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If you need the complete document, download the WordPerfect version or Adobe Acrobat version, if available. ***************************************************************** Federal Communications Commission Washington, D.C. 20554 June 4, 1997 Released: June 24, 1997 IN REPLY REFER TO: 1800C1-JEE 95100477 96070454 96100043 96100438 CERTIFIED MAIL, RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED CBS Radio Licensee, WXRK(FM), New York, NY 40 West 57th Street, Fourteenth Floor New York, NY 10019 Dear Licensee: This letter constitutes a NOTICE OF APPARENT LIABILITY FOR A FORFEITURE pursuant to Section 503(b) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, under authority delegated to the Chief of the Mass Media Bureau by Section 0.283 of the Commission's Rules. On October 15, 1996, the Commission issued a Notice of Apparent Liability (NAL) to WVGO License Limited Partnership, licensee of Radio Station WBZU(FM), Richmond, VA, for violation of 18 U.S.C.  1464 by its broadcast on October 23, 1995 and June 3, 1996, of certain apparently indecent material contained in the "Howard Stern Show". On April 8, 1997, the Commission also issued an NAL to EZ New Orleans, Inc., licensee of Radio Station WEZB(FM), New Orleans, LA, for violation of 18 U.S.C.  1464 by its broadcast on March 7, 1996 and June 3, 1996, of certain apparently indecent material contained in the "Howard Stern Show". Since the "Howard Stern Show" originates at WXRK's studios in New York and because you have indicated in previous filings with the Commission that it can be assumed that if the "Howard Stern Show" material was broadcast by a "Howard Stern Show" affiliate, it was broadcast by WXRK, we presume that the material aired by WBZU(FM) and WEZB(FM) was also aired by WXRK(FM) on the same dates and at the times of day as noted above. Transcripts of the material we have cited as indecent, taken from tapes submitted by the complainants in the two noted cases, are attached. Pursuant to 47 U.S.C.  312(a)(6) and 503(b)(1)(D), the Commission has statutory authority to take appropriate administrative action when licensees broadcast material in violation of 18 U.S.C.  1464, which provides criminal penalties for anyone who "utters any obscene, indecent or profane language by means of radio communication." The Commission has defined indecency as language or material that, in context, depicts or describes, in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community standards for the broadcast medium, sexual or excretory activities or organs. Infinity Broadcasting Corporation of Pennsylvania, 2 FCC Rcd 2705, 2705 (1987) (citing Pacifica Foundation, 56 FCC 2d 94, 98 (1975), aff'd sub nom. FCC v. Pacifica Foundation, 438 U.S. 726 (1978)). The United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit has upheld the Commission's authority to restrict the broadcast of indecent material at times when there is a reasonable risk that children may be in the audience. Action for Children's Television v. FCC, 852 F.2d 1332 (D.C. Cir. 1988). The court subsequently concluded that a 10:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. "safe harbor" was justified as a properly tailored means of vindicating the government's compelling interest in the welfare of children. Action for Children's Television v. FCC, 58 F.3d 654 (D.C. Cir. 1995), cert. denied, 116 S. Ct. 701 (1996). We have previously determined that the excerpts from the "Howard Stern Show" reflected in the attached transcripts are apparently indecent in that they contain language that describes sexual and excretory activities or organs in patently offensive terms. Moreover, because the material aired at times when there was a reasonable risk that children may have been in the audience (between 6:00 a.m. and 10:00 a.m.), it is legally actionable. Thus, it appears that on October 23, 1995; March 7, 1996; and June 3, 1996, Station WXRK(FM) violated 18 U.S.C.  1464 by airing indecent programming. We have determined that