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WE CAN'T VOTE. I WONDER WHAT IS WORRYING PEOPLE?
THE SENATE EXPRESSES ITS VIEW ON MANY THINGS. AND IT RESOLVES
DISPUTES LIKE THIS REGULARLY. BUT IN THIS CASE, UNLESS SOME
FUTURE DATE, WHO KNOWS WHETHER, WE WON'T BE PERMITTED TO
EXPRESS THE COLLECTIVE SENATE'S WILL BY VOTING ON THIS ISSUE
WHICH IN 30 MINUTES COULD BE KNOWN BY ALL SIDES AND ALL PARTIES
AND A GOOD DECISION COULD BE MADE BY THE SENATE. I THANK THE
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DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM NEVADA. MR. BRYAN: MR. PRESIDENT?
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM NEVADA, IN BRYAN IS
RECOGNIZED.
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MR. BRYAN: I THANK THE DISTINGUISHED OCCUPANT OF THE CHAIR. MR.
PRESIDENT, I WANT TO CHANGE THE FOCUS OF THE DISCUSSION ON THE
FLOOR FROM THE PREVIOUS COLLOQUY BETWEEN THE SENIOR SENATOR
FROM NEVADA AND THE SENIOR SENATOR FROM NEW MEXICO. EARLIER
TODAY, THE SENATOR FROM KANSAS, MR. BROWNBACK TOOK TO THE FLOOR
TO ARGUE ON BEHALF OF A PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT WOULD EFFECT
ONLY MY STATE AND EFFECT IT IN A VERY PROFOUND AND NEGATIVE
WAIVE. THE AS SENTENCE BELL PURPOSE OF THE LEGISLATION I THINK
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ALL OF US CAN GRIEF UPON AND I WANT TO PUT THE DISCUSSION IN
THE CONTEXT OF AS I SEE IT. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ILLEGAL
WAGERING AND SPORTS -- COLLEGE SPORTS, PARTICULARLY WAGE RING
BY UNDERAGE COLLEGE STUDENTS INCLUDING STUDENT ATHLETES. I
THINK THERE IS NO DISAGREEMENT, MR. PRESIDENT, THAT THIS IS A
SERIOUS PROBLEM AND ONE THAT RECOGNIZES AND OUGHT TO BE
ADDRESSED IN A VERY SERIOUS WAY. THE NATIONAL CLEM AT ATHLETIC
ASSOCIATION TESTIFIED BEFORE THE COMMERCE COMMITTEE ON WHICH I
SERVE AS THEY DID BEFORE THE NATIONAL GAMBLING IMPACT STUDY
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COMMISSION THAT THERE ARE ILLEGAL STUDENT BOOK IS ON VIRTUALLY
HE HAVE COLLEGE CAMPUS IN AMERICA. INCLUDING SOME INDIVIDUALS
WITH LINKS TO ORGANIZED CRIME. I DO NOT DISAGREE WITH THAT
ASSESS: THE MATTER IS SO RECEIVE YURS SOME STUDENTS HAVE
ACTUALLY BEEN THREATENED WITH BODILY HARM TO COLLECT GAMBLING
DEBTS OWED TO ILLEGAL STUDENT BOOK IS. I DO NOT DISAGREE WITH
THAT ASSESSMENT. THE NCAA HAS KNOWN AT LEAST SINCE THE
THREE-PART INVESTIGATIVE SERIES PUBLISHED BY SPORTS ILLUSTRATED
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IN 1995, THAT THE ILLEGAL GAM BLIPG PROBLEM ON AMERICA'S CLEM
CAM MUSS WAS WIDESPREAD AND GROWING. A RECENT UNIVERSITY OF
MICHIGAN SURVEY FOUND THAT HALF OF ALL MALE STUDENT ATHLETES
NATIONWIDE, THAT'S 45%, GAMBLED ILLEGALLY ON COLLEGE AND
PROFESSIONAL SPORTS. A NATIONWIDE SURVEY OF NCAA DIVISION ONE
MALE BASKETBALL AND FOOTBALL STUDENT ATHLETES CONDUCTED FOR THE
