Posted on Aug 16, 2007 12:00:00 AM | Susan Watanabe | 366 Comments
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NASA's twin Voyager spacecraft launched in August and September 1977. Aboard each spacecraft is a Golden Record, a collection of sites, sounds and greetings from Earth.
If a new Golden Record were to be created, what one item from the past 30 years would you include? Give us your ideas by Sept. 5, 2007 (the 30th anniversary of Voyager 1's launch) and our Voyager Mission team will pick what they think would be the best additions. Just click on the Comment link at the bottom of this page.
Each identical Golden Record contains:
-- 117 pictures explaining Earth. This includes drawings and images that convey information about our solar system, images of people doing various activities and a variety of plants and animals, as well as scenes from around the world.
-- Greetings in 54 different human languages and greetings from humpback whales.
-- A selection of sounds from Earth. This ranges from natural sounds, like storms and volcanoes, to human-made noises such as trains, airplane and rocket take-offs, animals, tools being used, and a mother kissing a child.
To see a selection of pictures and sounds on the Golden Record; visit http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/voyager/goldenrecord-20070816.html
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I have looked through many of the blogs from the public. While I found several intriguing ideas about using something other than a phonograph record, there were problems with each. A book of many pages might be too heavy and I am not sure how well paper would survive the journey. While a DVD could hold more information, the playback becomes more complicated. The idea of an array of flash memory cards somehow connected to a small computer is also interesting but I don't know how one would power it after the RTGs have decayed.
So I have decided to stick with content. Technology is always good but it gets outdated relatively fast when compared the the length of the spacecraft's journey. So I thought I should stick with something that wears well over the centuries - music, sounds and pictures.
Ed Massey, Voyager Project Manager
Here are my choices:
Gabby Lang wrote:
Hello,
My choice of photos for the Golden Record would be:
1. A group photo of people from different races, explainig the diversity of the human spicies.
2. A photo of people greeting each other, by shaking hands, hugging and even kissing.
All the best,
Gabby Lang.
AND
Franois Monet wrote:
It would seem that during the evolution of music in the past 50 years, the most important musician or group of musicians has been The Beetle. They blended rockabilly, folk, jazz, classical, even Indian music together. Therefore, I would add one of their songs to the Golden Record. May I suggest "Here Come's the Sun" ................ (Not Strawberry Fields Forever)
As for a sound? Certainly that of a PC booting up in the office at 9:00am.
(Must be a late riser)
And for a picture? That of glaciers melting. Ice will not outlive the Voyager spacecrafts.
"Eight Miles High"
~The Byrds
"American Pie"
~Don Mclean
"I Saw Her Standing There"
~The Beatles
says it all
it is a bad idea to do this because they or something now know how to find us ,kill us,and we don't know any thing about it or them ask yourself this!what if we are somethings food source.
I would include:
- A blueprint of a device which can lead anything that finds the voyager to build the device and point it back to Earth.
- Directions to building a device to point powerful radio signals back to earth.
- I would also include scripture exerpts from the different religions of the world.
- I would also include directions to make duplicate copies of the golden record.
A copy of 'Gas - Microscopic'. Real space music.
Plus a copy of Google Earth.
Yeah, add some DnB into it. Nascar, who likes driving a circle. Some formula 1, Kimi Raikkonen Q3 lap in Monaco 2005, real driving.
very cool....considering that this will be the first manmade object to leave our solar system and enter interstellar space is a great scientific achievement, especially because of the fact that we made this spacecraft with the technology we had 30 years ago. I dont think that we could make a finer machine today. we can only hope that it continues on its journey and send back as much as it's fuel will allow.
I would like that you send some pictures about the political division of the earth, and the all ethnical groups and the forms of the life.
thanks.
Happy 30, i have 2 cd's. called Voyager 1/2.
I have called them 'Voager One'...on the cover of Voyager One i have an image of the spacecraft, on this cd i have all male singers, 'Voyager Two'...i have an image of the gold record, on this cd i have all female singers, both cd's start with 'This Is The BBC' people from different countries saying
'This Is The BBC in Washington,Dubi,Basra,Tokyo,Rome,
Morsat,Georgetown,Venice,Nirobi,Sanpol...
'Where ever you are,your with the BBC'...So by the time they get through the heliosheath it will be 2017, a question i have always asked myself which way are they going,is it east,west north or south of earth,are they going back in time or going forward in time or does it not matter...as we say here in Australia, 'Drive On'...From The Land Of The kangaroo'
Use a single language to invite them over or exchange information.
No point confusing them. Use text engraved on a plate.
But as a key to understanding the language, give them simple instructions to calculate a simple universal constant, like say Pi. From this they might be able to infer what the message actually means.
let try 2 give a reference to how sencitive is the health of mother earth
maybe somebody over there can give us a hand.like the single of the
police message in a botlle."send at s.o.s" :-)
We should send Paris Hilton because she's too fabulous for just one planet...ha ha!
Maybe an amazing ISS photo.
Congratulations ot NASA and "boa viagem" to the Voyagers...
Happy birthday Voyger's team.....congractulations of Brazil...and world....
We have H20
A CLIP FROM A NASCAR RACE WITH THE CARS GOING BY AND THE ROAR OF THE CROWD.
Put some drum and bass on it man!!!
How about: prodigy - out of space??
How about a 12 year single malt !!
Possibly 5012 years when it arrives on an alien bar.,
I would add: The dark side of the Moon album from Pink Floyd :-) and few images from Hubble, Spitzer and other very good space missions...
A photo of all the Gods from every religion.
If i given a chance then i would add following
!]an image of each and every creature that are on earth now or which are vanished but were there.
2)sound of each animal (not only few specific but all).
3)some of the images taken by hubbel.
4)some high frequncy sounds.
5)few sentences from each and every region of world.
6)aliens' imaginery photos
7)we have to add the photos of natural disasters and of man made like nuclear accidents or wars etc. so that they should know that earth is not just good as it looks.
We should play them Mozart and send them directions so they can come and kill us all for being so stupid as to draw attention to ourselves when we have no means of defending the Earth.
WOW! How cool is this? My son thinks this is a cool project and wanted to say that he thinks you should put a recording of Barney's "I love you" on it.
RV
Congratulations and happy anniversary! Many, many more years to your missions.
As to what to include - explain Einstein's famous formula.
send a rubix cube, that will confuse the little critters.
My navy blue sock so that it can finally meet up with its missing twin.
An episode of the Jetsons that the finders will think is a documentary.
Hello!
I would include
- The Frequencies the SETI-Folks are listening to
- Pictures of our Night Sky as we see it with the naked Eye to show "them" where we are
- Informations about our Interplanetary Missions Messages and where to find them
- some modern 3-D Pictures to show that we do not live in a "Flat" World
- some Recipes to appeal not only to the Eyes and Ears
- some more (of my Favourite Music): Joy Division, Sisters of Mercy, Fields of the Nephilim and The Mission
- some more Pictures and Sounds of our "Modern World", but also some more, which carry our Culture, Spirits and Hopes or our History
- some Literature, Epics and Poems like "The Lord of the Rings", some Greek Epics or e. g. Norse or Sumeric Sagas, to carry Human Feelings like Love, Hate, Passion,.... . Maybe an In-Flight Re-Recordable Disc would not be bad for sending some "Updates"
- as the Voyagers also carry a "Hardware"-Device to actually play the Records, i would also add some Seeds and some Brine Shrimp Eggs. This to carry something "living" into Space; and Brine Shrimps because their Eggs are one of the most durable Liveform i know. As the planned KEO-Mission a drop of Blood and a Soil-Sample encapsuled in a Diamond
And just for the case of an "Emergency": the Country-Song from the Mars-Attacks Finale as a "Hidden Track". Just to be sure......... . ;-))
If you have oil we may be able to come to some sort of arrangement.
Best Regards
Earth
Dna molecule diagram and explanation.
Hello !
Kudos to the Voyager team and to the entire NASA family and greetings from India! Being a fan of the Voyager mission, I would like to include the following things from the past 30 years.
