Hurricane Tracking Technologies
Dr. Ed Rodgers and Dr. Fritz Hasler
Goddard Space Flight Center
[ Andrea/Ames - 12 - 11:11:02 ]
Welcome "Eye of the Storm" participants. We will begin our chat with Dr.
Edward Rodgers and Dr. Fritz Hasler at 12:00 pm Pacific / 3:00 pm Eastern.
[ Andrea/Ames - 14 - 11:12:03 ]
Dr. Fritz Hasler is a graduate of the University of Wisconsin with a Ph.D.
in Meteorology. He has also studied at the University of Munich Germany.
He has spent most of his 25 year professional career in the Goddard Laboratory
for Atmospheres, following terms as Senior Scientist at the National Center
for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) in Boulder CO and as Visiting Scientist
at the Laboratoire de Météorologie Dynamique in Paris France.
[ Andrea/Ames - 15 - 11:13:09 ]
Dr. Hasler is famous for his spectacular images and animations of hurricanes
and severe storms which have appeared in scientific and popular literature
and on national and international public and network television. You may
want check out some of his work at - http://rsd.gsfc.nasa.gov/rsd/
[ Andrea/Ames - 16 - 11:15:08 ]
Dr. Edward Rodgers is a graduate of the Colorado State University with
a Ph.D. in Meterorology. Dr. Rodgers has worked at Goddard Space Flight
Center in the Laboratory for Atmospheres for 28 years. His research is
focused on remote sensing and understanding of of tropical and extratropical
cyclones. His work also involves the estimation of precipitation from
satellite observations.
[ Andrea/Ames - 17 - 11:58:30 ]
Welcome to the chat on Hurricane Tracking Technologies. We will soon be
joined by our NASA experts. We welcome your questions!
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 18 - 12:09:57
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This is Dr Hasler I'm on line
[ EdwardRodgers - 19 - 12:10:32
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RE: [Andrea/Ames] Welcome to the chat on Hurricane Tracking
Technologies. We will soon be joined by our NASA experts. We welcome your
questions!
Good afternoon. Do you have any questions concerning tropical cyclone?
[ Andrea/Ames - 20 - 12:10:52 ]
Welcome Dr. Hasler!
[ WillHollister/PerkiomenValleyHS - 22 - 12:11:01 ]
Hurricanes appear to be slow moving storms that allow enough time for
people to move to safety and to provide some protection to their property.
How accurate(%)are you in predicting the track of a hurricane with a 2
day notice to the towns in it's path? How does this accuracy compare to
10 years ago? What are the primary factors contributing to the increase
in accuracy over the years?
[ Andrea/Ames - 23 - 12:13:42 ]
Welcome Dr. Rodgers!
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 24 - 12:13:43
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Will: You ask difficult questions: I would address that one to Jerry Jarrel
at the Hurricane Center in Miami or Hugh Willoughby at NOAA AOML in Miami
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 25 - 12:14:51
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Hugh Willoughby can be reached at willough@pop.aoml.noaa.gov
[ Shari-Ms.Harris/St.MarksEpiscopalSchool - 26 - 12:15:03 ]
What steering currents affect tropical storms once they enter the Gulf
of Mexico? Is it more the ocean currents, the pressure systems on the
land or both? In Houston, there was quite a bit of nervousness about Georges
stalling close to the coast, then finding its way to the Texas coast.
Thankfully for us, it didn't. Many along the Texas coast are still recovering
from Tropical Storms Danielle and Frances and couldn't handle much morre
any time soon.
[ Will/PerkiomenValleyHS-WillHollister/PerkiomenValleyHS - 27
- 12:15:08 ]
Hurricanes appear to be slow moving storms that allow enough time for
people to move to safety and to provide some protection to their property.
How accurate(%)are you in predicting the track of a hurricane with a 2
day notice to the towns in it's path? How does this accuracy compare to
10 years ago? What are the primary factors contributing to the increase
in accuracy over the years?
[ Melinda-MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool - 28 - 12:15:53 ]
Hello! I am sorry that I am late! :-)
[ Melinda-MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool - 29 - 12:17:51 ]
Why did Hurricane Danielle follow in the same path as Hurricane Bonnie?
Was it the jet stream?
[ EdwardRodgers - 30 - 12:17:54 ]
Good afternoon. Are there any question concerning tropical cyclones?
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 32 - 12:18:02
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Will: I think most of the current forecasts are based on statistics for
the given location and path of the storm and the current weather patterns.
