BH: Huh. Did you ever hear your folks or somebody else talk about using some of the plants in this area for medicine? Did they have any herbal remedies that they used?
Budge: Not. . . that I know of.
BH: Okay.
Budge: You know, they probably did. I would suppose that they. . . they had some that they used. Soapweed—they used to use a. . . that Spanish man that I think you talked to—that was a Spanish man that they called that soapweed.
BH: Um hum.
Budge: They'd dig that up, and pile up the roots, and use it to wash their hair—the women did.
BH: Oh!
Budge: That's ah. . . they say that makes the best shampoo that you ever saw. And then. . . when you pound it up, it'll suds up just like soap.
BH: Huh.
Budge: We always called it soapweed. No, but ah. . . never used much of anything. Our family, especially—maybe some of the families did. But ah. . . my grandfather, my dad's father was a doctor.
BH: Um hum.
Budge: You know, and ah. . . I think when he got out of the army, he must have brought a lot of the stuff that he had—medicines and stuff—with him, because my mom and dad still had. . . what do they call that cup with the pedestal in it? That they mixed the medicine in?
BH: A mortar and pestle?
Budge: Mortar and pestle. My dad had his father's mortar. . .
BH: Do you remember them using any of the native plants to eat?
Budge: Oh, all kinds of berries, you know, especially they had lots of raspberries—not very many strawberries. Had lots of currants and gooseberries and ah. . . I don't recall them making any wild plants (unintelligible)
BH: Anything for tea, that you remember?
Budge: Ah. . . yeah. They'd use sage.
BH: Oh, really?
Budge: Yeah. Not like this sagebrush is—
BH: Ah huh.
Budge: There's a mountain sage that grows—only gets about that high.
BH: Ah huh.
Budge: And they used to pick that and brew it and make a sage tea out of that. Grandma Calkins—she went for sage tea pretty good.
BH: Huh.
Budge: She liked tea, period. Every morning at ten o'clock.
BH: Was that her break time?
Budge: Yeah. That was tea time—ten o'clock.