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RECENTLY TAKEN STEPS TO RAISE THE AVERAGE FUEL ECONOMY OF THEIR
VEHICLES. IN EUROPE, AUTO MAKERS ARE COMMITTED TO INCREASING
FUEL ECONOMY BY 33% BY THE YEAR 2008. AND IN JAPAN FUEL ECONOMY
LEVELS ARE SET TO INCREASE 23% BY 2010. I DO BELIEVE FUEL
EFFICIENCY IS AN ISSUE OF INTERNATIONAL ECONOMIC
COMPETITIVENESS. WE MUST AGGRESSIVELY PURSUE EFFORTS LIKE PNGV
OR RISK FALLING BEHIND IN THE GLOBAL AUTOMOTIVE MARKET. IN
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CLOSING, I'M PLEASED THAT THE SENATE BILL PROVIDES ADEQUATE
FUNDING FOR PNGV. I AM CONCERNED, HOWEVER, THAT THIS YEAR --
THAT MAINTAINING THE SENATE'S FUNDING LEVEL FOR PNGV IN
CONFERENCE AND WHAT I BELIEVE WAS A VERY WRONGHEADED ACTION,
THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ALL BUT ELIMINATED FUNDING FOR
THIS VITAL PROGRAM. MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO
REDUCE OUR COMMITMENT TO CUTTING-EDGE RESEARCH THAT OFFERS THE
PROMISE OF DRAMATIC REDUCTIONS IN OUR NEED FOR OIL. I HOPE ALL
SENATORS WILL WANT TO WORK WITH THE COMMITTEE TO MAINTAIN THE
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SENATE'S FUNDING LEVEL FOR PNGV AS THE BILL MOVES TO
CONFERENCE. MR. PRESIDENT, I'D ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT A
LETTER FROM SECRETARY RICHARDSON OPPOSING THE HOUSE'S ACTIONS
BE INCLUDED IN THE RECORD AT THE CONCLUSION OF MY REMARKS.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.
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MR. BINGAMAN: MR. PRESIDENT, PNGV REPRESENTS THE BEST OF
AMERICA'S MINDS WORKING TOGETHER ON ONE OF OUR MOST IMPORTANT
ISSUES. I WANT TO THANK CHAIRMAN GORTON AND SENATOR BYRD FOR
THEIR WORK ON THE BILL, AND ESPECIALLY FOR THE FUNDING THAT
THEY PROVIDED FOR ENERGY CONSERVATION AND PNGV. MR. PRESIDENT,
I WOULD JUST ASK IF I COULD TAKE TWO ADDITIONAL MINUTES TO
SPEAK BRIEFLY IN SUPPORT OF THE NOMINATION OF MADELEINE
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CREEDON, WHO IS COMING UP AT
3:30. I WOULD ASK THAT MY COMMENTS ABOUT MADELYN'S CREEDON'S
NOMINATION BE INCLUDED IN THE RECORD DURING THE PORTION OF THE
DEBATE RELATED TO THAT.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTN.
