SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
259 AM PDT FRI JUL 27 2007
.SHORT TERM (TODAY-SUNDAY)...EDDY CIRCULATION IS ATTEMPTING TO
DEVELOP EARLY THIS MORNING. BENEATH THE HIGH LEVEL MOISTURE FROM
LAST EVENINGS CONVECTION...LOWER LEVEL STRATUS CLOUDS CAN BE SEEN
DEVELOPING ON FOG PRODUCT IMAGERY ALONG THE ORANGE AND SAN DIEGO
COUNTY COASTLINES. MARINE INTRUSION SHOULD MAKE THE SOUTHERN MOST
LOS ANGELES COUNTY BEACHES BY DAYBREAK...BUT INTRUSION INTO THE
VENTURA COUNTY COASTS AND THE MALIBU AREA MAY BE INHIBITED AT THIS
TIME.
A FAIRLY DECENT SURGE OF MOISTURE IS OCCURRING THIS MORNING OVER
RIVERSIDE AND IMPERIAL COUNTIES. CONCERN IS THAT THIS SURGE MAY
BECOME MORE WIDESPREAD. GFS 600 MB RELATIVE HUMIDITY DATA
PINPOINTED THE AREAS OF CONVECTION QUITE NICELY YESTERDAY. IF GFS
600 MB RELATIVE HUMIDITY PATTERN IS CORRECT TODAY...SAN GABRIEL
MOUNTAINS SHOULD SEE CONVECTIVE STORMS FIRE OVER THE TERRAIN. IT
IS POSSIBLE THAT SOME OF THE CONVECTION COULD SPREAD A LITTLE
FURTHER NORTH AND WEST INTO THE VENTURA COUNTY MOUNTAINS. 850 MB
AND 700 MB MIXING RATIO DATA CERTAIN INDICATE THAT ENOUGH MOISTURE
IS PRESENT TO FORM CONVECTION...WITH SLIGHT HIGHER MIXING RATIOS
FORECASTED RELATIVE TO YESTERDAY.
POPS HAVE BEEN INCREASED ALSO FOR SATURDAY...AND IF MODELS ARE
CORRECT THIS COULD BE ONE OF THE BETTER DAYS FOR CONVECTION TO
FIRE OVER THE MOUNTAINS AS SOUTHWEST FLOW IS WEAKEST AND MOISTURE
AT LOWER AND MIDDLE LEVELS STARTS TO INCREASE.
MODELS STRUGGLING A BIT TO PIN DOWN WHAT MAY HAPPEN FOR THE
REMAINDER OF THE WEEKEND. WITH TROPICAL STORM DALILA TO THE
SOUTH...THERE IS A HUNCH THAT THE AREA SHOULD SEE MOISTURE SLOWLY
INCREASING THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND. BOTH MODELS ARE HINTING AT SOME
PORTION THE REMAINS OF THE TROPICAL SYSTEM PUSH NORTH THROUGH THE
COASTAL WATERS. GFS IS INDICATING THAT THE CIRCULATION CENTER PUSH
OVER THE AREA SUNDAY. MAIN CONCERN IS THAT FLOW ALOFT MAY BE TOO
STRONG SOUTHWESTERLY AND DRY OUT THE AIRMASS. CONVECTION IF ANY
SHOULD REMAIN LIMITED TO THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS ON SUNDAY.
.LONG TERM (MONDAY-THURSDAY)...MODELS ARE STILL STRUGGLING ON
MODELING THE REMAINS OF TROPICAL STORM DALILA. THE UPPER-LEVEL
CIRCULATION EXITS THE AREA BY MONDAY...BUT THE MODELS STRUGGLE
WITH THE LOWER-LEVEL PLUME. RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY IS QUITE
LOW...SO VERY LITTLE CONFIDENCE SHOULD BE PLACED WITH ANY POPS FOR
MIDWEEK. NAM SEEMS TO BE VERY AGGRESSIVE WITH MOISTURE...BUT
BASED ON THE FORECASTED UPPER-LEVEL HIGH CENTER...AREA SHOULD BE
DRIER AND MORE STABLE. GFS AND ECMWF ARE BOTH INDICATING ANOTHER
POSSIBLE SURGE OF MOISTURE FOR LATE NEXT WEEK. POPS HAVE BEEN
EXTENDED TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS...BUT WITH MODEL PERFORMANCE LACKING
IN THE MEDIUM RANGE...LITTLE CONFIDENCE EXISTS AT THIS TIME.
