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[WomenLiteracy 298] Re: "Are Women Human?" CatherineMcKinnon

gspangenberg@caalusa.org caalusa at earthlink.net
Wed May 31 06:19:26 EDT 2006


Colleagues, Re inhuman and malicious treatment of women and girls, has anyone read about the phenomenon of "widows" in India? It was a widespread practice at the time of WWII and even today some 34 million women and girls in India are living out their lives as widows. I realize this discussion is about books and reading, but I strongly recommend the powerful film "Water," which is playing in movie theaters now. It may lead to some interesting discussion and reading. Gail S



-----Original Message-----

>From: Andrea Wilder <andreawilder at comcast.net>

>Sent: May 30, 2006 9:19 AM

>To: The Women and Literacy Discussion List <womenliteracy at nifl.gov>

>Subject: [WomenLiteracy 297] Re: "Are Women Human?" Catherine McKinnon

>

>Daphne,

>

>Thanks for asking.

>

>I'll think over your question today.

>

>I'll be using McKinnon later on in my writing, so I haven't digested

>all that she said--but here is a tidbit: The manner in which she

>engaged the audience in dialogue. This was a terrific model for all of

>us, showing what is possible.

>She took women's questions seriously, made notes on paper, then

>carefully spoke her thoughts. The questions were complex, too.. This

>is respect.

>

>Here is another example: a woman asked about female genital

>mutilation, and the idea of "respect for other cultures," kind of a

>bugaboo. McKinnon immediately cited the attitudes of the African (I

>know it's a big continent) women she had worked with--they agreed

>instantly that genital mutilation was a bad idea, no problem there. As

> it is written about often in the US, there is mention of women who

>would lose income, and what that would do to the female economy--there

>is sympathy, whereas McKinnon has none, and the African women she works

>with had none. And of course it is a horrible practice.

>

>She goes further than anyone I have listened to on the enslavement of

>women, legally, and of the use of women and the rape of women as male

>policy during war. In Bosnia women weren't only raped, the rapes were

>filmed and shown on television. Kind of ultimate "snuff films."

>

>People really should read this book. It should be part of any stock on

>books for a program. or, share out the cost.

>

>Andrea

>

>p.s., By the way, Harvard Bookstore is an independent bookseller, and

>has kept going partly through book talks--newly published authors who

>will travel to promote their book. The tickets I get are $3, sometimes

>a little more, but affordable. I have found the book lectures are a

>great networking place, as all the people who come are interested in

>the same topic.

>

>The talks are held in the bookstore itself, in the Brattle Theater,

>kind of down at the heels, but centrally located to mass transit, and

>a local church about 5 steps away from transit. Harvard Bookstore

>brings a pile of books to each book reading, people OFTEN buy the books

>after the talk, then the author signs the books. No food served. The

>hour for the book talk is ALWAYS convenient, maybe 5, 5:30, 6, or

>6:30, not later. The talk lasts maybe 1/2 hr, and the second part of

>the 1/2 hour is used for taking questions.

>

>AW

>

>On May 29, 2006, at 10:50 PM, Daphne Greenberg wrote:

>

>> Andrea,

>> Thank you for sharing this with us. I am wondering what message did

>> you get from her book, or her talk that you think would be

>> powerful/meaningful for adult learners, adult literacy

>> teachers/administrators to read/hear?

>> Daphne

>>

>>>>> andreawilder at comcast.net 05/29/06 5:42 PM >>>

>> Hello, all--

>>

>> I am piggybacking on someone else's topic(thank you!) This is a new

>> topic.

>>

>> I have just cited the title of Catherine McKinnon's new book, a

>> humdinger, wonderfully thought out and quite painful to read--of course

>> I must say that everyone should--i have jsut skimmed it, so am now

>> expert.

>>

>> I heard her speak recently, was bowled over, the talk included

>> extremely thoughtful questions from the audience, and I have NEVER

>> heard before the kind of thoughtful verbal interaction that happened.

>> We were treated right there in the Brattle Theater of Cambridge, MA as

>> PEOPLE worthy of RESPECT.

>>

>> McKinnon is a lawyer with an international practice, she has also

>> worked for the UN as a consultant. She is extremely elegant, tall,

>> thin, long hair swept up and pinned on top of her head--a dynamic,

>> arresting presence.

>>

>> Andrea

>>

>> On May 28, 2006, at 9:13 AM, Daphne Greenberg wrote:

>>

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