the appropriate remedy for the apparent violations noted here is a monetary forfeiture. Accordingly, pursuant to Section 503(b) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, CBS Radio is hereby advised of its apparent liability for a forfeiture of Six Thousand Dollars ($6,000), for its apparent willful and repeated violations of 18 U.S.C.  1464 on the dates set forth above. The amount specified was determined after consideration of the factors set forth in Section 503(b)(2) of the Act, including "the nature, circumstances, extent, and gravity of the violation." In regard to this forfeiture proceeding, you are afforded a period of thirty (30) days from the date of this letter "to show, in writing, why a forfeiture penalty should not be imposed or should be reduced, or to pay the forfeiture. Any showing as to why the forfeiture should not be imposed or should be reduced shall include a detailed factual statement and such documentation and affidavits as may be pertinent." 47 C.F.R.  1.80(f)(3). Other relevant provisions of Section 1.80 of the Commission's Rules are summarized in the attachment to this letter. FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION Roy J. Stewart Chief, Mass Media Bureau Attachments Radio Station: WVGO-FM (Now WBZU-FM), Richmond, VA Date/Time Broadcast: October 23, 1995 at 7:00 a.m. Material Broadcast: Howard Stern 95100477 HS: Howard Stern RQ: Robin Quivers MV: Male Voice HS: Anyway. RQ: But why do you think your wife is asking you about sex if she doesn't want to have it? HS: I don't know. It's, it's, so listen to this, so listen what I did. So I go upstairs, now I'm, I'm ready for sex. Cause I purposely didn't play with myself on Friday. RQ: Really? HS: Or Saturday. RQ: You're storing up. HS: Yeah, even during the computer sex, as tempted as I was, I didn't, you know. RQ: Like a squirrel you're saving your nuts. HS: Yeah. RQ: (Laughs). HS: That's right, so I go upstairs and the baby finally went to bed cause the baby had napped during the afternoon and thrown everything up. RQ: How old is this baby now, this baby is? HS: Two, over two and actually, well, it gets more incredible. So the kids are finally asleep and I go upstairs to my wife and she says she wants to have sex now. I was dog tired. I was tired. RQ: How, she doesn't just try to get you into it she just. HS: No, no. RQ: She announces. HS: She just announces. RQ: It's time for you to give me sex HS: Yeah, she goes, should I get my vibrator? RQ: (Laughs). HS: So. RQ: So sexy. HS: Yeah, so she goes in the other room and I'm, half of me was just saying why don't I just go to sleep and skip all this sex but I said, you know what, I better give her something because, this is ridiculous. RQ: We are married. HS: We are married and I guess we might as well go through with this, so she walks out of the room and she comes in with vibrators, two different kinds of KY, Astro-Glide, and all kinds. Her arms are full and then a towel. RQ: Did she have a tray? HS: Yeah, she has a whole huge thing, you know, and Astro-Glide, whatever that is. I won't even use it. RQ: That's what you put on your exercise machine isn't it? HS: Yeah, I think so, I think you're right about that. MV: Ski wax. It's grease. HS: Yeah. RQ: Where does she get the WD-40? HS: I don't know but she has a whole bunch of toys and things, you know, so alright, I go, what's all this? Cause it took up half the bed. So on the computer sex this girl said, she wanted to be bent over a chair, you know, so I was thinking I'm going to bend my wife over a chair. RQ: (Laughs). WVGO-FM 2. HS: But anyway, okay, then I said, you know what honey, we're going to do something different tonight. I said, first of all I want you to go put on one of those outfits for me. She goes, oh please. I said, here's what you do, go into your closet there, pull out a sexy little number, and I'm going to put a little music on. RQ: Oh, now you're getting into music. HS: Yeah, little music, okay. So she goes, what do you mean music? I don't understand. I said, do me a favor, I'm just laying here in the bed, put the music on. She can't. We have a radio in our bedroom, it is so complicated I can not get, I can't get a station on. So she turns it off. She goes in the other room to get changed, I get up. I get my lazy ass out of bed and I'm plunking around and I finally figured out how to work the radio. 