&&
.AVIATION...27/0930Z...LATEST ACARS AND PROFILER DATA NEAR KLAX
INDICATED RELATIVELY STRONG INVERSION NEAR 800 FT. CHANCES ARE
THAT SOME LOW CLOUDS AND FOG...SOME DENSE COULD DEVELOP FROM NEAR
ORANGE COUNTY AND MOVE NORTHWARD TOWARD LA COUNTY IMMEDIATE
COASTAL AREAS BY SUNRISE. NOT TOO CONFIDENT HOWEVER THAT THIS WILL
OCCUR. AREAS S OF POINT CONCEPTION SHOULD REMAIN IN VFR CATEGORY
TODAY....WITH SOME LOCAL HAZE NEAR SUNRISE FOR A FEW HOURS. N OF
POINT CONCEPTION...LOW CLOUDS IN LIFR CIGS CAT AND SHOULD LOWER TO
IFR TO LIFR VSBYS BY EARLY MORNING HOURS AT KSMX AND KSBP THIS
MORNING WITH BURNOFF NEAR 17Z TODAY. KPRB COULD ALSO SEE LIFR/IFR
CIGS BEFORE DAWN...BUT ONLY MODERATE CONFIDENCE FOR THIS TO OCCUR.
KLAX...EXPECT MOSTLY SUNNY SKIES WITH LOW CONFIDENCE OF STRATUS NEAR
THE IMMEDIATE COAST OF KLAX BY SUNRISE. IF STRATUS DOES OCCUR...IT
SHOULD REMAIN IFR CIGS AND VSBYS THROUGH 9 AM. TYPICAL SEABREEZE
PATTERN TODAY WITH WINDS GENERALLY BELOW 12 KT.
KBUR...VFR CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL...WITH SOME LOCAL HAZE NEAR
SUNRISE. TYPICAL DIURNAL WIND PATTERN.
&&
.LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY (SEE LAXCWFLOX).
&&
$$
PUBLIC...HALL
AVIATION...KAPLAN
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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS MOUNT HOLLY NJ
400 AM EDT FRI JUL 27 2007
.SYNOPSIS...
THE PERSISTENT UPPER LOW NEAR THE GREAT LAKES WILL WEAKEN AND MOVE
EASTWARD AS AN OPEN TROUGH OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THIS PATTERN WILL
KEEP US IN A VERY WARM AND HUMID AIRMASS THROUGH THE WEEKEND. A COLD
FRONT IS EXPECTED TO REACH OUR AREA SUNDAY NIGHT OR MONDAY AND THEN
MOVE SLOWLY OFF TO THE EAST TUESDAY. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD INTO
THE REGION TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY.
&&
.NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/...
EXPECT PRECIP CHANCES TO INCREASE SOMEWHAT LATER TODAY AND TONIGHT AS
UPPER LOW STARTS MOVING...FINALLY. SOME DECENT OMEGA MAY APPROACH
OUR NRN AND WRN COUNTIES BY TONIGHT BUT THERE IS STILL NOT A LOT OF
SUPPORT FOR MORE THAN DIURNAL SHOWERS AND STORMS. HOWEVER, WITH THE
WARM AND HUMID AIRMASS IN PLACE, AREAL COVERAGE MAY BE A BIT MORE
WIDESPREAD THAN THE LAST FEW DAYS. MOS GUIDANCE VARIES QUITE A BIT
WITH THE GFS ABOUT 8-10 DEGREES HIGHER THAN THE NAM. WILL SPLIT THE
DIFFERENCE DUE TO THE GFS OVER-FORECASTING ITS HIGHS OF LATE. OF
COURSE, TEMPS WILL BE HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON CLOUD COVER AS WELL AS ANY
PRECIP WHICH DOES OR DOES NOT FALL.
&&
.SHORT TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY/...
