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IF THE COMPANY SAYS, NO, NO MOONLIGHTING, THE WORKERS IN OUR
PARTICULAR SHOP CAN ONLY WORK ON ONE JOB -- WE WANT THAT FOR
BUSINESS PRACTICES BECAUSE WE MIGHT NEED TO HAVE THE WORKERS
WORK A SECOND SHIFT OR A THIRD SHIFT AND, THEREFORE, WE DON'T
WANT YOU WORKING IN SOME OTHER KIND OF CAPACITY -- THEY CAN DO
THAT. AND THEREBY EXCLUDE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THEY APPARENTLY
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ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT. THAT HAPPENS IN THE SUPREME COURT
DECISION. THE ARCHITECTURAL GLASS OF 1997. IT SAYS THEY CAN
EFFECTIVELY BAN ALL KINDS OF MOONLIGHTING IF THEY HAVE A
COMPANY-WIDE POLICY SO PEOPLE CAN'T BELONG TO OR PARTICIPATE IN
OTHER KINDS OF EMPLOYMENT. THEY ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT IT, THEY
CAN DO THAT -- THEY CAN DO THAT NOW. THAT'S A WAY FOR THEM TO
TRY AND DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE IF THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
EMPLOYERS CAN ALSO DISCIPLINE OR DISCHARGE EMPLOYEES WHO
NEGLECT THEIR JOB DUTIES. WORKERS WHO LEAVE THEIR STATIONS OR
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SIMPLY DON'T COMPLETE THE WORK REQUIRED OF THEM CAN BE
DISCIPLINED. IN APRIL 1997 HE FOURTH CIRCUIT OF APPEALS UPHELD
AN EMPLOYERS RIGHT TO DISCHARGE WORKERS WHO FAILED TO CARRY OUT
THEIR DUTIES. THE WORKERS NEGLECTED THEIR DUTIES AND TRIED TO
PERSUADE CO-WORKERS TO JOIN THE UNION. THE COURT HELD THAT THE
EMPLOYER WAS WELL WITHIN HIS RIGHT TO FIRE THE WORKERS FOR POOR
PERFORMANCE. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, MR. PRESIDENT?
THEY HIRE SOMEONE, BASICALLY A SHAM THAT THE PERSON ISN'T
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INTERESTED IN WORK; WON'T WORK, CAN'T DO THE WORK. THE SUPREME
COURT HAS HELD UNDER THE HESS MECHANICAL IN THE FOURTH CIRCUIT
1997 THAT THEY CAN FIRE THE WORKERS WHO NEGLECT THEIR JOB
DUTIES. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO THE WORK FOR WHICH THEY ARE
WIRED, IF THEY ARE NOT QUALIFIED FOR THE JOB, THEY DON'T NEED
TO BE HIRED. IF THEY ARE QUALIFIED FOR THE JOB, THEY ARE HIRED,
THEY WORK. IF THEY DON'T WORK AND THEY'RE BUSY INVOLVING
THEMSELVES IN THESE OTHER KINDS OF ACTIVITIES ACTIVITIES, THEY
CAN BE FIRED. THAT IS THE SUPREME COURT DECISION TODAY. TODAY.
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UNION MEMBERSHIP DOES NOT GIVE WORKERS THE RIGHT NOT TO PERFORM
THE JOB. A COMPANY CAN SUSPEND WORKERS WHO FAIL TO PERFORM
ADEQUATELY. THAT I PAY CAN BE DOCKED. DISCIPLINARY LETTERS CAN
BE PLACED IN THEIR PERSONNEL FILES. EMPLOYERS CAN USE ALL OF
THESE TOOLS OR MORE TO GET THE JOB DONE. THEY ARE FAR FROM
POWERLESS TO ADDRESS THE TYPES OF ABUSES CITED BY THE BILL'S
SUPPORTERS. EMPLOYERS ARE ALSO FREE TO DISCIPLINE WORKERS WHO
DISRUPT THE JOB, HARASSING CO-WORKERS OR CUSTOMERS OR BLOCKING
ENTRANCES, INTRUDING IN OTHER WORK AREAS, ALL THESE ACTS
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CONSTITUTE GROUNDS FOR DISCIPLINE. EMPLOYERS HAVE MANY WAYS TO
MAINTAIN QUALITY, EFFICIENCY PRODUCTIVITY WITHOUT UNDERMINING
THE PLOSE' LEGITIMATE RIGHTS. IF THE MISCONDUCT IS EXTREME,
EMPLOYERS CAN CALL THE POLICE. VIOLENCE, THREATS, INTIMIDATION,
CRIMINAL OFFENSES, DAMAGING OR DESTROYING PROPERTY IS A CRIME.