The goal is to have a 3D numerical model of the hurricane nested in the
3D numerical model of the large scale weather patterns. However, this
kind of modeling hasn't worked well yet.
[ Jason-WoodsideMiddleSchool - 33 - 12:18:33 ]
What technologies do you use to track cyclones?
[ Will/PerkiomenValleyHS-WillHollister/PerkiomenValleyHS - 34
- 12:18:44 ]
Hurricane Bonnie really messed up my vacation in Avalon, N.J. at the end
of August. It seemed like it stalled over North Carolina for 2-3 days
and sent wind and rain as far north as New Jersey. Any idea what caused
Bonnie to move so slow and stop for awhile?
[ MrsBlazer-Mrs.Blazer/MiamiViewSchool - 35 - 12:19:17 ]
My class wanted to know what is the cost of the instruments you use to
track storms
[ Kate-WoodsideMiddleSchool - 36 - 12:19:33 ]
What role do satellites play in tracking hurricanes?
[ MrsBlazer-Mrs.Blazer/MiamiViewSchool - 37 - 12:20:55 ]
The kids also wanted to know the types of courses in college that are
necessary to be a meteorologist and if high school students can do internships
with storm trackers?
[ EdwardRodgers - 39 - 12:21:11 ]
RE: [Shari- Ms.Harris/St.MarksEpiscopalSchool] What steering
currents affect tropical storms once they enter the Gulf of Mexico? Is
it more the ocean currents, the pressure systems on the land or both?
In Houston, there was quite a bit of nervousness about Georges stalling
close to the coast, then finding its way to the Texas coast. Thankfully
for us, it didn't. Many along the Texas coast are still recovering from
Tropical Storms Danielle and Frances and couldn't handle much morre any
time soon.
Steering currents near the middle troposphere usually influence tropical
cyclone motion over all regions that tropical cyclones exist.
[ Shari-Ms.Harris/St.MarksEpiscopalSchool - 40 - 12:22:52 ]
Whoops! Maybe it was TS Charley, not Danielle that hit South Texas and
really hurt the Texas Valley.
[ MrsBlazer-Mrs.Blazer/MiamiViewSchool - 41 - 12:23:00 ]
Having seen disaster shows, the kids want to know if the satellites or
other instruments can see or be a part of the eye of a hurricane?
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 42 - 12:24:05
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Will and Shari: The paths of hurricanes are controlled by the large scale
weather patterns. Depending on how the hurricane is situated with respect
to the pattern, just about any motion is possible.
[ MrsBlazer-Mrs.Blazer/MiamiViewSchool - 43 - 12:24:52 ]
since there are 3 names for hurricanes (hurricanes,cyclones, and typhoons)
are they any differences or is it just local names
[ EdwardRodgers - 44 - 12:25:25 ]
RE: [Jason-WoodsideMiddleSchool] What technologies do you
use to track cyclones?
Tropical cyclone motion is forecast using atmospheric models that discribe
the future steering currents..
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 45 - 12:25:46
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RE: [MrsBlazer-Mrs.Blazer/MiamiViewSchool] Having seen disaster
shows, the kids want to know if the satellites or other instruments can
see or be a part of the eye of a hurricane?
Mrs Blazer: Satellites can easily see into the eye of a hurricane. Check
out our web site at rsd.gsfc.nasa.gov/rsd
[ MrsBlazer-Mrs.Blazer/MiamiViewSchool - 46 - 12:25:59 ]
is there evidence in the ocean that a hurricane has been there---how deep
into the ocean does a hurricane's effects go?
[ Melinda-MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool - 47 - 12:27:20 ]
Do you allow people do travel in the hurricane planes with you, or do
they have to have a degree or something? If you do, how old do they have
to be?
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 48 - 12:27:42
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RE: [MrsBlazer-Mrs.Blazer/MiamiViewSchool] since there are
3 names for hurricanes (hurricanes,cyclones, and typhoons) are they any
differences or is it just local names
A hurrcane going West across the International Date line becomes a typhoon.
Cylone is a generic term e.g. Tropical Cyclone
[ Melinda-MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool - 49 - 12:27:56 ]
Do you allow people do travel in the hurricane planes with you, or do
they have to have a degree or something? If you do, how old do they have
to be?
[ Shari-Ms.Harris/St.MarksEpiscopalSchool - 50 - 12:30:12 ]
We have a big cold (or rather a cool) front coming in right now. Will
this affect the possibilities of a TS or hurricane steering into our area?
Or will it only be affected if the water really cools off?
