> > > >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on > >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! > > > >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had > >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a > >good wake up call for the bombers. > > > Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the > competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:20:31 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: Pacific Internet (Australia) Message-ID: <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> References: <9773td$rgs$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776s9$i0c$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <53ae9t4cpjp2hvecq02oo0katra3chdqou@4ax.com> <977b94$n4g$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <978003$2td$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <5t8g9tov0udchtfkl9sum9mi2g00hn4lr8@4ax.com> <979nm6$n62$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183 Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> > > >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> > > >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> > > >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> > > >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > > > >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >C&N scotch though. > > > That does make sense. It's all up to the individual I suppose > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:21:29 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: Pacific Internet (Australia) Message-ID: <3a9bc5ca.c97f4@newton.pacific.net.au> References: <97740c$rgs$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776po$i0c$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <35ae9top89tlu9ksp0bqo13tr8066m3fh6@4ax.com> <977bb1$n4g$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <978054$2td$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <979not$n62$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df8i$r8r$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <52il9tggs3bi81m1bbi47uk2oo Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got > >> >> >> >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this > >> >> >> >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too > >> >> >> >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the > >> >> >> >> >> worst! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few > >> >> >> >years he might start to learn. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew > >> >> >> on the floor. > >> >> > > >> >> >I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as > >> >> >a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to > >> >> >get to either a sick, toilet or outside. > >> >> >Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but > >> >> >I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it > >> >> >and quiet a bit more in the sink. > >> >> > > >> >> I think it is an alcohol tolerance thing, or just practice. > >> > > >> >I don't think so. I tend to think it is maturity. I know that Rob can drink a > >> >little bit more than me on a big night, I just know when to stop. > >> > > >> Drinking through to alcohol poisoning is usually a mistake. > > > >Or a sign of stupidity! Wow, that means Rob. > > > He will learn, to stop when the room spins, and go to bed before he > has to throw up to stay alive. Yes he will, but it will take quite awhile. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:24:24 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: Pacific Internet (Australia) Message-ID: <3a9bc67a.b4ff2@newton.pacific.net.au> References: <96qpcd$fr2$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <96uoe3$qr0$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >>clever. > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >>anywhere. > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to > live > >>with. > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >>find. > >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >>actually > >>>>> >get > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup > session, > >>you > >>>>> >>>> don't > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after > you > >>>>> >stop. > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >>hours > >>>>> >>>> after, > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >>pissed > >>>>> >>>> while > >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober > up > >>>>> >anyway. > >>>>> >>>> >> > > >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so > that > >>>>> >every > >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >>you > >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >>>>> >>>> >> > > >>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >>vodka > >>>>> >>>> generally > >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >>>>> >>>> >> > >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >>>>> >>>> > > >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >>set > >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >>you > >>>>> >don't > >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of > those > >>>>> >machines > >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should > do > >>the > >>>>> >job > >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell > asleep. > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> >>>> DaveK > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >>>>> >>talking about? > >>>>> > > >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >>could see > >>>>> >were the whites... > >>>>> > > >>>>> > DaveK > >>>>> > >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >>>> > >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >>>> > >>>Actually that does work... > >> > >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> > >> DaveK > > > >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > > Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general > direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's > nice clean alcohol. > > DaveK Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on the vodka. Yum, yum. - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what does mean the warning "trigraph(s) encountered" Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:25:58 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <96vgsv$h40$1@news.etri.re.kr> <3A938FB6.6080503@snellwilcox.com> <983209218.811031@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>> Bill Pringlemeir wrote: >> Obviously, printf("What??!"); by itself would be a good place to >> warn. However some constructs wouldn't be. Surely this one isn't >> needed, >> >> /* What??! */ Johan> But what if you used the following line (so without the Johan> spaces): Johan> /*What??/*/ [snip] Johan> So in my opinion GCC is correct to warn, because the code you Johan> are using is not very portable. Just when I thought I was right... That is a good point, which perhaps the GCC maintainers/developers thought of. cheers, Bill - -- Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Handling Interrupt - Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:32:02 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983288191.882156@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <96rnsp$c9n$1@overload.lbl.gov> <982925651.566693@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <97ge43$7ek$1@news.IAEhv.nl> Maxx, Interrupts at the hardware level are implemented within the CPU and chipset and interrupt the normal flow of operation. Therefore no polling of the device is required, but you get informed when it has data. This was the reason for the somewhat sarcastic post from my side. Signals are 'software interrupts' and does also _not_ involve polling. The signal is processed in a seperate thread of execution (which thread this is, is system dependent) maybe someone else can further clarify that good luck werner Maxx Vernimmen wrote in message news:97ge43$7ek$1@news.IAEhv.nl... > > Werner Schiendl wrote in message > news:982925651.566693@newsmaster-04.atnet.at... > > > ...The problem is that the status registers must be read some time > > > after the interrupt has occured. ... > > > > This is _exactly_ what an interrupt is originally intended for ;-) > > > > Talking about interrupts, I've got a question I couldn't find an answer to > in the manuals, faq, etc. > It may be basic programming knowledge but one has to start learning > somewhere, eh? > > If I were to define a signal handler in a task, would that mean that while > this task is running it is constantly checking whether an interrupt has > taken place (resulting in high overhead) ? > If this were true it would be better to just check myself, that would be > slightly faster maybe.. > > If I'm wrong does anyone please have a reference for me on how signal's are > processed internally (eg. what happens at cpu level when a process has a > signal handler, when it receives a signal, etc) > > thanks, > > > Maxx > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Debugging with MMU Enabled Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:44:13 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <973b0g$ng5gc$1@ID-56276.news.dfncis.de> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>> Bill Pringlemeir wrote in message ... >> I have seen this used in copy protection schemes to try and >> prevent people from stepping through the code... This is some >> thing that a 16 year old can understand ;-) >>>>> "DK" == Dave Korn writes: DK> Heh. I used code much like that for copy protection on an DK> Amiga some years ago. Knowing that the cpu has a two word DK> instruction pipeline, I had lea <$address>,a0 move.l a0,.label+2 .label: jmp <$otheraddress> DK> Neither of the two addresses was the actual target of the jump; DK> the cpu ends up jumping to a composite made from the high word of DK> $otheraddress and the low word of $address. In fact, I tried to DK> confuse things just a little bit further by making it calculate DK> $address as a checksum of your code, replace the move.l with DK> eor.l, and guard against anyone modifying the code as well as [snip] Hmmm, your code may have confused me at the time. This code was written by the `bit brothers' and was quite prolific on Atari ST games (circa 1986). The one that I figured out was some motorcycle game, which I actually bought a copy of... The part that makes this a give away is that the code at the un-pipelined addresses is usually bad. You can guess that something else must have happened. It would be smarter to change a register or something. So that later on, you could check on the branch. This scheme also used an eor of code. Section 1 was good, section 2 was an eor of good code and section 1...this prevents `static analysis'. So you had to be in a debugger. Also, the code kept checksumming itself so that it could try to detect break points, as well as the single step bit of the status register. I am sure that some where you inspired/challenged some person who is a pretty good programmer now... regards, Bill - -- Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: MIPS based BSP help Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:43:56 GMT From: "Jas" Organization: Sympatico Message-ID: Hi, Soon I will be working on a Broadcom BCM3350 (MIPS processor). What's the best reference BSP to use as a starting point? --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: burn boot image into boot flash Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:41:50 -0500 From: "Jason Jiang" Organization: Verio Message-ID: I built a compressed bootable project in Tornado and combined the boot program and vxWorks image together. I got two output files: "compress.hex" and "compress". 1) File "compress.hex": I used Vision Click to convert "compress.hex" into "compress.bin" (its size is 426,668 bytes), and burned into boot flash, then powered off and powered up the target (8260). It can bring up the target. I found compress.bin has a header with 288 bytes. Vision Click just burned the remaining 426,668-288=426,380 bytes into the boot flash. Then I used my code to "fopen()" the compress.bin, skipped the first 288 bytes using "fseek()", then wrote the remaining 426,380 bytes into the boot flash using flash driver, powered off and powered on. It could still bring up the target. But the tShell could not support any commands like "i", "help". Seems there is no symbol table there. Where can I get it? 2) File "compress" It is boot image in ELF format. It has segments like text, data, bss, sbss, sdata, etc. I want to burn this file into boot flash to bring up my target. But which segments I should use except text segment? Thanks for any reply. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: VxWorks-zbuf Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:45:17 -0500 From: "Jason Jiang" Organization: Verio Message-ID: References: <97g5pm$h7e$1@overload.lbl.gov> You can find them in Tornado Help -> Manual Contents -> VxWorks Network Programmer's Guide section 7.3. "Gokul Gopalasamy" wrote in message news:97g5pm$h7e$1@overload.lbl.gov... > Hi all, > > I'm a beginner in VxWorks. Anyone pls. suggest some documents/links or > send the struct zbuf contents? Thanks in advance. > > Gokul > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:03:05 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <9776v3$i0c$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <32ae9t4vdf1l1ipgn5k22onmvvk8d5uabm@4ax.com> <977b6n$n4g$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <0lfe9tcql2rvjdith255bektq42r5tnnjl@4ax.com> <977vu1$2td$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <979nl7$n62$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df5c$r8r$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc538.33eeb@newton.pacific.net.au> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:19:02 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. >> >> > >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. >> >> > >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! >> > >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a >> >good wake up call for the bombers. >> > >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. > >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. > If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:03:34 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <9776s9$i0c$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <53ae9t4cpjp2hvecq02oo0katra3chdqou@4ax.com> <977b94$n4g$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <978003$2td$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <5t8g9tov0udchtfkl9sum9mi2g00hn4lr8@4ax.com> <979nm6$n62$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183k932qf3v@4ax.com> <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:20:31 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> > >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> > >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> > >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> > >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >C&N scotch though. >> > >> That does make sense. > >It's all up to the individual I suppose > That is correct, everyone is different. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:04:19 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <9776po$i0c$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <35ae9top89tlu9ksp0bqo13tr8066m3fh6@4ax.com> <977bb1$n4g$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <978054$2td$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <979not$n62$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df8i$r8r$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <52il9tggs3bi81m1bbi47uk2oo9src91bc@4ax.com> <3a9bc5ca.c97f4@newton.pacific.net.au> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:21:29 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got >> >> >> >> >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this >> >> >> >> >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the >> >> >> >> >> >> worst! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few >> >> >> >> >years he might start to learn. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew >> >> >> >> on the floor. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as >> >> >> >a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to >> >> >> >get to either a sick, toilet or outside. >> >> >> >Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but >> >> >> >I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it >> >> >> >and quiet a bit more in the sink. >> >> >> > >> >> >> I think it is an alcohol tolerance thing, or just practice. >> >> > >> >> >I don't think so. I tend to think it is maturity. I know that Rob can drink a >> >> >little bit more than me on a big night, I just know when to stop. >> >> > >> >> Drinking through to alcohol poisoning is usually a mistake. >> > >> >Or a sign of stupidity! Wow, that means Rob. >> > >> He will learn, to stop when the room spins, and go to bed before he >> has to throw up to stay alive. > >Yes he will, but it will take quite awhile. > Eventually he will recall the hang-overs, while he is still drinking. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:05:22 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <3a9bc67a.b4ff2@newton.pacific.net.au> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:24:24 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Dave Korn wrote: > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >>clever. >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >>anywhere. >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to >> live >> >>with. >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >>find. >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >>actually >> >>>>> >get >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup >> session, >> >>you >> >>>>> >>>> don't >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after >> you >> >>>>> >stop. >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >>hours >> >>>>> >>>> after, >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >>pissed >> >>>>> >>>> while >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober >> up >> >>>>> >anyway. >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so >> that >> >>>>> >every >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >>you >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >>vodka >> >>>>> >>>> generally >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >>set >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >>>>> >>>> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >>you >> >>>>> >don't >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of >> those >> >>>>> >machines >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should >> do >> >>the >> >>>>> >job >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell >> asleep. >> >>>>> >>>> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >>>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >>>>> >>talking about? >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >>could see >> >>>>> >were the whites... >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > DaveK >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >>>> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >>>> >> >>>Actually that does work... >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> DaveK >> > >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's >> nice clean alcohol. >> >> DaveK > >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on >the vodka. Yum, yum. That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:05:56 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97617h$3jd$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <94jd9t41hsq04q8oiueng236pn6onrq7i3@4ax.com> <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9780eg$6li$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <849g9ts8enim6u5gpk4rv68sevk54kmsrp@4ax.com> <3a9bc296.268eb@newton.pacific.net.au> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:07:46 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> > >> >> >> Double be ok? >> >> > >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >better have both. Fuck. >> >> > >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> > >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. >> > >> It's better than being sober alone! > >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for >drinking with your friends. > I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:06:41 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97617h$3jd$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <94jd9t41hsq04q8oiueng236pn6onrq7i3@4ax.com> <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:08:32 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then >> >smoke a bit, then >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes >> >me fall >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training >> >to be able to >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without >> >pukeing or >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in >> >and of itself :-D >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I >> >still find it >> >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A >> >couple of >> >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or >> >just >> >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if >> >you >> >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and >> >will >> >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >>>> > >> >>>> >Well, while your there... >> >>>> > >> >>>> Double be ok? >> >>> >> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >>>better have both. Fuck. >> >>> >> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> > >> > I'll help ya with that spare one! >> > >> > DaveK >> >> No problem Dave! > >You leave spare drinks lying around? > No that was the one I got for you, that you couldn't have because you were driving. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VME interrupts Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:55:48 +0000 From: B Luong Organization: The University of York, UK Message-ID: <3A9C2264.770A2346@student.cs.york.ac.uk> Sender: btl101@york.ac.uk Hi I am trying to generate a VME interrupt and handle it on multiple Power Pc cards. Is there anyway to do this? I heard somewhere only one interrupt can be generated at a time. At the moment I have 3 cards. I generate an interrupt on 1 card and try to handle it on the other 2. One card services the interrupt but the other one logs a 'bad vme interrupt'. Is there a version of sysBusGenInt() that can generate multiple interrupts so that I can handle them on both my card? I am trying to synchronise the clocks on several Power Power Pc cards. I want to be able to generate a VME bus interrupt and use ISRs to reset the clocks on each board. Is there a better way to do this? thanks for any help regards Ben --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Disk Corruption Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:58:58 -0500 From: "Mike Kordik" Message-ID: I wrote a a simple module to open a file (O_CREAT | O_RDWR), write to it and then close it. This is done about 1/sec. Asynchronously a web server thread (GoAhead) is reading this file. I have tested this sequence twice and both time by DiskOnModule got corrupted. Corrupted enough that I have to re-partition and re-format. I am assuming it has to do with the fact that two threads are accessing this file. Both are opening and closing the file. Does this sequence explain why the disk got corrupted? I thought about using one module access the file through a mutex to keep the accesses synchronized but I would have to modify the web server. Is there a better way? Thansk, Mike --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Disk Corruption Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:36:14 -0500 From: "Mike Kordik" Message-ID: References: I think I found the problem although I have another question. I am using open with O_CREAT. The VxWorks docs say this only works with NFS devices. It seems to work with my non-NFS device. Are the docs wrong? Thanks, Mike "Mike Kordik" wrote in message news:XoVm6.107$5_1.682@client... > I wrote a a simple module to open a file (O_CREAT | O_RDWR), write to it and > then close it. This is done about 1/sec. Asynchronously a web server thread > (GoAhead) is reading this file. I have tested this sequence twice and both > time by DiskOnModule got corrupted. Corrupted enough that I have to > re-partition and re-format. I am assuming it has to do with the fact that > two threads are accessing this file. Both are opening and closing the file. > Does this sequence explain why the disk got corrupted? > > I thought about using one module access the file through a mutex to keep the > accesses synchronized but I would have to modify the web server. > > Is there a better way? > > Thansk, > Mike > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: VME interrupts Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:39:04 -0500 From: Joe Durusau Message-ID: <3A9C48A8.C3082338@bellsouth.net> References: <3A9C2264.770A2346@student.cs.york.ac.uk> You can't handle a single int on more than one acceptor. That is, you can gen an int anyway you want, (even more than one) but each int will be handled by one and only one CPU. One possibility is to trick up some way to generate two ints at the same time and assign say int line 5 to CPU 1 and int line 6 to CPU 2. This would get tricky, and probably would require some sort of tricky hardware. There are hardware timer devices with up to 1 uS resolution that you could install on the bus so that any CPU could read them. Of course, it would not be possible for two CPUs to read them at the same time. Good Luck. Speaking only for myself, Joe Durusau B Luong wrote: > > Hi > > I am trying to generate a VME interrupt and handle it on multiple Power > Pc cards. Is there anyway to do this? I heard somewhere only one > interrupt can be generated at a time. At the moment I have 3 cards. I > generate an interrupt on 1 card and try to handle it on the other 2. > One card services the interrupt but the other one logs a 'bad vme > interrupt'. Is there a version of sysBusGenInt() that can generate > multiple interrupts so that I can handle them on both my card? > > I am trying to synchronise the clocks on several Power Power Pc cards. > I want to be able to generate a VME bus interrupt and use ISRs to reset > the clocks on each board. Is there a better way to do this? > > thanks for any help > regards > > Ben --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Handling Interrupt - Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:43:36 -0500 From: Joe Durusau Message-ID: <3A9C49B8.39328F5C@bellsouth.net> References: <96rnsp$c9n$1@overload.lbl.gov> <982925651.566693@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <97ge43$7ek$1@news.IAEhv.nl> If you are asking about a hardware interrupt (signals are a software thing) then the usual way is to create an empty semaphore, then the handler attempts to take the sem. The handler blocks, and is unblocked when the ISR (Interrupt Service Routine) is called by the OS in response to the interrupt and gives the sem. See the basic OS part of the manual for more info. Speaking only for myself, Joe Durusau Maxx Vernimmen wrote: > > Werner Schiendl wrote in message > news:982925651.566693@newsmaster-04.atnet.at... > > > ...The problem is that the status registers must be read some time > > > after the interrupt has occured. ... > > > > This is _exactly_ what an interrupt is originally intended for ;-) > > > > Talking about interrupts, I've got a question I couldn't find an answer to > in the manuals, faq, etc. > It may be basic programming knowledge but one has to start learning > somewhere, eh? > > If I were to define a signal handler in a task, would that mean that while > this task is running it is constantly checking whether an interrupt has > taken place (resulting in high overhead) ? > If this were true it would be better to just check myself, that would be > slightly faster maybe.. > > If I'm wrong does anyone please have a reference for me on how signal's are > processed internally (eg. what happens at cpu level when a process has a > signal handler, when it receives a signal, etc) > > thanks, > > Maxx --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: tcl: buildStart + callbacks Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:54:14 -0800 From: "Denis" Message-ID: <97hlka$pgitg$1@ID-44494.news.dfncis.de> hello, proc buildStart { } registers certain callbacks, namely: setCallbacks -select lineSelected -prev previousTag -next nextTag does anyone know where i can get a complete list of callbacks that may be set? thanks denis ps. i did try to rtfm and could not find anything usefull --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: T2 man pages??? Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 01:55:51 GMT From: "bob houston" Organization: Road Runner - Texas Message-ID: References: <3A8AE8FE.D8334752@sis-dev.com> <982926857.174058@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <983208952.572320@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> "Werner Schiendl" wrote in message news:983208952.572320@newsmaster-04.atnet.at... > > why xterm? count the mouse clicks between a unix xterm cut/paste (2) and > an > > inteldows cut/paste. then u'll know. > > I never use the mouse but always use keyboard shortcuts while programming. > (Ctrl-C [Ctrl|Alt]-Tab Ctrl-V for that example) > But I would agree that the positioning of windows is often a pain (in almost > any IDE I know of). And you were moving the mouse between the shortcuts? and left clicking to get focus in a new window? my 2 unix xterm clicks were to copy something from one window to another. xterms can be configured to left click once for a 'word', twice for a 'sentence' and thrice for the whole line (for the cut) or of course leftclick/drag for multiple lines. Then move to the window of insertion (no click to focus) and 'middleclick' to paste the text. > > One thing I was glad when changing from an old fashioned DOS IDE to Windows > was the ability to have more than 25 lines at once on the screen. But this > is of course a question of taste. yep, i often run with 3 25x80 xterms and two 38x80 xterms. it's often good to have a couple of 'screens' with more text and several for reference. > > - werner > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Back plane communication and VxMP Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:02:49 -0800 From: "Sandhya Potluri" Organization: Monmouth Internet Message-ID: <97hssa$iiv$1@news.monmouth.com> References: <96t93p$5ve$1@overload.lbl.gov> <3A92D623.2DD3C94@aps.anl.gov> Folks, A related question. Can these two mechanisims co-exist? I need the backplane driver at boot time and the VX_MP features after the system comes up. Thanks Sunil Andrew Johnson wrote in message news:3A92D623.2DD3C94@aps.anl.gov... > "R R, Rajendra Prabhala (Rajendra)** CTR **" wrote: > > > > 1. I have gone through the manual and I understand that the > > back plane communication driver comes free > > with the vxworks image and there is no need to have the > > optional package VxMP running to enable this back plane communication > > along multiple processors. I suppose that this VxMP is required only to > > enable the usage of shared memory objects. Am I correct ? > > Correct. You get software that permits IP networking between the > different backplane CPUs with the basic vxWorks license. > > > 2. Are there any back plane type restrictions (VME / PCI/CPCI > > ) for this optional package VxMP ? Programmers manual is very specific > > about VME. > > I think the only requirement is that there must be some way to do a > Read-Modify-Write cycle on the bus or some similar means of guaranteeing > an uninteruptible read/write operation. On 68K family that means an > atomic RMW cycle from the TAS instruction, for PowerPC the lwarx/stwcx > instruction pair is used. I don't know what the equivalent mechanism is > on PCI, but I think there is one. The BSP provides the relevent routine. > > - Andrew > -- > Every great idea appears crazy to start with. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: The routing and interface table information Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:28:05 +0530 From: "Ajay Agrawal" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <97hu1m$7fq$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi, I am looking at developing a routing protocol module on Vxworks. The Vxworks stack is used with BSD complaint (non-MUX) network interfaces. The routing module would require all the existing routing and interface table information during it's initialization. Also any dynamic updates on the routing and interface table information should be made available to this routing module. What kind of interfaces/hooks does Vxworks provide to acheive this? Thanks and regards ajay --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: re: VxWorks-zbuf Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:47:21 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Davis Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <200102280447.UAA27696@well.com> > Submitted-by: "Gokul Gopalasamy" > > Hi all, > > I'm a beginner in VxWorks. Anyone pls. suggest some documents/links or > send the struct zbuf contents? Thanks in advance. The struct zbuf is not really documented; it's private to the zbuf API. You use the zbuf ID ( which is a pointer to the zbuf structure ) as an argument to the zbufXXX routines, and they manipulate it as required. Zbufs are basically collections of 'segments', each of which contains some data. You create them with zbufCreate, add to them with zbufInsert, and have a couple of options for getting the data out of them, using zbufExtractCopy to get a copy of the data and zbufGetData ( ? ) to get a pointer to the data contained in the zbuf. The zbuf section of the programmer's guide goes into all this in enough detail to get started. The advantages to using zbufs are that they allow you to do zero-copy buffer passing if used judiciously. The disadvantages are that you incur some insert/extract processing and storage overhead. It's a big win for large buffers, not so great for small ones. The other issue with zbufs is that they use a scarce system resource, the mblock. If you tie up too many of these, zbufCreate will fail until you free up some. The number of mblocks is configurable, but you need to consider your worst-case load before using zbufs. Regards; - -- Rick Davis --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:07:10 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97i46t$htj$7@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <9776v3$i0c$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <32ae9t4vdf1l1ipgn5k22onmvvk8d5uabm@4ax.com> <977b6n$n4g$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <0lfe9tcql2rvjdith255bektq42r5tnnjl@4ax.com> <977vu1$2td$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <979nl7$n62$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df5c$r8r$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc538.33eeb@newton.pacific.net.au> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:19:02 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards > >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get > >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. > >> >> > > >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. > >> >> > > >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on > >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! > >> > > >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had > >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a > >> >good wake up call for the bombers. > >> > > >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the > >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. > > > >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a > >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers > >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have > >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and > >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. > > > If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:07:53 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97i489$htj$8@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <9776po$i0c$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <35ae9top89tlu9ksp0bqo13tr8066m3fh6@4ax.com> <977bb1$n4g$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <978054$2td$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <979not$n62$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df8i$r8r$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <52il9tggs3bi81m1bbi47uk2oo9src91bc@4ax.com> <3a9bc5ca.c97f4@newton.pacific.net.au> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:21:29 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got > >> >> >> >> >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too > >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the > >> >> >> >> >> >> worst! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few > >> >> >> >> >years he might start to learn. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew > >> >> >> >> on the floor. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as > >> >> >> >a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to > >> >> >> >get to either a sick, toilet or outside. > >> >> >> >Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but > >> >> >> >I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it > >> >> >> >and quiet a bit more in the sink. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> I think it is an alcohol tolerance thing, or just practice. > >> >> > > >> >> >I don't think so. I tend to think it is maturity. I know that Rob can drink a > >> >> >little bit more than me on a big night, I just know when to stop. > >> >> > > >> >> Drinking through to alcohol poisoning is usually a mistake. > >> > > >> >Or a sign of stupidity! Wow, that means Rob. > >> > > >> He will learn, to stop when the room spins, and go to bed before he > >> has to throw up to stay alive. > > > >Yes he will, but it will take quite awhile. > > > Eventually he will recall the hang-overs, while he is still drinking. Yeah, that's bad. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:09:30 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97i4ba$htj$10@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97617h$3jd$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <94jd9t41hsq04q8oiueng236pn6onrq7i3@4ax.com> <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9780eg$6li$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <849g9ts8enim6u5gpk4rv68sevk54kmsrp@4ax.com> <3a9bc296.268eb@newton.pacific.net.au> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:07:46 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just > >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will > >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Double be ok? > >> >> > > >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >> >> >better have both. Fuck. > >> >> > > >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> > > >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. > >> > > >> It's better than being sober alone! > > > >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for > >drinking with your friends. > > > I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:08:37 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97i49l$htj$9@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <9719su$lp0$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <3a9bc67a.b4ff2@newton.pacific.net.au> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:24:24 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Dave Korn wrote: > > > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >>clever. > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >>anywhere. > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to > >> live > >> >>with. > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >>find. > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >>actually > >> >>>>> >get > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup > >> session, > >> >>you > >> >>>>> >>>> don't > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after > >> you > >> >>>>> >stop. > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >>hours > >> >>>>> >>>> after, > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >>pissed > >> >>>>> >>>> while > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober > >> up > >> >>>>> >anyway. > >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so > >> that > >> >>>>> >every > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >>you > >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >>vodka > >> >>>>> >>>> generally > >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >>>>> >>>> > > >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >>set > >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >>you > >> >>>>> >don't > >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of > >> those > >> >>>>> >machines > >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should > >> do > >> >>the > >> >>>>> >job > >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell > >> asleep. > >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK > >> >>>>> >>> > >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >>>>> >>> > >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >>>>> >> > >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >>>>> >>talking about? > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >>could see > >> >>>>> >were the whites... > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > DaveK > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >>>> > >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >>>> > >> >>>Actually that does work... > >> >> > >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> > >> >> DaveK > >> > > >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > >> > >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general > >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's > >> nice clean alcohol. > >> > >> DaveK > > > >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on > >the vodka. Yum, yum. > > That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to the gym with no ill affects. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:10:48 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97i4do$htj$11@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97617h$3jd$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <94jd9t41hsq04q8oiueng236pn6onrq7i3@4ax.com> <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:08:32 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then > >> >smoke a bit, then > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes > >> >me fall > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training > >> >to be able to > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without > >> >pukeing or > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in > >> >and of itself :-D > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I > >> >still find it > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A > >> >couple of > >> >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or > >> >just > >> >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if > >> >you > >> >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and > >> >will > >> >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> >Well, while your there... > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> Double be ok? > >> >>> > >> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >> >>>better have both. Fuck. > >> >>> > >> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> > > >> > I'll help ya with that spare one! > >> > > >> > DaveK > >> > >> No problem Dave! > > > >You leave spare drinks lying around? > > > No that was the one I got for you, that you couldn't have because you > were driving. Oh... Woo. Thanks for clearing that up. I was nearly about to drop all communications with you. It was nice of you to give it to DaveK, though personally I would have drank it myself if I was you. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:11:12 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <9776s9$i0c$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <53ae9t4cpjp2hvecq02oo0katra3chdqou@4ax.com> <977b94$n4g$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <978003$2td$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <5t8g9tov0udchtfkl9sum9mi2g00hn4lr8@4ax.com> <979nm6$n62$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183k932qf3v@4ax.com> <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:20:31 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> > > >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> > > >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> > > >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >C&N scotch though. > >> > > >> That does make sense. > > > >It's all up to the individual I suppose > > > That is correct, everyone is different. But everyone should be like me. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > I am a lamer! And a lunkhead! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:51:58 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <7fbp9tgfdrqse3o8r737jradhe54nmtbqn@4ax.com> References: <977b94$n4g$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <978003$2td$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <5t8g9tov0udchtfkl9sum9mi2g00hn4lr8@4ax.com> <979nm6$n62$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183k932qf3v@4ax.com> <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:11:12 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:20:31 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> > >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> > >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> > >> >> That does make sense. >> > >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> > >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >But everyone should be like me. > And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't like us, is a fuckhead! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:51:54 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <977b6n$n4g$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <0lfe9tcql2rvjdith255bektq42r5tnnjl@4ax.com> <977vu1$2td$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <979nl7$n62$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df5c$r8r$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc538.33eeb@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i46t$htj$7@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:07:10 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:19:02 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! >> >> > >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. >> >> > >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. >> > >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. >> > >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. > >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. > Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try anything to succeed, by now. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:52:58 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <977bb1$n4g$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <978054$2td$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <979not$n62$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df8i$r8r$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <52il9tggs3bi81m1bbi47uk2oo9src91bc@4ax.com> <3a9bc5ca.c97f4@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i489$htj$8@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:07:53 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:21:29 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> worst! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few >> >> >> >> >> >years he might start to learn. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew >> >> >> >> >> on the floor. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as >> >> >> >> >a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to >> >> >> >> >get to either a sick, toilet or outside. >> >> >> >> >Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but >> >> >> >> >I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it >> >> >> >> >and quiet a bit more in the sink. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I think it is an alcohol tolerance thing, or just practice. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I don't think so. I tend to think it is maturity. I know that Rob can drink a >> >> >> >little bit more than me on a big night, I just know when to stop. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Drinking through to alcohol poisoning is usually a mistake. >> >> > >> >> >Or a sign of stupidity! Wow, that means Rob. >> >> > >> >> He will learn, to stop when the room spins, and go to bed before he >> >> has to throw up to stay alive. >> > >> >Yes he will, but it will take quite awhile. >> > >> Eventually he will recall the hang-overs, while he is still drinking. > >Yeah, that's bad. > Maybe but it tends to slow the enthusiasm a bit, and one avoids the spew in the bed syndrome. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:55:08 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <3a9bc67a.b4ff2@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i49l$htj$9@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:08:37 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:24:24 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: >> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >>clever. >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >>anywhere. >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to >> >> live >> >> >>with. >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >>find. >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >>actually >> >> >>>>> >get >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup >> >> session, >> >> >>you >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after >> >> you >> >> >>>>> >stop. >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >>hours >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >>pissed >> >> >>>>> >>>> while >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober >> >> up >> >> >>>>> >anyway. >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so >> >> that >> >> >>>>> >every >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >>you >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >>vodka >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >>set >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >>you >> >> >>>>> >don't >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of >> >> those >> >> >>>>> >machines >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should >> >> do >> >> >>the >> >> >>>>> >job >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell >> >> asleep. >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >>could see >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> > DaveK >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> > >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's >> >> nice clean alcohol. >> >> >> >> DaveK >> > >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. > >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to >the gym with no ill affects. > A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:55:44 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <0nbp9tg0ep20cd2r29k1i3jskpnh4kfp8d@4ax.com> References: <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9780eg$6li$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <849g9ts8enim6u5gpk4rv68sevk54kmsrp@4ax.com> <3a9bc296.268eb@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4ba$htj$10@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:09:30 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:07:46 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Double be ok? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> > >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. >> >> > >> >> It's better than being sober alone! >> > >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for >> >drinking with your friends. >> > >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. > >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. > I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:57:07 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <3obp9t4llods18sb05qrueng9t0qgifh96@4ax.com> References: <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4do$htj$11@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:10:48 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:08:32 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then >> >> >smoke a bit, then >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes >> >> >me fall >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training >> >> >to be able to >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without >> >> >pukeing or >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in >> >> >and of itself :-D >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I >> >> >still find it >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A >> >> >couple of >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or >> >> >just >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if >> >> >you >> >> >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and >> >> >will >> >> >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> >Well, while your there... >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> Double be ok? >> >> >>> >> >> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >>>better have both. Fuck. >> >> >>> >> >> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> > >> >> > I'll help ya with that spare one! >> >> > >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> No problem Dave! >> > >> >You leave spare drinks lying around? >> > >> No that was the one I got for you, that you couldn't have because you >> were driving. > >Oh... Woo. Thanks for clearing that up. I was nearly about to drop all >communications with you. It was nice of you to give it to DaveK, though >personally I would have drank it myself if I was you. > So would I, but he promised the next shout, and we kept drinking, and I eventually woke up in a dumpster, but hey it was a great night! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:54:24 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <977b94$n4g$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <978003$2td$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <5t8g9tov0udchtfkl9sum9mi2g00hn4lr8@4ax.com> <979nm6$n62$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183k932qf3v@4ax.com> <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:11:12 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:20:31 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> > >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> > >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> > >> >> That does make sense. >> > >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> > >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >But everyone should be like me. > Like themselves, like you are? - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: re: VxWorks-zbuf Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:54:14 +0530 From: "Gokul Gopalasamy" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <97ifk6$lhl$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi Davis Thanks a lot. Can i contact you in case i need some more details? Warm Regards Gokul --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: T2 man pages??? Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:30:03 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983360602.462@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3A8AE8FE.D8334752@sis-dev.com> <982926857.174058@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <983208952.572320@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> bob houston wrote in message news:HUYm6.16220$D9.3688943@typhoon.austin.rr.com... > > "Werner Schiendl" wrote in message > news:983208952.572320@newsmaster-04.atnet.at... > > > why xterm? count the mouse clicks between a unix xterm cut/paste (2) > and > > an > > > inteldows cut/paste. then u'll know. > > > > I never use the mouse but always use keyboard shortcuts while programming. > > (Ctrl-C [Ctrl|Alt]-Tab Ctrl-V for that example) > > But I would agree that the positioning of windows is often a pain (in > almost > > any IDE I know of). > > And you were moving the mouse between the shortcuts? and left clicking > to get focus in a new window? Depends on what to select. Usually I use the arrow keys to do the selection. For some operations mouse usage is nice sometimes it's awkward. But you do not need to click the window or move the mouse to activate the window. The shortcut does all the job: bring the window to front, activate it,... > > my 2 unix xterm clicks were to copy something from one window to > another. xterms can be configured to left click once for a 'word', twice > for a 'sentence' and thrice for the whole line (for the cut) or of course > leftclick/drag for multiple lines. Then move to the window of insertion > (no click to focus) and 'middleclick' to paste the text. > > > > > > One thing I was glad when changing from an old fashioned DOS IDE to > Windows > > was the ability to have more than 25 lines at once on the screen. But this > > is of course a question of taste. > > yep, i often run with 3 25x80 xterms and two 38x80 xterms. it's often good > to > have a couple of 'screens' with more text and several for reference. > The actual saving mostly comes from leaving out that useless large controls of the browser windows otherwise displayed (for HTML pages). There is no obvious reason not to have 3 browser windows open for reference. At least with the browser I use you can than drag a link from one window to one of the others instead of clicking it. In general I like HTML formatted help because of the better highlighting and integration of graphic items. (of course this can be abused for marketing and similar evil stuff... there is always some shadows coming with the light ;-) ) - - werner --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Problem with the VxWorks image size Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:32:37 GMT From: daune@iba.be (Jean-François Daune) Organization: KPNQwest customer news service Message-ID: <3a9ce37a.13753536@news.belgium.eu.net> Hi all, I use VxWorks 5.4, Tornado II and a PEP VM172 board (MC68k). I have a problem with the boot when the VxWorks image size increases. At size X, it works well. If I add a component in the image, with a new increased image size of Y, the boot procedure hangs indefinitely. The terminal displays this: Attached TCP/IP interface to qu0. Attaching network interface lo0... done. Loading... 696188 + 102296 I have plenty of RAM (64 Mb). Much more than the image size (about 1Mb). Does anyone have a clue ?? Jean-François Daune --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Disk Corruption Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:35:20 GMT From: jagan Organization: Road Runner Message-ID: <3A9D287E.BF1162CB@mediaone.net> References: Mike, Can you tell us what the problem was. I am using a similar configuration and it may help me out. thanks, - -jagan. Mike Kordik wrote: > > I think I found the problem although I have another question. > > I am using open with O_CREAT. The VxWorks docs say this only works with NFS > devices. It seems to work with my non-NFS device. Are the docs wrong? > > Thanks, > Mike > > "Mike Kordik" wrote in message > news:XoVm6.107$5_1.682@client... > > I wrote a a simple module to open a file (O_CREAT | O_RDWR), write to it > and > > then close it. This is done about 1/sec. Asynchronously a web server > thread > > (GoAhead) is reading this file. I have tested this sequence twice and both > > time by DiskOnModule got corrupted. Corrupted enough that I have to > > re-partition and re-format. I am assuming it has to do with the fact that > > two threads are accessing this file. Both are opening and closing the > file. > > Does this sequence explain why the disk got corrupted? > > > > I thought about using one module access the file through a mutex to keep > the > > accesses synchronized but I would have to modify the web server. > > > > Is there a better way? > > > > Thansk, > > Mike > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: FTP with mkdir Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:02:27 +0100 From: "Thomas Sandscheiper" Organization: CompuServe Interactive Services Message-ID: <97j0dl$add$1@sshuraaa-i-1.production.compuserve.com> Hello List, i have some problems with the FTP server, the WindRiver ftp server (Tornado 2) can't create subdirs and an older Version (Tornado 1) has no security. Where can i get an other server ? tanks thomas --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: request Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:20:36 -0500 From: "Alexandre Gouraud" Organization: Nortel Message-ID: <97j1fl$6i0$1@bmerhc5e.ca.nortel.com> References: <97d4q8$305$1@news.IAEhv.nl> <97d6r1$9j4$1@news1.xs4all.nl> ipstatShow total 81 badsum 0 tooshort 0 toosmall 0 badhlen 0 badlen 0 infragments 0 fragdropped 0 fragtimeout 0 forward 0 cantforward 0 redirectsent 0 unknownprotocol 60 nobuffers 0 reassembled 0 outfragments 0 noroute 0 - -> udpstatShow UDP: 74 total packets 23 input packets 51 output packets 0 incomplete header 0 bad data length field 0 bad checksum 0 broadcasts received with no ports 0 full socket 23 pcb cache lookups failed 9 pcb hash lookups failed routing: 53 bad routing redirects 0 dynamically created route 0 new gateway due to redirects 0 destination found unreachable 0 use of a wild card route --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VxWorks and MIPS Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:31:18 GMT From: Xjasartist@yahoo.com (Jaz) Organization: Sympatico Message-ID: I am new to MIPS processors, I will be working with a broadcom 3350 MIPS processor. Windriver has no BSP for this chip, is there another BSP that would be a good starting point for doing BSP development with this chip? jazz --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Problem with the VxWorks image size Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:51:18 +0100 From: Sergio Guetta Organization: Ye 'Enter S.R.L. Message-ID: <3A9D1066.E9A0CF3D@txt.it> References: <3a9ce37a.13753536@news.belgium.eu.net> Maybe this is a problem with RAM_HIGH_ADRS definition. It may happen that the downloaded image overwrites the boot image (which is also copied in RAM) corrupting the boot process itself. In this case the solution is to increase RAM_HIGH_ADRS. Best Regards Sergio Guetta "Jean-François Daune" wrote: > > Hi all, > > I use VxWorks 5.4, Tornado II and a PEP VM172 board (MC68k). > > I have a problem with the boot when the VxWorks image size increases. > > At size X, it works well. If I add a component in the image, with a > new increased image size of Y, the boot procedure hangs indefinitely. > The terminal displays this: > > Attached TCP/IP interface to qu0. > Attaching network interface lo0... done. > Loading... 696188 + 102296 > > I have plenty of RAM (64 Mb). Much more than the image size (about > 1Mb). > > Does anyone have a clue ?? > > Jean-François Daune - -- Sergio Guetta TXT e-solutions S.p.A. Via Frigia 27 20126 Milano - ITALY Tel: +39.02.25771455 Fax: +39.02.2578994 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: FTP with mkdir Date: 28 Feb 2001 15:04:55 GMT From: borkhuis@agere.com (Johan Borkhuis) Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: References: <97j0dl$add$1@sshuraaa-i-1.production.compuserve.com> "Thomas Sandscheiper" wrote: >Hello List, > >i have some problems with the FTP server, the WindRiver ftp server >(Tornado 2) can't create subdirs and an older Version (Tornado 1) has no >security. Where can i get an other server ? There is an FTP server included with DosFS2 in source form. It is unsupported code, but it seems to work. Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Dynamic Config of IPv4 and etherInputHook Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:14:33 GMT From: "Christophe Belmont" Organization: Verio Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying to implement a Dynamic Configuration of IPv4 addresses routine for my VxWorks box. I successfully send ARP request with the command etherOutput(). However, I'm having some issues with etherInputHookAdd() used to receive replies or some other address requests. The call to etherInputHookAdd() is successfull but I don't know how to check that the handle is actually called when a packet is received. I'm using logMsg() but nothing happens. A ARP message processor is already hooked up; is it possible that this function receives the message and processes it before it is received by my function. When the program ends, I call etherInputHookDelete() but I get a "Page Fault". Some ideas? Thank you in advance, Christophe. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: RE: Vx Exploder Digest Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:09:11 -0500 From: Roger Cruz Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <97j4n6$bj1$1@overload.lbl.gov> Do you have the source code? Can you use Tornado to debug the problem? Or is the hang so bad that you can't even ping the board? Your description does not give enough information for me to be able to give you any valuable advice. The one thing I can say, having written drivers for the MCP750, is that if the driver developer did not take into account that instructions on the 750 can execute out of order, then "weird" problems will occur. EIEIO instructions need to be place at the right places. Also, I/O space should be marked as "guarded". We saw a problem where some bytes were missing from an FTP transfer. We started by suspecting the HD driver, then Enet driver and finally after we had looked and confirmed both drivers were OK, we found out it was a simple GUARDED mask missing in the BSP. Roger ********** From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Sat Feb 24 10:31:08 2001 From: "Deja User" Date: Sat Feb 24 10:31:10 PST 2001 Subject: VxWorks hang up in mcp750 Tornado vxworks Hi guys / gals, Host:WinNT Target:MCP750, BSP V1.2 Tornado - II We have inserted Lucent access board on Compact PCI chassis, where MCP750 board is used as CPU. When we execute lucent driver commands from target shell prompt, the system getting hang up. This problem is occuring randomly, not specifically during any single driver command. we have tried to increase target shell stack space from default 20K to 50K, defined all board register variables as volatile, given few microsecond delay before accessing each register variable, etc.. Still the problem persists. Can any one faced up with similar problem and can suggest the solution found.. Thanks in advance. Bye... EmbLov --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Problem with the VxWorks image size Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:17:26 GMT From: daune@iba.be (Jean-François Daune) Organization: KPNQwest customer news service Message-ID: <3a9d15db.26650921@news.belgium.eu.net> References: <3a9ce37a.13753536@news.belgium.eu.net> <3A9D1066.E9A0CF3D@txt.it> On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:51:18 +0100, Sergio Guetta wrote: >Maybe this is a problem with RAM_HIGH_ADRS definition. It may happen that the >downloaded image overwrites the boot image (which is also copied in RAM) >corrupting the boot process itself. In this case the solution is to increase >RAM_HIGH_ADRS. > >Best Regards > > Sergio Guetta > > >"Jean-François Daune" wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I use VxWorks 5.4, Tornado II and a PEP VM172 board (MC68k). >> >> I have a problem with the boot when the VxWorks image size increases. >> >> At size X, it works well. If I add a component in the image, with a >> new increased image size of Y, the boot procedure hangs indefinitely. >> The terminal displays this: >> >> Attached TCP/IP interface to qu0. >> Attaching network interface lo0... done. >> Loading... 696188 + 102296 >> >> I have plenty of RAM (64 Mb). Much more than the image size (about >> 1Mb). >> >> Does anyone have a clue ?? >> >> Jean-François Daune > >-- >Sergio Guetta >TXT e-solutions S.p.A. >Via Frigia 27 >20126 Milano - ITALY >Tel: +39.02.25771455 >Fax: +39.02.2578994 Does anyone have more information on RAM_HIGH_ADRS and RAM_LOW_ADRS ? The official documentation is particularly confusing about that. My LOCAL_MEM_SIZE is 64 Mb Our VxWorks image is about 2 Mb. We use the provided boot rom. What would be good RAM_HIGH_ADRS and RAM_LOW_ADRS values ? Thanks & Regards, Jean-François Daune --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Disk Corruption Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:42:43 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983375233.110506@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: I used O_CREAT in a couple of places, for ram drives and DOS partitions for instance. I think it really should read 'it is driver and/or filesystem dependent if that feature works...'. hth werner Mike Kordik wrote in message news:TXVm6.111$5_1.741@client... > I think I found the problem although I have another question. > > I am using open with O_CREAT. The VxWorks docs say this only works with NFS > devices. It seems to work with my non-NFS device. Are the docs wrong? > > Thanks, > Mike > > "Mike Kordik" wrote in message > news:XoVm6.107$5_1.682@client... > > I wrote a a simple module to open a file (O_CREAT | O_RDWR), write to it > and > > then close it. This is done about 1/sec. Asynchronously a web server > thread > > (GoAhead) is reading this file. I have tested this sequence twice and both > > time by DiskOnModule got corrupted. Corrupted enough that I have to > > re-partition and re-format. I am assuming it has to do with the fact that > > two threads are accessing this file. Both are opening and closing the > file. > > Does this sequence explain why the disk got corrupted? > > > > I thought about using one module access the file through a mutex to keep > the > > accesses synchronized but I would have to modify the web server. > > > > Is there a better way? > > > > Thansk, > > Mike > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VxWorks 5.4, dosFs and memory consumption Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:04:17 +0100 From: Sergio Guetta Organization: Ye 'Enter S.R.L. Message-ID: <3A9D2181.D2A19CA3@txt.it> Hi all, I've ported a VxWorks 5.3.1 application that uses dosFs, to Tornado2 (VxWorks5.4). It happens that the memory allocation increased by a factor of 1.5. It seems that some extra allocation is done in the "open" function and thus my suspicion is that the file system does it. I didn't upgraded to dosFs2 yet. Did anybody experience the same problem ? Thanks - -- Sergio Guetta TXT e-solutions S.p.A. Via Frigia 27 20126 Milano - ITALY Tel: +39.02.25771455 Fax: +39.02.2578994 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: RE: How do I get the MAC address using vxWorks API? Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:47:04 -0500 From: "Brown, Matthew" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <97j87l$cqd$1@overload.lbl.gov> VxWorks I couldn't find any kind of direct call in the vxWorks API to get it, so I used the arpcom struct. Use a memcpy and copy the MAC from the ac_enaddr into a 6 byte buffer. Something like this : char macAddr [6]; pIf = ifunit ("ln0"); struct arpcom *pArpcom; pArpcom = (struct arpcom*) pIf; memcpy (macaddr, (pArpcom->ac_ecaddr),6); ========================== Matt Brown Lockheed Martin - Software Baltimore, MD > ---------- > From: vxwexplo@lbl.gov[SMTP:vxwexplo@lbl.gov] > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 11:32 AM > To: vxworks_users@csg.lbl.gov > Subject: How do I get the MAC address using vxWorks API? > > Submitted-by vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Mon Feb 26 08:26:07 2001 > Submitted-by: "Anil Dadlani" > > > Hi, > > > > I need to read the MAC address of a Ethernet chip. How do I get this > using > > vxWorks APIs? > > We do have a lower level BSP API which stores this 6 byte address into > the > > driver control structure (etherEndDevice) > > I found: > > ifunit ("ln0") function which returns the ifnet structure. Which field > has > > the MAC address? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Anil > > > > > > > ********** > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: multicast Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:04:12 -0500 From: gtunali@hns.com Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <97j87m$cqe$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi I am working with Udp sockets in vxworks and I simply want to add a socket to a multicast group.. I included multicast in VxWorks image and I see MULTICAST in flags section After using "socket" and "bind" , I call: - ---------------------- ipMreq.imr_multiaddr.s_addr = inet_addr("224.10.10.15"); //multicast address that I want to add myself ipMreq.imr_interface.s_addr = inet_addr("139.85.xx.xxx"); //my machine's IP address ::setsockopt(myFileDescriptor, IPPROTO_IP, IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP, (char*)&ipMreq,sizeof(ipMreq)) - ---------------- It gives error 0x31( ADDRNOAVAIL??) , just at setsockopt. What should I do before I use IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP, is there some other steps? Should I do something to create 224.10.10.15 multicast address interface before I join it? Regards Gamze Tunali --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: FTP with mkdir Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:25:52 +0100 From: "Thomas Sandscheiper" Organization: CompuServe Interactive Services Message-ID: <97j8qi$jo3$1@sshuraaa-i-1.production.compuserve.com> References: <97j0dl$add$1@sshuraaa-i-1.production.compuserve.com> Thanks Johan, but i can not find the DosFS2 source. Where can i find it? thomas "Johan Borkhuis" wrote in message news:Xns9056A39B08257borkhuislucentcom@135.7.153.101... > "Thomas Sandscheiper" wrote: > > >Hello List, > > > >i have some problems with the FTP server, the WindRiver ftp server > >(Tornado 2) can't create subdirs and an older Version (Tornado 1) has no > >security. Where can i get an other server ? > > There is an FTP server included with DosFS2 in source form. It is > unsupported code, but it seems to work. > > Groeten, > Johan > > -- > o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ > o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | > .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | > >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| > _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` > === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: netTask run put of stackmemory Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:32:30 +0100 From: "Thomas Sandscheiper" Organization: CompuServe Interactive Services Message-ID: <97j96v$amh$1@sshuraac-i-1.production.compuserve.com> Hello List, i have a problem with PPP and my netTask. The netTask gets a Stack-overflow where i dial in via PPP. Is it possible to extend stackspace for this task? thanks thomas --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Async Read Failure Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:48:04 GMT From: "G Kraemer" Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <8Z9n6.1087$DY.164650@news1.rdc1.az.home.com> vxWorks users: I'm experiencing problems with async I/O in vxWorks 5.4. I'm including my sample program source code. The executable is compiled with Green Hills Multi 1.8.9. I load and spawn discfail which spawns task1 and task2. The value for aio_return for some reads is zero (aio_error is also zero). My data files are 7.5 megs (not included-classified data). Using the 'i' command in the target shell displays task1 or task2 usually has an errno of 4 (Interrupted System Call). MVME-2604 (200MHZ) Power PC with 32Megs ram. Tornado 1.01 and 2.0 (T2CP3) 2604 BSP. IOMEGA SCSI Insider 100 ZIP drive. vxWorks is running from flash. When I re-program the flash with vxWorks 5.3.1, this sample program does not fail. I have MAX_AIO_TASKS in usrConfig.h set to 10. Questions: 1. Any ideas on what is happening? How do I fix it? 2. Anyone else experiencing slow TSR handling by WRS tech support? Garry Kraemer L3Communications (Link Simulation & Training) - ------------------------------------------------------------------ #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include "dpp.h" #include "vx_hsdbg.c" #undef T2dbug /* Tornado II debugging for gkrae */ #ifdef T2dbug extern void marktime(char *); static char dbgbuf[4096]; #endif /* Tornado II debugging for gkrae */ /* use this to set up one signal and determine what is going on struct t_my_aiocb { struct aiocb cb; struct fpt *my_fpt; }; static struct t_my_aiocb aiocb_read[5]; */ static struct aiocb aiocb_read[20]; static struct sigaction read_action[20]; char TACBUF[192*10*4]; char MALBUF[192*20*4]; char SYNBUF[192*10*4]; char APPBUF[1344*4]; char WTHBUF[192*2*4]; int tacdone1 = 0; int maldone1 = 0; int syndone1 = 0; int appdone1 = 0; int wthdone1 = 0; int tacdone2 = 0; int maldone2= 0; int syndone2= 0; int appdone2 = 0; int wthdone2 = 0; int gkrae = 0; int gkrae1 = 0; int gkrae2 = 0; int fd1,fd2,fd3,fd4,fd5; int task1(void); int task2(void); void read_SigHandler(int sig, struct siginfo * info, void * pContext); void discfail() { void (*old_sig)(); /* open 5 files */ if ((fd1 = open("/zip0/AIO/TAC.CHR",O_RDWR,0666)) == -1) { logMsg("discfail: can't open tac.chr file\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); }else { sprintf (dbgbuf, "discio: Opening TAC.CHR "); marktime (dbgbuf); } if ((fd2 = open("/zip0/AIO/MAL.CHR",O_RDWR,0666)) == -1) { logMsg("discfail: can't open mal.chr file\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); }else { sprintf (dbgbuf, "discio: Opening MAL.CHR "); marktime (dbgbuf); } if ((fd3 = open("/zip0/AIO/SYN.CHR",O_RDWR,0666)) == -1) { logMsg("discfail: can't open syn.chr file\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); }else { sprintf (dbgbuf, "discio: Opening SYN.CHR "); marktime (dbgbuf); } if ((fd4 = open("/zip0/AIO/APP.DAT",O_RDWR,0666)) == -1) { logMsg("discfail: can't open app.dat file\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); }else { sprintf (dbgbuf, "discio: Opening APP.DAT "); marktime (dbgbuf); } if ((fd5 = open("/zip0/AIO/WTH.CHR",O_RDWR,0666)) == -1) { logMsg("discfail: can't open wth.chr file\n", 0,0,0,0,0,0); }else { sprintf (dbgbuf, "discio: Opening WTH.CHR "); marktime (dbgbuf); } sp((FUNCPTR)task1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0); sp((FUNCPTR)task2,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0); while(!gkrae) taskDelay(60); close(fd1); close(fd2); close(fd3); close(fd4); close(fd5); aioShow(3); sprintf (dbgbuf, "closing all files "); marktime (dbgbuf); aioShow(3); } int task1(void) { int count = 0; for (;;) { int status; /* set up aiocbs */ sprintf (dbgbuf, "entered FOR loop "); marktime (dbgbuf); tacdone1 = 0x00; /* old_sig = signal(SIGUSR1,(void(*))read_SigHandler); not needed????? */ aiocb_read[0].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[0].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[0].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[0]; read_action[0].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[0].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[0].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[0],NULL); aiocb_read[0].aio_fildes = fd1; aiocb_read[0].aio_buf = &TACBUF[0]; aiocb_read[0].aio_nbytes = 192 *10 *4; aiocb_read[0].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[0].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[0])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read tac.chr\n", 0,0,0,0,0,0); maldone1 = 0x00; aiocb_read[1].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[1].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[1].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[1]; read_action[1].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[1].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[1].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[1],NULL); aiocb_read[1].aio_fildes = fd2; aiocb_read[1].aio_buf = &MALBUF[0]; aiocb_read[1].aio_nbytes = 192 *20 *4; aiocb_read[1].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[1].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[1])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read mal.chr\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); syndone1 = 0x00; aiocb_read[2].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[2].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[2].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[2]; read_action[2].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[2].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[2].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[2],NULL); aiocb_read[2].aio_fildes = fd3; aiocb_read[2].aio_buf = &SYNBUF[0]; aiocb_read[2].aio_nbytes = 192 *10 *4; aiocb_read[2].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[2].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[2])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read syn.chr\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); appdone1 = 0x00; aiocb_read[3].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[3].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[3].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[3]; read_action[3].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[3].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[3].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[3],NULL); aiocb_read[3].aio_fildes = fd4; aiocb_read[3].aio_buf = &APPBUF[0]; aiocb_read[3].aio_nbytes = 1344*4; aiocb_read[3].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[3].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[3])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read app.dat\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); wthdone1 = 0x00; aiocb_read[4].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[4].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[4].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[4]; read_action[4].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[4].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[4].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[4],NULL); aiocb_read[4].aio_fildes = fd5; aiocb_read[4].aio_buf = &WTHBUF[0]; aiocb_read[4].aio_nbytes = 192*2*4; aiocb_read[4].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[4].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[4])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read wth.chr\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); /* forever until all I/Os are done */ while (!(tacdone1 && maldone1 && syndone1 && appdone1 && wthdone1)) { if((count==0) & (gkrae==0)) { count = 0; } count++; if(count>60) count = 0; taskDelay(1); } if(gkrae || gkrae1) break; } } int task2(void) { int count = 0; for (;;) { int status; /* set up aiocbs */ sprintf (dbgbuf, "entered FOR loop "); marktime (dbgbuf); tacdone2 = 0x00; /* old_sig = signal(SIGUSR1,(void(*))read_SigHandler); not needed????? */ aiocb_read[5].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[5].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[5].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[5]; read_action[5].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[5].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[5].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[5],NULL); aiocb_read[5].aio_fildes = fd1; aiocb_read[5].aio_buf = &TACBUF[0]; aiocb_read[5].aio_nbytes = 192 *10 *4; aiocb_read[5].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[5].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[5])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read tac.chr\n", 0,0,0,0,0,0); maldone2 = 0x00; aiocb_read[6].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[6].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[6].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[6]; read_action[6].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[6].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[6].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[6],NULL); aiocb_read[6].aio_fildes = fd2; aiocb_read[6].aio_buf = &MALBUF[0]; aiocb_read[6].aio_nbytes = 192 *20 *4; aiocb_read[6].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[6].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[6])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read mal.chr\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); syndone2 = 0x00; aiocb_read[7].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[7].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[7].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[7]; read_action[7].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[7].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[7].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[7],NULL); aiocb_read[7].aio_fildes = fd3; aiocb_read[7].aio_buf = &SYNBUF[0]; aiocb_read[7].aio_nbytes = 192 *10 *4; aiocb_read[7].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[7].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[7])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read syn.chr\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); appdone2 = 0x00; aiocb_read[8].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[8].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[8].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[8]; read_action[8].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[8].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[8].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[8],NULL); aiocb_read[8].aio_fildes = fd4; aiocb_read[8].aio_buf = &APPBUF[0]; aiocb_read[8].aio_nbytes = 1344*4; aiocb_read[8].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[8].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[8])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read app.dat\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); wthdone2 = 0x00; aiocb_read[9].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[9].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[9].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[9]; read_action[9].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[9].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[9].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[9],NULL); aiocb_read[9].aio_fildes = fd5; aiocb_read[9].aio_buf = &WTHBUF[0]; aiocb_read[9].aio_nbytes = 192*2*4; aiocb_read[9].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[9].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[9])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read wth.chr\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); /* forever until all I/Os are done */ while (!(tacdone2 && maldone2 && syndone2 && appdone2 && wthdone2)) { if((count==0) & (gkrae==0)) { count = 0; } count++; if(count>60) count = 0; taskDelay(1); } if(gkrae || gkrae2) break; } } void read_SigHandler(int sig, struct siginfo * info, void * pContext) { int ix; int jx = 0; /* find the iocb */ sprintf (dbgbuf, "Entered read_SigHandler "); marktime (dbgbuf); for (ix=0;ix<10;ix++) { sprintf (dbgbuf, "info(0x%x)->si_value.sival_ptr = 0x%x &aiocb_read[%d] = 0x%x ", (int)info,info->si_value.sival_ptr,ix, &aiocb_read[ix]); marktime (dbgbuf); if ((struct aiocb *)info->si_value.sival_ptr == &aiocb_read[ix]) break; } if (ix == 10) { /* abort aiocb not found ... error here !! */ logMsg ("\ndiscfail: Signal raised. aiocb_read not found .... abort...",0,0,0,0,0,0); abort(); } /* ensure I/O is finished */ if (aio_error(&aiocb_read[ix]) == EINPROGRESS) /* ERROR HERE signal raised I/O still not done.. call windriver */ { logMsg("\ndiscfail: Signal received, I/O still in progres... abort",0,0,0,0,0,0); abort(); } /* Write is finished so let's do clean up for it here */ if ((jx=aio_return(&aiocb_read[ix])) != aiocb_read[ix].aio_nbytes) { logMsg("discfail: disc_read_SigHandler: aio_return for aiocb_read failed\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); sprintf (dbgbuf, "discio: jx=%d, requested read = %d bytes ", jx, aiocb_read[ix].aio_nbytes); marktime (dbgbuf); abort(); } else { sprintf (dbgbuf, "discio: ix=%d, read %d bytes ", ix, aiocb_read[ix].aio_nbytes); marktime (dbgbuf); switch (ix) { case 0: tacdone1 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "tacdone1 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; case 1: maldone1 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "maldone1 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; case 2: syndone1 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "syndone1 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; case 3: appdone1 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "appdone1 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; case 4: wthdone1 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "wthdone1 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; case 5: tacdone2 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "tacdone2 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; case 6: maldone2 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "maldone2 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; case 7: syndone2 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "syndone2 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; case 8: appdone2 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "appdone2 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; case 9: wthdone2 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "wthdone2 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; } } } --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: async read failure posting Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:50:33 GMT From: "G Kraemer" Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: vxWorks users, Anyone know why my previous two posts don't show up in the newsgroup? I've never had problems posting before. Thanks Garry --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Async Read Failure Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:01:09 GMT From: "G Kraemer" Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: vxWorks users: I'm experiencing problems with async I/O in vxWorks 5.4. I'm including my sample program source code. The executable is compiled with Green Hills Multi 1.8.9. I load and spawn discfail which spawns task1 and task2. The value for aio_return for some reads is zero (aio_error is also zero). My data files are 7.5 megs (not included-classified data). Using the 'i' command in the target shell displays task1 or task2 usually has an errno of 4 (Interrupted System Call). MVME-2604 (200MHZ) Power PC with 32Megs ram. Tornado 1.01 and 2.0 (T2CP3) 2604 BSP. IOMEGA SCSI Insider 100 ZIP drive. vxWorks is running from flash. When I re-program the flash with vxWorks 5.3.1, this sample program does not fail. I have MAX_AIO_TASKS in usrConfig.h set to 10. Questions: 1. Any ideas on what is happening? How do I fix it? 2. Anyone else experiencing slow TSR handling by WRS tech support? Garry Kraemer L3Communications (Link Simulation & Training) - ------------------------------------------------------------------ #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include "dpp.h" #include "vx_hsdbg.c" #undef T2dbug /* Tornado II debugging for gkrae */ #ifdef T2dbug extern void marktime(char *); static char dbgbuf[4096]; #endif /* Tornado II debugging for gkrae */ /* use this to set up one signal and determine what is going on struct t_my_aiocb { struct aiocb cb; struct fpt *my_fpt; }; static struct t_my_aiocb aiocb_read[5]; */ static struct aiocb aiocb_read[20]; static struct sigaction read_action[20]; char TACBUF[192*10*4]; char MALBUF[192*20*4]; char SYNBUF[192*10*4]; char APPBUF[1344*4]; char WTHBUF[192*2*4]; int tacdone1 = 0; int maldone1 = 0; int syndone1 = 0; int appdone1 = 0; int wthdone1 = 0; int tacdone2 = 0; int maldone2= 0; int syndone2= 0; int appdone2 = 0; int wthdone2 = 0; int gkrae = 0; int gkrae1 = 0; int gkrae2 = 0; int fd1,fd2,fd3,fd4,fd5; int task1(void); int task2(void); void read_SigHandler(int sig, struct siginfo * info, void * pContext); void discfail() { void (*old_sig)(); /* open 5 files */ if ((fd1 = open("/zip0/AIO/TAC.CHR",O_RDWR,0666)) == -1) { logMsg("discfail: can't open tac.chr file\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); }else { sprintf (dbgbuf, "discio: Opening TAC.CHR "); marktime (dbgbuf); } if ((fd2 = open("/zip0/AIO/MAL.CHR",O_RDWR,0666)) == -1) { logMsg("discfail: can't open mal.chr file\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); }else { sprintf (dbgbuf, "discio: Opening MAL.CHR "); marktime (dbgbuf); } if ((fd3 = open("/zip0/AIO/SYN.CHR",O_RDWR,0666)) == -1) { logMsg("discfail: can't open syn.chr file\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); }else { sprintf (dbgbuf, "discio: Opening SYN.CHR "); marktime (dbgbuf); } if ((fd4 = open("/zip0/AIO/APP.DAT",O_RDWR,0666)) == -1) { logMsg("discfail: can't open app.dat file\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); }else { sprintf (dbgbuf, "discio: Opening APP.DAT "); marktime (dbgbuf); } if ((fd5 = open("/zip0/AIO/WTH.CHR",O_RDWR,0666)) == -1) { logMsg("discfail: can't open wth.chr file\n", 0,0,0,0,0,0); }else { sprintf (dbgbuf, "discio: Opening WTH.CHR "); marktime (dbgbuf); } sp((FUNCPTR)task1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0); sp((FUNCPTR)task2,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0); while(!gkrae) taskDelay(60); close(fd1); close(fd2); close(fd3); close(fd4); close(fd5); aioShow(3); sprintf (dbgbuf, "closing all files "); marktime (dbgbuf); aioShow(3); } int task1(void) { int count = 0; for (;;) { int status; /* set up aiocbs */ sprintf (dbgbuf, "entered FOR loop "); marktime (dbgbuf); tacdone1 = 0x00; /* old_sig = signal(SIGUSR1,(void(*))read_SigHandler); not needed????? */ aiocb_read[0].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[0].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[0].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[0]; read_action[0].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[0].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[0].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[0],NULL); aiocb_read[0].aio_fildes = fd1; aiocb_read[0].aio_buf = &TACBUF[0]; aiocb_read[0].aio_nbytes = 192 *10 *4; aiocb_read[0].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[0].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[0])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read tac.chr\n", 0,0,0,0,0,0); maldone1 = 0x00; aiocb_read[1].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[1].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[1].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[1]; read_action[1].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[1].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[1].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[1],NULL); aiocb_read[1].aio_fildes = fd2; aiocb_read[1].aio_buf = &MALBUF[0]; aiocb_read[1].aio_nbytes = 192 *20 *4; aiocb_read[1].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[1].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[1])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read mal.chr\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); syndone1 = 0x00; aiocb_read[2].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[2].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[2].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[2]; read_action[2].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[2].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[2].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[2],NULL); aiocb_read[2].aio_fildes = fd3; aiocb_read[2].aio_buf = &SYNBUF[0]; aiocb_read[2].aio_nbytes = 192 *10 *4; aiocb_read[2].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[2].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[2])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read syn.chr\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); appdone1 = 0x00; aiocb_read[3].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[3].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[3].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[3]; read_action[3].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[3].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[3].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[3],NULL); aiocb_read[3].aio_fildes = fd4; aiocb_read[3].aio_buf = &APPBUF[0]; aiocb_read[3].aio_nbytes = 1344*4; aiocb_read[3].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[3].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[3])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read app.dat\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); wthdone1 = 0x00; aiocb_read[4].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[4].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[4].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[4]; read_action[4].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[4].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[4].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[4],NULL); aiocb_read[4].aio_fildes = fd5; aiocb_read[4].aio_buf = &WTHBUF[0]; aiocb_read[4].aio_nbytes = 192*2*4; aiocb_read[4].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[4].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[4])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read wth.chr\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); /* forever until all I/Os are done */ while (!(tacdone1 && maldone1 && syndone1 && appdone1 && wthdone1)) { if((count==0) & (gkrae==0)) { count = 0; } count++; if(count>60) count = 0; taskDelay(1); } if(gkrae || gkrae1) break; } } int task2(void) { int count = 0; for (;;) { int status; /* set up aiocbs */ sprintf (dbgbuf, "entered FOR loop "); marktime (dbgbuf); tacdone2 = 0x00; /* old_sig = signal(SIGUSR1,(void(*))read_SigHandler); not needed????? */ aiocb_read[5].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[5].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[5].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[5]; read_action[5].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[5].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[5].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[5],NULL); aiocb_read[5].aio_fildes = fd1; aiocb_read[5].aio_buf = &TACBUF[0]; aiocb_read[5].aio_nbytes = 192 *10 *4; aiocb_read[5].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[5].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[5])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read tac.chr\n", 0,0,0,0,0,0); maldone2 = 0x00; aiocb_read[6].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[6].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[6].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[6]; read_action[6].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[6].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[6].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[6],NULL); aiocb_read[6].aio_fildes = fd2; aiocb_read[6].aio_buf = &MALBUF[0]; aiocb_read[6].aio_nbytes = 192 *20 *4; aiocb_read[6].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[6].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[6])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read mal.chr\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); syndone2 = 0x00; aiocb_read[7].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[7].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[7].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[7]; read_action[7].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[7].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[7].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[7],NULL); aiocb_read[7].aio_fildes = fd3; aiocb_read[7].aio_buf = &SYNBUF[0]; aiocb_read[7].aio_nbytes = 192 *10 *4; aiocb_read[7].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[7].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[7])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read syn.chr\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); appdone2 = 0x00; aiocb_read[8].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[8].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[8].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[8]; read_action[8].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[8].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[8].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[8],NULL); aiocb_read[8].aio_fildes = fd4; aiocb_read[8].aio_buf = &APPBUF[0]; aiocb_read[8].aio_nbytes = 1344*4; aiocb_read[8].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[8].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[8])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read app.dat\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); wthdone2 = 0x00; aiocb_read[9].aio_sigevent.sigev_signo = SIGUSR1; aiocb_read[9].aio_sigevent.sigev_notify = SIGEV_SIGNAL; aiocb_read[9].aio_sigevent.sigev_value.sival_ptr = (void *)&aiocb_read[9]; read_action[9].sa_sigaction = read_SigHandler; read_action[9].sa_flags = SA_SIGINFO; sigemptyset(&read_action[9].sa_mask); sigaction(SIGUSR1,&read_action[9],NULL); aiocb_read[9].aio_fildes = fd5; aiocb_read[9].aio_buf = &WTHBUF[0]; aiocb_read[9].aio_nbytes = 192*2*4; aiocb_read[9].aio_reqprio = 0; aiocb_read[9].aio_offset = 768; if ((status = aio_read(&aiocb_read[9])) == -1) logMsg("discfail: can't read wth.chr\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); /* forever until all I/Os are done */ while (!(tacdone2 && maldone2 && syndone2 && appdone2 && wthdone2)) { if((count==0) & (gkrae==0)) { count = 0; } count++; if(count>60) count = 0; taskDelay(1); } if(gkrae || gkrae2) break; } } void read_SigHandler(int sig, struct siginfo * info, void * pContext) { int ix; int jx = 0; /* find the iocb */ sprintf (dbgbuf, "Entered read_SigHandler "); marktime (dbgbuf); for (ix=0;ix<10;ix++) { sprintf (dbgbuf, "info(0x%x)->si_value.sival_ptr = 0x%x &aiocb_read[%d] = 0x%x ", (int)info,info->si_value.sival_ptr,ix, &aiocb_read[ix]); marktime (dbgbuf); if ((struct aiocb *)info->si_value.sival_ptr == &aiocb_read[ix]) break; } if (ix == 10) { /* abort aiocb not found ... error here !! */ logMsg ("\ndiscfail: Signal raised. aiocb_read not found .... abort...",0,0,0,0,0,0); abort(); } /* ensure I/O is finished */ if (aio_error(&aiocb_read[ix]) == EINPROGRESS) /* ERROR HERE signal raised I/O still not done.. call windriver */ { logMsg("\ndiscfail: Signal received, I/O still in progres... abort",0,0,0,0,0,0); abort(); } /* Write is finished so let's do clean up for it here */ if ((jx=aio_return(&aiocb_read[ix])) != aiocb_read[ix].aio_nbytes) { logMsg("discfail: disc_read_SigHandler: aio_return for aiocb_read failed\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); sprintf (dbgbuf, "discio: jx=%d, requested read = %d bytes ", jx, aiocb_read[ix].aio_nbytes); marktime (dbgbuf); abort(); } else { sprintf (dbgbuf, "discio: ix=%d, read %d bytes ", ix, aiocb_read[ix].aio_nbytes); marktime (dbgbuf); switch (ix) { case 0: tacdone1 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "tacdone1 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; case 1: maldone1 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "maldone1 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; case 2: syndone1 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "syndone1 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; case 3: appdone1 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "appdone1 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; case 4: wthdone1 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "wthdone1 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; case 5: tacdone2 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "tacdone2 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; case 6: maldone2 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "maldone2 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; case 7: syndone2 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "syndone2 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; case 8: appdone2 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "appdone2 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; case 9: wthdone2 = 0xff; sprintf (dbgbuf, "wthdone2 = true "); marktime (dbgbuf); break; } } } --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How do I get the MAC address using vxWorks API? Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:01:11 -0800 From: Baris Dundar Organization: University of California at Berkeley Message-ID: <3A9D2ED7.161AA673@eecs.berkeley.edu> References: <97j87l$cqd$1@overload.lbl.gov> Matthew, "Brown, Matthew" wrote: > > I couldn't find any kind of direct call in the vxWorks API to get it Actually there is one if you are using MUX: char mData[6]; muxIoctl(pCookie, EIOCGADDR, mData); will return the MAC address in mData. Baris --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: PMC 663J Ethernet Card Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:07:52 +0100 From: "zz Fa.NewlinkSystems01" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <97jbo6$e1o$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi, The company that I am working for is looking to use the PMC 663J Ethernet Card with VxWorks, I have searched on WindSurf and found no mention of this card and have an enquiry already ongoing with WRS, but just wondered : 1) whether there are any drivers available for VxWorks?? 2) Anyone had any experience with it?? Thanks for any help you can provide, David Yates. - ----------------------------------------------------------- This Mail has been checked for Viruses Attention: Encrypted Mails can NOT be checked ! *** Diese Mail wurde auf Viren ueberprueft Hinweis: Verschluesselte Mails koennen NICHT geprueft werden! - ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: RE: PMC 663J Ethernet Card Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:48:03 -0800 From: "Crozier, Bruce" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <97jbo6$e1p$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hello David, We have the Ramix PMC661 and PMC663 cards working on PMC sites on several of our CPCI and VME boards. vxWorks drivers are available directly from Ramix. (http://www.ramix.com) Regards, Bruce Crozier Force Computers http://www.forcecomputers.com - -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 10:32 AM Subject: PMC 663J Ethernet Card Submitted-by: "zz Fa.NewlinkSystems01" Hi, The company that I am working for is looking to use the PMC 663J Ethernet Card with VxWorks, I have searched on WindSurf and found no mention of this card and have an enquiry already ongoing with WRS, but just wondered : 1) whether there are any drivers available for VxWorks?? 2) Anyone had any experience with it?? --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: netTask run put of stackmemory Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:20:55 -0500 From: "nitin kumar" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <97jbqo$h0m$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <97j96v$amh$1@sshuraac-i-1.production.compuserve.com> Hi, The netTask Params are set in netwrs/netLib.c. The stack size is the global variable netTaskStackSize. You can extern this var in your BSP and set it to greater than 10000 before calling netLibInit. Nitin Thomas Sandscheiper wrote in message news:97j96v$amh$1@sshuraac-i-1.production.compuserve.com... > Hello List, > > i have a problem with PPP and my netTask. > The netTask gets a Stack-overflow where i dial in via PPP. > Is it possible to extend stackspace for this task? > > thanks > thomas > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: In 8260 with mmu and cache enabled you have not flash visibility Date: 28 Feb 2001 18:54:24 +0100 From: Luca.Pellanda@italtel.it (Luca Pellanda) Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: <3A9D3C71.4933E16@italtel.it> Hi all, I'm using the VADS8260 vxWorks BSP and in config.h It is written that: " undef MMU and CACHE to assure FLASH visibility". So I have tried to make a memory display at flash address and I see only FFFF. Alkso,I think it is not possible to write to flash locations. But in 8260 I want to enable cache and mmu and I would like to write something in flash. What can I do ? Any body had similar situation before? Any idea is appreciated and welcome!!!! Thank you in advance. Luca - -- Posted from mex.italtel.it [138.132.117.4] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: DHCP Client and Symbol table Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:04:22 -0800 From: "Guna Venkat" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <97jip6$h6o$1@overload.lbl.gov> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C0A176.34BDA2F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All, We are trying to use DHCP Client of Vxworks for our testing , we use = Tornado for building the Vxworks image , in this case if we enable = "built-in symbol table" component then DHCP Client is not functioning = properly. Whereas if we go in for "downloadable symbol table" the same = scenario works fine.=20 We intend to know what is the bondage between Symbol table and DHCP = Client. I request the Vxworks users to throw some light on this. Best Regards Gunaseelan Venkatachary Ph:408 588 6672 - ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C0A176.34BDA2F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello All,
We are trying to use DHCP Client of = Vxworks for our=20 testing , we use Tornado for building the Vxworks image , in this case = if we=20 enable "built-in symbol table" component then DHCP Client is not = functioning=20 properly. Whereas if we go in for "downloadable symbol table" the same = scenario=20 works fine.
 
We intend to know what is the bondage = between=20 Symbol table and DHCP Client. I request the Vxworks users to throw some = light=20 on  this.
Best Regards
 
