Here are the messages between 20071201 and 20071231. 1. Re: BASINS 4 Update Nov. 2007 (b4-1107) 2. Problems running HSPEXP 3. Auto calibration to model 4. Re: Auto calibration to model 5. RE: Auto calibration to model 6. RE: Auto calibration to model 7. Re: Auto calibration to model 8. Generate input time series less than 1 hr interval 9. Getting Started 10. Re: Getting Started 11. RE: Getting Started 12. Calibrating AVSWAT 13. PEST Execution 14. Re: PEST Execution 15. RE: PEST Execution 16. RE: PEST Execution 17. RE: PEST Execution 18. RE: Does anyone have a geocoding solution? 19. Re: Does anyone have a geocoding solution? 20. BASINS used in Europe? ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 1 X-lyris-Id: 163788 Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:14:43 -0500 From: Yingmei Liu Subject: Re: BASINS 4 Update Nov. 2007 (b4-1107) Hi, I have some questions about the latest version of BASINS to be confirmed: 1. HSPF version 12 is packed with BASINS 3.1 before. What about the HSPF in= =20 the new updated BASINS 4? 2. The HSPF 12 in BASINS 3.1 has a restriction on the total number of=20 operations set at 500. Is there some update with this in the new released=20 BASINS 4? 3. The automatic delineation interface in BASINS 3.1 give the opportunity=20 to remove some outlets to delete very small segments created by the=20 automatic delineation. Is there similar function in BASINS 4 for doing this? And, how to do= this? Thank you very much, Yingmei Liu At 11:30 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: >A new BASINS 4 update which updated the open source GIS MapWindow to the >latest version 4.4, added GRID GIS data format, fixed a few bugs, fixed >some broken data links, and added/updated new meteorologic (Met data) >time series data (WDM files) with utilities to be used with HSPF model. >See the release note below. > >The new update replaces the original BASINS 4 (released in April 2007). >Please download the new BASINS 4 (b4-1107) at >http://www.epa.gov/waterscience/ftp/basins/system/BASINS4/ >---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------- >BASINS 4.0 Update -- 2007-11-01 > >Any previous version of BASINS 4 should be UNINSTALLED before installing >this update. > >If this computer has BASINS 3.1 installed: >Adding BASINS 4 will replace some of the files used by BASINS 3.1. >Both should still function properly, but if BASINS 4 is removed, >then BASINS 3.1 will need to be re-installed. > >Changes since first release of BASINS 4.0: > >Updated MapWindow Version 4.4 > >New version of the Climate Assessment Tool > >Automatic Watershed Delineator now works with ESRI grids and has several >other improvements > >Improved grid layer merging > >Updated documentation in docs\BASINS4.0.chm > >Expanded functionality of frequency grid analysis > >Changed importing USGS daily values into WDM to match change in NWIS web >site > >Added ability to directly open RDB files containing USGS daily values > >Fixed PLOAD handling of user-supplied loading tables > >Fix for Mass-Link subscripts on UCI creation > >Fix for transformation function in Ext Targets when outputting >hourly timeseries > >Increased HSPF workspace size, max special actions instructions, >and osv size for large runs > >Fix some HSPF binary output headers and possible divide by >zero errors in NITR and PHOS > >_______________and the New, Updated Met Data_________________ > >Release Notes for the New and Updated BASINS Met Data > >Downloading of the updated BASINS Meteorological database is now >available. >The updated database contains data at over 16,000 stations, though not >all >stations are still active and most of them contain only a subset of all >the meteorological constituents used in BASINS. For those stations that >are current, data have been updated through the year 2005. > >The updated data are downloaded by choosing "Download Met Data" from the >File menu. >This feature requires loading two plugins, both of which are available >under >D4EM Data Download in the Plugins menu. The two plugins are >"BASINS" and "Main". For new BASINS installations these plugins will >automatically be loaded, but for BASINS updates the plugins must be >loaded by hand. > >The updated met data are now downloaded based on the extent of the >geographic area >currently being viewed in the BASINS project. All stations within the >current >view are downloaded and merged into a single project WDM file. Each >station=E2=80=99s >datasets are organized using the same data set numbering scheme as the >existing >BASINS met database (i.e. 1, 11, 21,=85 PPREC; 3, 13, 23,=85 ATEM; and so >on). >The resulting WDM file is named met.wdm and is stored in the BASINS >project >directory (e.g. \BASINS\Data\Project Name\). > >Besides a dramatic increase in the number of available meteorological >stations, >there are two key differences between the original database and the >updated: > >1. The Pan Evaporation (EVAP) dataset has been removed > The original database contained both this computed Pan Evaporation >dataset > and a computed Potential Evapotranspiration (PEVT) dataset. > Besides frequently causing end-user confusion, it was strongly >suggested by > modeling experts that the PEVT dataset is more appropriate as an >input to the > HSPF model. > >2. Many stations do not contain the full suite of seven meteorological >constituents. > Whereas the original database contained all eight potentially-needed >constituents > at each station, the updated database has greatly expanded the number >of > available stations, many of which contain a subset of the seven >meteorological > constituents used in BASINS. > >BASINS components have been updated to reflect these two changes: > >The BASINS GIS interface has been updated to display a suite of distinct >icons >at each station to graphically represent which constituents are >available at each >station. With each station marked by the letter M, the seven available >constituents >are represented at the following positions in relation to the station >center: > >- Precipitation (PREC) =AD due South >- Wind speed (WINND) =AD due West >- Cloud Cover (CLOU) =AD North West >- P- Potential Evapotranspiration (PEVT) =AD due North >- Solarr Radiation (SOLR) =AD North East >- Air Temperature (ATEMM) =AD due East >- Dewpoint Temperature (DEWP) =AD South Eh East > >WinHSPF has been updated to only look for the PEVT dataset and to >effectively use >stations that do not contain all seven constituents. The WinHSPF >project creation >interface now includes a list of all stations with at least PREC and >PEVT datasets. >Stations in this list marked with a =E2=80=9C*=E2=80=9D are those that= contain the full >suite of >meteorological inputs. If a station is selected that does not have the >full suite, >the interface allows the user to specify where to get other needed >constituents. > >A more detailed description of how to use the updated database, possibly >in the >form of a BASINS Tech Note, will be provided when the database is >formally released. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------------------------- > > EPA/OW/OST/SHPD/RSTSSB/BASINS > > > > > > "Brannan, Kevin" > > To > "Private list for BASINS users" > 11/16/2007 12:51 > PM cc > > Subject > Please respond [basinsinfo] Help with Error > to > "Private list > for BASINS > users" > s.epa.gov> > > > > > > >Hello All, > >I am getting this output to the screen and HSPF terminates the run: > >IN WDRCGO: RIND,MAXREC,RREC=3D 0 640 540 >1180 > 0 0 1 > >There isn=E2=80=99t any guidance provided in the ECHO file. > >Thanks, >Kevin Brannan >Biological Systems Engineering >Virginia Tech >Ph: 540-231-2145 >Skype: brannan.kevin >Web: www.kbrannan.bse.vt.edu > > > >------------------------------------------ >You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > >To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to >lyris@lists.epa.gov >OR: >Use the listserver's web interface at >https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your >subscription. >OR >Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at >basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov >------------------------------------------ > >------------------------------------------ >You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > >To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to= lyris@lists.epa.gov >OR: >Use the listserver's web interface at=20 >https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your >subscription. >OR >Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at=20 >basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov >------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 2 X-lyris-Id: 163804 Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 15:45:11 -0800 (PST) From: Mansoor A Baloch Subject: Problems running HSPEXP --0-1593571783-1196811911=:91549 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello Everybody I am trying to use HSPEXP for the calibration of the hydrological model for the portneuf river in Idaho. I followed the instructions given in the Basins tutorial for downloading HSPEXP. Because I am using Windows XP I downloaded HSPEXP 2.4 to the C:\Basins\models\HSPEXP subfolder. I specified the Time series required by HSPEXP in the project WDM file for the Hydrologic Calibration of the specified reach. From the start menu- programs-usgs- HSPEXP I ran the software. I created the basin specification file *.exs for my project watershed, specifying project WDM as input. I named the *.exs file the same name as for my project UCI file and saved it. It was saved in the user subfolder of the C:\Basins\models\HSPEXP , now for the HSPEXP to run the UCI, WDM and EXS files should be in the sam efolder according to the tutorial. I copied the WDM and UCI files to the user folder and tried to open the project . The program did not open it. I copied the batch and exe files to the project folder and started the program there as is the case for the tutorial case study project. I created the exs file for my project and saved it. It was saved in the project folder. However when i tried to open the uci and exs files the program gives a message " The specified file is not a valid HSPF UCI file. see File error.fil for more information". This specified file "Error.fil" is an empty file. I tried to save the exs file with a different name but then it is saved with an empty uci file and again I am unable to open the project. I tried different combinations but I am unable to reopen the exs file that i create. Can somebody help? Thanks Mansoor A Baloch Visiting Scholar Geospatial Software Lab Idaho State University Idaho Falls ________________________________________________________________________________ ____ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --0-1593571783-1196811911=:91549 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hello Everybody
 