NCAA BY THE UNIVERSITY OF CINCINNATI RESEARCH TEAM, FOUND THAT
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OVER ONE-FOURTH GAMBLED ON COLLEGE SPORTS. SADLY, A SMALL
NEUROMUSCULAR NUMBER IN EACH SURVEY GAMBLED ON GAMES IN WHICH
THEY PLAYED. THIS IS WRONG. BEYOND THE BROADER ISSUE OF THE
EXTENT TO WHICH STUDENT ATHLETES AND STUDENTS IN GENERAL GAMBLE
ON SPORTS ILLEGALLY THERE ARE THE TROUBLE CASES OF IMPROPER
INFLUENCE BEING EXPERTED ON -- EXERTED ON STUDENT ATHLETES FROM
THOSE WHO SEEK TO GAIN FROM FIXED GAMES. THIS REPREHENSIBLE
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CONDUCT HAS REARED ITS UGLY HEAD ON OCCASION SINCE AT LEAST THE
1940'S. PARTICULARLY IN THE COULD BE TEXT OF COLLEGE
BASKETBALL. WHILE THE NCAA'S RECENT RHETORIC LEAVES THE IMPRESS
THAT SUCH POINT SHAVING OR FIXING OF GAMES IS RAMPANT, WE CAN
BE THANKFUL THE RECORD BELIES THAT RHETORIC. THE TWO RECENT
SCANDALS OF THIS TYPE, THOSE AT NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY AND
ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY TOOK PLACE MORE THAN FIVE YEARS AGO IN
THE MID-1990'S. THE INTEGRITY OF VIRTUALLY ALL THOSE WHO COME
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PETE IN COLLEGE ATHLETICS IS VERIFIED BY THE FACT THAT THERE
WERE A HANDFUL OF SUCH SCANDALS IN THE 1990'S, OUT OF TENS OF
THOUSANDS OF GAMES PLAYED. WHILE NOT A SINGLE SPORTS BRIBERY
SCANDAL SCHEDULED BE TOM RATED, WE NEED TO KNOW WHY THEY OPEN
KURD AND BY WHAT MEANS. THE RECORD IS CLEAR FOR THOSE STUDENT
ATHLETES WHO VIOLATED THE TRUST OF THEIR TEAMMATES AND SCHOOLS
BY ENGAGING IN ILLEGAL SPORTS WAGERING. AS A RESULT OF THEIR
ILLEGAL WAGERING THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN DEBT TO THE POINT WHERE
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THEY COMMIT HEINOUS ACTS OF BETRAYAL TO PAY OFF DEBTS TO
ILLEGAL BOOK IS. IF MERELY PASSING LAWS PROHIBITING UNREGULATED
SPORTS GAMBLING WERE ENOUGH NO STOP IT, THE PRACTICE WOULD NOT
BE SO WIDESPREAD TODAY. SPORTS GAMBLING HAS BEEN ILLEGAL FOR
DECADES IN ALMOST EVERY STATE AND CONGRESS ENACTED IN 1992 AN
ACT TO PREVENT STATES FROM ADDING SPORTS-BASED GAMES TO THEIR
STATE LOTTERIES. THAT SAME STATUTE, THE PROFESSIONAL AND
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AMATEUR SPORTS PROTECTION ACT, ALSO PROHIBITS PERSONS FROM FROM
ENGAGEING IN SPORTS-BASED WAGERING SCHEMES, CONTESTS MUCH
SWEEPSTAKES. SIMILARLY WAGEERING AND SPORTS OF ANY KIND,
COLLEGE OR PROFESSIONAL IS ALREADY A VIOLATION OF NCAA BY LAW
NUMBER 10.3. A REVIEW OF THE NCAA PUBLICLY AVAILABLE COME
COMPUTER DATA PACE OF RULES INFLAX CASES INDICATES THAT AS OF
199, AND THAT IS THE LAST YEAR NOR WHICH DATA HAS BEEN POSTED,
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ENFORCEMENT OF BY LAW 10.3 BY THE NCAA IS IN FREQUENT AND
SPOTTY ADD BEST. -- INFREQUENT AND SPOTTY AT BEST. THE DATABASE
REVEALS THEY BROUGHT ONLY 23 ENFORCE. ACTIONS AGAINST STUDENT