Photos:
1. The complete picture of the solar system with the Sun and the planets occupying the relative positions. Also can trace back from the origin (i.e. Earth) to the destination direction of the Voyager spacecrafts.
2. One of the Hubble Deep Field Images describing the large scale structure of the Universe and also the deepest and the most detailed visible view of the universe - the same can be complemented with the depiction of a Telescope taking the picture from a Planet, say Earth.
3. Picture of different "star constellations" as seen from the surface of a planet (say Earth).
4. Picture of(Extra)Solar/ Lunar Eclipses with different phases including transits of planets.
Videos
1. Animations of formation and death of Stars with events like Neutron star, Black Hole formation, GRBs.
2. Video/ Animation on Water - the basic fluid of life- it's different uses, availability, modes of usages etc.
Thanks,
Sarag J Saikia
Bombay
India
I would put these music pieces:
- Eine kleine nachtmusik, first movement, of Mozart
- Ninth symphony, last movement, of Beethoven.
And also some paintings of Michelangelo, Botticelli and Rembrandt.
Hi, NASA friends.
My name is Wilson and I`m a 28 engineering student from Brazil and I like everything about NASA so much. Since I was a little boy.
Today I love to study the universe,our galaxy and all about space.
I Would put beautiful landscapes from the earth,beautiful photos from the US cities and the World.
I hope to know NASA one day and the USA. to practice my english.
Thank you.
If the idea was to attempt to communicate with another intelligence, it was clearly a mistake to use more than one language. The choice of the language is not important, but it should all be in the same language. An alien attempting to figure out humans will glean more from whatever written words are found elsewhere on the craft. (e.g. "Do not over tighten camera support bolts") than the golden record, which I thought was little more than a confusing collection of Earth noise.
The pictures should be in the power point format (with the program to decifer) together with the sounds. The communication technology made the 30 year leap, which should be reflected on the quality of the pictures, or better the movie clips provided with the sounds. There should be a simple player included.
Jerry
how bout a cheesburger and a pack of smokes?
now seriously. maybe a mathematical projection of future human technological-cultural growth.(sort of subliminal "meet U there and there, as soon as i grind for a car fast enough to do it")
I would add a picture of my girlfriend because we should present ourselves as the most beautiful creatures of this universe so we can make a good first impression.
y would include a message asking if them, the aliens, would like to give us his tecnology in case that it would better.
I would add the book Battlefield Earth, with the comment, we do not want things to go this way.
Then, if it were up to me, I would send the videos from the two times the Minnesota Twins won the World Series. Especially the series against Atlanta, where both teams were in last place the year before. What is more inspiring than Kirby's game winning home run or Morris' 10 inning shutout. At least if you are a Twins fan.
I would include an episode of star trek voyager but only one without borg and without some alien ship getting destroyed. that wouldn't be so impressing. maybe the episode "the thaw" or "one small step"
I would add some kind of register about global warming, population growth and natural environment devastation.
i would put on the new disk a bible of all types and a understanding of what happened so people of the futer and the people who's so far out will know what happened
a depiction of of a human being from birth to old age
Going through pictures send by Voyagers brothers are amazing and breathtaking. It give us a feeling that how small we are in universe however at the same time it give us a sense of pride being a Hume beings, trying to see beyond our solar systems. May be voyager can see existence of life in other part of universe.
send a photo of me then evey one will come to see me thanks
A very sincere, and heartfelt apology to whomever finds this asking forgiveness for how we as a race could screw up what we were given and the mockery we have made of learning.
Slightly off topic... I believe that the information on the original disks should be in the Public Domain. I have so far not found a complete catalog with rationale for how each element was chosen. Those articles I have read have been very interesting and thoughtful. The original committee did a good job.
I request that NASA release a web site with all the recordings and images along with supporting documents as part of this 30th anniversary.
The scientists and engineers who planned the Voyager missions were superb--imagine executing a 30-year science mission with the computing technology of 1977 that continues to pay off even in our supercomputing world! Well done! Brilliant.
Dr. Stone is an excellent spokesman who appears to still love his job 30 years later. Best regards.
a reply post paid envelope.
We recommend a slideshow style illustration of Earth's atmosphere over a period of time. This could show images from space of the weather imaging. Slide 1 to show the earliest images available from space with a coinciding image taken from Earth's perspective. Take the slides on to current date.
Send them a copy of the BBC's documentary "Planet Earth" (complete with outtakes), a portable device to play it, some batteries -- which will go bad long before they get the probe -- and hope that they are advanced enough to reverse-engineer a power source and play the video.
I'd create a new spacecraft that has robotics onboard which are designed to assemble engine components, which are not yet assembled, and as technology improves, the pieces can be assembled in space. The box should include: lasers, chemicals, antenna, and power source. It would be like sending a box of legos into space, and when our technology is better, we can send a signal to the pieces to assemble themselves, at which time the craft will be completed. The whole challenge is to be able to increase speed quickly. Maybe in ten years we'll know how to assemble a laser and a chemical to create a very fast engine. Maybe if we ship a crate full of lasers and chemicals into deep space today, in ten years the robot on board can assemble them. This is the best way in which we could catch up to Voyager and photograph it, then surpass it, and become the leading craft into insterstellar space...but that's just foolish, why race against ourselves? Answer: Maybe to prove our technology is more advanced than those guys from that 1960's earth. Maybe to show we believe our technology will improve in the next ten years, and we have the components available today.
I would put an improved version of the Google Earth's terrestrial sphere.
My advice is not to send out greeting cards until we have the ability to host guests...and ask them to leave if they do not behave themselves.
Or at least send out ones with the wrong address. :)
DNA of all the plant and animal species that we killed off.
But I think we'd better hurry before the payload exceeds our lift capability.
Glad to see you guys are blogging now. And to include in the overall gold record, I'd like to hope you'd some how include the rise of people powered internet communication.
On a side note, I'm hoping you'll also expand this site and allow more interaction with users, sort of a soapblox style community.
Good luck on the new blog. About the golden record, was there a committee who designed the content? I'm curious how the decisions were made for those particular photos. Should we only tell about earth's good things and not about the bad?
tell the truth, humans are cruel, evil beings who take everything and give nothing but now in the time of change and exploration we look for peace and harmony, and truth. we are pupils in a masters world looking for anything and everything we can to save ourselves and our universe before are last six years is up. Ask for answers to our own gene structure, ask for answers to physics, ask for answers in harmonics, so that maybe before its to late, we can unlock our true potential and save our own world and bring peace and harmony to the entire galaxy. We shouldn't play music from any era because in all music there is conflict. A tunning fork would be best, a tune we can't hear they might be able to hear and from that we can start to understand to true meaning to sound and its purpose. We should look for peace and truth before its too late and only a few remain to fix our world and start over again. 2012 is coming and only we can save ourselves by opening our third eye.
New discoveries that have been made in space.
...........................................Hello I'm Thailand...............................................
Hello Voyager.
Go Go Voyager.
Long time! Long way! Long age!
............................................Go Go......................................................
............................................Thailand...................................................
I think a picture of the International Space Station should be included because it represents humankind that tries to conquer space by working together.
photos of the most beautiful woman and man on the earth ,
I think we should also send a time piece of some form. Whoever finds these recordings will need some way of understanding at what point in time we existed. I only say this because the likelyhood of some alien race finding our golden records in our life time may be very small, so the information we send will be more of a monument to our existance than an invitation to visit us. Having said that, if the spacecraft was to crash into a object like a planet then there wont be much of it left to understand. I thinks a good idea to send these objects into space even if the chances of a reply are slim to none. Man didnt get where he is today by being too afraid to wander over the next hill for fear of meeting the unknown.
Live long and prosper.
An overview of intellectual property concepts.