THE UPPER LOW WILL BE ON THE MOVE EASTWARD AND THE ASSOCD SFC CDFNT
WILL APPROACH THE REGION. THE COLD FRONT APPEARS TO GET WASHED OUT
BY SUNDAY AS IT LINGERS OVER THE REGION. THE GFS IS MUCH MORE
ROBUST THAN THE WRF WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SFC LOW IN THE SRN
MID-ATLC STATES. THE CANADIAN HAS A WEAKER LOW FURTHER S. SATURDAY
AND SUNDAY COULD END UP BEING QUITE WET WITH THE PROXIMITY OF THE
FRONT AND UPPER LOW AND A WARM HUMID AIRMASS IN PLACE. IT LOOKS AS
IF THIS WILL BE THE PERIOD WITH THE BEST CHANCES OF A MORE
WIDESPREAD RAIN RATHER THAN JUST DIURNAL SHOWERS/STORMS. WILL HOLD
OFF ON SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASING POPS OVER THE WEEKEND UNTIL PERHAPS
WE HAVE A BETTER HANDLE ON WHICH PERIODS LOOK WETTEST. WILL MAKE
SOME UPWARD TWEAKS ATTM THOUGH. THE BEST OMEGA IS GENERALLY IN THE
NRN AND WRN ZONES AND THERE ARE MULTIPLE S/WVS THAT COULD OR COULD
NOT MOVE THROUGH DURING THIS TIME. MODELS DIFFER GREATLY ON HIGH
TEMPERATURES WITH THE GFS MUCH WARMER THAN THE NAM. WE WILL GO
MIDDLE OF THE ROAD SINCE THE GFS HAS BEEN OVER FORECASTING HIGHS
RECENTLY.
&&
.LONG TERM /SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY/...
THERE IS SOMEWHAT BETTER AGREEMENT IN THE EXTENDED FCST TONIGHT THEN
THERE WAS LAST NIGHT, BUT STILL SOME UNCERTAINTY. SO WILL NOT BE
MAKING MANY MAJOR CHANGES TO THE EXTENDED. THE COLD FRONT WHICH WILL
APPROACH THE REGION WILL BECOME WASHED OUT AND MOVE VERY SLOWLY OVER
THE REGION. SEVERAL WAVES OF LOW PRESSURE MAY MOVE ACROSS THE
DIFFUSE BOUNDARY SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH EARLY TUESDAY. UNLIKE LAST
NIGHT, WHEN THE GFS WAS ALONE IN DEVELOPING A SFC LOW ACROSS THE
MID-ATLC FROM SUNDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY, THE GFS DOES HAVE SOME
SUPPORT TODAY FROM THE CANADIAN. THIS LOW WOULD KEEP PRECIP CHANCES
INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK, BEFORE IT FINALLY MOVES ON. HOWEVER, THE
UKMET DIFFERS SIGNIFICANTLY WITH A MUCH WEAKER LOW FURTHER S. THE
ECMWF HAS A BARELY IDENTIFIABLE SFC LOW. SO EVEN THOUGH THE
CANADIAN IS IN THE GFS CAMP, WITH THE OTHER MODELS DIFFERING
SIGNIFICANTLY, THIS IS STILL A LOW CONFIDENCE FCST. IT LOOKS LIKE
THERE WILL BE SOME DECENT PRECIP CHANCES SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY
WITH THE UPPER LOW MOVING OVER THE REGION AND SEVERAL S/WVS AS WELL.
ONCE WE GET INTO THE FRONTAL ZONE, SHOWER AND TSTM ACTIVITY WILL
INCREASE, ESPECIALLY IF A WAVE FORM ON THE FRONT. THE TIME PERIOD
HIGH PRESSURE IS THEN EXPECTED TO BUILD IN AROUND MIDWEEK, ACCORDING
TO EVEN THE SLOWEST AND MOST PESSIMISTIC MODELS. TEMPERATURES ARE
EXPECTED TO REMAIN NEAR SEASONAL VALUES THROUGH THE PERIOD.
&&
.AVIATION /06Z FRIDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/...
AT 0730Z, PATCHES OF STRATUS WERE FLOATING OVER OUR REGION. THE
INITIAL DEVELOPMENT OF A LARGE AREA OF STRATUS OVER OUR TAF SITES
ALONG THE DELAWARE RIVER AROUND 04Z AND 05Z WAS A BIT PUZZLING. A
COUPLE OF ACARS SOUNDINGS FROM AROUND THAT TIME WEREN`T SHOWING MUCH
OF A LOW LEVEL TEMP INVERSION. THAT CONTINUED TO BE THAT CASE
AROUND 07Z WITH ANOTHER ACARS SOUNDING.
