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{09:30:41 NSP} (PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE: THE SENATE WILL COME TO ORDER. THE
CHAPLAIN WILL NOW DELIVER THE OPENING PRAYER.
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THE CHAPLAIN: LORD OF ALL LIFE, YOU HAVE GIVEN US THE HOURS OF
THIS DAY TO WORK FOR YOUR GLORY BY SERVING OUR NATION. REMIND
US THAT THERE IS ENOUGH TIME TODAY TO DO WHAT YOU WANT US TO
ACCOMPLISH. RELEASE US FROM THAT RUSHED FEELING WHEN WE
OVERLOAD THE AGENDA WITH THINGS WHICH YOU MAY NOT HAVE INTENDED
FOR US TO CRAM INTO TODAY. HELP US TO LIVE ON YOUR TIMING.
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GRANT US SERENITY WHEN WE FEEL IRRITATED BY TRIFLING
ANNOYANCES, BY TEMPORARY FRUSTRATION, BY LITTLE THINGS TO WHICH
WE MUST GIVE TIME AND ATTENTION. MAY WE DO WHAT THE MOMENT
DEMANDS WITH A HEART OF READINESS. GIVE US THE COURAGE TO CARVE
OUT TIME FOR QUIET THOUGHT AND CREATIVE PLANNING TO FOCUS OUR
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ATTENTION ON THE BIG THINGS, ON THOSE IMPORTANT THUNGS WE MUST
DECIDE AND EVENTUALLY VOTE ON WITH A DECISIVE VOTE. HELP US TO
BE SILENT, TO WAIT ON YOU, TO RECEIVE YOUR GUIDANCE. MAY THE
PEOPLE WE SERVE AND THOSE WITH WHOM WE WORK SENSE THAT, IN THE
MIDST OF THE STRAIN AND STRESS OF POLITICAL LIFE, WE'VE HAD OUR
{09:32:34} (THE CHAPLAIN) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
MINDS REPLENISHED BY LISTENING TO YOU. IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD.
AMEN.
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THE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE: THE ABLE ACTING MAJORITY LEADER, THE
DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON STATE, IS RECOGNIZED.
{09:33:08 NSP} (MR. GORTON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, THIS MORNING THE SENATE WILL
IMMEDIATELY RESUME CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2646, THE COVERDELL A+
EDUCATION BILL. UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDER, THIS SENATOR WILL BE
RECOGNIZED AT
9:30 A.M. TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT WITH RESPECT TO BLOCK GRANTS.
MEMBERS WHO HAVE REMAINING AMENDMENTS TO THE COVERDELL BILL ARE
ENCOURAGED TO COME TO THE FLOOR TO OFFER AND DEBATE THOSE
AMENDMENTS. SENATORS ARE REMINDED THAT ANY VOTES ORDERED THIS
MORNING WITH RESPECT TO PENDING AMENDMENTS WILL BE STACKED TO
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OCCUR AT APPROXIMATELY 3:00 P.M. FURTHER VOTES CAN BE EXPECTED
THROUGHOUT TODAY'S SESSION. AS WE ATTEMPT TO COMPLETE ACTION ON
THIS IMPORTANT PIECE OF LEGISLATION. MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS THE
MESSAGE FROM THE MAJORITY LEADER, AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE
LAST POINT. IT'S HIS INTENTION THAT WE FINISH ALL AMENDMENTS
AND THE DEBATE ON FINAL PASSAGE OF THIS BILL BEFORE THE END OF
THE SESSION TODAY, SO THOSE WHO HAVE AMENDMENTS SHOULD COME TO
THE FLOOR AND OFFER THEM IN ORDER AFTER THE DEBATE ON MY OWN IS
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COMPLETED. AND NOW, MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK RECOGNITION IN ORDER
TO PRESENT AN AMENDMENT.
{09:34:27 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDER, THE LEADERSHIP
TIME IS RESERVED. UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDER THE SENATE WILL NOW
RESUME CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 2646, WHICH THE CLERK WILL REPORT.
{09:34:42 NSP} (THE CLERK) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE CLERK: CALENDAR NO. 227, H.R. 2646, AN ACT TO AMEND THE
INTERNAL REVENUE CODE OF 1986 TO ALLOW TAX-FREE EXPENDITURES
FROM EDUCATION INDIVIDUAL HE RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS FOR ELEMENTARY
AND SECONDARY SCHOOL EXPENSES AND SO FORTH AND FOR OTHER
PURPOSES.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDER, THE SENATOR
FROM WASHINGTON, MR. GORTON, IS RECOGNIZED TO OFFER AN
AMENDMENT REGARDING BLOCK GRANTSS IN WHICH THERE SHALL BE 30
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MINUTES EQUALLY DIVIDED. MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON.