Most of the comments written here are very narrow minded, but I guess that's one component that makes us "human". When the original recording was made 30 years ago, it was unfortunately produced using the latest technologies. A record player? Do any of you even own one today? What if the alien life that encounters it doesn't have the ability to hear? And suggesting video, or buttons that illuminate to instruct the alien to "press play" to watch a video is fine, but what if they can't see or their ability to see if restricted to certain bandwidths that prevent them from even see video or the illuminated button to press play. I could go on and on, but if they ever create a time capsule again, they should really think about these things.
First thing that came to mind would be to put a copy of the Humane Genome on the disc.
Hellow! Nice to see you!!
If I recommend a new select, I'd like choose J.S. Bach's Nr.1 sonata for violon-cello solo.
And I'd like recommend Beethoven Nr.9 symphony 4th movement.
(I think there are many things that should be chosen. In my opinion, Dvorak's viollin concerto, Max Bruch's Scotish Fantasy ...etc.)
A picture that I recommend first is, the moon and the earth which taken by Voyager spacecrafts themselves!!
Thank you very mach.
I agree with Gary, Aug 23, 2007 01:01:28 PM, God help us if the race that find either Voyager are anything like us.
I'm a chinese college student majoring in astronautics,also an astronomy fan.
I think the Voyager mission is one of the most successful mission of NASA,it obtains much more knowledge of out solar system planets than ever before.I love Voyager,I love JPL,I love NASA!!!
I would send my cell phone number, so I could talk to the aliens before I decided to invite them over.
INCLUDE NAZCA LINES (PERU) SEEM FROM THE AIR (RUNWAY AND ASTRONAUT)
I'm from Mexico,will be great to put on the golden record a full/compact explanation about Maya's extraterrestrial conection teory. Maybe this will be helpfull to someone to understand our present based in our past.
Regards
Include the question: Do you believe or have God?
The picture of Katrina hitting the Louisiana Coast with
some audio from it.
What should be added is a list of space related discoveries since 1977. What we learned from Hubble and what we learned about Mars and the other planets. Whoever reads this record would understand we are a space fairing world (and nation) and are looking to contact what life is outside our small world.
May allah lead you in and out
i think that they should put pictures of human development on planet earth like the empire state buliding or the great wall of china so they could see that we are an avanced race
Echoes - Pink Floyd
I choose photos of the most beatiful woman and man on the earth ,very mind blowing beautifulness ,
I nominate "Good Vibrations" by the Beach Boys.
Send a copy of the original Twilight Zone episode "To Serve Man" with the message: WE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO AND WE'RE VERY SALTY!
Include a space map showing our galaxy; showing them where they can find us.
Include the leading theories in Physics that stand today being String theory, General Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, etc. Along with the basic mathematical building blocks that are included on the first one.
Maybe someone out there has gone far and beyond where we stand and can sends back revisions...
Instead of making the "golden plates" look more like a travle brochure, add the other parts of human life. Doctors operating on people, war pictures, famine, death and distruction of past storms and natural events. Also add the good parts of life, people in love, children, families, parties. Pictures of our space program, the international space station, our space track record from our first rocket to our latest shuttle launch. A short map of our history of earth and a history of human life....not to mention a picture of ME!!!
It would be useless to put specific songs hoping that some alien life will understand what they're talking about, if we humans have so many different languages (many of them impossible to understand unless we learn it in school)how can we expect them to understand english songs or a song in any language.
Instead sounds like plain music, ocean waves, water running in a river, pictures of a waterfall, human races living happily, playing, sharing moments of happiness, sunrise or sunset a few animal pictures.
It would be easier to some alien life to be aware that there is another planet with "beings" living on it and giving them directions on where are we located "in case they have the resources" to come and pay us a visit.
we might take the opportunity to say goodbye before we destroy ourselves and perhaps apologise for wasting the tremendous opportunity life presented us.
Michael Riddle
PLEASE SEND NOTHING. If the original Voyager missions are ever traced back to Earth by a violent sucessful species we're facing overwhelming technology and extinction! Bloggers who say we should send them music or send them DIRECTIONS are naive.
Now that I think about it a likely bigger security threat than a Voyger mission are our tv and radio signals currently flying out from Earth into space at the speed of light for at least the last 50 years. They go faster and spread wider....oh oh!
Think of this...We as Humans have been extremely agressive and successful in driving less capable species into zoo's, into intensive farming or extinction to further our way of life so why should we expect mercy if those are the laws other "successful" species live by too. I think we should at least wait until we are more mobile and competent in the space environment before we start inviting our neighbours over. When we send directions we have no control over who or what follows them back to Earth. Whether they are diplomats or agressive armies we are at the mercy of any space farring species.
> 24 On Aug 22, 2007 02:07:45 PM JM Le Bigot wrote:
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> Although I was fairly young at the time, what I remember most >about Voyager is a picture. This is how I remember it: after the >take off of both crafts, Karl Sagan convinced NASA to turn one >craft (can't remember wich one) around and take a picture or the >earth and moon in one frame. It shows the bluish earth (Pale Blue >Dot?)and the moon on a completely black background. I made a >profound impression on me. The picture was published in National >Geographic(?). I haven't seen it since and can't find it anywhere. >Anybody has any clues?
The NASA shot http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/photo_gallery/photogallery-earthmoon.html#voyager
Another Earth Moon shot http://space.about.com/od/pictures/ig/Earth-Pictures-Gallery/Distant-Earth-and-Moon.htm
Clear shot of the first pic http://www.planetary.org/image/PIA00013.jpg
Voyager's picture page http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/image/otherimages.html
*next time we have to integrate a monitor with the probe.
*it should be made specially for this purpose, that it should able to work normal whenever operated in the far future.
*and there should be a large(human head size) self-illuminating or attractive button.
*so that whenever some creatures with eye(optical organ) cross our probe will never miss to see that button.
*all the creatures(even me) in the universe will think to disturb that button, earlier button should be programmed such that whenever it disturbed strongly should turn on the monitor to show the videos.
*and the monitor glass should be bullet proof, because sometime the creature may think to harm the monitor.
There is a 'family" picture of our solar system that I beleive one of the voyagers took, what a great picture to add of our home in the galaxy!
good luck!
Great!
The only way our spacecraft could be found by intelligent extraterrestrial life is by another spacecraft of some kind. I think the sharing of knowledge about space vehicle propulsion should be priority. Use mathematics to communicate. Invite them to earth. Sure there would be alot of frightened people if ET showed up, but mankind needs a change. Besides, earth would be populated by a completely different generation by then anyway. The galaxy is more dense with stars closer to the center. I think the spacecraft should be directed inward rather than outward. There may be a greater chance of our spacecraft wondering into a life baring solar system.
A microchip containing the names of anybody who wants to sign up, perhaps with some details. This should be made available to anybody in the world to sign up, including perhaps recruiting peace corp participants to get names form remote villages that would otherwise not have a clue about it.
voyager space is very nice probe.. because this probe, explore the solar system...
I would request that a complex formulae is included.
One that has the ability to be used for a multitued of applications including modeling "string theory" and
mapping DNA but uses easy to comprehend Formula.
Because the intended "students" of this have an unquantifiable interlectual ability the first prinsibles beheind it should be included.
R = K x Theta ; C = Lamda / F ; V / ( I x R )
The Square root of 1 ; which is 1 and -1 so that a double helix can be generated.
It should include instructions on how to make a pencil, the use of cuniform on clay to record words, the use of the I Ching to record concepts, and the sky's the limit!
A copy of the DVD of Hayao Miyazaki's anim� film, "Spirited Away". I would choose this beautiful film because it is a human work of art and a work of pure imagination, depicting the journey of a young girl. The film contains beautiful and stylish images and exquisite and touching orchestral music.
Any alien civilisation might discover that the human race could hope, dream and create beautiful visions, as well as send spacecraft to the stars.
Information to convey that life forms on our earth are carbon based.
DNA samples of all life on Earth
If I did so, I would like to choose a solo sonata Nr.1 for Violon-cello , written by J.S. Bach.
(In my opinion, Dvorak's viollin cocerto
or Max Bruch's Scottish Fantasy are quite good.)
Image should be ... the Earth and the Moon taken by Voyager spacecraft itself !! ...I believe so.
