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{17:00:10 NSP} (THE CLERK) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE CLERK: THE SENATOR FROM SHRX MR. GREGG, PROPOSES AN
AMENDMENT NUMBERED 624.
{17:00:13 NSP} (MR. GREGG) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
MR. GREGG: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT FURTHER
READING BE DISPENSED WITH.
{17:00:15 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.
{17:00:17 NSP} (MR. GREGG) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
MR. GREGG: MR. PRESIDENT, I'M OFFERING AN AMENDMENT HERE WHICH
ENSURES THAT SMALL BUSINESSES WHICH ARE HIT WITH THE Y2K
PROBLEM WILL NOT BE PENALIZED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR
ACTIVITIES WHICH THEY'RE UNABLE TO DEAL WITH AS A RESULT OF THE
Y2K PROBLEM. AND OVERZEALOUS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BEARING DOWN ON
A SMALL BUSINESS CAN BE A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM. I KNOW THAT ALL
OF US HAVE CONSTITUENTS WHO HAVE HAD SMALL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE
{17:00:47} (MR. GREGG) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
FOUVEND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO BE OVER BEARING WITH IT. IT
WOULD, THEREFORE, BE UNIQUELY IRONIC AND INAPPROPRIATE IF THE
OVER OVERZEALOUSNESS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WERE TO BE
THROWN ON TOP OF A SITUATION IN WHICH A SMALL BUSINESS HAD NO
CONTROL OVER, WHICH WOULD BE THE FAILURE OF THEIR COMPUTER
SYSTEM AS A RESULT OF A Y2K PROBLEM. THIS DOESN'T GET INTO THE
ISSUE OF LIABILITY, WHICH MAY BE THE UNDERLYING QUESTION WITHIN
THIS BILL. IT DOESN'T RAISE THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT THE
COMPUTER COMPANY SHOULD BE EXEMPT FROM LIABILITY, WHICH I KNOW
{17:01:21} (MR. GREGG) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
HAS BEEN A GENUINE CONCERN OF THE SENATOR FROM SOUTH CAROLINA.
RATHER, IT SIMPLY ADDRESSES THE NEED FOR EQUITY AND FAIRNESS
WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH SMALL BUSINESSES, WHICH THROUGH NO
FAULT OF THEIR OWN HAVE SUDDENLY BEEN HIT WITH A Y2K PROBLEM
AND, THEREFORE, FAILED TO COMPLY WITH A FEDERAL EVENT OR
FEDERAL REGULATION AND END UP GETTING HIT WITH A HUGE FINE. ALL
OF WHICH THEY HAD NO CONTROL OVER. THIS AMENDMENT IS TIGHTLY
DRAFTED SO THAT A SMALL BUSINESS CANNOT USE IT AS AN EXCUSE NOT
TO MEET A FEDERAL OBLIGATION OR A FEDERAL REGULATION. IT
{17:01:55} (MR. GREGG) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
DOESN'T ALLOW A SMALL BUSINESS TO TAKE THE Y2K ISSUE AND USE IT
TO BOOTSTRAP INTO AVOIDING AN OBLIGATION WHICH IT HAS IN THE
AREA OF SOME FEDERAL REGULATORY REGIME. RATHER, IT IS VERY
SPECIFIC. IT SAYS THAT FIRST OFF, THIS MUST BE AN INCIDENT OF
FIRST-TIME REGULATORY VIOLATION VIOLATION. SO THAT NO SMALL
BUSINESS WHICH HAS ANY SORT OF TRACK RECORD OF VIOLATING THAT
FEDERAL REGULATION COULD QUALIFY FOR THIS EXEMPTION. SO IT HAS
{17:02:26} (MR. GREGG) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
TO BE A FIRST-TIME EVENT. AND SECONDLY, IT HAS -- THE SMALL
