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manding officer would be very apt to give his opinion ?—A. Yes, sir; I
did.
Q. Now, I will put it another way. In this consultation, formal
or informal, where the proper course of retreat was canvassed, did not you say, "I advocate a retreat to the Yana River," while you were at the ten-day camp ?—A. It is quite possible I did.
Q. And when you said that you were honest and sincere in your opinion ?—A. Indeed I was. In discussing routes there is no doubt that I discussed that route as well as the other route.
By Mr. ARNOUx :
Q. Do you remember as a fact that you did?—A. I remember a conversation about it, yes, sir; but as for advocating it particularly, I can-not say for a certainty.
Q. Are you here in attendance in this investigation under a subpoena ?—A. Yes, sir.

Q. Do you know at whose procurement the subpoena was issued ?—A. No, sir; my subpoena was signed by Mr. McAdoo, and, of course, I obeyed the order.
Q. You were speaking about conversations between Collins and De Long, and that i hey were not within the hearing of any other than your-self. Did you mean to say that all the conversations that you have spoken of in every part were not in the hearing of others ?—A. No, sir; I explained that to Judge Curtis at the time. At the particular conversations in regard to two or three distinct matters, I said there was no-body present but myself.
Q. Prior to the bear hunt were not all the ship's company required to be at the inspection ?—A. Yes, sir.
Q. Speaking of the matter between Mr. Collins and Captain De Long, I wish to ask you this question : When the denial of a charge is made by one who throughout the whole interview is curt, contemptuous, and disrespectful, in both language and bearing, the manner of his answering being more offensive even than the words used to his superior officer, is not that insubordinate and mutinous?—A. It is considered so; yes, sir.
Q. When you said that outside of the naval discipline one might contradict in the way that Collins was represented to have contradicted Captain De Long, did you refer to a person who was subordinate to another?—A. Between two men that might be business men, or men of acquaintance, that had no responsibility the one to the other, they might give each other the lie, for that matter.
Q. When you told Captain De Long that he had no right to muzzle you, did you address him in a curt, contemptuous, and disrespectful manner?—A. Oh, we were having a pleasant conversation over it, when he said, " You had better sing psalms:" I said, "I did not ship as a psalm-singer." I was in earnest when I said it, too; and I said it in a proper manner, and he took no offense.
Q. What were the natives of the Lena delta ?—A. Yakuts and Tungus.
Q. You said that you had a certain sentiment of honor here being affected by this investigation. Has that at all influenced the testimony you have given?
The WITNESS. In what manner, sir?
Mr. ARNOUx. In any manner to depart from the truth.
A. No, sir; positively, no. I have been obliged to state things here that I would not ordinarily have stated. I think it is a very small and