Vayagers, have a nice trip!
And, Well Done! NASA and JPL every-member!
I'm thanking to you...
I would include information about the International Space Station, and how we are looking to set up a base on the moon, and to travel beyond the moon to Mars via the Constellation Project.
I'd include a diagramatic representation of the Internet (on a simplified world map) to illustrate that, at this stage in our history, human communications technology had progressed to the point where we had developed a global computer network. Not quite sure how we could represent that to aliens, to whom the Internet would seem rather primitive! Nevertheless, it is certainly a major development of our time.
The presence of water is the key to all life on this planet. This should be the central theme of all images and concepts on the record.
I would have a pictogram of a molecule of water followed by the group theory calculations describing its symmetry and how to determine the IR and Raman active bands. This will give the future readers some clue as to what to scan for in the heavens with their instruments.
Then I would have an image of a human drinking water, an image of a family playing in the ocean with dolphins, and finally the sounds of the ocean.
Well,i think,
the progress we
make in computer
technology in the
past 30 years is
really necessary,
as we are able to
have more methods
to communicate with
the outer-space
creatures,which may
make the alien under-
stand us.
I would put the principle idea of every major religion onto it.
The complete works of YouTube?
Just kidding. I would have to be video. A brief history of civilization and a compressed encyclopedia.
Oh, and "please don't enslave us" message.
Hi, How about sports sounds,or just nice
relaxing music(too much like whales?).
Thanks for reading this.
William.
The recipes for Twinkies and Jello. I mean, come on, no alien civilization out there is going to have these unless we share!
Danger! Do Not Land! Predatory Species in Control! Contact at Your Own Risk!
A digital copy of Gary Larson's The Complete Far Side.
Considering that one of the goals here is to give potential intelligent life forms information that would enable them to easily contact and/or visit us on Earth we must give them the key to the internet. We already know that various wavelengths and frequencies of the electromagnetic spectrum can be used to communicate as we do with radio waves. I would give them technical information about cellular telephone networks and other wireless networks like WiFi so that if they could tap into these networks to get to the servers they could use the internet to sent us images, video and sound bytes from their world. This would be the quickest known way of contacting us if they cannot travel at the speed of light. Obviously if they could travel faster than light it would be faster just to visit us face to face. Thanks.
There so much good music that you can put on the Golden Record:
The Doobie Brothers- Listen To The Music
Journey- Anyway you want it
Bryan Adams- Run to you
The Four Seasons- December of 63
I personally feel that music is the best way for other life-forms to get a vivid picture of who we truly are.
we should send sound's and pic's of different emotions that human's have ,like love and anger happyness, sadness. Our known idea's on Space and the different kinds of religon we have somthing that we think defines humanity as a whole
Our mistakes as a human race (global warming, violence, war). Our triumphs as a human race (invention, emotion, existance). Our hopes as a human race (equality, imagination, discovery).
I would include a record of all the animals that had appeared in earth, since the smallest organism. And, also pictures of how the first animals began evolving from a single cell organism to the dinousaurs to mamals to us. My brother says if you can include a picture of the tallest mountain, the deepest ocean,the biggest dessert and the most beautiful forest in the world.
thank you
I think you should put a song from Vivaldi's called "Spring" because i think that song evokes calm and happiness on most people. Also, pictures of sunrise and sunset and snow. People making snow angels in the snow.
How about placing all of the theoretical equations that pertain to fusion power, artificial gravity and faster-than-light travel on the record, in the hope that the "teacher" will correct our "homework" and send it back to us...?
Something we have forgotten is that our FM radio and television signals have far outpaced the two spacecraft, as well as the two Pioneers which preceded them.
I like to believe that we will get a message someday that not only includes answers to the above, but also a "Welcome to the galactic community- now get out there and clean up your probes!"
By the way, does anyone know if there are symbols which explain that the four spacecraft have radioactive sources powering them, or are we relying upon whoever finds them to have sensors capable of identifying a biohazard?
It would be rather ironic to have it all end because of our probe contaminating whoever might discover it.
Message:
we are earth beings
we reach out to you from where we are
we present to you this communication
there are many lifefonrms on our world
we try to speak for all.
Pictures..
Sounds,from Earth....
light, or visual
movement, or vibration in the
probe activated by interaction movement,or stimmulation
How about something related to the mankind's belief in God.
I would give a detailed description of the most efficient and safe form of energy production and storage we have available, weather that be photocells or hydrogen engine models. both having elements that would probably be present in a life supporting environment. I would hesitate on nuclear, I mean lets face it. if it is received by life that is more advance than us then it would be useless and dirty information. However, who wants to be the cause of blowing up a lesser alien species.
You never maybe we would get something better back.
I would add images of the three states of water (gas, liquid, solid) on our planet. There should be photos, drawings, paintings, etc... depicting our lovely water planet with her crystal caps of ice, swimming in a sea of air. Images of ice, snow flakes, glaciers, pack ice, clouds, dew, rain, streams & rivers, oceans, humans swimming, bathing & drinking, fish, marine animals, otters, the list goes on & on. To a being from another planet our relationship with water in it's various forms tells, literally, a world about us.
Hello,
My choice of photos for the Golden Record would be:
1. A group photo of people from different races, explainig the diversity of the human spicies.
2. A photo of people greeting each other, by shaking hands, hugging and even kissing.
All the best,
Gabby Lang.
Do you realy think anyone outside earth and solar system will find your intact "golden record"? Tray to find by chance a definte electron in the earth matter!
It would be better to send a "golden record" coming back to earth in 100thousand years to tell a new generation of live how stupid mankind was.
New York City at rush hour.
While we're on the subject of sounds, include a little taste of David Bowie's "Space Oddity" from his Ziggy album. Or...how about Elton John's "Rocket man"? Just a thought. Seriously...unless of course, the already did that.
First of all, it would be a DVD, and I would include the same of the first golden disc plus:
* Audio:
- Carl Sagan speech from ending Cosmos's firs chapter "We humans, appear in the cosmic calendar ....."
- Chick Corea, No Mystery
- Vangelis, So long ago
- Iron Maiden, The reincarnation of bengaming breg.
- Miles Davis, all.
- Guns n Roses, Civil War
- Mozart, all.
- Beethoven, all.
* Video:
- Cosmos.
- Star Wars.
- Contact.
- Planet earth from national geographic
- First season of "Whose Line Is It Anyway?"
- A Les Luthier's DVD.
- INXS Live Baby Live.
Thats all for now...got to back to work...
I must have send the BLUE PRINT to built a radio Tr/Rr , so that they can make contact with us ,
All these things in pictorial form with all detailings of the technology and materials used .
If possible I may send one such devise with instruction in picture form for them to contact us. Also our position in milky way and around our Sun.
i think we should add our advances we had made in the past 30 years. example computers better cars.
The sound of industry. Such as the hammering of metal on an anvil.
If I have to send any thing from earth to outer space for a contact with others out there, then I must have send -
- one blueprint of making a radiotrasmitter and also the frequency on which they may contact us,
-our position in milkyway and around our star , both
-few microorganisms, bacterias etc,
-our calculation system - how much digits we use etc
-all the massages and such things in pictorial form ,
etc etc etc
A dreaming, star-struck kid during Apollo, I was 15 when Voyager was launched, and sure I would be a space explorer- but, I became an artist instead. I wish we could encode video of Olympic Opening Ceremonies and/or highlights (Humans on our best behavior, doing our best). If it's an audio-only suggestion, How about the song "Why Should I Cry For You"(2) from the IMAX film "The Living Sea".
More Love songs for our Planet!
Although I was fairly young at the time, what I remember most about Voyager is a picture. This is how I remember it: after the take off of both crafts, Karl Sagan convinced NASA to turn one craft (can't remember wich one) around and take a picture or the earth and moon in one frame. It shows the bluish earth (Pale Blue Dot?)and the moon on a completely black background. I made a profound impression on me. The picture was published in National Geographic(?). I haven't seen it since and can't find it anywhere. Anybody has any clues?
