[EnglishLanguage 1000] Re: pronunciation of edBonnita Solberg bdsunmt at sbcglobal.netMon Jan 15 17:31:02 EST 2007
The "t" sound of "ed" at the end of a word indicates past tense, as does the sound "d" or "ed" or "id". I have not heard anyone in an American English conversation say "jumped" four times in a row, so this point escapes me. Although the sound "d" for "ed" at the end of a word is, in some cases, easier to say, this example does not support that "sometimes." In this case it is a contortion of American English to say "jumpd", which is neither easy or used in "flowing" speech. Tom Zurinskas <truespel at hotmail.com> wrote: Thanks Tom, good points. My problem was how to phonetically spell "jumped" in truespel. (Someone said the books say ~jumpt, which started this discussion). I decided on ~jumpd. It retains the "d" to show past tense. It is mostly spoken "d" in flowing speech. Saying ~jumpt four times fast is much more a strain (to get that aspiration in at the end of "t") than ~jumpd. This shows that ~d is easier to say, and speech tends to lean to the easiest pronunciation. Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL4+ See truespel.com and the 4 truespel books at authorhouse.com. >From: "Thomas N. Robb" >Reply-To: The Adult English Language Learners Discussion >List >To: "The Adult English Language Learners Discussion >List" >Subject: [EnglishLanguage 997] Re: pronunciation of ed >Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:50:37 +0900 > >What is happening with the /d/, compared with /t/, endings is technically >called "devoicing". The "voiced consonants" such as /b/, /d/, /g/ and /v/ >tend not to be fully voiced at the end of words, so they end up sounding >pretty much like their unvoiced counterparts /p/, /t/, /k/, and /f/. We >can't really say that they become the same, however, because if the >following word begins with a vowel, then the full voicing is heard. >Compare: > >He jumped. > >He jumped in. > >Cheers, > Tom Robb, Japan > > **Join PacCALL http://www.paccall.org ** > >** Thomas Robb, Kyoto Sangyo University, Japan ** >** ** >** http://www.kyoto-su.ac.jp/~trobb/index.html ** >---------------------------------------------------- >National Institute for Literacy >Adult English Language Learners mailing list >EnglishLanguage at nifl.gov >To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to >http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/englishlanguage >Message sent to TRUESPEL at hotmail.com. _________________________________________________________________ Communicate instantly! Use your Hotmail address to sign into Windows Live Messenger now. http://get.live.com/messenger/overview ---------------------------------------------------- National Institute for Literacy Adult English Language Learners mailing list EnglishLanguage at nifl.gov To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/englishlanguage Message sent to bdsunmt at sbcglobal.net. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nifl.gov/pipermail/englishlanguage/attachments/20070115/3ff1f6fd/attachment.html
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