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MR. BINGAMAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I DO WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF
MADELYN CREEDON. SHE'S BEEN NOMINATED BY THE PRESIDENT TO
BECOME THE DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEFENSE PROGRAMS IN THE NEW
NATIONAL NUCLEAR SECURITY ADMINISTRATION, NNSA, AT THE
DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY. MS. CREEDON HAS A DISTINGUISHED CAREER
ABROAD AND DEEP EXPERIENCE REGARDING THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY
DEFENSE PROGRAMS OVER WHICH SHE WILL HAVE OVERSIGHT AND
MANAGEMENT RESPONSIBILITIES IN THIS NEW POSITION AS SECOND IN
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COMMAND AT NNSA. MY COLLEAGUES NEED TO BE AWARE THAT BEFORE SHE
JOINED THE STAFF OF THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE IN 1990, SHE
WORKED FOR TEN YEARS WITH THE OFFICE OF GENERAL COUNSEL AT THE
DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY. SHE RETURNED TO THE DOMT DOMT AFTER
SERVING AS COUNSEL TO THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE DURING 1990
THROUGH 1994, DURING WHICH TIME SHE HAD OVERSIGHT AND REVIEW
RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY'S NATIONAL
SKUREPETE AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS. -- NATIONAL SECURITY AND
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ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS. SHE SERVED AS ASSOCIATE SECRETARY AND
THEN RESUMED HER WORK ON THE STAFF OF THE SENATE ARMED SERVICES
COMMITTEE. ONCE AGAIN, HAVING RESPONSIBILITY FOR D.O.E. DEFENSE
AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS. IN SHORT, MR. PRESIDENT, MADELYN'S
CREEDON'S PROFESSIONAL CREDENTIALS FOR THIS POSITION ARE
IMPECCABLE. LET ME ADD THAT I HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH HER FOR
SEVERAL YEARS IN MY CAPACITY IN THE PREVIOUS CONGRESS AS
RANKING MEMBER OF THE STRATEGIC AND EMERGING THREAT
SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE. SHE IS FULLY
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KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED. SHE IS A
PERSON OF SOUND JUDGMENT REGARDING POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS IN THE
INTEREST OF IMPROVING OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. HER PROFESSIONAL
CAPABILITIES AND COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SERVICE ARE PLAIN TO SEE
FOR ALL OF US ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE WHO HAVE WORKED WITH
HER. AND I STRONGLY URGE MILE COLLEAGUES TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF
MADELYN'S CREEDON'S NOMINATION TO ASSUME THIS POSITION AS
DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR NNSA. HER EXPERIENCE AND KNOW-HOW WILL
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BE KEY TO ENSURING A SMOOTH TRANSITION TO A SUCCESSFUL NNSA.
MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD YIELD THE FLOOR.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON.
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MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, I SHOULD LIKE TO COMPLIMENT THE
SENATOR FROM NEW MEXICO ON HIS PRESENTATION AND ASK IF HE'LL
PUT THE FIRST OF HIS TWO DISPLAYS BACK UP, IF HE WILL. MR.
PRESIDENT, I APPRECIATE THE KIND WORDS FROM THE SENATOR FROM
NEW MEXICO ON THIS GENERAL FIELD. MY OWN VIEW IS THAT WE DO
NEED TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO PRODUCE MORE PETROLEUM PRODUCTS FROM