{09:35:08 NSP} (MR. GORTON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
MR. GORTON: I UNDERSTAND IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESK AND I ASK
FOR ITS IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL REPORT.
{09:35:16 NSP} (THE CLERK) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE CLERK: THE SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON, MR. GORTON, PROPOSES AN
AMENDMENT NUMBERED 2293.
{09:35:20 NSP} (MR. GORTON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT FURTHER
READING BE DISPENSED WITH.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.
{09:35:27 NSP} (MR. GORTON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
MR. GORTON: AND, MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK THAT THE FOLLOWING
SENATORS BE LISTED AS ORIGINAL COSPONSORS OF THE
AMENDMENT: SENATOR FRIST, SENATOR HAGEL, SENATOR MACK, SENATOR
COVERDELL, SENATOR HELMS, SENATOR BOB SMITH, SENATOR DOMENICI,
SENATOR NICKLES AND SENATOR GREGG.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: SO ORDERED, WITHOUT OBJECTION.
{09:35:54 NSP} (MR. GORTON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, LAST FALL DURING THE DEBATE OVER THE
LABOR-EDUCATION APPROPRIATIONS BILL, I INTRODUCED AN AMENDMENT
TO CONSOLIDATE MORE THAN A DOZEN FEDERAL AID PROGRAMS FOR
EDUCATION FROM KINDERGARTEN THROUGH 12TH GRADE INTO A SINGLE
BLOCK GRANT WITH THE BLOCK GRANT GOING TO EACH INDIVIDUAL
SCHOOL DISTRICT ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. THE AMENDMENT HAD
THREE GOALS -- TO SEE TO IT THAT EACH SCHOOL DISTRICT RECEIVES
MORE MONEY THAN IT DOES AT THE PRESENT TIME BY SENDING DIRECTLY
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TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS MONEY NOW KEPT BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
EDUCATION FOR ADMINISTRATIVE PURPOSES AND MONEY KEPT BY STATE
EDUCATIONAL AGENCIES FOR ADMINISTRATIVE PURPOSES. THE SECOND
GOAL, MR. PRESIDENT, WAS TO REDUCE THE FLOOD, THE BLIZZARD, OF
PAPERWORK IMPOSED ON ALL OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY WITH RESPECT TO DOZENS -- PERHAPS EVEN HUNDREDS -- OF
SEPARATE PROGRAMS DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY AIMED AT THE EDUCATION
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OF OUR CHILDREN BETWEEN KINDERGARTEN AND 12TH GRADE. THE THIRD
RAND PHILOSOPHICAL REASON FOR THE AMENDMENT WAS THE BELIEF THAT
THE PROFESSIONAL EDUCATORS, THE PARENTS, AND THE ELECTED SCHOOL
BOARD MEMBERS IN EACH STATE AND SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THIS COUNTRY
HAD THE EDUCATION OF THEIR CHILDREN CLOSE TO THEIR HEARTS AND
REALLY KNEW IN EACH COMMUNITY MORE ABOUT WHAT THE CHILDREN OF
THAT COMMUNITY REQUIRED IN CONNECTION WITH EDUCATION POLICY
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THAN DID ANY PERSON IN WASHINGTON, D.C., WHETHER A BUREAUCRAT
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION OR A UNITED STATES SENATOR IN
THIS BODY. PERHAPS THE MOST DIFFICULT CONCLUSION FOR ANY OF US
HERE TO REACH IS THAT MAYBE WE DON'T KNOW AS MUCH AS DO PEOPLE
AT HOME ABOUT THE IMMEDIATE PROBLEMS AND CHALLENGES THAT THEY
FACE IN A WIDE RANGE OF AREAS, IN THIS CASE MOST PARTICULARLY,
EDUCATION. AND SO IT WAS AN ATTEMPT TO ALLOW 10,000 FLOWERS TO
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BLOOM TO ALLOW EACH INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL DISTRICT FAR MORE
DISCRETION THAN IT HAS AT THE PRESENT TIME TO DETERMINE WHERE
FEDERAL AID COULD BEST BE USED. AFTER ALL, MR. PRESIDENT, WE
ONLY COME UP WITH 6% TO 8% OF THE MONEY THAT OUR SCHOOLS SPEND.
