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LIST THREE NAMES OF THREE CORPORATIONS WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO
CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION. PHILIP MORRIS, R.J. REYNOLDS, AND BROWN
AND WILLIAMSON. TO MAKE IT CLEAR, WE ARE SAYING THAT THE
DISTANCE THAT MAKE TOBACCO PRODUCTS CAN NOW SELL THEM OVERSEAS
-- CONTINUE TO SELL THEM OVERSEAS -- WITH A SUBSIDY FROM THE
FEDERAL TREASURY. TO THE TUNE OF OVER $100 MILLION A YEAR
ACCIDENT WE ARE SEEING TO THESE PURVEYORS OF THESE DEADLY
TOBACCO PRODUCTS THAT WE, IN FACT, ARE GOING TO HELP YOU IN
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SELLING YOUR PRODUCT OVERSEAS. ALLOW ME TO PUT THIS IN
PERSPECTIVE. THE TOBACCO COMPANIES WHICH I'VE JUST NAMED WILL
HAVE DOMESTIC PRODUCTS IN THE UNITED STATES OF $7.2 BILLION,
AND WE'RE GIVING THEM $100 MILLION TO SUBSIDIZE THE SALE OF
TOBACCO PRODUCTS OVERSEAS. NOW, SOME WOULD STAND UP AND SAY,
WELL, SENATOR, WHY WOULD YOU PICK OUT THE TOBACCO COMPANIES?
IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO AFTER COMPANIES AND THE PRODUCTS THEY
MAKE, WHY WOULDN'T YOU GO AFTER A LOT OF OTHER COMPANIES TOO?
PERHAPS SOME ARGUMENT CAN BE MADE ALONG THOSE LINES. BUT LET ME
TELL YOU WHY I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DEAL WITH TOBACCO EXPORTS
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IN A DIFFERENT MANNER THAN OTHER PRODUCTS THAT ARE BEING
EXPORTED. AND I WILL USE FOR MY EVIDENCE ON THIS THE STATEMENTS
OF PHILIP MORRIS ITSELF PUBLISHED ON THEIR WEB SITE AS OF TEN
DAYS AGO. YOU SEE ALL THESE SOFT LITTLE GAUZEY COMMERCIALS
ABOUT PHILIP MORRIS, FEEDING POOR PEOPLE, HELPING THE ELDERLY,
PROVIDING SCHOLARSHIPS. MY FRIENDS AND THOSE WHO ARE WITNESSING
THIS DEBATE, THIS IS JUST EYE WALSH. THIS IS AN EFFORT BY THE
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TOBACCO COMPANIES TO TELL YOU THEY ARE WARM AND LOVING PEOPLE.
WELL, THESE WARM AND LOVING PEOPLE SELL A PRODUCT THAT KILLS
400,000 AMERICANS A YEAR YEAR. THE NUMBER-ONE PREVENTABLE CAUSE
OF DEATH IN AMERICA TODAY CONTINUES TO BE TOBACCO. WE HAVE JUST
ENACTED LEGISLATION GIVING A FEDERAL TAX SUBSIDY TO THESE SAME
TOBACCO COMPANIES TO SELL THIS DEADLY PRODUCT OVERSEAS. IS
THERE ANY DOUBT THAT IT'S DEADLY?
WELL, FOR A LONG TIME THE TOBACCO COMPANIES FOR DECADES SAID
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YOU CAN'T PROVE IT. THERE'S NO SCIENCE BEHIND IT. WE CAN PROVE
THAT TOBACCO MAY NOT BE HARMFUL. WELL, THEY'VE FINALLY GIVEN UP
ON THAT SAD AND DISGRACEFUL CLAIM, AND THIS IS WHAT THEIR WEB
SITE STARTED PUBLISHING JUST TEN DAYS AGO. IMAGINE, THIS IS
PHILIP MORRIS. THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. LET ME READ IT IN
THE RECORD. "CIGARETTE SMOKING AND DISEASE IN SMOKERS."
PHILIP MORRIS SAYS: "WE AGREE WITH THE OVERWHELMING MEDICAL AND
SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS THAT CIGARETTE SMOKING CAUSES LUNG CANCER,
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HEART DISEASE, EMPHYSEMA AND OTHER SERIOUS DISEASES IN SMOKERS.
