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WHEN THE RESOLUTION PROMISCUOUSLY OPENS THE DOOR TO NATO
MILITARY ACTIONS ALMOST ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD." NOW TO CHANGE
THE NATURE OF A TREATY WITHOUT ASKING THE SENATE TO RAT NIGH
THE CHANGE OR TO DO IT WITHOUT DEBATING IT, TO DO IT SORT OF
PROMISCUOUSLY AS "THE NEW YORK TIMES" SUGGESTS, IS A DANGEROUS
THING. IT'S AN INAPPROPRIATE THING. AND I HAVE RAISED THIS
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ISSUE -- I RAISED IT BEFORE "THE NEW YORK TIMES" EDITORIAL, BUT
I'M VERY PLEASED THAT THEY WOULD SAY THIS -- WHAT THEY CALL THE
STARTLING EXPANSION OF NATO'S LICENSE TO CONDUCT MILITARY
OPERATIONS. I REALLY DON'T THINK YOU CAN EXPAND SUBSTANTIALLY A
TREATY'S LICENSE TO CONDUCT MILITARY OPERATIONS WITHOUT
CONSULTING THE SENATE -- OR SHOULDN'T. THEY SAID, IT HE DEMANDS
EXTENSIVE DEBATE. AND SO I PROPOSE THAT WE DEBATE IT AND I
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PROPOSE THAT WE CURTAIL THIS EXPANSIVE EXTENSION OF THE ABILITY
OF THE NATO ALLIANCE TO BE INVOLVED AROUND THE WORLD. AND
FRANKLY I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE SENATE
INSTEAD OF PROVIDING EXTENSIVE DEBATE IN THIS AREA IN WHICH THE
SENATE HAS BEEN LARGELY IGNORED BY AN ADMINISTRATION WHICH,
THROUGH TREATY-CREEP -- JUST EXPANDING THEIR OPERATIONS -- WILL
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CONVERT NATO FROM A DEFENSIVE TERRITORIAL OPPOSE REAGAN
ADMINISTRATION SO THAT THE INTEREST OF NEIGH HE TOW OPERATIONS
CAN BE PURSUED AROUND THE GLOBE WITH INTERNATIONAL DEPLOYMENTS
OF NATO FORCES, AS OPPOSED TO BEING LIMITED TO DEFENDING THE
NATO TERRITORY, THE SECURITY OF NATO NATIONS AND THE POLITICAL
INDEPENDENCE OF NATO NATIONS. "THE NEW YORK TIMES" PROPERLY
SAYS, THIS DEMANDS EXTENSIVE DEBATE, AND I'M SORRY TO SAY THAT
THE SENATE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD WALK AWAY FROM THE OBLIGATION
OF THE SENATE TO OVERSEE THE RATIFICATION OF ANY REAL CHANGE IN
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A TREATY. WE WOULD WALK AWAY FROM IT AND WE WOULD DO IT BY
VIRTUE OF SAYING, IT DOESN'T MERIT ANY DEBATE AT ALL BECAUSE
RATHER THAN ALLOW THIS AMENDMENT TO BE DEBATED, THE SENATE
CHOSE SIMPLY TO TABLE THE AMENDMENT. IT ISN'T EVERY DAY THAT I
AGREE WITH "THE NEW YORK TIMES" AND ITS EDITORIAL. BUT I THINK
IT'S PRETTY CLEAR HERE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST TAKE A FEW
MINUTES, AND I WOULD USE SOME OF THESE CHARTS, TO INDICATE THE
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MISSED OPPORTUNITY OF THE SENATE HERE TO LOOK CAREFULLY AT
WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE MISSION OF NATO, AND IT IS FOR THAT
REASON THAT I WILL -- AND I INTEND TO VOTE AGAINST THE
RATIFICATION OF THIS TREATY. I THINK THAT REASON ALONE -- THERE
MAY BE OTHER REASONS, AND I WOULDN'T SAY THAT -- BUT THIS
PROVIDES A TREMENDOUS QUESTION ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING TO NATO.