I am trying to use HSPEXP for the calibration of the hydrological model for the portneuf river in Idaho.
 
I followed the instructions given in the Basins tutorial for downloading HSPEXP. Because I am using Windows XP I downloaded HSPEXP 2.4 to the C:\Basins\models\HSPEXP subfolder.
I specified the Time series required by HSPEXP in the project WDM file for the Hydrologic Calibration of the specified reach.
From the start menu- programs-usgs- HSPEXP I ran the software.
I created the basin specification file *.exs for my project watershed, specifying project WDM as input.
I named the *.exs file the same name as for my project UCI file and saved it. It was saved in the user subfolder of the C:\Basins\models\HSPEXP , now for the HSPEXP to run the UCI, WDM and EXS files should be in the sam efolder according to the tutorial. I copied the WDM and UCI files to the user folder and tried to open the project . The program did not open it.
I copied the batch and exe files to the project folder and started the program there as is the case for the tutorial case study project. I created the exs file for my project and saved it. It was saved in the project folder. However when i tried to open the uci and exs files the program gives a message " The specified file is not a valid HSPF UCI file. see File error.fil for more information". This specified file "Error.fil" is an empty file.
I tried to save the exs file with a different name but then it is saved with an empty uci file and  again I am unable to open the project.
I tried different combinations but I am unable to reopen the exs file that i create. Can somebody help?
 
Thanks
 
Mansoor A Baloch
Visiting Scholar
Geospatial Software Lab
Idaho State University Idaho Falls

Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. --0-1593571783-1196811911=:91549-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 3 X-lyris-Id: 163848 Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:22:11 -0800 From: franczyk@pdx.edu Subject: Auto calibration to model Hello all! I have a question that I can not find the answer to in any of the SWAT literature. I am working with AVSWAT-X2005 and have successfully auto-calibrated my model and, although I realize that I can change the parameters of the original model by editing each HRU, is there an easier way to make these changes, especially for parameters such as sol_z or sol_AWC that both seem to have many, many changes. Also, I am having trouble finding the new values for both of these parameters in the calibration folder. If anyone knows of any literature that would point me in the right direction, that would help a lot as well. Thank you for any advice/help, Jon Franczyk. ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 4 X-lyris-Id: 163850 Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 11:09:06 +0100 (CET) From: manfredi vale Subject: Re: Auto calibration to model --0-11375404-1196935746=:15949 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Jon, for this kind of questions you should ask Ann van Griensven a.vangriensven@unesco-ihe.org which is the author of the SWAT autocalibration routines. You should also find some interesting suggestions about calibration in the Google Groups SWAT user: http://groups.google.it/group/swatuser?lnk=gschg Regards, manfredi franczyk@pdx.edu ha scritto: Hello all! I have a question that I can not find the answer to in any of the SWAT literature. I am working with AVSWAT-X2005 and have successfully auto-calibrated my model and, although I realize that I can change the parameters of the original model by editing each HRU, is there an easier way to make these changes, especially for parameters such as sol_z or sol_AWC that both seem to have many, many changes. Also, I am having trouble finding the new values for both of these parameters in the calibration folder. If anyone knows of any literature that would point me in the right direction, that would help a lot as well. Thank you for any advice/help, Jon Franczyk. ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ --------------------------------- --------------------------------- L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail --0-11375404-1196935746=:15949 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Dear Jon,
 
for this kind of questions you should ask Ann van Griensven
 
 
which is the author of the SWAT autocalibration routines. You should also find some interesting suggestions about calibration in the Google Groups SWAT user:
 
 
Regards,
 
manfredi
franczyk@pdx.edu ha scritto:
Hello all! I have a question that I can not find the answer to in any
of the SWAT literature. I am working with AVSWAT-X2005 and have
successfully auto-calibrated my model and, although I realize that I
can change the parameters of the original model by editing each HRU,
is there an easier way to make these changes, especially for
parameters such as sol_z or sol_AWC that both seem to have many, many
changes. Also, I am having trouble finding the new values for both of
these parameters in the calibration folder. If anyone knows of any
literature that would point me in the right direction, that would help
a lot as well. Thank you for any advice/help, Jon Franczyk.