- A classical violinist playing part of a Bach partita or sonata for solo violin
- Birdsong. Several different birds, e. g. meadowlark, mockingbird, nightingale
- A cat purring, a dog barking . . .
I would put our atmospheric composition, with the different percentages of oxygen, nitrogen, etc. This would let anybody know that this is what it took for life to exist here on earth. This would also help anyone who discovered it to adapt to our atmosphere, gravity, and amount of exposure to sunlight.
I would send this post. We as a race have made technological advances that gave us tools to use, such as SPELL CHECK. I would recommend using it before you put this on the Golden Record to ensure we do not appear to be a race of total idiots.
I would include the "photo" of the cosmic radiaton background taken by WMAP, as seen in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:WMAP.jpg .
A copy of the book "To Serve Man"
Hello, Sorry but I gave you the wrong url for Golden Record images and sounds. My apologies. Go here: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/voyager/goldenrecord-20070816.html and get a sample. At the bottom of that page, you'll find more links that lead to more images and sounds from the Voyager Golden Record.
Susan Watanabe NASA/JPL
I will like to include on the Golden Record, the sound of fast-flowing or rushing or gushing Water e.g., one from a Waterfall with birds chirping and trees whistling in the background.
The combination of these sounds bring me peace and tranquility irrespective of the wars i might be facing within or outside. The sounds remind me of the balance in nature and how beautiful nature in itself, undisturbed by man's activities, is. I tend to face life's challenges better after a view of such scenery.
I want to use this record to say what the Voyager has been in my view: A source of indepth knowledge into nature such that we are able to relate better with our environment and think solutions to threatening forces out there.
Happy Anniversary Voyager............. Bon Voyage!!
As the Lewis Reasearch Center's Launch Vehicle Project Engineer for the Titan/Centaur lauch vehicles, this is a very important anniversary to me. There are so many things that have happened in the past thiry years that it is difficult to pick out a single item, but given a choice, the Internet and all the related communication developments (cell phones, personal computers etc.) would be my choice.
A photo of the Chicago Cubs with the message that they STILL have not won the World Series.
i'd put images and videos of appolo 204 columbia and challenger diasters...photos of our exploration robots on mars..and the cassini project to explore saturn...we'd want to show aliens that we are somewhat capable of exploring our planetary neighbors and the risk we assume in these travels.....and the loss.
How about a tribute for the world trade center
i would add the terrible earth quake of the coast off indonesia, 2005, and put it like a story adding all that we can, about the animals moving inland before it came, the earth shaking on its axis, things like that to make it a complete story.......thanks from canada.....
Carl Sagan was a brilliant visionary but not much of a public relations man.
What good is the message if you don't have an audience?
I would hope that the next time we can do something similar, we will devote a few watts of power to continuously transmit an invitation for anyone listening to rendezvous with the probe and retrieve a copy of the disk!
In fact, wouldn't it be something if "they" retrieved the probe and took it with them? That would be one heck of an effectuve reply message to the NASA controllers when the probe inexplicably changes course!
A little girl looking through a telescope in wide eyed wonder-future astronaut? Also, a group of harleys riding the coast,showing our beautiufl land and sea scapes!
I like #36!
Images and sounds from every significant item on art, as sample of the more noble from humanity.
At least one Louis Armstrong song.
on board should be the latest computer processor, to show "them" our technology of the time.
The human genome as we know it.
Carl Sagan's ashes.
There are precedents: Clyde Tombaugh on New Horizons, Gene Shoemaker on NEAR and Lunar Prospector.
Is nobody worried about the intentions of a species that may view this information? Thay may follow our innocent and diligent directions back to our doorstep and then evict us from our precious planet Earth. When humans meet less intelligent species on this planet we rarely respect them and often put them in zoo's, farm them or displace them for their property so why would we expect to be treated differently?
If their intentions are bad for us I doubt if playing them music will help. Sorry to be a party pooper!
DEAR COSMO BROTHEREN AND EXTRA TERRESTIAL GUEST, PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT TO VISIT THE BLUE PLANET THAT YOU MIGHT SEE ON YOUR COSMOS VOYAGE, WITHIN THE SOLAR SYSTEM. HERE LIVES A FEW BILLION DANGEROUS ANIMILAS THAT CAN WALK ON TWO LEGS, CAN THINK AND EVEN DESIGN ADVANCED MACHINERY LIKE THE ONE YOU SEE NOW. BUT WE ARE DANGEROUS, FIGHT AGAINST EACH OTHER, HAVE NO LOVE, CONDUCT REGULAR WARFARE AND EVEN POSSESS NUCLEAR WEAPONS THAT CAN DISTROY YOUR SPACESHIP.
WITHOUT LOVE AT ALL,
HOMO SAPIENS FROM EARTH.
I'd send the blue marble picture (the earth seen from one of the apollo spacecraft). It's the best recognized picture in the world. It has done a lot to shape our own view of our own world, now let it hopefully show the beauty and fragility of our planet to anyone who might find the record.
Real DNA samples would be destroyed by radiation during such a long flight. Putting the records on CDs and DVDs wouldn't be a good idea, because the best CDs and DVDs only last for about 25 to 30 years.
Daniel :)
Some excellent ideas here so far for a "Message to the Stars". But nobody seems to have addressed yet, how such a message would be received or perceived. The golden record was sent up with sound tracks, but I havent heard if a "gramaphone" accompanied the mission. No doubt that any advanced civilisations out there could eventually figure out that the grooves represent sound tracks, but will they be able to understand them that it takes a needle vibrating an electro magnet, which when amplified will eventually produce the sound. It took humans over 5000 years to come up with the concept of the short lived record player and LP, now we are into CDs, blue ray, and computers. What technology will be available in the next 30 years.
What should be sent up on the next mission is a sort of universal "Rosetta Stone" with the "identical" message in ALL languages,the basic alphabets and hieroglyphics with their equivalences, the periodic table of elements in a graphic format (assumed to be universal), mathematical constants represented numerically and graphically (also assumed to be universal; e.g. pi, e, square root of 2, square root of 3, prime numbers, etc.), and formulary of basic compounds (brass, steel, etc.). The important thing is that it must be instantaneously recognizable as an artificial thing, so, for example pictures must be "hard copy". It is useless to have a picture in a digital format, or otherwise encoded, which would require special equipment, such as a computer with an signal input device, to decode. In short, send a book with gold leaf pages, or other non perishable material up, with text and pictures. Any alien intelligence would instantaneously recognize such an artifact.
I would include a picture about Pizza and an instruction how to cook Pizza.
Anyhow, a few years after the Armageddon's war I hope to pick up the NASA's twin Voyager spacecrafts with my own interceptor starship so I can display them on a Space Museum :)
Periodic Table of Mixology
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Periodic Table of Mixology
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add the following informations:
1. pictures about how humans are doing excercies (aerobic, walking, jogging, running, yoga, tai chi, etc) and keeps their body fit.
2. imaginative aliens pictures/ drawings.
3. some hollywood movies
4. Nature and the mistery of nature (earthquakes, valcanoes, hurricane, etc)
5. species present in Amazon forest
6. 7 wonders of the world
7. Mount everset
8. deepest ocean
9. bermuda triangle
10. antartic region
11. shara desert
12. How voyager is sent/ manufactured
Vishnu Vardhan, India
I think that it would be a good idea to include on the next Golden Record, what is Internet and how to use it. I've read some posts and all are very interesting. But, I mind that all this things are in Internet. Now, for me, the best tool for undertanding the world and people is Internet. This blog is an excellent example of my mind.
Thanks for all. Congratulations and greetings from Catalonia.
hmmm difficult one, this one! what to put in, that in some way, an alien will understand. pure science would be the only answer like a history of our sciences, including our dead ends and mistakes and what our latest theories are (quantum and chaos)dont think photos or anything that tells them how we are or behave would be of any use as they would be by definition,"alien" lets just stick to the facts!
i would put on it this four word poem by sculptor/poet tyler fenn entitled "first sense"-
your pulse
my metronome
1) Religious symbols
2) Diagrams of other interplanetary missions
3) Google stock symbol
4) VA Linux stock symbol
5) Enron stock symbol
4 & 5 may have gone out of business already. Not sure about GOOG.