ATHLETES FROM 196 TO 199, EVEN THOUGH THE UNIVERSITY OF
MICHIGAN AND UNIVERSITY OF CINCINNATI STUDIES INDICATED THAT
THOUSANDS OF VIOLATIONS OCCURRED. IN SOME OF THE 23 CASES THE
VIOLATIONS CENTERED ON SUCH ROUTINE PRACTICES AS STUDENTS
WAGERING TEAM SOLDIER SINCE WITH EACH OTHER. IN THE FACE OF
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ORGANIZED STUDENT BOOKMAKING OPERATION WITH LINKS TO ORGANIZED
CRIME KHEFIK CHECK HANDLING LARGE SUMS OF CASH WAGERS, SUCH
ENFORCE. STRATEGY IS AT BEST MISPLACED. AGAINST THIS BACKDROP
OF A SERIOUS NATIONAL PROBLEM WITH ILLEGAL SPORTS GAMBLING, THE
LEGISLATION TO WHICH I PREVIOUSLY REPREFERRED, S. 2340 TAKES
THE VERY PECULIAR APPROACH OF TARGETING THE ONLY PLACE IN
AMERICA WHERE SPORTS WAGERING IS LEGAL, REGULATED, POLICED,
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TAXED AND CONFINED TO ADULTS OVER THE AGE OF 2. THE STATE OF
NEVADA. FURTHERMORE, THE FACTS ARE THAT LEEFM WAGERING IN
NEVADA AMOUNTS TO ONLY ABOUT 1% OF ALL SPORTS GAMBLING
NATIONWIDE. 99% OF WHICH IS ALREADY I AM LEGAL. THE NATIONAL
IMPACT GAMBLING COMMISSION SAID WAGERING IN THE UNITED STATES
RAIFMGD FROM $380 -- $80 BILLION TO $0 BILLION ANNUALLY. IN
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CONTRAST WAGERING IN NEVADA LAST YEAR TOTALED APPROXIMATELY
$2.5 BILLION WITH ROUGHLY A THIRD OF THAT A BID ON CLEM SPORTS
EE VEPS. THE STPHRAL QUESTION THEN WHICH SUPPORTERS OF THE
SHAPECHUR FAILED TO ANSWER ADEQUATE LIVE IS HOW DOES PREVENT
ADULT DUE RIFLT AND CONVENTION NEERGS FROM PLACING SPORTS WAY
SOLDIERS IN NEVADA EFFECT WHAT HAPPENS ON AND OFF COLLEGE
CAMPUSES IN THE OTHER 49 STATES?
EACH OF THE APRIL TEMPTED ANSWERS TO THIS CENTRAL QUESTION IS
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COMPLETELY UNPERSUASIVE. FIRST, THE CENTRAL PREMISE UNDERLYING
THIS LEGISLATION IS THAT ELIMINATING THE SMALL AMOUNT OF LEGAL
SPORTS WAGERING IN NEVADA WILL CAUSE NEWSPAPERS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY NOT TO PUBLIC LIR BETTING LINES OR POINT SPREAD.
THEREBY CURBING ILLEGAL GAMBLING ACTIVITY. THIS NOTION IS
FURTHER EVIDENCED BIFF THE COMMITTEE REPORT A CONGRESS S. 2340
THE AMATEUR SPORTS INTEGRITY ACT THAT STATES "POINT SPREADS ARE
GENERATED FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN TO FACILITATE BETTING ON
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COLLEGE SPORTS." IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT NEITHER THE
COMMERCE COMMITTEE NOR NATIONAL GAMBLING IMPACT STUDY
COMMISSION TOOK TESTIMONY FROM NEWSPAPERS TO DETERMINE IF IN
FACT THEY WOULD SEIZE PUBLICATION OF BETTING LINES IF SPORTS
GAM BLIPG WERE MADE ILLEGAL IN NEVADA. SIMILARLY NO TELL WAS
TAKEN TO -- TESTIMONY WAS TAKEN TO DETERMINE IF SPORTS WAGERING
WOULD BE REDUCED IF NEWSPAPERS SEIZED PUBLISHING THIS
INFORMATION. I MADE HAS POINT AT THE TIME OF THE HEARING ON S.