20 minutes into this. And I'm wondering where she is, she's probably peeing and I hate when she does. I hate when she. She always. As soon as I say we're going to have sex she goes and goes to the bathroom, which is disgusting. And she lets me hear it, she keeps the door open. RQ: I don't know. HS: You know what I mean? I don't want to hear her going to the bathroom before sex. RQ: This is the woman who said she wanted to have sex, she's still not ready. HS: Yeah, she's not ready and she, and the door is always open and I, you know, I hear her. RQ: You're saying, Jackie's been there. HS: Oh yeah, his wife is probably more disgusting. (Flatulence). So anyway, I'm sitting in the, I get, I get the, so I'm looking for a Black station. I decide I'm going to have sex. RQ: To Black music. HS: To Negro race music. So, because to me that's the music you have sex to. Black people make the best music. Sorry to offend you white people. Black people make incredible music. Marvin Gaye, you know, you know, all that stuff. But I want to get into the music of today. The Black music of today, I don't want to hear old. RQ: Well, they don't play that on the radio. HS: Yes, they do. They play rap music. So what is it? So I go to BLS. BLS is so far to the end of the dial. RQ: You almost don't have radio there any more. HS: It figures, a Black station is almost off the dial. Only in America. RQ: I know it's down here somewhere. HS: Right, so anyway, I get down to that and they got a song on there that was so tribal and like, like, almost like Africans chanting and ranting and raving. I figured this is the best music in the world. I crank it up and I'm standing there waiting for wife. My wife walks in, she's wearing a white, like a slip, with big giant black underpants underneath it and her bra. I look at this outfit and I go, Allison. She goes, what do you think of this outfit? I go, that's the worst outfit I ever saw. RQ: Big giant underpants. HS: Now she gets all upset, I go, first of all you got giant black underpants under white. She goes, she goes, those are French cut. I go, that's not French anything. Figures the French make French cut bikini underpants, they're three sizes too big. I said, I hate those underpants, I hate that white outfit, I don't like any of it. Minnie Pearl dresses sexier. So, I sent her back into her closet. She comes out, now she's wearing her black, little short outfit that I like, with underpants. I said, get the underpants off. Wear your outfit, no underpants and get that stupid bra off. RQ: (Laughs). Geez. WVGO-FM 3. HS: So she goes back in, she gets the stupid bra off, she whips off. RQ: That's the third change. HS: Yeah, I want it right, then I go, get your high heels cause you're going to be bent over a chair. She goes, what? I'm not going to be bent over any chair. I go, get your high heels. Just go get your high heels. She goes, get that music off, it's horrible. RQ: Marriage is very tough. HS: I know. I said, Allison. RQ: It's tiring me out. HS: She goes, at least lower it. I go now, I'm not lowering, just go get high heels. So she had these high heels. She came in, there she's wearing high heels, no panties, she's got the little black thing on and I'm ready for action. So, you know, she starts screaming about the music, it's the wrong music, it's the wrong. I said, I can not go and try and find another Black station. RQ: This is it. HS: I go honey, this is Black music. She's whining about it so much, I go okay. So I go over to the radio and I say, I know, 97 is the Black station, the most popular Black station. And my, I start hitting the button, now I'm getting irritated, I hit the button, I can't find this 97, it won't stop. Finally I get