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Ask The CIO

Published:July 19, 2004

Thomas Hughes - Social Security Administration

FEDERALNEWSRADIO.COM: Anybody who spends any time poking around on your Web site very quickly realizes that it’s a pretty user-friendly interface. Are you one of the leaders, do you think, among government agencies when it comes to e-Gov initiatives?

HUGHES:
At our Web site, a citizen can plan for retirement, apply for retirement, they can use a direct deposit approach using our Web site and they can change their address for the check delivery on our Web site. We think we’re a leader in the federal government.

FEDERALNEWSRADIO.COM: Last time I poked around on your site, there was a banner ad that said “Declare your independence. Retire online.” I think you just gave me the big picture there with that last answer, but that’s an awfully ambitious proposition. What exactly do you mean by that?

HUGHES: What Social Security is trying to do is to use our site to look to the future in terms of their retirement efforts. Social Security is just one leg of helping citizens retire in the future. What we’d like is for citizens to visit our site and begin to use our services online. That helps us, both from our 1,400 office perspective in that people begin to use technology that’s at their fingertips at their home, and it allows them to declare their independence, to understand what they can expect in the future from Social Security.

FEDERALNEWSRADIO.COM: Let’s talk specifics. Walk me through one or two specific examples of what I could do if I went to your Web site right now.

HUGHES: Let’s say you’re 60 years old and you want to consider retiring when you’re 65. If you go to our Web site, there are two or three different approaches to retirement planning, whether you have the information or don’t have the information. You can put the information into our system. We can then estimate at the age of 65 what your retirement benefits would be. And you can actually apply so that when you’re 65 you will get information from Social Security.

FEDERALNEWSRADIO.COM: Give me one or two more examples of some of the things I can access and do online.

HUGHES:
Let’s say you’re 65 years old and you are receiving a check from Social Security. You can go to our Web site and, with a knowledge-based information approach, you change the direct deposit of the bank or you can actually change the address of where you want the check mailed. It’s your choice, but you can do it online.

FEDERALNEWSRADIO.COM: I’m thinking of my mother, who’s far on the other side of retirement, but probably wouldn’t be technologically savvy enough to do this. But we’re talking about baby boomers now, and does that kind of make this demographic a little more technology-friendly and you’re trying to capitalize on that?

HUGHES: We recognize that the baby boomers will be using the system more as the years go on. But we’re also finding that a lot of retired people have access to computers. If someone sitting in North Dakota has to drive 100 miles to a Social Security office, they’d much rather do it online. People will then access our Web site. That’s what we’re trying to encourage people to do.

FEDERALNEWSRADIO.COM: You’re talking about some very personal information here. How do you address the security concerns that are raised by a site like this?

HUGHES: If you think of security, there are different aspects that you’re considering. There are different forms of IT security, but what we’re talking about here is authenticating people. If we have information from past experience of working with individuals, then we can understand the levels of risk and the level that we allow certain changes to occur online. Sometimes you might need to call our 800 number, sometimes you may need to receive something in the mail, or sometimes you may be able to do it online.

FEDERALNEWSRADIO.COM: When I talk to your counterparts, CIOs at other agencies, they say they’re seeing a lot of threats and a lot attempts. What are you gauging there at SSA as far as attempts and maybe even successful attacks?

HUGHES: For Commissioner Barnhardt, security is number one here. It is a culture. It is a culture in both or 1,400 offices and at our Web site, in our mainframes, in our Unix environment. We experience threats everyday. But if you look at it from an IT security perspective, our information is not sitting out on the Web for people to access. It’s really back in several layers of security. While the Internet can be a dangerous area, we do not keep our information on the Internet.

FEDERALNEWSRADIO.COM: Different topic here. Let me ask you about your dealings with vendors and contractors. We know agencies are giving more and more work to outside contractors. What advice would you have for the myriad of IT contractors to set them apart in the eyes of a chief information officer?

HUGHES: Vendors are critical to our business. We use them strategically to help us improve our Web site and work with our information technology as contractors. The one piece of advice that I would give to vendors is to learn the business of your client. For example, if you think Social Security is just about retirement planning our just about the Internet, it’s not. It’s much more complicated than that. So if vendors are going to try to do business with any CIO or federal agency, learn the details as much as possible about that agency before you come and talk to the CIO.

FEDERALNEWSRADIO.COM: Anything we didn’t talk about this morning that you hoped we’d get a chance to get to?

HUGHES: I would like every listener to go to social security.gov I’d like for them to put in their Social Security Number to find out about what their possibility in terms of retirement benefits might be. They should be receiving something in the mail and they should be contacting the Social Security Administration if they’re not. So, go to social security.gov, plan your retirement and let us know what you think.



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