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L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail --0-11375404-1196935746=:15949-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 5 X-lyris-Id: 163861 Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:15:53 -0600 From: "Kloiber, Steve" Subject: RE: Auto calibration to model Jon: If I understand your situation correctly, the answer is no, you cannot perf= orm global edits for selected HRU parameters in AVSWAT. You can do this wit= h the newer ArcSWAT interface, but not with the older AVSWAT. I know several people who have learned this the hard way. You try to make g= lobal edits on a few selected variables you end up making all of the data f= or each HRU exactly the same. If there's another work around solution, I haven't found it. Steve Kloiber, Ph.D., P.E. Environmental Analyst Metropolitan Council 390 North Robert Street St. Paul, MN 55101 Voice: (651) 602-1056 E-mail: steve.kloiber@metc.state.mn.us -----Original Message----- From: franczyk@pdx.edu [mailto:franczyk@pdx.edu] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:22 PM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] Auto calibration to model Hello all! I have a question that I can not find the answer to in any of the SWAT literature. I am working with AVSWAT-X2005 and have successfully auto-calibrated my model and, although I realize that I can change the parameters of the original model by editing each HRU, is there an easier way to make these changes, especially for parameters such as sol_z or sol_AWC that both seem to have many, many changes. Also, I am having trouble finding the new values for both of these parameters in the calibration folder. If anyone knows of any literature that would point me in the right direction, that would help a lot as well. Thank you for any advice/help, Jon Franczyk. ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.go= v OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.p= l to manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 6 X-lyris-Id: 163885 Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:22:51 -0800 From: franczyk@pdx.edu Subject: RE: Auto calibration to model Thanks for the help! JOn Quoting "Kloiber, Steve" : > Jon: > > If I understand your situation correctly, the answer is no, you =20 > cannot perform global edits for selected HRU parameters in AVSWAT. =20 > You can do this with the newer ArcSWAT interface, but not with the =20 > older AVSWAT. > > I know several people who have learned this the hard way. You try to =20 > make global edits on a few selected variables you end up making all =20 > of the data for each HRU exactly the same. > > If there's another work around solution, I haven't found it. > > Steve Kloiber, Ph.D., P.E. > Environmental Analyst > Metropolitan Council > 390 North Robert Street > St. Paul, MN 55101 > Voice: (651) 602-1056 > E-mail: steve.kloiber@metc.state.mn.us > > -----Original Message----- > From: franczyk@pdx.edu [mailto:franczyk@pdx.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:22 PM > To: Private list for BASINS users > Subject: [basinsinfo] Auto calibration to model > > Hello all! I have a question that I can not find the answer to in any > of the SWAT literature. I am working with AVSWAT-X2005 and have > successfully auto-calibrated my model and, although I realize that I > can change the parameters of the original model by editing each HRU, > is there an easier way to make these changes, especially for > parameters such as sol_z or sol_AWC that both seem to have many, many > changes. Also, I am having trouble finding the new values for both of > these parameters in the calibration folder. If anyone knows of any > literature that would point me in the right direction, that would help > a lot as well. Thank you for any advice/help, Jon Franczyk. > > > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.g= ov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at =20 > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > ------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.g= ov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at =20 > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > ------------------------------------------ > > ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 7 X-lyris-Id: 163886 Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:23:13 -0800 From: franczyk@pdx.edu Subject: Re: Auto calibration to model Thanks for the help! Jon Quoting manfredi vale : > Dear Jon, > > for this kind of questions you should ask Ann van Griensven > > a.vangriensven@unesco-ihe.org > > which is the author of the SWAT autocalibration routines. You =20 > should also find some interesting suggestions about calibration in =20 > the Google Groups SWAT user: > > http://groups.google.it/group/swatuser?lnk=3Dgschg > > Regards, > > manfredi > > franczyk@pdx.edu ha scritto: > Hello all! I have a question that I can not find the answer to in any > of the SWAT literature. I am working with AVSWAT-X2005 and have > successfully auto-calibrated my model and, although I realize that I > can change the parameters of the original model by editing each HRU, > is there an easier way to make these changes, especially for > parameters such as sol_z or sol_AWC that both seem to have many, many > changes. Also, I am having trouble finding the new values for both of > these parameters in the calibration folder. If anyone knows of any > literature that would point me in the right direction, that would help > a lot as well. Thank you for any advice/help, Jon Franczyk. > > > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.g= ov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at =20 > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > ------------------------------------------ > > > > --------------------------------- > > --------------------------------- > L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.g= ov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at =20 > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > ------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 8 X-lyris-Id: 163891 Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 09:55:41 -1000 From: Krispin Fernandes Subject: Generate input time series less than 1 hr interval Dear BASINS user, I having a very small watershed which has a time of concentration perhaps less than 10 minutes. So 1 hour input (rainfall) is too big so I need to use the time interval about 15 minutes or 5 minutes. So which scripts in WDMUTIL shall I use to generate the time series of input data less than 1 hour. Is there any document that describes how to make the script for the BASINS. Thanks a lot, Krispin ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 9 X-lyris-Id: 163936 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:11:58 -0500 From: "Tony R. Gallegos" Subject: Getting Started This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C83B47.648880A5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have inherited a project that requires some modeling, my predecessor worked with USGS on GWLF model several years ago, but no one on our staff new anything about what he worked on. We have competent GIS professional staff who are interested in working on watershed analysis but like me inexperienced in modeling.=20 =20 Any suggestions on training, getting up to speed on how to utilize modeling software (BASINS/GWLF, etc) with WQ and flow data we are collecting. I would rather concentrate on policy issues but am willing to learn whatever it takes.=20 =20 Perhaps someone has a graduate student who needs some work?=20 =20 Tony R Gallegos, Water Quality Administrator Western Piedmont Council of Governments PO Box 9026, Hickory, NC 28603 828-322-9191, Fax 828-322-5991 tony.gallegos@wpcog.org ; www.wpcog.org =20 =20 --------=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C83B47.648880A5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have inherited a project that = requires some modeling, my predecessor worked with USGS on GWLF model several = years ago, but no one on our staff new anything about what he worked on. We have = competent GIS professional staff who are interested in working on watershed = analysis but like me inexperienced in modeling.