Gunaseelan Venkatachary
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- ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C0A176.34BDA2F0-- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: VME interrupts Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:34:23 -0600 From: Andrew Johnson Organization: APS, Argonne National Laboratory Message-ID: <3A9D52BF.D8D2CA47@aps.anl.gov> References: <3A9C2264.770A2346@student.cs.york.ac.uk> B Luong wrote: > > I am trying to generate a VME interrupt and handle it on multiple Power > Pc cards. Is there anyway to do this? I heard somewhere only one > interrupt can be generated at a time. At the moment I have 3 cards. I > generate an interrupt on 1 card and try to handle it on the other 2. > One card services the interrupt but the other one logs a 'bad vme > interrupt'. Is there a version of sysBusGenInt() that can generate > multiple interrupts so that I can handle them on both my card? See Joe Durusau's response, you can't handle the same interrupt more than once. > I am trying to synchronise the clocks on several Power Power Pc cards. > I want to be able to generate a VME bus interrupt and use ISRs to reset > the clocks on each board. Is there a better way to do this? If your boards use a Universe chip for their VMEbus interface (pretty likely) then you should use the Location Monitors that are built into that chip for exactly this kind of application. A read or write to any location in the 4Kbyte page being monitored will cause all boards that are monitoring this location to generate an interrupt. I don't have any code to support this, but it shouldn't be too hard to write. Get the Universe-2 User manual from http://www.tundra.com and look in the index for Location Monitors, and add the code to support them to the universe.c file (or sysLib.c if you prefer). NB: My universe.h file doesn't even list the control registers, so you'll have to add entries to that as well. - - Andrew - -- Every great idea appears crazy to start with. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Back plane communication and VxMP Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:38:28 -0600 From: Andrew Johnson Organization: APS, Argonne National Laboratory Message-ID: <3A9D53B4.152C0831@aps.anl.gov> References: <96t93p$5ve$1@overload.lbl.gov> <3A92D623.2DD3C94@aps.anl.gov> <97hssa$iiv$1@news.monmouth.com> Sandhya Potluri wrote: > > A related question. Can these two mechanisims co-exist? I need the > backplane driver at boot time and the VX_MP features after the system comes > up. Yes, they use the same underlying mechanisms for CPU synchronization/locking, just VxMP comes with more stuff you can do. - - Andrew - -- Every great idea appears crazy to start with. --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97joh0$fsv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <977b6n$n4g$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <0lfe9tcql2rvjdith255bektq42r5tnnjl@4ax.com> <977vu1$2td$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <979nl7$n62$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df5c$r8r$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc538.33eeb@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i46t$htj$7@intimidator.databasix.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards > >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get > >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on > >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! > >> >> > > >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had > >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a > >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. > >> >> > > >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the > >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. > >> > > >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a > >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers > >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have > >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and > >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. > >> > > >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. > > > >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured > >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few > >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. > > > Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try > anything to succeed, by now. Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would be surprised if they don't make the final 8. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97joif$fsv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <977b94$n4g$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <978003$2td$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <5t8g9tov0udchtfkl9sum9mi2g00hn4lr8@4ax.com> <979nm6$n62$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183k932qf3v@4ax.com> <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <7fbp9tgfdrqse3o8r737jradhe5 Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> > > >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> > > >> >> That does make sense. > >> > > >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> > > >> That is correct, everyone is different. > > > >But everyone should be like me. > > > And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't > like us, is a fuckhead! Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97jojf$fsv$11@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <977b94$n4g$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <978003$2td$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <5t8g9tov0udchtfkl9sum9mi2g00hn4lr8@4ax.com> <979nm6$n62$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183k932qf3v@4ax.com> <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> > > >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> > > >> >> That does make sense. > >> > > >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> > > >> That is correct, everyone is different. > > > >But everyone should be like me. > > > Like themselves, like you are? No, like me, like I am. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:02:34 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97jolp$fsv$12@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <977bb1$n4g$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <978054$2td$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <979not$n62$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df8i$r8r$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <52il9tggs3bi81m1bbi47uk2oo9src91bc@4ax.com> <3a9bc5ca.c97f4@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i489$htj$8@intimidator.databasix.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> worst! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few > >> >> >> >> >> >years he might start to learn. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew > >> >> >> >> >> on the floor. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as > >> >> >> >> >a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to > >> >> >> >> >get to either a sick, toilet or outside. > >> >> >> >> >Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but > >> >> >> >> >I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it > >> >> >> >> >and quiet a bit more in the sink. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> I think it is an alcohol tolerance thing, or just practice. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >I don't think so. I tend to think it is maturity. I know that Rob can drink a > >> >> >> >little bit more than me on a big night, I just know when to stop. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Drinking through to alcohol poisoning is usually a mistake. > >> >> > > >> >> >Or a sign of stupidity! Wow, that means Rob. > >> >> > > >> >> He will learn, to stop when the room spins, and go to bed before he > >> >> has to throw up to stay alive. > >> > > >> >Yes he will, but it will take quite awhile. > >> > > >> Eventually he will recall the hang-overs, while he is still drinking. > > > >Yeah, that's bad. > > > Maybe but it tends to slow the enthusiasm a bit, and one avoids the > spew in the bed syndrome. It's all a matter of balance. If you balance your drinking correctly, when you later try to walk you will be able to balance. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:03:37 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97jonr$fsv$13@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <3a9bc67a.b4ff2@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i49l$htj$9@intimidator.databasix.com> >> >Dave Korn wrote: > >> > > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >>clever. > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >>anywhere. > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to > >> >> live > >> >> >>with. > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >>find. > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >>actually > >> >> >>>>> >get > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup > >> >> session, > >> >> >>you > >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after > >> >> you > >> >> >>>>> >stop. > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >>hours > >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >>pissed > >> >> >>>>> >>>> while > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober > >> >> up > >> >> >>>>> >anyway. > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so > >> >> that > >> >> >>>>> >every > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >>you > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >>vodka > >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >>>>> >>>> > > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >>set > >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >>you > >> >> >>>>> >don't > >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of > >> >> those > >> >> >>>>> >machines > >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should > >> >> do > >> >> >>the > >> >> >>>>> >job > >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell > >> >> asleep. > >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >>>>> >> > >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? > >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >>could see > >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... > >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >>>>> > DaveK > >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>Actually that does work... > >> >> >> > >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> > > >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > >> >> > >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general > >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's > >> >> nice clean alcohol. > >> >> > >> >> DaveK > >> > > >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on > >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. > >> > >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. > > > >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to > >the gym with no ill affects. > > > A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. Oh and years of training with C&N products. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:04:46 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97jopv$fsv$14@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9780eg$6li$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <849g9ts8enim6u5gpk4rv68sevk54kmsrp@4ax.com> <3a9bc296.268eb@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4ba$htj$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <0nbp9tg0ep20cd2r29k1i3jskpnh Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will > >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Double be ok? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> >> > > >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. > >> >> > > >> >> It's better than being sober alone! > >> > > >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for > >> >drinking with your friends. > >> > > >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. > > > >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. > > > I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:05:54 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97jos1$fsv$15@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <9773p8$qf8$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4do$htj$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <3obp9t4llods18sb05qrueng9t0qg Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then > >> >> >smoke a bit, then > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes > >> >> >me fall > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training > >> >> >to be able to > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without > >> >> >pukeing or > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in > >> >> >and of itself :-D > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I > >> >> >still find it > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A > >> >> >couple of > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or > >> >> >just > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if > >> >> >you > >> >> >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and > >> >> >will > >> >> >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >> >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> Double be ok? > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >> >> >>>better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> >> > > >> >> > I'll help ya with that spare one! > >> >> > > >> >> > DaveK > >> >> > >> >> No problem Dave! > >> > > >> >You leave spare drinks lying around? > >> > > >> No that was the one I got for you, that you couldn't have because you > >> were driving. > > > >Oh... Woo. Thanks for clearing that up. I was nearly about to drop all > >communications with you. It was nice of you to give it to DaveK, though > >personally I would have drank it myself if I was you. > > > So would I, but he promised the next shout, and we kept drinking, and > I eventually woke up in a dumpster, but hey it was a great night! It has to have been a good night if you woke up in a dumpster. Did you end up with a traffic cone? > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: System hangs for certain Image sizes Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:08:05 -0800 From: "Anand Rangarajan" Organization: Intel Corporation Message-ID: <97jpbl$kmv@news.or.intel.com> References: <96vh89$dr6@news.or.intel.com> "Bill Pringlemeir" wrote in message news:u1yssj79f.fsf@yahoo.com... > >>>>> "Anand" == Anand Rangarajan writes: > > Anand> Hi All, I'm running VxWorks on a MIPS. The Vxworks application > Anand> image is compressed using deflate (comes with Tornado2.0) and > Anand> is decompressed using inflate. The compressed image size is > Anand> about 1.33 MB. The compression is about 78%. The problem is > Anand> that the system boots properly only for some image > Anand> sizes. Specifically, if I declare a global variable int > Anand> dummyArray[10000]; the system hangs after the following error > Anand> message. > > Do you have a cache? Is it possible that the data cache hasn't dumped > out your interrupt code so that the code cache can look up the value? > After the decompress you must flush the caches if you have done > something abnormal, like enabling the cache so that the decompression > runs faster (a very useful thing to do...). It was a cache problem alright. Thanks Bill. usrInit() { cacheLibInit(USER_I_CACHE_MODE, USER_D_CACHE_MODE); bzero(edata, end-edata); /*zero out bss in cache*/ : : excVecInit(); /* crash after this function */ : : cacheEnable(INSTRUCTION_CACHE); /* Enable Instruction cache */ cacheEnable(DATA_CACHE); /* Enable Data cache */ } Solution: When I flushed the data cache(bss part alone) using cacheClear(DATA_CACHE, edata, end-edata) after bzero() is called, everything seems to work fine. I would appreciate is someone can explain the following: why it crashed when i declared int dummyArray[10000]; and it didn't crash when i declared int dummyArray[100000]; or no dummyArray declaration. Thanks, Anand > > Also, it might be useful to declare some global _initialized_ data in > usrConfig.c and print out its value. For example, > > static unsigned long dataTest = 0x12345678UL; > ... > buffer[32]; > sprintf(buffer,"%lx",dataTest); > DebugPrint("data is "); > DebugPrint(buffer); > DebugPrint("\n"); > sprintf(buffer,"%p",&dataTest); > DebugPrint("pointer is "); > DebugPrint(buffer); > DebugPrint("\n"); > while(1); /* wait for data to print */ > > I have often found that the romdata, and initdata can be offset by > some value. If the code doesn't print out a correct values, then > the linker positioning and source are mixed up some how. Use a map > file to determine how. I believe that the excVecInit() function is > the first place to use this data. > > hth, > Bill > > -- > Useful vxWorks URLS, > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: serial ports, ioGlobalStdSet & shellOrigStdSet Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:43:10 -0000 From: "Matthew Barratt" Message-ID: <983396591.9437.0.nnrp-08.9e987524@news.demon.co.uk> Hello all, I'm having trouble with the functions ioGlobalStdSet/Get, shellOrigStdSet/Get and ioctl. I can successfully divert printfs using ioGlobalStdSet away from tyCo/0, but shellOrigStdSet doesn't divert the built in shell. Furthermore, close won't close the file descriptor for tyCo/0, nor can I successfully use ioctl to change the baud rate for tyCo/0 (it does something, but all my terminal prints is garbage [baud rate set correctly]). Is there something that holds on to tyCo/0 forever no matter what I try and do? Also, does anyone know how ioGlobalStdSet/Get (which return int file descriptors) relates to stdin, stdout and stderr (which are FILE* streams)? Many thanks in advance, Matthew Barratt --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: burn boot image into boot flash Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:02:46 -0000 From: "Matthew Barratt" Message-ID: <983397767.10182.0.nnrp-08.9e987524@news.demon.co.uk> References: It's all to do with which target you make. "make vxWorks.st_rom" builds a romable kernel with a built in symbol table (you have to get the setup in WindCfg right too, look out for built in symbol table, target symbol table, loader, unloader type options, and you don't want net symbol table included), whereas "make vxWorks.rom" won't. Matthew Barratt "Jason Jiang" wrote in message news:OERm6.19347$Sl.850017@iad-read.news.verio.net... > I built a compressed bootable project in Tornado and combined the boot > program and vxWorks image together. I got two output files: "compress.hex" > and "compress". > 1) File "compress.hex": > I used Vision Click to convert "compress.hex" into "compress.bin" (its size > is 426,668 bytes), and burned into boot flash, then powered off and powered > up the target (8260). It can bring up the target. I found compress.bin has a > header with 288 bytes. Vision Click just burned the remaining > 426,668-288=426,380 bytes into the boot flash. Then I used my code to > "fopen()" the compress.bin, skipped the first 288 bytes using "fseek()", > then wrote the remaining 426,380 bytes into the boot flash using flash > driver, powered off and powered on. It could still bring up the target. But > the tShell could not support any commands like "i", "help". Seems there is > no symbol table there. Where can I get it? > > 2) File "compress" > It is boot image in ELF format. It has segments like text, data, bss, sbss, > sdata, etc. I want to burn this file into boot flash to bring up my target. > But which segments I should use except text segment? > > Thanks for any reply. > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Is this really too hard to be impossible? Winsh/Target STDIN Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:22:58 -0800 From: "Gang Wang" Organization: None Message-ID: Hi, Here is the problem I have been trying to solve for a long time. System: Win32 vxWork 5.4 with Tornado IDE Target: hooked up with typical ethernet + serial at COM1. Problem: I want to create a an interactive program on running on the target which looks like a shell but it runs its own commands. It would be started in a Winsh windows and goes like this where the lines started with status are output from the target system. >MyShellTask() % connect http://www.windriver.com status: connected % set data [ getData http://www.windriver.com ] status: done ... The problem is that I could not get the typed characters echoed back as I am typing in. I have been playing around with the ioctl function and different approach with read(). None of them work. I could only get thing appear in the winsh window after I hit return key. Here is the one of the try I did to give you some idea of what I am trying to do: /* Enter raw mode and diable feedback*/ ioctl(0, FIOSETOPTIONS, OPT_ECHO); ioctl(1, FIOSETOPTIONS, ~OPT_LINE); while (1) { while(1){ if ( n>=256) { n=0; break; } if(read(0, &data[n], 1)==-1) break; if(data[n]=='\b') { printf("\b \b"); //to erase the previous character } if(data[n]=='\n') { data[n]='\0'; break ;} fprintf(stdout, "%c", data[n]); fflush(stdout); n++; } if ( data[0] == 'q' ) break; else printf("I get something\n"); } Any help from your guys? --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: New Exploder Web Interface and other administrivia Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:38:42 -0800 From: Alan Biocca Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20010228164551.00bcda50@swr.lbl.gov> The Web Interface for the VxWorks Mailing List Exploder Subscription Management has been put into production. This allows users to subscribe, unsubscribe, and select Immediate and/or Digest list options using a web browser. Visit the website at the new URL: http://www-vxw.lbl.gov/vxworks to access these features, as well as our article archives and posting information. Please use the new web interface to reduce our administration effort, and get near-realtime response. The interface uses the email name and password to protect against tampering. To set your password the first time an emailed authentication code is used to protect against hijacking. There was one bounce that leaked through the list today, it came within one character of an existing filter deleting it. I have fixed that. Just don't use the word 'undeliverable' in your subject lines anymore. There is a problem with the digests. Our local news server is delivering a bad message to our newsreader program and crashing it, thus no comp.os.vxworks digests. This clears itself when the bad article times out, and the remaining articles come through then in a large batch. Sorry for the inconvenience. One last request - please everyone set your email for PLAIN TEXT, do not use HTML and/or MIME as this wastes bandwidth and doesn't work well. Thanks, Alan K Biocca AKBiocca@lbl.gov --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 14:30:27 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <977vu1$2td$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <979nl7$n62$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df5c$r8r$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc538.33eeb@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i46t$htj$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97joh0$fsv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get >> >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on >> >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had >> >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a >> >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the >> >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. >> >> > >> >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a >> >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers >> >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have >> >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and >> >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. >> >> > >> >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. >> > >> >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured >> >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few >> >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. >> > >> Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try >> anything to succeed, by now. > >Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would >be surprised if they don't make the final 8. > It is about time they did, but they won't win the Grand Final! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 14:30:58 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <978003$2td$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <5t8g9tov0udchtfkl9sum9mi2g00hn4lr8@4ax.com> <979nm6$n62$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183k932qf3v@4ax.com> <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <7fbp9tgfdrqse3o8r737jradhe54nmtbqn@4ax.com> <97joif$fsv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> > >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> > >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> > >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> > >> >But everyone should be like me. >> > >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't >> like us, is a fuckhead! > >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. > Are there? - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 14:31:37 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <4kgr9tchhur5fjbaun5jvfmdlf38uqfpkg@4ax.com> References: <978003$2td$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <5t8g9tov0udchtfkl9sum9mi2g00hn4lr8@4ax.com> <979nm6$n62$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183k932qf3v@4ax.com> <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jojf$fsv$11@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> > >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> > >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> > >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> > >> >But everyone should be like me. >> > >> Like themselves, like you are? > >No, like me, like I am. > I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 14:32:15 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <978054$2td$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <979not$n62$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df8i$r8r$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <52il9tggs3bi81m1bbi47uk2oo9src91bc@4ax.com> <3a9bc5ca.c97f4@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i489$htj$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jolp$fsv$12@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:02:34 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> worst! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few >> >> >> >> >> >> >years he might start to learn. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew >> >> >> >> >> >> on the floor. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as >> >> >> >> >> >a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to >> >> >> >> >> >get to either a sick, toilet or outside. >> >> >> >> >> >Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but >> >> >> >> >> >I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it >> >> >> >> >> >and quiet a bit more in the sink. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> I think it is an alcohol tolerance thing, or just practice. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >I don't think so. I tend to think it is maturity. I know that Rob can drink a >> >> >> >> >little bit more than me on a big night, I just know when to stop. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Drinking through to alcohol poisoning is usually a mistake. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Or a sign of stupidity! Wow, that means Rob. >> >> >> > >> >> >> He will learn, to stop when the room spins, and go to bed before he >> >> >> has to throw up to stay alive. >> >> > >> >> >Yes he will, but it will take quite awhile. >> >> > >> >> Eventually he will recall the hang-overs, while he is still drinking. >> > >> >Yeah, that's bad. >> > >> Maybe but it tends to slow the enthusiasm a bit, and one avoids the >> spew in the bed syndrome. > >It's all a matter of balance. If you balance your drinking correctly, when >you later try to walk you will be able to balance. > A fine philosophy to which I also subscribe. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 14:33:49 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <3mgr9tg7kr9v69l91pgbeaev72tfdtd24n@4ax.com> References: <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <3a9bc67a.b4ff2@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i49l$htj$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jonr$fsv$13@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:03:37 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> >>clever. >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> >>anywhere. >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to >> >> >> live >> >> >> >>with. >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> >>find. >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> >>actually >> >> >> >>>>> >get >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup >> >> >> session, >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after >> >> >> you >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> >>hours >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> >>pissed >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober >> >> >> up >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so >> >> >> that >> >> >> >>>>> >every >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> >>vodka >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> >>set >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >>>>> >don't >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of >> >> >> those >> >> >> >>>>> >machines >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should >> >> >> do >> >> >> >>the >> >> >> >>>>> >job >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell >> >> >> asleep. >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> >>could see >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! >> >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> > >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. >> > >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to >> >the gym with no ill affects. >> > >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? > >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. >Oh and years of training with C&N products. > I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a bottle. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 14:34:36 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <0pgr9tgfe46oob4uibd2gu1bomiqshucoi@4ax.com> References: <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9780eg$6li$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <849g9ts8enim6u5gpk4rv68sevk54kmsrp@4ax.com> <3a9bc296.268eb@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4ba$htj$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <0nbp9tg0ep20cd2r29k1i3jskpnh4kfp8d@4ax.com> <97jopv$fsv$14@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:04:46 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. >> >> >> > >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! >> >> > >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for >> >> >drinking with your friends. >> >> > >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. >> > >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. >> > >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! > >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. > Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 14:35:33 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4do$htj$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <3obp9t4llods18sb05qrueng9t0qgifh96@4ax.com> <97jos1$fsv$15@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:05:54 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then >> >> >> >smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes >> >> >> >me fall >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training >> >> >> >to be able to >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without >> >> >> >pukeing or >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in >> >> >> >and of itself :-D >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I >> >> >> >still find it >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A >> >> >> >couple of >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or >> >> >> >just >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and >> >> >> >will >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> Double be ok? >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >> >>>better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I'll help ya with that spare one! >> >> >> > >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> No problem Dave! >> >> > >> >> >You leave spare drinks lying around? >> >> > >> >> No that was the one I got for you, that you couldn't have because you >> >> were driving. >> > >> >Oh... Woo. Thanks for clearing that up. I was nearly about to drop all >> >communications with you. It was nice of you to give it to DaveK, though >> >personally I would have drank it myself if I was you. >> > >> So would I, but he promised the next shout, and we kept drinking, and >> I eventually woke up in a dumpster, but hey it was a great night! > >It has to have been a good night if you woke up in a dumpster. Did you >end up with a traffic cone? > It was a stop sign this time, the whole thing sign, pole and lump of concrete. I wish I could remember how that happened! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Task Hook Switch Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 00:02:03 -0600 From: "Adam Cabler" Message-ID: I'm trying to execute a printf in a task hook switch routine. Has anyone had problems with this before? When I call the code - the shell loses control and the target server backplane crashes. Is it just me? adam --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97koiq$3si$5@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <978003$2td$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <5t8g9tov0udchtfkl9sum9mi2g00hn4lr8@4ax.com> <979nm6$n62$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183k932qf3v@4ax.com> <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <7fbp9tgfdrqse3o8r737jradhe54nmtbqn@4ax.com> <97joif$fsv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> > > >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> > > >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> > > >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> > > >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't > >> like us, is a fuckhead! > > > >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. > > > Are there? Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:06:27 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97kohg$3si$4@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <977vu1$2td$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <979nl7$n62$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df5c$r8r$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc538.33eeb@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i46t$htj$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97joh0$fsv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get > >> >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on > >> >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had > >> >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a > >> >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the > >> >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. > >> >> > > >> >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a > >> >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers > >> >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have > >> >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and > >> >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. > >> >> > > >> >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. > >> > > >> >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured > >> >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few > >> >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. > >> > > >> Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try > >> anything to succeed, by now. > > > >Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would > >be surprised if they don't make the final 8. > > > It is about time they did, but they won't win the Grand Final! I doubt they would, but a lot of people would love it if they did. By beating an interstate team or the bombers. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97kojt$3si$6@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <978003$2td$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <5t8g9tov0udchtfkl9sum9mi2g00hn4lr8@4ax.com> <979nm6$n62$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183k932qf3v@4ax.com> <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jojf$fsv$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <4kgr9tchhur5fjbaun5jvfmdlf Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> > > >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> > > >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> > > >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> > > >> Like themselves, like you are? > > > >No, like me, like I am. > > > I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:08:56 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97kom5$3si$7@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <978054$2td$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <979not$n62$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df8i$r8r$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <52il9tggs3bi81m1bbi47uk2oo9src91bc@4ax.com> <3a9bc5ca.c97f4@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i489$htj$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jolp$fsv$12@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:02:34 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> worst! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few > >> >> >> >> >> >> >years he might start to learn. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew > >> >> >> >> >> >> on the floor. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as > >> >> >> >> >> >a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to > >> >> >> >> >> >get to either a sick, toilet or outside. > >> >> >> >> >> >Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but > >> >> >> >> >> >I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it > >> >> >> >> >> >and quiet a bit more in the sink. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> I think it is an alcohol tolerance thing, or just practice. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >I don't think so. I tend to think it is maturity. I know that Rob can drink a > >> >> >> >> >little bit more than me on a big night, I just know when to stop. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Drinking through to alcohol poisoning is usually a mistake. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Or a sign of stupidity! Wow, that means Rob. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> He will learn, to stop when the room spins, and go to bed before he > >> >> >> has to throw up to stay alive. > >> >> > > >> >> >Yes he will, but it will take quite awhile. > >> >> > > >> >> Eventually he will recall the hang-overs, while he is still drinking. > >> > > >> >Yeah, that's bad. > >> > > >> Maybe but it tends to slow the enthusiasm a bit, and one avoids the > >> spew in the bed syndrome. > > > >It's all a matter of balance. If you balance your drinking correctly, when > >you later try to walk you will be able to balance. > > > A fine philosophy to which I also subscribe. But of course, I don't always follow it. But even if you cross the balance line, or fall off the balance beam as I like to say, it's still a lot of fun waking that line/beam..... - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:10:33 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97kop6$3si$8@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <974eua$esl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <3a9bc67a.b4ff2@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i49l$htj$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jonr$fsv$13@intimidator.databasix.com> <3mgr9tg7kr9v69l91pgbeaev72tfdt Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:03:37 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >> >>clever. > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >> >>anywhere. > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to > >> >> >> live > >> >> >> >>with. > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >> >>find. > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >> >>actually > >> >> >> >>>>> >get > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup > >> >> >> session, > >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after > >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >> >>hours > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >> >>pissed > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober > >> >> >> up > >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so > >> >> >> that > >> >> >> >>>>> >every > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >> >>vodka > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >> >>set > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >>>>> >don't > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of > >> >> >> those > >> >> >> >>>>> >machines > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should > >> >> >> do > >> >> >> >>the > >> >> >> >>>>> >job > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell > >> >> >> asleep. > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? > >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >> >>could see > >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... > >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general > >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's > >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> > > >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on > >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. > >> >> > >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. > >> > > >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to > >> >the gym with no ill affects. > >> > > >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? > > > >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. > >Oh and years of training with C&N products. > > > I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked > state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a > bottle. Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of the finish vodkas, they make it good too. But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:11:22 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9780eg$6li$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <849g9ts8enim6u5gpk4rv68sevk54kmsrp@4ax.com> <3a9bc296.268eb@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4ba$htj$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <0nbp9tg0ep20cd2r29k1i3jskpnh4kfp8d@4ax.com> <97jopv$fsv$14@intimidator.databasix.com> <0pgr9tgfe46oob4uibd2gu1bomi Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:04:46 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! > >> >> > > >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for > >> >> >drinking with your friends. > >> >> > > >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. > >> > > >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. > >> > > >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! > > > >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. > > > Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. To much hassle. And I don't like needles. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:12:42 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97kotb$3si$10@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <9776ls$i0c$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <69ae9tcpijcojopmnijeb6pkav2ruj8as6@4ax.com> <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4do$htj$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <3obp9t4llods18sb05qrueng9t0qgifh96@4ax.com> <97jos1$fsv$15@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:05:54 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then > >> >> >> >smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes > >> >> >> >me fall > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training > >> >> >> >to be able to > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without > >> >> >> >pukeing or > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in > >> >> >> >and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I > >> >> >> >still find it > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A > >> >> >> >couple of > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or > >> >> >> >just > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if > >> >> >> >you > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and > >> >> >> >will > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >> >> >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >>>> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >>>> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >> >> >> >>>better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I'll help ya with that spare one! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> > >> >> >> No problem Dave! > >> >> > > >> >> >You leave spare drinks lying around? > >> >> > > >> >> No that was the one I got for you, that you couldn't have because you > >> >> were driving. > >> > > >> >Oh... Woo. Thanks for clearing that up. I was nearly about to drop all > >> >communications with you. It was nice of you to give it to DaveK, though > >> >personally I would have drank it myself if I was you. > >> > > >> So would I, but he promised the next shout, and we kept drinking, and > >> I eventually woke up in a dumpster, but hey it was a great night! > > > >It has to have been a good night if you woke up in a dumpster. Did you > >end up with a traffic cone? > > > It was a stop sign this time, the whole thing sign, pole and lump of > concrete. I wish I could remember how that happened! Check your house for a pick.... Or a nieghbourhood car for panel damage. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:30:45 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <979nl7$n62$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df5c$r8r$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc538.33eeb@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i46t$htj$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97joh0$fsv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kohg$3si$4@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:06:27 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on >> >> >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had >> >> >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a >> >> >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the >> >> >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a >> >> >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers >> >> >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have >> >> >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and >> >> >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. >> >> >> > >> >> >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. >> >> > >> >> >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured >> >> >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few >> >> >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. >> >> > >> >> Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try >> >> anything to succeed, by now. >> > >> >Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would >> >be surprised if they don't make the final 8. >> > >> It is about time they did, but they won't win the Grand Final! > >I doubt they would, but a lot of people would love it if they did. >By beating an interstate team or the bombers. > True, but all those people are wrong! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:31:21 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <979nm6$n62$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183k932qf3v@4ax.com> <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <7fbp9tgfdrqse3o8r737jradhe54nmtbqn@4ax.com> <97joif$fsv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97koiq$3si$5@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> > >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> > >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> > >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! >> > >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. >> > >> Are there? > >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. > Then there are those who don't like me. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:31:48 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <979nm6$n62$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183k932qf3v@4ax.com> <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jojf$fsv$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <4kgr9tchhur5fjbaun5jvfmdlf38uqfpkg@4ax.com> <97kojt$3si$6@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> > >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> > >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> > >> >> Like themselves, like you are? >> > >> >No, like me, like I am. >> > >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! > >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. > Fortunately you won't be able to. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:32:19 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <979not$n62$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df8i$r8r$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <52il9tggs3bi81m1bbi47uk2oo9src91bc@4ax.com> <3a9bc5ca.c97f4@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i489$htj$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jolp$fsv$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kom5$3si$7@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:08:56 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:02:34 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> worst! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >years he might start to learn. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew >> >> >> >> >> >> >> on the floor. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as >> >> >> >> >> >> >a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to >> >> >> >> >> >> >get to either a sick, toilet or outside. >> >> >> >> >> >> >Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but >> >> >> >> >> >> >I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it >> >> >> >> >> >> >and quiet a bit more in the sink. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> I think it is an alcohol tolerance thing, or just practice. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >I don't think so. I tend to think it is maturity. I know that Rob can drink a >> >> >> >> >> >little bit more than me on a big night, I just know when to stop. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Drinking through to alcohol poisoning is usually a mistake. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Or a sign of stupidity! Wow, that means Rob. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> He will learn, to stop when the room spins, and go to bed before he >> >> >> >> has to throw up to stay alive. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Yes he will, but it will take quite awhile. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Eventually he will recall the hang-overs, while he is still drinking. >> >> > >> >> >Yeah, that's bad. >> >> > >> >> Maybe but it tends to slow the enthusiasm a bit, and one avoids the >> >> spew in the bed syndrome. >> > >> >It's all a matter of balance. If you balance your drinking correctly, when >> >you later try to walk you will be able to balance. >> > >> A fine philosophy to which I also subscribe. > >But of course, I don't always follow it. But even if you cross the >balance line, or fall off the balance beam as I like to say, it's still >a lot of fun waking that line/beam..... No-one is perfect, one simply tries. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:32:49 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <3a9bc67a.b4ff2@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i49l$htj$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jonr$fsv$13@intimidator.databasix.com> <3mgr9tg7kr9v69l91pgbeaev72tfdtd24n@4ax.com> <97kop6$3si$8@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:10:33 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:03:37 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> >> >>clever. >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to >> >> >> >> live >> >> >> >> >>with. >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> >> >>find. >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> >> >>actually >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup >> >> >> >> session, >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> >> >>hours >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> >> >>pissed >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober >> >> >> >> up >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> >> >>vodka >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> >> >>set >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of >> >> >> >> those >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should >> >> >> >> do >> >> >> >> >>the >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell >> >> >> >> asleep. >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> >> >>could see >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. >> >> >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. >> >> > >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. >> >> > >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? >> > >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. >> > >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a >> bottle. > >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! > Same goes for Scotch! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:33:21 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9780eg$6li$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <849g9ts8enim6u5gpk4rv68sevk54kmsrp@4ax.com> <3a9bc296.268eb@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4ba$htj$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <0nbp9tg0ep20cd2r29k1i3jskpnh4kfp8d@4ax.com> <97jopv$fsv$14@intimidator.databasix.com> <0pgr9tgfe46oob4uibd2gu1bomiqshucoi@4ax.com> <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:11:22 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:04:46 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. >> >> >> > >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. >> >> > >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. >> >> > >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! >> > >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. >> > >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. > >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. > And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:34:14 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4do$htj$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <3obp9t4llods18sb05qrueng9t0qgifh96@4ax.com> <97jos1$fsv$15@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kotb$3si$10@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:12:42 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:05:54 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then >> >> >> >> >smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes >> >> >> >> >me fall >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training >> >> >> >> >to be able to >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without >> >> >> >> >pukeing or >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in >> >> >> >> >and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I >> >> >> >> >still find it >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A >> >> >> >> >couple of >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or >> >> >> >> >just >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if >> >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and >> >> >> >> >will >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >> >> >>>better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > I'll help ya with that spare one! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No problem Dave! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >You leave spare drinks lying around? >> >> >> > >> >> >> No that was the one I got for you, that you couldn't have because you >> >> >> were driving. >> >> > >> >> >Oh... Woo. Thanks for clearing that up. I was nearly about to drop all >> >> >communications with you. It was nice of you to give it to DaveK, though >> >> >personally I would have drank it myself if I was you. >> >> > >> >> So would I, but he promised the next shout, and we kept drinking, and >> >> I eventually woke up in a dumpster, but hey it was a great night! >> > >> >It has to have been a good night if you woke up in a dumpster. Did you >> >end up with a traffic cone? >> > >> It was a stop sign this time, the whole thing sign, pole and lump of >> concrete. I wish I could remember how that happened! > >Check your house for a pick.... Or a nieghbourhood car for panel damage. > I guess it must have been Dave K's car! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks,comp.realtime Subject: Re: PowerPC 7400 Altivec and VxWorks Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 06:41:34 GMT From: Al Organization: Boeing Message-ID: <3A9D7E4E.E3DDB65B@boeing.com> References: <36Wg6.16$yi4.12223@newsr1.u-net.net> Hi, Has anybody been able to get AltiVec instructions to work in multiple tasks, where the vector registers are saved correctly? What about vec_alloc() and the other alloc prototypes? We are using the Green Hills compiler, since it already supports the full AltiVec PIM, but realized vxWorks needs some work. We are still in the beginning phases, so are thinking about going with Green Hills INTEGRITY too. They've had full support for the AltiVec for a few months now on the MCPN765 and plan to come out with full support of the MVME5101 soon, which is the board we are interested in. Does anybody have any experience with INTEGRITY? Thanks, Al Rick Cellucci wrote: > in article Lxnh6.7597$zz4.180549@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com, Dave Korn at > no.spam@my.mailbox.invalid wrote on 2/10/01 10:19 PM: > > > > >> FWIW, I believe there are still VxWorks-related issues that a new gcc won't > >> solve. Specifically, without changing the kernel source code, > > > > I imagine you could use a task context switch hook to save and restore the > > regs, and as for ISRs, they already need to call a routine that's something > > like fppSaveContext, you could add similar for the altivec regs. > > You know, taskSwitchHookAdd just might work if I store pointers to AltiVec > register save areas in the Task Control Blocks. I incorrectly assumed that > the kernel would have to be changed. > > Thanks Dave. > > --------------------------------------------------- > Rick Cellucci > Hartwood Software Engineering, Inc. > Email: h a r t w o o d @ c r o s s l i n k . n e t > --------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:52:54 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97kr8j$jv$6@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <979nm6$n62$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183k932qf3v@4ax.com> <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <7fbp9tgfdrqse3o8r737jradhe54nmtbqn@4ax.com> <97joif$fsv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97koiq$3si$5@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> > > >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> > > >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't > >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! > >> > > >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. > >> > > >> Are there? > > > >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. > > > Then there are those who don't like me. Who wouldn't lik you? > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97kr9u$jv$7@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <979nm6$n62$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183k932qf3v@4ax.com> <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jojf$fsv$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <4kgr9tchhur5fjbaun5jvfmdlf38uqfpkg@4ax.com> <97kojt$3si$6@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> > > >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> > > >> >> Like themselves, like you are? > >> > > >> >No, like me, like I am. > >> > > >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! > > > >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. > > > Fortunately you won't be able to. Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that not everyone is as luck as me. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:54:13 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97krb3$jv$8@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <979not$n62$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df8i$r8r$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <52il9tggs3bi81m1bbi47uk2oo9src91bc@4ax.com> <3a9bc5ca.c97f4@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i489$htj$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jolp$fsv$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kom5$3si$7@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:08:56 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:02:34 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> worst! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >years he might start to learn. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> on the floor. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as > >> >> >> >> >> >> >a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >get to either a sick, toilet or outside. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >and quiet a bit more in the sink. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> I think it is an alcohol tolerance thing, or just practice. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >I don't think so. I tend to think it is maturity. I know that Rob can drink a > >> >> >> >> >> >little bit more than me on a big night, I just know when to stop. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Drinking through to alcohol poisoning is usually a mistake. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Or a sign of stupidity! Wow, that means Rob. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> He will learn, to stop when the room spins, and go to bed before he > >> >> >> >> has to throw up to stay alive. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Yes he will, but it will take quite awhile. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Eventually he will recall the hang-overs, while he is still drinking. > >> >> > > >> >> >Yeah, that's bad. > >> >> > > >> >> Maybe but it tends to slow the enthusiasm a bit, and one avoids the > >> >> spew in the bed syndrome. > >> > > >> >It's all a matter of balance. If you balance your drinking correctly, when > >> >you later try to walk you will be able to balance. > >> > > >> A fine philosophy to which I also subscribe. > > > >But of course, I don't always follow it. But even if you cross the > >balance line, or fall off the balance beam as I like to say, it's still > >a lot of fun waking that line/beam..... > > No-one is perfect, one simply tries. Yes, the fun is in the trying. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:55:22 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97krda$jv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <6Hsl6.558$yi4.518064@newsr1.u-net.net> <3a9bc67a.b4ff2@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i49l$htj$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jonr$fsv$13@intimidator.databasix.com> <3mgr9tg7kr9v69l91pgbeaev72tfdtd24n@4ax.com> <97kop6$3si$8@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:10:33 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:03:37 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >> >> >>clever. > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to > >> >> >> >> live > >> >> >> >> >>with. > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >> >> >>find. > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >> >> >>actually > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup > >> >> >> >> session, > >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after > >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >> >> >>hours > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >> >> >>pissed > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober > >> >> >> >> up > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so > >> >> >> >> that > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >> >> >>vodka > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >> >> >>set > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of > >> >> >> >> those > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should > >> >> >> >> do > >> >> >> >> >>the > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell > >> >> >> >> asleep. > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? > >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >> >> >>could see > >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... > >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general > >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's > >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on > >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. > >> >> > > >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to > >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. > >> >> > > >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? > >> > > >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. > >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. > >> > > >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked > >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a > >> bottle. > > > >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond > >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of > >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. > >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it > >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! > > > Same goes for Scotch! Yep, it used to be Australian scotch was 37% and Scotch Scotch was 40%. Easy to spot the difference, now you have to do some research if you want to avoid the C&N. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:56:06 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9780eg$6li$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <849g9ts8enim6u5gpk4rv68sevk54kmsrp@4ax.com> <3a9bc296.268eb@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4ba$htj$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <0nbp9tg0ep20cd2r29k1i3jskpnh4kfp8d@4ax.com> <97jopv$fsv$14@intimidator.databasix.com> <0pgr9tgfe46oob4uibd2gu1bomiqshucoi@4ax.com> <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:11:22 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:04:46 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for > >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. > >> >> > > >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. > >> >> > > >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! > >> > > >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. > >> > > >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. > > > >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. > > > And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried and hopefully never will. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: tffs on PPMC750 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:54:20 +0530 From: "Venkatesh JS" Organization: Motorola Message-ID: <97kso1$d05$1@newshost.mot.com> hi. Has any one tried including TFFS component on PPMC750 board ? I have MTD and socket layer code for AMD series NOR flash devices which holds good for flash device on PPMC750 card(Am29DL323C). This MTD uses Common Flash Interface(CFI) to program the flash. We can get device and manufacturer details from flash device by sending some command sequences on some specified address(Given in Command defination tables in AMD product literature). But my code fails to get this detail. After writing command sequences , when i try to read the result i am not able to get any valid information. My MTD code uses this logic to write command sequence: WriteCmdSequence(FLASH_BASE_ADRS,0x00aa00aa, 0x555) { adrs = FLASH_BASE_ADRS + 8 * (0x555); *adrs = 0x00aa00aa; } Here 0x00aa00aa is command sequence defined by AMD and 0x555 is address specified by AMD product guide. I have given flash base address as 0xfff00000. Does any one know how solve this problem ? After a recent suggestion, i tried writing into PPMC750 mapped addresses for flash address.(Given in PPMC750 programmers manual). that is if flash address is 0x000555, then i wrote at 0xff000d55 etc. This also did not work. Any ideas on this ? regds, venkat --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: VxWorks and MIPS Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:12:23 GMT From: "Corey Ashford" Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: References: The BCM3350 is a MIPS32 architecture chip. VxWorks AE claims to support MIPS, but that may imply MIPS III, MIPS IV, and MIPS64, which are all 64-bit architectures. VxWorks 5.4 (Not AE) has BSPs for the IDT 79S364 which contains a MIPS32 chip - the 79S32364. Earlier VxWorks releases did support 32-bit MIPS chips such as the R3081. However, they aren't MIPS32 chips, they were MIPS I chips which differ from MIPS32 in how they deal with interrupt handling (among other things). Bottom line is that you should contact Wind River to see if they support MIPS32 chips in VxWorks AE (if you want to use that version). - - Corey "Jaz" wrote in message news:WY7n6.261123$Pm2.4059558@news20.bellglobal.com... > I am new to MIPS processors, I will be working with a broadcom 3350 MIPS > processor. Windriver has no BSP for this chip, is there another BSP that > would be a good starting point for doing BSP development with this chip? > > jazz --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 19:18:40 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183k932qf3v@4ax.com> <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <7fbp9tgfdrqse3o8r737jradhe54nmtbqn@4ax.com> <97joif$fsv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97koiq$3si$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr8j$jv$6@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:52:54 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> >> > >> >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't >> >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! >> >> > >> >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. >> >> > >> >> Are there? >> > >> >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. >> > >> Then there are those who don't like me. > >Who wouldn't lik you? > The same people who don't like you, I guess. I.e. fuckkkheads! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 19:19:16 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <4f1s9tceb1gdtsvfqk9tato69t5e2ibpl2@4ax.com> References: <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183k932qf3v@4ax.com> <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jojf$fsv$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <4kgr9tchhur5fjbaun5jvfmdlf38uqfpkg@4ax.com> <97kojt$3si$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr9u$jv$7@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? >> >> > >> >> >No, like me, like I am. >> >> > >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! >> > >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. >> > >> Fortunately you won't be able to. > >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that >not everyone is as luck as me. > I suggest counseling! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 19:20:31 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <8g1s9t4hdm4pkppvupoj9b85f3cic59obn@4ax.com> References: <97df8i$r8r$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <52il9tggs3bi81m1bbi47uk2oo9src91bc@4ax.com> <3a9bc5ca.c97f4@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i489$htj$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jolp$fsv$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kom5$3si$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krb3$jv$8@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:54:13 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:08:56 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:02:34 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> worst! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >years he might start to learn. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> on the floor. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >get to either a sick, toilet or outside. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and quiet a bit more in the sink. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I think it is an alcohol tolerance thing, or just practice. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I don't think so. I tend to think it is maturity. I know that Rob can drink a >> >> >> >> >> >> >little bit more than me on a big night, I just know when to stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Drinking through to alcohol poisoning is usually a mistake. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Or a sign of stupidity! Wow, that means Rob. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> He will learn, to stop when the room spins, and go to bed before he >> >> >> >> >> has to throw up to stay alive. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Yes he will, but it will take quite awhile. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Eventually he will recall the hang-overs, while he is still drinking. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Yeah, that's bad. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Maybe but it tends to slow the enthusiasm a bit, and one avoids the >> >> >> spew in the bed syndrome. >> >> > >> >> >It's all a matter of balance. If you balance your drinking correctly, when >> >> >you later try to walk you will be able to balance. >> >> > >> >> A fine philosophy to which I also subscribe. >> > >> >But of course, I don't always follow it. But even if you cross the >> >balance line, or fall off the balance beam as I like to say, it's still >> >a lot of fun waking that line/beam..... >> >> No-one is perfect, one simply tries. > >Yes, the fun is in the trying. > It is, however, important to try. This is what Rob fails to perceive in his youthful exuberance! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 19:21:24 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <3a9bc67a.b4ff2@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i49l$htj$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jonr$fsv$13@intimidator.databasix.com> <3mgr9tg7kr9v69l91pgbeaev72tfdtd24n@4ax.com> <97kop6$3si$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krda$jv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:55:22 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:10:33 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:03:37 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> >> >> >>clever. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to >> >> >> >> >> live >> >> >> >> >> >>with. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> >> >> >>find. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> >> >> >>actually >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup >> >> >> >> >> session, >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> >> >> >>hours >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> >> >> >>pissed >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober >> >> >> >> >> up >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> >> >> >>vodka >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >>set >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of >> >> >> >> >> those >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should >> >> >> >> >> do >> >> >> >> >> >>the >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell >> >> >> >> >> asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> >> >> >>could see >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general >> >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's >> >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on >> >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to >> >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. >> >> >> > >> >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? >> >> > >> >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. >> >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. >> >> > >> >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked >> >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a >> >> bottle. >> > >> >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond >> >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of >> >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. >> >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it >> >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! >> > >> Same goes for Scotch! > >Yep, it used to be Australian scotch was 37% and Scotch >Scotch was 40%. Easy to spot the difference, now you have >to do some research if you want to avoid the C&N. > Actually, for me, it is the alcohol content that matters to me! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 19:22:20 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <8k1s9t4bke6qipkh8d2hsqjniie5do0ns1@4ax.com> References: <9780eg$6li$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <849g9ts8enim6u5gpk4rv68sevk54kmsrp@4ax.com> <3a9bc296.268eb@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4ba$htj$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <0nbp9tg0ep20cd2r29k1i3jskpnh4kfp8d@4ax.com> <97jopv$fsv$14@intimidator.databasix.com> <0pgr9tgfe46oob4uibd2gu1bomiqshucoi@4ax.com> <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:56:06 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:11:22 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:04:46 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. >> >> >> > >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! >> >> > >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. >> >> > >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. >> > >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. >> > >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! > >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried >and hopefully never will. > It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am sorry for bringing it up! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: FTP with mkdir Date: 1 Mar 2001 09:39:52 GMT From: borkhuis@agere.com (Johan Borkhuis) Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: References: <97j0dl$add$1@sshuraaa-i-1.production.compuserve.com> <97j8qi$jo3$1@sshuraaa-i-1.production.compuserve.com> "Thomas Sandscheiper" wrote: >Thanks Johan, >but i can not find the DosFS2 source. Where can i find it? It is an update to your installation. You can request it from your sales representative. Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Tamper Resistance Techniques Date: 01 Mar 2001 09:56:48 GMT From: neutekniqx@aol.com (NeuTekniqx) Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20010301045648.20451.00000203@ng-ce1.aol.com> Does anyone know of any good books, papers, or web sites about software-based tamper resistance techniques. (Yes I know software-based tamper resistance is not 100% secure.) Please e-mail me your reply if you could. Thank you --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: VxWorks and MIPS Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 11:21:10 +0000 From: Owain Phillips Organization: Siemens Inc. Message-ID: <3A9E30A6.BD241AF8@siemenscomms.co.uk> References: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------B0684AD929343B34F5398855 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jaz wrote: > I am new to MIPS processors, I will be working with a broadcom 3350 MIPS > processor. Windriver has no BSP for this chip, is there another BSP that > would be a good starting point for doing BSP development with this chip? > > jazz Try contacting broadcom. I think the idts134 is there basis for their BSPs. I must also generate a BSP for a broadcom processor. Stay in touch....it may be useful..... regards, Owain - --------------B0684AD929343B34F5398855 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="owain.phillips.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Owain Phillips Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="owain.phillips.vcf" begin:vcard n:Phillips;Owain tel;fax:+44 115 943 4969 tel;work:+44 115 943 2167 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.siemenscomms.co.uk org:Siemens Comunications Ltd version:2.1 email;internet:owain.phillips@siemenscomms.co.uk title:Software Engineer adr;quoted-printable:;;Technology Drive=0D=0ABeeston;Nottingham;;NG9 1LA;United Kingdom fn:Owain Phillips end:vcard - --------------B0684AD929343B34F5398855-- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: netTask run put of stackmemory Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:11:25 +0100 From: "Thomas Sandscheiper" Organization: CompuServe Interactive Services Message-ID: <97le9f$9jg$1@sshuraaa-i-1.production.compuserve.com> References: <97j96v$amh$1@sshuraac-i-1.production.compuserve.com> <97jbqo$h0m$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Hello Nitin, it works, thanks. thomas "nitin kumar" wrote in message news:97jbqo$h0m$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com... > Hi, > The netTask Params are set in netwrs/netLib.c. The stack size is the global > variable > netTaskStackSize. You can extern this var in your BSP and set it to greater > than > 10000 before calling netLibInit. > Nitin > Thomas Sandscheiper wrote in message > news:97j96v$amh$1@sshuraac-i-1.production.compuserve.com... > > Hello List, > > > > i have a problem with PPP and my netTask. > > The netTask gets a Stack-overflow where i dial in via PPP. > > Is it possible to extend stackspace for this task? > > > > thanks > > thomas > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Problem with Tornado II debugger Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 13:33:48 GMT From: daune@iba.be (Jean-François Daune) Organization: KPNQwest customer news service Message-ID: <3a9e4f48.1507477@news.belgium.eu.net> Hi all, here is information about my environment: VxWorks 5.4 Tornado II PEP board (CPU MC68060) I have a problem with the debugger. I set a breakpoint at one line of code (declaration of an object). When I asked a "step into", I immediately get the following popup error: Unable to disassemble at address 0x24 At the same time, my WindShell reports: Break at 0x01094678: testFunction(void) + 0x24 Task: 0x3f5edcc (Test Task) Break at 0x00088162: ___builtin_new Task: 0x3f5edcc (Test Task) Break at 0x01094682: testFunction(void) + 0x2e Task: 0x3f5edcc (Test Task) Break at 0x00000000: 0 Task: 0x3f5edcc (Test Task) Exception number 4: Task: 0x3f5edcc (Test Task) Illegal Instruction Status Register : 0x3000 Illegal Instruction Program Counter: 0x000000 Exception number 4: Task: 0x3f5edcc (Test Task) Illegal Instruction Status Register : 0x3000 If I try to delete the concerned task, I also get an error: - -> td "Test Task" Cannot kill task 0x3f5e9b4 which is currently safe from deletion value = -1 = 0xffffffff Does anyone have a clue ?? FYI, I used ld68k -X -r to produce the object... Thanks & Regards, Jean-François Daune --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: FTP-Server Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:38:23 +0100 From: "Bertram Tenner" Organization: Customer of UUNET Deutschland GmbH Message-ID: <3a9e511d$0$3714$4dbef881@businessnews.de.uu.net> Hi vxWorkers, I included the FTP server for vxWorks and I can connect to it from an FTP client on another machine. On the machine, running vxWorks, is a DOS-Filesystem. However, when I try to list a directory, I get an error message. As the initial directory the server uses the hostname of the boot parameters ! How can I get access to my c: and d: disks on the vxWorks machine ? Thanks in advance Bertram --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Debugging with MMU Enabled Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:20:32 -0000 From: "Kelvin Lawson" Message-ID: <97llr1$pqjg4$2@ID-56276.news.dfncis.de> References: <973b0g$ng5gc$1@ID-56276.news.dfncis.de> <975h4f$n9m5j$1@ID-56276.news.dfncis.de> For any others that may come across this problem, it looks like it was a bug in vCLICK. I upgraded to version 7.7a, and I can now debug with the caches on. Cheers for all the responses, Kelvin. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Task Hook Switch Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:20:33 GMT From: Lee DeRaud Organization: None to speak of Message-ID: <8fms9tsih4ppd3pas0f3icfhqafpumlf7q@4ax.com> References: Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (Boeing NNTP News Access) On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 00:02:03 -0600, "Adam Cabler" wrote: >I'm trying to execute a printf in a task hook switch routine. Has anyone >had problems with this before? When I call the code - the shell loses >control and the target server backplane crashes. Is it just me? No, it's not just you: *anybody* who does what you describe will get the same symptoms. The restrictions on task switch hook routines are similar to those for interrupt service routines. RTFM. Lee --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Is this really too hard to be impossible? Winsh/Target STDIN Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:50:01 -0600 From: "M. Kotiaho" Organization: Lockheed Martin Corporation Message-ID: <97lr36$rmp5@cui1.lmms.lmco.com> References: "Gang Wang" wrote in message news:lQen6.70$K11.3291@newsfeed.avtel.net... > Hi, > Here is the problem I have been trying to solve for a long time. > > System: Win32 vxWork 5.4 with Tornado IDE > Target: hooked up with typical ethernet + serial at COM1. > Problem: > I want to create a an interactive program on running on the target which > looks like a shell but it runs its own commands. It would be started in a > Winsh windows and goes like this where the lines started with status are > output from the target system. > > >MyShellTask() > % connect http://www.windriver.com > status: connected > % set data [ getData http://www.windriver.com ] > status: done > ... > > The problem is that I could not get the typed characters echoed back as I am > typing in. I have been playing around with the ioctl function and different > approach with read(). None of them work. I could only get thing appear in > the winsh window after I hit return key. > Voila! Things only appear in the *WindSh window* after you hit return. WindSh runs on your *host* system. I suspect that your characters will be buffered on your host until you hit return, at which point the whole line gets sent to your target. Try running your I/O through the console rather than the WindSh window. HTH, Markku --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: network initialization Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:50:35 +0100 From: f.pertin@staubli.com Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <97lsjm$au2$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hello VXWORKS and TORNADO guru, I have a very simple question, when I boot my target over the network, the network interface is correctly initilaised. when I boot my target from a local hard drive I do not have the network. Does any body knows which function to call to initialize the network when booting from loacl hard drive ?????? Thanks in advance Francois --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: network initialization Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:02:03 -0500 From: "Tom Dropka" Organization: SNET Internet Message-ID: References: <97lsjm$au2$1@overload.lbl.gov> Refer to p. 204 of the "VxWorks 5.4 Programmer's Guide." You need to add the network device name to the "other" field in the boot parameters. Look in the function usrNetInit() to see how it's done (search for the string "booting from disk" in /target/src/config/usrNetworks.c). wrote in message news:97lsjm$au2$1@overload.lbl.gov... > Hello VXWORKS and TORNADO guru, > > I have a very simple question, > when I boot my target over the network, the network interface is correctly > initilaised. > when I boot my target from a local hard drive I do not have the network. > Does any body knows which function to call to initialize the network when > booting from loacl hard drive ?????? > > Thanks in advance > > Francois > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Tamper Resistance Techniques Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:57:44 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <20010301045648.20451.00000203@ng-ce1.aol.com> NeuTekniqx wrote in message <20010301045648.20451.00000203@ng-ce1.aol.com>... >Does anyone know of any good books, papers, or web sites about software-based >tamper resistance techniques. (Yes I know software-based tamper resistance is >not 100% secure.) Did you mean specifically related to the VxWorks OS, or are you just too completely AOL to realise that you can find out more about computer security in a computer security newsgroup than in some completely irrelevant newsgroup? DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: 162 Petra problem Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:03:22 -0600 From: "Dill, RL Ryan (4354)" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <97m3km$eqk$1@overload.lbl.gov> I have a question for any Vxworks and MVME162P2 (Petra board) users. We are using a MVME162P-244LE board to replace an older 162 board in a system using several different VME boards all running Vxworks. Has anybody had any problems with this new 162 board running with Vxworks 5.3.1? Specifically with VME accesses to it. What we are seeing is that the new board is causing VME bus errors in certain accesses to A24 VME space. However, not all accesses to the VME A24 space cause the bus errors. Most of the accesses are alright. The new board is set up exactly the same as the older board as far as I can tell, yet the old board doesn't cause these bus errors. I've tried to determine what could be different between the two boards to cause this problem, but without much luck. Thanks in advance. Ryan --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: reloc overflow Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:31:20 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <97m490$9fo$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> When I built my client, I got an error message : ldarm: ../dist/tmp/image.o: .text: reloc overflow: 0x10000 > 0xffff ../dist/tmp/image.o: final close failed: File truncated I have to #if 0 some of my code to make the compilation go on. Is there any other solutions? Thanks Freeman --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: strange problem Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:04:49 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <97m67p$9ut$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> I got stack traces like this: 0x0026b3ec _buf_pool_find 0x0026b798 _osp_Timeout 0x9921a8a0 _rc_call_dump 0x0021afb8 _rc_call_dump 0x9921c060 _rc_call_release 0x000669b4 _vxTaskEntry I'm totally confused : is it possible for one function has two values in the symbol table? Please be noted of _rc_call_dump Anybody gives me a hint? Thanks Freeman --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks,comp.realtime Subject: ring buffers Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 14:42:44 -0500 From: viv Organization: Lucent Technologies, Columbus, Ohio Message-ID: <3A9EA634.D30E7629@lucent.com> Does the VxWorks ring buffer facility have a way to just peek at the message head(i.e. read some contents of it) and then decide whether to read it or not? Thanx. viv --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Is this really too hard to be impossible? Winsh/Target STDIN Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:25:37 -0500 From: "Jason Jiang" Organization: Verio Message-ID: References: I am sure the problem is because of task priorities. When you type 'i' to list all the tasks running on the target, you will find the tShell is of priority 1. While your shell is lower than it. So whenever you type anything from console, it is grabbed by tShell, instead of yours. So you just low down the priority of tShell. then all set. "Gang Wang" wrote in message news:lQen6.70$K11.3291@newsfeed.avtel.net... > Hi, > Here is the problem I have been trying to solve for a long time. > > System: Win32 vxWork 5.4 with Tornado IDE > Target: hooked up with typical ethernet + serial at COM1. > Problem: > I want to create a an interactive program on running on the target which > looks like a shell but it runs its own commands. It would be started in a > Winsh windows and goes like this where the lines started with status are > output from the target system. > > >MyShellTask() > % connect http://www.windriver.com > status: connected > % set data [ getData http://www.windriver.com ] > status: done > ... > > The problem is that I could not get the typed characters echoed back as I am > typing in. I have been playing around with the ioctl function and different > approach with read(). None of them work. I could only get thing appear in > the winsh window after I hit return key. > > Here is the one of the try I did to give you some idea of what I am trying > to do: > > /* Enter raw mode and diable feedback*/ > ioctl(0, FIOSETOPTIONS, OPT_ECHO); > ioctl(1, FIOSETOPTIONS, ~OPT_LINE); > while (1) > { > while(1){ > if ( n>=256) { n=0; break; } > if(read(0, &data[n], 1)==-1) break; > if(data[n]=='\b') > { > printf("\b \b"); //to erase the previous character > } > if(data[n]=='\n') { data[n]='\0'; break ;} > fprintf(stdout, "%c", data[n]); > fflush(stdout); > n++; > } > if ( data[0] == 'q' ) > break; > else > printf("I get something\n"); > } > > > Any help from your guys? > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:02 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97mcnl$rbg$8@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <979nl7$n62$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97df5c$r8r$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc538.33eeb@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i46t$htj$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97joh0$fsv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kohg$3si$4@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:06:27 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on > >> >> >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had > >> >> >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a > >> >> >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the > >> >> >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a > >> >> >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers > >> >> >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have > >> >> >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and > >> >> >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. > >> >> > > >> >> >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured > >> >> >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few > >> >> >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. > >> >> > > >> >> Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try > >> >> anything to succeed, by now. > >> > > >> >Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would > >> >be surprised if they don't make the final 8. > >> > > >> It is about time they did, but they won't win the Grand Final! > > > >I doubt they would, but a lot of people would love it if they did. > >By beating an interstate team or the bombers. > > > True, but all those people are wrong! Why so? > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:44 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97mcod$rbg$9@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183k932qf3v@4ax.com> <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <7fbp9tgfdrqse3o8r737jradhe54nmtbqn@4ax.com> <97joif$fsv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97koiq$3si$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr8j$jv$6@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:52:54 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't > >> >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! > >> >> > > >> >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. > >> >> > > >> >> Are there? > >> > > >> >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. > >> > > >> Then there are those who don't like me. > > > >Who wouldn't lik you? > > > The same people who don't like you, I guess. I.e. fuckkkheads! Argh. Yes, those pesky fuckheads. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:58:55 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97mcql$3jf$1@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97df7a$r8r$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <31il9tg068mjd3uj29fjchq183k932qf3v@4ax.com> <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jojf$fsv$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <4kgr9tchhur5fjbaun5jvfmdlf38uqfpkg@4ax.com> <97kojt$3si$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr9u$jv$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f1s9tceb1gdtsvfqk9tato69t5e Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? > >> >> > > >> >> >No, like me, like I am. > >> >> > > >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! > >> > > >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. > >> > > >> Fortunately you won't be able to. > > > >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that > >not everyone is as luck as me. > > > I suggest counseling! No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your not happy. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:59:51 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97mcsj$3jf$2@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97df8i$r8r$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <52il9tggs3bi81m1bbi47uk2oo9src91bc@4ax.com> <3a9bc5ca.c97f4@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i489$htj$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jolp$fsv$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kom5$3si$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krb3$jv$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <8g1s9t4hdm4pkppvupoj9b85f3cic Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:54:13 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:08:56 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:02:34 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> worst! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >years he might start to learn. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> on the floor. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >get to either a sick, toilet or outside. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and quiet a bit more in the sink. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I think it is an alcohol tolerance thing, or just practice. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I don't think so. I tend to think it is maturity. I know that Rob can drink a > >> >> >> >> >> >> >little bit more than me on a big night, I just know when to stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Drinking through to alcohol poisoning is usually a mistake. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Or a sign of stupidity! Wow, that means Rob. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> He will learn, to stop when the room spins, and go to bed before he > >> >> >> >> >> has to throw up to stay alive. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Yes he will, but it will take quite awhile. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Eventually he will recall the hang-overs, while he is still drinking. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Yeah, that's bad. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Maybe but it tends to slow the enthusiasm a bit, and one avoids the > >> >> >> spew in the bed syndrome. > >> >> > > >> >> >It's all a matter of balance. If you balance your drinking correctly, when > >> >> >you later try to walk you will be able to balance. > >> >> > > >> >> A fine philosophy to which I also subscribe. > >> > > >> >But of course, I don't always follow it. But even if you cross the > >> >balance line, or fall off the balance beam as I like to say, it's still > >> >a lot of fun waking that line/beam..... > >> > >> No-one is perfect, one simply tries. > > > >Yes, the fun is in the trying. > > > It is, however, important to try. This is what Rob fails to perceive > in his youthful exuberance! Then he will learn of this, like most people do, with hindsight. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:01:24 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97mcvm$3jf$3@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <3a9bc67a.b4ff2@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i49l$htj$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jonr$fsv$13@intimidator.databasix.com> <3mgr9tg7kr9v69l91pgbeaev72tfdtd24n@4ax.com> <97kop6$3si$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krda$jv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:55:22 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:10:33 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:03:37 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >> >> >> >>clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to > >> >> >> >> >> live > >> >> >> >> >> >>with. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >> >> >> >>find. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >> >> >> >>actually > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup > >> >> >> >> >> session, > >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after > >> >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >> >> >> >>hours > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >> >> >> >>pissed > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober > >> >> >> >> >> up > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so > >> >> >> >> >> that > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >> >> >> >>vodka > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >>set > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of > >> >> >> >> >> those > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should > >> >> >> >> >> do > >> >> >> >> >> >>the > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell > >> >> >> >> >> asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >> >> >> >>could see > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general > >> >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's > >> >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on > >> >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to > >> >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? > >> >> > > >> >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. > >> >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. > >> >> > > >> >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked > >> >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a > >> >> bottle. > >> > > >> >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond > >> >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of > >> >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. > >> >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it > >> >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! > >> > > >> Same goes for Scotch! > > > >Yep, it used to be Australian scotch was 37% and Scotch > >Scotch was 40%. Easy to spot the difference, now you have > >to do some research if you want to avoid the C&N. > > > Actually, for me, it is the alcohol content that matters to me! Oh yeah, but back then the C&N was the weaker stuff. So it was a real quandry, cheaper scotch, but less % v's less cheaper scotch, but with higher %.... > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:02:26 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <9780eg$6li$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <849g9ts8enim6u5gpk4rv68sevk54kmsrp@4ax.com> <3a9bc296.268eb@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4ba$htj$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <0nbp9tg0ep20cd2r29k1i3jskpnh4kfp8d@4ax.com> <97jopv$fsv$14@intimidator.databasix.com> <0pgr9tgfe46oob4uibd2gu1bomiqshucoi@4ax.com> <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <8k1s9t4bke6qipkh8d2hsqjniie Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:56:06 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:11:22 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:04:46 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for > >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! > >> >> > > >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. > >> >> > > >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. > >> > > >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. > >> > > >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! > > > >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried > >and hopefully never will. > > > It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am sorry > for bringing it up! Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it will stop me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: MIME Cookies Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:23:43 -0500 From: Dave Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: <3A9D7A6F.29B574E2@hotmail.com> I'm using Wind Web Server for VxWorks 5.4 and I'm having trouble getting the Max-age parameter to work with Cookies. The web browser seems to ignore Max-age even when I set it to zero. Has anyone else had a problem like this or had experience using cookies with Wind Web Server? It would be helpful if I could extract the Cookie MIME header and then look at it, but I get an empty string when I use header retrieval function. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Java or TCL with vxworks Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:34:43 -0500 From: "C. Ritchie" Organization: University of Waterloo Message-ID: Hi anybody here use either Java or TCL to automatically start up n simulators, windshells, and target servers? C.Ritchie --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks,comp.realtime Subject: Re: ring buffers Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 22:40:30 GMT From: Craig Vanderborgh Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <3A9ECFDE.D6137B1F@voxware.com> References: <3A9EA634.D30E7629@lucent.com> Hi: I just checked the VxWorks dox and there is no routine in "rngLib" that seems to do what you ask. I would suggest coding a front-end for your ring buffer read that buffers enough of the data for you to look at it. Also, the VxWorks ring buffer is not really for sending messages, although you *can* use it to do that. It is a "flat" character buffer, kind of like the buffer provided beneath the stdio "f*" routines in C. I just glanced at the other synchronization objects in VxWorks. They really don't seem to do the "peek" thing either. You might just be better off writing something from scratch that's appropriate for what you're trying to do. regards, craig vanderborgh voxware incorporated viv wrote: > > Does the VxWorks ring buffer facility have a way to just peek at the > message head(i.e. read some contents of it) and then decide whether to > read it or not? > > Thanx. > viv --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Logging Stuff.. Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 22:44:01 GMT From: Craig Vanderborgh Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <3A9ED0B1.8CA9D1D5@voxware.com> Hi All: I'm interested in adding some logging facilities to our application, and I'm trying to figure out the best way to deal with this problem: I'd like to be able to log output from things like memShow(), i(), etc. However, the output from these VxWorks routines all goes to stdout. What is the best way to get this kind of stuff into memory so that it could be possibly formatted and uploaded to a server? Any ideas? regards, craig vanderborgh voxware incorporated --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:48:34 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <03kt9t0cfhu9k6lc8n40if6tfob7vu43st@4ax.com> References: <97df5c$r8r$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc538.33eeb@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i46t$htj$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97joh0$fsv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kohg$3si$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcnl$rbg$8@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:02 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:06:27 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on >> >> >> >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had >> >> >> >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a >> >> >> >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the >> >> >> >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a >> >> >> >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers >> >> >> >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have >> >> >> >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and >> >> >> >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured >> >> >> >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few >> >> >> >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try >> >> >> anything to succeed, by now. >> >> > >> >> >Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would >> >> >be surprised if they don't make the final 8. >> >> > >> >> It is about time they did, but they won't win the Grand Final! >> > >> >I doubt they would, but a lot of people would love it if they did. >> >By beating an interstate team or the bombers. >> > >> True, but all those people are wrong! > >Why so? > Because if the Bombers can't win an Interstate team is the next best, preferably the Swans! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:48:41 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <7fbp9tgfdrqse3o8r737jradhe54nmtbqn@4ax.com> <97joif$fsv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97koiq$3si$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr8j$jv$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcod$rbg$9@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:44 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:52:54 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't >> >> >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Are there? >> >> > >> >> >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. >> >> > >> >> Then there are those who don't like me. >> > >> >Who wouldn't lik you? >> > >> The same people who don't like you, I guess. I.e. fuckkkheads! > >Argh. Yes, those pesky fuckheads. > A lot of them reside in alt.flame - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:48:46 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jojf$fsv$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <4kgr9tchhur5fjbaun5jvfmdlf38uqfpkg@4ax.com> <97kojt$3si$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr9u$jv$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f1s9tceb1gdtsvfqk9tato69t5e2ibpl2@4ax.com> <97mcql$3jf$1@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:58:55 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. >> >> >> > >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! >> >> > >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. >> >> > >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. >> > >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that >> >not everyone is as luck as me. >> > >> I suggest counseling! > >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your >not happy. > Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:48:49 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <3a9bc5ca.c97f4@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i489$htj$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jolp$fsv$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kom5$3si$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krb3$jv$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <8g1s9t4hdm4pkppvupoj9b85f3cic59obn@4ax.com> <97mcsj$3jf$2@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:59:51 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:54:13 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:08:56 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:02:34 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> worst! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >years he might start to learn. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> on the floor. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >get to either a sick, toilet or outside. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and quiet a bit more in the sink. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I think it is an alcohol tolerance thing, or just practice. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I don't think so. I tend to think it is maturity. I know that Rob can drink a >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >little bit more than me on a big night, I just know when to stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Drinking through to alcohol poisoning is usually a mistake. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Or a sign of stupidity! Wow, that means Rob. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> He will learn, to stop when the room spins, and go to bed before he >> >> >> >> >> >> has to throw up to stay alive. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Yes he will, but it will take quite awhile. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Eventually he will recall the hang-overs, while he is still drinking. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Yeah, that's bad. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Maybe but it tends to slow the enthusiasm a bit, and one avoids the >> >> >> >> spew in the bed syndrome. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >It's all a matter of balance. If you balance your drinking correctly, when >> >> >> >you later try to walk you will be able to balance. >> >> >> > >> >> >> A fine philosophy to which I also subscribe. >> >> > >> >> >But of course, I don't always follow it. But even if you cross the >> >> >balance line, or fall off the balance beam as I like to say, it's still >> >> >a lot of fun waking that line/beam..... >> >> >> >> No-one is perfect, one simply tries. >> > >> >Yes, the fun is in the trying. >> > >> It is, however, important to try. This is what Rob fails to perceive >> in his youthful exuberance! > >Then he will learn of this, like most people do, with hindsight. > Eventually they apply what they learn. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:48:52 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <3a9bc67a.b4ff2@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i49l$htj$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jonr$fsv$13@intimidator.databasix.com> <3mgr9tg7kr9v69l91pgbeaev72tfdtd24n@4ax.com> <97kop6$3si$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krda$jv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcvm$3jf$3@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:01:24 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:55:22 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:10:33 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:03:37 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> >> >> >> >>clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to >> >> >> >> >> >> live >> >> >> >> >> >> >>with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> >> >> >> >>find. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> >> >> >> >>actually >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup >> >> >> >> >> >> session, >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after >> >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> >> >> >> >>hours >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> >> >> >> >>pissed >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober >> >> >> >> >> >> up >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so >> >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> >> >> >> >>vodka >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >>set >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of >> >> >> >> >> >> those >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should >> >> >> >> >> >> do >> >> >> >> >> >> >>the >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell >> >> >> >> >> >> asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> >> >> >> >>could see >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general >> >> >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's >> >> >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on >> >> >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to >> >> >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. >> >> >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. >> >> >> > >> >> >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked >> >> >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a >> >> >> bottle. >> >> > >> >> >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond >> >> >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of >> >> >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. >> >> >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it >> >> >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! >> >> > >> >> Same goes for Scotch! >> > >> >Yep, it used to be Australian scotch was 37% and Scotch >> >Scotch was 40%. Easy to spot the difference, now you have >> >to do some research if you want to avoid the C&N. >> > >> Actually, for me, it is the alcohol content that matters to me! > >Oh yeah, but back then the C&N was the weaker stuff. So it >was a real quandry, cheaper scotch, but less % v's less cheaper >scotch, but with higher %.... > The false economy thing. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:48:55 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <3a9bc296.268eb@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4ba$htj$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <0nbp9tg0ep20cd2r29k1i3jskpnh4kfp8d@4ax.com> <97jopv$fsv$14@intimidator.databasix.com> <0pgr9tgfe46oob4uibd2gu1bomiqshucoi@4ax.com> <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <8k1s9t4bke6qipkh8d2hsqjniie5do0ns1@4ax.com> <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:02:26 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:56:06 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:11:22 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:04:46 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. >> >> > >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. >> >> > >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! >> > >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried >> >and hopefully never will. >> > >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am sorry >> for bringing it up! > >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it will stop >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. > You will find out the hard way if you forget. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Logging Stuff.. Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:02:27 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983488019.760284@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3A9ED0B1.8CA9D1D5@voxware.com> Craig, I would redirect the standard output to some device driver you can easily write yourself. You can redirect the standard output for an individual task or - if you think this is necessary - for the whole system. you could also use a ramdrive and create a file there, if you do not want to write that driver. upload would be easier in this case if you use FTP for that hth werner Craig Vanderborgh wrote in message news:3A9ED0B1.8CA9D1D5@voxware.com... > Hi All: > > I'm interested in adding some logging facilities to our application, > and I'm trying to figure out the best way to deal with this problem: > > I'd like to be able to log output from things like memShow(), i(), > etc. However, the output from these VxWorks routines all goes to > stdout. What is the best way to get this kind of stuff into memory > so that it could be possibly formatted and uploaded to a server? > > Any ideas? > > regards, > craig vanderborgh > voxware incorporated --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: discard route Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:31:29 -0500 From: "Yu Ju" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <97moqm$ed1$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Hi, Does vxworks support discard route? If so, how can I add a discard route. Thanks, Yu --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: How to build and download tens of test applications into the VxWorks target Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:52:10 -0800 From: "William Cheung" Organization: Intel Corporation Message-ID: <97mubd$pht@news.or.intel.com> To all, I am porting a network library and the associated test programs to the VxWorks platform. The test programs were developed on unix environments and all of them have the main() functions. Is there a way to automate the process of downloading each test program and launch them? Or the executables can be dynamically loaded by the VxWorks kernel? Also, can Tornado generate makefile so I can take it as a reference makefile to build all of my test applications. Regards, William --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:37:35 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: Pacific Internet (Australia) Message-ID: <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> References: <3a9bc296.268eb@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4ba$htj$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <0nbp9tg0ep20cd2r29k1i3jskpnh4kfp8d@4ax.com> <97jopv$fsv$14@intimidator.databasix.com> <0pgr9tgfe46oob4uibd2gu1bomiqshucoi@4ax.com> <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <8k1s9t4bke6qipkh8d2hsqjniie5do0ns1@4ax.com> <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:02:26 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:56:06 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:11:22 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:04:46 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for > >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. > >> >> > > >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. > >> >> > > >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! > >> > > >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried > >> >and hopefully never will. > >> > > >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am sorry > >> for bringing it up! > > > >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it will stop > >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. > > > You will find out the hard way if you forget. I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed anyway. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:38:37 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: Pacific Internet (Australia) Message-ID: <3a9f158c.b5ab8@newton.pacific.net.au> References: <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4do$htj$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <3obp9t4llods18sb05qrueng9t0qgifh96@4ax.com> <97jos1$fsv$15@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kotb$3si$10@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:12:42 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:05:54 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then > >> >> >> >> >smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes > >> >> >> >> >me fall > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training > >> >> >> >> >to be able to > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without > >> >> >> >> >pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in > >> >> >> >> >and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I > >> >> >> >> >still find it > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A > >> >> >> >> >couple of > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or > >> >> >> >> >just > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if > >> >> >> >> >you > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and > >> >> >> >> >will > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >>>> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >> >> >> >> >>>better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > I'll help ya with that spare one! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> No problem Dave! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >You leave spare drinks lying around? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> No that was the one I got for you, that you couldn't have because you > >> >> >> were driving. > >> >> > > >> >> >Oh... Woo. Thanks for clearing that up. I was nearly about to drop all > >> >> >communications with you. It was nice of you to give it to DaveK, though > >> >> >personally I would have drank it myself if I was you. > >> >> > > >> >> So would I, but he promised the next shout, and we kept drinking, and > >> >> I eventually woke up in a dumpster, but hey it was a great night! > >> > > >> >It has to have been a good night if you woke up in a dumpster. Did you > >> >end up with a traffic cone? > >> > > >> It was a stop sign this time, the whole thing sign, pole and lump of > >> concrete. I wish I could remember how that happened! > > > >Check your house for a pick.... Or a nieghbourhood car for panel damage. > > > I guess it must have been Dave K's car! What? He won't post in our threads, but he's off getting pissed with you, drink driving and shit... > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:46:32 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: Pacific Internet (Australia) Message-ID: <3a9f1767.f400e@newton.pacific.net.au> References: <97df5c$r8r$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc538.33eeb@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i46t$htj$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97joh0$fsv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kohg$3si$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcnl$rbg$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <03kt9t0cfhu9k6lc8n40if6tfob7v Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:02 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:06:27 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on > >> >> >> >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had > >> >> >> >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a > >> >> >> >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the > >> >> >> >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a > >> >> >> >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers > >> >> >> >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have > >> >> >> >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and > >> >> >> >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured > >> >> >> >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few > >> >> >> >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try > >> >> >> anything to succeed, by now. > >> >> > > >> >> >Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would > >> >> >be surprised if they don't make the final 8. > >> >> > > >> >> It is about time they did, but they won't win the Grand Final! > >> > > >> >I doubt they would, but a lot of people would love it if they did. > >> >By beating an interstate team or the bombers. > >> > > >> True, but all those people are wrong! > > > >Why so? > > > Because if the Bombers can't win an Interstate team is the next best, > preferably the Swans! NO That is just plain wrong. And for your own safety, don't ever say that in a Victorian Pub. Intersate teams are just fine, as long as they don't win the grand final...... And definately not the Swans. When the were in the Grand Final, all of Sydney were so up themselve, not cause the gave a shit about the match, just cause they had a chance to beat Victoria in their own game, and didn't they shut the fuck up after the Swans lost. And when Victoria beat them at their own game and the Storm won... HAHAHA. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:47:17 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: Pacific Internet (Australia) Message-ID: <3a9f1794.cdebf@newton.pacific.net.au> References: <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <7fbp9tgfdrqse3o8r737jradhe54nmtbqn@4ax.com> <97joif$fsv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97koiq$3si$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr8j$jv$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcod$rbg$9@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:44 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:52:54 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't > >> >> >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Are there? > >> >> > > >> >> >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. > >> >> > > >> >> Then there are those who don't like me. > >> > > >> >Who wouldn't lik you? > >> > > >> The same people who don't like you, I guess. I.e. fuckkkheads! > > > >Argh. Yes, those pesky fuckheads. > > > A lot of them reside in alt.flame Yeah, well then thankfully I don't see them that often. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:48:08 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: Pacific Internet (Australia) Message-ID: <3a9f17c7.d0ac6@newton.pacific.net.au> References: <3a9bc590.81ce3@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jojf$fsv$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <4kgr9tchhur5fjbaun5jvfmdlf38uqfpkg@4ax.com> <97kojt$3si$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr9u$jv$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f1s9tceb1gdtsvfqk9tato69t5e2ibpl2@4ax.com> <97mcql$3jf$1@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:58:55 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! > >> >> > > >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. > >> >> > > >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. > >> > > >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that > >> >not everyone is as luck as me. > >> > > >> I suggest counseling! > > > >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle > >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your > >not happy. > > > Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? Yes, cures all your ills. Come one, come all. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:48:45 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: Pacific Internet (Australia) Message-ID: <3a9f17ec.f41b5@newton.pacific.net.au> References: <3a9bc5ca.c97f4@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i489$htj$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jolp$fsv$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kom5$3si$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krb3$jv$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <8g1s9t4hdm4pkppvupoj9b85f3cic59obn@4ax.com> <97mcsj$3jf$2@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:59:51 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:54:13 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:08:56 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:02:34 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> worst! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >years he might start to learn. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> on the floor. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >get to either a sick, toilet or outside. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and quiet a bit more in the sink. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I think it is an alcohol tolerance thing, or just practice. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I don't think so. I tend to think it is maturity. I know that Rob can drink a > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >little bit more than me on a big night, I just know when to stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Drinking through to alcohol poisoning is usually a mistake. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Or a sign of stupidity! Wow, that means Rob. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> He will learn, to stop when the room spins, and go to bed before he > >> >> >> >> >> >> has to throw up to stay alive. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Yes he will, but it will take quite awhile. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Eventually he will recall the hang-overs, while he is still drinking. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Yeah, that's bad. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Maybe but it tends to slow the enthusiasm a bit, and one avoids the > >> >> >> >> spew in the bed syndrome. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >It's all a matter of balance. If you balance your drinking correctly, when > >> >> >> >you later try to walk you will be able to balance. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> A fine philosophy to which I also subscribe. > >> >> > > >> >> >But of course, I don't always follow it. But even if you cross the > >> >> >balance line, or fall off the balance beam as I like to say, it's still > >> >> >a lot of fun waking that line/beam..... > >> >> > >> >> No-one is perfect, one simply tries. > >> > > >> >Yes, the fun is in the trying. > >> > > >> It is, however, important to try. This is what Rob fails to perceive > >> in his youthful exuberance! > > > >Then he will learn of this, like most people do, with hindsight. > > > Eventually they apply what they learn. Yes, but by then, the innocent luster of youth is already behind them. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:50:10 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: Pacific Internet (Australia) Message-ID: <3a9f1842.8df59@newton.pacific.net.au> References: <3a9bc67a.b4ff2@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i49l$htj$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jonr$fsv$13@intimidator.databasix.com> <3mgr9tg7kr9v69l91pgbeaev72tfdtd24n@4ax.com> <97kop6$3si$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krda$jv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcvm$3jf$3@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:01:24 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:55:22 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:10:33 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:03:37 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to > >> >> >> >> >> >> live > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>with. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>find. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>actually > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup > >> >> >> >> >> >> session, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after > >> >> >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>hours > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>pissed > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober > >> >> >> >> >> >> up > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so > >> >> >> >> >> >> that > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>vodka > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>set > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of > >> >> >> >> >> >> those > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should > >> >> >> >> >> >> do > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>the > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell > >> >> >> >> >> >> asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>could see > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general > >> >> >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's > >> >> >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on > >> >> >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to > >> >> >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. > >> >> >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked > >> >> >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a > >> >> >> bottle. > >> >> > > >> >> >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond > >> >> >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of > >> >> >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. > >> >> >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it > >> >> >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! > >> >> > > >> >> Same goes for Scotch! > >> > > >> >Yep, it used to be Australian scotch was 37% and Scotch > >> >Scotch was 40%. Easy to spot the difference, now you have > >> >to do some research if you want to avoid the C&N. > >> > > >> Actually, for me, it is the alcohol content that matters to me! > > > >Oh yeah, but back then the C&N was the weaker stuff. So it > >was a real quandry, cheaper scotch, but less % v's less cheaper > >scotch, but with higher %.... > > > The false economy thing. But thankfully, the government, made the one correct decision in my entire life and rasied all scotch to 40%.... Ya. Now they just need to do it with the rest of the spirit family to make it all even. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Task Hook Switch Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 05:10:33 GMT From: pkockritz@home.com (Pete Kockritz) Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: References: <8fms9tsih4ppd3pas0f3icfhqafpumlf7q@4ax.com> In article <8fms9tsih4ppd3pas0f3icfhqafpumlf7q@4ax.com>, Lee DeRaud wrote: > On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 00:02:03 -0600, "Adam Cabler" > wrote: > > >I'm trying to execute a printf in a task hook switch routine. Has anyone > >had problems with this before? When I call the code - the shell loses > >control and the target server backplane crashes. Is it just me? > > No, it's not just you: *anybody* who does what you describe will get > the same symptoms. The restrictions on task switch hook routines are > similar to those for interrupt service routines. RTFM. > > Lee Use logMsg instead of printf. Regards, Pete - -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Kockritz mailto:pkockritz@home.com | | This space for rent. | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 16:12:52 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <3uau9to7kvja1nvf8aq8bt0j4ccgm9g7gb@4ax.com> References: <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <7fbp9tgfdrqse3o8r737jradhe54nmtbqn@4ax.com> <97joif$fsv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97koiq$3si$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr8j$jv$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcod$rbg$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1794.cdebf@newton.pacific.net.au> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:47:17 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:44 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:52:54 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't >> >> >> >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Are there? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Then there are those who don't like me. >> >> > >> >> >Who wouldn't lik you? >> >> > >> >> The same people who don't like you, I guess. I.e. fuckkkheads! >> > >> >Argh. Yes, those pesky fuckheads. >> > >> A lot of them reside in alt.flame > >Yeah, well then thankfully I don't see them that often. > It is better that way! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 16:13:24 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jojf$fsv$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <4kgr9tchhur5fjbaun5jvfmdlf38uqfpkg@4ax.com> <97kojt$3si$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr9u$jv$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f1s9tceb1gdtsvfqk9tato69t5e2ibpl2@4ax.com> <97mcql$3jf$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f17c7.d0ac6@newton.pacific.net.au> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:48:08 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:58:55 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. >> >> > >> >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that >> >> >not everyone is as luck as me. >> >> > >> >> I suggest counseling! >> > >> >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle >> >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your >> >not happy. >> > >> Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? > >Yes, cures all your ills. Come one, come all. > Get your bottle here, roll up roll up! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 16:13:59 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97i489$htj$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jolp$fsv$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kom5$3si$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krb3$jv$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <8g1s9t4hdm4pkppvupoj9b85f3cic59obn@4ax.com> <97mcsj$3jf$2@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f17ec.f41b5@newton.pacific.net.au> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:48:45 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:59:51 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:54:13 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:08:56 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:02:34 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >OH, I got one. Well not about me, but Rob, my band/flat mate got >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >smashed last night and threw up in his bed. I woke up at 12:30 this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >arvo and he was sleeping in the lounge room floor cause he was too >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pissed to clean his mess up. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is sad. At least he didn't shit in the bed, that would be the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> worst! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I reakon it is funny. Not sad at all. Haha, he feels shit for some reason. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Poor bastard. Will he learn from this? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, he's actually done it quiet alot recently. But he's young, in a few >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >years he might start to learn. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That explains it. When you are older you can get it together to spew >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> on the floor. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I must be more mature for my age. I just don't spew. And when I did as >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >a youngstar I always (apart from one unfortunate occasion) managed to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >get to either a sick, toilet or outside. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Once, just to show how good I was I spewed on the way to the sink, but >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I put Ian Healy to shame and caught the offending spew and deposited it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and quiet a bit more in the sink. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I think it is an alcohol tolerance thing, or just practice. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I don't think so. I tend to think it is maturity. I know that Rob can drink a >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >little bit more than me on a big night, I just know when to stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Drinking through to alcohol poisoning is usually a mistake. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Or a sign of stupidity! Wow, that means Rob. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> He will learn, to stop when the room spins, and go to bed before he >> >> >> >> >> >> >> has to throw up to stay alive. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes he will, but it will take quite awhile. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Eventually he will recall the hang-overs, while he is still drinking. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Yeah, that's bad. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Maybe but it tends to slow the enthusiasm a bit, and one avoids the >> >> >> >> >> spew in the bed syndrome. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >It's all a matter of balance. If you balance your drinking correctly, when >> >> >> >> >you later try to walk you will be able to balance. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> A fine philosophy to which I also subscribe. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >But of course, I don't always follow it. But even if you cross the >> >> >> >balance line, or fall off the balance beam as I like to say, it's still >> >> >> >a lot of fun waking that line/beam..... >> >> >> >> >> >> No-one is perfect, one simply tries. >> >> > >> >> >Yes, the fun is in the trying. >> >> > >> >> It is, however, important to try. This is what Rob fails to perceive >> >> in his youthful exuberance! >> > >> >Then he will learn of this, like most people do, with hindsight. >> > >> Eventually they apply what they learn. > >Yes, but by then, the innocent luster of youth is already behind them. > Teh alcohol induced wrinkles will have set in! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 16:16:29 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <14bu9t0u3rt2c4eh0b58h1mpbkemljkpfu@4ax.com> References: <97i49l$htj$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jonr$fsv$13@intimidator.databasix.com> <3mgr9tg7kr9v69l91pgbeaev72tfdtd24n@4ax.com> <97kop6$3si$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krda$jv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcvm$3jf$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1842.8df59@newton.pacific.net.au> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:50:10 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:01:24 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:55:22 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:10:33 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:03:37 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> live >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>find. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>actually >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup >> >> >> >> >> >> >> session, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after >> >> >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>hours >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>pissed >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober >> >> >> >> >> >> >> up >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so >> >> >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>vodka >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>set >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> those >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should >> >> >> >> >> >> >> do >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell >> >> >> >> >> >> >> asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>could see >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general >> >> >> >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's >> >> >> >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on >> >> >> >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to >> >> >> >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. >> >> >> >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked >> >> >> >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a >> >> >> >> bottle. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond >> >> >> >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of >> >> >> >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. >> >> >> >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it >> >> >> >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! >> >> >> > >> >> >> Same goes for Scotch! >> >> > >> >> >Yep, it used to be Australian scotch was 37% and Scotch >> >> >Scotch was 40%. Easy to spot the difference, now you have >> >> >to do some research if you want to avoid the C&N. >> >> > >> >> Actually, for me, it is the alcohol content that matters to me! >> > >> >Oh yeah, but back then the C&N was the weaker stuff. So it >> >was a real quandry, cheaper scotch, but less % v's less cheaper >> >scotch, but with higher %.... >> > >> The false economy thing. > >But thankfully, the government, made the one correct decision in my >entire life and rasied all scotch to 40%.... Ya. Now they just need >to do it with the rest of the spirit family to make it all even. > It is embarrassing in teh bottle shop when you have to check teh alcohol content before you buy!! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 16:17:51 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97i4ba$htj$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <0nbp9tg0ep20cd2r29k1i3jskpnh4kfp8d@4ax.com> <97jopv$fsv$14@intimidator.databasix.com> <0pgr9tgfe46oob4uibd2gu1bomiqshucoi@4ax.com> <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <8k1s9t4bke6qipkh8d2hsqjniie5do0ns1@4ax.com> <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:37:35 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:02:26 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:56:06 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:11:22 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:04:46 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. >> >> >> > >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! >> >> > >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried >> >> >and hopefully never will. >> >> > >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am sorry >> >> for bringing it up! >> > >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it will stop >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. >> > >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. > >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed anyway. > An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 16:18:59 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <48bu9tg9a0akp01fbtm9b1k8fick1sjpto@4ax.com> References: <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4do$htj$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <3obp9t4llods18sb05qrueng9t0qgifh96@4ax.com> <97jos1$fsv$15@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kotb$3si$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f158c.b5ab8@newton.pacific.net.au> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:38:37 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:12:42 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:05:54 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then >> >> >> >> >> >smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes >> >> >> >> >> >me fall >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training >> >> >> >> >> >to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without >> >> >> >> >> >pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in >> >> >> >> >> >and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I >> >> >> >> >> >still find it >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A >> >> >> >> >> >couple of >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or >> >> >> >> >> >just >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if >> >> >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and >> >> >> >> >> >will >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >> >> >> >>>better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > I'll help ya with that spare one! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No problem Dave! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >You leave spare drinks lying around? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> No that was the one I got for you, that you couldn't have because you >> >> >> >> were driving. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Oh... Woo. Thanks for clearing that up. I was nearly about to drop all >> >> >> >communications with you. It was nice of you to give it to DaveK, though >> >> >> >personally I would have drank it myself if I was you. >> >> >> > >> >> >> So would I, but he promised the next shout, and we kept drinking, and >> >> >> I eventually woke up in a dumpster, but hey it was a great night! >> >> > >> >> >It has to have been a good night if you woke up in a dumpster. Did you >> >> >end up with a traffic cone? >> >> > >> >> It was a stop sign this time, the whole thing sign, pole and lump of >> >> concrete. I wish I could remember how that happened! >> > >> >Check your house for a pick.... Or a nieghbourhood car for panel damage. >> > >> I guess it must have been Dave K's car! > >What? He won't post in our threads, but he's off getting pissed with you, >drink driving and shit... > I can't be sure, I just haven't seen a dented panel for miles around! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: CORBA-blocking on vxWorks Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:03:22 +0100 From: Uwe Gerger Organization: Daimler-Benz Aerospace Message-ID: <3A9F6FEA.E898ECAD@vs.dasa.de> Hi, I'm using Highlanders Visibroker3.2.2 on vxWorks and it seems that a corba-thread blocks in one call. Here the tasktrace: 1a5e28 invoke__11VISStubInfoP22CORBA_MarshalOutBufferP19CORBA_ExceptionList+74 : receive_reply__11VISStubInfoP22CORBA_MarshalOutBufferP19CORBA_ExceptionList () 1a5804 receive_reply__11VISStubInfoP22CORBA_MarshalOutBufferP19CORBA_ExceptionLi st+98 : receive_reply__11VISGIOPConnUlUl () 183c68 receive_reply__11VISGIOPConnUlUl+198: _receive_reply__11VISGIOPConnP14VIS ReplyWaiterUl ()183880 _receive_reply__11VISGIOPConnP14VISReplyWaiterUl+84 : receive__11VISGIOPC onnUl () 18422c receive__11VISGIOPConnUl+6c : read__10VISTCPConnPcRUlUl () 18c6f8 read__10VISTCPConnPcRUlUl+10c: read () 2c249c read +10 : iosRead () 2c3938 iosRead +d0 : 30b758 () 30b7dc bsdRecv +1ac: soreceive () 32f24c soreceive +324: sbwait () 3305dc sbwait +2c : ksleep () 331398 ksleep +68 : semTake () 33d87c semTake +140: semBTake () I don't know if it is a corba-problem or a ressource-problem in vxWorks? Has somebody any ideas? Regards Uwe --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Exception handling problem Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 10:12:55 GMT From: daune@iba.be (Jean-François Daune) Organization: KPNQwest customer news service Message-ID: <3a9f6fa4.8437121@news.belgium.eu.net> Environment: Tornado 2 / VxWorks 5.4 Target: PEP MC68060 / VME board Host: win32 Hi all, I have a weird problem in my SW. Let us consider a routine r: void MyClass::r(double X) { SemaphoreHolder(mySem_); try { anotherObject.doSthg(); } catch(...) { failed_ = true; throw; } } mySem is a VXWMSem. SemaphoreHolder constructor takes reference to a VXWSem, and then calls itsSem_.take(WAIT_FOREVER). Its destructor calls itsSem_.give() If I spawn a task whose entry function do MyClass myClass; try { myClass.r(1000); } catch(...) { cout << "Exception caught..." << endl; } the task is deleted when routine r rethrows the exception. I can't understand why it does so. I did a small experiment and suppressed the rethrow, and then it works !! I am completely lost. Perhaps there could be a side effect I don't know about (or don't consider). Any idea or help is welcome !!! Jean-François Daune --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks,comp.object.corba Subject: vxWorks and CORBA Date: 2 Mar 2001 11:21:40 +0100 From: Uwe.Gerger@vs.dasa.de ("Gerger, Uwe") Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: Hi, I use vxWorks and the Visibroker3.2.2 from Highlander Inc. and I have the problem that during one corba-call the threads blocks with the following tasktrace: 18422c receive__11VISGIOPConnUl+6c : read__10VISTCPConnPcRUlUl () 18c6f8 read__10VISTCPConnPcRUlUl+10c: read () 2c249c read +10 : iosRead () 2c3938 iosRead +d0 : 30b758 () 30b7dc bsdRecv +1ac: soreceive () 32f24c soreceive +324: sbwait () 3305dc sbwait +2c : ksleep () 331398 ksleep +68 : semTake () 33d87c semTake +140: semBTake () Is this either a ressource-problem ( to less file-descriptors: on my system NUM_FILES=600) in vxworks or a problem with CORBA ? Thanks for any infromation! Regards Uwe - -- Posted from gatek.vs.dasa.de [195.243.118.226] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:40:52 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97nsvn$42o$5@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97df5c$r8r$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc538.33eeb@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i46t$htj$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97joh0$fsv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kohg$3si$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcnl$rbg$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <03kt9t0cfhu9k6lc8n40if6tfob7v STFGP wrote: > Optional Identity wrote: Nothing. > > > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:02 > > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > > alt.usenet.kooks : > > > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:06:27 > > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > > >> > > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 > > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > > >> >> > > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on > > >> >> >> >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had > > >> >> >> >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a > > >> >> >> >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. > > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the > > >> >> >> >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a > > >> >> >> >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers > > >> >> >> >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have > > >> >> >> >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and > > >> >> >> >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured > > >> >> >> >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few > > >> >> >> >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try > > >> >> >> anything to succeed, by now. > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would > > >> >> >be surprised if they don't make the final 8. > > >> >> > > > >> >> It is about time they did, but they won't win the Grand Final! > > >> > > > >> >I doubt they would, but a lot of people would love it if they did. > > >> >By beating an interstate team or the bombers. > > >> > > > >> True, but all those people are wrong! > > > > > >Why so? > > > > > Because if the Bombers can't win an Interstate team is the next best, > > preferably the Swans! > > NO That is just plain wrong. And for your own safety, don't ever > say that in a Victorian Pub. Intersate teams are just fine, as long as > they don't win the grand final...... > And definately not the Swans. When the were in the Grand Final, all > of Sydney were so up themselve, not cause the gave a shit about the > match, just cause they had a chance to beat Victoria in their own game, > and didn't they shut the fuck up after the Swans lost. And when > Victoria beat them at their own game and the Storm won... HAHAHA. > > Optional Identity > > > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > > Hace you had your little death today? > > N'est ce pas? > > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! > > -- > The Fucking Pigs > > Two guys, Scotch and Coke > Belches, guitars and cakewalk > The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! > > http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ > > STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:41:32 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97nt0t$42o$6@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <7fbp9tgfdrqse3o8r737jradhe54nmtbqn@4ax.com> <97joif$fsv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97koiq$3si$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr8j$jv$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcod$rbg$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1794.cdebf@newton.pacific.net.au> <3uau9to7kvja1nvf8aq8bt0j4ccg Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:47:17 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:44 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:52:54 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't > >> >> >> >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Are there? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Then there are those who don't like me. > >> >> > > >> >> >Who wouldn't lik you? > >> >> > > >> >> The same people who don't like you, I guess. I.e. fuckkkheads! > >> > > >> >Argh. Yes, those pesky fuckheads. > >> > > >> A lot of them reside in alt.flame > > > >Yeah, well then thankfully I don't see them that often. > > > It is better that way! Though a few of them seem to pay attention to us! > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:42:32 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97nt2o$42o$7@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97i4eg$htj$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jojf$fsv$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <4kgr9tchhur5fjbaun5jvfmdlf38uqfpkg@4ax.com> <97kojt$3si$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr9u$jv$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f1s9tceb1gdtsvfqk9tato69t5e2ibpl2@4ax.com> <97mcql$3jf$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f17c7.d0ac6@newton.pacific.net.au> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:48:08 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > > > > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:58:55 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. > >> >> > > >> >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that > >> >> >not everyone is as luck as me. > >> >> > > >> >> I suggest counseling! > >> > > >> >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle > >> >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your > >> >not happy. > >> > > >> Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? > > > >Yes, cures all your ills. Come one, come all. > > > Get your bottle here, roll up roll up! And it will make you more attractive, a better dancer, singer, lover and pool player. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:43:19 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97nt4a$42o$8@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97i49l$htj$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97jonr$fsv$13@intimidator.databasix.com> <3mgr9tg7kr9v69l91pgbeaev72tfdtd24n@4ax.com> <97kop6$3si$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krda$jv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcvm$3jf$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1842.8df59@newton.pacific.net.au> <14bu9t0u3rt2c4eh0b58h1mpbkeml Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:50:10 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:01:24 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:55:22 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:10:33 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:03:37 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> live > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>with. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>find. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>actually > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> session, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>hours > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>pissed > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> up > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> that > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>vodka > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>set > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> those > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> do > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>the > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>could see > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on > >> >> >> >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to > >> >> >> >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. > >> >> >> >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked > >> >> >> >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a > >> >> >> >> bottle. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond > >> >> >> >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of > >> >> >> >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. > >> >> >> >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it > >> >> >> >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Same goes for Scotch! > >> >> > > >> >> >Yep, it used to be Australian scotch was 37% and Scotch > >> >> >Scotch was 40%. Easy to spot the difference, now you have > >> >> >to do some research if you want to avoid the C&N. > >> >> > > >> >> Actually, for me, it is the alcohol content that matters to me! > >> > > >> >Oh yeah, but back then the C&N was the weaker stuff. So it > >> >was a real quandry, cheaper scotch, but less % v's less cheaper > >> >scotch, but with higher %.... > >> > > >> The false economy thing. > > > >But thankfully, the government, made the one correct decision in my > >entire life and rasied all scotch to 40%.... Ya. Now they just need > >to do it with the rest of the spirit family to make it all even. > > > It is embarrassing in teh bottle shop when you have to check teh > alcohol content before you buy!! Well now with scotch, you don't have to worry about that. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:44:59 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97i4ba$htj$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <0nbp9tg0ep20cd2r29k1i3jskpnh4kfp8d@4ax.com> <97jopv$fsv$14@intimidator.databasix.com> <0pgr9tgfe46oob4uibd2gu1bomiqshucoi@4ax.com> <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <8k1s9t4bke6qipkh8d2hsqjniie5do0ns1@4ax.com> <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:37:35 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:02:26 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:56:06 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:11:22 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:04:46 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for > >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! > >> >> > > >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried > >> >> >and hopefully never will. > >> >> > > >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am sorry > >> >> for bringing it up! > >> > > >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it will stop > >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. > >> > > >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. > > > >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed anyway. > > > An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:48:01 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97ntd7$dkb$1@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4do$htj$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <3obp9t4llods18sb05qrueng9t0qgifh96@4ax.com> <97jos1$fsv$15@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kotb$3si$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f158c.b5ab8@newton.pacific.net.au> <48bu9tg9a0akp01fbtm9b1k8fick1 Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:38:37 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:12:42 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:05:54 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then > >> >> >> >> >> >smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes > >> >> >> >> >> >me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training > >> >> >> >> >> >to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without > >> >> >> >> >> >pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in > >> >> >> >> >> >and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I > >> >> >> >> >> >still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A > >> >> >> >> >> >couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or > >> >> >> >> >> >just > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if > >> >> >> >> >> >you > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and > >> >> >> >> >> >will > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >> >> >> >> >> >>>better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > I'll help ya with that spare one! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> No problem Dave! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >You leave spare drinks lying around? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> No that was the one I got for you, that you couldn't have because you > >> >> >> >> were driving. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Oh... Woo. Thanks for clearing that up. I was nearly about to drop all > >> >> >> >communications with you. It was nice of you to give it to DaveK, though > >> >> >> >personally I would have drank it myself if I was you. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> So would I, but he promised the next shout, and we kept drinking, and > >> >> >> I eventually woke up in a dumpster, but hey it was a great night! > >> >> > > >> >> >It has to have been a good night if you woke up in a dumpster. Did you > >> >> >end up with a traffic cone? > >> >> > > >> >> It was a stop sign this time, the whole thing sign, pole and lump of > >> >> concrete. I wish I could remember how that happened! > >> > > >> >Check your house for a pick.... Or a nieghbourhood car for panel damage. > >> > > >> I guess it must have been Dave K's car! > > > >What? He won't post in our threads, but he's off getting pissed with you, > >drink driving and shit... > > > I can't be sure, I just haven't seen a dented panel for miles around! Well, even if your not sure, just make it up. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: unzip utility for vxworks Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 03:42:07 -0800 (PST) From: Nagasesha Reddy Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <97o2tm$13$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi! Any body knows about the availablity of "unzip" utility (source code) for vxworks platform? thanks in advance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:01:08 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4do$htj$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <3obp9t4llods18sb05qrueng9t0qgifh96@4ax.com> <97jos1$fsv$15@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kotb$3si$10@intimidator.databasix.com> > wrote in message <3a9f158c.b5ab8@newton.pacific.net.au>... >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:12:42 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:05:54 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then >> >> >> >> >> >smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes >> >> >> >> >> >me fall >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training >> >> >> >> >> >to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without >> >> >> >> >> >pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in >> >> >> >> >> >and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I >> >> >> >> >> >still find it >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A >> >> >> >> >> >couple of >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or >> >> >> >> >> >just >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if >> >> >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and >> >> >> >> >> >will >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >> >> >> >>>better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > I'll help ya with that spare one! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No problem Dave! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >You leave spare drinks lying around? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> No that was the one I got for you, that you couldn't have because you >> >> >> >> were driving. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Oh... Woo. Thanks for clearing that up. I was nearly about to drop all >> >> >> >communications with you. It was nice of you to give it to DaveK, though >> >> >> >personally I would have drank it myself if I was you. >> >> >> > >> >> >> So would I, but he promised the next shout, and we kept drinking, and >> >> >> I eventually woke up in a dumpster, but hey it was a great night! >> >> > >> >> >It has to have been a good night if you woke up in a dumpster. Did you >> >> >end up with a traffic cone? >> >> > >> >> It was a stop sign this time, the whole thing sign, pole and lump of >> >> concrete. I wish I could remember how that happened! >> > >> >Check your house for a pick.... Or a nieghbourhood car for panel damage. >> > >> I guess it must have been Dave K's car! > >What? He won't post in our threads, but he's off getting pissed with you, >drink driving and shit... AAAAAAARRRGHA OHMYGODITWASAWFUL ITELLYOU AWFULAAAAARRRGH I've just been through the most terrifying Usenet experience ever. Something went wrong with the feed to and from my server. It was like being trapped in a cave or mine when the entrance tunnel collapses. There were hundreds of us, trapped in there. We were desparate to call for help, but nobody could get a message in or out to the outside world. Cut off from outside existence, nothing but the sound of our own posts echoing around in the dark, wondering how long it would be before rescue came. Some turned to cannibalism, others jumped into the bottomless pits in despair, only the mentally tough were able to survive... I'm deeply traumatised. I think I need a drink. Fortunately I'm off down to London this evening to go on a major pissup with a bunch of old mates from way back when, so I should have recovered my aplomb by the end of the weekend :) DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Anyone experience with END interface changes of T2CP4 ? Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:36:14 +0100 From: "Elmar Daegele" Organization: Siemens Inc. Message-ID: <97o43v$ome$1@news.mch.sbs.de> Hi folks, we are having some trouble with the END interface changes WindRiver introduced with the T2CP4 patch. There are two major changes: 1.) The NET_FUNCS table contains an additional entry: "int (*endBind) (void*, void*, void*, long type);" (see end.h). We could not find any documentation for this new function. 2.) The function "formAddress", which is contained in the NET_FUNCS table, has been extended by an additional parameter: "M_BLK_ID (*formAddress) (M_BLK_ID, M_BLK_ID, M_BLK_ID, BOOL);", the BOOL is new. Again, we could not find any documentation for this new function. Does anyone know the meaning of the new function, and the new parameter ? And how about backward compatibility ? Any help would be very appreciated. Elmar --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks,comp.realtime Subject: NFS Problem Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:24:06 -0500 From: Stephen Zhang - CONTRACTOR Organization: Bell Northern Research Message-ID: <3A9F9EF6.FB6F8115@yahoo.com> Hi, I tried NFS, It is not working. I include all the #define flag in config.h file. (INCLUDE_NFS, INCLUDE_NFS_SERVER, NFS_USER_ID, NFS_GROUP_ID). And the code on server side is like following. STATUS httpNFSServerInit(void) { int rc; rc=nfsExport(ITG_PATH,NFS_GROUP_ID,0,0); if(ERROR == rc) { SYSLOG(SYSLOG_ERROR,ITG_SET,"ERROR: NFS %s Export %s fail!\n", ITG_PATH); return ERROR; } SYSLOG(SYSLOG_INFO,ITG_SET,"NFS %s Export successful!\n", ITG_PATH); return OK; } The code on Client side is like following. STATUS nfsClientInit(void) { int result = 0; result = hostAdd(CSNAME,"47.147.75.17"); if(ERROR == result) { SYSLOG(SYSLOG_ERROR, ITG_SET, "NFS hostAdd failure"); return ERROR; } nfsIdSet(NFS_GROUP_ID); result = nfsMount(CSNAME, ITG_PATH, NFS_PATH); if (ERROR == result) { SYSLOG(SYSLOG_ERROR,ITG_SET,"Error mount NFS %s to %s\n", (char*)ITG_PATH, NFS_PATH); return ERROR; } SYSLOG(SYSLOG_INFO,ITG_SET,"mount NFS %s to %s successful!\n", (char*)ITG_PATH, NFS_PATH); return OK; } And there is Dos file system on Client and Server. It already mount to the system. On Server side, I tried to export the directory, it works. But on Client side it fails, when I try to mount the directory on Server side, But anybody tell me, what is wrong with the code above, if you have a good code, could you pass to me!. thank you very much. best regards, Stephen --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 01:25:34 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97oa56$432$1@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4do$htj$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <3obp9t4llods18sb05qrueng9t0qgifh96@4ax.com> <97jos1$fsv$15@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kotb$3si$10@intimidator.databasix.com> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > <3a9f158c.b5ab8@newton.pacific.net.au>... > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:12:42 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:05:54 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I > drink alot then > >> >> >> >> >> >smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do > this. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly > pissed, it just makes > >> >> >> >> >> >me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive > yogic training > >> >> >> >> >> >to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke > yourself stupid without > >> >> >> >> >> >pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is > rewarding in > >> >> >> >> >> >and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated > to both. I > >> >> >> >> >> >still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and > then drink. A > >> >> >> >> >> >couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh > hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with > the hangover or > >> >> >> >> >> >just > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you > insist, even if > >> >> >> >> >> >you > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without > smoking, and > >> >> >> >> >> >will > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do > want too. > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. > :) > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. > You > >> >> >> >> >> >>>better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > I'll help ya with that spare one! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> No problem Dave! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >You leave spare drinks lying around? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> No that was the one I got for you, that you couldn't have > because you > >> >> >> >> were driving. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Oh... Woo. Thanks for clearing that up. I was nearly about to > drop all > >> >> >> >communications with you. It was nice of you to give it to DaveK, > though > >> >> >> >personally I would have drank it myself if I was you. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> So would I, but he promised the next shout, and we kept drinking, > and > >> >> >> I eventually woke up in a dumpster, but hey it was a great night! > >> >> > > >> >> >It has to have been a good night if you woke up in a dumpster. Did > you > >> >> >end up with a traffic cone? > >> >> > > >> >> It was a stop sign this time, the whole thing sign, pole and lump of > >> >> concrete. I wish I could remember how that happened! > >> > > >> >Check your house for a pick.... Or a nieghbourhood car for panel > damage. > >> > > >> I guess it must have been Dave K's car! > > > >What? He won't post in our threads, but he's off getting pissed with you, > >drink driving and shit... > > AAAAAAARRRGHA OHMYGODITWASAWFUL ITELLYOU AWFULAAAAARRRGH I've just been > through the most terrifying Usenet experience ever. > > Something went wrong with the feed to and from my server. It was like > being trapped in a cave or mine when the entrance tunnel collapses. There > were hundreds of us, trapped in there. We were desparate to call for help, > but nobody could get a message in or out to the outside world. Cut off from > outside existence, nothing but the sound of our own posts echoing around in > the dark, wondering how long it would be before rescue came. Some turned to > cannibalism, others jumped into the bottomless pits in despair, only the > mentally tough were able to survive... > > I'm deeply traumatised. I think I need a drink. Fortunately I'm off down > to London this evening to go on a major pissup with a bunch of old mates > from way back when, so I should have recovered my aplomb by the end of the > weekend :) > > DaveK So that's where you been.... I was just about to claim spank on you. Oh well, I'll have to try on someone else. Have fun. - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How to build and download tens of test applications into the VxWorks target Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:56:23 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983545256.798437@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <97mubd$pht@news.or.intel.com> William, you must not have a main() function in your software for VxWorks this will not work (at least with the versions i have and had...) if you are using the WindSh of Tornado, you can have some kind of script using its input redirection feature everything you can do in WindSh can be done - - download files with ld < 'filename on host' - - invoke the functions - - anything else you'd like to invoke that script enter < 'name of the script on the host maschine' be sure you have set up the path correctly the < is part of what you have to input! ===== the kernel can as well dynamically load modules accessibly from the target system i think it's loadLib where to look for the appropriate docs but be warned, this requires a lot of system feature like symbol tables etc on the target and is quite a mess if you could also have it simply linked into your image. i would always prefer that option (link everything together) if at all possible... hth werner William Cheung wrote in message news:97mubd$pht@news.or.intel.com... > To all, > > I am porting a network library and the associated test programs to the > VxWorks platform. > The test programs were developed on unix environments and all of them have > the main() > functions. Is there a way to automate the process of downloading each test > program and > launch them? Or the executables can be dynamically loaded by the VxWorks > kernel? > Also, can Tornado generate makefile so I can take it as a reference makefile > to build all > of my test applications. > > Regards, > William > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Anyone experience with END interface changes of T2CP4 ? Date: 2 Mar 2001 15:10:43 GMT From: borkhuis@agere.com (Johan Borkhuis) Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: References: <97o43v$ome$1@news.mch.sbs.de> "Elmar Daegele" wrote: >we are having some trouble with the END interface changes WindRiver >introduced with the T2CP4 patch. There are two major changes: > >1.) The NET_FUNCS table contains an additional entry: "int (*endBind) >(void*, void*, void*, long type);" (see end.h). We could not find any >documentation for this new function. > >2.) The function "formAddress", which is contained in the NET_FUNCS >table, has been extended by an additional parameter: "M_BLK_ID >(*formAddress) (M_BLK_ID, M_BLK_ID, M_BLK_ID, BOOL);", the BOOL is new. >Again, we could not find any documentation for this new function. It could be that some information is available in the Network Protocol Toolkit, as this is integrated into 2.0.2 (aka T2CP4). Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: unzip utility for vxworks Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:17:11 -0500 From: "Yin, Yong" Organization: Nortel Message-ID: <97oh3f$d0n$1@bmerhc5e.ca.nortel.com> References: <97o2tm$13$1@overload.lbl.gov> try "gzip" or "zlib". They are free and you can find them on internet. Yong Nagasesha Reddy wrote in message news:97o2tm$13$1@overload.lbl.gov... > Hi! > Any body knows about the availablity of > "unzip" utility (source code) for vxworks platform? > > > thanks in advance > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: using UGL for monochrome display Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 16:43:57 GMT From: "VC" Organization: null Message-ID: Hi, Has anyone out there used UGL with monochrome display? Does someone has the code for writing to a 1 bit frame buffer instead of 8 or 16 bit? Vicky --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: using UGL for monochrome display Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 17:25:38 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>>>> "VC" == VC writes: VC> Hi, Has anyone out there used UGL with monochrome display? Does VC> someone has the code for writing to a 1 bit frame buffer instead VC> of 8 or 16 bit? yes. yes. Would you like a better answer? I thought so. What version of the UGL do you use? The `generic' routines are like one bit versions of the driver. On the vxWorks web sight, there was a UGL conversion kit for people moving from UGL 1.2 to UGL/WindML 2.0. In this kit, there was a 1 and 2 bit display driver, or so I remember. 1,2,4 bit plane memory is difficult to code because you must do many more memory accesses than an 8 or 16 bit display. Typical pixel set takes a read, mask, set, write sequence. With 8 bits, you just write. In other words, your driver will be really slow! An easy way to get ugl working is to copy the 8 bit initialize code. Set all the function pointers to generic routines, except for fbpixel set and get routines. The driver will be slow, but it should work. Optimizing the hline/vline will improve performance tremendously. The next speed increase would be bitmaps (which might be easy because you have only monochrome bitmaps!) Other things are fairly marginal. "c-writeDrv.html" in the `ugl_dtk.tar' is helpful. Check-out windsurf for this tar file. I don't know why WRS doesn't provide a stubbed generic driver. I think they want the service group to write all hardware specific code for people... hth, Bill - -- Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Linked List VME to PCI DMA with mv2604 and VxWorks 5.4 Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:25:07 -0700 From: "Boucher, Bill" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <97oo0m$cvv$1@overload.lbl.gov> All, I'm using VxWorks 5.4, and want to achieve linked-list-mode, VME to PCI data DMA transfers, via the Universe II chip DMA support that is built into the mv2604 BSP & (PowerPC architecture) kernel. I have direct-mode DMA transfers working (grabs N bytes from VME space and transfers the data to buffers in PCI space), but when I try a linked-list-mode transfer it never completes (the interrupt-driven transfer-complete semaphore times out after 60 seconds). The list contents seems right, and I know I'm pointing to it's start location correctly within PCI space. It (and each packet within it) does begin on a 32-byte boundary (as required). I set up the VME and packet-dependent PCI addresses, the number of bytes to transfer per packet, next packet's PCI address, and set the "null" bit, as specified in the Tundra manual, to indicate if the current packet is the last packet in the list. I'm sure I'm close, just missing some crucial piece. Please send advice (or a working example routine)! Thanks, --Bill ******************************************** Bill Boucher Realtime Systems Engineer Boeing-SVS Inc. 4411 The 25 Way NE, Ste 350 Albuquerque, NM 87109 (505) 342-4600 (front desk) (505) 449-4869 (direct line) (505) 875-7386 (pager) (505) 345-8303 (fax) bill.boucher@svsinc.com ******************************************** --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: strange problem Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:36:56 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <97oovi$7$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <97m67p$9ut$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Hi, I know what's wrong here now Static functions, which are not listed in the global system symbol table, can't be found from the table. When I get a function pointer and want to find what's its name, the function symFindByValue returns the name of the closest function. That's why I got 2 different function pointers. So, to solve the problem, I should compare the return value of function pointer ---- if it's different, it's a static function. Have a nice day Freeman Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman) wrote in message news:97m67p$9ut$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com... > I got stack traces like this: > > 0x0026b3ec _buf_pool_find > 0x0026b798 _osp_Timeout > 0x9921a8a0 _rc_call_dump > 0x0021afb8 _rc_call_dump > 0x9921c060 _rc_call_release > 0x000669b4 _vxTaskEntry > > I'm totally confused : is it possible for one function has two values in the > symbol table? Please be noted of _rc_call_dump > > Anybody gives me a hint? > > > Thanks > Freeman > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Programming Flash from VxWorks Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:51:49 -0500 From: "nitin kumar" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <97otdl$146$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Hi, I am trying to program the flash from my BSP and the specific flash chip that we are using is Intel Strata Flash i28F128J3A. However, I am still using the flash28WriteIntel1() routine to write bytes into the flash. I don;t think I am writing any thing. Do I need to use some other routine for this chip ? Thanks in advance Nitin --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Problem with the VxWorks image size Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 13:05:04 -0700 From: Joe Macke Organization: WinStar GoodNet, Inc. Message-ID: <3A9FFCF0.37E2@goodnet.com> References: <3a9ce37a.13753536@news.belgium.eu.net> <3A9D1066.E9A0CF3D@txt.it> <3a9d15db.26650921@news.belgium.eu.net> Reply-To: jmacke@goodnet.com RAM_LOW_ADRS is the base loading address of VxWorks. RAM_HIGH_ADRS is the address at which the boot code is loaded (as from a boot PROM or flash, I'm not sure just what role it plays in a network boot.) At any rate, from a boot ROM, the bootstrap program is loaded at RAM_HIGH_ADRS and execution is started there. The bootstrap then begins to load VxWorks starting at RAM_LOW_ADRS. If the size of the VxWorks image exceeds the difference between RAM_HIGH_ADRS and RAM_LOW_ADRS, part of the bootstrap is overwritten. This yields the proverbial "unpredictable results." However in my experience the results are entirely predictable...a system hang. Try moving RAM_HIGH_ADRS up about 3MB. This will be plenty and you can see if this is your problem. If you system then boots, you can lower the value by, say 0.5MB, chunks until you get to a value that still works, but doesn't use too much memory. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: How to find the function name? Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:26:34 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <97ovd3$1ip$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Hi When the system crash, we print out a trace with each line including the function pointer and function name. My problem is : some functions are declared as static function so they can't be shown out correctly by just retrieving its name from sysSymTbl. (Am I wrong? Please point out the correct reason ) There must be a way to read the executable file(or some other files?) and find the name by its function pointer. How? Thanks Freeman --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: muxBind Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:33:35 GMT From: "Christophe Belmont" Organization: Verio Message-ID: Hi, I'm using the function muxBind() to add my own decoding functions. I would like to receive ARP packets with this function instead of the normal function. Does one of you know how to do this? Do you know what "muxAddrResFunc..." functions do? I called the muxAddrResFuncDel to try to delete the ARP address resolution function but it still here when I type muxShow(). Thank you in advance, Christophe. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Motorola 8260 cache and flash visibility Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:04:29 +0100 From: "gamma" Organization: Galactica.it News Service Message-ID: Hello everybody, does anybody tried to read/write flash with both (I/D) caches and MMU enabled ? (VxWorks 5.4) On Motorola eval board ADS8260 D-cache is disabled ........ and for WindRiver seems not relevant to run without cache enabled !!!!! :-( Thanks in advance, Gamma --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 09:13:00 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97i46t$htj$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97joh0$fsv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kohg$3si$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcnl$rbg$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <03kt9t0cfhu9k6lc8n40if6tfob7vu43st@4ax.com> <3a9f1767.f400e@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nsvn$42o$5@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:40:52 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >STFGP wrote: > >> Optional Identity wrote: Nothing. >> >> > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:02 >> > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> > alt.usenet.kooks : >> > >> > >Optional Identity wrote: >> > > >> > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:06:27 >> > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> > >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> > >> >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 >> > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had >> > >> >> >> >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a >> > >> >> >> >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the >> > >> >> >> >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. >> > >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a >> > >> >> >> >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers >> > >> >> >> >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have >> > >> >> >> >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and >> > >> >> >> >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. >> > >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured >> > >> >> >> >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few >> > >> >> >> >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try >> > >> >> >> anything to succeed, by now. >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> >Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would >> > >> >> >be surprised if they don't make the final 8. >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> It is about time they did, but they won't win the Grand Final! >> > >> > >> > >> >I doubt they would, but a lot of people would love it if they did. >> > >> >By beating an interstate team or the bombers. >> > >> > >> > >> True, but all those people are wrong! >> > > >> > >Why so? >> > > >> > Because if the Bombers can't win an Interstate team is the next best, >> > preferably the Swans! >> >> NO That is just plain wrong. And for your own safety, don't ever >> say that in a Victorian Pub. Intersate teams are just fine, as long as >> they don't win the grand final...... >> And definately not the Swans. When the were in the Grand Final, all >> of Sydney were so up themselve, not cause the gave a shit about the >> match, just cause they had a chance to beat Victoria in their own game, >> and didn't they shut the fuck up after the Swans lost. And when >> Victoria beat them at their own game and the Storm won... HAHAHA. > That was nearly as much fun as when The Raiders did it 2 years in a row. I knew suggesting the Swans should win would upset you. YHBT. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 09:13:43 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97joif$fsv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97koiq$3si$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr8j$jv$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcod$rbg$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1794.cdebf@newton.pacific.net.au> <3uau9to7kvja1nvf8aq8bt0j4ccgm9g7gb@4ax.com> <97nt0t$42o$6@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:41:32 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:47:17 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:44 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:52:54 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't >> >> >> >> >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Are there? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Then there are those who don't like me. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Who wouldn't lik you? >> >> >> > >> >> >> The same people who don't like you, I guess. I.e. fuckkkheads! >> >> > >> >> >Argh. Yes, those pesky fuckheads. >> >> > >> >> A lot of them reside in alt.flame >> > >> >Yeah, well then thankfully I don't see them that often. >> > >> It is better that way! > >Though a few of them seem to pay attention to us! > Fuck knows why they care, jealousy? - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 09:14:58 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97jojf$fsv$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <4kgr9tchhur5fjbaun5jvfmdlf38uqfpkg@4ax.com> <97kojt$3si$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr9u$jv$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f1s9tceb1gdtsvfqk9tato69t5e2ibpl2@4ax.com> <97mcql$3jf$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f17c7.d0ac6@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt2o$42o$7@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:42:32 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:48:08 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:58:55 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that >> >> >> >not everyone is as luck as me. >> >> >> > >> >> >> I suggest counseling! >> >> > >> >> >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle >> >> >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your >> >> >not happy. >> >> > >> >> Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? >> > >> >Yes, cures all your ills. Come one, come all. >> > >> Get your bottle here, roll up roll up! > >And it will make you more attractive, a better dancer, singer, >lover and pool player. > No one would ever complain about being a better pool player! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 09:18:07 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <6r60atk16a5t4k2sp6ho5aju2vibpmf5tc@4ax.com> References: <97jonr$fsv$13@intimidator.databasix.com> <3mgr9tg7kr9v69l91pgbeaev72tfdtd24n@4ax.com> <97kop6$3si$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krda$jv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcvm$3jf$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1842.8df59@newton.pacific.net.au> <14bu9t0u3rt2c4eh0b58h1mpbkemljkpfu@4ax.com> <97nt4a$42o$8@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:43:19 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:50:10 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:01:24 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:55:22 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:10:33 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:03:37 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> live >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>find. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>actually >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> session, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>hours >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>pissed >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> up >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>vodka >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>set >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> those >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> do >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>could see >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to >> >> >> >> >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. >> >> >> >> >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked >> >> >> >> >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a >> >> >> >> >> bottle. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond >> >> >> >> >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of >> >> >> >> >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. >> >> >> >> >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it >> >> >> >> >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Same goes for Scotch! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Yep, it used to be Australian scotch was 37% and Scotch >> >> >> >Scotch was 40%. Easy to spot the difference, now you have >> >> >> >to do some research if you want to avoid the C&N. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Actually, for me, it is the alcohol content that matters to me! >> >> > >> >> >Oh yeah, but back then the C&N was the weaker stuff. So it >> >> >was a real quandry, cheaper scotch, but less % v's less cheaper >> >> >scotch, but with higher %.... >> >> > >> >> The false economy thing. >> > >> >But thankfully, the government, made the one correct decision in my >> >entire life and rasied all scotch to 40%.... Ya. Now they just need >> >to do it with the rest of the spirit family to make it all even. >> > >> It is embarrassing in teh bottle shop when you have to check teh >> alcohol content before you buy!! > >Well now with scotch, you don't have to worry about that. > The Scotch Marketing Board must have bribed the Government. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 09:18:48 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <3170atk9f6el59t03pvk0r11uru4fpaule@4ax.com> References: <97jopv$fsv$14@intimidator.databasix.com> <0pgr9tgfe46oob4uibd2gu1bomiqshucoi@4ax.com> <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <8k1s9t4bke6qipkh8d2hsqjniie5do0ns1@4ax.com> <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:44:59 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:37:35 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:02:26 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:56:06 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:11:22 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:04:46 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried >> >> >> >and hopefully never will. >> >> >> > >> >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am sorry >> >> >> for bringing it up! >> >> > >> >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it will stop >> >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. >> >> > >> >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. >> > >> >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed anyway. >> > >> An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. > >And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after >drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. > Same goes for guns and rifles. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 09:20:05 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4do$htj$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <3obp9t4llods18sb05qrueng9t0qgifh96@4ax.com> <97jos1$fsv$15@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kotb$3si$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f158c.b5ab8@newton.pacific.net.au> <48bu9tg9a0akp01fbtm9b1k8fick1sjpto@4ax.com> <97ntd7$dkb$1@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:48:01 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:38:37 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:12:42 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:05:54 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then >> >> >> >> >> >> >smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes >> >> >> >> >> >> >me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training >> >> >> >> >> >> >to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without >> >> >> >> >> >> >pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in >> >> >> >> >> >> >and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I >> >> >> >> >> >> >still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A >> >> >> >> >> >> >couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or >> >> >> >> >> >> >just >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if >> >> >> >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and >> >> >> >> >> >> >will >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > I'll help ya with that spare one! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No problem Dave! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >You leave spare drinks lying around? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> No that was the one I got for you, that you couldn't have because you >> >> >> >> >> were driving. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Oh... Woo. Thanks for clearing that up. I was nearly about to drop all >> >> >> >> >communications with you. It was nice of you to give it to DaveK, though >> >> >> >> >personally I would have drank it myself if I was you. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> So would I, but he promised the next shout, and we kept drinking, and >> >> >> >> I eventually woke up in a dumpster, but hey it was a great night! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >It has to have been a good night if you woke up in a dumpster. Did you >> >> >> >end up with a traffic cone? >> >> >> > >> >> >> It was a stop sign this time, the whole thing sign, pole and lump of >> >> >> concrete. I wish I could remember how that happened! >> >> > >> >> >Check your house for a pick.... Or a nieghbourhood car for panel damage. >> >> > >> >> I guess it must have been Dave K's car! >> > >> >What? He won't post in our threads, but he's off getting pissed with you, >> >drink driving and shit... >> > >> I can't be sure, I just haven't seen a dented panel for miles around! > >Well, even if your not sure, just make it up. > I am making it up! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Logging Stuff.. Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:10:29 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <97p90f$3u7$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <3A9ED0B1.8CA9D1D5@voxware.com> <983488019.760284@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> Or maybe you can write your own memShow by using memPartInfoGet(), that's easier, at least for me. Yes, Werner's idea sounds good. Redirect it to a pipe when you call memShow and change it back after you are done. Is it possible? Freeman Werner Schiendl wrote in message news:983488019.760284@newsmaster-04.atnet.at... > Craig, > > I would redirect the standard output to some device driver you can easily > write yourself. > You can redirect the standard output for an individual task or - if you > think this is necessary - for the whole system. > > you could also use a ramdrive and create a file there, if you do not want to > write that driver. > upload would be easier in this case if you use FTP for that > > hth > werner > > Craig Vanderborgh wrote in message > news:3A9ED0B1.8CA9D1D5@voxware.com... > > Hi All: > > > > I'm interested in adding some logging facilities to our application, > > and I'm trying to figure out the best way to deal with this problem: > > > > I'd like to be able to log output from things like memShow(), i(), > > etc. However, the output from these VxWorks routines all goes to > > stdout. What is the best way to get this kind of stuff into memory > > so that it could be possibly formatted and uploaded to a server? > > > > Any ideas? > > > > regards, > > craig vanderborgh > > voxware incorporated > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: invalid descriptor on a select... Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 23:43:09 GMT From: "martin boulay" Organization: Sympatico Message-ID: Hi everybody! I'm writing a c++ client server application under a PowerPC board (vxWorks5.4) and my server have a problem. The server is able to accept the client, the client side write on the file descriptor all the bytes. On the server side I made a select to the read_set to see and read what the client haved send. My select call return -1 with the errno error S_ioLib_INVALID_DESCRIPTOR_ERROR...what the meaning of this error...? I tried a version with a card and is working, I tried to transport that in the same vxWorks version on different card on different network but is not work. Do you think I forgot to add something on the second set of card (forget to add module on the second vxWroks kernel) or is really a error who could append because my code is not write properly. Can anybody can help me? Thank you! Martin --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: The routing and interface table information Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 23:46:41 GMT From: Carlos Rimola Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Message-ID: <3AA02FF6.9BD4E17C@praxon.com> References: <97hu1m$7fq$1@overload.lbl.gov> I posted this via the exploder list but I have not seen it in the newsgroup so I will repost: You can get the current interface and routing table via calls to sysctl_rtable (NET_RT_DUMP & NET_RT_IFLIST). You can also get the routing table by using the rn_walktree function which will "walk" the table - calling a function provided by the caller for each route in the system. I would suggest taking a look at the RIP implementation for examples of sysctl_rtable usage and their general approach to similar issues. I don't know of any hooks for dynamically added routes and/or interfaces - the RIP implementation, for example, can be set up to periodically fetch the interface table to look for new interfaces (using sysctl_rtable) which implies that Wind River (or at least the RIP implementors) did not know of such hooks. If all your route adds/deletes end up calling rtrequest (they should) then you can implement a call to your route add/delete hooks here. Similarly for interfaces, place your hooks in if_attach & if_detach. Carlos Rimola Sr. Software Engineer Praxon, Inc. Ajay Agrawal wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking at developing a routing protocol module on Vxworks. The Vxworks > stack is used with BSD complaint (non-MUX) network interfaces. > The routing module would require all the existing routing and interface > table information during it's initialization. Also any dynamic updates on > the routing and interface table information should be made available to this > routing module. > > What kind of interfaces/hooks does Vxworks provide to acheive this? > > Thanks and regards > ajay --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: CORBA-blocking on vxWorks Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 23:58:00 GMT From: Craig Vanderborgh Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <3AA03387.F644400E@voxware.com> References: <3A9F6FEA.E898ECAD@vs.dasa.de> This appears to be a quite straightforward situation. Your CORBA call is blocked on a binary sempahore, which it does not get. The trouble is that some other thread is supposed to do a "semGive" so that your CORBA call call can proceed. In my view, this could only be caused by a synchronization bug in the CORBA implementation, although I could be wrong. regards, craig vanderborgh voxware incorporated Uwe Gerger wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm using Highlanders Visibroker3.2.2 on vxWorks and it seems that a > corba-thread blocks in one call. Here the tasktrace: > > 1a5e28 > invoke__11VISStubInfoP22CORBA_MarshalOutBufferP19CORBA_ExceptionList+74 > : > receive_reply__11VISStubInfoP22CORBA_MarshalOutBufferP19CORBA_ExceptionList > () > 1a5804 > receive_reply__11VISStubInfoP22CORBA_MarshalOutBufferP19CORBA_ExceptionLi > > st+98 : receive_reply__11VISGIOPConnUlUl () > 183c68 receive_reply__11VISGIOPConnUlUl+198: > _receive_reply__11VISGIOPConnP14VIS > ReplyWaiterUl ()183880 > _receive_reply__11VISGIOPConnP14VISReplyWaiterUl+84 : > receive__11VISGIOPC > onnUl () > 18422c receive__11VISGIOPConnUl+6c : read__10VISTCPConnPcRUlUl () > 18c6f8 read__10VISTCPConnPcRUlUl+10c: read () > 2c249c read +10 : iosRead () > 2c3938 iosRead +d0 : 30b758 () > 30b7dc bsdRecv +1ac: soreceive () > 32f24c soreceive +324: sbwait () > 3305dc sbwait +2c : ksleep () > 331398 ksleep +68 : semTake () > 33d87c semTake +140: semBTake () > > I don't know if it is a corba-problem or a ressource-problem in vxWorks? > > Has somebody any ideas? > > Regards > Uwe --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How to find the function name? Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 03:46:12 GMT From: Pierre Frigon Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <3AA06920.F4921455@yahoo.com> References: <97ovd3$1ip$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> If you are using Tornado II there is an option in the IDE that enables adding static symbols to the symbol table. These are not added by default. You could also load your object files using this syntax which is equivalent : ld (1) < myLib.o There is also a function that looks like lkupAddr() you can call from the shell that finds a symbol given a specified address (assuming that the symbol exists in the symbol table). Hope this helps "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" wrote: > Hi > > When the system crash, we print out a trace with each line including the > function pointer and function name. > > My problem is : some functions are declared as static function so they can't > be shown out correctly by just retrieving its name from sysSymTbl. > (Am I wrong? Please point out the correct reason ) > > There must be a way to read the executable file(or some other files?) and > find the name by its function pointer. How? > > Thanks > Freeman --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: T2 man pages??? Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 18:20:07 GMT From: "bob houston" Organization: Road Runner - Texas Message-ID: References: <3A8AE8FE.D8334752@sis-dev.com> <982926857.174058@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <983208952.572320@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <983360602.462@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> "Werner Schiendl" wrote in message news:983360602.462@newsmaster-04.atnet.at... > > > But I would agree that the positioning of windows is often a pain (in > > almost > > > any IDE I know of). > > > > And you were moving the mouse between the shortcuts? and left clicking > > to get focus in a new window? > > Depends on what to select. Usually I use the arrow keys to do the selection. > For some operations mouse usage is nice sometimes it's awkward. > > But you do not need to click the window or move the mouse to activate the > window. > The shortcut does all the job: bring the window to front, activate it,... > I guess that's my biggest gripe about most GUI apps, their sheer screen size. I prefer having my xterms arranged on the screen with no overlap. No need to 'bring window to the front'. I began with unix in the early 80s so command line interface is natural to me. And the hundreds of unix commands and tricks were added thru the years, so there was no steep learning curve. Of course I use gui tools where they're appropriate and useful, but for nitty gritty programming it's hard to beat the speed and power of command line, manpages, and vi. emacs is ok, too, just not installed on every machine like vi. BTW for a very good gui vi, take a look at VIM, available on virtually every platform. A common thing i have to do is bring up a unix server that has no graphics head, just a serial console. Without a terminal type editor and command line knowledge, it's impossible. - bob > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Task Hook Switch Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 02:18:20 GMT From: pkockritz@home.com (Pete Kockritz) Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: References: <8fms9tsih4ppd3pas0f3icfhqafpumlf7q@4ax.com> In article , pkockritz@home.com (Pete Kockritz) wrote: > In article <8fms9tsih4ppd3pas0f3icfhqafpumlf7q@4ax.com>, Lee DeRaud > wrote: > > > On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 00:02:03 -0600, "Adam Cabler" > > wrote: > > > > >I'm trying to execute a printf in a task hook switch routine. Has anyone > > >had problems with this before? When I call the code - the shell loses > > >control and the target server backplane crashes. Is it just me? > > > > No, it's not just you: *anybody* who does what you describe will get > > the same symptoms. The restrictions on task switch hook routines are > > similar to those for interrupt service routines. RTFM. > > > > Lee > > Use logMsg instead of printf. Oops, I guess I should've RTFM'ed before responding. Turns out the restrictions on task hook routines are more severe than ISRs. You apparently can't do logMsg from a task switch hook routine. Regards, Pete - -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Kockritz mailto:pkockritz@home.com | | This space for rent. | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: reloc overflow Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 06:30:35 +0100 From: "Normen Altiparmak" Message-ID: <97sjuf$pttet$1@ID-12908.news.dfncis.de> References: <97m490$9fo$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> you can add a splitbyreloc in the makefile --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: (beginer) Problem "catching" a cPCI interrupt Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:27:47 -0600 From: "news.execpc.com" Organization: ExecPC Internet - Milwaukee, WI Message-ID: <3aa1e04a$0$45998$272ea4a1@news.execpc.com> References: <3a8a4aab@news.bezeqint.net> <3A8CFD2A.900A38E1@philips.com> Hi David, Looks like the same hardware we are using. Wim's repsonse is definitely correct. Also, make sure you perform the intEnable(). Are you familiar with the interrupts and how the intterupt vector table is implemented? We left their intConnect() function intact, then wrote a myIntConnect() function that takes two additional parameters. The first additional parameter includes a priority parameter so, based on priorrity, we can perform an "intConnect()" and insert our routine in various locations of the interrupt vector's linked list of routines. The second parameter addressed the issue of having "terminating" response to an interrupt when an interrupt is cleared. The vector table's linked list of intConnect()'ed routines stops being traversed when one of the routines successfully clears the interrupt. The caveat to that is in situations where two interrupts have been generated (nearly) simultaneously. Some routines get executed twice. For us, it was a tradeoff that reaped performance dividends. If this special processing is not done, all the function's connected for a given interrupt, are executed. Lastly, be sure not to connect your interrupt service routines more than once. The intConnect() routine does not look for multiple instances of a routine connected for a given vector. Thus, a routine connected more than once for a given interrupt will execute multiple times. That is unless you modify the O/S's interrupt service routine that traverses the vector's linked list of routines. HTH, Tom Wim Mosterman wrote in message news:3A8CFD2A.900A38E1@philips.com... > David, > > If I recall correctly, you should add INT_NUM_IRQ0 (defined in config.h) to your > interrupt number like this: > INUM_TO_IVEC(lvl + INT_NUM_IRQ0) > > Hope this helps... > > Wim Mosterman > > > David Ganor wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > Some backgroug info, first: > > 1. VxWorks 5.4 > > 2. Target: Motorola with CPU PPC750 > > 3. BSP version: 1.2/0 > > 4. Tornado II > > > > I have a system board with a cPCI interface, on which a PLX9054 chip is the > > PCI bridge (the board has a local bus...). > > I have configured the CPU_PCI_MEM_SIZE to be 32MBytes and the board uses > > about 10MBytes. > > I have wrote an ISR to be activated when the board, througth the PLX chip, > > drives an interrupt. There are no problems configuring the PLX and the > > interrupt > > line is "active". > > When running the code the ISR isn't activated, thought the intConnect() > > returns > > with OK. I used intConnecte() like that: > > lvl = PCI_cfg->DEV_INT_LINE; > > ... > > if (intConnect (INUM_TO_IVEC (lvl), (VOIDFUNCPTR) ISR, (int) this) != > > OK) > > { > > printf("[PLX] ERROR - Failed to connect interrupt to ISR!\n"); > > } > > Could anyone sujest an insight? What am I doing wrong? > > Maybe the PLX9054 isn't configured right? -> What are the main configuration > > regarding > > the described problem? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > David Ganor > --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:37:09 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97tg25$8fl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97i46t$htj$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97joh0$fsv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kohg$3si$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcnl$rbg$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <03kt9t0cfhu9k6lc8n40if6tfob7vu43st@4ax.com> <3a9f1767.f400e@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nsvn$42o$5@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:40:52 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >STFGP wrote: > > > >> Optional Identity wrote: Nothing. > >> > >> > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:02 > >> > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> > alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > > >> > >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:06:27 > >> > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 > >> > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the > >> > >> >> >> >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. > >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a > >> > >> >> >> >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers > >> > >> >> >> >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have > >> > >> >> >> >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and > >> > >> >> >> >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. > >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured > >> > >> >> >> >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few > >> > >> >> >> >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > >> >> >> Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try > >> > >> >> >> anything to succeed, by now. > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would > >> > >> >> >be surprised if they don't make the final 8. > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> It is about time they did, but they won't win the Grand Final! > >> > >> > > >> > >> >I doubt they would, but a lot of people would love it if they did. > >> > >> >By beating an interstate team or the bombers. > >> > >> > > >> > >> True, but all those people are wrong! > >> > > > >> > >Why so? > >> > > > >> > Because if the Bombers can't win an Interstate team is the next best, > >> > preferably the Swans! > >> > >> NO That is just plain wrong. And for your own safety, don't ever > >> say that in a Victorian Pub. Intersate teams are just fine, as long as > >> they don't win the grand final...... > >> And definately not the Swans. When the were in the Grand Final, all > >> of Sydney were so up themselve, not cause the gave a shit about the > >> match, just cause they had a chance to beat Victoria in their own game, > >> and didn't they shut the fuck up after the Swans lost. And when > >> Victoria beat them at their own game and the Storm won... HAHAHA. > > > That was nearly as much fun as when The Raiders did it 2 years in a > row. I knew suggesting the Swans should win would upset you. YHBT. EABOS. I was going for the raiders when they won, then I went for the broncos when the started and they won, then I went for the storm and they won. I have the magic touch. I don't go for the swans, so they wont win. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:38:27 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97tg4r$8fl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97joif$fsv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97koiq$3si$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr8j$jv$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcod$rbg$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1794.cdebf@newton.pacific.net.au> <3uau9to7kvja1nvf8aq8bt0j4ccgm9g7gb@4ax.com> <97nt0t$42o$6@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:41:32 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:47:17 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:44 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:52:54 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't > >> >> >> >> >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Are there? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Then there are those who don't like me. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Who wouldn't lik you? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> The same people who don't like you, I guess. I.e. fuckkkheads! > >> >> > > >> >> >Argh. Yes, those pesky fuckheads. > >> >> > > >> >> A lot of them reside in alt.flame > >> > > >> >Yeah, well then thankfully I don't see them that often. > >> > > >> It is better that way! > > > >Though a few of them seem to pay attention to us! > > > Fuck knows why they care, jealousy? Stupidity? But I gotta say, I do feel loved right now. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:39:22 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97tg6d$8fl$9@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97jojf$fsv$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <4kgr9tchhur5fjbaun5jvfmdlf38uqfpkg@4ax.com> <97kojt$3si$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr9u$jv$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f1s9tceb1gdtsvfqk9tato69t5e2ibpl2@4ax.com> <97mcql$3jf$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f17c7.d0ac6@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt2o$42o$7@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:42:32 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:48:08 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> > > >> > > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:58:55 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that > >> >> >> >not everyone is as luck as me. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> I suggest counseling! > >> >> > > >> >> >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle > >> >> >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your > >> >> >not happy. > >> >> > > >> >> Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? > >> > > >> >Yes, cures all your ills. Come one, come all. > >> > > >> Get your bottle here, roll up roll up! > > > >And it will make you more attractive, a better dancer, singer, > >lover and pool player. > > > No one would ever complain about being a better pool player! I refuse to play pool now. My game, which was never great has gone downhhill the last few months. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:40:24 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97tg81$8fl$10@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97jonr$fsv$13@intimidator.databasix.com> <3mgr9tg7kr9v69l91pgbeaev72tfdtd24n@4ax.com> <97kop6$3si$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krda$jv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcvm$3jf$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1842.8df59@newton.pacific.net.au> <14bu9t0u3rt2c4eh0b58h1mpbkemljkpfu@4ax.com> <97nt4a$42o$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <6r60atk16a5t4k2sp6ho5aju2vibp Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> live > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>with. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>find. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>actually > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> session, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>hours > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>pissed > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> up > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> that > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>vodka > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>set > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> those > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> do > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>the > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>could see > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. > >> >> >> >> >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked > >> >> >> >> >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a > >> >> >> >> >> bottle. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond > >> >> >> >> >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of > >> >> >> >> >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. > >> >> >> >> >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it > >> >> >> >> >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Same goes for Scotch! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Yep, it used to be Australian scotch was 37% and Scotch > >> >> >> >Scotch was 40%. Easy to spot the difference, now you have > >> >> >> >to do some research if you want to avoid the C&N. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Actually, for me, it is the alcohol content that matters to me! > >> >> > > >> >> >Oh yeah, but back then the C&N was the weaker stuff. So it > >> >> >was a real quandry, cheaper scotch, but less % v's less cheaper > >> >> >scotch, but with higher %.... > >> >> > > >> >> The false economy thing. > >> > > >> >But thankfully, the government, made the one correct decision in my > >> >entire life and rasied all scotch to 40%.... Ya. Now they just need > >> >to do it with the rest of the spirit family to make it all even. > >> > > >> It is embarrassing in teh bottle shop when you have to check teh > >> alcohol content before you buy!! > > > >Well now with scotch, you don't have to worry about that. > > > The Scotch Marketing Board must have bribed the Government. I think they lobbied them for quiet awhile to get it done, even playing field kind of thing. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:41:43 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97tgai$8fl$11@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97jopv$fsv$14@intimidator.databasix.com> <0pgr9tgfe46oob4uibd2gu1bomiqshucoi@4ax.com> <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <8k1s9t4bke6qipkh8d2hsqjniie5do0ns1@4ax.com> <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3170atk9f6el59t03pvk0r11uru4 Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried > >> >> >> >and hopefully never will. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am sorry > >> >> >> for bringing it up! > >> >> > > >> >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it will stop > >> >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. > >> >> > > >> >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. > >> > > >> >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed anyway. > >> > > >> An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. > > > >And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after > >drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. > > > Same goes for guns and rifles. Ah, I'm not a gun kind of person. Any dick can shoot you when they are pissed off. And not take it back later when they sover up. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Booting error of making vxWorks image file at T2 project ficilities Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 17:28:32 GMT From: "GuruDev" Organization: Road Runner Message-ID: <4Xuo6.571$iB4.1219480@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net> References: <96thb2$34o$1@news.nuri.net> did you remove -g option from ccXXX option. By default that is present. I also had same problem before. - -chacha "yessi" wrote in message news:96thb2$34o$1@news.nuri.net... > Hi, > I have a problem that is not booting when I make vxWorks image file in T2 > project facilitties. > In bootable project, vxWorks image file is not operating. > > ----------------------------------------------- > boot device : cpm > unit number : 0 > processor number : 0 > host name : yessi > file name : C:\Twork\proj\boot018\default\vxWorks > inet on ethernet (e) : 10.1.1.200:ffffff00 > host inet (h) : 10.1.1.100 > user (u) : a > ftp password (pw) : a > flags (f) : 0x8 > target name (tn) : jupiter > > Attaching network interface cpm0... done. > Attaching network interface lo0... done. > Loading... 749616 > Starting at 0x10000... (at this point, procedure stop and CPU is fail) > -------------------------------------------------- > Why is not operated ? > > But at Build TAB - Standard BSP Builds vxWorks image file is good operating. > > Please give me solution. I look forward to your kindness. > Thanks for reading. > > From : Si-young yun > E-mail : yessi@wooritg.com yessi@hanmir.com > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 08:12:59 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97joh0$fsv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kohg$3si$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcnl$rbg$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <03kt9t0cfhu9k6lc8n40if6tfob7vu43st@4ax.com> <3a9f1767.f400e@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nsvn$42o$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg25$8fl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:37:09 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:40:52 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >STFGP wrote: >> > >> >> Optional Identity wrote: Nothing. >> >> >> >> > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:02 >> >> > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> > alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> > >> >> > >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:06:27 >> >> > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> > >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 >> >> > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a >> >> > >> >> >> >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers >> >> > >> >> >> >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have >> >> > >> >> >> >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and >> >> > >> >> >> >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured >> >> > >> >> >> >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few >> >> > >> >> >> >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try >> >> > >> >> >> anything to succeed, by now. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would >> >> > >> >> >be surprised if they don't make the final 8. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> It is about time they did, but they won't win the Grand Final! >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >I doubt they would, but a lot of people would love it if they did. >> >> > >> >By beating an interstate team or the bombers. >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> True, but all those people are wrong! >> >> > > >> >> > >Why so? >> >> > > >> >> > Because if the Bombers can't win an Interstate team is the next best, >> >> > preferably the Swans! >> >> >> >> NO That is just plain wrong. And for your own safety, don't ever >> >> say that in a Victorian Pub. Intersate teams are just fine, as long as >> >> they don't win the grand final...... >> >> And definately not the Swans. When the were in the Grand Final, all >> >> of Sydney were so up themselve, not cause the gave a shit about the >> >> match, just cause they had a chance to beat Victoria in their own game, >> >> and didn't they shut the fuck up after the Swans lost. And when >> >> Victoria beat them at their own game and the Storm won... HAHAHA. >> > >> That was nearly as much fun as when The Raiders did it 2 years in a >> row. I knew suggesting the Swans should win would upset you. YHBT. > >EABOS. >I was going for the raiders when they won, then I went for the broncos >when the started and they won, then I went for the storm and they won. >I have the magic touch. I don't go for the swans, so they wont win. > They won't win because they are shit, which is why you don't go for them. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 08:13:33 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97koiq$3si$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr8j$jv$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcod$rbg$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1794.cdebf@newton.pacific.net.au> <3uau9to7kvja1nvf8aq8bt0j4ccgm9g7gb@4ax.com> <97nt0t$42o$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg4r$8fl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:38:27 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:41:32 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:47:17 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:44 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:52:54 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Are there? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Then there are those who don't like me. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Who wouldn't lik you? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> The same people who don't like you, I guess. I.e. fuckkkheads! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Argh. Yes, those pesky fuckheads. >> >> >> > >> >> >> A lot of them reside in alt.flame >> >> > >> >> >Yeah, well then thankfully I don't see them that often. >> >> > >> >> It is better that way! >> > >> >Though a few of them seem to pay attention to us! >> > >> Fuck knows why they care, jealousy? > >Stupidity? But I gotta say, I do feel loved right now. > That is important! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 08:14:20 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <10c5atku0m9q2ib1o6b61m60sqgjep1ilb@4ax.com> References: <97kojt$3si$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr9u$jv$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f1s9tceb1gdtsvfqk9tato69t5e2ibpl2@4ax.com> <97mcql$3jf$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f17c7.d0ac6@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt2o$42o$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg6d$8fl$9@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:39:22 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:42:32 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:48:08 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:58:55 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that >> >> >> >> >not everyone is as luck as me. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I suggest counseling! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle >> >> >> >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your >> >> >> >not happy. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? >> >> > >> >> >Yes, cures all your ills. Come one, come all. >> >> > >> >> Get your bottle here, roll up roll up! >> > >> >And it will make you more attractive, a better dancer, singer, >> >lover and pool player. >> > >> No one would ever complain about being a better pool player! > >I refuse to play pool now. My game, which was never great has >gone downhhill the last few months. > Just because you are crap is no excuse, it has never stopped me from playing. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 08:15:40 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97kop6$3si$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krda$jv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcvm$3jf$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1842.8df59@newton.pacific.net.au> <14bu9t0u3rt2c4eh0b58h1mpbkemljkpfu@4ax.com> <97nt4a$42o$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <6r60atk16a5t4k2sp6ho5aju2vibpmf5tc@4ax.com> <97tg81$8fl$10@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:40:24 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> live >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>find. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>actually >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> session, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>hours >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>pissed >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> up >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>vodka >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>set >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> those >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> do >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>could see >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. >> >> >> >> >> >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked >> >> >> >> >> >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a >> >> >> >> >> >> bottle. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond >> >> >> >> >> >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of >> >> >> >> >> >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. >> >> >> >> >> >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it >> >> >> >> >> >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Same goes for Scotch! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Yep, it used to be Australian scotch was 37% and Scotch >> >> >> >> >Scotch was 40%. Easy to spot the difference, now you have >> >> >> >> >to do some research if you want to avoid the C&N. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Actually, for me, it is the alcohol content that matters to me! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Oh yeah, but back then the C&N was the weaker stuff. So it >> >> >> >was a real quandry, cheaper scotch, but less % v's less cheaper >> >> >> >scotch, but with higher %.... >> >> >> > >> >> >> The false economy thing. >> >> > >> >> >But thankfully, the government, made the one correct decision in my >> >> >entire life and rasied all scotch to 40%.... Ya. Now they just need >> >> >to do it with the rest of the spirit family to make it all even. >> >> > >> >> It is embarrassing in teh bottle shop when you have to check teh >> >> alcohol content before you buy!! >> > >> >Well now with scotch, you don't have to worry about that. >> > >> The Scotch Marketing Board must have bribed the Government. > >I think they lobbied them for quiet awhile to get it done, even playing >field kind of thing. > I am surprised the others haven't cited the precedent. And whose idea was it to change from 750ml bottles to 700? That extra 50mls makes all the difference! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 08:16:24 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <24c5atktd61dv54sma1mc4rlsibbkuths0@4ax.com> References: <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <8k1s9t4bke6qipkh8d2hsqjniie5do0ns1@4ax.com> <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3170atk9f6el59t03pvk0r11uru4fpaule@4ax.com> <97tgai$8fl$11@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:41:43 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried >> >> >> >> >and hopefully never will. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am sorry >> >> >> >> for bringing it up! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it will stop >> >> >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. >> >> >> > >> >> >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. >> >> > >> >> >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed anyway. >> >> > >> >> An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. >> > >> >And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after >> >drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. >> > >> Same goes for guns and rifles. > >Ah, I'm not a gun kind of person. Any dick can shoot you when >they are pissed off. And not take it back later when they sover up. > Exactly, and heavy machinery. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: re: network initialization Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:19:17 +0900 From: matsuda.mitsuhiro@h-kokusai.com Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <97upc5$if7$1@overload.lbl.gov> >> I have a very simple question, >> when I boot my target over the network, the network interface is correctly >> initilaised. >> when I boot my target from a local hard drive I do not have the network. >> Does any body knows which function to call to initialize the network when >> booting from loacl hard drive ?????? >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> Francois You may put a network device name at the "others" field on boot parameter. cf. others: ei VxWorks will automatically initialize the network interface. --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:39:40 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97uqcm$d59$8@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97joh0$fsv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kohg$3si$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcnl$rbg$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <03kt9t0cfhu9k6lc8n40if6tfob7vu43st@4ax.com> <3a9f1767.f400e@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nsvn$42o$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg25$8fl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:37:09 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:40:52 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >STFGP wrote: > >> > > >> >> Optional Identity wrote: Nothing. > >> >> > >> >> > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:02 > >> >> > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> > alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > > >> >> > >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:06:27 > >> >> > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 > >> >> > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured > >> >> > >> >> >> >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few > >> >> > >> >> >> >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try > >> >> > >> >> >> anything to succeed, by now. > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would > >> >> > >> >> >be surprised if they don't make the final 8. > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> It is about time they did, but they won't win the Grand Final! > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> >I doubt they would, but a lot of people would love it if they did. > >> >> > >> >By beating an interstate team or the bombers. > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> True, but all those people are wrong! > >> >> > > > >> >> > >Why so? > >> >> > > > >> >> > Because if the Bombers can't win an Interstate team is the next best, > >> >> > preferably the Swans! > >> >> > >> >> NO That is just plain wrong. And for your own safety, don't ever > >> >> say that in a Victorian Pub. Intersate teams are just fine, as long as > >> >> they don't win the grand final...... > >> >> And definately not the Swans. When the were in the Grand Final, all > >> >> of Sydney were so up themselve, not cause the gave a shit about the > >> >> match, just cause they had a chance to beat Victoria in their own game, > >> >> and didn't they shut the fuck up after the Swans lost. And when > >> >> Victoria beat them at their own game and the Storm won... HAHAHA. > >> > > >> That was nearly as much fun as when The Raiders did it 2 years in a > >> row. I knew suggesting the Swans should win would upset you. YHBT. > > > >EABOS. > >I was going for the raiders when they won, then I went for the broncos > >when the started and they won, then I went for the storm and they won. > >I have the magic touch. I don't go for the swans, so they wont win. > > > They won't win because they are shit, which is why you don't go for > them. No, as you pointed out. I'm not from there (there a good band) and I don't like 'em. And them being sucky is an added bonus. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:40:25 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97uqe3$d59$9@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97koiq$3si$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr8j$jv$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcod$rbg$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1794.cdebf@newton.pacific.net.au> <3uau9to7kvja1nvf8aq8bt0j4ccgm9g7gb@4ax.com> <97nt0t$42o$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg4r$8fl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:38:27 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:41:32 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:47:17 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:44 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:52:54 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 > >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Are there? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Then there are those who don't like me. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Who wouldn't lik you? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> The same people who don't like you, I guess. I.e. fuckkkheads! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Argh. Yes, those pesky fuckheads. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> A lot of them reside in alt.flame > >> >> > > >> >> >Yeah, well then thankfully I don't see them that often. > >> >> > > >> >> It is better that way! > >> > > >> >Though a few of them seem to pay attention to us! > >> > > >> Fuck knows why they care, jealousy? > > > >Stupidity? But I gotta say, I do feel loved right now. > > > That is important! Oh yeah. Everyone needs to feel the love and support of all my usenet brethren. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:42:23 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97uqhs$d59$11@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97kop6$3si$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krda$jv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcvm$3jf$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1842.8df59@newton.pacific.net.au> <14bu9t0u3rt2c4eh0b58h1mpbkemljkpfu@4ax.com> <97nt4a$42o$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <6r60atk16a5t4k2sp6ho5aju2vibpmf5tc@4ax.com> <97tg81$8fl$10@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:40:24 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> live > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>with. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>find. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>actually > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> session, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>hours > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>pissed > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> up > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> that > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>vodka > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>set > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> those > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> do > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>the > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>could see > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked > >> >> >> >> >> >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a > >> >> >> >> >> >> bottle. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond > >> >> >> >> >> >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of > >> >> >> >> >> >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. > >> >> >> >> >> >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it > >> >> >> >> >> >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Same goes for Scotch! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Yep, it used to be Australian scotch was 37% and Scotch > >> >> >> >> >Scotch was 40%. Easy to spot the difference, now you have > >> >> >> >> >to do some research if you want to avoid the C&N. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Actually, for me, it is the alcohol content that matters to me! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Oh yeah, but back then the C&N was the weaker stuff. So it > >> >> >> >was a real quandry, cheaper scotch, but less % v's less cheaper > >> >> >> >scotch, but with higher %.... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> The false economy thing. > >> >> > > >> >> >But thankfully, the government, made the one correct decision in my > >> >> >entire life and rasied all scotch to 40%.... Ya. Now they just need > >> >> >to do it with the rest of the spirit family to make it all even. > >> >> > > >> >> It is embarrassing in teh bottle shop when you have to check teh > >> >> alcohol content before you buy!! > >> > > >> >Well now with scotch, you don't have to worry about that. > >> > > >> The Scotch Marketing Board must have bribed the Government. > > > >I think they lobbied them for quiet awhile to get it done, even playing > >field kind of thing. > > > I am surprised the others haven't cited the precedent. And whose idea > was it to change from 750ml bottles to 700? That extra 50mls makes all > the difference! I'd almost forgot about that. Just another way to rip us off. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:41:26 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97uqg0$d59$10@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97kojt$3si$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr9u$jv$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f1s9tceb1gdtsvfqk9tato69t5e2ibpl2@4ax.com> <97mcql$3jf$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f17c7.d0ac6@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt2o$42o$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg6d$8fl$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <10c5atku0m9q2ib1o6b61m60sqgjep Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:39:22 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:42:32 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:48:08 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:58:55 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 > >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that > >> >> >> >> >not everyone is as luck as me. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> I suggest counseling! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle > >> >> >> >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your > >> >> >> >not happy. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? > >> >> > > >> >> >Yes, cures all your ills. Come one, come all. > >> >> > > >> >> Get your bottle here, roll up roll up! > >> > > >> >And it will make you more attractive, a better dancer, singer, > >> >lover and pool player. > >> > > >> No one would ever complain about being a better pool player! > > > >I refuse to play pool now. My game, which was never great has > >gone downhhill the last few months. > > > Just because you are crap is no excuse, it has never stopped me from > playing. I hate getting beaten by Rob, he sucks too. When I was just bad, I could live with that, but I get beaten when I know I should win. That sucks too much. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:43:00 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <97uqiv$d59$12@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <8k1s9t4bke6qipkh8d2hsqjniie5do0ns1@4ax.com> <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3170atk9f6el59t03pvk0r11uru4fpaule@4ax.com> <97tgai$8fl$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <24c5atktd61dv54sma1mc4rlsibb Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:41:43 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried > >> >> >> >> >and hopefully never will. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am sorry > >> >> >> >> for bringing it up! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it will stop > >> >> >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. > >> >> > > >> >> >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed anyway. > >> >> > > >> >> An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. > >> > > >> >And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after > >> >drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. > >> > > >> Same goes for guns and rifles. > > > >Ah, I'm not a gun kind of person. Any dick can shoot you when > >they are pissed off. And not take it back later when they sover up. > > > Exactly, and heavy machinery. Or cars, people should be more responsible. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 15:11:08 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97kohg$3si$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcnl$rbg$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <03kt9t0cfhu9k6lc8n40if6tfob7vu43st@4ax.com> <3a9f1767.f400e@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nsvn$42o$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg25$8fl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqcm$d59$8@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:39:40 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:37:09 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:40:52 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >STFGP wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Optional Identity wrote: Nothing. >> >> >> >> >> >> > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:02 >> >> >> > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> > alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:06:27 >> >> >> > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> > >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 >> >> >> > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured >> >> >> > >> >> >> >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few >> >> >> > >> >> >> >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try >> >> >> > >> >> >> anything to succeed, by now. >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would >> >> >> > >> >> >be surprised if they don't make the final 8. >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> It is about time they did, but they won't win the Grand Final! >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> >I doubt they would, but a lot of people would love it if they did. >> >> >> > >> >By beating an interstate team or the bombers. >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> True, but all those people are wrong! >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >Why so? >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Because if the Bombers can't win an Interstate team is the next best, >> >> >> > preferably the Swans! >> >> >> >> >> >> NO That is just plain wrong. And for your own safety, don't ever >> >> >> say that in a Victorian Pub. Intersate teams are just fine, as long as >> >> >> they don't win the grand final...... >> >> >> And definately not the Swans. When the were in the Grand Final, all >> >> >> of Sydney were so up themselve, not cause the gave a shit about the >> >> >> match, just cause they had a chance to beat Victoria in their own game, >> >> >> and didn't they shut the fuck up after the Swans lost. And when >> >> >> Victoria beat them at their own game and the Storm won... HAHAHA. >> >> > >> >> That was nearly as much fun as when The Raiders did it 2 years in a >> >> row. I knew suggesting the Swans should win would upset you. YHBT. >> > >> >EABOS. >> >I was going for the raiders when they won, then I went for the broncos >> >when the started and they won, then I went for the storm and they won. >> >I have the magic touch. I don't go for the swans, so they wont win. >> > >> They won't win because they are shit, which is why you don't go for >> them. > >No, as you pointed out. I'm not from there (there a good band) and >I don't like 'em. And them being sucky is an added bonus. > They are a good band. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 15:11:49 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <4f46atg6dtng1u9385ra4uncvgi3mbkv97@4ax.com> References: <97kr8j$jv$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcod$rbg$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1794.cdebf@newton.pacific.net.au> <3uau9to7kvja1nvf8aq8bt0j4ccgm9g7gb@4ax.com> <97nt0t$42o$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg4r$8fl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqe3$d59$9@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:40:25 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:38:27 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:41:32 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:47:17 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:44 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:52:54 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Are there? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Then there are those who don't like me. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Who wouldn't lik you? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> The same people who don't like you, I guess. I.e. fuckkkheads! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Argh. Yes, those pesky fuckheads. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> A lot of them reside in alt.flame >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Yeah, well then thankfully I don't see them that often. >> >> >> > >> >> >> It is better that way! >> >> > >> >> >Though a few of them seem to pay attention to us! >> >> > >> >> Fuck knows why they care, jealousy? >> > >> >Stupidity? But I gotta say, I do feel loved right now. >> > >> That is important! > >Oh yeah. Everyone needs to feel the love and support of >all my usenet brethren. > And those guys are teh acest at love and support! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 15:13:11 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97kr9u$jv$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f1s9tceb1gdtsvfqk9tato69t5e2ibpl2@4ax.com> <97mcql$3jf$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f17c7.d0ac6@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt2o$42o$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg6d$8fl$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <10c5atku0m9q2ib1o6b61m60sqgjep1ilb@4ax.com> <97uqg0$d59$10@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:41:26 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:39:22 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:42:32 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:48:08 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:58:55 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that >> >> >> >> >> >not everyone is as luck as me. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> I suggest counseling! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle >> >> >> >> >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your >> >> >> >> >not happy. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Yes, cures all your ills. Come one, come all. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Get your bottle here, roll up roll up! >> >> > >> >> >And it will make you more attractive, a better dancer, singer, >> >> >lover and pool player. >> >> > >> >> No one would ever complain about being a better pool player! >> > >> >I refuse to play pool now. My game, which was never great has >> >gone downhhill the last few months. >> > >> Just because you are crap is no excuse, it has never stopped me from >> playing. > >I hate getting beaten by Rob, he sucks too. When I was just bad, I >could live with that, but I get beaten when I know I should win. That >sucks too much. > Your ability doesn't match what you know should be done? - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 15:14:46 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97krda$jv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcvm$3jf$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1842.8df59@newton.pacific.net.au> <14bu9t0u3rt2c4eh0b58h1mpbkemljkpfu@4ax.com> <97nt4a$42o$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <6r60atk16a5t4k2sp6ho5aju2vibpmf5tc@4ax.com> <97tg81$8fl$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqhs$d59$11@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:42:23 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:40:24 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> live >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>find. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>actually >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> session, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>hours >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>pissed >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> up >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>vodka >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>set >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> those >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> do >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>could see >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked >> >> >> >> >> >> >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a >> >> >> >> >> >> >> bottle. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond >> >> >> >> >> >> >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of >> >> >> >> >> >> >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it >> >> >> >> >> >> >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Same goes for Scotch! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Yep, it used to be Australian scotch was 37% and Scotch >> >> >> >> >> >Scotch was 40%. Easy to spot the difference, now you have >> >> >> >> >> >to do some research if you want to avoid the C&N. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Actually, for me, it is the alcohol content that matters to me! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Oh yeah, but back then the C&N was the weaker stuff. So it >> >> >> >> >was a real quandry, cheaper scotch, but less % v's less cheaper >> >> >> >> >scotch, but with higher %.... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> The false economy thing. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >But thankfully, the government, made the one correct decision in my >> >> >> >entire life and rasied all scotch to 40%.... Ya. Now they just need >> >> >> >to do it with the rest of the spirit family to make it all even. >> >> >> > >> >> >> It is embarrassing in teh bottle shop when you have to check teh >> >> >> alcohol content before you buy!! >> >> > >> >> >Well now with scotch, you don't have to worry about that. >> >> > >> >> The Scotch Marketing Board must have bribed the Government. >> > >> >I think they lobbied them for quiet awhile to get it done, even playing >> >field kind of thing. >> > >> I am surprised the others haven't cited the precedent. And whose idea >> was it to change from 750ml bottles to 700? That extra 50mls makes all >> the difference! > >I'd almost forgot about that. Just another way to rip us off. > It sucks, I got a 1100ml bottle of Slolichnaya for $9.50 duty free when I went OS. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 15:15:57 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <8k1s9t4bke6qipkh8d2hsqjniie5do0ns1@4ax.com> <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3170atk9f6el59t03pvk0r11uru4fpaule@4ax.com> <97tgai$8fl$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <24c5atktd61dv54sma1mc4rlsibbkuths0@4ax.com> <97uqiv$d59$12@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:43:00 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:41:43 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried >> >> >> >> >> >and hopefully never will. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am sorry >> >> >> >> >> for bringing it up! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it will stop >> >> >> >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed anyway. >> >> >> > >> >> >> An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. >> >> > >> >> >And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after >> >> >drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. >> >> > >> >> Same goes for guns and rifles. >> > >> >Ah, I'm not a gun kind of person. Any dick can shoot you when >> >they are pissed off. And not take it back later when they sover up. >> > >> Exactly, and heavy machinery. > >Or cars, people should be more responsible. > They should, or they shouldn't be allowed to drink. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: tffs on PPMC750 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:10:39 +0530 From: "Venkatesh JS" Organization: Motorola Message-ID: <97v84r$7i$1@newshost.mot.com> hi. Has any one tried including TFFS component on PPMC750 board ? I have MTD and socket layer code for AMD series NOR flash devices which holds good for flash device on PPMC750 card(Am29DL323C). This MTD uses Common Flash Interface(CFI) to program the flash. We can get device and manufacturer details from flash device by sending some command sequences on some specified address(Given in Command defination tables in AMD product literature). But my code fails to get this detail. After writing command sequences , when i try to read the result i am not able to get any valid information. My MTD code uses this logic to write command sequence: WriteCmdSequence(FLASH_BASE_ADRS,0x00aa00aa, 0x555) { adrs = FLASH_BASE_ADRS + 8 * (0x555); *adrs = 0x00aa00aa; } Here 0x00aa00aa is command sequence defined by AMD and 0x555 is address specified by AMD product guide. I have given flash base address as 0xfff00000. Does any one know how solve this problem ? After a recent suggestion, i tried writing into PPMC750 mapped addresses for flash address.(Given in PPMC750 programmers manual). that is if flash address is 0x000555, then i wrote at 0xff000d55 etc. This also did not work. Any ideas on this ? regds, venkat --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: network initialization Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 01:25:20 -0500 From: Anonymous Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 80,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Message-ID: References: <97lsjm$au2$1@overload.lbl.gov> In article <97lsjm$au2$1@overload.lbl.gov>, f.pertin@staubli.com wrote: > Does any body knows which function to call to initialize the network when > booting from loacl hard drive ?????? > When you boot from network, you are specifying a network device like lnPci or dc or something else (depends on your ethernet driver). When you boot from local hard drive, you should be setting this to scsi=0,0. In the "other" field (the last boot option), specify the ethernet network device (lnPci, dc, etc). The network will come up after the vxWorks loads from disk. --------== Posted Anonymously via Newsfeeds.Com ==------- Featuring the worlds only Anonymous Usenet Server -----------== http://www.newsfeeds.com ==---------- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: network initialization Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 07:43:53 GMT From: lourens@mecalc.co.za (Lourens Geldenhuys) Organization: Mecalc (Pty) Ltd Message-ID: <3aa34253.2372801@modem.mecalc> References: <97lsjm$au2$1@overload.lbl.gov> Reply-To: lourens@mecalc.co.za Another question. We do this in our system (specify the network device in the "other" field). It works fine so long as the system is connected to the network (UTP cable plugged in). If the system is not connected to the network, network initialisation fails. What methods can you suggest to auto-initialise the network later on when the UTP cable is connected while the system is running? Regards, Lourens On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:02:03 -0500, "Tom Dropka" wrote: >Refer to p. 204 of the "VxWorks 5.4 Programmer's Guide." > >You need to add the network device name to the "other" field in the boot >parameters. Look in the function usrNetInit() to see how it's done (search >for the string "booting from disk" in >/target/src/config/usrNetworks.c). > > wrote in message >news:97lsjm$au2$1@overload.lbl.gov... >> Hello VXWORKS and TORNADO guru, >> >> I have a very simple question, >> when I boot my target over the network, the network interface is correctly >> initilaised. >> when I boot my target from a local hard drive I do not have the network. >> Does any body knows which function to call to initialize the network when >> booting from loacl hard drive ?????? >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> Francois >> > > ================================================================ Lourens Geldenhuys Tel: +27 (0)12 665 1480 Project Engineer Fax: +27 (0)12 665 1495 Mecalc (Pty) Ltd e-mail: lourens@mecalc.co.za 86 Oak Avenue, Highveld Technopark, Centurion, South Africa ================================================================ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VXWTask vs task lifecycle Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 09:05:06 GMT From: daune@iba.be (Jean-François Daune) Organization: KPNQwest customer news service Message-ID: <3aa353e3.3178680@news.belgium.eu.net> Hi all, I use VXWTask class in my application, and the WRS documentation provides no information about the lifecycle of a VXWTask object vs the lifecycle of its associated VxWorks task (A comparison of both). I am concerned by the task deletion. I wonder what is the state of the VXWTask object when the task completes (entry function returns) or is deleted from the WindShell (using td). I also wonder if the object is deleted by the OS (i.e, ~VXWTask stops the task, but does the reciprocal relationship exist ?), or if I have to free the resources myself (i.e., call the destructor) ? Any help is welcome. Thanks & Regards, Jean-François Daune --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: interrupt controller 8259 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:07:38 +0100 From: "frees" Message-ID: <97vl0r$r8pb6$1@ID-78468.news.dfncis.de> VxWorks for Intel systems contains the function i8259IntBoi to handle "spurious interrupts". If this function is called by vxworks (increments counter sysStrayIntCount), the master interrupt controller is not resettet (missing EOI to I/O-Port 0x20) and the system does not accept further interrupts. Does anyone know this problem and has any advice? Wolfgang Frees --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Any form of sleep mode in VxWorks?? Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:31:23 +0100 From: "zz Fa.NewlinkSystems01" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <97vlg4$cj$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows whether VxWorks has any form of deep sleep mode. We have a customer who wants to be able to go into a power saving mode whereby the chip will be put to sleep and the system shut down gracefully to a known state, after a period of inactivity. They then wanted to be able to wake up the system resume from a known running state if feasible. Anyone know if VxWorks provides any functionality like this??? Thanks, Dave. - ----------------------------------------------------------- This Mail has been checked for Viruses Attention: Encrypted Mails can NOT be checked ! *** Diese Mail wurde auf Viren ueberprueft Hinweis: Verschluesselte Mails koennen NICHT geprueft werden! - ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Is the copied SDRAM version of VxWorks preserved Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:36:26 +0100 From: "zz Fa.NewlinkSystems01" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <97vlg5$ck$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi, If VxWorks starts from flash and uncompresses a version of itself to the SDRAM and then runs from there, if this version preserved over the lifetime of the runnning system. The reason that I ask was I wondered whether it was possible to write a special boot loader that will restart from this version of VxWorks to save on time (recopying and uncompressing the image). I just wasnt sure whether this version would still be accessible and whether it would have been altered by the process of running it the first time. Any thoughts and suggestions as always gratefully received. Thanks, Dave. - ----------------------------------------------------------- This Mail has been checked for Viruses Attention: Encrypted Mails can NOT be checked ! *** Diese Mail wurde auf Viren ueberprueft Hinweis: Verschluesselte Mails koennen NICHT geprueft werden! - ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:56:09 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4do$htj$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <3obp9t4llods18sb05qrueng9t0qgifh96@4ax.com> <97jos1$fsv$15@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kotb$3si$10@intimidator.databasix.com> > wrote in message <97oa56$432$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... >Dave Korn wrote: > >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> <3a9f158c.b5ab8@newton.pacific.net.au>... >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:12:42 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:05:54 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I >> drink alot then >> >> >> >> >> >> >smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do >> this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly >> pissed, it just makes >> >> >> >> >> >> >me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive >> yogic training >> >> >> >> >> >> >to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke >> yourself stupid without >> >> >> >> >> >> >pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is >> rewarding in >> >> >> >> >> >> >and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated >> to both. I >> >> >> >> >> >> >still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and >> then drink. A >> >> >> >> >> >> >couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh >> hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with >> the hangover or >> >> >> >> >> >> >just >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you >> insist, even if >> >> >> >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without >> smoking, and >> >> >> >> >> >> >will >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do >> want too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. >> :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. >> You >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > I'll help ya with that spare one! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No problem Dave! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >You leave spare drinks lying around? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> No that was the one I got for you, that you couldn't have >> because you >> >> >> >> >> were driving. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Oh... Woo. Thanks for clearing that up. I was nearly about to >> drop all >> >> >> >> >communications with you. It was nice of you to give it to DaveK, >> though >> >> >> >> >personally I would have drank it myself if I was you. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> So would I, but he promised the next shout, and we kept drinking, >> and >> >> >> >> I eventually woke up in a dumpster, but hey it was a great night! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >It has to have been a good night if you woke up in a dumpster. Did >> you >> >> >> >end up with a traffic cone? >> >> >> > >> >> >> It was a stop sign this time, the whole thing sign, pole and lump of >> >> >> concrete. I wish I could remember how that happened! >> >> > >> >> >Check your house for a pick.... Or a nieghbourhood car for panel >> damage. >> >> > >> >> I guess it must have been Dave K's car! >> > >> >What? He won't post in our threads, but he's off getting pissed with you, >> >drink driving and shit... >> >> AAAAAAARRRGHA OHMYGODITWASAWFUL ITELLYOU AWFULAAAAARRRGH I've just been >> through the most terrifying Usenet experience ever. >> >> Something went wrong with the feed to and from my server. It was like >> being trapped in a cave or mine when the entrance tunnel collapses. There >> were hundreds of us, trapped in there. We were desparate to call for help, >> but nobody could get a message in or out to the outside world. Cut off from >> outside existence, nothing but the sound of our own posts echoing around in >> the dark, wondering how long it would be before rescue came. Some turned to >> cannibalism, others jumped into the bottomless pits in despair, only the >> mentally tough were able to survive... >> >> I'm deeply traumatised. I think I need a drink. Fortunately I'm off down >> to London this evening to go on a major pissup with a bunch of old mates >> from way back when, so I should have recovered my aplomb by the end of the >> weekend :) >> >> DaveK > >So that's where you been.... I was just about to claim spank on you. >Oh well, I'll have to try on someone else. Have fun. Heh. I did :) DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:01:25 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <97kojt$3si$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kr9u$jv$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f1s9tceb1gdtsvfqk9tato69t5e2ibpl2@4ax.com> <97mcql$3jf$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f17c7.d0ac6@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt2o$42o$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg6d$8fl$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <10c5atku0m9q2ib1o6b61m60sqgjep Optional Identity wrote in message <10c5atku0m9q2ib1o6b61m60sqgjep1ilb@4ax.com>... >According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:39:22 >+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >alt.usenet.kooks : > >>Optional Identity wrote: >> >>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:42:32 >>> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>> alt.usenet.kooks : >>> >>> >Optional Identity wrote: >>> > >>> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:48:08 >>> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:58:55 >>> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 >>> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 >>> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 >>> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that >>> >> >> >> >not everyone is as luck as me. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> I suggest counseling! >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle >>> >> >> >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your >>> >> >> >not happy. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? >>> >> > >>> >> >Yes, cures all your ills. Come one, come all. >>> >> > >>> >> Get your bottle here, roll up roll up! >>> > >>> >And it will make you more attractive, a better dancer, singer, >>> >lover and pool player. >>> > >>> No one would ever complain about being a better pool player! >> >>I refuse to play pool now. My game, which was never great has >>gone downhhill the last few months. >> >Just because you are crap is no excuse, it has never stopped me from >playing. I always thought the object of the game was to rearrange the balls into interesting patterns on the table, getting marks for style grace elegance and bonus if you can get them to spell out a word... DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. >-- > >Optional Identity > >Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! >Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, >Hace you had your little death today? >N'est ce pas? >http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) >Skepticult Rank: Colonel >Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 >Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: CORBA-blocking on vxWorks Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:54:32 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <3A9F6FEA.E898ECAD@vs.dasa.de> <3AA03387.F644400E@voxware.com> Craig Vanderborgh wrote in message <3AA03387.F644400E@voxware.com>... >This appears to be a quite straightforward situation. Your CORBA >call is blocked on a binary sempahore, which it does not get. >The trouble is that some other thread is supposed to do a >"semGive" so that your CORBA call call can proceed. In my view, >this could only be caused by a synchronization bug in the >CORBA implementation, although I could be wrong. Take a look at the few items before the semBTake call: >> 2c249c read +10 : iosRead () >> 2c3938 iosRead +d0 : 30b758 () >> 30b7dc bsdRecv +1ac: soreceive () >> 32f24c soreceive +324: sbwait () >> 3305dc sbwait +2c : ksleep () >> 331398 ksleep +68 : semTake () >> 33d87c semTake +140: semBTake () We're way down in the VxWorks ioLib here, trying to read from a socket. The semaphore would presumably be given by the tNetTask when it receives a packet from the network driver and passes it through the muxer to the listening socket. So perhaps it's a sync error in CORBA and nothing is arriving, or perhaps the nettask has been blocked by a user task running at a higher priority, or perhaps something has trashed the io lib or network stack's private memory space, or perhaps the interrupts have got locked out, or ... endless possibilities. - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: re: Is the copied SDRAM version of VxWorks preserved Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:46:13 +0000 (GMT) From: David Laight Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <200103051346.NAA18996@dsl-2.tadpole.co.uk> In theory the code area is unchanged, however to re-execute it you would have to re-initialise all the static data. If the reason for the restart is some form of corruption, you cannot really assume that the uncompressed code and (copy of) the static data has not been corrupted. The uncompress from ROM shouldn't take very long. However WRS slug it by disabling the D and I caches for the duration. If you enable the caches (in romInit.s) and ensure they are flushed (top of sysLib.c - before any code is executed that hasn't been implicitly flushed by the uncompress) then you should get startup times of about 1 second (depending on other factors). David > If VxWorks starts from flash and uncompresses a version of itself to the > SDRAM and then runs from there, if this version preserved over the lifetime > of the runnning system. > > The reason that I ask was I wondered whether it was possible to write a > special boot loader that will restart from this version of VxWorks to save > on time (recopying and uncompressing the image). > > I just wasnt sure whether this version would still be accessible and whether > it would have been altered by the process of running it the first time. > > > > Any thoughts and suggestions as always gratefully received. > - ---------------------------------------------------------------- David Laight email: dsl@tadpole.co.uk Tadpole Technology plc phone: +44 1223 428 232 Cambridge, UK fax: +44 1223 428 201 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: re: Any form of sleep mode in VxWorks?? Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:08:54 +0000 (GMT) From: David Laight Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <200103051408.OAA19009@dsl-2.tadpole.co.uk> There is nothing in the standard vxWorks release, nor support in any of the standard device drivers. Suspending is simply a matter of saving all the cpu registers on the stack, and the SP and PC into some well known location - from where they can be reloaded on wakeup. However you will need some sleep/resume hooks into many device drivers - in order to re-initialise the hardware on resume. also you will need a lock to stop sleep happening at critical points in the drivers. David > > I was wondering if anyone knows whether VxWorks has any form of deep sleep > mode. > > We have a customer who wants to be able to go into a power saving mode > whereby the chip will be put to sleep and the system shut down gracefully to > a known state, after a period of inactivity. They then wanted to be able to > wake up the system resume from a known running state if feasible. > > > Anyone know if VxWorks provides any functionality like this??? - ---------------------------------------------------------------- David Laight email: dsl@tadpole.co.uk Tadpole Technology plc phone: +44 1223 428 232 Cambridge, UK fax: +44 1223 428 201 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Logging Stuff.. Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:51:09 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983804146.920836@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3A9ED0B1.8CA9D1D5@voxware.com> <983488019.760284@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <97p90f$3u7$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Hi, I did not use the pipe of VxWorks much for my projects. But I remember that it is somewhat non-standard It does not concatenate the pieces written into it, but rather works with blocks like the message queue does. When reading, you cannot read more than was written into the next block, but i think the rest will be lost. Maybe this is not accurate, but check it out before you start.. hth werner Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman) wrote in message news:97p90f$3u7$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com... > Or maybe you can write your own memShow by using memPartInfoGet(), that's > easier, at least for me. > > Yes, Werner's idea sounds good. Redirect it to a pipe when you call memShow > and change it back after you are done. Is it possible? > > Freeman > > Werner Schiendl wrote in message > news:983488019.760284@newsmaster-04.atnet.at... > > Craig, > > > > I would redirect the standard output to some device driver you can easily > > write yourself. > > You can redirect the standard output for an individual task or - if you > > think this is necessary - for the whole system. > > > > you could also use a ramdrive and create a file there, if you do not want > to > > write that driver. > > upload would be easier in this case if you use FTP for that > > > > hth > > werner > > > > Craig Vanderborgh wrote in message > > news:3A9ED0B1.8CA9D1D5@voxware.com... > > > Hi All: > > > > > > I'm interested in adding some logging facilities to our application, > > > and I'm trying to figure out the best way to deal with this problem: > > > > > > I'd like to be able to log output from things like memShow(), i(), > > > etc. However, the output from these VxWorks routines all goes to > > > stdout. What is the best way to get this kind of stuff into memory > > > so that it could be possibly formatted and uploaded to a server? > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > regards, > > > craig vanderborgh > > > voxware incorporated > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: RE: Any form of sleep mode in VxWorks?? Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:35:59 -0500 From: "David Bryan" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <980aj4$9of$1@overload.lbl.gov> > -----Original Message----- > I was wondering if anyone knows whether VxWorks has any form of deep sleep > mode. > > We have a customer who wants to be able to go into a power saving mode > whereby the chip will be put to sleep and the system shut down > gracefully to > a known state, after a period of inactivity. They then wanted to > be able to > wake up the system resume from a known running state if feasible. VxWorks only supports a 'power down' mode for the PPC architecture. Set the default power saving mode using vxPowerDownModeSet(). When the kernel is idle, the scheduler calls vxPowerDown() and the processor enters a power down state. Dave - -- ===================================================== T h e P T R G r o u p, I n c. ===================================================== David Bryan dave@ThePTRGroup.com www.ThePTRGroup.com Embedded, Real-Time Solutions ===================================================== --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VxWorks Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:21:24 -0800 (PST) From: richard garrick Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <980e3l$efu$1@overload.lbl.gov> Subject: Re: network initialization ********** From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Sun Mar 4 16:20:59 2001 From: matsuda.mitsuhiro@h-kokusai.com Date: Sun Mar 4 16:21:01 PST 2001 Subject: Re: network initialization >> I have a very simple question, >> when I boot my target over the network, the network interface is correctly >> initilaised. >> when I boot my target from a local hard drive I do not have the network. >> Does any body knows which function to call to initialize the network when >> booting from loacl hard drive ?????? >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> Francois > >You may put a network device name at the "others" >field on boot parameter. > cf. others: ei > >VxWorks will automatically initialize the network >interface. > Francois, You can also manually (or via program) invoke usrNetInit() to initiate your netowrking facilities. This is what I do when I need to bring up a target with a standalone symbol table and a shell on the console. In this situation, the vxWorks.st image does not initiate the networking facilities. If you use END supported network devices you must also make sure endDevTbl[] in configNet.h is loaded with the right devices. Does anybody know if there is an option to automatically bring up vxWorks on a target with a standalone symbol table and a shell on the console and initiate the networking facilities? Rick Garrick ===== Rick Garrick __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Is the copied SDRAM version of VxWorks preserved Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:38:13 +0000 From: Graham Baxter Organization: Graham Baxter (Software) Limited Message-ID: <3AA3C0F5.72770384@NOSPAM.bcs.org.uk> References: <97vlg5$ck$1@overload.lbl.gov> It will not necessarily still be there! On my system (PPC 8260 uncompressed), the boot code copies itself to RAM_HIGH_ADRS. The boot code downloads an application to RAM_LOW_ADRS. When the application starts the VxWorks is given the RAM from the end of the data to the end of the RAM which overlaps RAM_HIGH_ADRS. If you want the boot code preserved modify your BSP sysPhysMemTop() function to return RAM_HIGH_ADRS. Regards, Graham Baxter Freelance Software Engineer gbaxter@NOSPAM.bcs.org.uk "zz Fa.NewlinkSystems01" wrote: > > Hi, > > If VxWorks starts from flash and uncompresses a version of itself to the > SDRAM and then runs from there, if this version preserved over the lifetime > of the runnning system. > > The reason that I ask was I wondered whether it was possible to write a > special boot loader that will restart from this version of VxWorks to save > on time (recopying and uncompressing the image). > > I just wasnt sure whether this version would still be accessible and whether > it would have been altered by the process of running it the first time. > > Any thoughts and suggestions as always gratefully received. > > Thanks, > > Dave. > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > This Mail has been checked for Viruses > Attention: Encrypted Mails can NOT be checked ! > > *** > > Diese Mail wurde auf Viren ueberprueft > Hinweis: Verschluesselte Mails koennen NICHT geprueft werden! > ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Is the copied SDRAM version of VxWorks preserved Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:44:17 +0000 From: Graham Baxter Organization: Graham Baxter (Software) Limited Message-ID: <3AA3C261.3BA3BB8E@NOSPAM.bcs.org.uk> References: <97vlg5$ck$1@overload.lbl.gov> <3AA3C0F5.72770384@NOSPAM.bcs.org.uk> Or better use the USER_RESERVED_MEM macro. Graham Baxter wrote: > > It will not necessarily still be there! > > On my system (PPC 8260 uncompressed), the boot code copies itself to > RAM_HIGH_ADRS. > > The boot code downloads an application to RAM_LOW_ADRS. > > When the application starts the VxWorks is given the RAM from the end of > the data to the end of the RAM which overlaps RAM_HIGH_ADRS. > > If you want the boot code preserved modify your BSP sysPhysMemTop() > function to return RAM_HIGH_ADRS. > > Regards, > > Graham Baxter > Freelance Software Engineer > gbaxter@NOSPAM.bcs.org.uk > > "zz Fa.NewlinkSystems01" wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > If VxWorks starts from flash and uncompresses a version of itself to the > > SDRAM and then runs from there, if this version preserved over the lifetime > > of the runnning system. > > > > The reason that I ask was I wondered whether it was possible to write a > > special boot loader that will restart from this version of VxWorks to save > > on time (recopying and uncompressing the image). > > > > I just wasnt sure whether this version would still be accessible and whether > > it would have been altered by the process of running it the first time. > > > > Any thoughts and suggestions as always gratefully received. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dave. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > This Mail has been checked for Viruses > > Attention: Encrypted Mails can NOT be checked ! > > > > *** > > > > Diese Mail wurde auf Viren ueberprueft > > Hinweis: Verschluesselte Mails koennen NICHT geprueft werden! > > ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: bootrom on the PPC7400 Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:22:19 -0500 From: Todd Pepper Organization: Smiths Industries Aerospace Message-ID: <3AA3CB4B.7F9F522A@falcon.si.com> Reply-To: todd.pepper@si.com We have created a BSP for our board which runs fine with a PPC750. We have recently been trying to get the bootrom running on the same board with a PPC7400 but the bootrom will not load an image via ftp or tftp. Is anyone else having similar problems? We have added debug to our ethernet driver such that all data sent and received is stored off for analysis. We have compared this data to that captured on the ethernet and it matches up, bit for bit. A couple of ARPs go out, an ARP is responded, the card does a TCP to connect to the ftp port of the host, the host accepts with a SYN and ACK, but the card ignores this. It is received, but it almost appears as though the either the TCP/IP layer or the ftpLib is ignoring the incoming traffic as our driver does receive it. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. - -- Todd Pepper Digital Design Department Smiths Industries Aerospace 3290 Patterson Ave MS 3C2 Grand Rapids, Michigan 49512 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: loopback problems Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:25:58 -0600 From: tripp shelnutt Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=C4K?= Technologies Message-ID: <3AA3DA36.D04955@mak.com> to all, vxworks 5.3.1 mvme2700 i am having some problems with the software loopback. i create a UDP socket for reading/writing and bind to INADDR_ANY. when sending traffic unicast and multicast, the loopback appears to be working properly. when sending to a broadcast address, i recieve no loopback traffic. ifShow produces the following: dc (unit number 0): Flags: (0x8063) UP BROADCAST MULTICAST ARP RUNNING Type: ETHERNET_CSMACD Internet address: 10.0.3.37 Broadcast address: 10.255.255.255 Netmask 0xff000000 Subnetmask 0xff000000 Ethernet address is 08:00:3e:2f:9e:f3 Metric is 0 Maximum Transfer Unit size is 1500 14374139 packets received; 1009 packets sent 14373158 multicast packets received 64 multicast packets sent 0 input errors; 0 output errors 0 collisions; 0 dropped lo (unit number 0): Flags: (0x8069) UP LOOPBACK MULTICAST ARP RUNNING Type: SOFTWARE_LOOPBACK Internet address: 127.0.0.1 Netmask 0xff000000 Subnetmask 0xff000000 Metric is 0 Maximum Transfer Unit size is 32768 49 packets received; 49 packets sent 0 multicast packets received 0 multicast packets sent 0 input errors; 0 output errors 0 collisions; 0 dropped i looks to me like a BROADCAST parameter should be set in the flags for the loopback address, but i wasn't sure if that was correct/possible. how do i set these flags? are there any know problems with looping broadcast traffic? cheers. - -- Tripp Shelnutt Software Engineer --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:54:22 -0500 From: "C. Ritchie" Organization: University of Waterloo Message-ID: Hi, Anyone experience a memory leakage caused by the ULIP adapter when simulators run for a while? Thanks --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: vxworks.st and vxwork's project facility Date: 5 Mar 2001 19:18:44 +0100 From: bpatel@princetonoptical.com (Bhavesh Patel) Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: <3AA3D918.59B21FD6@princetonoptical.com> Hi, When I built a project under Tornado2.0 it creates the Makefile to built the "vxWorks" image. How do I modify the project facility to create a standalone vxworks image "vxWorks.st"? I am using Tornado2.0 for vxworks5.4 Your help is appreciated. bhavesh - -- Posted from 64-56-57-146.comcasttel.net [64.56.57.146] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Target connection lost Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:52:57 -0800 From: "Tan, Tat Kin" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <980ol4$k9b$1@overload.lbl.gov> vxWorks Hi VxWorkers... I need some helps. I tried to spawn a task on a simulator as below: - ->sp(testp) task spawned: id = 4b0c960, name = s1u2 value = 78694752 = 0x4b0c960 - -> ti NAME ENTRY TID PRI STATUS PC SP ERRNO DELAY - ---------- ------------ -------- --- ---------- -------- -------- ------- - ----- Target connection has been lost. Waiting for target server to attach to target (press CTRL+Break to stop) | where testp is a function to print 10000 line. I wonder what's wrong and can anyone explain to me what happen that cause lost of connection? Thanks a millions. with warm regards, Tat Kin TAN --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: prjConfig.c and kernelInit() Date: 5 Mar 2001 21:15:49 +0100 From: bpatel@princetonoptical.com (Bhavesh Patel) Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: <3AA3F498.5EF070D9@princetonoptical.com> Hi all, I am using the tornado project facility to build the custom bootable vxworks image. However if I look at the generated prjconfig.c file I DO NOT see the entry for "kernelInit()" which is responsible for spawning usrRoot according to vxworks programmer's manual. The question is - 1) IN which file is spawning of usrRoot coded? 2) In which file is call to "netLoad()" coded? 3) Also how do you set date and time on the target? Is there any other way besides using TCP/IP time service(37) from a remote unix server? Thanks. bhavesh patel - -- Posted from 64-56-57-146.comcasttel.net [64.56.57.146] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: vxworks.st and vxwork's project facility Date: 5 Mar 2001 20:17:43 GMT From: Johan Borkhuis Organization: Lucent Technologies, Nieuwegein NL Message-ID: <980s97$nn6$1@news1.xs4all.nl> References: <3AA3D918.59B21FD6@princetonoptical.com> Bhavesh Patel wrote: : Hi, : When I built a project under Tornado2.0 it creates the Makefile to built : the "vxWorks" image. How do I modify the project facility to create a : standalone vxworks image "vxWorks.st"? : I am using Tornado2.0 for vxworks5.4 : Your help is appreciated. Go to the Build tab, and select the properties of your build. Now select the Rules-tab where you can select the build type, in your case this will be the VxWorks, you get a pulldown list and you can select vxworks.st. Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . ______________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@lucent.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|___________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: re: VxWorks Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 15:43:40 -0500 From: Huang Wu Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <980vm3$nfk$1@overload.lbl.gov> vxworks/Tornado, I'm using the HSIWindRiver reference design which uses a PPMC755 and a carrier board. VxWorks image locates at the flash file system. After I edited the boot script (see below), I got the error message: VxWorks.bdx cannot be found. It seems to me this is a initial board setup problem. Can anyone show me some light here? Thanks Huang Wu Mosaid Technologies Inc. - ---------------------------- File System Sectors (256K each) = 8 > Boot Delay (seconds) = 5 > Boot Script = osboot VxWorks!go > osboot VxWorks.bdx!go MAC Address = 00-A0-1E-08-03-E3 > IP Address = 172.24.80.20 > Subnet Mask = 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway = 172.24.80.1 > Remote System 1 Name = mop474 > Remote System 1 IP = 172.24.64.187 > Remote System 2 Name = > Remote System 3 Name = > Remote System 4 Name = > Command Channel = 0: Serial > Save Changes (y/n)? yes >BKM> Wind River visionWARE v1.10 Wind River HSI +1(781) 828 5588 Build #2, 10/23/00 13:41:01 MAC : 00-A0-1E-08-03-E3 IP : 172.24.80.20 Type the shell command to set IP and/or MAC addresses Type the help command to see available commands Press a key in the next <5> seconds to preempt boot script Booting from script... osboot VxWorks.bdx!go Loading file VxWorks.bdx...error 1503C4: cannot find VxWorks.bdx Done --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 09:33:46 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <1058atc0hai3hbgbqn72vc6v0b0l96vb2f@4ax.com> References: <97kr9u$jv$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f1s9tceb1gdtsvfqk9tato69t5e2ibpl2@4ax.com> <97mcql$3jf$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f17c7.d0ac6@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt2o$42o$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg6d$8fl$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <10c5atku0m9q2ib1o6b61m60sqgjep1ilb@4ax.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:01:25 - -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote in message ><10c5atku0m9q2ib1o6b61m60sqgjep1ilb@4ax.com>... >>According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:39:22 >>+1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>alt.usenet.kooks : >> >>>Optional Identity wrote: >>> >>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:42:32 >>>> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>>> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>>> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>> >>>> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 >14:48:08 >>>> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>>> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>>> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>> >> >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 >07:58:55 >>>> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated >this >>>> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >of >>>> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 >17:53:36 >>>> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> >Expectorated this >>>> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the >aethyr of >>>> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar >2001 17:07:44 >>>> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> >Expectorated this >>>> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the >aethyr of >>>> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar >2001 08:01:19 >>>> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> >Expectorated this >>>> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the >aethyr of >>>> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to >drink single malt scotch, but I >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make >the cheap stuff taste good in >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on >that? >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean >dodge. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in >comparison. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and >have it taste like >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like >you! >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that >>>> >> >> >> >not everyone is as luck as me. >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> I suggest counseling! >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle >>>> >> >> >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your >>>> >> >> >not happy. >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? >>>> >> > >>>> >> >Yes, cures all your ills. Come one, come all. >>>> >> > >>>> >> Get your bottle here, roll up roll up! >>>> > >>>> >And it will make you more attractive, a better dancer, singer, >>>> >lover and pool player. >>>> > >>>> No one would ever complain about being a better pool player! >>> >>>I refuse to play pool now. My game, which was never great has >>>gone downhhill the last few months. >>> >>Just because you are crap is no excuse, it has never stopped me from >>playing. > > I always thought the object of the game was to rearrange the balls into >interesting patterns on the table, getting marks for style grace elegance >and bonus if you can get them to spell out a word... > > DaveK And double points for a rude word, triple if done with just one shot. It is made more difficult by the holes in the corners and sides, as balls keep disappearing! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: setjmp and longjmp Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:05:14 +0530 From: Maruthi_Rao Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <981rq4$pqi$1@overload.lbl.gov> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A5F6.D6D1C170 Content-Type: text/plain Hi, Would you explain the usage of setjpm and longjmp ( C++ ) in VxWorks environment? I have a bootable project and tried to use setjmp and longjmp but, could not compile. I included the setjmp.h in the source file. I am geting the error as: .....compiling............... partialImage.o: In function `_tfUi': \wpwr\host\src\gnu.simpc.cpp\gcc\cp\tinfo2.cc(.text+0x1f14): undefined reference to `setjmp'. Thanks in advance. Maruthi - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A5F6.D6D1C170 Content-Type: text/html setjmp and longjmp