Did you include the Periodic Table on the original? Some explanation of E=mc2?
I have to agree with those suggestions about including the negative aspects of humanity. Let's be honest.
I also might include some of the worlds more famous documents.
How about one of our best, verified scientific theories, and one of our most stubbornly unsolved scientific problems.
Some explanation of beer. And wine too, I guess.
A good cheesecake recipe.
And a Frank Zappa song.
Post #16, who do you think will be reading your message? No, seriously!!
What is the point in most of the posts suggesting that we are killing each other, and hurting the planet? Are you in a confession booth?
People please read this carefully: Mankind is the most advanced creature in the whole universe. 100% of all people will have to agree, since NO one can prove the existance of anything else! We heard about ET!! lol :p
If we are the most advanced, therefore we are the most responsible. Please, take care of each other, love one another, enjoy learning and exploring. Don't lead each other into darkness!
how about a detailed atlas, so we can show the diversity of Earth and the many countries, ressources,flags,demographics and geography.
It would seem that during the evolution of music in the past 50 years, the most important musician or group of musicians has been The Beetle. They blended rockabilly, folk, jazz, classical, even Indian music together. Therefore, I would add one of their songs to the Golden Record. May I suggest "Here Come's the Sun" or "Strawberry Fields Forever"?
As for a sound? Certainly that of a PC booting up in the office at 9:00am.
And for a picture? That of glaciers melting. Ice will not outlive the Voyager spacecrafts.
What are the chances that the "people" who gets this record has the technology of retrieving the data.
Does it have to be a golden record?
What about an array of the best flash disks we have on earth complete with a panel PC to play it.. You could include any one of the Google Earth like systems of the surface of the entire planet and vast volumes of information on humans, animals, the earth and our planetary and interstellar neighbours.
Im not sure if it can be done yet but Id be sending it on the fastest spacecraft available, one that might overtake voyager 1 within years.
Finally why not a 802.11 like transmitter/receiver (im not saying it would be 802.11) but create an identical one here and plug it into the internet :) We can get our alien friends online.. Sure an instant message conversation might be a little frustrating what with the 5000 year wait between messages but the thought is there and my mum tells me that's what counts..
Hey if the aliens cant laugh then do we really want to talk to them :)
I dont know whether this true or not, but I heard through the grapevine that the original voyager had a recording of some gaida music from Bulgaria. I have been a fan of the music of the Balkans for many years,and have never heard music more beautifully expressive of the divine spirit in man than the music of this region. If you want to find out more. Try consulting the ethnomusicology departments of the various universities. There is also a group in Tel Aviv called Dunav that has a marvelous archive of Balkan music. Is it possible to download a recording of the original voyager golden album? Eric Gaetz. There is a book available called THE URANTIA BOOK that claims to be of superhuman authorship. I realize that this is a big pill to swallow but after reading it with a very skepticle disposition and have finally had to admit that I believe that it is exactly what it claims to be. It contains chapters such as.The Inhabited Worlds,The evolution of local universes, Physical aspects of the local universe, Energy-Mind and Matter, Energy and Matter Transmutations, Terrestrial escape, Worlds of the nonbreathers and much much more. One more year and I would have a degree in Chemistry, so it is with a scientists "Prove it" attitude that I read it. I threw every brick in my arsenal at it and my bricks turned into sand. I would encourage the scientific establishment at NASA to do the same. If they can find any logical explanation to discredit it I would be more than interested. It can bread coverto cover on the net. Eric Gaetz
* all known living creatures DNA from our planet
* a blue ray disc with much more music , sounds and videos ... and ofcourse a player for it hehe ... you think aliens would know how to play a golden record ? it will be so hard for them to understand that it is actually an analog recording ..
Only thing I can think of would be,
Earth: Mostly Harmless
Pictures -- I would choose pictures over other forms of media. If E.T. is really out there somewhere, and the payload actually ended up in his hands, who's to say that he'd possess the technology to play a DVD, a record, or a CD? It'd be safer to assume that he can see. I'd send pictures of this world (mountains, sea, city skylines, humans and animals, various gadgets, etc.). However, I WOULD send a copy of the song "Countdown" by Rush, just on the off-chance that E.T. could somehow play it. The song chronicles one of the most profound accomplishments in human history. And after all... if Geddy, Alex and Neil aren't fitting emissaries of humankind, then who is?!? ;)
The rise of China.
Flat Stanley with instructions to send back a photo.
I agree that the contents already on the record are sufficient for their purpose. I would propose adding a transmitter in the style of Sputnik. Just use the high gain antenna that would be used to communicate with Earth. Once the satellite leaves the solar system, have the antenna dish rotate and start broadcasting a simple, numerically derived signal (think Contact with Jodie Foster) in the direction of its trajectory. This would create a much larger target for another sentient race to detect. Wouldn't we investigate anything that came from deep space and was transmitting a non-organic signal?
Maybe if the satellite crashes on an uninhabited planet, it will have enough residual bacteria to kick-start evolution on that world.
I would show news coverage of the things that show who and what we really are as a civilization. Examples:
Coverage of the Chernobyl nuclear disaster on April 26, 1986 (so they didn't tell anyone for awhile, so what?).
Media coverage of President Clinton's speech, in 1998, claiming, "I did not have sex with that woman."
Coverage of operation Desert Storm on Jan 16, 1991.
Coverage of 911 attacks on WTC.
Coverage of Iraq paying the price for 911.
Coverage of Hurricane Katrina and the speedy cleanup and restoration of New Orleans.
Coverage of Challenger and Columbia.
Coverage of the slaughters in high schools:
Moses Lake, Washington -- 2 students and 1 teacher
Bethel, Alaska -- 1 student and the principal
Pearl, Mississippi -- 2 students & parents of the shooter
West Paduca Kentucky -- 3 students
Jonesboro, Arkansas -- 4 students and one teacher
Edinboro, Pennsylvania - 1 teacher
Pamona, California -- 2 students
Fayetteville, Tennessee -- 1 student
Springfield, Oregon -- 2 students
Littleton, Colorado -- 12 students, 1 teacher and 2 suicides
RED LAKE, Minnesota -- 5 students, 1 teacher, 1 grandfather, 1 friend, 1 suicide.
And, of course...
Coverage of Taylor Hicks winning American Idol.
a picture of a gerbil chasing after a herd of lemmings jumping off a cliff, the entire third season of Inuyasha, an expired drivers licence and noises from the early days of Jerry Springer, "Roseanne's" voice, huge close-up of President Bush's perfect dental job (Jr. not Sr.), the directions to the ALLSPARK!, Alot of 1980's special effects, an entire novel written about how many times Paris Hilton cried while she was in jail, pictures from a slaughter house followed up by a barrage of billboard ads saying "Got Milk?", pictures of Mr. T., the "300" movie (that'll keep em away)
To show how far we've evolved in the past 30 years, send two images of New York City from 1977 and 2007 with the caption: Can you spot the differences?
Why only a picture of human DNA? - Why not some real DNA samples? ;)
- Well.. This is a tricky one.. But I would add:
1. Pictures / Other Data from Earths space missions, to show whoever finds it, how far we have gotten.
2. Pictures / Other Data from wars and material about Earth, and all the problems we have.
3. Pictures of children, teenagers, adults, seniors.
4. New messages from people all around the world.
6. New messages from people all around the world in codes. Ex. Morse.
Thats all I got ;P
I would have to say that you should add on The sounds of cars on a highway or a tollroad of some sorte.
I am sure you have already thought of this... All we have learned of our solor system, and space in general, since 1977
Hello bloggers. A few of you have asked where to get the sights and sounds of the Golden Record. This link http://blogs.nasa.gov/cm/blog/voyager-goldenrecord/posts/post_1187299526389.html will take you to a page with a few samples of what's on the identical records. The bottom of that page gives links to further sights and sounds.