 

=

Any suggestions on training, = getting up to speed on how to utilize modeling software (BASINS/GWLF, etc) with WQ and = flow data we are collecting. I would rather concentrate on policy issues but = am willing to learn whatever it takes.

 

=

Perhaps someone has a graduate = student who needs some work?

 

=

Tony R Gallegos, Water Quality = Administrator

Western = Piedmont = Council of Governments

PO Box = 9026, = Hickory, NC 28603

828-322-9191, Fax 828-322-5991

tony.gallegos@wpcog.org; www.wpcog.org=

 

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C83B47.648880A5-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 10 X-lyris-Id: 163938 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:47:38 -0500 From: "Wayne Harden" Subject: Re: Getting Started Tony, Have you contacted Kathy Stecker (919-733-5083 ext 505), at NCDENR? She = manages the water quality modeling unit. For a graduate student, you = could contact James Bowen at UNC Charlotte. He is a water quality modeler = and might be looking for a project for a graduate student. Wayne Wayne Harden Water Quality Analyst DWQ - BOW - SC DHEC 704-577-0278=20 >>> "Tony R. Gallegos" 12/10/07 11:11 AM >>> I have inherited a project that requires some modeling, my predecessor worked with USGS on GWLF model several years ago, but no one on our staff new anything about what he worked on. We have competent GIS professional staff who are interested in working on watershed analysis but like me inexperienced in modeling.=20 =20 Any suggestions on training, getting up to speed on how to utilize modeling software (BASINS/GWLF, etc) with WQ and flow data we are collecting. I would rather concentrate on policy issues but am willing to learn whatever it takes.=20 =20 Perhaps someone has a graduate student who needs some work?=20 =20 Tony R Gallegos, Water Quality Administrator Western Piedmont Council of Governments PO Box 9026, Hickory, NC 28603 828-322-9191, Fax 828-322-5991 tony.gallegos@wpcog.org ; www.wpcog.org =20 =20 --------=20 ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.go= v OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.p= l to manage your=20 subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 11 X-lyris-Id: 163940 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:52:36 -0500 From: "Tony R. Gallegos" Subject: RE: Getting Started Thanks Wayne Tony R Gallegos, Water Quality Administrator WPCOG 828-322-9191, Fax 828-322-5991 tony.gallegos@wpcog.org; www.wpcog.org =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Harden [mailto:hardencw@dhec.sc.gov]=20 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 11:48 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: Re: [basinsinfo] Getting Started Tony, Have you contacted Kathy Stecker (919-733-5083 ext 505), at NCDENR? She manages the water quality modeling unit. For a graduate student, you could contact James Bowen at UNC Charlotte. He is a water quality modeler and might be looking for a project for a graduate student. Wayne Wayne Harden Water Quality Analyst DWQ - BOW - SC DHEC 704-577-0278=20 >>> "Tony R. Gallegos" 12/10/07 11:11 AM >>> I have inherited a project that requires some modeling, my predecessor worked with USGS on GWLF model several years ago, but no one on our staff new anything about what he worked on. We have competent GIS professional staff who are interested in working on watershed analysis but like me inexperienced in modeling.=20 =20 Any suggestions on training, getting up to speed on how to utilize modeling software (BASINS/GWLF, etc) with WQ and flow data we are collecting. I would rather concentrate on policy issues but am willing to learn whatever it takes.=20 =20 Perhaps someone has a graduate student who needs some work?=20 =20 Tony R Gallegos, Water Quality Administrator Western Piedmont Council of Governments PO Box 9026, Hickory, NC 28603 828-322-9191, Fax 828-322-5991 tony.gallegos@wpcog.org ; www.wpcog.org =20 =20 --------=20 ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver.=20 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription. 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I have autocalibrated my model as well as I think I can, but I cant find the new values for some of the parameters I modified, such as sol_z and Sol_AWC. I have looked in the autocalibration folder that was created and it has the new files created by the autocalibration but it also has old files from the origional runs. I feel like I have run the model and autocalibration correctly, I just cant find the actual changes to some of the parameters so that I can edit the origional model and make the output match the observed. I feel like I have looked in every file/folder created. Thanks for any help, Jon ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 13 X-lyris-Id: 164293 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:22:21 -0800 (PST) From: Mansoor A Baloch Subject: PEST Execution --0-497266271-1198020141=:13881 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello I am trying to execute PEST for calibration of HSPF model for Portneuf river basin. I am using "swutils" with PEST where the input files for PEST are prepared by the TSPROC module except for the template file which I created manually. TSPROC created the control file for PEST. However there are some problems in executing the program: 1. When I give the command 'pestcheck case1' to check the pest control file case1.pst, i recieve the message ' pestcheck is not recognized as an internal or external command ' though I have added th ePEST folder into the path environment. 2. when I rum the pest without doing a pestcheck it runs and but does not completely go to execution by giving an error that says ' cannot open model output file model.out.' model.out is the nam eof the output file that i have assigne din the TSPROC input file. I am trying to execute it in the dos command prompt. Can you please help? Thanks Mansoor Baloch Visiting Scholar Geospatial Software Lab Idaho State University, Idaho Falls --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? 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Hello
 