LET ME JUST REFER THE SENATE TO THE STATEMENT OF WILLIAM PERRY,
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THE IMMEDIATE PAST U.S. SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, WHEN THE NATO
TREATY WAS ARGUED FOR EXPANSION AND ENLARGEMENT, HE WAS ONE OF
THE ARCHITECTS OF THE TREATY EXPANSION THAT'S BEFORE US. HERE'S
WHAT HE SAYS. "THE ORIGINAL MISSION OF NATO -- DETERRING AN
ATTACK FROM THE SOVIET UNION -- IS OBVIOUSLY NO LONGER
RELEVANT. THE ORIGINAL GEOGRAPHICAL AREA OF NATO RESPONSIBILITY
IS NO LONGER SUFFICIENT. THE ORIGINAL MILITARY STRUCTURE OF
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NATO IS NO LONGER APPROPRIATE... THE NEW MISSIONS OF NATO" --
AND YOU KNOW, THIS DEBATE HASN'T BEEN ABOUT NEW MISSIONS. THIS
DEBATE HAS BEEN ABOUT THREE NEW COUNTRIES. BUR HERE THE
ARCHITECT OF THE EXPANSION SAID "THE NEW MISSIONS OF NATO
SHOULD BE PREVENTIVE DEFENSE -- CREATING THE CONDITIONS OF
PEACE IN EUROPE... THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA OF NATO INTERESTS
SHOULD BE ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD" -- THAT MEANS THAT THE AM BIT
OF DEPLOYMENT, THE ARENA FOR THE DEPLOYMENT OF NATO TROOPS,
INCLUDING YOUNG MEN APEDZ WOMEN FROM THE UNITED STATES, IS
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ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. I THINK BEFORE WE MAKE THAT KIND OF
CHANGE, WE OUGHT TO THINK VERY CAREFULLY. NO WONDER "THE NEW
YORK TIMES" SAYS "THAT STARTLING EXPANSION OF NATO'S LICENSE TO
CONDUCT MILITARY OPERATIONS DEMANDS EXTENSIVE DEBATE." I
SHUDDER TO THINK THAT WE CONSIDER TABLING THE MOTION, EXTENSIVE
DEBATE. BUT HERE'S WHAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE HAD TO SAY.
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT, QUOTE, ACCORDING TO "THE WASHINGTON POST,"
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"ALSO HAS URGED THAT AN EXPANDING NORTH ATLANTIC TREATY
ORGANIZATION MUST EXTEND ITS GEOGRAPHIC REACH BEYOND THE
EUROPEAN CONTINENT AND EVOLVE INTO A 'FORCE FOR PEACE FROM THE
MIDDLE EAST TO CENTRAL AFRICA.'" ALL OF US WANT TO SEE PEACE
ALL AROUND THE WORLD. WE ALL WANT PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. WE
ALL WANT PEACE IN CENTRAL AFRICA. BUT IF WE'RE INTERESTED IN
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EVOLVING A TREATY OF JUST SIMPLY CHANGE G# A TREATY BY
TREATY-CREEP, LETTING IT EXPAND ON ITS OWN, RATHER THAN HAVE A
REAL DISCUSSION OF THE ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY OF THE UNITED
STATES AND NATO IN MAINTAINING PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND
CENTRAL AFRICA AND CHANGING THE MISSION OF NATO FROM THE
DEFENSE OF THE NATO TERRITORY TO THE DEFENSE OF CENTRAL AFRICA
OR TO THE DEFENSE OF THE MIDDLE EAST, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT MERITS DISCUSSION. IT'S SAD THAT THE SENATE OF THE UNITED
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STATES DECIDED TO TURN ITS BACK FROM THAT KIND OF DISCUSSION
AND DECIDED THAT IT WOULD TABLE THAT KIND OF DISCUSSION. THIS
IS SERIOUS WHETHER WE ARE HE EA GOING TO BE SENDING YOUNG MEN
AND WOMEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO PERHAPS STAIN THE
SOIL OF AFRICA UNDER SOME NATO MISSION WITH ITS INTERNATIONAL
POLICING OPERATION NOT ENVIESAGED IN THE NATO TREATY NEVER
BEFORE THOUGHT A APPROPRIATE BECAUSE THE NATO TREATY WAS A
DEFENSE OF TERRITORY TREATY, DEFENDING THE TERRITORY OF THE
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MEMBER NATIONS. AND NOW BY EXPANSION THROUGH PRESS RELEASE AND
SPEECH, SECRETARY OF STATE SAYS WE'RE GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN
CENTRAL AFRICA AND THE MIDDLE EAST IN WAYS WE HADN'T EVER
ANTICIPATED. THIS TREATY IS GROWING AND IF WE AUTHORIZE GROWTH
BY PRESS RELEASE STATEMENT AND POLICY OF AN ADMINISTRATION,
WHAT'S THE VALUE OF THE UNITED STATES SENATE IN CONFIRMING
TREATIES, IN RATIFYING TREATIES?