to 97, they're playing this rhythmic Black jungle music. Like right straight out of Africa. RQ: Here we go. I don't know what you're listening to. HS: It was sexy. I mean it was like, you know, (Unintelligible Sounds). Like you could feel yourself having sex. So all of a sudden I had it on, and I start, my wife starts laying down on the bed like usual, I said, get up off that bed. You're going to dance with me. RQ: (Laughs). HS: To this jungle music. RQ: You're going to dance. HS: That's right, what? MV: I'd love to see this. (Unintelligible). HS: Yeah, and this music was so rhythmic a Mongoloid could feel the beat. My wife is no great dancer, so she starts moving around, she's, you know, she's bopping up and down, I say, no, no, no, slow down, slow down. You know, she's like, she thinks she's in a disco. I said, slow down. So I start dancing with her right? And I'm rubbing, now don't forget, she doesn't have any panties on, I'm rubbing her legs while I'm dancing, and I'm squeezing her ass, and lifting the dress up a little bit, once in a while my arm slides into the wrong place, you know what I mean? RQ: Oh dear. HS: You know what I mean? I'm manipulating her, spreading the cheeks, right? Come on, you know you like this Robin. RQ: You are whacky. HS: Look at you. RQ: You're. HS: You're a little flush right now. RQ: Just go on with your story. HS: Want to take your shirt off? You like this don't you? Come on, this is good, compliment me. RQ: Well, I'm shocked because this is not your usual. HS: Hey, put a little energy into my marriage. RQ: Absolutely, I mean I've had evenings like this but you have never had. HS: No, I never had this, I know you've had evenings like this. I'm telling you this is my first evening like this. So I'm trying to be a little creative, you know. RQ: Uh huh. HS: You got to applaud a man when, you know, after 20 year of sleeping with the same woman and he can have any woman he wants, you know, I'm. RQ: You can't have any woman, that's it. WVGO-FM 4. HS: I know, so then I'm like, you know, I'm rubbing her legs and she's getting into it and I'm like, you know, and then I even like I was pulling down her top a little bit and kissing her and you know what I mean? And she was really turned on. RQ: Uh huh. HS: Really turned on. RQ: How do you know? HS: Then I bent her over the bed, like I bent her, I just bent her over. RQ: Uh huh. HS: Now she, she was totally open to me.. MV: (Unintelligible). HS: What? MV: Totally vulnerable. HS: Totally vulnerable like you do it. (Laughs). Totally, like when the police get you up against the car? RQ: There you go. HS: Yeah, all bent over the car. RQ: You're mine. HS: And I start manipulating, doing everything I've learned over the years, which isn't much. RQ: All your expertise. HS: Right. RQ: At play. HS: All my expertise are in my hands. And she was writhing. RQ: Oh. HS: Oh boy, had her going. Writhing with pleasure. But I was all sexed up from the computer. RQ: She doesn't know that though. HS: Then she was losing her balance. It was so good. RQ: I thought she was bent over? HS: Yeah, but she was, I don't know, she was shaking. RQ: Got weak in the knees. HS: She got weak, she couldn't stand up, I was busy, I had two busy thumbs. RQ: Oh dear. HS: Thumbs, look at my thumb Robin. RQ: Please, I don't want to see it. HS: Come here. RQ: I don't want to watch. HS: Look at that, huh. RQ: I'm not looking at that. HS: Look how long it is, isn't that pretty? MV: Two of them. HS: There you go, two of them. RQ: Oh shut up you two. HS: Two of them, Atilla the Thumb. RQ: I don't know what he's talking about. HS: You know, you've been there. RQ: I've never been in thumb territory. HS: Well, let me tell you, she was, she hadn't been either, after 20 years she hadn't been in thumb territory. Well she was digging, let me tell you something, then I got her down on the bed and then with the vibrators, thumbs. RQ: Good Lord you needed vibrators then? HS: And, oh yeah, and you should, and the vibrator disappeared, if you know what I mean, and. MV: Question. HS: My tongue was used. RQ: Oh. MV: That's a first. HS: Oh yes. WVGO-FM 5. MV: Is she still faced away from him? HS: Let me tell you, now she's on the bed and let me see if I can describe the position, she was busy on me and I was busy on her. RQ: Really? Oh. HS: Yeah. RQ: (Laughs). HS: Double session, how's that? And she was going wild, I mean she, and to the thumping Black music she was. RQ: She found her. HS: Thrusting RQ: Rhythm. HS: Yeah, she found her rhythm and I was like, wow, look at this. She's like dancing but laying down on her back and she was loving me. She was in love. RQ: Oh, I'm very happy for you. HS: Oh, let me tell you and then I finished her off with you know what. My weapon. (Unintelligible). No, we don't. And boy, oh boy, she has never felt me like this, she said. Not this. She goes, what, did you grow? RQ: Oh. Geez. HS: She's being complimentary. RQ: You too. (Laughs). HS: And I had her in a position, her, do you like it? RQ: You can still move if you wanted to. HS: Really? She said she couldn't. She just lays there and I don't care cause if she moved around I wouldn't last too long. RQ: Oh dear. HS: I didn't last that long anyway but it didn't matter, she was already in the ozone. RQ: (Laughs). You hit her? HS: Oh I sure did, oh yeah, let me tell you, I gave her some workout Robin. RQ: Well, it sounds like. HS: And then I fell asleep. RQ: Almost immediately with her legs still over the. HS: Yeah, I was like, I was exhausted. RQ: (Laughs). Oh you. HS: But. RQ: Typical man. HS: That's. Radio Station: WVGO-FM (Now WBZU-FM), Richmond, VA Date/Time Broadcast: June 3, 1996 at 9:00 AM Material broadcast: Howard Stern 96070454 HS: Howard Stern RQ: Robin Quivers FV: Female Voice F2: Second Female Voice MV: Male Voice M2: Second Male Voice (Father) M3: Third Male Voice Side A (Low level noise in background) * * HS: So I was just sitting here looking at those naked pictures of Janah(?) Jamerson, the porno star. RQ: Uh huh. HS: And Jackie said to me, you think her dad, if she showed him five pictures of vaginas could he pick out his daughter's vagina? RQ: Oh dear. MV: (Unintelligible). HS: So I asked him to hold on cause I want to see if he can do it. RQ: Oh, you're going to do it? HS: Yeah. RQ: You got other magazines? HS: Yeah. I got a picture of her vagina and a couple of other vaginas. MV: Alien vaginas. HS: Alien vaginas. RQ: Oh, he says he censors. He doesn't look at hers. HS: Yeah but he knows her from when he used to change her diaper and stuff. Did it look that different? RQ: Yes, I would think so. HS: Why they matured or something? RQ: (Laughs). MV: You could guess. HS: I wonder if he's ever gotten it on with a girl, that his daughter has gotten it on with. RQ: Now there's a question cause I'm beginning to think that Janah was bringing those girls home for herself. HS: And then dad got. RQ: And dad got them. MV: There has to be cross over. HS: Gary, just quickly ask them to step back in for one second. I got to know. RQ: Not finished with this interview. HS: Yeah, I had time to think. RQ: I thought about that in the hall, that they probably have done the same women. HS: Did you? RQ: Yeah. HS: See, I don't know. But. MV: You know what I want to know? I want to know if Janah could identify it? HS: I know. (Laughter). Hey Janah? FV: Yeah. HS: Did you ever bring home a girl, who was your girl friend, like a girl you had sex with and then your dad nailed her? WVGO-FM 2. FV: Uh, I brought home a girl that maybe I was looking to maybe. HS: Have sex with. FV: Yeah, you know. M2: Do we still have her number? FV: Yeah, really. HS: And do you, how many women you figured you scored with that were friends of Janah's? M2: Maybe 50 or 60. MV: Oh God. HS: Wow. FV: Yeah, I had a lot of friends, I was a pretty. HS: Wow. FV: Popular girl. HS: Man. RQ: But you've never, you don't think you've made love to the same people? FV: No, I don't think so. M2: No. FV: The other. M2: Except for Charlie Sheen. That's right. HS: You're just joking, of course. M2: Oh, yes. HS: Yes. I dig