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UNDERSTANDING THAT MR. DOMENICI AND THEN MR. MCCAIN HAVE ORDERS
FOR RECOGNITION.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR IS CORRECT.
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MR. BYRD: I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT I MAY BRIEFLY SPEAK NOW
AND THAT I ALSO BE RECOGNIZED FOLLOWING THE SPEECH BY MR.
MCCAIN AND THE SPEECH BY MR. DOMENICI AND I BE RECOGNIZED AT
THAT TIME FOR NOT TO EXCEED 45 MINUTES.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.
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MR. BYRD: MR. PRESIDENT, ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, THE SENATE
LOST ONE OF ITS OWN FAMILY MEMBERS. NOT A MEMOIR CAPITAL "M"
ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE, BUT NONE PAID UNSUNG BUT, OH, SO
IMPORTANT. A MEMBER OF THE SENATE FAMILY ON WEDNESDAY, MAUREEN
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MANSFIELD, THE BELOVED LIFE OF FORMER MAJORITY LEADER MIKE
MANSFIELD, PASSED AWAY. IT IS SAFE TO SAY THAT WITHOUT THE
EFFORTS -- WITHOUT THE EFFORTS, THE ENERGY, THE DEDICATION AND
THE LOVE OF MAUREEN MANSFIELD, THE STPHALT AND THE PEOPLE OF
MONTANA MIGHT -- THE SENATE AND THE PEOPLE OF MONTANA MIGHT
NEVER HAVE BENEFITED FROM THE EXTRAORDINARY TALENTS OF MIKE
MANSFIELD.
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LIKE MYSELF, MIKE WAS RAISED BY AN AUNT AND UNCLE AFTER THE
DEATH OF HIS MOTHER WHEN HE WAS JUST THREE YEARS OLD. DURING
THE FIRST WORLD WAR, MIKE MANSFIELD DROPPED OUT OF SCHOOL AND
HE JOINED THE NAVY, AND HE ALSO SERVED WITH THE ARMY AND IN THE
MARINE CORPS. UPON HIS RETURN TO MONTANA, HE WORKED AS A MUCKER
IN THE COPPER MINES. AND DID NOT RESUME THE SCHOOLING THAT HE
HAD LEFT BEHIND IN THE EIGHTH GRADE. MAUREEN, A HIGH
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SCHOOLTEACHER WHEN HER YOUNGER SISTER INTRODUCED HER TO MIKE,
ENCOURAGED HIM TO RETURN TO SCHOOL. SHE HELPED HIM TO APPLY TO
MONTANA STATE UNIVERSITY AND HELPED HIM TO COMPLETE HIS HIGH
SCHOOL EQUIVALENCY COURSES BEFORE COMPLETING COLLEGE. SHE
CASHED IN HER LIFE INSURANCE AND WORKED AS A SOCIAL WORKER IN
ORDER TO SUPPORT HER HUSBAND IN SCHOOL. AND THEN BOTH OF THEM
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WENT ON TO EARN MASTERS DEGREES. MAUREEN MANSFIELD DID NOT
BELIEVE IN AND SHE DISPROVED THE OLD SAW THAT YOU CANNOT CHANGE
A MAN AND THAT ALL EFFORTS TO DO SO WILL BE FUTILE. MIKE
MANSFIELD'S CONGRESSIONAL CAREER ALSO BENEFITED FROM MAUREEN
MANSFIELD'S SUPPORT. MAUREEN WOULD CAMPAIGN FOR MIKE IN
MONTANA, SOMETIMES ON HER OWN WHEN MIKE COULD NOT GET AWAY FROM
WASHINGTON. MIKE MANSFIELD SERVED FIVE TERMS IN THE HOUSE OF
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REPRESENTATIVES BEFORE HIS FIRST ELECTION TO THE SENATE. IN THE
UNITED STATES SENATE, LYNDON JOHNSON PICKED MIKE FOR PARTY
WHIP. IN THOSE DAYS IT WAS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT IT IS NOW,
BECAUSE A LEADER WILL NOT PICK ANOTHER MEMBER FOR THE OFFICE OF
PARTY WHIP. MIKE WENT ON -- THAT'S A MATTER THAT THE MEMBERS
