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January 29-30, 2004 (Monterey, CA)
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Open Discussion
Ms. Connell reported that an AP news release from 27 Jan 2004 had aired
on NPR concerning the sharing of private passenger data with NASA and
the government. The SIRS project work was mentioned in this news piece
and article, as well as ASRS. Ms. Connell informed the members that
this was an error and assured the members that no ASRS data was used in
that project.
Ms. Connell reported that NASA has re-organized the main NASA Advisory
Committee and to whom asrss reports. The asrss will now report to a
newly established Subcommittee called Revolutionizing Aviation. Mr.
Swanda was familiar with this new subcommittee and had been asked by
NASA to participate as Chair. Mr. Swanda stated that this change would
not affect the structure of the asrss.
Ms. Connell provided an update on the International Confidential
Aviation Safety Systems (ICASS) group that was initiated in the 1980's
by ASRS and currently includes nine countries - United Kingdom, Canada,
Australia, Russia, Japan, Taiwan, Korea, China and U.S. The Canada and
Australia are in the process of assessing possible changes to their
voluntary, confidential reporting systems to include stipulations for
transactional immunity and possible prohibition to use of third party
information that may be provided to the reporting system. Mr. Bourque
inquired about the Canadian system concerning transactional immunity or
if the program was being university managed. Ms. Connell replied that a
university in Canada had been proposed as their new "honest broker". He
also asked if any other countries had transactional immunity like the
ASRS. Ms. Connell responded that the U.S. ASRS has third party
protections and transactional immunity as prominent features within the
provisions of the Code of Federal Regulations for aviation and the FAA,
Advisory Circular 00-46D. All other countries have some level of "use"
immunity, but not "transactional" immunity like the U.S. As far as
third party exposure, each country's system handles this differently.
A discussion of data protection for the ASRS in relation to FOIA request
was initiated. Mr. Swanda proposed and was supported by the members who
wished to be informed of any FOIA requests for ASRS data.
Mr. Hedges discussed the FAA Small Aircraft Transportation System (SATS)
program and said that in the 2008 Plan they would be attempted to
address how the ASRS database information might be used to contribute to
their safety index, quantitatively or qualitatively. Mr. Swanda
inquired about addressing what role ASRS might play in a national
aviation safety index.
Mr. Wright asked about the next meeting for future planning. The
members proposed the next meeting dates could be the last week of July
and the second week in August. NASA will send out a selection three
dates to members to determine their availability.
After a brief summary from Mr. Wirth, the meeting was adjourned.
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