Hi,

Would you explain the usage of setjpm and longjmp ( C++ ) in VxWorks environment?
I have a bootable project and tried to use setjmp and longjmp but, could not compile.
I included the setjmp.h in the source file.

I am geting the error as:
.....compiling...............
partialImage.o: In function `_tfUi':
\wpwr\host\src\gnu.simpc.cpp\gcc\cp\tinfo2.cc(.text+0x1f14):
undefined reference to `setjmp'.

Thanks in advance.

Maruthi


- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A5F6.D6D1C170-- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VxWorks Clock Setting Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:15:20 +0900 From: "Youngjin Roh" Organization: Unitel and AT&T Message-ID: <9825ib$qj8$1@newsread.unitel.co.kr> Hi VxWorkers! I've install VxWorks on PentiumIII Board. It's working very fine except one thing. The VxWorks clock says 1970:01:01 everytime I reboot it. But the BIOS says correct date and time. What do I need to install or include in order to sync clock device to VxWorks OS ? Thank you in advance! Youngjin. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: VxWorks Clock Setting Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:59:50 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983873069.442132@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <9825ib$qj8$1@newsread.unitel.co.kr> The default pc384, pc486, pcPentium, etc BSPs do not include code to handle the RTC. You need to write that code yourself and set the time when the system starts up. If you do not need the time for anything particular during system boot it will suffice to do it in your usrAppInit.c File hth werner Youngjin Roh wrote in message news:9825ib$qj8$1@newsread.unitel.co.kr... > Hi VxWorkers! > > I've install VxWorks on PentiumIII Board. It's working very fine except one > thing. > The VxWorks clock says 1970:01:01 everytime I reboot it. > > But the BIOS says correct date and time. > > What do I need to install or include in order to sync clock device to > VxWorks OS ? > > Thank you in advance! > > Youngjin. > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Programming Flash from VxWorks Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:06:09 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983873447.942282@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <97otdl$146$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Hi, I do not know your flash chip, nor am I too experienced in that stuff But when i tried it once, i found something called CFI (common flash interface) on the intel web site. I think the code was free, it was extremely easy to port (just needed to change the memory access for our needs) and worked immediately, including erase, verify, get size,... If you do not know that software, you should give it a try... I'm sorry for not knowing the URL anymore, but maybe a search on the intel site brings you there hth werner nitin kumar wrote in message news:97otdl$146$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com... > Hi, > I am trying to program the flash from my BSP and the specific > flash chip that we are using is Intel Strata Flash i28F128J3A. > However, I am still using the flash28WriteIntel1() routine > to write bytes into the flash. I don;t think I am > writing any thing. Do I need to use some other > routine for this chip ? > Thanks in advance > Nitin > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: prjConfig.c and kernelInit() Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:21:32 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983874371.690784@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AA3F498.5EF070D9@princetonoptical.com> Bhavesh Patel wrote in message news:3AA3F498.5EF070D9@princetonoptical.com... > Hi all, > I am using the tornado project facility to build the custom bootable > vxworks image. However if I look at the generated prjconfig.c file I DO > NOT see the entry for "kernelInit()" which is responsible for spawning > usrRoot according to vxworks programmer's manual. The question is - > 1) IN which file is spawning of usrRoot coded? $(WIND_BASE)/target/config/comps/src/usrKernel.c - function usrKernelInit > 2) In which file is call to "netLoad()" coded? $(WIND_BASE)/target/config/all/bootConfig.c - AFAIK only used to download boot image over network connection > 3) Also how do you set date and time on the target? Is there any other > way besides using TCP/IP time service(37) from a remote unix server? If your target has some sort of RTC on it you can simply read it from there and set the VxWorks system time appropriately. Depends on your target how to do that. hth werner --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:23:45 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <982df1$bik$1@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97kr9u$jv$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f1s9tceb1gdtsvfqk9tato69t5e2ibpl2@4ax.com> <97mcql$3jf$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f17c7.d0ac6@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt2o$42o$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg6d$8fl$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <10c5atku0m9q2ib1o6b61m60sqgjep1ilb@4ax.com> <97uqg0$d59$10@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:41:26 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:39:22 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:42:32 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:48:08 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:58:55 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 > >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that > >> >> >> >> >> >not everyone is as luck as me. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> I suggest counseling! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle > >> >> >> >> >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your > >> >> >> >> >not happy. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Yes, cures all your ills. Come one, come all. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Get your bottle here, roll up roll up! > >> >> > > >> >> >And it will make you more attractive, a better dancer, singer, > >> >> >lover and pool player. > >> >> > > >> >> No one would ever complain about being a better pool player! > >> > > >> >I refuse to play pool now. My game, which was never great has > >> >gone downhhill the last few months. > >> > > >> Just because you are crap is no excuse, it has never stopped me from > >> playing. > > > >I hate getting beaten by Rob, he sucks too. When I was just bad, I > >could live with that, but I get beaten when I know I should win. That > >sucks too much. > > > Your ability doesn't match what you know should be done? What I have done is more like it. I'm a shadow of my shitful self! > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:52:24 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <982f54$32t$3@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97kohg$3si$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcnl$rbg$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <03kt9t0cfhu9k6lc8n40if6tfob7vu43st@4ax.com> <3a9f1767.f400e@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nsvn$42o$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg25$8fl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqcm$d59$8@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:39:40 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:37:09 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:40:52 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >STFGP wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> Optional Identity wrote: Nothing. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:02 > >> >> >> > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> > alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:06:27 > >> >> >> > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 > >> >> >> > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try > >> >> >> > >> >> >> anything to succeed, by now. > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would > >> >> >> > >> >> >be surprised if they don't make the final 8. > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> It is about time they did, but they won't win the Grand Final! > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> >I doubt they would, but a lot of people would love it if they did. > >> >> >> > >> >By beating an interstate team or the bombers. > >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > >> True, but all those people are wrong! > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > >Why so? > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > Because if the Bombers can't win an Interstate team is the next best, > >> >> >> > preferably the Swans! > >> >> >> > >> >> >> NO That is just plain wrong. And for your own safety, don't ever > >> >> >> say that in a Victorian Pub. Intersate teams are just fine, as long as > >> >> >> they don't win the grand final...... > >> >> >> And definately not the Swans. When the were in the Grand Final, all > >> >> >> of Sydney were so up themselve, not cause the gave a shit about the > >> >> >> match, just cause they had a chance to beat Victoria in their own game, > >> >> >> and didn't they shut the fuck up after the Swans lost. And when > >> >> >> Victoria beat them at their own game and the Storm won... HAHAHA. > >> >> > > >> >> That was nearly as much fun as when The Raiders did it 2 years in a > >> >> row. I knew suggesting the Swans should win would upset you. YHBT. > >> > > >> >EABOS. > >> >I was going for the raiders when they won, then I went for the broncos > >> >when the started and they won, then I went for the storm and they won. > >> >I have the magic touch. I don't go for the swans, so they wont win. > >> > > >> They won't win because they are shit, which is why you don't go for > >> them. > > > >No, as you pointed out. I'm not from there (there a good band) and > >I don't like 'em. And them being sucky is an added bonus. > > > They are a good band. So you got that one did you? I though I would have to explain it. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:53:52 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <982f7l$32t$4@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97kr8j$jv$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcod$rbg$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1794.cdebf@newton.pacific.net.au> <3uau9to7kvja1nvf8aq8bt0j4ccgm9g7gb@4ax.com> <97nt0t$42o$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg4r$8fl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqe3$d59$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f46atg6dtng1u9385ra4uncvgi3mb Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:40:25 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:38:27 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:41:32 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:47:17 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:44 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:52:54 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 > >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Are there? > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Then there are those who don't like me. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Who wouldn't lik you? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> The same people who don't like you, I guess. I.e. fuckkkheads! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Argh. Yes, those pesky fuckheads. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> A lot of them reside in alt.flame > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Yeah, well then thankfully I don't see them that often. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> It is better that way! > >> >> > > >> >> >Though a few of them seem to pay attention to us! > >> >> > > >> >> Fuck knows why they care, jealousy? > >> > > >> >Stupidity? But I gotta say, I do feel loved right now. > >> > > >> That is important! > > > >Oh yeah. Everyone needs to feel the love and support of > >all my usenet brethren. > > > And those guys are teh acest at love and support! Yes, I'm getting so many supportive emails, it's making me all gooey inside. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:54:41 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <982f9d$32t$5@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97krda$jv$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97mcvm$3jf$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1842.8df59@newton.pacific.net.au> <14bu9t0u3rt2c4eh0b58h1mpbkemljkpfu@4ax.com> <97nt4a$42o$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <6r60atk16a5t4k2sp6ho5aju2vibpmf5tc@4ax.com> <97tg81$8fl$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqhs$d59$11@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:42:23 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:40:24 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> live > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>with. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>find. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>actually > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> session, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>hours > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>pissed > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> up > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> that > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>vodka > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>set > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> those > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> do > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>the > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>could see > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> bottle. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond > >> >> >> >> >> >> >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Same goes for Scotch! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Yep, it used to be Australian scotch was 37% and Scotch > >> >> >> >> >> >Scotch was 40%. Easy to spot the difference, now you have > >> >> >> >> >> >to do some research if you want to avoid the C&N. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Actually, for me, it is the alcohol content that matters to me! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Oh yeah, but back then the C&N was the weaker stuff. So it > >> >> >> >> >was a real quandry, cheaper scotch, but less % v's less cheaper > >> >> >> >> >scotch, but with higher %.... > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> The false economy thing. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >But thankfully, the government, made the one correct decision in my > >> >> >> >entire life and rasied all scotch to 40%.... Ya. Now they just need > >> >> >> >to do it with the rest of the spirit family to make it all even. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> It is embarrassing in teh bottle shop when you have to check teh > >> >> >> alcohol content before you buy!! > >> >> > > >> >> >Well now with scotch, you don't have to worry about that. > >> >> > > >> >> The Scotch Marketing Board must have bribed the Government. > >> > > >> >I think they lobbied them for quiet awhile to get it done, even playing > >> >field kind of thing. > >> > > >> I am surprised the others haven't cited the precedent. And whose idea > >> was it to change from 750ml bottles to 700? That extra 50mls makes all > >> the difference! > > > >I'd almost forgot about that. Just another way to rip us off. > > > It sucks, I got a 1100ml bottle of Slolichnaya for $9.50 duty free > when I went OS. Aaarrrrrggghhhh, duty free. You gonna share that? > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:55:17 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <982fa7$32t$6@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <8k1s9t4bke6qipkh8d2hsqjniie5do0ns1@4ax.com> <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3170atk9f6el59t03pvk0r11uru4fpaule@4ax.com> <97tgai$8fl$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <24c5atktd61dv54sma1mc4rlsibbkuths0@4ax.com> <97uqiv$d59$12@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:43:00 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:41:43 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried > >> >> >> >> >> >and hopefully never will. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am sorry > >> >> >> >> >> for bringing it up! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it will stop > >> >> >> >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed anyway. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. > >> >> > > >> >> >And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after > >> >> >drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. > >> >> > > >> >> Same goes for guns and rifles. > >> > > >> >Ah, I'm not a gun kind of person. Any dick can shoot you when > >> >they are pissed off. And not take it back later when they sover up. > >> > > >> Exactly, and heavy machinery. > > > >Or cars, people should be more responsible. > > > They should, or they shouldn't be allowed to drink. Yes. Though the punishment is mean, it is fair. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:56:23 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <982fc9$32t$7@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4do$htj$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <3obp9t4llods18sb05qrueng9t0qgifh96@4ax.com> <97jos1$fsv$15@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kotb$3si$10@intimidator.databasix.com> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > <97oa56$432$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >Dave Korn wrote: > > > >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >> <3a9f158c.b5ab8@newton.pacific.net.au>... > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:12:42 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 > 08:05:54 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated > this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I > >> drink alot then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often > do > >> this. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly > >> pissed, it just makes > >> >> >> >> >> >> >me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and > intensive > >> yogic training > >> >> >> >> >> >> >to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke > >> yourself stupid without > >> >> >> >> >> >> >pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise > is > >> rewarding in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully > habituated > >> to both. I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, > and > >> then drink. A > >> >> >> >> >> >> >couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh > >> hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick > with > >> the hangover or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >just > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If > you > >> insist, even if > >> >> >> >> >> >> >you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do > without > >> smoking, and > >> >> >> >> >> >> >will > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I > do > >> want too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. > >> :) > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive > now. > >> You > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > I'll help ya with that spare one! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> No problem Dave! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >You leave spare drinks lying around? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> No that was the one I got for you, that you couldn't have > >> because you > >> >> >> >> >> were driving. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Oh... Woo. Thanks for clearing that up. I was nearly about > to > >> drop all > >> >> >> >> >communications with you. It was nice of you to give it to > DaveK, > >> though > >> >> >> >> >personally I would have drank it myself if I was you. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> So would I, but he promised the next shout, and we kept > drinking, > >> and > >> >> >> >> I eventually woke up in a dumpster, but hey it was a great > night! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >It has to have been a good night if you woke up in a dumpster. > Did > >> you > >> >> >> >end up with a traffic cone? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> It was a stop sign this time, the whole thing sign, pole and lump > of > >> >> >> concrete. I wish I could remember how that happened! > >> >> > > >> >> >Check your house for a pick.... Or a nieghbourhood car for panel > >> damage. > >> >> > > >> >> I guess it must have been Dave K's car! > >> > > >> >What? He won't post in our threads, but he's off getting pissed with > you, > >> >drink driving and shit... > >> > >> AAAAAAARRRGHA OHMYGODITWASAWFUL ITELLYOU AWFULAAAAARRRGH I've just > been > >> through the most terrifying Usenet experience ever. > >> > >> Something went wrong with the feed to and from my server. It was like > >> being trapped in a cave or mine when the entrance tunnel collapses. > There > >> were hundreds of us, trapped in there. We were desparate to call for > help, > >> but nobody could get a message in or out to the outside world. Cut off > from > >> outside existence, nothing but the sound of our own posts echoing around > in > >> the dark, wondering how long it would be before rescue came. Some turned > to > >> cannibalism, others jumped into the bottomless pits in despair, only the > >> mentally tough were able to survive... > >> > >> I'm deeply traumatised. I think I need a drink. Fortunately I'm off > down > >> to London this evening to go on a major pissup with a bunch of old mates > >> from way back when, so I should have recovered my aplomb by the end of > the > >> weekend :) > >> > >> DaveK > > > >So that's where you been.... I was just about to claim spank on you. > >Oh well, I'll have to try on someone else. Have fun. > > Heh. I did :) > > DaveK You would have to had to. But coudn't you have waited for a few more days and let me claim spank? - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: [Help Me] task Delay less than sys clk tick Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 10:59:49 GMT From: "Kim, Jeong-Hwan" Organization: Dacom Message-ID: How can I delay a process less than one system clock tick ? For example, when I set system clock using sysClkRateSet(60) how can I delay less than 1/60 second ? If I use taskDelay(), I can delay only 1/60. I'm using MPC8260 Thanks in advance Kim --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Tornado2 and command-line make Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 23:42:32 GMT From: u76721191@spawnkill.ip-mobilphone.net Message-ID: Sender: u76721191@spawnkill.ip-mobilphone.net I can build our images in both the IDE and on the command line, but while the IDE places all the objects and final images neatly in a subdirectory, the command-line make puts all objects, etc. into the current directory. (The subdirectory name is the same as the toolchain name.) How can I force the command-line make to behave the same way? - -- Sent by trish.bennett from caenewnes subdomain of com This is a spam protected message. Please answer with reference header. Posted via http://www.usenet-replayer.com/cgi/content/new --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Tornado2 and command-line make Date: 6 Mar 2001 07:47:44 -0500 From: vanbaren@falcon.si.com (vanbaren_gerald) Organization: Smiths Industries Message-ID: <3aa4dc70@news.si.com> References: u76721191@spawnkill.ip-mobilphone.net writes: >I can build our images in both the IDE and on the command line, but >while the IDE places all the objects and final images neatly in a >subdirectory, the command-line make puts all objects, etc. into the > current directory. (The subdirectory name is the same as the >toolchain name.) >How can I force the command-line make to behave the same way? > cd to the subdirectory (default) and execute the make command: make -f ../Makefile gvb - -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jerry Van Baren / vanbaren_gerald@si.com / Grand Rapids Mi / 616-241-7973 | | My employer is a company. Companies are artifacts of a legal system. | |________________Artifacts are incapable of having opinions.________________| --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: need simple quick help concerning MAKE Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:07:18 +0100 From: "Achim Zimmer" Organization: Colt Telecom GmbH Message-ID: <982nej$d9k$1@crusher.de.colt.net> I try to change to a subdirectory and start there an other make. The GNU make manual says: xxx: cd subdir make xxx or xxx: cd subdir; make xxx the second seems only to work on unix and the first version did not change the directory on winNT host The same makefile is called permanantly again. What is the error ?? Thanks a lot, I am in trouble with time. Achim --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: copying to RAM file sysytem in vxworks Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 04:44:49 -0800 (PST) From: Nagasesha Reddy Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <982nu4$a4o$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi We have got NFS file system and RAM file system ( /ram0) on vxworks target. Copying files to NFS file system is ok, whereas copying files to RAM file system is very slow. It took more than 2 minutes, to copy a file of 35 KBytes size to RAM file system. Can anybody tell me the possible reason for this behaviuor? thanks in advance __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: need simple quick help concerning MAKE Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:44:00 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983886518.114359@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <982nej$d9k$1@crusher.de.colt.net> Try use the -C switch of make to set the directory I remember we used that some time ago and there was no problems Running Windows NT 4.0 hth werner Achim Zimmer wrote in message news:982nej$d9k$1@crusher.de.colt.net... > I try to change to a subdirectory and start there an other make. > > The GNU make manual says: > xxx: > cd subdir > make xxx > or > xxx: > cd subdir; make xxx > > the second seems only to work on unix and the first version did not change > the directory on winNT host > The same makefile is called permanantly again. > > > What is the error ?? > > Thanks a lot, I am in trouble with time. > > Achim > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: need simple quick help concerning MAKE Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:22:23 +0100 From: "Achim Zimmer" Organization: Colt Telecom GmbH Message-ID: <982rr9$eim$1@crusher.de.colt.net> References: <982nej$d9k$1@crusher.de.colt.net> <983886518.114359@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> the problem is, that this software package is bought and they are using a recursive of nearly 15 automatically generated "makes". Werner Schiendl schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: 983886518.114359@newsmaster-04.atnet.at... > Try use the -C switch of make to set the directory > I remember we used that some time ago and there was no problems > Running Windows NT 4.0 > > hth > werner > > Achim Zimmer wrote in message > news:982nej$d9k$1@crusher.de.colt.net... > > I try to change to a subdirectory and start there an other make. > > > > The GNU make manual says: > > xxx: > > cd subdir > > make xxx > > or > > xxx: > > cd subdir; make xxx > > > > the second seems only to work on unix and the first version did not change > > the directory on winNT host > > The same makefile is called permanantly again. > > > > > > What is the error ?? > > > > Thanks a lot, I am in trouble with time. > > > > Achim > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: need simple quick help concerning MAKE Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:29:18 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983889235.183963@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <982nej$d9k$1@crusher.de.colt.net> <983886518.114359@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <982rr9$eim$1@crusher.de.colt.net> Well, this changes the situation somewhat The reason why the first version > > > > > > The GNU make manual says: > > > xxx: > > > cd subdir > > > make xxx does not work, could be that make shells every line in the makefile on its own so changes to the environment (the path is also part of it) are not propagated between to consecutive lines. I'm not a hacker for the Windows command line, but you need to get both things in 'a line' is there no possibility to change the automatic make generation? if you could change from cd subdir, make xxx to cd subdir make xxx what's the problem to change it to make -C subdir xxx?? hth werner --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: interrupt controller 8259 Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:05:55 +0100 From: Renate Meijer Organization: Organized Panic Message-ID: <3AA4FCD3.C24C85C8@my-deja.com> References: <97vl0r$r8pb6$1@ID-78468.news.dfncis.de> Hi, I've got the same problem. So at least I can say it's not just you. We're adapting (or rather trying to adapt) the BSP (formally a vmicpci7696 bsp) to handle it, but have been only (very) partially successfull. The 8259A's EOI handling is done in i8259IntEoiMaster and i8259IntEoiSlave, but these seem to be ok. The handlers are attached by intConnect which uses (afaik) sysIntEoiGet to get the correct vectors in (depending on irq number). So if there's a problem, it's probably connected here. Linux says: (from http://lxr.linux.no/source/arch/i386/kernel/i8259.c) 293 outb(0x60+(irq&7),0xA0);/* 'Specific EOI' to slave */ VxWorks sysOutByte (0xa0, 0x20); /* non specific EOI (according to intel datasheet) */ EOI (compare 8259 datasheet), and VxWorks uses a nonspecific one. I do not know which is correct, or if either is incorrect, but it's a difference. Kind regards, Renate Meijer. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: vxworks image Date: 6 Mar 2001 16:14:47 +0100 From: bpatel@princetonoptical.com (Bhavesh Patel) Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: <3AA4FF7F.36C73C52@princetonoptical.com> Hi vxworkers, When i built a custom bootable vxworks image (for the development environment the boot code is loading the vxworks image over the network), the generated makefile has the following "-DROM_BASED" what does this mean? Mine is not a ROM-based vxworks since I am NOT copying the vxworks image from ROM to RAM but over the network. Thanks for the help. bhavesh - -- Posted from 64-56-57-146.comcasttel.net [64.56.57.146] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Execution speed problem Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:47:46 EST From: BurRb498@aol.com Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <982uv4$cik$1@overload.lbl.gov> - --part1_4c.11a47d4f.27d65292_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I would be very grateful if anyone could offer suggestions as to how I can get round the following problem. I am using a bespoke VME board with 2 PowerPC 603e processors (80MHz), running vxworks 5.01. I have a small 'C' test program to measure execution speed. This program, when running correctly, demonstrates that each processor can achieve 166MIPS. However, depending on exactly how the program is linked with vxworks, it can run at less than a 10th of this speed. Caching is enabled on the processor, and tests have demonstrated that the test program runs from cache at both speeds. There is no significant interrupt overhead during the execution of the test routines. No other tasks should be running under vxworks. The way the program is linked seems to be critical. With the windriver suggested way of linking (relocatable link first, then absolute link), when the 2nd link takes the output of the first the test runs slowly. However, when the 2nd link links the original files, the test runs quickly. However this is not repeatable with our main application. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Robert Burton - --part1_4c.11a47d4f.27d65292_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello,

I would be very grateful if anyone could offer suggestions as to how I can
get round the following problem.

I am using a bespoke VME board with 2 PowerPC 603e processors (80MHz),
running vxworks 5.01. I have a small 'C' test program to measure execution
speed. This program, when running correctly, demonstrates that each processor
can achieve 166MIPS. However, depending on exactly how the program is linked
with vxworks, it can run at less than a 10th of this speed. Caching is
enabled on the processor, and tests have demonstrated that the test program
runs from cache at both speeds. There is no significant interrupt overhead
during the execution of the test routines. No other tasks should be running
under vxworks.

The way the program is linked seems to be critical. With the windriver
suggested way of linking (relocatable link first, then absolute link), when
the 2nd link takes the output of the first the test runs slowly. However,
when the 2nd link links the original files, the test runs quickly. However
this is not repeatable with our main application.

Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

Robert Burton - --part1_4c.11a47d4f.27d65292_boundary-- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Link a picture to a ROM-image Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:16:40 +0100 From: Emmanuel Herbreteau Organization: SEPRO Robotique (BEP) Message-ID: <3AA4FF58.E69782C5@sepro-robotique.com> Hi, Does someone know how to link a picture (a RAW bitmap file) to a ROM-image (VxWorks Rom Resident) ? (GNU LD option ??) - -- Regards Emmanuel --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Linking errors Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 11:07:59 -0500 From: Jon Van Stensel Organization: Smiths Industries Message-ID: <3AA50B5E.2F07F978@si.com> I am porting an OpenGL benchmark to vxWorks and am running in to some problems at the linker stage. ldppc -o viewperf objs/Env.o objs/clock.o objs/texture.o objs/viewperf.o objs/eD.o objs/eI.o objs/eDM.o objs/eIM.o objs/eDA.o objs/eIA.o objs/eDMA.o objs/eIMA.o objs/eDW.o objs/eIW.o objs/eDMW.o objs/eIMW.o objs/eDAW.o objs/eIAW.o objs/eDMAW.o objs/eIMAW.o -Lobjs -Lvpaux/libaux - -Lvpaux/libtk - -L/usr/wind/users/stitt/benchmarks/specperf/src/pngxor/libpng - -L/usr/wind/users/stitt/benchmarks/specperf/src/pngxor/zlib - -L/usr/wind/users/stitt/seawind/lib - -L/usr/wind/users/stitt/benchmarks/specperf/src/userlib - -L/usr/wind/tornado20/host/sun4-solaris2/powerpc-wrs-vxworks/lib - -L/usr/wind/tornado20/target/lib -lvp -laux -lpng -lz -lGLU -lGL -lXext - -lX11 -lm -lPPC604gnuvx -ldy4PPC604gnuvx /usr/wind/users/stitt/benchmarks/specperf/src/userlib/userfunc.o ldppc: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; defaulting to 00040074 objs/viewperf.o: In function `main': objs/viewperf.o(.text+0xba1c): undefined reference to `__eabi' make: *** [viewperf] Error 1 As you can see when I try and link viewperf it cannot find entry symbol _start. I figure this is a problem with the way I create the object file so here is the command line for that. ccppc -c viewperf.c -o objs/viewperf.o -O3 -Ivpaux/libaux - -I/usr/wind/users/stitt/benchmarks/specperf/src/pngxor/libpng - -I/usr/wind/users/stitt/benchmarks/specperf/src/pngxor/zlib - -I/usr/wind/users/stitt/seawind/X11 - -I/usr/wind/users/stitt/benchmarks/specperf/src/include - -I/usr/wind/tornado20/target -I/usr/wind/tornado20/target/h - -I/usr/wind/users/stitt/benchmarks/specperf/src/userlib -DXWINDOWS -DPNG - -DCPU=PPC604 Everything compiles fine up to linking, with the exception of the making of Env.o where some pointers are made without a cast, but everything else compiles fine without any errors or warnings. It seems to me as if I'm missing something when it comes to making viewperf.o, so if anybody could provide me with any insight as to what I'm doing wrong it would be greatly appreciated. In addition, the undefined reference to '__eabi' appears to be the resultant of a missing library, but I have no idea what library that might be if this is the case. Once again, any insight anyone could provide me with would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jon Van Stensel --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: [Fwd: multiply defined symbols] Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 09:28:17 -0600 From: Cary Walker Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <3AA50211.6790AE01@sbei.com> Cary Walker wrote: > Hey all, > > I created a relocatable object file by using the -r option for ld. However, when > I link it into my main vxWorks image, I get the following: > > ctdt.o(.data+0x0):W:\vxWorks\projects\hw400_bsp_dcl\default\ctdt.c: multiple > definition of > `_ctors' > W:\vxWorks\workspace\libSbeDebug\PPC603gnu\libSbeDebug.out:W:\vxWorks\workspace\libSbeDebu > > g\PPC603gnu\W:\common\sbeDebug\sbeAssert.c:8: first defined here > > I get the same error for the destructor. What can I do? > > Thanks, > Cary --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: TEst 'C' program and vxWorks linking. Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:32:42 -0000 From: "David Anderson @ Data Track" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <9832h1$f5r$1@overload.lbl.gov> vxWorks Tornado The problem I believe is one of optimisation. In the first case ( relocatable link, then absolute ) your variables will be declared most probably as PC relative or SP ( stack pointer) relative addresses and not use absolute addressing. This is always slower than code which can be linked absolute. This will be compiled (?) and optimised to use the quickest addressing method, which I suspect would be some form of direct addressing ( as the addresses of the variables are declared ). You will also have a difference between the way in which subroutine ( function) calls are calculated - the relative addressing will possibly be using PC-relative subroutine calls, the absolute linked code can directly call subroutines without regard to PC-offset calculations. Hope that helps. Take a good look at your optimisations for your compiler and linker. Does your test progam use global, local or static variables ? David Anderson. mailto:danderson@dtrack.demon.co.uk - ------------------------------------- FF: 2B + ~2B , that is the question ? - ------------------------------------- Disclaimer - ---------- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please destroy and notify Data Track Technology Plc +44 1425 271900. - ------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: 68K FPP Exceptions Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:05:15 GMT From: Lee DeRaud Organization: None to speak of Message-ID: <8a2aatohpd0sma9cjco29vu3cd7q8m2eb1@4ax.com> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (Boeing NNTP News Access) For our project, we need to enable FPP exceptions, in particular divide-by-zero. The code to do that is more-or-less trivial except: 1. The FPCR bits to enable these exceptions have to be set on a per-task basis. Is there some way to globally set the default exception mask prior to spawning application tasks? 2. At least one library function (atan2) depends on the exceptions *not* being enabled in order to function properly (atan2 throws a DIV0 exception for zero cosine, i.e. 90 and 270 degrees). Are there any other known instances where normal in-range use of a library function will throw an OPERR or DIV0 FPP exception? Lee --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Linking errors Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:20:51 +0000 From: Simon Farnsworth Message-ID: <3AA50E63.3090904@snellwilcox.com> References: <3AA50B5E.2F07F978@si.com> Jon Van Stensel wrote: > I am porting an OpenGL benchmark to vxWorks and am running in to some > problems at the linker stage. > ldppc -o viewperf objs/Env.o objs/clock.o objs/texture.o objs/viewperf.o > ldppc: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; defaulting to 00040074 > objs/viewperf.o: In function `main': > objs/viewperf.o(.text+0xba1c): undefined reference to `__eabi' > As you can see when I try and link viewperf it cannot find entry symbol > _start. I figure this is a problem with the way I create the object > file so here is the command line for that. It looks like you have a function main() in viewperf.o. Under VxWorks, main() is not used, and should not be present in any of your source files. - -- HTH, Simon Farnsworth --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: [Help Me] task Delay less than sys clk tick Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:30:32 -0600 From: "M. Kotiaho" Organization: Lockheed Martin Corporation Message-ID: <9833a5$eo21@cui1.lmms.lmco.com> References: "Kim, Jeong-Hwan" wrote in message news:Fq3p6.211$qP.5115@news2.bora.net... > How can I delay a process less than one system clock tick ? > For example, when I set system clock using sysClkRateSet(60) > how can I delay less than 1/60 second ? > If I use taskDelay(), I can delay only 1/60. > I'm using MPC8260 > > Thanks in advance > > Kim > You could use nanosleep(), or if available on your system, you could try using the auxiliary clock (sysAuxClkConnect, etc.). Markku --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Link a picture to a ROM-image Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:38:36 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983900593.62349@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AA4FF58.E69782C5@sepro-robotique.com> The most easiest and portable approach is to create a .c File by coverting it to hex numbers and use that to initialize a global array. You can define a rule to convert .bmp to .o using that tool and link with that .o Then you are also able to get hold of the data by using the name of the global array. In this manner you can even have a library of images and link only those in that are required by the current app... Would this solve the problem? hth werner Emmanuel Herbreteau wrote in message news:3AA4FF58.E69782C5@sepro-robotique.com... > Hi, > > Does someone know how to link a picture (a RAW bitmap file) > to a ROM-image (VxWorks Rom Resident) ? (GNU LD option ??) > > -- > Regards > Emmanuel --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Link a picture to a ROM-image Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:25:39 GMT From: Lee DeRaud Organization: None to speak of Message-ID: References: <3AA4FF58.E69782C5@sepro-robotique.com> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (Boeing NNTP News Access) On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:16:40 +0100, Emmanuel Herbreteau wrote: >Hi, > >Does someone know how to link a picture (a RAW bitmap file) >to a ROM-image (VxWorks Rom Resident) ? (GNU LD option ??) Use the binToAsm utility to convert your (binary) bitmap file to assembly language (I think it just results in a massive stream of 'DW' directives). Then assemble it and link like any other object file. Lee --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Link a picture to a ROM-image Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 17:59:51 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <3AA4FF58.E69782C5@sepro-robotique.com> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>>>> "EH" == Emmanuel Herbreteau writes: EH> Hi, Does someone know how to link a picture (a RAW bitmap EH> file) to a ROM-image (VxWorks Rom Resident) ? (GNU LD EH> option ??) You can make your own linker file and use the commands, /* Input section. */ TARGET(binary) INPUT(picture.bin) TARGET(elf) /* return to normal format. */ ... You have to get the targets back to the default value for your platform. This is what `TARGET(elf)' represents, although it might be coff for your platform. This works, although using `od', binToAsm, etc as discussed by others is far easier. You might be able to do this without a linker file by using the `-b' linker option. Like, "ld$(ARCH) -b elf $(C_FILES) -b binary picture.bin -b elf -o image.out" but I haven't tried that. hth, Bill - -- Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How to find the function name? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:02:36 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <9838ec$dvk$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <97ovd3$1ip$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <3AA06920.F4921455@yahoo.com> Thanks. It's absolutely a practical choice. But that will change the build. And again, if the program goes wrong, say there is a memory problem, the name shown out may be incorrect, the name returned is the next function whose address is next (lower) to the address if the address is incorrect. So, is there a tool to find the relocation information by only reading the execuable file? Our system is a standalone build. Thanks a lot. Pierre Frigon wrote in message news:3AA06920.F4921455@yahoo.com... > If you are using Tornado II there is an option in the IDE that enables adding > static symbols to the symbol table. These are not added by default. You could > also load your object files using this syntax which is equivalent : ld (1) < > myLib.o > > There is also a function that looks like lkupAddr() you can call from the shell > that finds a symbol given a specified address (assuming that the symbol exists > in the symbol table). > > Hope this helps > > "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" wrote: > > > Hi > > > > When the system crash, we print out a trace with each line including the > > function pointer and function name. > > > > My problem is : some functions are declared as static function so they can't > > be shown out correctly by just retrieving its name from sysSymTbl. > > (Am I wrong? Please point out the correct reason ) > > > > There must be a way to read the executable file(or some other files?) and > > find the name by its function pointer. How? > > > > Thanks > > Freeman > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: re: Execution speed problem Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:09:11 +0000 (GMT) From: David Laight Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <200103061809.SAA21523@dsl-2.tadpole.co.uk> Robert, One possibility is that your code has two routines that end up sharing the same I-cache line. So the code keeps displacing itself from cache. Or you may be playing with data areas that displace each other. I don't know the cache architecture of the 603e, but the displacement behaviour depends on the 'n' of 'n'-way set-associative cache (typically n = 2 or 4). Also with a common I and D cache the stack any data buffers (and stack) may also displace things. I would look at the actual addresses assigned to all the memory areas used in the fast and slow cases. That changing the link order affects things makes it most likely that static code and/or data is the problem - however it could be the alignment of static and dynamic data piling on each other. For a real solution - not sure - maybe a partial link of the important code into an area smaller than the I-cache? David > > Hello, > > I would be very grateful if anyone could offer suggestions as to how I can > get round the following problem. > > I am using a bespoke VME board with 2 PowerPC 603e processors (80MHz), > running vxworks 5.01. I have a small 'C' test program to measure execution > speed. This program, when running correctly, demonstrates that each processor > can achieve 166MIPS. However, depending on exactly how the program is linked > with vxworks, it can run at less than a 10th of this speed. Caching is > enabled on the processor, and tests have demonstrated that the test program > runs from cache at both speeds. There is no significant interrupt overhead > during the execution of the test routines. No other tasks should be running > under vxworks. > > The way the program is linked seems to be critical. With the windriver > suggested way of linking (relocatable link first, then absolute link), when > the 2nd link takes the output of the first the test runs slowly. However, > when the 2nd link links the original files, the test runs quickly. However > this is not repeatable with our main application. > > Any suggestions would be most appreciated. > > Robert Burton Kill html! > Hello, - ---------------------------------------------------------------- David Laight email: dsl@tadpole.co.uk Tadpole Technology plc phone: +44 1223 428 232 Cambridge, UK fax: +44 1223 428 201 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: BSP for MIPS CW4000 architecture Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 18:02:45 GMT From: u787445068@spawnkill.ip-mobilphone.net Message-ID: Sender: u787445068@spawnkill.ip-mobilphone.net Hi all, We are developing a custom-board BSP using VxWorks, which is based on an LSI Logic's MIPS, of the CW4000 architecture. We got from wrs another BSP for this MIPS architecture (uMeteor) to base our development on. But.... this BSP (uMeteor) compiles and works only for Tornado 1.01. There is no version of it that compiles on Tornado 2.0. The main problem is that Tornado 2.0 does not include files that support this architecture, as opposed to R4000, R3000 architectures. If any of you know what are the changes that should be made to make this BSP compile for Tornado 2.0, or may have a patch for it, we would appriciate your help. - -- Sent by dafnam from shiron within area com This is a spam protected message. Please answer with reference header. Posted via http://www.usenet-replayer.com/cgi/content/new --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Multiply defined symbols Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 12:26:03 -0600 From: Cary Walker Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <3AA52BBB.BA4DB7EB@sbei.com> - --------------B70C88DBC36AAAB40AFA34AF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey all, I created a relocatable object file by using the -r option for ld. However, when I link it into my main vxWorks image, I get the following: ctdt.o(.data+0x0):W:\vxWorks\projects\hw400_bsp_dcl\default\ctdt.c: multiple definition of `_ctors' W:\vxWorks\workspace\libSbeDebug\PPC603gnu\libSbeDebug.out:W:\vxWorks\workspace\libSbeDebu g\PPC603gnu\W:\common\sbeDebug\sbeAssert.c:8: first defined here I get the same error for the destructor. What can I do? Thanks, Cary - --------------B70C88DBC36AAAB40AFA34AF Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey all,

I created a relocatable object file by using the - -r option for ld. However, when
I link it into my main vxWorks image, I get the following:

ctdt.o(.data+0x0):W:\vxWorks\projects\hw400_bsp_dcl\default\ctdt.c: multiple
definition of
 `_ctors'
W:\vxWorks\workspace\libSbeDebug\PPC603gnu\libSbeDebug.out:W:\vxWorks\workspace\libSbeDebu

g\PPC603gnu\W:\common\sbeDebug\sbeAssert.c:8: first defined here

I get the same error for the destructor. What can I do?

Thanks,
Cary
  - --------------B70C88DBC36AAAB40AFA34AF-- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: vxWorks bootrom to load NetBSD Date: 6 Mar 2001 20:36:24 +0100 From: pho@hyperchip.com (Phong Ho) Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A674.AE681DD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I try to use vxWorks bootrom to load NetBSD. The Hardware that I use is a Sandpoint PowerPC 755 system. I set RAM_LOW_ADRS to 0x00100000 because NetBSD start to execute at this address. Here is the input of my GPM: boot device : lnPci unit number : 0 processor number : 0 host name : rhynchaenus file name : netbsd.sandpoint inet on ethernet (e) : 10.0.13.35:0xffffff00 host inet (h) : 10.0.13.197 gateway inet (g) : 10.0.13.254 user (u) : pho ftp password (pw) : pho flags (f) : 0x80 When I try to load NetBSD by typing "@" The bootrom is enable to load NetBSD but it hangs at 0x100000. >Loading... 1873368 >Starting at 0x100000... I also try to debug the bootrom using visionICE but I am unable to set a breapoint at the go() function in bootConfig.c. Does anyone ever try to load NetBSD or other OS (linux) with vxWorks bootrom.hex? I mean you program bootrom.hex in your flash and try to load NetBSD over the network. All my thanks in advance. Phong Ho - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A674.AE681DD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable vxWorks bootrom to load NetBSD

I try to use vxWorks bootrom to load = NetBSD. The Hardware that  I use is a Sandpoint PowerPC 755 = system. I set RAM_LOW_ADRS    to 0x00100000  = because NetBSD start to execute at this address. Here is the input of = my GPM:

boot = device          : = lnPci           &= nbsp;           &= nbsp;   
unit = number          : = 0            = ;            =
processor = number     : = 0            = ;            =
host = name            = : = rhynchaenus          &= nbsp;           &= nbsp;           =
file = name            = :   = netbsd.sandpoint         &n= bsp;           &n= bsp;           =
inet on ethernet (e) : = 10.0.13.35:0xffffff00        &nb= sp;           &nb= sp;           &nb= sp;          
host inet = (h)        : = 10.0.13.197          &= nbsp;           &= nbsp;           =
gateway inet = (g)     : = 10.0.13.254          &= nbsp;           &= nbsp;           =
user = (u)           &nb= sp; : = pho           &nb= sp;           &nb= sp; 
ftp password (pw)    = : = pho           &nb= sp;           &nb= sp; 
flags = (f)            : = 0x80     

When I try to load NetBSD by typing = "@"
The bootrom is enable to load NetBSD = but it hangs at 0x100000.

>Loading... 1873368  &nbs= p;           &nbs= p;            =
>Starting at = 0x100000...   


I also try to debug the bootrom using = visionICE but I am unable to set   a breapoint  at the = go() function in bootConfig.c.

Does anyone ever try to load NetBSD = or other OS (linux) with vxWorks bootrom.hex? I mean you program = bootrom.hex in your flash and try to load NetBSD over the network. =

All my thanks in advance.
Phong Ho


- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A674.AE681DD0-- - -- Posted from [207.96.170.5] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: 68K FPP Exceptions Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:36:37 -0600 From: Andrew Johnson Organization: APS, Argonne National Laboratory Message-ID: <3AA53C45.63BE0DF6@aps.anl.gov> References: <8a2aatohpd0sma9cjco29vu3cd7q8m2eb1@4ax.com> Lee DeRaud wrote: > > 1. The FPCR bits to enable these exceptions have to be set on a > per-task basis. Is there some way to globally set the default > exception mask prior to spawning application tasks? No, but look at the taskCreateHookAdd() routine. If you set this before your application tasks are created your hook routine can enable the FPP exception bit in the WIND_TCB of each task. - - Andrew - -- Every great idea appears crazy to start with. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: serial ports, ioGlobalStdSet & shellOrigStdSet Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:53:38 -0000 From: "Matthew Barratt" Message-ID: <983908420.27504.0.nnrp-02.9e987524@news.demon.co.uk> References: <983396591.9437.0.nnrp-08.9e987524@news.demon.co.uk> Hello All, WRS eventually sent me an example program to show me how it was done, and this worked. The key seems to be an undocumented (at least it's not in my documentation set, growl) function called shellRestart. The problem was that when the shell is doing nothing it's actually pending on a call to the read function, and merely calling shellOrigStdSet doesn't do anything to the shell because of this. However, once shellRestart has been called the shell starts paying attention to what shellOrigStdSet does. One subtlety is that shellRestart is run using execJobAdd (or something like that, I've not got the example in front of me...), for reasons I'm not aware of as yet. The sequence of calls was 1) IMPORT int consoleFd (seems to be a global defined in the kernel? could get this using ioglobalstdget I guess) 2) open new fd 3) call shellOrigStdSet for stdin, stdout, stderr, point them at new fd 4) (I call ioGlobalStdSet for stdin, stdout, stderr too, point them at new fd) 5) execJobAdd(shellRestart....) 6) I can now do whatever I like with consoleFd Cheerio, Matthew Barratt "Matthew Barratt" wrote in message news:983396591.9437.0.nnrp-08.9e987524@news.demon.co.uk... > Hello all, > I'm having trouble with the functions ioGlobalStdSet/Get, > shellOrigStdSet/Get and ioctl. I can successfully divert printfs using > ioGlobalStdSet away from tyCo/0, but shellOrigStdSet doesn't divert the > built in shell. Furthermore, close won't close the file descriptor for > tyCo/0, nor can I successfully use ioctl to change the baud rate for tyCo/0 > (it does something, but all my terminal prints is garbage [baud rate set > correctly]). Is there something that holds on to tyCo/0 forever no matter > what I try and do? Also, does anyone know how ioGlobalStdSet/Get (which > return int file descriptors) relates to stdin, stdout and stderr (which are > FILE* streams)? Many thanks in advance, > > Matthew Barratt > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: setjmp and longjmp Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:53:26 +0000 From: Kees van der Bent Organization: Software Feastures Message-ID: <3AA54E46.B81EA128@mail.com> References: <981rq4$pqi$1@overload.lbl.gov> Maruthi_Rao wrote: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A5F6.D6D1C170 > Content-Type: text/plain > > Hi, > > Would you explain the usage of setjpm and longjmp ( C++ ) in VxWorks > environment? > I have a bootable project and tried to use setjmp and longjmp but, could not > compile. > I included the setjmp.h in the source file. > > I am geting the error as: > .....compiling............... > partialImage.o: In function `_tfUi': > \wpwr\host\src\gnu.simpc.cpp\gcc\cp\tinfo2.cc(.text+0x1f14): > undefined reference to `setjmp'. Did you include ? Please, always post the smallest code fragment that still has the problem. All the best, Kees --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: VxWorks Clock Setting Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:50:23 +0000 From: Kees van der Bent Organization: Software Feastures Message-ID: <3AA54D8F.8134CF5B@mail.com> References: <9825ib$qj8$1@newsread.unitel.co.kr> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------14E8D1D4AF82FCE23AE9DB10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Youngjin Roh wrote: > Hi VxWorkers! > > I've install VxWorks on PentiumIII Board. It's working very fine except one > thing. > The VxWorks clock says 1970:01:01 everytime I reboot it. > > But the BIOS says correct date and time. > > What do I need to install or include in order to sync clock device to > VxWorks OS ? > > Thank you in advance! Dear Yougnjin, Here's the code to do it. Note that you need to invoke clock_setres() if you change sysClkRate. All the best. Kees van der Bent - --------------14E8D1D4AF82FCE23AE9DB10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="rtc.c" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="rtc.c" /** * Real Time Clock driver for IBM AT compatible PC. Derived from Linux kernel * source code (linux/kernel/time.c). * * @see DS12887 (or MC146818) data sheets * @version $Revision$ */ #include #include #include #include "rtc.h" /** * Converts Gregorian date to seconds since 1970-01-01 00:00:00. Assumes input * in normal date format, i.e. 1980-12-31 23:59:59 => year=1980, mon=12, day=31, * hour=23, min=59, sec=59. * * [For the Julian calendar (which was used in Russia before 1917, Britain & * colonies before 1752, anywhere else before 1582, and is still in use by some * communities) leave out the -year/100+year/400 terms, and add 10.] * * This algorithm was first published by Gauss (I think). * * WARNING: this function will overflow on 2106-02-07 06:28:16 on machines were * long is 32-bit! (However, as time_t is signed, we will already get * problems at other places on 2038-01-19 03:14:08) */ static unsigned long convertTime( unsigned int year, unsigned int mon, unsigned int day, unsigned int hour, unsigned int min, unsigned int sec) { if (0 >= (int) (mon -= 2)) /* 1..12 -> 11,12,1..10 */ { mon += 12; /* Puts February last since it has leap day */ year -= 1; } return ((((unsigned long)(year/4 - year/100 + year/400 + 367*mon/12 + day) + year*365 - 719499 )*24 + hour /* hours */ )*60 + min /* minutes */ )*60 + sec; /* finally seconds */ } /** * Calculates they day number of the year starting at January 1. */ static unsigned long dayOfTheYear( int year, int mon, int day) { static unsigned short jDays[12] = /* days since Jan. 1 in non-leap yr */ { 0, 31, 59, 90, 120, 151, 181, 212, 243, 273, 304, 334 }; /* leap year is divisible by 4 but not by 100, or by 400 */ return(jDays[mon - 1] + day + ((( (((year%4) == 0) && ((year%100) != 0)) || ((year%400) == 0)) && (mon>2)) ? 1 : 0) ); } /** * Sets the RTC clock to the supplied time. */ int rtcSetTime( const struct tm* pTime) { unsigned char saveControl; saveControl = CMOS_READ(RTC_CONTROL); /* tell the clock it's being set */ CMOS_WRITE((saveControl | RTC_SET), RTC_CONTROL); CMOS_WRITE(BIN_TO_BCD(pTime->tm_sec), RTC_SECONDS); CMOS_WRITE(BIN_TO_BCD(pTime->tm_min), RTC_MINUTES); CMOS_WRITE(BIN_TO_BCD(pTime->tm_hour), RTC_HOURS); CMOS_WRITE(pTime->tm_wday + 1, RTC_DAY_OF_WEEK); CMOS_WRITE(BIN_TO_BCD(pTime->tm_mday), RTC_DAY_OF_MONTH); CMOS_WRITE(BIN_TO_BCD(pTime->tm_mon), RTC_MONTH); CMOS_WRITE(BIN_TO_BCD(pTime->tm_year), RTC_YEAR); CMOS_WRITE(saveControl, RTC_CONTROL); return OK; } /** * Gets current time from RTC. * * @param pointer to allocated time structure being set * @return address of static string containing time in a decimal format */ char* rtcGetTime( struct tm* pTime) { static char timeString[32]; struct tm t; if (pTime == 0) { pTime = &t; } pTime->tm_sec = CMOS_READ(RTC_SECONDS); pTime->tm_min = CMOS_READ(RTC_MINUTES); pTime->tm_hour = CMOS_READ(RTC_HOURS); pTime->tm_mday = CMOS_READ(RTC_DAY_OF_MONTH); pTime->tm_mon = CMOS_READ(RTC_MONTH); pTime->tm_year = CMOS_READ(RTC_YEAR); pTime->tm_wday = CMOS_READ(RTC_DAY_OF_WEEK); pTime->tm_sec = BCD_TO_BIN(pTime->tm_sec); pTime->tm_min = BCD_TO_BIN(pTime->tm_min); pTime->tm_hour = BCD_TO_BIN(pTime->tm_hour); pTime->tm_mday = BCD_TO_BIN(pTime->tm_mday); pTime->tm_mon = BCD_TO_BIN(pTime->tm_mon); pTime->tm_year = BCD_TO_BIN(pTime->tm_year); pTime->tm_yday = dayOfTheYear((pTime->tm_year + 2000), pTime->tm_mon, pTime->tm_mday); pTime->tm_isdst = 0; /*### is daylight savings time in effect flag */ sprintf(timeString, "%04d-%02d-%02d %02d:%02d:%02d", 2000 + pTime->tm_year, pTime->tm_mon, pTime->tm_mday, pTime->tm_hour, pTime->tm_min, pTime->tm_sec); return timeString; } /** * Synchronizes the VxWorks system time to the RTC time. */ int rtcSetSysFromRtcTime(void) { struct tm tmBuf; struct timespec tspec; int sysClkRate = sysClkRateGet(); int lockKey; lockKey = intLock(); /* make sure seconds and ticks correspond */ rtcGetTime(&tmBuf); tspec.tv_sec = convertTime(tmBuf.tm_year + 2000, tmBuf.tm_mon, tmBuf.tm_mday, tmBuf.tm_hour, tmBuf.tm_min, tmBuf.tm_sec); tspec.tv_nsec = (((tickGet() % sysClkRate) * 1000) / sysClkRate) * 1000000; clock_settime(CLOCK_REALTIME, &tspec); intUnlock(lockKey); return OK; } /** * Synchronizes the RTC time to the VxWorks system time. */ int rtcSetRtcFromSysTime(void) { struct tm tmBuf; struct timespec tSpec; clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, &tSpec); localtime_r(&(tSpec.tv_sec), &tmBuf); tmBuf.tm_wday = tmBuf.tm_wday -1; tmBuf.tm_mon = tmBuf.tm_mon + 1; if (tmBuf.tm_year > 99) { tmBuf.tm_year = tmBuf.tm_year - 100; } rtcSetTime(&tmBuf); return OK; } /* rtc.c */ - --------------14E8D1D4AF82FCE23AE9DB10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="rtc.h" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="rtc.h" /** * The contents of this file was originally derived from Linux source code. It * contains definitions needed for the source module for reading and setting the * PC compatible Real-Time Clock (RTC). Refer to the source for documentation. * * Note: Unused definitions have been removed wrt the original Linux source. */ #ifndef RTC_H #define RTC_H #include #ifdef __cplusplus extern "C" { #endif #define RTC_PORT(x) (0x70 + (x)) #define RTC_ADDR(x) (0x80 | (x)) #define CMOS_READ(addr) \ ({ \ sysOutByte(RTC_PORT(0), RTC_ADDR(addr)); \ sysInByte(RTC_PORT(1)); \ }) #define CMOS_WRITE(val, addr) \ ({ \ sysOutByte(RTC_PORT(0),RTC_ADDR(addr)); \ sysOutByte(RTC_PORT(1),val); \ }) /* register summary */ #define RTC_SECONDS 0 #define RTC_SECONDS_ALARM 1 #define RTC_MINUTES 2 #define RTC_MINUTES_ALARM 3 #define RTC_HOURS 4 #define RTC_HOURS_ALARM 5 #define RTC_DAY_OF_WEEK 6 #define RTC_DAY_OF_MONTH 7 #define RTC_MONTH 8 #define RTC_YEAR 9 #define RTC_FREQ_SELECT 10 #define RTC_CONTROL 11 /* RTC_FREQ_SELECT register details */ #define RTC_UIP 0x80 /* update-in-progress - set to "1" * 244 microsecs before RTC goes off the * bus, reset after update (may take * 1.984ms @ 32768Hz RefClock) is * complete, totalling to a max high * interval of 2.228 ms. */ /* RTC_CONTROL register details */ #define RTC_SET 0x80 /* disable updates for clock setting */ #define BCD_TO_BIN(val) (((val) & 15) + ((val) >> 4 ) * 10) #define BIN_TO_BCD(val) ((((val) / 10) << 4) + (val) % 10) int rtcSetTime( const struct tm* pTime); char* rtcGetTime( struct tm* pTime); int rtcSetSysFromRtcTime(void); int rtcSetRtcFromSysTime(void); #ifdef __cplusplus } #endif /* __cplusplus */ #endif /* RTC_H */ - --------------14E8D1D4AF82FCE23AE9DB10-- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: DHCP Client Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:37:04 +0800 From: "Nison" Organization: Utstarcom Message-ID: <982b8e$1r8k$1@news.cz.js.cn> Reply-To: "Nison" Hi: Why i couldn't add DHCP Client object in my kernel? Target: PentiumIII Host : NT4.0 Where can i get Tornado Cumulative Patch III? Thanks! - ------------------ Best Regards! Nison Nison.liu@utstar.com 03/06/2001 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VxSim running on win98? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:05:23 -0800 From: "Frank" Organization: CTSnet Internet Services Message-ID: <983jg6$1r38$1@thoth.cts.com> Does anyone know if Tornado2 for all simulators can run on win98? The installation calls for winNT or Solaris. If not is there a way to compile (not necessarily run) for vxWorks under windows98? thanks --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Multiply defined symbols Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:31:53 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983914591.325454@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AA52BBB.BA4DB7EB@sbei.com> You did munch it twice to support the construction and destruction of global objects in C++ You need to link the file without linking to the VxWorks image, because munching is otherwise done again. This is where the symbols _ctors comes from, it support static constrution If you linked in the .out file, just use the .o file and you are out of trouble. hth werner Cary Walker wrote in message news:3AA52BBB.BA4DB7EB@sbei.com... > > --------------B70C88DBC36AAAB40AFA34AF > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hey all, > > I created a relocatable object file by using the -r option for ld. > However, when > I link it into my main vxWorks image, I get the following: > > ctdt.o(.data+0x0):W:\vxWorks\projects\hw400_bsp_dcl\default\ctdt.c: > multiple > definition of > `_ctors' > W:\vxWorks\workspace\libSbeDebug\PPC603gnu\libSbeDebug.out:W:\vxWorks\worksp ace\libSbeDebu > > g\PPC603gnu\W:\common\sbeDebug\sbeAssert.c:8: first defined here > > I get the same error for the destructor. What can I do? > > Thanks, > Cary > > > --------------B70C88DBC36AAAB40AFA34AF > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > Hey all, >

I created a relocatable object file by using the > -r option for ld. However, when >
I link it into my main vxWorks image, I get the > following: >

ctdt.o(.data+0x0):W:\vxWorks\projects\hw400_bsp_dcl\default\ ctdt.c: > multiple >
definition of >
 `_ctors' >
W:\vxWorks\workspace\libSbeDebug\PPC603gnu\libSbeDebug.out:W :\vxWorks\workspace\libSbeDebu >

g\PPC603gnu\W:\common\sbeDebug\sbeAssert.c:8: > first defined here >

I get the same error for the destructor. What > can I do? >

Thanks, >
Cary >
  > > --------------B70C88DBC36AAAB40AFA34AF-- > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:35:35 -0500 From: Keith Arner Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <4FBEA8857476D311A03300204840E1CFCFBCF4-100000@whq-msgusr-02.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <%ekl6.145$kd4.3424@news2.bora.net> <982924461.600174@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <3A99FC33.6C90AAFF@voxware.com> <97dle7$b5$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <3A9AA785.74936F97@voxware.com> Reply-To: Keith Arner On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Craig Vanderborgh wrote: > I read the citation you gave from the VxWorks dox over a year ago and > decided to ignore it then. I built a condition var (pthread_cond_**) > for our pthreads package, and it has worked perfectly in a very > demanding application for some time now. I think that's just because your application is not demanding enough to find the holes in your implementation. I am making some assumptions about your implementation of pthread_cond_signal(), since you did not post it; I assume that what it does is loop over msgQReceive, calling taskResume() until there are no more messages in the queue. > Int > pthread_cond_wait(pthread_cond_t * cond , pthread_mutex_t * mutex) > /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------* > * DESCRIPTION > * Wait on a condition variable > *---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ > { > Int tid, status; > > if (!cond || !mutex || cond->defunct) > return PTHR_FAILURE; > > tid = taskIdSelf(); > > if (msgQSend(cond->waitersMsgQ, (char *) &tid, sizeof(Int), > WAIT_FOREVER, MSG_PRI_NORMAL) == ERROR) { > VBX_print("ERROR: pthread_cond_wait can't place taskId on waiters msgQ\n"); > return PTHR_FAILURE; > } > > if (pthread_mutex_unlock(mutex) != PTHR_SUCCESS) { > VBX_print("ERROR: pthread_cond_wait can't unlock mutex %x\n", mutex); > return PTHR_FAILURE; > } **** insert race condition here **** > if ((status = taskSuspend(tid)) != OK) { > VBX_print("ERROR: pthread_cond_wait can't suspend task 5d\n", tid); > return PTHR_FAILURE; > } > > if (pthread_mutex_lock(mutex) != PTHR_SUCCESS) { > VBX_print("ERROR: pthread_cond_wait can't reacquire mutex %x\n", mutex); > return PTHR_FAILURE; > } > > return PTHR_SUCCESS; > } What happens if another thread calls pthread_cond_signal() after you have given up the mutex, but before you have suspended yourself? (Remember that a higher priority task will preempt a lower priority task.) The other thread empties the message queue; when it gets to your tid, it does a taskResume() to wake you up, but you are already awake, so this is a noop. When you get to execute again, you suspend yourself, but your tid is no longer in the queue, so no one has any clue that you need to be woken up, and you go off to Rip vanWinkle Land. If, on the other hand, pthread_cond_signal() checks to see if you are not suspended, it might re-queue you into the message queue. But then you'll only get woken up on the *subsequent* call to pthread_cond_signal(), which I don't believe is correct behaviour. What about the interactions between pthread_cancel(), pthread_cond_wait(), and pthread_create()? What if a thread calls pthread_cond_wait(); then another calls pthread_cancel() on your thread, followed by pthread_create()? If the new thread does a pthread_cond_wait(), it will be woken up by activity on the wrong condition variable. How about this implementation of condition variables: typedef SEM_ID pthread_cond_t; typedef SEM_ID pthread_mutex_t; int pthread_cond_init(pthread_cond_t * cond , const pthread_cond_attr_t * attr) { return ( (*cond = semBCreate(SEM_Q_PRIORITY, SEM_EMPTY)) ? PTHR_SUCCESS : PTHR_FAILURE ) ; } Int pthread_cond_wait(pthread_cond_t * cond, pthread_mutex_t * mutex) { taskLock(); semGive(mutex); semTake(cond, WAIT_FOREVER); taskUnlock(); semTake(mutex, WAIT_FOREVER); return PTHR_SUCCESS; } Int pthread_cond_signal(pthread_cond_t * cond) { semFlush(cond); return PTHR_SUCCESS; } This seems like a much more reasonable approach (mind you, I've ignored a lot of error testing, return values and the like). It takes care of the race conditions, and works with the scheduler to take care of interactions with tasks coming and going at unpredictable times. The moral of the story is that a VxWorks binary semaphore that is initialized to empty has all of the properties that you want in a condition variable. Keith --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Linking errors Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:34:52 -0500 From: Jon Van Stensel Organization: Smiths Industries Message-ID: <3AA557FB.DF259A23@si.com> References: <3AA50B5E.2F07F978@si.com> <3AA50E63.3090904@snellwilcox.com> Well I changed main() to viewperf() and it got rid of the undefined reference to '__eabi' but the cannot find entry symbol_start remained. However, it allowed me to make further progress until I got to another undefined reference to '_impure_ptr', as follows: ldppc -o viewperf objs/Env.o objs/clock.o objs/texture.o objs/viewperf.o objs/eD.o objs/eI.o objs/eDM.o objs/eIM.o objs/eDA.o objs/eIA.o objs/eDMA.o objs/eIMA.o objs/eDW.o objs/eIW.o objs/eDMW.o objs/eIMW.o objs/eDAW.o objs/eIAW.o objs/eDMAW.o objs/eIMAW.o -Lobjs -Lvpaux/libaux -Lvpaux/libtk - -L/usr/wind/users/stitt/benchmarks/specperf/src/pngxor/libpng - -L/usr/wind/users/stitt/benchmarks/specperf/src/pngxor/zlib - -L/usr/wind/users/stitt/seawind/lib - -L/usr/wind/users/stitt/benchmarks/specperf/src/userlib - -L/usr/wind/tornado20/host/sun4-solaris2/powerpc-wrs-vxworks/lib - -L/usr/wind/tornado20/target/lib -lvp -laux -lpng -lz -lGLU -lGL -lXext -lX11 - -lXvxw -lm -lPPC604gnuvx -ldy4PPC604gnuvx /usr/wind/tornado20/target/config/svme179/version.o /usr/wind/tornado20/target/config/svme179/sysLib.o ldppc: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; defaulting to 00040074 /usr/wind/tornado20/host/sun4-solaris2/powerpc-wrs-vxworks/lib/libm.a(k_standard.o): In function `__kernel_standard': k_standard.o(.text+0x302): undefined reference to `_impure_ptr' k_standard.o(.text+0x306): undefined reference to `_impure_ptr' k_standard.o(.text+0x382): undefined reference to `_impure_ptr' k_standard.o(.text+0x386): undefined reference to `_impure_ptr' k_standard.o(.text+0x40a): undefined reference to `_impure_ptr' /usr/wind/tornado20/host/sun4-solaris2/powerpc-wrs-vxworks/lib/libm.a(k_standard.o)(.text+0x40e): more undefined references to `_impure_ptr' follow make: *** [viewperf] Error 1 _impure_ptr is defined in the symbol table of libm.a in impure.o but either the linker can't use this definition or it can't find it. From tmppc libm.a: impure.o: 00000314 D _impure_ptr 00000000 t gcc2_compiled. 00000000 d inpure_data Thank you for your previous help, and once again any further assistance anyone could provide would be most appreciated. Sincerely, Jon Van Stensel Simon Farnsworth wrote: > Jon Van Stensel wrote: > > > I am porting an OpenGL benchmark to vxWorks and am running in to some > > problems at the linker stage. > > ldppc -o viewperf objs/Env.o objs/clock.o objs/texture.o objs/viewperf.o > > > ldppc: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; defaulting to 00040074 > > objs/viewperf.o: In function `main': > > objs/viewperf.o(.text+0xba1c): undefined reference to `__eabi' > > > As you can see when I try and link viewperf it cannot find entry symbol > > _start. I figure this is a problem with the way I create the object > > file so here is the command line for that. > > It looks like you have a function main() in viewperf.o. Under VxWorks, > main() is not used, and should not be present in any of your source files. > > -- > HTH, > > Simon Farnsworth --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:44:31 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97mcnl$rbg$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <03kt9t0cfhu9k6lc8n40if6tfob7vu43st@4ax.com> <3a9f1767.f400e@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nsvn$42o$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg25$8fl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqcm$d59$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <982f54$32t$3@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:52:24 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:39:40 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:37:09 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:40:52 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >STFGP wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Optional Identity wrote: Nothing. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:02 >> >> >> >> > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> > alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:06:27 >> >> >> >> > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> > >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 >> >> >> >> > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> anything to succeed, by now. >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would >> >> >> >> > >> >> >be surprised if they don't make the final 8. >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> It is about time they did, but they won't win the Grand Final! >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >I doubt they would, but a lot of people would love it if they did. >> >> >> >> > >> >By beating an interstate team or the bombers. >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > >> True, but all those people are wrong! >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >Why so? >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Because if the Bombers can't win an Interstate team is the next best, >> >> >> >> > preferably the Swans! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> NO That is just plain wrong. And for your own safety, don't ever >> >> >> >> say that in a Victorian Pub. Intersate teams are just fine, as long as >> >> >> >> they don't win the grand final...... >> >> >> >> And definately not the Swans. When the were in the Grand Final, all >> >> >> >> of Sydney were so up themselve, not cause the gave a shit about the >> >> >> >> match, just cause they had a chance to beat Victoria in their own game, >> >> >> >> and didn't they shut the fuck up after the Swans lost. And when >> >> >> >> Victoria beat them at their own game and the Storm won... HAHAHA. >> >> >> > >> >> >> That was nearly as much fun as when The Raiders did it 2 years in a >> >> >> row. I knew suggesting the Swans should win would upset you. YHBT. >> >> > >> >> >EABOS. >> >> >I was going for the raiders when they won, then I went for the broncos >> >> >when the started and they won, then I went for the storm and they won. >> >> >I have the magic touch. I don't go for the swans, so they wont win. >> >> > >> >> They won't win because they are shit, which is why you don't go for >> >> them. >> > >> >No, as you pointed out. I'm not from there (there a good band) and >> >I don't like 'em. And them being sucky is an added bonus. >> > >> They are a good band. > >So you got that one did you? I though I would have to explain it. > I am not completely stupid! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:45:03 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <4imaat0qcnosnb5n2pm1vmj16qhhp3hssb@4ax.com> References: <97mcod$rbg$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1794.cdebf@newton.pacific.net.au> <3uau9to7kvja1nvf8aq8bt0j4ccgm9g7gb@4ax.com> <97nt0t$42o$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg4r$8fl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqe3$d59$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f46atg6dtng1u9385ra4uncvgi3mbkv97@4ax.com> <982f7l$32t$4@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:53:52 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:40:25 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:38:27 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:41:32 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:47:17 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:44 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:52:54 >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Are there? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Then there are those who don't like me. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Who wouldn't lik you? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> The same people who don't like you, I guess. I.e. fuckkkheads! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Argh. Yes, those pesky fuckheads. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> A lot of them reside in alt.flame >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Yeah, well then thankfully I don't see them that often. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> It is better that way! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Though a few of them seem to pay attention to us! >> >> >> > >> >> >> Fuck knows why they care, jealousy? >> >> > >> >> >Stupidity? But I gotta say, I do feel loved right now. >> >> > >> >> That is important! >> > >> >Oh yeah. Everyone needs to feel the love and support of >> >all my usenet brethren. >> > >> And those guys are teh acest at love and support! > >Yes, I'm getting so many supportive emails, it's making me >all gooey inside. > I thought it was just me! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:45:56 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <4jmaatst9i1ukr6ugh97d7v5ula7i2b3d2@4ax.com> References: <97mcql$3jf$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f17c7.d0ac6@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt2o$42o$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg6d$8fl$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <10c5atku0m9q2ib1o6b61m60sqgjep1ilb@4ax.com> <97uqg0$d59$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <982df1$bik$1@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:23:45 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:41:26 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:39:22 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:42:32 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:48:08 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:58:55 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that >> >> >> >> >> >> >not everyone is as luck as me. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> I suggest counseling! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle >> >> >> >> >> >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your >> >> >> >> >> >not happy. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Yes, cures all your ills. Come one, come all. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Get your bottle here, roll up roll up! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >And it will make you more attractive, a better dancer, singer, >> >> >> >lover and pool player. >> >> >> > >> >> >> No one would ever complain about being a better pool player! >> >> > >> >> >I refuse to play pool now. My game, which was never great has >> >> >gone downhhill the last few months. >> >> > >> >> Just because you are crap is no excuse, it has never stopped me from >> >> playing. >> > >> >I hate getting beaten by Rob, he sucks too. When I was just bad, I >> >could live with that, but I get beaten when I know I should win. That >> >sucks too much. >> > >> Your ability doesn't match what you know should be done? > >What I have done is more like it. I'm a shadow of my shitful self! > I still play better when I am pissed, though! - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:46:25 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97mcvm$3jf$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1842.8df59@newton.pacific.net.au> <14bu9t0u3rt2c4eh0b58h1mpbkemljkpfu@4ax.com> <97nt4a$42o$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <6r60atk16a5t4k2sp6ho5aju2vibpmf5tc@4ax.com> <97tg81$8fl$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqhs$d59$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <982f9d$32t$5@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:54:41 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:42:23 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:40:24 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> live >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>find. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>actually >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> session, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>hours >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>pissed >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> up >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>vodka >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>set >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> those >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> do >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>could see >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> bottle. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Same goes for Scotch! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yep, it used to be Australian scotch was 37% and Scotch >> >> >> >> >> >> >Scotch was 40%. Easy to spot the difference, now you have >> >> >> >> >> >> >to do some research if you want to avoid the C&N. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Actually, for me, it is the alcohol content that matters to me! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Oh yeah, but back then the C&N was the weaker stuff. So it >> >> >> >> >> >was a real quandry, cheaper scotch, but less % v's less cheaper >> >> >> >> >> >scotch, but with higher %.... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> The false economy thing. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >But thankfully, the government, made the one correct decision in my >> >> >> >> >entire life and rasied all scotch to 40%.... Ya. Now they just need >> >> >> >> >to do it with the rest of the spirit family to make it all even. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> It is embarrassing in teh bottle shop when you have to check teh >> >> >> >> alcohol content before you buy!! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Well now with scotch, you don't have to worry about that. >> >> >> > >> >> >> The Scotch Marketing Board must have bribed the Government. >> >> > >> >> >I think they lobbied them for quiet awhile to get it done, even playing >> >> >field kind of thing. >> >> > >> >> I am surprised the others haven't cited the precedent. And whose idea >> >> was it to change from 750ml bottles to 700? That extra 50mls makes all >> >> the difference! >> > >> >I'd almost forgot about that. Just another way to rip us off. >> > >> It sucks, I got a 1100ml bottle of Slolichnaya for $9.50 duty free >> when I went OS. > >Aaarrrrrggghhhh, duty free. You gonna share that? > I drank it in Brasil... - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:46:54 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3170atk9f6el59t03pvk0r11uru4fpaule@4ax.com> <97tgai$8fl$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <24c5atktd61dv54sma1mc4rlsibbkuths0@4ax.com> <97uqiv$d59$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <982fa7$32t$6@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:55:17 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:43:00 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:41:43 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried >> >> >> >> >> >> >and hopefully never will. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am sorry >> >> >> >> >> >> for bringing it up! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it will stop >> >> >> >> >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed anyway. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after >> >> >> >drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Same goes for guns and rifles. >> >> > >> >> >Ah, I'm not a gun kind of person. Any dick can shoot you when >> >> >they are pissed off. And not take it back later when they sover up. >> >> > >> >> Exactly, and heavy machinery. >> > >> >Or cars, people should be more responsible. >> > >> They should, or they shouldn't be allowed to drink. > >Yes. Though the punishment is mean, it is fair. > They have to learn somehow. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Multiply defined symbols Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:54:01 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983915918.821793@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AA52BBB.BA4DB7EB@sbei.com> <983914591.325454@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> Sorry, misspelled some things You probably tried to link a module into the image that has already been munched. This is the process of finding all constructor calls in your programm and add it to a list _ctors. Likely, all destructors are added to a list called _dtors. Normally, the .out file will be munched, whereas the .o are _not_ munched. Use the .o file instead of the .out file to link with the VxWorks Image I hope I got it right this time hth werner --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: warnings Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:53:24 -0500 From: "Alexandre Gouraud" Organization: Nortel Message-ID: <983m8m$kok$1@bmerhc5e.ca.nortel.com> I get those warnings, and I don't know how to remove them without changing Wind River's source code. Is it a bug, or do I use the include files in a wrong way ? /tools/target/include/net/mbuf.h:257: warning: redundant redeclaration of `netMblkClFree' in same scope /tools/target/include/netBufLib.h:475: warning: previous declaration of `netMblkClFree' /tools/target/include/net/mbuf.h:262: warning: redundant redeclaration of `netMblkClChainFree' in same scope /tools/target/include/netBufLib.h:476: warning: previous declaration of `netMblkClChainFree' --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How to find the function name? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:22:49 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <983nmb$hvh$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <97ovd3$1ip$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <3AA06920.F4921455@yahoo.com> Hi, I got it : objdump. Now I can check all the information I need. Have a nice day Pierre Frigon wrote in message news:3AA06920.F4921455@yahoo.com... > If you are using Tornado II there is an option in the IDE that enables adding > static symbols to the symbol table. These are not added by default. You could > also load your object files using this syntax which is equivalent : ld (1) < > myLib.o > > There is also a function that looks like lkupAddr() you can call from the shell > that finds a symbol given a specified address (assuming that the symbol exists > in the symbol table). > > Hope this helps > > "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" wrote: > > > Hi > > > > When the system crash, we print out a trace with each line including the > > function pointer and function name. > > > > My problem is : some functions are declared as static function so they can't > > be shown out correctly by just retrieving its name from sysSymTbl. > > (Am I wrong? Please point out the correct reason ) > > > > There must be a way to read the executable file(or some other files?) and > > find the name by its function pointer. How? > > > > Thanks > > Freeman > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How to find the function name? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:42:45 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <983orn$i9r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <97ovd3$1ip$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <3AA06920.F4921455@yahoo.com> Another tool is also available : nm Freeman Pierre Frigon wrote in message news:3AA06920.F4921455@yahoo.com... > If you are using Tornado II there is an option in the IDE that enables adding > static symbols to the symbol table. These are not added by default. You could > also load your object files using this syntax which is equivalent : ld (1) < > myLib.o > > There is also a function that looks like lkupAddr() you can call from the shell > that finds a symbol given a specified address (assuming that the symbol exists > in the symbol table). > > Hope this helps > > "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" wrote: > > > Hi > > > > When the system crash, we print out a trace with each line including the > > function pointer and function name. > > > > My problem is : some functions are declared as static function so they can't > > be shown out correctly by just retrieving its name from sysSymTbl. > > (Am I wrong? Please point out the correct reason ) > > > > There must be a way to read the executable file(or some other files?) and > > find the name by its function pointer. How? > > > > Thanks > > Freeman > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.arm,comp.os.vxworks Subject: Binary files and Gnu tools. Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 23:03:49 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <3AA55D49.243A0491@online.no> <1wdp6.1177$y6.197073@ruti.visi.com> <3AA56A15.9ABB46C0@online.no> <3AA4FF58.E69782C5@sepro-robotique.com> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck Joe> Well, the other way was to just write a small piece of C which Joe> converted all the data in "picture.bin" to gas source such as I found the linker file where I have done this, [start] /* Define the memory regions. */ MEMORY { ram : ORIGIN = 0x00000000, LENGTH = 0x00100000 flash : ORIGIN = 0xf0000000, LENGTH = 0x00200000 } /* Include the version linked to flash at the * end of the code section. We must return to * ELF mode so that files on the command line * get processed properly. */ TARGET(binary) INPUT(file.bin) /* Change this to ARM or whatever architecture you wish. */ TARGET(elf32-m68k) /* This defines the order of the load. */ SECTIONS { .text : { _stext = . ; *(.text) *(.rodata) . = ALIGN(0x10); file.bin _etext = . ; } > ram .data : { _sdata = . ; *(.data) _edata = . ; } > ram .bss : { _sbss = . ; *(.bss) *(COMMON) _ebss = . ; } > ram } [end] The symbol names are _binary_file_bin_end and _binary_file_bin_start. In `C' you would use extern and in assembler (gas) you would us .globl. I put the binary data in the `.text' or code section, so it is const or romable data. It could go in the other sections. regards, Bill Pringlemeir - -- Have you ever been called by your owner while throwing stuff you found on the ground? Or had your telephone eat your mail in a garbage dump? Or been given seven modems made out of your dog? You will. And the company that will bring it to you: AT&T. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: network driver hang problem Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:58:18 -0700 From: Adam Wolinski Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <983r34$oil$1@overload.lbl.gov> I am using the AMD Am79C973 10/100 PCI Ethernet Controller with the WR supplied ln97xEnd driver. This is working fine except when I send larger packets (ping with 4000 or 5000+ bytes) it hangs. I get a "Request timed out error" and I cannot communicate at all over the network until I reboot the board. This is very repeatable, but it varies how often (sometimes within 10 pings and sometimes over 100). I am using Tornado 2.0 with CP #3, TSR #34250 (ln97xEnd driver patch collection), and TSR #26962 (ping of death) patches installed. Has anyone else seen this or have any ideas? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Adam Wolinski Chaparral Network Storage, Inc. awolinski@chaparralnet.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Multiply defined symbols Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:06:19 -0800 From: "Michael R. Kesti" Organization: MK Associates Message-ID: <3AA5B3BB.1F372120@gv.net> References: <3AA52BBB.BA4DB7EB@sbei.com> <983914591.325454@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> Reply-To: mkesti@gv.net Werner Schiendl wrote: >If you linked in the .out file, just use the .o file and you are out of >trouble. This works well for a small number of object files, but is a pain as their number grows. One thing one can do is to define a POST_BUILD_RULE macro that uses the "ar" utility to create an archive of the object files, and link in the archive. - -- ======================================================================== Michael Kesti | "And like, one and one don't make | two, one and one make one." mkesti@gv.net | - The Who, Bargain --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: VXWTask vs task lifecycle Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 04:36:03 GMT From: Pierre Frigon Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <3AA5BACB.1D49AF81@yahoo.com> References: <3aa353e3.3178680@news.belgium.eu.net> I beleive that all these wrappers are provided in source form. Look at the code for this class. "Jean-François Daune" wrote: > Hi all, > > I use VXWTask class in my application, and the WRS documentation > provides no information about the lifecycle of a VXWTask object vs the > lifecycle of its associated VxWorks task (A comparison of both). > > I am concerned by the task deletion. I wonder what is the state of > the VXWTask object when the task completes (entry function returns) or > is deleted from the WindShell (using td). > > I also wonder if the object is deleted by the OS (i.e, ~VXWTask stops > the task, but does the reciprocal relationship exist ?), or if I have > to free the resources myself (i.e., call the destructor) ? > > Any help is welcome. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Jean-François Daune --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: [Help Me] task Delay less than sys clk tick Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 04:54:07 GMT From: Pierre Frigon Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <3AA5BF07.E3B730B7@yahoo.com> References: <9833a5$eo21@cui1.lmms.lmco.com> Using nanosleep has the same resolution as the system clock. So that wouldn't do it. The reason your delay is less that 1 clock tick is because the taskDelay routine delays until x number of occurences of the system clock interrupt. So if you are very close to the next occurence of the clock tick you will be delayed only for a very short time. Timers are based on interrupts so the resolution of any timer is not better than the resolution of the interrupt it is hooked up to. "M. Kotiaho" wrote: > "Kim, Jeong-Hwan" wrote in message > news:Fq3p6.211$qP.5115@news2.bora.net... > > How can I delay a process less than one system clock tick ? > > For example, when I set system clock using sysClkRateSet(60) > > how can I delay less than 1/60 second ? > > If I use taskDelay(), I can delay only 1/60. > > I'm using MPC8260 > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Kim > > > > You could use nanosleep(), or if available on your system, you > could try using the auxiliary clock (sysAuxClkConnect, etc.). > > Markku --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: VxSim running on win98? Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 05:01:43 GMT From: "Ming Tai" Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: References: <983jg6$1r38$1@thoth.cts.com> How about Win ME? can I run Vxsim on WIN ME Thanks "Frank" wrote in message news:983jg6$1r38$1@thoth.cts.com... > Does anyone know if Tornado2 for all simulators can run on win98? The > installation calls for winNT or Solaris. If not is there a way to compile > (not necessarily run) for vxWorks under windows98? > > thanks > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: VxSim running on win98? Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:48:17 -0800 From: DrDiags Organization: laserlink.net Message-ID: <3AA5BD91.1BB6EBAD@covad.net> References: <983jg6$1r38$1@thoth.cts.com> Reply-To: drdiags@covad.net Frank, 17-Dec-00.16:33 CD manufacturing time: Fri Jul 16 20:49:40 PDT 1999 17-Dec-00.16:33 TDK-12840-ZC-01 SETUP-2.0 D:\Tornado2_SIM 17-Dec-00.16:33 Microsoft Windows 98 version 4.90 (Build 3000) 17-Dec-00.16:33 100-9884-30 Tornado Full Simulator: WindowsNT 17-Dec-00.16:34 100-10026-30 Tornado Object: WindowsNT x simnt Frank wrote: > Does anyone know if Tornado2 for all simulators can run on win98? The > installation calls for winNT or Solaris. If not is there a way to compile > (not necessarily run) for vxWorks under windows98? > > thanks --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: VxSim running on win98? Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:05:21 -0800 From: DrDiags Organization: laserlink.net Message-ID: <3AA5C191.7EC81596@covad.net> References: <983jg6$1r38$1@thoth.cts.com> Reply-To: drdiags@covad.net Frank, Let me try that again. Tornado 2 for all simulators can be installed on win95/win98 machines. There are executables setup for these hosts. I have ran it on a Win98 box which I have upgraded to Win ME and I have not noticed any obvious problems. But, you are correct in the fact that I am not able to use a ULIP interface on a non-NT windows machine. The driver didn't work for me on ME and I never tried it on Win98. I have not checked within the last 3 months to see whether the ULIP driver had been ported to install under a non-NT machine. Maybe some others can expand on the networking aspect of the simulator. Frank wrote: > Does anyone know if Tornado2 for all simulators can run on win98? The > installation calls for winNT or Solaris. If not is there a way to compile > (not necessarily run) for vxWorks under windows98? > > thanks --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: problem with open file descriptors Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:29:43 +0530 From: Navneeth Organization: Lucent Technologies, Columbus, Ohio Message-ID: <3AA5DC5F.AF373987@bell-labs.com> Hi I have an application on VxWorks where in I need to create up to 250 sockets. I found out that NUM_FILES had been set to 50 so that the maximum number of Open FDs in the task be restricted to 50. This has been changed to 256. But on running the application, after opening around 64 sockets, the OS is unable to open new sockets. checked the errno and it says "No buffer space available". Could somebody throw light on this problem and provide a solution I am using Tornado2.0 for vxworks5.4 Regards Navneeth --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Serial Interrupts Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:52:10 +0200 From: "Randall" Message-ID: <3aa5e865$0$30372@helios.is.co.za> Hi all, I'm writing a application that communicates with other hardware via the serial ports. At present I poll the serial ports for any received data and then read it when data is received. This is obviously very inefficient. I want to read data from the ports only when data is actually received on the ports. I have tried various ways of using the serial interrupts to read the data. e.g. STATUS intConnect ( (VOIDFUNCPTR *) INUM_TO_IVEC(0x20), VOIDFUNCPTR routine, /* routine to be called */ int parameter ) STATUS tyIRd ( TY_DEV_ID pTyDev, /* ptr to tty device descriptor */ char inchar /* character read */ ) None of these seem to work for me. Am I doing something wrong and if so, is there anyone who could point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance RMichau --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: [Help Me] task Delay less than sys clk tick Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:08:52 GMT From: "dgold1" Organization: Road Runner Message-ID: References: <9833a5$eo21@cui1.lmms.lmco.com> <3AA5BF07.E3B730B7@yahoo.com> >> "Kim, Jeong-Hwan" wrote in message >> news:Fq3p6.211$qP.5115@news2.bora.net... >> > How can I delay a process less than one system clock tick ? >> > For example, when I set system clock using sysClkRateSet(60) >> > how can I delay less than 1/60 second ? >> > If I use taskDelay(), I can delay only 1/60. >> > I'm using MPC8260 >> > You can read the decrementer register with vxDecGet(), and handle the case of it wrapping, or you could also read (since you're on a PPC) the time base registers. I thought all the PPC BSPs came with a vxWorks function to read the time base registers, or you can write a simple one patterned after the others in sysAlib.s. hth, Dan Gold gold@ensemblecom.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: WRS SNMP stack Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:39:20 +0100 From: "Achim Zimmer" Organization: Colt Telecom GmbH Message-ID: <984s3s$1ug$1@crusher.de.colt.net> Hi folks, my task is to implement SNMP functions to our device. Now I'm asking WRS about the SNMP stack they provide. Can anybody tell me experiences with that stack ? How about including, defining private MIB's, is it all source code a.s.o. ??? Thanks in advance Achim --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Link a picture to a ROM-image Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:01:21 +0100 From: Emmanuel Herbreteau Organization: SEPRO Robotique (BEP) Message-ID: <3AA5F8E1.E2262D12@sepro-robotique.com> References: <3AA4FF58.E69782C5@sepro-robotique.com> Lee DeRaud wrote: > Use the binToAsm utility to convert your (binary) bitmap file to Thanks a lot for your answer ! - -- Best regards Emmanuel --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Serial Interrupts Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:01:57 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983959596.322388@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3aa5e865$0$30372@helios.is.co.za> Did you check out the sources located in $(WIND_BASE)/target/src/drv/serial and maybe the file sysSerial.c (in the BSP directory, does the setup at boottime)? otherwise I think a little more detail would help. does it crash immediately, crash when data arrives, just not receive anything,...? hth werner Randall wrote in message news:3aa5e865$0$30372@helios.is.co.za... > Hi all, > > I'm writing a application that communicates with other hardware via the > serial > ports. At present I poll the serial ports for any received data and then > read it when data > is received. This is obviously very inefficient. I want to read data from > the ports only when > data is actually received on the ports. > > I have tried various ways of using the serial interrupts to read the data. > > e.g. > STATUS intConnect ( (VOIDFUNCPTR *) INUM_TO_IVEC(0x20), > VOIDFUNCPTR routine, /* routine > to be called */ > int parameter ) > > > STATUS tyIRd > ( > TY_DEV_ID pTyDev, /* ptr to tty device descriptor */ > char inchar /* character read */ > ) > > None of these seem to work for me. Am I doing something wrong and if so, is > there anyone who could point > me in the right direction. > > Thanks in advance > RMichau > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Multiply defined symbols Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:04:51 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983959770.625019@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AA52BBB.BA4DB7EB@sbei.com> <983914591.325454@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <3AA5B3BB.1F372120@gv.net> As long as you add the .o files, this should work fine. If you add the .out files to the library this will fail Doesn't the T2 IDE come with an appropriate build target to get that library? I don't think you need to write that rule yourself. hth werner Michael R. Kesti wrote in message news:3AA5B3BB.1F372120@gv.net... > Werner Schiendl wrote: > > > >If you linked in the .out file, just use the .o file and you are out of > >trouble. > > This works well for a small number of object files, but is a pain as their > number grows. One thing one can do is to define a POST_BUILD_RULE macro > that uses the "ar" utility to create an archive of the object files, and > link in the archive. > > -- > ======================================================================== > Michael Kesti | "And like, one and one don't make > | two, one and one make one." > mkesti@gv.net | - The Who, Bargain --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: some basic questions... Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:18:37 +0100 From: "Mike" Message-ID: <3aa60a10$0$21482@SSP1NO25.highway.telekom.at> Greetings, i would be gratefull if someone could answer some of the following questions: What exactly is a realtime operating system? What other types of operating systems exists? Is VxWorks a realtime os? Is Windows a realtime os? Is it possible to run VxWorks and Windows at the same time on one (intel x86 based) system? (someone told me it would be possible but i am uncertain - i realy wonder about resource management... - cache, memory, filesystem access...) Thats it, thx in advance for any help, Mike --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: some basic questions... Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:32:03 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983961402.891794@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3aa60a10$0$21482@SSP1NO25.highway.telekom.at> Mike wrote in message news:3aa60a10$0$21482@SSP1NO25.highway.telekom.at... > Greetings, > > i would be gratefull if someone could answer some of the following > questions: > What exactly is a realtime operating system? A bit hard to do in just some words. Basically it means that the execution time is predictable (at least to a very high degree) Usually means to enforce that timing are provided (Watchdogtimers, Profiling - WindView in the case of WRS tools) Interrupt response time is much faster than for ordinary desktop OS. It also is normally much smaller and does require less resources than ordinary OS (but this is in fact a property of an embedded OS) > What other types of operating systems exists? > Is VxWorks a realtime os? Yes. > Is Windows a realtime os? No, at least not yet (well this is my opinion, nothing more...). There are plans to get Windows CE (Windows Powered) Realtime > Is it possible to run VxWorks and Windows at the same time on one (intel x86 > based) system? There is a third party thing that makes it possible VxWin (developed by a german company named LP Elektronik) Do a search on the internet to find details, I have no URL right now... > (someone told me it would be possible but i am uncertain - i realy wonder > about resource management... - cache, memory, filesystem access...) > It basically uses a hardware timer to invoke an NMI on the CPU, which will start the VxWorks part. The method is patented, as far as I know... hth Werner --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: some basic questions... Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:54:54 +0100 From: "Mike" Message-ID: <3aa61290$0$25782@SSP1NO25.highway.telekom.at> References: <3aa60a10$0$21482@SSP1NO25.highway.telekom.at> <983961402.891794@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> Thx for the quick response - -Mike Werner Schiendl schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: 983961402.891794@newsmaster-04.atnet.at... > > Mike wrote in message > news:3aa60a10$0$21482@SSP1NO25.highway.telekom.at... > > Greetings, > > > > i would be gratefull if someone could answer some of the following > > questions: > > What exactly is a realtime operating system? > > A bit hard to do in just some words. > > Basically it means that the execution time is predictable (at least to a > very high degree) > Usually means to enforce that timing are provided (Watchdogtimers, > Profiling - WindView in the case of WRS tools) > Interrupt response time is much faster than for ordinary desktop OS. > It also is normally much smaller and does require less resources than > ordinary OS (but this is in fact a property of an embedded OS) > > > What other types of operating systems exists? > > Is VxWorks a realtime os? > > Yes. > > > Is Windows a realtime os? > > No, at least not yet (well this is my opinion, nothing more...). > There are plans to get Windows CE (Windows Powered) Realtime > > > Is it possible to run VxWorks and Windows at the same time on one (intel > x86 > > based) system? > > There is a third party thing that makes it possible > VxWin (developed by a german company named LP Elektronik) > Do a search on the internet to find details, I have no URL right now... > > > (someone told me it would be possible but i am uncertain - i realy wonder > > about resource management... - cache, memory, filesystem access...) > > > > It basically uses a hardware timer to invoke an NMI on the CPU, which will > start the VxWorks part. > The method is patented, as far as I know... > > hth > Werner > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: changing console options Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:56:26 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983962866.97656@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <98523v$nog$1@news.netmar.com> Do you use the T2 project facility? In that case, usrRoot is automatically generated in the file prjConfig.c in the project dir. Manual changes to the BSP will therefore not come into effect (most of the time, to make it even worse ;-). To do it with the T2 project facility you should try to get it into usrAppInit.c file of the project. If that is not possible, make sure that the part you change is really included into the image. I usually add an #error directive to find out. (Somewhat crude, but does a good job usually). hth werner wrote in message news:98523v$nog$1@news.netmar.com... > I am trying to remove XON/XOFF handling from my console using following code > from my root task: > int options = ioctl(consoleFd, FIOGETOPTIONS, 0); > (void) ioctl(consoleFd, FIOSETOPTIONS, options & ~(OPT_TANDEM)); > > Unfortunately, the shell is resetting console options back to OPT_TERMINAL > (with OPT_TANDEM being turned on). > > I found out that the only way I can change console terminal options is > interactively using shell command: > ioctl 3,3,0x7b > > Is there any other way for it? I have to remove XON/XOFF option > programmatically and not interactively. Can I use startup script? How can it > be done? > > Michael > > > > > > ----- Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the eb ----- > http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups > NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam. If this or other posts > made through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email abuse@newsone.net --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:58:26 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <9857ci$gai$5@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97mcnl$rbg$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <03kt9t0cfhu9k6lc8n40if6tfob7vu43st@4ax.com> <3a9f1767.f400e@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nsvn$42o$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg25$8fl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqcm$d59$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <982f54$32t$3@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:52:24 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:39:40 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:37:09 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:40:52 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >STFGP wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Optional Identity wrote: Nothing. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:02 > >> >> >> >> > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> > alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:06:27 > >> >> >> >> > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 > >> >> >> >> > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> anything to succeed, by now. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >be surprised if they don't make the final 8. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> It is about time they did, but they won't win the Grand Final! > >> >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >I doubt they would, but a lot of people would love it if they did. > >> >> >> >> > >> >By beating an interstate team or the bombers. > >> >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> True, but all those people are wrong! > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > >Why so? > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > Because if the Bombers can't win an Interstate team is the next best, > >> >> >> >> > preferably the Swans! > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> NO That is just plain wrong. And for your own safety, don't ever > >> >> >> >> say that in a Victorian Pub. Intersate teams are just fine, as long as > >> >> >> >> they don't win the grand final...... > >> >> >> >> And definately not the Swans. When the were in the Grand Final, all > >> >> >> >> of Sydney were so up themselve, not cause the gave a shit about the > >> >> >> >> match, just cause they had a chance to beat Victoria in their own game, > >> >> >> >> and didn't they shut the fuck up after the Swans lost. And when > >> >> >> >> Victoria beat them at their own game and the Storm won... HAHAHA. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> That was nearly as much fun as when The Raiders did it 2 years in a > >> >> >> row. I knew suggesting the Swans should win would upset you. YHBT. > >> >> > > >> >> >EABOS. > >> >> >I was going for the raiders when they won, then I went for the broncos > >> >> >when the started and they won, then I went for the storm and they won. > >> >> >I have the magic touch. I don't go for the swans, so they wont win. > >> >> > > >> >> They won't win because they are shit, which is why you don't go for > >> >> them. > >> > > >> >No, as you pointed out. I'm not from there (there a good band) and > >> >I don't like 'em. And them being sucky is an added bonus. > >> > > >> They are a good band. > > > >So you got that one did you? I though I would have to explain it. > > > I am not completely stupid! Well not everyone would know a semi famous Brisbane band. Do you like them? > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:59:04 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <9857do$gai$6@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97mcod$rbg$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1794.cdebf@newton.pacific.net.au> <3uau9to7kvja1nvf8aq8bt0j4ccgm9g7gb@4ax.com> <97nt0t$42o$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg4r$8fl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqe3$d59$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f46atg6dtng1u9385ra4uncvgi3mbkv97@4ax.com> <982f7l$32t$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <4imaat0qcnosnb5n2pm1vmj16qhhp Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:53:52 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:40:25 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:38:27 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:41:32 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:47:17 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:44 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:52:54 > >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Are there? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Then there are those who don't like me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Who wouldn't lik you? > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> The same people who don't like you, I guess. I.e. fuckkkheads! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Argh. Yes, those pesky fuckheads. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> A lot of them reside in alt.flame > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Yeah, well then thankfully I don't see them that often. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> It is better that way! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Though a few of them seem to pay attention to us! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Fuck knows why they care, jealousy? > >> >> > > >> >> >Stupidity? But I gotta say, I do feel loved right now. > >> >> > > >> >> That is important! > >> > > >> >Oh yeah. Everyone needs to feel the love and support of > >> >all my usenet brethren. > >> > > >> And those guys are teh acest at love and support! > > > >Yes, I'm getting so many supportive emails, it's making me > >all gooey inside. > > > I thought it was just me! Nah, everyone loves us. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:01:01 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <9857he$gai$7@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97mcql$3jf$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f17c7.d0ac6@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt2o$42o$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg6d$8fl$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <10c5atku0m9q2ib1o6b61m60sqgjep1ilb@4ax.com> <97uqg0$d59$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <982df1$bik$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <4jmaatst9i1ukr6ugh97d7v5ula7 Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:23:45 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:41:26 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:39:22 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:42:32 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:48:08 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:58:55 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 > >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that > >> >> >> >> >> >> >not everyone is as luck as me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> I suggest counseling! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle > >> >> >> >> >> >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your > >> >> >> >> >> >not happy. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Yes, cures all your ills. Come one, come all. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Get your bottle here, roll up roll up! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >And it will make you more attractive, a better dancer, singer, > >> >> >> >lover and pool player. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> No one would ever complain about being a better pool player! > >> >> > > >> >> >I refuse to play pool now. My game, which was never great has > >> >> >gone downhhill the last few months. > >> >> > > >> >> Just because you are crap is no excuse, it has never stopped me from > >> >> playing. > >> > > >> >I hate getting beaten by Rob, he sucks too. When I was just bad, I > >> >could live with that, but I get beaten when I know I should win. That > >> >sucks too much. > >> > > >> Your ability doesn't match what you know should be done? > > > >What I have done is more like it. I'm a shadow of my shitful self! > > > I still play better when I am pissed, though! There's a scientific study which proves that after a few drinks that you tend to play better after a few drinks. Though that goes down exponentially to the amount of drinks you have. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:01:41 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <9857ip$gai$8@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97mcvm$3jf$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f1842.8df59@newton.pacific.net.au> <14bu9t0u3rt2c4eh0b58h1mpbkemljkpfu@4ax.com> <97nt4a$42o$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <6r60atk16a5t4k2sp6ho5aju2vibpmf5tc@4ax.com> <97tg81$8fl$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqhs$d59$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <982f9d$32t$5@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:54:41 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:42:23 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:40:24 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> live > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>with. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>find. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>actually > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> session, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>hours > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>pissed > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> up > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> that > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>vodka > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>set > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> those > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> do > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>the > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>could see > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> bottle. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Same goes for Scotch! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yep, it used to be Australian scotch was 37% and Scotch > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Scotch was 40%. Easy to spot the difference, now you have > >> >> >> >> >> >> >to do some research if you want to avoid the C&N. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Actually, for me, it is the alcohol content that matters to me! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Oh yeah, but back then the C&N was the weaker stuff. So it > >> >> >> >> >> >was a real quandry, cheaper scotch, but less % v's less cheaper > >> >> >> >> >> >scotch, but with higher %.... > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> The false economy thing. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >But thankfully, the government, made the one correct decision in my > >> >> >> >> >entire life and rasied all scotch to 40%.... Ya. Now they just need > >> >> >> >> >to do it with the rest of the spirit family to make it all even. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> It is embarrassing in teh bottle shop when you have to check teh > >> >> >> >> alcohol content before you buy!! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Well now with scotch, you don't have to worry about that. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> The Scotch Marketing Board must have bribed the Government. > >> >> > > >> >> >I think they lobbied them for quiet awhile to get it done, even playing > >> >> >field kind of thing. > >> >> > > >> >> I am surprised the others haven't cited the precedent. And whose idea > >> >> was it to change from 750ml bottles to 700? That extra 50mls makes all > >> >> the difference! > >> > > >> >I'd almost forgot about that. Just another way to rip us off. > >> > > >> It sucks, I got a 1100ml bottle of Slolichnaya for $9.50 duty free > >> when I went OS. > > > >Aaarrrrrggghhhh, duty free. You gonna share that? > > > I drank it in Brasil... What about when you came back? > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:02:09 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <9857jh$gai$9@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3170atk9f6el59t03pvk0r11uru4fpaule@4ax.com> <97tgai$8fl$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <24c5atktd61dv54sma1mc4rlsibbkuths0@4ax.com> <97uqiv$d59$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <982fa7$32t$6@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:55:17 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:43:00 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:41:43 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried > >> >> >> >> >> >> >and hopefully never will. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am sorry > >> >> >> >> >> >> for bringing it up! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it will stop > >> >> >> >> >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed anyway. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after > >> >> >> >drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Same goes for guns and rifles. > >> >> > > >> >> >Ah, I'm not a gun kind of person. Any dick can shoot you when > >> >> >they are pissed off. And not take it back later when they sover up. > >> >> > > >> >> Exactly, and heavy machinery. > >> > > >> >Or cars, people should be more responsible. > >> > > >> They should, or they shouldn't be allowed to drink. > > > >Yes. Though the punishment is mean, it is fair. > > > They have to learn somehow. And it's up to us to teach them. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: [Q] END Driver Problems(Including Source code) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 21:58:49 +0900 From: Won Jae Cha Organization: Solar Telecom. Technology Co., Ltd Message-ID: <3AA63088.A4CC3B87@solartt.co.kr> Hi all, I'm writing an END driver for IPOA(IP over ATM). It seems working so good, but there are some problems. I made a RAM disk on VxWorks, and created FTP as a server. - When I GET a large file(over 1Kbytes) or small file(about 350bytes) from the server(using IPOA END), it working good. - But, when I tried PUT a large packet(over 1Kbytes), the packet was injured by something(??) operation. - However PUTting short packet(about 350 bytes) was good. If you need full code, then I'll send the code to you. Thank you. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Serial Interrupts Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:53:36 +0100 From: "Achim Zimmer" Organization: Colt Telecom GmbH Message-ID: <985b0j$6aa$1@crusher.de.colt.net> References: <3aa5e865$0$30372@helios.is.co.za> <983959596.322388@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> If you are using a Motorola processor you have to configure the buffer descriptors to mask the interupt. If you do not do it you will never get an interupt if data arrives. If you have another processsor maybe there is something else to adjust. Achim Werner Schiendl schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: 983959596.322388@newsmaster-04.atnet.at... > Did you check out the sources located in > $(WIND_BASE)/target/src/drv/serial > > and maybe the file sysSerial.c (in the BSP directory, does the setup at > boottime)? > > otherwise I think a little more detail would help. > > does it crash immediately, crash when data arrives, just not receive > anything,...? > > hth > werner > > Randall wrote in message > news:3aa5e865$0$30372@helios.is.co.za... > > Hi all, > > > > I'm writing a application that communicates with other hardware via the > > serial > > ports. At present I poll the serial ports for any received data and then > > read it when data > > is received. This is obviously very inefficient. I want to read data from > > the ports only when > > data is actually received on the ports. > > > > I have tried various ways of using the serial interrupts to read the data. > > > > e.g. > > STATUS intConnect ( (VOIDFUNCPTR *) INUM_TO_IVEC(0x20), > > VOIDFUNCPTR routine, /* routine > > to be called */ > > int parameter ) > > > > > > STATUS tyIRd > > ( > > TY_DEV_ID pTyDev, /* ptr to tty device descriptor */ > > char inchar /* character read */ > > ) > > > > None of these seem to work for me. Am I doing something wrong and if so, > is > > there anyone who could point > > me in the right direction. > > > > Thanks in advance > > RMichau > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Combining downloadable and bootable projects Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:55:38 -0500 From: "Baron, Ken" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <985fqk$ftc$1@overload.lbl.gov> We are using Tornado2 and VxWorks 5.4 on a few projects with Radstone PowerPC VME cards. During development I would like to boot to a configured VxWorks System Image. And then download/redownload my object file(s). For delivery I want to combine my application object(s) to my configured VxWorks System. I plan to use a Downloadable T2 Project for my application and two builds of one Bootable T2 Project. The first build of the Bootable project will contain just the configured VxWorks and the second build will somehow link in my application object(s). I would appreciate any comments or recommendations on this subject. What has worked best for you? Note that a recent thread here discussed linkage and execution speed. How does this affect the various approaches to T2 projects? Ken Baron BAE SYSTEMS Reconnaissance & Surveillance Systems MS 28, 300 Robbins Lane, Syosset, NY 11791 Voice: (516) 349-2132 Fax: (516) 349-2211 Email: ken.baron@lmco.com (temporary) Email: ken.baron@baesystems.com (eventually) --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: link to archive of this newsgroup? Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:19:27 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <985fo2$22u$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Hi Is there an archive site of this newsgroup? Thanks Xiaoguang --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.realtime,comp.os.vxworks Subject: counting semaphores Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:56:54 -0500 From: viv Organization: Lucent Technologies, Columbus, Ohio Message-ID: <3AA64C36.57B2DFE6@lucent.com> How do the counting semaphore solve the problem of mutual exclusion. the VxWorks programming manual talks of a example of 5 tape drives being protected by a counting semaphores. so 5 tasks can take this semaphore but they can use the same tape drive and cause problems. I think i am missing something here. Thanks, viv --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.realtime,comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: counting semaphores Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:25:04 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983978989.185082@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AA64C36.57B2DFE6@lucent.com> Maybe I am missing something to But I think it is simply a bad example. I could imagine to use a counting semaphore to limit the number of jobs that are simultaneously started, but from different locations. (Maybe by local means or remote) But if you need a management like in the tape drive example, you will got far easier with binary or mutex semaphores. The advantages of using the mutex semaphore is described well in the manuals. I guess the disadvantage is somewhat more overhead than the binary. hth werner viv wrote in message news:3AA64C36.57B2DFE6@lucent.com... > How do the counting semaphore solve the problem of mutual exclusion. the > VxWorks programming manual talks of a example of 5 tape drives being > protected by a counting semaphores. so 5 tasks can take this semaphore > but they can use the same tape drive and cause problems. I think i am > missing something here. > > Thanks, > viv --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: link to archive of this newsgroup? Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:27:29 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <985fo2$22u$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>>>> "WX" == Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman) writes: WX> Hi Is there an archive site of this newsgroup? "http://groups.google.com/" or "http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_ugroup=comp.os.vxworks&as_uauthors=+" hth, Bill - -- Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: bootLoadModule Date: 7 Mar 2001 16:38:44 +0100 From: bpatel@princetonoptical.com (Bhavesh Patel) Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: <3AA65695.31A49E27@princetonoptical.com> Hi, Can someone tell me whether bootLoadModule() is in which library. bhavesh - -- Posted from 64-56-57-146.comcasttel.net [64.56.57.146] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: bootLoadModule Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:46:46 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983980285.302758@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AA65695.31A49E27@princetonoptical.com> it's declared in $(WIND_BASE)/target/h/bootLoadLib.h and contained in the large vxWorks libraries it does not seem to be contained in one of the .o files I have in my libs dir... hth werner Bhavesh Patel wrote in message news:3AA65695.31A49E27@princetonoptical.com... > Hi, > > Can someone tell me whether bootLoadModule() is in which library. > > bhavesh > > > -- > Posted from 64-56-57-146.comcasttel.net [64.56.57.146] > via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Combining downloadable and bootable projects Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:01:57 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983981196.781316@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <985fqk$ftc$1@overload.lbl.gov> If you do your application in a single Tornado 2 downloadable project the most obvious approach for release is probably build the library version of that project. Then, add the initialization code you will probably invoke at the shell prompt now to usrAppInit in the VxWorks custum configured project (make it depend on a preprocessor macro, whether you compile the project in) Create a second build target for the VxWorks custom configured project that links in the library from step one and defines the preprocessor macro. Now for test you work as up to now. For a release build, build the library, then build the release version of VxWorks Attention: Linking in the .out File that falls out from the first project does not work because of the way WRS tools handle the C++ static construction/destruction. Instead of building a library from your application you can link the individual .o Files into the VxWorks Image or try to build a combined .o file that is _not_ munched. But there is nothing to win as long as you do not plan to use symbol table lookups and other tricky stuff in your application... The performance should not differ between downloading the files in development mode and the linked image. The only difference can arise from different compiler settings (include debug info, optimization level) hth werner Baron, Ken wrote in message news:985fqk$ftc$1@overload.lbl.gov... > We are using Tornado2 and VxWorks 5.4 on a few projects with Radstone > PowerPC VME cards. > During development I would like to boot to a configured VxWorks System > Image. And then > download/redownload my object file(s). For delivery I want to combine my > application object(s) to > my configured VxWorks System. I plan to use a Downloadable T2 Project for my > application and > two builds of one Bootable T2 Project. The first build of the Bootable > project will contain just the > configured VxWorks and the second build will somehow link in my application > object(s). > > I would appreciate any comments or recommendations on this subject. > What has worked best for you? > Note that a recent thread here discussed linkage and execution speed. > How does this affect the various approaches to T2 projects? > > Ken Baron > BAE SYSTEMS > Reconnaissance & Surveillance Systems > MS 28, 300 Robbins Lane, Syosset, NY 11791 > Voice: (516) 349-2132 > Fax: (516) 349-2211 > Email: ken.baron@lmco.com (temporary) > Email: ken.baron@baesystems.com (eventually) > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: bootLoadModule again Date: 7 Mar 2001 17:14:29 +0100 From: bpatel@princetonoptical.com (Bhavesh Patel) Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: <3AA65EF8.229E08D8@princetonoptical.com> Hi, This is my requirement - I want to dynamically load a bootable application from my application code at "runtime" using bootLoadModule(). is it possible? if NOT what needs to be done to make it possible. If I recall bootLoadModule() is part of bootrom but I want to use it with my custom bootable vxworks image. your help is appreciated. bhavesh - -- Posted from 64-56-57-146.comcasttel.net [64.56.57.146] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: C++ and VxSim? Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:44:33 +0000 From: Mark Organization: BBS InterBulletin.com Message-ID: <3AA65761.1AA6E7B1@interbulletin.com> [using Tornado 2 hosted on NT] I would like to be able to run C++ code very similar to factory.cpp as distributed with Tornado. I have no problem compiling the code but have many unresolved symbols when downloading the .out file. I ran a "hello world" C++ without any problems so it must be related to the library runtime support in VxSim. How do I modify it to add the necessary support. thanks Mark _______________________________________________ Submitted via WebNewsReader of http://www.interbulletin.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: bootLoadModule again Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:23:14 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983982472.389032@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AA65EF8.229E08D8@princetonoptical.com> Hi, Keep in mind that you must no overwrite the code you are just executing. But as I read your post, this is what you intend... is this right? To replace the current running image you could change to bootline and reboot the box. If you cannot change the bootline (or do not like, because the system may then get into trouble...) you can leave a message at a well known address in memory or some other storage your board has, where the bootrom can find it. Do some CRC stuff to detect in the bootrom if the command is valid. Then you can do the stuff in bootrom. Make sure the bootrom does not overwrite that message (or some means on your hardware...) Doing it in one step will bring up a lot of trouble, I do not think its worth that... hth werner Bhavesh Patel wrote in message news:3AA65EF8.229E08D8@princetonoptical.com... > Hi, > > This is my requirement - > > I want to dynamically load a bootable application from my application > code at "runtime" using bootLoadModule(). is it possible? if NOT what > needs to be done to make it possible. If I recall bootLoadModule() is > part of bootrom but I want to use it with my custom bootable vxworks > image. > > your help is appreciated. > > bhavesh > > > -- > Posted from 64-56-57-146.comcasttel.net [64.56.57.146] > via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: C++ and VxSim? Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:38:31 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983983388.703922@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AA65761.1AA6E7B1@interbulletin.com> Hi, Mark 1) You create a custon configured VxWorks image with all the C++ settings in the Tornado tab of the project facility enabled. 2) Build that image. 3) At your option, you can now either add you code directly to that image or create a downloadable project 4) Add your code, compile it 5) Start the simulator * be sure to specify the custom built VxWorks.exe you built in step 2) as the simulator to launch * so do _not_ select "standard simulator" This should work, I tried it with string classes and manipulation and it worked. hth werner Mark wrote in message news:3AA65761.1AA6E7B1@interbulletin.com... > > [using Tornado 2 hosted on NT] > > I would like to be able to run C++ code very similar to factory.cpp as distributed > with Tornado. I have no problem compiling the code but have many unresolved symbols when > downloading the .out file. I ran a "hello world" C++ without any problems so it > must be related to the library runtime support in VxSim. How do I modify it to add > the necessary support. > > thanks > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > Submitted via WebNewsReader of http://www.interbulletin.com > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: sendto() failing with errno 13 (permission denied) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:42:59 -0600 From: "Tim Berger" Organization: Motorola CIG Message-ID: <985oei$sav1@nntp.cig.mot.com> Hello all, Does anybody know what the permission denied error (13) means when using sendto()? We're guessing that this would happen if the routing table of the board does not have a route for the IP sendto() is trying to send to. Any help appreciated, thanks in advance! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Tornado debugging Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 11:09:51 -0600 From: Ameet Amin Message-ID: <3AA66B5F.E6F0360B@yahoo.com> Folks, I have heard that it is possible to use an external gdb program (not the resident Windriver supplied gdblike debugger and have it link to the target server. Does anyone know how to do this? I actually want to use my Emacs gdb to debug stuff written for the VxWorks environment. Any help is appreciated. Thanks Ameet --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.realtime,comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: counting semaphores Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:38:44 -0500 From: Julian Requejo Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <3AA67224.5C2C27A1@eng.umd.edu> References: <3AA64C36.57B2DFE6@lucent.com> I am not sure how the example works, I don't have VxWorks. However, the idea of counting semaphores is to allow a certain number of semaphore acquires ahead of time. For example, using a 5 tape drive system that may be like the one you mentioned: Suppose the system is composed by 5 exact copies, read-only tapes (just to make it simple). You want a network to access the data. Any tape drive can be used when connecting from the outside. You can have the semaphore handling the "5-tape drive system" with an initial value 5. This means five tapes are available to be used. When someone needs to use a drive, it performs a P() on the semaphore, decreasing the number by one. When you release V() the semaphore, you increase the number by one. When the counting semaphore reaches 0, the application trying to acquire the lock with block. In this simple example, essentially the counting semaphore represents the number of free tapes. When they are none left, you must block. As soon as someone releases it again, it will be 1 and you can go. There are other issues as to who goes next if many are waiting, etc. But the idea is that. I hope this helps, - -Julian viv wrote: > > How do the counting semaphore solve the problem of mutual exclusion. the > VxWorks programming manual talks of a example of 5 tape drives being > protected by a counting semaphores. so 5 tasks can take this semaphore > but they can use the same tape drive and cause problems. I think i am > missing something here. > > Thanks, > viv --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.realtime,comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: counting semaphores Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 11:39:03 -0800 From: Joe Durusau Organization: Lockheed Martin Corporation Message-ID: <3AA68E57.B7E51960@lmco.com> References: <3AA64C36.57B2DFE6@lucent.com> Counting semaphores are not used for mutual exclusion. A MUTEX is used for that purpose. Counting sems might be used to allow a queue to be constructed for some service, among other things. Speaking only for myself, Joe Durusau viv wrote: > > How do the counting semaphore solve the problem of mutual exclusion. the > VxWorks programming manual talks of a example of 5 tape drives being > protected by a counting semaphores. so 5 tasks can take this semaphore > but they can use the same tape drive and cause problems. I think i am > missing something here. > > Thanks, > viv --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: bootLoadModule Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:03:44 GMT From: kimp@avtecinc.com (Kim Putnam) Organization: Info Avenue Internet Services Message-ID: <3aa67790.15024109@192.168.1.214> References: <3AA65695.31A49E27@princetonoptical.com> <983980285.302758@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:46:46 +0100, "Werner Schiendl" wrote: >it's declared in $(WIND_BASE)/target/h/bootLoadLib.h >and contained in the large vxWorks libraries >it does not seem to be contained in one of the .o files I have in my libs >dir... > >hth >werner > >Bhavesh Patel wrote in message >news:3AA65695.31A49E27@princetonoptical.com... >> Hi, >> >> Can someone tell me whether bootLoadModule() is in which library. >> >> bhavesh >> >> >> -- Its in the appropraite lib in target/lib.....for example libPENTIUMgnuvx.a..... K >> Posted from 64-56-57-146.comcasttel.net [64.56.57.146] >> via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: bootLoadModule again Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:06:48 GMT From: kimp@avtecinc.com (Kim Putnam) Organization: Info Avenue Internet Services Message-ID: <3aa67863.15235265@192.168.1.214> References: <3AA65EF8.229E08D8@princetonoptical.com> <983982472.389032@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> Hi, I tried something similar. and with no luck.... What I came up with is to boot a basic vxworks kernel, then ld my app, and spawn the appropriate task......This could be done via a script, or in usrAppInit K On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:23:14 +0100, "Werner Schiendl" wrote: >Hi, > >Keep in mind that you must no overwrite the code you are just executing. >But as I read your post, this is what you intend... is this right? > >To replace the current running image you could change to bootline and reboot >the box. >If you cannot change the bootline (or do not like, because the system may >then get into trouble...) you can leave a message at a well known address in >memory or some other storage your board has, where the bootrom can find it. >Do some CRC stuff to detect in the bootrom if the command is valid. Then you >can do the stuff in bootrom. Make sure the bootrom does not overwrite that >message (or some means on your hardware...) > >Doing it in one step will bring up a lot of trouble, I do not think its >worth that... > >hth >werner > > >Bhavesh Patel wrote in message >news:3AA65EF8.229E08D8@princetonoptical.com... >> Hi, >> >> This is my requirement - >> >> I want to dynamically load a bootable application from my application >> code at "runtime" using bootLoadModule(). is it possible? if NOT what >> needs to be done to make it possible. If I recall bootLoadModule() is >> part of bootrom but I want to use it with my custom bootable vxworks >> image. >> >> your help is appreciated. >> >> bhavesh >> >> >> -- >> Posted from 64-56-57-146.comcasttel.net [64.56.57.146] >> via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: sendto() failing with errno 13 (permission denied) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:11:05 -0800 From: Narayanan Meiyyappan Organization: Cisco Systems Inc. Message-ID: <3AA679B9.383103F@cisco.com> References: <985oei$sav1@nntp.cig.mot.com> Tim I am guessing it is errno 0x13 which is 19(decimal). THis corresponds to 'no such device' Again, this is only a guess - -Narayanan.M Tim Berger wrote: > Hello all, > > Does anybody know what the permission denied error (13) means when using > sendto()? We're guessing that this would happen if the routing table of the > board does not have a route for the IP sendto() is trying to send to. > > Any help appreciated, thanks in advance! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: system time and sysClkRateSet() Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:36:17 +0000 (GMT) From: David Laight Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <200103071736.RAA27628@dsl-2.tadpole.co.uk> I recall a missive not long ago where someone was reporting that the system time (as reported by time()) ran at the wrong speed if the system clock rate was changed by calling sysClkRateSet. I've been performing some experiments with fast system clocks, and found the cause. It appears that time() doesn't get the system clock rate itself (it is requested when clockLib initialises itself). If you call sysClkRateSet() you must also call clock_setres(). This is, of course, the documented vxWorks behaviour. Don't look at the code for time() - it does far too many divides for its own good:-) Also don't set sysClkRate > 2174 - it breaks select. - -> buf = malloc( 8 ); - -> buf[0] = 0 - -> buf[4] = 999999 - -> sysClkRateSet 2200 - -> tickGet; select 0,0,0,0,buf; tickGet Will sleep for (almost) ever... David - ---------------------------------------------------------------- David Laight email: dsl@tadpole.co.uk Tadpole Technology plc phone: +44 1223 428 232 Cambridge, UK fax: +44 1223 428 201 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: bootLoadModule Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:18:29 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983989387.169128@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AA65695.31A49E27@princetonoptical.com> <983980285.302758@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <3aa67790.15024109@192.168.1.214> > Its in the appropraite lib in target/lib.....for example > libPENTIUMgnuvx.a..... > this is definitely the more precise answer :-) regards werner --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: bootLoadModule again Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:21:38 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983989575.655128@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AA65EF8.229E08D8@princetonoptical.com> <983982472.389032@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <3aa67863.15235265@192.168.1.214> The problem of the original poster seemed to me like missing features in the C++ implementation on the target. And it is a bit difficult to dowload that, though possible if you hack them out from the vxWorks library, maybe (never tried that). So I suggested to add that features (well all of them, just for simplicity...) and build the new VxWorks.exe file. For ordinary use the standard simulator will do. For a real product I would prefer real hardware (or at least an eval board) anyway. regards werner Kim Putnam wrote in message news:3aa67863.15235265@192.168.1.214... > Hi, > > I tried something similar. and with no luck.... > > What I came up with is to boot a basic vxworks kernel, then ld my app, > and spawn the appropriate task......This could be done via a script, > or in usrAppInit > > K > > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:23:14 +0100, "Werner Schiendl" > wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >Keep in mind that you must no overwrite the code you are just executing. > >But as I read your post, this is what you intend... is this right? > > > >To replace the current running image you could change to bootline and reboot > >the box. > >If you cannot change the bootline (or do not like, because the system may > >then get into trouble...) you can leave a message at a well known address in > >memory or some other storage your board has, where the bootrom can find it. > >Do some CRC stuff to detect in the bootrom if the command is valid. Then you > >can do the stuff in bootrom. Make sure the bootrom does not overwrite that > >message (or some means on your hardware...) > > > >Doing it in one step will bring up a lot of trouble, I do not think its > >worth that... > > > >hth > >werner > > > > > >Bhavesh Patel wrote in message > >news:3AA65EF8.229E08D8@princetonoptical.com... > >> Hi, > >> > >> This is my requirement - > >> > >> I want to dynamically load a bootable application from my application > >> code at "runtime" using bootLoadModule(). is it possible? if NOT what > >> needs to be done to make it possible. If I recall bootLoadModule() is > >> part of bootrom but I want to use it with my custom bootable vxworks > >> image. > >> > >> your help is appreciated. > >> > >> bhavesh > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Posted from 64-56-57-146.comcasttel.net [64.56.57.146] > >> via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.realtime,comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: counting semaphores Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:12:17 +0100 From: "Mikkel Elmholdt" Organization: CyberCity Internet Message-ID: <98615b$fgp$1@news.cybercity.dk> References: <3AA64C36.57B2DFE6@lucent.com> Don't know the example, but perhaps the idea is that the handle of the acquired semaphore will indicate which tape drive you have access to? BTW, never used a counting semaphore myself. Always used binary ones. Regards Mikkel Elmholdt "viv" wrote in message news:3AA64C36.57B2DFE6@lucent.com... > How do the counting semaphore solve the problem of mutual exclusion. the > VxWorks programming manual talks of a example of 5 tape drives being > protected by a counting semaphores. so 5 tasks can take this semaphore > but they can use the same tape drive and cause problems. I think i am > missing something here. > > Thanks, > viv --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Tornado debugging Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 19:26:15 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <3AA66B5F.E6F0360B@yahoo.com> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck Ameet> Folks, I have heard that it is possible to use an external gdb Ameet> program (not the resident Windriver supplied gdblike debugger Ameet> and have it link to the target server. Does anyone know how Ameet> to do this? I actually want to use my Emacs gdb to debug Ameet> stuff written for the VxWorks environment. Any help is Ameet> appreciated. Under Emacs, we would use `GUD'. This is invoked by typing M-x and "gdb". For the gdb command, you would type something like gdbarm. This depends on your target CPU. The program is located in your "tornado host" directory under the binaries. This is "%WIND_BASE%\host\x86-win\bin" on an NT system. First you should have a target server running on your machine. Something like, "tgtsvr.exe 90.0.0.1 -n Zinc -A -V -m 4194304 -B wdbrpc -redirectIO -C -c vxWorks.ram" You can just copy this from the Tornado target server dialog. You must then issue the `target wtx name@host' command. On my system, name@host is Zinc@bill. You can see the name when you start a target server, it is in the menu title (at least on NT...). Now you can issue a "load myFile.o" command. Then a "break function" and a "run function". The code should break on the function to debug. To get this to work with emacs, you need a `.gdbinit' file that will do all of this and run the load command for you. [sample .gdbinit start] # Tell GDB where to debug. target wtx Zinc@bill # Load our image, given as command. # ie, "gdbarm file.o" load # Tell gdb how to display things. set print pretty set print asm-demangle display /i $pc select-frame 0 [sample .gdbinit end] Unfortunately, I can not get my "file.o" to pass to gdb so that it loads the proper file. I can run this from the Emacs GUD shell, but it doesn't step in the source buffer like I would like. However, this should get you started and maybe you can discover something I haven't! Either we need a better way of sending the file name from Emacs (quotes?), or the Elisp file that parses the `gdb' output must change... hth, Bill Pringlemeir... - -- No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckeroo Bonzai. Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: difference between vxWorks.bin and vxWorks.st? Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:55:14 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <9863dl$7er$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Hi, List What's the file format of vxWorks.bin? Or bootrom.bin? In my system. vxWorks.st is coff-little endian as reported by objdump. But objdump can't recognize the file format of vxWorks.bin. What are the difference between the two file formats? Where is each of them used for? Thanks for your help. Xiaoguang --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.realtime,comp.os.vxworks Subject: ISRs Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:23:41 -0500 From: viv Organization: Lucent Technologies, Columbus, Ohio Message-ID: <3AA698CD.6FE2E645@lucent.com> What are the problems of doing a msgQSend in a ISR? The manual talks about not calling vxworks calls in ISR? What does that mean? viv --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 07:33:00 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <03kt9t0cfhu9k6lc8n40if6tfob7vu43st@4ax.com> <3a9f1767.f400e@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nsvn$42o$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg25$8fl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqcm$d59$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <982f54$32t$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <9857ci$gai$5@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:58:26 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:52:24 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:39:40 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:37:09 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:40:52 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >STFGP wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Optional Identity wrote: Nothing. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:02 >> >> >> >> >> > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> > alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:06:27 >> >> >> >> >> > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> > >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> anything to succeed, by now. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >be surprised if they don't make the final 8. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> It is about time they did, but they won't win the Grand Final! >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >I doubt they would, but a lot of people would love it if they did. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >By beating an interstate team or the bombers. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> True, but all those people are wrong! >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >Why so? >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > Because if the Bombers can't win an Interstate team is the next best, >> >> >> >> >> > preferably the Swans! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> NO That is just plain wrong. And for your own safety, don't ever >> >> >> >> >> say that in a Victorian Pub. Intersate teams are just fine, as long as >> >> >> >> >> they don't win the grand final...... >> >> >> >> >> And definately not the Swans. When the were in the Grand Final, all >> >> >> >> >> of Sydney were so up themselve, not cause the gave a shit about the >> >> >> >> >> match, just cause they had a chance to beat Victoria in their own game, >> >> >> >> >> and didn't they shut the fuck up after the Swans lost. And when >> >> >> >> >> Victoria beat them at their own game and the Storm won... HAHAHA. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> That was nearly as much fun as when The Raiders did it 2 years in a >> >> >> >> row. I knew suggesting the Swans should win would upset you. YHBT. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >EABOS. >> >> >> >I was going for the raiders when they won, then I went for the broncos >> >> >> >when the started and they won, then I went for the storm and they won. >> >> >> >I have the magic touch. I don't go for the swans, so they wont win. >> >> >> > >> >> >> They won't win because they are shit, which is why you don't go for >> >> >> them. >> >> > >> >> >No, as you pointed out. I'm not from there (there a good band) and >> >> >I don't like 'em. And them being sucky is an added bonus. >> >> > >> >> They are a good band. >> > >> >So you got that one did you? I though I would have to explain it. >> > >> I am not completely stupid! > >Well not everyone would know a semi famous Brisbane band. >Do you like them? > I do like them, yeah. I liked Custard too and Regurgitator, but everyone has heard of them. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 07:33:46 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <4o6dat44d1rkgbtt62avb5halphpt49vgu@4ax.com> References: <3a9f1794.cdebf@newton.pacific.net.au> <3uau9to7kvja1nvf8aq8bt0j4ccgm9g7gb@4ax.com> <97nt0t$42o$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg4r$8fl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqe3$d59$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f46atg6dtng1u9385ra4uncvgi3mbkv97@4ax.com> <982f7l$32t$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <4imaat0qcnosnb5n2pm1vmj16qhhp3hssb@4ax.com> <9857do$gai$6@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:59:04 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:53:52 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:40:25 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:38:27 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:41:32 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:47:17 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:44 >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:52:54 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Are there? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Then there are those who don't like me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Who wouldn't lik you? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The same people who don't like you, I guess. I.e. fuckkkheads! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Argh. Yes, those pesky fuckheads. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> A lot of them reside in alt.flame >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Yeah, well then thankfully I don't see them that often. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> It is better that way! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Though a few of them seem to pay attention to us! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Fuck knows why they care, jealousy? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Stupidity? But I gotta say, I do feel loved right now. >> >> >> > >> >> >> That is important! >> >> > >> >> >Oh yeah. Everyone needs to feel the love and support of >> >> >all my usenet brethren. >> >> > >> >> And those guys are teh acest at love and support! >> > >> >Yes, I'm getting so many supportive emails, it's making me >> >all gooey inside. >> > >> I thought it was just me! > >Nah, everyone loves us. > Accept for those idiots in a.f, but they don't count. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 07:34:50 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <3a9f17c7.d0ac6@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt2o$42o$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg6d$8fl$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <10c5atku0m9q2ib1o6b61m60sqgjep1ilb@4ax.com> <97uqg0$d59$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <982df1$bik$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <4jmaatst9i1ukr6ugh97d7v5ula7i2b3d2@4ax.com> <9857he$gai$7@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:01:01 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:23:45 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:41:26 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:39:22 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:42:32 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:48:08 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:58:55 >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >not everyone is as luck as me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I suggest counseling! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle >> >> >> >> >> >> >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your >> >> >> >> >> >> >not happy. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, cures all your ills. Come one, come all. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Get your bottle here, roll up roll up! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >And it will make you more attractive, a better dancer, singer, >> >> >> >> >lover and pool player. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> No one would ever complain about being a better pool player! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I refuse to play pool now. My game, which was never great has >> >> >> >gone downhhill the last few months. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Just because you are crap is no excuse, it has never stopped me from >> >> >> playing. >> >> > >> >> >I hate getting beaten by Rob, he sucks too. When I was just bad, I >> >> >could live with that, but I get beaten when I know I should win. That >> >> >sucks too much. >> >> > >> >> Your ability doesn't match what you know should be done? >> > >> >What I have done is more like it. I'm a shadow of my shitful self! >> > >> I still play better when I am pissed, though! > >There's a scientific study which proves that after a few drinks >that you tend to play better after a few drinks. Though that >goes down exponentially to the amount of drinks you have. > I peak at around 6-8 then after 10 I am worse than when I started, but by then I think I am shit hot. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 07:35:40 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <3a9f1842.8df59@newton.pacific.net.au> <14bu9t0u3rt2c4eh0b58h1mpbkemljkpfu@4ax.com> <97nt4a$42o$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <6r60atk16a5t4k2sp6ho5aju2vibpmf5tc@4ax.com> <97tg81$8fl$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqhs$d59$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <982f9d$32t$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9857ip$gai$8@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:01:41 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:54:41 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:42:23 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:40:24 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> live >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>find. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>actually >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> session, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>hours >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>pissed >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> up >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>vodka >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>set >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> those >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> do >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>could see >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> bottle. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Same goes for Scotch! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yep, it used to be Australian scotch was 37% and Scotch >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Scotch was 40%. Easy to spot the difference, now you have >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >to do some research if you want to avoid the C&N. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Actually, for me, it is the alcohol content that matters to me! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Oh yeah, but back then the C&N was the weaker stuff. So it >> >> >> >> >> >> >was a real quandry, cheaper scotch, but less % v's less cheaper >> >> >> >> >> >> >scotch, but with higher %.... >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> The false economy thing. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >But thankfully, the government, made the one correct decision in my >> >> >> >> >> >entire life and rasied all scotch to 40%.... Ya. Now they just need >> >> >> >> >> >to do it with the rest of the spirit family to make it all even. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> It is embarrassing in teh bottle shop when you have to check teh >> >> >> >> >> alcohol content before you buy!! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Well now with scotch, you don't have to worry about that. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> The Scotch Marketing Board must have bribed the Government. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I think they lobbied them for quiet awhile to get it done, even playing >> >> >> >field kind of thing. >> >> >> > >> >> >> I am surprised the others haven't cited the precedent. And whose idea >> >> >> was it to change from 750ml bottles to 700? That extra 50mls makes all >> >> >> the difference! >> >> > >> >> >I'd almost forgot about that. Just another way to rip us off. >> >> > >> >> It sucks, I got a 1100ml bottle of Slolichnaya for $9.50 duty free >> >> when I went OS. >> > >> >Aaarrrrrggghhhh, duty free. You gonna share that? >> > >> I drank it in Brasil... > >What about when you came back? > I bought a nice single malt scotch, none of that left either. I needed it to help with the jet-lag. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 07:36:21 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <1t6dats003gdr5bh9njl88kvh8igrsili3@4ax.com> References: <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3170atk9f6el59t03pvk0r11uru4fpaule@4ax.com> <97tgai$8fl$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <24c5atktd61dv54sma1mc4rlsibbkuths0@4ax.com> <97uqiv$d59$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <982fa7$32t$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <9857jh$gai$9@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:02:09 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:55:17 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:43:00 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:41:43 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and hopefully never will. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am sorry >> >> >> >> >> >> >> for bringing it up! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it will stop >> >> >> >> >> >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed anyway. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after >> >> >> >> >drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Same goes for guns and rifles. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Ah, I'm not a gun kind of person. Any dick can shoot you when >> >> >> >they are pissed off. And not take it back later when they sover up. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Exactly, and heavy machinery. >> >> > >> >> >Or cars, people should be more responsible. >> >> > >> >> They should, or they shouldn't be allowed to drink. >> > >> >Yes. Though the punishment is mean, it is fair. >> > >> They have to learn somehow. > >And it's up to us to teach them. > It would be mean spirited of us not to share our superior point of view with them. - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.realtime,comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: ISRs Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:43:28 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983998085.437026@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AA698CD.6FE2E645@lucent.com> The problem is that synchronization does not work in an ISR. Therefore, functions that require that must not be used or the system may hang, crash, or behave strange otherwise. The tornado user manual contains a list of functions that may safely be invoked from ISR. Stick with these, and try to do most of the processing of the data in a task. (This also means, never have printf's in your ISR :-), use logMsg...) Usually you get the data from the device, acknowledge the hardware interrupt and trigger a task that does the rest. hth werner viv wrote in message news:3AA698CD.6FE2E645@lucent.com... > What are the problems of doing a msgQSend in a ISR? The manual talks > about not calling vxworks calls in ISR? What does that mean? > > viv --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.realtime,comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: counting semaphores Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:46:21 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <983998259.66370@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AA64C36.57B2DFE6@lucent.com> <98615b$fgp$1@news.cybercity.dk> This could work if you got a unique number back (the remaining number of semaphore takes or whatever) so that taking the first time delivers 4, the second time 3, and so on But as far as I know there is no such function in VxWorks counting semaphores. For the problem mentioned I would use a mutex semaphore (maybe a binary one, but if there is no reason I would take a mutex with delete-safe and inversion-safe, that will work for most problems) hth werner Mikkel Elmholdt wrote in message news:98615b$fgp$1@news.cybercity.dk... > Don't know the example, but perhaps the idea is that the handle of the > acquired semaphore will indicate which tape drive you have access to? > > BTW, never used a counting semaphore myself. Always used binary ones. > > Regards > > Mikkel Elmholdt > > "viv" wrote in message > news:3AA64C36.57B2DFE6@lucent.com... > > How do the counting semaphore solve the problem of mutual exclusion. the > > VxWorks programming manual talks of a example of 5 tape drives being > > protected by a counting semaphores. so 5 tasks can take this semaphore > > but they can use the same tape drive and cause problems. I think i am > > missing something here. > > > > Thanks, > > viv > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.realtime,comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: ISRs Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 16:15:20 -0500 From: david lindauer Message-ID: <3AA6A4E7.9FE5AA76@notifier-is.net> References: <3AA698CD.6FE2E645@lucent.com> <983998085.437026@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> Werner Schiendl wrote: > The problem is that synchronization does not work in an ISR. > Therefore, functions that require that must not be used or the system may > hang, crash, or behave strange otherwise. > > The tornado user manual contains a list of functions that may safely be > invoked from ISR. > Stick with these, and try to do most of the processing of the data in a > task. > (This also means, never have printf's in your ISR :-), use logMsg...) > > Usually you get the data from the device, acknowledge the hardware interrupt > and trigger a task that does the rest. > the reason for the problem is that if an ISR calls a function that ends up calling VxWorks to cause a pend of the current task (such as malloc or file I/O or semaphore/queue functions can do under certain conditions) the pend will take place at the interrupt level instead of in the context of a task. This can cause serious problems, anything from a lockup to a crash. So you have to worry about which VxWorks calls are 'safe' from the standpoint that you know there isn't going to be any kind of a pend (bear in mind a time delay is usually a pend as well). However, MsgQSend is ok in an ISR, as it does not try to pend the task but instead returns an error if the queue is full. But you could not call MsgQReceive in an ISR because that can cause a pend if the queue is empty. David > > hth > werner > > viv wrote in message > news:3AA698CD.6FE2E645@lucent.com... > > What are the problems of doing a msgQSend in a ISR? The manual talks > > about not calling vxworks calls in ISR? What does that mean? > > > > viv --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: re: TEst 'C' program and vxWorks linking. Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:36:32 EST From: BurRb498@aol.com Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <986buk$u1$1@overload.lbl.gov> - --part1_b7.c0f8cbe.27d803e0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well it seems part of the problem was indeed optimisation (thanks David). Both test programs now run at the same speed. However, I've now moved on to the next problem! I cannot enable data caching. Instruction caching can be enabled without any problem, however data caching does not happen (checked via hardware registers) when enabled via vxworks. My BSP (developed by a third party) warns that this may be the case in a comment. Any ideas why this may be the case (processor = powerpc 603e). Many thanks in advance. Robert Burton. - --part1_b7.c0f8cbe.27d803e0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well it seems part of the problem was indeed optimisation (thanks David).
Both test programs now run at the same speed. However, I've now moved on to
the next problem! I cannot enable data caching. Instruction caching can be
enabled without any problem, however data caching does not happen (checked
via hardware registers) when enabled via vxworks. My BSP (developed by a
third party) warns that this may be the case in a comment. Any ideas why this
may be the case (processor = powerpc 603e).

