FXUS04 KWBC 010722 QPFPFD QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 321 AM EDT SAT MAY 01 2004 PRELIM DAY 1 AND DAY 2 QPF DISCUSSION VALID MAY 02/1200 UTC THRU MAY 03/1200 UTC REFERENCE AWIPS GRAPHICS UNDER...PRECIP ACCUM - 24HR THE 18Z MDLS WERE IN VRY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE 12Z MDLS..AT LEAST MASS FIELD-WISE..SO MADE ONLY MINOR CHGS TO THE PRELIM DAY 1 QPF. DAY 1... ...MID-LOWER MS VALLEY-LOWER OH VALLEY/SOUTHEAST TX... FAVORABLE UPR JET DYNAMICS PERSIST ACRS THESE AREAS AS ELONGATED RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION TO UPPER LEVEL JET INTENSIFYING TO 130 KT OVER THE GRT LAKES PROVIDES DIVERGENCE ALOFT ACRS ALL OF THE MID-LOWER MS VALLEY/SOUTHEAST TX. GFS INDICATES STRIPE OF 1.5-1.75 INCH PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES FM AR-TN SOUTH TO LOWER TX AND LA- MS...WITH EMBEDDED 2 INCH MAXIMA. LOWEST BEST LIFTED INDICES OF -3 TO -5 ARE FCST BY BOTH THE ETA AND GFS OVER COASTAL TX. THE 00Z GFS SHOWED LIKELY GRID SCALE PROBS AGAIN OVER LOWER TX...WITH TOTAL AMOUNTS SEVEN TO EIGHT TIMES THE CONVECTIVE COMPONENT OF GFS PRECIPITATION. THE PROGRESSIVE NATURE OF FRONT SHD PRECLUDE 4-7 INCH AMTS OVER SOUTHEAST TX AS THE GFS LOW LEVEL INFLOW AND PW AXIS MOVE ACRS TX INTO LA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO. ETA AMTS OVER MOST OF THE THREAT AREA APPEAR UNDERDONE GIVEN FAVORABLE COMBINATION OF MOISTURE/LIFT/INSTABILITY COMING TOGETHER OVER THREAT AREAS PLUS CONTINUITY FROM ONGOING CONVECTION ACRS MO-AR-TX. AREA WIDE ONE TO TWO INCH AMTS ARE FCST AND WHERE TRAINING OCCURS LOCAL THREE TO FOUR INCH AMTS ARE POSSIBLE. CONVECTION HAS AGAIN DEVELOPED EARLY OVER SOUTH LA AND APPROACHING FRONT AND HIGH PW/MOISTURE CONVERGENCE AXIS WILL ONLY CONTINUE THREAT OF SHOWERS/STORMS...SO THREAT AREA WAS EXTENDED FURTHER EAST ACRS SOUTHEAST LA WHERE FF GUIDANCE VALUES WERE 1-1.5 INCHES DUE TO YESTERDAY'S RAINS. ...SOUTHEAST/ FL.. AXIS OF DEEP LAYERED MSTR..PWS NEAR 1.75 INCHES..IS EXPECTED TO FOCUS OVER EAST SC/NC AHEAD OF WEAK LOW LEVEL DISTURBANCES AND PERSISTENT UPR LEVEL DIFFLUENCE. THE ETA QPF MAXIMA OVER SC-ADJ NC APPEARS OVERLY FOCUSED GIVEN PROGRESSIVE NATURE OF ONGOING ACTIVITY AND PROGRESSIVE FCST OF WEAK SHRTWVS IN MULTIPLE LEVELS OF THE ATMOSPHERE. MANUAL QPF LEANED MORE TWRDS GFS AS GFS HAS A BETTER HANDLE ON ONGOING ACTIVITY MOVG INTO SC FURTHER NORTH THAN ETA FCST...PLUS GFS HAS SUPPORT FROM CANADIAN GLOBAL AND UKMET MODELS WITH FCST OF HIGHER AMTS IN EAST NC. THE GFS ALSO FCSTS HIGHER AMTS OVER NORTHERN PENINSULA OF FL. THE GFS IS FAVORED HERE TOO AS THE ETA SUPPORTS GREATER CVG AMOUNTS THROUGH ITS FCST OF 1000-500 MB RH OF 70-90 PERCENT PLUS DIURNAL INSTABILITY AND SEA BREEZE BOUNDARIES TO PROVIDE ASCENT. DAY 2... THE ERN CONUS IS THE FOCUS OF QPF DURG THE DAY 2 PD. ALL MDLS MOV H5 TROF EWD AS A SFC LOW MOVS FROM NT NY STATE INTO SRN CAN. MDL DIFFS ARE APPARENT ERLY ON. THE GFS IS MORE AMPLIFIED THAN THE ETA WITH ITS H5 TROF. THE CAN IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE GFS. THE UKMET CONTINUES TO BE FASTEST AND WKST WITH THIS SYS AND IS THE OUTLIER...BY FAR...WITH ITS SOLN. THE ETA AND GFS HAVE ALSO TRENDED SLOWER THAN THEIR PREV RUNS WITH THE UPR TROF AND SFC LOW/CDFNT IN THE ERN CONUS. THERE IS VERY STRONG UVV FCST ACRS THE MID ATLC WITH THIS SYS AND STRONG DYNAMICS...WITH UPR JET ENERGY AOA 130 KTS FROM THE SERN CONUS INTO SRN CAN. STRONG LLJ...AOA 30 KTS...FROM THE SW WILL KEEP ABUNDANT MOISTURE OVER THE AREA. PWS ARE AOA 1.50 INCHES ALG THE ERN SEABOARD. ECMWF...CAN...AND TO A LESSER EXTENT THE GFS AND ETA FCST SEVERAL SFC WAVES TO MOV NWD ALG THE SLOW MOVG CDFNT. CONFIDENCE IS LOW WITH RESPECT TO THE TIMING...STRENGTH AND LOCATION OF ANY OF THESE WAVES. HOWEVER...THEY WILL HELP TO ENHANCE ANY QPF WITH SHWRS/TSTMS IN THEIR PATH. MAN PROGS FAVORED THE GFS/CAN SOLNS WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS. THESE SOLNS SUPPORT THE SLOWER TIMING OF THE TROF AND SFC CDFNT. IF THESE TRENDS CONTINUE...EXPECT AN EVEN SLOWER MOTION NEXT CYCLE. OF COURSE...TIMING DIFFS WILL AFFECT WHAT PD PRECIP FALLS IN FOR A GIVEN AREA. DESPITE THE MDL MASS FIELD DIFFS...OVERALL QPF PATN OF GFS/CAN AND ETA ARE SIMILAR AND WERE GENLY FOLLOWED. ELSEWHERE...ACRS THE MID-MS VLY...SOME LIGHT PRECIP IS EXPECTED AS TROF PASSES THRU THE AREA AND SEVERAL S/WVS SWING THRU. THERE IS SOME DECENT UVV...BUT MOISTURE IS LACKING AND QPF WILL BE LIGHT. ACRS THE PAC NW...GENLY LIGHT QPF AS S/WVS MOV INTO SRN CAN AHEAD OF UPR LOW IN THE N PAC. 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