NO EMPLOYER NEEDS TO SIT IDLY BY. CRIMINAL CHARGES CAN BE
FILED. THE DEFENDANT CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE WORK SITE. THESE
SANCTIONS ARE IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER DISCIPLINARY
MECHANISMS AVAILABLE TO THE EMPLOYER. ONCE AGAIN, UNION
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MEMBERSHIP CONFERS NO IMMUNITY. THIS BILL SUPPORTERS CONTEND
UNION MEMBERS INHERENTLY SUFFER FROM DIVIDED LOYALTIES. THEY
CLAIM A UNION MEMBER SIMPLY CANNOT BE TRULY LOYAL TO THE
EMPLOYER -- CANNOT GIVE THE EMPLOYER THE GENUINE ALLEGIANCE
REQUIRED FOR AN EFFECTIVE AND PRODUCTIVE WORKPLACE. BUT THAT
EXTREME ANTIWORKERS, ANTIUNION VIEW WAS REJECTED OVER 60 YEARS
AGO WHEN CONGRESS PASSED THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS ACT. THE
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SO-CALLED DIVIDED LOYALTY ANTIUNION CLAIM WAS USED BY COUNTLESS
HARSH EMPLOYERS TO DENY THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS OF WORKERS AND
CONGRESS TO PUT A STOP TO IT IN THE 1930'S. MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL
INCLUDE IN THE RECORD VARIOUS LETTERS THAT I HAVE FROM A NUMBER
OF
COMPANIES: FROM COAST ELECTRIC, "TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN." HERE
INDIVIDUALS -- COMPANIES THAT HAD BEEN ASSAULTED -- AND THIS IS
THEIR REACTION TO IT. "MY COMPANY WAS SALTED BY A MEMBER OF AN
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IBW PAT MENGANO FOR PURPOSE OF ORGANIZING. THE WORK COMPLETED
WAS OF TOP QUALITY AND WE MAINTAINED A FRIENDSHIP. GIVEN THE
THOUGHT TO THE IDEA OF BECOMING A SIGNATORY CONTRACTOR PRIOR TO
THIS EVENT DUE TO THE INABILITY TO HIRE QUALIFIED PEOPLE.
SALTING ACTIVITY CONVINCED ME THE DECISION TO BECOME A
SIGNATORY WAS THE RIGHT ONE. HAVING A RELIABLE, QUALIFIED WORK
FORCE AT ONE'S FINGERTIPS GOES A LONG WAY TO ERASE SOME OF THE
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PROBLEMS IN A STRESSFUL BUSINESS. THANK GOD I'M A UNION
CONTRACTOR. CENTRAL SIERRA ELECTRIC COMPANY. IN RESPONSE TO OUR
CONVERSATION HERE IS MY OPINION CONCERNING THE BENEFITS AND
DRAWBACKS. AS YOU KNOW, CENTRAL SIERRA COMPANY HAS BEEN IN
BUSINESS 14 YEARS, BEEN A SIGNATORY WITH I.B.W. FOR THE PAST
TWO YEARS. LISTED BELOW ARE WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE AMONG THE
UNION STRENGTHS. EXTREMELY HELPFUL, GETTING QUALIFIED MANPOWER,
NOTIFIED US OF NUMEROUS JOBS, GIVEN OUR NAMES TO DEVELOPERS AND
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MANUFACTURERS. LOOKING FOR QUALIFIED CONTRACTORS, ASSIST IN
GETTING JOBS WHEN COMPETING AGAINST NONUNION JOBS. ELECTRIC
COMPANY IN MOUNTAIN VIEW, CALIFORNIA, 2296 MORA DRIVE. I WAS
FORMERLY A NONUNION FIRM, RECENTLY ORGANIZED BY THE USE OF
UNION SALTS BY A COUPLE OF IBEW'S IN CALIFORNIA. AFTER THEY
MADE IT KNOWN TO ME THEY WERE AFFILIATED WITH THE UNION, IT
BECAME APPARENT TO ME THEIR SKILLS COULD ONLY HELP ME TO BECOME
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A BETTER CONTRACTOR. YOU SEE, THE FACT IS, MR. PRESIDENT, WHEN
THEY DO HAVE THE SALTING, THEY SEND THEIR BEST PEOPLE INTO
THESE COMPANIES. IT WILBE REPRESENTED THA THEY DON'TAND THEY
SEND PEOPLE THERE THAT ARE DISRUPTIVE AND HARASS AND BREAK UP
THE SHOP, SO TO SPEAK. THEY SEND THEIR BETTER PEOPLE IN THERE
TO BE AN EXAMPLE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO CONVINCE PEOPLE TO
BECOME UNION MEMBERS. IF THEY AREN'T ABLE TO CONVINCE THE