WILL RESOLVE. MIKE WENT ON TO SERVE AS MAJORITY LEADER HIMSELF
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FOR 16 YEARS, LONGER THAN ANY OTHER SENATOR. I SERVED AS HIS
PARTY WHIP. I CONTINUE TO HOLD MIKE MANSFIELD IN THE HIGHEST
RESPECT. MIKE AND MAUREEN HAVE ALWAYS BEEN GOOD FRIENDS TO ME
AND TO ERMA, AND WE WILL BOTH MISS THEIR COMPANIONSHIP AND THE
VERY DEEP AFFECTION AND ESTEEM WITH WHICH THEY TREATED EACH
OTHER AND WHICH SUSTAINED THEM THROUGH 68 YEARS OF MARRIAGE. SO
I'VE GOT FIVE MORE YEARS TO GO, ERMA AND I, BEFORE WE CAN SAY
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WE'VE BEEN MARRIED 68 YEARS. BUT MIKE AND MAUREEN SET AN
EXEMPLARY AND GREAT EXAMPLE IN THAT REGARD. MIKE MANSFIELD
NEVER LOST HIS APPRECIATION FOR HIS WIFE'S SUPPORT. HE ALWAYS
READILY GAVE MAUREEN THE CREDIT THAT HE FELT SHE WAS DUE AND
WHICH I, HAVING ENJOYED THE SAME KIND OF LOVE AND SUPPORT FROM
MY OWN WIFE, READILY ENDORSE. THESE TALENTED, ORGANIZED,
GRACIOUS WOMEN, LIKE MAUREEN MANSFIELD AND MY WIFE ERMA, COULD
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HAVE COMMANDED ARMIES. THEY COULD HAVE RUN UNIVERSITIES OR WON
SENATE SEATS IN THEIR OWN RIGHT. BUT THEY CHOSE INSTEAD TO
HITCH THEIR STARS TO THE WAGONS OF THEIR HUSBANDS. AND MIKE
MANSFIELD AND I ARE DEFINITELY THE BETTER FOR IT. I BELIEVE TOO
THAT THE NATION IS BETTER OFF AS A RESULT. THE DEMANDS OF THE
SENATE, PARTICULARLY THE DEMANDS PLACED UPON MAJORITY LEADERS,
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ARE STRESSFUL, THEY ARE TIME-CONSUMING, THEY ARE EXHAUSTING. IT
IS EVEN MORE THAN A TWO-PERSON JOB. I COULD CONCENTRATE ON
SENATE MATTERS KNOWING THAT ERMA WAS THERE AT HOME TO SUPPORT
ME, TO GIVE THE LOVE AND AFFECTION AND ATTENTION TO OUR TWO
DAUGHTERS THAT THEY SO MUCH DESERVED. I'M HERE TO SAY THAT ONE
OLD ADAGE IS CERTAINLY TRUE, AND THAT IS THIS, AND WE'VE ALL
HEARD IT MANY TIMES. "BEHIND ANY MAN, ANY GREAT MAN IS AN EVEN
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GREATER WOMAN." TO THE EXTENT THAT I EVER WANTED TO BE GREAT,
I'VE BEEN DENIED THAT -- THAT, BUT I CAN SAY THAT I HAVE ERMA
TO THANK FOR WHATEVER I'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH. I THINK
MIKE MANSFIELD WOULD SAY THE SAME ABOUT MAUREEN. NOW THAT
MAUREEN HAS FOUND NEW LIFE IN THE SHELTER OF GOD'S HAND, I HOPE
THAT MIKE AND HIS DAUGHTER, ANN, AND HIS GRANDDAUGHTER MIGHT
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SYMPATHIZE WITH THE WORDS OF THE BEYOND BY ELLER WHEELER
WILCOX. IT SEEMTH SUCH A LITTLE WAY TO ME, ACROSS THAT STRANGE
COUNTRY, THE BEYOND. AND YET, NOT STRANGE FOR IT HAS GROWN TO
BE THE HOME OF THOSE OF WHOM I AM SO FOND. THEY MAKE IT SEEM
FAMILIAR AND MOST DEAR AS JOURNEYING FRIENDS BRING DISTANT
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COUNTRIES NEAR. AND SO FOR ME, THERE IS NO STING OF DEATH. AND
SO THE GRAVE HAS LOST ITS VICTORY. IT IS BUT CROSSING WITH
BATED BREATH AND WHITE SET FACE A LITTLE STRIP OF SEA TO FIND
THE LOVED ONES WAITING ON THE SHORE MORE BEAUTIFUL, MORE
PRECIOUS THAN BEFORE. WE MISS HER HERE BUT SHE SURELY WAITS FOR
MIKE. MR. PRESIDENT, I YIELD THE FLOOR.