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 51 - 12:30:20
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RE: [Melinda- MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool] Do you allow
people do travel in the hurricane planes with you, or do they have to
have a degree or something? If you do, how old do they have to be?
I have never traveled in a hurricane plane, but my good friend Peter Black
of NOAA Hurricane Research Division has made over 450 flights into hurricanes.
Almost all of the crews are made up of pilots, technicians and researchers
[ Andrea/Ames - 52 - 12:30:36 ]
RE: [Melinda- MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool] Do you allow
people do travel in the hurricane planes with you, or do they have to
have a degree or something? If you do, how old do they have to be?
Melinda - This question may be better asked to the hurricane hunters -
we will meet them during the next two live events.
[ Melinda-MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool - 53 - 12:30:42 ]
Has a hurricane plane ever been trapped in the eye and it couldn't get
out? Has any plane crashed in the ocean while collecting data?
[ EdwardRodgers - 54 - 12:31:23 ]
RE: [Kate-WoodsideMiddleSchool] What role do satellites play
in tracking hurricanes?
Temperature profiles, winds at the cirrus and cloud base level, and middle-tropospheric
water vapor patterns can be measured from satellite. These satellite observations
can be used in animated form or through atmospheric models to help forecast
tropical cyclone motion, particularly in data void areas.
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 55 - 12:32:38
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RE: [Melinda- MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool] Do you allow
people do travel in the hurricane planes with you, or do they have to
have a degree or something? If you do, how old do they have to be?
You would have to be old enough to be a pilot, technician or researcher.
My friend Peter has a PhD, but I'm sure some of the others have BS or
MS degrees.
[ Melinda-MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool - 56 - 12:33:10 ]
Thank you Fritz Hasler Visioneer for answering that for me? Is there any
way that I could get a hold of Peter Black? Does he have email? If so,
what is it?
[ Melinda-MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool - 57 - 12:34:03 ]
Thank you Andrea!! I will be sure to make it to those live events!!
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 58 - 12:35:08
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RE: [MrsBlazer-Mrs.Blazer/MiamiViewSchool] is there evidence
in the ocean that a hurricane has been there---how deep into the ocean
does a hurricane's effects go?
The effects on the ocean are caused by the vertical mixing of the water
by the hurricane winds. I think they only extend down a 100ft or so.
[ EdwardRodgers - 59 - 12:35:13 ]
RE: [MrsBlazer-Mrs.Blazer/MiamiViewSchool] since there are
3 names for hurricanes (hurricanes,cyclones, and typhoons) are they any
differences or is it just local names
Tropical cyclones with winds greater than 74 miles per hour are called
hurricanes in the Western Atlantic and Eastern Pacific, typhoons in the
Western Pacific, and cyclones in the Indian Oceans and southern hemispheric
regions.
[ EdwardRodgers - 60 - 12:36:56 ]
RE: [Shari- Ms.Harris/St.MarksEpiscopalSchool] We have a
big cold (or rather a cool) front coming in right now. Will this affect
the possibilities of a TS or hurricane steering into our area? Or will
it only be affected if the water really cools off?
Cold fronts, which are associated with middle tropospheric troughs will
usually steer the tropical cyclone to higher latitudes.
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 61 - 12:38:00
]
RE: [Melinda- MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool] Thank you
Fritz Hasler Visioneer for answering that for me? Is there any way that
I could get a hold of Peter Black? Does he have email? If so, what is
it?
Peter can be reached at black@aoml.noaa.gov However he is very busy this
time of year and often doesn't respond to his email. Give him a try. Stan
Goldenburg at goldenberg@aoml.noaa.gov might respond better. His house
was destroyed by Hurricane Andrew with him in it.
[ EdwardRodgers - 62 - 12:39:34 ]
RE: [Melinda- MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool] Has a hurricane
plane ever been trapped in the eye and it couldn't get out? Has any plane
crashed in the ocean while collecting data?
I believe there was at least one plane that flew out of Guam that had
engine problems, but never made it back.
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 63 - 12:39:57
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RE: [Melinda- MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool] Has a hurricane
plane ever been trapped in the eye and it couldn't get out? Has any plane
crashed in the ocean while collecting data?
Peter's plane nearly crashed one time when his plane hit extreme turbulence.
I don't know of any crashes.
[ Melinda-MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool - 64 - 12:40:00 ]
This year there has been a total of eleven tropical storms/hurricanes
so far this year. Is that a record just October, or was there another
year that had more? 1995?
