The "t" sound in front of "a" (without saying "wanna") in the sentence "I want a shirt" is not loud and clear in American English, but is loud and clear in British English.  It becomes, " I wan a shirt" in American English, with a slight hiatuse at the "n" before "shirt", a stop insted of pronouncing the "t".  In the sentence, "I washed a shirt", the sound is still a "t".  To make the "ed" sound as "d" is a feat of the tongue that I cannot perform without accentuating the "d" sound into a contortion of American English pronunciation.  Bonnita
   

Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com> wrote:
  
Problem comes in sentences. If you say "I want a shirt" the "t" is loud and 
clear in front of the word "a" (Unless it's said "wanna"). But if you say 
"I washed a shirt", it's "d" not "t" in front of the word "a".

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL4+
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>Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:54:23 -0500

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>The last sound in "wash" before the ed is added is a [sh] sound which is

>voiceless. Following a voiceless final sound before the past ending, the

>[t] is produced. This is not a question of accent, it is an actual rule

>that you can find in pronunciation books.

>

>Nicole

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>Subject: [EnglishLanguage 970] Re: a method of teaching pronunciation

>

>

> > This probably is not the place for linguistic haggles, but I do take 

>issue

> > with the idea that the ending d is pronounced as t as shown below. It 

>may

> > be true of some accents, but I still think it is a d. The tongue is

> > behind

> > the top gums (alveolar ridge) for an ending "d" and this is typical for 

>an

> > ending d. For a t it's behind the teeth.

> >

> > There is some linguistic theory that a "d" is voiced. So if the sound

> > made

> > at the end of a word (say "washed") is not voiced, it must be a "t". I

> > don't agree with that either. I believe a "d" is unvoiced followed

> > quickly

> > by voice, but the plosive part (which is the d) is not voiced. Aslo, 

>the

> > "d" at the end of a word is said with tongue behind top gums and is not

> > voiced.

> >

> > Accents will vary, but if you say that plosive sound (at the end of

> > "washed") with tongue behind top gums and without the aspiration that

> > comes

> > with a t (behind the teeth), then you're saying a d not a t.

> >

> > I'll gladly take this up with linguists in another forum. Where shall 

>we

> > go.

> >

> > Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL4+

> > See truespel.com and the 4 truespel books at authorhouse.com.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >>From: Paul Rogers 



> >>Reply-To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion

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> >>Subject: [EnglishLanguage 964] a method of teaching pronunciation

> >>Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:08:46 -0800 (PST)

> >>

> >> My method of teaching ESL focuses on pronunciation from the first

> >>class. I have observed that when a student feels comfortable pronouncing

> >>English, then she or he is able to advance with confidence. Also, if a

> >>student cannot pronounce words with relative ease, that student cannot

> >>understand spoken English very well either.

> >> And my method is step-by-step as in building a house. Each lesson

> >> leads

> >>to or reinforces the next.Pronunciation is the foundation.

> >> For example, Beginning students:

> >> First Lesson

> >>1. The alphabet

> >>2. Demonstration of the pronunciation of g, j, and v using a lot of 

>humor.

> >> 3. Repetition of the alphabet out loud by the class.

> >>4. Spelling out loud. Each student must spell her or his name out loud 

>in

> >>English, and, depending, the names of family members.

> >> Second Lesson

> >>1. The numbers up to one million.

> >>2. Pronunciation of short u ("numbers"), th (three, thirteen), short i

> >>(six), silent e at end of word (five, nine), etc.

> >>3. Simple practice. How much is ...1 and 1, 2 and 1, telling time, etc.

> >>4. All students take turns reading a dialogue out loud.

> >> Other Lessons

> >>Greetings

> >>Pronunciation of h (Hello), use of "you" etc.

> >>Note: I use "reminders" constantly in my classes, especially with g, j,

> >>short I, and th.

> >>Class participation reading dialogues out loud.

> >>

> >> I have also designed a series of exercises to help students 

>learn

> >>the differentiation between short i and ee, j and y, th and t, and v and

> >>b.

> >>These exercises are done in a contest format.

> >> Within a month, most of my students get a good grasp of 

>pronunciation

> >>and a working vocabulary.

> >> All of my students receive a textbook I have written plus an audio

> >> cd

> >>that accompanies the text. Usually I work in a computer lab setting so

> >>that

> >>half the class can use PUMAROSA.

> >> Below is a lesson I use to teach the pronunciation of the past

> >>tense which is contained in my grammar workbook.

> >> LA PRONUNCIACION DEL PASADO

> >>El tiempo pasado de los verbos tienen la terminaciòn de "D" o "ED", y 

>hay

> >>tres pronunciaciones.

> >>1. Con el sonido de "T" A los verbos que terminan en su forma bàsica con

> >>las letras "k," "p," "ss," "..ace," "sh" y "ff" (y las palabras que 

>tienen

> >>el sonido de "ff," como "laugh" - reirse, y "cough" - toser), - la

> >>pronunciaciòn de la "-ed" en su forma pasado es "T."

> >>Ejemplos:

> >>"helped" se pronuncia "helpt"

> >>"talked" se pronuncia "takt"

> >>Las más comunes:

> >>ached = aekt

> >>asked = aeskt

> >>cooked = kukt

> >>jumped = jampt

> >>looked = lukt

> >>stopped = stapt

> >>walked = iualkt

> >>washed = iuasht

> >>watched. = iatcht

> >>worked = iuirkt

> >>2. "ED"

> >>A los verbos que terminan con los sonidos "d" o "t" en su forma bàsica, 

>su

> >>forma pasada se pronuncia "ED."

> >>Ejemplos:

> >>"sounded" se pronuncia "saund-ed"

> >>"constructed" se pronuncia "construct - ed"

> >>otros: acted demanded demonstrated divided exploded voted NOTA: Este 

>grupo

> >>de palabras tambien contiene muchos cognados, o palabras que estàn

> >>parecidas o iguales en inglès y español.

> >>3. "D"

> >>Con los demas verbos, su terminaciòn en el pasado se pronuncia "D," asi:

> >>"lived" se pronuncia "livd" "learned" se pronuncia "lernd"

> >>Otras: Copied Defined Described Employed Explained Played Remembered

> >>*Usa el diccionario para traducirlos; solamente quita la "d" o "ed."

> >>

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