I am trying to execute PEST for calibration of HSPF model for Portneuf river basin. I am using "swutils" with PEST where  the input files for PEST are prepared by the TSPROC module except for the template file which I created  manually. TSPROC created the control file for PEST. However there are some problems in executing the program:
 
1. When I give the command 'pestcheck case1' to check the pest control file case1.pst, i recieve the message ' pestcheck is not recognized as an internal or external command ' though I have added th ePEST folder into the path environment.
 
2. when I rum the pest without doing a pestcheck it runs and  but does not completely go to execution  by giving an error  that says  ' cannot open model output file model.out.' model.out is the nam eof the output file that i have assigne din the TSPROC input file.
 
I am trying to execute it in the dos command prompt. Can you please help?
 
Thanks
 
Mansoor Baloch
 
Visiting Scholar
Geospatial Software Lab
Idaho State University, Idaho Falls
 

Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. --0-497266271-1198020141=:13881-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 14 X-lyris-Id: 164294 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:34:10 -0800 From: "Russ Faust" Subject: Re: PEST Execution This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C8418B.6F7E58F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I do not know HSPF or PEST or TSPROC or swutils but have had similar = problems with other programs; especially from the DOS prompt. DOS does = NOT recognize long file names, that is file names longer than 8 = characters. You may need to find a way ro execute your command from = within the HSPF program, of you can. good luck Russ Faust ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mansoor A Baloch=20 To: Private list for BASINS users=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:22 PM Subject: [basinsinfo] PEST Execution Hello I am trying to execute PEST for calibration of HSPF model for Portneuf = river basin. I am using "swutils" with PEST where the input files for = PEST are prepared by the TSPROC module except for the template file = which I created manually. TSPROC created the control file for PEST. = However there are some problems in executing the program:=20 1. When I give the command 'pestcheck case1' to check the pest control = file case1.pst, i recieve the message ' pestcheck is not recognized as = an internal or external command ' though I have added th ePEST folder = into the path environment.=20 2. when I rum the pest without doing a pestcheck it runs and but does = not completely go to execution by giving an error that says ' cannot = open model output file model.out.' model.out is the nam eof the output = file that i have assigne din the TSPROC input file.=20 I am trying to execute it in the dos command prompt. Can you please = help? Thanks Mansoor Baloch Visiting Scholar Geospatial Software Lab Idaho State University, Idaho Falls=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! = Search. ------------------------------------------ You are currently = subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words = unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's = web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your = subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at = basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C8418B.6F7E58F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I do not know HSPF or PEST or TSPROC or = swutils but=20 have had similar problems with other programs; especially from the DOS=20 prompt.  DOS does NOT recognize long file names, that is file names = longer=20 than 8 characters.  You may need to find a way ro execute your = command from=20 within the HSPF program, of you can.
 
good luck
 
Russ Faust
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mansoor A=20 Baloch
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, = 2007 3:22=20 PM
Subject: [basinsinfo] PEST=20 Execution

Hello
 
I am trying to execute PEST for calibration of HSPF model=20 for Portneuf river basin. I am using "swutils" with PEST = where  the=20 input files for PEST are prepared by the TSPROC module except for the = template=20 file which I created  manually. TSPROC created the control file = for PEST.=20 However there are some problems in executing the program:
 
1. When I give the command 'pestcheck case1' to check the = pest=20 control file case1.pst, i recieve the message ' pestcheck is not=20 recognized as an internal or external command ' though I have added th = ePEST=20 folder into the path environment.
 