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 65 - 12:43:05
]
RE: [FritzHaslerVisioneer] Peter's plane nearly crashed
one time when his plane hit extreme turbulence. I don't know of any crashes.
The flights are mostly very long and bumpy and boring while flying through
the clouds. Then you get a spectacular view when you come out into the
clear eye. After 15 min or so you fly back into the hurricane eye wall.
[ Melinda-MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool - 66 - 12:43:22 ]
When you predict a hurricane's track, do you usually make the right predictions?
What about hurricane warnings, watches, tropical warnings, watches? Do
you predict those right?
[ Melinda-MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool - 67 - 12:43:46 ]
When you predict a hurricane's track, do you usually make the right predictions?
What about hurricane warnings, watches, tropical warnings, watches? Do
you predict those right?
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 68 - 12:44:19
]
RE: [Melinda- MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool] This year
there has been a total of eleven tropical storms/hurricanes so far this
year. Is that a record just October, or was there another year that had
more? 1995?
1995 is the record in recent history
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 69 - 12:46:15
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RE: [Melinda- MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool] When you predict
a hurricane's track, do you usually make the right predictions? What about
hurricane warnings, watches, tropical warnings, watches? Do you predict
those right?
The next time we have a storm follow it on the CNN pages internet they
always give the forecasts. Ithought they did a great job with Georges.
You be the judge
[ June-SeattleWA - 70 - 12:47:02 ]
Are the technologies expensive? Which technologies help the most in tracking
hurricanes?
[ Matt-SeattleWA - 71 - 12:48:04 ]
Sorry we are late. How did you track hurricanes before you had all of
the technology?
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 72 - 12:49:38
]
RE: [June-SeattleWA] Are the technologies expensive? Which
technologies help the most in tracking hurricanes?
Another tough question: Good observations, good computer models and long
years of research are the things that improve the forecasts
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 73 - 12:50:57
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RE: [Matt-SeattleWA] Sorry we are late. How did you track
hurricanes before you had all of the technology?
Matt: My son's name is Matt he is 16. If you read the early explorers
accounts of hurricanes you know that they had no idea what was going on.
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 74 - 12:52:09
]
RE: [Matt-SeattleWA] Sorry we are late. How did you track
hurricanes before you had all of the technology?
Later they new that they generally moved from East to West, but not how
fast or exactly where.
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 75 - 12:52:50
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RE: [Matt-SeattleWA] Sorry we are late. How did you track
hurricanes before you had all of the technology?
Once they could fly airplanes into the storms every day they could track
them pretty well
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 76 - 12:54:11
]
RE: [Matt-SeattleWA] Sorry we are late. How did you track
hurricanes before you had all of the technology?
With the advent of Geostationary satellites in 1966 we could track the
storms every hour durning the day in 1974 we could track them day & night
[ FritzHaslerVisioneer - 77 - 12:54:57
]
It's been fun! Sorry, but I have to sign off now.
[ Melinda-MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool - 78 - 12:55:04 ]
I think that you predict perfect!! I have tracked every hurricane or tropical
storm this year with your data and I almost predicted the same as NCH
did!! :-)
[ EdwardRodgers - 79 - 12:55:58 ]
RE: [Melinda- MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool] This year
there has been a total of eleven tropical storms/hurricanes so far this
year. Is that a record just October, or was there another year that had
more? 1995?
1969 was another prolific tropical cyclone yesr.
[ Melinda-MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool - 80 - 12:55:59 ]
Good bye Fritz Haslter Visioneer!! Thank you for chatting with us! I have
to go also! Goodbye!!
[ Melinda-MelindaFay/HeartChristianSchool - 81 - 12:56:12 ]
Good bye Fritz Haslter Visioneer!! Thank you for chatting with us! I have
to go also! Goodbye!!
[ Matt-SeattleWA - 82 - 12:56:27 ]
Thanks for your answers Dr. Hasler - I am a few years younger than your
son.
[ EdwardRodgers - 83 - 12:57:02 ]
RE: [June-SeattleWA] Are the technologies expensive? Which
technologies help the most in tracking hurricanes?
Yes, Atmospheric models
[ Andrea/Ames - 85 - 13:02:09 ]
I would like to thank Dr. Rodgers and Dr. Hasler for joining us. Your
work plays such an important role in helping us prevent disaster resulting
from hurricanes.
[ Andrea/Ames - 89 - 13:05:24 ]
Thank yor for your time today! We enjoyed your questions and answers very
much!
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