SMOKERS ARE FAR MORE LIKELY TO DEVELOP SERIOUS DISEASES LIKE
LUNG CANCER THAN STPHON SMOKERS. THERE IS NO SAFE CIGARETTE.
THESE ARE AND HAVE BEEN THE MESSAGES OF PUBLIC HEALTH
AUTHORITIES WORLDWIDE. SMOKERS AND POTENTIAL SMOKERS SHOULD
RELY ON THESE MESSAGES IN MAKING ALL SMOKING-RELATED DECISIONS.
HAVING SAID THAT, WE HAVE JUST AWARDED TO THE COMPANIES THAT
MAKE THIS DEADLY PRODUCT AND WANT TO SELL IT OVERSEAS A $100
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MILLION-A-YEAR TAX SUBSIDY SUBSIDY. AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT
MEANS?
IT MEANS THAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WHICH FOR OVER A
CENTURY HAS BEEN A LEADER IN PUBLIC HEALTH CAUSES AROUND THE
WORLD, IS NOW GOING TO BE A LEADER IN PURVEYING THIS DEADLY
CIGARETTE AND TOBACCO PRODUCT IN THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES. VISIT
ANY COUNTRY THAT YOU CHOOSE OVERSEAS AND LOOK AT WHAT YOU SEE.
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COUNTRIES LIKE POLAND, WHICH SURPRISINGLY
HAS ENACTED GOOD LEGISLATION TO STOP TOBACCO ADVERTISING AND
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APPEALS TO CHILDREN IN COUNTRY AFTER COUNTRY, YOU FIND THE MOST
OUTRAGEOUS, DISGRACEFUL ACTIVITY BY AMERICAN TOBACCO COMPANIES
SUBSIDIZED BY AMERICAN TAXPAYERS SELLING THEIR DEADLY PRODUCT
OVERSEAS. IN THE PHILIPPINES, A VERY CATHOLIC COUNTRY, THEY
GIVE AWAY THESE CALENDARS SHOWING RELIGIOUS IMAGES WITH
AMERICAN TOBACCO PRODUCTS. THESE ARE THE THINGS WHICH AMERICAN
TOBACCO COMPANIES WILL NOW BE DOING WITH THE HELP OF THIS TAX
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SUBSIDY FROM FEDERAL TAXPAYERS. ALLOW ME TO TELL YOU WHAT WE
FACE HERE. SINCE 1990, PHILIP MORRIS'S SALES HAVE GROWN BY 80%
OVERSEAS. SMOKING CURRENTLY CAUSES MORE THAN 3.5 MILLION DEATHS
EACH YEAR THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. WITHIN 20 YEARS, THE NUMBER'S
EXPECTED TO RISE TO 10 MILLION, WITH 70% OF ALL DEATHS FROM
SMOKING IN DEVELOPING COUNTRIES. LISTEN TO THIS STATISTIC. THIS
OUGHT TO TELL YOU HOW IMPORTANT THIS ISSUE IS TO THE WORLD.
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TOBACCO WILL SOON BE THE LEADING CAUSE OF DISEASE AND PREMATURE
DEATH WORLDWIDE, SURPASSING AIDS, MALARIA AND TO CLERK LOSEZE.
-- AND TUBERCULOSIS. DO YOU TAKE ANY PRIDE IN AN AMERICAN
CITIZEN THAT IT IS OUR TOBACCO COMPANIES SELLING THESE PRODUCTS
TO CHILDREN AND TO UNSUSPECTING PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD WHICH
WILL SOON BE THE PUBLIC HEALTH SCOURGE OF OUR GLOBE?
DO YOU TAKE ANY COMFORTER SATISFACTION IN THE DECISION WE HAVE
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-- DO YOU TAKE ANY COMFORT OR SATISFACTION IN THE DECISION WE
HAVE JUST MADE IN THE LAST FEW MINUTES TO GIVE A $100 MILLION
SUBSIDY EACH YEAR TO THESE TOBACCO COMPANIES SO THEY CAN PEDDLE
THIS DEADLY PRODUCT TO KIDS AND UNSUSPECTING PEOPLE IN
COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD?