PEOPLE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BECOME IT. BUT THAT HAPPENS TO BE
THE EXPERIENCE, MR. PRESIDENT. I'LL GO ON WITH SOME OF THESE
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OTHERS WHEN I CONCLUDE. THE PRINCIPLE OF BASIC FAIRNESS WAS
REAFFIRMED IN THE TOWN AND COUNTRY CASE IN 1992 DECIDED BY THE
NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD COMPOSED OF MEMBERS APPOINTED BY
PRESIDENT REAGAN AND PRESIDENT BUSH. IN THAT CASE, NLRB
REJECTED THE EMPLOYEES' CLAIM THAT PAID UNION ORGANIZERS ARE
NOT EMPLOYEES. UNDER THE LABOR LAWS -- AND THEY ARE INCAPABLE
OF POSSESSING THE REQUISITE LOYALTY TO THE EMPLOYER. THE BOARD
RULED THE STATUTE IS -- STATUTE IS FOUNDED ON THE BELIEF THAT
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THE EMPLOYEE MAY GIVE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNION AND EMPLOYER. IT
IS TO THE EXTENT IT GIVES RIGHTS TO A CONFLICT, IT WAS LONG
SINCE THE UNION'S ABILITY TO ORGANIZE. THE COURTS DESCRIBE THE
ISSUE
AS FOLLOWS: CAN A WORKER BE A COMPANY EMPLOYEE WITHIN THE TERMS
OF THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS ACT IF AT THE SAME TIME THE
UNION PAYS THE WORKER TO HELP ORGANIZE THE COMPANY. THE COURT
HELD WE AGREE WITH THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD. THE
ANSWER IS IS YES. THE COURT NOTED IT PROTECTS THE EMPLOYEES
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RIGHT TO ENGAGE IN UNION ACTIVITIES IN NONWORKING AREAS. WE
UNDERSTAND THAT, MR. PRESIDENT. THEY ARE ONLY ENTITLED TO
PROMOTE AND TO TRIPE AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO INVOLVE -- TO TRY
TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO INLVE THEMSELVESN UNION ACTIVITIES IN
NONWORKING TIME IN NONWORKING AREAS. OTHERWISE, THEY CAN BE
DISCIPLINED. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NONWORKING TIME IN
NONWORKING AREAS. THAT'S KEY, MR. PRESIDENT. THE DECISION
EXPLAINED THAT THIS IS TRUE EVEN IF A COMPANY PERCEIVED THESE
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PROTECTED ACTIVITIES AS DISLOYAL. AFTER ALL, THE EMPLOYER HAS
NO LEGAL RIGHT TO REQUIRE THAT AS A PART OF HIS OR HER SERVICE
TO THE COMPANY, A WORKER REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING IN PROTECTED
ACTIVITY. MR. PRESIDENT, THE BILL BEFORE US -- THE SENATE
DESTROYS THIS PROTECTION. IT LET'S EMPLOYERS FORCE WORKERS TO
RENOUNCE THEIR RIGHT TO ENGAGE IN LEGITIMATE, LAWFUL
ACTIVITIES. BUSINESSES CAN DISCHARGE EMPLOYEES WHO ATTEMPT TO
ORGANIZE THEIR CO-WORKERS TO JOIN A UNION OR PROTEST DANGEROUS
WORKING CONDITIONS, UNFAIR PAY PRACTICES IN RACE OR SEX
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SCRTIPLGS. THIS LEGISLATION TAKES A GIANT STEP BACKWARD. IT
LEGITIMATEIZES CONDUCT OUR SOCIETY HAS CONDEMNED. IT IS HARD TO
BELIEVE THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP IS GIVING MISGIND --
MISGUIDED ANTIWORKER BILL SUCH HIGH PRIORITY NEAR THE END OF
THE CONGRESS. I AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET LEGISLATION
UP ON PATIENTS PROTECTION SO WE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
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DEBATE THAT I SHALL SHOE BEFORE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO RECESS AND,
NO, THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP SAYS NO TO PATIENT PROTECTIONS,
WHICH IS OF CENTRAL CONCERN TO MORE THAN 160 MILLION AMERICANS
WHO ARE IN VARIOUS HEALTH MAINTENANCE ORGANIZATIONS. AND WHAT
DO WE HAVE ON THE FLOOR OF THE UNITED STATES SENATE?