BUSINESS HAS TO PROVE THAT IT MADE A GOOD-FAITH EFFORT TO
REMEDY THE Y2K PROBLEM BEFORE IT GOT HIT WITH IT. SO IT CAN'T
BE A SITUATION WHERE THE SMALL BUSINESS SAID OH, I'VE GOT THIS
Y2K PROBLEM COMING UP AND I'VE GOT THIS FEDERAL REGULATION
PROBLEM COMING UP, AND AT I'M GOING TO LET THE Y2K PROBLEM
OCCUR AND THEN I'LL CLAIM THAT THAT'S MY REASON FOR NOT
COMPLYING. THE SMALL BUSINESS MUST HAVE MADE A GOOD-FAITH
{17:03:01} (MR. GREGG) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
ATTEMPT TO REMEDY THE Y2K PROBLEM. THIRDLY, THE Y2K PROBLEM
CANNOT BE USED TO AVOID OR RESULT FROM -- THE VIOLATION WAS TO
AVOID OR RESULT FROM EFFORTS TO PREVENT DISRUPTION OF THE
CRITICAL FUNCTION OF SERVICE. FOURTHLY, THE ACTION TO REMEDIATE
THE VIOLATIONS WERE BEGUN WHEN THE VIOLATION WAS DISCOVERED. SO
THAT THE SMALL BUSINESS HAS TO SHOW THAT IT ATTEMPTED TO
ADDRESS THE PROBLEM AS SOON AS IT REALIZED IT HAD A Y2K
PROBLEM. AND IT CAN'T ALLOW THE FACT THAT IT HAS A Y2K PROBLEM
{17:03:34} (MR. GREGG) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
AGAIN TO GO UNABATED AND USE THAT LACK OF CORRECTION OF THE
PROBLEM AS AN EXCUSE FOR NOT MEETING THE OBLIGATIONS OF THE
FEDERAL REGULATION. AND FOURTHLY, THAT NOTICE WAS SUBMITTED TO
THE APPROPRIATE AGENCY WHEN THE SMALL BUSINESS BECAME AWARE OF
THE VIOLATION UNDER THE -- WHEN THE SMALL BUSINESS BECAME AWARE
OF THE VIOLATION AND, THEREFORE, KNEW IT HAD A Y2K PROBLEM. THE
PRACTICAL EFFECT OF THIS WILL BE THAT SMALL BUSINESSES
{17:04:08} (MR. GREGG) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY WHICH ARE INADVERTENTLY AND BEYOND
THEIR OWN CAPACITY TO CONTROL HIT WITH A Y2K PROBLEM WILL NOT
BE DOUBLED UP WITH THAT -- WITH A PENALTY FOR NOT MEETING A
FEDERAL REGULATORY ACTION THAT THEY COULDN'T MEET AS A RESULT
OF A Y2K PROBLEM KICKING IN. IT IS A SIMPLE AMENDMENT. IT'S A
REASONABLE AMENDMENT. IT REALLY DOESN'T GET INTO THE OVERALL
CONTEST THAT'S BEEN GENERATED AROUND THIS BILL WHICH IS SHOULD
THERE BE AN EXEMPTION FROM LIABILITY FOR THE MANUFACTURERS OF
{17:04:41} (MR. GREGG) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE PRODUCT WHICH CREATES THE Y2K PROBLEM. RATHER, IT'S TRYING
TO ADDRESS THE INNOCENT BYSTANDER THAT GETS HIT, THAT SMALL
BUSINESS PERSON WHO SUDDENLY WAKES UP, REALIZES THEY HAVE A
SMALL -- THEY HAVE A Y2K PROBLEM, TRIES TO CORRECT THE Y2K
ROBLEM, CAN'T CORRECT THE Y2K PROBLEM. SARLT, FAILS THIS COMPLY
WITH A FEDERAL REGULATION -- AS A RESULT, FAILS TO COMPLY WITH
A FEDERAL REGULATION, AND AS A RESULT, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
HITS THEM WITH A FINE. AND THERE WAS NOTHING THE SMALL BUSINESS
{17:05:19} (MR. GREGG) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
COULD DO. IT GETS HIT WITH A DOUBLE WHAMMY. THEIR SYSTEMS GO
DOWN AND THEY GET HIT WITH A FINE. NOW, THIS JUST GOES TO CIVIL
REMEDY, TO REMEDIES WHICH INVOLVE MONETARY ACTIVITY. SO IT DOES
NOT ADDRESS ISSUES WHERE A BUSINESS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO REMEDY
THROUGH ACTION. FOR EXAMPLE, -- AN AMPLE HERE MIGHT BE OSHA. IF