Susan Watanabe NASA/JPL
I'd include Dolphin greetings along with the whale ones. And possibly a statement saying that any future visitors should be careful about who they choose to come into contact with. Also include a request for help in our dependancy on petroleum products. An SOS from Spaceship Earth if you will.
if you ask me, we should send things on the Space Shuttle. if alien lifeforms find ths data, they may be able to recreat at it.
How about a tribute to Carl Sagan and the rest of people that got Voyager of the ground? In recognitions of their vision and the pursuit of knowledge through exploration, recognition of their hope in our future despite the our best efforts to destroy ouselves and this planet.
Now more than ever as we marvel at the discoveries that voyager has returned and the information uncovered about other worlds in our solar system this vehicle of inspiration casts a mirror on what we are doing to our own planet.
- There is still hope to save it.
More cowbell!
I'm not sure why there's such consensus on sending Human DNA. Do otherworld civilizations need it? What for
Let's not debate about the benevolence of potential contacts. Avoid providing otherwise unnecessary information until contact has been made. Is that so hard?
Let's include something regarding the current climate situation.
The ISS is a great way to show that as humans we do collaborate and work together to accomplish hugh successes. Many of the already suggested additions are already on the present record i.e., baby crying, images of people and places on Earth, the location of Earth in the Solar System. etc. However, the following suggestion got my attention and right now I'm not sure why.
On Aug 20, 2007 01:47:06 PM Roshaan wrote:
the NEW golden record should contain the previous SIGHTINGS of UFOs so that alien life forms could identify them IF they were to be from that respective alien creed.
Painting of dogs playing poker.
Not sure if it could be done effectively but I would put on the disc a selection of the earths ethical dilemas of the time.
Since we do not have a full set of human DNA to put on a 'record', how about actual DNA samples from a wide variety of human populations?
On a related topic, please post the contents of the original Voyager record for download on the NASA web site. The published version has been out of print for years, and is VERY difficult to find.
Just had a great thought send frequencies of signals transmitted on Earth then whoever finds the record can tune in to Public television and learn all kinds of stuff.
I would send pictures/blueprints of our technology such as a Desktop computer, the ISS, a Space shuttle, satellite communication and future technology .
I would also be sure to include a record of love and evil on the Earth. When you find a old civilization and you don't know anything about them or you just know the good things it's really annoying, and also all religious texts detail victories and defeats and are followed by most people.
I think videos and video games (simple like pong or checkers) should be sent.
I totally agree with Post#4 and a couple of things expressed by #6.
On the original disks we were selling ourselves as peaceful, loving humans. I would suggest that we wash our dirty laundry at the same time and explain that humans have been killing each other since they came down out of the trees.
Consider where we are today: 'At War for Peace'. On the Global Warming issue all we hear is GROWTH and PROSPERITY. The average human wants peace and freedom but we don't make the rules.
Enjoy todays Sunshine because Dark Clouds loom on the horizon,
Wishing you all Love and Peace,
Andy
A new golden disc should include a pictorial chapter telling the tale of 9/11. Despite the painful negativity, it is a tale of overcoming the shadow of terror and making life better for people, ensuring that the victims did not die in vain.
-The beautiful buildings glistening in the sunlight.
-The approaching jets.
-The ferocious fireballs and billowing smoke.
-The shocked faces on the streets.
-The firemen going upstairs as everyone else goes down.
-The buildings' fall.
-The dazed and dusty faces on the streets.
-The raising of the Flag and the Steel Cross among the rubble.
-The search for survivors.
-The mourning.
-The columns of light.
-The funeral for all unknown/unrecovered victims.
-The new construction at the site.
-The Freedom Tower and WTC Memorial Gardens (or computer generated plans thereof, if not finished).
Thank you for the opportunity to offer a thought on what should be on the next "golden record" that will sent into space.
Why not have a list/reference to the negative things we have on our planet these days;famine, unpredictable weather, religious wars, pollution, ethnic cleansing, etc.
Also, why not add positive comments to the list explaining what we are doing to end the above problems.
Bob Wiseman
Las Vegas, NV
We should put the Human Genome on the next record. Explanations of our RNA/DNA combos, how our cell structure works and what our preferred atmospheric conditions are (environmental requirements)
I would include a picture of our sun with a mathematical explanation that it is dying and that we will be venturing out into space soon. Put out the welcome mat.
hi nasa guys,
I think an impressive addition would be the Hubble Deep Field image, showing how deep humans have already seen in the universe.
Maybe also pictures of the newest and most advanced telescopes on earth.
--> VLT
--> Large Binocular Telescope
video's of both the Challenger and Columbia disasters, with a plea for help on how to do this safer.
images of 11Sept.'01.
It should represent a man and women working the land with several domestic animals arround them.
I'd like to include
1) The various satellites and space lunches that we have conducted
2) The picture of earth as seen from ISS,Moon
3) An artist conception of out solar system and earths position in it , again one more image of our milky way and solar systems position in it.
4) Photos of bridge with Monday morning traffic, steaming factory chimney's, fields of various crops.
5) Photos of interaction between human beings and animals
6) white dove
7) some ancient monuments like pyramids
8) images about previous golden record, Voyager 1, Voyager 2 and there position and path in space.
Thanks
R.Vinodh
I Think Its Really Great Idea. In My Opinion You Should send Few Pictures Of Perfect Nature Which Includes Water Falls Green Grasses, Trees, Birds, Flowers, Animals and Mountains with Blue Sky, Because This Will Show The Perfect Environment of Earth. These Kind Of Picture Will Give An Idea As Well That How Much Animals Are Save and Happy In Their Natural Life. You Should Also Send Pictures Of Our Festivals.
Just give Me a Chance To Select These Pictures, Never Let You Down.
I recommend adding some of our uncracked mathematical problems. You never know if you'll get the sollution
I think there needs to be a updated record made probably with DVD or CD technology.
I think this new record should show all the names of all the people who have died in wars. Especialy now while we are fighting a war . This way thease peoples sacrfices will never be forgatten.
I also think it is important for any alien intelgence to understand how we believe. I think all the religious texts should be included . From A to Z all religions of the world.
It is important for a alien species to see how we love, how we hate and what we believe in. If they can uderstand those concepts. I seriously wonder if we understand this concept (as well) that we are all joined as one common species and we must learn how to co-exist so we can be good stewards of our own world because we have yet to figure out how to live with out our Earth. So people must learn to live togather.
This record will more than likly survive us but at the rate we are going this world is more than likly to be destroyed by human failings. It is like a message in a bottle. Put in something and wait and hope the reciever can understand and want to reach out to us.
How about one of the Radio telescope frequency or one of SETI radio frequency auto playback some sound when a certain figures in the record is press example the triangle and the circle, then combine it with the solar system locator..
We Will Rock You/We Are the Champions by Queen...It came out at the same time as the Voyagers were launched. Plus, the fact that Guitarist Brian May is an astronomer makes a fitting touch.
LS
I would like to submit an urgent request to anyone out here, how to overcome all our human differences, wars, conflicts etc. I do not want to show how okay we are, nor to boost our great accomplishments, but want to request and urgent pledge for intercelestial help.
I would include a photo of a weapon of war.
I think above all we should be honest of our portrayal of humanity.
We spend over half our discretionary budget on 'defense', and yet the
original Golden Record carried no reference of this aspect of us.
It would seem disingenuous to not represent us accurately.
The one item that I would include would be a greeting from Carl Sagan - the man who had the vision and foresight to make this record possible.
Peter Burton, Worcester, UK.
our DNA
The new Golden Record should include a detailed map of how to find us in the universe.
We have collected vast amounts of information about the location of millions of objects in the universe.
We should put it all in reverse, from specific lines through space, so who ever is out there can follow the map back to us.
Maybe they know we are here, but just can't find us, the same way we can't find them.
Brian
I'd add the human genome to the record.
Suggest to include:-
E = mc2
Songs in various laugauges.