2. when I rum the pest without doing a pestcheck it runs and =  but=20 does not completely go to execution  by giving an error  = that=20 says  ' cannot open model output file model.out.' model.out is = the nam=20 eof the output file that i have assigne din the TSPROC input file. =
 
I am trying to execute it in the dos command prompt. Can you = please=20 help?
 
Thanks
 
Mansoor Baloch
 
Visiting Scholar
Geospatial Software Lab
Idaho State = University,=20 Idaho Falls
 

Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find=20 them fast with Yahoo! Search. = ------------------------------------------=20 You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To = unsubscribe,=20 send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use = the=20 listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl = to manage=20 your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at=20 basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov=20 ------------------------------------------ ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C8418B.6F7E58F0-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 15 X-lyris-Id: 164295 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:34:57 -0500 From: "Matt Tonkin" Subject: RE: PEST Execution This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C841BD.D65331E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi: I am not too familiar with Basins, but am familiar with PEST. First, note that pestchek is spelled without a "c" - it is an eight letter named executable (long story there!). If this does not solve the problem, and your path variable is for some reason not finding the PEST folders and utilities, try downloading the latest PEST from www.sspa.com/pest, unzipping, and getting the latest copy of pestchek, to place in your run directory. That should solve problem #1. For problem #2, it sounds like the model is not executing. Possibly, this is because of a convergence issue, but more likely there is a problem with the set up of the PEST files and/or model batch file that PEST executes, so the model is not running, and the output file that PEST is expecting is therefore not present. Check the run directory for the PST file, and the BATCH file that PEST is attempting to execute, and then step through the sequence of executables in that BATCH file, to see if each executes without difficulty. I expect you will find that one or more of them does not, for some reason. Regards - Matt Matt Tonkin S.S. Papadopulos & Assoc., Inc. 7944 Wisconsin Avenue Bethesda, MD, 20814 Tel: 301 718 8900 x258 Fax: 301 718 8909 Cell: 508 815 9886 email: matt@sspa.com _____ From: Mansoor A Baloch [mailto:maahbaloch@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 6:22 PM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: [basinsinfo] PEST Execution Hello I am trying to execute PEST for calibration of HSPF model for Portneuf river basin. I am using "swutils" with PEST where the input files for PEST are prepared by the TSPROC module except for the template file which I created manually. TSPROC created the control file for PEST. However there are some problems in executing the program: 1. When I give the command 'pestcheck case1' to check the pest control file case1.pst, i recieve the message ' pestcheck is not recognized as an internal or external command ' though I have added th ePEST folder into the path environment. 2. when I rum the pest without doing a pestcheck it runs and but does not completely go to execution by giving an error that says ' cannot open model output file model.out.' model.out is the nam eof the output file that i have assigne din the TSPROC input file. I am trying to execute it in the dos command prompt. Can you please help? Thanks Mansoor Baloch Visiting Scholar Geospatial Software Lab Idaho State University, Idaho Falls _____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C841BD.D65331E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi:

 

I am not too familiar with Basins, = but am familiar with PEST. First, note that = pestchek is spelled without a “c” – it is an eight letter named executable (long story there!).

 

If this does not solve the problem, = and your path variable is for some reason not finding the PEST folders and = utilities, try downloading the latest PEST from www.sspa.com/pest, unzipping, and getting the latest copy of pestchek, to place in your run directory. That should solve problem #1.

 

For problem #2, it sounds like the = model is not executing. Possibly, this is because of a convergence issue, but = more likely there is a problem with the set up of the PEST files and/or model = batch file that PEST executes, so the model is not running, and the output = file that PEST is expecting is therefore not present. = Check the run directory for the PST file, and the BATCH file that PEST is attempting to execute, and then step through the sequence of = executables in that BATCH file, to see if each executes without difficulty. I expect you = will find that one or more of them does = not, for some reason.

 

Regards - = Matt

 

 

=

Matt Tonkin

S.S. Papadopulos & Assoc., = Inc.

7944 Wisconsin = Avenue

Bethesda, MD, 20814

Tel:    301 718 8900 = x258

Fax:   301 718 = 8909

Cell:   508 815 = 9886

email: matt@sspa.com<= /p>

From: = Mansoor A Baloch [mailto:maahbaloch@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December = 18, 2007 6:22 PM
To: Private list for = BASINS users
Subject: [basinsinfo] = PEST Execution

 

Hello

 

I am trying to execute PEST = for calibration of HSPF model for Portneuf river basin. I am using "swutils" with PEST where  the input files for PEST are prepared by the TSPROC module except for the template file which I = created  manually. TSPROC created the control file for PEST. However there are some problems in executing the program: =

 

1. When I give the command 'pestcheck case1' to check the = pest control file case1.pst, i recieve the message ' pestcheck is not recognized as an internal or external command ' though I have added th = ePEST folder into the path environment.