WE DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO COME UP WITH 50% OR 60% OF THE RULES
AND REGULATIONS AND FORMS WITH WHICH OUR SCHOOLS MUST CONTEND.
THAT BURDEN LESSENS THE ABILITY OF TEACHERS TO TEACH AND
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ADMINISTRATORS TO ADMINISTER, AND SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS TO SET
POLICIES. SOMEWHAT TO MY SURPRISE, THAT AMENDMENT WAS PASSED
BAY VOTE OF 51-49. IT WAS OBJECTED TO PARTLY ON SUBSTANTIVE
GROUNDS AND PARTLY ON PROCEDURAL GROUNDS THAT IT HAD NOT BEEN
THE SUBJECT OF HEEGS, THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES WAS
UNCOMFORT NELABLE WITH IT THE PRESIDENT WAS OPPOSED. AND IT WAS
EVENTUALLY DROPPED IN THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE ON THAT
APPROPRIATIONS BILL. SINCE THEN, HOWEVER, IT HAS BEEN A MATTER
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OF MAJOR DISCUSSION AMONG SCHOOL OFFICIALS ALL ACROSS THE
UNITED STATES. IT'S BEEN THE SUBJECT OF HEARINGS HERE IN THE
UNITED STATES SENATE CONDUCTED BY MY DISTINGUISHED FRIEND AND
COLLEAGUE, SENATOR FRIST FROM TENNESE, ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS. I
HAVE SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS TALKING TO EDUCATORS ON THE SUBJECT
AND LISTENING TO BOTH THEIR PRAISE AND TO THEIR CONCERNS. AS A
CONSEQUENCE, THIS AMENDMENT IS SOMEWHAT CHANGED FROM THE
PREVIOUS AMENDMENT. THIS AMENDMENT WILL LAST FOR FIFETE YEARS,
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BUT ITS EFFECTIVE DATE WILL BE DELAYED IN ORDER TO GIVE THE
PEOPLE OF EACH STATE A VERY REAL CHOICE IN THE WAY IN WHICH
THEY RECEIVE THEIR FEDERAL AID FOR EDUCATION. WE HEARD THE
REPRESENTATIVE OF AT LEAST ONE STATE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT SAY
THAT HE LIKED THE PRESENT SYSTEM. WE HEARD SEVERAL STATE SCHOOL
SUPERINTENDENTS SAY HOW MUCH MORE THEY CAN DO WITH THE MONEY
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DRAMATICALLY TO REFORM EDUCATION POLICY IF THE MONEY CAME TO
EACH OF THE 50 STATES, TO THEIR GOVERNOR OR TO THEIR
SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS. AND MANY OF THE OUTSIDE
INTELLECTUALS AND ACADEMICS IN THE FIELD OF EDUCATION FEEL THAT
IT IS AT THE STATE LEVEL THAT TRUE EDUCATIONAL REFORM IS TAKING
PLACE. AND WE HEAR FROM MANY SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS -- I HEAR
FROM MANY OF THEM IN MY OWN STATE AND SO DO OTHER MEMBERS --
THAT THEY LIKED MY ORIGINAL PROPOSAL TO GET RID OF BOTH
BUREAUCRACIES AND ALLOW EACH INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL DISTRICT TO MAKE
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THESE DECISIONS. SO THIS AMENDMENT GIVES EACH STATE A CHOICE.