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SOURCES THAT ARE WITHIN THE CONTROL OF THE UNITED STATES. I AM
CONVINCED THAT WE ALSO, IN MEETING WITH THIS CHALLENGE, NEED
AGGRESSIVELY TO MOVE TOWARD THE DEVELOPMENT AND INCREASED USE
OF ALTERNATIVE FUELS, OF OTHER FUELS FOR OUR AUTOMOBILES. BUT
EVEN IF WE ARE RELATIVELY SUCCESSFUL IN BOTH OF THOSE COURSES
OF ACTION, THE CHALLENGE OF AN INCREASED DEPENDENCE AND AN
INCREASED USE IN TRANSPORTATION OF FOSSIL FUELS OR EVEN
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ALTERNATIVE FUELS IS SIMPLY GOING TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE. AND
SO THE SENATOR FROM NEW MEXICO, IN STRESSING THE IMPORTANCE OF
A FAR GREATER DEGREE OF EFFICIENCY IN THE USE OF ENERGY FOR
TRANSPORTATION PURPOSE IS, I THINK, DIRECTLY ON POINT. AND AS
HE KNOWS AND AS HE SAID, THIS APPROPRIATIONS BILL INCLUDES A
MODEST INCREASE IN ITS APPROPRIATION FOR THE PARTNERSHIP FOR A
NEW GENERATION OF VEHICLES, A PROGRAM THAT I'VE SUPPORTED EVER
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SINCE I TOOK THE CHAIRMANSHIP OF THIS SUBCOMMITTEE. I THINK IT
IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE. I THINK IT'S A
CONSTRUCTIVE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN GOVERNMENT AND THE PRIVATE
SECTOR. AND I'M DELIGHTED THAT A MEMBER WOULD COME DOWN TO
SPEAK ON THIS SPECIFIC ELEMENT OF THE BILL THAT I HAD TO PASS
OVER RATHER QUICKLY. BECAUSE THE TOP LINE ON HIS DISPLAY THERE
INDICATES THE NATURE OF THE PROBLEM. THE SENATOR FROM NEW
MEXICO ALSO MENTIONED MY EFFORT ON A DIFFERENT APPROPRIATIONS
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BILL ONCE AGAIN TO GO BACK TO MANDATED BETTER FUEL EFFICIENCY
STANDARDS ON THE PART OF AUTOMOBILES AND SMALL TRUCKS. THAT'S A
VERY, AT LEAST A FIRST COUSIN, IF NOT CLOSER, TO THE
PROPOSITION THAT THE SENATOR FROM NEW MEXICO IS SPEAKING TO
HERE. BUT IF WE'RE TO BE SUCCESSFUL, IF WE'RE TO TURN THAT
RAPIDLY RISING LINE IN HIS CHART AND EVEN FLATTEN IT OUT, IT
SEEMS TO ME THAT WE HAVE TO ENGAGE IN ALL OF THESE AND THE
SUBJECT ABOUT WHICH HE SPOKE IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT. AND I
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CAN ASSURE THE SENATOR FROM NEW MEXICO THAT IN A CONFERENCE
COMMITTEE WITH THE HOUSE ON THIS SUBJECT, I'M GOING TO HOLD OUT
AS ELOQUENTLY AS I POSSIBLY CAN FOR THE FULL SENATE
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APPROPRIATION FOR PNGV. MR. BINGAMAN: MR. PRESIDENT?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM NEW MEXICO.
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MR. BINGAMAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I'D JUST LIKE TO RESPOND, THANKING
THE SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON FOR HIS COMMENTS AND INDICATE THAT
I THINK HIS LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT,
AND PARTICULARLY SO GIVEN THE WRONGHEADED ACTION THAT THE HOUSE
OF REPRESENTATIVES HAS TAKEN IN THEIR BILL OF ESSENTIALLY SDEE
ROGUE OUT THE FUNDING FOR THIS VERY IMPORTANT -- ZEROING OUT
THE FUNDING FOR THIS VERY IMPORTANT PROGRAM AFTER SIX
SUCCESSFUL YEARS OF PROGRESS IN A TEN-YEAR PROGRAM. I AM
ENCOURAGED BY THE SENATOR'S STATEMENTS. I WILL CERTAINLY DO
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ANYTHING I CAN TO ASSIST HIM IN SEEING TO IT THAT THIS IS
ADEQUATELY FUNDED IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I YIELD
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THE FLOOR. 679-- -- MR. THOMAS: MR. PRESIDENT?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM WYOMING.