2340 THAT IT IS NOT TOO SHALL TO ASK THAT SUCH DUE DILIGENCE BE
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CONDUCTED BEFORE A LEGAL INDUSTRY AND ITS EMPLOYEES ARE
LEGISLATED OUT OF EXISTENCE. MR. PRESIDENT, JUST RECENTLY THE
NEWSPAPER SOAKS OF AMERICA, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF AMERICA'S
NEWSPAPERS, BROKE THEIR SILENCE AND SHARED THEIR THOUGHTS T.
THOUGHTS ON THIS LEGISLATIVE PROPOSAL. AND NOT SURPRISINGLY,
THEY COMPLETE HE REFUTEED THE PRIMARY PREMISE, THE UNDERLYING
ARGUMENT PUT FORTH BY THE SPONSORS OF THIS LEGISLATION. AND I
WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH MY COLLEAGUES THE CONTENT OF THEIR
LETTER TO THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS
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A LETTER DATED JUNE 7 OF THIS YEAR ADDRESSED TO THE CHAIRMAN
AND RANKING MEMBER OF THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. LET ME
READ THE OPERATIVE PROVISIONS. "IF CONGRESS PROHIBITS GAM BLIPG
ON COLLEGE SPORTS, THE -- GAMBLING ON COLLEGE SPORTS, THE
NEWSPAPER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA BELIEVES NEWSPAPERS WILL
CONTINUE TO HAVE AN INTEREST IN PUBLISHING POINT SPREAD ON
COLLEGE GAMES SINCE POINT SPREADS APPEAR TO BE USEFUL IF NOT
VALUABLE TO NEWSPAPER READERS WHO HAVE NO INFECTION OF BETTING
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ON GAMES." THAT IS A PRETTY CLEAR STATEMENT. THAT THIS SOAKS
REPRESENTING AMERICA'S NEWSPAPERS BELIEVE THAT NOTWITHSTANDING
ANY LEGISLATION PROHIBITION, THE NEWSPAPERS IN AMERICA WILL
CONTINUE TO PUBLISH THESE POINT SPREAD ON COMBAIMS. AND THEN
THE LETTER GOES ON TO POINT OUT "ACCORDING TO MA NATIONAL
HARRIS POLL TAKEN OF SOME 1024 RESPONDENTS CONDUCTED DURING THE
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APRIL 7 TO APRIL 12 PERIOD, 0% OF RESPONDENTS WHO READ OR
LOOKED AT POINT SPREADS ON COLLEGE SPORTS DO SO TO OBTAIN
INFORMATION ABOUT A FAVORITE COLLEGE TEAM AND TO INCREASE THEIR
KNOWLEDGE ABOUT AN UPCOMING SPORTING EVENT. ONLY 11% OF THE
RESPONDENTS SAID THAT READ OR LOOK AT POINT SPREADS AND COLLEGE
SPORTS TO PLACE A BET WITH THE BOOKMAKER. THE NATIONAL
ASSOCIATION -- THE NEWSPAPER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA BELIEVES
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THAT PUBLICATION OF POINT SPREADS PROVIDES USEFUL INFORMATION
TO MILLIONS OF NEWSPAPER READERS OF WHOM 96% ARE 2 AND OVER.
AND THEN THE SECOND OBSERVATION THE ASSOCIATION MADE. SECOND,
MOUNTING THE SPOTLIGHT ON PUBLISHED POINT SPREADS IN NEWSPAPERS
FAILS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AN INDIVIDUAL CAN OBTAIN POINT
SPREADS ON COLLEGE GAMES THROUGH MANY DIFFERENT SOURCES. THESE
SOURCES INCLUDE SPORTS TALK SHOWS ON RAY YO AND TELEVISION
MAGAZINES, TOLL FLEE TELEPHONE SERVICES AND THE INTERNET.