THE SALTING LEGISLATION. WE COULD ASK HOW MANY MEMBERS OF THIS
BODY ON EITHER SIDE HAVE READ THROUGH THIS LEGISLATION,
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UNDERSTOOD IT; SCHEDULED AT THE CLOSE OF BUSINESS LAST FRIDAY
FOR A CLOTURE VOTE TODAY. THIS EVENING. WE COULD BE DEBATING
THE PATIENTS' PROTECTIONS DURING FRIDAY OR, IF NECESSARY,
SATURDAY OR ALL DAY TODAY. I BET YOU'D HAVE TWO-THIRDS OF THE
MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES SENATE HERE NOW INSTEAD OF TWO
MEMBERS IF WE WERE DEALING WITH THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.
TWO-THIRDS OF THEM, BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE KIND OF CONCERN THAT
FAMILIES HAVE ABOUT THE ABUSES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE IN TOO
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MANY INSTANCES IN OUR NATION WHERE IT'S INSURANCE ACCOUNTANTS
AND AGENTS MAKING DECISIONS ON HEALTH CARE THAT OUGHT TO BE
MADE BY DOCTORS. WHY AREN'T WE DEBATING THAT INSTEAD OF AN
ANTIWORKER PIECE OF LEGISLATION?
IT'S AMAZING, MR. PRESIDENT, HOW THIS IS -- THE SILENCE FROM
OUR LEADERSHIP. NO, THEY SAY, YOU CAN ONLY HAVE THREE
AMENDMENTS. YOU EITHER HAVE TO HAVE YOUR BILL OR OUR BILL OR
TWO OTHER POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP
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THE TIME. WELL, HERE IT IS. TWO MEMBERS OF THE SENATE HERE. AND
WE'RE MOVING OFF THIS BILL TO CONSIDER THE INTERIOR
APPROPRIATIONS LATER IN THE AFTERNOON. THEY'RE GOING TO BE
SCARCE IF THEY GET ANOTHER COUPLE OF SENATORS ON VARIOUS
AMENDMENTS ON THAT. ALL RIGHT, MR. PRESIDENT, HOW MUCH TIME DO
I HAVE?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR HAS 7 MINUTES, 45 SECONDS
REMAINING.
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MR. KENNEDY: I'LL YIELD MYSELF -- I'LL RESERVE THE BALANCE OF
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MY TIME. MR. HUTCHINSON: MR. PRESIDENT?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM ARKANSAS.
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MR. HUTCHINSON: HOW MUCH SIDE DO OUR SIDE HAVE?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR HAS 11 MINUTES, 56 SECONDS.