A WEAK MID LEVEL SHORT WAVE WAS ROTATING UP FROM THE SOUTHWEST IN
THE CIRCULATION AROUND THE LOW THAT WAS LOCATED OVER EASTERN
MICHIGAN DURING THE NIGHT. IT NOW APPEARS AS THOUGH THE APPROACHING
SHORT WAVE WAS STRONG ENOUGH TO MIX THE ATMOSPHERE A BIT, BRINGING
AN END TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF ANY WIDESPREAD STRATUS. AGAIN, WITH
THERE NOT BEING MUCH OF A LOW LEVEL TEMP INVERSION, WE`VE BACKED OFF
A BIT ON THE LOW CONDITIONS FOR EARLY THIS MORNING THAT WERE
ORIGINALLY FORECAST IN THE 06Z TAFS. AMENDMENTS WERE ISSUED AROUND
0720Z.
IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THERE WILL BE A BETTER CHANCE FOR PRECIP TODAY
THAN ON THURSDAY. WITH THE TIMING OF ANY PRECIP BEING UNCERTAIN,
WE`VE CARRIED CUMULONIMBUS IN MOST OF OUR TAFS FROM 19Z ONWARD. THE
ONLY EXCEPTIONS ARE KMIV AND KACY WHERE WE DID NOT CARRY
CUMULONIMBUS BEING THAT IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THOSE LOCATIONS WILL
HAVE A SLIGHTLY LOWER CHANCE FOR PRECIP. THEY ARE A LITTLE MORE
REMOVED FROM THE INFLUENCE OF THE MID LEVEL LOW AND ANY TERRAIN
EFFECTS. THE SOUTH SOUTHEAST FLOW OFF THE OCEAN SHOULD ACTUALLY
HELP KEEP KMIV AND KACY UNDER SOMEWHAT MORE STABLE CONDITIONS FOR
THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING.
THERE WILL BE A CONTINUING CHANCE FOR MAINLY AFTERNOON AND EVENING
SHOWERS AND TSTMS FROM SATURDAY THROUGH MONDAY AS A SLOW MOVING
FRONTAL BOUNDARY FROM THE NORTHWEST DROPS THROUGH OUR REGION.
&&
.MARINE...
A BROAD SOUTH TO SOUTHEAST FLOW IS EXPECTED OVER OUR MARINE AREA FOR
TODAY AND INTO THE WEEKEND, UNTIL A FRONTAL BOUNDARY SLOWLY DROPS
DOWN FROM THE NORTHWEST ON MONDAY. THERE WILL BE AN INCREASING
CHANCE FOR SHOWERS AND TSTMS AS WE GO THROUGH THE WEEKEND.
WIND SPEEDS ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN MOSTLY BELOW 15 KNOTS INTO THE
EARLY PART OF THE NEW WEEK. WAVES ON THE OCEAN WATERS OFF NEW JERSEY
AND DELAWARE SHOULD REMAIN MOSTLY BETWEEN 2 AND 4 FEET.
&&
.PHI WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
PA...NONE.
NJ...NONE.
DE...NONE.
MD...NONE.
MARINE...NONE.
&&
$$
SYNOPSIS...NIERENBERG
NEAR TERM...NIERENBERG
SHORT TERM...NIERENBERG
LONG TERM...NIERENBERG
AVIATION...IOVINO
MARINE...IOVINO
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SEATTLE WA
325 AM PDT FRI JUL 27 2007
.SYNOPSIS...CONTINUED ONSHORE FLOW WILL RESULT IN NIGHT AND MORNING
LOW CLOUDS THROUGH SATURDAY. EXPECT A WEAK FRONT TO BRING A CHANCE
OF LIGHT RAIN OR DRIZZLE TO MAINLY THE COAST SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY
MORNING. DRY WEATHER WITH NEAR NORMAL TEMPERATURES WILL RETURN ON
MONDAY.