CAN YOU HOLD YOUR HEAD UP HIGH AS AN AMERICAN PROUD THAT WE ARE
NOW SUBSIDIZING THIS DEADLY PRODUCT?
CAN YOU VISIT THESE COUNTRIES AND SEE THE MARLBORO MAN AND ALL
OF THE LOGOS THAT WE HAVE SEEN DISAPPEARING IN AMERICA
REEMERGING IN THESE THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES AS MORE AND MORE
PEOPLE ARE LURED INTO TOBACCO ADDICTION?
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CAN YOU BE PROUD AS AN AMERICAN OF THAT FACT?
I AM NOT. I'M SADDENED BY IT. AND I'M SADDENED THAT THIS UNITED
STATES SENATE REFUSED TO ALLOW THIS BILL TO EVEN BE CONSIDERED
ON THE FLOOR FOR AN AMENDMENT. BUT THAT'S BEEN THE STORY OF THE
SENATE FOR MONTH AFTER MONTH. WE HAVE BEEN AFRAID TO FACE THE
REALITY OF DEBATE, AFRAID TO FACE THE TOUGH VOTES. AND FOR SOME
MEMBERS FROM THOSE STATES THAT PRODUCED TOBACCO OR HAPPEN TO BE
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FRIENDLY TO THE TOBACCO COMPANIES, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A TOUGH
VOTE. BUT THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PROTECTED, THESE SENATORS HAVE
BEEN PROTECTED FROM EVEN FACING THIS ISSUE. IT IS A TAX SUBSIDY
TO TOBACCO COMPANIES WHICH WILL LITERALLY KILL PEOPLE AROUND
THE WORLD. AND THIS COUNTRY, WHICH I AM SO PROUD TO BE PART OF,
THE STATE I REPRESENT, I AM SO PROUD TO BE THEIR SENATOR HERE
HERE, THIS COUNTRY WILL BECOME KNOWN TO PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD
AS THE SOURCE OF DEATH AND DISEASE. PEOPLE NOW WORRIED ABOUT
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DEATHS FROM MALARIA AND TUBERCULOSIS AND AIDS SIT TIGHT TIGHT,
BECAUSE IN A FEW YEARS, YOU WILL SEE ANOTHER DEADLY DISEASE
COMING ACROSS YOUR LAND
LAND: EMPHYSEMA, LUNG CANCER, HEART DISEASE FROM AMERICA'S
TOBACCO PRODUCTS. MARLBOROS, CAMELS, ALL OF THESE PRODUCTS
OVERSEAS. AND PHILLIP MOSS IS, AFTER THESE PUT ON THESE -- AND
PHILIP MORRIS, AFTER THESE -- THEY POUT THESE SWEET LITTLE
COMMERCIALS HOW THEY LOVE THESE CHILDREN, LOVE THESE ELDERLY
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PEOPLE, PUT ON SHE'S SWEET LITTLE COMMERCIALS AND TELL YOU HOW
LOVABLE THEIR PRODUCT IS. GO TO THEIR WEB SITE, LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN. GO TO THEIR WEB SITE AND SEE WHAT THIS LOVABLE
COMPANY SELLS TO MAKE THE PROFITS TO TAKE A MEALS ON WHEELS TO
AN ELDERLY LADY. THEY SELL A PRODUCT WHICH THEY NOW READILY
CONCEDE CAUSES DEATH AND DISEASE. AFTER 40 YEARS OF DENIAL,
THEY'VE FINALLY ADMITTED IT. AND WE HAVE DECIDED THAT WE WANT
TO SUBSIDIZE THEIR EFFORTS. IT'S A SAD DAY IN THE SENATE. I
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COULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT THIS TAX EFFORT FOR THE MANY
CORPORATIONS THAT WILL USE IT RESPONSIBLY TO SELL GOOD PRODUCTS
OVERSEAS. BUT TO THINK THAT THIS CONGRESS WILL BE PARTY TO THIS
DISGRACEFUL DECISION, IT'S A SAD DAY. IT'S NO SURPRISE A FEW
YEARS AGO WHEN WE WANTED TO HOLD THE TOBACCO COMPANIES
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR SOLICITATION OF CHILDREN, IT WAS STOPPED
BY THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE. WHEN
THIS ADMINISTRATION, THE CLINTON-GORE ADMINISTRATION, SAID THAT
THESE TOBACCO COMPANIES OWE FEDERAL TAXPAYERS FOR WHAT THEY'VE