Many thanks in advance.

Robert Burton. - --part1_b7.c0f8cbe.27d803e0_boundary-- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.realtime,comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: ISRs Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:15:41 -0500 From: "John Perry" Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA, USA Message-ID: <986bj9$4ju$1@reznor.larc.nasa.gov> References: <3AA698CD.6FE2E645@lucent.com> Generally, you _MUST NOT_ allow an ISR to block. Many system calls hide an opportunity for the task scheduler to run, which risks blocking the ISR to allow another unrelated task or process to run. This will obviously cause major problems in almost any software system. I know nothing about vxworks: this is a general theoretical (and practical) problem. John Perry AS&M "viv" wrote in message news:3AA698CD.6FE2E645@lucent.com... > What are the problems of doing a msgQSend in a ISR? The manual talks > about not calling vxworks calls in ISR? What does that mean? > > viv --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: getting fcc3 to work on the sbc8260 vxworks BSP Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:51:13 -0800 (PST) From: richard garrick Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <986ff3$48r$1@overload.lbl.gov> Does anybody have experience getting an FCC (MPC8260 Fast Communication Controller)other than FCC2 to run fast Ethernet using the SBC8260 BSP (Board Support Package)? The FCC driver in the SBC8260 BSP is an END driver. We have licensed the SBC8260 board support developers' kit so I have had the privilege of reading the driver code. The code appears to be well thought out and cleanly written instead being a hack of ancient code. Studying the code indicates loading endDevTbl[](in configNet.h) with the right data and modifying sysMotFccEndLoad()(in sysMotFccEnd.c)so the 3rd and 4th calls to it handle the second entry for FCC3 in endDevTbbl[] and associating the correct FCC number and PHY number with it should work but it does not. All appears well from the driver debug output but NEITHER FCC2 or FCC3 work. The same is true if just FCC3 is loaded. When I just load FCC2, everything works fine. The driver was written to support all 3 FCCs but only works with FCC2 as sold. WindRiver and EST balked at providing support as only FCC2 is officially supported by the BSP. I hate to contract WindRiver Professional Services to to get something working that should already be operational. Any insights on getting FCC3 or FCC1 working with this driver would be greatly appreciated. Rick Garrick ===== Rick Garrick __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.arm,comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Binary files and Gnu tools. Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:51:07 +0000 From: Joe Hacker Organization: Bad Hacks R Us, Inc Message-ID: <3AA6C96B.5C83B576@online.no> References: <3AA55D49.243A0491@online.no> <1wdp6.1177$y6.197073@ruti.visi.com> <3AA56A15.9ABB46C0@online.no> <3AA4FF58.E69782C5@sepro-robotique.com> Bill Pringlemeir wrote: > I found the linker file where I have done this, > > [start] > /* Define the memory regions. */ > [ld file snipped] > } > [end] > > The symbol names are _binary_file_bin_end and _binary_file_bin_start. > In `C' you would use extern and in assembler (gas) you would us .globl. > I put the binary data in the `.text' or code section, so it is const > or romable data. It could go in the other sections. > Bill, Thanks for providing that. I will get onto this ASAP and give it a go. Best regards, - -j0e --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:58:08 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <986oj2$rm3$5@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <03kt9t0cfhu9k6lc8n40if6tfob7vu43st@4ax.com> <3a9f1767.f400e@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nsvn$42o$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg25$8fl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqcm$d59$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <982f54$32t$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <9857ci$gai$5@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:58:26 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:52:24 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:39:40 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:37:09 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:40:52 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >STFGP wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Optional Identity wrote: Nothing. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:02 > >> >> >> >> >> > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> > alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:06:27 > >> >> >> >> >> > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> anything to succeed, by now. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >be surprised if they don't make the final 8. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> It is about time they did, but they won't win the Grand Final! > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >I doubt they would, but a lot of people would love it if they did. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >By beating an interstate team or the bombers. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> True, but all those people are wrong! > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > >Why so? > >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> > Because if the Bombers can't win an Interstate team is the next best, > >> >> >> >> >> > preferably the Swans! > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> NO That is just plain wrong. And for your own safety, don't ever > >> >> >> >> >> say that in a Victorian Pub. Intersate teams are just fine, as long as > >> >> >> >> >> they don't win the grand final...... > >> >> >> >> >> And definately not the Swans. When the were in the Grand Final, all > >> >> >> >> >> of Sydney were so up themselve, not cause the gave a shit about the > >> >> >> >> >> match, just cause they had a chance to beat Victoria in their own game, > >> >> >> >> >> and didn't they shut the fuck up after the Swans lost. And when > >> >> >> >> >> Victoria beat them at their own game and the Storm won... HAHAHA. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> That was nearly as much fun as when The Raiders did it 2 years in a > >> >> >> >> row. I knew suggesting the Swans should win would upset you. YHBT. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >EABOS. > >> >> >> >I was going for the raiders when they won, then I went for the broncos > >> >> >> >when the started and they won, then I went for the storm and they won. > >> >> >> >I have the magic touch. I don't go for the swans, so they wont win. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> They won't win because they are shit, which is why you don't go for > >> >> >> them. > >> >> > > >> >> >No, as you pointed out. I'm not from there (there a good band) and > >> >> >I don't like 'em. And them being sucky is an added bonus. > >> >> > > >> >> They are a good band. > >> > > >> >So you got that one did you? I though I would have to explain it. > >> > > >> I am not completely stupid! > > > >Well not everyone would know a semi famous Brisbane band. > >Do you like them? > > > I do like them, yeah. I liked Custard too and Regurgitator, but > everyone has heard of them. Cool. You sound suitably ALTERNATIVE! How about Something For Kate? > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:00:21 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <986ond$rm3$7@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <3a9f17c7.d0ac6@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt2o$42o$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg6d$8fl$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <10c5atku0m9q2ib1o6b61m60sqgjep1ilb@4ax.com> <97uqg0$d59$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <982df1$bik$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <4jmaatst9i1ukr6ugh97d7v5ula7i2b3d2@4ax.com> <9857he$gai$7@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:01:01 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:23:45 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:41:26 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:39:22 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:42:32 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:48:08 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:58:55 > >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >not everyone is as luck as me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I suggest counseling! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle > >> >> >> >> >> >> >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your > >> >> >> >> >> >> >not happy. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, cures all your ills. Come one, come all. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Get your bottle here, roll up roll up! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >And it will make you more attractive, a better dancer, singer, > >> >> >> >> >lover and pool player. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> No one would ever complain about being a better pool player! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >I refuse to play pool now. My game, which was never great has > >> >> >> >gone downhhill the last few months. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Just because you are crap is no excuse, it has never stopped me from > >> >> >> playing. > >> >> > > >> >> >I hate getting beaten by Rob, he sucks too. When I was just bad, I > >> >> >could live with that, but I get beaten when I know I should win. That > >> >> >sucks too much. > >> >> > > >> >> Your ability doesn't match what you know should be done? > >> > > >> >What I have done is more like it. I'm a shadow of my shitful self! > >> > > >> I still play better when I am pissed, though! > > > >There's a scientific study which proves that after a few drinks > >that you tend to play better after a few drinks. Though that > >goes down exponentially to the amount of drinks you have. > > > I peak at around 6-8 then after 10 I am worse than when I started, but > by then I think I am shit hot. When playing pool it doesn't matter for me now. But with computer games and stuff I peak from 4 to 10 drinks then go slowly downhill. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:58:49 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <986ok7$rm3$6@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <3a9f1794.cdebf@newton.pacific.net.au> <3uau9to7kvja1nvf8aq8bt0j4ccgm9g7gb@4ax.com> <97nt0t$42o$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg4r$8fl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqe3$d59$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f46atg6dtng1u9385ra4uncvgi3mbkv97@4ax.com> <982f7l$32t$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <4imaat0qcnosnb5n2pm1vmj16qhhp3hssb@4ax.com> <9857do$gai$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <4o6dat44d1rkgbtt62avb5halphpt Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:59:04 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:53:52 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:40:25 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:38:27 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:41:32 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:47:17 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:44 > >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:52:54 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Are there? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Then there are those who don't like me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Who wouldn't lik you? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The same people who don't like you, I guess. I.e. fuckkkheads! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Argh. Yes, those pesky fuckheads. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> A lot of them reside in alt.flame > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Yeah, well then thankfully I don't see them that often. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> It is better that way! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Though a few of them seem to pay attention to us! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Fuck knows why they care, jealousy? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Stupidity? But I gotta say, I do feel loved right now. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> That is important! > >> >> > > >> >> >Oh yeah. Everyone needs to feel the love and support of > >> >> >all my usenet brethren. > >> >> > > >> >> And those guys are teh acest at love and support! > >> > > >> >Yes, I'm getting so many supportive emails, it's making me > >> >all gooey inside. > >> > > >> I thought it was just me! > > > >Nah, everyone loves us. > > > Accept for those idiots in a.f, but they don't count. I'm sure any attack at us is a misguided form of love. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:01:24 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <986op7$q3e$2@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3170atk9f6el59t03pvk0r11uru4fpaule@4ax.com> <97tgai$8fl$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <24c5atktd61dv54sma1mc4rlsibbkuths0@4ax.com> <97uqiv$d59$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <982fa7$32t$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <9857jh$gai$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <1t6dats003gdr5bh9njl88kvh8i Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:02:09 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:55:17 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:43:00 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:41:43 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and hopefully never will. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am sorry > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> for bringing it up! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it will stop > >> >> >> >> >> >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after > >> >> >> >> >drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Same goes for guns and rifles. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Ah, I'm not a gun kind of person. Any dick can shoot you when > >> >> >> >they are pissed off. And not take it back later when they sover up. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Exactly, and heavy machinery. > >> >> > > >> >> >Or cars, people should be more responsible. > >> >> > > >> >> They should, or they shouldn't be allowed to drink. > >> > > >> >Yes. Though the punishment is mean, it is fair. > >> > > >> They have to learn somehow. > > > >And it's up to us to teach them. > > > It would be mean spirited of us not to share our superior point of > view with them. Bloody oath. And it's fun! > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:00:54 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <986ook$rm3$8@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <3a9f1842.8df59@newton.pacific.net.au> <14bu9t0u3rt2c4eh0b58h1mpbkemljkpfu@4ax.com> <97nt4a$42o$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <6r60atk16a5t4k2sp6ho5aju2vibpmf5tc@4ax.com> <97tg81$8fl$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqhs$d59$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <982f9d$32t$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9857ip$gai$8@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:01:41 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:54:41 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:42:23 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:40:24 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> live > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>with. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>find. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>actually > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> session, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>hours > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>pissed > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> up > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> that > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>vodka > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>set > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> those > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> do > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>the > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>could see > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> bottle. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Same goes for Scotch! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yep, it used to be Australian scotch was 37% and Scotch > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Scotch was 40%. Easy to spot the difference, now you have > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >to do some research if you want to avoid the C&N. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Actually, for me, it is the alcohol content that matters to me! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Oh yeah, but back then the C&N was the weaker stuff. So it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >was a real quandry, cheaper scotch, but less % v's less cheaper > >> >> >> >> >> >> >scotch, but with higher %.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> The false economy thing. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >But thankfully, the government, made the one correct decision in my > >> >> >> >> >> >entire life and rasied all scotch to 40%.... Ya. Now they just need > >> >> >> >> >> >to do it with the rest of the spirit family to make it all even. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> It is embarrassing in teh bottle shop when you have to check teh > >> >> >> >> >> alcohol content before you buy!! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Well now with scotch, you don't have to worry about that. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> The Scotch Marketing Board must have bribed the Government. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >I think they lobbied them for quiet awhile to get it done, even playing > >> >> >> >field kind of thing. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> I am surprised the others haven't cited the precedent. And whose idea > >> >> >> was it to change from 750ml bottles to 700? That extra 50mls makes all > >> >> >> the difference! > >> >> > > >> >> >I'd almost forgot about that. Just another way to rip us off. > >> >> > > >> >> It sucks, I got a 1100ml bottle of Slolichnaya for $9.50 duty free > >> >> when I went OS. > >> > > >> >Aaarrrrrggghhhh, duty free. You gonna share that? > >> > > >> I drank it in Brasil... > > > >What about when you came back? > > > I bought a nice single malt scotch, none of that left either. I needed > it to help with the jet-lag. Rude bastard. > Optional Identity > > Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! > Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, > Hace you had your little death today? > N'est ce pas? > http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) > Skepticult Rank: Colonel > Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 > Jason Gortician is an Idiot! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.realtime,comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: ISRs Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:24:11 -0600 From: "M. Kotiaho" Organization: Lockheed Martin Corporation Message-ID: <986ce5$eo24@cui1.lmms.lmco.com> References: <3AA698CD.6FE2E645@lucent.com> <983998085.437026@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <3AA6A4E7.9FE5AA76@notifier-is.net> "david lindauer" wrote in message news:3AA6A4E7.9FE5AA76@notifier-is.net... > > the reason for the problem is that if an ISR calls a function that ends up > calling VxWorks to cause a pend of the current task (such as malloc or file I/O > or semaphore/queue functions can do under certain conditions) the pend will take > place at the interrupt level instead of in the context of a task. This can > cause serious problems, anything from a lockup to a crash. So you have to > worry about which VxWorks calls are 'safe' from the standpoint that you know > there isn't going to be any kind of a pend (bear in mind a time delay is usually > a pend as well). > > However, MsgQSend is ok in an ISR, as it does not try to pend the task but > instead returns an error if the queue is full. But you could not call > MsgQReceive in an ISR because that can cause a pend if the queue is empty. > > David > msgQSend is okay as long as the timeout parameter is set to NO_WAIT. Otherwise, msgQSend will pend if the queue is full. Markku --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:28:32 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97nsvn$42o$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg25$8fl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqcm$d59$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <982f54$32t$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <9857ci$gai$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <986oj2$rm3$5@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:58:08 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:58:26 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:52:24 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:39:40 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:37:09 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:40:52 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >STFGP wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Optional Identity wrote: Nothing. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:02 >> >> >> >> >> >> > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> > alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:06:27 >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> anything to succeed, by now. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >be surprised if they don't make the final 8. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> It is about time they did, but they won't win the Grand Final! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >I doubt they would, but a lot of people would love it if they did. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >By beating an interstate team or the bombers. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> True, but all those people are wrong! >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >Why so? >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > Because if the Bombers can't win an Interstate team is the next best, >> >> >> >> >> >> > preferably the Swans! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> NO That is just plain wrong. And for your own safety, don't ever >> >> >> >> >> >> say that in a Victorian Pub. Intersate teams are just fine, as long as >> >> >> >> >> >> they don't win the grand final...... >> >> >> >> >> >> And definately not the Swans. When the were in the Grand Final, all >> >> >> >> >> >> of Sydney were so up themselve, not cause the gave a shit about the >> >> >> >> >> >> match, just cause they had a chance to beat Victoria in their own game, >> >> >> >> >> >> and didn't they shut the fuck up after the Swans lost. And when >> >> >> >> >> >> Victoria beat them at their own game and the Storm won... HAHAHA. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> That was nearly as much fun as when The Raiders did it 2 years in a >> >> >> >> >> row. I knew suggesting the Swans should win would upset you. YHBT. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >EABOS. >> >> >> >> >I was going for the raiders when they won, then I went for the broncos >> >> >> >> >when the started and they won, then I went for the storm and they won. >> >> >> >> >I have the magic touch. I don't go for the swans, so they wont win. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> They won't win because they are shit, which is why you don't go for >> >> >> >> them. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >No, as you pointed out. I'm not from there (there a good band) and >> >> >> >I don't like 'em. And them being sucky is an added bonus. >> >> >> > >> >> >> They are a good band. >> >> > >> >> >So you got that one did you? I though I would have to explain it. >> >> > >> >> I am not completely stupid! >> > >> >Well not everyone would know a semi famous Brisbane band. >> >Do you like them? >> > >> I do like them, yeah. I liked Custard too and Regurgitator, but >> everyone has heard of them. > >Cool. You sound suitably ALTERNATIVE! How about Something >For Kate? > I totally dig them!! But I also like Everything but the Girl and Portishead! I am nothing but eclectic! I also like You am I. --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:29:06 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97nt0t$42o$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg4r$8fl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqe3$d59$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f46atg6dtng1u9385ra4uncvgi3mbkv97@4ax.com> <982f7l$32t$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <4imaat0qcnosnb5n2pm1vmj16qhhp3hssb@4ax.com> <9857do$gai$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <4o6dat44d1rkgbtt62avb5halphpt49vgu@4ax.com> <986ok7$rm3$6@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:58:49 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:59:04 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:53:52 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:40:25 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:38:27 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:41:32 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:47:17 >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:44 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:52:54 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Are there? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Then there are those who don't like me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Who wouldn't lik you? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The same people who don't like you, I guess. I.e. fuckkkheads! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Argh. Yes, those pesky fuckheads. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A lot of them reside in alt.flame >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yeah, well then thankfully I don't see them that often. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> It is better that way! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Though a few of them seem to pay attention to us! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Fuck knows why they care, jealousy? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Stupidity? But I gotta say, I do feel loved right now. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> That is important! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Oh yeah. Everyone needs to feel the love and support of >> >> >> >all my usenet brethren. >> >> >> > >> >> >> And those guys are teh acest at love and support! >> >> > >> >> >Yes, I'm getting so many supportive emails, it's making me >> >> >all gooey inside. >> >> > >> >> I thought it was just me! >> > >> >Nah, everyone loves us. >> > >> Accept for those idiots in a.f, but they don't count. > >I'm sure any attack at us is a misguided form of love. > I hace to agere wiv dis spot!!! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:29:56 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97nt2o$42o$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg6d$8fl$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <10c5atku0m9q2ib1o6b61m60sqgjep1ilb@4ax.com> <97uqg0$d59$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <982df1$bik$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <4jmaatst9i1ukr6ugh97d7v5ula7i2b3d2@4ax.com> <9857he$gai$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <986ond$rm3$7@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:00:21 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:01:01 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:23:45 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:41:26 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:39:22 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:42:32 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:48:08 >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:58:55 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >not everyone is as luck as me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I suggest counseling! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >not happy. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, cures all your ills. Come one, come all. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Get your bottle here, roll up roll up! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >And it will make you more attractive, a better dancer, singer, >> >> >> >> >> >lover and pool player. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> No one would ever complain about being a better pool player! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >I refuse to play pool now. My game, which was never great has >> >> >> >> >gone downhhill the last few months. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Just because you are crap is no excuse, it has never stopped me from >> >> >> >> playing. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I hate getting beaten by Rob, he sucks too. When I was just bad, I >> >> >> >could live with that, but I get beaten when I know I should win. That >> >> >> >sucks too much. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Your ability doesn't match what you know should be done? >> >> > >> >> >What I have done is more like it. I'm a shadow of my shitful self! >> >> > >> >> I still play better when I am pissed, though! >> > >> >There's a scientific study which proves that after a few drinks >> >that you tend to play better after a few drinks. Though that >> >goes down exponentially to the amount of drinks you have. >> > >> I peak at around 6-8 then after 10 I am worse than when I started, but >> by then I think I am shit hot. > >When playing pool it doesn't matter for me now. But with computer >games and stuff I peak from 4 to 10 drinks then go slowly downhill. > My perception of some random girl's beauty suffers the same way!!! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:30:40 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: <8lrdat8q8jq6selcsmlv6rbtcvu3sfnecd@4ax.com> References: <97nt4a$42o$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <6r60atk16a5t4k2sp6ho5aju2vibpmf5tc@4ax.com> <97tg81$8fl$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqhs$d59$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <982f9d$32t$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9857ip$gai$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <986ook$rm3$8@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:00:54 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:01:41 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:54:41 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:42:23 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:40:24 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>clever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> live >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>with. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>find. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>actually >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> session, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>hours >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>pissed >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> up >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>vodka >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>set >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> those >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> do >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>could see >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> bottle. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Same goes for Scotch! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yep, it used to be Australian scotch was 37% and Scotch >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Scotch was 40%. Easy to spot the difference, now you have >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >to do some research if you want to avoid the C&N. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Actually, for me, it is the alcohol content that matters to me! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Oh yeah, but back then the C&N was the weaker stuff. So it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >was a real quandry, cheaper scotch, but less % v's less cheaper >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >scotch, but with higher %.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The false economy thing. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >But thankfully, the government, made the one correct decision in my >> >> >> >> >> >> >entire life and rasied all scotch to 40%.... Ya. Now they just need >> >> >> >> >> >> >to do it with the rest of the spirit family to make it all even. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> It is embarrassing in teh bottle shop when you have to check teh >> >> >> >> >> >> alcohol content before you buy!! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Well now with scotch, you don't have to worry about that. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> The Scotch Marketing Board must have bribed the Government. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >I think they lobbied them for quiet awhile to get it done, even playing >> >> >> >> >field kind of thing. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I am surprised the others haven't cited the precedent. And whose idea >> >> >> >> was it to change from 750ml bottles to 700? That extra 50mls makes all >> >> >> >> the difference! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I'd almost forgot about that. Just another way to rip us off. >> >> >> > >> >> >> It sucks, I got a 1100ml bottle of Slolichnaya for $9.50 duty free >> >> >> when I went OS. >> >> > >> >> >Aaarrrrrggghhhh, duty free. You gonna share that? >> >> > >> >> I drank it in Brasil... >> > >> >What about when you came back? >> > >> I bought a nice single malt scotch, none of that left either. I needed >> it to help with the jet-lag. > >Rude bastard. > If I had of known you in '96 I would have though of you as I polished it off! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:31:10 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3170atk9f6el59t03pvk0r11uru4fpaule@4ax.com> <97tgai$8fl$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <24c5atktd61dv54sma1mc4rlsibbkuths0@4ax.com> <97uqiv$d59$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <982fa7$32t$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <9857jh$gai$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <1t6dats003gdr5bh9njl88kvh8igrsili3@4ax.com> <986op7$q3e$2@intimidator.databasix.com> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:01:24 +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:02:09 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:55:17 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:43:00 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:41:43 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and hopefully never will. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am sorry >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> for bringing it up! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it will stop >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed anyway. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after >> >> >> >> >> >drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Same goes for guns and rifles. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Ah, I'm not a gun kind of person. Any dick can shoot you when >> >> >> >> >they are pissed off. And not take it back later when they sover up. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Exactly, and heavy machinery. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Or cars, people should be more responsible. >> >> >> > >> >> >> They should, or they shouldn't be allowed to drink. >> >> > >> >> >Yes. Though the punishment is mean, it is fair. >> >> > >> >> They have to learn somehow. >> > >> >And it's up to us to teach them. >> > >> It would be mean spirited of us not to share our superior point of >> view with them. > >Bloody oath. And it's fun! > It surely fuckin' is!! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: [Help Me] task Delay less than sys clk tick Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 02:55:30 GMT From: pkockritz@home.com (Pete Kockritz) Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: References: <9833a5$eo21@cui1.lmms.lmco.com> <3AA5BF07.E3B730B7@yahoo.com> In article , "dgold1" wrote: > >> "Kim, Jeong-Hwan" wrote in message > >> news:Fq3p6.211$qP.5115@news2.bora.net... > >> > How can I delay a process less than one system clock tick ? > >> > For example, when I set system clock using sysClkRateSet(60) > >> > how can I delay less than 1/60 second ? > >> > If I use taskDelay(), I can delay only 1/60. > >> > I'm using MPC8260 > >> > > > You can read the decrementer register with vxDecGet(), and handle the case > of it wrapping, or > you could also read (since you're on a PPC) the time base registers. I > thought all the PPC BSPs came with a vxWorks function to read the time base > registers, or you can write a simple one patterned after the others in > sysAlib.s. > > hth, > Dan Gold gold@ensemblecom.com I don't think the decrementer wraps (at least not on PPC), it gets reloaded to the starting value in the system tick ISR. You could use that in conjunction with sysTick() to monitor the passing of time. vxTimeBaseGet() (in target/h/arch/ppc/vxPpcLib.h) retrieves the 64 bit timebase register. I use it for doing high resolution timing measurements. I believe it runs off of the same clk signal as the decrementer. On our system that's 4.xx MHz, so I just shift the timebase lower register right by 2 bits and get an approximation of microseconds. If you need precise short delays, you could just spin in a loop waiting for the timebase delta from the initial value to reach the desired amount of time. If you need precise long delays, you should probably investigate the sysAuxClk functions. Regards, Pete - -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Kockritz mailto:pkockritz@home.com | | This space for rent. | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: VxSim running on win98? Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 19:24:47 -0800 From: DrDiags Organization: laserlink.net Message-ID: <3AA6FB7F.A20259A@covad.net> References: <983jg6$1r38$1@thoth.cts.com> Reply-To: drdiags@covad.net Ming, I found that I could run on WinME, but I had to choose Win98 objects during the installation process. This may not be the officially supported way to use this product, but it seems to work for me. HTH Ming Tai wrote: > How about Win ME? > can I run Vxsim on WIN ME > > Thanks > > "Frank" wrote in message > news:983jg6$1r38$1@thoth.cts.com... > > Does anyone know if Tornado2 for all simulators can run on win98? The > > installation calls for winNT or Solaris. If not is there a way to compile > > (not necessarily run) for vxWorks under windows98? > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: RE: getting fcc3 to work on the sbc8260 vxworks BSP Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:45:21 -0000 From: "Gothe, Holger" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <987ik4$i74$1@overload.lbl.gov> We are using FCC2 and 3 for Ethernet devices with the END driver. It took me a while to get it running and there are some small traps but it is working now. The main trouble is that the driver (and not the BSP) isn't very generic and only prepared for one FCC. You must for example change motFccEnd.h and .c (T/RIPTR_VAL, PAD_VAL) to allow different temporary buffers in the dual port RAM and you need a 2nd sysMotFccEndLoad in sysMotFccEnd.c I've edited the following files to give you a checklist. It does also contain another "bug" in the last line: File Function/identifier Comment \newBSP\sysLib.c String: sysFccEnetAddr3 MAC addresses for FCC2 and 3 SysFccEnetEnable() enable MII interface (pins) to the FCC controller extended to FCC3 SysFccEnetDisable() disable MII interface (pins) to the FCC controller extended to FCC3 SysFccEnetAddrGet() get the hardware Ethernet address, extended to FCC3 SysEnetAddrGet() Not changed yet for 2nd MAC address SysEnetAddrSet() Not changed yet for 2nd MAC address \newBSP\target.h Define: ETHERNET_MAC_ADRS3 2nd MAC address, hard coded, must be changed for every board \newBSP\configNet.h Define: sysMotFccEndLoadx() 2nd function for FCC3 Table: endDevTbl[] Additional part for FCC3 in device table (device: motfcc1) table is used in:\target\config\comps\src\net\usrEndLib.c \newBSP\sysMotFccEnd.c MOT_FCC_FLAGS Changed to use autonegotiation tableMeaning of flags see motFccEnd.h (exclusion of certain modes, buffer on local bus etc.) Table: motFccAnOrderTbl[] Available modes must be Or'd, otherwise is later one mode fixed and no autonegotiation possible sysMotFccEndLoadx() 2nd function for FCC3 with physical MII address 00001 \target\h\drv\motFccEnd.h T/RIPTR_VAL, PAD_VAL Split for FCC2 and 3 and addresses changed \target\src\drv\end\motFccEnd.c MotFccPramInit() Split for FCC2 and 3 \target\src\drv\end\miiLib.c MiiPhyInit() MII_PHY_DEF_SET (set in motFccEnd.h)MiiPhyDefModeSet() Still a problem: A port that is disconnected during boot is initialized to a certain mode and autonegotiation is disabled in PHY Sets CTRL register in Ethernet PHY Holger Gothe --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: allocate large memory block Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:04:19 +0800 From: "Jun Wu" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <987ik4$i75$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi VxWorks experts, My application need a large memory block(more than 4M, my board has 32M memory). I'd like to know to whether it is safe to use ANSI C malloc to allocate a large memory block larger than 4M, or there are better alternative solutions? Best regards Jun Wu --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: allocate large memory block Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:38:52 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <984048212.789229@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <987ik4$i75$1@overload.lbl.gov> I do not see an obvious problem there. You should however allocate the memory only once at startup. Otherwise you could run into fragmentation problems (there is no block of the required size). hth werner Jun Wu wrote in message news:987ik4$i75$1@overload.lbl.gov... > Hi VxWorks experts, > My application need a large memory block(more than 4M, my board has 32M > memory). I'd like to know to whether it is safe to use ANSI C malloc to > allocate a large memory block larger than 4M, or there are better > alternative solutions? > > Best regards > > Jun Wu > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Help needed - WindSNMP agent v1/v2 - sending Traps in SNMPv2 format Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:49:31 +0200 From: "Yosef Kahana" Message-ID: <3aa7634c$1@news.barak.net.il> void snmpdTrapSend ( void * pSnmpEndpoint, /* snmp agent transport endpoint */ int numDestn, /* number of destinations */ void * * ppDestAddrTbl, /* array of ptrs to destinations */ void * pLocalAddr, /* local address */ int version, /* SNMP version */ char * pTrapCmnty, /* trap community string */ OIDC_T * pMyOid, /* agent object identifier */ int myOidLen, /* length of agent object identifier */ u_long * pIpAddr, /* ip address of sender */ int trapType, /* trap type */ int trapSpecific, /* trap specific code */ int numVarBinds, /* number of varbinds in packet */ FUNCPTR trapVarBindsRtn, /* routine to bind varbinds */ void * pCookie /* argument to binding routine */ ) I'm trying to send an SNMPv2 Trap. using the version = SNMP_VERSION_2: the sniffer display an error of: frame too short (after the snmp version and pdu type). While using the same code with version = SNMP_VERSION_1: the sniffer display a correct SNMP frame. The TechSupport said that I have to bind the TrapOid and SysUpTime as first and second varbinds. 1) Do I have to bind the additional two variables in the trapVarBindsRtn? 2) Do I have to add the additional two variables to the numVarBinds? in case I bind the additional variables in the trapVarBindsRtn? in case I don't have to bind the additional variables in the trap trapVarBindsRtn? Thanks Yosef Kahana --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: interrupt controller 8259 Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 11:59:33 +0100 From: Renate Meijer Organization: Organized Panic Message-ID: <3AA76615.F7A65C38@my-deja.com> References: <97vl0r$r8pb6$1@ID-78468.news.dfncis.de> Hi Wolfgang, Are you using IntVecSet? Then try IntConnect, because this routine shifts in the i8259IntEoiMaster or i8259IntEoiSlave depending on your Irq. These reset the ISR register in your PIC. try handler = intHanderCreate(someRoutine, 0xDEADBEEF) intVecSet(0x0148, handler); l intVecGet(0x0148) and compare it to intConnect(0x0148, someRoutine, 0xDEADBEEF) l intVecGet(0x0148), You'll see the second version has a call instruction just after the call to someRoutine. This is the i8259EoiMaster or i8259EoiSlave (depending on irq num), which issues EOI commands to the PIC. This routine could (conceivably) be implemented in intVecSet, but this does have the disadvantage of prohibiting a c-routine to be connected DIRECTLY to the IRQ (i.e. withouth a wrapper, which handles EOI). This could be solved by using some magic word to detect system wrapper code. It might have been mentioned in the dox though... At least on i80x86 systems, do Eoi yourself or manually manipulate the wrapper code if you insist on using IntVecSet. For your convenience I've added some code... Code to inspect the status of the 8259A-M/S pair: void tstDump8259A_rd(void) { /* !!! PLATFORM DEPENDENT i80x86 with 2x8259A ONLY */ int irr[2]; int isr[2]; int imr[2]; /* get IRR */ sysOutByte(0x20, 0x0a); irr[0] = sysInByte(0x20); sysOutByte(0xA0, 0x0a); irr[1] = sysInByte(0xA0); /* get ISR */ sysOutByte(0x20, 0x0b); isr[0] = sysInByte(0x20); sysOutByte(0xA0, 0x0b); isr[1] = sysInByte(0xA0); /* get IMR */ imr[0] = sysInByte(0x21); imr[1] = sysInByte(0xA1); logMsg(" : master\tslave\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); logMsg("IRR : 0x%02x\t\t0x%02x\n",irr[0], irr[1],0,0,0,0); logMsg("ISR : 0x%02x\t\t0x%02x\n",isr[0], isr[1],0,0,0,0); logMsg("IMR : 0x%02x\t\t0x%02x\n",imr[0], imr[1],0,0,0,0); } Results with intVecSet Before IRQ9 (PCI) master slave IRR 0x00 0x00 ISR 0x00 0x00 IMR 0x00 0x3d /* irq9 (et al.) enabled !!! */ After IRQ9 (PCI) master slave IRR 0x00 0x00 ISR 0x04 0x02 /* irq2 in service, irq9 in service, */ IMR 0x00 0x3d /* irq9 (et al.) still enabled */ Results with intConnect Before IRQ9 (PCI) master slave IRR 0x00 0x00 ISR 0x00 0x00 IMR 0x00 0x3d /* irq9 (et al.) enabled */ After IRQ9 (PCI) master slave IRR 0x00 0x00 ISR 0x00 0x00 /* No isr active */ IMR 0x00 0x3d /* irq9 (et al.) still enabled */ Kind Regards, Renate Meijer. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: difference between vxWorks.bin and vxWorks.st? Date: 08 Mar 2001 11:36:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Martin Read Organization: Linux Unlimited Message-ID: References: <9863dl$7er$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> In article <9863dl$7er$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com>, Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman) wrote: >Hi, List > >What's the file format of vxWorks.bin? Or bootrom.bin? > >In my system. vxWorks.st is coff-little endian as reported by objdump. But >objdump can't recognize the file format of vxWorks.bin. .bin files are raw binary images. So, "bootrom.bin" is a bootable image of your boot ROM - just blow it into flash at the right location and hey presto, you've got a bootable system using that boot ROM. Yrs, Martin --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:36:05 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: <2hLp6.168$_w4.75189@newsr1.u-net.net> References: <97i4ba$htj$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <0nbp9tg0ep20cd2r29k1i3jskpnh4kfp8d@4ax.com> <97jopv$fsv$14@intimidator.databasix.com> <0pgr9tgfe46oob4uibd2gu1bomiqshucoi@4ax.com> <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <8k1s9t4bke6qipkh8d2hsqjniie5do0ns1@4ax.com> <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> > wrote in message <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com>... >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:37:35 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:02:26 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:56:06 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:11:22 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:04:46 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried >> >> >> >and hopefully never will. >> >> >> > >> >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am sorry >> >> >> for bringing it up! >> >> > >> >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it will stop >> >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. >> >> > >> >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. >> > >> >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed anyway. >> > >> An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. > >And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after >drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. Was that his name or where he cut himself ? DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:33:58 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: <2hLp6.167$_w4.75319@newsr1.u-net.net> References: <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4do$htj$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <3obp9t4llods18sb05qrueng9t0qgifh96@4ax.com> <97jos1$fsv$15@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kotb$3si$10@intimidator.databasix.com> > wrote in message <982fc9$32t$7@intimidator.databasix.com>... >Dave Korn wrote: > >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> <97oa56$432$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... >> >Dave Korn wrote: >> > >> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> >> <3a9f158c.b5ab8@newton.pacific.net.au>... >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:12:42 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 >> 08:05:54 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated >> this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I >> >> drink alot then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often >> do >> >> this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly >> >> pissed, it just makes >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and >> intensive >> >> yogic training >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke >> >> yourself stupid without >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise >> is >> >> rewarding in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully >> habituated >> >> to both. I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, >> and >> >> then drink. A >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh >> >> hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick >> with >> >> the hangover or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >just >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If >> you >> >> insist, even if >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do >> without >> >> smoking, and >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >will >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I >> do >> >> want too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. >> >> :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive >> now. >> >> You >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I'll help ya with that spare one! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No problem Dave! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >You leave spare drinks lying around? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> No that was the one I got for you, that you couldn't have >> >> because you >> >> >> >> >> >> were driving. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Oh... Woo. Thanks for clearing that up. I was nearly about >> to >> >> drop all >> >> >> >> >> >communications with you. It was nice of you to give it to >> DaveK, >> >> though >> >> >> >> >> >personally I would have drank it myself if I was you. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> So would I, but he promised the next shout, and we kept >> drinking, >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> I eventually woke up in a dumpster, but hey it was a great >> night! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >It has to have been a good night if you woke up in a dumpster. >> Did >> >> you >> >> >> >> >end up with a traffic cone? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> It was a stop sign this time, the whole thing sign, pole and lump >> of >> >> >> >> concrete. I wish I could remember how that happened! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Check your house for a pick.... Or a nieghbourhood car for panel >> >> damage. >> >> >> > >> >> >> I guess it must have been Dave K's car! >> >> > >> >> >What? He won't post in our threads, but he's off getting pissed with >> you, >> >> >drink driving and shit... >> >> >> >> AAAAAAARRRGHA OHMYGODITWASAWFUL ITELLYOU AWFULAAAAARRRGH I've just >> been >> >> through the most terrifying Usenet experience ever. >> >> >> >> Something went wrong with the feed to and from my server. It was like >> >> being trapped in a cave or mine when the entrance tunnel collapses. >> There >> >> were hundreds of us, trapped in there. We were desparate to call for >> help, >> >> but nobody could get a message in or out to the outside world. Cut off >> from >> >> outside existence, nothing but the sound of our own posts echoing around >> in >> >> the dark, wondering how long it would be before rescue came. Some turned >> to >> >> cannibalism, others jumped into the bottomless pits in despair, only the >> >> mentally tough were able to survive... >> >> >> >> I'm deeply traumatised. I think I need a drink. Fortunately I'm off >> down >> >> to London this evening to go on a major pissup with a bunch of old mates >> >> from way back when, so I should have recovered my aplomb by the end of >> the >> >> weekend :) >> >> >> >> DaveK >> > >> >So that's where you been.... I was just about to claim spank on you. >> >Oh well, I'll have to try on someone else. Have fun. >> >> Heh. I did :) >> >> DaveK > >You would have to had to. But coudn't you have waited for a few more >days and let me claim spank? I could have done, but tell me the truth: would you really have been happy with such an undeserved spnak? If we were playing pool in the pub, would you say "Oh, please don't pocket your balls before I've finished sinking mine?" Would you be happy with the victory if I had let you win? What would that do for your self-esteem? You see, I've only got your best interests at heart! DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:38:19 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: <3hLp6.169$_w4.75298@newsr1.u-net.net> References: <97mcql$3jf$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f17c7.d0ac6@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt2o$42o$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg6d$8fl$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <10c5atku0m9q2ib1o6b61m60sqgjep1ilb@4ax.com> <97uqg0$d59$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <982df1$bik$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <4jmaatst9i1ukr6ugh97d7v5ula7 STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message <9857he$gai$7@intimidator.databasix.com>... >Optional Identity wrote: > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:23:45 >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:41:26 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:39:22 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:42:32 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:48:08 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:58:55 >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >not everyone is as luck as me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I suggest counseling! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle >> >> >> >> >> >> >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your >> >> >> >> >> >> >not happy. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, cures all your ills. Come one, come all. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Get your bottle here, roll up roll up! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >And it will make you more attractive, a better dancer, singer, >> >> >> >> >lover and pool player. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> No one would ever complain about being a better pool player! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I refuse to play pool now. My game, which was never great has >> >> >> >gone downhhill the last few months. >> >> >> > >> >> >> Just because you are crap is no excuse, it has never stopped me from >> >> >> playing. >> >> > >> >> >I hate getting beaten by Rob, he sucks too. When I was just bad, I >> >> >could live with that, but I get beaten when I know I should win. That >> >> >sucks too much. >> >> > >> >> Your ability doesn't match what you know should be done? >> > >> >What I have done is more like it. I'm a shadow of my shitful self! >> > >> I still play better when I am pissed, though! > >There's a scientific study which proves that after a few drinks >that you tend to play better after a few drinks. Though that >goes down exponentially to the amount of drinks you have. Cool! I hace always believe that I play best between 1.5 to 2.5 pints of lager and that it goes downhill fast after that, but now I know it is the scientifically proven truth I will never play pool without a pint inside me again! DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: difference between vxWorks.bin and vxWorks.st? Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:34:08 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <988c0b$oo1$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <9863dl$7er$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> What's the relationship between the two? .bin file was generated by using cofftobin from vxWorks.st. But it seems that the symbol table was changed --> all function addresses are different in the two versions of images. It makes sense to me. But is there a formula in the address change? I can read the symbol information from vxWorks.st, but the actual address when the program is running in the target is different from that in COFF image. Anybody familiar with cofftobin? Or is there a tool to read information from .bin file? Or any documents describing the file format of .bin or .hex file that I can use to write a tool to do this? Thanks Martin Read wrote in message news:koE*UUDQo@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk... > In article <9863dl$7er$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com>, > Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman) wrote: > >Hi, List > > > >What's the file format of vxWorks.bin? Or bootrom.bin? > > > >In my system. vxWorks.st is coff-little endian as reported by objdump. But > >objdump can't recognize the file format of vxWorks.bin. > > .bin files are raw binary images. So, "bootrom.bin" is a bootable image > of your boot ROM - just blow it into flash at the right location and > hey presto, you've got a bootable system using that boot ROM. > > Yrs, > Martin > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.realtime,comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: ISRs Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:42:36 -0600 From: "Jack" Message-ID: <3aa7b74c.0@news.kivex.com> References: <3AA698CD.6FE2E645@lucent.com> <983998085.437026@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <3AA6A4E7.9FE5AA76@notifier-is.net> <986ce5$eo24@cui1.lmms.lmco.com> > msgQSend is okay as long as the timeout parameter is set to NO_WAIT. > Otherwise, msgQSend will pend if the queue is full. I don't think this is the case. An ISR is not allowed to pend. Therefore, if you call msgQSend with a timeout value other than NO_WAIT, the call will fail. VxWorks knows what context you are calling from and will not allow the ISR to block. Jack --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: difference between vxWorks.bin and vxWorks.st? Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:46:37 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <9863dl$7er$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <988c0b$oo1$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>>>> "WX" == Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman) writes: WX> It makes sense to me. But is there a formula in the address WX> change? WX> I can read the symbol information from vxWorks.st, but the actual WX> address when the program is running in the target is different WX> from that in COFF image. The addresses should not be different. How is the image loaded to your target? Is the address always the same? I hope so. You must specify the load address in the BSP. This is done by editing the config.h and the Makefile in the BSP directory. I don't know how to do this with projects. At any rate some of the variables are, ROM_TEXT_ADRS, ROM_SIZE, RAM_LOW_ADRS, RAM_HIGH_ADRS You need to change these values (maybe others depending on whether you build a `rom', `ram', `bootrom', etc version. Maybe if you gave particulars as to what you are trying to achieve. Ie, the board (custom or off the shelf), type of processor, memory types (flash, ram, disk, etc) we could be of more help. You definitely can not load the images that you have now! vxWorks is usually statically linked, although you might be able to make a version that was not... cheers, Bill Pringlemeir - -- I think I'm NOT nice ABSOLUTELY most of the time. Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: difference between vxWorks.bin and vxWorks.st? Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:12:59 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <988e96$pa3$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <9863dl$7er$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <988c0b$oo1$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Thank you, Bill. It's a custom board, arm sa110 cpu, flash&ram. The image is running on a switch blade. When power up, the switch is responsible to write the image(compressed) to each blade and then let those blades boot up. The file written into the flash of each blade is a gzip version of .bin image. I'll check those variables soon. Bill Pringlemeir wrote in message news:uhf14dww5.fsf@yahoo.com... > >>>>> "WX" == Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman) writes: > > The addresses should not be different. How is the image loaded to > your target? Is the address always the same? I hope so. You must > specify the load address in the BSP. This is done by editing the > config.h and the Makefile in the BSP directory. I don't know how to > do this with projects. At any rate some of the variables are, > > ROM_TEXT_ADRS, > ROM_SIZE, > RAM_LOW_ADRS, > RAM_HIGH_ADRS > > You need to change these values (maybe others depending on whether you > build a `rom', `ram', `bootrom', etc version. Maybe if you gave > particulars as to what you are trying to achieve. Ie, the board > (custom or off the shelf), type of processor, memory types (flash, > ram, disk, etc) we could be of more help. > > You definitely can not load the images that you have now! vxWorks is > usually statically linked, although you might be able to make a > version that was not... > > cheers, > Bill Pringlemeir > > -- > I think I'm NOT nice ABSOLUTELY most of the time. > Useful vxWorks URLS, > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: getting fcc3 to work on the sbc8260 vxworks BSP Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 17:13:00 +0000 From: Graham Baxter Organization: Graham Baxter (Software) Limited Message-ID: <3AA7BD9C.63ED7E6D@NOSPAM.bcs.org.uk> References: <986ff3$48r$1@overload.lbl.gov> Richard, I succeeded in getting Ethernet to run on FCC1 with ATM using FCC2. Check: port pin assignments sysFccEnetEnable() TX and RX clocks (working and right way around) and connected to correct FCC Beware: Wind River driver uses DPRAM ranges: 0x3000..0x301F 0xB000..0xB01F for its FIFOs (motfccend.h) I hope this helps. Regards, Graham Baxter Freelance Software Engineer gbaxter@NOSPAMbcs.org.uk richard garrick wrote: > > Does anybody have experience getting an FCC (MPC8260 > Fast Communication Controller)other than FCC2 to run > fast Ethernet using the SBC8260 BSP (Board Support > Package)? > > The FCC driver in the SBC8260 BSP is an END driver. > We have licensed the SBC8260 board support developers' > kit so I have had the privilege of reading the driver > code. The code appears to be well thought out and > cleanly written instead being a hack of ancient code. > > Studying the code indicates loading endDevTbl[](in > configNet.h) with the right data and modifying > sysMotFccEndLoad()(in sysMotFccEnd.c)so the 3rd and > 4th calls to it handle the second entry for FCC3 in > endDevTbbl[] and associating the correct FCC number > and PHY number with it should work but it does not. > All appears well from the driver debug output but > NEITHER FCC2 or FCC3 work. The same is true if just > FCC3 is loaded. When I just load FCC2, everything > works fine. > > The driver was written to support all 3 FCCs but only > works with FCC2 as sold. WindRiver and EST balked at > providing support as only FCC2 is officially supported > by the BSP. I hate to contract WindRiver Professional > Services to to get something working that should > already be operational. > > Any insights on getting FCC3 or FCC1 working with this > driver would be greatly appreciated. > > Rick Garrick > > ===== > Rick Garrick > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Target connection lost Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:13:40 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: <2OPp6.183$_w4.77935@newsr1.u-net.net> References: <980ol4$k9b$1@overload.lbl.gov> Tan, Tat Kin wrote in message <980ol4$k9b$1@overload.lbl.gov>... >vxWorks > >Hi VxWorkers... > >I need some helps. I tried to spawn a task on a simulator as below: > >->sp(testp) >task spawned: id = 4b0c960, name = s1u2 >value = 78694752 = 0x4b0c960 >-> ti > NAME ENTRY TID PRI STATUS PC SP ERRNO >DELAY >---------- ------------ -------- --- ---------- -------- -------- ------- >----- >Target connection has been lost. >Waiting for target server to attach to target (press CTRL+Break to stop) | > > >where testp is a function to print 10000 line. >I wonder what's wrong and can anyone explain to me what happen that cause >lost of connection? Probably overflowed its stack. sp doesn't allocate you a whole load of stack by default; are you declaring any huge arrays of local (ie. stack based) variables, perchance? DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: need simple quick help concerning MAKE Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:34:35 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <988j26$qek$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <982nej$d9k$1@crusher.de.colt.net> I guess you didn't change the expression of subdir according to different OS platform. The format of dir in Unix : root/dir1/xxx.c is different from format of dir in Windows : root\dir1\xxx.c You can't use such a make file on both platforms. > xxx: > cd subdir > make xxx > or > xxx: > cd subdir; make xxx > Xiaoguang Achim Zimmer wrote in message news:982nej$d9k$1@crusher.de.colt.net... > I try to change to a subdirectory and start there an other make. > > The GNU make manual says: > xxx: > cd subdir > make xxx > or > xxx: > cd subdir; make xxx > > the second seems only to work on unix and the first version did not change > the directory on winNT host > The same makefile is called permanantly again. > > > What is the error ?? > > Thanks a lot, I am in trouble with time. > > Achim > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Writing Debug messages to COM ports Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 18:53:17 GMT From: "Jaffar Shaikh" Message-ID: Hi, I would like to write debug messages to Com Ports (Hyperterminal) could someone tell me how can I write the messages to Com 1 or Com 2 ports? Thanks J Shaikh Mitel Corp. Kanata, On, Canada --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.realtime,comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: ISRs Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:18:48 -0600 From: "M. Kotiaho" Organization: Lockheed Martin Corporation Message-ID: <988ie3$eo43@cui1.lmms.lmco.com> References: <3AA698CD.6FE2E645@lucent.com> <983998085.437026@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <3AA6A4E7.9FE5AA76@notifier-is.net> <986ce5$eo24@cui1.lmms.lmco.com> <3aa7b74c.0@news.kivex.com> "Jack" wrote in message news:3aa7b74c.0@news.kivex.com... > > > msgQSend is okay as long as the timeout parameter is set to NO_WAIT. > > Otherwise, msgQSend will pend if the queue is full. > > I don't think this is the case. An ISR is not allowed to pend. Therefore, if > you call msgQSend with a timeout value other than NO_WAIT, the call > will fail. VxWorks knows what context you are calling from and will not > allow the ISR to block. > > > Jack > You are correct. I was responding to a comment of the previous poster which said that msgQSend does not pend, but rather returns an error, when the queue is full. It seems clear to me now that he was referring to calling msgQSend from an ISR (as that is the topic of this entire thread). My intention was to point out that msgQSend *can* pend in general. Obviously, this information was not relevant to this thread. Sorry about that ... I will read more carefully next time. Markku --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: JEENI ICE Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:42:25 -0800 From: "Avinash Nidumbur" Organization: Intel Corporation Message-ID: <988nb2$por@news.or.intel.com> Hi VxWorkers, Has anyone of you guys used the JEENI ICE developed by EPI. Does this have an easy interface to use and how effective is this in using it for a BSP developement. Thx Avinash --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: JEENI ICE Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 20:08:57 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <988nb2$por@news.or.intel.com> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>>>> "AN" == Avinash Nidumbur writes: AN> Hi VxWorkers, Has anyone of you guys used the JEENI ICE developed AN> by EPI. Does this have an easy interface to use and how effective AN> is this in using it for a BSP developement. I used the JEENI to develop a BSP for the Atmel 40400 a while ago. There was no BSP for this chip at the time. I think that Atmel France was working on it or something... at any rate, I found it very helpful. I also did a StrongARM bsp around the same time and used a `ROM emulator' (no Jtag debug on SA1110). I get the features mixed up, but I estimate they both saved me one to three weeks of work. I used the GDB interface to debug the code to usrRoot() and for part of it. However, you can use the `sio' in polled mode and get quite far. I did not find the Jeeni useful after the BSP was finished. The vxWorks tools are fairly good for debugging; the debug features are the strongest point for using vxWorks IMHO. hth, Bill - -- Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" I demand IMPUNITY! "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Quick Question I2C / UBR patch on 860p Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 20:14:20 GMT From: "Jim" Organization: Magma Communications Ltd. Message-ID: Hello all, Is it true that I can only run one patch on the 860 at a time (ie UBR patch and I2C patch) ? Thanks Jim --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: allocate large memory block Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 20:45:15 GMT From: andreyk@home.com (Andray Kaganovsky) Organization: @Home Message-ID: References: <987ik4$i75$1@overload.lbl.gov> "Jun Wu" wrote in <987ik4$i75$1@overload.lbl.gov>: >Hi VxWorks experts, >My application need a large memory block(more than 4M, my board has 32M >memory). I'd like to know to whether it is safe to use ANSI C malloc to >allocate a large memory block larger than 4M, or there are better >alternative solutions? > >Best regards > >Jun Wu > > [AndrayK]. I have been doing this for more then a year, on daily basis. The size of dynamically allocated region varies from 8MB (system with 32MB of RAM) to 32MB (system with 64MB of RAM). No problems whatsoever. --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 07:55:28 +1100 From: Optional Identity Organization: Petitmorte.net Message-ID: References: <0pgr9tgfe46oob4uibd2gu1bomiqshucoi@4ax.com> <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <8k1s9t4bke6qipkh8d2hsqjniie5do0ns1@4ax.com> <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <2hLp6.168$_w4.75189@newsr1.u-net.net> Reply-To: Optional_Identity@petitmorte.net According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:36:05 - -0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of alt.usenet.kooks : >STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message ><97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com>... >>Optional Identity wrote: >> >>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:37:35 >>> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>> alt.usenet.kooks : >>> >>> >Optional Identity wrote: >>> > >>> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:02:26 >>> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>> >> >>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 >17:56:06 >>> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated >this >>> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 >17:11:22 >>> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated >this >>> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >of >>> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 >08:04:46 >>> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> >Expectorated this >>> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the >aethyr of >>> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... >Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't >often do this. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am >horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and >intensive yogic training to be able to >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then >smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the >practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully >habituated to both. I still find it >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the >night, and then drink. A couple of >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for >teh hang-over as well. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll >stick with the hangover or just >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? >OK!!! If you insist, even if you >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too >though. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can >do without smoking, and will >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and >yes I do want too. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you >aprove. :) >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to >drive now. You >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking >alone. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I >sure don't. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice >for >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone >else. >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never >just limit yourself. >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't >drink! >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. >>> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K >sent me. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried >>> >> >> >and hopefully never will. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am >sorry >>> >> >> for bringing it up! >>> >> > >>> >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it >will stop >>> >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. >>> >> > >>> >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. >>> > >>> >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed >anyway. >>> > >>> An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. >> >>And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after >>drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. > > Was that his name or where he cut himself ? > > DaveK I am wondering why he was playing with a carving knife and his dick at the same time he was drinking? - -- Optional Identity Insane Cross-Poster: MEOW! Another Fine Post from the Petitmorte Family of Fine Posters, Hace you had your little death today? N'est ce pas? http://www.petitmorte.net/castle.shtml (The Saga Continues) Skepticult Rank: Colonel Skepticult Serial Number: 321-29337-833 Jason Gortician is an Idiot! --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 08:00:32 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <988rru$fc4$5@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97nt0t$42o$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg4r$8fl$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqe3$d59$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <4f46atg6dtng1u9385ra4uncvgi3mbkv97@4ax.com> <982f7l$32t$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <4imaat0qcnosnb5n2pm1vmj16qhhp3hssb@4ax.com> <9857do$gai$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <4o6dat44d1rkgbtt62avb5halphpt49vgu@4ax.com> <986ok7$rm3$6@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:58:49 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:59:04 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:53:52 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:40:25 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:38:27 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:41:32 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:47:17 > >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:44 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:52:54 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:09 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:49 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And me, but that isn't the way it always works out. Anyone who doesn't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> like us, is a fuckhead! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Too true. And unfortunately there are alot of fuckheads around. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Are there? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Of course, not eveyone likes me, so they are fuckheads. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Then there are those who don't like me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Who wouldn't lik you? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The same people who don't like you, I guess. I.e. fuckkkheads! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Argh. Yes, those pesky fuckheads. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A lot of them reside in alt.flame > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yeah, well then thankfully I don't see them that often. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> It is better that way! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Though a few of them seem to pay attention to us! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Fuck knows why they care, jealousy? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Stupidity? But I gotta say, I do feel loved right now. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> That is important! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Oh yeah. Everyone needs to feel the love and support of > >> >> >> >all my usenet brethren. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> And those guys are teh acest at love and support! > >> >> > > >> >> >Yes, I'm getting so many supportive emails, it's making me > >> >> >all gooey inside. > >> >> > > >> >> I thought it was just me! > >> > > >> >Nah, everyone loves us. > >> > > >> Accept for those idiots in a.f, but they don't count. > > > >I'm sure any attack at us is a misguided form of love. > > > I hace to agere wiv dis spot!!! Well you can't arguee with the truth. - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 07:59:43 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <988rqp$fc4$4@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97nsvn$42o$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg25$8fl$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqcm$d59$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <982f54$32t$3@intimidator.databasix.com> <9857ci$gai$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <986oj2$rm3$5@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:58:08 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:58:26 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:52:24 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:39:40 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:37:09 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:40:52 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >STFGP wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Optional Identity wrote: Nothing. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:57:02 > >> >> >> >> >> >> > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> > alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:06:27 > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:00:01 > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Doesn't matter, I didn't watch it myself. Just followup a post of Wards > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and give him shit about the dive bombers. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Beaten by Geelong, that's just tragic! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Quite funny too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You can say that! The way I figure it they are just trying to get > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> reasonable odds for the season. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's a plausable excuse. Nah, I think their just a bit to cocky. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Prolly, they were way too good last year. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Cunts. Exept the Bulldogs showed em up. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Of all the teams to lose to! I seriously think the whole team bet on > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> the Bulldogs and made a killing! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Sounds good. But they were out played and the Bulldogs had > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >superior tatics, simple as that. They wanted it more. It was a > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >good wake up call for the bombers. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Maybe, but if the Bombers were so much better than the rest of the > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> competition, why didn't the Bulldogs beat other teams more frequently. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Tatics. They figured out how to play against the bombers. They were a > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >good side last year, not great. But they watched videos of the bombers > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >and figured out how they played and thus how to beat them. They have > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >been a never say die team the last few years and with better tatics and > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >being more into the game they managed to upset the more skillful team. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> If what you say is true they should make the finals this year. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Not necessarly, just that at that point in time a good fighting team figured > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >out how to beat a great talatened team. The bombers changed a few > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >things so that that tatic wouldn't be usefull against them again. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> Well you never know what might happen, and the Bulldogs will try > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> anything to succeed, by now. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Oh yeah, but you can never tell at this time of the year. But I would > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >be surprised if they don't make the final 8. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> It is about time they did, but they won't win the Grand Final! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >I doubt they would, but a lot of people would love it if they did. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >By beating an interstate team or the bombers. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> True, but all those people are wrong! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >Why so? > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > Because if the Bombers can't win an Interstate team is the next best, > >> >> >> >> >> >> > preferably the Swans! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> NO That is just plain wrong. And for your own safety, don't ever > >> >> >> >> >> >> say that in a Victorian Pub. Intersate teams are just fine, as long as > >> >> >> >> >> >> they don't win the grand final...... > >> >> >> >> >> >> And definately not the Swans. When the were in the Grand Final, all > >> >> >> >> >> >> of Sydney were so up themselve, not cause the gave a shit about the > >> >> >> >> >> >> match, just cause they had a chance to beat Victoria in their own game, > >> >> >> >> >> >> and didn't they shut the fuck up after the Swans lost. And when > >> >> >> >> >> >> Victoria beat them at their own game and the Storm won... HAHAHA. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> That was nearly as much fun as when The Raiders did it 2 years in a > >> >> >> >> >> row. I knew suggesting the Swans should win would upset you. YHBT. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >EABOS. > >> >> >> >> >I was going for the raiders when they won, then I went for the broncos > >> >> >> >> >when the started and they won, then I went for the storm and they won. > >> >> >> >> >I have the magic touch. I don't go for the swans, so they wont win. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> They won't win because they are shit, which is why you don't go for > >> >> >> >> them. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >No, as you pointed out. I'm not from there (there a good band) and > >> >> >> >I don't like 'em. And them being sucky is an added bonus. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> They are a good band. > >> >> > > >> >> >So you got that one did you? I though I would have to explain it. > >> >> > > >> >> I am not completely stupid! > >> > > >> >Well not everyone would know a semi famous Brisbane band. > >> >Do you like them? > >> > > >> I do like them, yeah. I liked Custard too and Regurgitator, but > >> everyone has heard of them. > > > >Cool. You sound suitably ALTERNATIVE! How about Something > >For Kate? > > > I totally dig them!! But I also like Everything but the Girl and > Portishead! > > I am nothing but eclectic! > > I also like You am I. Go Tim! I think we really need that room now! - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 08:01:50 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <988rup$fc4$6@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97nt2o$42o$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg6d$8fl$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <10c5atku0m9q2ib1o6b61m60sqgjep1ilb@4ax.com> <97uqg0$d59$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <982df1$bik$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <4jmaatst9i1ukr6ugh97d7v5ula7i2b3d2@4ax.com> <9857he$gai$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <986ond$rm3$7@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:00:21 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:01:01 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:23:45 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:41:26 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:39:22 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 21:42:32 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:48:08 > >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:58:55 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:53:36 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:07:44 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice in comparison. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just like you! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the knowledge that > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >not everyone is as luck as me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I suggest counseling! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a bottle > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if your > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >not happy. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, cures all your ills. Come one, come all. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Get your bottle here, roll up roll up! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >And it will make you more attractive, a better dancer, singer, > >> >> >> >> >> >lover and pool player. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> No one would ever complain about being a better pool player! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >I refuse to play pool now. My game, which was never great has > >> >> >> >> >gone downhhill the last few months. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Just because you are crap is no excuse, it has never stopped me from > >> >> >> >> playing. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >I hate getting beaten by Rob, he sucks too. When I was just bad, I > >> >> >> >could live with that, but I get beaten when I know I should win. That > >> >> >> >sucks too much. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Your ability doesn't match what you know should be done? > >> >> > > >> >> >What I have done is more like it. I'm a shadow of my shitful self! > >> >> > > >> >> I still play better when I am pissed, though! > >> > > >> >There's a scientific study which proves that after a few drinks > >> >that you tend to play better after a few drinks. Though that > >> >goes down exponentially to the amount of drinks you have. > >> > > >> I peak at around 6-8 then after 10 I am worse than when I started, but > >> by then I think I am shit hot. > > > >When playing pool it doesn't matter for me now. But with computer > >games and stuff I peak from 4 to 10 drinks then go slowly downhill. > > > My perception of some random girl's beauty suffers the same way!!! The dangerous beer goggles. Or Scotch Specs if you will. - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 08:02:48 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <988s0i$fc4$7@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97mcql$3jf$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f17c7.d0ac6@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt2o$42o$7@intimidator.databasix.com> <97tg6d$8fl$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <10c5atku0m9q2ib1o6b61m60sqgjep1ilb@4ax.com> <97uqg0$d59$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <982df1$bik$1@intimidator.databasix.com> <4jmaatst9i1ukr6ugh97d7v5ula7 Dave Korn wrote: > STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > <9857he$gai$7@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:23:45 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:41:26 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 > 00:39:22 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated > this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 > 21:42:32 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated > this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 > 14:48:08 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the > aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar > 2001 07:58:55 > >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the > aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 > Mar 2001 17:53:36 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into > the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 > Mar 2001 17:07:44 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement > into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, > 01 Mar 2001 08:01:19 > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ > pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement > into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When I am pissed you mean? I > like to drink single malt scotch, but I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> can't so I have to drink drano, > to make the cheap stuff taste good in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> comparison! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Drano? What's the alcohol > content on that? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it has any, it an > epicurean dodge. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, then why drink it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To make the cheap scotch taste nice > in comparison. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Ok. I would just rather drink C&N > scotch and have it taste like > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N scotch though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That does make sense. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's all up to the individual I suppose > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That is correct, everyone is different. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But everyone should be like me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Like themselves, like you are? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, like me, like I am. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I think you would get bored if everyone was just > like you! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Maybe, but I'm willing to risk it. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Fortunately you won't be able to. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dam, oh well, I'll just have to live with the > knowledge that > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >not everyone is as luck as me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I suggest counseling! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >No, that is not the answer. Dr Scott will prescribe a > bottle > >> >> >> >> >> >> >of scotch a week and increase by a bottle each week if > your > >> >> >> >> >> >> >not happy. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Scott's pale brown wonder tonic? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, cures all your ills. Come one, come all. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Get your bottle here, roll up roll up! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >And it will make you more attractive, a better dancer, singer, > >> >> >> >> >lover and pool player. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> No one would ever complain about being a better pool player! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >I refuse to play pool now. My game, which was never great has > >> >> >> >gone downhhill the last few months. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Just because you are crap is no excuse, it has never stopped me > from > >> >> >> playing. > >> >> > > >> >> >I hate getting beaten by Rob, he sucks too. When I was just bad, I > >> >> >could live with that, but I get beaten when I know I should win. > That > >> >> >sucks too much. > >> >> > > >> >> Your ability doesn't match what you know should be done? > >> > > >> >What I have done is more like it. I'm a shadow of my shitful self! > >> > > >> I still play better when I am pissed, though! > > > >There's a scientific study which proves that after a few drinks > >that you tend to play better after a few drinks. Though that > >goes down exponentially to the amount of drinks you have. > > Cool! I hace always believe that I play best between 1.5 to 2.5 pints of > lager and that it goes downhill fast after that, but now I know it is the > scientifically proven truth I will never play pool without a pint inside me > again! > > DaveK Play safe DaveK. Never play sober. - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 08:03:36 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <988s2m$fc4$8@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97nt4a$42o$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <6r60atk16a5t4k2sp6ho5aju2vibpmf5tc@4ax.com> <97tg81$8fl$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <97uqhs$d59$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <982f9d$32t$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <9857ip$gai$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <986ook$rm3$8@intimidator.databasix.com> <8lrdat8q8jq6selcsmlv6rbtc Optional Identity wrote: > According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:00:54 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:01:41 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:54:41 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:42:23 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:40:24 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( Sobriety. It aint big and it aint > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>clever. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >:( DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That's nice to know > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not cool either! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Only for a short time, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Well at least as long as you need to drive > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah that too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It's an unfortunate part of life that we have to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> live > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>with. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Kinda of like work, taxes and death. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> And sleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >Sleep aint to bad when you get enough that is. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> Sleep is ok, it's just hard to drink when your asleep, I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>find. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >Well the trick to that is just to drink so much that you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>actually > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >pisster while you sleep. Generally in a big pissup > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> session, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >actually peack at your pisstest until an hour or 2 after > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >stop. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >So you hit it really hard, and you should peak until a few > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>hours > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> after, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >but you go to bed straight after stopping and you will get > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>pissed > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> while > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >you sleep. EASY. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >> Yeah I do this too, but after sleeping for a while I sober > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> up > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >You have to be difficult don't you? Ok, set your alarm so > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> that > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >every > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >2 hours you get up and throw back 2 or 3 quick drinks to keep > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> >pissed. See there's are way around everything. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> I find that an IV drip by my bed with a couple of bags of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>vodka > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> generally > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> keeps me pissed through the night... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Oh, I'm always on the lookout for new ways to get smeshed. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >Do you have to have a large knowledge of medicine to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>set > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> >this up? And how do I get my hands on the equipment? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> Well it's probably quite important to get the drip rate right, > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >don't > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> want *too* much blood in your alcohol system! I think one of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> those > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >machines > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> they give people for self-administering doses of morphine should > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> do > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>the > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >job > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> nicely, you could just tape the button down before you fell > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>>Or if you could just get your hands on morphine........ > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Don't start with the morphine!!! I just love opiates.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>Sorry, I think I must have nodded off for a while, what were we > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >>talking about? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > I thought I noticed your eyes roll back in your head until all I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>could see > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >were the whites... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Now I feel very bad, very bad indeed. I think I am dying.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Nah, just have another drink, you'll feel better. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Actually that does work... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mmmmmm yeah. Friday night tonight, in honour of this thread I shall stay > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>off the beer and drink a wide variety of spirits instead this evening. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Good for you Dave! Now, don't forget to poast about your hang over! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ha! I laugh in the face of hangovers and blow my nose in the general > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> direction of kidney damage! Vodka isn't too bad for hangovers anyway, it's > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> nice clean alcohol. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, I will agree with you in the morning. I've got off the uzzo and am now on > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the vodka. Yum, yum. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That Ouzo may come back to haunt you, though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Nah, 14 hours later and I feel fine. A little tired, but fine. Been to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the gym with no ill affects. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A the top quality spirits, can't go passed 'em. What Vodka was it? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >C&N. No fine spirits here at present. I've just go an iron gut. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Oh and years of training with C&N products. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I like Stolichnaya because it is a fine vodka and due to the fucked > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> state of the Russian Ruble is usually to be had for around $30 a > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> bottle. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes, that is the first vodka I threw up on, so I have fond > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >memories of it. Oh and yes it's nice, I also like some of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >the finish vodkas, they make it good too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >But the best way to know of the quality of vodka is if it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >has 'bottled in Australia' on the label. That means, C&N! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Same goes for Scotch! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yep, it used to be Australian scotch was 37% and Scotch > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Scotch was 40%. Easy to spot the difference, now you have > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >to do some research if you want to avoid the C&N. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Actually, for me, it is the alcohol content that matters to me! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Oh yeah, but back then the C&N was the weaker stuff. So it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >was a real quandry, cheaper scotch, but less % v's less cheaper > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >scotch, but with higher %.... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The false economy thing. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >But thankfully, the government, made the one correct decision in my > >> >> >> >> >> >> >entire life and rasied all scotch to 40%.... Ya. Now they just need > >> >> >> >> >> >> >to do it with the rest of the spirit family to make it all even. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> It is embarrassing in teh bottle shop when you have to check teh > >> >> >> >> >> >> alcohol content before you buy!! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Well now with scotch, you don't have to worry about that. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> The Scotch Marketing Board must have bribed the Government. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >I think they lobbied them for quiet awhile to get it done, even playing > >> >> >> >> >field kind of thing. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> I am surprised the others haven't cited the precedent. And whose idea > >> >> >> >> was it to change from 750ml bottles to 700? That extra 50mls makes all > >> >> >> >> the difference! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >I'd almost forgot about that. Just another way to rip us off. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> It sucks, I got a 1100ml bottle of Slolichnaya for $9.50 duty free > >> >> >> when I went OS. > >> >> > > >> >> >Aaarrrrrggghhhh, duty free. You gonna share that? > >> >> > > >> >> I drank it in Brasil... > >> > > >> >What about when you came back? > >> > > >> I bought a nice single malt scotch, none of that left either. I needed > >> it to help with the jet-lag. > > > >Rude bastard. > > > If I had of known you in '96 I would have though of you as I polished > it off! LOL... Ok, I can live with that. - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 08:05:02 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <988s4m$fc4$9@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <3170atk9f6el59t03pvk0r11uru4fpaule@4ax.com> <97tgai$8fl$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <24c5atktd61dv54sma1mc4rlsibbkuths0@4ax.com> <97uqiv$d59$12@intimidator.databasix.com> <982fa7$32t$6@intimidator.databasix.com> <9857jh$gai$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <1t6dats003gdr5bh9njl88kvh8igrsili3@4ax.com> <986op7$q3e$2@intimidator.databasix.com> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:01:24 > +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > alt.usenet.kooks : > > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:02:09 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:55:17 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:43:00 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:41:43 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't often do this. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick with the hangover or just > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do without smoking, and will > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes I do want too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you aprove. :) > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive now. You > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I sure don't. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice for > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone else. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never just limit yourself. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't drink! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K sent me. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and hopefully never will. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am sorry > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> for bringing it up! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it will stop > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed anyway. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after > >> >> >> >> >> >drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Same goes for guns and rifles. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Ah, I'm not a gun kind of person. Any dick can shoot you when > >> >> >> >> >they are pissed off. And not take it back later when they sover up. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Exactly, and heavy machinery. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Or cars, people should be more responsible. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> They should, or they shouldn't be allowed to drink. > >> >> > > >> >> >Yes. Though the punishment is mean, it is fair. > >> >> > > >> >> They have to learn somehow. > >> > > >> >And it's up to us to teach them. > >> > > >> It would be mean spirited of us not to share our superior point of > >> view with them. > > > >Bloody oath. And it's fun! > > > It surely fuckin' is!! But above the fun part, I also look at it as a form of community service. I'm doing my part for the community. Are YOU? - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 08:08:07 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <988sa4$fc4$11@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97i4ba$htj$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <0nbp9tg0ep20cd2r29k1i3jskpnh4kfp8d@4ax.com> <97jopv$fsv$14@intimidator.databasix.com> <0pgr9tgfe46oob4uibd2gu1bomiqshucoi@4ax.com> <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <8k1s9t4bke6qipkh8d2hsqjniie5do0ns1@4ax.com> <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >Optional Identity wrote: > > > >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:37:35 > >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:02:26 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 > 17:56:06 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated > this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 > 17:11:22 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated > this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 > 08:04:46 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the > aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... > Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't > often do this. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am > horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and > intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then > smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the > practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully > habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the > night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for > teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll > stick with the hangover or just > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? > OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too > though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can > do without smoking, and will > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and > yes I do want too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you > aprove. :) > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to > drive now. You > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking > alone. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I > sure don't. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice > for > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone > else. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never > just limit yourself. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't > drink! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K > sent me. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried > >> >> >> >and hopefully never will. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am > sorry > >> >> >> for bringing it up! > >> >> > > >> >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it > will stop > >> >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. > >> >> > > >> >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. > >> > > >> >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed > anyway. > >> > > >> An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. > > > >And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after > >drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. > > Was that his name or where he cut himself ? > > DaveK Mick. Thumb. - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 08:07:01 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <988s8b$fc4$10@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4do$htj$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <3obp9t4llods18sb05qrueng9t0qgifh96@4ax.com> <97jos1$fsv$15@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kotb$3si$10@intimidator.databasix.com> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > <982fc9$32t$7@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >Dave Korn wrote: > > > >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >> <97oa56$432$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >> >Dave Korn wrote: > >> > > >> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >> >> <3a9f158c.b5ab8@newton.pacific.net.au>... > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 > 17:12:42 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated > this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 > >> 08:05:54 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated > >> this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though > if I > >> >> drink alot then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't > often > >> do > >> >> this. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly > >> >> pissed, it just makes > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and > >> intensive > >> >> yogic training > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke > >> >> yourself stupid without > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the > practise > >> is > >> >> rewarding in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully > >> habituated > >> >> to both. I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, > >> and > >> >> then drink. A > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh > >> >> hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick > >> with > >> >> the hangover or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >just > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! > If > >> you > >> >> insist, even if > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do > >> without > >> >> smoking, and > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >will > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes > I > >> do > >> >> want too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you > aprove. > >> >> :) > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive > >> now. > >> >> You > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I'll help ya with that spare one! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No problem Dave! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >You leave spare drinks lying around? > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> No that was the one I got for you, that you couldn't have > >> >> because you > >> >> >> >> >> >> were driving. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Oh... Woo. Thanks for clearing that up. I was nearly > about > >> to > >> >> drop all > >> >> >> >> >> >communications with you. It was nice of you to give it to > >> DaveK, > >> >> though > >> >> >> >> >> >personally I would have drank it myself if I was you. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> So would I, but he promised the next shout, and we kept > >> drinking, > >> >> and > >> >> >> >> >> I eventually woke up in a dumpster, but hey it was a great > >> night! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >It has to have been a good night if you woke up in a dumpster. > >> Did > >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >end up with a traffic cone? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> It was a stop sign this time, the whole thing sign, pole and > lump > >> of > >> >> >> >> concrete. I wish I could remember how that happened! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Check your house for a pick.... Or a nieghbourhood car for panel > >> >> damage. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> I guess it must have been Dave K's car! > >> >> > > >> >> >What? He won't post in our threads, but he's off getting pissed with > >> you, > >> >> >drink driving and shit... > >> >> > >> >> AAAAAAARRRGHA OHMYGODITWASAWFUL ITELLYOU AWFULAAAAARRRGH I've just > >> been > >> >> through the most terrifying Usenet experience ever. > >> >> > >> >> Something went wrong with the feed to and from my server. It was > like > >> >> being trapped in a cave or mine when the entrance tunnel collapses. > >> There > >> >> were hundreds of us, trapped in there. We were desparate to call for > >> help, > >> >> but nobody could get a message in or out to the outside world. Cut > off > >> from > >> >> outside existence, nothing but the sound of our own posts echoing > around > >> in > >> >> the dark, wondering how long it would be before rescue came. Some > turned > >> to > >> >> cannibalism, others jumped into the bottomless pits in despair, only > the > >> >> mentally tough were able to survive... > >> >> > >> >> I'm deeply traumatised. I think I need a drink. Fortunately I'm > off > >> down > >> >> to London this evening to go on a major pissup with a bunch of old > mates > >> >> from way back when, so I should have recovered my aplomb by the end of > >> the > >> >> weekend :) > >> >> > >> >> DaveK > >> > > >> >So that's where you been.... I was just about to claim spank on you. > >> >Oh well, I'll have to try on someone else. Have fun. > >> > >> Heh. I did :) > >> > >> DaveK > > > >You would have to had to. But coudn't you have waited for a few more > >days and let me claim spank? > > I could have done, but tell me the truth: would you really have been happy > with such an undeserved spnak? If we were playing pool in the pub, would > you say "Oh, please don't pocket your balls before I've finished sinking > mine?" Would you be happy with the victory if I had let you win? What > would that do for your self-esteem? You see, I've only got your best > interests at heart! > > DaveK Yes. Yes and Fucking Yes. I take any and all victories I can lay my hands on. But I can understand your reltuctance in giving away free spanks, and making people work for it. - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: RPC UDP Sockets Problem Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 15:45:42 -0600 From: Edsel Harrell Organization: Raytheon Company Message-ID: <3AA7FD86.1237E157@raytheon.com> References: <3A7A8115.72EE874B@NOSPAM.bcs.org.uk> Graham Baxter wrote: > VxWorkers, > > We have a problem after connecting greater than 19 RPC connections. > When connecting our 20th connection we receive RPC 4 errors meaning we > can't receive. > > We are running RPC over UDP and I believe that reason that this error is > occurring is that the UDP is running out of some resources (ports, > buffers etc) . > > The number of UDP ports being used at this point is 43. > Does anyone know if UDP has maximum port threshold which we can > configure? > Or can anyone advise on any other solutions to this problem? > > Thanks for any help. > > Graham Baxter > gbaxter@NOSPAMdsl.ftel.co.uk > +44 (0)1223 495200 There are some BSP #defines in configAll.h that relate to max sockets, max files (file descriptors), etc . Seems I had a similar problem and it related to the max number of files descriptors that could be assigned (1st limit, and then max socket parameters next...) "iosFdShow" lists VxWorks fd's and what they are assigned to... - -- Edsel A. Harrell, Jr (voice) (972) 575-6468 (email) eah@raytheon.com Sr Principal Systems Eng/honors (pager) (972) 558-4204 (numeric numbers only) Raytheon Systems Company (snail) 6600 Chase Oaks Blvd, MS 8454, Plano, Tx 75023 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Proofread Carefully to See if You Any Words Out" DISCLAIMER: I speak only for myself, not my employer. EXCEPTION: If any of my ideas are worth more than $0.02, then they are property of my employer. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: difference between vxWorks.bin and vxWorks.st? Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:59:01 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <988v1i$b4$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <9863dl$7er$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <988c0b$oo1$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Actually I'm not developing a new system. I'm debugging an existing one. The system has been running for years, and it just had some problems with the latest build. Since I got some stack traces of those problems and the problems are hard to reproduce, I hope I can harness the stack trace as much as possible. But the problem here is we just included global symbol information into the build. So the function names reported in the stack trace are not reliable. Fortunately, we still get the function addresses shown in the stack trace. That's why I need a tool to find relocation information from executable files. I found the man page of coffToBin: it just abstracts .text and .data sections out of a coff image. I agree with you, it seems that at least function addresses, which is in the .text section, shouldn't be changed. But why there are different? The function address difference between vxWorks.st and the real stack trace is random. It seems that coffToBin or someone else reshuffled the relocation information. Thanks for your patience and effort to answer my question. Bill Pringlemeir wrote in message news:uhf14dww5.fsf@yahoo.com... > >>>>> "WX" == Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman) writes: > > WX> It makes sense to me. But is there a formula in the address > WX> change? > > WX> I can read the symbol information from vxWorks.st, but the actual > WX> address when the program is running in the target is different > WX> from that in COFF image. > > The addresses should not be different. How is the image loaded to > your target? Is the address always the same? I hope so. You must > specify the load address in the BSP. This is done by editing the > config.h and the Makefile in the BSP directory. I don't know how to > do this with projects. At any rate some of the variables are, > > ROM_TEXT_ADRS, > ROM_SIZE, > RAM_LOW_ADRS, > RAM_HIGH_ADRS > > You need to change these values (maybe others depending on whether you > build a `rom', `ram', `bootrom', etc version. Maybe if you gave > particulars as to what you are trying to achieve. Ie, the board > (custom or off the shelf), type of processor, memory types (flash, > ram, disk, etc) we could be of more help. > > You definitely can not load the images that you have now! vxWorks is > usually statically linked, although you might be able to make a > version that was not... > > cheers, > Bill Pringlemeir > > -- > I think I'm NOT nice ABSOLUTELY most of the time. > Useful vxWorks URLS, > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Tornado debugging Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:45:26 +0100 From: "Martin Raabe" Organization: T-Online Message-ID: <98909k$pj3$00$1@news.t-online.com> References: <3AA66B5F.E6F0360B@yahoo.com> Hello Bill et al make sure you use SPR28340 or T2CP4, where the gdb executable have the Emacs interface activated. Speaking for my own, not for my employer! TIA - -- Martin Raabe Bill Pringlemeir schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: ulmqh74w3.fsf@yahoo.com... > > Ameet> Folks, I have heard that it is possible to use an external gdb > Ameet> program (not the resident Windriver supplied gdblike debugger > Ameet> and have it link to the target server. Does anyone know how > Ameet> to do this? I actually want to use my Emacs gdb to debug > Ameet> stuff written for the VxWorks environment. Any help is > Ameet> appreciated. > > Under Emacs, we would use `GUD'. This is invoked by typing M-x and > "gdb". For the gdb command, you would type something like > gdbarm. This depends on your target CPU. The program is located in > your "tornado host" directory under the binaries. This is > "%WIND_BASE%\host\x86-win\bin" on an NT system. > > First you should have a target server running on your machine. Something > like, > > "tgtsvr.exe 90.0.0.1 -n Zinc -A -V -m 4194304 -B wdbrpc -redirectIO -C -c vxWorks.ram" > > You can just copy this from the Tornado target server dialog. > > You must then issue the `target wtx name@host' command. On my system, > name@host is Zinc@bill. You can see the name when you start a target > server, it is in the menu title (at least on NT...). > > Now you can issue a "load myFile.o" command. Then a "break function" > and a "run function". The code should break on the function to debug. To > get this to work with emacs, you need a `.gdbinit' file that will do all of > this and run the load command for you. > > [sample .gdbinit start] > # Tell GDB where to debug. > target wtx Zinc@bill > > # Load our image, given as command. > # ie, "gdbarm file.o" > load > > # Tell gdb how to display things. > set print pretty > set print asm-demangle > display /i $pc > select-frame 0 > > [sample .gdbinit end] > > Unfortunately, I can not get my "file.o" to pass to gdb so that it > loads the proper file. I can run this from the Emacs GUD shell, but > it doesn't step in the source buffer like I would like. However, this > should get you started and maybe you can discover something I haven't! > > Either we need a better way of sending the file name from Emacs > (quotes?), or the Elisp file that parses the `gdb' output must > change... > > hth, > Bill Pringlemeir... > > -- > No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckeroo Bonzai. > Useful vxWorks URLS, > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Combining downloadable and bootable projects Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:29:49 +0100 From: "Martin Raabe" Organization: T-Online Message-ID: <989164$ec4$01$1@news.t-online.com> References: <985fqk$ftc$1@overload.lbl.gov> <983981196.781316@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> Or you go for SNiFF+ as an Software Development environment to link more than one downloadable. Check it out on www.windriver.com/sniff Martin Raabe --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Tornado debugging Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 22:45:12 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <3AA66B5F.E6F0360B@yahoo.com> <98909k$pj3$00$1@news.t-online.com> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck Hmmm, I am using WinNT. It appears that these patches are for `CrossWind'. I have been invoking the gdbarm supplied with my Tornado 2.0/vxWorks 5.4. Can anyone verify that the patches will work with WinNT? I see that relevant SPRs are 27399, and 28340. tia, Bill Pringlemeir. >>>>> "MR" == Martin Raabe writes: MR> Hello Bill et al make sure you use SPR28340 or T2CP4, where the MR> gdb executable have the Emacs interface activated. [snip] >> Unfortunately, I can not get my "file.o" to pass to gdb so that it >> loads the proper file. I can run this from the Emacs GUD shell, >> but it doesn't step in the source buffer like I would like. >> However, this should get you started and maybe you can discover >> something I haven't! >> >> Either we need a better way of sending the file name from Emacs >> (quotes?), or the Elisp file that parses the `gdb' output must >> change... - -- Pets are not Chinese restaurants. Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Tornado debugging Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:56:30 +0100 From: "Martin Raabe" Organization: T-Online Message-ID: <9892nv$du5$07$1@news.t-online.com> References: <3AA66B5F.E6F0360B@yahoo.com> <98909k$pj3$00$1@news.t-online.com> Hello Bill, the SPR 28340 started from the gdbarm and we made the SPR cover all gdb's including gdbsimnt, gdbppc, etc. This is for WinNT and Unix. I needed this to talk to gdb through the SNiFF+ gdb adaptor, to be able to debug from within the editor window of SNiFF+. Try it out. For further info take a look at WindSurf (SNiFF+ 3.2.1 http://www.windriver.com/csdocs/product/embeddedDevTools/sniffPlus/index.htm l Also DDD on Solaris works fine! Ciao - -- Martin Raabe Project Manager Integration of SNiFF+ in Tornado II and pRISM+ Wind River GmbH Carl-Zeiss-Strasse 41 55129 Mainz T: (+49) 6131 / 35840-26 F: (+49) 6131 / 35840-99 M: (+49) 170 / 1838405 E: mailto:Martin.Raabe@WindRiver.com W: http://www.WindRiver.de W: http://www.WindRiver.com W: http://www.takefive.co.at/faq Bill Pringlemeir schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: u4rx3zxdl.fsf@yahoo.com... > > Hmmm, I am using WinNT. It appears that these patches are for `CrossWind'. > I have been invoking the gdbarm supplied with my Tornado 2.0/vxWorks 5.4. > Can anyone verify that the patches will work with WinNT? I see that > relevant SPRs are 27399, and 28340. > > tia, > Bill Pringlemeir. > > >>>>> "MR" == Martin Raabe writes: > > MR> Hello Bill et al make sure you use SPR28340 or T2CP4, where the > MR> gdb executable have the Emacs interface activated. > > [snip] > >> Unfortunately, I can not get my "file.o" to pass to gdb so that it > >> loads the proper file. I can run this from the Emacs GUD shell, > >> but it doesn't step in the source buffer like I would like. > >> However, this should get you started and maybe you can discover > >> something I haven't! > >> > >> Either we need a better way of sending the file name from Emacs > >> (quotes?), or the Elisp file that parses the `gdb' output must > >> change... > > -- > Pets are not Chinese restaurants. > Useful vxWorks URLS, > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: difference between vxWorks.bin and vxWorks.st? Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 22:58:51 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <9863dl$7er$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <988c0b$oo1$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <988v1i$b4$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>>>> "WX" == Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman) writes: [snip] WX> Since I got some stack traces of those problems and the problems WX> are hard to reproduce, I hope I can harness the stack trace as WX> much as possible. But the problem here is we just included global WX> symbol information into the build. So the function names WX> reported in the stack trace are not reliable. Fortunately, we WX> still get the function addresses shown in the stack trace. WX> That's why I need a tool to find relocation information from WX> executable files. How are you getting stack traces? With an in-house tool, or with the `tt' command from vxWorks shell (or Tornado). The addresses of a stack trace won't always match functions _EXACTLY_. The stack trace stores addresses in and around the middle of functions. It is the return address that is stored on a stack. WX> I found the man page of coffToBin: it just abstracts .text and WX> .data sections out of a coff image. I agree with you, it seems WX> that at least function addresses, which is in the .text section, WX> shouldn't be changed. But why there are different? WX> The function address difference between vxWorks.st and the real WX> stack trace is random. It seems that coffToBin or someone else WX> reshuffled the relocation information. I have had problems with an elfToBin on the PowerPC. I was doing something different and the program would add lots of zeros at the beginning of the image. I don't know what a `switch blade' board is. Do you load the ".bin" or the ".st"? I am guessing the ".bin". You can generate a map file by adding the following, "LDFLAGS += -Map mymapfile" I think that there are other ways to generate a map file. You can verify that the offsets in the map file match the offsets in the binary file. At any rate, it could be that the coffToBin is adding data to the image. I have seen this before; I may have had bad symbols in my coff/elf file and it may not have been the tools fault. At any rate, generate a map file and make sure that the code matches up and how it changes. If there are lots of zeros at the start of the ".bin", then you might have some undefined symbol or a symbol defined to zero. hth, Bill - -- I'm pretending that we're all watching PHIL SILVERS instead of RICARDO MONTALBAN! Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VME Shared Memory Network Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:11:39 -0500 From: s.eckardt@ixthos.com Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <9893r3$jpo$1@overload.lbl.gov> I'm trying to configure vxWorks (Tornado 2) to implement a shared memory network across a VME backplane, using mailbox interrupts for message notification. The applicable parameters in config.h are as follows: #define SM_INT_TYPE SM_INT_MAILBOX_4 /* longword write to a mailbox */ #define SM_INT_ARG1 VME_AM_EXT_SUP_DATA /* modifier for supervisor data in extended addr space */ #define SM_INT_ARG2 0xfc000348 /* local address of mailbox 0 */ #define SM_INT_ARG3 0 /* write value */ With these parameters, I fail the call to smNetAttach() with an errno of 0xd0003 (s_iosLib_INVALID_FILE_DESCRIPTOR?). If I change SM_INT_ARG2 to 0, smNetAttach() completes successfully. Does anyone know what kind of checking is performed on SM_INT_ARG2? Thanks, Suzie Eckardt Chief Software Engineer Ixthos, Inc. s.eckardt@ixthos.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: getting fcc3 to work on the sbc8260 vxworks BSP Date: 8 Mar 2001 23:33:04 GMT From: gvarndell@hotmail.com Organization: NewsOne.Net - Free Usenet News via the Web - http://newsone.net/ Message-ID: <9894rg$n4g$1@news.netmar.com> References: <986ff3$48r$1@overload.lbl.gov> Followup-To: comp.os.vxworks I am aware of only one errata that singles out FCC3 as having problems due to internal priority error. Other than that, the driver should work for any FCC that the underlying hardware supports. It sounds like you're trying to merely tweak the driver and have it utilize FCC1 or FCC3 on the SBC8260 board. This isn't going to work. The SBC8260 board has specific I/O pins connected to support FCC2 and only FCC2 for fast ethernet. You can't just pick a different FCC. On the up side, if you have a board that has been designed to use a different FCC, the driver *will* work with minimal changes required. Best Regards, George Varndell - -- Varndell Engineering, LLC. Embedded Systems Expertise http://www.varndellengineering.com In article <986ff3$48r$1@overload.lbl.gov>, richard garrick writes: >Does anybody have experience getting an FCC (MPC8260 >Fast Communication Controller)other than FCC2 to run >fast Ethernet using the SBC8260 BSP (Board Support >Package)? > >The FCC driver in the SBC8260 BSP is an END driver. >We have licensed the SBC8260 board support developers' >kit so I have had the privilege of reading the driver >code. The code appears to be well thought out and >cleanly written instead being a hack of ancient code. > >Studying the code indicates loading endDevTbl[](in >configNet.h) with the right data and modifying >sysMotFccEndLoad()(in sysMotFccEnd.c)so the 3rd and >4th calls to it handle the second entry for FCC3 in >endDevTbbl[] and associating the correct FCC number >and PHY number with it should work but it does not. >All appears well from the driver debug output but >NEITHER FCC2 or FCC3 work. The same is true if just >FCC3 is loaded. When I just load FCC2, everything >works fine. > >The driver was written to support all 3 FCCs but only >works with FCC2 as sold. WindRiver and EST balked at >providing support as only FCC2 is officially supported >by the BSP. I hate to contract WindRiver Professional >Services to to get something working that should >already be operational. > >Any insights on getting FCC3 or FCC1 working with this >driver would be greatly appreciated. ----- Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the Web ----- http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam. If this or other posts made through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email abuse@newsone.net --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Help: Serial I/O PPC850, VxWorks 5.4, Tornado II Date: 9 Mar 2001 00:22:22 GMT From: yucao@alumnae.caltech.edu (Yu Cao) Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Keywords: OPT_ECHO, CR, ^M Message-ID: <9897nu$se9@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Hi all. I'm having a problem with the VxWorks serial driver. First of all the OPT_CRMOD option does not work as advertised (I found a message dated 1993 which reported the same problem with VxWorks 5.1). Instead of translating an output LF into CR-LF as claimed in the manual, it outputs LF-CR. But that's okay ... I just had to add another layer of code that does the translation properly and turn off OPT_CRMOD. This has the side effect that input CR's are not translated into LF's. That's also okay, I can handle it. But the problem is, now the CR's are echoed (I have OPT_ECHO on) as "^M", yes, "^" and "M", two characters, as I found out on Hyperterm. Other CR characters that I print out (printf("\r\n")) show up correctly. I am a little reluctant to implement echo in my application (which I know can be done by looking at the input character by character), although it looks like I'll probably end up having to do that. Any help would be highly appreciated. This issue is holding up a customer sign-off for us. - --Yu P.S. If you would be so kind as to include a mail cc'ed to this account that would be very nice. That's probably going to be faster than my news feed. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Where to download Tornado 2.0 Windows 2000 Patch? Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:04:15 +0800 From: "Dave" Organization: The news server of Changzhou TeleCom Message-ID: <984tbs$u9t$1@news.cz.js.cn> Reply-To: "Dave" Hi, Do you know where to download Tornado 2.0 Windows 2000 Patch? Thank you. Dave --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Where to download Tornado 2.0 Windows 2000 Patch? Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:20:08 +0800 From: "Dave" Organization: The news server of Changzhou TeleCom Message-ID: <984ugm$12e6$1@news.cz.js.cn> Reply-To: "Dave" Hi, Do you know where to download Tornado 2.0 Windows 2000 Patch? Thank you. Dave --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: ARM MMU vs. write to flash Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 21:47:55 -0800 From: Scott Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: I'm developing for the IXP1200, and running vxWorks on the StrongARM. Here's what I need for the image: ROMable (i.e. boot from flash instead of downloading image from a host) brings up Ethernet read or write to flash at any time (parameter storage and persistence) There is no file system on the device. My first effort was to build a standalone ROM image (vxWorks.st_rom.bin). I was able to get the network init code running. Then I created a test function to write to and read from the boot line area in NVRAM (i.e. in Flash), a known "safe" area. Calling this function would hang the target shell (Data Access). I looked at cache settings and finally found the culprit: usrMmuInit(), which initializes the ARM memory manager. usrMmuInit() called => sysNvRamSet() fails. usrMmuInit() skipped => sysNvRamSet() succeeds. Notably, the code in usrConfig.c calls usrMmuInit(), while bootConfig.c code (for boot ROM) does not. The boot ROM code has no problem writing flash because params entered in the boot menu are saved. From what I can tell in the docs, the MMU is required once you get past the boot stage. But I couldn't find a way to have it cooperate with sysNvRamSet() or vice versa, or where flash might be mapped. Any ideas on where to go next? Thanks Scott - -- Scott Oglesby http://kurumi.com/ 3di's, Conn. Roads, maps, SignMaker --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Where to download Tornado 2.0 Windows 2000 Patch? Date: 9 Mar 2001 08:23:34 GMT From: borkhuis@agere.com (Johan Borkhuis) Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: References: <984ugm$12e6$1@news.cz.js.cn> "Dave" wrote: >Hi, >Do you know where to download Tornado 2.0 Windows 2000 Patch? >Thank you. You can find this on WindSurf, the support website for VxWorks. There is a normal patch-file for Tornado, but also the Tornado 2.0.2 update. The W2k update is also incoprporated in this update. Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: network stability and unexpected breakpoints: Tornado 1.0.1 PowerPC Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 10:44:16 +0100 From: Friedrich.Scheurer@t-online.de (Friedrich Scheurer / Goeppingen) Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <98aagj$d2i$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hello VxWorkers, as was reported in the past there are problems with stable network for the dec21x4x-Driver and the netTask. We're suffering from sporadic connection problems between Sol 2.X and MVME2700 making it sometimes impossible to hold our tgtsvr-connection. - - Sometimes tgtsvr crashes when loading the object through the host-shell. - - Sometimes netTask is restarted, when loading the file through Crosswind. - - Sometimes we have "unexpected breakpoint" messages in Crosswind while debugging the code. Breakpoints stop Crosswind that have never been set. Some of them are even reported on the host-shell with an offset to a initial breakpoint set when starting the debug session. Has anyone got a fix of all these problems for T1.0.1 BSP mvme2700 or mvme2604? Any soft and "hardcoded" hint is gratefully appreciated. Best regards and TIA F. Scheurer - -- +-------------------------------------------------+ | Dipl.-Ing. F. Scheurer | | c/o Zentrum Fertigungstechnik Stuttgart | | Nobelstrasse 15 | | D-70569 Stuttgart | | Telefon +49 711 13162-41(-0) | | Fax +49 711 13162-11 | | E-Mail scheurer@zfs.tz.uni-stuttgart.de | | WWW http://www.zfs.tz.uni-stuttgart.de | +-------------------------------------------------+ | privat: Waldeckstrasse 31 | | D-73035 Goeppingen | | Telefon +49 7161 686362 Fax +49 7161 686301 | | Mobil +49 170 31 77 539 | | E-Mail Friedrich.Scheurer@t-online.de | | oder Friedrich_Scheurer@comundo.de | | oder Friedrich.Scheurer@lycosmail.com | | WWW http://members.tripod.de/machinist/ | | WWW http://www.friedrichscheurer.com/ | +-------------------------------------------------+ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.realtime,comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: ISRs Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:58:59 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <984135821.662471@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AA698CD.6FE2E645@lucent.com> <983998085.437026@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <3AA6A4E7.9FE5AA76@notifier-is.net> <986ce5$eo24@cui1.lmms.lmco.com> <3aa7b74c.0@news.kivex.com> <988ie3$eo43@cui1.lmms.lmco.com> I think your post was well suited or necessary because of the previous one. One could have decorated it with a mentioning of not calling it without NO_WAIT in ISR. But it was clear to me regards werner M. Kotiaho wrote in message news:988ie3$eo43@cui1.lmms.lmco.com... > > "Jack" wrote in message > news:3aa7b74c.0@news.kivex.com... > > > > > msgQSend is okay as long as the timeout parameter is set to NO_WAIT. > > > Otherwise, msgQSend will pend if the queue is full. > > > > I don't think this is the case. An ISR is not allowed to pend. Therefore, if > > you call msgQSend with a timeout value other than NO_WAIT, the call > > will fail. VxWorks knows what context you are calling from and will not > > allow the ISR to block. > > > > > > Jack > > > > You are correct. I was responding to a comment of the previous poster which > said that msgQSend does not pend, but rather returns an error, when the queue > is full. It seems clear to me now that he was referring to calling msgQSend > from an ISR (as that is the topic of this entire thread). > > My intention was to point out that msgQSend *can* pend in general. Obviously, > this information was not relevant to this thread. > > Sorry about that ... I will read more carefully next time. > > Markku > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Combining downloadable and bootable projects Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:00:43 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <984135925.502132@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <985fqk$ftc$1@overload.lbl.gov> <983981196.781316@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <989164$ec4$01$1@news.t-online.com> Don't you think this is a bit of an overkill? Just to link some projects to one image? regards werner Martin Raabe wrote in message news:989164$ec4$01$1@news.t-online.com... > Or you go for SNiFF+ as an Software Development environment to link more > than one downloadable. > > Check it out on www.windriver.com/sniff > > Martin Raabe > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Writing Debug messages to COM ports Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:12:57 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <984136658.201580@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: For debug messages you should use logLib, this can also be used from ISR context. You can add a logging device with logFdAdd Just open the serial console you want for writing. Do logFdAdd the thing and you are done. I think there is also logFdSet, if you want the messages on your serial terminal exclusively hth werner Jaffar Shaikh wrote in message news:xyQp6.422$0T2.30471362@nr1.ottawa.istar.net... > Hi, > > I would like to write debug messages to Com Ports (Hyperterminal) could > someone tell me how can I write the messages to Com 1 or Com 2 ports? > > Thanks > > J Shaikh > Mitel Corp. > Kanata, On, Canada > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How to spawn two target server for two different boards in one machine? Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 07:13:43 -0600 From: Edsel Harrell Organization: Raytheon Company Message-ID: <3AA8D707.BDB80BF9@raytheon.com> References: <90a6f9$1kku$1@news.cz.js.cn> TonyHuang wrote: > Hi vxworkers, > > I am trying to make a communication test through ethernet between two > PPC860T boards. > > I assigned the two boards with different IP address, different MAC address, > different user name, different target name, > and booted them from the tornado host , the booting processes of both are > OK. > > then I tried to spawn the target server for each board with different IP > address that I assigned before. > the first spawned target sever is OK, but when the second is spawned, the > first is corrupted. > > I have paid attention to the two target board's ethernet LED indicators, > they always blinks synchronously. > I'm not sure the tornado tools takes them different target. > > Why can't I start two target servers at the same time? Tornado2 does not > support this? > or maybe my network configuration has problem? > Please give me some suggestion. > Thanks in advance. > > My testing environment: > > Tornado2 project facility; > vxWorks5.4; > MPC860T50B3; > motFecEnd driver; > Booting from ethernet using FTP protocol. > > Tony The tgtsrv names also must be unique... I typically run 10-15 boards with unique tgtsrv and windshells... so 2 should be no problem. - -- Edsel A. Harrell, Jr (voice) (972) 575-6468 (email) eah@raytheon.com Sr Principal Systems Eng/honors (pager) (972) 558-4204 (numeric numbers only) Raytheon Systems Company (snail) 6600 Chase Oaks Blvd, MS 8454, Plano, Tx 75023 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Proofread Carefully to See if You Any Words Out" DISCLAIMER: I speak only for myself, not my employer. EXCEPTION: If any of my ideas are worth more than $0.02, then they are property of my employer. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Where to download Tornado 2.0 Windows 2000 Patch? Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 14:52:54 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <984ugm$12e6$1@news.cz.js.cn> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>>>> "JB" == Johan Borkhuis writes: JB> You can find this on WindSurf, the support website for JB> VxWorks. There is a normal patch-file for Tornado, but also the JB> Tornado 2.0.2 update. The W2k update is also incoprporated in JB> this update. Is this the correct link? "http://www.windriver.com/csdocs/patch/Tornado_2.0.2/index.html" I see patches for MIPS, PowerPC, X86, 68K, CPU32, and VxSim. There is no update for the ARM? Is this an oversight or is it not needed? tia, Bill Pringlemeir [not directly addresses to Johan!] - -- I decided to be JOHN TRAVOLTA instead!! Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: difference between vxWorks.bin and vxWorks.st? Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:56:42 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <98aqlo$e41$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <9863dl$7er$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <988c0b$oo1$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <988v1i$b4$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Bill Pringlemeir wrote in message news:uzoevyi6f.fsf@yahoo.com... > How are you getting stack traces? With an in-house tool, or with the > `tt' command from vxWorks shell (or Tornado). The addresses of a > stack trace won't always match functions _EXACTLY_. The stack trace > stores addresses in and around the middle of functions. It is the > return address that is stored on a stack. You're right. How could I assume it's the function address? Stupid.:( --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: RE: VME Shared Memory Network Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:50:38 -0500 From: "Mike Anderson" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <98as35$l9u$1@overload.lbl.gov> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0A87E.657165D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit VxWorks Greetings! > Submitted-by: s.eckardt@ixthos.com > > I'm trying to configure vxWorks (Tornado 2) to implement a shared memory > network across a VME backplane, using mailbox interrupts for message > notification. The applicable parameters in config.h are as follows: > > #define SM_INT_TYPE SM_INT_MAILBOX_4 /* longword write to a > mailbox */ > #define SM_INT_ARG1 VME_AM_EXT_SUP_DATA /* modifier for supervisor > data in extended addr space */ > #define SM_INT_ARG2 0xfc000348 /* local address of > mailbox 0 > */ > #define SM_INT_ARG3 0 /* write value */ > > With these parameters, I fail the call to smNetAttach() with an errno of > 0xd0003 (s_iosLib_INVALID_FILE_DESCRIPTOR?). If I change > SM_INT_ARG2 to 0, > smNetAttach() completes successfully. Does anyone know what kind of > checking is performed on SM_INT_ARG2? > Are the mailboxes located in A24 or A32 space? Generally, mailboxes are located in A16 space (VME short I/O). If they are in A16 space, then you won't be able to do a longword write to this region. By default, you'll need to do A16/D8 cycles to this region (VME_AM_SHORT_SUP_DATA). So, change your SM_INT_MAILBOX_4 to SM_INT_MAILBOX_1 and try it again. On the other hand, if your mailboxes are in A24 or A32 space, then look at the sysLocalToBusAdrs/sysPhysMemDesc to ensure that your mailbox address is really mapped into your address space and that the sysLocalToBusAdrs() is working properly. You should be able to write to this mailbox address from the shell to test this out. HTH, Mike Anderson - -- ======================================================= T h e P T R G r o u p, I n c. ======================================================= Embedded, Real-Time Solutions Mike Anderson mailto:mike@ThePTRGroup.com Chief Scientist http://www.ThePTRGroup.com V: (703) 585-9384 F: (703) 430-3748 ======================================================= "Software development is like making a baby... You can't make a baby in one month by impregnating nine women. 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TITLE:Chief Scientist TEL;WORK;VOICE:(703) 585-9384 TEL;WORK;FAX:(703) 430-3748 ADR;WORK:;;1438 Cellar Creek Way;Herndon;VA;20170;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:1438 Cellar Creek = Way=3D0D=3D0AHerndon, VA 20170=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL: URL:http://www.theptrgroup.com EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:mike@theptrgroup.com REV:20001211T173220Z END:VCARD - ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0A87E.657165D0-- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: [Help Me] task Delay less than sys clk tick Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 09:31:37 -0600 From: Eric Lesch Organization: Lockheed Martin Missiles and Firing Control - Dallas Message-ID: <3AA8F759.F04D0BF3@lmco.com> References: <9833a5$eo21@cui1.lmms.lmco.com> <3AA5BF07.E3B730B7@yahoo.com> The decrementer does wrap by default, the system clock driver resets it when a decrementer interrupt occurs. The way that skew is removed is by using the amount that it has rolled over to determine the reset value. If somebody had some free time, they might develop a library to provide virtual timers based on the decrementer and the time base register, at least for the PPC architecture. The system clock could then just be one of the virtual timers. I started writing this library, but have not had time to complete it. If I do complete it, I will put it out here for everybody to use. Pete Kockritz wrote: > In article , "dgold1" > wrote: > > > >> "Kim, Jeong-Hwan" wrote in message > > >> news:Fq3p6.211$qP.5115@news2.bora.net... > > >> > How can I delay a process less than one system clock tick ? > > >> > For example, when I set system clock using sysClkRateSet(60) > > >> > how can I delay less than 1/60 second ? > > >> > If I use taskDelay(), I can delay only 1/60. > > >> > I'm using MPC8260 > > >> > > > > > You can read the decrementer register with vxDecGet(), and handle the case > > of it wrapping, or > > you could also read (since you're on a PPC) the time base registers. I > > thought all the PPC BSPs came with a vxWorks function to read the time base > > registers, or you can write a simple one patterned after the others in > > sysAlib.s. > > > > hth, > > Dan Gold gold@ensemblecom.com > > I don't think the decrementer wraps (at least not on PPC), it gets reloaded > to the starting value in the system tick ISR. You could use that in > conjunction with sysTick() to monitor the passing of time. > > vxTimeBaseGet() (in target/h/arch/ppc/vxPpcLib.h) retrieves the 64 bit > timebase register. I use it for doing high resolution timing measurements. > I believe it runs off of the same clk signal as the decrementer. On our > system that's 4.xx MHz, so I just shift the timebase lower register right > by 2 bits and get an approximation of microseconds. > > If you need precise short delays, you could just spin in a loop waiting for > the timebase delta from the initial value to reach the desired amount of > time. If you need precise long delays, you should probably investigate > the sysAuxClk functions. > > Regards, > Pete > -- > +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Pete Kockritz mailto:pkockritz@home.com | > | This space for rent. | > +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Where to download Tornado 2.0 Windows 2000 Patch? Date: 9 Mar 2001 16:06:33 GMT From: borkhuis@agere.com (Johan Borkhuis) Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: References: <984ugm$12e6$1@news.cz.js.cn> Bill Pringlemeir wrote: >Is this the correct link? > > "http://www.windriver.com/csdocs/patch/Tornado_2.0.2/index.html" > >I see patches for MIPS, PowerPC, X86, 68K, CPU32, and VxSim. There is >no update for the ARM? Is this an oversight or is it not needed? Yes, it is. And yes, there is no update for ARM. But ARM has version 2.0.1, and according to the information I got from WRS there will be no 2.0.2 for ARM. Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:19:38 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: <%x8q6.24$UG4.3002@newsr1.u-net.net> References: <97i4ba$htj$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <0nbp9tg0ep20cd2r29k1i3jskpnh4kfp8d@4ax.com> <97jopv$fsv$14@intimidator.databasix.com> <0pgr9tgfe46oob4uibd2gu1bomiqshucoi@4ax.com> <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <8k1s9t4bke6qipkh8d2hsqjniie5do0ns1@4ax.com> <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> > wrote in message <988sa4$fc4$11@intimidator.databasix.com>... >Dave Korn wrote: > >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com>... >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:37:35 >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:02:26 >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 >> 17:56:06 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated >> this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 >> 17:11:22 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated >> this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >> of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 >> 08:04:46 >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> >> Expectorated this >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the >> aethyr of >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... >> Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't >> often do this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am >> horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and >> intensive yogic training to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then >> smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the >> practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully >> habituated to both. I still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the >> night, and then drink. A couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for >> teh hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll >> stick with the hangover or just >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? >> OK!!! If you insist, even if you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too >> though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can >> do without smoking, and will >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and >> yes I do want too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you >> aprove. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to >> drive now. You >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking >> alone. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I >> sure don't. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice >> for >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone >> else. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never >> just limit yourself. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't >> drink! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K >> sent me. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried >> >> >> >> >and hopefully never will. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am >> sorry >> >> >> >> for bringing it up! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it >> will stop >> >> >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. >> >> >> > >> >> >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. >> >> > >> >> >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed >> anyway. >> >> > >> >> An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. >> > >> >And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after >> >drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. >> >> Was that his name or where he cut himself ? >> >> DaveK > >Mick. Thumb. Damn, a sensible answer to a stupid question. Still, at least we've disproved one old saying today. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:16:53 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: <_x8q6.22$UG4.3051@newsr1.u-net.net> References: <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4do$htj$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <3obp9t4llods18sb05qrueng9t0qgifh96@4ax.com> <97jos1$fsv$15@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kotb$3si$10@intimidator.databasix.com> > wrote in message <988s8b$fc4$10@intimidator.databasix.com>... >Dave Korn wrote: > >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> <982fc9$32t$7@intimidator.databasix.com>... >> >Dave Korn wrote: >> > >> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> >> <97oa56$432$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >> >> >> <3a9f158c.b5ab8@newton.pacific.net.au>... >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 >> 17:12:42 >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated >> this >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 >> >> 08:05:54 >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated >> >> this >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >> of >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... Though >> if I >> >> >> drink alot then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >smoke a bit, then >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't >> often >> >> do >> >> >> this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am horribly >> >> >> pissed, it just makes >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >me fall >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and >> >> intensive >> >> >> yogic training >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >to be able to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then smoke >> >> >> yourself stupid without >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pukeing or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the >> practise >> >> is >> >> >> rewarding in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and of itself :-D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully >> >> habituated >> >> >> to both. I >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >still find it >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the night, >> >> and >> >> >> then drink. A >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >couple of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for teh >> >> >> hang-over as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll stick >> >> with >> >> >> the hangover or >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >just >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? OK!!! >> If >> >> you >> >> >> insist, even if >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do >> >> without >> >> >> smoking, and >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >will >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and yes >> I >> >> do >> >> >> want too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you >> aprove. >> >> >> :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Well, while your there... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Double be ok? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to drive >> >> now. >> >> >> You >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>better have both. Fuck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking alone. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I'll help ya with that spare one! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No problem Dave! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You leave spare drinks lying around? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No that was the one I got for you, that you couldn't have >> >> >> because you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> were driving. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Oh... Woo. Thanks for clearing that up. I was nearly >> about >> >> to >> >> >> drop all >> >> >> >> >> >> >communications with you. It was nice of you to give it to >> >> DaveK, >> >> >> though >> >> >> >> >> >> >personally I would have drank it myself if I was you. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> So would I, but he promised the next shout, and we kept >> >> drinking, >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> >> I eventually woke up in a dumpster, but hey it was a great >> >> night! >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >It has to have been a good night if you woke up in a dumpster. >> >> Did >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >end up with a traffic cone? >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> It was a stop sign this time, the whole thing sign, pole and >> lump >> >> of >> >> >> >> >> concrete. I wish I could remember how that happened! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Check your house for a pick.... Or a nieghbourhood car for panel >> >> >> damage. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I guess it must have been Dave K's car! >> >> >> > >> >> >> >What? He won't post in our threads, but he's off getting pissed with >> >> you, >> >> >> >drink driving and shit... >> >> >> >> >> >> AAAAAAARRRGHA OHMYGODITWASAWFUL ITELLYOU AWFULAAAAARRRGH I've just >> >> been >> >> >> through the most terrifying Usenet experience ever. >> >> >> >> >> >> Something went wrong with the feed to and from my server. It was >> like >> >> >> being trapped in a cave or mine when the entrance tunnel collapses. >> >> There >> >> >> were hundreds of us, trapped in there. We were desparate to call for >> >> help, >> >> >> but nobody could get a message in or out to the outside world. Cut >> off >> >> from >> >> >> outside existence, nothing but the sound of our own posts echoing >> around >> >> in >> >> >> the dark, wondering how long it would be before rescue came. Some >> turned >> >> to >> >> >> cannibalism, others jumped into the bottomless pits in despair, only >> the >> >> >> mentally tough were able to survive... >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm deeply traumatised. I think I need a drink. Fortunately I'm >> off >> >> down >> >> >> to London this evening to go on a major pissup with a bunch of old >> mates >> >> >> from way back when, so I should have recovered my aplomb by the end of >> >> the >> >> >> weekend :) >> >> >> >> >> >> DaveK >> >> > >> >> >So that's where you been.... I was just about to claim spank on you. >> >> >Oh well, I'll have to try on someone else. Have fun. >> >> >> >> Heh. I did :) >> >> >> >> DaveK >> > >> >You would have to had to. But coudn't you have waited for a few more >> >days and let me claim spank? >> >> I could have done, but tell me the truth: would you really have been happy >> with such an undeserved spnak? If we were playing pool in the pub, would >> you say "Oh, please don't pocket your balls before I've finished sinking >> mine?" Would you be happy with the victory if I had let you win? What >> would that do for your self-esteem? You see, I've only got your best >> interests at heart! >> >> DaveK > >Yes. Yes and Fucking Yes. >I take any and all victories I can lay my hands on. >But I can understand your reltuctance in giving away free spanks, >and making people work for it. Allegedly, one of the teachers at my old school liked to give away free spanks. Don't think it was anything to do with usenet back in those days, though. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:18:30 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: <%x8q6.23$UG4.2633@newsr1.u-net.net> References: <0pgr9tgfe46oob4uibd2gu1bomiqshucoi@4ax.com> <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <8k1s9t4bke6qipkh8d2hsqjniie5do0ns1@4ax.com> <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <2hLp6.168$_w4.75189@newsr1.u-net.net> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:36:05 >-0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated >this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >of alt.usenet.kooks : > >>STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message >><97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com>... >>>Optional Identity wrote: >>> >>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:37:35 >>>> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>>> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>>> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>> >>>> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:02:26 >>>> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this >>>> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>>> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>> >> >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 >>17:56:06 >>>> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated >>this >>>> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of >>>> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 >>17:11:22 >>>> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated >>this >>>> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr >>of >>>> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 >>08:04:46 >>>> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> >>Expectorated this >>>> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the >>aethyr of >>>> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... >>Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't >>often do this. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am >>horribly pissed, it just makes me fall >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and >>intensive yogic training to be able to >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then >>smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the >>practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully >>habituated to both. I still find it >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the >>night, and then drink. A couple of >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for >>teh hang-over as well. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll >>stick with the hangover or just >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? >>OK!!! If you insist, even if you >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too >>though. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can >>do without smoking, and will >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and >>yes I do want too. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you >>aprove. :) >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to >>drive now. You >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking >>alone. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I >>sure don't. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be practice >>for >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone >>else. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. Never >>just limit yourself. >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I won't >>drink! >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave K >>sent me. >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried >>>> >> >> >and hopefully never will. >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am >>sorry >>>> >> >> for bringing it up! >>>> >> > >>>> >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it >>will stop >>>> >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. >>>> >> > >>>> >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. >>>> > >>>> >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed >>anyway. >>>> > >>>> An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. >>> >>>And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after >>>drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. >> >> Was that his name or where he cut himself ? >> >> DaveK > >I am wondering why he was playing with a carving knife and his dick at >the same time he was drinking? The dude sure knows how to party! DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Where to download Tornado 2.0 Windows 2000 Patch? Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:08:03 -0800 From: Organization: SBC Internet Services Message-ID: References: <984ugm$12e6$1@news.cz.js.cn> Actually, if I can amplify this. There is an xscale (aka StrongArm2, aka Coyanosa with attached Yavapai) BSP in beta on windsurf that some are using. It replaces the current ARM BSP as the SA110 appears to have a short future. The customer might contact his FAE to discuss the applicability of it to his project. "Johan Borkhuis" wrote in message news:Xns905FAE0C1E57Eborkhuislucentcom@135.7.153.101... > Bill Pringlemeir wrote: > >Is this the correct link? > > > > "http://www.windriver.com/csdocs/patch/Tornado_2.0.2/index.html" > > > >I see patches for MIPS, PowerPC, X86, 68K, CPU32, and VxSim. There is > >no update for the ARM? Is this an oversight or is it not needed? > > Yes, it is. And yes, there is no update for ARM. But ARM has version 2.0.1, > and according to the information I got from WRS there will be no 2.0.2 for > ARM. > > Groeten, > Johan > > -- > o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ > o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | > .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | > >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| > _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` > === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: network stability and unexpected breakpoints: Tornado 1.0.1 PowerPC Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 14:55:05 -0600 From: Andrew Johnson Organization: APS, Argonne National Laboratory Message-ID: <3AA94329.45EE54A2@aps.anl.gov> References: <98aagj$d2i$1@overload.lbl.gov> Friedrich Scheurer / Goeppingen wrote: > > We're suffering from sporadic connection problems > between Sol 2.X and MVME2700 making it sometimes > impossible to hold our tgtsvr-connection. ... > Has anyone got a fix of all these problems > for T1.0.1 BSP mvme2700 or mvme2604? Have a look at your network to see if you have lots of errors (runt packets, collisions etc). If you do, it could be because the half/full duplex negotiation isn't agreeing with how the driver sets up the dc chip. Make sure you've installed the latest relevent patches from windSurf, and try changing the setting of DC_MODE in your config.h file from 0x08 to 0x18. - - Andrew - -- Every great idea appears crazy to start with. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: using my custom BSP code to built a vxworks image Date: 9 Mar 2001 22:35:07 +0100 From: bpatel@princetonoptical.com (Bhavesh Patel) Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: <3AA94D11.E7912CBA@princetonoptical.com> Hi, I am using Tornado2.0 ,vxWorks5.4 on host Windows98 for EST8260 board. When I want to built a custom bootable vxworks image, I do the following - - 1) From the file pull-down list select "New Project" 2) select "create a bootable vxWorks image", next 3) give the project name, location and description, next 4) select "base my project on a BSP" At this point, I have the option of selecting "est8260, simpc, templatePpc,... etc". Normally, I select "est8260" for my development environment. However, I am at a point where we have the a custom BSP (called ots8260 ) ready. The pulldown list currently DOES NOT allow me to choose "ots8260". Now, the question is which tcl files in "tornado/host/resource/tcl/app-config" need to modified so that I can give the name of my "BSP_DIR" (ie, ots8260) in the pull-down list?, If not the tcl files what needs to be done so that I can base my custom vwWorks image on this new BSP. Any help is very much appreciated. bhavesh patel - -- Posted from 64-56-57-146.comcasttel.net [64.56.57.146] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: using my custom BSP code to built a vxworks image Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 17:44:08 -0800 From: "Michael R. Kesti" Organization: MK Associates Message-ID: <3AA986E8.CC269BA4@gv.net> References: <3AA94D11.E7912CBA@princetonoptical.com> Reply-To: mkesti@gv.net Bhavesh Patel wrote: >I am using Tornado2.0 ,vxWorks5.4 on host Windows98 for EST8260 board. > >When I want to built a custom bootable vxworks image, I do the following >- >1) From the file pull-down list select "New Project" >2) select "create a bootable vxWorks image", next >3) give the project name, location and description, next >4) select "base my project on a BSP" >At this point, I have the option of selecting "est8260, simpc, >templatePpc,... etc". Normally, I select "est8260" for my development >environment. However, I am at a point where we have the a custom BSP >(called ots8260 ) ready. The pulldown list currently DOES NOT allow me >to choose "ots8260". Now, the question is which tcl files in >"tornado/host/resource/tcl/app-config" need to modified so that I can >give the name of my "BSP_DIR" (ie, ots8260) in the pull-down list?, If >not the tcl files what needs to be done so that I can base my custom >vwWorks image on this new BSP. Any directory under .../tornado/target/config that contains a file named config.h at the time time Tornadostarts is a selectable BSP for that Tornado session. I'm not certain, but I think the name that Tornado uses is the name of the directory. Anyway, you have to restart Tornado after you add your BSP directory. - -- ======================================================================== Michael Kesti | "And like, one and one don't make | two, one and one make one." mkesti@gv.net | - The Who, Bargain --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:00:51 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <98c1qt$477$1@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <0pgr9tgfe46oob4uibd2gu1bomiqshucoi@4ax.com> <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <8k1s9t4bke6qipkh8d2hsqjniie5do0ns1@4ax.com> <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <2hLp6.168$_w4.75189@newsr1.u-net.net> Optional Identity wrote in message ... > >According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:36:05 > >-0000, the Troll "Dave Korn" Expectorated > >this obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > >of alt.usenet.kooks : > > > >>STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >><97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >>>Optional Identity wrote: > >>> > >>>> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:37:35 > >>>> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >>>> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >>>> alt.usenet.kooks : > >>>> > >>>> >Optional Identity wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 > 08:02:26 > >>>> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated > this > >>>> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >>>> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >>>> >> > >>>> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 > >>17:56:06 > >>>> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated > >>this > >>>> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > of > >>>> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 > >>17:11:22 > >>>> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > Expectorated > >>this > >>>> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the > aethyr > >>of > >>>> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >>>> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar > 2001 > >>08:04:46 > >>>> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > >>Expectorated this > >>>> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the > >>aethyr of > >>>> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >>>> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... > >>Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I > don't > >>often do this. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am > >>horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise > and > >>intensive yogic training to be able to > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then > >>smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the > >>practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are > fully > >>habituated to both. I still find it > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the > >>night, and then drink. A couple of > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for > >>teh hang-over as well. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll > >>stick with the hangover or just > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? > >>OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too > >>though. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can > >>do without smoking, and will > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the > morning. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, > and > >>yes I do want too. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that > you > >>aprove. :) > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to > >>drive now. You > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking > >>alone. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I > >>sure don't. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be > practice > >>for > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone > >>else. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. > Never > >>just limit yourself. > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I > won't > >>drink! > >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. > >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff Dave > K > >>sent me. > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. > >>>> >> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried > >>>> >> >> >and hopefully never will. > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am > >>sorry > >>>> >> >> for bringing it up! > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it > >>will stop > >>>> >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. > >>>> > > >>>> >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed > >>anyway. > >>>> > > >>>> An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. > >>> > >>>And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after > >>>drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. > >> > >> Was that his name or where he cut himself ? > >> > >> DaveK > > > >I am wondering why he was playing with a carving knife and his dick at > >the same time he was drinking? > > The dude sure knows how to party! > > DaveK You wouldn't think so if you meet him. Still he got light duties at work for two weeks out of it. - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:59:24 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <98c1o5$242$1@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <977bek$n4g$5@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9bc2c4.2a622@newton.pacific.net.au> <97i4do$htj$11@intimidator.databasix.com> <3obp9t4llods18sb05qrueng9t0qgifh96@4ax.com> <97jos1$fsv$15@intimidator.databasix.com> <97kotb$3si$10@intimidator.databasix.com> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > <988s8b$fc4$10@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >Dave Korn wrote: > > > >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >> <982fc9$32t$7@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >> >Dave Korn wrote: > >> > > >> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >> >> <97oa56$432$1@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >> >> >Dave Korn wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >> >> >> <3a9f158c.b5ab8@newton.pacific.net.au>... > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 > >> 17:12:42 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated > >> this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 > >> >> 08:05:54 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > Expectorated > >> >> this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the > aethyr > >> of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... > Though > >> if I > >> >> >> drink alot then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I don't > >> often > >> >> do > >> >> >> this. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am > horribly > >> >> >> pissed, it just makes > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise and > >> >> intensive > >> >> >> yogic training > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then > smoke > >> >> >> yourself stupid without > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately the > >> practise > >> >> is > >> >> >> rewarding in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are fully > >> >> habituated > >> >> >> to both. I > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the > night, > >> >> and > >> >> >> then drink. A > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good for > teh > >> >> >> hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll > stick > >> >> with > >> >> >> the hangover or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >just > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? > OK!!! > >> If > >> >> you > >> >> >> insist, even if > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too > though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and can do > >> >> without > >> >> >> smoking, and > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >will > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >never do it first thing in the morning. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, and > yes > >> I > >> >> do > >> >> >> want too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that you > >> aprove. > >> >> >> :) > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have to > drive > >> >> now. > >> >> >> You > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking > alone. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I'll help ya with that spare one! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No problem Dave! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You leave spare drinks lying around? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No that was the one I got for you, that you couldn't > have > >> >> >> because you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> were driving. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Oh... Woo. Thanks for clearing that up. I was nearly > >> about > >> >> to > >> >> >> drop all > >> >> >> >> >> >> >communications with you. It was nice of you to give it > to > >> >> DaveK, > >> >> >> though > >> >> >> >> >> >> >personally I would have drank it myself if I was you. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> So would I, but he promised the next shout, and we kept > >> >> drinking, > >> >> >> and > >> >> >> >> >> >> I eventually woke up in a dumpster, but hey it was a great > >> >> night! > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >It has to have been a good night if you woke up in a > dumpster. > >> >> Did > >> >> >> you > >> >> >> >> >> >end up with a traffic cone? > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> It was a stop sign this time, the whole thing sign, pole and > >> lump > >> >> of > >> >> >> >> >> concrete. I wish I could remember how that happened! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Check your house for a pick.... Or a nieghbourhood car for > panel > >> >> >> damage. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> I guess it must have been Dave K's car! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >What? He won't post in our threads, but he's off getting pissed > with > >> >> you, > >> >> >> >drink driving and shit... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> AAAAAAARRRGHA OHMYGODITWASAWFUL ITELLYOU AWFULAAAAARRRGH I've > just > >> >> been > >> >> >> through the most terrifying Usenet experience ever. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Something went wrong with the feed to and from my server. It was > >> like > >> >> >> being trapped in a cave or mine when the entrance tunnel collapses. > >> >> There > >> >> >> were hundreds of us, trapped in there. We were desparate to call > for > >> >> help, > >> >> >> but nobody could get a message in or out to the outside world. Cut > >> off > >> >> from > >> >> >> outside existence, nothing but the sound of our own posts echoing > >> around > >> >> in > >> >> >> the dark, wondering how long it would be before rescue came. Some > >> turned > >> >> to > >> >> >> cannibalism, others jumped into the bottomless pits in despair, > only > >> the > >> >> >> mentally tough were able to survive... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I'm deeply traumatised. I think I need a drink. Fortunately I'm > >> off > >> >> down > >> >> >> to London this evening to go on a major pissup with a bunch of old > >> mates > >> >> >> from way back when, so I should have recovered my aplomb by the end > of > >> >> the > >> >> >> weekend :) > >> >> >> > >> >> >> DaveK > >> >> > > >> >> >So that's where you been.... I was just about to claim spank on you. > >> >> >Oh well, I'll have to try on someone else. Have fun. > >> >> > >> >> Heh. I did :) > >> >> > >> >> DaveK > >> > > >> >You would have to had to. But coudn't you have waited for a few more > >> >days and let me claim spank? > >> > >> I could have done, but tell me the truth: would you really have been > happy > >> with such an undeserved spnak? If we were playing pool in the pub, would > >> you say "Oh, please don't pocket your balls before I've finished sinking > >> mine?" Would you be happy with the victory if I had let you win? What > >> would that do for your self-esteem? You see, I've only got your best > >> interests at heart! > >> > >> DaveK > > > >Yes. Yes and Fucking Yes. > >I take any and all victories I can lay my hands on. > >But I can understand your reltuctance in giving away free spanks, > >and making people work for it. > > Allegedly, one of the teachers at my old school liked to give away free > spanks. Don't think it was anything to do with usenet back in those days, > though. > > DaveK LOL. Uummm. Now that is one spank I wouldn't claim. - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: alt.fan.karl-malden.nose,alt.usenet.kooks,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,comp.os.vxworks,rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc,rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs,rec.arts.tv.soaps.misc,alt.fan.fucking-pigs,alt.genius.musical.ward-hog Subject: Re: [spoiler] Re: Not enough Fat Chicks in soaps Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:02:43 +1100 From: STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Organization: The Fucking Pigs Message-ID: <98c1us$477$2@intimidator.databasix.com> References: <97i4ba$htj$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <0nbp9tg0ep20cd2r29k1i3jskpnh4kfp8d@4ax.com> <97jopv$fsv$14@intimidator.databasix.com> <0pgr9tgfe46oob4uibd2gu1bomiqshucoi@4ax.com> <97koql$3si$9@intimidator.databasix.com> <97krek$jv$10@intimidator.databasix.com> <8k1s9t4bke6qipkh8d2hsqjniie5do0ns1@4ax.com> <97md1f$3jf$4@intimidator.databasix.com> <3a9f154e.a75d0@newton.pacific.net.au> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > <988sa4$fc4$11@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >Dave Korn wrote: > > > >> STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > wrote in message > >> <97nt7c$42o$9@intimidator.databasix.com>... > >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> > > >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:37:35 > >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated this > >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> > >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 > 08:02:26 > >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated > this > >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr of > >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 > >> 17:56:06 > >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> Expectorated > >> this > >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the aethyr > of > >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 > >> 17:11:22 > >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > Expectorated > >> this > >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the > aethyr > >> of > >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> According to the old (pre-meow) calendar, on Thu, 01 Mar > 2001 > >> 08:04:46 > >> >> >> >> >> >> +1100, the Troll STFGP <"goose_fp"@ pacific.net.au> > >> Expectorated this > >> >> >> >> >> >> obviously gratuitous attention seeking statement into the > >> aethyr of > >> >> >> >> >> >> alt.usenet.kooks : > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Optional Identity wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Definetly unacceptable... > >> Though if I drink alot then smoke a bit, then > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't veg out, though I > don't > >> often do this. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I try to avoid it when I am > >> horribly pissed, it just makes me fall > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > It takes years of practise > and > >> intensive yogic training to be able to > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drink yourself silly and then > >> smoke yourself stupid without pukeing or > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >passing out... Fortunately > the > >> practise is rewarding in and of itself :-D > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > DaveK > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It gets easier when you are > fully > >> habituated to both. I still find it > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> is better to smoke early in the > >> night, and then drink. A couple of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> cones in the morning is good > for > >> teh hang-over as well. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Brekky bongs... No thanks. I'll > >> stick with the hangover or just > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >keep drinking. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You are sick!! Oh, another vodka? > >> OK!!! If you insist, even if you > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't!!! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I do insist. Only if you want too > >> though. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I'm not sick, just asthmatic, and > can > >> do without smoking, and will > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >never do it first thing in the > morning. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That sounds quite reasonable to me, > and > >> yes I do want too. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >I can now sleep at night knowing that > you > >> aprove. :) > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Please barman, I want some more... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't mind if I do... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, while your there... > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Double be ok? > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >That would be fine. Wait, oh shit. I have > to > >> drive now. You > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >better have both. Fuck. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well, Ok. But I generally don't like drinking > >> alone. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's not as much fun. But who gives a fuck? I > >> sure don't. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's better than being sober alone! > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yes. I usually consider drinking alone to be > practice > >> for > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >drinking with your friends. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I only ever drink when I am alone, or with someone > >> else. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL.... I like that. And it's a good way to be. > Never > >> just limit yourself. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I do limit myself, if ever I am in any other state I > won't > >> drink! > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >I agree, I refuse to drink when I'm asleep. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, I can't be bothered with all that IV vodka stuff > Dave K > >> sent me. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >To much hassle. And I don't like needles. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> And it is so hard to find a vein when you're pissed! > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >I would suppose that would be true. Though I have never tried > >> >> >> >> >and hopefully never will. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> It is better that you never have to know this dilemma, and I am > >> sorry > >> >> >> >> for bringing it up! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Actually I'm glad I know. If I ever get unhappy and I'm pissed it > >> will stop > >> >> >> >me from trying, that is if I can remember what you said. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> You will find out the hard way if you forget. > >> >> > > >> >> >I generally have an inbuilt aversion to sharp objects when I'm pissed > >> anyway. > >> >> > > >> >> An in built survival mechanism that works well, in practice. > >> > > >> >And in reality. A dude at work was playing with a carving knife after > >> >drinking a few, and cut himself pretty badly. Dick. > >> > >> Was that his name or where he cut himself ? > >> > >> DaveK > > > >Mick. Thumb. > > Damn, a sensible answer to a stupid question. Still, at least we've > disproved one old saying today. > > DaveK I sometimes have panic attacks when posting and instead of creating a creative witty post I come out with something like the last one. Sorry about that, next time I will endeavor to answer your question as it deserves. - -- The Fucking Pigs Two guys, Scotch and Coke Belches, guitars and cakewalk The Fucking Pigs ROCK!!!! http://www.petitmorte.net/fuckingpigs/ Proud Member of the 'whoops' Killfile STFGP - Freeballing since 1999 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Using Rational with VxWorks Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:37:59 -0600 From: "Adam Cabler" Message-ID: I am trying to build vxworks apps with Rational Rose RealTime - but with no results. I get errors everytime I try a build. I also tried the stuff on the website, but it didn't help much. Anyone had any luck with this?? thanks, adam --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: changing console options Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 07:32:07 -0000 From: "Matthew Barratt" Message-ID: <984209531.19654.0.nnrp-14.9e987524@news.demon.co.uk> References: <98523v$nog$1@news.netmar.com> You might have some luck with this example code that WRS sent me. I used it as a template to redirect the shell to another tty, which proved impossible without the shellRestart function. Maybe you could redirect the shell to /null, close the serial port, reopen it, set the options your want, redirect the shell back. I don't know if the shell is going to then try and set it's own options for the serial port. Hope it helps, Matthew Barratt wrote in message news:98523v$nog$1@news.netmar.com... > I am trying to remove XON/XOFF handling from my console using following code > from my root task: > int options = ioctl(consoleFd, FIOGETOPTIONS, 0); > (void) ioctl(consoleFd, FIOSETOPTIONS, options & ~(OPT_TANDEM)); > > Unfortunately, the shell is resetting console options back to OPT_TERMINAL > (with OPT_TANDEM being turned on). > > I found out that the only way I can change console terminal options is > interactively using shell command: > ioctl 3,3,0x7b > > Is there any other way for it? I have to remove XON/XOFF option > programmatically and not interactively. Can I use startup script? How can it > be done? > > Michael > > > > > > ----- Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the eb ----- > http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups > NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam. 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You could have a task blocked on a read of a single byte from the serial port. read() won't return or use any CPU time until a byte is received (or least it doesn't on my RS604 PPC). When it receives that byte, it releases a semaphore or sends a msg or write down a pipe or something to let your main task know that something's arrived. The only problem is getting the byte from this task to the main task - maybe it could be the message in the message queue. Alternatively, use intConnect to attach an ISR to the serial port interrupt - it won't supplant the serial driver's ISR, it will get called after it (so I understand). Your ISR could then release a semaphore, send a message, or write down a pipe (all allowed provided the calls to msgQSend(), or write(), or semGive() don't block) to notify your main task. Pipes are nice, you can use the select function on them, which might be useful. Calls to read() can be timed out using a watchdog. Before starting the read, start the watchdog. If the watchdog times out, your watchdog function releases a semaphore that you've created empty. Waiting on this semaphore is another task (that you've previously started) using semTake(...,WAIT_FOREVER). This unblocks and immediately calls ioclt(fd,FIOCANCEL,0) (something like that), then loops back to the semTake for another time. Meanwhile the read() that isn't doing anything in the main task returns with the number of bytes read so far. If the read() had finished all by itself prior to the watchdog timeout, call wdCancel to stop it. This is outlined in the docs for tyLib, I've found it useful. Matthew Barratt "Randall" wrote in message news:3aa5e865$0$30372@helios.is.co.za... > Hi all, > > I'm writing a application that communicates with other hardware via the > serial > ports. At present I poll the serial ports for any received data and then > read it when data > is received. This is obviously very inefficient. I want to read data from > the ports only when > data is actually received on the ports. > > I have tried various ways of using the serial interrupts to read the data. > > e.g. > STATUS intConnect ( (VOIDFUNCPTR *) INUM_TO_IVEC(0x20), > VOIDFUNCPTR routine, /* routine > to be called */ > int parameter ) > > > STATUS tyIRd > ( > TY_DEV_ID pTyDev, /* ptr to tty device descriptor */ > char inchar /* character read */ > ) > > None of these seem to work for me. Am I doing something wrong and if so, is > there anyone who could point > me in the right direction. > > Thanks in advance > RMichau > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: VME Shared Memory Network Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:27:22 GMT From: "Jeff Creem" Organization: Road Runner Message-ID: References: <98as35$l9u$1@overload.lbl.gov> > Are the mailboxes located in A24 or A32 space? Generally, mailboxes are > located in > A16 space (VME short I/O). If they are in A16 space, then you won't be able > to > do a longword write to this region. By default, you'll need to do A16/D8 Umm..Unless you know something about his target there is no reason to assume that you can not do a D32 transfer in A16 space.....I have worked with a few boards that in fact have mailbox addresses in A16 and do indeed handle (and expect) D32 access... --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: NPT Driver Templates Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 08:57:31 -0800 (PST) From: James Lemmond Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <98dng2$1lh$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hello, Does anyone know where I can get template source code to develop an NPT driver for VxWorks? Thanks, James __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: END and BSD4.3 Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:21:04 -0500 From: suman saraf Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3AC08848@MailAndNews.com> Sender: suman saraf Hi All, Can a BSD4.3 driver co-exist with a END driver ? We have two NIC cards, one has a BSD4.3 driver and the other has an END driver. We are having some weird problems, so I wanted to confirm on this! Thanks for the help. Suman --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Using Rational with VxWorks Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 06:16:43 GMT From: "Corey Ashford" Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: References: If you are having trouble with the product, you should contact tech support at rational. That's what they're paid for :-) support@rational.com - - Corey "Adam Cabler" wrote in message news:Wihq6.5201$887.122730@news3.atl... > I am trying to build vxworks apps with Rational Rose RealTime - but with no > results. I get errors everytime I try a build. I also tried the stuff on > the website, but it didn't help much. Anyone had any luck with this?? > > thanks, > adam > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: problem with open file descriptors Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:39:10 +0100 From: "Roderik Wildenburg" Organization: MAN Roland Druckmaschinen AG Message-ID: <987cuv$ssv$1@aras.mra.man.de> References: <3AA5DC5F.AF373987@bell-labs.com> You have to increase the system buffers (clusters) as well For this issue see the article at WindSurf : "Wind Web Server does not respond" (search for "TIME_WAIT"). With the project facility you have to increase the following Parameters of the BSP configuration : network components-> basic network initialization->betwork buffer initilization : NUM_SYS_64 NUM_SYS_128 NUM_SYS_256 NUM_SYS_512 Navneeth schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: 3AA5DC5F.AF373987@bell-labs.com... > Hi > I have an application on VxWorks where in I need to create up to > 250 sockets. I found out that NUM_FILES had been set to 50 so that the > maximum number of Open FDs in the task be restricted to 50. This has > been changed to 256. But on running the application, after opening > around 64 sockets, the OS is unable to open new sockets. checked the > errno and it says "No buffer space available". Could somebody throw > light on this problem and provide a solution > > I am using Tornado2.0 for vxworks5.4 > > Regards > Navneeth > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: allocate large memory block Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:13:11 +0800 From: "Ren Hantao" Organization: Lucent Technologies, Columbus, Ohio Message-ID: <98hb5k$jrh@nntpb.cb.lucent.com> References: <987ik4$i75$1@overload.lbl.gov> Why not use a reserved memory address? Has Ren "Jun Wu" wrote in message news:987ik4$i75$1@overload.lbl.gov... > Hi VxWorks experts, > My application need a large memory block(more than 4M, my board has 32M > memory). I'd like to know to whether it is safe to use ANSI C malloc to > allocate a large memory block larger than 4M, or there are better > alternative solutions? > > Best regards > > Jun Wu > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: PCI network drivers in vxWorks Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:07:02 +0530 From: "Rama Krishna Mandava" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <01031214102700.06445@elinux.wipsys> Dear vxWorks member, I want to know whether vxWorks supprots all PCI ether net cards or not ?. if yes where can i get drivers software? regards. M.Rama Krishna --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Using Rational with VxWorks Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:52:45 -0600 From: "Adam Cabler" Message-ID: References: Tried that already - they gave me a canned response from their webpage that didn't really even apply to my question. It seems that the error only concerns perl at the moment. Maybe the perl from rational doesn't support something I need for vxworks? "Corey Ashford" wrote in message news:fLEq6.547967$U46.16277751@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com... > If you are having trouble with the product, you should contact > tech support at rational. That's what they're paid for :-) > > support@rational.com > > > - Corey > > > "Adam Cabler" wrote in message news:Wihq6.5201$887.122730@news3.atl... > > I am trying to build vxworks apps with Rational Rose RealTime - but with no > > results. I get errors everytime I try a build. I also tried the stuff on > > the website, but it didn't help much. Anyone had any luck with this?? > > > > thanks, > > adam > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Problem with Sockets Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:26:17 +0530 From: Navneeth Organization: Lucent Technologies, Columbus, Ohio Message-ID: <3AAC56F1.9B03E57B@bell-labs.com> Thanks a lot for the Solution on Open File Descriptors. It worked beautifully. I have another problem with sockets. My code has to run on two platforms, VxWorks and SUN Solaris with a client - server Architecture. With a TCP Connection, when I kill the application on Solaris, the application on VxWorks gets to know of it i.e. Connection Close handshake is completed. But when I do a td (Task Delete) on VxWorks, the Application on Solaris does not get any information. Is this because even though the task has been killed, the socket is still Open and Connected on VxWorks? Is this possible? MoreOver the port associated with the socket on VxWorks sometimes goes to FIN_WAIT2 state. This is an indication that the handshake has not ben completed. Please explain as to how a graceful closure of the connection can be made on both sides when I want to kill the task running on VxWorks. Does something else other than just td need to be done? Thanks in Advance Regards Navneeth --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: re: PCI network drivers in vxWorks Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:51:19 -0800 (PST) From: arpan pal Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <98ht32$shi$1@overload.lbl.gov> You can make a ISA driver supplied by windriver work by including a PCI detection routine in the corresponding sys.... file of the driver. These files are located in Tornado/target/config/pcPentium(or any other BSP u are using). For example the ne2000 driver has the name sysne2000end.c. The IRQ and the I/O base address detected should be used for initializing the mux driver instead of values from config.h inside this file. - - arpan - --- the vxWorks Users Group Exploder wrote: > Submitted-by vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Sun Mar 11 > 19:10:06 2001 > Submitted-by: "Rama Krishna Mandava" > > > > Dear vxWorks member, > > I want to know whether vxWorks supprots all PCI > ether net cards or not ?. > > if yes where can i get drivers software? > > regards. > > M.Rama Krishna > > > > > > ********** > > This is a user group mailing list for vxWorks > related topics > see http://www-vxw.lbl.gov/vxworks for posting > and other info > > ===== Arpan Pal Senior Engineer, Settop Group Macmet Interactive Technologies 69, Park Street Calcutta - 700016, India Ph.- 91-33-2463245/46 Fax.- 91-33-2806009 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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(http://www.windriver.com/csdocs/product/t2/technote/index.shtml) Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Problem with Sockets Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:29:30 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <984400454.346191@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AAC56F1.9B03E57B@bell-labs.com> Resources, no matter if files, memory or sockets are concerned, are not cleared up when a task is deleted on VxWorks 5.4. There is nothing like a process modell, so in fact the OS has no clue if some other task (maybe one that does not even yet exist) will try to use that resource (you can easily store it in some global variable for later use...) To overcome the problem, you should have the task terminate itself after being notified by some means. hth werner Navneeth wrote in message news:3AAC56F1.9B03E57B@bell-labs.com... > Thanks a lot for the Solution on Open File Descriptors. It worked > beautifully. > I have another problem with sockets. > My code has to run on two platforms, VxWorks and SUN Solaris with a > client - server Architecture. With a TCP Connection, when I kill the > application on Solaris, the application on VxWorks gets to know of it > i.e. Connection Close handshake is completed. But when I do a td (Task > Delete) on VxWorks, the Application on Solaris does not get any > information. Is this because even though the task has been killed, the > socket is still Open and Connected on VxWorks? Is this possible? > MoreOver the port associated with the socket on VxWorks sometimes goes > to FIN_WAIT2 state. This is an indication that the handshake has not ben > completed. Please explain as to how a graceful closure of the connection > can be made on both sides when I want to kill the task running on > VxWorks. Does something else other than just td need to be done? > > Thanks in Advance > Regards > Navneeth > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: reflective memory. Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:04:26 GMT From: kimp@avtecinc.com (Kim Putnam) Organization: Info Avenue Internet Services Message-ID: <3aacc754.1026093@192.168.1.214> We are using the vmic7715 board with the vmic5579 relfective memory. I am able to see the board and get is memory address. I get these via the pci header. I map the memory, and am able to directly read/write to it. I currently create a partition., alloc the necesary space for the data that we choose to locate on reflective memory. Here is my question. 1. I would like to have a fucntion/downloadable image,that delcares and initializes some global structures. I would like to locate these structs directly onto reflective memory.(ie not have to allocate memory). I had thought I could load these via loadModuleAt. Is this doable? I have the code to do this but do not see the vars in relfective mem. 2. Also the structs are not going where I would have expected, ie data or bss(common vars). 3. Not sure this buys me much, and probably should stick with the original idea of creating partions and allocing space. any hints would be apprecaited. pseudo code: - - get membase for reflective mem from pci header.(assume already has been mapped ). - - download initstruct() function via loadModuleAt(ptext,membase,pbss); STRUCTNAME mydata[val{ initstruct() { initialize mydata. } - - sp initstruct task. any help would be apprecaited. K - - --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: reflective memory. Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:50:27 -0800 From: Melvin Gardipee <"> Organization: Raytheon Company Message-ID: References: <3aacc754.1026093@192.168.1.214> Use a typedef to create your layout in reflective memory and a volatile pointer to access it. typedef struct { int var1; double var2; } MyStruct; void someFunction(void) { volatile MyStruct *p = (MyStruct *)ReflectiveMemoryAddr; p->var1 = 1; p->var2 = 2.0; } Verify your endian layout and structure packing are the same for all machines accessing the reflective memory. For VC++, my common header file used #pragma's to match the VxWorks packing: #ifdef WIN32 #pragma pack( push, MyInclude ) #pragma pack(8) #endif typedefs here... #ifdef WIN32 #pragma pack( pop, MyInclude) #endif I don't know about the VMIC boards, but SCRAMNet will transfer data slower then the VME bus can write data into it. You may need to monitor the write FIFO to prevent write FIFO interrupts or disable them and trust the VME holdoff. Regards, Melvin Gardipee Kim Putnam wrote: > > We are using the vmic7715 board with the vmic5579 relfective memory. > I am able to see the board and get is memory address. I get these via > the pci header. I map the memory, and am able to directly read/write > to it. > > I currently create a partition., alloc the necesary space for the > data that we choose to locate on reflective memory. > > Here is my question. > > 1. I would like to have a fucntion/downloadable image,that delcares > and initializes some global structures. I would like to locate these > structs directly onto reflective memory.(ie not have to allocate > memory). I had thought I could load these via loadModuleAt. > Is this doable? I have the code to do this but do not see the vars in > relfective mem. > > 2. Also the structs are not going where I would have expected, ie > data or bss(common vars). > > 3. Not sure this buys me much, and probably should stick with the > original idea of creating partions and allocing space. > any hints would be apprecaited. > > pseudo code: > - get membase for reflective mem from pci header.(assume already has > been mapped ). > - download initstruct() function via > loadModuleAt(ptext,membase,pbss); > > STRUCTNAME mydata[val{ > initstruct() > { > initialize mydata. > } > - sp initstruct task. > > any help would be apprecaited. > > K > > - --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Help with Target Server Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:04:37 -0500 From: "Chris Edgington" Message-ID: <9q6r6.195$Fq3.1821@newsfeed.slurp.net> We're trying to figure out a problem with getting the target server to connect to the target. We're using Tornado 2 with a MIPs target, using the NEC ddb5476 BSP. I've gone over the configuration of the target multiple times, tried both a WDB network and WDB serial connection mechanism, the results are the same. The target server just spits out "rpccore backend client Timed out". If I build a target shell into the target image and spit out the task information, here's what I get: NAME ENTRY TID PRI STATUS PC SP ERRNO DELAY - ---------- ------------ -------- --- ---------- -------- -------- ------- -- - --- tExcTask excTask 83ff96f0 0 PEND 800b02ac 83ff95d8 0 0 tLogTask logTask 83ff6b40 0 PEND 800b02ac 83ff6a30 0 0 tShell shell 83f86280 1 READY 80084b68 83f85dd0 0 0 tWdbTask 80078450 83f88540 3 PEND 8001cd04 83f88300 0 0 tNetTask netTask 83fb8a20 50 PEND 8001cd04 83fb8968 0 0 - -> tt tWdbTask 800784e0 wdbIsNowTasking+b0 : wdbRpcRcv (eeeeeeee, eeeeeeee, eeeeeeee, eeeeeeee) 80078938 wdbRpcRcv +34 : wdbUdpSockIfInit (eeeeeeee, eeeeeeee, eeeeeeee, eeeeeeee) 8007c97c wdbUdpSockIfInit+1cc: select (eeeeeeee, eeeeeeee, eeeeeeee, eeeeeeee) 80064968 select +2dc: semTake (83f885d0, ffffffff, 5dc, 0) value = 0 = 0x0 - -> Here's a dump of muxShow: - -> muxShow Device: dc Unit: 0 Description: dec21x40 Enhanced Network Driver Protocol: IP 4.4 ARP Type: 2054 Recv 0x80048980 Shutdown 0x80048c48 Protocol: IP 4.4 TCP/IP Type: 2048 Recv 0x80048980 Shutdown 0x80048b88 value = 0 = 0x0 - -> Note that when the target is up and running, I can ping its IP address from multiple machines on my network. If I put in the ping client and a shell, I can also ping from the target to other machines. Any advice is much appreciated ... I'm pulling my hair out! Thanks, - -Chris Edgington Intelligraphics, Inc. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks,comp.realtime Subject: Priority based polling scheme Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:01:54 -0500 From: viv Organization: Lucent Technologies, Columbus, Ohio Message-ID: <3AACF2F2.1C88F847@lucent.com> Does anyone have a reference to a algorithm for priority based polling scheme? I have a requirement to poll certain devices and send data to them at strict time intervals. Does any one have pointers to this kind of a problem? Thanks viv --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: reflective memory. Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:22:59 GMT From: kimp@avtecinc.com (Kim Putnam) Organization: Info Avenue Internet Services Message-ID: <3aacf7c5.7757281@192.168.1.214> References: <3aacc754.1026093@192.168.1.214> That took care of it. Thanks. I always have a tendency to make things harder than they have to be. K On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:50:27 -0800, Melvin Gardipee <"> wrote: >Use a typedef to create your layout in reflective memory and a >volatile pointer to access it. > >typedef struct { > int var1; > double var2; >} MyStruct; > >void someFunction(void) { > volatile MyStruct *p = (MyStruct *)ReflectiveMemoryAddr; > > p->var1 = 1; > p->var2 = 2.0; >} > >Verify your endian layout and structure packing are the same for all >machines accessing the reflective memory. For VC++, my common header >file used #pragma's to match the VxWorks packing: > >#ifdef WIN32 >#pragma pack( push, MyInclude ) >#pragma pack(8) >#endif > >typedefs here... > >#ifdef WIN32 >#pragma pack( pop, MyInclude) >#endif > >I don't know about the VMIC boards, but SCRAMNet will transfer data >slower then the VME bus can write data into it. You may need to monitor >the write FIFO to prevent write FIFO interrupts or disable them and >trust the VME holdoff. > >Regards, >Melvin Gardipee > > >Kim Putnam wrote: >> >> We are using the vmic7715 board with the vmic5579 relfective memory. >> I am able to see the board and get is memory address. I get these via >> the pci header. I map the memory, and am able to directly read/write >> to it. >> >> I currently create a partition., alloc the necesary space for the >> data that we choose to locate on reflective memory. >> >> Here is my question. >> >> 1. I would like to have a fucntion/downloadable image,that delcares >> and initializes some global structures. I would like to locate these >> structs directly onto reflective memory.(ie not have to allocate >> memory). I had thought I could load these via loadModuleAt. >> Is this doable? I have the code to do this but do not see the vars in >> relfective mem. >> >> 2. Also the structs are not going where I would have expected, ie >> data or bss(common vars). >> >> 3. Not sure this buys me much, and probably should stick with the >> original idea of creating partions and allocing space. >> any hints would be apprecaited. >> >> pseudo code: >> - get membase for reflective mem from pci header.(assume already has >> been mapped ). >> - download initstruct() function via >> loadModuleAt(ptext,membase,pbss); >> >> STRUCTNAME mydata[val{ >> initstruct() >> { >> initialize mydata. >> } >> - sp initstruct task. >> >> any help would be apprecaited. >> >> K >> >> - --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: VxWorks Clock Setting Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:42:13 -0500 From: "Mike Kordik" Message-ID: References: <9825ib$qj8$1@newsread.unitel.co.kr> There isn't a "built-in" facility to read the real-time clock on an X86 board. I found some sample source code on the WRS site to read the time out of the typical RTC used on these boards. It worked on my board. After reading the clock you need to put it into a format that can be read by the file system. You need to refer to the DosFs docs for the exact format and API. One of the API functions uses a callback to peridically read the time. This seems to be a good way to do it. I haven't done it yet. Unfortunately you have to do all this stuff manually. I can't remember the link on the WRS site for the sample source code. If you cannot find it, let me know and I will try to help you further. Good luck. - -Mike "Youngjin Roh" wrote in message news:9825ib$qj8$1@newsread.unitel.co.kr... > Hi VxWorkers! > > I've install VxWorks on PentiumIII Board. It's working very fine except one > thing. > The VxWorks clock says 1970:01:01 everytime I reboot it. > > But the BIOS says correct date and time. > > What do I need to install or include in order to sync clock device to > VxWorks OS ? > > Thank you in advance! > > Youngjin. > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Need help: Booting MVME2308 from external flash Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:06:19 -0500 From: Steve Aycock Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3ABBA5A4@MailAndNews.com> Sender: Steve Aycock Hi, We are using an MVME2308 with 4MB on board flash. Our application is 12MB. We have acquired an external VME flash card. Can anyone tell me how to build a vxworks bootrom image that will load our app from the external flash board. Also, what form does the image on the external flash card need to be in (i.e. bootable, vxworks-rom, etc.) ? I have searched all the wind river info and can't find a thing on this. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. Steve --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Programming Flash from VxWorks Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:47:37 -0500 From: Vasanta Tanna Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: <3AAD5209.E3754D8F@lucent.com> References: <97otdl$146$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> You are absolutely right, I programmed couple of such type of devices. Vasant. nitin kumar wrote: > > Hi, > I am trying to program the flash from my BSP and the specific > flash chip that we are using is Intel Strata Flash i28F128J3A. > However, I am still using the flash28WriteIntel1() routine > to write bytes into the flash. I don;t think I am > writing any thing. Do I need to use some other > routine for this chip ? > Thanks in advance > Nitin --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Retrieving ommand line parameters in VxSim Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:10:29 -0600 From: Eric Lesch Organization: Lockheed Martin Missiles and Firing Control - Dallas Message-ID: <3AAD5765.45D12AE@lmco.com> How can I retrieve command line parameters used to start VxSim? I would like to be able to supply a configuration file name on the command line and then open the file inside of VxSim. I did not see it in the Tornado 2 documentation, nor have I seen it discussed in this news group. It seems like it would be a useful enough for them to implement. Thanks in advance for any info. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Telnet Code for Windows? Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:23:12 -0800 From: Christopher A Leddy Organization: Raytheon Company Message-ID: <3AAD6870.70D2A0C@west.raytheon.com> Does anybody have (or point me to) some simple telnet source for Windows that I can use to attach to the telnet target shell? All I want to do is to be able to send text shell commands from my GUI based program (LabWindows or VC++) to the target shell and receive shell output as ascii text. I have seen a lot of source for a full telnet implementation, but that is a lot more than I need at the moment. I don't feel like re-inventing the wheel or spending two days stripping out support for that VT-52 terminal somebody use to support... I guess just being lazy, but if someone has it, it would save me a lot of work. Thanks, Chris --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Retrieving ommand line parameters in VxSim Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:40:53 GMT From: "Soo-Young Huh" Organization: Dacom Message-ID: References: <3AAD5765.45D12AE@lmco.com> As I know there isn't the way to use command line parameters. So I did a trick. If the condition is as following. Execution file name: ex Configuration file name: a.cfg You want to run " ex a.cfg" in command line int main() { int argc; int *argv[]; FILE *fp; argc = 2; argv[1] = "/tgtsvr/a.cfg"; fp = fopen(argv[1], "r"); ..... } The easiest way to use a file in host is TSFS(Target Server File System). In WindSh - -> devs drv name 0 /null 1 /tyCo/0 4 host: 8 /vio 9 /tgtsvr value = 0 = 0x0 You can refrer to 'Tornado User's Guide : 5.2.2 Target-Server Configuration Options' "Eric Lesch" wrote in message news:3AAD5765.45D12AE@lmco.com... > How can I retrieve command line parameters used to start VxSim? I would > like to be able to supply a configuration file name on the command line > and then open the file inside of VxSim. > > I did not see it in the Tornado 2 documentation, nor have I seen it > discussed in this news group. It seems like it would be a useful enough > for them to implement. > > Thanks in advance for any info. > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: link to archive of this newsgroup? Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 01:08:42 GMT From: "Soo-Young Huh" Organization: Dacom Message-ID: References: <985fo2$22u$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Thank you very much. It is very useful. "Bill Pringlemeir" wrote in message news:u3dcp8udw.fsf@yahoo.com... > >>>>> "WX" == Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman) writes: > > WX> Hi Is there an archive site of this newsgroup? > > "http://groups.google.com/" > > or > > "http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_ugroup=c omp.os.vxworks&as_uauthors=+" > > hth, > Bill > > -- > Useful vxWorks URLS, > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks,comp.realtime Subject: Re: Priority based polling scheme Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 01:07:29 GMT From: Herman Oosthuysen Message-ID: <3AAD7021.19E9B88B@AerospaceSoftware.com> References: <3AACF2F2.1C88F847@lucent.com> Sounds like a stack of task pointers where you always start at the top of the list and sometimes get to the bottom. viv wrote: > > Does anyone have a reference to a algorithm for priority based polling > scheme? I have a requirement to poll certain devices and send data to > them at strict time intervals. Does any one have pointers to this kind > of a problem? > > Thanks > viv --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: ppc860 BSP help.. Date: 13 Mar 2001 01:29:58 GMT From: fongd@ecs.ecs.csus.edu (Dick Fong) Organization: California State University, Sacramento Message-ID: <98jt6m$qjc$1@csusac.ecs.csus.edu> - -- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: ppc860 BSP help.. Date: 13 Mar 2001 01:42:36 GMT From: fongd@ecs.ecs.csus.edu (Dick Fong) Organization: California State University, Sacramento Message-ID: <98jtuc$qks$1@csusac.ecs.csus.edu> Hello, I'm trying to use SCC2 for my console on a ppc860T.. I noticed that there are 2 function declarations in the include file 'target/h/drv/sio/ppc860Sio.h' that are: ppc860SccInt() and ppc860SccDevInit() Since I'm trying to use SCC2 instead of SMCx, it would seem reasonable to use the above routines instead of ppc860DevInt() and ppc860DevInit() However, I can't seem to find ppc860SccInt() or ppc860SccDevInit() in any library. Does any one have a BSP that using SCC2 for console or know how I can call these functions? Thanks for any help you may have! - -- dick (fongd@gaia.ecs.csus.edu) --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Need help: Booting MVME2308 from external flash Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 02:23:46 GMT From: Bill Dennen Organization: Motorola Computer Group Message-ID: <3AAD801B.11BA7899@home.com> References: <3ABBA5A4@MailAndNews.com> Reply-To: wdennen@home.com Steve Aycock wrote: > > Hi, > > We are using an MVME2308 with 4MB on board flash. Our application is 12MB. > We have acquired an external VME flash card. > > Can anyone tell me how to build a vxworks bootrom image that will load our > app > from the external flash board. Also, what form does the image on the > external > flash card need to be in (i.e. bootable, vxworks-rom, etc.) ? > > I have searched all the wind river info and can't find a thing on this. > > Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. > > Steve You probably will have to do a two step process, boot off the board then have that ap xfer in your image and jump to it. The RESET vector of the 2308 points at FFF00000; whatever is there will be executed. The jumper one moves selects which flash bank (A @ FF000000 or B @ FF800000) is mapped onto FF000000. Regards - -- >@< Bill Dennen william.dennen@motorola.com Motorola Computer Group, TOPAZ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: NPT and END Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:37:34 -0500 From: "nraju" Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <98k15a$hs$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net> Hi: What is the difference between a NPT driver and an END driver. Is there any difference in the functionality or entry points ? Thanks! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: ppc860 BSP help.. Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:57:07 -0800 From: "Michael R. Kesti" Organization: MK Associates Message-ID: <3AAD8C83.602D913E@gv.net> References: <98jtuc$qks$1@csusac.ecs.csus.edu> Reply-To: mkesti@gv.net Dick Fong wrote: > I'm trying to use SCC2 for my console on a ppc860T.. > >I noticed that there are 2 function declarations in the >include file 'target/h/drv/sio/ppc860Sio.h' that are: > > ppc860SccInt() and ppc860SccDevInit() The serial drivers are typically implemented in the BSP directory (installDir/tornado/target/config/bspName) as ppc860SioSmc.c and ppc860SioScc.c. These files are typically added to the build by being #included in sysSerial.c, which is #included in sysLib.c. >Since I'm trying to use SCC2 instead of SMCx, it would >seem reasonable to use the above routines instead of > > ppc860DevInt() and ppc860DevInit() > >However, I can't seem to find ppc860SccInt() or >ppc860SccDevInit() in any library. Ensure that ppc860SioScc.c is in your BSP directory and #included in sysSerial.c If you have no ppc860SioScc.c on your system, get one from WRS. If the Scc's have not previously been included, you may have to make other changes to sysSerial.c, as well. Search that file for smc stuff and ensure that the coresponding "scc" stuff gets done. Finally, set CONSOLE_TTY in the BSP's config.h to chose the desired tyCo channel, as defined in sysSerial.c. Build the BSP, burn the boot ROM, test, debug. Repeat. - -- ======================================================================== Michael Kesti | "And like, one and one don't make | two, one and one make one." mkesti@gv.net | - The Who, Bargain --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: VxWorks Clock Setting Date: 13 Mar 2001 08:45:23 GMT From: borkhuis@agere.com (Johan Borkhuis) Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: References: <9825ib$qj8$1@newsread.unitel.co.kr> "Mike Kordik" wrote: >I can't remember the link on the WRS site for the sample source code. If >you cannot find it, let me know and I will try to help you further. There is also some sample code in my FAQ. (http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/pc-bsp.html#1.2) Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Telnet Code for Windows? Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:38:12 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <984476577.791806@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AAD6870.70D2A0C@west.raytheon.com> AFAIK the whole TELNET thing is nothing more than a TCP socket running a shell on. So you could just open that port, write the commands there and read the response. Be careful that you do not get blocked, or use separate threads for reading and writing. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think so... hth werner Christopher A Leddy wrote in message news:3AAD6870.70D2A0C@west.raytheon.com... > Does anybody have (or point me to) some simple telnet source for Windows > that I can use to attach to > the telnet target shell? All I want to do is to be able to send text > shell commands from my GUI based program (LabWindows or VC++) to the > target shell and receive shell output as ascii text. > > I have seen a lot of source for a full telnet implementation, but that > is a lot more than I need at the moment. I don't feel like re-inventing > the wheel or spending two days stripping out support for that VT-52 > terminal somebody use to support... > > > I guess just being lazy, but if someone has it, it would save me a lot > of work. > > > > Thanks, > > > Chris --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: NPT Driver Templates Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:57:58 -0500 From: "nraju" Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <98l5jj$8u5$1@slb6.atl.mindspring.net> References: <98dng2$1lh$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi, You need to register yourself in windriver website and get a windsurf login. Then login and goto Networking Products and NPT Users Guide gives the template and API's etc. Regards - -nraju "James Lemmond" wrote in message news:98dng2$1lh$1@overload.lbl.gov... > Hello, > > Does anyone know where I can get template source code > to develop an NPT driver for VxWorks? > > Thanks, --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: END and BSD4.3 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:02:25 -0500 From: "nraju" Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <98l5jk$8u5$2@slb6.atl.mindspring.net> References: <3AC08848@MailAndNews.com> Based on what I read regarding END drivers, one need to convert the BSD driver to a NPT/END. This is mentioned in Network Protocol Toolkit Users guide. You can confirm this/ think BSD Ioctl's entry points need to be split into multiple END entry points and things like that ... "suman saraf" wrote in message news:3AC08848@MailAndNews.com... > Hi All, > > Can a BSD4.3 driver co-exist with a END driver ? We have two NIC cards, one > has a BSD4.3 driver and the other has an END driver. We are having some > weird > problems, so I wanted to confirm on this! > > Thanks for the help. > > Suman > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: intDisable fail Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:29:38 +0800 From: "ccy" Organization: Ye 'Ol Disorganized NNTPCache groupie Message-ID: <984491318.456975@news.pagic.net> Hi, I am using QED MIPS R5000, and I meet a problem about interrupt disable. I use intDisable(INT_LVL_IORQ1..) or intlock() in a downloadable module, and find the interrupt still happen after I issue disable interrupt command. does the BSP got some problem? or configuration problem? anyone got the experience and solution? Thanks in advance, Jo --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Updating IP Routing Table Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:45:26 +0530 From: "Ananthkrishnan" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <002901c0abbf$abdf1140$1706000a@future.futsoft.com> Hi all, What is the API used to add/delete/modify routes in the VxWorks IP Routing table? Does VxWorks support Routing Sockets? Regards, Ananth. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: what's objLib? Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:23:00 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <98ldn6$s7r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> When I show task information. I got ERRNO of 3d0001 and 3d0002. Then I found module #3d means objLib. But I can't find that lib in ref_manual of vxWorks. What's that lib? Thanks --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Datum bc635PMC time card Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:39:06 -0500 From: Michael Reed Message-ID: <3AAE3F1A.1F459531@ll.mit.edu> Hello, Has anyone had either success or failure with Datum's bc635pmc card? We've ported the AP Labs VxWorks driver to pSOS, and the device seems to have more unknown states that the former Soviet Republics! Thanks, Mike --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: RE: END and BSD4.3 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:20:36 -0500 From: suman saraf Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3AB7DF7F@MailAndNews.com> Sender: suman saraf >===== Original Message From "nraju" ===== >Based on what I read regarding END drivers, one need to convert the >BSD driver to a NPT/END. This is mentioned in Network Protocol Toolkit >Users guide. >You can confirm this/ > think BSD Ioctl's entry points need to be split into multiple >END entry points and things like that ... Hi, I know how to convert a BSD driver into END and NPT. Most of it can be handled by reorganising the code, but the memory management part is what is tricky! will need to be rewritten to use the netBufLib functions. What I wanted to know is if co-existance of BSD4.3 and END drivers is possible? I don't think it is, but I need inputs from some experienced people! Thanks! - ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE web-based e-mail and newsgroup access at: http://MailAndNews.com Create a new mailbox, or access your existing IMAP4 or POP3 mailbox from anywhere with just a web browser. - ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Blocking terminal i/o Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:29:39 GMT From: m.dx@wanadoo.nl (Marc Dierikx) Organization: EuroNet Internet Message-ID: <3aae6672.637136@news.euronet.nl> How do I make a read() call on a serial device blocking in Tornado 1.01? I don't see an ioctl other than the one to set raw mode. Fcntl() is not documented at all. mdi --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: vxsys.com Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:27:38 -0500 From: Martin Cooke Organization: Kiva Networking Message-ID: Hiya -- Could I get someone so email me vxsys.com. I need to sys a drive and my laptop with my tools has taken a walk. many thanks, Martin mcooke@kiva.net --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what's objLib? Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:19:40 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <984518665.536737@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <98ldn6$s7r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> lookup $(WIND_BASE)/target/h/objLib.h there you'll find #define S_objLib_OBJ_ID_ERROR (M_objLib | 1) #define S_objLib_OBJ_UNAVAILABLE (M_objLib | 2) So 0x3d0001 means you pass an invalid system object handle to VxWorks at some place. This can be a semaphore, message queue, and other things. I would consider this a problem that should be solved. 0x3d0002, AFAIK, just means that a resource could not be aquired, when you specified NO_WAIT as a timeout. If that task uses such thing (or some functions used by your software do so) this does not mean an error. hth werner Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman) wrote in message news:98ldn6$s7r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com... > When I show task information. I got ERRNO of 3d0001 and 3d0002. Then I found > module #3d means objLib. But I can't find that lib in ref_manual of vxWorks. > > What's that lib? > > Thanks > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Blocking terminal i/o Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:21:54 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <984518799.327886@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3aae6672.637136@news.euronet.nl> Isn't this the default setting? Which platform and BSP and serial controller are you using? regards werner Marc Dierikx wrote in message news:3aae6672.637136@news.euronet.nl... > How do I make a read() call on a serial device blocking in Tornado > 1.01? I don't see an ioctl other than the one to set raw mode. Fcntl() > is not documented at all. > > mdi --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: issue about ccppc Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:39:06 -0500 From: "Wang, Hui [WDLN2:2071:EXCH]" Organization: Nortel Networks Message-ID: <3AAE937A.FB688A3@americasm01.nt.com> I use SGI STL and embeded template in my program the program looks like this Content of Ctrl.h: #include struct l1{ int a; int b; }; struct l2{ int a; int b; int c; slist f; slist g; slist h; }; struct l3{ int c; slist d; l3(){}; }; Content of Ctrl.cc #include bool setup() { slist obj1, obj2, obj3; return true; } if I compile it with -O1 (turn on optimizing) and -frepo it takes the compiler a lot of time and memory to compile the program. if I compile it with -fno-inline or -fno-default-inline(turn off inline emitting) then it compiles normally. I want to knows why and how to compile it faster and without turn inline off? Thanks a lot! Hui --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: loading application module using startup script Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:26:02 +0000 (UTC) From: bpatel@princetonoptical.com (Bhavesh Patel) Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: <3AAE9EAD.C81C741F@princetonoptical.com> Hi, I am having a problem to which I do not seem to find the answer. Let me explain in detail everything. Enviroment - ------------ Tornado2.0, vxWorks5.4, hostOS - vxWorks, EST8260 board. Scenario - ---------- I have build a bootable vxworks image with - "INCLUDE_STANDALONE_SYM_TBL" "INCLUDE_LOADER" "INCLUDE_STARTUP_SCRIPT" "INCLUDE_TELNET" and host of other includes. I mentioned these in particular since I feel the problem has something to do with loading the module dynamically. Now when the system boots it loads the object module using "ld" from the startup script. Problem - ---------- I telnet to the target and then I start executing my program "progStart" , after it finishes its intended function the target shell seems to go into hang (it does not take any command , eg, "i", "tt", "ti", "ls"... etc). At the same time I can run all these commands from the windShell. The only way to make target shell work is to reboot the system. To investigate this problem further, I DO NOT use the startup script,BUT instead use Tornado2. to download the object module. Now when I telnet into the target and run "progStart" it complains "undefined symbol: progStart". So, I run "progStart" from the windShell.Surprise! the program not only performs its intended function but I can also execute commands ("i", "tt","ti"..etc) from the telnet window. THE QUESTION is why loading object module using startup script has such weird behavior as opposed to downloading the object module using Tornado? Any help is appreciated. bhavesh - -- Posted from 64-56-57-146.comcasttel.net [64.56.57.146] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Help: Serial I/O PPC850, VxWorks 5.4, Tornado II Date: 13 Mar 2001 22:52:18 GMT From: yucao@alumnae.caltech.edu (Yu Cao) Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Keywords: OPT_ECHO, CR, ^M Message-ID: <98m8b2$955@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <9897nu$se9@gap.cco.caltech.edu> I have the following finding: CR is echoed as "^M" if both OPT_ECHO and OPT_LINE are turned on. If only OPT_ECHO is on, then CR is echoed correctly. Unfortunately that did not solve my problem, as I need to make CTRL-H work as backspace and CTRL-U as kill-line, and this behavior is available from the driver only if OPT_LINE is on. So I ended up reading the input using fgetc() and handle the echo, backspace, and kill-line myself. This is one of those times that I seriously think about switching to embedded LINUX or Nucleus where I'll have the source to everything. - --Yu yucao@alumnae.caltech.edu (Yu Cao) writes: >Hi all. I'm having a problem with the VxWorks serial driver. >First of all the OPT_CRMOD option does not work as advertised (I found >a message dated 1993 which reported the same problem with VxWorks 5.1). >Instead of translating an output LF into CR-LF as claimed in the manual, >it outputs LF-CR. >But that's okay ... I just had to add another layer of code that does the >translation properly and turn off OPT_CRMOD. >This has the side effect that input CR's are not translated into LF's. >That's also okay, I can handle it. >But the problem is, now the CR's are echoed (I have OPT_ECHO on) as >"^M", yes, "^" and "M", two characters, as I found out on Hyperterm. >Other CR characters that I print out (printf("\r\n")) show up correctly. >I am a little reluctant to implement echo in my application (which I >know can be done by looking at the input character by character), >although it looks like I'll probably end up having to do that. >Any help would be highly appreciated. This issue is holding up a customer >sign-off for us. >--Yu >P.S. If you would be so kind as to include a mail cc'ed to this account >that would be very nice. That's probably going to be faster than my >news feed. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: variable argument list (stdarg.h) problems Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:07:55 -0500 From: Paul Van Bellinghen Organization: Lockheed Martin Message-ID: <3AAEA84B.5B0A1EC0@lmco.com> Reply-To: paul.vanbellinghen@lmco.com Has anyone had problems using a variable argument list? We are using VxWorks 5.4 / Tornado 2.0 for PPC 7400 (G4 actually). I am having trouble using the stdarg functions. Depending upon things that are defined in a subroutine that uses a variable argument list, the argument list is not extracted properly. for example, with the subroutine below: void Enumeration(int num, int a...) { int k,arg; va_list argptr; va_start(argptr, a); std::cout << a << std::endl; for (k=0; k::iterator ObIt; va_end(argptr); } Enumeration(5,1,2,3,4,5); Without the typedef defined, the argument list printed is 1,2,3,4,5. However, with the typedef defined, what is printed is 1, 2, 83886083, 267557320, 267557248. The only thing I see different between the two in the debugger is that the argument list (*argptr) when it works is: When it doesn't work, it is : The only difference is that the reg_save_area is 15 (017) for the good case and 0 (000) for the bad case. I already tried incorporating patch spr27597 but it did not fix the problem. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: intDisable fail Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 03:15:04 GMT From: Pierre Frigon Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <3AAEE13F.9796EF2D@yahoo.com> References: <984491318.456975@news.pagic.net> It would help to know what your code does until interrupts are re-enabled ccy wrote: > Hi, > I am using QED MIPS R5000, and I meet a problem about interrupt disable. > I use intDisable(INT_LVL_IORQ1..) or intlock() in a downloadable module, > and find the interrupt still happen after I issue disable interrupt command. > > does the BSP got some problem? or configuration problem? > anyone got the experience and solution? > > Thanks in advance, > > Jo --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Updating IP Routing Table Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:55:05 -0800 From: "David E. Chavez" Message-ID: <3aaf07ba$0$27416$e2e8da3@nntp.cts.com> References: <002901c0abbf$abdf1140$1706000a@future.futsoft.com> man routeLib "Ananthkrishnan" wrote in message news:002901c0abbf$abdf1140$1706000a@future.futsoft.com... > Hi all, > What is the API used to add/delete/modify routes in the VxWorks IP Routing > table? > Does VxWorks support Routing Sockets? > Regards, > Ananth. > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: booting Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 23:00:39 -0800 (PST) From: ashwani dwivedi Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <98n5r1$2eq$1@overload.lbl.gov> hi , I m trying to load my romresident vxWorks image( with application) into the flash rom , but i m stucked . can u know the exact procedure for loading of rom resident vxWorks Image into flash rom for Powerpc . My default booting is done by the USER_FLASH2 , there is ther user flashes also i want to load this new image into the USER_FLASH3 and make it as a booting device , What is the procedure. bye Ashwani ===== ASHWANI DWIVEDI Software Specialist Digital Equipment (INDIA) Ltd PRESENTLY : NEC ,Laser and mechotronics divison ,Sagamihara TOKYO - JAPAN E-MAIL :achan@lam.sgm.nec.co.jp . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: "iosDevShow" and "devs" Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:06:48 +0800 From: "Ren Hantao" Organization: Lucent Technologies, Columbus, Ohio Message-ID: <98n8kg$ed0@nntpa.cb.lucent.com> Are there some differences between the commands "iosDevShow" and "devs"? (I can't see any) Hans --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: loading application module using startup script Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:26:44 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <984562290.598621@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AAE9EAD.C81C741F@princetonoptical.com> First, the Tornado Shell uses a host resident symbol table, whereas the telnet session naturally uses a target resident symbol table. There is an option to synchronize the two, but I don't know exactly how it is named... Second, the shell does not accept further function calls as long as the current command is not finished. The shell commands in telnet i, tt, ti and friends are simply functions as well. The most likely reason for the shell not responding anymore is that your routine progStart does not return. Try spawning the routine with sp progStart instead (this provides 10k stack by default, if this does not suffice use the more elaborated taskSpawn) BTW, WindShell (the one in tornado) and the target resident shell are completely independent. The fact that one is executing a command does not prevent the other from being available. This is why you can invoke the commands from the other shell after invoking your routine. You probably cannot use i, tt and friends from WindShell after you invoke progStart (without spawning it) hth werner Bhavesh Patel wrote in message news:3AAE9EAD.C81C741F@princetonoptical.com... > Hi, > > I am having a problem to which I do not seem to find the answer. Let me > explain in detail everything. > Enviroment > ------------ > Tornado2.0, vxWorks5.4, hostOS - vxWorks, EST8260 board. > > Scenario > ---------- > I have build a bootable vxworks image with - > "INCLUDE_STANDALONE_SYM_TBL" > "INCLUDE_LOADER" > "INCLUDE_STARTUP_SCRIPT" > "INCLUDE_TELNET" > and host of other includes. I mentioned these in particular since I feel > the problem has something to do with loading the module dynamically. > > Now when the system boots it loads the object module using "ld" from the > startup script. > Problem > ---------- > I telnet to the target and then I start executing my program "progStart" > , after it finishes its intended function the target shell seems to go > into hang (it does not take any command , eg, "i", "tt", "ti", "ls"... > etc). At the same time I can run all these commands from the windShell. > The only way to make target shell work is to reboot the system. > > To investigate this problem further, I DO NOT use the startup script,BUT > instead use Tornado2. to download the object module. Now when I telnet > into the target and run "progStart" it complains "undefined symbol: > progStart". So, I run "progStart" from the windShell.Surprise! the > program not only performs its intended function but I can also execute > commands ("i", "tt","ti"..etc) from the telnet window. > THE QUESTION is why loading object module using startup script has such > weird behavior as opposed to downloading the object module using > Tornado? > > Any help is appreciated. > > bhavesh > > > -- > Posted from 64-56-57-146.comcasttel.net [64.56.57.146] > via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: "iosDevShow" and "devs" Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:32:56 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <984562663.355783@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <98n8kg$ed0@nntpa.cb.lucent.com> $(WIND_BASE)/target/src/usr/usrLib.c, line 2584 ... void devs (void) { iosDevShow (); } ... so iosDevShow is more efficient and requires less stack but the difference will not be large (one function call) :-) regards werner Ren Hantao wrote in message news:98n8kg$ed0@nntpa.cb.lucent.com... > Are there some differences between the commands "iosDevShow" and "devs"? > (I can't see any) > > Hans > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: TFFS on PPMC750 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 16:03:14 +0530 From: "Venkatesh JS" Organization: Motorola Message-ID: <98nglj$3ot$1@newshost.mot.com> hi. Has any one tried including TFFS component on PPMC750 board ? I have MTD and socket layer code for AMD series NOR flash devices which holds good for flash device on PPMC750 card(Am29DL323C). This MTD uses Common Flash Interface(CFI) to program the flash. We can get device and manufacturer details from flash device by sending some command sequences on some specified address(Given in Command defination tables in AMD product literature). But my code fails to get this detail. After writing command sequences , when i try to read the result i am not able to get any valid information. My MTD code uses this logic to write command sequence: WriteCmdSequence(FLASH_BASE_ADRS,0x00aa00aa, 0x555) { adrs = FLASH_BASE_ADRS + 8 * (0x555); *adrs = 0x00aa00aa; } Here 0x00aa00aa is command sequence defined by AMD and 0x555 is address specified by AMD product guide. I have given flash base address as 0xfff00000. Does any one know how solve this problem ? After a recent suggestion, i tried writing into PPMC750 mapped addresses for flash address.(Given in PPMC750 programmers manual). that is if flash address is 0x000555, then i wrote at 0xff000d55 etc. This also did not work. Any ideas on this ? regds, venkat --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Help: Serial I/O PPC850, VxWorks 5.4, Tornado II Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 13:04:06 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <9897nu$se9@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <98m8b2$955@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Yu Cao wrote in message <98m8b2$955@gap.cco.caltech.edu>... >Unfortunately that did not solve my problem, as I need to make CTRL-H >work as backspace and CTRL-U as kill-line, and this behavior is >available from the driver only if OPT_LINE is on. > >So I ended up reading the input using fgetc() and handle the echo, >backspace, and kill-line myself. Have you looked at the documentation for ledLib ? It might be suitable to your purposes. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: intDisable fail Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:15:06 +0800 From: "ccy" Organization: SEEDNet News Service Message-ID: <98nqti$mnn$1@news.seed.net.tw> References: <984491318.456975@news.pagic.net> <3AAEE13F.9796EF2D@yahoo.com> Hi, I am using libR4650gnuvx.a , my downloadable program flow looks like: 1. register ISR routine via intConnect() 2. reset that peripheral via a I/O pin. (after a while, the peripheral will generate a interrupt and jump into ISR) 3. do some jobs... I can't write/config peripheral before it reset, and it seems critical to do 1st time config in ISR. so I need to disable int first(and anyway, I think intDisable should work because intConnect is work). I also try intDisable() in bootROM(BSP), interrupt still happen. any suggestion? thanks in advance Jo > It would help to know what your code does until interrupts are re-enabled > > ccy wrote: > > > Hi, > > I am using QED MIPS R5000, and I meet a problem about interrupt disable. > > I use intDisable(INT_LVL_IORQ1..) or intlock() in a downloadable module, > > and find the interrupt still happen after I issue disable interrupt command. > > > > does the BSP got some problem? or configuration problem? > > anyone got the experience and solution? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Jo > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: TFFS on PPMC750 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:31:54 GMT From: "Mark Aronson" Organization: RoadRunner - TampaBay Message-ID: References: <98nglj$3ot$1@newshost.mot.com> Reply-To: "Mark Aronson" Venkat, I am using the PPMC750 card and I am working on a similiar situation where I am trying to flash via a tool called PowerTap. I found that there are actually two proms on the 750 card and the Hawk bridge chip accesses them as addresses 0,1,2,3 on chip 1, 4,5,6,7 on chip 2, 8,9,a,b on chip 1, c,d,e,f on chip2 and so forth for eeprom memory. Try using address 1552 for aaa and aa9 for address 555. That will access chip 1. Add 4 to chip 1 addresses for chip 2. Plus, you have to set a bit in one of the registers for the Hawk to enable writes at address fef80050 lsb needs to be 1. Here is a script I wrote for PowerTap to access the mfg and part id for you to use as a reference. size write 4 setmem /l 0xfef80050=0xff000007 size write 1 size read 1 setmem /b 0xfff00000=0xf0 setmem /b 0xfff01552=0xaa setmem /b 0xfff00aa9=0x55 setmem /b 0xfff01552=0x90 du /b 0xfff00000..+4 setmem /b 0xfff00000=0xf0 size write 8 HTH, Mark "Venkatesh JS" wrote in message news:98nglj$3ot$1@newshost.mot.com... > hi. > > Has any one tried including TFFS component on PPMC750 board ? I have MTD and > socket layer code for AMD series NOR flash devices which holds good for > flash device on PPMC750 card(Am29DL323C). This MTD uses Common Flash > Interface(CFI) to program the flash. We can get device and manufacturer > details from flash device by sending some command sequences on some > specified address(Given in Command defination tables in AMD product > literature). But my code fails to get this detail. After writing command > sequences , when i try to read the result i am not able to get any valid > information. > > My MTD code uses this logic to write command sequence: > > WriteCmdSequence(FLASH_BASE_ADRS,0x00aa00aa, 0x555) > { > adrs = FLASH_BASE_ADRS + 8 * (0x555); > > *adrs = 0x00aa00aa; > } > > Here 0x00aa00aa is command sequence defined by AMD and 0x555 is address > specified by AMD product guide. > > I have given flash base address as 0xfff00000. > > Does any one know how solve this problem ? > > After a recent suggestion, i tried writing into PPMC750 mapped addresses for > flash address.(Given in PPMC750 programmers manual). that is if flash > address is 0x000555, then i wrote at 0xff000d55 etc. This also did not work. > > Any ideas on this ? > > > regds, > venkat > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: intDisable fail Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 06:48:39 -0800 From: Melvin Gardipee <"> Organization: Raytheon Company Message-ID: References: <984491318.456975@news.pagic.net> <3AAEE13F.9796EF2D@yahoo.com> <98nqti$mnn$1@news.seed.net.tw> Your item 3 lists do some jobs. You do restrict these jobs to the allowed libraries listed within the VxWorks Programmers Guide (5.4 Edition 1) in chapter 2 Basic OS in section 2.5.3 Special Limitations of ISR's? If not, can you use a semGive() to a high priority task that will do these jobs for you? Regards Mel ccy wrote: > > Hi, > I am using libR4650gnuvx.a , my downloadable program flow looks like: > 1. register ISR routine via intConnect() > 2. reset that peripheral via a I/O pin. > (after a while, the peripheral will generate a interrupt and jump into > ISR) > 3. do some jobs... > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what's objLib? Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:16:06 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <98o8n9$l7k$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <98ldn6$s7r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <984518665.536737@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> Thanks Werner. Your answer is more than I expected :) Thanks a lot. Werner Schiendl wrote in message news:984518665.536737@newsmaster-04.atnet.at... > lookup $(WIND_BASE)/target/h/objLib.h > > there you'll find > > #define S_objLib_OBJ_ID_ERROR (M_objLib | 1) > #define S_objLib_OBJ_UNAVAILABLE (M_objLib | 2) > > So 0x3d0001 means you pass an invalid system object handle to VxWorks at > some place. This can be a semaphore, message queue, and other things. I > would consider this a problem that should be solved. > > 0x3d0002, AFAIK, just means that a resource could not be aquired, when you > specified NO_WAIT as a timeout. If that task uses such thing (or some > functions used by your software do so) this does not mean an error. > > hth > werner > > > Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman) wrote in message > news:98ldn6$s7r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com... > > When I show task information. I got ERRNO of 3d0001 and 3d0002. Then I > found > > module #3d means objLib. But I can't find that lib in ref_manual of > vxWorks. > > > > What's that lib? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: vxworks boot ROM_COPY Date: 14 Mar 2001 13:59:38 -0500 From: vanbaren@falcon.si.com (vanbaren_gerald) Organization: Smiths Industries Message-ID: <3aafbf9a$1@news.si.com> References: <98ngl4$d1e$1@news.netmar.com> anthony.rouaux@oreka.com writes: >Hi, >i d like to create a boot rom wich is a ROM_COPY boot and wich is able to copy >different versions of my soft to RAM at the beginning. >For this thing, i want to create a 2 boot parts wich are my softwares that >must be copied in ram and and other one which is placed at the boot adress to >link copy the software i want to the ram. >Is it easy to do this whith Tornado. How can i link to different boot file in >flash? >Thanks a lot >Anthony What I did was to make a BootROM that was a ROM_COPY (ROM_Compress would also work, ROM_Resident would require a different but similar mechanism). I made a copy of romStart.c in my project directory and changed my Tornado project to use that version rather than the default romStart.c version (which comes from the Tornado install subdirectory). You have to add the customized romStart.c file and do "properties" and mimic the configuration under the "Build" tab: check [x] build for ROM, uncheck [ ] use standard rules, and insert the custom rule: $(CC) $(OPTION_OBJECT_ONLY) $(CFLAGS) $(ROM_FLAGS_EXTRA) $< -o $@ After doing that, delete the standard Tornado romStart.c file. You can now customize the romStart.c file. In particular, in each instance of romStart() (there are several versions using #ifdef to select the proper one), I inserted a call to a new function startCP(), which I added to romStart.c. In my startCP() function, I do my startup logic (including validating my Control Program): if it is invalid or other criteria fail, I simply return and the remainder of romStart() runs, starting my BootROM mainline, which allows loading a new CP. If the Control Program is valid and the other logic says to run the CP, I copy it from ROM into RAM and run it instead of the BootROM mainline. To make this work properly you need: 1) A way to validate your Control Program. 2) A way of knowing where your CP starts in ROM, where it should be loaded in RAM, and where to jump to (start of execution). The default location to jump to is the copy destination address. In a nutshell, I simply copied my CP code into the RAM execution space rather than copying the normal application code (i.e. my BootROM mainline) into RAM. After that, everything works normally. To make the CP, I build it as a standalone "vxWorks" target. This eliminates the romStart() and copy function, which I've provided by my hacked BootROM. I also changed my CP's ROM_BASE_ADR (Macros tab) to load it into my CP storage area in ROM. Tornado then builds and links the CP to load into ROM_BASE_ADR but run starting at RAM_LOW_ADR which is where I copy it to in my hacked romStart(). gvb - -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jerry Van Baren / vanbaren_gerald@si.com / Grand Rapids Mi / 616-241-7973 | | My employer is a company. Companies are artifacts of a legal system. | |________________Artifacts are incapable of having opinions.________________| --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: SCSI problem Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:50:08 +0600 From: "Julia Kogan" Organization: Internet Gold, ISRAEL Message-ID: <98olgh$t9f$1@news3.inter.net.il> Hi, I have a question concerning to SCSI controller 53c875 and VxWorks SCSI Driver ncr810. I think somebody has already had the problem and got rid of it. I call ncr810CtrlCreate, intConnect, intEnable, ncr810CtrlInit and ncr810SetHwRegister in sysScsiInit () and don't have any problem with it, all looks fine. When I'm trying to call function scsiPhysDevCreate in sysScsiConfig, the processor (M860) hangs, and it looks like there is no interrupts from the controller. I know they should be but I see with a scope that there is no interrupts. Maybe somebody knows what happens? Should I configure memory space in PCI configuration of my SCSI controller and if yes what for? And how does the exchange between SCSI and processor look like? Thanks in advance. Julia Kogan, Final Frontier Technologies --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: NT hosted C++ Cross Compilers compatible with VxWorks/PPC Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:42:39 GMT From: Darrell Bartz Organization: The Boeing Company Message-ID: <3AAFD7BF.627C657A@boeing.com> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (Boeing NNTP News Access) We are trying to identify NT hosted C++ Cross Compilers that are compatible with VxWorks for a Power PC target. We have identified Green Hills AdaMulti and Diab C++ as potential candidates. Are there any other candidates out there? - -- Thanks, Darrell Bartz The Boeing Company 314-234-5915 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: 2604, Universe II and Sysreset Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:57:32 -0500 From: mmenge@mtspt.com Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <98on21$7c8$1@overload.lbl.gov> I'm using a 2604 and trying to assert SYSRESET to the VME bus. My reset button works as it resets the cards on the VME bus but I can't reset them programmatically through the Universe II chip. There is a register called MISC_CTL that has a bit called SW_SYSRST. Here is the code I tried in universe.c: ResetVMEBus() { UNIV_OUT_LONG(UNIVERSE_MISC_CTL, MISC_CTL_SW_SRST | MISC_CTL_SYSCON | MISC_CTL_VBTO_256USEC | MISC_CTL_VARB_RROBIN | MISC_CTL_VARBTO_256USEC | MISC_CTL_RESCIND); } Anybody tried this on the 2604? Does this work for anyone else? I really need this to work, so any help is REALLY appreciated. Thanks Mark tornado, vxWorks --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Unitialized interrupt with MMU enabled on 8260 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:24:54 -0500 From: "Jeffrey A Angielski" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <98ou30$b8j$1@overload.lbl.gov> I am running vxWorks on a MPC8260 and I am seeing "Unitialized interrupt" messages whenever I enable the MMU and generate interrupts. When I disable the MMU, I do not see these messages. It appears that the interrupt vector that is generating this message is the interrupt vector 0, the Error Vector. I have reduced my ISR to just clearing the SIPNR register and I still see the error vector. 1) Why do I get the error vector everytime my ISR goes off? (I installed a dummy ISR and the count for this ISR was the same as my ISR) 2) Why is there a difference between MMU and non-MMU behavior? I have already looked at the vxWorks m8260IntrDeMux() ISR that is connected to exception 500 (external interrupt) and I did not see anything wrong with it. 3) Has anybody else modified the behavior of this ISR? - ------------------------------------------------------ Jeff Angielski The PTR Group, Inc. Embedded, Real-time Solutions and Services mailto:jeff@theptrgroup.com http://www.theptrgroup.com V:703.405.6896 - ------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: RE: 2604, Universe II and Sysreset Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:30:04 -0500 From: "Baron, Ken (N-BAE Systems)" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <98ou31$b8k$1@overload.lbl.gov> Mark, I think the VME Universe may need to be set as system controller. > I'm using a 2604 and trying to assert SYSRESET to the VME bus. My reset > button works as it resets the cards on the VME bus but I can't reset them > programmatically through the Universe II chip. There is a register called > MISC_CTL that has a bit called SW_SYSRST. > > Here is the code I tried in universe.c: > ResetVMEBus() > { > UNIV_OUT_LONG(UNIVERSE_MISC_CTL, MISC_CTL_SW_SRST > | MISC_CTL_SYSCON > | MISC_CTL_VBTO_256USEC > | MISC_CTL_VARB_RROBIN > | MISC_CTL_VARBTO_256USEC > | MISC_CTL_RESCIND); > } > Anybody tried this on the 2604? Does this work for anyone else? I really > need this to work, so any help is REALLY appreciated. > > Thanks > Mark > tornado, vxWorks > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Network stack 128-byte mbuf pool does not recover Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:01:44 -0800 From: Tam Nguyen Organization: SPAWAR Systems Center, San Diego, CA 92147 Message-ID: <3AAFF858.9A7B5FDD@spawar.navy.mil> I have sent the following message to WindRiver about 10 days ago asking some questions concerning a network communication problem but have not received any feedback yet. Because of the urgency of the project, I would like to post this message in this group so that somebody who has the knowledge on the subject may give me a solution or suggestions that may help me solve the problem. Thanks Tam *************************************************** Environment: VxWorks 5.4 PowerPC Green Hill Adamulti Support Group, Summary: 128-byte buffer number was reduced by about 70 every time we disconnected the Ethernet cable from one of our network interfaces and the lost buffers were not recovered after we reconnected the cable. After disconnecting and connecting the same cable several times, no free 128-byte buffers is left causing the communication from another network interface to stop. The stopped communication on the second interface was not able to start again after the cable from the first interface had been reconnected. The whole system had to be reset in order for the second network card to work again. Description: We were testing the error recovering capability of our network and found out that by disconnecting a cable connecting to a Ethernet device on the Power PC several times has caused a FDDI network card to stop communication. The communication was not able to recover after we had reconnected the Ethernet cable again. We had used mbufShow( ) and endPoolShow( ) functions to look at the network buffers of our system at the two interfaces before and after the problem. The endPoolShow for both interface indicated that both devices had plenty of free buffer before and after the problem. However, mbufShow( ) showed that the free 128-byte buffer number decreased (about 70) every time the Ethernet cable was disconnected while free buffer number for other sizes (64, 256, 512,..) remained about the same. When the free 128-byte buffer number reduced to 0, the another interface card, FDDI, stopped working. Please notice that the first Ethernet connection used the Ethernet device on the PowerPC that had been used for download vxWorks and program while second card was an external VME FFDI card. We would like to use the Ethernet device on the PPC card on the production phase. What are the reasons why the number of free buffers of one particular size (128-byte) was reduced while the ones with other sizes was not? Why has the action on one network card caused another card to fail? I thought that it is network stack size. However, after I have increased the mbuf numbers for both system and data pool, it took more times of cable disconnection but the communication on the FDDI card finally failed. How do we make changes to fixed the problem? If you have any questions, please let me know. Some of related statistics are listed below: ********************************************** Statistics for Ethernet card showed OK before and after the FDDI card stopped working. - -> endPoolShow (dc "dc",0) type number - --------- ------ FREE : 122 DATA : 6 HEADER : 0 SOCKET : 0 PCB : 0 RTABLE : 0 HTABLE : 0 ATABLE : 0 SONAME : 0 ZOMBIE : 0 SOOPTS : 0 FTABLE : 0 RIGHTS : 0 IFADDR : 0 CONTROL : 0 OOBDATA : 0 IPMOPTS : 0 IPMADDR : 0 IFMADDR : 0 MRTABLE : 0 TOTAL : 128 number of mbufs: 128 number of times failed to find space: 0 number of times waited for space: 0 number of times drained protocols for space: 0 __________________ CLUSTER POOL TABLE _______________________________________________________________________________ size clusters free usage - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1520 112 76 32369 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ************************************************************************************* Statistics for FFDI card seems to be OK for both before and after the FFDI stopped working. - -> endPoolShow (pg "pg",1) type number - --------- ------ FREE : 195 DATA : 5 HEADER : 0 SOCKET : 0 PCB : 0 RTABLE : 0 HTABLE : 0 ATABLE : 0 SONAME : 0 ZOMBIE : 0 SOOPTS : 0 FTABLE : 0 RIGHTS : 0 IFADDR : 0 CONTROL : 0 OOBDATA : 0 IPMOPTS : 0 IPMADDR : 0 IFMADDR : 0 MRTABLE : 0 TOTAL : 200 number of mbufs: 200 number of times failed to find space: 0 number of times waited for space: 0 number of times drained protocols for space: 0 __________________ CLUSTER POOL TABLE _______________________________________________________________________________ size clusters free usage - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5120 200 197 4527 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********************************************************************************* mbufShow before the first disconnection: - -> n mbufShow type number - --------- ------ FREE : 1685 DATA : 513 HEADER : 2 SOCKET : 0 PCB : 0 RTABLE : 0 HTABLE : 0 ATABLE : 0 SONAME : 0 ZOMBIE : 0 SOOPTS : 0 FTABLE : 0 RIGHTS : 0 IFADDR : 0 CONTROL : 0 OOBDATA : 0 IPMOPTS : 0 IPMADDR : 0 IFMADDR : 0 MRTABLE : 0 TOTAL : 2200 number of mbufs: 2200 number of times failed to find space: 0 number of times waited for space: 0 number of times drained protocols for space: 0 __________________ CLUSTER POOL TABLE _______________________________________________________________________________ size clusters free usage - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 64 350 348 511 128 350 350 452 256 350 350 0 512 350 350 0 1024 350 350 0 2048 350 350 0 4096 80 80 30 8192 20 20 0 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ************************************************************************* mbufShow after the first disconnection: Number of free buffer for 128-byte reduces from 350 to 257. - -> mbufShow type number - --------- ------ FREE : 1593 DATA : 605 HEADER : 2 SOCKET : 0 PCB : 0 RTABLE : 0 HTABLE : 0 ATABLE : 0 SONAME : 0 ZOMBIE : 0 SOOPTS : 0 FTABLE : 0 RIGHTS : 0 IFADDR : 0 CONTROL : 0 OOBDATA : 0 IPMOPTS : 0 IPMADDR : 0 IFMADDR : 0 MRTABLE : 0 TOTAL : 2200 number of mbufs: 2200 number of times failed to find space: 0 number of times waited for space: 0 number of times drained protocols for space: 0 __________________ CLUSTER POOL TABLE _______________________________________________________________________________ size clusters free usage - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 64 350 348 2451 128 350 257 2242 256 350 350 0 512 350 350 0 1024 350 350 0 2048 350 350 0 4096 80 80 201 8192 20 20 0 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********************************************************************************** mbufShow after the fourth disconnection. The free buffer number for 128-byte reduced to 0 and the communication on the second was cut off. - -> mbufShow type number - --------- ------ FREE : 1323 DATA : 873 HEADER : 4 SOCKET : 0 PCB : 0 RTABLE : 0 HTABLE : 0 ATABLE : 0 SONAME : 0 ZOMBIE : 0 SOOPTS : 0 FTABLE : 0 RIGHTS : 0 IFADDR : 0 CONTROL : 0 OOBDATA : 0 IPMOPTS : 0 IPMADDR : 0 IFMADDR : 0 MRTABLE : 0 TOTAL : 2200 number of mbufs: 2200 number of times failed to find space: 0 number of times waited for space: 0 number of times drained protocols for space: 0 __________________ CLUSTER POOL TABLE _______________________________________________________________________________ size clusters free usage - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 64 350 345 16053 128 350 0 13845 256 350 341 47 512 350 350 0 1024 350 350 0 2048 350 350 1 4096 80 79 1577 8192 20 20 0 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Telnet Code for Windows? Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:10:56 +0100 From: "Roderik Wildenburg" Organization: MAN Roland Druckmaschinen AG Message-ID: <98kh60$qpi$1@aras.mra.man.de> References: <3AAD6870.70D2A0C@west.raytheon.com> See http://sourceforge.net/ e.g.: Dave´s Telnet. Christopher A Leddy schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: 3AAD6870.70D2A0C@west.raytheon.com... > Does anybody have (or point me to) some simple telnet source for Windows > that I can use to attach to > the telnet target shell? All I want to do is to be able to send text > shell commands from my GUI based program (LabWindows or VC++) to the > target shell and receive shell output as ascii text. > > I have seen a lot of source for a full telnet implementation, but that > is a lot more than I need at the moment. I don't feel like re-inventing > the wheel or spending two days stripping out support for that VT-52 > terminal somebody use to support... > > > I guess just being lazy, but if someone has it, it would save me a lot > of work. > > > > Thanks, > > > Chris --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Network stack 128-byte mbuf pool does not recover Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 00:31:10 GMT From: "Jeff Creem" Organization: Road Runner Message-ID: References: <3AAFF858.9A7B5FDD@spawar.navy.mil> This is just a guess but if you have the source for the Ethernet chipset driver it should be easy to find. I would guess that when the cable is removed the chipset generates some sort of input or output error due to loss of carrier. (try something like ifShow "dc" to see if this is the case). Then I am guessing that the driver gets that interrupt and tries to reset the chip and probably ends up resetting all of the input and output queues associated with the chip without giving the mbufs back. I am not sure if the dc driver you have is one that has the source in the BSP or in the example devices for vxWorks 54 but if so take a look at the error handing interrupts and see if something like this is happening... "Tam Nguyen" wrote in message news:3AAFF858.9A7B5FDD@spawar.navy.mil... > I have sent the following message to WindRiver about 10 days ago asking > some questions concerning a network communication problem but have not > received any feedback yet. Because of the urgency of the project, I > would like to post this message in this group so that somebody who has > the knowledge on the subject may give me a solution or suggestions that > may help me solve the problem. > > Thanks > Tam > > *************************************************** > > Environment: > > VxWorks 5.4 > PowerPC > Green Hill Adamulti > > Support Group, > > Summary: > > 128-byte buffer number was reduced by about 70 every time we > disconnected the Ethernet cable from one of our network interfaces and > the lost buffers were not recovered after we reconnected the cable. > After disconnecting and connecting the same cable several times, no free > 128-byte buffers is left causing the communication from another network > interface to stop. The stopped communication on the second interface > was not able to start again after the cable from the first interface had > been reconnected. The whole system had to be reset in order for the > second network card to work again. > > Description: > > We were testing the error recovering capability of our network and found > out that by disconnecting a cable connecting to a Ethernet device on the > Power PC several times has caused a FDDI network card to stop > communication. The communication was not able to recover after we had > reconnected the Ethernet cable again. > > We had used mbufShow( ) and endPoolShow( ) functions to look at the > network buffers of our system at the two interfaces before and after the > problem. The endPoolShow for both interface indicated that both devices > had plenty of free buffer before and after the problem. However, > mbufShow( ) showed that the free 128-byte buffer number decreased (about > 70) every time the Ethernet cable was disconnected while free buffer > number for other sizes (64, 256, 512,..) remained about the same. When > the free 128-byte buffer number reduced to 0, the another interface > card, FDDI, stopped working. Please notice that the first Ethernet > connection used the Ethernet device on the PowerPC that had been used > for download vxWorks and program while second card was an external VME > FFDI card. We would like to use the Ethernet device on the PPC card on > the production phase. > > What are the reasons why the number of free buffers of one particular > size (128-byte) was reduced while the ones with other sizes was not? > > Why has the action on one network card caused another card to fail? I > thought that it is network stack size. However, after I have increased > the mbuf numbers for both system and data pool, it took more times of > cable disconnection but the communication on the FDDI card finally > failed. > > How do we make changes to fixed the problem? > > If you have any questions, please let me know. > > Some of related statistics are listed below: > > ********************************************** > Statistics for Ethernet card showed OK before and after the FDDI card > stopped working. > > -> endPoolShow (dc "dc",0) > type number > --------- ------ > FREE : 122 > DATA : 6 > HEADER : 0 > SOCKET : 0 > PCB : 0 > RTABLE : 0 > HTABLE : 0 > ATABLE : 0 > SONAME : 0 > ZOMBIE : 0 > SOOPTS : 0 > FTABLE : 0 > RIGHTS : 0 > IFADDR : 0 > CONTROL : 0 > OOBDATA : 0 > IPMOPTS : 0 > IPMADDR : 0 > IFMADDR : 0 > MRTABLE : 0 > TOTAL : 128 > number of mbufs: 128 > number of times failed to find space: 0 > number of times waited for space: 0 > number of times drained protocols for space: 0 > __________________ > CLUSTER POOL TABLE > ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ > > size clusters free usage > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- > > 1520 112 76 32369 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- > > **************************************************************************** ********* > > Statistics for FFDI card seems to be OK for both before and after the > FFDI stopped working. > > -> endPoolShow (pg "pg",1) > type number > --------- ------ > FREE : 195 > DATA : 5 > HEADER : 0 > SOCKET : 0 > PCB : 0 > RTABLE : 0 > HTABLE : 0 > ATABLE : 0 > SONAME : 0 > ZOMBIE : 0 > SOOPTS : 0 > FTABLE : 0 > RIGHTS : 0 > IFADDR : 0 > CONTROL : 0 > OOBDATA : 0 > IPMOPTS : 0 > IPMADDR : 0 > IFMADDR : 0 > MRTABLE : 0 > TOTAL : 200 > number of mbufs: 200 > number of times failed to find space: 0 > number of times waited for space: 0 > number of times drained protocols for space: 0 > __________________ > CLUSTER POOL TABLE > ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ > > size clusters free usage > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- > > 5120 200 197 4527 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- > > **************************************************************************** ***** > > mbufShow before the first disconnection: > > -> n mbufShow > type number > --------- ------ > FREE : 1685 > DATA : 513 > HEADER : 2 > SOCKET : 0 > PCB : 0 > RTABLE : 0 > HTABLE : 0 > ATABLE : 0 > SONAME : 0 > ZOMBIE : 0 > SOOPTS : 0 > FTABLE : 0 > RIGHTS : 0 > IFADDR : 0 > CONTROL : 0 > OOBDATA : 0 > IPMOPTS : 0 > IPMADDR : 0 > IFMADDR : 0 > MRTABLE : 0 > TOTAL : 2200 > number of mbufs: 2200 > number of times failed to find space: 0 > number of times waited for space: 0 > number of times drained protocols for space: 0 > __________________ > CLUSTER POOL TABLE > ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ > > size clusters free usage > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- > > 64 350 348 511 > 128 350 350 452 > 256 350 350 0 > 512 350 350 0 > 1024 350 350 0 > 2048 350 350 0 > 4096 80 80 30 > 8192 20 20 0 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- > > ************************************************************************* > > mbufShow after the first disconnection: Number of free buffer for > 128-byte reduces from 350 to 257. > > -> mbufShow > type number > --------- ------ > FREE : 1593 > DATA : 605 > HEADER : 2 > SOCKET : 0 > PCB : 0 > RTABLE : 0 > HTABLE : 0 > ATABLE : 0 > SONAME : 0 > ZOMBIE : 0 > SOOPTS : 0 > FTABLE : 0 > RIGHTS : 0 > IFADDR : 0 > CONTROL : 0 > OOBDATA : 0 > IPMOPTS : 0 > IPMADDR : 0 > IFMADDR : 0 > MRTABLE : 0 > TOTAL : 2200 > number of mbufs: 2200 > number of times failed to find space: 0 > number of times waited for space: 0 > number of times drained protocols for space: 0 > __________________ > CLUSTER POOL TABLE > ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ > > size clusters free usage > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- > > 64 350 348 2451 > 128 350 257 2242 > 256 350 350 0 > 512 350 350 0 > 1024 350 350 0 > 2048 350 350 0 > 4096 80 80 201 > 8192 20 20 0 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- > > **************************************************************************** ****** > > mbufShow after the fourth disconnection. The free buffer number for > 128-byte reduced to 0 and the communication on the second was cut off. > > -> mbufShow > type number > --------- ------ > FREE : 1323 > DATA : 873 > HEADER : 4 > SOCKET : 0 > PCB : 0 > RTABLE : 0 > HTABLE : 0 > ATABLE : 0 > SONAME : 0 > ZOMBIE : 0 > SOOPTS : 0 > FTABLE : 0 > RIGHTS : 0 > IFADDR : 0 > CONTROL : 0 > OOBDATA : 0 > IPMOPTS : 0 > IPMADDR : 0 > IFMADDR : 0 > MRTABLE : 0 > TOTAL : 2200 > number of mbufs: 2200 > number of times failed to find space: 0 > number of times waited for space: 0 > number of times drained protocols for space: 0 > __________________ > CLUSTER POOL TABLE > ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ > > size clusters free usage > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- > > 64 350 345 16053 > 128 350 0 13845 > 256 350 341 47 > 512 350 350 0 > 1024 350 350 0 > 2048 350 350 1 > 4096 80 79 1577 > 8192 20 20 0 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: taskSuspend - What will be happened in long long time? Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 04:23:17 GMT From: Ephraim Gadsby Organization: W.A.S.T.E. Message-ID: References: <%ekl6.145$kd4.3424@news2.bora.net> <982924461.600174@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <3A99FC33.6C90AAFF@voxware.com> <97dle7$b5$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <3A9AA785.74936F97@voxware.com> On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:59:41 GMT, Craig Vanderborgh wrote: >Sure, I'd be glad to explain a little bit about this stuff. "Pthreads" stands >for "POSIX Threads", and is the subject of the POSIX 1003.x series of >specifications. Pthreads is the most widely used threads API, and is supported >on everything from Solaris and almost all Unix variants, to VMS, Linux, and beyond. >Let's just say that "pthreads" is supported on the majority platforms so it is very >wise to use that API. Whether or not it is provided by a given vendor. > >Thus, when we discovered that Wind River does not provide pthreads, we decided >to implement it ourselves out of their synchronization calls. In general it >makes much more sense to "implement pthreads" than to pollute code with >Wind River's proprietary and anachronistic threads calls. This >was straightforward to do, except for the mutex/condition variable pair I >mentioned in my last message. The use of a mutex/condition variable pair >provides a "critical section" for protecting data shared between threads. >An example of actual use of a mutex/condition var pair is provided by our >mailbox facility, which implements a synchronized message passing facility >similar to the WRS message queue. Both the mailbox insertion and removal methods >require a critical section, so you can pretty easily see how it all is supposed >to work, and how the sender thread ends up notifying the receiver thread when a >message is inserted: > >Bool >MBOX_insert(MBOX mailbox, OBJT message) >/*---------------------------------------------------------------------------* ... From what I have heard from Windriver they regard posix as being aimed at people who need have compatibility with other posix code - which pretty-much means unix The posix libraries are written on top of vxworks, relative to which they have poorer latency and effiency. I had a quick look at your mailbox and I could really see that there was anything that couldn't be far more easily and efficiently implemented in terms of simple vxworks queues I don't really see the point of this. You would probably be better off designing your own API and implementing it terms of both posix and RTOS. Vxworks may seem "proprietary and anachronistic" to you , but it has far more in common with other RTOSs than posix does. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: reloc overflow Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 04:55:02 GMT From: Ephraim Gadsby Organization: W.A.S.T.E. Message-ID: References: <97m490$9fo$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <97sjuf$pttet$1@ID-12908.news.dfncis.de> On Sun, 4 Mar 2001 06:30:35 +0100, "Normen Altiparmak" wrote: >you can add a splitbyreloc in the makefile > but be warned that this doesn't always work - not enough people come-up against the COFF limit to test that it all hangs together after the split. I know that, for example, some versions of the ARM gnu tools will split the text sections around the BSS, which vxworks can't easily cope with. You may need to play around with tool versions. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: booting Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:14:07 -0800 (PST) From: ashwani dwivedi Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <98pj60$or7$1@overload.lbl.gov> hi vxWorks , As my yesterday problem , My board specifications are . PPC 6604 and PPC 6750 with BSP ver 1.2 and vxWorks 5.4. regards Ashwani ===== ASHWANI DWIVEDI Software Specialist Digital Equipment (INDIA) Ltd PRESENTLY : NEC ,Laser and mechotronics divison ,Sagamihara TOKYO - JAPAN E-MAIL :achan@lam.sgm.nec.co.jp . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Can not "Watchdog Timers" & "malloc" be used simultaneously ? Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 06:21:31 GMT From: "iiseull" Organization: Dacom Message-ID: Hi Dears. I want to use "wathdog timers" to do poll some device periodically. To poll the device, many dynamic stacks & memories have to be used. So I insert "malloc" & "free" function into the polling scheme with "wdStart". But the polling scheme is to blocked soon at the moment calling "free". Any dear knows? Thanks in advance. Iiseull Simple codes I wrote at below. - ------------------------------------------------------------------- typedef struct GodDamn { TYPE_t BigSizeMember; } GodDamn; GodDamn *gPtr; GodDamn *sPtr; STATUS PollingSomeDevice (WDOG_ID WdId) { sPtr = (GodDamn *)malloc(sizeof(GodDamn)*1024); if (sPtr == NULL) { perror ("p-malloc"); return(ERROR); } Do Something with "sPtr" ............. free(sPtr); <---------- blocked here... taskDelay ( sysClkRateGet()/4 ); if ( wdStart (WdId, sysClkRateGet() * 2, PollingSomeData, WdId) == ERROR ) { return(ERROR); } } /* * Main Function to call Polling scheme */ STATUS wdTest(void) { WDOG_ID myWdId; int count = 0; if ((myWdId = wdCreate()) == NULL) { printf ( "Watch-dog Create error...\n" ); return(ERROR); } Do Something ... if ( wdStart (myWdId, sysClkRateGet() * 3, PollingSomeData, myWdId ) == ERROR ) return(ERROR); FOREVER { Do Something Periodically... } } --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: TCP Socket Trouble Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 06:40:05 GMT From: Craig Vanderborgh Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <3AB063C5.DD8B584E@voxware.com> Hi All: I have a VxWorks TCP sockets client app, running over a wireless LAN connection. The VxWorks radio LAN client appears to be in contact with the LAN at all times. The trouble is that once in a while (about one time in 200) a socket connection is established (successfully, by all appearances) that is unwritable. My code that calls write() on the supposedly established socket connection just blocks until it returns errno = 32 (broken pipe) after several minutes. After this happens, plus several minutes more, the test seems to recover somehow and soldier on until the next time the failure occurs. What On Earth Is Going On?? I simply do not understand how a successfully established socket connection could be unwritable. I am checking ALL return values from sockets calls. AND, just to be sure, my code that makes the connection with the server does a getpeername() to ensure that the connection is really there. Please help, I'm pretty stuck at the moment. Thanks! craig vanderborgh voxware incorporated --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: re: 2604, Universe II and Sysreset Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:23:24 +0100 From: "Michael Lawnick" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <200103150723.IAA09306@net.softec.de> Hi Mark, I've done it with following /******************************************************************************* * * sysVmeResetAll - Reset all VME targets * * This routine asserts the VMEbus reset signal and thereby resets all connected * targets.. * * RETURNS: N/A */ void sysVmeResetAll(void) { int tmp; UNIV_IN_LONG( UNIVERSE_MISC_CTL, &tmp ); tmp |= MISC_CTL_SW_SRST; UNIV_OUT_LONG( UNIVERSE_MISC_CTL, tmp ); } It will reset _all_ VME targets (inclusive the target calling the routine itself). Do a rebootHookAdd() to connect this routine to the reboot command, to do a reset of complete bus, when you type reboot on shell. HTH > > I'm using a 2604 and trying to assert SYSRESET to the VME bus. My reset > button works as it resets the cards on the VME bus but I can't reset them > programmatically through the Universe II chip. There is a register called > MISC_CTL that has a bit called SW_SYSRST. > > Here is the code I tried in universe.c: > ResetVMEBus() > { > UNIV_OUT_LONG(UNIVERSE_MISC_CTL, MISC_CTL_SW_SRST > | MISC_CTL_SYSCON > | MISC_CTL_VBTO_256USEC > | MISC_CTL_VARB_RROBIN > | MISC_CTL_VARBTO_256USEC > | MISC_CTL_RESCIND); > } > Anybody tried this on the 2604? Does this work for anyone else? I really > need this to work, so any help is REALLY appreciated. > > Thanks > Mark > tornado, vxWorks Michael Lawnick, SOFTEC GmbH ============================================== SOFTEC GmbH Tel +49-731-96600-0 Promenade 17 Fax +49-731-96600-23 D-89073 Ulm Michael Lawnick Germany lawnick@softec.de ============================================== --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Need for help: replace VxWorks network stack (SENS) with a 3rd Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:34:08 +0000 (UTC) From: emmanuel.boulier@acterna.com Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: Hi everybody, I'm currently making a small study to know how it is easy to replace the SENS network stack with an other product (FUSION from Pacific SW) and then, any previous experience is welcome! - - What are the problems I can expect? - - How long is the job? - - Do I have to patch the kernel (and therefore buy some of the code!)? - - Will the VxWorks (FTP client & servers, TFTP ones, Target server, WindView...) still work afterwards or will they be limitations? FYI, the product we purchase is providing us up to the TCP and UDP protocols (means they support the BSD API and therefore the other components running on top should respect this API) Thank you in advance for your support! Emmanuel - -- Posted from [141.169.254.2] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Can not "Watchdog Timers" & "malloc" be used simultaneously ? Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:34:46 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <984649173.647423@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: I think watchdog routines run in interrupt context... At least on some platforms. malloc/free must not be used for ISR, so if my assumption is right this gives you the reason hth werner "iiseull" wrote in message news:LbZr6.562$qP.17349@news2.bora.net... > Hi Dears. > > I want to use "wathdog timers" to do poll some device periodically. > To poll the device, many dynamic stacks & memories have to be used. > So I insert "malloc" & "free" function into the polling scheme with > "wdStart". > But the polling scheme is to blocked soon at the moment calling "free". > > Any dear knows? > > > Thanks in advance. > > Iiseull > > > > Simple codes I wrote at below. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > typedef struct GodDamn { > TYPE_t BigSizeMember; > } GodDamn; > > GodDamn *gPtr; > GodDamn *sPtr; > > > STATUS PollingSomeDevice (WDOG_ID WdId) > { > sPtr = (GodDamn *)malloc(sizeof(GodDamn)*1024); > if (sPtr == NULL) > { > perror ("p-malloc"); > return(ERROR); > } > > Do Something with "sPtr" ............. > > free(sPtr); <---------- blocked here... > > taskDelay ( sysClkRateGet()/4 ); > > if ( wdStart (WdId, sysClkRateGet() * 2, PollingSomeData, WdId) == > ERROR ) > { > return(ERROR); > } > } > > > /* > * Main Function to call Polling scheme > */ > STATUS wdTest(void) > { > WDOG_ID myWdId; > int count = 0; > > if ((myWdId = wdCreate()) == NULL) > { > printf ( "Watch-dog Create error...\n" ); > return(ERROR); > } > > Do Something ... > > if ( wdStart (myWdId, sysClkRateGet() * 3, PollingSomeData, myWdId ) == > ERROR ) > return(ERROR); > > FOREVER > { > Do Something Periodically... > } > } > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: switch off mouse cursor Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:46:07 +0100 From: Christoph Behnke Organization: KID Systeme GmbH Message-ID: Sender: Christoph Behnke Hi As the VxWorks Java does not provide a possibility to switch off the mouse cursor, I want to know if there is any function to switch the cursor off in front of starting the Java Application? My environment is: Pentium board similiar to a PC. LCD Touch screen. Pentium BSP, UGL graphics driver, some lines of C-code to start the Java Interpreter. Christoph --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: split-by-reloc help? Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:04:01 +0200 From: Amit Raam Organization: Verio Message-ID: Hi, I've just had to add this flag to a project I'm building, and I wonder why do I have to add a parameter, and how should I set its value? I've had a problem with the result build. one of the files is a large static array of hex codes. Using 'split-by-reloc 40000' damaged the data. Reducing to 20000 fixed the problem, but I'm applying pure guesswork here. How should I use this? Tornado 2.0 / i960 running on NT cc960 --version cygnus-2.7.2-960126 egcs-971225 tornado 2.0 ld960 --version ld version cygnus-2.6 (with BFD cygnus-2.6) Thanks, Amit Raam Email address: raama at indigo.co.il - -------------------------------------------------- ".sigless and proud of it" (R) (C) (tm) (look-and-feel) Std. disclaimer:I don't represent the opinions of anyone but myself. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: One module not syncing symbols with host symbol table Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:49:26 GMT From: "Barry Kelly" Organization: NBTel Internet Message-ID: This is a simple and easily reproducable problem. From usrAppInit(), we loadModule() a module and spawn a function contained within which, in turn, loads several driver modules via loadModule() and spawns each driver accordingly. This works great. However, in the development scenario (i.e. not standalone), we want the host symbol table to sync up all global symbols as these modules are loaded by the target. All modules, except the first, are sync'ed up with the host!?!? I have a serial shell connected to the target as well as a development shell and I don't get any "unresolved symbol" messages during any of the loadModule() calls. If I do moduleShow() on the target, all modules are listed. If I do moduleShow() on the development shell, the first module loaded is not in the list. I added a 10 second taskDelay() just prior to the first loadModule() call in the usrAppInit() thinking that maybe the host needs some time to prepare for symbol-table sync'ing but it didn't help. Any thoughts? Barry --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Getting TMS started Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:23:29 -0500 From: Wu@mosaid.com Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <98qmb0$gom$1@overload.lbl.gov> vxWorks/Tornado, Hello vxWorks world, Does anyone there have any experience with TMS? I'm using WindRiver HSI reference design PPMC755. After building the vxworks image for CPU=PPC604 and SSP_NAME=bcm5600 for L3/L2, I copied the vxWorks image (.bdx file) to flush file system, then booting it. Then I have message from serial console: >RUN>Attached TCP/IP interface to dcf unit 0 Attaching network interface lo0... done. interrupt: dcf0 - fatal system error 0xf7e708 (tNetTask): dcf0 - restarting device. NFS client support not included. VxWorks Copyright 1984-1998 Wind River Systems, Inc. CPU: Wind River HSI BSP. hsiPPMC7xx Board VxWorks: 5.4 BSP version: 1.2/3 Creation date: Mar 14 2001 WDB: Ready. interrupt: dcf0 - fatal system error interrupt: dcf0 - fatal system error 0xf7e708 (tNetTask): dcf0 - restarting device. interrupt: dcf0 - fatal system error interrupt: dcf0 - fatal system error interrupt: dcf0 - fatal system error 0xf7e708 (tNetTask): dcf0 - restarting device. This error message lasts forever. I do not have a physical bcm5600 switch attached to the target yet, but I would expect I can have a stable initialized serial console and web access. Can anyone show me some light there? Thanks Huang Wu Mosaid Technologies, wu@mosaid.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: switch off mouse cursor Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:07:08 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck CB> Hi As the VxWorks Java does not provide a possibility to CB> switch off the mouse cursor, I want to know if there is CB> any function to switch the cursor off in front of starting CB> the Java Application? CB> My environment is: Pentium board similiar to a PC. LCD CB> Touch screen. Pentium BSP, UGL graphics driver, some CB> lines of C-code to start the Java Interpreter. You must give more information. What do you mean by `switch the cursor off'? 1.) Do you want the cursor not to display? You can then set the cursor image to nothing in WindML/UGL. 2.) You want no cursor at all. Configure UGL to not start the touch screen driver. hth, Bill - -- Harry, before he was helped by Kibology, was real, because that's how the Universe, U for Uniform, works. Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VxWorks resolver/DNS cache Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:28:33 -0500 From: "Alexandre Gouraud" Organization: Nortel Message-ID: <98qqjj$9so$1@bmerhc5e.ca.nortel.com> Hi, I have a pretty simple question : Does the VxWorks resolver cache anything or not. if yes, what do I have to configure for that. (cacheLib ?) --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what's objLib? Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:06:37 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <98ldn6$s7r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <984518665.536737@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <98o8n9$l7k$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> >> Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman) wrote in message >> news:98ldn6$s7r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com... >> > When I show task information. I got ERRNO of 3d0001 and 3d0002. Then I >> found >> > module #3d means objLib. But I can't find that lib in ref_manual of >> vxWorks. >Werner Schiendl wrote in message >news:984518665.536737@newsmaster-04.atnet.at... >> lookup $(WIND_BASE)/target/h/objLib.h >> >> there you'll find >> >> #define S_objLib_OBJ_ID_ERROR (M_objLib | 1) >> #define S_objLib_OBJ_UNAVAILABLE (M_objLib | 2) It is probably also worth mentioning that you can ignore this error: it happened way down in the kernel somewhere, and was dealt with by the kernel. This is because errno gets set when an error occurs, but is never cleared: it only ever gets set to a new value when a new error happens. The value of errno is only valid immediately after you get an ERROR code returned from some kernel function. If the function returns OK, errno might or might not have a value in it, but you *must* ignore it. It isn't important, but I *think* that the 0x3d0001/2 error happens somewhere deep in the inner levels of ioLib. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: intDisable fail Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:39:14 +0800 From: "xxx" Organization: Ye 'Ol Disorganized NNTPCache groupie Message-ID: <984682111.946284@news.pagic.net> References: <984491318.456975@news.pagic.net> <3AAEE13F.9796EF2D@yahoo.com> <98nqti$mnn$1@news.seed.net.tw> Hi, sorry for not describe clearly I think it's a task spwan by a shell, the task do: 1. disable interrupt(using intDisable(...), or intlock()) 2. register isr via intConnect() 3. reset that peripheral via a I/O pin. (after about , the peripheral will generate a interrupt and jump into ISR) 4. do something(just print some char... or while(1){} ). I think the maual chapter 2.5.3 describe the coding restriction inside ISR, but my problem is "I can't successfully disable INT"... I just wander it's BSP problem? or I can't disable INT in task level(or shell level)? or it's MIPS R4650 library problem? anyone has ever successfully disable INT in MIPS R4650 under a downloadable module? or any idea? Thanks in advance, Jo Melvin Gardipee > <" wrote in message ... >Your item 3 lists do some jobs. You do restrict these jobs to the >allowed libraries listed within the VxWorks Programmers Guide >(5.4 Edition 1) in chapter 2 Basic OS in section 2.5.3 Special >Limitations of ISR's? >If not, can you use a semGive() to a high priority task that will do >these jobs for you? > >Regards >Mel > > >ccy wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I am using libR4650gnuvx.a , my downloadable program flow looks like: >> 1. register ISR routine via intConnect() >> 2. reset that peripheral via a I/O pin. >> (after a while, the peripheral will generate a interrupt and jump into >> ISR) >> 3. do some jobs... >> --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Download times to X86 board. Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:46:42 -0500 From: "Edwin McKay" Message-ID: When downloading my app to the VxWorks target, the through put seems fairly slow. We are using a 10Mbit e-net but the bytes per second on download is roughly 41k/sec. I would have thought it would have been much higher. Using FTP as a comparison it takes 5.4 seconds or 234k/sec to download the same file. Are there any settings in Tornado that can be changed to decrease the download time? --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: 2604, Universe II and Sysreset Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:58:33 -0600 From: Andrew Johnson Organization: APS, Argonne National Laboratory Message-ID: <3AB11EE9.13767491@aps.anl.gov> References: <98on21$7c8$1@overload.lbl.gov> mmenge@mtspt.com wrote: > > I'm using a 2604 and trying to assert SYSRESET to the VME bus. My reset > button works as it resets the cards on the VME bus but I can't reset them > programmatically through the Universe II chip. There is a register called > MISC_CTL that has a bit called SW_SYSRST. > > Here is the code I tried in universe.c: > ResetVMEBus() > { > UNIV_OUT_LONG(UNIVERSE_MISC_CTL, MISC_CTL_SW_SRST > | MISC_CTL_SYSCON > | MISC_CTL_VBTO_256USEC > | MISC_CTL_VARB_RROBIN > | MISC_CTL_VARBTO_256USEC > | MISC_CTL_RESCIND); > } > Anybody tried this on the 2604? Does this work for anyone else? I really > need this to work, so any help is REALLY appreciated. The SW_SYSRST bit works fine for me on an mv2700 (which uses the same Universe-2 chip). From the shell, the line *0xfd050404=0x00004652 causes a system reset (and reboots the mv2700 as well). It's possible that this functionality could be disabled if the board is not the VME system controller - check the manual if you're trying this on a CPU to the right of slot 0. - - Andrew - -- Every great idea appears crazy to start with. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Testing an SNMP Agent... Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:53:09 -0700 From: "T. Hendry" Organization: Motorola Message-ID: <3AB12BB5.11BD1E24@hotmail.com> We have built an SNMP Agent for VxWorks. The SNMP Agent can either be built for the actual target (VxWorks operating system) or for a VxSim simulator. I'd like to be able to test the Agent on the simulator by sending SNMP queries to the Agent. However, I want to avoid having to write a driver that creates the Request PDUs. Does anyone know of an SNMP Manager or some free test drivers that are available for use with VxSim to test an SNMP agent? Or is there any other "easy" way to test the customized SNMP Agent we have built? Thanks for the info. the_hendrys@hotmail.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: One module not syncing symbols with host symbol table Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:11:57 -0600 From: Edsel Harrell Organization: Raytheon Company Message-ID: <3AB1301D.B56F369@raytheon.com> References: Barry Kelly wrote: > This is a simple and easily reproducable problem. > > From usrAppInit(), we loadModule() a module and spawn a function contained > within which, in turn, loads several driver modules via loadModule() and > spawns each driver accordingly. > > This works great. However, in the development scenario (i.e. not > standalone), we want the host symbol table to sync up all global symbols as > these modules are loaded by the target. > > All modules, except the first, are sync'ed up with the host!?!? > > I have a serial shell connected to the target as well as a development shell > and I don't get any "unresolved symbol" messages during any of the > loadModule() calls. If I do moduleShow() on the target, all modules are > listed. If I do moduleShow() on the development shell, the first module > loaded is not in the list. > > I added a 10 second taskDelay() just prior to the first loadModule() call in > the usrAppInit() thinking that maybe the host needs some time to prepare for > symbol-table sync'ing but it didn't help. > > Any thoughts? > > Barry Questions: 1. Does the kernel symbols sync up? Does the kernel show up in moduleShow list? 2. Is the host target server (tgtsrv) running during the boot? 3. The (first) module is in a format that HAS symbols? 4. The loadModule call symbols option specifies which type of symbols to be loaded (none? global? all?) 5. Have you tried the Tornado module browser? 6. Do any of the modules have duplicate names? (like "vxworks") 7. What flavor of Tornado and VxWorks are you using? I've done a similar thing using startup scripts with no problems. There are some IP connection related issues with sym sync in the FAQ... and some sym sync timeout issues... but my experience with these is that they result in an all or none sym sync You might try adding some "ping" and "ifShow" calls to your usrAppInit to see if there is a network issue of some type ... One last straw to chase... It might be related to sockets or other filedescriptor related resources being used up by target processing that immediately follows the 1st load... - -- Edsel A. Harrell, Jr (voice) (972) 575-6468 (email) eah@raytheon.com Sr Principal Systems Eng/honors (pager) (972) 558-4204 (numeric numbers only) Raytheon Systems Company (snail) 6600 Chase Oaks Blvd, MS 8454, Plano, Tx 75023 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Proofread Carefully to See if You Any Words Out" DISCLAIMER: I speak only for myself, not my employer. EXCEPTION: If any of my ideas are worth more than $0.02, then they are property of my employer. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: DHCP request before ATA download Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:53:04 GMT From: "Christophe Belmont" Organization: Verio Message-ID: <4Ras6.3215$ws2.194908@ord-read.news.verio.net> Hi, I was using DHCP to get an IP address for the VxWorks5.4. Then I downloaded the image from the network. I was also using the DHCPGet function to perform my own IP address initialization. I've switched to ATA boot and the DHCPGet code is not executed anymore. The target don't even try to send a BOOTP Request. Any idea, Christophe. PS: I already have the line "o=fei" in the boot line in order to initialize the network. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: STL help in VxWorks Date: 15 Mar 2001 22:34:20 GMT From: bte@tog.arl.psu.edu (Bruce T. Einfalt) Organization: Applied Research Laboratory Keywords: STL Message-ID: <98rg1c$fqs@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Reply-To: bte@tog.arl.psu.edu Hi, I am using vxWorks and am having trouble with STL in C++. It compiles and links but I get erronous results when I run it when it is declared globally. It works fine when declared locally. Enclosed is the simple sample program that fails. I also included the version of my compiler and platform. Any help anyone could provide would be deeply appreciated. I read through the compiler and believe my kernel is built properly. Is this feature not supported by this compiler? Of course, this works with g++ but it is a much newer version of the compiler than what vxworks is using. Any ideas? Program that fails (runs but gives garbage) #include #include queue qlist[2]; // when moved inside testq it works testq() { cout << "Queue size " << qlist[0].size() << endl; } Compiler and platform: % ccppc --version cygnus-2.7.2-960126 egcs-971225 tornado 2.0 Platform: Motorola G4 PowerPC MVMR5101 Important makefile flags: CFLAGS = -g -O0 -mstrict-align -nostdinc -DRW_MULTI_THREAD -D_REENTRANT -fvolatile -fno-builtin -ffor-scope -DVXWORKS INC = -I/pub/vxworks/tornado-2.0-00/target/h -I/pub/vxworks/tornado-2.0-00/target/h/std Thanks and Best Regards, - -- Bruce Einfalt ARL - Penn State 814-863-4142 beinfalt@psu.edu - -- Bruce Einfalt ARL - Penn State 814-863-4142 beinfalt@psu.edu --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Getting TMS started Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:53:11 -0500 From: "nraju" Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <98rrm2$tem$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net> References: <98qmb0$gom$1@overload.lbl.gov> If you do not have bcm5600, what BSP do you have. Now you have the bcm5600 BSP in the vxWorks image. Is the board you are having, has a similar BSP as that of Broadcomm switch? wrote in message news:98qmb0$gom$1@overload.lbl.gov... > > vxWorks/Tornado, > > Hello vxWorks world, > > Does anyone there have any experience with TMS? > I'm using WindRiver HSI reference design PPMC755. After building the > vxworks image for CPU=PPC604 and SSP_NAME=bcm5600 for L3/L2, I copied the > vxWorks image (.bdx file) to flush file system, then booting it. Then I > have message from serial console: > > >RUN>Attached TCP/IP interface to dcf unit 0 > Attaching network interface lo0... done. > interrupt: dcf0 - fatal system error > 0xf7e708 (tNetTask): dcf0 - restarting device. > NFS client support not included. > > > VxWorks > Copyright 1984-1998 Wind River Systems, Inc. > > CPU: Wind River HSI BSP. hsiPPMC7xx Board > VxWorks: 5.4 > BSP version: 1.2/3 > Creation date: Mar 14 2001 > WDB: Ready. > > interrupt: dcf0 - fatal system error > interrupt: dcf0 - fatal system error > 0xf7e708 (tNetTask): dcf0 - restarting device. > interrupt: dcf0 - fatal system error > interrupt: dcf0 - fatal system error > interrupt: dcf0 - fatal system error > 0xf7e708 (tNetTask): dcf0 - restarting device. > > This error message lasts forever. I do not have a physical bcm5600 switch > attached to the target yet, but I would expect I can have a stable > initialized serial console and web access. > > Can anyone show me some light there? > > Thanks > > Huang Wu > Mosaid Technologies, wu@mosaid.com > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: STL help in VxWorks Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:02:08 +0000 From: Hugh Duggan Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: <3AB1C880.A8CB9116@lucent.com> References: <98rg1c$fqs@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Bruce, I take it that you are loading this test program as a separate module, rather than linking it with your kernel? You need to munch the .o file in order to add constructors for global objects - see your documentation for details. Otherwise, no constructors are called at module load time (so your stack-based objects are constructed correctly, but not the global ones). STL works just fine for me in Tornado 2.0 Hugh "Bruce T. Einfalt" wrote: > > Hi, > I am using vxWorks and am having trouble with STL in C++. It compiles and > links but I get erronous results when I run it when it is declared globally. > It works fine when declared locally. > ... > > Program that fails (runs but gives garbage) > > #include > #include > > queue qlist[2]; // when moved inside testq it works > testq() > { cout << "Queue size " << qlist[0].size() << endl; > } > > ... > Important makefile flags: > CFLAGS = -g -O0 -mstrict-align -nostdinc -DRW_MULTI_THREAD -D_REENTRANT -fvolatile -fno-builtin -ffor-scope -DVXWORKS > INC = -I/pub/vxworks/tornado-2.0-00/target/h -I/pub/vxworks/tornado-2.0-00/target/h/std - ----------------------------------------------------------- Hugh Duggan | Phone : +44 1666 832118 Lucent Technologies | FAX : +44 1666 832925 Chippenham, UNITED KINGDOM | E-mail : hduggan@lucent.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: where are _RType defined? Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:32:24 GMT From: "YHU" Organization: AT&T Worldnet Message-ID: Hi, I got a compiling error. Does anyone know where "_RType" is defined? Thanks In file included from /Tornado/target/h/regs.h:59, from /Tornado/target/h/taskLib.h:116, from rcs_prnt.cc:35: /Tornado/target/h/arch/ppc/regsPpc.h:27: syntax error before `[' In file included from /Tornado/target/h/excLib.h:66, from /Tornado/target/h/taskLib.h:117, from rcs_prnt.cc:35: /Tornado/target/h/arch/ppc/excPpcLib.h:35: syntax error before `;' make[1]: Entering directory `/RCS/src/os_intf' ( GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=/Tornado/host/x86-win32/lib/gcc-lib/; export GCC_EXEC_PREFIX; PATH=/Tornado/host/x86-win32/bin; export PATH; \ /Tornado/host/x86-win32/bin/ccppc _sem.c -c \ -I/RCS/plat/vxworksppc5.4/include \ -O -g -nostdinc -DVXWORKS -DV5_4 -DCPU=PPC601 -DPOWERPC -D__PROTOTYPE_5_0 - mlon gcall -I. -I/Tornado/target/h -DPLATNAME=\"vxworksppc5.4\" -I/VC98/Include -o /RCS/plat/vxworksppc5.4/lib/_sem.o ) In file included from /Tornado/target/h/regs.h:59, from /Tornado/target/h/taskLib.h:116, from vxworks_sem.c:8, from _sem.c:9: /Tornado/target/h/arch/ppc/regsPpc.h:27: syntax error before `_RType' In file included from /Tornado/target/h/excLib.h:66, from /Tornado/target/h/taskLib.h:117, from vxworks_sem.c:8, from _sem.c:9: --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Enable/disable interrupt Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:45:28 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Torbj=F6rn?= Frostemark Organization: FOI Message-ID: <3AB1D2A8.12167A2A@foi.se> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------A0CA6F068C2A5299350DAACC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Should I use intDisable/intEnable or intLock/intUnlock to disable a hardware interrupt in an application when the ISR and the application is using a common resource? regards, Torbjorn - --------------A0CA6F068C2A5299350DAACC Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="torfr.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Torbjörn Frostemark Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="torfr.vcf" begin:vcard n:Frostemark;Torbjörn tel;cell:+46-70-249 76 27 tel;fax:+46-(13-37 80 49 tel;work:+46-13-37 80 14 x-mozilla-html:TRUE org:FOI - Swedish Defence Research Agency;Electronic Warfare Systems adr:;;Box 1165;SE-581 11 Linköping;;;SWEDEN version:2.1 email;internet:torfr@foi.se title:Research Engineer fn:Torbjörn Frostemark end:vcard - --------------A0CA6F068C2A5299350DAACC-- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: AR386 utility provided vith T2 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:02:45 +0100 From: f.pertin@staubli.com Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <98sp4g$kim$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hello VXWORKS and TORNADO gurus, I am using tornado 2.0 under WINNT4.0, I want to merge 2 archives files in one file. I try to do it with the command script ADDLIB of the ar386 utility. When I call this command I get a windows error (memory cannot be read ...). Does anybody already saw this problem ??? I beleive yes! so how do you do to merge archive files ???? Thanks in advance Francois --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VME interrupts problem (longish) Date: 16 Mar 2001 10:40:25 GMT From: sockmonster@zoom.co.uk Organization: NewsOne.Net - Free Usenet News via the Web - http://newsone.net/ Message-ID: <98sqip$uud$1@news.netmar.com> Followup-To: comp.os.vxworks We are using Tornado 2.0 and vxWorks 5.4. Our target is a DY4 SVME179, BSP Version 1.2, BSP Revision /Eng 0.4 601903-007. We currently have two problems with handling interrupts from the VME bus. These problems may be related. 1st problem: We have an intermittent hang/crash when interrupts being generated from several devices on the VME bus are being handled in our software. Without interrupts being generated we do not experience any problem. With interrupts being generated the crash/hang can occur within a few minutes or may take several hours. We are using Rational Apex Embedded layered on top of vxWorks. Our interrupt handlers are written in Ada, placed in a wrapper (to save and restore various registers) provided by the Rational V_Interrupts package and attached using the V_Interrupts.Attach_Isr routine. Vme interrupts are enabled with a direct call to the BSP function sysIntEnable. All our interrupts are VME level 1. We get differing behaviour each time we run our software. Sometimes the software crashes, and causes vxWorks to try and reboot the processor (sometimes the reboot works, sometimes it doesn't). Sometimes the software appears to just hang, but the windshell still appears functional. Sometimes, when it crashes or hangs, we get a storage exception in the windshell - it appears something is trying to access a memory address that simply doesn't exist. If we run our software under the Apex debugger with associated windshell console, we sometimes get a message that says "Resource is NULL". We have progressively cut our interrupt handler down to a bare minimum to try and isolate the problem but with no success. Our interrupt handler now simply disables the interrupt source (the VME device), reads data from the device (which according to the device documentation also acknowledges the interrupt), and then re-enable the interrupt source. We have tried increasing the interrupt stack size up to 100k. In fact increasing the stack size seemed to make the crash/hang occur more quickly. We have tried wrapping our handler in a Rational routine that also saves and restores the floating point register (even though our handler does not use floating point explicitly) - again no success. 2nd problem: We are getting a number of warning messages from the universe.c driver when interrupts are being generated from devices on the VME bus. These are: bad vme interrupt Default handler for vector 64 received unknown interrupt 0 We have three interrupt handlers attached to vectors 65, 66 and 67. We have read about similar problems. The usual source of the problem appears to be that the device generating the interrupt is slow to drop its interrupt request once acknowledged. The universe.c driver can have executed our interrupt handler and returned before the interrupt request has been dropped, and therefore we see further "phantom" interrupts. We have tried moving the line *UNIVERSE_LINT_STAT = LONGSWAP(LVL1); in the universe.c driver to after the call to the interrupt handler. No success. We have tried reading back registers that we have written to on the interrupt device, to flush any out posted writes. No success. We would appreciate any help you can give us. Regards, Chris Winstanley ----- Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the Web ----- http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam. If this or other posts made through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email abuse@newsone.net --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: VME interrupts problem (longish) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:23:55 GMT From: "Jeff Creem" Organization: Road Runner Message-ID: References: <98sqip$uud$1@news.netmar.com> I would be interesting to find out what the cause of the reboot is. Usually in the BSP there is a setup that configures a memory location where a vxWorks exception message (not Ada exception) gets written to prior to the board rebooting (if it is somewhat clean). I do not have a vxWorks environment here right now but it is something like sysExceptionMsg (that is certainly NOT the exact name of the symbol that holds the address). Also if you can configure your BSP so that it includes the old vxWorks 5.2 shell stuff and hook up a serial console, at times the message will have time to be output to the serial link prior to a reboot. The next step after this would of course depend on message you find. Those warnings from the Universe chip are troublesome. It really does seem as if the ISR (yours or others) are being existing prior to the interrupt clearing. Are there any error conditions of the serial chip you are using that require something other than a simple read to clear? Also on your target are VME interrupts (not just the chipset interrupt) auto acknowledged or do you need to call sysBusIntAck? If you want to remove most of the Apex issues you could still leave your ISR in Ada but use the traditional vxWorks calls to create an ISR from procedure address and attach via vxWorks calls... wrote in message news:98sqip$uud$1@news.netmar.com... > We are using Tornado 2.0 and vxWorks 5.4. > > Our target is a DY4 SVME179, BSP Version 1.2, BSP Revision /Eng 0.4 > 601903-007. > > We currently have two problems with handling interrupts from the VME bus. > These problems may be related. > > 1st problem: > > We have an intermittent hang/crash when interrupts being generated from > several devices on the VME bus are being handled in our software. Without > interrupts being generated we do not experience any problem. With interrupts > being generated the crash/hang can occur within a few minutes or may take > several hours. > > We are using Rational Apex Embedded layered on top of vxWorks. Our interrupt > handlers are written in Ada, placed in a wrapper (to save and restore various > registers) provided by the Rational V_Interrupts package and attached using > the V_Interrupts.Attach_Isr routine. Vme interrupts are enabled with a direct > call to the BSP function sysIntEnable. All our interrupts are VME level 1. > > We get differing behaviour each time we run our software. Sometimes the > software crashes, and causes vxWorks to try and reboot the processor > (sometimes the reboot works, sometimes it doesn't). Sometimes the software > appears to just hang, but the windshell still appears functional. Sometimes, > when it crashes or hangs, we get a storage exception in the windshell - it > appears something is trying to access a memory address that simply doesn't > exist. > > If we run our software under the Apex debugger with associated windshell > console, we sometimes get a message that says "Resource is NULL". > > We have progressively cut our interrupt handler down to a bare minimum to try > and isolate the problem but with no success. Our interrupt handler now simply > disables the interrupt source (the VME device), reads data from the device > (which according to the device documentation also acknowledges the > interrupt), and then re-enable the interrupt source. > > We have tried increasing the interrupt stack size up to 100k. In fact > increasing the stack size seemed to make the crash/hang occur more quickly. > > We have tried wrapping our handler in a Rational routine that also saves and > restores the floating point register (even though our handler does not use > floating point explicitly) - again no success. > > 2nd problem: > > We are getting a number of warning messages from the universe.c driver when > interrupts are being generated from devices on the VME bus. These are: > > bad vme interrupt > Default handler for vector 64 > received unknown interrupt 0 > > We have three interrupt handlers attached to vectors 65, 66 and 67. > > We have read about similar problems. The usual source of the problem appears > to be that the device generating the interrupt is slow to drop its interrupt > request once acknowledged. The universe.c driver can have executed our > interrupt handler and returned before the interrupt request has been dropped, > and therefore we see further "phantom" interrupts. > > We have tried moving the line *UNIVERSE_LINT_STAT = LONGSWAP(LVL1); in the > universe.c driver to after the call to the interrupt handler. No success. > > We have tried reading back registers that we have written to on the interrupt > device, to flush any out posted writes. No success. > > > > We would appreciate any help you can give us. > > Regards, > Chris Winstanley > > > > > ----- Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the eb ----- > http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups > NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam. If this or other posts > made through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email abuse@newsone.net --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Recruiment offer soft developer VxWorks in California Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:56:20 +0100 From: "Gael Leroy" Organization: Wanadoo, l'internet avec France Telecom Message-ID: <98tdf4$101$1@wanadoo.fr> Reply-To: "Gael Leroy" SEI Executive is a recruiter based in Los Angeles, California. We currently have an opportunity in California for a Senior Software developer VxWorks/C. 5 years experience in programming SMB, TCP/IP, LPR, LPQ, NetBIOS, NetBEUI, HTTPD, Novell Netware IPX/SPX, Apple Talk, SNMP, BootP, DHCP, FTP, Telnet, DNS, SMTP, and POP3. Fluent in C language. Must have experience with VxWorks/Tornado real-time embedded operating system. Knowledge of Ethernet, Token Ring. Experience in print server environment. B.S. in Computer Science, prefer M.S. in Computer Science. The salary may vary from $85.000 to $100.000 per year. If you are interested, let us know if you are available, and send us your resume in English. We will then contact you for further informations. Best regards, Gael Leroy Recruitment manager. SEI International 265 av. des Etats du Languedoc 34000 Montpellier Tel: 04 67 99 46 00 Fax: 04 67 99 46 01 email: sei.fr@euroqualita.it SEI Executive 9301 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 200 Beverly Hills, CA 90210 Tel: (1) 310 205 9700 Fax: (1) 310 205 9701 email: sei.usa@euroqualita.it --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: UDP anomaly Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:42:15 -0500 From: Joe Carissimi Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <98te7g$btb$1@overload.lbl.gov> I think I have seen some traffic on this issue on the exploder, but am unable to locate it in my pile of mail messages. I am running Tornado II on two DY4 SVM179 ( PPC750s) SBCs. The first SBC is a server, the second is a client. Both SBCs open UDP sockets. The client SBC broadcasts a message over the network which the server SBC receives. (Note that this is the first message to be received by the server). The server replies directly to the client with data of about 3K ( more than one packet). The client never receives the data. I am able to get this to work if : 1) The client sends directly to the server (ie..no broadcast). 2) The client sends (broadcast) a message the server which the response is < one packet. Has anyone seen this? and if so, is there an SPR # on it. - -- Joe Carissimi BBN Technologies Middletown, RI 02842 (401) 848-3525 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: CD access from VxWorks calls Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:05:52 +0530 From: "Prashant Jaysing Mhamunkar" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <98te7k$btd$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hello, I have a target which has a CD drive associated with it and has VxWorks image. The device can be seen from the shell by issuing "devs" command. I am able to open the device using "open" system call. The CD under test has Microsoft Windows 95 compatible file system. When I issue "dirList" command, it returns -1 after sometimes. Could anybody know how to handle this situation and access the CD files and list them in a character array, possibly. (Or is there any other way of accessing the CD files). Thanks in advance, Prashant. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: call to pppInit() Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:15:19 +0100 From: "Simon Gloanec" Organization: France Telecom R&D Message-ID: <98te5j$e1j1@news.rd.francetelecom.fr> When using pppScretAdd() to build a secrets database on the target, under VxWorks, how should I configure the chap_file member of the PPP_OPTIONS structure ? --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: vxworks boot ROM_COPY Date: 16 Mar 2001 11:32:26 -0500 From: vanbaren@falcon.si.com (vanbaren_gerald) Organization: Smiths Industries Message-ID: <3ab2401a$1@news.si.com> References: <98ngl4$d1e$1@news.netmar.com> <3aafbf9a$1@news.si.com> vanbaren@falcon.si.com (vanbaren_gerald) writes: Oops, I had some misinformation in my post. I use the elfhex utility (-a option) to relocate my vxWorks (which is org-ed at the run location, 0x00100000 in my case) to the load location and convert it into a S-record file. In my previous post, I said that this happened automatically. If you didn't want an S-record file, you should be able to use objcopyppc to do the relocation. gvb >anthony.rouaux@oreka.com writes: >>Hi, >>i d like to create a boot rom wich is a ROM_COPY boot and wich is able to copy >>different versions of my soft to RAM at the beginning. >>For this thing, i want to create a 2 boot parts wich are my softwares that >>must be copied in ram and and other one which is placed at the boot adress to >>link copy the software i want to the ram. >>Is it easy to do this whith Tornado. How can i link to different boot file in >>flash? >>Thanks a lot >>Anthony >What I did was to make a BootROM that was a ROM_COPY (ROM_Compress would >also work, ROM_Resident would require a different but similar mechanism). >I made a copy of romStart.c in my project directory and changed my Tornado >project to use that version rather than the default romStart.c version >(which comes from the Tornado install subdirectory). >You have to add the customized romStart.c file and do >"properties" and mimic the configuration under the "Build" tab: check [x] >build for ROM, uncheck [ ] use standard rules, and insert the custom rule: > $(CC) $(OPTION_OBJECT_ONLY) $(CFLAGS) $(ROM_FLAGS_EXTRA) $< -o $@ >After doing that, delete the standard Tornado romStart.c file. >You can now customize the romStart.c file. In particular, in each >instance of romStart() (there are several versions using #ifdef to >select the proper one), I inserted a call to a new function startCP(), >which I added to romStart.c. In my startCP() function, I do my startup >logic (including validating my Control Program): if it is invalid or >other criteria fail, I simply return and the remainder of romStart() >runs, starting my BootROM mainline, which allows loading a new CP. >If the Control Program is valid and the other logic says to run the CP, >I copy it from ROM into RAM and run it instead of the BootROM mainline. >To make this work properly you need: >1) A way to validate your Control Program. >2) A way of knowing where your CP starts in ROM, where it should be loaded > in RAM, and where to jump to (start of execution). The default > location to jump to is the copy destination address. >In a nutshell, I simply copied my CP code into the RAM execution space >rather than copying the normal application code (i.e. my BootROM mainline) >into RAM. After that, everything works normally. >To make the CP, I build it as a standalone "vxWorks" target. This >eliminates the romStart() and copy function, which I've provided by >my hacked BootROM. I also changed my CP's ROM_BASE_ADR (Macros tab) >to load it into my CP storage area in ROM. Tornado then builds and >links the CP to load into ROM_BASE_ADR but run starting at RAM_LOW_ADR >which is where I copy it to in my hacked romStart(). >gvb >-- >+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| Jerry Van Baren / vanbaren_gerald@si.com / Grand Rapids Mi / 616-241-7973 | >| My employer is a company. Companies are artifacts of a legal system. | >|________________Artifacts are incapable of having opinions.________________| - -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jerry Van Baren / vanbaren_gerald@si.com / Grand Rapids Mi / 616-241-7973 | | My employer is a company. Companies are artifacts of a legal system. | |________________Artifacts are incapable of having opinions.________________| --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: UDP eating mbufs!!! Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:34:04 +0100 From: Uwe Gerger Organization: Daimler-Benz Aerospace Message-ID: <3AB24E8C.71E7ED0A@vs.dasa.de> Hi, each time when sending UDP-packets with "sendto" the parameters "SONAME" and "DATA" are increased until the max. size of mbufs is reached(400). I can see this by invoking "mbufShow". When max. limit is reached the board is hanging on and is no more reacheable over the network. Does "SONAME" means "socket name" ? What can I do? Does anyone know a work-around? Thanks in advance Uwe Gerger --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: SM Networks and VxMP Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:25:35 GMT From: cgan@iders.ca Organization: MTS Internet Message-ID: <3ab267e3.845305@200.123.101.100> Just a simple question, if you wanted to use shared memory networks in VxWorks, does it require that you purchase the VxMP option? Thanks! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: One module not syncing symbols with host symbol table Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:50:23 GMT From: "Barry Kelly" Organization: NBTel Internet Message-ID: <38us6.13763$br1.136512@sodalite.nbnet.nb.ca> References: <3AB1301D.B56F369@raytheon.com> Wow! So many questions! > > Questions: > 1. Does the kernel symbols sync up? > Does the kernel show up in moduleShow list? Yes, and I did a lkup "Show" and I get several hits. > 2. Is the host target server (tgtsrv) running during the boot? Yes. I made a point of connecting with the Host shell before the first loadModule() call occurred. > 3. The (first) module is in a format that HAS symbols? Yes, If I lkup "Random", for example, in the serial shell, I find the function in the symbol table > 4. The loadModule call symbols option specifies which > type of symbols to be loaded (none? global? all?) I use GLOBAL for all: i = (int) loadModule(fd,LOAD_GLOBAL_SYMBOLS); > 5. Have you tried the Tornado module browser? Nope. > 6. Do any of the modules have duplicate names? > (like "vxworks") Nope, rtl_OS.t2, PS5Loader.out, VidDrv.out,.... > 7. What flavor of Tornado and VxWorks are you using? It's Tornado II NT4 host and vxWorks 5.4 Pentium build running on a MediaGx board I don't have time to try any of your suggestions today, but I'll get on it Monday. Thanks for your well-thought-out and thorough response! > I've done a similar thing using startup scripts with no problems. > > There are some IP connection related issues with sym sync in the FAQ... > and some sym sync timeout issues... but my experience with these is > that they result in an all or none sym sync > > You might try adding some "ping" and "ifShow" calls to your usrAppInit > to see if there is a network issue of some type ... > > One last straw to chase... It might be related to sockets or other > filedescriptor related resources being used up by target processing > that immediately follows the 1st load... > > -- > Edsel A. Harrell, Jr (voice) (972) 575-6468 (email) eah@raytheon.com > Sr Principal Systems Eng/honors (pager) (972) 558-4204 (numeric numbers only) > Raytheon Systems Company (snail) 6600 Chase Oaks Blvd, MS 8454, Plano, Tx 75023 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------- > "Proofread Carefully to See if You Any Words Out" > > DISCLAIMER: I speak only for myself, not my employer. > EXCEPTION: If any of my ideas are worth more than $0.02, then they are > property of my employer. > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: One module not syncing symbols with host symbol table Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:11:04 GMT From: kimp@avtecinc.com (Kim Putnam) Organization: Info Avenue Internet Services Message-ID: <3ab27291.27473296@192.168.1.214> References: Don't know if this will help, but I had similar problems and found some help in the archives. Apparently there is some problem with TornadII, tornado registry and syncing up the host/target. I had to change my registry from local to remote. K On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:49:26 GMT, "Barry Kelly" wrote: >This is a simple and easily reproducable problem. > >From usrAppInit(), we loadModule() a module and spawn a function contained >within which, in turn, loads several driver modules via loadModule() and >spawns each driver accordingly. > >This works great. However, in the development scenario (i.e. not >standalone), we want the host symbol table to sync up all global symbols as >these modules are loaded by the target. > >All modules, except the first, are sync'ed up with the host!?!? > >I have a serial shell connected to the target as well as a development shell >and I don't get any "unresolved symbol" messages during any of the >loadModule() calls. If I do moduleShow() on the target, all modules are >listed. If I do moduleShow() on the development shell, the first module >loaded is not in the list. > >I added a 10 second taskDelay() just prior to the first loadModule() call in >the usrAppInit() thinking that maybe the host needs some time to prepare for >symbol-table sync'ing but it didn't help. > >Any thoughts? > >Barry > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: TFFS on PPMC750 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:38:58 -0600 From: "S Johnson" Message-ID: <3ab314e6.0@windy.powercom.net> References: <98nglj$3ot$1@newshost.mot.com> The Artesyn PM/PPC's (PPC750) BSP supports TFFS. "Venkatesh JS" wrote in message news:98nglj$3ot$1@newshost.mot.com... > hi. > > Has any one tried including TFFS component on PPMC750 board ? I have MTD and > socket layer code for AMD series NOR flash devices which holds good for > flash device on PPMC750 card(Am29DL323C). This MTD uses Common Flash > Interface(CFI) to program the flash. We can get device and manufacturer > details from flash device by sending some command sequences on some > specified address(Given in Command defination tables in AMD product > literature). But my code fails to get this detail. After writing command > sequences , when i try to read the result i am not able to get any valid > information. > > My MTD code uses this logic to write command sequence: > > WriteCmdSequence(FLASH_BASE_ADRS,0x00aa00aa, 0x555) > { > adrs = FLASH_BASE_ADRS + 8 * (0x555); > > *adrs = 0x00aa00aa; > } > > Here 0x00aa00aa is command sequence defined by AMD and 0x555 is address > specified by AMD product guide. > > I have given flash base address as 0xfff00000. > > Does any one know how solve this problem ? > > After a recent suggestion, i tried writing into PPMC750 mapped addresses for > flash address.(Given in PPMC750 programmers manual). that is if flash > address is 0x000555, then i wrote at 0xff000d55 etc. This also did not work. > > Any ideas on this ? > > > regds, > venkat > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: SM Networks and VxMP Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:01:39 GMT From: "Jeff Creem" Organization: Road Runner Message-ID: References: <3ab267e3.845305@200.123.101.100> If you are just using the Sm networking stuff (which supports network op like TCP and UDP over the backplane) then no you do not need VxMP. Note that while this is a useful feature for many reasons it should not be counted on for high bandwidth communications between processors. wrote in message news:3ab267e3.845305@200.123.101.100... > Just a simple question, if you wanted to use shared memory networks in > VxWorks, does it require that you purchase the VxMP option? > > Thanks! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Task Hook Switch Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:16:48 +0000 (UTC) From: charly Organization: Guest of France-Teaser Message-ID: <2001316-17530-317221@foorum.com> References: I tried to save data in a ringBuffer. It works fine. - ------ User of http://www.foorum.com/. The best tools for usenet searching. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: SM Networks and VxMP Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:07:38 GMT From: cgan@iders.ca (Christian Gan) Organization: MTS Internet Message-ID: <3ab28dc1.10539645@200.123.101.100> References: <3ab267e3.845305@200.123.101.100> Howdy, From past experiences, can anyone tell me what a typical transfer rate across the VME is with the sm network? Tjanks! On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:01:39 GMT, "Jeff Creem" wrote: >If you are just using the Sm networking stuff (which supports network op >like TCP and UDP over the backplane) then no you do not need VxMP. > >Note that while this is a useful feature for many reasons it should not be >counted on for high bandwidth communications between processors. > > > wrote in message news:3ab267e3.845305@200.123.101.100... >> Just a simple question, if you wanted to use shared memory networks in >> VxWorks, does it require that you purchase the VxMP option? >> >> Thanks! > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.realtime,comp.os.vxworks Subject: Processor speed Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:29:36 -0500 From: viv Organization: Lucent Technologies, Columbus, Ohio Message-ID: <3AB2A1E0.38F8B82F@lucent.com> How can I find out the processor speed in VxWorks? I know its a PowerPC but don't know its speed. thanks, viv --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: SM Networks and VxMP Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 01:37:48 GMT From: "Jeff Creem" Organization: Road Runner Message-ID: References: <3ab267e3.845305@200.123.101.100> <3ab28dc1.10539645@200.123.101.100> It depends on the specific target board and architecture but as it turns out something around 1 - 1.5 megabyte per second is pretty typical . In addition, the CPU load hit for doing this can be pretty high since typically no DMA engines are used to support the transfers. For example, on the MIPS platform, the bcopy routine would typically fall back to doing the VME transfers with byte accesses due to the non-aligned nature of the typical buffers that end up being used. The default bcopy in vxworks on MIPS did not do any sort of byte gathering so the performance was pretty poor. We replaced the bcopy with own own modified version and got the performance up but for real-time board to board stuff we used our own combination of DMA transfers and normal IO optimized for 32 bit aligned and lengthed messages. We still invested the time to get the sm network stuff working better (with our own bcopy) since for integration/debug we needed to be able to do network connections to multiple processors on the backplane through a single processor's Ethernet/ "Christian Gan" wrote in message news:3ab28dc1.10539645@200.123.101.100... > Howdy, > > From past experiences, can anyone tell me what a typical transfer rate > across the VME is with the sm network? > > Tjanks! > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:01:39 GMT, "Jeff Creem" > wrote: > > >If you are just using the Sm networking stuff (which supports network op > >like TCP and UDP over the backplane) then no you do not need VxMP. > > > >Note that while this is a useful feature for many reasons it should not be > >counted on for high bandwidth communications between processors. > > > > > > wrote in message news:3ab267e3.845305@200.123.101.100... > >> Just a simple question, if you wanted to use shared memory networks in > >> VxWorks, does it require that you purchase the VxMP option? > >> > >> Thanks! > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Equal cost routing Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:12:58 -0800 From: Rajiv Narayan Organization: Qualcomm Inc. Message-ID: <3AB2C82A.5A2384CA@qualcomm.com> Hi, If I have multiple routes to the same destination via multiple interfaces, vxWorks chooses only one interface to send all the packets meant for that destination. Is there any way I can implement equal cost routing ? ( split packets evenly across these interfaces.) Any ideas would be of great help. TIA, - -rajiv --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: dosFs-2 + vxSim Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 02:31:01 GMT From: andreyk@home.com (Andray Kaganovsky) Organization: @Home Message-ID: Hello world, I am looking for a way to build custom VxWorks simulator (vxSim) with complete dosFs-2 configuration linked in. Unfortunately all dosFs-2 components appear in Project facility as not installed. Does anybody know if dosFs-2 actually exist for VxSim (simpc BSP) ? If it does, do I need to get license key specifically for dosFs-2/simpc (as I did for dosFs-2/x86 and dosFs-2/ppc) ? I am using Tornado 2.02, Win2000 host. Thanks in advance, Andray --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: vxworks test Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:59:37 +0800 From: "lhp" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <98va01$fno$1@overload.lbl.gov> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C0AF03.A5FF0450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 dnh3b3JrcyB0ZXN0DQo= - ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C0AF03.A5FF0450 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PCFET0NUWVBFIEhUTUwgUFVCTElDICItLy9XM0MvL0RURCBIVE1MIDQuMCBUcmFuc2l0aW9uYWwv L0VOIj4NCjxIVE1MPjxIRUFEPg0KPE1FVEEgY29udGVudD0idGV4dC9odG1sOyBjaGFyc2V0PWdi MjMxMiIgaHR0cC1lcXVpdj1Db250ZW50LVR5cGU+DQo8TUVUQSBjb250ZW50PSJNU0hUTUwgNS4w MC4yMDE0LjIxMCIgbmFtZT1HRU5FUkFUT1I+DQo8U1RZTEU+PC9TVFlMRT4NCjwvSEVBRD4NCjxC T0RZIGJnQ29sb3I9I2ZmZmZmZj4NCjxESVY+PEZPTlQgc2l6ZT0yPnZ4d29ya3MgdGVzdDwvRk9O VD48L0RJVj48L0JPRFk+PC9IVE1MPg0K - ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C0AF03.A5FF0450-- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: vxworks test Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:15:00 +0800 From: "lhp" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <98vdgg$hlf$1@overload.lbl.gov> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C0AF05.CC794210 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 dnh3b3JrcyB0ZXN0DQo= - ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C0AF05.CC794210 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PCFET0NUWVBFIEhUTUwgUFVCTElDICItLy9XM0MvL0RURCBIVE1MIDQuMCBUcmFuc2l0aW9uYWwv L0VOIj4NCjxIVE1MPjxIRUFEPg0KPE1FVEEgY29udGVudD0idGV4dC9odG1sOyBjaGFyc2V0PWdi MjMxMiIgaHR0cC1lcXVpdj1Db250ZW50LVR5cGU+DQo8TUVUQSBjb250ZW50PSJNU0hUTUwgNS4w MC4yMDE0LjIxMCIgbmFtZT1HRU5FUkFUT1I+DQo8U1RZTEU+PC9TVFlMRT4NCjwvSEVBRD4NCjxC T0RZIGJnQ29sb3I9I2ZmZmZmZj4NCjxESVY+PEZPTlQgc2l6ZT0yPnZ4d29ya3MgdGVzdDwvRk9O VD48L0RJVj48L0JPRFk+PC9IVE1MPg0K - ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C0AF05.CC794210-- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: vxworks test Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:17:44 +0800 From: "lhp" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <98vdgg$hlg$1@overload.lbl.gov> vxworks test --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: vxworks test Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:19:53 +0800 From: "lhp" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <98vdgh$hlh$1@overload.lbl.gov> vxworks test --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Need Info on End Driver FCC support for Ethernet connections... Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:05:29 GMT From: Daniel Bermudez Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: Hi, Our development unit found a silicon problem with the FCC support for the FastEthernet and the way it services interrupts. Our 'patch' solution is to force the EndDriver to be configured into Poll Mode. ASIS, CA , who is the silicon manufacturer for the FCC controller in the Motorola 8260 processor, says that their silicon drivers have only been tested using the EndDriver's interrupt support alone and not with the WindRiver's "Polling Mode" support. Need help in either of the following areas; 1- How to use and configure correctly the WindRiver/VxWorks EndDriver Polling mechanism for the FCC FastEthernet. or 2- How to commence an FCC driver initialization and setup with the routines and macros in the EndDriver, NetBuf and IF support files. My intention here is to 'Unload' the VxWorks initial Ethernet configuration and and create mine where I intend to bypass the FCC interrupt to the core processor and run a "Polling Task" at the same priority level as NetTask. I will also appreciate directions and notes on where to find information and examples I can use to illustrate myself. Please direct replys to both this newsgroup and daniel.bermudez@genband.com. Thanks in advance, - -Dan --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Problem with Sockets : Files is not closed when one task is deleted Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:31:34 +0800 From: "Colin.chen" Organization: The news server of Changzhou TeleCom Message-ID: <991oda$t02$1@news.cz.js.cn> References: <3AAC56F1.9B03E57B@bell-labs.com> Hi, In vxworks, the task is just like a thread, not the process. So when the task is deleted, the files opened by the task will not be closed automatically. Some other mechanism should be provided by the APP. Best regards. Colin.chen "Navneeth" wrote in message news:3AAC56F1.9B03E57B@bell-labs.com... > Thanks a lot for the Solution on Open File Descriptors. It worked > beautifully. > I have another problem with sockets. > My code has to run on two platforms, VxWorks and SUN Solaris with a > client - server Architecture. With a TCP Connection, when I kill the > application on Solaris, the application on VxWorks gets to know of it > i.e. Connection Close handshake is completed. But when I do a td (Task > Delete) on VxWorks, the Application on Solaris does not get any > information. Is this because even though the task has been killed, the > socket is still Open and Connected on VxWorks? Is this possible? > MoreOver the port associated with the socket on VxWorks sometimes goes > to FIN_WAIT2 state. This is an indication that the handshake has not ben > completed. Please explain as to how a graceful closure of the connection > can be made on both sides when I want to kill the task running on > VxWorks. Does something else other than just td need to be done? > > Thanks in Advance > Regards > Navneeth > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: visionclick beats singlestep? Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:07:02 From: "Thomas Barkley" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <992fuf$95b$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hello everyone, First our environment: MPC860 on an MDP8xxPro board. VXWORKS 5.4 Tornado 2.0 I am using the single-step debugger but I am trying to trace some low level problems. I have a visionICE II unit hooked up, and I would like to use visionCLICK to debug a Tornado "Downloadable application". When I start VisionClick, I explicitly run from 0xff000100. I think that this gets the boot ROM to execute. Now I am stuck - how do I get the vxworks image to start execution and later on do a download of my xxx.out file? Do you think that I will get more accurate control of Interrupts etc. with VisionClick? Thanks in advance, Thomas Barkley. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Break Loop(vxWorks). Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:25:08 +0530 From: "Krishna Kishore Reddy Sureddy" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99415e$8hj$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi vxWorks Gurus, I have a for loop in "C". for(i =0 ; i< N; i++); { /* If any key is pressed break out of Loop */ } If a user presses some key(keyboard) before "N times", then i have to come out of the Loop. For this there is "khbit()" in windows. But how to acheive the same in "vxWorks" Thanks and Regards, S.K.K.Reddy. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: visionclick beats singlestep? Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 07:54:41 -0000 From: "Kelvin Lawson" Message-ID: <994dsd$4f6dt$1@ID-56276.news.dfncis.de> References: <992fuf$95b$1@overload.lbl.gov> > Now I am stuck - how do I get the vxworks image to start execution and later > on do a download of my xxx.out file? As far as I know you cannot download a .out file once the VxWorks image is running and use vCLICK to debug. You will have to link your application in with the VxWorks image, and create a vCLICK symbol file for the whole image. You can then either set the program counter to the reset vector (FFF00100 ?) and hit go - it should run through the bootrom and eventually boot VxWorks. Or you can make a .bdx file and download it straight into RAM without a bootrom. Kelvin. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Please include my Email ID Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:59:05 +0530 From: "Vijay Kumar S" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <994f7e$ifc$1@overload.lbl.gov> Please include my mail ID to send your news letters about VxWorks. Thanks & Regards, Vijay - -- *********************************************************************** S. Vijay Kumar, Software Engineer, Embedded & Internet Access Solutions, WIPRO Technologies, 30, 1st Main, S.R. Nagar, Mission Road, Bangalore - 560027 Phone: 91-80-2241730 / 2275590 Extn: 1439. *********************************************************************** --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Equal cost routing Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:40:59 +0800 From: "Ren Hantao" Organization: Lucent Technologies, Columbus, Ohio Message-ID: <994k0l$m27@nntpb.cb.lucent.com> References: <3AB2C82A.5A2384CA@qualcomm.com> Chang the route table dynamically? Seemed not a good way cause changing route table for every serveral packets is so unefficient. Or modify the TCP/IP stack? but you should get the source code first. Ren Hantao "Rajiv Narayan" wrote in message news:3AB2C82A.5A2384CA@qualcomm.com... > Hi, > > If I have multiple routes to the same destination via multiple > interfaces, > vxWorks chooses only one interface to send all the packets meant for > that > destination. Is there any way I can implement equal cost routing ? ( > split > packets evenly across these interfaces.) > Any ideas would be of great help. > > TIA, > -rajiv > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Socket structure Date: 19 Mar 2001 03:09:58 -0800 From: rsrinivasarao@123india.com Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <994pov$nhj$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi vxWorks gurus, How do I retreieve socket structure from the socket id returned by socket call. Is vxWorks provides any direct call or is there any indirect method to retreieve. Thanks & Regards Srini ______________________________________________________ 123India.com - India's Premier Portal Get your Free Email Account at http://www.123india.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: One module not syncing symbols with host symbol table Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:08:42 GMT From: "Barry Kelly" Organization: NBTel Internet Message-ID: References: <3ab27291.27473296@192.168.1.214> I had that same problem about a year ago and resolved it in the same way, thanks anyway. "Kim Putnam" wrote in message news:3ab27291.27473296@192.168.1.214... > Don't know if this will help, but I had similar problems and found > some help in the archives. Apparently there is some problem with > TornadII, tornado registry and syncing up the host/target. > > I had to change my registry from local to remote. > > K > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:49:26 GMT, "Barry Kelly" > wrote: > > >This is a simple and easily reproducable problem. > > > >From usrAppInit(), we loadModule() a module and spawn a function contained > >within which, in turn, loads several driver modules via loadModule() and > >spawns each driver accordingly. > > > >This works great. However, in the development scenario (i.e. not > >standalone), we want the host symbol table to sync up all global symbols as > >these modules are loaded by the target. > > > >All modules, except the first, are sync'ed up with the host!?!? > > > >I have a serial shell connected to the target as well as a development shell > >and I don't get any "unresolved symbol" messages during any of the > >loadModule() calls. If I do moduleShow() on the target, all modules are > >listed. If I do moduleShow() on the development shell, the first module > >loaded is not in the list. > > > >I added a 10 second taskDelay() just prior to the first loadModule() call in > >the usrAppInit() thinking that maybe the host needs some time to prepare for > >symbol-table sync'ing but it didn't help. > > > >Any thoughts? > > > >Barry > > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: IDMA sample for MPC860 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:54:13 From: "Thomas Barkley" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <994t9e$oop$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hello everyone, First our environment: MPC860 on an MDP8xxPro board. VXWORKS 5.4 Tornado 2.0 I am developing a set of functions for IDMA. I have looked for sample code that programs the 860 registers and the tundra QSPAN registers, but I have not found any. I have worked with DMA already (on a different platform) and I know the frustrations that I am likely to hit. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated, Thanks in advance, Thomas Barkley. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: T2 NT and several architectures Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:45:12 +0000 (UTC) From: Fab Organization: Guest of France-Teaser Message-ID: <2001319-14713-13283@foorum.com> Hello We use Tornado 2 (NT host) for both mc68k and x86 architectures (each version of T2 is installed into separate directory). I can't (but i would like to...) create a build based on a second architecure in the same application project. I have to duplicate an existing project (in a new directory), delete then create a new build for this project. Any help/experience would be apreciated for this ! TIA Fab __________________________________________________________ Ce message a été posté via la plateforme Web club-Internet.fr This message has been posted by the Web platform club-Internet.fr http://forums.club-internet.fr/ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what's objLib? Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:51:53 -0500 From: Keith Arner Organization: Marconi Message-ID: References: <98ldn6$s7r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <984518665.536737@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <98o8n9$l7k$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Reply-To: Keith Arner On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Dave Korn wrote: > The value of errno is only valid immediately after you get an ERROR > code returned from some kernel function. If the function returns OK, > errno might or might not have a value in it, but you *must* ignore it. > > It isn't important, but I *think* that the 0x3d0001/2 error happens > somewhere deep in the inner levels of ioLib. In my experience, 0x3d0002 is normal. Something did a semTake() with a timeout. However, 0x3d0001 is usually a sign of something having gone wrong -- you passed a pointer to something, but have lost track of the state of that something. For example, if two tasks are sharing a SEM_ID, and one of the tasks attempts to semTake() that SEM_ID after the other has done a semDelete(), you are going to get 0x3d0001. As you said, you need to catch errno at the point of return from a system call, so tracking it down after you see it appear in the output of i() is a waste of time. However, it's probably worth the effort to figure out why you are getting 0x3d0001 in the first place. Keith - -- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: GNU tar Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:41:59 -0500 From: "Garner, David (N-Progeny Systems Corp)" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <995lsu$kna$1@overload.lbl.gov> VxWorks Tornado Has anyone out there ported GNU tar to vxworks? I've downloaded the source from gnu.org and it looks like it will be a fairly significant job to build it for vxworks. Thanks for any help, Dave Garner @Lockheed Martin --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Break Loop(vxWorks). Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:03:43 -0800 From: "Randy Schafer" Message-ID: <3ab664bc$1_1@news.pacifier.com> References: <99415e$8hj$1@overload.lbl.gov> <994jbe$m16@nntpb.cb.lucent.com> Why not use ioctl with the FIONREAD on stdin (fd == 0) to see if there are any characters ready to be read? - -- Randy Schafer Sr.Software Engineer Cinta Corportaion randy.schafer@cinta-corp.com Ren Hantao wrote in message news:994jbe$m16@nntpb.cb.lucent.com... > I wrote a example.... > > #include "stdio.h" > #include "ioLib.h" > #include "taskLib.h" > #include "ioStream.h" > > void kbHit(void); > char keyPress = FALSE; > > void test(void) > { > int i=0; > taskSpawn("kbHit",20, 0, 1000, (FUNCPTR)kbHit, 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0); > for (;;) > { > cout << i++ << endl; > if (keyPress == TRUE) > { > cout << "Key Pressed!" << endl; > keyPress = FALSE; > } > taskDelay(120); > } > } > > void kbHit(void) > { > int inputFd; > char ch; > inputFd = ioGlobalStdGet(0); > for(;;) > { > read(inputFd, &ch, 1); > keyPress = TRUE; > } > } > > Ren Hantao > Bell Labs China > > "Krishna Kishore Reddy Sureddy" wrote in > message news:99415e$8hj$1@overload.lbl.gov... > > Hi vxWorks Gurus, > > I have a for loop in "C". > > for(i =0 ; i< N; i++); > > { > > /* If any key is pressed break out of Loop */ > > } > > If a user presses some key(keyboard) before "N times", then i have to > > come out of the Loop. > > For this there is "khbit()" in windows. > > But how to acheive the same in "vxWorks" > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > S.K.K.Reddy. > > > > > > > "Krishna Kishore Reddy Sureddy" wrote in > message news:99415e$8hj$1@overload.lbl.gov... > > Hi vxWorks Gurus, > > I have a for loop in "C". > > for(i =0 ; i< N; i++); > > { > > /* If any key is pressed break out of Loop */ > > } > > If a user presses some key(keyboard) before "N times", then i have to > > come out of the Loop. > > For this there is "khbit()" in windows. > > But how to acheive the same in "vxWorks" > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > S.K.K.Reddy. > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: StrataFlash low level drivers Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:02:18 -0500 From: Bill Fulton Organization: Raytheon Company Message-ID: <3AB665CA.4F8148EF@raytheon.com> References: <906jfn$do6$1@overload.lbl.gov> <908k4j$dm5$1@nnrp1.deja.com> I had the same problem and found that the problem was a low-level flash interface problem (and there was no way to tell that from the tffsDevFormat() call results - this was confirmed by WRS tech "support".) I had to debug at the sockets layer, to find out where the error(s) were. When I flushed out all the socket interface layer bugs, the tffsDevFormat() worked. Basically; get it to the point that you don't have any error messages from the socket layer, and it seems to work ok There are a good many debug statements in the cfiscs.c file - I just turned them on, and added a few of my own, to track down the problem. I left the error (as opposed to debug info) messages enabled in cfiscs.c - this has turned out to be *very* helpful during development. It would be very nice if any low-level (socket layer) problems were somehow passed up the to the higher layers, so that you could get a meaningful response from the API-layer calls. But, then, it has been my experience that, if an error occurs at a lower software layer, all bets are off (we have frequent vxWorks hang conditions due to this problem). Our board has multiple flash chips, and I also found it helpful to be able to limit the number of flash chips used (because we had chip-location-specific hardware problems). I got it to work with a single chip, first (our chips are 4MB each). Good luck ('fraid you'll need it), Bill Kevin Dodd wrote: > I have gotten almost all the strataflash writing, fixing a bug in the WRS > code, however I have a problem doing a format, it seems to perform ok, yet > returns with a failure. I can send you the code to talk to the strataflash, > and if someone can help me get the tffsdevformat working, I could really use > the help. > > "Jie Ma" wrote in message > news:Jz7X5.17627$rr3.793113@news... > > Hi Parreg and Tim: > > > > This is very interesting issue because I am going to do the exactly same > > things. > > > > In page 58 of the TFFS document, TrueFFS for Tornado Programmer's Guide > 1.0 > > Edition2, it states that the MTD supports CFI. But it doesn't mention > > anything about TFFS socket layer. I called wind river. They tald me that I > > need to write our own TFFS socket layer for CFI flash. > > > > The document also mentioned that the jont CFI specification is addopted by > > Intel. However, I only see the general CFI driver package. The question > is: > > how to fit the Intel general CFI driver into TFFS socket layer? Is there a > > easy way or different version of CFI to make TFFS socket layer? > > > > I havn't contact Intel yet, and I am going to. > > > > Would you mind share your more detailed information? > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > Jie > > > > wrote in message news:908k4j$dm5$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > > > In article <906jfn$do6$1@overload.lbl.gov>, > > > "timallen" wrote: > > > > >Has anyone out there written any low level driver software for the > > > > >Intel StrataFlash for integration into the Wind River True File > > > System? > > > > >Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > This shouldn't be necessary since the Intel StrataFlash uses the > > > Common > > > > Flash Interface(CFI) and Scaleable Command Set (SCS) standards which > > > are > > > > supported by TrueFFS. > > > > > > > > Tim. > > > > -------------------- > > > Understood now, Thanks. > > > > Tim Allen Ltd > > > > Real Time Embedded Software Consultancy > > > > VxWorks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > Before you buy. > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: RE: GNU tar Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:13:03 -0800 From: Charles Johnson Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <995pdf$lvf$1@overload.lbl.gov> There is a tar included in the dosFs2.0 patch. Haven't used it, but I know it's there. Charles Johnson Oresis Communications, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: vxwexplo@lbl.gov [mailto:vxwexplo@lbl.gov] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:52 AM To: vxworks_users@csg.lbl.gov Subject: GNU tar Submitted-by vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Mon Mar 19 10:42:09 2001 Submitted-by: "Garner, David (N-Progeny Systems Corp)" VxWorks Tornado Has anyone out there ported GNU tar to vxworks? I've downloaded the source from gnu.org and it looks like it will be a fairly significant job to build it for vxworks. Thanks for any help, Dave Garner @Lockheed Martin ********** This is a user group mailing list for vxWorks related topics see http://www-vxw.lbl.gov/vxworks for posting and other info --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Break Loop(vxWorks). Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:59:59 +0800 From: "Ren Hantao" Organization: Lucent Technologies, Columbus, Ohio Message-ID: <996dcg$64j@nntpb.cb.lucent.com> References: <99415e$8hj$1@overload.lbl.gov> <994jbe$m16@nntpb.cb.lucent.com> <3ab664bc$1_1@news.pacifier.com> Good idea. I modified the code and passed it in the simulator. #include "stdio.h" #include "ioLib.h" #include "taskLib.h" #include "ioStream.h" void test(void) { int inputFd, bytesRead; inputFd = ioGlobalStdGet(0); ioctl (inputFd, FIOSETOPTIONS, OPT_RAW); for (int i=0; i<100; i++) { cout << i << endl; ioctl (inputFd, FIONREAD, (int) &bytesRead); if (bytesRead > 0) { cout << "Key Pressed!" << endl; ioctl (inputFd, FIOFLUSH, 0); } taskDelay(30); } ioctl (inputFd, FIOSETOPTIONS, OPT_TERMINAL); } Ren Hantao 2001/03/20 "Randy Schafer" wrote in message news:3ab664bc$1_1@news.pacifier.com... > Why not use ioctl with the FIONREAD on stdin (fd == 0) to see if there are > any characters ready to be read? > > -- > Randy Schafer > Sr.Software Engineer > Cinta Corportaion > randy.schafer@cinta-corp.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: problem on MCast routing Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:25:53 +0530 From: Sujeet Naik Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <996p1u$7jo$1@overload.lbl.gov> > Hi everyone, > I have a problem on enabling multicast routing on vxworks. I have 2 > interfaces attached to the vxworks. There is one machine on each > interface, and both belong to the same multicast group. Now, I send an > mcast IP packet from one machine.(with TTL more than 1). The vxworks > somehow does not forward it to the other machine(on the other interface), > which has joined the same mcast group. > > I tried enabling the mcast routing component in the vxworks build. But > could not succeed. Anyone has any clues on this problem?? > > Thanks in advance. > > Sujeet --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: writing ISR for com1 Date: 19 Mar 2001 22:35:40 MST From: jyoti deori Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <996sie$9hk$1@overload.lbl.gov> hi i am a beginner in VxWorks .i wanted to overwrite the ISR for COM1(IRQ4) of my pc .I wrote the program in c for DOS it was working fine.then same thing i tried to port into Vxworks for pentium (440 bx board).I did not make much change to the program i used all the same register addresses and interrupt no of DOS for vxworks also .and i used the sysOutByte() command to send data to the registers .My program is compling without any error.but while running it is not at going to ISR code (while sending data from com1). i don't know wheather my method is right or not so i am giving a copy of my code .i have even doubt wheather vxworks is using the same interrupt no for COM1 as in the dos.anybody can help me i will be really grateful to him. thanks in advance - --jyoti prasad deori versabyte data system #include "stdio.h" #include "vxWorks.h" #include "stdlib.h" #include "semLib.h" #include "taskLib.h" #include "sysLib.h" #include "iv.h" #include "intLib.h" #define CPU PENTIUM #define PORT1 0x3F8 /* Port Address Goes Here */ #define INTVECT 0x0C /* Com Port's IRQ here (Must also change PIC setting) */ #define STACK_SIZE 2000 /* Defines Serial Ports Base Address */ /* COM1 0x3F8 */ /* COM2 0x2F8 */ /* COM3 0x3E8 */ /* COM4 0x2E8 */ int bufferin = 0; int bufferout = 0; int tidmyisr; char ch; char buffer[1025]; void myint(); #define STOP 0 #define RUN 1 int state=RUN; FUNCPTR oldPORT1isr; FUNCPTR newPORT1isr; void myPORT1isr(); /* progStart is a routine to replace with my own ISR*/ void progStart(void) { int c1; sysOutByte (PORT1+1,0); /* Turn off interrupts - PORT1 */ oldPORT1isr = intVecGet((FUNCPTR *)INUM_TO_IVEC(INTVECT)); /* Save old Interrupt Vector of later recovery */ newPORT1isr=intHandlerCreate((FUNCPTR)myPORT1isr,0) ; intVecSet((FUNCPTR*)INUM_TO_IVEC(INTVECT), newPORT1isr); /* Set Interrupt Vector Entry */ /* COM1 - 0x0C */ /* COM2 - 0x0B */ /* COM3 - 0x0C */ /* COM4 - 0x0B */ /* PORT 1 - Communication Settings */ sysOutByte(PORT1 + 3 , 0x80); /* SET DLAB ON */ sysOutByte(PORT1 + 0 , 0x0C); /* Set Baud rate - Divisor Latch Low Byte */ /* Default 0x03 = 38,400 BPS */ /* 0x01 = 115,200 BPS */ /* 0x02 = 57,600 BPS */ /* 0x06 = 19,200 BPS */ /* 0x0C = 9,600 BPS */ /* 0x18 = 4,800 BPS */ /* 0x30 = 2,400 BPS */ sysOutByte(PORT1 + 1 , 0x00); /* Set Baud rate - Divisor Latch High Byte */ sysOutByte(PORT1 + 3 , 0x03); /* 8 Bits, No Parity, 1 Stop Bit */ sysOutByte(PORT1 + 2 , 0xC7); /* FIFO Control Register */ sysOutByte(PORT1 + 4 , 0x0B); /* Turn on DTR, RTS, and OUT2 */ sysOutByte(0x21,(sysInByte(0x21) & 0xEF)); /* Set Programmable Interrupt Controller */ /* COM1 (IRQ4) - 0xEF */ /* COM2 (IRQ3) - 0xF7 */ /* COM3 (IRQ4) - 0xEF */ /* COM4 (IRQ3) - 0xF7 */ sysOutByte(PORT1 + 1 , 0x01); /* Interrupt when data received */ do { if (bufferin != bufferout) { logMsg("Inside do",0,0,0,0,0,0); ch = buffer[bufferout]; bufferout++; if (bufferout == 1024) { bufferout = 0; } logMsg("%c ",ch,0,0,0,0,0); continue; } scanf("%c", &ch); logMsg("%c ",ch,0,0,0,0,0); sysOutByte(PORT1, ch); } while (ch!=27); sysOutByte(PORT1 + 1 , 0); /* Turn off interrupts - PORT1 */ sysOutByte(0x21,(sysInByte(0x21) | 0x10)); /* MASK IRQ using PIC */ /* COM1 (IRQ4) - 0x10 */ /* COM2 (IRQ3) - 0x08 */ /* COM3 (IRQ4) - 0x10 */ /* COM4 (IRQ3) - 0x08 */ intVecSet((FUNCPTR *)INUM_TO_IVEC(INTVECT), oldPORT1isr); /* Restore old interrupt vector */ } void myPORT1isr() /* Interrupt Service Routine (ISR) for PORT1 */ { int c; do { c = sysInByte(PORT1 + 5); if (c & 1) { buffer[bufferin] = sysInByte(PORT1); bufferin++; if (bufferin == 1024) { bufferin = 0; } } }while (c & 1); sysOutByte(0x20,0x20); } ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Blocking terminal i/o Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 07:28:00 GMT From: mdierikx@gti-group.com (mdi@gti) Organization: EuroNet Internet Message-ID: <3ab7062f.1424298@194.134.193.17> References: <3aae6672.637136@news.euronet.nl> <984518799.327886@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> Reply-To: postmaster@localhost On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:21:54 +0100, "Werner Schiendl" wrote: >Isn't this the default setting? Should be I think. >Which platform and BSP and serial controller are you using? I486 with an 8 port hostess card. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Tornado-query Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:06:21 +0530 From: "Siddharth KarniK" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99773v$et3$1@overload.lbl.gov> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0230_01C0B07D.C6B316C0" - ------=_NextPart_000_0230_01C0B07D.C6B316C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello vxworkers, I have joined your group today.I felt very excited seeing the quality of = information flowing through this list. I have one query.This is same as listed by libor(Waszniowski) message = id-<3A26A92B.F13304A5@lab.felk.cvut.cz> The query goes as follows: When I map an interrupt (Irq-9) to an ISR the system hangs and the ISR = does not get serviced.The mapping is done as follows- (pciIntConnect(INUM_TO_IVEC(data),(VOIDFUNCPTR)HcdISR,NULL) with data as 36 Tornado version I am using is 2.0 and target is PENTIUM As said earlier the problem is similar to one posted but I did not find = any solution that will help in solving the problem. Can anybody give me the solution? Regards Siddharth - ------=_NextPart_000_0230_01C0B07D.C6B316C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