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MR. DOMENICI: MR. PRESIDENT?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM NEW MEXICO.
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MR. DOMENICI: MR. PRESIDENT, FIRST I WANT TO CONGRATULATE
SENATOR BYRD ON HIS COMMENTS WITH REGARD TO THE VERY
DISTINGUISHED MIKE MANSFIELD AND WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM RECENTLY
IN THE PASSING OF HIS BEAUTIFUL AND WONDERFUL WIFE. I TOO, IN
READING ABOUT HIM, I DIDN'T EXPERIENCE AS MUCH OF HIM AS YOU
DID. BUT WHAT I DID WAS RATHER SENSATIONAL AND RATHER UNIQUE,
THE WAY HE DID THINGS. BUT EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T KNOW HIM AS
LONG AS YOU DID AND DIDN'T FEEL HIS PRESENCE AS MUCH, WHAT I
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KNOW OF HIM, HE'S A VERY REMARKABLE AMERICAN. CAN YOU IMAGINE
IN HIS EARLY LIFE WHAT HE DID AND HOW HE GOT EDUCATED AND FINDS
HIMSELF MAJORITY LEADER OF THE UNITED STATES SENATE FOR -- AND
HE DOES THAT FOR A LONG TIME. ISN'T HE STILL THE RECORD HOLDER?
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MR. BYRD: HE IS. HE WAS MAJORITY LEADER LONGER THAN ANY OTHER
SENATOR.
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MR. DOMENICI: AND FRANKLY, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, HE DID IT
WITH A VERY COOL HAND. I MEAN, MAYBE IT WAS DIFFERENT DAYS, BUT
IT WAS LESS CONFRONTATIONAL TODAY, AS I UNDERSTAND. NO
CRITICISMS, JUST IT WAS DIFFERENT WHEN HE WAS LEADING IT.
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MR. BYRD: WE WERE IN VERY DIFFERENT TIMES AND WE WERE DEALING
WITH DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES. HE WAS A REMARKABLE MAN, HOWEVER.
AND I THANK THE VERY DISTINGUISHED SENIOR SENATOR FROM NEW
MEXICO FOR HIS WORDS.
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MR. DOMENICI: THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, YESTERDAY AND MAYBE TWO
PREVIOUS TIMES ON THE SENATE FLOOR I HAVE DISCUSSED THE GORE
BUDGET AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO ALL OF THE HUGE AMOUNT OF
MONEY THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE TAXPAYERS WHICH WE'VE BEGUN
TO CALL SURPLUS. I CHOOSE NOW TO CALL IT THE TAX SURPLUS. IT'S
-- IT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE PAYING IN THAT WE DON'T NEED. AND
I'D LIKE TO ONCE AGAIN MAKE SURE THAT THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE
FOR PRESIDENT, GEORGE W. BUSH, AND THE VICE PRESIDENT WHO LAST
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NIGHT DID SUCH A MARVELOUS JOB, THE DISTINGUISHED FORMER
SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, DICK CHENEY, I URGE THEM TO CONTINUE --
TO CONTINUE -- TO TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHAT THE GORE BUDGET
WILL LOOK LIKE. WHEN THEY MENTION IT, WHEN IT'S MENTIONED,
EVERYBODY SAYS THIS CAME FROM THE BUDGET COMMITTEE STAFF THAT
ARE REPUBLICANS. AND THEREFORE, YOU SHOULDN'T USE IT. IT'S
PARTISAN. IT'S LIKE PAPER THAT IS NOT EVEN WORTH USING. I
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SUBMIT AND I TELL OUR TWO CANDIDATES, YOU KEEP USING IT AND YOU
KEEP SAYING IT'S TRUE, BECAUSE THE -- ABOUT AS GOOD A PEOPLE AS
WE'VE EVER HAD TO LOOK AT BUDGETS LOOKED AT THE GORE BUDGET.
AND FRANKLY, THE CHAIRMAN -- I AM THE CHAIRMAN OF THAT
COMMITTEE, AND I'VE RELIED UPON THEIR EXPERTISE YEAR AFTER
YEAR. I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO EXAGGERATE AND SAY THEY ARE THE
BEST. THEY ARE THE BEST AT GETTING TO THE BOTTOM OF PROGRAMS
AND ANALYZING THEM. I ASKED THEM TO DO IT. THEY DID IT. THEY
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GAVE US A MAJOR REPORT ON THE SUBJECT. AND I WOULD SAY TO OUR
CANDIDATE, THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS, FORMER SECRETARY DICK CHENEY,
NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT IT, YOU USE IT. THE GORE BUDGET
HAS 200 NEW PROGRAMS IN IT. IF YOU ESTIMATE APPROPRIATELY THEIR
COST BASED UPON WHAT IS SAID ABOUT THE PROGRAM, YOU CANNOT PAY
FOR THOSE PROGRAMS WITHOUT USING ALL OF THE ON-BUDGET SURPLUS
AND $700 BILLION TO $900 BILLION OF THE SOCIAL SECURITY
SURPLUS. NOW THAT'S OUR VERSION. WE THINK IT'S TRUE. AND WE
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DON'T BELIEVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ACTUALLY THINK THAT WHEN YOU
FINALLY HAVE A SURPLUS BECAUSE WE ARE PAYING SO MUCH MORE IN
TAXES THAN WE NEED, WE DON'T THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT THE
GOVERNMENT TO GROW AT THE LARGEST RATE IN MODERN HISTORY.
PROBABLY IF YOU PUT THE GORE EXPENDITURE BUDGET INTO EFFECT,
YOU WILL INCREASE GOVERNMENT IN ONE TO TWO YEARS MORE THAN ANY
MODERN YEAR EXCEPTING MAYBE THE LYNDON JOHNSON GREAT SOCIETY
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YEAR. TWO YEARS. NOW IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME, AS THE CHAIRMAN
OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, WHAT VICE PRESIDENT GORE SAYS ABOUT
THESE FIGURES, NOR WHAT OUR DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM
CONNECTICUT, THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE, WHOM I HAVE GREAT
RESPECT FOR, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEY KEEP SAYING. THE TRUTH
OF THE MATTER IS WE HAVE AN ANALYSIS OF THAT BUDGET. AND EARLY
NEXT WEEK WE WILL HAVE A FULL ANALYSIS OF THE -- THEY FINALLY
PUT THEIR BUDGET INTO SHEETS OF PAPER. IT'S A VERY LARGE
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BUDGET. WE WILL FINALLY HAVE THAT ANALYZED. AND I'M TOLD IT
WILL COME OUT NO DIFFERENT. IT WILL COME OUT THE SAME WAY.
200-PLUS NEW PROGRAMS, THE LARGEST NEW EXPENDITURE IN THE NEXT
FIVE YEARS THAT WE'VE EVER HAD IN GOVERNMENT. AND IF YOU TAKE
THEM AT THEIR WORD AND DO ALL OF THEM, YOU CANNOT DO IT WITHOUT
SPENDING PART OF THE SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS. NO MATTER WHAT
THEY SAY ABOUT ITS SOURCE, IT IT'S AS GOOD AS ANYTHING THEY'VE
GOT. I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE. HE
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KNOWS THAT. BUT LAST NIGHT HE SAID SOMETHING THAT WASN'T TRUE,
AND I JUST WOULD ASK HIM TO TAKE A LOOK. HE SAID THEIR BUDGET,
THE BUDGET THEY HAVE, ANALYZED FOR THE FUTURE WAS DONE BY A
NEUTRAL BODY CALLED THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE. THAT'S TO
MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY WOULD THINK IT'S AUTHENTIC AND THE
DOMENICI BUDGET ANALYSIS IS NOT AUTHENTIC. LET ME ASSURE
EVERYONE, THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE DOES NOT DO AN
ANALYSIS OF
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