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DONE TO THEM OVER THE YEARS AS THEY'VE SETTLED AND PAID THE
STATES FOR WHAT THEY HAD DONE TO THEIR CITIZENS AS WELL, THE
REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP HAS SAID, NO, STOP THE LAWSUIT. DON'T SUE
THE TOBACCO COMPANIES. LEAVE THEM ALONE. THESE POOR TOBACCO
COMPANIES. LEAVE THEM ALONE. THEY ONLY HAVE $7.2 BILLION
ANNUALLY IN PROFITS. WELL, I BELIEVE THE CLINTON CLINTON-GORE
ADMINISTRATION IS RIGHT. I BELIEVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE
THIS LAWSUIT. THEY DESERVE FOR TOBACCO COMPANIES TO BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE. THEY DESERVE FOR THESE COMPANIES TO FINALLY STOP
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SOLICITING OUR CHILDREN, ADDICTING OUR CHILDREN, AGGRESSIVELY
STOP SELLING THEIR PRODUCTS TO OUR CHILDREN CHILDREN. I'VE BEEN
IN CONGRESS FOR 18 YEARS. FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS, I HAVE FOUGHT
I GUESS ON THIS ISSUE MORE THAN ANY OTHER. I CAN ASSURE MY
FRIENDS IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE IT IS NOT THE END OF THE
DEBATE. TO THOSE WHO WANT TO GIVE THIS GIFT TO THE TOBACCO
COMPANIES, THEY CAN EXPECT THIS FIGHT TO CONTINUE. MR.
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PRESIDENT, I YIELD THE FLO FLOOR. MR. GRAMM: MR. PRESIDENT?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM TEXAS.
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MR. GRAMM: MR. PRESIDENT, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE OUR DEAR
COLLEAGUE FROM NEW YORK. I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR IT LEADERSHIP
IN DEFENSE OF TRADE. WE HAVE THESE RUNNING DEBATES MOST OF THEM
RELATED TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO
WITH THE SENATE'S BUSINESS IN THESE WANING HOURS OF THE SESSION
ABOUT WHO DESERVES OR WHAT DESERVES CREDIT FOR THE GOLDEN ERA
WE LIVE IN ECONOMICALLY. I THINK THE PLAIN ANSWER IS MORE THAN
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ANYTHING ELSE, THE CREATION OF A WEALTH-GENERATING MACHINE
THROUGH WORLD TRADE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS GOLDEN AGE WE LIVE
IN ECONOMICALLY. OUR COLLEAGUE IS WHAT I THINK OF AS AN
OLD-TIME DEMOCRAT. THERE USED TO BE A LOT MORE OF THEM HERE
THAN THERE ARE NOW, AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE
FEWER. SOME MIGHT THINK THE NUMBER WOULD BE ZERO AFTER SENATOR
MOYNIHAN. BUT THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THERE WAS A BIPARTISAN
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CONSENSUS IN FAVOR OF WORLD TRADE. UNFORTUNATELY, NOW IT'S SO
EASY TO DEMAGOGUE AGAINST TRADE BECAUSE YOU CAN IDENTIFY WHO A
POTENTIAL LOSER IS, IF A COMPANY SHUT DOWN, WHETHER IT WAS
INEFFICIENT OR -- QUOTE -- "MOVED OFF TO MEXICO," IT NORMALLY
-- THE CLAIM IS THEY MOVED OFF TO MEXICO. EVERYBODY THAT LOSES
A JOB KNOWS IT. THE 10 OR 100 JOBS WE CREATE FOR EVERY ONE WE
LOSE, PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WERE CREATED. SO IT'S HARD
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POLITICALLY TO STAND UP FOR ECONOMIC FREEDOM. AND WHAT IS A
MORE BASIC ECONOMIC FREEDOM THAN THE RIGHT TO PRODUCE THINGS
AND SELL THEM ALL AROUND THE WORLD?
