FXUS04 KWBC 261950 QPFPFD QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 349 PM EDT MON APR 26 2004 PRELIM DAY 1 AND DAY 2 QPF DISCUSSION VALID APR 28/0000 UTC THRU APR 29/0000 UTC REFERENCE AWIPS GRAPHICS UNDER...PRECIP ACCUM - 24HR DAY 1.... ...ERN U.S... MDLS ARE IN PRETTY GOOD AGREEMENT MASS FIELD-WISE IN THEIR HANDLING OF THE SYS MOVG THRU THE ERN STATES THIS PD..AND THEY ARE ALSO IN GOOD AGREEMENT QPF-WISE..XCP FOR FL. IN FL..THE GFS IS MUCH WETTER AND SOMEWHAT SLOER THAN THE ETA IS..AND ALTHO THERE WL BE A POOL OF HIER PWS ALG/PRECEDING THE FNT WHICH SHLD SUPPORT ORGANIZED CNVCTN..THE GFS APPEARS TO BE SUFFERING FM GRID SCALE FEEDBACK PROBS..SO AM SUSPICIOUS OF ITS SOLN. ALSO..SYS SHLD BE PROGRESSIVE..LENDING SUPPORT TO THE ETA SOLN. THUS..AT LEAST IN FL..WL LEAN TWDS A NOT SO WET ETA QPF IDEA. FARTHER N..SLUG OF HIER PWS..UP TO 1.50 INCHES..IN PLACE AHD OF THE MID/UPR LVL TROF WL LEAD TO A SWATH OF MDT TO LCLY HVY RNFL/CNVCTN FM THE ERN CAROLINAS NNEWD INTO CSTL NEW ENG..WITH THE RAINS SUPPORTED ADDITIONALLY BY DECENT HGT FALLS AND FNTL WVS MOVG ALG THE SFC BNDRY. HIEST PWS AND GREATEST INSTABILITY SHLD RESULT IN THE HVIEST RAINS OCCURRING IN THE ERN CAROLINAS..WHERE SOME 1-2 INCH AMTS ARE LIKELY. LEANED A LTL MORE TWDS THE GFS QPF SOLN HERE. ...PAC NW/NRN GT BASIN... XCP FOR SOME VRY SLGT TIMING/STRENGTH DIFFS..MDLS ARE OTRW IN VRY GOOD AGREEMENT IN DROPPING THE NRN B.C. SYS INTO THE PAC NW/NRN GT BASIN LTR TUE. WITH THE SYS COMING IN FM THE NNW..WON'T BE A LOT OF MSTR AVBL..BUT SOME HGT FALLS/MID LVL DYNAMICS AND AN INCREASE IN LOW LVL ONSHORE FLO SHLD SUPPORT SOME GENLY LGT PCPN AMTS..ESP OVR THE WA CASCADES. THE GFS AND ETA QPFS WERE QUITE SIMILAR HERE..AND WERE GENLY FOLLOWED. DAY 2... IN THE NORTHERN ROCKIES AND THE NRN HIGH PLAINS... THE ETA IS A LITTLE SLOWER THAN THE GFS IN DIGGING A SHORT WAVE FROM CANADA S SEWD INTO THE REGION. BUT THE GFS IS DEEPER WITH THE SYSTEM. THE UKMET AND THE CANADIAN GLOBAL ARE DEEPER AND FARTHER TO THE WEST WITH THE TRACK OF THIS SYSTEM. CONSIDERING THE STRENGTH OF THE UPSTREAM RIDGE... DEEPER IS PROBABLY BETTER. THEREFORE WILL GO WITH A TRACK BETWEEN THE ETA AND THE FOREIGN MODELS... BUT WITH MORE DEPTH THAN THE ETA. THE RESULTING PCPN PATTERN IS MORE LIKE THE ETA THAN THE GFS... WITH ADDITIONAL SPREAD SWD OF LIGHT AMOUNTS INTO UT AND CO. IN THE NORTHEAST... THE UKMET SUPPORTS THE SLIGHTLY SLOWER ETA RATHER THAN THE FASTER GFS WITH THE SHORT WAVE TROF SWINGING ACROSS THE AREA. THEREFORE HAVE GONE ALONG WITH THE ETA PCPN PATTERN. IN THE SOUTHWEST... THE UKMET AND THE CANADIAN SUGGEST THE ETA IS A LITTLE ON THE WEAK SIDE IN BRINGING A SRN STREAM SHORT WAVE NORTHEASTWARD INTO TX. THEREFORE... HAVE GONE ALONG WITH A GFS/UKMET BLEND... WHICH CARRIES LIGHT PCPN INTO SOUTHWESTERN PORTIONS OF THE STATE. 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