your belly button ring. I mean your dad's, not. (Laughter). That is the sexiest thing. RQ: So once your dad gets a girl you don't want her anymore. FV: No, that's kind of a taboo thing to me, you know. RQ: I see. HS: Yeah, something's got to be off limits. FV: Yeah. RQ: You got to draw the line somewhere. HS: If I showed you five pictures of private parts, do you think you could pick out your daughter's? M2: No. HS: You do not? M2: No, not unless the other four were male. HS: No, I mean, if I showed you five different pictures. M2: No, there's. HS: There's no way? M2: No way, no way. FV: I hope not. HS: Why? FV: Oh. HS: I was just looking at these pictures of you. FV: You know, there are a few things that embarrass me Howard. HS: I was just looking at pictures of you in Cherry magazine. FV: Uh huh. HS: And I mean, like you're showing everything. FV: Mm mm. HS: You know, the butt, everything. You know. (Unintelligible). So exposed, like a canned ham. M2: (Laughs). HS: Give me those pictures. Alright, here you go. Now one of these. M2: Oh, my. HS: One of these are Janah, Ralph? M3: Yeah. HS: Okay. M3: You know which one? HS: Yeah I know, I'm going to show you five pictures, let me see if you can do it. M2: Alright. WVGO-FM 3. HS: Ralph, you stay in here since you know. Alright, here I'm going to show. RQ: There are no other identifying things there? HS: This is number one private parts. FV: Oh God. M2: Okay. HS: Don't say anything Janah. This is number two, private parts. Don't say anything Janah. FV: (Laughs). HS: This is number three. (Drum roll). Okay, number four. FV: I don't even think I know. RQ: How many you got there? HS: Okay, look, this one even has writing on it. I'm going to take this one off because. RQ: That would tell HS: Then you would know, it would tell. (Paper being ripped sound). Alright, this is number five and then I'll show you number six, there's six of them, I guess, and that's number six. We're not going to say which one is which. RQ: Okay. M2: I'll say this one. HS: Which one? That's her. RQ: Is that what you agreed? HS: That's Janah. That's her vagina. M2: I picked it out. (Trumpet sounds). HS: You picked your daughter's vagina. (Applause). HS: Very few people. RQ: What led you to that one? MV: Daddy's little girl. HS: Daddy's little girl. FV: I think he saw my tattoo. HS: Oh, is that what it is? RQ: See, I said, are there identifying marks? HS: Oh, you moron, you should have just (Unintelligible). M2: I didn't say that. I was looking at. HS: Very good. FV: I'm hoping that's why. * * Radio Station: WEZB-FM, New Orleans, LA Date/Time Broadcast: March 7, 1996 between 6 a.m. and 10 a.m. Material Broadcast: Howard Stern 96100043 wezb5 HS: Howard Stern RQ: Robin Quivers MV: Male Voice * * HS: Alright, I'll guess one too, since he did one. What's the worst part of having sex with your brother? (Unintelligible). What's the worst part of having sex with your brother? MV: You got to fix the crib after it breaks and then you got to clean the blood off the diaper. HS: Right. And what else? (Unintelligible). Okay, that's bad but what's the worst part? RQ: (Laughs). MV: That's the worst part? * * Radio Station: WEZB-FM, New Orleans, LA Date/Time Broadcast: June 3, 1996, between 6 a.m. and 10 a.m. Material broadcast: Howard Stern 96100438 wezb6 HS: Howard Stern RQ: Robin Quivers MV: Male Voice M2: Second Male Voice M3: Third Male Voice FV: Female Voice * * HS: Pictures of Janah Jamerson, the porno star. RQ: Uh huh. HS: And Jackie said to me, you think her dad, if you showed him five pictures of vaginas could he pick out his daughter's vagina? RQ: Oh dear. MV: (Unintelligible). HS: So I asked him to hold on cause I want to see if he can do it. RQ: Oh, you're going to do it? HS: Yeah. RQ: You got other magazines? HS: Yeah. I got a picture of her vagina and a couple of other vaginas. MV: Alien vaginas. HS: Alien vaginas. RQ: Oh, he says he censors. He doesn't look at hers. HS: Yeah but he knows her from when he used to change her diaper and stuff. Did it look that different? RQ: Yes, I would think so. HS: Why they matured or something? RQ: (Laughs). MV: You could guess. HS: I wonder if he's ever gotten it on with a girl, that his daughter has gotten it on with. RQ: Now there's a question cause I'm beginning to think that Janah was bringing those girls home for herself. HS: And then dad got. RQ: And dad got them. MV: There has to be cross over. HS: Gary, just quickly ask them to step back in for one second. I got to know. RQ: Not finished with this interview. HS: Yeah, I had time to think. RQ: I thought about that in the hall, that they probably have done the same women. HS: Did you? RQ: Yeah. HS: See, I don't know. But. MV: You know what I want to know? I want to know if Janah could identify it? HS: I know. (Laughter). Hey Janah? FV: Yeah. HS: Did you ever bring home a girl, who was your girl friend, like a girl you had sex with and then your dad nailed her? WEZB-FM 2. FV: Uh, I brought home a girl that maybe I was looking to maybe. HS: Have sex with. FV: Yeah, you know. M2: Do we still have her number? FV: Yeah, really. HS: And do you, how many women you figured you scored with that were friends of Janah's? M2: Maybe 50 or 60. MV: Oh God. HS: Wow. FV: Yeah, I had a lot of friends, I was a pretty. HS: Wow. FV: Popular girl. HS: Man. RQ: But you've never, you don't think you've made love to the same people? FV: No, I don't think so. M2: No. FV: The other. M2: Except for Charlie Sheen. That's right. HS: You're just joking, of course. M2: Oh, yes. HS: Yes. I dig your belly button ring. I mean your dad's, not. (Laughter). That is the sexiest thing. RQ: So once your dad gets a girl you don't want her anymore. FV: No, that's kind of a taboo thing to me, you know. RQ: I see. HS: Yeah, something's got to be off limits. FV: Yeah. RQ: You got to draw the line somewhere. HS: If I showed you five pictures of private parts, do you think you could pick out your daughter's? M2: No. HS: You do not? M2: No, not unless the other four were male. HS: No, I mean, if I showed you five different pictures. M2: No, there's. HS: There's no way? M2: No way, no way. FV: I hope not. HS: Why? FV: Oh. HS: I was just looking at these pictures of you. FV: You know, there are a few things that embarrass me Howard. HS: I was just looking at pictures of you in Cherry magazine. FV: Uh huh. HS: And I mean, like you're showing everything. FV: Mm mm. HS: You know, the butt, everything. You know. (Unintelligible). So exposed, like a canned ham. M2: (Laughs). HS: Give me those pictures. Alright, here you go. Now one of these. M2: Oh, my. HS: One of these are Janah, Ralph? M3: Yeah. HS: Okay. M3: You know which one? HS: Yeah I know, I'm going to show you five pictures, let me see if you can do it. WEZB-FM 3. M2: Alright. HS: Ralph, you stay in here since you know. Alright, here I'm going to show. RQ: There are no other identifying things there? HS: This is number one private parts. FV: Oh God. M2: Okay. HS: Don't say anything Janah. This is number two, private parts. Don't say anything Janah. FV: (Laughs). HS: This is number three. (Drum roll). Okay, number four. FV: I don't even think I know. RQ: How many you got there? HS: Okay, look, this one even has writing on it. I'm going to take this one off because. RQ: That would tell HS: Then you would know, it would tell. (Paper being ripped sound). Alright, this is number five and then I'll show you number six, there's six of them, I guess, and that's number six. We're not going to say which one is which. RQ: Okay. M2: I'll say this one. HS: Which one? That's her. RQ: Is that what you agreed? HS: That's Janah. That's her vagina. M2: I picked it out. (Trumpet sounds). HS: You picked your daughter's vagina. (Applause). HS: Very few people. RQ: What led you to that one? MV: Daddy's little girl. HS: Daddy's little girl. FV: I think he saw my tattoo. HS: Oh, is that what it is? RQ: See, I said, are there identifying marks? HS: Oh, you moron, you should have just (Unintelligible). M2: I didn't say that. I was looking at. HS: Very good. FV: I'm hoping that's why. * *