hello vxworkers,
 
I have joined your group today.I felt = very excited=20 seeing the quality of information flowing through this = list.
I have one query.This is same as listed = by=20 libor(Waszniowski) message id-<3A26A92B.F13304A5@lab.= felk.cvut.cz>
The query goes as follows:
When I map an interrupt (Irq-9) to an = ISR the=20 system hangs and the ISR does not get serviced.The mapping is done as=20 follows-
 (pciIntConnect(INUM_TO_IVEC(data),(VOIDFUNCPTR)HcdISR,NULL= )
with data as 36
Tornado version I am using is 2.0 and target is PENTIUM
As said earlier the problem is similar = to one=20 posted  but I did not find any solution that will help in solving = the=20 problem.
Can anybody give me the = solution?
 
Regards
Siddharth
- ------=_NextPart_000_0230_01C0B07D.C6B316C0-- - --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary-- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: How to change the stack size of tNetTask ? Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:24:56 GMT From: "jskim" Organization: Dacom Message-ID: The tNetTask stack is overflowed at my target. How to chanage the stack size ? --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Problem with SIGNALS Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:44:18 +0530 From: "viveks" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <000e01c0b12e$e863f210$1605a8c0@future.futsoft.com> Hi VxWorks Guru's I am having some problem with (POSIX)signals in VxWorks. If any one can help me out?? Thanks in advance. I am using Tornado 2 Simuator for NT. Here is the code I tried. I run test from the shell as a task. But as soon as the timer expires I get a GPF with values PC = 0x0041F876 SR = 0x00010202 error no. : 0xC0002 #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #define SIGNAL_NUMBER 25 void my_handler(timer_t timerid,int arg ) { printf("I am In handler\n"); } void test() { char buff[25]; struct itimerspec Value, Value1; timer_t Timer; struct timespec tp; struct sigaction sigact; tp.tv_sec = 100; tp.tv_nsec = 100; Value.it_interval.tv_sec = Value.it_interval.tv_nsec = 0; Value.it_value.tv_sec = 10; Value.it_value.tv_nsec = 30; if( clock_settime (CLOCK_REALTIME, &tp) != OK) perror("Clocl_settime"); if (timer_create(CLOCK_REALTIME, NULL, &Timer) == ERROR) { printf("Create Timer Error \n"); } printf("executing signal \n"); sigact.sa_u.__sa_handler = (void *)my_handler; sigact.sa_mask = 0; sigact.sa_flags = SA_NOCLDSTOP; if (timer_settime(Timer, NULL, (const struct itimerspec * )&Value, (struct itimerspec *)NULL) == ERROR) { perror("timer_settime Error \n"); } if (sigaction(SIGALRM,&sigact ,NULL) != OK) printf("Fatal Error"); while(1) { printf(" I am In Test \n"); gets(buff); /* delayed state */ } } --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: writing ISR for com1 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:13:46 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <985094320.238385@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <996sie$9hk$1@overload.lbl.gov> You mention the problem yourself, VxWorks does use other interrupt numbers. For default pcXxx BSPs, I think they start at 0x20. However, you need not care since INUM_TO_IVEC already does the job for you. Just pass it 4, the number of the interrupt you wish to handle. Then your program should work. Make sure, no other software or driver of VxWorks connects to the interrupt (especially, after you did) hth werner "jyoti deori" wrote in message news:996sie$9hk$1@overload.lbl.gov... > > > > hi > i am a beginner in VxWorks .i wanted to overwrite the ISR for COM1(IRQ4) of > my pc .I wrote the program in c for DOS it was working fine.then same thing i > tried to port into Vxworks for pentium (440 bx board).I did not make much > change to the program i used all the same register addresses and interrupt no > of DOS for vxworks also .and i used the sysOutByte() command to send data to > the registers .My program is compling without any error.but while running it > is not at going to ISR code (while sending data from com1). > i don't know wheather my method is right or not so i am giving a copy of my > code .i have even doubt wheather vxworks is using the same interrupt no for > COM1 as in the dos.anybody can help me i will be really grateful > to him. > thanks in advance > --jyoti prasad deori > versabyte data system > > > > > > > > > #include "stdio.h" > #include "vxWorks.h" > #include "stdlib.h" > #include "semLib.h" > #include "taskLib.h" > #include "sysLib.h" > #include "iv.h" > #include "intLib.h" > > #define CPU PENTIUM > #define PORT1 0x3F8 /* Port Address Goes Here */ > #define INTVECT 0x0C /* Com Port's IRQ here (Must also change PIC setting) */ > #define STACK_SIZE 2000 > > /* Defines Serial Ports Base Address */ > /* COM1 0x3F8 */ > /* COM2 0x2F8 */ > /* COM3 0x3E8 */ > /* COM4 0x2E8 */ > > int bufferin = 0; > int bufferout = 0; > int tidmyisr; > char ch; > char buffer[1025]; > void myint(); > > #define STOP 0 > #define RUN 1 > > int state=RUN; > > FUNCPTR oldPORT1isr; > FUNCPTR newPORT1isr; > void myPORT1isr(); > > > > /* progStart is a routine to replace with my own ISR*/ > > void progStart(void) > { > > > int c1; > > > sysOutByte (PORT1+1,0); > /* Turn off interrupts - PORT1 */ > > > > oldPORT1isr = intVecGet((FUNCPTR *)INUM_TO_IVEC(INTVECT)); > /* Save old Interrupt Vector of later recovery */ > > newPORT1isr=intHandlerCreate((FUNCPTR)myPORT1isr,0) ; > > intVecSet((FUNCPTR*)INUM_TO_IVEC(INTVECT), newPORT1isr); /* Set > Interrupt Vector Entry */ > /* COM1 - 0x0C */ > /* COM2 - 0x0B */ > /* COM3 - 0x0C */ > /* COM4 - 0x0B */ > > /* PORT 1 - Communication Settings */ > > sysOutByte(PORT1 + 3 , 0x80); /* SET DLAB ON */ > sysOutByte(PORT1 + 0 , 0x0C); /* Set Baud rate - Divisor Latch Low Byte */ > /* Default 0x03 = 38,400 BPS */ > /* 0x01 = 115,200 BPS */ > /* 0x02 = 57,600 BPS */ > /* 0x06 = 19,200 BPS */ > /* 0x0C = 9,600 BPS */ > /* 0x18 = 4,800 BPS */ > /* 0x30 = 2,400 BPS */ > sysOutByte(PORT1 + 1 , 0x00); /* Set Baud rate - Divisor Latch High Byte */ > sysOutByte(PORT1 + 3 , 0x03); /* 8 Bits, No Parity, 1 Stop Bit */ > sysOutByte(PORT1 + 2 , 0xC7); /* FIFO Control Register */ > sysOutByte(PORT1 + 4 , 0x0B); /* Turn on DTR, RTS, and OUT2 */ > > sysOutByte(0x21,(sysInByte(0x21) & 0xEF)); /* Set Programmable Interrupt > Controller */ > /* COM1 (IRQ4) - 0xEF */ > /* COM2 (IRQ3) - 0xF7 */ > /* COM3 (IRQ4) - 0xEF */ > /* COM4 (IRQ3) - 0xF7 */ > > sysOutByte(PORT1 + 1 , 0x01); /* Interrupt when data received */ > > > do { > > if (bufferin != bufferout) > { > logMsg("Inside do",0,0,0,0,0,0); > > ch = buffer[bufferout]; > bufferout++; > if (bufferout == 1024) > { > bufferout = 0; > } > logMsg("%c ",ch,0,0,0,0,0); > continue; > } > scanf("%c", &ch); > logMsg("%c ",ch,0,0,0,0,0); > sysOutByte(PORT1, ch); > > } > while (ch!=27); > > sysOutByte(PORT1 + 1 , 0); /* Turn off interrupts - PORT1 */ > sysOutByte(0x21,(sysInByte(0x21) | 0x10)); /* MASK IRQ using PIC */ > /* COM1 (IRQ4) - 0x10 */ > /* COM2 (IRQ3) - 0x08 */ > /* COM3 (IRQ4) - 0x10 */ > /* COM4 (IRQ3) - 0x08 */ > > intVecSet((FUNCPTR *)INUM_TO_IVEC(INTVECT), oldPORT1isr); /* Restore old > interrupt vector */ > > > > } > > > > > void myPORT1isr() /* Interrupt Service Routine (ISR) for PORT1 */ > { > int c; > do > { > > c = sysInByte(PORT1 + 5); > if (c & 1) > { > buffer[bufferin] = sysInByte(PORT1); > bufferin++; > if (bufferin == 1024) > { > bufferin = 0; > } > } > }while (c & 1); > sysOutByte(0x20,0x20); > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: loadModule fails on target shell but works with windShell Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:15:39 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <985094432.798249@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: Did you include a target resident symbol table and the target module loader? The windshell does not relly on these features... hth werner "John Fraize" wrote in message news:tbc8898fkode3f@corp.supernews.com... > // what I am doing > ld < "manI_needThisTO_work.o" > > If I build vxWorks.st and try to loadModule I get a failure. > But if I buld vxWorks and do it from a windShell via a target server it > works. > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: T2 NT and several architectures Date: 20 Mar 2001 13:32:03 GMT From: borkhuis@agere.com (Johan Borkhuis) Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: References: <2001319-14713-13283@foorum.com> Fab wrote: >Hello > >We use Tornado 2 (NT host) for both mc68k and x86 architectures (each >version of T2 is installed into separate directory). >I can't (but i would like to...) create a build based on a second >architecure in the same application project. I have to duplicate an >existing project (in a new directory), delete then create a new build >for this project. It is possible to create one tree for Tornado with both 68k and x86. As long as you do'nt mix versions (so if 68k is upgraded to 2.0.2 the x86 should also be upgraded to 2.0.2). I am using this for quite some time already, and did some checks on differences between the versions, but I did not find any problems. If you do this it is no problem to create a second build. Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: limit on vxsims? Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:12:13 -0500 From: Russell P Roy Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: <3AB7653C.3DC6E811@lucent.com> The documentation says one can run up to 16 instances of vxsim on a host machine (and the install creates 16 pseudo devices to make this happen). Does anyone know if this is a hard limit? I'd like to have 100 instances running and talking to each other over a net. Ideally they would all be running on the same machine (assuming there are enough resources). Alternately I could split them across machines. The doc talks about how to do an "add route" on the host so that vxsim intances can talk across hosts ...but I'll still need to provide unique ip address for my large network which I think brings me back to the issue of supporting add'l addresses outside the range 127.0.1.0 - 127.0.1.15. BTW, i'm running on solaris. - -- Russ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: BSP problem with 80MHz TQM860 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:55:23 +0100 From: Andreas Kalt Organization: diAx dplanet (postings do not reflect the views of diAx) Message-ID: <3AB76F5B.A0E120C@zhwin.ch> hello We are working with Tornado2 on NT and are trying to install a BSP on a 80MHz TQM860-Module. After changing TQM-Mode there is no reaction. Have you any idea? please help Andreas K --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Level Vs Edge Triggered interrupts Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:01:11 -0500 From: "nitin kumar" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <997r6j$fb0$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Hi all, We have been having problems with devices that generate a level triggered interrupt. For example the UART/ethernet Controller on our boards. As soon as I enabled interrupts on the UART, the board would hang. This problem went away when the interrupts were made edge triggered. We have the variable sysIntIdtType set to 0x0000ef00 ( trap mode ). Could some one help me undertsnad what is happening ? And how does this variable play viz. interrupts ? Thanks in advance Nitin --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Level Vs Edge Triggered interrupts Date: 20 Mar 2001 15:19:28 GMT From: borkhuis@agere.com (Johan Borkhuis) Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: References: <997r6j$fb0$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> "nitin kumar" wrote: >Hi all, >We have been having problems with devices that >generate a level triggered interrupt. For example the >UART/ethernet Controller on our boards. As soon as I enabled >interrupts on the UART, the board would hang. This >problem went away when the interrupts were made >edge triggered. We have the variable sysIntIdtType >set to 0x0000ef00 ( trap mode ). >Could some one help me undertsnad what is happening ? >And how does this variable play viz. interrupts ? It looks like the interrupt is kept at an active level by the UART. Have you tried resetting the interrupt from within the interrupt routine? AFAIK it does not matter if you are using level or edge triggered interrupts. Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Creating files in the host(NT) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:10:32 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <985104924.757965@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AB7676E.461C7016@interbulletin.com> If you use the 'host' device created by default for the boot host, then the file is not created on the host until you close the file. It lives in memory on the target. So you can work with the file for long time, but when then try to close it you get an error. One possibility is that your target is not privileged to write to your FTP share. Try to open an existing file on your target, if you can read from it probably you just need to allow write access to your boot FTP server for the target. hth werner "Haribalram R" wrote in message news:3AB7676E.461C7016@interbulletin.com... > Hi all, > > I am writing an application that logs all debug messages onto a file. The file needs to reside in the NT host. I am not getting an error when i try to create the file. But I am getting an error when i try to close it. > > If any of u hv hit upon this problem, please let me know. Can v give relative path names in the open/creat sys call? Where wld the file b created in this case? > > Thanx in advance. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Submitted via WebNewsReader of http://www.interbulletin.com > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Building standalone vxworks image using project facility Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:13:03 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <985105075.307169@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AB76886.B35D1092@princetonoptical.com> AFAIK there is nothing special about the stand alone versions of VxWorks. You can just compile the features you need in Tornado II and use that image. Exclude all the WDB and host debugging stuff and you are there. hth Werner "Bhavesh Patel" wrote in message news:3AB76886.B35D1092@princetonoptical.com... > Hi, > > I am building a standalone vxworks image having its - > a) own system symbol table > b) target shell > c) and associated interactive routines (usrLib.o). > > According to the vxworks programmer's guide pg366 section 8.9.1 - > "The rules for building vxWorks.st create a module usrConfig_st.o, which > is the usrConfig.c module compiled with the STANDALONE flag defined." > > Now the question is - If one uses Tornado2's project facility is it > necessary to define the "-DSTANDALONE" flag in the build specification? > Even if we do that I can't seem to find the "C" file where it is > defined. I get the feeling this flag is no longer needed but I needed > the input from the folks on the newsgroup. > > Thanks. > bhavesh patel > > > -- > Posted from 64-56-57-146.comcasttel.net [64.56.57.146] > via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Level Vs Edge Triggered interrupts Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:15:36 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <985105228.750787@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <997r6j$fb0$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> > > AFAIK it does not matter if you are using level or edge triggered > interrupts. > Maybe this if true for that particular board, it is not for shared interrupts. These require level triggering because otherwise an interrupt can be lost while an other is active. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: problem with coffArmToBin Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:50:19 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <997vlk$gfg$4@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> It seems that coffArmToBin doesn't recognize sections other than .text and .data. Is it true? What about coffToBin? How to deal with the problem if my reloctable gets larger than 0xffff? I was recommended to use the option split-by-reloc, but the second code section caused an error when I use coffArmToBin. And then I assigned some of my code to a new code section with pragma, it works when I use coffArmToBin, but it seems the new code section was not copied into the output image file. Any advices? Any suggestion? Is it possible to change the behaviour of coffArmToBin? Thanks --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what's objLib? Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:44:40 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <997vlk$gfg$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <98ldn6$s7r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <984518665.536737@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <98o8n9$l7k$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Thanks a lot. I've found one bug in the code. When a device was created, the SEL_WAKEUP_LIST structure was not initialized by selWakeupListInit(). Thus causes 3d0001 reported when select() was called. I think I need to figure out all the causes of errno 3d0001 by debugging into the system code. As for errno 3d0002, I agree that it's not very important, but do you think it's normal if I can't clear it with errnoOfTaskSet()? I mean it seems that that error was set again right after I cleared the errno variable. It makes me very unhappy because it's not a desired behaviour. After checking the code, I found that all possible calls with time_out value NO_WAIT are msgQSend calls. I guess maybe some task which is not well synchronized is sending msgs in a loop. Thank you very much for your help. Xiaoguang Keith Arner wrote in message news:Pine.GSO.4.20.0103190945570.6196-100000@zimbra... > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Dave Korn wrote: > > > > The value of errno is only valid immediately after you get an ERROR > > code returned from some kernel function. If the function returns OK, > > errno might or might not have a value in it, but you *must* ignore it. > > > > It isn't important, but I *think* that the 0x3d0001/2 error happens > > somewhere deep in the inner levels of ioLib. > > In my experience, 0x3d0002 is normal. Something did a semTake() with a > timeout. However, 0x3d0001 is usually a sign of something having gone > wrong -- you passed a pointer to something, but have lost track of the > state of that something. For example, if two tasks are sharing a SEM_ID, > and one of the tasks attempts to semTake() that SEM_ID after the other has > done a semDelete(), you are going to get 0x3d0001. > > As you said, you need to catch errno at the point of return from a system > call, so tracking it down after you see it appear in the output of > i() is a waste of time. However, it's probably worth the effort to figure > out why you are getting 0x3d0001 in the first place. > > Keith > > -- > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.realtime,comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Processor speed Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 18:02:25 +0100 From: "Mikkel Elmholdt" Organization: CyberCity Internet Message-ID: <9982f8$2e1a$1@news.cybercity.dk> References: <3AB2A1E0.38F8B82F@lucent.com> AFAIK, VxWorks as such does not know the speed of the processor. Either you specifically state the CPU speed as a constant in the BSP, or you have a special driver, that can access the CPU and read this information (provided that it is possible to read this kind of information from the CPU in question). Regards Mikkel Elmholdt viv wrote in message news:3AB2A1E0.38F8B82F@lucent.com... > How can I find out the processor speed in VxWorks? I know its a PowerPC > but don't know its speed. > > thanks, > viv --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: How to execute a Target Shell command from VxWorks Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:30:26 GMT From: ranjana@surfree.com (Ranjana Shah) Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <3ab792aa.14128676@news.surfree.com> Reply-To: ranjana@surfree.com Does anyone know of an easy way to execute a shell commnad from a VxWorks task that receives a batch of shell commands from a user? Ranjana Shah --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Unable to use ifunit ("ln0") when building a vxWorks ROM image Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:33:43 -0800 From: "Anil Dadlani" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <998a8u$si0$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi, When I build a vxWorks rom image, I get a NULL return code when I use the ifunit("ln0") API. The same function works fine when I build a vxworks ram image and then download my code over serial. Any ideas why this is the case? What do I need to do special when building vxWorks rom image? Thanks in advance, Anil --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How to execute a Target Shell command from VxWorks Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:24:53 -0500 From: Keith Arner Organization: Marconi Message-ID: References: <3ab792aa.14128676@news.surfree.com> Reply-To: Keith Arner On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Ranjana Shah wrote: > Does anyone know of an easy way to execute a shell commnad from a > VxWorks task that receives a batch of shell commands from a user? Call execute(). Be careful, though, as execute() is not thread-safe. Keith --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: etherMultiAdd ENETRESET error for NPT driver Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:41:55 -0500 From: Karen West Organization: Motorola Internet and Networking Groop Message-ID: <3AB7DCB3.91AAD793@motorola.com> I am calling etherMultiAdd() in my NPT driver in response to the ioctl request, and I am receiving error message ENETRESET (0x34). Does anyone know why this happens? Thanks, Karen --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Clist on VxWorks Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 18:58:52 -0500 From: Newbie Organization: UUNET Canada News Reader Service Message-ID: <3AB7EEBC.E512CD95@NoSuchAddress.com> Hi All, Does anyone know or has ported the Mircosoft's CList to the VxWorks? Or there is a site where I could find it? Thanks in advance. Cheers --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Tornado debugging Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 00:43:11 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <3AA66B5F.E6F0360B@yahoo.com> <98909k$pj3$00$1@news.t-online.com> <9892nv$du5$07$1@news.t-online.com> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>>>> "MR" == Martin Raabe writes: MR> Hello Bill, the SPR 28340 started from the gdbarm and we made the MR> SPR cover all gdb's including gdbsimnt, gdbppc, etc. This is for MR> WinNT and Unix. I have updated to Tornado 2.0.1, for an x86 host and an ARM target. My gdbarm program still does not seem to single step as my `mingw version of gdb' does (using NTEmacs and GUD). Does anyone know if they include an SPR list in the releases anymore? I know they use to, but I cann't find one now. I found SPR 28340 and SPR 27399 as being possible problems. I would like to know if they are fixed in this T2.0.1. I would also appreciate know what the exact problem is... why GUD doesn't grok the gdbarm from WRS. regards, Bill Pringlemeir. - -- LIFE is a never-ending INFORMERCIAL! Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: visionclick beats singlestep? Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:04:13 +0800 From: "Ren Hantao" Organization: Lucent Technologies, Columbus, Ohio Message-ID: <993soq$kd2@nntpb.cb.lucent.com> References: <992fuf$95b$1@overload.lbl.gov> You can develop the BSP with three steps. Step 1. Generate a downloadable image of vxWorks(don't forget to add -g as one of the complier options when building vxWorks), then convert it to the .bdx and .ab file, download it from the visionICE to the target board and trace the code from usrInit (generally at the address of 0x10000). Step2. After success of step1(vxWorks can run properly), you can build your bootrom and programme it to the flash, then debug it with visionClick until you can see the countdown of booting. Remember that you may not see the source code of bootrom on visionClick (Are there any one who have been successful see the souce code like bootConfig.c on visionClick when debug bootrom? At least I haven't. So I can only trace it with assembly code) Step3. Unplug the cable of the visionICE from the BDM port of your board. and turn on the power to see if it would boot correctly and download vxWorks from a remote ftp server and run. Ren Hantao Bell Labs China 2001/03/19 "Thomas Barkley" wrote in message news:992fuf$95b$1@overload.lbl.gov... > Hello everyone, > > First our environment: MPC860 on an MDP8xxPro board. > VXWORKS 5.4 Tornado 2.0 > > I am using the single-step debugger but I am trying to trace some low level > problems. > > I have a visionICE II unit hooked up, and I would like to use visionCLICK to > debug a Tornado "Downloadable application". > > When I start VisionClick, I explicitly run from 0xff000100. > I think that this gets the boot ROM to execute. > > Now I am stuck - how do I get the vxworks image to start execution and later > on do a download of my xxx.out file? > > Do you think that I will get more accurate control of Interrupts etc. > with VisionClick? > > Thanks in advance, > > Thomas Barkley. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: loadModule fails on target shell but works with windShell Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:07:39 -0500 From: "John Fraize" Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: // what I am doing ld < "manI_needThisTO_work.o" If I build vxWorks.st and try to loadModule I get a failure. But if I buld vxWorks and do it from a windShell via a target server it works. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what's objLib? Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:22:12 -0500 From: Keith Arner Organization: Marconi Message-ID: References: <98ldn6$s7r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <984518665.536737@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <98o8n9$l7k$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <997vlk$gfg$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Reply-To: Keith Arner On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman) wrote: > I've found one bug in the code. When a device was created, the > SEL_WAKEUP_LIST structure was not initialized by selWakeupListInit(). Thus > causes 3d0001 reported when select() was called. > > As for errno 3d0002, I agree that it's not very important, but do you think > it's normal if I can't clear it with errnoOfTaskSet()? I mean it seems that > that error was set again right after I cleared the errno variable. If you check errno immediately after you set it, it should not have changed. If you make any system calls between the time you set it and the time you test it, all bets are off. > It makes me very unhappy because it's not a desired behaviour. After > checking the code, I found that all possible calls with time_out value > NO_WAIT are msgQSend calls. I guess maybe some task which is not well > synchronized is sending msgs in a loop. My guess is that select() is setting errno to 3d0002. After all, it will sleep against a semaphore for the timeout that you specify. If you don't have activity on any fd before the timeout, you will get 3d0002. Keith --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: NPT and END Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:19:26 -0800 From: "AG" Organization: SBC Internet Services Message-ID: References: <98k15a$hs$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net> Different names same functionality (so it seems) "nraju" wrote in message news:98k15a$hs$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net... > > Hi: > What is the difference between a NPT driver and > an END driver. Is there any difference in the functionality > or entry points ? > > > Thanks! > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Problem with SIGNALS Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:40:08 -0600 From: "Smark" Organization: Lockheed Martin Corporation Message-ID: <9984lf$igh1@cui1.lmms.lmco.com> References: <000e01c0b12e$e863f210$1605a8c0@future.futsoft.com> "viveks" wrote in message news:000e01c0b12e$e863f210$1605a8c0@future.futsoft.com... > > Hi VxWorks Guru's > I am having some problem with (POSIX)signals in VxWorks. If any one can > help me out?? > Thanks in advance. > I am using Tornado 2 Simuator for NT. > > > Here is the code I tried. > I run test from the shell as a task. > But as soon as the timer expires I get a GPF with values > PC = 0x0041F876 > SR = 0x00010202 > error no. : 0xC0002 > > > > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > > #define SIGNAL_NUMBER 25 > > > void my_handler(timer_t timerid,int arg ) > { > printf("I am In handler\n"); > } > > void test() > { > char buff[25]; > struct itimerspec Value, Value1; > timer_t Timer; > struct timespec tp; > struct sigaction sigact; > > tp.tv_sec = 100; > tp.tv_nsec = 100; > > > Value.it_interval.tv_sec = Value.it_interval.tv_nsec = 0; > Value.it_value.tv_sec = 10; > Value.it_value.tv_nsec = 30; > > if( clock_settime (CLOCK_REALTIME, &tp) != OK) > perror("Clocl_settime"); > > if (timer_create(CLOCK_REALTIME, NULL, &Timer) == ERROR) > { > > printf("Create Timer Error \n"); > } > > printf("executing signal \n"); > > sigact.sa_u.__sa_handler = (void *)my_handler; > sigact.sa_mask = 0; > sigact.sa_flags = SA_NOCLDSTOP; > > if (timer_settime(Timer, NULL, (const struct itimerspec * )&Value, > (struct itimerspec *)NULL) == ERROR) > { > > perror("timer_settime Error \n"); > } > > if (sigaction(SIGALRM,&sigact ,NULL) != OK) I generally don't use POSIX signals, so I can't be sure, but I think the above line is going to try to write to NULL. You could try replacing NULL with a pointer to another sigaction struct. HTH, Mark --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: 2 x END drivers? Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 18:08:05 -0800 From: "AG" Organization: SBC Internet Services Message-ID: I have 2 Ethernet devices on our board (82557) and I'm using a PPC750 board with the FEI END driver. If I enable only one device (on the PCI bus) it works fine. But when I enable the second one, things go out of control and the BSP hangs shortly after enabling interrupts for the second device in fei82557Start(). I have added an entry for the second device in the END table entry as follows (in configNet.h): END_TBL_ENTRY endDevTbl [] = { { 0, END_LOAD_FUNC, END_LOAD_STRING, END_BUFF_LOAN, NULL, FALSE}, { 1, END_LOAD_FUNC, END_LOAD_STRING, END_BUFF_LOAN, NULL, FALSE}, }; Does anybody have any pointers as for what is potentially going wrong here? Thanks. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: measure cpu load in vxworks Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:59:13 -0800 From: "Wei-Hsin Lee" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <9992sf$ohi$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi, Does any one know how to measure the cpu load in vxworks? I am trying to create a task to sample the system load. Thanks in advance, - -Wei-Hsin --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: measure cpu load in vxworks Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 18:02:31 -0800 From: "Wei-Hsin Lee" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <9992si$ohj$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi, Does any one know how to measure the cpu load in vxworks? I am trying to create a task to sample the system load. Thanks in advance, - -Wei-Hsin VxWorks Tornado --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: dosFs-2 + vxSim (re-post) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 02:27:26 GMT From: andreyk@home.com (Andray Kaganovsky) Organization: @Home Message-ID: Hello world, I am looking for a way to build custom VxWorks simulator (vxSim) with complete dosFs-2 configuration linked in. Unfortunately all dosFs-2 components appear in Project facility as not installed. Does anybody know if dosFs-2 actually exist for VxSim (simpc BSP) ? If it does, do I need to get license key specifically for dosFs-2/simpc (as I did for dosFs-2/x86 and dosFs-2/ppc) ? I am using Tornado 2.02, Win2000 host. Thanks in advance, Andray --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Break Loop(vxWorks). Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:29:39 +0800 From: "Ren Hantao" Organization: Lucent Technologies, Columbus, Ohio Message-ID: <994jbe$m16@nntpb.cb.lucent.com> References: <99415e$8hj$1@overload.lbl.gov> I wrote a example.... #include "stdio.h" #include "ioLib.h" #include "taskLib.h" #include "ioStream.h" void kbHit(void); char keyPress = FALSE; void test(void) { int i=0; taskSpawn("kbHit",20, 0, 1000, (FUNCPTR)kbHit, 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0); for (;;) { cout << i++ << endl; if (keyPress == TRUE) { cout << "Key Pressed!" << endl; keyPress = FALSE; } taskDelay(120); } } void kbHit(void) { int inputFd; char ch; inputFd = ioGlobalStdGet(0); for(;;) { read(inputFd, &ch, 1); keyPress = TRUE; } } Ren Hantao Bell Labs China "Krishna Kishore Reddy Sureddy" wrote in message news:99415e$8hj$1@overload.lbl.gov... > Hi vxWorks Gurus, > I have a for loop in "C". > for(i =0 ; i< N; i++); > { > /* If any key is pressed break out of Loop */ > } > If a user presses some key(keyboard) before "N times", then i have to > come out of the Loop. > For this there is "khbit()" in windows. > But how to acheive the same in "vxWorks" > > Thanks and Regards, > S.K.K.Reddy. > "Krishna Kishore Reddy Sureddy" wrote in message news:99415e$8hj$1@overload.lbl.gov... > Hi vxWorks Gurus, > I have a for loop in "C". > for(i =0 ; i< N; i++); > { > /* If any key is pressed break out of Loop */ > } > If a user presses some key(keyboard) before "N times", then i have to > come out of the Loop. > For this there is "khbit()" in windows. > But how to acheive the same in "vxWorks" > > Thanks and Regards, > S.K.K.Reddy. > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Building standalone vxworks image using project facility Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:32:27 +0000 (UTC) From: bpatel@princetonoptical.com (Bhavesh Patel) Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: <3AB76886.B35D1092@princetonoptical.com> Hi, I am building a standalone vxworks image having its - a) own system symbol table b) target shell c) and associated interactive routines (usrLib.o). According to the vxworks programmer's guide pg366 section 8.9.1 - "The rules for building vxWorks.st create a module usrConfig_st.o, which is the usrConfig.c module compiled with the STANDALONE flag defined." Now the question is - If one uses Tornado2's project facility is it necessary to define the "-DSTANDALONE" flag in the build specification? Even if we do that I can't seem to find the "C" file where it is defined. I get the feeling this flag is no longer needed but I needed the input from the folks on the newsgroup. Thanks. bhavesh patel - -- Posted from 64-56-57-146.comcasttel.net [64.56.57.146] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: help with reading character in raw mode from stdin Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:24:00 -0800 From: Smita Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <9999te$t18$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi, I am reading a character from stdin in raw mode on VxWorks. but i don't want to getc()/read() the character if is not the desired character. so, i was wondering whether there is any way to compare the character while in buffer before actually reading it in. thanks, smita --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: problem with coffArmToBin Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:51:52 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <997vlk$gfg$4@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>>>> "WX" == Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman) writes: WX> It seems that coffArmToBin doesn't recognize sections other than WX> .text and .data. Is it true? What about coffToBin? WX> How to deal with the problem if my reloctable gets larger than WX> 0xffff? I was recommended to use the option split-by-reloc, but WX> the second code section caused an error when I use coffArmToBin. WX> And then I assigned some of my code to a new code section with WX> pragma, it works when I use coffArmToBin, but it seems the new WX> code section was not copied into the output image file. My experience with `coffxxxToBin' and `elfxxxToBin' is that the are not very flexible. You may be able to use `objcopyarm'. I don't know why this tool isn't used by WRS. Perhaps it doesn't relocate to a binary address. At any rate, you should check with `objdumparm' that you don't have an unresolved relocation. Run `objdumparm --all-headers myfile.out' and then look for a line with an address of all zeros. For example, [ x](sec 1)(fl 0x00)(ty 0)(scl 6) (nx 0) 0x00000000 _UNKNOWN_FUNCTION ^^^^^^^^ This address is all zero and is probably unknown/////// The function name with be something with an `_' (underbar) that you are using in your code. Don't be concerned with names like .fake etc. If you really do have many relocation, then you should be able to do an incremental link to resolve some of the relocations before the conversion, if you haven't done so already. If you have, then `objcopy' would be your best hope. The source for binutils is also freely available. I have been using it to re-write the vxWorks loadModule() function. You could do a similar thing on your host so that you can relocate your image... but hopefully objcopy works. hth, Bill Pringlemeir... - -- Have you ever excommunicated someone you saw at a party through the use of force fields? Or joined a church where everyone but you can become one with your anteater? You will. And the company that will bring it to you: AT&T. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: measure cpu load in vxworks Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:33:29 +0800 From: "tanghaoyu" Organization: Bentium Ltd. Message-ID: <999b0s$fhm$1@mail.cn99.com> References: <9992sf$ohi$1@overload.lbl.gov> spylib "Wei-Hsin Lee" wrote in message news:9992sf$ohi$1@overload.lbl.gov... > Hi, > > Does any one know how to measure the cpu load > in vxworks? I am trying to create a task to > sample the system load. Thanks in advance, > > -Wei-Hsin > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: trueFFS?? DOSFS2.0?? Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:45:51 +0900 From: "Á¶À縸" Organization: Korea Telecom Message-ID: <999beb$eil$1@news2-2.kornet.net> Hi, I am using Tornado2.0 for vxworks5.4, host is WindowsNT. which file organize trueFFS, DOSFS 2.0 for mips ? I need these library's 'file name list'........ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Need info on timing a function Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:12:47 -0500 From: Delafrance Mirtyle Organization: Lockheed Martin -- Information Systems Center Message-ID: <3AB621EF.B7B391EC@lmco.com> I want to measure the amount of time (in microseconds) that a function takes to execute. I am using tickGet and I have sysClkRate set to 600. Is there a more accurate way to do this timing? Thanks in advance! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Break Loop(vxWorks). Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:30:33 +0000 From: Graham Baxter Organization: Graham Baxter (Software) Limited Message-ID: <3AB5D1B9.24DA0C94@NOSPAM.bcs.org.uk> References: <99415e$8hj$1@overload.lbl.gov> See the loop in bootConfig.c. The function ioctl is used: int bytesRead = 0; (void)ioctl(consoleFd,FIONREAD,(int)&bytesRead); Regards, Graham Baxter Freelance Software Engineer gbaxter@NOSPAMbcs.org.uk Krishna Kishore Reddy Sureddy wrote: > > Hi vxWorks Gurus, > I have a for loop in "C". > for(i =0 ; i< N; i++); > { > /* If any key is pressed break out of Loop */ > } > If a user presses some key(keyboard) before "N times", then i have to > come out of the Loop. > For this there is "khbit()" in windows. > But how to acheive the same in "vxWorks" > > Thanks and Regards, > S.K.K.Reddy. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: where are _RType defined? Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:07:16 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: <94st6.232$UG4.65221@newsr1.u-net.net> References: YHU wrote in message ... >Hi, > >I got a compiling error. Does anyone know where "_RType" is defined? It's defined in arch\ppc\archPpc.h. The probable reason why you get this error is because you don't have #include at the start of your C file, which is needed before you can include any other WRS includes. Pretty much every file you compile under VxWorks should always have that line first. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: rpcore backend Client Timed out. Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:18:00 -0500 From: "Alix Pouladdej" Organization: Nortel Networks Message-ID: <995ih5$cj4$1@bcrkh13.ca.nortel.com> I am running vxworks on Windows NT. When I try to launch my simulator target server, I get the error: Connecting to target agent Error: rpcore backend Client Timed out failed. ... and continues without successfully connecting to the target server. I have "select WDB mode" set to "WDB task debug" and "select WDB connect" set to "WDB END Driver", I have a 30 second retry time with number of re-tries set to 1. - -- Alix Pouladdej Notrel Networks alixp@nortelnetworks.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Need info on timing a function Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:36:13 +0100 From: Emmanuel Herbreteau Organization: SEPRO Robotique (BEP) Message-ID: <3AB6276D.CFEADF0E@sepro-robotique.com> References: <3AB621EF.B7B391EC@lmco.com> Delafrance Mirtyle wrote: > I want to measure the amount of time (in microseconds) that a function > takes to execute. Hi, You should use "timex" as described in the Tornado training book (3-44) - - timex(func,args) - - timexN(func,args) under the vxworks shell, type : - -> timerxN (stuff) timex: 50 reps, time per rep = 50293 +/- 333 (0%) microsecs - -- Regards Emmanuel. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: measure cpu load in vxworks Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:31:23 GMT From: "Corey Ashford" Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: References: <9992si$ohj$1@overload.lbl.gov> One way would be to write a low priority task that loops and just increments a counter continuously. Measure how many loops you can do in some amount of time, then load up your system with your other tasks, simulating whatever system load you want, and then count how many loops your low- priority task can count with the system load at that level in the same amount of time as before. (load_count/no_load_count) * 100.0 is your cpu load percentage. - - Corey "Wei-Hsin Lee" wrote in message news:9992si$ohj$1@overload.lbl.gov... > Hi, > > Does any one know how to measure the cpu load > in vxworks? I am trying to create a task to > sample the system load. Thanks in advance, > > -Wei-Hsin > > VxWorks Tornado --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Tornado debugging Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:40:32 +0100 From: "Martin Raabe" Organization: T-Online Message-ID: <999ltc$p1d$06$1@news.t-online.com> References: <3AA66B5F.E6F0360B@yahoo.com> <98909k$pj3$00$1@news.t-online.com> <9892nv$du5$07$1@news.t-online.com> Hello Bill, I experienced a situation, which I just describe. Maybe this is the situation, you are in now? I use SPR23840 and download and start an application. When I attach I HAVE TO set a breakpoint. After having done that all features are available. Without setting this breakpoint, the target will never stop again. I suspect this is a debugger cold start issue. After having access to the target again I can remove the first breakpoint. Hope it helps. Speaking for my own, not for my employer! Ciao - --Martin Raabe "Bill Pringlemeir" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:uelvsq74j.fsf@yahoo.com... > >>>>> "MR" == Martin Raabe writes: > > MR> Hello Bill, the SPR 28340 started from the gdbarm and we made the > MR> SPR cover all gdb's including gdbsimnt, gdbppc, etc. This is for > MR> WinNT and Unix. > > I have updated to Tornado 2.0.1, for an x86 host and an ARM target. > My gdbarm program still does not seem to single step as my `mingw > version of gdb' does (using NTEmacs and GUD). > > Does anyone know if they include an SPR list in the releases anymore? > I know they use to, but I cann't find one now. I found SPR 28340 > and SPR 27399 as being possible problems. I would like to know if > they are fixed in this T2.0.1. > > I would also appreciate know what the exact problem is... why GUD > doesn't grok the gdbarm from WRS. > > regards, > Bill Pringlemeir. > -- > LIFE is a never-ending INFORMERCIAL! > Useful vxWorks URLS, > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Tornado debugging Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:39:27 +0100 From: "Martin Raabe" Organization: T-Online Message-ID: <999lra$24u$03$1@news.t-online.com> References: <3AA66B5F.E6F0360B@yahoo.com> <98909k$pj3$00$1@news.t-online.com> <9892nv$du5$07$1@news.t-online.com> Hello Bill, I experienced a situation, which I just describe. Maybe this is the situation, you are in now? I use SPR23840 and download and start an application. When I attach I HAVE TO set a breakpoint. After having done that all features are available. Without setting this breakpoint, the target will never stop again. I suspect this is a debugger cold start issue. After having access to the target again I can remove the first breakpoint. Hope it helps. Speaking for my own, not for my employer! Ciao - --Martin Raabe "Bill Pringlemeir" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:uelvsq74j.fsf@yahoo.com... > >>>>> "MR" == Martin Raabe writes: > > MR> Hello Bill, the SPR 28340 started from the gdbarm and we made the > MR> SPR cover all gdb's including gdbsimnt, gdbppc, etc. This is for > MR> WinNT and Unix. > > I have updated to Tornado 2.0.1, for an x86 host and an ARM target. > My gdbarm program still does not seem to single step as my `mingw > version of gdb' does (using NTEmacs and GUD). > > Does anyone know if they include an SPR list in the releases anymore? > I know they use to, but I cann't find one now. I found SPR 28340 > and SPR 27399 as being possible problems. I would like to know if > they are fixed in this T2.0.1. > > I would also appreciate know what the exact problem is... why GUD > doesn't grok the gdbarm from WRS. > > regards, > Bill Pringlemeir. > -- > LIFE is a never-ending INFORMERCIAL! > Useful vxWorks URLS, > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Tornado debugging Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:41:52 +0100 From: "Martin Raabe" Organization: T-Online Message-ID: <999lvr$38v$01$1@news.t-online.com> References: <3AA66B5F.E6F0360B@yahoo.com> <98909k$pj3$00$1@news.t-online.com> <9892nv$du5$07$1@news.t-online.com> Hello Bill, I experienced a situation, which I just describe. Maybe this is the situation, you are in now? I use SPR23840 and download and start an application. When I attach I HAVE TO set a breakpoint. After having done that all features are available. Without setting this breakpoint, the target will never stop again. I suspect this is a debugger cold start issue. After having access to the target again I can remove the first breakpoint. Hope it helps. Speaking for my own, not for my employer! Ciao - -- Martin Raabe "Bill Pringlemeir" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:uelvsq74j.fsf@yahoo.com... > >>>>> "MR" == Martin Raabe writes: > > MR> Hello Bill, the SPR 28340 started from the gdbarm and we made the > MR> SPR cover all gdb's including gdbsimnt, gdbppc, etc. This is for > MR> WinNT and Unix. > > I have updated to Tornado 2.0.1, for an x86 host and an ARM target. > My gdbarm program still does not seem to single step as my `mingw > version of gdb' does (using NTEmacs and GUD). > > Does anyone know if they include an SPR list in the releases anymore? > I know they use to, but I cann't find one now. I found SPR 28340 > and SPR 27399 as being possible problems. I would like to know if > they are fixed in this T2.0.1. > > I would also appreciate know what the exact problem is... why GUD > doesn't grok the gdbarm from WRS. > > regards, > Bill Pringlemeir. > -- > LIFE is a never-ending INFORMERCIAL! > Useful vxWorks URLS, > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VxWorks, PC/104 and ORiNOCO wireless lan Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:30:16 +0100 From: "Ole-Johan Ellingsen" Organization: Norwegian university of science and technology Message-ID: <999s8c$9r9$1@tyfon.itea.ntnu.no> Hi, has anyone successfully used a ORiNOCO wireless lan card on a PC/104 platform running VxWorks? I would like to know how much hassle it would be before deciding on this solution... :) Regards, Ole-Johan Ellingsen --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: DosFS 2.0?? trueFFS?? Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:30:52 +0900 From: "Á¶À縸" Organization: Korea Telecom Message-ID: <999s77$2iv$1@news1.kornet.net> Hi, I am using Tornado2.0 for vxworks5.4, host is WindowsNT. Which file organized trueFFS, DOSFS 2.0 for mips ? I need these library's 'file name list'........ Thanks in advance, --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Clist on VxWorks Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:01:09 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <985169164.804311@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AB7EEBC.E512CD95@NoSuchAddress.com> I guess you have a special reason why you want use CList. Otherwise you should consider using the container classes found in the C++ library std::list in your case. This will work in both worlds and it's already there, too. regards werner "Newbie" wrote in message news:3AB7EEBC.E512CD95@NoSuchAddress.com... > Hi All, > > Does anyone know or has ported the Mircosoft's CList to the VxWorks? Or > there is a site where I could find it? > > Thanks in advance. > > Cheers > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: How do I get the default gateway address using VxWorks API? Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 03:57:55 -0800 (PST) From: Nagasesha Reddy Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99a61e$jll$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi, Is there any vxworks routine to get the default gateway address on a vxworks target? thanks, Seshu __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what's objLib? Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:44:57 +0000 From: James Marshall Organization: Agilent Technologies UK Ltd Message-ID: <3AB8A249.97D16907@agilent.com> References: <98ldn6$s7r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <984518665.536737@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <98o8n9$l7k$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <997vlk$gfg$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> > > It makes me very unhappy because it's not a desired behaviour. After > > checking the code, I found that all possible calls with time_out value > > NO_WAIT are msgQSend calls. I guess maybe some task which is not well > > synchronized is sending msgs in a loop. > > My guess is that select() is setting errno to 3d0002. After all, it will > sleep against a semaphore for the timeout that you specify. If you don't > have activity on any fd before the timeout, you will get 3d0002. Not quite true. There's a subtle difference in VxWorks that's already caught us out. If you semTake() with NO_WAIT and the semaphore isn't available then you get 3d0002, _OBJ_UNAVAILABLE. semTake() with a non-zero timeout which expires before the semaphore is available returns 3d0004, OBJ_TIMEOUT. In other words it's only a timeout if you asked to wait, otherwise it's just unavailable. I expect the behaviour is the same for message queues - and select() if it uses semaphores. James Marshall. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Software floating point on i386EX target Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:31:09 +0100 From: "Ignacio González" Organization: Accesos TSAI Message-ID: <99a6b3$40a3@esiami.tsai.es> Dear colleagues: We are having problems trying to use floating point functions with VxWorks 5.4 & Tornado 2.0. Can anybody help us? Our target is a 386EX custom board that works OK in every aspect, save for this problem. As we don't have math coprocessor, we are using the SW emulation library. We have made an OS image with: #define INCLUDE_SW_FP #define INCLUDE_HW_FP In these conditions, the target hangs when executing the function: mathHardInit (); ... and we are also hung. If we dare to make things such as these: #define INCLUDE_SW_FP #undef INCLUDE_HW_FP ... then every floating point operation results in an error message sent to the console. For instance, (Shell) - -> sin(3.02) value = 32 = 0x20 = ' ' (Console) 0x760f4 (t1): ERROR - floating point math not initialized! We have also disassemblied some functions: - -> l sin _sin 03feda50 a1 e4 8c 00 00 MOV EAX, 0x8ce4 03feda55 ff e0 JMP EAX 03feda57 8d 36 LEA ESI, [ESI] 03feda59 8d b4 26 00 00 00 00 LEA ESI, [ESI+0] - -> l 0x8CE4 _mathSinFunc 00008ce4 80 dc fe SBB AH, 0xfe _mathSinhFunc 00008cec 80 dc fe SBB AH, 0xfe _mathTanFunc 00008cf4 80 dc fe SBB AH, 0xfe _mathTruncFunc 00008cfc 80 dc fe SBB AH, 0xfe _mathFasinFunc 00008d04 80 dc fe SBB AH, 0xfe Curious, isn't it? Any hint? Isn't anybody using an Intel-like board w/o math coprocessor or what? Are we the poorest developers on Earth? --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Software floating point on i386EX target Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:32:45 +0100 From: "Ignacio González" Organization: Accesos TSAI Message-ID: <99a6e5$9bj2@esiami.tsai.es> Dear colleagues: We are having problems trying to use floating point functions with VxWorks 5.4 & Tornado 2.0. Can anybody help us? Our target is a 386EX custom board that works OK in every aspect, save for this problem. As we don't have math coprocessor, we are using the SW emulation library. We have made an OS image with: #define INCLUDE_SW_FP #define INCLUDE_HW_FP In these conditions, the target hangs when executing the function: mathHardInit (); ... and we are also hung. If we dare to make things such as these: #define INCLUDE_SW_FP #undef INCLUDE_HW_FP ... then every floating point operation results in an error message sent to the console. For instance, (Shell) - -> sin(3.02) value = 32 = 0x20 = ' ' (Console) 0x760f4 (t1): ERROR - floating point math not initialized! We have also disassemblied some functions: - -> l sin _sin 03feda50 a1 e4 8c 00 00 MOV EAX, 0x8ce4 03feda55 ff e0 JMP EAX 03feda57 8d 36 LEA ESI, [ESI] 03feda59 8d b4 26 00 00 00 00 LEA ESI, [ESI+0] - -> l 0x8CE4 _mathSinFunc 00008ce4 80 dc fe SBB AH, 0xfe _mathSinhFunc 00008cec 80 dc fe SBB AH, 0xfe _mathTanFunc 00008cf4 80 dc fe SBB AH, 0xfe _mathTruncFunc 00008cfc 80 dc fe SBB AH, 0xfe _mathFasinFunc 00008d04 80 dc fe SBB AH, 0xfe Curious, isn't it? Any hint? Isn't anybody using an Intel-like board w/o math coprocessor or what? Are we the poorest developers on Earth? Thanks in advance Ignacio González igtorque AINSIDEO eliop DOT es --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: vxWorks hangs on MCP750 board Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:31:40 +0530 From: "Venkatesh JS" Organization: Motorola Message-ID: <99abv9$roe$1@newshost.mot.com> hi, I tried to run vxworks on MCP750 board using default MCP750 BSP provided by windriver when we purchased tornado 2. But after downloading the vxworks image, board just hangs after this message ...Starting at 0x100000 I have 16MB memory on target and my RAM_LOW_ADRS and RAM_HIGH_ADRS reflect this in makefile/config.h and T2 workspace also. Any solution for this problem ? , venkat --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what's objLib? Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 09:23:33 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <99ad73$56e$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <98ldn6$s7r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <984518665.536737@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <98o8n9$l7k$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <997vlk$gfg$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <3AB8A249.97D16907@agilent.com> Yes, I can find what James said in the manual. So, if what WRS said is true, then... Now, I've found what caused errno 3d0001 in some other tasks, tShell and another task. Here is my question before I dig deeper into the code : The function generates 3d0001 is printf(). I have no console contact to the target. I have to telnet to it. When I check its stdin/stdout/stderr, all of them point to fd=5. I'm using vxWorks 5.3.1-arm, is anything wrong with WRS's telnet module? Is this errno acceptable when I use telnet? It seems to me that the semaphore for the device which telnet is using has some problem. Is it a pty? Should it be initialized by WRS? Thanks Freeman James Marshall wrote in message news:3AB8A249.97D16907@agilent.com... > > > It makes me very unhappy because it's not a desired behaviour. After > > > checking the code, I found that all possible calls with time_out value > > > NO_WAIT are msgQSend calls. I guess maybe some task which is not well > > > synchronized is sending msgs in a loop. > > > > My guess is that select() is setting errno to 3d0002. After all, it will > > sleep against a semaphore for the timeout that you specify. If you don't > > have activity on any fd before the timeout, you will get 3d0002. > > Not quite true. There's a subtle difference in VxWorks that's already caught us > out. If you semTake() with NO_WAIT and the semaphore isn't available then you get > 3d0002, _OBJ_UNAVAILABLE. semTake() with a non-zero timeout which expires before > the semaphore is available returns 3d0004, OBJ_TIMEOUT. In other words it's only > a timeout if you asked to wait, otherwise it's just unavailable. > > I expect the behaviour is the same for message queues - and select() if it uses > semaphores. > > James Marshall. > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Clist on VxWorks Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:10:21 -0500 From: "Mike Kordik" Message-ID: References: <3AB7EEBC.E512CD95@NoSuchAddress.com> Do you really need CList? VxWorks (Tornado) supports the STL which has it's own list container. - -Mike "Newbie" wrote in message news:3AB7EEBC.E512CD95@NoSuchAddress.com... > Hi All, > > Does anyone know or has ported the Mircosoft's CList to the VxWorks? Or > there is a site where I could find it? > > Thanks in advance. > > Cheers > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Clist on VxWorks Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:45:44 -0500 From: Newbie Organization: UUNET Canada News Reader Service Message-ID: <3AB8CCA8.D82FBEC2@NoSuchAddress.com> References: <3AB7EEBC.E512CD95@NoSuchAddress.com> Thank you all. I know what you are talking, but I am trying to port a utility that was originally written using CList, and I just don't feel like rewriting that chunk of codes using the std STL. Now it looks like I have to do it now :(. Thanks. Mike Kordik wrote: > Do you really need CList? > > VxWorks (Tornado) supports the STL which has it's own list container. > > -Mike > "Newbie" wrote in message > news:3AB7EEBC.E512CD95@NoSuchAddress.com... > > Hi All, > > > > Does anyone know or has ported the Mircosoft's CList to the VxWorks? Or > > there is a site where I could find it? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Cheers > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: problem with coffArmToBin Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 11:10:36 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <99ajfq$73a$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <997vlk$gfg$4@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Thanks Bill. I changed to 5.4-arm coffArmToBin/ldarm and it works now. So does objcopyarm/ldarm. (Please refer to recommendation of Windriver - TSP # 215121) Bill Pringlemeir wrote in message news:uae6gl6oc.fsf@yahoo.com... > >>>>> "WX" == Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman) writes: > > WX> It seems that coffArmToBin doesn't recognize sections other than > WX> .text and .data. Is it true? What about coffToBin? > > WX> How to deal with the problem if my reloctable gets larger than > WX> 0xffff? I was recommended to use the option split-by-reloc, but > WX> the second code section caused an error when I use coffArmToBin. > > WX> And then I assigned some of my code to a new code section with > WX> pragma, it works when I use coffArmToBin, but it seems the new > WX> code section was not copied into the output image file. > > My experience with `coffxxxToBin' and `elfxxxToBin' is that the are > not very flexible. > > You may be able to use `objcopyarm'. I don't know why this tool isn't > used by WRS. Perhaps it doesn't relocate to a binary address. At any > rate, you should check with `objdumparm' that you don't have an > unresolved relocation. Run `objdumparm --all-headers myfile.out' and > then look for a line with an address of all zeros. For example, > > [ x](sec 1)(fl 0x00)(ty 0)(scl 6) (nx 0) 0x00000000 _UNKNOWN_FUNCTION > ^^^^^^^^ > This address is all zero and is probably unknown/////// > > The function name with be something with an `_' (underbar) that you > are using in your code. Don't be concerned with names like .fake etc. > > If you really do have many relocation, then you should be able to do > an incremental link to resolve some of the relocations before the > conversion, if you haven't done so already. If you have, then > `objcopy' would be your best hope. The source for binutils is also > freely available. I have been using it to re-write the vxWorks > loadModule() function. You could do a similar thing on your host so > that you can relocate your image... but hopefully objcopy works. > > hth, > Bill Pringlemeir... > -- > Have you ever excommunicated someone you saw at a party through the > use of force fields? Or joined a church where everyone but you can > become one with your anteater? You will. And the company that will > bring it to you: AT&T. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: RAM_LO, RAM_HI & Config.h Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:09:38 +0000 From: Owain Phillips Organization: Siemens Inc. Message-ID: <3AB8E052.288F784C@siemenscomms.co.uk> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------B445EAD1CB9A782A40C3E4C3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am trying to generate a new BSP for a card with a Mips processor I have 8 Meg of SDRAM. I have seen that for the idts134 BSP which is similar to our processor the following values are set up in config.h... LOCAL_MEM_ADRS 0x80000000 RAM_LOW_ADRS 0x80100000 RAM_HIGH_ADRS 0x80310000 How does one arrive at reasonable values for RAM_LOW_ADRS and RAM_HIGH_ADRS? I want to be able to build a traditional compressed bootrom; loadable vxworks and a rommable vxworks. So how do these addresses play together when I build each image type? What lands between the base address and RAM low? How are these memory spaces used? Any help appreciated. 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Any help such as a company, developer's name, or a URL would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Winston ----- Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the Web ----- http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam. If this or other posts made through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email abuse@newsone.net --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Break Loop(vxWorks). Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:49:55 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: <7O5u6.277$UG4.71397@newsr1.u-net.net> References: <99415e$8hj$1@overload.lbl.gov> <994jbe$m16@nntpb.cb.lucent.com> Ren Hantao wrote in message <994jbe$m16@nntpb.cb.lucent.com>... >I wrote a example.... I've got just one little nit to pick with this example: >char keyPress = FALSE; This should be 'volatile char', since otherwise the compiler is free to optimize it into a register in the test (..) task, and then it wouldn't notice when the variable in memory gets set by the other task. You should always declare a variable volatile when it might be changed without notice by another task in the middle of a routine. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: UDP eating mbufs!!! Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:40:15 +0100 From: Uwe Gerger Organization: Daimler-Benz Aerospace Message-ID: <3AB8E77F.4EA9EF9A@vs.dasa.de> References: <3AB24E8C.71E7ED0A@vs.dasa.de> I found the bug after several tests. This problem does not occure in "sendto" but instead occures when there is no receiver implemented, who receives and processes the data. My constellation was the following: sender (but no receiver) receiver | send data | |--------------------> | | | | send data | | (answer) | |<-------------------- | In this case for each packet received on the server-side, VxWorks allocates a free "mbuf" and a socket (SONAME) until the board isn't reachable over the network. Uwe Gerger wrote: > Hi, > > each time when sending UDP-packets with "sendto" the parameters "SONAME" > and "DATA" are increased until the max. size of mbufs is reached(400). > I can see this by invoking "mbufShow". > When max. limit is reached the board is hanging on and is no more > reacheable over the network. > > Does "SONAME" means "socket name" ? > > What can I do? > > Does anyone know a work-around? > > Thanks in advance > Uwe Gerger --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what's objLib? Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:42:44 -0800 From: Joe Durusau Organization: Lockheed Martin Corporation Message-ID: <3AB91244.94553828@lmco.com> References: <98ldn6$s7r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <984518665.536737@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <98o8n9$l7k$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <997vlk$gfg$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <3AB8A249.97D16907@agilent.com> <99ad73$56e$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> I'm getting confused. Is some function returning ERROR or NULL when it shouldn't? If so, which one? Speaking only for myself, Joe Durusau "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" wrote: > > Yes, I can find what James said in the manual. So, if what WRS said is true, > then... > > Now, I've found what caused errno 3d0001 in some other tasks, tShell and > another task. Here is my question before I dig deeper into the code : > The function generates 3d0001 is printf(). > I have no console contact to the target. I have to telnet to it. When I > check its stdin/stdout/stderr, all of them point to fd=5. I'm using vxWorks > 5.3.1-arm, is anything wrong with WRS's telnet module? Is this errno > acceptable when I use telnet? > It seems to me that the semaphore for the device which telnet is using has > some problem. Is it a pty? Should it be initialized by WRS? > > Thanks > Freeman > > James Marshall wrote in message > news:3AB8A249.97D16907@agilent.com... > > > > It makes me very unhappy because it's not a desired behaviour. After > > > > checking the code, I found that all possible calls with time_out value > > > > NO_WAIT are msgQSend calls. I guess maybe some task which is not well > > > > synchronized is sending msgs in a loop. > > > > > > My guess is that select() is setting errno to 3d0002. After all, it > will > > > sleep against a semaphore for the timeout that you specify. If you > don't > > > have activity on any fd before the timeout, you will get 3d0002. > > > > Not quite true. There's a subtle difference in VxWorks that's already > caught us > > out. If you semTake() with NO_WAIT and the semaphore isn't available then > you get > > 3d0002, _OBJ_UNAVAILABLE. semTake() with a non-zero timeout which expires > before > > the semaphore is available returns 3d0004, OBJ_TIMEOUT. In other words > it's only > > a timeout if you asked to wait, otherwise it's just unavailable. > > > > I expect the behaviour is the same for message queues - and select() if it > uses > > semaphores. > > > > James Marshall. > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks,comp.os.msdos.desqview,comp.lang.fortran Subject: Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:41:04 +0000 (UTC) From: MK832MN57@YAHOO.COM Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: <3AB911DE.6398.unknown@proxy.twcat.edu.tw> The Internet's Finest and Most Reliable Bulk Email Provider! Since 1996, Tech Data Technologies has provided bulk email service to thousands of well-satisfied customers. 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Previously, nick caruso wrote in comp.os.qnx: > We're looking for a development environment and OS for an embedded > application, and QNX and VxWorks are both candidates at this point. I'd > be curious if anyone here who knows VxWorks would be so kind as to > contrast it with QNX. > > best regards, > Nick Caruso > Unicore Technologies Heh heh heh... Ok, first I should say that my knowledge of VxWorks is over a year old, and I dropped out of class after the first day... We (IFS) were at the same crossroads. Our requirements were: high reliability, minimal footprint, full MMU support, flash file system, x86, and gui development tools. We had narrowed our choices down to VxWorks and QNX 4. Here's the comparison Footprint: VxWorks fits into 40-50k. QNX is heftier (our .boot file is about 500k). QNX is smaller than Linux, but bigger than OS-9. CPU: VxWorks runs on practically everything. QNX 4 only runs on x86 (but QNX 6 supports PowerPC, MIPS, and maybe ARM). MMU: VxWorks had an optional component (i.e., you pay extra for it) that lets the programmer MANUALLY set protected regions in memory. QNX does virtual memory "as God intended" - each process lives in it's own protected, virtual address space. QNX is POSIX, so it handles memory just like Linux, Solaris, etc., except that it doesn't have a swap file. BTW, VxWorks doesn't have real processes like QNX. What they call tasks are really threads. You don't even get to write your own main()... your code gets compiled in with everything else - one big, happy namespace! FFS: VxWorks had a flash file system as a third party option. QNX has one-stop shopping. GUI: VxWorks had Zinc (a GUI library) and an HTML-based UI tool. QNX has Photon (think of it as a light-weight form of X Windows) and Phab (an integrated GUI application builder). Phab has definitely saved us some time. Reliability: Presumably, the VxWorks executive is flawless since there's not much to it. QNX 4 is pretty solid, but hiccups do happen. QSSL has to support a tremendous variety of PC hardware, as well as a GUI, a web browser, etc. Still, I haven't seen anything that would make me question our decision to go with QNX. Cost: Licensing costs per unit were very similar. The cost of development tools, however, was quite different. 2 VxWorks seats cost approximately $40K; 2 QNX seats (including 1 Phab seat) cost about $8K. Also, Wind River charges a "per project" fee - if you use the development tools for another project/product, you have to pay them a percentage of the original tool cost. They also have a yearly maintenance fee. My advice: If you're going to be cranking out a million widgets per year at $50 per widget, and if each widget only has to do 1 thing (like control a CD player), VxWorks may be the way to go. Otherwise, I'd recommend QNX. ... or embedded Linux. ;-) DISCLAIMER: All of the above is my opinion ONLY. My employer is not responsible. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: QNX vs vxworks: comp.os.qnx posting Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:42:25 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <_H9u6.99203$p66.28411014@news3.rdc1.on.home.com> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>>>> "James" == James Boucher writes: [snip] James> CPU: VxWorks runs on practically everything. QNX 4 only runs James> on x86 (but QNX 6 supports PowerPC, MIPS, and maybe ARM). This can be a make or break point. The ARM, MIPS and PowerPC are all superior CPUs to any x86 variants. I say this on $/mip and W/mip bases... as well as functions points / Mb. You have handicapped yourself if you don't allow processor selection. ARM/Mips are superior in power conscious applications. ARM thumb has very good code density. 68k is very cheap. James> MMU: VxWorks had an optional component (i.e., you pay extra James> for it) that lets the programmer MANUALLY set protected [..] You shouldn't need an MMU really. If you do, then perhaps you have moved beyond `embedded'. As for name space, I think that C++ and its name mangling are actually quite good at solving this. You can use C++ to create readable code that does not require module prefixes under vxWorks. James> FFS: VxWorks had a flash file system as a third party option. James> QNX has one-stop shopping. Why does it matter that it is third party? The quality of TrueFFS is fairly good after some initial pains. I have written custom Flash libraries and I would give it a `B+' mark. I definitely wouldn't write something myself... Which begs the point "vxWorks _HAS_ 3rd party software!" James> GUI: VxWorks had Zinc (a GUI library) and an HTML-based UI James> tool. QNX has Photon (think of it as a light-weight form of X James> Windows) and Phab (an integrated GUI application builder). James> Phab has definitely saved us some time. Zinc, and pJava and web browser... I think that Zinc is pretty good. However if you have this much space, you might check out Linux and MicroWindow. "http://www.microwindows.org/" James> Reliability: Presumably, the VxWorks executive is flawless I hope it is reliable! Why would you buy something that wasn't? James> Cost: Licensing costs per unit were very similar. The cost of James> development tools, however, was quite different. 2 VxWorks You get what you pay for. However, if cost is an option then you can not beat Linux! You of course neglected tools. Which vxWorks is quite good at. If you like emacs and gdb then you would use Linux. If you have several click and drool droids, then vxWorks will be better. My question is why would you consider QNX? Either vxWorks or Linux makes a better comparison. Linux supports far more CPUs than QNX, it has more software available, and it costs little. (unless the GPL is threatening). I thought that your message was somewhat polemic, so I responded in kind. fwiw, Bill Pringlemeir... - -- Mentally retarded people are perverted, huh? So, JFK is religious? Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Clist on VxWorks Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:36:56 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <985218109.878641@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AB7EEBC.E512CD95@NoSuchAddress.com> <3AB8CCA8.D82FBEC2@NoSuchAddress.com> Depending on how many features that code uses it is probably easier to write a wrapper around the STL class that provides the bahaviour of CList (the part your app requires). Maybe you can find such a thing somewhere on the net. regards werner "Newbie" wrote in message news:3AB8CCA8.D82FBEC2@NoSuchAddress.com... > Thank you all. I know what you are talking, but I am trying to port a utility > that was originally written using CList, and I just don't feel like rewriting > that chunk of codes using the std STL. Now it looks like I have to do it now > :(. > > Thanks. > > Mike Kordik wrote: > > > Do you really need CList? > > > > VxWorks (Tornado) supports the STL which has it's own list container. > > > > -Mike > > "Newbie" wrote in message > > news:3AB7EEBC.E512CD95@NoSuchAddress.com... > > > Hi All, > > > > > > Does anyone know or has ported the Mircosoft's CList to the VxWorks? Or > > > there is a site where I could find it? > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: RAM_LO, RAM_HI & Config.h Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:46:50 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <985218703.319878@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AB8E052.288F784C@siemenscomms.co.uk> LOCAL_MEM_LOCAL_ADRS is where your RAM really starts RAM_LOW_ADRS is where the VxWorks image will be loaded to RAM_HIGH_ADRS is where the data segment for the ROM resident bootrom will be loaded to So the difference does not tell you how large your memory is, this is done automatically. But make sure that the space between RAM_LOW_ADRS and RAM_HIGH_ADRS is large enough to hold the VxWorks image, or it will overwrite the bootrom while it loads the Image! hth werner "Owain Phillips" wrote in message news:3AB8E052.288F784C@siemenscomms.co.uk... > > Hi, > > I am trying to generate a new BSP for a card with a Mips processor > I have 8 Meg of SDRAM. > > I have seen that for the idts134 BSP which is similar to our processor > the following values are set up in config.h... > > LOCAL_MEM_ADRS 0x80000000 > RAM_LOW_ADRS 0x80100000 > RAM_HIGH_ADRS 0x80310000 > > How does one arrive at reasonable values for RAM_LOW_ADRS > and RAM_HIGH_ADRS? > > I want to be able to build a traditional compressed bootrom; loadable > vxworks and a rommable vxworks. So how do these addresses play > together when I build each image type? > > What lands between the base address and RAM low? > How are these memory spaces used? > > Any help appreciated. > > Owain > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: How to access MySQL database ? Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:46:31 +0100 From: "Roderik Wildenburg" Organization: MAN Roland Druckmaschinen AG Message-ID: <999io7$5qo$1@aras.mra.man.de> Does anybody know, how to access a MySQL database (running on a remote server) from vxWorks. Thanks in advance. Roderik --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: QNX vs vxworks: comp.os.qnx posting Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:02:25 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <985219639.218811@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <_H9u6.99203$p66.28411014@news3.rdc1.on.home.com> "James Boucher" wrote in message news:_H9u6.99203$p66.28411014@news3.rdc1.on.home.com... > I found this posted on comp.os.qnx. I suspect this > group might have some input. I am moving from > QNX 6 Patch B work to Vxworks and am interrested > in both sides. > > Previously, nick caruso wrote in comp.os.qnx: > > We're looking for a development environment and OS for an embedded > > application, and QNX and VxWorks are both candidates at this point. I'd > > be curious if anyone here who knows VxWorks would be so kind as to > > contrast it with QNX. > > > > best regards, > > Nick Caruso > > Unicore Technologies > > Heh heh heh... > > Ok, first I should say that my knowledge of VxWorks is over a year old, > and I dropped out of class after the first day... > > We (IFS) were at the same crossroads. Our requirements were: high > reliability, minimal footprint, full MMU support, flash file system, x86, > and gui development tools. We had narrowed our choices down to VxWorks and > QNX 4. > > Here's the comparison > > Footprint: > VxWorks fits into 40-50k. QNX is heftier (our .boot file is about 500k). > QNX is smaller than Linux, but bigger than OS-9. I think 40-50k is a pretty minimal VxWorks image, if you want to use networking and other fancy things, don't expect that this will suffice. > > CPU: > VxWorks runs on practically everything. QNX 4 only runs on x86 (but QNX > 6 supports PowerPC, MIPS, and maybe ARM). > No matter if you need other CPUs than x86 right now - we do not - you never know what the future brings. Having the options to change to another architecture is a major advantage from my point of view. > MMU: > VxWorks had an optional component (i.e., you pay extra for it) that lets > the programmer MANUALLY set protected regions in memory. QNX does virtual > memory "as God intended" - each process lives in it's own protected, virtual > address space. QNX is POSIX, so it handles memory just like Linux, Solaris, > etc., except that it doesn't have a swap file. BTW, VxWorks doesn't have > real processes like QNX. What they call tasks are really threads. You > don't even get to write your own main()... your code gets compiled in with > everything else - one big, happy namespace! > Tornado AE and VxWorks 6.0 will add a feature call 'Protection domains', the windriver way of doing processes. Check out more details on the WindRiver home page. > FFS: > VxWorks had a flash file system as a third party option. QNX has > one-stop shopping. > > GUI: > VxWorks had Zinc (a GUI library) and an HTML-based UI tool. QNX has > Photon (think of it as a light-weight form of X Windows) and Phab (an > integrated GUI application builder). Phab has definitely saved us some > time. > Zinc is not that bad a tool for an embedded target. It depends, of course, on what you intend to do. I'm not extremely experienced with Zinc, but you will need to provide more details to find out more, I think... > Reliability: > Presumably, the VxWorks executive is flawless since there's not much to > it. QNX 4 is pretty solid, but hiccups do happen. QSSL has to support a > tremendous variety of PC hardware, as well as a GUI, a web browser, etc. > Still, I haven't seen anything that would make me question our decision to > go with QNX. > If the hiccups happen in the OS this would not sound promising... > Cost: > Licensing costs per unit were very similar. The cost of development > tools, however, was quite different. 2 VxWorks seats cost approximately > $40K; 2 QNX seats (including 1 Phab seat) cost about $8K. Also, Wind River > charges a "per project" fee - if you use the development tools for another > project/product, you have to pay them a percentage of the original tool > cost. They also have a yearly maintenance fee. > You need to discuss the pricing, if you intend to buy more than one licence. The maintenance subscription includes upgrades as well (as far as I know). > > My advice: > If you're going to be cranking out a million widgets per year at $50 per > widget, and if each widget only has to do 1 thing (like control a CD > player), VxWorks may be the way to go. Otherwise, I'd recommend QNX. > ... or embedded Linux. ;-) > Cannot comment on Embedded Linux, but WindRiver has some neat tools for embedded software development. You can definitely not compare Tornado with a bunch of command line tools and printf-debugging. regards werner --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: vxWorks hangs on MCP750 board Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 01:34:50 GMT From: "th & yz" Organization: Optimum Online Message-ID: <_Ecu6.267121$Vj5.35001008@news02.optonline.net> References: <99abv9$roe$1@newshost.mot.com> make clean and put -O2 in compiler option. It may help. Venkatesh JS wrote in message <99abv9$roe$1@newshost.mot.com>... >hi, > >I tried to run vxworks on MCP750 board using default MCP750 BSP provided by >windriver when we purchased tornado 2. But after downloading the vxworks >image, board just hangs after this message > >...Starting at 0x100000 > > >I have 16MB memory on target and my RAM_LOW_ADRS and RAM_HIGH_ADRS reflect >this in makefile/config.h and T2 workspace also. > >Any solution for this problem ? > >, >venkat > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: ROTS pros/cons Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:43:30 -0600 From: "Vihang Jani" Organization: Motorola CIG Message-ID: <99bosi$6ag4@nntp.cig.mot.com> Guys, Is there any good site for diffrent RTOS pros/cons? Thanks in Advance Vihang Jani --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: re: measure cpu load in vxworks Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:50:20 +0530 From: "Gokul Gopalasamy" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99c5ae$gl2$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi Wei-Hsin, Pls. try the SpyLib as the manual suggets. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- VxWorks Reference Manual : Libraries spyLib NAME spyLib - spy CPU activity library ROUTINES spyLibInit( ) - initialize task cpu utilization tool package DESCRIPTION This library provides a facility to monitor tasks' use of the CPU. The primary interface routine, spy( ), periodically calls spyReport( ) to display the amount of CPU time utilized by each task, the amount of time spent at interrupt level, the amount of time spent in the kernel, and the amount of idle time. It also displays the total usage since the start of spy( ) (or the last call to spyClkStart( )), and the change in usage since the last spyReport( ). CPU usage can also be monitored manually by calling spyClkStart( ) and spyReport( ), instead of spy( ). In this case, spyReport( ) provides a one-time report of the same information provided by spy( ). Data is gathered by an interrupt-level routine that is connected by spyClkStart( ) to the auxiliary clock. Currently, this facility cannot be used with CPUs that have no auxiliary clock. Interrupts that are at a higher level than the auxiliary clock's interrupt level cannot be monitored. All user interface routine except spyLibInit( ) are available through usrLib. EXAMPLE The following call: -> spy 10, 200 will generate a report in the following format every 10 seconds, gathering data at the rate of 200 times per second. NAME ENTRY TID PRI total % (ticks) delta % (ticks) -------- -------- ----- --- --------------- - --------------- tExcTask _excTask fbb58 0 0% ( 0) 0% ( 0) tLogTask _logTask fa6e0 0 0% ( 0) 0% ( 0) tShell _shell e28a8 1 0% ( 4) 0% ( 0) tRlogind _rlogind f08dc 2 0% ( 0) 0% ( 0) tRlogOutTask _rlogOutTa e93e0 2 2% ( 173) 2% ( 46) tRlogInTask _rlogInTas e7f10 2 0% ( 0) 0% ( 0) tSpyTask _spyTask ffe9c 5 1% ( 116) 1% ( 28) tNetTask _netTask f3e2c 50 0% ( 4) 0% ( 1) tPortmapd _portmapd ef240 100 0% ( 0) 0% ( 0) KERNEL 1% ( 105) 0% ( 10) INTERRUPT 0% ( 0) 0% ( 0) IDLE 95% ( 7990) 95% ( 1998) TOTAL 99% ( 8337) 98% ( 2083) The "total" column reflects CPU activity since the initial call to spy( ) or the last call to spyClkStart( ). The "delta" column reflects activity since the previous report. A call to spyReport( ) will produce a single report; however, the initial auxiliary clock interrupts and data collection must first be started using spyClkStart( ). Data collection/clock interrupts and periodic reporting are stopped by calling: -> spyStop INCLUDE FILES spyLib.h SEE ALSO spyLib, usrLib *************************************************************** Hope this would be helpful for you. rgds Gokul --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Tornado Prototyper on window ME, does it work? Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:43:56 GMT From: "Ming Tai" Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: Hi , I just got a new PC running window ME, I am wondering if I can run Tornado Prototyper with Networking supports on this OS. I look up WR web site, it state that Tornado Prototyper with Networking supports only run on window NT. Is this true ? If it is, any way to get around it ? Any pointer will help! Thanks in advance! Ming --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Software floating point on i386EX target Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:51:42 GMT From: "Corey Ashford" Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: References: <99a6e5$9bj2@esiami.tsai.es> I have a few comments, see ### below: "Ignacio González" wrote in message news:99a6e5$9bj2@esiami.tsai.es... > > Dear colleagues: > > We are having problems trying to use floating point functions > with VxWorks 5.4 & Tornado 2.0. Can anybody help us? > > Our target is a 386EX custom board that works OK in every aspect, > save for this problem. As we don't have math coprocessor, we are > using the SW emulation library. > > We have made an OS image with: > #define INCLUDE_SW_FP > #define INCLUDE_HW_FP > > In these conditions, the target hangs when executing the function: > > mathHardInit (); ### This is understandable because INCLUDE_HW_FP causes mathHardInit to be called which attempts to initialize the FP hardware, which you don't have. > > ... and we are also hung. > > If we dare to make things such as these: > #define INCLUDE_SW_FP > #undef INCLUDE_HW_FP ### This should be the right way. You should contact Wind River's support with the error message you're seeing. > > ... then every floating point operation results in an error message > sent to the console. For instance, > > (Shell) > -> sin(3.02) > value = 32 = 0x20 = ' ' > > (Console) > 0x760f4 (t1): ERROR - floating point math not initialized! > > We have also disassemblied some functions: > -> l sin > _sin > 03feda50 a1 e4 8c 00 00 MOV EAX, 0x8ce4 > 03feda55 ff e0 JMP EAX > 03feda57 8d 36 LEA ESI, [ESI] > 03feda59 8d b4 26 00 00 00 00 LEA ESI, [ESI+0] > > -> l 0x8CE4 > _mathSinFunc > 00008ce4 80 dc fe SBB AH, 0xfe > _mathSinhFunc > 00008cec 80 dc fe SBB AH, 0xfe > _mathTanFunc > 00008cf4 80 dc fe SBB AH, 0xfe > _mathTruncFunc > 00008cfc 80 dc fe SBB AH, 0xfe > _mathFasinFunc > 00008d04 80 dc fe SBB AH, 0xfe > > Curious, isn't it? ### Not too curious. You're missing a level of indirection there. The address you should be disassembling is 03fedc80. Note that I'm presuming the first address byte is 03 (your disassembly of data rather than code shows only the least significant three bytes). > > Any hint? Isn't anybody using an Intel-like board w/o math > coprocessor or what? Are we the poorest developers on Earth? > > Thanks in advance > > Ignacio González > igtorque AINSIDEO eliop DOT es > > > ### Good luck with Wind River support. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: interrupts Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:00:19 +0200 From: "uri nadav" Organization: Internet Gold, ISRAEL Message-ID: <99cbl8$j9u$1@news3.inter.net.il> When I have an Interrupt, running VxWorks on 8260, is it going to jump directly to the interrupt routine, or is it going to run some OS code first ?(I think it should jump directly, but I wanna make sure) thanks. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Timer Problems Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:56:49 +0530 From: "Cash " Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99ccbd$jv6$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi all, I'm a newbie in VxWorks, here's an error I am repeatedly getting in trying to download a small program on to an (486)X86 target... Errors while downloading D:/vx/target/proj/usr_projects/project0/default/try0.o: _timer_create this error comes whenever I use the POSIX timer function timer_create..... here's a simplified version of my code which also gives errors.... #include #include int try() { timer_t tim1; void init(); void display(int,int,int); timer_create(CLOCK_REALTIME,NULL,&tim1); return 0; } I think I am missing some link on POSIX compliancy out here, can you fellows help me out?? With regards & thanx.... _____________________________________________ Forward your email to one or multiple addresses at www.mail-x-change.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: interrupts Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:30:02 +0100 From: Emmanuel Herbreteau Organization: SEPRO Robotique (BEP) Message-ID: <3AB9B80A.86CE134A@sepro-robotique.com> References: <99cbl8$j9u$1@news3.inter.net.il> uri nadav wrote: > When I have an Interrupt, running VxWorks on 8260, is it going to jump > directly to the > interrupt routine, or is it going to run some OS code first ? Hi, IMHO, I'm quite sure that PPC core has only one interrupt source and that the interrupt vector are multiplexed by the OS : - - an interrupt occurs - - the PPC run the interrupt handler (OS) - - the OS find the interrupt source (SIVEC) - - the OS branch to the appropriate interrupt handler ... but i'm not a PPC guru ! (cf "PPC 823 datasheet" , page 12-10) Regards Emmanuel --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: loading vxworks in RAM Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:39:52 +0100 From: Emmanuel Herbreteau Organization: SEPRO Robotique (BEP) Message-ID: <3AB9BA58.9E4AD094@sepro-robotique.com> Hi, My project use 2 vxworks images : - - a minimal ROM_resident image, in 256KB flash-ROM, which start at power-up and initialize the compact-flash support (dosFs) - - a RAM image (with Zinc, Network, etc...) . I want the ROM_resident to load it from compact-flash to RAM, and then start it up. Does anyone know how to do this ? I tried the following code, but the "loadModuleAt" function return NULL (bad file format ?). Any ideas ? - -- Regards Emmanuel /* entry=0x0002 0000 */ /* fileName ="/pcmcia/boot/vxworks" */ LOCAL STATUS loadKernl (char *fileName,UINT32 entry) { int fd; MODULE_ID moduleId; SEGMENT_ID segmentId; char * pText = (char *) entry; char * pData = (char *) entry; char * pBss = (char *) entry; int textSize; int dataSize; fd = open (fileName, O_RDONLY, 0); if ( fd == ERROR) return (ERROR); moduleId = loadModuleAt (fd, LOAD_NO_SYMBOLS, &pText, &pData, &pBss); if ( moduleId == NULL) goto loadKernelErr; segmentId = moduleSegFirst (moduleId); while (segmentId != NULL) { switch(segmentId->type) { case SEGMENT_TEXT: textSize = segmentId->size; break; case SEGMENT_DATA: dataSize = segmentId->size; break; case SEGMENT_BSS: break; default: goto loadKernelErr; } segmentId = moduleSegNext(segmentId); } pText = (char *) entry; pData = pText + textSize; pBss = pData + dataSize; moduleId = loadModuleAt (fd, LOAD_NO_SYMBOLS, &pText, &pData, &pBss); if ( moduleId == NULL) goto loadKernelErr; close (fd); ((FUNCPTR) pText) (); loadKernelErr: close (fd); return (ERROR); } --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How do I get the default gateway address using VxWorks API? Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:51:16 +0900 From: "Jinwoo Kim" Organization: Korea Telecom Message-ID: <99ce81$iqq$1@news1.kornet.net> References: <99a61e$jll$1@overload.lbl.gov> You can add gateway address to on the vxWorks like this. on the config.h define DEFAULT_BOOT_LINE \ "net(0,0)host:/vxWorks *************** g=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx *******************" g : gateway address * : other options like host, user id ......etc "Nagasesha Reddy" wrote in message news:99a61e$jll$1@overload.lbl.gov... > Hi, > Is there any vxworks routine to get the default > gateway address on a vxworks target? > > thanks, > Seshu > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: How to implement fixed location when build a bootable project Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:59:27 +0800 From: "lhp" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99cfru$l75$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi, everyone, We use Tornado 2 and VxWorks 5.4 for PowerPC. I know in pSOS+ you can use an explicit link file to locate part of data segment to a fixed address, for example, we can use .usrdata: { usrdata_start = .; data.obj (.data) usrdata_end = .; } > mem3 to locate user configuration data in data.c to the begin of mem3. Now we also have this requirement in Vxworks. But how to implement it? Tornado builds(compiles and links) VxWorks image according to the rule files in directory target/config/h/make/. For example, in defs.vxWorks (vxWorks default makefile definitions), it defines as following (partly) LD_ROM_RES_FLAGS= $(ROM_LDFLAGS) -Ttext $(ROM_TEXT_ADRS) \ -Tdata $(RAM_LOW_ADRS) CC_ROM_RES_FLAGS= -DROM_RESIDENT \ ¨CDRAM_DATA_ADRS=0x$(RAM_LOW_ADRS) \ -DRAM_DST_ADRS=0x$(RAM_LOW_ADRS) These definitons will be used to build a rom_resident vxWorks bootable image. And the text segment will begin from ROM_TEXT_ADRS and the data segment will begin from RAM_LOW_ADRS. We think that is not flexible. For example, in our sytem the begin address of SDRAM is 0x0, the end of SDRAM is 0xFFFFF, and we make RAM_LOW_ADRS = 0x20000, which is in the SDRAM range. And we use an extra NV RAM which begin from 0x100000 just after the end of SDRAM. The NV RAM is used to store some important configuraton data, including software version information. In our system, data.c contains all the configuration data. All the configuraiton datas are defined as global variants in data.c. (For example , I defines a global variant ¡°UINT softVersion = 1.1; ¡° in file data.c.) In this case, we want to locate the data segment of data.c to 0x100000 and locate all othter data segment normally to RAM_LOW_ADRS every time when we build our VxWorks image. If so, every time we change our software, we need not to change the content of NV RAM. The software and the configuration data are separate. But up to now, all the data segments begin from RAM_LOW_ADRS, and we don¡¯t know how to locate the data segment of data.c to 0x100000 immovebaly. How to do it? I know that ld utility has a -T commandfile option. But I don't know how to add this option to ld or how to write the link file for VxWorks. And when build a rom_copy Vxworks bootable iamge, Tornado will perform 2 links. One for subimage, one for the final image. How can I control everything on link? --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: loading vxworks in RAM Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:14:25 +0100 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <985256361.404478@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <3AB9BA58.9E4AD094@sepro-robotique.com> I think this is the standard behaviour of VxWorks So what is the matter? You compile a normal boot line to reside in ROM (your minimal image, in fact, a bootrom is a minimal image) and set the default boot line to what is appropriate to load that image. Than you make your image, place it where you desire and the system works... No need to haszle the way you intended... hth werner "Emmanuel Herbreteau" wrote in message news:3AB9BA58.9E4AD094@sepro-robotique.com... > Hi, > > My project use 2 vxworks images : > > - a minimal ROM_resident image, in 256KB flash-ROM, > which start at power-up and initialize the compact-flash > support (dosFs) > > - a RAM image (with Zinc, Network, etc...) . > I want the ROM_resident to load it from compact-flash to RAM, > and then start it up. > > Does anyone know how to do this ? > I tried the following code, but the "loadModuleAt" function > return NULL (bad file format ?). Any ideas ? > > -- > Regards > Emmanuel > > > > /* entry=0x0002 0000 */ > /* fileName ="/pcmcia/boot/vxworks" */ > LOCAL STATUS loadKernl (char *fileName,UINT32 entry) { > int fd; MODULE_ID moduleId; > SEGMENT_ID segmentId; > char * pText = (char *) entry; > char * pData = (char *) entry; > char * pBss = (char *) entry; > int textSize; > int dataSize; > > fd = open (fileName, O_RDONLY, 0); > if ( fd == ERROR) return (ERROR); > > moduleId = loadModuleAt (fd, LOAD_NO_SYMBOLS, &pText, &pData, > &pBss); > > if ( moduleId == NULL) goto loadKernelErr; > segmentId = moduleSegFirst (moduleId); > while (segmentId != NULL) > { > switch(segmentId->type) > { > case SEGMENT_TEXT: > textSize = segmentId->size; > break; > case SEGMENT_DATA: > dataSize = segmentId->size; > break; > case SEGMENT_BSS: > break; > default: > goto loadKernelErr; > } > segmentId = moduleSegNext(segmentId); > } > pText = (char *) entry; > pData = pText + textSize; > pBss = pData + dataSize; > moduleId = loadModuleAt (fd, LOAD_NO_SYMBOLS, &pText, &pData, > &pBss); > if ( moduleId == NULL) goto loadKernelErr; > close (fd); > ((FUNCPTR) pText) (); > > loadKernelErr: > close (fd); > return (ERROR); > } --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: QNX vs vxworks: comp.os.qnx posting Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:08:10 GMT From: "James Boucher" Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: References: <_H9u6.99203$p66.28411014@news3.rdc1.on.home.com> Bill>I thought that your message was somewhat polemic, so I responded in kind. Please don't get me wrong. I cut and pasted this message off comp.os.qnx. I DID NOT WRITE IT. I posted it here to get the exact balanced input that you have given. Thanks. Note, if you went to comp.os.qnx this thread has a bunch more vxworks bashing going on. Maybe you could reply on that group? Thanks, Jim "Bill Pringlemeir" wrote in message news:ubsquybw3.fsf@yahoo.com... > >>>>> "James" == James Boucher writes: > [snip] > James> CPU: VxWorks runs on practically everything. QNX 4 only runs > James> on x86 (but QNX 6 supports PowerPC, MIPS, and maybe ARM). > > This can be a make or break point. The ARM, MIPS and PowerPC are all > superior CPUs to any x86 variants. I say this on $/mip and W/mip > bases... as well as functions points / Mb. You have handicapped > yourself if you don't allow processor selection. > > ARM/Mips are superior in power conscious applications. ARM thumb has > very good code density. 68k is very cheap. > > James> MMU: VxWorks had an optional component (i.e., you pay extra > James> for it) that lets the programmer MANUALLY set protected > [..] > > You shouldn't need an MMU really. If you do, then perhaps you have > moved beyond `embedded'. As for name space, I think that C++ and its > name mangling are actually quite good at solving this. You can use > C++ to create readable code that does not require module prefixes > under vxWorks. > > James> FFS: VxWorks had a flash file system as a third party option. > James> QNX has one-stop shopping. > > Why does it matter that it is third party? The quality of TrueFFS is > fairly good after some initial pains. I have written custom Flash > libraries and I would give it a `B+' mark. I definitely wouldn't > write something myself... Which begs the point "vxWorks _HAS_ 3rd > party software!" > > James> GUI: VxWorks had Zinc (a GUI library) and an HTML-based UI > James> tool. QNX has Photon (think of it as a light-weight form of X > James> Windows) and Phab (an integrated GUI application builder). > James> Phab has definitely saved us some time. > > Zinc, and pJava and web browser... I think that Zinc is pretty good. > However if you have this much space, you might check out Linux and > MicroWindow. "http://www.microwindows.org/" > > James> Reliability: Presumably, the VxWorks executive is flawless > > I hope it is reliable! Why would you buy something that wasn't? > > James> Cost: Licensing costs per unit were very similar. The cost of > James> development tools, however, was quite different. 2 VxWorks > > You get what you pay for. However, if cost is an option then you can > not beat Linux! > > You of course neglected tools. Which vxWorks is quite good at. If > you like emacs and gdb then you would use Linux. If you have several > click and drool droids, then vxWorks will be better. > > My question is why would you consider QNX? Either vxWorks or Linux > makes a better comparison. Linux supports far more CPUs than QNX, it > has more software available, and it costs little. (unless the GPL is > threatening). > > I thought that your message was somewhat polemic, so I responded in kind. > > fwiw, > Bill Pringlemeir... > > -- > Mentally retarded people are perverted, huh? So, JFK is religious? > Useful vxWorks URLS, > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" > "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: T2.02 with 82559 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:15:34 +0100 From: "Stephan Lachnicht" Organization: 'FH Gelsenkirchen, Abt. Bocholt' Message-ID: <99cq9u$op2$1@Merlin.et.bocholt.fh-gelsenkirchen.de> Hi Friends, until now we used the Tornado II on our X86 with the eeE driver from Intel. Has somebody used the Tornado 2.02 upgrade with the Intel 82559 Lan Chip? Can we use windriver driver or is it still better to use the Intel driver? thanks and regards Stephan --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Tornado Prototyper help !! Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:49:42 +0000 (UTC) From: iit_ms@yahoo.com (Manoj Kumar) Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: <3AB9EB69.71451322@yahoo.com> As a beginner in VxWorks, I would like to know your suggestions about small projects that can be done in Tornado Prototyper. Any URLs would also be helpful. This is for learning purposes only !!! I am running Tornado Prototyper on Windows for now... Thanks in advance. - -- Posted from [216.52.49.35] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Tornado Prototyper help !! Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:49:59 +0000 (UTC) From: iit_ms@yahoo.com (Manoj Kumar) Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: <3AB9EB80.CCB6F8B0@yahoo.com> As a beginner in VxWorks, I would like to know your suggestions about small projects that can be done in Tornado Prototyper. Any URLs would also be helpful. This is for learning purposes only !!! I am running Tornado Prototyper on Windows for now... Thanks in advance. - -- Posted from [216.52.49.35] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Help with Tornado Prototyper !!! Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:51:45 +0000 (UTC) From: iit_ms@yahoo.com (Manoj Kumar) Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: <3AB9ECCC.D9942C4C@yahoo.com> As a beginner in VxWorks, I would like to know your suggestions about what small projects I can do with Tornado Prototyper. This is for learning purposes only (for good understanding of VxWorks). URLs would also help. TIA. - -- Posted from [216.52.49.35] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: a BSP for 8260 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:48:22 +0200 From: "uri nadav" Organization: Internet Gold, ISRAEL Message-ID: <99d01r$qvc$1@news3.inter.net.il> Hello, Does anyone know a company or free lancer in Israel that developes BSP's for 8260 boards for VxWorks? --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How to implement fixed location when build a bootable project Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:26:48 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <99cfru$l75$1@overload.lbl.gov> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>>>> "lhp" == lhp writes: lhp> Hi, everyone, We use Tornado 2 and VxWorks 5.4 for PowerPC. lhp> I know in pSOS+ you can use an explicit link file to locate part lhp> of data segment to a fixed address, for example, we can use [gnu linker script?] lhp> to locate user configuration data in data.c to the begin of lhp> mem3. lhp> Now we also have this requirement in Vxworks. But how to lhp> implement it? There are several ways to accomplish this. How you do it would depend on your system. For instance, is ROM/RAM scarce? Do you have a disk device or a network connection. Do you wish to have this relocation done for a static object. If it is the last, then you can use a linker file. From a make file, you can add to "LD...FLAGS" after including the build rules. LDFLAGS += -T lbl.gov.lnk ROM_LDFLAGS += -T lbl.gov.lnk LD_LOW_FLAGS += -T lbl.gov.lnk This is simply a gnu linker file. You can also add an option to ld$(TOOL) (eg ldarm, ldppc, ld68k, etc) that will give you the default linker file. See the documentation on LD for more. To produce a binary file, see some messages from yesterday... hth, Bill Pringlemeir... - -- Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: create scripts or progs and run inside the shell Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:09:03 -0600 From: "Michael Imberman" Organization: Nortel Networks Message-ID: <99d805$rji$1@crchh14.us.nortel.com> I need to test out the ftp functionality in VxWorks and am curious if there is a way to create a script while in the shell? Also, is there a way to write a little snippet of code and maybe compile that inside the shell and run it? I know you can run functions inside the shell using !, is there a way to declare vars inside the shell? Bascially I would test the ftpXfer() command. Mike --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks,comp.os.qnx Subject: Re: QNX vs vxworks: comp.os.qnx posting Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:34:00 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <_H9u6.99203$p66.28411014@news3.rdc1.on.home.com> James Boucher wrote in message ... >Bill>I thought that your message was somewhat polemic, so I responded in >kind. > >Please don't get me wrong. I cut and pasted this message off >comp.os.qnx. I DID NOT WRITE IT. I posted it here to >get the exact balanced input that you have given. Thanks. >Note, if you went to comp.os.qnx this thread has a bunch >more vxworks bashing going on. Maybe you could >reply on that group? Why don't we all invade comp.os.qnx? We could use big processors and proper architecture and refuse to code as those ruffians do? DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: interrupts Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:36:33 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <99cbl8$j9u$1@news3.inter.net.il> <3AB9B80A.86CE134A@sepro-robotique.com> Emmanuel Herbreteau wrote in message <3AB9B80A.86CE134A@sepro-robotique.com>... >uri nadav wrote: >> When I have an Interrupt, running VxWorks on 8260, is it going to jump >> directly to the >> interrupt routine, or is it going to run some OS code first ? >IMHO, I'm quite sure that PPC core has only one interrupt source >and that the interrupt vector are multiplexed by the OS : > >- an interrupt occurs >- the PPC run the interrupt handler (OS) >- the OS find the interrupt source (SIVEC) >- the OS branch to the appropriate interrupt handler > >... but i'm not a PPC guru ! (cf "PPC 823 datasheet" , page 12-10) You're completely right, though. For further information, look up intArchLib and particularly intConnect in the VxWorks Libraries reference manual. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what's objLib? Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:04:49 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <99db1g$s61$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <98ldn6$s7r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <984518665.536737@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <98o8n9$l7k$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <997vlk$gfg$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <3AB8A249.97D16907@agilent.com> <99ad73$56e$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <3AB91244.94553828@lmco.com> Now, in my code, the suspect of ERRNO 0x3d0002 is select(), since it was passed a timeout value of 0. So it should set the errno when it tries to take a semaphore, just as Keith said. Actually, it's not exactly a function returning ERROR, it's a function setting ERRNO. There is no NULL. I think 3d0001 is an errno which shouldn't happen, but it seems 3d0002 is acceptable or inevitable if you try to access to a system object but don't want to wait. Joe Durusau wrote in message news:3AB91244.94553828@lmco.com... > I'm getting confused. Is some function returning ERROR or NULL when > it shouldn't? If so, which one? > > Speaking only for myself, > > Joe Durusau > > > "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" wrote: > > > > Yes, I can find what James said in the manual. So, if what WRS said is true, > > then... > > > > Now, I've found what caused errno 3d0001 in some other tasks, tShell and > > another task. Here is my question before I dig deeper into the code : > > The function generates 3d0001 is printf(). > > I have no console contact to the target. I have to telnet to it. When I > > check its stdin/stdout/stderr, all of them point to fd=5. I'm using vxWorks > > 5.3.1-arm, is anything wrong with WRS's telnet module? Is this errno > > acceptable when I use telnet? > > It seems to me that the semaphore for the device which telnet is using has > > some problem. Is it a pty? Should it be initialized by WRS? > > > > Thanks > > Freeman > > > > James Marshall wrote in message > > news:3AB8A249.97D16907@agilent.com... > > > > > It makes me very unhappy because it's not a desired behaviour. After > > > > > checking the code, I found that all possible calls with time_out value > > > > > NO_WAIT are msgQSend calls. I guess maybe some task which is not well > > > > > synchronized is sending msgs in a loop. > > > > > > > > My guess is that select() is setting errno to 3d0002. After all, it > > will > > > > sleep against a semaphore for the timeout that you specify. If you > > don't > > > > have activity on any fd before the timeout, you will get 3d0002. > > > > > > Not quite true. There's a subtle difference in VxWorks that's already > > caught us > > > out. If you semTake() with NO_WAIT and the semaphore isn't available then > > you get > > > 3d0002, _OBJ_UNAVAILABLE. semTake() with a non-zero timeout which expires > > before > > > the semaphore is available returns 3d0004, OBJ_TIMEOUT. In other words > > it's only > > > a timeout if you asked to wait, otherwise it's just unavailable. > > > > > > I expect the behaviour is the same for message queues - and select() if it > > uses > > > semaphores. > > > > > > James Marshall. > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: SimNt and WindML Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:20:55 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck In the WindML (UGL2.0) documents, it says to include a file `ugl_WinLib.o' in the vxWorks image. I have installed WindML (for simnt and others), but there is no `ugl_WinLib.o' file. A header file by the same name exists. I beleive that this object contains the function for the UGL screen driver on the simulator. Does anyone know where this is, or did my install not work correctly. regards, Bill Pringlemeir. - -- Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: SimNt and WindML Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:39:31 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>>>> "Bill" == Bill Pringlemeir writes: Bill> In the WindML (UGL2.0) documents, it says to include a file Bill> `ugl_WinLib.o' in the vxWorks image. Does anyone know where Bill> this is, or did my install not work correctly. This file is now called `simLib.o' (thank-you objdump and grep)... regards, Bill - -- How do we make long-term thinking automatic and common instead of difficult and rare? - Stewart Brand --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Two Masters + Two NICs on a PCI Bus Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:01:03 -0800 From: "Mark Ewert" Organization: Intel Corporation Message-ID: <99di5g$njq@news.or.intel.com> We have a design in which two master cards and two slave NICs reside on a single PCI bus. We would like each master to be able to talk to its corresponding NIC at the same time, we also would like the masters to be able to talk to eachother. Two questions: 1) Is it feasible to have two masters on a single PCI bus with the same BAR addresses? 2) If (1) is feasible, what would an appropriate PCI memory map would be? The current idea is to have something like: master1 PCI space: master2 PCI space: - -------------------- ------------------- master1 master2 NIC1 NIC2 Currently I can only get one master/NIC to work at the same time. One of the errors that I'm seeing is "tNetTask: Panic: where are those rfd buffers" when the second master tries to run. I'm new at doing PCI drivers, any comments/suggestions are greatly appreciated. Mark. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How to execute a Target Shell command from VxWorks Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:54:36 GMT From: ranjana@surfree.com (Ranjana Shah) Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <3aba57a9.22202264@news.surfree.com> References: <3ab792aa.14128676@news.surfree.com> Reply-To: ranjana@surfree.com Keith Arner wrote: >On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Ranjana Shah wrote: > >> Does anyone know of an easy way to execute a shell commnad from a >> VxWorks task that receives a batch of shell commands from a user? > >Call execute(). Be careful, though, as execute() is not thread-safe. > >Keith > Please elaborate. I am not familiar with execute(). I could not even find it in the vxworks documentation. I have been trying to simulate what telnet does by using ptyDrv to create the pty devices and setting target shell's STD_IN to that device using shellOrigStdSet( ). But no luck so far. Any help will be appreciated. Ranjana Shah --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Help with Tornado Prototyper !!! Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:01:25 +0100 From: "Martin Raabe" Organization: T-Online Message-ID: <99dln2$k38$03$1@news.t-online.com> References: <3AB9ECCC.D9942C4C@yahoo.com> Hello Manoj, see the Getting Started Manual for the file cobble.c in the $WIND_BASE/target/src/demo/start folder. Generate a downloadable application and have it run on the Simulator. It contains some intended bugs and the solutions are described in the Manual! Speaking for my own, not for my employer! Ciao Martin "Manoj Kumar" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:3AB9ECCC.D9942C4C@yahoo.com... > As a beginner in VxWorks, I would like to know your suggestions about > what small projects I can do with Tornado Prototyper. This is for > learning purposes only (for good understanding of VxWorks). URLs would > also help. > > TIA. > > -- > Posted from [216.52.49.35] > via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Tornado2 Windview Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:59:50 -0800 From: Bruce Wilson Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: Has anyone fixed the following problem with Windview 2.01 running on Tornado2? My host is a Sun Ultra60 running Solaris 2.7, and the target is a Force cpci-3603. I'm using the default system tick of 60 Hz. The windview graph shows a taskDelay(sysClkRateGet()*10) as lasting 10.8 seconds, whereas reading the TimeBase register before and after the taskDelay call shows that it really took 10.05 seconds. This was run on an otherwise idle processor. That's about an 8 percent error. Am I expecting too much, thinking it should show times more accurately than that? Bruce A. Wilson U.C. Lawrence Livermore National Lab P.O. Box 808 (L-278) Livermore, CA 94550 voice: (925) 422-4145 fax: (925) 423-1243 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: dosFS2 & tarArchive Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:17:50 -0500 From: "Garner, David (N-Progeny Systems Corp)" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99dtie$gas$1@overload.lbl.gov> VxWorks, Tornado I'm running T2 CP3 on a 2308 with the dosFS2 patch. However, the function: tarArchive is not linked into VxWorks. Can anyone tell me how this can happen? Is there an additional macro to turn on to add the tar commands? Thanks, Dave Garner Lockheed Martin --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: cc1plus fatal signal 125? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 00:20:59 GMT From: phowell@not.uiuc.edu (Phillip Howell) Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <906CBD844phowelluiucedu@24.179.208.88> References: <99dig9$tqv$1@news.netmar.com> PleaseReplyTo@Newsgroup.com wrote: >Hi VxWorks and Tornado users, > >I'm running GNU CC version 2.7.2 (as provided by WindRiver) >in a Microsoft VC++ 6.0 DevStudio makefile project and get >the following error for some (but not all) of the *.cpp files: > >>ccppc: Internal compiler error: program cc1plus got fatal signal >>125 > >Anyone know how I can find out what "fatal signal 125" means? I think this is a stack overflow error. You can work around the problem by turning optimzation off, but I have no idea what the actual fix is. - -pkh --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: How to get DNS server addr & default gateway addr from a DHCP server Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:06:35 +0900 From: "Yong-jae Kim" Organization: Inet Internet Services Message-ID: <99eb5q$quj$1@news.nuri.net> Hi, I want my target to work as a DHCP client. It successfully gets client IP and server IP address from a linux DHCP server using functions like "dhcpcBootParamsGet"(on booting) or "dhcpcParamsGet"(after booting). But, I don't know how to get DNS server address and default gateway address from a DHCP server. plz give me some example code of getting them. I've tried many ways using "dhcpcOptionGet" function, but it doesn't work. plz help me. TIA. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: WTX AGENT_COMMUNICATION_ERROR Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:54:58 -0800 From: jgou@minervanetworks.com (Jim Gou) Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99eild$o7$1@overload.lbl.gov> All, While I am trying to download an .out on to my Pentium target, I got a message " WTX ERROR 0x100de (AGENT_COMMUNICATION_ERROR). I looked wtxerr.h header file. I couldn't figure out what's going. Does anybody have clue on this? I am using Tornado 2 x86 IDE. The target is Pentium II based controller module from Pep Modular Computers. I have no problem do any regular commands, such as "i", "memShow", etc. in Shell. But after I compiled a simple HelloApp, I got above error. Ironically, the same HelloApp, I've tested on other PII based module. It works fine. So I guess most likely my target server has some problem. But I verified couple of time and I believe it was correct. Does anybody know anything about AGENT_COMMUNICATION_ERROR? Thanks in advance. Jim Gou (408)904-1218 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: cc1plus fatal signal 125? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:24:44 +0100 From: Albert Wijnja Organization: MECO Equipment Engineers BV Message-ID: <3ABAFA3C.BE9EDFCB@meco.nl> References: <99dig9$tqv$1@news.netmar.com> <906CBD844phowelluiucedu@24.179.208.88> Reply-To: Albert.Wijnja@meco.nl Hi, I also noticed that if you have an if-statemen with multiple evaluations and the evaluations are function-calls the compiler also trips with the internal compiler-error. E.g. if ((!foo()) && (foo2() != 3)) { } Will give an internal compiler error. If you split-up the statement, like: if (!foo()) { if (foo2() != 3) { } } you will have a workaround for the compiler-bug. Note that the line-number that is reported in the fatal compiler error is the line number of the closing bracket of the function/method where the if-statement is located (NOT the closing bracket of the if-statement itself!!!) Albert Wijnja Phillip Howell wrote: > PleaseReplyTo@Newsgroup.com wrote: > > >Hi VxWorks and Tornado users, > > > >I'm running GNU CC version 2.7.2 (as provided by WindRiver) > >in a Microsoft VC++ 6.0 DevStudio makefile project and get > >the following error for some (but not all) of the *.cpp files: > > > >>ccppc: Internal compiler error: program cc1plus got fatal signal > >>125 > > > >Anyone know how I can find out what "fatal signal 125" means? > > I think this is a stack overflow error. You can work around the > problem by turning optimzation off, but I have no idea what the > actual fix is. > > -pkh --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Problems with PPP between Win95 and vxWorks Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:03:02 +0530 From: snkumar@hss.hns.com Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99f0nl$7tp$1@overload.lbl.gov> We are trying to establish a PPP dial up connection between a Win95 PC and a vxWorks target. There is one modem connected to the PC and another modem connected to the target vxWorks card. We start the PPP server on the vxWorks card with options flags as : OPT_PASSIVE_MODE | OPT_NO_PAP | OPT_NO_CHAP | OPT_NO_VJ Also : lcp_echo_interval = "30" and : lcp_echo_failure = "10". All the rest of the options are default. Note that the PPP server is up once the vxWorks card boots up. We are spawning the pppd in the bsp. When we initiate the PPP connection from the windows PC using the dial up software the connection goes till the stage of "Veryfying username and password.." and then fails. We are quite sure that the two modems are working properly. We are also sure that the remote modem connected to the vxWorks is receiving data. ALSO NOTE THAT AT TIMES IT DOES WORK. WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO ESTABLISH THE PATTERN AS TO WHEN IT STARTS WORKING. We have put the PPP server on vxWorks in passive mode bcos we want the PPP server to wait passively for config requests. The PPP server is seen to be in the stopped state. This state is quite valid. According to the vxWorks programmers guide and rfc 1661(PPP) in passive mode the ppp server will initially send a cfg request and after retrials, when the restart counter goes to zero, the ppp server then goes into the stopped state and waits for a config request to come. So the ppp server state looks ok. But the ppp server never comes out of this state inspite of repeated trials from the PC. Might be that the ppp server never receives any of these config requests? This also is absurd, as we are sure the modems are OK. Is this a known problem ? Please mail back your comments. Could this problem have something to do with some entries to be added/deleted from any <>.inf file on windows ? I did find some postings in this list about PPP connection between winNT and vXworks using NULL modem. But here we are actually using proper modems. Am i correct ? or am I missing something ?? thanks, narendra kumar. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: AW: dosFS2 & tarArchive Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:53:28 +0100 From: MacroSystem_FE_trahn@t-online.de (Thomas Rahn) Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99f47u$9qa$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi Dave, if you are using the project T2 facility, be sure to activate the tar entry in the dosfs2 subfolder, or if you use a config.h/make approach, add a link to tarHelp() in order to get tarLib.o linked to yopur image See the file target\config\comps\vxWorks\10dosfs2.cdf Bye Thomas Rahn --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: T2.02 with 82559 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:06:40 +0000 From: James Marshall Organization: Agilent Technologies UK Ltd Message-ID: <3ABB2E40.90AF0675@agilent.com> References: <99cq9u$op2$1@Merlin.et.bocholt.fh-gelsenkirchen.de> Here's a response I posted sometime ago. When I had problems with eeV and asked Intel, they said "see WindRiver"... Some problems with fei: - - it doesn't handle faster system tick rates. We got Windriver to fix it for us: SPR 63430, not visible on Windsurf as usual :-( - - if you start-up without a network cable connected and some time later connect it, it won't work. This is a known problem but only happens on certain hardware so a fix isn't in the standard driver - you have to ask for it. Hope this helps. James Marshall. - ----------------------------------------------------------- Check the BIOS settings and make sure that "PNP OS Installed" or similar is set to "No". We stopped using the eeV driver because of instabilities like this and went back to using WindRiver's standard fei END driver which can handle all three of the 82557/8/9 controllers. If you add another line to sys557PciInit() in sysNetif.c so it will match the 82559ER device id (0x1209) as well as the 557/8/9 device id (0x1229), then you have a driver that does all that eeV does without its problems. James Marshall. "Wade T. Oram" wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to get networking operational on a Jumptec ETX-P1 board > (Pentium 266) using the standard Tornado II Pentium BSP as the starting > point. > > I have downloaded and installed the Intel eeV driver (for Intel 82559 > based network interfaces) but I am having some problems. > > The instructions with the Tornado II driver say to use the Pentium Pro > BSP but since I do not have a pentium pro I have installed the driver in > the Pentium BSP following the instructions given for the Pentium Pro > Tornado II installation. > > The VxWorks build works fine. > > On startup get messages: > > Attached TCP/IP interface to eeE unit 0 > Attaching lo0...done > > .... > > WDB: Ready > > Hence I know my network card has been found. However, I then > periodically (every 2 seconds) get : > > 0x1f9e294 (tNetTask): Panic: where are those rfd buffers > > It appears that something in the initialisation is not right. I have > re-checked that I have not missed anything when doing the installation > and can find nothing obviously wrong. > > Not being familiar with VxWorks networking, I do not know what might be > causing this problem and at present, I am not sure how to proceed. > > Any help offered will be much appreciated. > > -- > Wade Oram Stephan Lachnicht wrote: > Hi Friends, > > until now we used the Tornado II on our X86 with the > eeE driver from Intel. > > Has somebody used the Tornado 2.02 upgrade with the > Intel 82559 Lan Chip? > > Can we use windriver driver or is it still better to use the > Intel driver? > > thanks and regards > Stephan --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: DosFs2.0 on x86 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:23:18 +0100 From: f.pertin@staubli.com Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99fb8u$3ch$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hello VXWORKS and TORNADO gurus, I work with T2 on a pentium CPU board, I just installed dosFs2.0, I succed to instal the file system but I have 2 problems: * after booting I get the error: Error creating dosFs device /ata, errno=d0006. Actualy, the device is created, I see all my file and I am albe to read and write on the disk. Does anybody know what is this error ???? * The time and date of files created on the disk are not the same as the one in the bios. When I make a ls command from the shell I get this strange message: WARNING : dosChkLib : system clock is being set to TUE MAR 06 15:21:22 2001 Value obtained from file system referenced by volume descriptor pointer: 0xfc3bd4 The old setting was THU JAN 01 00:35:03 1970 Accepted system dates are greater than FRI JAN 01 00:00:00 1999. any suggestion ???? Thanks in advance Francois --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what's objLib? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 06:48:28 -0800 From: Joe Durusau Organization: Lockheed Martin Corporation Message-ID: <3ABB623C.6641B3DD@lmco.com> References: <98ldn6$s7r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <984518665.536737@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <98o8n9$l7k$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <997vlk$gfg$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <3AB8A249.97D16907@agilent.com> <99ad73$56e$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <3AB91244.94553828@lmco.com> <99db1g$s61$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Perhaps you have not noticed that it is a serious ERROR to look at errno when a function has not returned an indication of error. On my system, the man page for select says in part: RETURNS The number of file descriptors with activity, 0 if timed out, or ERROR if an error occurred when the driver's select() routine was invoked via ioctl(). If select is returning 0, it has timed out, no error has occurred, and this circumstance, errno IS WITHOUT MEANING AND SHOULD NOT BE READ!! Note that the correct sequence of events is: call some function look at the return value if ERROR { read errno, do something about it } else drive ON, and ignore errno Speaking only for myself, Joe Durusau "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" wrote: > > Now, in my code, the suspect of ERRNO 0x3d0002 is select(), since it was > passed a timeout value of 0. So it should set the errno when it tries to > take a semaphore, just as Keith said. > > Actually, it's not exactly a function returning ERROR, it's a function > setting ERRNO. There is no NULL. > > I think 3d0001 is an errno which shouldn't happen, but it seems 3d0002 is > acceptable or inevitable if you try to access to a system object but don't > want to wait. > > Joe Durusau wrote in message > news:3AB91244.94553828@lmco.com... > > I'm getting confused. Is some function returning ERROR or NULL when > > it shouldn't? If so, which one? > > > > Speaking only for myself, > > > > Joe Durusau > > > > > > "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" wrote: > > > > > > Yes, I can find what James said in the manual. So, if what WRS said is > true, > > > then... > > > > > > Now, I've found what caused errno 3d0001 in some other tasks, tShell and > > > another task. Here is my question before I dig deeper into the code : > > > The function generates 3d0001 is printf(). > > > I have no console contact to the target. I have to telnet to it. When > I > > > check its stdin/stdout/stderr, all of them point to fd=5. I'm using > vxWorks > > > 5.3.1-arm, is anything wrong with WRS's telnet module? Is this errno > > > acceptable when I use telnet? > > > It seems to me that the semaphore for the device which telnet is using > has > > > some problem. Is it a pty? Should it be initialized by WRS? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Freeman > > > > > > James Marshall wrote in message > > > news:3AB8A249.97D16907@agilent.com... > > > > > > It makes me very unhappy because it's not a desired behaviour. > After > > > > > > checking the code, I found that all possible calls with time_out > value > > > > > > NO_WAIT are msgQSend calls. I guess maybe some task which is not > well > > > > > > synchronized is sending msgs in a loop. > > > > > > > > > > My guess is that select() is setting errno to 3d0002. After all, it > > > will > > > > > sleep against a semaphore for the timeout that you specify. If you > > > don't > > > > > have activity on any fd before the timeout, you will get 3d0002. > > > > > > > > Not quite true. There's a subtle difference in VxWorks that's already > > > caught us > > > > out. If you semTake() with NO_WAIT and the semaphore isn't available > then > > > you get > > > > 3d0002, _OBJ_UNAVAILABLE. semTake() with a non-zero timeout which > expires > > > before > > > > the semaphore is available returns 3d0004, OBJ_TIMEOUT. In other words > > > it's only > > > > a timeout if you asked to wait, otherwise it's just unavailable. > > > > > > > > I expect the behaviour is the same for message queues - and select() > if it > > > uses > > > > semaphores. > > > > > > > > James Marshall. > > > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: re: DosFs2.0 on x86 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:55:48 +0100 From: Klaus Offinger Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99fepd$4jn$1@overload.lbl.gov> the vxWorks Users Group Exploder wrote: > > Submitted-by vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Fri Mar 23 02:23:28 2001 > Submitted-by: f.pertin@staubli.com > > Hello VXWORKS and TORNADO gurus, > > I work with T2 on a pentium CPU board, I just installed dosFs2.0, I succed > to instal the file system but I have 2 problems: > * after booting I get the error: Error creating dosFs device /ata, > errno=d0006. Actualy, the device is created, I see all my file and I am > albe to read and write on the disk. Does anybody know what is this error > ???? > - -> printErrno 0xd0006 0xd0006 = S_iosLib_DUPLICATE_DEVICE_NAME --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: dhcp server Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:32:56 +0100 From: "dmijan" Organization: ARNES Message-ID: <99ffn9$jgu$1@planjava.arnes.si> hy all, can anybody please suggest me a complete procedure for setting up a built-in DHCP server. Thanks a lot. Dmjan --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what's objLib? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:00:10 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <98ldn6$s7r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <984518665.536737@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <98o8n9$l7k$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <997vlk$gfg$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <3AB8A249.97D16907@agilent.com> <99ad73$56e$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <3AB91244.94553828@lmco.com> <99db1g$s61$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman) wrote in message <99db1g$s61$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com>... > >Actually, it's not exactly a function returning ERROR, it's a function >setting ERRNO. There is no NULL. If there is no ERROR returned from a function, THE VALUE OF ERRNO IS INVALID AND COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS AND YOU ****MUST**** IGNORE IT. Really. You're just wasting your time and everyone else's with speculating about the internals of the OS. If you care that much, buy a source code license and you can see what's going on. But really, don't. Just don't. The errno variable only has meaning in the context of a system call returning an error indication; in those circumstances, and ONLY in those circumstances, the value of errno indicates *which* error ocurred. You might as well waste your time trying to make sense of the values of random memory locations. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: SIS900 & TriMedia Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:00:01 -0000 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: <%mHu6.335$UG4.76430@newsr1.u-net.net> References: <944u3p$1fb6$1@thoth.cts.com> Charles Krinke wrote in message <944u3p$1fb6$1@thoth.cts.com>... >And on a seperate but related subject, has anyone heard of any support for >the Philips TriMedia processor TM1000, TM1100, TM1300 for vxWorks? Hi Charles, Sorry for dropping the ball on this one; I meant to reply much earlier, but had to get clearance before I could, and it just got buried in my workload. I work with TMs and VxWorks, and can offer general assistance if you need. To the best of my knowledge there's no direct support for TMs under vxWorks. But then again, they're just another PCI device at the end of the day. If you still need any help or advice, post to the group and I'll do my best. I should mention that I haven't got any experience with all those pSOS libs and utils that come with the dev kit; we just use raw binaries with ours. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Unregistering the target server. Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:36:52 +0000 From: Patrick Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: <3ABB4364.7070309@nospam.com> Hi, How does the Launcher unregister the target server? Can i do this from the command line? And can I kill the TS without finding the PID and doing a kill -9? Any help appreciated Patrick --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Timer Problems Date: 23 Mar 2001 13:04:37 GMT From: borkhuis@agere.com (Johan Borkhuis) Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: References: <99ccbd$jv6$1@overload.lbl.gov> "Cash " wrote: >Hi all, >I'm a newbie in VxWorks, here's an error I am repeatedly getting in >trying to download a small program on to an (486)X86 target... > >Errors while downloading >D:/vx/target/proj/usr_projects/project0/default/try0.o: _timer_create > >this error comes whenever I use the POSIX timer function >timer_create..... This means that the code for timer_create is not inlcuded in the version of VxWorks that you are running on your target. You have to create a new bootable image, and include POSIX timers. You can find this in your Workspace window in the VxWorks tab. If you open your project in this window you can select Operating system components -> POSIX components -> POSIX timers. Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: DosFs2 and RDM (Raima Database Manager) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:29:38 +0100 From: Sergio Guetta Organization: Ye 'Enter S.R.L. Message-ID: <3ABB6BE2.5C07B991@txt.it> Hello, I've ported a Tornado2 application using Raima RDM 4.9.3 with the old DosFs, to the new DosFs2.0. The new FS seems to work correctly as I'm able to open, read, write etc to the files in the disk but, as soon as I call the d_open (the RDM primitive that opens the database) I get the error -905 (S_NOFILE). Maybe the RDM version I'm using is not compatible with DosFS2.0 ? Does anybody have some application which uses successfuly RDM with DosFs2.0 ? Thanks - -- Sergio Guetta TXT e-solutions S.p.A. Via Frigia 27 20126 Milano - ITALY Tel: +39.02.25771455 Fax: +39.02.2578994 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Mutex Semaphores in VxWorks Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:35:14 -0500 From: Basil Kalb Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99fsrd$bik$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi all, We have a dual Power PC hardware configuration that we run Vx-Works on. My problem stems from semaphore handling in Vx-Works on such a configuration. We use the "semMLib" (Mutual-exclusion semaphore library) for all semaphore development on our Vx-Works system. We found this library to be the most appealing because of its apparent support of Priority-Inversion Safety, Task-Deletion Safety, etc. But, we were aware that using this library would not allow us to properly "see" the semaphores across the two CPUs. For example, a task running on CPU2 may not be able to properly lock a semaphore that was created on CPU1, and vice-versa. (I believe the Shared Memory Semaphore Library (semSmLib) DOES provide this capability). In any event, Priority-Inversion and Task-Deletion safety were more important to us...so we designed our system so that semaphores created on a particular CPU only had to be used by the tasks on that CPU. However, what we discovered after doing some testing, is that when a semaphore is created from a task on CPU2 (using semMCreate()), the semaphore actually resides in the memory on CPU1. This was contridictary to what we had assumed which was a semaphore will reside in the memory of the CPU in which it was created. Thus, a task running on CPU2 would have trouble "seeing" the semaphore on CPU1. Is this a bug in Vx-Works...or is there some kind of work-around that would allow us to specify exactly where we want a created semaphore to reside? Any help on this subject would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Basil Kalb --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: JavaScript for VxWorks is now available Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:23:12 -0500 From: sales@nombas.com Organization: Nombas, Inc. Message-ID: <3ABB7870.55F7478E@nombas.com> Reply-To: sales@nombas.com ScriptEase:/ISDK/VxWorks is now available from Nombas, Inc., the JavaScript/ECMAScript leaders. Free evaluation download for VxWorks and many other platforms at: http://www.nombas.com/us/toolkit/isdkdownload.htm Please also visit our main site to learn more about our products. http://www.nombas.com/us/ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: RE: dosFS2 & tarArchive Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:45:27 -0500 From: "Garner, David (N-Progeny Systems Corp)" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99g0bt$cpf$1@overload.lbl.gov> VxWorks, Tornado Thomas, Thanks for the help. My initial problem was that I was using a shadow directory and the dosFs2 patch was applied to the base directory. My shadow could not see any of the tarLib related files. Anyway, I fixed that and have just one more question. I don't use the project facility and prefer the old method of editing config.h and running make. I had to create a function: void tar_help(void) { tarHelp(); } in order to force the linking of tarLib.o in libPPC604gnuvx.a. My question is very simple: How do I force the link of a .o file in a .a file without an explicit function reference in the source code? The kernel does not use these functions but my users will. It seems there has to be a way to force the inclusion, that's not ugly. Thanks for any help anyone can provide, Dave Garner @Lockheed Martin ==============================> your response Hi Dave, if you are using the project T2 facility, be sure to activate the tar entry in the dosfs2 subfolder, or if you use a config.h/make approach, add a link to tarHelp() in order to get tarLib.o linked to yopur image See the file target\config\comps\vxWorks\10dosfs2.cdf Bye Thomas Rahn --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: How do I change the TFTP server session task priority? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:22:10 -0000 From: "Stephen Hill" Message-ID: <3abb0858_1@nnrp1.news.uk.psi.net> How do I change the TFTP server session task priority? It currently appears to be set at 100, but I would like to lower it to 253 (same as FTP sesssions), as it locks out our SNMP task (which runs at 150). --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Recall: Mutex Semaphores in VxWorks Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:14:08 -0500 From: "Sheila Steele" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99g3sd$e1c$1@overload.lbl.gov> Sheila Steele would like to recall the message, "Mutex Semaphores in VxWorks". --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what's objLib? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 14:03:03 -0500 From: "Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman)" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <99g6a8$jvo$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <98ldn6$s7r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <984518665.536737@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <98o8n9$l7k$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <997vlk$gfg$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <3AB8A249.97D16907@agilent.com> <99ad73$56e$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <3AB91244.94553828@lmco.com> <99db1g$s61$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> values of > random memory locations. Thanks Xiaoguang Dave Korn wrote in message news:YmHu6.332$UG4.76484@newsr1.u-net.net... > Wang,Xiaoguang(Freeman) wrote in message > <99db1g$s61$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com>... > > > >Actually, it's not exactly a function returning ERROR, it's a function > >setting ERRNO. There is no NULL. > > If there is no ERROR returned from a function, THE VALUE OF ERRNO IS > INVALID AND COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS AND YOU ****MUST**** IGNORE IT. > > Really. You're just wasting your time and everyone else's with > speculating about the internals of the OS. If you care that much, buy a > source code license and you can see what's going on. But really, don't. > Just don't. The errno variable only has meaning in the context of a system > call returning an error indication; in those circumstances, and ONLY in > those circumstances, the value of errno indicates *which* error ocurred. > > You might as well waste your time trying to make sense of the values of > random memory locations. > > DaveK > -- > They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at > Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: RE: dosFS2 & tarArchive Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 19:06:10 +0000 (GMT) From: David Laight Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <200103231906.TAA23845@dsl-2.tadpole.co.uk> > I don't use the project facility and prefer > the old method of editing config.h and running make. I had to create a > function: > > It seems there has to be a way to force the inclusion, that's not ugly. > One possibilty that should work with the vxWorks build is to specify '-U symbol' to the appropriate ld command. David - ---------------------------------------------------------------- David Laight email: dsl@tadpole.co.uk Tadpole Technology plc phone: +44 1223 428 232 Cambridge, UK fax: +44 1223 428 201 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Mutex Semaphores in VxWorks Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:38:47 -0600 From: Andrew Johnson Organization: APS, Argonne National Laboratory Message-ID: <3ABBA647.468120F0@aps.anl.gov> References: <99fsrd$bik$1@overload.lbl.gov> Basil Kalb wrote: > > We have a dual Power PC hardware configuration that > we run Vx-Works on. My problem stems from semaphore > handling in Vx-Works on such a configuration. If you want to be able to share semaphores between two CPUs, you will need to purchase the additional VxMP package from Wind River (or write your own shared semaphore library and test it extrememly thoroughly!). However if you look at the documentation for VxMP's semSmLib (which is included in the normal vxworks Reference Guide) you'll see that this only provides binary and counting semaphores - task deletion safety and priority inversion can't be used across multiple CPUs. - - Andrew - -- Every great idea appears crazy to start with. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Telecom & VxWorks Opportunities Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:54:26 -0600 From: "Riz Haq" Organization: SoftEdge Systems, LLC Message-ID: Reply-To: "Riz Haq" SoftEdge Systems, LLC is looking for telecom equipment developers and/or software experts specilized in embedded development with VxWorks for various clients here in Dallas. These oppoortunities are pre-ipo venture backed companies specializing in Optical Networks, Wireless, Broadband, Network management systems, Element management Systems, DWDM based type products. Can be very lucrative for experienced individuals. If you are an engineer with atleast two years of embedded development in the telecom field then please send resume and the best time to call. Opportunities are permanent employment with these companies and wll provide aggressive base salary, pre-ipo stock options, relocation to those not in the Dallas area, h1b sponsorship or transfer. Only qualified individuals should apply. Please respond to the following emails. No phone call please. Riz@softedgesystems.com Fauzi@softedgesystems.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Incorrect MPC8260 interrupt vector numbers Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:36:41 -0500 From: "Jeffrey A Angielski" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99gedt$ieo$1@overload.lbl.gov> Does anybody know of any vxWorks patch for the MPC8260 architecture that has the correct interrupt vectors numbers? It appears that the \drv\intrCtl\m8260IntCtl.c and \h\drv\intrCtrl\m8260IntrCtl.h contain erroneous information and do not reflect what is in errata for the MPC8260 User Manual. For those of you using this BSP, interrupt nums [0-26] are unchanged but nums [27+] are different. I already check the WRS website and could not find any reference to a patch that would correct this mistake. - ------------------------------------------------------ Jeff Angielski The PTR Group, Inc. Embedded, Real-time Solutions and Services mailto:jeff@theptrgroup.com http://www.theptrgroup.com V:703.405.6896 - ------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks,comp.sys.powerpc.tech Subject: Help: Software Emulation Exception Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 17:27:56 -0000 From: "Jeremy" Organization: Customer of Energis Squared Message-ID: I am running an process under vxWorks which through a ATA interface writes then reads sectors on a disk. The write/read cycle will work fine for may 10000 times an then a Software Emulation Exception occurs at one of the following places. The number of iteration and/or sector number when this occurs is quite random. sysInWordRev: 001000B8 LHBRX R3,R0,R3 001000BC EIEIO <---- Here 001000C0 BCLR 20,0 or at sysOutWordRev: 001000E0 STHBRX R4,R0,R3 001000E4 EIEIO <----- Here 001000E8 BCLR 20,0 I can't make much sense of this. Is it some sort of syncronisation problem because the processor is multitasking ? Any ideas would be most welcome ? --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: a BSP for 8260 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 00:26:52 GMT From: "Vishi Anand" Organization: @Work Internet powered by @Home Network Message-ID: References: <99d01r$qvc$1@news3.inter.net.il> Try Aisys, they are in Israel. vishi "uri nadav" wrote in message news:99d01r$qvc$1@news3.inter.net.il... > Hello, > Does anyone know a company or free lancer in Israel that developes BSP's > for 8260 boards for VxWorks? > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Mutex Semaphores in VxWorks Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 03:25:58 +0100 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <99fsrd$bik$1@overload.lbl.gov> "Basil Kalb" wrote in message news:99fsrd$bik$1@overload.lbl.gov... > Hi all, Hi! > However, what we discovered after doing some testing, is that when > a semaphore is created from a task on CPU2 (using semMCreate()), > the semaphore actually resides in the memory on CPU1. This was > contridictary to what we had assumed which was a semaphore will > reside in the memory of the CPU in which it was created. Thus, a > task running on CPU2 would have trouble "seeing" the semaphore > on CPU1. > > Is this a bug in Vx-Works...or is there some kind of work-around > that would allow us to specify exactly where we want a created > semaphore to reside? Any help on this subject would be greatly > appreciated. Nope, this has to be a bug in the setup of your bsp. The semaphores are allocated in system memory; I expect if you investigated closely you'd find that a malloc done on CPU2 would return memory on CPU1, and the probably reason is that you've used the same code in the bsps for each cpu, and so they're both mapping the same memory into their address space. Check the sysBatDesc and sysPhysMemDesc tables in sysLib.c, which specify what physical memory gets mapped into the CPU's address map when the bsp boots up and initialises; you will need different entries for each of the separate CPUs. DaveK --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: sysToMonitor: restarting.... error Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 20:08:07 -0700 From: The Mountain Tazz Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: I am trying to get VxSim running on Solaris8. I have the same setup as out Solaris7 machines, but everytime I try to launch VxSim from the UI, I get sysToMonitor: restarting that just scrolls in the Window util I kill the window. I am able to build the default project/vxWorks project, but the custom one will not load. Any ideas? TIA Jerry S. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Symbol Lookup Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:29:30 GMT From: Vic Organization: nada Message-ID: <3ABDC8B0.FA187CE1@usa.net> References: <99i6ev$cpe$1@news.netmar.com> Reply-To: vmulyk@usa.net gavin_lauchlan@agilent.com wrote: > Forgive me if I am talking utter nonsense here, but I have a question > regarding symbol lookups. > > I currently have a suite of NT DLLs/Unix shared libraries that I am about to > port to VxWorks. The concept is that all the libraries have the same entry > points (e.g registerLib(), processData(), unregisterLib()). On Unix/NT I load > up all the libraries, saving a handle to each of them and resolve the entry > point symbols for each one, saving a function pointer to each of them > > I have a class that wraps each library and saves the function pointers to > each > of the entry points in that library. This class also stores the criteria used > to check if the library it wraps is able to process a given piece of data. > > During the execution of my app I can ask the relevant library to process some > data using the processData() entry point. > > Having looked through the VxWorks references manual (5.2), I can't see how I > could apply the same technique on VxWorks. I need to tie each processData > symbol up with the correct library, but all I get from loadLib() is a module > ID - this isn't used in the FindSymByName function, so how can I tell that > the symbol I've found belongs to library A rather than library B? > > I'll take any advice I can get! If it turns out that what I've said above is > nonsense I can try and explain it better on request. > > Cheers, > Gavin > > ----- Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the Web ----- > http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups > NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam. If this or other posts > made through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email abuse@newsone.net I know it's very compiler specific, but you could run nm (name-mangle) on the dot o's to get the symbols you're after for your tables. - -Vic --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: TCP Socket Trouble Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:32:12 GMT From: Vic Organization: nada Message-ID: <3ABDC952.D057DC78@usa.net> References: <3AB063C5.DD8B584E@voxware.com> Reply-To: vmulyk@usa.net Craig Vanderborgh wrote: > Hi All: > > I have a VxWorks TCP sockets client app, running over a wireless LAN > connection. The VxWorks radio LAN client appears to be in contact with > the LAN at all times. The trouble is that once in a while (about > one time in 200) a socket connection is established (successfully, by all > appearances) that is unwritable. My code that calls write() on the > supposedly established socket connection just blocks until it returns > errno = 32 (broken pipe) after several minutes. After this happens, > plus several minutes more, the test seems to recover somehow and soldier > on until the next time the failure occurs. > > What On Earth Is Going On?? I simply do not understand how a > successfully established socket connection could be unwritable. > I am checking ALL return values from sockets calls. AND, just > to be sure, my code that makes the connection with the server > does a getpeername() to ensure that the connection is really > there. Please help, I'm pretty stuck at the moment. > > Thanks! > craig vanderborgh > voxware incorporated Can you eliminate the radio link and prove it works over a wire? - -Vic --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: NT hosted C++ Cross Compilers compatible with VxWorks/PPC Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:36:17 GMT From: Vic Organization: nada Message-ID: <3ABDCA43.68CF5B32@usa.net> References: <3AAFD7BF.627C657A@boeing.com> Reply-To: vmulyk@usa.net Darrell Bartz wrote: > We are trying to identify NT hosted C++ Cross Compilers that are > compatible with VxWorks for a Power PC target. We have identified Green > Hills AdaMulti and Diab C++ as potential candidates. Are there any > other candidates out there? > > -- > Thanks, > Darrell Bartz > The Boeing Company > 314-234-5915 WindRiver uses their own variant of the GNU tool chain. I've heard really good things about Diab from a colleague. I myself have used ccppc, etc., from WindRiver. Regards, Vic --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: PPC 821/823 with passive LCD display Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:47:17 GMT From: Vic Organization: nada Message-ID: <3ABDCCDB.201D8F37@usa.net> References: <3A94E666.443A0D2C@sepro-robotique.com> Reply-To: vmulyk@usa.net Emmanuel Herbreteau wrote: > Hi, > > I'm working on VxWorks 5.4 with Zinc 6 on a custom > board based on MPC 823 (very similar to 821, with > some little enhancement and mods). > > The passive color LCD display (8 bits data interface) > connected to port D is not working correctly. I get > FIFO underrun from the LCD controller. Althought, > despite I set the pixel clock to 10,6 Mhz (32 Mhz > divide by 3), I only get a pixel clock of 7 Mhz > and refresh rate of 56 Hz (instead of 89). > > It seems that the SDMA does not correctly filled the LCD FIFO. > (too slow)(SDCR=0x01). > > All I get is a sad picture with vertical (unwanted !) colored row > and a low contrast (but the test picture is still recognizable). > > Any idea ???? > > Thanks a lot. > -- > Emmanuel > (SEPRO Robotique, France) A little off topic but be sure your framebuffer memory is cache-disabled also. - -Vic --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: IPCP configure options ? Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:17:20 GMT From: "jskim" Organization: Dacom Message-ID: Hi I am using the PPP in vxWorks 5.4, but I've some probleam. My code is, pppOpt.flags = 0x00000000; pppOpt.flags = OPT_DEFAULTROUTE; pppOpt.flags |= OPT_IPCP_ACCEPT_LOCAL | OPT_IPCP_ACCEPT_REMOTE; pppOpt.netmask = "0xFFFFFF00"; pppInit(1, "/tyCo/3", NULL, NULL, 230400, &pppOpt, NULL); Why don't fill the local address with "0.0.0.0" at IPCP Configure Request. Resut of ppp test, It fill the "211.152.243.121"(target address) at IPCP request frame. Thanks for advance. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Starting end after boot Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 15:56:35 -0700 From: John Murphy Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99lu6t$k0g$1@overload.lbl.gov> I'm working on an ARM based vxWorks project using Tornado II. We have a couple of instances of a custom end driver we start after the system has booted (and other custom hardware has been configured). When we boot using a bootrom that uses a PCI based network card (and associated driver), things work great. We do a muxDevLoad/muxDevStart/ipAttach/ipAddrSet for each custom interface and the network interfaces come up fine. In the stand alone system, the target boots from flash, (the PCI ethernet mentioned before is not available). Attempting to load the drivers (as before, muxDevLoad/Start/Attach/Set does not work. I've defined INCLUDE_END (it's the same configuration as before, except that usrNetInit is probaby not being called, since we're not booting from these IP devices.)... I've tried calling usrNetInit, but it expects a bootline with the interface/etc, which it does not know how to load (since the ip interfaces/end drivers are loaded after boot, and are not part of the kernel. Even the loopback interfaces is not available. I really don't want to have to link the kernel to the end driver during compile (I really don't want the kernel even knowing about these interfaces until the kernel has started and the custom hardware has been brought up. Any ideas on getting the network/END core up after a stanalone/flash based boot? Thanks John --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Starting end after boot Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 15:43:32 -0800 From: DrDiags Organization: laserlink.net Message-ID: <3ABE82A4.DAFAB573@covad.net> References: <99lu6t$k0g$1@overload.lbl.gov> Reply-To: drdiags@covad.net John, Have you tried putting the interface type in the other field? As you say, since the boot image didn't require networking, the necessary initializations done when you did, have not occurred. Also, I vaguely remember reading somewhere, that if you are using TFFS, there was another modification required, but it is in the README file for TFFS (and may not apply). So, try adding your interface type to the "other" field of your boot params. HTH. John Murphy wrote: > > I'm working on an ARM based vxWorks project using Tornado II. We have a > couple of instances > of a custom end driver we start after the system has booted (and other > custom hardware > has been configured). When we boot using a bootrom that uses a PCI > based network card > (and associated driver), things work great. We do a > muxDevLoad/muxDevStart/ipAttach/ipAddrSet > for each custom interface and the network interfaces come up fine. > > In the stand alone system, the target boots from flash, (the PCI > ethernet mentioned > before is not available). Attempting to load the drivers (as before, > muxDevLoad/Start/Attach/Set does not work. I've defined INCLUDE_END > (it's the same configuration as before, except that usrNetInit is > probaby not being called, since we're not > booting from these IP devices.)... I've tried calling usrNetInit, but > it expects a bootline with the interface/etc, which it does not know how > to load (since the ip interfaces/end drivers are loaded after boot, and > are not part of the kernel. Even the loopback interfaces is not > available. I really don't want to have to link the kernel to the end > driver during compile > (I really don't want the kernel even knowing about these interfaces > until the kernel has started and the custom hardware has been brought > up. > > Any ideas on getting the network/END core up after a stanalone/flash > based boot? > > Thanks > John --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: SimNt and WindML Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:32:53 +0200 From: Joern Tietjen Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=E4ger?= Medizintechnik GmbH Message-ID: <3ABEE295.F90C648@draeger.com> References: Bill Pringlemeir wrote: > > >>>>> "Bill" == Bill Pringlemeir writes: > > Bill> In the WindML (UGL2.0) documents, it says to include a file > Bill> `ugl_WinLib.o' in the vxWorks image. Does anyone know where > Bill> this is, or did my install not work correctly. > > This file is now called `simLib.o' (thank-you objdump and grep)... > ...and it should automatically be included in your WindML library when building it thru the windmill tool. so, normally needless to worry on the names of objects, but in T2 with WindML you never know ;-) Joern --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Can I add any command into target shell?? Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:47:42 +0800 From: Austin Wu Organization: National Tsing Hua Univ. Computing Centre, Taiwan, R.O.C Message-ID: <3ABEF41E.13868AE6@tkgis.tku.edu.tw> For my project, I need to add a command into target shell, does any one know the solution ?? Thanks in advance. Austin --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Can I add any command into target shell?? Date: 26 Mar 2001 09:26:59 GMT From: borkhuis@agere.com (Johan Borkhuis) Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: References: <3ABEF41E.13868AE6@tkgis.tku.edu.tw> Austin Wu wrote: > For my project, I need to add a command into target shell, does any >one know the solution ?? Any global symbol can be called from the shell, so if you create a function with name abc you can call this function from the shell. Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Incorrect MPC8260 interrupt vector numbers Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:21:59 +0100 From: Graham Baxter Organization: Graham Baxter (Software) Limited Message-ID: <3ABEFC27.B195E8A1@NOSPAM.bcs.org.uk> References: <99gedt$ieo$1@overload.lbl.gov> Jeff, I am surprised that there is not yet a patch. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is what I sent to Wind River Aug 18 2000: I have discovered an error in the ADS8260 BSP. We were having problems with interrupts from PC6 and PC7. The error seems to be in the module /target/src/drv/intrCtl/m8260IntrClt.c in the function m8260IntConnect(). I believe that: INUM_MAX should be changed to IVEC_MAX This prevents us using INUM_PC7 and INUM_PC6 in: intConnect(INUM_TO_IVEC(INUM_PCx),alarm_ISR,0); intEnable(INUM_PCx); Please confirm that I am making the right correction and that the problem will be fixed in a later release. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is their reply: I can confirm that this is a known problem and SPR# 32665 was opened regarding this issue. Currently there is no fix for this SPR. As you probably know our Windsurf website gives you an option to register yourself in order to be kept informed as soon as new fixes become available. If you wish to do this then access the WindSurf website using your username and password to login and proceed to register for this. If you do not have these then contact your sales Representative who will make arrangements for the same to be sent to you. Sorry for the inconvenience caused. There is little more I can do for you on this matter, so I suggest we close this TSR. I will wait for your reply before proceeding to do so. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I hope this helps. Regards, Graham Baxter Freelance Software Engineer gbaxter@NOSPAMbcs.org.uk Jeffrey A Angielski wrote: > > Does anybody know of any vxWorks patch for the MPC8260 architecture that has > the correct interrupt vectors numbers? It appears that the > \drv\intrCtl\m8260IntCtl.c and \h\drv\intrCtrl\m8260IntrCtl.h contain > erroneous information and do not reflect what is in errata for the MPC8260 > User Manual. For those of you using this BSP, interrupt nums [0-26] are > unchanged but nums [27+] are different. > > I already check the WRS website and could not find any reference to a patch > that would correct this mistake. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Jeff Angielski > The PTR Group, Inc. > Embedded, Real-time Solutions and Services > mailto:jeff@theptrgroup.com http://www.theptrgroup.com > V:703.405.6896 > ------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: loadmeter module Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:13:30 +0100 From: "ajs" Message-ID: <3abf1669_2@nnrp1.news.uk.psi.net> Dear All, I am trying to get the source code for the loadmeter module that is described in the vxWorks archive at ftp.atd.ucar.edu. The man page for this module says that I need to get the source from bob@noao.edu but I am not getting any response. Can anyone else provide me the source, or tell me where I can get it from? Regards, - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- email: Roke Manor tel: +44 (0) 1794 833649 A Siemens Company fax: +44 (0) 1794 526919 web: http://www.roke.co.uk Roke Manor Research Limited, Romsey, Hampshire SO51 0ZN, UK - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The information contained in this e-mail is confidential to Roke Manor and must not be passed to any third party without permission. This communication is for information only and shall not create or change any contractual relationship. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: SysAuxClock and periodic task Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:51:13 +0200 From: "JJS" Organization: LT Message-ID: <99nhg0$8e3$1@news5.isdnet.net> Hi, I am workink on Tornado 2, vxworks 5.4, PPC 603 target (mvme 2303) I tried the following program : int num=0; void Timed(void) { num++; printf("num=%d\n",num); if(num==100) SysAuxClkDisable(); } void Init() { SysAuxClkRateSet(n); SysAuxClkConnect(Timer,0); SysAuxClkEnable(); } I thought if I did n=1, Timed() would be launched every second. But every value of n gives the same result without modification on the period of Timed() What am I doing wrong? Thanks Jack --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: SysAuxClock and periodic task Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:39:10 +0100 From: "Martin Dowie" Message-ID: <3abf52c2$1@pull.gecm.com> References: <99nhg0$8e3$1@news5.isdnet.net> could it be the routine is called 'Timed' but the parameter passed is 'Timer'? JJS wrote in message news:99nhg0$8e3$1@news5.isdnet.net... > Hi, > I am workink on Tornado 2, vxworks 5.4, PPC 603 target (mvme 2303) > I tried the following program : > int num=0; > void Timed(void) > { > num++; > printf("num=%d\n",num); > if(num==100) > SysAuxClkDisable(); > } > > void Init() > { > SysAuxClkRateSet(n); > SysAuxClkConnect(Timer,0); > SysAuxClkEnable(); > } --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Symbol Lookup Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:55:47 GMT From: Bill Pringlemeir Organization: Factory of the mind Message-ID: References: <99i6ev$cpe$1@news.netmar.com> Sender: bpringlemeir@DeadDuck >>>>> "Gavin" == gavin lauchlan writes: [snip] Gavin> Having looked through the VxWorks references manual (5.2), I Gavin> can't see how I could apply the same technique on VxWorks. I Gavin> need to tie each processData symbol up with the correct Gavin> library, but all I get from loadLib() is a module ID - this Gavin> isn't used in the FindSymByName function, so how can I tell Gavin> that the symbol I've found belongs to library A rather than Gavin> library B? Gavin> I'll take any advice I can get! If it turns out that what I've Gavin> said above is nonsense I can try and explain it better on Gavin> request. See the docs for `symLib'. The `group' parameter is associated with the module ID (they are the same). The vxWorks symbol table allows multiple entries (same name) to be put in the symbol table. You can certainly use the symEach function to iterate and find the symbol that you wish to find. Unfortunately there is no `symFindByValueAndGroup'. regards, Bill Pringlemeir - -- The birds of leaving call to us. Yet here we stand endowed with the fear of flight. - Dead can Dance Useful vxWorks URLS, "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html" "http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxw_pt9.html" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Any details on semGiveDefer? Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:04:50 -0500 From: "Emory R. Stagmer" Organization: Ezekiel's Wheel (works for Litton, Advanced Systems division) Message-ID: <3ABF5A92.36762115@LittonAS.com> I've got a problem with a semGive call while booting - I think I understand it mostly, but there is one VxWorks function in the call chain that's undocumented, "semGiveDefer" (called from semGive) and I need to know WHY this function might be called - anybody have any knowledge that would help? I don't really need to know WHAT semGiveDefer does in detail, just WHY it would get called from semGive. Thanks for any pointers, Emory - -- Emory R. Stagmer Scientist, Litton Advanced Sys Div - Space Systems Operation http://www.amecom.com Bass/12string/keyboards/windsynth for Ezekiel's Wheel http://www.untiedmusic.com Baltimore CMC Chapter Coordinator & North Atlantic CMC Regional Board http://www.cmcnet.org RingMaster for the Christian Music Ring http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=christmusic;home Don't read Tom Clancy and watch CNN at the same time - it's WAY too confusing... --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How do I change the TFTP server session task priority? Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:00:27 +0100 From: "Stephen Hill" Message-ID: <3abf67f8_1@nnrp1.news.uk.psi.net> References: <3abb0858_1@nnrp1.news.uk.psi.net> The tftp task is spawned at priority 55, and new incoming connection are spawned at priority 100, you can change this through the global variable tftpdResponsePriority which is initially set to 100. "Stephen Hill" wrote in message news:3abb0858_1@nnrp1.news.uk.psi.net... > How do I change the TFTP server session task priority? > It currently appears to be set at 100, but I would like to lower it to 253 > (same as FTP sesssions), as it locks out our SNMP task (which runs at 150). > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: digestOnly Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:41:41 -0500 From: "Hwang, Wen" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99npve$mua$1@overload.lbl.gov> Tornado VxWorks --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Reuse of the UDP Socket in vxWorks. Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:09:13 +0530 From: skant@hss.hns.com Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99npvf$mub$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi All, I am Using Tornado 2.0, and VxSim Full Simulator with networking support. I have an application that uses a udp socket for receiving packet, due to some reason the application is getting killed. When i am respawing the process I get an error that socket is in use, which is true. Then i tried using the setsockopt, with SO_REUSEADDR option. e.g. setsockopt (sock, SOL_SOCKET, SO_REUSEADDR, &optval, sizeof (optval)); But still I am getting the same error, the same piece of code is working perfectly on NT and Solaris. Is this a bug vxWorks, or there is something else required to be done in order to use the same socket. Otherwise i have to reboot the simulator every time i need to respawn the udp server. Regards, Suraj --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: boot from FAT32 drives Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:28:07 GMT From: "Christophe Belmont" Organization: Verio Message-ID: Hi, The version of "mkboot.c" that comes with vxWorks only support booting from FAT16 partitions. I was wondering if one of you had already worked on a FAT32 version of it or if a new version was available from WindRiver. Thank you in advance, Christophe. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: dhcps used etherInputHook??? Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:34:38 +0900 From: "thkang" Organization: Korea Telecom Message-ID: <99nua1$3a6$1@news2-2.kornet.net> hello. When I used DHCPs, "muxShow" routing displays "Protocol: etherInputHook type:257 ..." - -> muxShow Device: dc Unit: 0 Description: dec21x40 Enhanced Network Driver Protocol: etherInputHook Type: 257 Recv 0x8006c854 Shutdown 0x0 Protocol: IP 4.4 ARP Type: 2054 Recv 0x1556d4 Shutdown 0x155998 Protocol: IP 4.4 TCP/IP Type: 2048 Recv 0x1556d4 Shutdown 0x1558d0 value = 0 = 0x0 - -> When I used by MUX to prioritize the protocols, MUX_PROTO_SNARF has the highest priority, "muxShow" routing displays "Protocol: Wind Debug Agent type:257 ..." - -> muxShow Device: dc Unit: 0 Description: dec21x40 Enhanced Network Driver Protocol: Wind Debug Agent Type: 257 Recv 0x8034b170 Shutdown 0x8034b408 Protocol: IP 4.4 ARP Type: 2054 Recv 0x1556d4 Shutdown 0x155998 Protocol: IP 4.4 TCP/IP Type: 2048 Recv 0x1556d4 Shutdown 0x1558d0 value = 0 = 0x0 - -> but it's same type (Type: 257) i can't running at once!!!! would you help me?? ps: According to "14.2.1 vxworks network programing guide" CAUTION: Future versions of VxWorks will not support etherhooks ==> I can't believe??? Thanks for your favor. Good Luck To You!! begin 666 caution.gif M1TE&.#EA$@`2`/$`````````____`````"'Y! $```$`+ `````2`!(```(Y MC&\`R!WJHH*1`2%6/0K3?75:)8:C Organization: Siemens AG Message-ID: <3ABF7E9B.E979F18B@icn.siemens.de> Hello, Using Tornado II on VxWorks 5.4, I am trying to send UDP datagrams using writev (gather-write). Accoding to net/uio.h the maximum iov_len is 1024 on VxWorks. However long before this I get a ENOBUFS error. I have tried to send 64 5 byte buffers. The datagram is sent over Ethernet to another target host. The code segment is attached: #include "vxWorks.h" #include "sockLib.h" #include "inetLib.h" #include "taskLib.h" #define NBLOCKS 64 int my_test() { struct iovec myvec[1200]; char buffer[2000][5]; int i=0; int sd=0; struct sockaddr_in server_addr; struct msghdr send_msg; int result; sd = socket(AF_INET,SOCK_DGRAM,0); memset(&server_addr, 0, sizeof(server_addr)); server_addr.sin_family = AF_INET; server_addr.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr("195.212.5.8"); server_addr.sin_port = htons(2002); for(i=0 ; i< NBLOCKS ; i++) { myvec[i].iov_base = buffer[i]; myvec[i].iov_len = 5; } send_msg.msg_iov = (struct iovec *) myvec; send_msg.msg_iovlen = NBLOCKS; send_msg.msg_name = (struct sockaddr *) &server_addr; send_msg.msg_namelen = sizeof(server_addr); send_msg.msg_control = 0; send_msg.msg_controllen = 0; send_msg.msg_flags = 0; result = sendmsg (sd, &send_msg, 0); printf("result %d error %d %s.\n",result,errno,strerror(errno)); close(sd); return 0; } I have increased the size of the system and user pools as show below: - -> netStackSysPoolShow type number - --------- ------ FREE : 2373 DATA : 0 HEADER : 0 SOCKET : 1 PCB : 2 RTABLE : 26 HTABLE : 0 ATABLE : 0 SONAME : 0 ZOMBIE : 0 SOOPTS : 0 FTABLE : 0 RIGHTS : 0 IFADDR : 4 CONTROL : 0 OOBDATA : 0 IPMOPTS : 0 IPMADDR : 2 IFMADDR : 0 MRTABLE : 0 TOTAL : 2408 number of mbufs: 2408 number of times failed to find space: 0 number of times waited for space: 0 number of times drained protocols for space: 0 __________________ CLUSTER POOL TABLE _______________________________________________________________________________ size clusters free usage - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 64 1024 1008 18 128 100 90 34 256 40 32 15 512 40 39 34 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- value = 80 = 0x50 = 'P' - -> - -> netStackDataPoolShow type number - --------- ------ FREE : 4190 DATA : 2 HEADER : 0 SOCKET : 0 PCB : 0 RTABLE : 0 HTABLE : 0 ATABLE : 0 SONAME : 0 ZOMBIE : 0 SOOPTS : 0 FTABLE : 0 RIGHTS : 0 IFADDR : 0 CONTROL : 0 OOBDATA : 0 IPMOPTS : 0 IPMADDR : 0 IFMADDR : 0 MRTABLE : 0 TOTAL : 4192 number of mbufs: 4192 number of times failed to find space: 0 number of times waited for space: 0 number of times drained protocols for space: 0 __________________ CLUSTER POOL TABLE _______________________________________________________________________________ size clusters free usage - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 64 1024 1023 12 128 100 100 81 256 40 40 9 512 40 40 0 1024 25 25 0 2048 25 25 0 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- value = 80 = 0x50 = 'P' - -> Does any one have experience of gather writes for UDP over VxWorks and what limits exist in the OS. Thanks in advance. John Mackenzie --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: writev return ENOBUFS for UDP when iov_len is 64. Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:58:07 +0200 From: John Mackenzie Organization: Siemens AG Message-ID: <3ABF832E.4401EF48@icn.siemens.de> References: <3ABF7E9B.E979F18B@icn.siemens.de> Reply-To: John.Mackenzie.extern@icn.siemens.de Hello, As usual, you find the answer AFTER you send the mail. In sys/socket.h MSG_MAXIOVLEN is defined as 16 so I imagine the limit is 16. Although I am not sure the kernel checks for this as I was able to send up to 32 buffers in a sendmsg. Also, note the call I am using is sendmsg not writev which may indeed send up to 1024 buffers as in uio.h It is a little confuding to have different limits for different calls. Regards, John Mackenzie. John Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, > > Using Tornado II on VxWorks 5.4, I am trying to send UDP > datagrams using writev (gather-write). Accoding to net/uio.h > the maximum iov_len is 1024 on VxWorks. However long > before this I get a ENOBUFS error. > > I have tried to send 64 5 byte buffers. The datagram is > sent over Ethernet to another target host. > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: SysAuxClock and periodic task Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:45:00 +0200 From: "JJS" Organization: LT Message-ID: <99o9ll$v6b$1@news5.isdnet.net> References: <99nhg0$8e3$1@news5.isdnet.net> <3abf52c2$1@pull.gecm.com> Martin Dowie a écrit dans le message <3abf52c2$1@pull.gecm.com>... >could it be the routine is called 'Timed' but the parameter passed is >'Timer'? Thanks but no; In my program it's SysAuxClkConnect(Timed,0); > >JJS wrote in message >news:99nhg0$8e3$1@news5.isdnet.net... >> Hi, >> I am workink on Tornado 2, vxworks 5.4, PPC 603 target (mvme 2303) >> I tried the following program : >> int num=0; >> void Timed(void) >> { >> num++; >> printf("num=%d\n",num); >> if(num==100) >> SysAuxClkDisable(); >> } >> >> void Init() >> { >> SysAuxClkRateSet(n); >> SysAuxClkConnect(Timer,0); >> SysAuxClkEnable(); >> } > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: SysAuxClock and periodic task Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:48:51 +0200 From: Patrick Deiber Organization: PatDB Message-ID: <3ABFAB33.E802A52@wanadoo.fr> References: <99nhg0$8e3$1@news5.isdnet.net> Reply-To: patrick.deiber@wanadoo.fr JJS wrote: > Hi, > I am workink on Tornado 2, vxworks 5.4, PPC 603 target (mvme 2303) > I tried the following program : > int num=0; > void Timed(void) > { > num++; > printf("num=%d\n",num); > if(num==100) > SysAuxClkDisable(); > } > > void Init() > { > SysAuxClkRateSet(n); > SysAuxClkConnect(Timer,0); > SysAuxClkEnable(); > } > > I thought if I did n=1, Timed() would be launched every second. > But every value of n gives the same result without modification on the > period of Timed() > What am I doing wrong? > Thanks > Jack Be carreful, for sysAuxClkRateSet() you need to check the return status of the call because some value cannot be set. Otherwise, there is an error on sysAuxClkConnect() : sysAuxClkConnect(Timed, 0) And finally, the routine Timed is called under interrupt. Use logMsg("num=%i\n, num, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0) instead of printf(...) - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------ Mail : patrick.deiber@wanadoo.fr patrick@deiber.org Web : http://www.deiber.org - ------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: executing script on windsh Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:48:23 -0800 From: "Sameer Sharma" Organization: Intel Corporation Message-ID: <99o9ou$p1m@news.or.intel.com> Hi I am trying to execute a series of commands on windsh by calling a script (just like "source " in unix). Any pointers on how this can be done. Sameer --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: POSIX pipe, not pipeDrv Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:10:28 GMT From: "Jeff & Sandy Miller" Message-ID: Has anyone implemented a more unix or POSIX like pipe() interface on vxWorks? The pipeDrv() in 5.4 really seems to be nothing more then a file descriptor wrapped around a message queue. This works if you have known data sizes but not as a general mechanism for connecting two tasks via a common stream of data. I did see something in the "optional" streams package that might allow for implementation of a real pipe but I don't have that option. Before heading off to implement my own solution I wondered if anybody had any ideas or software to share. My thinking is that I would need to create a device driver that would go through the normal I/O subsystem. This would get me file descriptors along with select processing. I haven't looked into it yet but since I need to get two file descriptors rather then a single file descriptor I'm betting that I will need to have to perform two opens of the device and then do an ioctl to link the file descriptors; bury all this inside of a pipe() function call and call it good. The driver would probably have a PIPE_BUF size buffer allocated on the open and this would be used to store characters as they are read and written. I would also probably need a semaphore or something that I could actually use to suspend a task if it blocks on a read or write. I could also go easy and just build on top of the network loopback driver but this seems to be a huge waste of resources. Opinions? Jeff BTW: responses mailed directly to Jeff.Miller@ind.alcatel.com would be appreciated. I unfortunately can't read news at work so checking news is a bit of a pain. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: DHCP client problems Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:21:06 -0800 From: Peter Krystad Organization: Stratos Product Development LLC Message-ID: <3ABFCEE2.FDFCF55A@stratos.com> I am attempting to configure DHCP client support into our target. When our unit boots the bootrom succesfully negotiates a DHCP lease. However when the downloaded system images starts running it fails to renew the lease and leaves the interface down. When I look into the network initialization code I see (in config/src/usrNetwork.c) that the routine dhcpcConfigSet() is called to [apparently] do all the work of binding the lease [and starting the task that continues to renews the lease?]. This routine is not described in the docs. Does anyone know what, exactly, it does. I can see with a protocol sniffer that dhcpcConfigSet() does not even try to renew the previous lease, it attempts to negotiate a new one. Is it expected that this routine be rewritten to do what is desired? We have used been using the VxWorks BSP init code pretty much unmodified so far. Thanks for any help. Peter. - -- // -------------------------------------------------------- // Peter Krystad peterk@stratos.com // Stratos Product Development, LLC Seattle, WA USA --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Using serial ports with VxSim Date: 25 Mar 2001 12:09:02 GMT From: talr@rafael.co.il Organization: NewsOne.Net - Free Usenet News via the Web - http://newsone.net/ Message-ID: <99kn4u$tbc$1@news.netmar.com> Followup-To: comp.os.vxworks Hi, I need your help with using NT serial ports (read\write data) from the VxSim. 1. Is it possible to use the NT serial ports with the VxSim? 2. If so, how do I do it? TIA, Tal Rostoker ----- Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the Web ----- http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam. If this or other posts made through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email abuse@newsone.net --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Any details on semGiveDefer? Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 03:51:53 GMT From: Pierre Frigon Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: <3AC00D57.A97884D6@yahoo.com> References: <3ABF5A92.36762115@LittonAS.com> What is the problem you are having ? "Emory R. Stagmer" wrote: > I've got a problem with a semGive call while booting - I think > I understand it mostly, but there is one VxWorks function in the > call chain that's undocumented, "semGiveDefer" (called from semGive) > and I need to know WHY this function might be called - anybody > have any knowledge that would help? I don't really need to know > WHAT semGiveDefer does in detail, just WHY it would get called from > semGive. > > Thanks for any pointers, > Emory > -- > Emory R. Stagmer > Scientist, Litton Advanced Sys Div - Space Systems Operation > http://www.amecom.com > Bass/12string/keyboards/windsynth for Ezekiel's Wheel > http://www.untiedmusic.com > Baltimore CMC Chapter Coordinator & North Atlantic CMC Regional Board > http://www.cmcnet.org > RingMaster for the Christian Music Ring > http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=christmusic;home > > Don't read Tom Clancy and watch CNN at the same time - it's WAY too confusing... --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: executing script on windsh Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 04:54:31 GMT From: pkockritz@home.com (Pete Kockritz) Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: References: <99o9ou$p1m@news.or.intel.com> In article <99o9ou$p1m@news.or.intel.com>, "Sameer Sharma" wrote: > Hi > I am trying to execute a series of commands on windsh by calling a script > (just like "source " in unix). Any pointers on how this can be > done. > Sameer All you have to do is redirect input to come from the file containing your script: - -> < myScriptFile Will read windSh commands from the file 'myScriptFile' and execute them as if you had typed them at the command prompt. You can also write tcl scripts and source them with: - -> ? source myTclScriptFile If you use tcl, you can extend the windSh with additional 'shellproc' procs, which are callable directly from the '->' prompt. Regards, Pete - -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Kockritz mailto:pkockritz@home.com | | This space for rent. | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: TGTSVR Exception when downloading Java files Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:06:37 +0200 From: "zz Fa.NewlinkSystems01" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99pi7b$q6k$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi All, In real need of help trying to figure out why the Tornado tgtsvr crashes with an unhandled exception, claiming an Access Violation. Not sure if anyone else has seen this??? Situation is VxWorks 5.4 on target with PJWorks 3.1 and WINDML 2.0. Target boots with no problems start a Java application that involves reading and downloading alot of JAR files over the tgtsvr. At random times we get the above mentioned exception. I have increased the tgtsvr cache size from 1Mb to 4 and this helped and works say 1 in 4 now (never before). Target has 16Mb and tried setting tgtsvr cache the same but this never worked. Does anyone know exactly what the cache setting will do and how the tgtsvr handles teh download and memory address allocation for the target. Confused and slipping toward worrying deadlines so all help would be gratefully received. Thanks, Dave - ----------------------------------------------------------- This Mail has been checked for Viruses Attention: Encrypted Mails can NOT be checked ! *** Diese Mail wurde auf Viren ueberprueft Hinweis: Verschluesselte Mails koennen NICHT geprueft werden! - ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: deleting task Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:55:45 +0200 From: "r" Organization: Hacom Message-ID: <985694163.224697@box2.hacom.nl> Reply-To: "r" Hi, the thing I want to do is: running a task that spawns another task. If the spawned task is hanging up, I will delete the task. Herefor I use the nanoSleep function for a kind of timeout. If the time is over, I check if the PID of the spawned task is still ready. If so, I delete the task otherwise I quit. This is working correctly. However, now the whole procedure (from lauching the first task until completion) is always taking the same time (we forget the interrupts for this time). Even if the spawned task is ready very fast, the parent is finished after the nanoSleep function ends. My question is: how do I know if the task is ready, so that I can quit? I guess I've to use signals or pipes? Frank --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Two seperate ethernet adapters Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:30:50 +0200 From: "Dr. Harald Freyer" Organization: Dr.Barthel Sensorsysteme GmbH Message-ID: <3AC087FA.C05AB496@scout-sensor.com> Hi, inside my application I am accessing an on-mainboard ethernet-adapter with two seperate "TCP servers" by using two different sockets. Now I want to build in an additional ethernet adapter on a separate board. Is it possible to attach one socket to the first and the other socket to the second ethernet adapter in such a way that the two socket streams are completly decoupled yet on the transport layer (i.e. two seperate TCP stacks) ? If yes, where are the crucial points where changes have to be made in the code (either in the vxWorks system files or in the TCP server setup inside my application) ? Any help appreciated. Harald. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what's objLib? Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:17:35 -0500 From: Keith Arner Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <4FBEA8857476D311A03300204840E1CFCFBD07-100000@whq-msgusr-02.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <98ldn6$s7r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <984518665.536737@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <98o8n9$l7k$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <997vlk$gfg$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <3AB8A249.97D16907@agilent.com> <99ad73$56e$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <3AB91244.94553828@lmco.com> <99db1g$s61$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Dave Korn wrote: > If there is no ERROR returned from a function, THE VALUE OF ERRNO IS > INVALID AND COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS AND YOU ****MUST**** IGNORE IT. I think that you and I are arguing this issue from two different standpoints. From a purely programatic perspective, it is indeed pointless to test the value of errno at random times during execution. The only time that errno is guaranteed to have a meaningful value is immediately after a system call returns an error. However, from a debugging perspective, it is often useful to occasionally take a peek at errno to see if it has a value that you cannot explain. The fact of the matter is, things do not set errno at random... they only do so to indicate that which error occured. As an example, I recently had to debug a problem where many of the tasks in our system went haywire. I noticed that one of them had errno 0xd0003. This errno is S_iosLib_INVALID_FILE_DESCRIPTOR. I was able to conclude that that task had somehow gotten confused about what fds it was supposed to be operating on, and eventually chased it down to a double close. If I hadn't had that clue, I would probably still be staring at source code. > Really. You're just wasting your time and everyone else's with > speculating about the internals of the OS. If you care that much, buy a > source code license and you can see what's going on. But really, don't. > Just don't. The errno variable only has meaning in the context of a system > call returning an error indication; in those circumstances, and ONLY in > those circumstances, the value of errno indicates *which* error ocurred. This brings me to an important point. I do have the "luxury" of a source license. Without it, I would not be able to draw the conclusion that 0x3d0001 only occurs if something is confused about what object it is operating on, and is therefore necessarily indicative that there was a real problem at one time. I'm of the opinion that people without a source license are at a serious disadvantage (this statement is not VxWorks specific). > You might as well waste your time trying to make sense of the values of > random memory locations. But errno is better than random. If it is set, you know that something at some point was reporting that error (assuming that some malicious coder isn't just setting it out of spite). It's not a foolproof way of catching problems, but chasing down the source of errnos that you cannot explain is often a useful exercise. Keith --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: help with mil-std-1553 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:14:08 GMT From: "Andre Pitre, CPUSOFT" Organization: Sympatico Message-ID: Hello everybody, I need a software engineer who can help me with a project in Montreal. This person should have a good experience in designing mil-std-1553 bus controller. Please send me a direct mail to andre@cpusoft.com for more information. Thank you all! Andre --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: deleting task Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:29:45 -0800 From: "AnthonyDTruong" Message-ID: References: <985694163.224697@box2.hacom.nl> Use a binary semaphore ( intitial state: empty) between the two tasks Do a semTake() in your spawning task after the taskSpawn(). Do a SemGive() in your spawned task's main function after it's initialized. Of course, this is just one of many ways. Regards, Anthony Dominic Truong. "r" wrote in message news:985694163.224697@box2.hacom.nl... > Hi, > > the thing I want to do is: running a task that spawns another task. If the > spawned task is hanging up, I will delete the task. > > Herefor I use the nanoSleep function for a kind of timeout. If the time is > over, I check if the PID of the spawned task is still ready. If so, I delete > the task otherwise I quit. This is working correctly. However, now the whole > procedure (from lauching the first task until completion) is always taking > the same time (we forget the interrupts for this time). Even if the spawned > task is ready very fast, the parent is finished after the nanoSleep function > ends. My question is: how do I know if the task is ready, so that I can > quit? I guess I've to use signals or pipes? > > Frank > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Trouble with "defunct processes" Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:02:29 GMT From: yan_can_cook@hotmail.com Message-ID: <9t5w6.1436$Bc.1037@newsfeed.slurp.net> I am having a little difficulty with UNIX processes (which correspond to VxWorks subroutines) that remain active when a connection fails with the PPC or when a lockup occurs. This is especially a concern with the ld subroutine. The big problem here is that there is no way to terminate the process (short of doing a shutdown of the Sparc workstation) because it will panic the Sparc. Is there any way to kill the TCL script which calls the ld subroutine when the ld fails without causing the Sparc to enter into a panicked state? Part of my problem may be that the program used to communicate between the Sun and the PPC is rshell (from RTI's Stethoscope utility). I do not believe that this utility was intended for such a use. And, as a result, I am looking at rewriting the communications using an alternate method. Has anyone had experience with any of these topics or have any input? Thanx. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: what's objLib? Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:03:09 +0200 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <985727291.13134@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <98ldn6$s7r$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <984518665.536737@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> <98o8n9$l7k$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <997vlk$gfg$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <3AB8A249.97D16907@agilent.com> <99ad73$56e$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> <3AB91244.94553828@lmco.com> <99db1g$s61$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> And I can't agree with you about the meaning of errno. As per my > understanding, vxWorks reserved some of the module IDs, but anyone else can > creat their own errnos and use them in their code freely to help tracking > some problems. Not only system call. And what's the concept of system call > here? Yes and No: Yes, you can define your own values for errno and use it to pass the details of an error happening in your libraries (or application) to the calling function. But No, the value of errno is valid ONLY, is the called function returned an indication of an error. If the function completed successfully there is no need to care about an error value. This is why Dave said these were OS internals: Maybe the OS tries some call and handles the error condition internally. It will not clear errno to 0 - you never will - for efficiency's sake and because its useless. > > Could you tell me more about > > values of > > random memory locations. > Errno is only set to a valid error code IF an error occured. Otherwise anything may be in there. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: POSIX pipe, not pipeDrv Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:20:22 +0200 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <985728323.551772@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: lookup rngLib if you intend to write such a driver you find good docs about writing a character device driver in the vxworks programmers manual (in the io chapter, don't have one here right now...) regard werner --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Need help with updating an entry in DHCP server. Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:39:34 -0500 From: "Xing, Shaoxi" Organization: Nortel Message-ID: <99r1an$dfg$1@bmerhc5e.ca.nortel.com> Can anyone help me on how to update or clean up the address pool of DHCP server? I can add an entry to the address pool by calling dhcpsLeaseEntryAdd( ), but I do not know how to delete or update it. I tried to use dhcpsInit( ), but it failed. Thanks for any suggestions. Shaoxi shaoxi@nortelnetworks.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: SysAuxClock and periodic task Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:47:32 +0200 From: "JJS" Organization: LT Message-ID: <99r1mu$1n03$1@news4.isdnet.net> References: <99nhg0$8e3$1@news5.isdnet.net> <3ABFAB33.E802A52@wanadoo.fr> Patrick Deiber a écrit dans le message <3ABFAB33.E802A52@wanadoo.fr>... > > >JJS wrote: > >> Hi, >> I am workink on Tornado 2, vxworks 5.4, PPC 603 target (mvme 2303) >> I tried the following program : >> int num=0; >> void Timed(void) >> { >> num++; >> printf("num=%d\n",num); >> if(num==100) >> SysAuxClkDisable(); >> } >> >> void Init() >> { >> SysAuxClkRateSet(n); >> SysAuxClkConnect(Timer,0); >> SysAuxClkEnable(); >> } >> >> I thought if I did n=1, Timed() would be launched every second. >> But every value of n gives the same result without modification on the >> period of Timed() >> What am I doing wrong? >> Thanks >> Jack > >Be carreful, for sysAuxClkRateSet() you need to check the return status of >the call because some value cannot be set. Thanks, this was the reason Jack --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Need help !!! Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:00:12 -0500 From: "Xing, Shaoxi" Organization: Nortel Message-ID: <99r2hd$efm$1@bmerhc5e.ca.nortel.com> Can anyone help me with the following problem??? I can add an entry to the address pool of DHCP server, but I don't know how to update/delete the entry, or clean up the whole address pool. I tried to use dhcpsInit( ), but it failed. Thank you in advance for any suggestions. Best, Shaoxi shaoxi@nortelnetworks.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Shared Memory Booting Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:04:54 -0500 From: s.eckardt@ixthos.com Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99rafb$d82$1@overload.lbl.gov> We are implementing a Shared Memory (SM) network across a VME backplane. We have an on-board Boot ROM which then downloads a VxWorks image via the network. Should the SM master Boot ROM be built without SM support? How else would we prevent the SM slaves from attaching to the "transient" boot version of the SM master? How does the SM master handle two attachments (one from the Boot ROM; one from the downloaded VxWorks) from each SM slave? Suzie Eckardt Chief Software Engineer Ixthos, Inc. s.eckardt@ixthos.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VxWorks Library functions to drive Serial Interface (RS232)? Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:22:28 -0800 From: "V. R. Venkataramana" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99rhgc$710$1@overload.lbl.gov> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C0B6E2.7F830150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would like to find out if Tornado BSP Developer's kit for VxWorks = provide library functions=20 for serial Interface (RS232)? As per Stuart's suggestion, I looked into = Tornado BSP Developer's=20 Kit for VxWorks (Page 77, Section 4.4.5), VxWorks Reference Manual = page1-398, 'ttyDrv and tyLib" which are terminal device specific = library functions. I am interested in finding out if there is Library = function for RS232 serial interface? If yes, can you please point out = where to find information. Also, do you have sample RS232 serial = interface driver code that I can look into? =20 Any pointers to address my questions will be highly appreciated. Thanks, Venkat - ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C0B6E2.7F830150 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I would like to find out if Tornado BSP = Developer's kit for VxWorks provide = library=20 functions
for serial Interface (RS232)?  = As per Stuart's suggestion, I=20 looked into Tornado BSP Developer's =
Kit for VxWorks (Page 77, Section = 4.4.5),=20 VxWorks Reference Manual  = page1-398, 'ttyDrv=20 and tyLib"  which are terminal device specific library functions. I am = interested in=20 finding out if there is Library function for RS232 serial = interface? =20 If yes, can you=20 please point out where to find information.  Also, do you have = sample RS232=20 serial interface driver code that = I can look = into? =20
 
Any pointers to address my = questions will be=20 highly appreciated.
 
Thanks, Venkat
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C0B6E2.7F830150-- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Shared Resources Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:49:58 -0800 From: "BROCKHAGE, Don" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99rhgc$711$1@overload.lbl.gov> This question is related to vxWorks and how it handles shared resources that the OS and application code may access (for example cpu registers). Is there a way for the application to guarantee mutual exclusion relative to the OS besides a taskLock() followed by an intLock()? Also does anyone know how the OS itself protects the cpu's shared resources from application code, is it also to simply taskLock() and intLock()? Thanks Don --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: vxworks query Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:24:01 +0530 From: "Siddharth KarniK" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99rl0q$888$1@overload.lbl.gov> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01C0B697.47407F20" - ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C0B697.47407F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi vxworkers, I have a problem of=20 "My ISR not getting called when interrupt occurs" I am Using PciIntConnect for mapping interrupt and ISR.Also I tried with = intConnect.The interrupt given by my hardware is IRQ9.I am using Tornado = 2.vxworks target is Pentium. The mapping is done as follows: if (pciIntConnect(INUM_TO_IVEC(36),(VOIDFUNCPTR)HcdISR,NULL) =3D=3D = ERROR) =20 logMsg("Interrupt not connected\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); else logMsg("Interrupt is connected\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); if (sysIntEnablePIC(9) =3D=3D ERROR) logMsg("Error in enabling the PIC\n",0,0,0,0,0,0);=20 I am getting message INterrupt is connected I have two questions: 1)Is the Vector address 36(9*4) what I have given right?If not what is = the right one? 2)In the sysIntEnablePIC the help says it accepts IRQNO as I have = given.But the API implementation shows it is accepting intlevel which is = 0x71 for IRQ9(But I have problems with giving 0x71 as well)But what is = the right one? Regards Siddharth - ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C0B697.47407F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi vxworkers,
I have  a problem of
"My ISR not getting called when = interrupt=20 occurs"
I am Using PciIntConnect for mapping = interrupt and=20 ISR.Also I tried with intConnect.The interrupt given by my hardware is = IRQ9.I am=20 using Tornado 2.vxworks target is Pentium.
The mapping is done as = follows:
 
 if=20 (pciIntConnect(INUM_TO_IVEC(36),(VOIDFUNCPTR)HcdISR,NULL) =3D=3D=20 ERROR)         =20
     logMsg("Interrupt not=20 connected\n",0,0,0,0,0,0);
  else
    =20 logMsg("Interrupt is connected\n",0,0,0,0,0,0);
if (sysIntEnablePIC(9) =3D=3D=20 ERROR)
     logMsg("Error in enabling the=20 PIC\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); 
 
I am getting message INterrupt is=20 connected
 
 
I have two questions:
1)Is the Vector address 36(9*4) what I = have given=20 right?If not what is the right one?
2)In the sysIntEnablePIC the help says = it accepts=20 IRQNO as I have given.But the API implementation shows it is accepting = intlevel=20 which is 0x71 for IRQ9(But I have problems with giving 0x71 as well)But = what is=20 the right one?
 
