Demo comments

Demo abstract deadline is (was) May 3?! - We should have one or more ATLAS-specific demos as a top priority. - Data management and replication using Magda - Job submission using Grappa - Distributed job management using Pavel+MOP+... - Distributed grid-enabled hybrid event store - Distributed analysis? - pacman, packaging/distribution? - We should also have a joint CMS-ATLAS demo. - Baseline demo based on existing tools - Demonstrate interoperability - A real app from each experiment running seamlessly on the other experiment's testbed - Either testbed can accept jobs from either experiment using site-specific policies - Visual interface showing in a pleasing way the jobs running on the testbeds Schedule for joint demo: May - demonstrate CMS simulation working on ATLAS testbed and vice versa June - develop policy scheme and implementation plan July - meeting to evaluate progress and finalize demo August - first version of visual demo tools - initial infrastructure to run apps across domains (ivdgl-1) See http://www.ivdgl.org/ivdgl-labs.html September - first real ATLAS-CMS joint running October - polish final demo - interoperability with Europe DataTAG, EDG (ivgdl-2)

2001 demos

http://sc2001.fnal.gov/10.htm http://people.cs.uchicago.edu/~voeckler/VDL/sc2001-demo.html

2001 demo notes

SC01 floor (must be downloaded to be viewed properly in my experience) From: Rob Gardner To: Kaushik Default UTA , Torre Wenaus , "Jennifer M. Schopf" , Rich Baker , Bruce Gibbard , John Huth Subject: [Fwd: SC02 research exhibit] Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 09:28:04 -0500 We discussed some SC demo logistics yesterday - Randy Bramley (CS prof here) wrote down some notes which might be helpful. Rob -------- Original Message -------- From: Randall Bramley Subject: SC02 research exhibit To: rwg@indiana.edu CC: Shava Smallen Attached is a preliminary view of last year's SC01 exhibit floor. Note the vendors get the big splashy sites near the entrance; they pay far, far more for their booths than research exhibits do. If all you are planning on doing is a Griphyn/ivdgl sort of demonstration and exhibit, consider just participating with the IU booth at SC02. It will give you a chance to see what is involved, and use the support that UITS provides. However, if this is to be a major BNL thing, first contact people there who have done this before. SLAC, LBL, ANL, PNNL all have exhibits there every year, some of their people must have leaked over to BNL over the years. However, if you insist on doing an exhibit booth, here's all my advice: ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1) Decide early what size of booth you want to tackle. Beware that a large booth is expensive. Sizes range from 10x10 up to 40x40 feet. 2) Assume nothing is provided, and you will be correct. In particular, you must provide or buy/rent from the conference a) carpeting if you want it b) chairs, tables, table curtains, signs c) network and electrical connections d) lighting, or scrims to reduce lighting. e) telephone, and telephone lines 3) The networking is typically not running reliably until the evening of the gala opening, and sometimes not then. Buy a month from some local ISP so you can at least dial up to a network for the inbetween times. 4) The wireless networking worked well the past year, but this varies. Do not let anyone run an ad hoc network in your booth, it can earn you the death sentence (justifiably so) from the SCINET people. 4.5) The SCINET people essentially put together in a few days a major multi-gigabit network and handle a few hundred demanding high-end users. They do work that would be worth a year's pay at any company, and get zip for it. Be nice to them, even if the network is crapping out. When there is a major outage or problem, then they know it - and having 30 people insisting on talking to them about how important their individual needs are, only slows down the repair process. 5) Allocations are based on how long you have been continuously displaying at SCxy conferences, within the size category for your booth. Be prepared for a location that sucks. Also, if you plan on doing this routinely in the future, select the size category you plan on doing so that you are better placed in the preference queue for future years. 6) Buy locally or bring along a) spray cans of anti-static stuff advertised for clothes. b) bottles of water for the local troops. Survival food also helps, when they are trapped in the booth getting something going overnight. c) note that with costs of shipping and insurance, you may be better off to buy linux boxes locally and then throw them away after the conference than to ship them there and back. d) lots of power strips, extension cords, tape for running cords as needed, cabling connectors, hubs, etc. 7) Cut CD's with all the software you need or use, and all the data sets. This will let you do installs, etc. while waiting for SCINET to get running. 8) Typically, all the moving and electrical drops and some other things (like carpet laying) have to be done by local union people. Be prepared for major expenses in this category. Booze is not allowed on the floor except for the gala opening, but a couple of six packs hidden behind a table can make the workers much more interested in getting your stuff done earlier. 9) Typically, you can start moving stuff in on Thursday night, with the gala opening on Monday night. a) Have someone get there as early as possible, so they can direct carpet laying, moving in of boxes, etc. b) They will kick everyone out around noon on Monday, so that carpets can be cleaned, buffet food laid out, etc. However, you can have someone stay at the booth *if* they remain strictly in the booth, and don't wander the floor between kick-out time and the opening. c) You will mark your boxes with stickers, then get them back to repack after the event. Tear-down takes one afternoon. d) Decide early on about the manning of the booth, designate a single booth-master and at all times have someone there who can make decisions and answer questions. Have a fixed schedule. e) My personal advice: don't do demonstrations at fixed times. Instead, contact the people who really need to see stuff and arrange times when they will come see the demos. Then have a sign-up sheet. You don't want a funding agency officer coming over to see your cool stuff, only to find some student decided that would be a cool time to be in the midst of a Grand Theft Auto game. 10) Beware: if you are going to run a GRAPPA demo, it uses Globus for authentication. You may need some fixed IP addresses, so arrange to get those early on.

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