IT WOULD JUST TAKE A SINGLE TREATY THAT ANY ADMINISTRATION THEN
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COULD EVOLVE INTO BHFER IT CHOSE. I THINK WE OUGHT TO THINK
SERIOUSLY ABOUT ALLOWING AN ORGANIZATION, THE MOST SUCCESSFUL
MILITARY COLLECTIVE DEFENSE ORGANIZATION IN THE HISTORY OF THE
WORLD, TO BE SIMPLY EVOLVED INTO SOMETHING FOR WHICH IT WAS
NEVER INTENDED, JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT WAS NEVER
INTENDED, LET ME RE REFER TO YOU THE STATEMENT OF SENATOR TOM
CONNALLY. TOM CONNALLY IS SNOT ONE OF OUR CONTEMPORARIES BUT
WAS A SENATOR, CHAIRMAN OF THE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE IN
THE YEAR 1949 WHEN THE NATO ALLIANCE FIRST CAME INTO EXISTENCE.
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HERE'S WHAT TOM CONNOLLY SAID. "LET US NOT FORGET" -- YOU A
ASOME WORDS BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE IN THE -- AWESOME WORDS
BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF FORGETTING -- "THAT
THIS TREATY IS LIMITED IN SCOPE." WAS TO BE LIMITED TO THE
NORTH ATLANTIC TREATY ORGANIZATION'S MEMBER STATES AND NOW
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
BEYOND EUROPE TO CENTRAL AFRICA. "THIS TREATY IS LIMITED IN
SCOPE. I QUOTE AGAIN SENATOR TOM CONNALLY. "ITS MAIN PURPOSE IS
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TO MAINTAIN THES PEACE AND SECURITY OF THE NORTH ATLANTIC AREA.
WE DO NOT PROPOSE TO STRETCH ITS TERMS TO COVER THE ENTIRE
GLOBE." WELL, THE ELASTICITY OF STRETCHED TREATIES HAS REACHED
NEW LIMITS OR PERHAPS FOUND NO LIMITS IN WHAT WE ARE WILLING TO
DO HERE TODAY. THE SUGGESTION OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES" THAT THIS
KIND OF EXPANSION, THIS PROMISCUOUS OPENING OF THE DOOR TO
MILITARY DEPLOYMENTS AROUND THE WORLD DOESN'T MERIT DISCUSSION
AT ALL. IT MERITED TABLING. THAT'S A SAD DAY. A GLOBAL NATO?