Regards
Siddharth
- ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C0B697.47407F20-- - --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary-- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Tornado query Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:41:58 +0530 From: "Siddharth KarniK" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99s6jc$g1h$1@overload.lbl.gov> hello vxworkers, I have joined your group today.I felt very excited seeing the quality of information flowing through this list. I have one query.This is same as listed by libor(Waszniowski) message id-<3A26A92B.F13304A5@lab.felk.cvut.cz> The query goes as follows: When I map an interrupt (Irq-9) to an ISR the system hangs and the ISR does not get serviced.The mapping is done as follows- (pciIntConnect(INUM_TO_IVEC(data),(VOIDFUNCPTR)HcdISR,NULL) with data as 36 Tornado version I am using is 2.0 and target is PENTIUM As said earlier the problem is similar to one posted but I did not find any solution that will help in solving the problem. Can anybody give me the solution? Regards Siddharth --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Shared Memory Booting Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:42:29 +0100 From: "timallen" Organization: ntlworld News Service Message-ID: References: <99rafb$d82$1@overload.lbl.gov> Reply-To: "timallen" wrote in message news:99rafb$d82$1@overload.lbl.gov... > We are implementing a Shared Memory (SM) network across a VME backplane. > We have an on-board Boot ROM which then downloads a VxWorks image via the > network. Should the SM master Boot ROM be built without SM support? How > else would we prevent the SM slaves from attaching to the "transient" boot > version of the SM master? How does the SM master handle two attachments > (one from the Boot ROM; one from the downloaded VxWorks) from each SM > slave? The smNet protocol handles this for you. You can build the master bootrom with smNet support to avoid the need for different bootroms, and it won't be a problem. The bootrom only initialises the network on which it intends to boot. The master bootrom, if it boots over ethernet, won't initialise the smNet. The loaded vxWorks image will start the smNet if the boot parameters are set appropriately. The slaves will then be able to boot, once they see the smNet master is ready. Regards, Tim. - -------------------- Tim Allen Ltd Real Time Embedded Software Consultancy --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: mkboot utilities under vxworks Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:55:40 +0100 From: f.pertin@staubli.com Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99sh4r$kar$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hello TORNADO and vxworks gurus, I have a x86 target with T2 (CP3) and vxworks5.4. I try to initialise an ata flash disk from the shell with the command - -> mkbootAta (1,0,"bootrom.sys") I get the flowing error: Error during ioctl FIOCONTIG: 381200 value = -1 = 0xffffffff = mkboot.o_bss + 0xff0b4f7b My flash is formated from dos before executing the mkbootAta from vx. Any suggestion realy appreciated ...... thanks in advance Francois --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: help with mil-std-1553 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:07:03 -0800 From: Joe Durusau Organization: Lockheed Martin Corporation Message-ID: <3AC1FE17.F68532B9@lmco.com> References: I'm not interested in moving to Montreal, but why don't you just buy a bus controller. The things exist, including two complete, two-channel devices on a single IPAK. You can also buy software for a few $K. Speaking only for myself, Joe Durusau "Andre Pitre, CPUSOFT" wrote: > > Hello everybody, > > I need a software engineer who can help me with a project in Montreal. This > person should have a good experience in designing mil-std-1553 bus > controller. Please send me a direct mail to andre@cpusoft.com for more > information. Thank you all! > > Andre --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: help with mil-std-1553 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:02:24 GMT From: "Andre Pitre, CPUSOFT" Organization: Sympatico Message-ID: References: <3AC1FE17.F68532B9@lmco.com> This is a 1 year project in Montreal. Under the direction of the Project Engineer, the Software Engineer will design and test real time embedded software products such as Flight Management Systems (FMS). Main responsibility will be for the design of the MIL-STD-1553B Bus Controller/Backup Bus Controller and Remote Terminal software. That's why I need a consultant. Andre Joe Durusau wrote in message news:3AC1FE17.F68532B9@lmco.com... > I'm not interested in moving to Montreal, but why don't you > just buy a bus controller. The things exist, including two complete, > two-channel devices on a single IPAK. You can also buy software for a > few $K. > > Speaking only for myself, > > Joe Durusau > > "Andre Pitre, CPUSOFT" wrote: > > > > Hello everybody, > > > > I need a software engineer who can help me with a project in Montreal. This > > person should have a good experience in designing mil-std-1553 bus > > controller. Please send me a direct mail to andre@cpusoft.com for more > > information. Thank you all! > > > > Andre --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Need help with updating an entry in DHCP server. Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:06:58 +0200 From: Patrick Deiber Organization: PatDB Message-ID: <3AC22841.243D2716@wanadoo.fr> References: <99r1an$dfg$1@bmerhc5e.ca.nortel.com> Reply-To: patrick.deiber@wanadoo.fr Wing, This kind of operation is possible, but you need to add some functions to the DHCP server library. Contact your Wind River sales representative to get more information about this features. Patrick. "Xing, Shaoxi" wrote: > Can anyone help me on how to update or clean up the address pool of DHCP > server? I can add an entry to the address pool by calling > dhcpsLeaseEntryAdd( ), but I do not know how to delete or update it. I tried > to use dhcpsInit( ), but it failed. Thanks for any suggestions. > > Shaoxi > shaoxi@nortelnetworks.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks,comp.sys.powerpc.tech Subject: Re: Help: Software Emulation Exception Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:42:33 GMT From: andrew@cesa.opbu.xerox.com (Andrew Klossner) Organization: Xerox Color Printers, Wilsonville, Oregon Message-ID: <99tbam$arl@tan.cesa.opbu.xerox.com> References: > I am running an process under vxWorks which through a ATA interface writes > then reads sectors on a disk. The write/read cycle will work fine for may > 10000 times an then a Software Emulation Exception occurs ... When this has happened to me, the root cause has been a memory controller error. The instruction fetched from RAM was garbled by the hardware. -=- Andrew Klossner (andrew@cesa.opbu.xerox.com) --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: re: Shared Resources Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:00:37 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Elliott Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99tnqb$b5a$1@overload.lbl.gov> If the CPU register may be accessed atomically, then no protection would be needed (such as reading a on-CPU timer). If the action is non-atomic, such as or-ing some bits in a CPU register, then you would have to take action if you think the kernel, device drivers or other tasks might access it. In your example, the taskLock is not needed, the intLock would block all possibility of a switch to the kernel (unless you make a kernel call while locked). - --- Done Brockhage wrote: > This question is related to vxWorks and how it > handles shared resources that > the OS and application code may access (for example > cpu registers). > > Is there a way for the application to guarantee > mutual exclusion relative to > the OS besides a taskLock() followed by an > intLock()? Also does anyone know > how the OS itself protects the cpu's shared > resources from application code, > is it also to simply taskLock() and intLock()? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: ARP - Multiple Subnets , BSD and END Date: 28 Mar 2001 22:28:14 GMT From: ssaraf@armillaire.com Organization: NewsOne.Net - Free Usenet News via the Web - http://newsone.net/ Message-ID: <99tohu$4qp$1@news.netmar.com> Followup-To: comp.os.vxworks Hi All, I have a big problem at hand and would appreciate any help. I have a board which has two ethernet interfaces(wancom0 and sc2). wancom has a BSD4.4 driver while the sc2 has an END driver. I have the two interfaces and my PC connected to a HUB(nothing else on the HUB). Initially I download the image via the wancom interface(172.25.4.224), the pc is at 172.25.3.69. All netmasks ar 255.255.0.0. Now after the image is downloaded I see an arp entry which looks like: 172.25.3.69 macaddress_of_pc wancom0 Now I change the IP Address of wancom0 to 172.24.4.224(mask is still 255.255.0.0) and do an arpFlush. I see nothing in the arpShow after this. Now I attach the sc2 interface(END) and then assign it an IP 172.25.4.224(255.255.0.0). After this routeShow shows two correct entries for 172.24.0.0 and 172.25.0.0 subnets ... via the correct interfaces. After this when I ping the sc2 interface from the PC, the arp table on the PC is fine ... i.e. it shows the correct mac address(of the sc2) interface, but the arpShow on vxWorks is : 172.25.3.69 macaddress_of_pc wancom0. (should have been sc2 here) I want to know why the interface in the arpShow is wrong? This leads to an overall weird behaviour. Now for the questions: o Is this a known problem? If yes is there a solution to it? o Is this an issue with BSD/END drivers being used together? A Technical note on windsurf says that BSD4.4/END can co-exist peacefully. But if I try the same scenario on a board which again has two interfaces(both having END drivers) ... it works fine. Iam puzzled as to where the problem is, looks to me like a vxworks ARP problem, shouldn't have anything to do with BSD4.4/END. Any help will be highly appreciated. I have been talking to wrs support on this, but haven't received any useful help so far. Thanks and Regards, Suman Saraf. ----- Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the Web ----- http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam. If this or other posts made through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email abuse@newsone.net --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Anybody did embedded development and board design around ultrasparc III chipset ? Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:51:57 -0500 From: "Alexander Povolotsky" Organization: Lucent Technologies, Columbus, Ohio Message-ID: <99tpv4$ji6@nntpb.cb.lucent.com> Anybody did embedded development and board design around ultrasparc III chipset ? Regards, ultrasparc IIe chipset ? Regards, --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: boot from FAT32 drives Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:59:24 -0700 From: "Michael S. Simpson" Organization: Raytheon Company Message-ID: <3AC26CCC.7AEC9612@west.raytheon.com> References: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------A214120BAF03C0A3A8BEC03F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Christophe: Check with Wind Rivers...they have a new file system out that supports FAT32. Mike Simpson Raytheon Missile Systems Christophe Belmont wrote: > > Hi, > > The version of "mkboot.c" that comes with vxWorks only support booting from > FAT16 partitions. I was wondering if one of you had already worked on a > FAT32 version of it or if a new version was available from WindRiver. > > Thank you in advance, > Christophe. - --------------A214120BAF03C0A3A8BEC03F Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="mssimpson.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Michael S. Simpson Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mssimpson.vcf" begin:vcard n:Simpson;Michael tel;pager:520-489-7933 tel;home:520-622-5039 tel;work:520-794-5381 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:mssimpson@west.raytheon.com fn:Michael Simpson end:vcard - --------------A214120BAF03C0A3A8BEC03F-- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: etherInputHookAdd PROMISCOUS MODE ? Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:17:00 -0500 From: Sunil Joseph Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: <3AC28D0C.1C081EF@lucent.com> Folks, Does anybody know if we have to turn on the ethernet device to be in promiscous mode in order to use etherInputHookAdd? Thanks Sunil --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: ..F entries for HP-64 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:31:17 -0500 From: "Corey Ashford" Message-ID: Hi Rick, Hope you had fun on your vacation. It looks like your last fix to the unwind entries is working (though I see you removed the change that subtracts 4 from the endpoint) Now we are able to successfully unwind frames all the way out to the main program and print the "MAIN PROGRAM ABANDONED..." message. So that's good news. The problem currently is that while unwinding seems to work correctly, the exception unwinding code can't find the handler. I've traced the problem down to the ..F entries generated for each unit. What I would expect is that they contain three values per ..F: type Block_Rec is record B_A : System.Address; -- 1 B_Z : System.Address; -- 2 B_Excepts : Except_Ptr; -- 3 (which points to an Except_Rec) end record; type Except_Rec is record E_Ident : System.Address; E_Handler : System.Address; end record; In the runtime parlance, Block_Rec is equivalent to the ..F (frame) structure. So I would expect to see B_A, B_Z, and B_Excepts values that are non-zero. B_A and B_Z are supposed to be PC's relative to the beginning of the unit. Instead what I see is zeroes in all of the ..F entries. Can you take a look at this problem? The testing area is the same as before, but here are the details again for your convenience: rlogin b2k start apex 4.0.0c source /a/corey/corey.39 set path = ($b/hp64_native/bin $path) cd $b/hp64_native/rxu_hppa20.ada95/base/tests/smoke_test) The executable is simple_ex The "link-it" script is called se Just source it to cause a link. - - Corey --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Glass cockpit vendor??? suggestions? Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:42:31 -0500 From: Al Johnston Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <3AC29307.D2A96248@mindspring.com> We use Virtual (ly unsupported) Prototype's VAPS software (CCG) to provide a user interface (glass cockpit) to our test stations (aircraft simulators). I have just learned that VPI is no longer supporing VAPS, which was a bit of a shock to us. They sure took our money.... We are looking for alternatives. Unix based, currently using sgi boxes. Anyone have a recommendation(s)? tnx, a. johnston --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: ..F entries for HP-64 <--- Ooops. Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:43:20 -0500 From: "Corey Ashford" Message-ID: References: My apologies. This was supposed to be an email to a colleague. Please ignore. "Corey Ashford" wrote in message news:E166E69A95753648BC398E36BE9A3AB80D55F501@sus-ma1it06.rational.com... > > Hi Rick, > > Hope you had fun on your vacation. > > It looks like your last > fix to the unwind entries is working (though I see you removed > the change that subtracts 4 from the endpoint) > > Now we are able to successfully unwind frames all the way out > to the main program and print the "MAIN PROGRAM ABANDONED..." > message. So that's good news. > > The problem currently is that while unwinding seems to work > correctly, the exception unwinding code can't find the > handler. > > I've traced the problem down to the ..F entries generated for > each unit. What I would expect > is that they contain three values per ..F: > > type Block_Rec is > record > B_A : System.Address; -- 1 > B_Z : System.Address; -- 2 > B_Excepts : Except_Ptr; -- 3 (which points to an Except_Rec) > end record; > > type Except_Rec is > record > E_Ident : System.Address; > E_Handler : System.Address; > end record; > > In the runtime parlance, Block_Rec is equivalent to the > ..F (frame) structure. So I would expect to see B_A, B_Z, > and B_Excepts values that are non-zero. B_A and B_Z are > supposed to be PC's relative to the beginning of the unit. > Instead what I see is zeroes in all of the ..F entries. > > Can you take a look at this problem? > > The testing area is the same as before, but here are the > details again for your convenience: > > rlogin b2k > start apex 4.0.0c > source /a/corey/corey.39 > set path = ($b/hp64_native/bin $path) > cd $b/hp64_native/rxu_hppa20.ada95/base/tests/smoke_test) > > The executable is simple_ex > The "link-it" script is called se > > Just source it to cause a link. > > - Corey > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: How long is one tick in VxWorks? Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:49:19 -0800 From: "William Cheung" Organization: Intel Corporation Message-ID: <99u49u$pkn@news.or.intel.com> Hi all, I am trying to implement a timeout function using taskDelay but I cannot figure out how I can convert the timeout value (say in microseconds) into clock ticks. May someone please let me know how I can determine the duration of each tick in microseconds or nanoseconds. Thanks, William Cheung --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How long is one tick in VxWorks? Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 03:20:41 GMT From: "iiseull" Organization: Dacom Message-ID: References: <99u49u$pkn@news.or.intel.com> sysClkRateGet () give you how many ticks a second "William Cheung" wrote in message news:99u49u$pkn@news.or.intel.com... > Hi all, > > I am trying to implement a timeout function using taskDelay but I cannot > figure out how I > can convert the timeout value (say in microseconds) into clock ticks. May > someone please > let me know how I can determine the duration of each tick in microseconds or > nanoseconds. > > Thanks, > William Cheung > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: how to printf a 64bit long long? Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:43:10 -0800 From: chenchen@greatlink.net Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3AC2AF4E.3EC88883@greatlink.net> Hi, Does anyone know how to print out a 64 bit integer (long long type) using printf? thanks. CK --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: WTX EXCHANGE TIMEOUT Date: 29 Mar 2001 05:08:45 -0000 From: "vxworks post" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99ujub$qmv$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi I am using tornado 1.01 BSP coldfire 5307 for my project. Frequently i am getting the following error message WTX Error 0x10197 (Exchange Timeout) Error while pooling for events : Can anyone help me locate the cause of the above error message and under which circumstances does it occur. Thanks VxWorker _____________________________________________________ Chat with your friends as soon as they come online. Get Rediff Bol at http://bol.rediff.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: How to concatenate bootrom and vxWorks with S-records Date: 29 Mar 2001 17:39:22 +0900 From: Takahiro Yamaguchi Organization: Sony Corp Message-ID: I want to store bootrom and vxworks system image into flash rom with S-foramt. 1. changes bootrom to bootrom.hex(S-recods) /Tornado/host/x86-win32/bin/objcopymips -O srec --remove-section=.pdr --binary-without-bss --set-start=0x0 --ignore-vma bootrom bootrom.hex 2. changes vxworks to vxworks.hex /Tornado/host/x86-win32/bin/objcopymips -O srec vxWorks vxWorks.hex 3. How do I concatenate these two files? - -- Takahiro Yamaguchi --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How to concatenate bootrom and vxWorks with S-records Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:24:37 +0200 From: Emmanuel Herbreteau Organization: SEPRO Robotique (BEP) Message-ID: <3AC30D65.F8192752@sepro-robotique.com> References: Takahiro Yamaguchi wrote: > I want to store bootrom and vxworks system image into flash rom with > S-foramt. Hi Bootrom is just a VxWorks ROMable image that load and run an other image from a different media (Ethernet, Serial, ATA, PCMCIA, SCSI, etc...), generally a bigger image or a removable media (for easy software upgrade). A bootrom use "bootConfig.c" as usrRoot() instead of the standard usrRoot() that launch your usrAppInit(). Source code is provided in /target/config/all. No need for a bootrom in your case : just create your final application as "rom_resident vxworks" and write it in your flash-ROM. It should boot directly. - -- Regards Emmanuel. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: vxworks tyWrite( ) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:22:41 +0000 (UTC) From: aditi_kapoor@hotmail.com ("Aditi Kapoor") Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_014C_01C0B872.7C45DDF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi , I have been working on developing a serial driver in VxWorks. I = could implement a polled version of it, however I am facing problems in = the interrupt mode version.=20 =20 1. I had tried registering a tyWrite( ) call as the driver's write = routine. But somehow it didnt work on a user write( ) call. The problem = is surely not with the registering coz' user open call reaches the = driver's open call.=20 2. Thus, I then implemented a ring buffer, to which data was written = when the driver's write( ) call was made.=20 When i try reading the number of bytes from this ring buffer, i get the = correct value, however the data doesnt get transmitted on the channel. I want to know, am i missing some details in writing to buffer or the = tyWrite calls. ( I have done the callback installs to tyITx( ) as well.=20 Also, there seems to be just one interrupt being raised when i do a = write( ) user call. Please let me know when and how does the interrrupt = get invoked for the write calls. I hope I am not bothering u, and shall be really grateful if you = could help me with this. Regards Aditi Kapoor =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_014C_01C0B872.7C45DDF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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        I = have been=20 working on developing a serial driver in VxWorks. I could implement a = polled=20 version of it, however I am facing problems in the interrupt mode = version.=20
 
 1. I had tried registering a = tyWrite( ) call=20 as the driver's write routine. But somehow it didnt work on a user = write( )=20 call. The problem is surely not with the registering coz' user open call = reaches=20 the driver's open call.
2. Thus, I then implemented a ring = buffer, to which=20 data was written when the driver's write( ) call was made.
When i try reading the number of bytes = from this=20 ring buffer, i get the correct value, however the data doesnt get = transmitted on=20 the channel.
 
I want to know, am i missing some = details in=20 writing to buffer or the tyWrite calls. ( I have done the callback = installs to=20 tyITx( ) as well.
Also, there seems to be just one = interrupt being=20 raised when i do a write( ) user call. Please let me know when and how = does the=20 interrrupt get invoked for the write calls.
 
    I hope I am not = bothering u, and=20 shall be really grateful if you could help me with this.
 
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- ------=_NextPart_000_014C_01C0B872.7C45DDF0-- - -- Posted from [203.88.141.42] by way of oe29.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.86] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: vxworks query Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:37:50 +0200 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <985866174.54940@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <99rl0q$888$1@overload.lbl.gov> Try pciIntConnect(INUM_TO_IVEC(0x20 + 9),(VOIDFUNCPTR)HcdISR,NULL and sysIntEnablePIC(9) hth werner --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: mkboot utilities under vxworks Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:12:29 +0200 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <985868253.178316@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <99sh4r$kar$1@overload.lbl.gov> We had similar problems with some certain types of flash disks. It seems the VxWorks filesystem is not able to find a large enough contigous block on the disk to store the BOOTROM.SYS file. (This is what the IOCTL that causes the failure should do). We worked around as following - - vxcopy the bootrom_uncmp file to bootrom.sys with the command line tool on the host - - boot the target with a dos disk - - vxsys the target (the vxsys.com utility runs under plain DOS, in contrast to vxcopy.exe) - - copy the bootrom.sys file to the root of the (preferingly freshly formatted) drive - - if you experience problems while loading the bootrom defrag the disk with the msdos DEFRAG and be sure to select complete reorganization, to get the BOOTROM.SYS file in one piece - - you can verify if the BOOTROM.SYS file is in one piece on the disk with CHKDSK C:\BOOTROM.SYS hth werner wrote in message news:99sh4r$kar$1@overload.lbl.gov... > Hello TORNADO and vxworks gurus, > > I have a x86 target with T2 (CP3) and vxworks5.4. > I try to initialise an ata flash disk from the shell with the command > -> mkbootAta (1,0,"bootrom.sys") > > I get the flowing error: > Error during ioctl FIOCONTIG: 381200 > value = -1 = 0xffffffff = mkboot.o_bss + 0xff0b4f7b > > My flash is formated from dos before executing the mkbootAta from vx. > > Any suggestion realy appreciated ...... > > thanks in advance > > Francois > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: DHCP Client Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:37:15 GMT From: kimp@avtecinc.com (Kim Putnam) Organization: Info Avenue Internet Services Message-ID: <3ac32b4e.252218@192.168.1.214> We are running tornado II, vxworks 5.4 on a vmicpci 7715. we had hoped to use a DHCP Client to get our ip address. I've been fishing around the archives, and it appears that the dhcp app has some problems. I have gotten the tornado cumulative patch III and found some tech papers on some mods to usrNetDhcpcBootSetup.c and usrNetDhcpcCfg.c. Am I going to succeed with dhcp or is it a ponderous task. K --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Reading VxWorks-formatted disks on Unix Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:48:32 -0500 From: Gerald Heymsfield Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center Message-ID: <3AC32F1E.7B49B1E7@agnes.gsfc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: heymsfield@agnes.gsfc.nasa.gov I have removable disk drives on my VxWorks system and would like to mount and read the drives on a Unix system. Does any one have a utility to read these DOSFS VxWorks formatted disks with Unix or Linux? I was thinking of modifying a utilitly like mtools to do this unless someone has a better alternative. Gerry - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- * Gerry Heymsfield NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center * * gerald.heymsfield@gsfc.nasa.gov - ----------------------------------------------------------------------* --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Reading VxWorks-formatted disks on Unix Date: 29 Mar 2001 14:16:49 +0100 (BST) From: Martin Read Organization: Linux Unlimited Message-ID: References: <3AC32F1E.7B49B1E7@agnes.gsfc.nasa.gov> In article <3AC32F1E.7B49B1E7@agnes.gsfc.nasa.gov>, Gerald Heymsfield wrote: >I have removable disk drives on my VxWorks system and would >like to mount and read the drives on a Unix system. Does any one >have a utility to read these DOSFS VxWorks formatted disks >with Unix or Linux? I was thinking of modifying a utilitly >like mtools to do this unless someone has a better alternative. What kind of removable disk? I know Linux can mount DOS file systems, since that's the best way to read Zip disks on a Linux box. m. - -- \_\/_/ Martin Read \ / who is that boy creeping round my door think i've seen his face before \/ -- the Morgans, "Half Girl Half Jesus" --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: DHCP Client Date: 29 Mar 2001 13:43:11 GMT From: borkhuis@agere.com (Johan Borkhuis) Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: References: <3ac32b4e.252218@192.168.1.214> kimp@avtecinc.com (Kim Putnam) wrote: >We are running tornado II, vxworks 5.4 on a vmicpci 7715. we had >hoped to use a DHCP Client to get our ip address. I've been fishing >around the archives, and it appears that the dhcp app has some >problems. > >I have gotten the tornado cumulative patch III and found some tech >papers on some mods to usrNetDhcpcBootSetup.c and usrNetDhcpcCfg.c. > >Am I going to succeed with dhcp or is it a ponderous task. If you look at CP4 (AKA Tornado 2.0.2) there is a new implementation of the DHCP part in there. Might be worth a look. Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: DHCP Client Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:57:53 GMT From: kimp@avtecinc.com (Kim Putnam) Organization: Info Avenue Internet Services Message-ID: <3ac33f4e.5372359@192.168.1.214> References: <3ac32b4e.252218@192.168.1.214> Great where do I find cp4? K On 29 Mar 2001 13:43:11 GMT, borkhuis@agere.com (Johan Borkhuis) wrote: >kimp@avtecinc.com (Kim Putnam) wrote: > >>We are running tornado II, vxworks 5.4 on a vmicpci 7715. we had >>hoped to use a DHCP Client to get our ip address. I've been fishing >>around the archives, and it appears that the dhcp app has some >>problems. >> >>I have gotten the tornado cumulative patch III and found some tech >>papers on some mods to usrNetDhcpcBootSetup.c and usrNetDhcpcCfg.c. >> >>Am I going to succeed with dhcp or is it a ponderous task. > >If you look at CP4 (AKA Tornado 2.0.2) there is a new implementation of the >DHCP part in there. Might be worth a look. > >Groeten, > Johan > >-- > o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ > o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | > .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | > >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| > _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` >=== VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: DHCP Client Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:59:33 GMT From: kimp@avtecinc.com (Kim Putnam) Organization: Info Avenue Internet Services Message-ID: <3ac33fb5.5475484@192.168.1.214> References: <3ac32b4e.252218@192.168.1.214> <3ac33f4e.5372359@192.168.1.214> Never mind. Spoke before I looked around. K On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:57:53 GMT, kimp@avtecinc.com (Kim Putnam) wrote: >Great where do I find cp4? > >K >On 29 Mar 2001 13:43:11 GMT, borkhuis@agere.com (Johan Borkhuis) >wrote: > >>kimp@avtecinc.com (Kim Putnam) wrote: >> >>>We are running tornado II, vxworks 5.4 on a vmicpci 7715. we had >>>hoped to use a DHCP Client to get our ip address. I've been fishing >>>around the archives, and it appears that the dhcp app has some >>>problems. >>> >>>I have gotten the tornado cumulative patch III and found some tech >>>papers on some mods to usrNetDhcpcBootSetup.c and usrNetDhcpcCfg.c. >>> >>>Am I going to succeed with dhcp or is it a ponderous task. >> >>If you look at CP4 (AKA Tornado 2.0.2) there is a new implementation of the >>DHCP part in there. Might be worth a look. >> >>Groeten, >> Johan >> >>-- >> o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ >> o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | >> .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | >> >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| >> _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` >>=== VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === >> > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: etherInputHookAdd PROMISCOUS MODE ? Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:29:56 -0500 From: "nitin kumar" Organization: Marconi Message-ID: <99vgna$a60$1@newsfeed.pit.comms.marconi.com> References: <3AC28D0C.1C081EF@lucent.com> Hi, I do not believe that is the case. The hook routine is just called by your ethernet driver when it receives a packet. What might be happening, is that the device might not be handing of packets to your driver. I ran into a similar problem on our boards, when the driver would receive packets only when the chip was set in a promisc mode. The problem turned out that I had programmed the MAC address in correctly in the chip registers, so it was dropping all unicast packets addressed to this chip. Setting it in promisc. mode made it work as it no longer tried to look at the mac address of the incoming packets. Nitin Sunil Joseph wrote in message news:3AC28D0C.1C081EF@lucent.com... > Folks, > Does anybody know if we have to turn on the ethernet device to be in promiscous > mode in order to use etherInputHookAdd? > Thanks > Sunil --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Can VxWorks withstand Denial of Service attacks? Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:25:25 +0100 From: "cecil" Message-ID: <985886735.21081.0.nnrp-09.d4e4b8d1@news.demon.co.uk> Does anybody know if VxWorks can withstand a Denial of Service attack? Does have any known problems? See http://www.zdnet.com/devhead/stories/articles/0,4413,2172746,00.html and summary at http://www.zdnet.com/devhead/stories/articles/0,4413,2172804,00.html Thanks Nigel --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: There are still some "source run-on" problems in the HTML versions of the Apex manuals Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:39:26 GMT From: "Corey Ashford" Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: Hi Candy, I was glancing over some documentation in the section titled Using the Ada Runtime. There are a lot of code examples in there that are getting stuck all on one line. Can you look into this problem? It may be elsewhere in the manual set as well. - - Corey --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: There are still some "source run-on" problems in the HTML versions of the Apex manuals <-- oops again. Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:44:11 GMT From: "Corey Ashford" Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: References: I've got to be more careful. This was another thing sent intended to be an email. Please ignore. "Corey Ashford" wrote in message news:irKw6.640918$U46.19727455@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com... > > Hi Candy, > > I was glancing over some documentation in the section titled > Using the Ada Runtime. > > There are a lot of code examples in there that are getting > stuck all on one line. > > Can you look into this problem? It may be elsewhere in the > manual set as well. > > - Corey > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: DHCP Server problem Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:38:05 -0500 From: "VxWorks" Message-ID: <99vstd$33p1q$1@ID-82722.news.dfncis.de> Hi all, Anyone using the vxworks DHCP server? I am having trouble with DHCP server lease entries not being preserved when the unit I am running the server in is rebooted. The dhcp server lease store routine is called on start up and reads the leases that were previously saved. When the first dhcp lease request is received, the server lease store routine is called with a "STOP'", then a "CLEAR" and then a "START" and the wrong addresses are handed out. When these leases are then handed out to the pc's on the network, the VxWorks DHCP server doesn't call the store routine to WRITE the latest lease entries. This does not happen until the lease expires. Rick Webb Rick.Webb@vina-tech.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: DHCP Server Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:40:14 -0500 From: "VxWorks" Message-ID: <99vsti$33p1q$2@ID-82722.news.dfncis.de> Hi all, Anyone using the vxworks DHCP server? I am having trouble with DHCP server lease entries not being preserved when the unit I am running the server in is rebooted. The dhcp server lease store routine is called on start up and reads the leases that were previously saved. When the first dhcp lease request is received, the server lease store routine is called with a "STOP'", then a "CLEAR" and then a "START" and the wrong addresses are handed out. When these leases are then handed out to the pc's on the network, the VxWorks DHCP server doesn't call the store routine to WRITE the latest lease entries. This does not happen until the lease expires. Rick Webb Rick.Webb@vina-tech.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: DHCP Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:20:48 -0800 From: Rick Webb Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <99vu4b$h4c$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi all, Anyone using the vxworks DHCP server? I am having trouble with DHCP server lease entries not being preserved when the unit I am running the server in is rebooted. The dhcp server lease store routine is called on start up and reads the leases that were previously saved. When the first dhcp lease request is received, the server lease store routine is called with a "STOP'", then a "CLEAR" and then a "START" and the wrong addresses are handed out. When these leases are then handed out to the pc's on the network, the VxWorks DHCP server doesn't call the store routine to WRITE the latest lease entries. This does not happen until the lease expires. Rick Webb Rick.Webb@vina-tech.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: re: WTX EXCHANGE TIMEOUT Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:44:42 -0800 From: Bruce Wilson Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: I saw similar behavior when doing lots of printf's to the console. The error messages were eliminated by inserting a taskDelay of 0.25 second every 2000 lines. >Submitted-by vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Wed Mar 28 21:30:18 2001 >Submitted-by: "vxworks post" > >Hi > >I am using tornado 1.01 BSP coldfire 5307 for my project. Frequently >i am getting the following error message > >WTX Error 0x10197 (Exchange Timeout) >Error while pooling for events : > >Can anyone help me locate the cause of the above error message and >under which circumstances does it occur. > >Thanks >VxWorker Bruce A. Wilson U.C. Lawrence Livermore National Lab P.O. Box 808 (L-278) Livermore, CA 94550 voice: (925) 422-4145 fax: (925) 423-1243 --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: how to printf a 64bit long long? Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:15:49 -0500 From: "Corey Ashford" Message-ID: References: <3AC2AF4E.3EC88883@greatlink.net> try %llx (or %lld depending on which radix you want) - - Corey wrote in message news:3AC2AF4E.3EC88883@greatlink.net... > Hi, > > Does anyone know how to print out a 64 bit integer (long long type) > using printf? > thanks. > > CK --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: re-entrant version of signal? Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:56:51 -0500 From: "Hilton" Organization: Nortel Message-ID: <9a00hj$kjr$1@bmerhc5e.ca.nortel.com> Hi, Is there a re-entrant version of signal() (ie. a _signal_r() equivalent) for vxWorks that would allow someone to pass extra variables to a signal handler? The default only allows handlers to accept an int (the code for the signal). The sigaction() function seems to only allow the passing of extra variables that return only os specific values. I'd like to write my handler as below. myHandler( mystruct *ptr, int sigcode) Hilton --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: [Fwd: Fw: vxworks query] Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:46:44 +0530 From: "Ramkumar Srinivasan" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <9a01kr$ic1$1@overload.lbl.gov> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------1701E08ED8166D9C1088B93C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - --------------1701E08ED8166D9C1088B93C Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from 1410313siddharth ([164.164.27.80]) by sarovar.mail.wipro.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GAWMHP00.AXY for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:28:37 +0530 Message-ID: <00ee01c0b6ac$c6e991c0$501ba4a4@wipro.com> From: "Siddharth KarniK" To: Subject: Fw: vxworks query Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:27:55 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EB_01C0B6DA.E06F7320" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00EB_01C0B6DA.E06F7320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: siddharth=20 To: vxwexplo@lbl.gov=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 8:24 AM Subject: vxworks query hi vxworkers, I have a problem of=20 "My ISR not getting called when interrupt occurs" I am Using PciIntConnect for mapping interrupt and ISR.Also I tried with = intConnect.The interrupt given by my hardware is IRQ9.I am using Tornado = 2.vxworks target is Pentium. The mapping is done as follows: if (pciIntConnect(INUM_TO_IVEC(36),(VOIDFUNCPTR)HcdISR,NULL) =3D=3D = ERROR) =20 logMsg("Interrupt not connected\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); else logMsg("Interrupt is connected\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); if (sysIntEnablePIC(9) =3D=3D ERROR) logMsg("Error in enabling the PIC\n",0,0,0,0,0,0);=20 I am getting message INterrupt is connected I have two questions: 1)Is the Vector address 36(9*4) what I have given right?If not what is = the right one? 2)In the sysIntEnablePIC the help says it accepts IRQNO as I have = given.But the API implementation shows it is accepting intlevel which is = 0x71 for IRQ9(But I have problems with giving 0x71 as well)But what is = the right one? Regards Siddharth - ------=_NextPart_000_00EB_01C0B6DA.E06F7320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: siddharth
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 8:24 AM
Subject: vxworks query

hi vxworkers,
I have  a problem of
"My ISR not getting called when = interrupt=20 occurs"
I am Using PciIntConnect for mapping = interrupt and=20 ISR.Also I tried with intConnect.The interrupt given by my hardware is = IRQ9.I am=20 using Tornado 2.vxworks target is Pentium.
The mapping is done as = follows:
 
 if=20 (pciIntConnect(INUM_TO_IVEC(36),(VOIDFUNCPTR)HcdISR,NULL) =3D=3D=20 ERROR)         =20
     logMsg("Interrupt not=20 connected\n",0,0,0,0,0,0);
  else
    =20 logMsg("Interrupt is connected\n",0,0,0,0,0,0);
if (sysIntEnablePIC(9) =3D=3D=20 ERROR)
     logMsg("Error in enabling the=20 PIC\n",0,0,0,0,0,0); 
 
I am getting message INterrupt is=20 connected
 
 
I have two questions:
1)Is the Vector address 36(9*4) what I = have given=20 right?If not what is the right one?
2)In the sysIntEnablePIC the help says = it accepts=20 IRQNO as I have given.But the API implementation shows it is accepting = intlevel=20 which is 0x71 for IRQ9(But I have problems with giving 0x71 as well)But = what is=20 the right one?
 
Regards
Siddharth
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Is there any graceful way of doing so? taskDeleteForce() will leave the socket resources uncleaned and shutdown() on the socket from another task just confuses the accept() function and it bombs. Greg. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How long is one tick in VxWorks? Date: 29 Mar 2001 21:02:42 GMT From: mam@Eng.Sun.COM (Mark A. Matthews) Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Message-ID: <9a07ti$7c$1@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> References: <99u49u$pkn@news.or.intel.com> In article <99u49u$pkn@news.or.intel.com>, William Cheung wrote: >I am trying to implement a timeout function using taskDelay but I cannot >figure out how I can convert the timeout value (say in microseconds) into >clock ticks. May someone please let me know how I can determine the >duration of each tick in microseconds or nanoseconds. From the VxWorks Reference Manual - sysClkRate() - returns the number os ticks per second of the system clock. - -- - -Mark --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How long is one tick in VxWorks? Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:42:28 +0200 From: "JJS" Organization: LT Message-ID: <9a0a5f$1h0e$1@news5.isdnet.net> References: <99u49u$pkn@news.or.intel.com> William Cheung a écrit dans le message <99u49u$pkn@news.or.intel.com>... >Hi all, > >I am trying to implement a timeout function using taskDelay but I cannot >figure out how I >can convert the timeout value (say in microseconds) into clock ticks. May >someone please >let me know how I can determine the duration of each tick in microseconds or >nanoseconds. > >Thanks, >William Cheung > taskDelay(sysClkRateGet()/n); // delay nth of second There is also nanosleep(); Jack --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: arp Query Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:46:38 GMT From: manishjagtap@hotmail.com Organization: http://www.newsranger.com Message-ID: <23Ow6.1229$bY4.2536@www.newsranger.com> Sender: usenet@www.newsranger.com Hi, Given a MAC address I need to find corresponding IP address. Here we assume that there ia an entry for this MAC in arp table. VxWorks has arpAdd, arpDelete, arpShow API but there is no arpQuery API. Please suggest me various ways by which I can find IP address for a MAC address. Thanks, Manish --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: "VISA" software for VxWorks? Date: 29 Mar 2001 22:28:58 GMT From: PleaseReplyTo@Newsgroup.com Organization: NewsOne.Net - Free Usenet News via the Web - http://newsone.net/ Message-ID: <9a0cva$n2s$1@news.netmar.com> Followup-To: comp.os.vxworks Hello VxWorks and Tornado users, Is there "VISA" interface software available for VxWorks? We would like to use VISA to control a National Instruments GPIB-1014P card (VMEbus) and we have other devices (GPIB and VMEbus) that already use VISA. Thanks, Kent khamonAtLintekDotCom ----- Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the Web ----- http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam. If this or other posts made through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email abuse@newsone.net --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: [Q] Subclasses in CrossWind Watch Window Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:18:52 GMT From: rjdejoie@kmrmail.kmr.ll.mit.edu (Bob DeJoie) Message-ID: <3ac3bf61.95550834@news> I am using T2 for PPC, with cumulative patch 2. If I display a variable that is a sub class of a class hierarchy in the watch window the first data members of all the subclasses that make up the hierarchy are missing. If I print the varible in the debug command window everything is shown correctly. I did a search of SPRs on windsurf and didn't find anything that appeared to relate to this. Am I missing something? ================================================ Bob DeJoie Kwajalein Missile Range Republic of the Marshall Islands email: rjdejoie@kmrmail.kmr.ll.mit.edu     phone: 805-355-5855 fax: 805-355-3833 Time Zone: GMT +12 hours                      ================================================ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: sockets: aborting an accept() call Date: 30 Mar 2001 01:16:54 GMT From: litwin@izzy.jpl.nasa.gov (Todd Litwin) Organization: jpl.nasa.gov Message-ID: <9a0mq6$ns7$1@nntp1.jpl.nasa.gov> References: <3ac399d2@rsl2.rslnet.net> >Is there any way to get a task to abort an accept() call? It's more complicated, but I do this by using non-blocking sockets. I use select() to wait for the socket to be ready to read before doing the accept call. It ought to be easy for you to arrange to have the select() call end early and then have your task quit when you want to do a shutdown. Of course, using non-blocking sockets complicates all the socket I/O as well, but that's the price you pay if you want to be able to abort (or, as in my case, time out) at any stage. - -- Todd Litwin Jet Propulsion Laboratory Phone: (818) 354-5028; FAX: (818) 354-5028 Email: Todd.E.Litwin@jpl.nasa.gov --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How to concatenate bootrom and vxWorks with S-records Date: 30 Mar 2001 10:58:59 +0900 From: Takahiro Yamaguchi Organization: Sony Corp Message-ID: References: <3AC30D65.F8192752@sepro-robotique.com> Emmanuel Herbreteau writes: > Bootrom is just a VxWorks ROMable image that load and run > an other image from a different media (Ethernet, Serial, > ATA, PCMCIA, SCSI, etc...), generally a bigger image > or a removable media (for easy software upgrade). I know. > No need for a bootrom in your case : just create your > final application as "rom_resident vxworks" and write > it in your flash-ROM. It should boot directly. I want to boot vxworks image from Ethernet or flash-ROM with switchable by modifing bootCmdLoop in bootConfig.c. How do I do? - -- Takahiro Yamaguchi --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VxWorks API : arp or rarp API Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 02:52:53 GMT From: manish Organization: http://www.newsranger.com Message-ID: <9ySw6.1365$bY4.3707@www.newsranger.com> Sender: usenet@www.newsranger.com Hi, Given a MAC address I need to find corresponding IP address. Here we assume that there is an entry for this MAC in arp table. VxWorks has arpAdd, arpDelete, arpShow API but there are no arpQuery or rarp APIs. Please suggest me various ways by which I can find IP address for a MAC address. Parsing redirected output of arpshow is one possible way. Anything better? Thanks, Manish --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: How can the OS ignore ICMP redirects? Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:03:42 GMT From: "Bob Barned" Organization: Verio Message-ID: I would like to be able to configure VxWorks to ignore ICMP redirects. Can I do this? If not is there another solution such as writing a packet filter. Can someone point me to information about how to write a packet filter? Thank you for your help. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: [Q] END/NPT and MUX interface Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:06:15 +0900 From: "ÀÌÁ¦Çå\(Jerry\)" Organization: Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute (ETRI) Message-ID: <9a14a9$r6u$1@news.etri.re.kr> Hello, I'm Jerry. Now I'm trying to combine Trillium's IPoA product with VxWorks IP layer through MUX interface. Could you answer followings? Q1. VxWorks has END and NPT. Which one should I use? I'm using Tornado 2 and VxWorks 5.4 in my Windows 2000 pro PC. What's the difference between them? I heard that NPT make effect on already-have BSPs for our boards. Am I right? Is it safe to install and use NPT? Q2. I already have BSPs for our boards and SAR device driver for them. But these drivers don't follow END style. And MUX interface have several primitives that I have to write and use. Among them, some primitives have similar function calls which are already made and used in our SAR device driver. So I'm confusing. Should I make and use those primitives? Or are there any simple way to do this? Specially netJobAdd() of ISR, netPoolInit() Sincerely, Jerry --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: VxWorks serial driver problems Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:49:36 +0530 From: "Aditi Kapoor" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <9a14pq$3g9$1@overload.lbl.gov> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00D8_01C0B907.1CF2AEB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hi , I have been working on developing a serial driver in VxWorks. I = could implement a polled version of it, however I am facing problems in = the interrupt mode version.=20 =20 1. I had tried registering a tyWrite( ) call as the driver's write = routine. But somehow it didnt work on a user write( ) call. The problem = is surely not with the registering coz' user open call reaches the = driver's open call.=20 2. Thus, I then implemented a ring buffer, to which data was written = when the driver's write( ) call was made.=20 When i try reading the number of bytes from this ring buffer, i get the = correct value, however the data doesnt get transmitted on the channel. I want to know, am i missing some details in writing to buffer or the = tyWrite calls. ( I have done the callback installs to tyITx( ) as well.=20 Also, there seems to be just one interrupt being raised when i do a = write( ) user call. Please let me know when and how does the interrrupt = get invoked for the write calls. I hope I am not bothering u, and shall be really grateful if you = could help me with this. Regards Aditi Kapoor =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_00D8_01C0B907.1CF2AEB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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        I = have been=20 working on developing a serial driver in VxWorks. I could implement a = polled=20 version of it, however I am facing problems in the interrupt mode = version.=20
 
 1. I had tried registering a = tyWrite( ) call=20 as the driver's write routine. But somehow it didnt work on a user = write( )=20 call. The problem is surely not with the registering coz' user open call = reaches=20 the driver's open call.
2. Thus, I then implemented a ring = buffer, to which=20 data was written when the driver's write( ) call was made.
When i try reading the number of bytes = from this=20 ring buffer, i get the correct value, however the data doesnt get = transmitted on=20 the channel.
 
I want to know, am i missing some = details in=20 writing to buffer or the tyWrite calls. ( I have done the callback = installs to=20 tyITx( ) as well.
Also, there seems to be just one = interrupt being=20 raised when i do a write( ) user call. Please let me know when and how = does the=20 interrrupt get invoked for the write calls.
 
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- ------=_NextPart_000_00D8_01C0B907.1CF2AEB0-- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How to concatenate bootrom and vxWorks with S-records Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:19:15 +0200 From: Emmanuel Herbreteau Organization: SEPRO Robotique (BEP) Message-ID: <3AC42563.509A39E5@sepro-robotique.com> References: <3AC30D65.F8192752@sepro-robotique.com> Takahiro Yamaguchi wrote: > Emmanuel Herbreteau writes: > > Bootrom is just a VxWorks ROMable image that load and run > I know. oooppss ! :-) Sorry... > I want to boot vxworks image from Ethernet or flash-ROM > with switchable by modifing bootCmdLoop in bootConfig.c. > How do I do? Hum... try to type "make bootrom.bin" in your BSP directory ?! You probably already know this, but that's the way it work on my MBX 821. It should create a vxworks image with console menu. It depends on your BSP. Take a look at #define DEFAULT_BOOT_LINE also, in "config/your_bsp/config.h" (that's all I know. Unfortunately, I'm just a VxWorks rookie...) - -- Regards Emmanuel. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks,comp.sys.powerpc.tech Subject: Re: Help: Software Emulation Exception Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:07:00 +1000 From: Tom Evans Organization: OzEmail Ltd, Australia Message-ID: <3AC43094.7E6C@nospam.invalid> References: <99tbam$arl@tan.cesa.opbu.xerox.com> Andrew Klossner wrote: > When this has happened to me, the root cause has been a memory > controller error. The instruction fetched from RAM was garbled by the > hardware. If your emulator supports it, inspect the instructions in the INSTRUCTION CACHE after the interrupt. They should show any misfetch. Tom Evans InitialSurnameAt tennyson.com.au --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: How to concatenate bootrom and vxWorks with S-records Date: 30 Mar 2001 16:52:24 +0900 From: Takahiro Yamaguchi Organization: Sony Corp Message-ID: References: <3AC30D65.F8192752@sepro-robotique.com> <3AC42563.509A39E5@sepro-robotique.com> Emmanuel Herbreteau writes: > Takahiro Yamaguchi wrote: > > Emmanuel Herbreteau writes: > > > Bootrom is just a VxWorks ROMable image that load and run > > I know. > > oooppss ! :-) > Sorry... I apperciated you. > > I want to boot vxworks image from Ethernet or flash-ROM > > with switchable by modifing bootCmdLoop in bootConfig.c. > > How do I do? I have solved this problem like this. 1. I added boot menu whcih boot from flashrom in bootmenu. the content is copy vxworks images of flashrom to main memory. the jump entry point. 2. make bootrom.hex again 3. check the size of bootrom by checking bootrom.hex 3. make the s-records from vxWorks image by using objcopymips. objcopymips -O srec --set-start=0x0 --ignore-vma vxWorks vxWorks.hex 4. check the size of vxWorks image by checking vxWorks.hex 5. make the s-records with offset of bootrom size. objcopymips -O srec --set-start=0x???? --ignore-vma vxWorks vxWorks.hex ???? means bootrom size. 6. cat bootrom.hex vxWorks.hex > boot.hex 7. remove the end record of s-records of bootrom.hex in boot.hex 8. remove the start record of s-records of vxWorks.hex in boot.hex. 9. write boot.hex to flashrom. 10. type the command which i added in bootmenu. - -- Takahiro Yamaguchi --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: how to printf a 64bit long long? Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:02:23 +0100 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: <9g_w6.43$jR4.4456@newsr1.u-net.net> References: <3AC2AF4E.3EC88883@greatlink.net> Corey Ashford wrote in message ... > wrote in message news:3AC2AF4E.3EC88883@greatlink.net... >> Hi, >> >> Does anyone know how to print out a 64 bit integer (long long type) >> using printf? >> thanks. > >try %llx (or %lld depending on which radix you want) Doesn't work, at least on ppc, which is the architecture I'm familiar with. long long support was never fully implemented by WRS. You'll need to write your own longlong to ascii routine. DaveK - -- They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: How can I retreive TCP/UDP statistics Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:46:33 +0200 From: "Achim Zimmer" Organization: Colt Telecom GmbH Message-ID: <9a1rls$7aa$1@crusher.de.colt.net> Does anybody knows how to get values of statistic counters for TCP, UDP and IP from vxworks 5.4 I don't have the SNMP stack from WRS, we have bougt an other commercial one and have to provide the IP layer statistics. Thanks Achim --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: vxworks help Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:38:01 GMT From: "Hoa Van" Organization: Road Runner Message-ID: PLease Help, I am new to vxworks, I want to make a boot image which has the tcp/ip stack in it, Please show me how to make one, I read the manual, as well as doc It seem like not showing how to do it at all. Any pointer would be a gread deal of appreciation. /hoa van --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: WTX EXCHANGE TIMEOUT Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:02:27 -0800 From: Christopher A Leddy Organization: Raytheon Company Message-ID: <3AC4CA33.97454E3D@west.raytheon.com> References: <99ujub$qmv$1@overload.lbl.gov> It can mean a number of things; I'll assume you connected and were able execute some commands on the target before it happened. So here are the most common: 1. Target Crashed (probably from the code you just loaded and executed) 2. One of the vxWorks service tasks (ie debugging, network, serial) crashed 3. Lots of processing in a very high priority task(s) 4. Lots and lots of interrupts 5. Extensive processing in lower priority tasks with task switching and/or interrupts locked Possibilities 3, 4, and 5 may be normal (e.g. it may not be possible to support network debugging and your tasks if you are very heavily loaded) 1 - 5 can be caused by poor or defective code. 1, 2, and 4 can be caused by bad hardware. Hope this helps, Chris vxworks post wrote: > > Hi > > I am using tornado 1.01 BSP coldfire 5307 for my project. Frequently i am getting the following error message > > WTX Error 0x10197 (Exchange Timeout) > Error while pooling for events : > > Can anyone help me locate the cause of the above error message and under which circumstances does it occur. > > Thanks > VxWorker > > _____________________________________________________ > Chat with your friends as soon as they come online. Get Rediff Bol at > http://bol.rediff.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: how to printf a 64bit long long? Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:10:39 -0500 From: "Corey Ashford" Message-ID: References: <3AC2AF4E.3EC88883@greatlink.net> <9g_w6.43$jR4.4456@newsr1.u-net.net> That doesn't surprise me. We found several areas where WRS's C routines weren't up to ANSI standards, particularly with printf formats. Thanks for the info. - - Corey "Dave Korn" wrote in message news:9g_w6.43$jR4.4456@newsr1.u-net.net... > Corey Ashford wrote in message ... > > wrote in message > news:3AC2AF4E.3EC88883@greatlink.net... > >> Hi, > >> > >> Does anyone know how to print out a 64 bit integer (long long type) > >> using printf? > >> thanks. > > > >try %llx (or %lld depending on which radix you want) > > Doesn't work, at least on ppc, which is the architecture I'm familiar > with. long long support was never fully implemented by WRS. You'll need to > write your own longlong to ascii routine. > > DaveK > -- > They laughed at Galileo. They laughed at Copernicus. They laughed at > Columbus. But remember, they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: ftpXfer Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:12:34 -0800 From: Smita Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <9a2m0q$muh$1@overload.lbl.gov> hi, I'm using the VxWorks function ftpXfer() to download a file. I was wondering if there is any way to determine from the return values why exactly the FTP failed. e.g due to invalid file name or wrong directory or connection to server not established, etc. Thanks, Smita --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: DosFs2 1024 byte sector Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:33:49 +0100 From: Alan Dennis Message-ID: Reply-To: news@lakesgc.force9.co.uk I'm in the process of moving a system from 68K/T1.0.1/5.3.1 to PPC/T2.0.2/5.4.2. Previously we used the old DosFS and have a mixture of SCSI disks, some with 1024 byte sectors on. Today I tried DosFs2 for the first time. The 512 byte sector disks worked as normal but the 1024 didn't. I could read the root directory but all sub-directories were garbage. I forget the exact message but chckDisk wasn't happy with it either and wanted to reair it by removing the subdirectories. The disk subsequently worked perfectly in a 5.3.1 system. Has anyone come across this before? Any ideas? Thanks --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: sockets: aborting an accept() call Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:08:49 -0500 From: "Mark" Organization: UUNET Canada News Reader Service Message-ID: References: <3ac399d2@rsl2.rslnet.net> How about simply closing the socket that you pass to 'accept()'? I believe that this should cause the accept() to return. Mark Greg Loucks wrote in message news:3ac399d2@rsl2.rslnet.net... > Is there any way to get a task to abort an accept() call? > > I have a task that calls accept() on my server socket waiting for a client. > But then I want to shutdown the task. Is there any graceful way of doing so? > > taskDeleteForce() will leave the socket resources uncleaned and shutdown() > on the socket from another task just confuses the accept() function and it > bombs. > > Greg. > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Problem with RAM_HIGH_ADRS on MVME167 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:37:05 -0800 From: "Michael Baumann" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <9a2pha$orn$1@overload.lbl.gov> We've run into a glitch running VxWorks on our MVME167 - our text segment has grown a bit large. I tried expanding RAM_HIGH_ADRS to get more space to load the image via the net, but the poor machine just locks up when I try and boot that kernel. I changed RAM_HIGH_ADRS in Makefile and config.h and rebuilt. No complaints from the linker/loader, but the machine seizes just after printing the size of the text segment. What did I miss? Thanks - -- Michael Baumann Optivus Technology Inc.|Loma Linda University Medical Center San Bernardino, California. (909)799-8308 |Internet: baumann@llumc.edu --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: [Q] Subclasses in CrossWind Watch Window Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:55:19 +0100 From: molochai Message-ID: References: <3ac3bf61.95550834@news> In message <3ac3bf61.95550834@news> rjdejoie@kmrmail.kmr.ll.mit.edu (Bob DeJoie) wrote: > I am using T2 for PPC, with cumulative patch 2. > > If I display a variable that is a sub class of a class > hierarchy in the watch window the first data members of all the > subclasses that make up the hierarchy are missing. If > I print the varible in the debug command window everything > is shown correctly. > > I did a search of SPRs on windsurf and didn't find anything that > appeared to relate to this. > Am I missing something? > I suspect that crosswind merely parses the output of GDB and displays it in a more pleasent form. I've seen this problem many times, and if you use the GDB command line interface you'll see that the output of GDB looks a little mal-formed, and this is presumably why crosswinds is getting confused. There's another problem concerning the misnumbering of array elements too which is worth knowing about. If in doubt, use the GDB command line. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Problem with RAM_HIGH_ADRS on MVME167 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:29:11 -0600 From: Francisco Pataro Organization: Verio Message-ID: <3AC508B7.CAD29F90@dnaent.com> References: <9a2pha$orn$1@overload.lbl.gov> Michael, Are you sure that your RAM_HIGH_ADRS is not overlapping the bootloader space?. Francisco. Michael Baumann wrote: > We've run into a glitch running VxWorks on our MVME167 - > our text segment has grown a bit large. I tried > expanding RAM_HIGH_ADRS to get more space to load > the image via the net, but the poor machine just locks > up when I try and boot that kernel. I changed > RAM_HIGH_ADRS in Makefile and config.h and rebuilt. > No complaints from the linker/loader, but the machine > seizes just after printing the size of the text segment. > > What did I miss? > Thanks > -- > Michael Baumann Optivus Technology Inc.|Loma Linda University Medical > Center > San Bernardino, California. (909)799-8308 |Internet: baumann@llumc.edu --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: An interesting question Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:01:41 -0700 From: Dan McShan Organization: Syzygyx Message-ID: <3AC51E65.89534776@syzygyx.com> I have an interesting question that I think I know the answer to, but wanted to see if I missed anything. If I compile up a relocatable object file under another operating system - say Linux on an x86 (natively, not with a cross-compiler), and it doesn't require any particular OS libraries - can I use it (and/or link it with something else) for use on a vxWorks system (or any other x86 OS for that matter). Assuming that the object file format was understood (elf or dwarf), I suspect this should work. Am I wrong? --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Problem with RAM_HIGH_ADRS on MVME167 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:05:17 -0600 From: Andrew Johnson Organization: APS, Argonne National Laboratory Message-ID: <3AC52D4D.31F3E655@aps.anl.gov> References: <9a2pha$orn$1@overload.lbl.gov> Michael Baumann wrote: > > We've run into a glitch running VxWorks on our MVME167 - > our text segment has grown a bit large. I tried > expanding RAM_HIGH_ADRS to get more space to load > the image via the net, but the poor machine just locks > up when I try and boot that kernel. I changed > RAM_HIGH_ADRS in Makefile and config.h and rebuilt. > No complaints from the linker/loader, but the machine > seizes just after printing the size of the text segment. > > What did I miss? Rebuilding the bootrom and blowing a new EPROM from it? RAM_HIGH_ADRS is the RAM location that the bootrom copies itself to on startup. If your application/vxWorks image extends beyond the *bootrom*'s setting of RAM_HIGH_ADRS, the boot code will get overwritten and crash. The Makefile system should report this to you; unfortunately it's the bootrom that you have to change to fix it, not your application/vxWorks image. - - Andrew - -- Every great idea appears crazy to start with. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: An interesting question Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:42:52 -0800 From: "Michael R. Kesti" Organization: MK Associates Message-ID: <3AC5361C.9ADA3E28@gv.net> References: <3AC51E65.89534776@syzygyx.com> Reply-To: mkesti@gv.net Dan McShan wrote: >I have an interesting question that I think I know the answer to, but >wanted to see if I missed anything. If I compile up a relocatable >object file under another operating system - say Linux on an x86 >(natively, not with a cross-compiler), and it doesn't require any >particular OS libraries - can I use it (and/or link it with something >else) for use on a vxWorks system (or any other x86 OS for that >matter). Assuming that the object file format was understood (elf or >dwarf), I suspect this should work. Am I wrong? I believe that it would work, provided, as you say, the systems understand each other's object file format. Not using any OS libs, though, is quite confining, unless you're willing to write all of your own services. - -- ======================================================================== Michael Kesti | "And like, one and one don't make | two, one and one make one." mkesti@gv.net | - The Who, Bargain --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Free flash file system for vxworks? Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:10:55 +0100 From: "cecil" Message-ID: <986026835.29461.0.nnrp-02.d4e4b8d1@news.demon.co.uk> Does anybody know of a freeware flash file system for vxworks or is our only choice TrueFFS? Thanks Nigel --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Win2K-Pro Internet Browsing Problems....HELP!!! Date: 31 Mar 2001 08:33:31 GMT From: javisp@aol.com (Javisp) Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20010331033331.01242.00001575@ng-fr1.aol.com> Here's my problem: I recently installed Win2K-Pro on my laptop with dual boot option (keeping my Win98) Everything went very smooth and I have been using Win2K-Pro with no problems at all. Yesterday though, I logged to the net using the AOL conection account I always use which, before yesterday, I have been using with no problems. I connect fine but when I try to surf by trying to go to any web site it just hangs in there and comes back with some kind of message (timeout message or something like that) The weird thing is that when I try to surf using Netscape or IE, I can't either. On Netscape I just get a "unable to reach web site" (or something like that) and on IE it just comes back with the white screen which points out to click the "refresh" option. Anyway, like I said, I have been able to surf the Net fine ( with AOL on Win2k-Pro) with no problems before. The only thing that I tried to look into was the fact that I have all my PC's (including the laptop) setup on a home network with their corresponding NIC cards and LAN setup (according to Win2K-Pro OS specs) thinking that something I did in the configuration of TCP/IP or other related thing is causing the problem. I check on this and found nothing which, as far as I know, can be changed to resolve my misterious problem. Is interesting to notice that I have the same kind of problem in both my laptop and PC (both with Win2K-Pro in them) but which, once again, worked fine before. Right now, I am using my dual boot laptop on Win98 and have no problems at all meaning that the problem is definetely contained in Win2k-Pro and may have something to do with some kind of internet/LAN configuration I changed or played with. Do I make any sense with all this? Anybody know what I am talking about or had same problem? Thanks in advance for your help. jc PS: I'll be happy to be more specific or provide more details for anybody who may want to help me. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Problem with RAM_HIGH_ADRS on MVME167 Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:59:48 +0200 From: Patrick Deiber Organization: PatDB Message-ID: <3AC5B8A4.3660FD7E@wanadoo.fr> References: <9a2pha$orn$1@overload.lbl.gov> Reply-To: patrick.deiber@wanadoo.fr Michael, Do you use 167Bug as bootrom or VxWoks bootrom ? Do you use Tornado II ? Here are some tips : - - If you use the project facilities to build a VxWorks image, you need to check the value of the macros in the BSP memory component. - - If you download your VxVorks image by using the 167Bug you need to convert your VxWorks image : aoutToBin < vxWorks > vxworks.bin - - If you use VxWorks bootrom to download the VxWorks image, you need to rebuild your bootrom (after changing value of RAM_HIGH_ADRS in config.h) and update the eprom on VME167. HTH, Patrick. Michael Baumann wrote: > We've run into a glitch running VxWorks on our MVME167 - > our text segment has grown a bit large. I tried > expanding RAM_HIGH_ADRS to get more space to load > the image via the net, but the poor machine just locks > up when I try and boot that kernel. I changed > RAM_HIGH_ADRS in Makefile and config.h and rebuilt. > No complaints from the linker/loader, but the machine > seizes just after printing the size of the text segment. > > What did I miss? > Thanks > -- > Michael Baumann Optivus Technology Inc.|Loma Linda University Medical > Center > San Bernardino, California. (909)799-8308 |Internet: baumann@llumc.edu --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Free flash file system for vxworks? Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:00:21 +0100 From: molochai Message-ID: References: <986026835.29461.0.nnrp-02.d4e4b8d1@news.demon.co.uk> In message <986026835.29461.0.nnrp-02.d4e4b8d1@news.demon.co.uk> "cecil" wrote: > Does anybody know of a freeware flash file system for vxworks or is our > only choice TrueFFS? Not as far as I know. There is one being developed for linux (JFFS) which I had a peak at the other day but I don't think it would port terribly easily. My major problem with TFFS is the cost - which is quite considerable, coming in at about a third of the cose for an OEM licence *PER PROJECT* as well as extra run-time costs. Anyone intersted in writing/porting an open-source alternative? --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Win2K-Pro Internet Browsing Problems....HELP!!! Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:09:40 +0100 From: molochai Message-ID: <7871d6634a%molochai@vapour-trail.demon.co.uk> References: <20010331033331.01242.00001575@ng-fr1.aol.com> In message <20010331033331.01242.00001575@ng-fr1.aol.com> javisp@aol.com (Javisp) wrote: [much snippage] STANDARD USENET BONEHEAD REPLY FORM (version 9.5) ---- Written by: John Henry (check all boxes that apply) Dear: [X ] Clueless Newbie [ ] Troller [ ] "Me too"-er [ ] Spammer [ ] Racist [ ] Expert on everything (EOE) [ ] Flamethrower [ ] News Groupie [X ] AOLer You Are Being Flamed Because: [ ] You obviously don't know anything about the topic at hand [ ] You are trying to make money on a non-commercial newsgroup [ ] You posted a picture (binary) of something YOU think is really cool in an unmoderated TEXT ONLY news group [ ] You started a long, stupid thread [ ] You continued spreading a long stupid thread [ ] You started a thread that has been discussed here continuously for the last year and a half [x ] Your post is absurdly off topic for where you posted it [ ] You didn't pay attention to the originating post header and posted a follow-up to crossposted robot-generated spam [ ] You posted a "test" in a discussion group rather than in alt.test [ ] You posted a "YOU ALL SUCK" message [ ] You posted low-IQ flamebait [ ] You posted a blatantly obvious troll [ ] You followed up to a blatantly obvious troll [ ] You said "X rules, Y sucks" and gave no support for your lame statement [ ] You said "me too" to something and added NOTHING to the discussion [ ] You make no sense [ ] You posted the same text multiple times [ ] You made a post yet failed to say anything [ ] You posted a phone-sex ad [ ] You posted a stupid pyramid money making scheme [ ] You claimed a pyramid-scheme/chain letter for money was legal [ ] Your margin settings (or lack of) make your post unreadable [ ] You posted SCREAMING in RANDOM CAPS (OR IN ALL CAPS) for NO APPARENT REASON [ ] You posted a 1 line reply with PAGES of unnecessary quoted text [ ] You didn't do anything specific, but appear to be so generally worthless that you are being flamed anyway To Repent, You Must: [x ] Refrain from posting until you have a vague idea what you're doing [x ] READ every post in this group for two weeks so you can get an idea about what is discussed here [x ] Read every newsgroup you posted to for a week [x ] Give up your AOL account [ ] Give up your WebTV account [ ] Bust up your modem with a hammer and eat it [x ] Jump into a bathtub while holding your monitor (monitor must be plugged in) [ ] Actually post something relevant [ ] Post to alt.test [ ] Print your home phone number and address in your ads [ ] Be the guest of honor in alt.flame for a month [ ] Nothing, we'll let you go this time In Closing, I'd Like to Say: [x ] Get a clue [ ] Get a life [ ] Go away [x ] Grow up [ ] Never post again [ ] You need to seek psychiatric help [ ] Like a neutered dog, you just don't get it [ ] Take your gibberish somewhere else [ ] Go back to school and actually learn something [x ] Learn how to post or get off the Usenet [ ] Don't take offense at this, I just like to use this form [ ] All of the above --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Free flash file system for vxworks? Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:07:49 -0800 From: "Michael R. Kesti" Organization: MK Associates Message-ID: <3AC61CF5.76591EE3@gv.net> References: <986026835.29461.0.nnrp-02.d4e4b8d1@news.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: mkesti@gv.net cecil wrote: >Does anybody know of a freeware flash file system for vxworks or is our only >choice TrueFFS? It's not very difficult to homebrew an FFS with a limited feature set. Start by writing a library for your flash memory. It needs to include functions to erase the entire memory, erase specific sectors of the memory, and to write arbitrary length arrays to specific locations in the memory. Once this is up and working, modify the RAM disk driver supplied with vxWorks to become a flash disk driver by changing the block write function to first erase the sector that is about to be written and then to call the flash memory library's write function rather than bcopy(). Also, rewrite the "format" ioctl to use the library function that erases the entire memory. Install this driver from your application as you would the RAM disk driver, using the flash memory's sector size as the disk's sector size, etc. This FFS provides no wear leveling, writes its FAT to the same sector every time, and makes no attempt to distribute data sector usage. If, however, your system only infrequently needs to write to this disk (Perhaps to store application images or data that doesn't often need to be altered.), this can be acceptable. - -- ======================================================================== Michael Kesti | "And like, one and one don't make | two, one and one make one." mkesti@gv.net | - The Who, Bargain --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Free flash file system for vxworks? Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:57:47 +0100 From: molochai Message-ID: <7149c644a%molochai@vapour-trail.demon.co.uk> References: <986026835.29461.0.nnrp-02.d4e4b8d1@news.demon.co.uk> <3AC61CF5.76591EE3@gv.net> In message <3AC61CF5.76591EE3@gv.net> "Michael R. Kesti" wrote: > cecil wrote: > > > Does anybody know of a freeware flash file system for vxworks or is our > > only choice TrueFFS? > > It's not very difficult to homebrew an FFS with a limited feature set. > Start by writing a library for your flash memory. It needs to include > functions to erase the entire memory, erase specific sectors of the memory, > and to write arbitrary length arrays to specific locations in the memory. > Once this is up and working, modify the RAM disk driver supplied with > vxWorks to become a flash disk driver by changing the block write function > to first erase the sector that is about to be written and then to call the > flash memory library's write function rather than bcopy(). Also, rewrite > the "format" ioctl to use the library function that erases the entire > memory. Install this driver from your application as you would the RAM > disk driver, using the flash memory's sector size as the disk's sector > size, etc. Yes.. I had thought along these lines too, but I unfortuantely do need to write the flash rather more often than this, and need guarentees of its security. The other potential problem is that I'm using either 32MB or 64MB Intel strataflash parts where the erase blocks are 64Kb each. However, this is definately a good starting point. Presumably what you would do next is to build a sector-map table to allow translation between logical sectors (as seem by the filing system) and physical sectors on the flash, the sectors almost certainly being smaller than the underlying erase units. The sector-map table would probably have to be locatable anywhere on the device(s) and some method of identify it at power-up would be required. The difficult bit I suspect, is going to be the heuristics for allocation and garbage collection to allow for wear-levelling, and designing data structures to minimize copying. Anyone got any comments? Anyone spun their own FFS along these lines? --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: ftpXfer Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:01:46 -0800 From: "sunu thomas" Organization: Usenet.com - #1 Newsgroups service on the planet! - http://www.Usenet.com Message-ID: <3ac652fa_7@Usenet.com> References: <9a2m0q$muh$1@overload.lbl.gov> I guess ftpXfer works similar to tftpXfer . tftpXfer opens two stream sockets ,one for data transfer and the other for error retrieval . read the errorFd into a buffer . it should give you the error that occured Smita wrote in message news:9a2m0q$muh$1@overload.lbl.gov... > hi, > I'm using the VxWorks function ftpXfer() to download a file. I was > wondering if there is any way to determine from the return values why > exactly the FTP failed. e.g due to invalid file name or wrong directory or > connection to server not established, etc. > Thanks, > Smita Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services - ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** - ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: IP stack performances Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 00:08:12 +0200 From: "gamma" Organization: Galactica.it News Service Message-ID: Hi everybody, I'trying to get the best performances with VxWorks 5.4 and its IP stack. Does anyone suggest me some trick/tuning issue ? Also alternative to WRS default stack implementation are welcome ! Giulio --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: IP stack performances Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:47:25 +0100 From: molochai Message-ID: <365316644a%molochai@vapour-trail.demon.co.uk> References: In message "gamma" wrote: > Hi everybody, > I'trying to get the best performances with VxWorks 5.4 and its IP stack. > Does anyone suggest me some trick/tuning issue ? > Also alternative to WRS default stack implementation are welcome ! I'd recommend you get hold of a copy of TCP/IP Illustrated Volume 2 (Wright/Stevens) which describes the net/3 stack and in places discusses performance issues, and more importantly, has a great many references to papers on the subject. One of the classic speedups concerns the use of Mbufs: The stack was to some degree written for memory efficiency, and sometimes needs to move data in a way which could be avoided if more memory were thrown at the problem. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: An interesting question Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 02:37:07 +0100 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <3AC51E65.89534776@syzygyx.com> <3AC5361C.9ADA3E28@gv.net> "Michael R. Kesti" wrote in message news:3AC5361C.9ADA3E28@gv.net... > Dan McShan wrote: > > >I have an interesting question that I think I know the answer to, but > >wanted to see if I missed anything. If I compile up a relocatable > >object file under another operating system - say Linux on an x86 > >(natively, not with a cross-compiler), and it doesn't require any > >particular OS libraries - can I use it (and/or link it with something > >else) for use on a vxWorks system (or any other x86 OS for that > >matter). Assuming that the object file format was understood (elf or > >dwarf), I suspect this should work. Am I wrong? > > I believe that it would work, provided, as you say, the systems understand > each other's object file format. Not using any OS libs, though, is quite > confining, unless you're willing to write all of your own services. There's more to it than just using the same object file format. It's also a matter of the abi / calling conventions matching up; the two systems have to agree on matters like where arguments are passed in registers and the stack frame. The actual object file format has nothing to say on this matter, it's determined by how the compiler writes code. For instance, (and I'm really talking outside my fields of expertise here), there's this thing called CDECL which is a calling convention used in the win api that passes the first couple of arguments in registers, whereas under Linux I believe all arguments are passed on the stack. Then the different systems also have to agree about things like the size of ints, longs and shorts, and the alignment and padding of structs. Having said that, I would have thought it would be quite trivial if the function being called was void/void - taking no arguments and returning no parameters. But for anything more complex you'd really have to look into these issues. DaveK --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: An interesting question Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 03:24:34 +0100 From: "Dave Korn" Organization: Lumber Cartel (tinlc) Members #2234-2237 (owing to browser refresh) Message-ID: References: <3AC51E65.89534776@syzygyx.com> <3AC5361C.9ADA3E28@gv.net> "Dave Korn" wrote in message news:LDvx6.9651$MZ2.1487515@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com... > matter, it's determined by how the compiler writes code. For instance, (and > I'm really talking outside my fields of expertise here), there's this thing > called CDECL which is a calling convention used in the win api that passes > the first couple of arguments in registers, whereas under Linux I believe I think I meant 'FASTCALL', not CDECL. OTOH there's an awful lot of PASCAL calling convention in Windows as well. Anyway the general point remains the same. DaveK --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: An interesting question Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:32:41 -0800 From: "Michael R. Kesti" Organization: MK Associates Message-ID: <3AC69349.365D6034@gv.net> References: <3AC51E65.89534776@syzygyx.com> <3AC5361C.9ADA3E28@gv.net> Reply-To: mkesti@gv.net Dave Korn wrote: >"Michael R. Kesti" wrote in message >news:3AC5361C.9ADA3E28@gv.net... >> Dan McShan wrote: >> >> >I have an interesting question that I think I know the answer to, but >> >wanted to see if I missed anything. If I compile up a relocatable >> >object file under another operating system - say Linux on an x86 >> >(natively, not with a cross-compiler), and it doesn't require any >> >particular OS libraries - can I use it (and/or link it with something >> >else) for use on a vxWorks system (or any other x86 OS for that >> >matter). Assuming that the object file format was understood (elf or >> >dwarf), I suspect this should work. Am I wrong? >> >> I believe that it would work, provided, as you say, the systems understand >> each other's object file format. Not using any OS libs, though, is quite >> confining, unless you're willing to write all of your own services. > > There's more to it than just using the same object file format. It's also >a matter of the abi / calling conventions matching up; the two systems have >to agree on matters like where arguments are passed in registers and the >stack frame. The actual object file format has nothing to say on this >matter, it's determined by how the compiler writes code. For instance, (and >I'm really talking outside my fields of expertise here), there's this thing >called CDECL which is a calling convention used in the win api that passes >the first couple of arguments in registers, whereas under Linux I believe >all arguments are passed on the stack. Then the different systems also have >to agree about things like the size of ints, longs and shorts, and the >alignment and padding of structs. > > Having said that, I would have thought it would be quite trivial if the >function being called was void/void - taking no arguments and returning no >parameters. But for anything more complex you'd really have to look into >these issues. Perhaps I'm taking the no-OS-libs limitation farther than you. I took that to mean that the program would execute functions only in its own scope. If this is the case, then parameter passing and stack usage are not an issue, and a common object format allows either system to load the program, perform the final address resolution, and branch to its entry point. You're right about void/void, though. Otherwise parameter passing has to occur. - -- ======================================================================== Michael Kesti | "And like, one and one don't make | two, one and one make one." mkesti@gv.net | - The Who, Bargain --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Semaphores and SEM_Q_PRIORITY Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 17:05:23 +0100 From: Paul Black Organization: A Red Hat Linux Site Message-ID: <3AC751C3.79315C81@canix.co.uk> Using SEM_Q_PRIORITY, do tasks at the same priority get the semaphore on a FIFO basis or is it arbitrary? Paul --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Free flash file system for vxworks? Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:25:55 +0200 From: "Serge Wenger" Organization: Swisscom IP+ (post doesn't reflect views of Swisscom) Message-ID: <9a92gi$pds$1@rex.ip-plus.net> References: <986026835.29461.0.nnrp-02.d4e4b8d1@news.demon.co.uk> You can try to port Intel VFM (vitrtual small block file manager). /Serge "cecil" a écrit dans le message news: 986026835.29461.0.nnrp-02.d4e4b8d1@news.demon.co.uk... > Does anybody know of a freeware flash file system for vxworks or is our only > choice TrueFFS? > Thanks > Nigel > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: sockets: aborting an accept() call Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 22:22:54 -0700 From: "Greg Loucks" Message-ID: <3ac80e83$1@rsl2.rslnet.net> References: <3ac399d2@rsl2.rslnet.net> That works. However, what I was doing was not only closing my socket but setting the handle to invalid. I was using the socket handle to tell me whether or not I had to close later. The select() call doesn't like it when you go changing a handle value on it (and rightly so) from another task. Oops. "Mark" wrote in message news:HK5x6.172514$Z2.2120758@nnrp1.uunet.ca... > How about simply closing the socket that you pass to 'accept()'? > I believe that this should cause the accept() to return. > > Mark > > > Greg Loucks wrote in message > news:3ac399d2@rsl2.rslnet.net... > > Is there any way to get a task to abort an accept() call? > > > > I have a task that calls accept() on my server socket waiting for a > client. > > But then I want to shutdown the task. Is there any graceful way of doing > so? > > > > taskDeleteForce() will leave the socket resources uncleaned and shutdown() > > on the socket from another task just confuses the accept() function and it > > bombs. > > > > Greg. > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Problems with shared memory network: target servers die, PCI devices unrecognized Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 00:36:36 -0700 From: Stefan Schaal Organization: University of Southern California Message-ID: References: <8g0l44$qjs$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <394ECCF2.7A940648@cisco.com> Sender: sschaal@dsl81-sschaal.usc.edu Hi, we recently upgraded from Tornado 1.0 to Tornado 2.02 (with VxMP), using a Solaris 5.8 host with newly and very clean installed Solaris operating system, and Motorola MVME2700 targets. When booting with shared memory network (either as ARP or back-plane network with dedicated subnet), the most bizarre things happen: 1) we can create target servers for each of our processors alone, but if we create more than one, the previous target server dies immediately, somehow losing the connection. 2) on slave CPUs, the PCI mezzanine board is not recognized anymore, despite other PCI devices of the board are recognized (pciDeviceShow does not show our board). Interestingly, when booting from a direct connection (DC devices instead of SM devices) for the slave boards, both these problems go away. All these problems even happen with the original vxWorks kernels provided with the BSP for MVME2700. So far, WRS has not been able to give us any hints what could be the cause for this weird behavior (it happens in Tornado 2.0 and Tornado 2.02, so the update did not help). We would be most grateful for any hint how to track down this problem. Are there any other Solaris 5.8 users who have/have not such problems? Thanks a lot! Best wishes, - -Stefan --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: BSP's for CETIA boards Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 10:21:29 +0200 From: Jaco Kruger Message-ID: <3AC83689.8B413EF6@ashemia.net> Hi all, I am considering buying a (VME) CPU board from CETIA, and would like to know if there are any known issues with it's BSP. How good is CETIA's BSP? Should I use it? The Docs I have for it refer to Tornado 1.0.1 - Will these BSP's work with Tornado II, or even Tornado AE? Thanks, - -- Jaco Krüger Systems Engineer IST Dynamics --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Reading VxWorks-formatted disks on Unix Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 10:31:43 +0200 From: Dirk Weber Organization: T-Online Message-ID: <3AC838EF.A32A240C@ramix.com> References: <3AC32F1E.7B49B1E7@agnes.gsfc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: dirk@ramix.com Gerry, if you simply mount the VxWorks disk under a recent Linux (e.g. SUSE 7.0) the Linux should detect the type of format and mount it without any problems. The issue is whether you have created partitions under VxWorks or not. You have to use a different node under Linux then. I had no problems using a PCMCIA disk under Linux and VxWorks once I figured out the correct Linux device node... Dirk Gerald Heymsfield schrieb: > I have removable disk drives on my VxWorks system and would > like to mount and read the drives on a Unix system. Does any one > have a utility to read these DOSFS VxWorks formatted disks > with Unix or Linux? I was thinking of modifying a utilitly > like mtools to do this unless someone has a better alternative. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Finding the address of the host Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:26:55 +0530 From: "Cash " Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <9a9fvp$ma3$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi all, I'd like to know, how to find/get the IP address & host name of the machine from which my Vxworks application boots up, also how to do the same on the simulator, Any help would be appreciated, regds & thanks, "There has not been any great talent without an element of madness." -Seneca _____________________________________________ Forward your Yahoo mail to your WAP device at www.mail-x-change.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Debuging BSP Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 11:19:07 +0200 From: Emmanuel Herbreteau Organization: SEPRO Robotique (BEP) Message-ID: <3AC8440B.947EAB0D@sepro-robotique.com> References: <9a9e8o$779$1@news.netmar.com> Hi, zhimingzhang@btamail.net.cn wrote: > How can I use GNU compiler to generate symbol table of the assembly? From Tornado 2.0, go to the Build Panel (in your project windows) and edit the properties of your project ("Default"). Add the following command to the linker (LD) line : - -Map c:\temp\mapfile.txt - -- Regards Emmanuel. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: RE: Problem with RAM_HIGH_ADRS on MVME167 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 06:43:58 -0400 From: "David Bryan" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <9a9n0p$pbg$1@overload.lbl.gov> > -----Original Message----- > We've run into a glitch running VxWorks on our MVME167 - > our text segment has grown a bit large. I tried > expanding RAM_HIGH_ADRS to get more space to load > the image via the net, but the poor machine just locks > up when I try and boot that kernel. I changed > RAM_HIGH_ADRS in Makefile and config.h and rebuilt. > No complaints from the linker/loader, but the machine > seizes just after printing the size of the text segment. > > Michael Baumann Michael, I know it's simple, but did you remember to rebuild and reload the bootrom image after changing RAM_HIGH_ADRS? RAM_HIGH_ADRS marks not only the max address from your VxWorks Text and Data sections, it also marks the address at which your bootrom image runs in RAM. If you do not burn a new bootrom image, the VxWorks image you are loading will be copied right over the currently executing bootrom image which is executing at the >OLD< RAM_HIGH_ADRS. HTH Dave - -- ===================================================== T h e P T R G r o u p, I n c. ===================================================== David Bryan Office: (703)726-0498 Manager, Embedded Services dave@ThePTRGroup.com www.ThePTRGroup.com Embedded, Real-Time Solutions ===================================================== --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Booting from flash Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:20:37 +0200 From: "Peter Svensson" Organization: ericsson Message-ID: <9a9puv$9ud$1@newstoo.ericsson.se> Hi, I am pretty new to VxWorks and I need to setup VxWorks for booting without a harddrive. I have thought of putting the bootrom.sys into flash memory and then use the DHCP/BOOTP bootoption to retrieve the location of the VxWorks image. The problem with this solution is that I have no clue how to get this to work, how can I get the bootrom.sys into flash and how do I enable booting therefrom. Or should I perhaps consider a different solution, for example using the PXE protocol? Regards Peter --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Finding the address of the host Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:20:29 GMT From: Lee DeRaud Organization: None to speak of Message-ID: References: <9a9fvp$ma3$1@overload.lbl.gov> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (Boeing NNTP News Access) On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:26:55 +0530, "Cash " wrote: >I'd like to know, how to find/get the IP address & host name of the machine >from which my Vxworks application boots up Get it from the stored image of the bootline, e.g.: void get_boot_host(char *name,char *ip) { BOOT_PARAMS boot; bootStringToStruct(BOOT_LINE_ADRS,&boot); strcpy(ip,boot.had); strcpy(name,boot.hostName); } Lee --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: re: : Incorrect MPC8260 interrupt vector numbers Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 06:47:09 -0700 (PDT) From: richard garrick Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <9aa1i9$1qe$1@overload.lbl.gov> Jeff, I too was baffled by the erroneous vector numbers as our systems work fine using the wrong numbers. EST/VxWorks opted to change the ppc8260Intr.c file in particular m8260IvecToInum() and m8260InumToIvec(). It is cheaper to make the changes in one file but it is a very poor coding practice (typical when you really look at the vxWorks code that is available). Sorry for the late response. I have fallen behind on my email! Rick Garrick >From vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Fri Mar 23 12:33:50 >2001 >From: "Jeffrey A Angielski" >Date: Fri Mar 23 12:33:52 PST 2001 >Subject: Incorrect MPC8260 interrupt vector numbers> > >Does anybody know of any vxWorks patch for the >MPC8260 architecture that has >the correct interrupt vectors numbers? It appears >that the >\drv\intrCtl\m8260IntCtl.c and >\h\drv\intrCtrl\m8260IntrCtl.h contain >erroneous information and do not reflect what is in >errata for the MPC8260 >User Manual. For those of you using this BSP, >interrupt nums [0-26] are >unchanged but nums [27+] are different. > >I already check the WRS website and could not find >any reference to a patch >that would correct this mistake. > >------------------------------------------------------ >Jeff Angielski ===== Rick Garrick __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Booting from flash Date: 2 Apr 2001 14:34:54 GMT From: borkhuis@agere.com (Johan Borkhuis) Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: References: <9a9puv$9ud$1@newstoo.ericsson.se> "Peter Svensson" wrote: >Hi, >I am pretty new to VxWorks and I need to setup VxWorks for booting >without a harddrive. >I have thought of putting the bootrom.sys into flash memory and then use >the DHCP/BOOTP bootoption to retrieve the location of the VxWorks image. >The problem with this solution is that I have no clue how to get this to >work, how can I get the bootrom.sys into flash and how do I enable >booting therefrom. Your idea is correct, that is the way it should work. You should take a look in the file target.nr in your BSP directory or in the page that is installed in the documentation for information about the bootrom. But to get a more detailed answer you should give some more information: architecture, BSP, etc. >Or should I perhaps consider a different solution, for example using the >PXE protocol? No need for that, this is a standard solution for VxWorks. Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Simple NVRAM and SRAM question Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 14:51:02 GMT From: cgan@iders.ca (Christian Gan) Organization: MTS Internet Message-ID: <3ac89007.251427573@200.123.101.100> Hello folks, I have a question for you, Our board currently has a spec for a battery-backed SRAM. Currently, our HW group does not like this and they want to remove it but there are people who believe that VxWorks requries battery-backed SRAM. I know that NVRAM (bb SRAM, eeprom, etc) is supported by vxWorks but it is not required (you can use nullNVRAM.c), is there any other possible reason that vxWorks requires bb SRAM? Or any form of NVRAM in general? I'm fairly sure that this is not true but I need more info just in case. Can someone clear this up for us? Thanks! --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Simple NVRAM and SRAM question Date: 2 Apr 2001 15:04:35 GMT From: borkhuis@agere.com (Johan Borkhuis) Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: References: <3ac89007.251427573@200.123.101.100> cgan@iders.ca (Christian Gan) wrote: >I know that NVRAM (bb SRAM, eeprom, etc) is supported by vxWorks but >it is not required (you can use nullNVRAM.c), is there any other >possible reason that vxWorks requires bb SRAM? Or any form of NVRAM >in general? No it is not required. If you want to save some items (for example your bootline parameters, or IP/MAC address) some kind of NVRAM is needed, but you can also use EEPROM or a flash sector for this. Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: getting CPU load Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 15:10:38 GMT From: daune@iba.be (Jean-François Daune) Organization: KPNQwest customer news service Message-ID: <3ac8959a.28046799@news.belgium.eu.net> Hi all, I would like to know if there is a way to get information about the CPU, as the spyReport from windshell, but from a program. The existing API's all send their output as formatted text to the stdout. I found the 'loadmeter' utility that provides the CPU idle time, but as spyReport provides more information, I wonder how to get them programmatically. Thanks & Regards J-F Daune --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: lkup() and system hangs Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 15:35:48 GMT From: yan_can_cook@hotmail.com Message-ID: This is a multipart message in MIME format. - --=_alternative 0055C21087256A22_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Is anyone familiar with system hangs during a lkup() output? I am currently using lkup() to test if the PPC is ready; it appears as if the system is hanging periodically at this point (this occurs, at most, 1 time in 20). - --=_alternative 0055C21087256A22_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Is anyone familiar with system hangs during a
lkup() output?  I am currently using lkup() to test
if the PPC is ready; it appears as if the system is
hanging periodically at this point (this occurs, at
most, 1 time in 20). - --=_alternative 0055C21087256A22_=-- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: RE: : Incorrect MPC8260 interrupt vector numbers Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:42:31 +0530 From: "viveks" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <009201c0bb98$1ba5d5d0$1605a8c0@future.futsoft.com> Hello, VxWorks Fundoo's I am working with SIMNT. I have a problem with default route the scenario is explained below in detail: I am creating an interface with ether attach as follows: int i4Temp ; unsigned int u4Arp ; char u1Name[] = "eth", u1IP[]="20.3.4.5"; ether_attach ((struct ifnet*)IDR.ac_if, 0,"eth", (FUNCPTR)NULL, (FUNCPTR)NULL, (FUNCPTR)ether_output,(FUNCPTR)NULL) ; IDR.ac_if.if_mtu = 1200; IDR.ac_if.if_start = (FUNCPTR)myRoutine; /* mac address of interface */ i4Temp = 0x45566733 IDR.ac_enaddr[0] = 0x00; IDR.ac_enaddr[1] = 0x00; IDR.ac_enaddr[2] = (i4Temp & 0xff000000) >>24; IDR.ac_enaddr[3] = (i4Temp & 0x00ff0000) >>16; IDR.ac_enaddr[4] = (i4Temp & 0x0000ff00) >>8; IDR.ac_enaddr[5] = i4Temp & 0x000000ff; IDR.ac_if.if_flags |= ((IFF_UP | IFF_RUNNING | IFF_NOTRAILERS |IFF_MULTICAST)); u4Arp = u4IPAddr + 0x01000000; u4IPMask = 0xff000000; /* put interface down for editing */ ifFlagChange (u1Name,IFF_UP,FALSE) ; ifMaskSet (u1Name,htonl(u4IPMask)) ; ifAddrSet (u1Name,u1IP) ; /* creating the default route */ /* as ntsim i am deleting the existing default route */ ifAddrGet("nt0",u1Def); routeDelete("0.0.0.0",u1Def); /* adding new default route */ ifMetricSet(u1Name,1); routeAdd("0.0.0.0","20.3.4.6"); arpAdd ("20.3.4.6", "00:33:44:55:33:44", ATF_PERM); /* change the interface to UP */ ifFlagChange (u1Name, IFF_UP,1); if add an interface it adds beautifully as follows: - -> ifShow nt (unit number 0): Flags: (0xf1) UP POINT-TO-POINT RUNNING Type: ETHERNET_CSMACD Internet address: 90.0.0.1 Destination Internet address: 0.0.0.0 Netmask 0xff000000 Subnetmask 0xff000000 Metric is 0 Maximum Transfer Unit size is 1520 0 packets received; 1 packets sent 0 multicast packets received 0 multicast packets sent 0 input errors; 0 output errors 0 collisions; 0 dropped lo (unit number 0): Flags: (0x8069) UP LOOPBACK RUNNING ARP MULTICAST Type: SOFTWARE_LOOPBACK Internet address: 127.0.0.1 Netmask 0xff000000 Subnetmask 0xff000000 Metric is 0 Maximum Transfer Unit size is 32768 0 packets received; 0 packets sent 0 multicast packets received 0 multicast packets sent 0 input errors; 0 output errors 0 collisions; 0 dropped eth (unit number 0): Flags: (0x8063) UP BROADCAST RUNNING ARP MULTICAST Type: ETHERNET_CSMACD Internet address: 20.3.4.5 Broadcast address: 20.255.255.255 Netmask 0xff000000 Subnetmask 0xff000000 Ethernet address is 00:00:00:00:00:00 Metric is 1 Maximum Transfer Unit size is 1200 0 packets received; 0 packets sent 0 multicast packets received 0 multicast packets sent 0 input errors; 0 output errors 0 collisions; 0 dropped value = 0 = 0x0 - -> routeShow ROUTE NET TABLE destination gateway flags Refcnt Use Interface - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0.0.0.0 20.3.4.6 3 0 0 eth0 20.0.0.0 20.3.4.5 101 0 0 eth0 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ROUTE HOST TABLE destination gateway flags Refcnt Use Interface - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 5 0 0 lo0 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -> arpShow LINK LEVEL ARP TABLE destination gateway flags Refcnt Use Interface - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20.3.4.6 00:00:00:48:fd:b8 c05 1 0 eth0 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- value = 75 = 0x4b = 'K' Now i have written a client server application as follows /* i spawn the server */ void Server() { int fd; int temp; INT4 i4NumBytes; INT4 i4temp; char Buff[25]; /* pRecvBuff*/ struct sockaddr_in addr, naddr; bzero((char*)&addr, sizeof(addr)); addr.sin_family = AF_INET; addr.sin_port = htons(1081); addr.sin_addr.s_addr = INADDR_ANY; if ( ( fd = socket(AF_INET,SOCK_DGRAM,0)) <0) { printf("\nSocket Error\n"); } printf("Socket = %d \n",fd); fflush(stdout); if (bind(fd, (struct sockaddr *)&addr, sizeof(addr))<0) { close(fd); perror("bind"); printErrno(0x31); printf("error is %s \n", strerror(0x31)); printf("Bind Error\n"); } for(i4temp=0;i4temp <100;i4temp++) { temp = sizeof(naddr); printf("Server Receiving ...\n"); if ((i4NumBytes = recvfrom(fd,Buff,25,MSG_DONTROUTE, (struct sockaddr *)&addr, &temp)) == -1) perror("Server Received Error:"); else printf("Server Received(Message :%s) (Size: %d) \n",Buff,i4NumBytes); } close(fd); printf("out of server \n"); } void ClientApp () { int fd; INT4 i4temp,i; char Buff[25]; char buff[4]; struct sockaddr_in addr, naddr; INT4 i4tmp; INT4 i4NumBytes; /* strcpy(buff,argv[1]);*/ addr.sin_family = AF_INET; addr.sin_port = htons(1081); /* give the address such that default route is called */ addr.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr(128.5.6.7); if ((fd = socket(AF_INET,SOCK_DGRAM,0)) <0) { printf("\nSocket Error\n"); } memset(Buff,0,25); sprintf(Buff,"FutureSoft\"s packet OK!"); for(i=0;i<10;i++) { if ((i4NumBytes =sendto(fd,Buff,strlen(Buff), MSG_DONTROUTE, (struct sockaddr *)&addr, sizeof(addr))) == -1) perror("Client To server Failed :"); else printf("Client To Server: Bytes(%d) Message (%s)\n",i4NumBytes,Buff); } close(fd); } - ->sp Server - ->sp ClientApp /* i get as follows */ Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Network unreachable even my ether attached routine "myRoutine" is not called. Do you know this problem please help me out. Thanks in Advance viveks@future.futsoft.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Problem with Default Route Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:44:46 +0530 From: "viveks" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <009301c0bb98$6b7a3c90$1605a8c0@future.futsoft.com> Hello, VxWorks Fundoo's I am working with SIMNT. I have a problem with default route the scenario is explained below in detail: I am creating an interface with ether attach as follows: int i4Temp ; unsigned int u4Arp ; char u1Name[] = "eth", u1IP[]="20.3.4.5"; ether_attach ((struct ifnet*)IDR.ac_if, 0,"eth", (FUNCPTR)NULL, (FUNCPTR)NULL, (FUNCPTR)ether_output,(FUNCPTR)NULL) ; IDR.ac_if.if_mtu = 1200; IDR.ac_if.if_start = (FUNCPTR)myRoutine; /* mac address of interface */ i4Temp = 0x45566733 IDR.ac_enaddr[0] = 0x00; IDR.ac_enaddr[1] = 0x00; IDR.ac_enaddr[2] = (i4Temp & 0xff000000) >>24; IDR.ac_enaddr[3] = (i4Temp & 0x00ff0000) >>16; IDR.ac_enaddr[4] = (i4Temp & 0x0000ff00) >>8; IDR.ac_enaddr[5] = i4Temp & 0x000000ff; IDR.ac_if.if_flags |= ((IFF_UP | IFF_RUNNING | IFF_NOTRAILERS |IFF_MULTICAST)); u4Arp = u4IPAddr + 0x01000000; u4IPMask = 0xff000000; /* put interface down for editing */ ifFlagChange (u1Name,IFF_UP,FALSE) ; ifMaskSet (u1Name,htonl(u4IPMask)) ; ifAddrSet (u1Name,u1IP) ; /* creating the default route */ /* as ntsim i am deleting the existing default route */ ifAddrGet("nt0",u1Def); routeDelete("0.0.0.0",u1Def); /* adding new default route */ ifMetricSet(u1Name,1); routeAdd("0.0.0.0","20.3.4.6"); arpAdd ("20.3.4.6", "00:33:44:55:33:44", ATF_PERM); /* change the interface to UP */ ifFlagChange (u1Name, IFF_UP,1); if add an interface it adds beautifully as follows: - -> ifShow nt (unit number 0): Flags: (0xf1) UP POINT-TO-POINT RUNNING Type: ETHERNET_CSMACD Internet address: 90.0.0.1 Destination Internet address: 0.0.0.0 Netmask 0xff000000 Subnetmask 0xff000000 Metric is 0 Maximum Transfer Unit size is 1520 0 packets received; 1 packets sent 0 multicast packets received 0 multicast packets sent 0 input errors; 0 output errors 0 collisions; 0 dropped lo (unit number 0): Flags: (0x8069) UP LOOPBACK RUNNING ARP MULTICAST Type: SOFTWARE_LOOPBACK Internet address: 127.0.0.1 Netmask 0xff000000 Subnetmask 0xff000000 Metric is 0 Maximum Transfer Unit size is 32768 0 packets received; 0 packets sent 0 multicast packets received 0 multicast packets sent 0 input errors; 0 output errors 0 collisions; 0 dropped eth (unit number 0): Flags: (0x8063) UP BROADCAST RUNNING ARP MULTICAST Type: ETHERNET_CSMACD Internet address: 20.3.4.5 Broadcast address: 20.255.255.255 Netmask 0xff000000 Subnetmask 0xff000000 Ethernet address is 00:00:00:00:00:00 Metric is 1 Maximum Transfer Unit size is 1200 0 packets received; 0 packets sent 0 multicast packets received 0 multicast packets sent 0 input errors; 0 output errors 0 collisions; 0 dropped value = 0 = 0x0 - -> routeShow ROUTE NET TABLE destination gateway flags Refcnt Use Interface - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0.0.0.0 20.3.4.6 3 0 0 eth0 20.0.0.0 20.3.4.5 101 0 0 eth0 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ROUTE HOST TABLE destination gateway flags Refcnt Use Interface - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 5 0 0 lo0 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -> arpShow LINK LEVEL ARP TABLE destination gateway flags Refcnt Use Interface - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20.3.4.6 00:00:00:48:fd:b8 c05 1 0 eth0 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- value = 75 = 0x4b = 'K' Now i have written a client server application as follows /* i spawn the server */ void Server() { int fd; int temp; INT4 i4NumBytes; INT4 i4temp; char Buff[25]; /* pRecvBuff*/ struct sockaddr_in addr, naddr; bzero((char*)&addr, sizeof(addr)); addr.sin_family = AF_INET; addr.sin_port = htons(1081); addr.sin_addr.s_addr = INADDR_ANY; if ( ( fd = socket(AF_INET,SOCK_DGRAM,0)) <0) { printf("\nSocket Error\n"); } printf("Socket = %d \n",fd); fflush(stdout); if (bind(fd, (struct sockaddr *)&addr, sizeof(addr))<0) { close(fd); perror("bind"); printErrno(0x31); printf("error is %s \n", strerror(0x31)); printf("Bind Error\n"); } for(i4temp=0;i4temp <100;i4temp++) { temp = sizeof(naddr); printf("Server Receiving ...\n"); if ((i4NumBytes = recvfrom(fd,Buff,25,MSG_DONTROUTE, (struct sockaddr *)&addr, &temp)) == -1) perror("Server Received Error:"); else printf("Server Received(Message :%s) (Size: %d) \n",Buff,i4NumBytes); } close(fd); printf("out of server \n"); } void ClientApp () { int fd; INT4 i4temp,i; char Buff[25]; char buff[4]; struct sockaddr_in addr, naddr; INT4 i4tmp; INT4 i4NumBytes; /* strcpy(buff,argv[1]);*/ addr.sin_family = AF_INET; addr.sin_port = htons(1081); /* give the address such that default route is called */ addr.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr(128.5.6.7); if ((fd = socket(AF_INET,SOCK_DGRAM,0)) <0) { printf("\nSocket Error\n"); } memset(Buff,0,25); sprintf(Buff,"FutureSoft\"s packet OK!"); for(i=0;i<10;i++) { if ((i4NumBytes =sendto(fd,Buff,strlen(Buff), MSG_DONTROUTE, (struct sockaddr *)&addr, sizeof(addr))) == -1) perror("Client To server Failed :"); else printf("Client To Server: Bytes(%d) Message (%s)\n",i4NumBytes,Buff); } close(fd); } - ->sp Server - ->sp ClientApp /* i get as follows */ Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Client To server Failed :: errno = 0x33 Network unreachable even my ether attached routine "myRoutine" is not called. Do you know this problem please help me out. Thanks in advance viveks@futute.futsoft.com --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Test Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:50:23 GMT From: "Wqzhang" Organization: Sympatico Message-ID: This is just a test --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Identifying Valid vxWorks Image Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:53:10 +0530 From: "Suresh T" Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: Hi All, Can anyone please tell how to identify whether a given binary is a vxWorks Image. Is there any vxWorks header or fileformat included in the image. I am using vxWorks for Strong ARM. Advanced Thanks Suresh --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: MVME162P and MVME172P BSPs Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 14:21:40 -0600 From: Don Small Organization: Sandia National Laboratories Message-ID: <3AC8DF54.E7229B87@sandia.gov> Have you been able to get these boards running? If so, what was necessary? We have two different projects, one using the 162 and the other the 172. I've got plenty of the 162fx processors, but one day I'm sure that I will have to switch to the 162p. The other project is already to the point of switching to the 172p. Both projects are still running Tornado 1.0.1. I called our Wind River sales person who assured me that the new version of the BSP for both of these boards included a version for the 162p and the 172p and that when I ordered that I should make sure that I let them know which version of Tornado I was using. The CD I received has a date of July 1998 on it and nothing that even remotely looks like 162p or 172p compatibility. Motorola claims to have used SDRAM instead of DRAM in their board spin and expects that a new version of the BSP is required. If you have something that works for either Tornado 1 or 2 please let me know the part number on the CD so I can get the correct BSP. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: I can't use nanosleep() in VXSim on PC ?? Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:05:58 +0200 From: "tillon.david" Message-ID: <9aappt$qd9$1@news5.isdnet.net> Reply-To: "tillon.david" I'm a French Novice in VxWork development. Why this error appear when I upload my prog in VxWork simulator VXSim: Errors while downloading C:/projects/Hello/SIMNTgnu/Hello.out: _nanosleep. My source is: file://--------------------------------------------------------- #include #include #include int THdlA; int THdlB; void TaskA(); void TaskB(); int Cnt=0; int main() { THdlA=taskSpawn("TacheA", 90, VX_FP_TASK, 20000,(FUNCPTR) TaskA, 0, 0, 0,0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0); THdlB=taskSpawn("TacheB", 90, VX_FP_TASK, 20000,(FUNCPTR) TaskB, 0, 0, 0,0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0); return(1); } void TaskA() { struct timespec time1; struct timespec time2; int Cnt=0; while(1) time1.tv_sec=0;time1.tv_nsec=5000; nanosleep(&time1,&time2); <------------------------This // taskDelay(1); printf("Hello maurice %d\n",Cnt++); } } void TaskB() { file://struct timespec time1; file://struct timespec time2; int Cnt=0; while(1) // time1.tv_sec=0;time1.tv_nsec=40; // nanosleep(&time1,&time2); taskDelay(2); printf("Salut maurice %d\n",Cnt--); } } file://----------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: PC/104, wireless lan and PCMCIA adapter Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 21:14:26 GMT From: "Ole-Johan Ellingsen" Organization: Tele2 Norway AS Public Access Message-ID: Hi, has anyone successfully used a PCMCIA wireless lan card on a PC/104 CPU board running VxWorks? Ole-Johan Ellingsen --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Booting from flash again Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 21:28:13 GMT From: "Christophe Belmont" Organization: Verio Message-ID: Hi, I'm using the "o=fei" option to boot from the Hard Drive and initialize the network after bootup. I've tried to boot from a compact flash "/ata1/" using the same option but the network doesn't seem to start correctly (just like booting from the HD without the option "o=fei", the command muxShow doesn't show any ARP nor TCP/IP mux). Any idea? Thank you, Christophe. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Availability of a gigabit ethernet driver? Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:28:23 -0400 From: "Serge Blais" Organization: Axxent Corporation Message-ID: <9aaueo$pun$1@newsmaster.axxent.ca> Reply-To: "Serge Blais" I am looking for a supported fiber gigabit ethernet card in VxWorks. I would prefer and Intel PRO/1000F (TL82543GC) or a 3com but any will do really... I know that the current december 2000 driver list does not include this and our local rep does not know of any yet. Please respond on the list as I have not provided my e-mail address Thanks, Serge --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Stack Size Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 00:23:42 GMT From: "Minsup Kim" Organization: Dacom Message-ID: Hello there, When using taskSpawn(), one should assign a stack size as an argument. But I see a different stack size allocated after spawning a task.' I use Tornado's browser to see the stack size, and it is always more than I have allocated. I couldn't find anything about this in manuals. Anyone can explain this? Regards, Minsup Kim - ---------------------------------------------------- Minsup Kim, Associate Research Engineer Advanced Telecomm. Research Lab. LG Electronics Inc. E-mail : v109069@lgic.co.kr - ---------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Identifying Valid vxWorks Image Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 03:09:07 GMT From: "Mark Fanara" Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Message-ID: References: One way to tell if an image is a vxWorks image is to look for the WindRiver copyright. (This does not necessarily mean it is a valid image). The copyright is located in rominit.s - you can also modify this file to include your copyright. Suresh T wrote in message news:NDBBKIIMHKJFAALEFFOGMEBLMOAA.suresht@future.futsoft.com... > Hi All, > > Can anyone please tell how to identify whether a given binary is a vxWorks > Image. Is there any vxWorks header or fileformat included in the image. I am > using vxWorks for Strong ARM. > > Advanced Thanks > Suresh > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Serial I/O query Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 06:44:37 +0100 From: Alan Dennis Message-ID: Reply-To: news@lakesgc.force9.co.uk Hi VxWorkers, When I do a "devs" command from the shell, it reports 6 serial ports in the form "/tyCo/x" where x is 0 to 5, but I can't seem to get any output from any of the ports besides /tyCo/0 which has already been initialised as the console. From PPCBUG I can do a TA 1 and the console I/O now comes through port 1 so I know that the lead/hyperterminal setup is ok and that the port is physically working. But I can't get anything from VxWorks. I've tried - open "/tyCo/1",2,0 (2 is O_RDWR) then two ioctl calls to set the correct baud and OPT_TERMINAL params and then a - write FD,"hello world",11. This sequence works for a new FD on the console tyCo but no other. What am I missing? Has the BSP performed some other initialisation beyond creating the 6 devices? Hope someone can help - it's driving me insane! Thanks Alan. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: DosFs2.0 & Tffs Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 05:49:08 +0000 (UTC) From: pascal.grangier@ascom.ch (Pascal Grangier) Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: <69918EA5E375D11196880000F840FA881309BB@aproz.broadnet.ascom.ch> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0BC02.5736D553 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm working with TFFS and DosFS 2.0. I'm not sure that the features of these both products are 100% compatible. On the TFFS side I've made a tffsDevFormat () and a tffsDevCreate without problems. After that, with DosFs2.0, i've made a dcacheCreate, usrFdiskPartCreate, etc.... until DosFsVolFormat, without problems (see attached file for details). I was really happy until I reboot my board...... and obtain a "tffsDevCreate Failed "! The only way that i've found is to recall tffsDevFormat. After that, the tffsDevCreate works fine. If I make a reboot after these both commands, I can call the tffsDevCreate without problems. Sure, i don't want to format my flash every times i made a reboot......! Does someone have comments or ideas? Pascal <> - ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0BC02.5736D553 Content-Type: text/plain; name="DosFs2_0.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="DosFs2_0.txt" if ((pBootDev = tffsDevCreate (0, 0)) == NULL) { printErr ("tffsDevCreate failed.\n"); return (ERROR); } printf("Nbr of Blocks :%ul\n", pBootDev->bd_nBlocks); printf("Nbr of Bytes per Blocks:%ul\n", pBootDev->bd_bytesPerBlk); if(pBootDev == 0) { printErr ("pBootDev wrong initialize.\n"); return (ERROR); } pCbio0 = dcacheDevCreate(pBootDev,0,0x10000,"FlashBoot"); if ((usrFdiskPartCreate (pCbio0,3,10,60) != 0)) { printErr ("usrFdiskPartCreate failed.\n"); return (ERROR); } pCbio0Part = dpartDevCreate (pCbio0,3,usrFdiskPartRead); dosFsDevCreate ("/CFG", dpartPartGet(pCbio0Part,0),0x100,0); dosFsDevCreate ("/APP", dpartPartGet(pCbio0Part,1),0x100,0); dosFsVolFormat ("/CFG",2,0); dosFsVolFormat ("/APP",2,0); - ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0BC02.5736D553-- - -- Posted from rubicon.hasler.ascom.ch [139.79.129.1] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: tNetTask : undefined error Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:21:26 +0530 From: Kuldeep Singh Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <9abpq9$q20$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi, I am initiating 3 pings of 50,000 bytes size to vxworks. After some time of normal working( 3 min ) I am getting error. On vxworks prompt, task status in vxworks shows me the following. NAME ENTRY TID PRI STATUS PC SP ERRNO DELAY - ---------- ------------ -------- --- ---------- -------- -------- ------- - ----- tNetTask netTask 80f7b520 50 PEND 80891754 80f7b4a0 73000a 0 I tried to check the errorno, but it is undefined error. Any help in giving clues why this error is occuring would be appreciable. Thanks and Regards Kuldeep Singh --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Net components Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:53:09 +0530 From: Kashif Haidery Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <9ac0r9$sov$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi all, I've been trying to download & run a stream socket program on my simulator, but it is showing problems in downloading, on building a custom vxworks.exe file, it is showing that there is an error in project configuration. Also in the projects section, I am unable to include BSD attach interface into the project, I'm totally in the dark, & any help would be appreciated, regds & thanks, "There has not been any great talent without an element of madness." -Seneca --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: running shell script from code Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:34:45 +0530 From: adkumar@hss.hns.com Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <9ac0ra$sp0$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi, I want to execute a shell script consisting of valid vxworks shell commands. I do not want to run it from shell prompt , but from my code. How do I achieve this ? any help will be appreciated. thanks and regards Aditya --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: I can't use nanosleep() in VXSim on PC ?? Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:00:35 +0200 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <986288745.566298@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <9aappt$qd9$1@news5.isdnet.net> The function is obviously not compiled into the VxWorks kernel of VxSim. If you need that, you can compile your own, customized version of VxSim. Create a bootable VxWorks Image and use the simulator project as the base. The configure in all the features you will need, I think nanosleep is part of the 'POSIX timers'. Compile that image, this will result in a new executalbe for the simulator. Be sure to specifiy this executable when launching the simulater (do NOT use default image/kernel). hth werner "tillon.david" wrote in message news:9aappt$qd9$1@news5.isdnet.net... > I'm a French Novice in VxWork development. > Why this error appear when I upload my prog in VxWork simulator VXSim: > > Errors while downloading C:/projects/Hello/SIMNTgnu/Hello.out: > _nanosleep. > > My source is: > file://--------------------------------------------------------- > #include > #include > #include > > > int THdlA; > int THdlB; > void TaskA(); > void TaskB(); > > int Cnt=0; > > int main() > { > THdlA=taskSpawn("TacheA", 90, VX_FP_TASK, 20000,(FUNCPTR) TaskA, 0, 0, 0,0, > 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0); > THdlB=taskSpawn("TacheB", 90, VX_FP_TASK, 20000,(FUNCPTR) TaskB, 0, 0, 0,0, > 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0); > return(1); > } > > void TaskA() > { > struct timespec time1; > struct timespec time2; > int Cnt=0; > while(1) > > > time1.tv_sec=0;time1.tv_nsec=5000; > nanosleep(&time1,&time2); <------------------------This > // taskDelay(1); > printf("Hello maurice %d\n",Cnt++); > } > } > > void TaskB() > { > file://struct timespec time1; > file://struct timespec time2; > int Cnt=0; > while(1) > > > > // time1.tv_sec=0;time1.tv_nsec=40; > // nanosleep(&time1,&time2); > taskDelay(2); > printf("Salut maurice %d\n",Cnt--); > } > } > file://----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Stack Size Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:03:27 +0200 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <986288916.580339@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: What are your exact values for stack size (the ones you specify and the resulting, actual size) May it be that the stack size is just rounded up to the size of an allocation unit? Could it be a hard-coded limit, that cannot be gone below? You should also provide details on what Version and architecture you are using regards werner "Minsup Kim" wrote in message news:iK8y6.258$2b5.7220@news2.bora.net... > Hello there, > > When using taskSpawn(), one should assign a stack size as an argument. > But I see a different stack size allocated after spawning a task.' > I use Tornado's browser to see the stack size, and it is always more than > I have allocated. I couldn't find anything about this in manuals. > > Anyone can explain this? > > Regards, > > Minsup Kim > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Minsup Kim, Associate Research Engineer > Advanced Telecomm. Research Lab. > LG Electronics Inc. > E-mail : v109069@lgic.co.kr > ---------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: tNetTask : undefined error Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:07:09 +0200 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <986289138.914689@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <9abpq9$q20$1@overload.lbl.gov> - -> printErrno 0x73000a 0x73000a = S_netBufLib_NO_POOL_MEMORY hth werner --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Booting from flash again Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:15:58 +0200 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <986289668.726336@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: See the file /target/config/comps/src/net/usrNetBoot.c The list of devices that allow the o=fei notation is hardcoded. You either specified a name that is not part of that list. Or, for some other reason, the function is not invoked at all. Did you enable the corresponding option in VxWorks configuration? Lookup INCLUDE_NETDEV_NAMEGET hth werner "Christophe Belmont" wrote in message news:N96y6.547$4N3.24220@ord-read.news.verio.net... > Hi, > > I'm using the "o=fei" option to boot from the Hard Drive and initialize the > network after bootup. I've tried to boot from a compact flash "/ata1/" using > the same option but the network doesn't seem to start correctly (just like > booting from the HD without the option "o=fei", the command muxShow doesn't > show any ARP nor TCP/IP mux). > > Any idea? > Thank you, > Christophe. > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Net components Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:19:09 +0200 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <986289858.915634@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <9ac0r9$sov$1@overload.lbl.gov> Are you using the simulator packages into Tornado II or did you purchase the full version? IIRC networking is not supported in the included simulator. regards werner "Kashif Haidery" wrote in message news:9ac0r9$sov$1@overload.lbl.gov... > Hi all, > I've been trying to download & run a stream socket program on my simulator, > but it is showing problems in downloading, on building a custom vxworks.exe > file, it is showing that there is an error in project configuration. > Also in the projects section, I am unable to include BSD attach interface > into the project, > I'm totally in the dark, & any help would be appreciated, > regds & thanks, > > > > > "There has not been any great talent without an element of madness." -Seneca > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: I can't use nanosleep() in VXSim on PC ?? Date: 3 Apr 2001 11:05:24 GMT From: borkhuis@agere.com (Johan Borkhuis) Organization: Lucent Technologies Message-ID: References: <9aappt$qd9$1@news5.isdnet.net> "tillon.david" wrote: >I'm a French Novice in VxWork development. >Why this error appear when I upload my prog in VxWork simulator VXSim: > >Errors while downloading C:/projects/Hello/SIMNTgnu/Hello.out: >_nanosleep. Because the function nanosleep is not included in your simulator. You have to rebuild your simulator and include timerLib. You can select the components to be included in your simulator using the project facility. Groeten, Johan - -- o o o o o o o . . . _____________________________ o _____ || Johan Borkhuis | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | borkhuis@agere.com | >(________|__|_[_________]_|__________________________| _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o!o!o o!o!o` === VxWorks FAQ: http://www.xs4all.nl/~borkhuis/vxworks/vxworks.html === --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Stack Size Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 12:00:20 GMT From: "Minsup Kim" Organization: Dacom Message-ID: References: <986288916.580339@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> Oh.. I've found an answer. In some literature, it says that the simulator inflates task stacks beyond the requested size to deal with the overhead of the software interrupt handling mechanism. Though I don't still understand exactly what it means, I have a clue to start. Thanks for your reply. Regards, Minsup Kim "Werner Schiendl" wrote in message news:986288916.580339@newsmaster-04.atnet.at... > What are your exact values for stack size (the ones you specify and the > resulting, actual size) > May it be that the stack size is just rounded up to the size of an > allocation unit? > Could it be a hard-coded limit, that cannot be gone below? > > You should also provide details on what Version and architecture you are > using > > regards > werner > > "Minsup Kim" wrote in message > news:iK8y6.258$2b5.7220@news2.bora.net... > > Hello there, > > > > When using taskSpawn(), one should assign a stack size as an argument. > > But I see a different stack size allocated after spawning a task.' > > I use Tornado's browser to see the stack size, and it is always more than > > I have allocated. I couldn't find anything about this in manuals. > > > > Anyone can explain this? > > > > Regards, > > > > Minsup Kim > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > Minsup Kim, Associate Research Engineer > > Advanced Telecomm. Research Lab. > > LG Electronics Inc. > > E-mail : v109069@lgic.co.kr > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Booting from flash Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:12:43 +0200 From: "Peter Svensson" Organization: ericsson Message-ID: <9achf4$jum$1@newstoo.ericsson.se> References: <9a9puv$9ud$1@newstoo.ericsson.se> The platform I use is Intel x86 and the BSP is Radisys EPC3307 which in turn is built upon the pcPentium BSP that comes with the Tornado environment. I followed the recommendation to look into the target.nr file in the BSP but there was not much information about booting from flash, the only useful information was some lines about mkbootTffs. Would mkbootTffs create a boot device in flash memory? Do I need any additional software to boot from the flash memory or does the Tornado environment contain everything I need? Regards, Peter --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: regression test under NT Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:30:14 +0200 From: "Michael Alers" Organization: Telelogic Germany Message-ID: <9acji4$geg$1@rot.telelogic.de> Hi, I tried to do some regression testing with Tornado 2.0 for WinNT. I have a couple of projects which I want to test with a batch file. First I call make for compiling and linking. Then I start vxWorks.exe, the simulation kernel and tgtsvr.exe, the target server. Moreover I want to start gdbsimnt.exe with following commands in batch mode: target wtx vxsim load .out break run Because the programms consist of multiple threads I do not know how to kill them all after the programm stops at the breakpoint in order to have no threads left for the next project to test. Is there a reboot command in gdb to reset the vxworks simulator or is there another way to manage this ? /Michael --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: chkdsk without dosFs 2.0: how? Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:10:43 +0200 From: "Romano Signorelli" Organization: Centro Servizi Interbusiness Message-ID: <9acktk$8jm$1@fe2.cs.interbusiness.it> Someone knows where to download a chkdsk free routine, without buying dosFs 2.0? Windsurf tells to download it from: ftp.wrs.com under TECH_SUPPORT/louise/chkdsk/ but it seems to be disappeared from there. Thanks in advance, bye Romano Signorelli --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Booting from flash Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:53:27 +0200 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <986309918.172711@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <9a9puv$9ud$1@newstoo.ericsson.se> <9achf4$jum$1@newstoo.ericsson.se> The first thing is to get your board to boot a BOOTROM image that resides in a flash on you target. How this is done, is dependent on your target. Is you flash really just plain flash memory, or do you have some flash drive or such? The default procedure to boot pcXxx targets is with a boot disk (whatever kind of disk, using BIOS support to load the image). When you figured out how to make your board boot from flash and what kind of image you need, the next step is to configure and compile such a bootrom. Then you need to transfer the bootrom to the flash, this may require tools from your board vender. hth werner "Peter Svensson" wrote in message news:9achf4$jum$1@newstoo.ericsson.se... > The platform I use is Intel x86 and the BSP is Radisys EPC3307 which in turn > is built upon the pcPentium BSP > that comes with the Tornado environment. > > I followed the recommendation to look into the target.nr file in the BSP but > there was not much information about booting > from flash, the only useful information was some lines about mkbootTffs. > > Would mkbootTffs create a boot device in flash memory? Do I need any > additional software to boot from the flash memory or > does the Tornado environment contain everything I need? > > Regards, > Peter > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Profibus Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:11:54 -0400 From: "Mike Kordik" Message-ID: Does anyone know of any Profibus hardware/software for VxWorks? Thanks, Mike --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Do not getting interrupts on PentiumPC Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 08:14:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Kumaraswamy Mudide Organization: Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Message-ID: <9acpep$djn$1@overload.lbl.gov> Hi All, We wrote a END driver for ISA based card. We get interrupts and it works fine on 486 based PC. But when we tried on Pentium based PC, the system does not recognize the interrupts. The following IRQ, IO base and BSP used on the 486 and pentium based PCs. For 486 based PC. - -------------------------------------------------- BSP : pc486 IRQ : 10 IO base: 0x300 This works fine. - -------------------------------------------------- For Pentium based PC. - ------------------------------------------------ BSP : pcPentium IRQ : 10 IO Base: 0x300 In this case system does not recognize the interrupts. - ----------------------------------------------------- Plaese let me know if any one know the solution. Do I need to change the pentium BSP. Thanks, Swamy - --- the vxWorks Users Group Exploder wrote: > Submitted-by vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Mon Apr 2 > 11:42:27 2001 > Submitted-by: "Suresh T" > > > Hi All, > > Can anyone please tell how to identify whether a > given binary is a vxWorks > Image. Is there any vxWorks header or fileformat > included in the image. I am > using vxWorks for Strong ARM. > > Advanced Thanks > Suresh > > > > ********** > > This is a user group mailing list for vxWorks > related topics > see http://www-vxw.lbl.gov/vxworks for posting > and subscription info __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Help - DHCP Server Question Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:47:44 -0400 From: "VxWorks" Message-ID: <9acr78$4l909$1@ID-82722.news.dfncis.de> Hi all, Anyone using the vxworks DHCP server? I am having trouble with DHCP server lease entries not being preserved when the unit I am running the server in is rebooted. The dhcp server lease store routine is called on start up and reads the leases that were previously saved. When the first dhcp lease request is received, the server lease store routine is called with a "STOP'", then a "CLEAR" and then a "START" and the wrong addresses are handed out. When these leases are then handed out to the pc's on the network, the VxWorks DHCP server doesn't call the store routine to WRITE the latest lease entries. This does not happen until the lease expires. Rick Webb --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Do not getting interrupts on PentiumPC Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:57:51 +0200 From: "Werner Schiendl" Organization: VBS - Vienna Backbone Service Message-ID: <986313781.673614@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> References: <9acpep$djn$1@overload.lbl.gov> Did you check if you really get the software from the hardware? If interrupt 10 is configured for PCI, you will probably not get the ISA interrupt, no matter what the card is configured for. Further, if the IRQ is configured for level-triggering it will not work either, because ISA works with edge-triggering - did you check this? Did you run both versions of the software on the same hardware? If not, can you try run the pc486 version on the pentium board? hth werner "Kumaraswamy Mudide" wrote in message news:9acpep$djn$1@overload.lbl.gov... > Hi All, > > > We wrote a END driver for ISA based card. We get > interrupts and it works fine on 486 based PC. But when > we tried on Pentium based PC, the system does not > recognize the interrupts. The following IRQ, IO base > and BSP used on the 486 and pentium based PCs. > > > For 486 based PC. > -------------------------------------------------- > BSP : pc486 > IRQ : 10 > IO base: 0x300 > > This works fine. > -------------------------------------------------- > > For Pentium based PC. > ------------------------------------------------ > BSP : pcPentium > IRQ : 10 > IO Base: 0x300 > > In this case system does not recognize the interrupts. > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Plaese let me know if any one know the solution. Do I > need to change the pentium BSP. > > Thanks, > Swamy > > > > --- the vxWorks Users Group Exploder > wrote: > > Submitted-by vxwexplo-errs@csg.lbl.gov Mon Apr 2 > > 11:42:27 2001 > > Submitted-by: "Suresh T" > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > Can anyone please tell how to identify whether a > > given binary is a vxWorks > > Image. Is there any vxWorks header or fileformat > > included in the image. I am > > using vxWorks for Strong ARM. > > > > Advanced Thanks > > Suresh > > > > > > > > ********** > > > > This is a user group mailing list for vxWorks > > related topics > > see http://www-vxw.lbl.gov/vxworks for posting > > and subscription info > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: regression test under NT Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:53:20 +0200 From: "Martin Raabe" Organization: T-Online Message-ID: <9ad699$c1k$01$1@news.t-online.com> References: <9acji4$geg$1@rot.telelogic.de> There is a WindShell command "reboot" hih Martin "Michael Alers" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:9acji4$geg$1@rot.telelogic.de... > Hi, > > I tried to do some regression testing with Tornado 2.0 for WinNT. > > I have a couple of projects which I want to test with a batch file. > > First I call make for compiling and linking. > Then I start vxWorks.exe, the simulation kernel and tgtsvr.exe, the target > server. > > Moreover I want to start gdbsimnt.exe with following commands in batch mode: > target wtx vxsim > load .out > break > run > > Because the programms consist of multiple threads I do not know how to kill > them all after > the programm stops at the breakpoint in order to have no threads left for > the next project to test. > > Is there a reboot command in gdb to reset the vxworks simulator or is > there another way to manage this ? > > /Michael > > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: _inet_addr, where is it? Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 15:41:59 -0400 From: Newbie Organization: UUNET Canada News Reader Service Message-ID: <3ACA2787.292AFB9F@NoSuchAddress.com> Hi, All, I am running Tornado 2.0.2 on my NT to test some samples using socket, and I explicitly linked the sockLib.o (from SIMNTgnuvx) to the project. But when I tried to download the program, I got the folowing unresolved errors: _netErrnoSet _inet_addr Does anyone know where these two functions are defined? I searched everywhere including the .o files to no avail. Hope someone here could help me. TIA Cheers --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: GCC 2.95.3 for VxWorks-WinNT (Tornado 2) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 23:10:37 +0200 From: "Heiko Elger" Organization: T-Online Message-ID: <9ade6e$8cm$00$1@news.t-online.com> - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, has anyone build GCC 2.95.3 for WinNT for cross compiling x[3456]86 ? If yes - how do I have to build gcc? Best regards Heiko Elger - - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOso7yAH9HalQbWsjEQJKEwCfbxacirkMVzO8AthG+9JjEaIs4jgAoM81 GTjmnYq1hmCdRjq8Ywnl/GCX =b1PW - - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOso8SgH9HalQbWsjEQLcYgCfZ6lSrO+zpDuHsBe0NY2k3RLDJ3sAoORZ vvFParoAnPdWfExwqqwzhcL2 =L9A8 - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Build Script Question Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 22:16:38 GMT From: "Aleksandar Petrovic" Organization: NBTel Internet Message-ID: Hi, I assume the following is a trivial question: I am trying to write a tcl script, that will go through all my projects (all 33 of them), and build them one by one. However, I can't find any useful information in the books provided by wind river. I am using Tornado 2.0. I'd like to include such a script in my workspace. Is the above possible? Any guidance on how to accomplish this task would be appreciated. Alex Petrovic --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: DosFs2.0 & Tffs Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 22:21:26 GMT From: andreyk@home.com (Andray Kaganovsky) Organization: @Home Message-ID: References: <69918EA5E375D11196880000F840FA881309BB@aproz.broadnet.ascom.ch> pascal.grangier@ascom.ch (Pascal Grangier) wrote in <69918EA5E375D11196880000F840FA881309BB@aproz.broadnet.ascom.ch>: >------_=_NextPart_000_01C0BC02.5736D553 >I'm working with TFFS and DosFS 2.0. I'm not sure that the features of these >both products are 100% compatible. On the TFFS side I've made a >tffsDevFormat () and a tffsDevCreate without problems. After that, with >DosFs2.0, i've made a dcacheCreate, usrFdiskPartCreate, etc.... until >DosFsVolFormat, without problems (see attached file for details). > >I was really happy until I reboot my board...... and obtain a "tffsDevCreate >Failed "! > >The only way that i've found is to recall tffsDevFormat. After that, the >tffsDevCreate works fine. If I make a reboot after these both commands, I >can call the tffsDevCreate without problems. Sure, i don't want to format my >flash every times i made a reboot......! > >Does someone have comments or ideas? > > >Pascal > > <> > >------_=_NextPart_000_01C0BC02.5736D553 > if ((pBootDev = tffsDevCreate (0, 0)) == NULL) > { > printErr ("tffsDevCreate failed.\n"); > return (ERROR); > } > > printf("Nbr of Blocks :%ul\n", pBootDev->bd_nBlocks); > printf("Nbr of Bytes per Blocks:%ul\n", pBootDev->bd_bytesPerBlk); > > if(pBootDev == 0) > { > printErr ("pBootDev wrong initialize.\n"); > return (ERROR); > } > > pCbio0 = dcacheDevCreate(pBootDev,0,0x10000,"FlashBoot"); > > if ((usrFdiskPartCreate (pCbio0,3,10,60) != 0)) > { > printErr ("usrFdiskPartCreate failed.\n"); > return (ERROR); > } > > pCbio0Part = dpartDevCreate (pCbio0,3,usrFdiskPartRead); > > dosFsDevCreate ("/CFG", dpartPartGet(pCbio0Part,0),0x100,0); > dosFsDevCreate ("/APP", dpartPartGet(pCbio0Part,1),0x100,0); > > dosFsVolFormat ("/CFG",2,0); > dosFsVolFormat ("/APP",2,0); > >------_=_NextPart_000_01C0BC02.5736D553-- [AndrayK]. I believe the problem is caused by the fact that TFFS counts sectors starting from the beginning of the first FAT12/16 partition. In another words, sector #0 in TFFS (as well as in dosFs) refers to the DOS bootsector of the first FAT12/16 partition. This is not the case with dosFs-2, which counts sectors starting from disk's Master Boot Record. So, TFFS and dosFs-2 disagree on where sector #0 should be pointing to. However, if dosFs-2 is backward compatible with dosFs, the call to dosFsDevInit() should still work: DOS_VOL_DESC *pDosVol; if ((pBootDev = tffsDevCreate (0, 0)) == NULL) { printErr ("tffsDevCreate failed.\n"); return (ERROR); } printf("Nbr of Blocks :%ul\n", pBootDev->bd_nBlocks); printf("Nbr of Bytes per Blocks:%ul\n", pBootDev->bd_bytesPerBlk); if ((pDosVol = dosFsDevInit ("/CFG", pBootDev, 0)) == NULL) { /* error */ } However, you will be limited to single partition. Andray --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Stack Size Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:34:05 -0400 From: "Corey Ashford" Message-ID: References: <986288916.580339@newsmaster-04.atnet.at> This probably means that software interrupts are dealt with on the task's stack, rather than on the kernel's interrupt stack. This has the disadvantage that every task stack must be increased to handle the software interrupts that can occur while on it. Since software interrupts can only nest to a level of 1, the extra overhead per task stack should be pretty low. - - Corey "Minsup Kim" wrote in message news:oXiy6.281$2b5.8492@news2.bora.net... > Oh.. I've found an answer. > In some literature, it says that the simulator inflates task stacks beyond > the requested size to deal with the overhead of the software interrupt > handling mechanism. > Though I don't still understand exactly what it means, I have a clue to > start. > > Thanks for your reply. > > Regards, > > Minsup Kim > > > "Werner Schiendl" wrote in message > news:986288916.580339@newsmaster-04.atnet.at... > > What are your exact values for stack size (the ones you specify and the > > resulting, actual size) > > May it be that the stack size is just rounded up to the size of an > > allocation unit? > > Could it be a hard-coded limit, that cannot be gone below? > > > > You should also provide details on what Version and architecture you are > > using > > > > regards > > werner > > > > "Minsup Kim" wrote in message > > news:iK8y6.258$2b5.7220@news2.bora.net... > > > Hello there, > > > > > > When using taskSpawn(), one should assign a stack size as an argument. > > > But I see a different stack size allocated after spawning a task.' > > > I use Tornado's browser to see the stack size, and it is always more > than > > > I have allocated. I couldn't find anything about this in manuals. > > > > > > Anyone can explain this? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Minsup Kim > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > Minsup Kim, Associate Research Engineer > > > Advanced Telecomm. Research Lab. > > > LG Electronics Inc. > > > E-mail : v109069@lgic.co.kr > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: Build Script Question Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 07:54:13 +0200 From: "Martin Raabe" Organization: T-Online Message-ID: <9aecvs$210$07$1@news.t-online.com> References: Hello Aleksander, a wonderful tool for that is SNiFF+ SourcecodeManager. It handles a lot of build support related stuff, like compiling all your projects. Martin Raabe "Aleksandar Petrovic" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:aZry6.85$IJ6.2282@sodalite.nbnet.nb.ca... > Hi, > > I assume the following is a trivial question: > > I am trying to write a tcl script, that will go through all my projects (all > 33 of them), and build them one by one. However, I can't find any useful > information in the books provided by wind river. > I am using Tornado 2.0. I'd like to include such a script in my workspace. > > Is the above possible? > > Any guidance on how to accomplish this task would be appreciated. > > Alex Petrovic > > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Attaching debugger to a spawning task... Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 06:02:08 GMT From: "Minsup Kim" Organization: Dacom Message-ID: Hi, I'm using a simulator. I want to debug a task which is spawned in main function, like this: mainTask() { .... /* codes here */ taskSpawn("subTask",...); .... } If I use 'Run' in debugger, subTask is not debugged because the debugger is already attached to mainTask(). So I tried to attach a debugger to subTask() immediately after it is spawned, but already some codes are executed when the task breaks. What I want to know is how to attach a debugger to a newly spawning task. System level debugging looks helpful, but it says it doesn't work in a simulator (right?) Regards, - ---------------------------------------------------- Minsup Kim, Associate Research Engineer Advanced Telecomm. Research Lab. LG Electronics Inc. 533, Hogye-dong, Dongan-gu, Anyang-si, Gyeonggi-do, 431-080, Rep. of Korea Phone : +82-31-450-7866, Fax: +82-31-450-2944 E-mail : v109069@lge.co.kr - ---------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Error Loading Boot File Date: 4 Apr 2001 02:06:15 GMT From: natu@cachevision.com Organization: NewsOne.Net - Free Usenet News via the Web - http://newsone.net/ Message-ID: <9advin$c79$1@news.netmar.com> Followup-To: comp.os.vxworks Hi, I am trying to boot from VxWorks Image from the server. When my target is getting booted up I get the following message. Attached TCP/IP interface to etc0. Attaching network interface lo0... done. Loading... Error loading file: errno = 0xd0003. D Could anyone decode something from the error number. I am quiet new to Vxworks. Thanks in advance. - -Natarajan ----- Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the Web ----- http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam. If this or other posts made through NewsOne.Net violate posting guidelines, email abuse@newsone.net --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: GCC 2.95.3 for VxWorks-WinNT (Tornado 2) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:09:47 +0200 From: "Geurt Vos" Organization: Rohill Technologies BV Message-ID: References: <9ade6e$8cm$00$1@news.t-online.com> Sender: rohill2@rohill.nl It seems that WRS is working on a new GCC port, which should have been released Q1 2001, but as usual, it got postponed.... The version I'm not entirely certain about. That is, I think they called it 2.96, but have no clue what that is supposed to be (ie. officially there is no 2.96 release). Geurt > Hello, > > has anyone build GCC 2.95.3 for WinNT for cross compiling x[3456]86 ? > If yes - how do I have to build gcc? > > Best regards > Heiko Elger > --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Need some helpful advice about how to write Wireless LAN Driver Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 16:47:01 +0900 From: Cho Sunghun Organization: System Engineering Research Institute (SERI) Message-ID: <3ACAD175.1050204@chollian.net> My name is Cho Sunghun. I want to write Wireless LAN Driver under vxWorks. is there anybody have tried it? I need some advice. I will start with Linux Wireless LAN HOWTO. Is there some good material that is good for write driver ? I will use Orinoco Wi/Fi 11Mbps Silver PCMCIA Card and its access point. --------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks Subject: Re: regression test under NT Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:42:28 +0200 From: "Michael Alers" Organization: Telelogic Germany Message-ID: <9aen2s$hjg$1@rot.telelogic.de> References: <9acji4$geg$1@rot.telelogic.de> <9ad699$c1k$01$1@news.t-online.com> problem is if I use windsh.exe with a script like this windsh.exe -s