&&
.SHORT TERM...BUST - 1. TO BURST. 2. TO GO BANKRUPT. 3. YESTERDAY
MORNINGS FORECAST. ONE MORE TRY THIS MORNING. SATELLITE IMAGERY
SHOWS STRATUS FILLING IN ACROSS MOST OF WESTERN WASHINGTON THIS
MORNING. CROSS CASCADE GRADIENT...WHICH WAS THE MAJOR CONTRIBUTER TO
THE STRATUS HANGING AROUND LONGER THAN EXPECTED YESTERDAY...HANGING
NEAR PLUS 8 MB EARLY THIS MORNING. MODEL CROSS SECTIONS AND ACARS
SOUNDINGS SHOW NOT MUCH FLOW IN THE LOWER LEVELS WITH SOUTHWESTERLY
WINDS 10 KNOTS OR LESS BELOW 850 MB. THIS WILL ONCE AGAIN MAKE IT
HARD FOR THE CLOUDS TO BURN OFF OVER THE INTERIOR UNTIL THE
AFTERNOON HOURS. NOT MUCH CHANGE ON SATURDAY FOR THE INTERIOR WITH
LOW LEVEL ONSHORE FLOW AND CONTINUED STRONG CROSS CASCADE GRADIENT
MAKING IT HARD TO GET RID OF THE MOISTURE BELOW 850 MB. UPPER LEVEL
LOW...CURRENTLY NEAR 52N/148W...WILL SLOWLY MOVE EAST IN THE NEXT
COUPLE OF DAYS. MOISTURE JUST CROSSING 150W WILL HELP JUICE UP THE
FRONT ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOW. FRONT APPROACHES THE COAST ON
SATURDAY THEN MOVES NORTHEAST SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY BRUSHING THE
NORTHWEST INTERIOR. BY SUNDAY AMS OVER WESTERN WASHINGTON SATURATED
UP TO ABOUT 800 MB SO NOT MUCH IN THE WAY ON SUNSHINE FOR SUNDAY.
WILL STAY WITH THE IDEA OF CHANCE POPS ALONG THE COAST AND NORTHWEST
INTERIOR SUNDAY. 500 MB HEIGHTS ARE STILL PRETTY HIGH...MID 570`S
DM...SO EVEN THOUGH MODELS SQUEEZE OUT A FEW HUNDREDTHS CHANCE POPS
LOOK GOOD.
.LONG TERM...LONG TERM PROGS REMAINING CONSISTENT FOR THE FIRST HALF
OF NEXT WEEK WITH WESTERN WASHINGTON IN LIGHT ONSHORE GRADIENTS WITH
A FLAT RIDGE ALOFT. VARYING DEGREES OF ONSHORE FLOW EACH DAY BUT THE
GENERAL IDEA OF MOSTLY SUNNY CONDITIONS AND TEMPS NEAR NORMAL LOOKS
GOOD. ANOTHER LOW DEVELOPS A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH THAN THE ONE FOR
SUNDAY ON THURSDAY NEXT WEEK ACCORDING TO THE MODELS. THIS IS A
SOMEWHAT NEW FEATURE IN THE MODELS. SINCE IT IS DAY SEVEN WILL STAY
WITH PERSISTENCE FOR NOW. FELTON
.AVIATION...STRATUS FORMING PRETTY MUCH AS PLANNED...EXCEPT BASES
ARE A FEW HUNDRED FEET HIGHER THAN I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT...A GOOD
THING FOR PLANES. IT SHOULD CONTINUE TO SLOWLY FILL IN EARLY THIS
MORNING THEN SLOWLY BREAK UP FOR A MOSTLY SUNNY AFTERNOON.
KSEA...WINDS WILL REMAIN LIGHT S-SW THROUGH MUCH OF THE DAY...THEN
BECOMING WSW THIS AFTERNOON. IT SHOULD NOT DEVELOP A NORTHERLY
COMPONENT TODAY. BKN-SCT CLOUDS WITH BASES GENERALLY 2500-3000 FT
THIS MORNING...SLOWLY LIFTING AND BREAKING UP LATE THIS MORNING.
JUST A FEW SCT CLOUDS THIS AFTERNOON. CERNIGLIA
&&
.SEW WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
.SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY CENTRAL STRAIT AND EAST ENTRANCE AND ADMIRALTY
INLET.
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