I -- I'D LIKE TO ALSO SAY THAT IN AN ERA WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE
ARE RUNNING AWAY AND HIDING ON THE ISSUE OF SOCIAL SECURITY,
PRETENDING AS IF THE PROBLEM'S SOMEHOW GOING TO GO AWAY, I ALSO
WANT TO CONGRATULATE OUR COLLEAGUE FROM NEW YORK FOR BEING
WILLING TO STAND UP ON THAT ISSUE AND MAKE IT CLEAR THAT UNLESS
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WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, UNLESS WE CREATE A WEALTH SOURCE TO
PAY BENEFITS, THAT WE'RE PERPETRATING A CRUEL HOAX WHERE WE'RE
GOING TO END UP IN 12 OR 15 YEARS BEING IN A POSITION WHERE
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE EXCRUCIATINGLY PAINFUL CHOICES THAT
AREN'T JUST CHOICES ABOUT SPENDING CUTS VERSUS TAXES. THEY'RE
REALLY CHOICES WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE BETWEEN OUR PARENTS AND OUR
CHILDREN. BETWEEN THE SECURITY OF OUR PARENTS AND THE ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITY OF OUR CHILDREN. AND WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE THOSE
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CHOICES BECAUSE OF FAILED LEADERSHIP RIGHT NOW TO DEAL WITH
THIS ISSUE. SO I -- DIDN'T WANT TO PASS UP THIS CHANCE TO SAY
TO MY COLLEAGUE FROM NEW YORK THAT I'M GLAD HE CAME OUR WAY.
I'M PROUD TO CALL HIM MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE. I REMEMBER IN
THE FIRST DEALING I EVER HAD WITH THE SENATOR FROM NEW YORK, IT
WAS ON A TV TALK SHOW. I DON'T KNOW IF HE REMEMBERS IT. AND WE
SORT OF HAD A SHARP EXCHANGE. I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT I -- I'M NOT
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AS IGNORANT AS I USED TO BE. AND I WANT TO THANK OUR COLLEAGUE
FROM NEW YORK FOR BEING AN INSTRUCTOR FOR ME AND FOR AMERICA.
I'M PROUD OF HIS ACADEMIC BACKGROUND. I'M PROUD TO SHARE IT
WITH HIM.
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MR. MOYNIHAN: MR. PRESIDENT, MAY I THANK MY LEARNED AND EVER
ACCOMMODATING BUT ALMOST ALWAYS ACCOMMODATING FRIEND. I HAVE
LEARNED SO MUCH FROM HIM HIM. IF HE KNEW HOW LITTLE ECONOMICS I
BROUGHT TO THIS BODY, HE WOULD APPRECIATE HOW MUCH HE HAS ADDED
TO IT, FOR WHICH I AM GRATEFUL AS A SCHOLAR OUGHT TO BE, AND
ACROSS THE AISLE, I ADMIRE HIM SO MUCH AND ONLY WISH HE WAS
STILL ON THIS SIDE. BUT HE'S ON BOTH SIDES ON THE ISSUES THAT
MATTER, AND THAT'S WHAT IS IMPORTANT. I THANK MY FRIEND.
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MR. GRAMM: THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, I WANT TO COMMENT ON WHERE
WE ARE. I'M SURE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED. THEY -- THEY
HEAR THE PRESIDENT SAYING ONE THING. THEY HEAR THE CONGRESS
SAYING ANOTHER. THEY SEE CHAOS. THEY SEE GRIDLOCK. THEY SEE
POLITICS AS USUAL. AND I'M SURE THEY'RE WONDERING, WHAT IS ALL
THIS ABOUT?
AND LET ME TRY IN THE REMAINING MOMENTS I HAVE TO TRY TO
EXPLAIN. WE'RE AT THE END OF AN EIGHT-YEAR PRESIDENCY.
AMERICANS ARE GOING TO THE POLLS NEXT TUESDAY TO MAKE A
FUNDAMENTAL DECISION. BUT WE HAVE A PRESIDENT IN THE WHITE
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HOUSE NOW WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE DECISION FOR THE FUTURE
WHILE HE'S STILL PRESENT BY FORCING CONGRESS TO SPEND FAR
BEYOND THE BUDGET WE WROTE AND FAR BEYOND THE BUDGET HE WROTE.
THE PRESIDENT HAS IN ESSENCE SAID THAT IF WE WILL SPEND 30%
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