Image of computer
Please don't eat us.
Et phone home?
Images from the BBC documentary series "The Blue Planet-Seas of Life."
The latest images of Mars from the rovers Spirit and Opportunity.
Images of the Amazon rain forest, the Florida Everglades, and
the Galapagos Islands (the tortoises).
Caution! Get out of earth! life form very primitive!
I would include photos of all the major bodies in our solar system as well as major natural events (hurricanes, tornados, sunrise/sunset, Northern Lights, waves on a beach, etc.). For sounds, I would include a baby's cry and child's giggle and examples of music that has come out since the original recordings. Evidence of our high tech abilities including personal computers & the International Space Station should be included but only if people are included in the photos.
I propose that a diagram depicting the operation of the semiconductor, with which the human race is nearly instantantly able to communicate and process information in ways no earth creature ever has (so far as we know).
Caution!
The inhabitants of earth are predisposed to settle international complaints through war.
I'd like to see a true reflection of the past 30 years...
The discoveries in science (dark matter, the other advances in physics and chemistry);
Advances in politics (fall of the Berlin wall, fall of communism in Russia, end of aphartheid in S. Africa)
Declines in politics (9/11/2001, The War in Iraq, the N. Korean nuclear crisis...)
I liked the cross cut of life here on earth. One comment I have and I think the people putting the greetings in different language.I think this would be a great stumbling block for someone who was trying to put this all together or make some sense of this mess.If all was in english it would give the finder some assemblance and some common flow.What do you think? If this is done again, just keep it simple. show globel warming,atomic energy our rockets and space program, farms, the auto, things in our everyday life.
Our friend Carl will keep on protecting the twins for billions and billions of miles in his cosmos.
If i have the great opportunity of put something in a new New Golden Record, i think in something like that:
1. The most deeper photo of the universe of the hubble(where you can see the many galaxies)
2. the photo of my family
3. the photo of the earth from the space.
4. A song of love.
5. a pictures of my cat.
6. a peace of different music and language
7. one pictures of people of each country , and map of the division of the word.
8. one pictures and sound from each animal in the planet, and somethings plants.
9. one poema.
10. one oration from all people of the word to God.
11. Some Funny thinks..like jokes..
12. a card to the specie of life that found the Voyager , written in all languages, and in structured mathematical,
13. the genome human sequence
14. the ten orders, and a copy of the bible.
and for the name of the space craft..."Family"
We might want to re-record some of our natural sounds a little more clearly, adding the ocean's surf and more people's voices especially kids. Add voices from scientists and regular guys too. Put my voice on there saying something like this: "Hello from earth. We dream of the stars and we hope to journey out to meet you. We're working on it, slowly. Meanwhile, if you want to find us, look for our spiral galaxy and then find our solar system out on one of the arms, earth is the third from the star we call the sun. You can't miss it. Look for a beautiful blue planet we call home. That's us. We're tough people but we're sort of lonely too. We have a need to explore and find out about things, especially about the stars. We are brave, strong and love freedom. We hope to meet up with you soon. Yours sincerely, a human being from earth."
Maybe include a cell phone number too. They might want to call.
Include genome data for representative life on this planet.
I think there, in the endless universe, are many diferent kind of living creatures, many of them adapted to such a diferent kind of life, that we can only imagine.
Many of them can�t see, others can't hear, and maybe some of them, can't even touch things the way we do, maybe they are 'Energetic' creatures, living and feeding from some energetic source, but all of them are inteligent, what should we do to tell them, Hey here we are! with a Golden Record?.
I can think in many ways of how we should prepare the Golden Record, but I don't have enough place in this blog to do so, so the best I can do for now is let you think about it..
Include the recorded history of the earth's ecology so that one day either we or some being from another time and place will have a record of life's impact on this planet.
1. Since 1977, the greatest change to almost all social circles has been enacted through the use of home computers and cell phones.....document their evolution and apparant conjuction....
2. Pictures and explanations for the International Space Station, as a demonstration of multi national cooperation, especially between the US and Russia.
Yeah, I know...that is more than one.....oh, well, go figure!!!!
i think we should include one of our highest bits of technology, something that signifies the whole world. it could differ from something like a blackberry to something like a lever, all in all it should be something you can find anywhere on Earth.
Recommend enclosing the following quote, "So long and thanks for all the fish."
how about the tearing down of the berlin wall and the fall of communism that followed.
The Golden Record isn't only interesting to potential aliens, finding it and hopefully understanding its content and the intention behind it.
In my opinion it's also a very fascinating time capsule for current and future earthlings.
We could learn, e.g. about some cultural taboos existing at the time of its creation and their change/persistence over time -- at least in the minds of the ones responsible for its content.
As I learned from an interview of one involved with the creation of the Golden Record, they explicitly decided, e.g. not to include a picture or sound of a woman kissing a man (not to mention two men kissing each other...).
I'm curious, if "such" content would still be left out today. As we could see in this blog of the 21st Century there are again some pictures (war, terrorism...), which should not show up on a new Golden Record -- at least in the opinion of some of us (partially including myself ;-)).
So, why not include this blog and a short documentary about the Golden Records creation on the new Golden Record?
Greetings and Congratulations from Munich, Germany!
I want you to include picture data of space shuttle.
I am with Dave in #28 - it would only be fitting for this gold record to contain "Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft" for several reasons - First, because it tells the story that we just wish to be friends with our space neighbors - Secondly, because it's sung by undoubtedly one of the finest female singers of all time, a nice reflection on earthlings - Karen Carpenter - and thirdly, because it is tremendous music - creativity - one of the many works of artistry by genius (and brother of the brother sister duo from Downey California, RICHARD Carpenter) - his penchant for all things musical, (i.e., arranging, writing, recording, overdubbing, playing, singing, etc., etc). This would be a great lesson in the art of "music at its finest" for our friends from other planets.
To put on the Golden Record? How about crowd roars from small arenas up to the large stadiums? The picture of Earth and Mars taken from Jupiter? And, dare I say, a picture of the pyramids? Keep the dreams growing...
The DNA molecule with an evolutionary time line.
I think that one of the most important things the 'Golden Record' should have, is how we expect them to make contact with us.
How we use radial signals to communicate here in earth, and also tell them other ways to make contact with us (specially if that 'other way' has been developed in the last 30 years).
In addition, it would be very important to request them to share their scientific development with us. And specially if it can help us to communicate with them.
Pictures of babies and happy things and marvelous achievements are great and inspirational. I think we forget to tell the whole story if we leave out pictures of arguments, pictures of war, pictures of death and remembrance. We should include pictures of the sick and the old and show how we care for them. I would include pictures of Hiroshima, of the killing fields of mankind, of graveyards and memorials. We should leave a legacy to any other alien culture that we weren't just about pixies and rainbows. We are a civilization and a planet with depth of emotion and passion. We are able to disagree and fight and survive the worst we can throw at each other. It is our courage in the face of adversity that makes us a planet worth remembering.
An image of the yin/yang symbol would be appropriate.
With current data storage technology the number of images / sounds could be nearly limitless.
I agree that an some sort of explanation of our curren level of technology ouwld be important to include. This would be made more relevant if it could be paired with some form of elasped time counter that would give a reference of how long in the past "now" was to anyone in the future viewing it.
I think it is important to attempt to give an understanding of what humans are.....what they believe....what has been accomplished.....what is important to us as a species......
Given the sizes we have today, I would change the record to a memory chip, or some kind of high storage capacity, and in it store the whole Encyclopedia Britannica; I concur with others that we should also include the "space" story, the views of the Solar system planets, with pictures of Earth with "We are here" arrows. I think also programs could be included to view pictures, play sounds and songs.
All assuming beings out there can see light waves and listen to sound waves, all physical stuff.
Or all could be lost as a target practice item for some warfare prone beings (and if you do not know where that comes from, go back to the corner for an hour to think about it).
LeoTheTuscan
photo showing the main stages of human development showing how we give birth, childhood, adulthood and then death. BK
the one item to include in the new golden record would be: