{ 1998/09/10 TIME: 12-15 , Thu. 105TH SENATE, SECOND SESSION}

{ NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT OF THE SENATE PROCEEDINGS.}


           WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MINDFUL, ALWAYS MINDFUL THATLARGE AMOUNTS
           OF MONEY AND DECISION-MAKING OF GOVERNMENT ARE THINGS THAT WE
           HAVE TO BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL ABOUT. NOW WE DO ALLOW SOME
           CONETRY BUGSS. WE DO HAVE A SYSTEM IT TAKES MONEY TO RUN
           CAMPAIGNS AND ALL OF THAT AND WE CAN ARGUE OVER THE ATS AND SO
           FORTH, BUT HARDLY EVER, IF EVER, HAVE ANYBODY REALLY IN THIS

{12:15:41} (MR. THOMPSON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           COUNTRY CARRIED ON A SERIOUS DEBATE ESPOUSEING THE IDEA THAT
           ALL BETS OUGHT TO BE OFF  THAT ANY PIG CORPORATION OR LABOR
           UNION CAN GIVE ANY AMOUNT THEY WANT TO REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR
           NOT THEY HAD LEGISLATION PENDING. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, HOW IN
           THE WORLD DID WE GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY?
           WHERE I SAY THERE ARE NO LIMITATIONS ANYMORE. NOW YOU HAVE TO
           JUMP THROUGH A FEW HOOPS AND YOU HAVE TO BE HYPOCRITICAL,KNOW
           BIG HURDLE TO OVERCOME, AND YOU HAVE TO RUN IT THROUGH THE
           RIGHT KIND OF COMMITTEE AND SO FORTH, AND YOU HAVE TO WORDED

{12:16:13} (MR. THOMPSON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           WORD THE AD CORRECTLY AND A FEW OTHER THINGS A HUNDRED YEARS
           FROM NOW SOMEBODY WILL LOOK BACK ON AND LAUGH AT AS TO HOW WE
           EVER HAD A DEAL LIKE THIS, BUT ESSENTIALLY WHETHER YOU ARE
           RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT NOW, OR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S CURRENT
           INTERPRETATION, WHETHER YOU ARE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT NOW,
           MEMBER. UNITED STATES SENATE, YOU CAN BASICALLY TAKE ANY AMOUNT
           OF MONEY OR GET THE BENEFIT OF ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM
           ANYWHERE INCLUDING THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD. NOW THAT HASN'T
           BEEN FULLY PUSHED YET, BUT I ASSURE YOU THAT UNLESS THINGS

{12:16:49} (MR. THOMPSON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           CHANGE, THAT WILL BE THE NEXT SHOE TO DROP. THERE ARE PEOPLE
           ARGUING IN COURTS IN THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW THAT THERE IS NO
           LIMITATION UNDER CURRENT LAW ON FOREIGN CONTRIBUTIONS, FOREIGN
           SOFT MONEY CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR POLITICAL PARTIES. SO THAT'S
           THE NEXT STEP. SO HOW DID WE GET -- SO HOW DID WE GET HERE?
           IF CONGRESS, IF WE AS A PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MINDFUL OF THIS
           PROBLEM AND CONGRESS HAS LEGISLATIVELY SET UP A RESTRICTIVE

{12:17:20} (MR. THOMPSON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           FRAMEWORK, THEN HOW DID WE GET TO WHERE WE ARE?
           WELL, IT IS REALLY PRETTY SIMPLE WHEN YOU DISTILL IT ALL DOWN.
           IT HAPPENED OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. BUT ESSENTIALLY THE F.E.C.,
           THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION, DECIDED TO OPEN UP A LITTLE
           SOFT MONEY CRACK AND SAID PARTIES CAN USE A LITTLE SOFT MONEY
           IN THEIR PARTY-BUILDING ACTIVITIES. THEN THEY WENT FURTHER AND
           SAID WELL PARTIES CAN USE SOME SOFT MONEY, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE

{12:17:52} (MR. THOMPSON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           OF SOFT MONEY IN THEIR TV ISSUE ADS. WHAT HAPPENED THEN, THE
           CLINTON CLINTON/GORE CAMPAIGN TOOK THAT CRACK AND RAN A SHERMAN
           TANK THROUGH IT. AND BASICALLY SAID NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO DO
           THAT, BUT WE ARE GOING TO TOTALLY COORDINATE THAT ENTIRE
           ACTIVITY ACTIVITY. SO IT WON'T BENDEPENDENT AT ALL. WE WILL
           SIGN THE CERTIFICATION THAT WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC FINANCING AND
           NOT RAISE MORE MONEY BUT WE WILL PRETEND E. TEND THIS IS REALLY

{12:18:29} (MR. THOMPSON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           NOT MONEY FOR OUR CAMPAIGN --

{12:18:39 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR'S 20 MINUTES ARE UP.

{12:18:42 NSP} (MR. THOMPSON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. THOMPSON: I WANT TO ASK FOR MORE TIME.

{12:18:45 NSP} (MR. FEINGOLD) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. FEINGOLD: WE HAVE ONLY 16 MINUTES FOR OTHER SENATORS. THAT
           WOULD CREATE SOME DIFFICULTY. UNLESS I COULD ASK UNANIMOUS
           CONSENT THAT AN ADDITIONAL TEN MINUTES BE ADD TODAY OUR SIDE.

{12:19:03 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE OBJECTION?
           WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO OBJECT.

{12:19:08 NSP} (MR. FEINGOLD) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. FEINGOLD: MR. PRESIDENT, I SUGGEST SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A
           QUORUM.

{12:19:11 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WOULD YOU WITHHOLD THAT REQUEST?

{12:19:14 NSP} (MR. FEINGOLD) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. FEINGOLD: YES, I WOULD.

{12:19:18 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM KENTUCKY.

{12:19:20 NSP} (MR. MCCONNELL) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. MCCONNELL: WHAT IS THE CONSENT AGREEMENT.

{12:19:23 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE REQUEST WAS FOR MR. FEINGOLD TO ADD
           TEN ADDITIONAL MINUTES TO HIS SIDE FOR THE DEBATE.

{12:19:30 NSP} (MR. MCCONNELL) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. MCCONNELL: THERE BY MAKING THE VOTE LATER?

{12:19:36 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THAT WOULD BE THE EFFECT, YES.

{12:19:41 NSP} (MR. MCCONNELL) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. MCCONNELL: RESERVING THE RIGHT TO OBJECT.

{12:19:45 NSP} (MR. FEINGOLD) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. FEINGOLD: MR. PRESIDENT, IN LIGHT OF SOMETHING I WAS
           INFORMED OF AFTER I MADE MY REQUEST, I WITHDRAW MY UNANIMOUS
           CONSENT REQUEST, AND WOULD SIMPLY YIELD AN ADDITIONAL TWO
           MINUTES TO THE SENATOR FROM TENNESSEE.

{12:20:01 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM TENNESSEE IS RECOGNIZED
           FOR FORE TWO MINUTE

{12:20:09 NSP} (MR. THOMPSON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. THOMPSON: I WAS FOUGHT AWARE THERE WAS A TIME AGREEMENT. I
           APOLOGIZE FOR THE NECESSARY ABBREVIATED NATURE OF THE REST OF
           MY REMARKS. WHICH BASICALLY HAVE TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT WE
           HAVE AN INTERPRETATION NOW BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT PERMITS
           THAT -- THEREIN LIES PART OF THE PROBLEM FOR THOSE WHO ADVOCATE
           CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM, BECAUSE THOSE WHO HAVE ADVOCATED IT

{12:20:41} (MR. THOMPSON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           HAVE IN SOME CASES LOST THE HIGH GROUND. THE PRESIDENT LOST HIS
           HIGH GROUND BECAUSE OF HIS BEHAVIOR. I MUST SAY AFTER OUR
           HEARINGS WHERE WE SAW FOREIGN MONEY COMING IN, PEOPLE TAKE
           BEING THE FIFTH AMENDMENT, ACCESS TO THE WHITE HOUSE, SHAKE
           DOWNS WITH REGARD TO AMERICAN INDIANS AND BUDDHIST NUNS, USE OF
           THE WHITE HOUSE, SETTING PEOPLE UP?
           POSITIONS THAT WITH CLASSIFIED INFORMATION AND THEN RAISING
           MONEY AND ALL. COVER UP ATTENDANT TO THAT, THAT WHILE WE NEED

{12:21:12} (MR. THOMPSON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           TO ADDRESS THAT FROM A CAMPAIGN FINANCE STANDPOINT FOR THE
           FUTURE, WE HAVE FOUGHT ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED WHAT'S GONE ON IN
           THE PAST. AND WHEN WE LOOK AROUND FOR BLAME TO ASSESS WITH
           REGARD TO THE TACT THAT WE CAN'T MOVE THIS LEGISLATION, WE HAVE
           NOT GET TO COME TO TERMS WITH THE FACT THAT THOSE WHO WANT TO
           REFORM CAN FOUGHT JUST BE CONTENT WITH SAYING ALL WE NEED IS
           REFORM LET'S FORGET ABOUT THE PAST. WE HAVE FOUGHT ADEQUATELY
           ADDRESSED THE PAST. AND THOSE WHO HAVE LET THOSE THINGS GO BY
           WITHOUT BLOWING THE WLIS HE WILL ON THEM OR WITHOUT SEEING

{12:21:43} (MR. THOMPSON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           ANYTHING WRONG WITHOUT SAYING THAT IS WRONG CONDUCT AS WE SAW
           FOR THE LAST YEAR IN THIS COUNTRY AND WITH REGARD TO OUR
           HEARINGS, HAVE LOST THE MORAL HIGH GROUND WITH REGARD TO THIS
           LEGISLATION. I AM HOPING WE CAN DO BETTER IN THE FUTURE. I
           THINK THOSE OF US WHO WANT REFORM HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT YES,
           WE NEED TO SCEN UP THE PAST, BUT WE CANNOT LET THAT HOMED US
           HOSTAGE TO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN THE FUTURE. THOSE OF US WHO
           PROMOTE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT BEFORE

{12:22:16} (MR. THOMPSON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           WE CAN REALLY HAVE IT, WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE JUSTICE FOR THE
           PAST. I THINK -- I THANK THE PRESIDENT AND YIELD THE FLOOR.

{12:22:25 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM WISCONSIN.

{12:22:28 NSP} (MR. FEINGOLD) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. FEINGOLD: IN LIGHT THE FACT WE HAVE LIMITED TIME. ANY TIME
           THAT IS OPEN HERE, QUORUM CALL TIME, BE CHARGED TO THE OTHER
           SIDE.

{12:22:32 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE OBJECTION?

{12:22:32 NSP} (MR. MCCONNELL) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. MCCONNELL: MR. PRESIDENT?

{12:22:39 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM KENTUCKY.

{12:22:43 NSP} (MR. MCCONNELL) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. MCCONNELL: MR. PRESIDENT, I -- WHAT WAS THE UNANIMOUS
           CONSENT REQUEST?

{12:22:47 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE UNANIMOUS CONSENT REQUEST WAS THAT
           ANY QUORUM CALLS WOULD BE CHARGED EXCLUSIVELY TO THE TIME UNDER
           THE CONTROL OF THE SENATOR FROM KENTUCKY.

{12:22:55 NSP} (MR. MCCONNELL) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. MCCONNELL: I OBJECT.

{12:22:57 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: OBJECTION IS HEARD.

{12:22:59 NSP} (MR. FEINGOLD) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. FEINGOLD: MR. PRESIDENT, I SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM.

{12:23:03 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.
           
           
           
           QUORUM CALL: MR. FEINGOLD: MR. PRESIDENT?

{12:23:10 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM WISCONSIN.

{12:23:13 NSP} (MR. FEINGOLD) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. FEINGOLD: I ASK THAT FURTHER PROCEEDINGS UNDER THE QUORUM
           CALL BE DISPENSED WITH. MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK THE TIME BE
           EQUALLY DIVIDED WITH REGARD TO THE QUORUM CALL.

{12:23:20 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE OBJECTION?
           WITHOUT OBJECTION.

{12:23:24 NSP} (MR. FEINGOLD) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. FEINGOLD: MR. PRESIDENT, I SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. MR. WELLSTONE: MR. PRESIDENT?
           I WOULD ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THE QUORUM CALL BE SUSPENDED.

{12:23:31 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WHAT WAS THE REQUEST?

{12:23:35 NSP} (MR. WELLSTONE) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. WELLSTONE: I ASK THE QUORUM CALL BE DISPENSED WITH.

{12:23:36 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.

{12:23:41 NSP} (MR. WELLSTONE) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. WELLSTONE: I MIGHT ASK MY COLLEAGUE FROM WISCONN WHETHER I
           MIGHT SPEAK FOR ABOUT TEN MINUTES.

{12:23:46 NSP} (MR. FEINGOLD) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. FEINGOLD: MR. PRESIDENT, I INFORM THE SENATOR FROM
           MINNESOTA I ONLY HAVE A TOTAL OF 16 MINUTES REMAINING. MR.
           MCCAIN WOULD LIKE SOME TIMEMENT IF THE SENATOR WOULD LIKE TO
           SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES. I YIELD THREE MINUTES TO THE SENATOR
           FROM MINNESOTA.

{12:23:58 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM WISCONSIN IS TO BE
           ADVISED YOU HAVE 11 MINUTES 45 SECOND REMAINING. THE SENATOR
           FROM MINNESOTA IS RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

{12:24:05 NSP} (MR. WELLSTONE) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. WELLSTONE: MR. PRESIDENT, I HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK YESTERDAY
           FOR ABOUT HALF AN HOUR, SO LET ME JUST TRY AND SUM RYE THIS
           WAY. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK SENATOR FEINGOLD WHO I THINK
           JUST EMERGED AS REALLY A LEADING REFORMER HERE ON THE FLOOR OF
           THE UNITED STATES SENATE FOR HIS WORK ALONG WITH SENATOR
           MCCAIN. THIS IS A BIPARTISAN EFFORT -- AND I FRANKLY THINK IT
           SPEAKS TO THE CORE ISSUE. WHAT I TRIED TO SAY YESTERDAY ON THE

{12:24:35} (MR. WELLSTONE) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           FLOOR OF THE SENATE IS THAT AS I THINK ABOUT A WHOLE RANGE OF
           QUESTIONS, OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN I COME BACK TO THE FACT
           THAT TOO FEW PEOPLE HAVE WAY TOO MUCH WELT, POWER AND SAY, AND
           TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE JUST LOCKED OUT. THE POLLS SHOW THAT PEOPLE
           WANT TO HAVE FAITH IN OUR POLITICAL PROCESS. PEOPLE WANT TO
           BELIEVE IN WHAT WE ARE DOING, BUT I THINK THE CONCLUSION THAT
           MANY PEOPLE HAVE REACHED IS THAT IF YOU PAY, YOU PLAY, AND IF
           YOU DON'T PAY YOU DON'T PLAY. BASICALLY THE SAME INVESTORS

{12:25:07} (MR. WELLSTONE) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           CONTROL BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES. THEY CONTROL THE POLITICAL
           PROCESS. SO MANY PEOPLE IN MINNESOTA AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY
           HAVE REACHED THE CONCLUSION THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR
           CONCERNS ABOUT THEMSELVES AND ABOUT THEIR FAMILIES AND ABOUT
           THEIR NEIGHBORS AND ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITIES, THAT THEIR
           CONCERNS ARE OF LITTLE CONCERN HERE IN THE CORRIDORS OF POWER.
           I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER THING FOR US TO DO THAN TO PASS THIS
           PIECE OF LEGISLATION. THE SHAYS-MEEHAN BILL PASSED IN THE HOUSE
           OF REPRESENTATIVES. THAT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT VICTORY. WE NOW

{12:25:39} (MR. WELLSTONE) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           HAVE AN IMPORTANT VOTE ON THE FLOOR OF T SENATE. THERE IS AN
           EVIDENT ON THE PART OF THOSE OPPOSE TODAY REFORM TO BLOCK THIS.
           THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. WE HAVE A MAJORITY. WE HAVE
           MAJORITY SUPPORT ON THE FLOOR OF THE UNITED STATES SENATE. I
           HOPE THAT OTHER SENATORS WILL STEP FORWARD AND SUPPORT THIS
           IMPORTANT PIECE OF LEGISLATION, THIS IMPORTANT AMENDMENT,
           INTRODUCED BY SENATOR MCCAIN AND FOR FEINGOLD. AS A THE SENATOR
           FROM MINNESOTA, A GOOD GOVERNMENT STATE, A PROGRESSIVE STATE, A
           STATE THAT CARES ABOUT CLEAN MONEY AND CLEAN ELECTIONS, A STATE

{12:26:10} (MR. WELLSTONE) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THAT BELIEVES INTEGRITY AND THE POLITICAL PROCESS IS THE MOST
           IMPORTANT THING THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON, THIS PIECE OF
           LEGISLATION, THIS AMENDMENT, IS THE MOST IMPORTANT AMENDMENT
           THAT WE WILL BE VOTING ON DURING THIS SENATE. SO I HOPE MY
           COLLEAGUES --

{12:26:29 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA'S THREE
           MINUTES HAVE EXPIRED.

{12:26:31 NSP} (MR. WELLSTONE) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. WELLSTONE: I YIELD THE FLOOR.

{12:26:33 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM WISCONSIN.

{12:26:36 NSP} (MR. FEINGOLD) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. FEINGOLD: THE FACT THAT WE HAVE LITTLE TIME REMAINING I ASK
           ANY TIME UNDER SUBSEQUENTLY QUORUM CALL NOT BE CHARGED AGAINST
           OUR TIME. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

{12:26:46 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: AS A THE SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA, I
           LAUNCH AN OBJECTION.

{12:26:50 NSP} (MR. FEINGOLD) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. FEINGOLD: MR. PRESIDENT, I AM ABOUT TO PUT IN A QUORUM CALL
           BUT I AM GOING TO ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO USE
           OUR REMAINING TIME NEAR THE CONCLUSION OF THIS DEBATE. WE HAVE
           HOW MUCH TIME REMAINING?

{12:27:07 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM WISCONSIN HAS CONTROL
           OF 8 MINUTES, 40 SECONDS.

{12:27:11 NSP} (MR. FEINGOLD) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. FEINGOLD: I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT WE BE PERMITTED TO
           USE THAT TIME JUST PRIOR TO THE END OF THE DEBATE.

{12:27:18 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: AGAIN AS A THE SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA I
           HAVE TO OBJECT. I CAN EQUALLY DIVIDE THE TIME -- NO I CAN'T.
           OBJECTION IS HEARD.

{12:27:31 NSP} (MR. FEINGOLD) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. FEINGOLD: MR. PRESIDENT, I SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. WELL BELL MR. PRESIDENT?
           MIGHT I ASK TEN SECONDS TO GET AND INTERNSHIP ON THE FLOOR?
           I WOULD ASK FOR A MOMENT THE QUORUM CALL BE DISPENSED WITH.

{12:27:40 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED, THE
           SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA.

{12:27:48 NSP} (MR. WELLSTONE) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. WELLSTONE: I WOULD ASK THAT SHAWN O'BRIAN FROM MY OFFICE BE
           ALLOWED ON THE FLOOR TODAY.

{12:27:59 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. WHO
           REQUESTS TIME?

{12:28:02 NSP} (MR. WELLSTONE) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. WELLSTONE: MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A
           QUORUM.

{12:28:06 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. THE SENATOR DOES NOT
           HAVE CONTROL OF THE TIME. THE SENATOR FROM WISCONSIN?
           WHO SEEKS TIME?

{12:28:16 NSP} (MR. FEINGOLD) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. FEINGOLD: MR. PRESIDENT?

{12:28:20 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM WISCONSIN. YOU HAVE
           CONTROL OF TIME ON THE FLOOR.

{12:28:26 NSP} (MR. FEINGOLD) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. FEINGOLD: I SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM, AND ASK THAT
           IT BE EQUALLY DIVIDED.

{12:28:27 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: IS THERE OBJECTION?
           WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.
           
           
           
           QUORUM CALL:

{12:29:53 NSP} (MR. BUMPERS) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. BUMPERS: MR. PRESIDENT?

{12:29:56 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS.

{12:29:59 NSP} (MR. BUMPERS) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           MR. BUMPERS: I ASK FURTHER PROCEEDINGS UNDER THE QUORUM CALL BE
           RESCINDED.

{12:30:00 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }

           THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT
{END: 1998/09/10 TIME: 12-30 , Thu.  105TH SENATE, SECOND SESSION}

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