THE STATE LEGISLATURE IN THE NEXT YEAR MAY ELECT TO CONTINUE
THE PRESENT SYSTEM. IT MAY ELECT TO TAKE THE MONEY AT THE STATE
LEVEL, GOING THROUGH WHATEVER EDUCATIONAL ESTABLISHMENT THAT
STATE HAS ESTABLISHED. OR IT MAY ELECT, EITHER POSITIVELY OR BY
TAKING NO ACTION, TO ALLOW THE MONEY TO GO DIRECTLY THROUGH TO
SCHOOL DISTRICTS. SENATOR FRIST WILL OFFER A SECOND-DEGREE
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AMENDMENT ALLOWING THAT CHOICE TO BE RESCINDED OR TO CHANGE,
THE AMENDMENT I THINK FRIENDLY TO THE PROPOSITION. AS A
CONSEQUENCE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE
PROPOSAL I MADE LAST YEAR IS A SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT TO
EDUCATION, WHETHER THE BEST SYSTEM IS ONE IN WHICH EACH STATE
MAKES ITS OWN CHOICES, MUCH AS WE'VE DONE WITH RESPECT TO
WELFARE REFORM, OR WHETHER THE PRESENT SYSTEM IS BEST BECAUSE
THERE WILL BE STATES THAT MAKE EACH OF THESE THREE DECISIONS. I
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HOPE THAT THIS WILL TURN THIS PROPOSAL INTO A BIPARTISAN
PROPOSAL. I'M NOT SURE WHY ANYONE SHOULD OPPOSE THAT TRIPLE
OPTION, ALLOWING A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING THINGS. ONLY IFWE
REGARDED THE PRESENT EDUCATION SYSTEM AS PERFECT SHOULD WE
REJECT AN EXPERIMENT OF THIS SORT. THE SECOND OBJECTION, THE
SECOND APPREHENSION THAT WAS CLOSE TO UNIVERSAL WAS THE
PROPOSITION THAT IF WE WENT TO A BLOCK GRANT, IF WE COMBINED
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ALL OF THESE IDEAS INTO A BLOCK GRANT THAT CONGRESS WOULD
IMMEDIATELY LOSE INTEREST IN EDUCATION AND THE BLOCK GRANT
WOULD INEVITABLY HE DECLINE AND THAT THE MONEY WOULDN'T BE
THERE FOR SKOOFMTS -- FOR SCHOOLS. I BELIEVE THE INTEREST IN
EDUCATION HERE TO BE HIGH ENOUGH SO THAT THAT WOULD NO HAVE
TAKEN PLACE, BUT THE CONCERN WAS VERY REAL. IN RESPONDING TO
THAT CONCERN, WE HAVE HE EA SET AUTHORIZATION LEVELS FOR THE
FIVE YEARS DURING WHICH THIS EXPERIMENT WILL TAKE PLACE, EACH
OF WHICH RISES MODESTLY IN EACH OF THOSE YEARS CONSISTENT WITH
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THE BALANCED BUDGET AGREEMENT AND THE PROJECTIONS OF THE FREEZE
UNDER WHICH DISCRETIONARY SPENDING WILL OPERATE. AND THIS
PROPOSAL SAYS THAT IF WITHIN A YEAR WE DOOP MEET THAT
AUTHORIZATION LEVEL -- WE DON'T MEET THAT AUTHORIZATION LEVEL,
THE WHOLE EXPERIMENT FALLS AND ENDS AND WE GO BACK TO THE
PRESENT SYSTEM. SO WE'VE GUARANTEED NOT ONLY A CONTINUATION OF
EFFORT, WE'VE GUARANTEED A MODEST INCREASE IN THAT EFFORT OVER
THE YEARS. AND FINALLY, WE HAVE A HOLD HARMLESS UNDER WHICH THE
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SCHOOL DISTRICTS SAY THAT NO SCHOOL WILL RECEIVE LESS MONEY IF
THEY ELECT ONE OF THE TWO SYSTEMS OTHER THAN CONTINUING THE
STATUS QUO THAN THEY WOULD HAVE RECEIVED OTHERWISE. WITH A
DISTRIBUTION OF TITLE 1 MONEY BASED ON THE NUMBER OF TITLE 1
ELIGIBLE STUNDZE STUDENTS, FUNDAMENTALLY BILINGUAL MONEY BASED
ON THE NUMBER OF BILINGUAL STUDENTS AND A DISTRIBUTION OF THE
BALANCE ON THE BASIS OF THE PROSPERITY OR POVERTY OF A GIVEN
STATE. SO, MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK WE HAVE SOMETHING VERY
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POSITIVE FOR EDUCATION HERE, A SYSTEM THAT WILL GET MORE MONEY
INTO THE CLASSROOM, WILL ALLOW MORE EXPERIMENTATION, WILL ALLOW
US TO FIND OUT WHETHER THE PRESENT SYSTEM IS THE BEST SYSTEM WE
CAN COME UP WITH OR A STATE-BASED SYSTEM OR A LOCAL-BASED
SYSTEM. AND SO AT THIS POINT, MR. PRESIDENT, I'D URGE MY
COLLEAGUES OF BOTH PARTIES TO LOOK AT THIS VERY CAREFULLY, NOT
TO JUDGE IT NECESSARILY ON THE BASIS OF THE WAIT IN WHICH THEY
JUDGED LAST YEAR'S PROPOSAL, BUT JUDGE IT ON THE BASIS OF
WHETHER OR NOT
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