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THAT'S NOT WHAT TOM CONNALLY THOUGHT WE HAD. AS A MATTER OF
FACT, NATO'S FIRST STRATEGIC CONCEPT REALLY FOCUSED ON TWO
THINGS -- DEFENSE PLANNING LIMITED TO THE DEFENSE OF THE TREATY
AREA AND NATO MILITARY AUTHORITIES HAVE NO RESPONSIBILITY OR
AUTHORITY EXCEPT WITH RESPECT TO INCIDENTS WHICH ARE COVERED BY
ARTICLES 5 AND 6 OF THE NORTH ATLANTIC TREATY. THE DEFENSIVE
AREA TREATY. IT WANG TO BE SOMETHING THE TROOPS OF WHICH COULD
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BE DEPLOYED LIKE A MINI UNITED NATIONS WITH A STANDING ARMY
WITH HOT SPOTS AROUND THE GLOBE FOR SO-CALLED INTERNATIONAL
POLICING OR SO-CALLED PEACEKEEPING. IT WAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT
DEFENDED THE NATO NATIONS AND TO CHANGE THAT I THOUGHT IT MUST
BE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO CHANGE A TREATY LIKE THIS TO COME
BEFORE THE UNITED STATES SENATE TO SEEK RATIFICATION. HOWEVER,
THESE STRATEGIC CONCEPTS OF THE PAST HAVE BEEN SUPERSEDED BY
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THE STRATEGIC CONCEPT IN 1991. AND HERE INSTEAD OF HAVING THE
DEFENSE OF TERRITORY AS BEING PRIMARY, WE FIND "TO PROVIDE ONE
OF THE INDISPENSABLE FOUNDATIONS FOR A STABLE SECURITY
ENVIRONMENT IN EUROPE..." ALL OF EUROPE THIS TIME; WE'RE BEYOND
THE NATO NATIONS. "IN WHICH NO COUNTRY WOULD BE ABLE TO
INTIMIDATE OR COERCE ANY EUROPEAN NATION" -- TREATY
TREATY-CREEP. WE'VE GONE FROM THE MEMBER NATIONS TO THE
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EUROPEAN CONTINENT AS A WHOLE -- "OR TO IMPOSE HEGEMONN THROUGH
THE THREAT OR USE OF FORCE." TALK ABOUT THE ABILITY TO DEPLOY
TROOPS ALL THROUGH EUROPE -- AND WE'VE SEEN THAT OUT-OF-AREA
DEPLOYMENT PLOYMENTS BECOME THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THE NO
ALLIANCE. NUMBER TWO, "TO SERVE, AS PROVIDED FOR IN ARTICLE 4
OF THE NORTH ATLANTIC TREATY, AS A TRANS-ATLANTIC FORUM FOR
ALLIED CONSULTATIONS ON ANY ISSUES THAT AFFECT THEIR VITAL
INTERESTS," OH-OH -- WE'VE VED FROM THE DEFENSIVE TERRITORY TO
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THE DEFENSIVE SECURITY OF THE NATIONS TO THE INTEGRITY OF VITAL
NATIONS TO VITAL INTERESTS. I SUPPOSE THAT COULD INCLUDE TRADE
INTERESTS OUSH INTERESTS IN HUMANITARIAN CONCERNS OR INTERESTS
IN CULTURAL EXCHANGES EXCHANGES. WE FIND OURSELVES WITH A REAL
POTENTIAL FOR THE EXPANSION OF THIS TREATY. ALL OF A SUDDEN,
THE COLLECTIVE DEFENSE OF THE TERRITORY OF THE NATO NATIONS IS
NO LONGER THE PRIME TASK, ACCORDING TO THE STRATEGIC CONCEPTS
OF 1991. NO, WHERE DO WE FIND THE COLLECTIVE DEFENSE?
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WE FIND THEM DOWN IN THREE AND FOUR. THEY'VE BEEN PLACED AT THE
BOTTOM OF THE LIST. THERE IS TEA A NEW AGENERAL SDA FOR NATO
NATIONS. NOT THE DEFENSE OF TERRITORY. IT'S THE DEFENSE OF
VITAL INTERESTS. NO WONDER THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DEPLOYING
TROOPS IN AFRICA, IN INTERNATIONAL POLICING OPERATIONS. NO
WONDER SECRETARY PAREY FAUKED ABOUT DEPLOYING TROOPS --
SECRETARY PERRY TALKED ABOUT DEPLOYING TROOPS AROUND THE GLOBE.