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MR. THOMAS: MR. PRESIDENT, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO
COMMENT ON THE BILL AND COMMENT ON SOME AREAS OF PARTICULAR
CONCERN, IF I MAY. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE AND
THANK THE CHAIRMAN AND SENATOR BYRD FOR THEIR GOOD WORK. THIS
IS A TOUGH JOB. IT'S A TOUGH JOB ON ANY APPROPRIATIONS BILL TO
HOLD DOWN SPENDING, TO KEEP IT WITHIN THE BUDGET. AND YET IT'S
VERY DIFFICULT THEN TO SET THE PRIORITIES. THIS IS ONE OF THE
HARDEST JOBS WITHIN THE CONGRESS, AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK
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THEY'VE DONE. IT'S DIFFICULT, I THINK, PARTICULARLY IN THIS
BILL ON INTERIOR WHERE A -- IT'S VERY HARD TO PUT TOGETHER A
BILL THAT GETS SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CONGRESS,
REPRESENTING ALL OF THE STATES IN THE COUNTRY, WHEN A LARGE
PART OF THE ACTIVITY GOES ON, OF COURSE, IN THE PUBLIC LAND
STATES. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON A FEW OF THOSE AREAS
THAT ARE OF PARTICULAR CONCERN TO THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN THE
WEST WHERE MUCH OF OUR STATE IS OWNED BY THE FEDERAL
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GOVERNMENT. RANGES FROM 25% TO NEARLY 90% OF SOME STATES THAT
BELONG TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO OUR ECONOMY, OUR FUTURE,
ALL THOSE THINGS ARE TIED VERY CLOSELY TO WHAT HAPPENS AT THE
MANAGEMENT OF FEDERAL LANDS, AND MUCH OF THAT, OF COURSE, IS
WITHIN THIS BUDGET OF INTERIOR. I'M PARTICULARLY PLEASED. I
HAPPEN TO BE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL PARKS
AND OF COURSE THE FUNDING FOR NATIONAL PARKS IS IN THIS BUDGET
AS WELL. CERTAINLY WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE AS MUCH POSSIBLE
SUPPORT AS WE COULD HAVE FOR PARKS, BUT THERE IS AN INCREASE
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HERE, AS THERE HAS BEEN OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. THERE IS
SOME 379 PARKS IN THIS COUNTRY, NATIONAL PARKS, ALL OF WHICH
ARE QUITE DIFFERENT, ANYWHERE FROM YELLOWSTONE TO THE STATUE OF
LIBERTY AND PARKS THAT ARE VERY MUCH UNIQUE. THE IDEA, I THINK,
OF COURSE IS TO HAVE THE BASIC PUP SUP -- SUPPORT FOR PARKS
COMES FROM APPROPRIATIONS. WE HAVE DEVELOPED SOME ALTERNATIVE
SUPPORT, SUPPLEMENTAL SOURCES OF FUNDING THAT ARE NOT MEANT TO
REPLACE, OF COURSE, BUT SIMPLY TO SUPPLEMENT. SUCH THINGS AS
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DEMONSTRATION FEES WHICH ARE THEN USED IN THE PARK IN WHICH
THEY'RE COLLECTED. HIGHWAY FUNDS WHICH COME FROM THE HIGHWAY
AND GO TO THE PARKS. I'M THINKING PARTICULARLY IN THIS CASE OF
YELLOWSTONE PARK, FOR HIGHWAYS ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF IT AND
MUCH OF IT GOES THERE. WE ENCOURAGE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT CAN BE
MADE FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THERE ARE SEVERAL AREAS OF
CONCERN, OF COURSE. ONE OF THEM IS THE PILT PAYMENTS, THE
PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES. THIS IS A PAYMENT DESIGNED TO -- IN A
COUNTY WHERE MUCH OF THE LAND IS OWNED BY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, WHERE THEY WOULD NORMALLY HAVE -- THEY WOULD
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NORMALLY HAVE REAL ESTATE TAXES THAT WOULD COME IN FOR THE
OPERATION OF THE COUNTY. OF COURSE WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
OWNS THE LAND, THOSE TAXES ARE NOT COLLECTED. AND, THEREFORE,
THIS IS A REPLACEMENT, ONE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR A VERY LONG
TIME. AND QUITE IMPORTANT. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IN MOST
CASES THE COUNTIES PROVIDE THE KIND OF SERVICES ON THE PUBLIC
LANDS THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE ON THE PRIVATE LANDS, EVEN THOUGH
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BY ITS NATURE DOES NOT PAY THE TAXES. SO
THESE ARE PAYMENTS THAT ARE MADE IN LIEU OF. THERE ARE SOME
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INCREASES IN THIS BUDGET OVER LAST YEAR, BUT NOT NEARLY EQUAL
TO THE TAXES THAT WOULD BE COLLECTED IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
DID NOT OWN THE LAND. SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT'S SOME
MEASUREMENT OF FAIRNESS, THEN WE STILL ARE QUITE BELOW WHERE WE
OUGHT TO BE IN TERMS OF PILT PAYMENTS. WE RAISE THE
AUTHORIZATION A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, AND NOW IT'S TIED TO SOME
KIND OF GROWTH IN THE ECONOMY, AND WE ARE, OF COURSE, QUITE
BELOW WHAT THE AUTHORIZED LEVEL WOULD BE. WE HAVE SOME
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INCREASES IN THE BILL, IN THE HOUSE BILL, THE SENATE BILL. WE
WOULD LIKE SO SEE SOME CONSIDERATION GIVEN. AS YOU KNOW,
PAROCHIALLY, LARGE AMOUNTS OF LAND IN WYOMING BELONG TO THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AS IS TRUE IN THE WEST; CREATES SOME REAL
RESPONSIBILITIES. JUST THIS WEEK I MET WITH THE COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS IN BIGHORN COUNTY, WYOMING, AND THEIR PRIMARY
CONCERN IS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH PILT PAYMENTS?
BECAUSE MUCH OF THEIR COUNTY, AS A MATTER OF FACT, IS FEDERAL
LAND. WE HAVE A UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, AND GOVERNMENT DEPENDS ON LOCAL COMMUNITIES TO
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PROVIDE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE. SO WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF THEETS
COUNTIES, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD BE UNABLE TO MANAGE
THEIRS. I'M TALKING ABOUT HIGHWAYS, I'M TALKING ABOUT POLICE
PROTECTION. I'M TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE, EMERGENCY CARE. ALL
THESE THINGS ARE PROVIDED WITHOUT THE BASIS OF SUPPORT THAT IS
USUALLY THERE. SO THAT'S WHAT PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAX PROGRAM IS
ALL ABOUT. I KNOW IT'S VERY DIFFICULT, BUT I THINK IT'S ONE
THAT MERITS SOME CONSIDERATION AND PERHAPS THE OPPORTUNITY TO
INCREASE THOSE PAYMENTS SOMEWHAT. ACTUALLY IT'S NOT CONFINED TO
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WESTERN STATES. ABOUT 49 DIFFERENT STATES PARTICIPATE IN THE
PILT PROGRAM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING THE DISTRICT OF
COLUMBIA AND THREE TERRITORIES. AND SO, OF COURSE, IT IS
WIDESPREAD IN TERMS OF ITS SUPPORT. EARLIER THIS YEAR WE HAD 57
SENATORS JOIN IN A LETTER SUPPORTING AN INCREASE IN PILT
FUNDING. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT A LITTLE LATER FOR
CONSIDERATION SOME OPPORTUNITY PERHAPS TO GIVE A LITTLE BOOST
TO THAT KIND OF FUNDING. I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS A
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REAL MEANINGFUL -- LET ME GIVE YOU JUST A LITTLE EXAMPLE OF A
FEW COUNTIES. WE HAVE 23 COUNTIES IN MY STATE OF WYOMING. TETON
COUNTY IS 96% FEDERALLY OWNED. PARK COUNTY 82% FEDERALLY OWNED.
AND ON DOWN THE LINE. BIGHORN, WHICH I MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO,
80% OF THAT COUNTY BELONGS TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. IT GOES
ON DOWN. SO I THINK THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF INTEREST IN THAT,
IN THAT QUESTION OF FAIRNESS. LET ME SAY TOO THAT EVEN THOUGH
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THE APPROPRIATIONS, OF COURSE, ARE NOT ACTUALLY THE AREA WHERE
THESE KINDS OF DECISIONS ARE OFTEN MADE, I THINK IT IS
IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS MADE A
DRIVE TOWARDS THE END HERE TO -- AND I UNDERSTAND THE
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