THEY HAD TO CORRECT A WORKPLACE PROBLEM, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE
TO CORRECT THAT WORKPLACE PROBLEM WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAD THE
{17:05:51} (MR. GREGG) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
Y2K FAILURE. IF THEY HAD A ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEM WHICH WOULD
REQUIRE REMEDIAL ACTION, SUCH AS A CHANGING IN THEIR WATER
DISCHARGE ACTIVITIES. AGAIN, THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE
REMEDIAL ACTION. ALL THIS AMENDMENT DOES IS VERY LIMITED IN
SCOPE AND JUST GOES TO THE -- TO THE FINANCIAL LIABILITY THAT
THE COMPANY MIGHT INCUR AS A RESULT OF FAILING TO MEET A
REGULATION. IT IS A PROPOSAL WHICH IS STRONGLY SUPPORTED BY THE
SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THE NFIB IS A SUPPORTER OF THIS
PROPOSAL, AND WILL BE SCORING TH VOTE AS ONE OF ITS PRIMARY
{17:06:24} (MR. GREGG) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
VOTES AS IT PUTS TOGETHER ITS ASSESSMENT OF PEOPLE WHO -- OF
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND THEIR SUPPORTER FOR SMALL BUSINESS.
IT'S A REASONABLE PROPOSAL, AND I CERTAINLY HOPE IT WILL END UP
BEING ACCEPTED. BUT IN ANY EVENT, I UNDERSTAND UNDER THE
UNANIMOUS CONSENT REQUEST WHICH HAS BEEN GENERATED, THERE WILL
BE A VOTE ON IT ON TUESDAY. AND I'D YIELD BACK MY TIME. I YIELD
THE FLOOR.
{17:06:46 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON.
{17:06:52 NSP} (MR. GORTON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
MR. GORTON: THE SENATOR FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE IS CORRECT. HE HE'S
EXPLAINED HIS AMENDMENT WITH GREAT CLARITY. IT MAY OR MAY NOT
BE SERIOUSLY CONTESTED. WE SIMPLY AREN'T GOING TO KNOW THAT
UNTIL EARLY NEXT WEEK. AND SO I THANK HIM FOR HIS GRACIOUSNESS
IN WAITING FOR A FINAL DECISION UNTIL THEN. MR. PRESIDENT, I
SUGGEST THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM.
{17:07:22 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.
{17:07:23 NSP} (MR. GORTON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT?
{17:07:26 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON.
{17:07:28 NSP} (MR. GORTON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK THAT FURTHER PROCEEDINGS UNDER
THE QUORUM CALL BE DISPENSED WITH.
{17:07:31 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.
{17:07:35 NSP} (MR. GORTON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
MR. GORTON: MR. PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE
SENATE NOW GO INTO A PERIOD OF MORNING BUSINESS WITH SENATORS
ALLOWED TO SPEAK THEREIN FOR UP TO TEN MINUTES.
{17:07:42 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED.
{17:07:45 NSP} (MR. GORTON) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
MR. GORTON: AND, MR. PRESIDENT, I SUGGEST THE A ABSENCE OF A
QUORUM.
{17:07:50 NSP} (THE PRESIDING OFFICER) { NOT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT }
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.
QUORUM CALL:
{END: 1999/06/10 TIME: 17-15 , Thu. 106TH SENATE, FIRST SESSION}
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