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MR. HUTCHINSON: AFTER LISTENING TO SENATOR KENNEDY, I FEEL I
SHOULD START BY CHECKING TO SEE IF I HAVE HORNS OR THEY OUGHT
TO BE REMOVED. I WASN'T SURE WHETHER WE WERE DEBATING MINIMUM
WAGE, COMPTIME, DAVIS-BACON OR SUMMER JOBS PROGRAM. I KNOW THAT
WHILE THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE'RE SPENDING
ON WHAT SENATOR KENNEDY FEELS IS AN INAPPROPRIATE BILL, THE
TOTAL AMOUNT OF TIME DESIGNATED AND AGREED UPON IS TWO AND A
HALF HOURS EQUALLY DIVIDED ON THIS CLOTURE MOTION. I THINK THAT
THE THOUSANDS OF SMALL BUSINESSES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY AND THEIR
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OWNERS AND THEIR FAMILIES, THIS IS CERTAINLY WORTH TWO AND A
HALF HOURS ON THE FLOOR OF THE UNITED STATES SENATE. AND I KNOW
TO MANY BUSINESSES IN THE STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS, IT'S
CERTAINLY WORTH THE TIME THAT WE'RE DEVOTING TO THIS SUBJECT
TODAY. WHILE SENATOR KENNEDY MAY BE CONCERNED THAT PEOPLE HAVE
NOT READ THE BILL, IT'S THREE AND A HALF PAGES LONG, AND I
SUSPECT THAT ANY SENATOR BETWEEN NOW AND THIS EVENING WILL HAVE
TIME NOT ONLY TO STUDY IT AND TO -- AND TO STUDY ITS IMPACT BUT
ALSO PERHAPS TO READ SOME OF THE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF
LETTERS THAT EVERY SENATOR IN THIS BODY HAS RECEIVED ON THIS
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SUBJECT. BUT FOR THE SAKE OF THOSE WHO MAY NOT HAVE TIME TO
READ WHAT I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT IN THIS BILL, I WANT TO
READ IT FOR THE SAKE OF MY COLLEAGUES AND THE SAKE OF THE
MANAGER OF THE OTHER SIDE. BECAUSE WHILE PART THE BILL WAS
QUOTED, A BIG PART OF THE BILL WAS NOT CITED.
AND IT IS THIS: "PROVIDED THAT THIS PROVISION SHALL NOT AFFECT
AFFECT" -- LET ME -- "THIS PROVISION SHALL NOT AFFECT THE
RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER THIS ACT OF ANY EMPLOYEE WHO
IS OR WAS A BONA FIDE EMPLOYEE APPLICANT INCLUDING THE RIGHT OF
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SELF-ORGANIZATION TO FORM JOINT OR ASSESSED LABOR ORGANIZATIONS
TO BARGAIN COLLECTIVELY THROUGH REPRESENTATIVES OF THEIR OWN
CHOOSING AND TO EMERGE IN OTHER CONCERTED ACTIVITIES FOR THE
PURPOSE OF COLLECTIVE BARGAINING OR OTHER MUTUAL AID OR
PROTECTION." THAT IS LANGUAGE DIRECTLY FROM THE NATIONAL LABOR
RELATIONS ACT, AND WE SAY THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS BILL THAT CAN
POSSIBLY INFRINGE UPON THE RIGHT OF A WORKER TO DO WHAT THEY'VE
ALWAYS DONE. SALTING HAS NOT BEEN AN ACCEPTED PRACTICE.
DISRUPTING THE WORKPLACE, CAUSING ECONOMIC DAMAGE, SEEKING TO
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DESTROY ONE'S EMPLOYER HAS NEVER BEEN AN ACCEPTED ORGANIZING
STRATEGY IN THP COUNTRY, NOR SHOULD IT BE. AND THAT'S ALL THIS
LEGISLATION WOULD RESTRICT. I WOULD SUGGEST WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
FAMILIES THAT WE REALIZE THAT SMALL BUSINESSMEN AND WOMEN IN
THIS COUNTRY HAVE FAMILIES TOO, THAT THEY ARE WORKERS TOO. AND
TO INVEST A LIFETIME BUILDING A SMALL BUSINESS, BUILDING JOBS
AND ECONOMIC FUTURE FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES, TO HAVE THAT DESTROYED
BY THIS INSIDIOUS PRACTICE IS INDEFENSIBLE. AND I'M AMAZED THAT
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ANYBODY WOULD STAND AND DEFEND THE PRACTICE OF SALTING. NOW, WE
HEARD A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES. I THINK THAT MISCHARACTERIZE
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