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ILLEGAL BOOK IS ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND THE GENERAL POPULATION
WILL CONTINUE TO SET THE BETTING LIONS INDEPENDENT OF ANY
PUBLISHED POINT SPREAD. ANYONE INTENT ON PLACING BETS ON GAMES
CAN AND WILL OBTAIN POINT SPREADS EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT
PUBLISHED IN IN THE NEWSPAPER. MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD ASK
UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THIS LETTER WHICH I HAVE IDENTIFIED BE
PLACED IN THE RECORD.
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THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION.
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MR. BRYAN: I THANK THE PRESIDENT. MR. PRESIDENT, THE NCAA HAS
THREATENED FOR YEARS TO DID HE NINE THE NCAA SPONSORED
TOURNAMENT PRESS CREDENTIALS TO NEWSPAPERS THAT PUBLIC I SHALL.
BUT THEY HAVE NEVER DONE SO. THESE HOLLOW THREATS ARE FURTHER
EVIDENCE OF THE FUTILITY OF THIS EXERCISE. SECONDLY WE HAVE
BEEN TOLD THAT THIS LEGISLATION, WHILE ADMITTEDLY NO MAN SEEP
A, WILL SEND A MESSAGE TO STUDENTS AND OTHERS THAT SPORTS
GAMBLING IS ILL LEGAL. AGAIN THERE IS A COMPLETE ABSENCE OF ANY
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EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE OR FACT-BASED TESTIMONY THAT AMERICA'S
COLLEGE STUDENTS FOR ADULTS FOR THAT MATTER, WILL HEED SUCH A
SO-CALLED MESSAGE. BY THIS LOGIC WE SHOULD REINSTATE
PROHIBITION ON SERVING ALCOHOL TO ADULTS OFFER THE AGE OF 2. SO
SEND A MESSAGE TOO MY -- OF 2. TO SEND A MESSAGE TO UNDER AGE
AND BINGE DRINE KERS ON CAM MUST. IT A MICE WITH EQUAL FORCE
THIS LEGISLATION. THE REAL MESSAGE LEGISLATION WILL SEND IS
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SHIRKING RESPONSIBILITY AND POINTING NINGS AT OTHERS IS THE
APPROPRIATE MANNER IN WHICH TO HANDLE A SERIOUS NATIONAL
PROBLEM. EVERYONE SHOULD AGREE A PROBLEM SO PERVASIVE ON
COLLEGE CAM MUSS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED COMPREHENSIVELY AND WITH A
SERIOUS COMMITMENT FROM THE NCAA AND IS MEMBER INSTITUTIONS
INCLUDING FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS AND APPROPRIATE LEGISLATION.
WHILE WE HEARD CONSIDERABLE RHETORIC AT OUR EXAMINERS COMMITTEE
HEARING CONCERNING WHAT THE NCAA INTEND TO TO ABOUT ILLEGAL
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DWAM BLINK ON COLLEGE CAM MUSTS THERE WAS VERY LITTLE TESTIMONY
CONCERNING WHAT CONCRETE STEPS THE NCAA HAS TONE AT THAT DATE.
FOR EXAMPLE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE EXECUTIVE COMELT EEP TESTIFIED
THAT DURING THE TEN YEARS HE HAS SERVED AS PRESIDENT OF HIS
UNIVERSITY, HE COULD NOT RECALL A SINGLE CASE OF A STUDENT
BEING EXPELLED OR OTHERWISE DISCIPLINED FOR ILLEGAL GAMBLING,
EVEN THOUGH HE ACKNOWLEDGED THERE ARE ILLEGAL STUDENT BOOK IS
ON HIS CAM MUST. WE ARE REMET HE HADLY TOLD BY THE SPONSORS OF
THIS STHAIGS THAT THE NCAA HAS PLNS TO STEP UP ITS
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ANTI-GAMBLING INITIATIVES. THE FACTS BELIE THIS ASSERTION. FOR
EXAMPLE, THE NCAA'S TOTAL OPERATING REVENUE FOR 1998-1999 WAS
$283 MILLION. WITHIN THIS OVERY'ALL BUDGET THERE WAS A LINE
ATEM FOR -- AND I QUOTE -- "SPORTS AGENTS AND GAMBLING" THAT
EQUALS $64,000. SIMILARLY THERE LINE-ITEM FOR 1999-2000 IS
$139,000 OUT OF A
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