THE NATO NATIONS COULD HAVE INTERESTS AS FAR AS WA AS WHO KNOWS WHERE?
IT MAY BE THAT THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE THING. I THINK WHEN "THE
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NEW YORK TIMES" SAID "THIS DEMANDS EXTENSIVE DEBATE," THEY
WEREN'T SAYING THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD
THING. I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD THING, BUT IT SAID THAT WE
SHOULDN'T AT LEAST DO THIS. WITHOUT LOOKING CAREFULLY AT IT.
AND WHEN THE TIME CAME THIS EVENING TO LOOK CAREFULLY AT THIS,
WE FOUND THE SENATE SAYING, WE'LL TABLE IT. WE WON'T CONSIDER
IT. AND AS WE ALL KNOW HERE, A MOTION TO TABLE CUTS OFF DEBATE.
IT DOESN'T PROVIDE FOR DEBATE. LET ME JUST SAY THAT, WHEN THE
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TREATY WAS ENTERED INTO, IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE
INTEREST AREA WAS. AND HERE'S JUST FROM ARTICLE 6 6, AND IT
DEFINES WHEN THE TERRITORY WAS TO BE DEFENDED. "ANY OF THE
PARTIES IN EUROPE OR NORTH AMERICA, ON THE ALGERIAN DEPARTMENTS
OF FRANCE, ON THE TERRITORY OF TURKEY OR ON THE ISLANDS UNDER
THE JURISDICTION OF ANY OF THE PARTIES IN THE NORTH ATLANTIC
AREA NORTH OF THE TOPIC -- TROP TROPIC OF CANCER." SOUNDS LIKE
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A LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF A DEED TO THE HOUSE. IT'S SPECIFIC. IT'S
PARTICULAR. DOESN'T SAY THAT YOU DEPLOY RESOURCES ALL AROUND
THE GLOBE TO PROTECT INTERESTS. IT SAYS THAT RESOURCES ARE TO
BE USED TO DEFEND TERRITORY. WE'VE SEEN THIS CHANGE AND IT'S
REFLECTED OVER AND OVER AGAIN. A POINT THAT I WOULD MAKE IS
THIS: THAT WHEN YOU CHANGE THE NATURE OF AN INSTITUTION, YOU
HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY, AT LEAST AS MEMBERS OF THE UNITED
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STATES, TO DO SO CAREFULLY. AND WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE DEBATE ON
THIS AMENDMENT TODAY. WE SIMPLY HAD A MOTION TO TABLE THE
MOMENT -- THE AMENDMENT IN HASTE TO MOVE ON TO OTHER THINGS.
HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CUT DEFENSE AND YOU START THINKING
ABOUT GLOBAL DEPLOYMENTS. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I FEAR IS
THAT THE SAME PROBLEM THAT HAS ATTENDED OUR OWN DEPLOYMENT OF
OUR OWN ARMED FORCES AROUND THE WORLD IN PEACEKEEPING AND
POLICING OPERATIONS COULD HAPPEN TO NATO, AND, YOU KNOW, OUR
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ARMED FORCES ARE THREATENSED BECAUSE WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS
WILLINGNESS IN THE ADMINISTRATION TO DEPLOY BUT NOT MUCH
WILLINGNESS TO FUND. SO WE CUT THE FUNDING AND CUT THE FUNDING
AND CUT THE FUNDING AND WE KEEP SENDING MORE TROOPS, MORE
DIFFERENT PLACES AND AS YOU DO THAT YOU WONDER WHETHER THE
RESOURCE THAT'S DEVOTED TO THE MILITARY AND DEFENSE OF THIS
COUNTRY IS BEING IMPAIRED. AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT THERE ARE
INSTANCES WHERE IT IS. YOU KNOW, POLAND, HUNGARY AND THE KHECT
REPUBLIC COMPRISE 301
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