 

2. when I rum the pest without doing a pestcheck it runs and =  but does not completely go to execution  by giving an error  that says  ' cannot open model output file model.out.' model.out is the = nam eof the output file that i have assigne din the TSPROC input file. =

 

I am trying to execute it in the dos command prompt. Can you = please help?

 

Thanks

 

Mansoor Baloch

 

Visiting Scholar
Geospatial Software Lab
Idaho State = University, Idaho Falls

 

 

Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. = ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To = unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to = manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov = ------------------------------------------

------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C841BD.D65331E0-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 16 X-lyris-Id: 164296 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:38:31 -0500 From: "Matt Tonkin" Subject: RE: PEST Execution This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C841BE.55B62050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a note on the response below - although this used to be a restriction, I don't think that the file name length, in this instance, is the source of your problem. I am not very familiar with BASINS though I have used it in the past, but I suspect the DOS environment that it launches to execute system commands is fairly recent. The newer versions of DOS will recognize file names longer than 8 characters (this restriction no longer applies) and recent versions of PEST are programmed to recognize names up to a couple hundred characters in length. Good luck - Matt Matt Tonkin S.S. Papadopulos & Assoc., Inc. 7944 Wisconsin Avenue Bethesda, MD, 20814 Tel: 301 718 8900 x258 Fax: 301 718 8909 Cell: 508 815 9886 email: matt@sspa.com _____ From: Russ Faust [mailto:rwf7437@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 6:34 PM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: Re: [basinsinfo] PEST Execution I do not know HSPF or PEST or TSPROC or swutils but have had similar problems with other programs; especially from the DOS prompt. DOS does NOT recognize long file names, that is file names longer than 8 characters. You may need to find a way ro execute your command from within the HSPF program, of you can. good luck Russ Faust ----- Original Message ----- From: Mansoor A Baloch To: Private list for BASINS users Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:22 PM Subject: [basinsinfo] PEST Execution Hello I am trying to execute PEST for calibration of HSPF model for Portneuf river basin. I am using "swutils" with PEST where the input files for PEST are prepared by the TSPROC module except for the template file which I created manually. TSPROC created the control file for PEST. However there are some problems in executing the program: 1. When I give the command 'pestcheck case1' to check the pest control file case1.pst, i recieve the message ' pestcheck is not recognized as an internal or external command ' though I have added th ePEST folder into the path environment. 2. when I rum the pest without doing a pestcheck it runs and but does not completely go to execution by giving an error that says ' cannot open model output file model.out.' model.out is the nam eof the output file that i have assigne din the TSPROC input file. I am trying to execute it in the dos command prompt. Can you please help? Thanks Mansoor Baloch Visiting Scholar Geospatial Software Lab Idaho State University, Idaho Falls _____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C841BE.55B62050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just a note on the response below = – although this used to be a restriction, I don’t think that the file name = length, in this instance, is the source of your problem. I am not very familiar = with BASINS though I have used it in the past, but I suspect the DOS = environment that it launches to execute system commands is fairly recent. The newer versions of DOS will = recognize file names longer than 8 characters (this restriction no longer applies) and = recent versions of PEST are programmed to = recognize names up to a couple hundred characters in length. =

 

Good luck - = Matt

 

=

Matt Tonkin

S.S. Papadopulos & Assoc., = Inc.

7944 Wisconsin = Avenue

Bethesda, MD, 20814

Tel:    301 718 8900 = x258

Fax:   301 718 = 8909

Cell:   508 815 = 9886

email: matt@sspa.com<= /p>

From: Russ = Faust [mailto:rwf7437@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December = 18, 2007 6:34 PM
To: Private list for = BASINS users
Subject: Re: [basinsinfo] = PEST Execution

 

I do not know HSPF or PEST or TSPROC or swutils but have had similar problems with other programs; especially from the DOS prompt.  DOS does NOT recognize long file = names, that is file names longer than 8 characters.  You may need to find = a way ro execute your command from within the HSPF program, of you = can.

 

good luck

 

Russ Faust

----- Original Message ----- =

Sent: = Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:22 PM

Subject: = [basinsinfo] PEST Execution

 

Hello

 

I am trying to execute PEST = for calibration of HSPF model for Portneuf river basin. I am using "swutils" with PEST where  the input files for PEST are prepared by the TSPROC module except for the template file which I = created  manually. TSPROC created the control file for PEST. However there are some problems in executing the program: =

 

1. When I give the command 'pestcheck case1' to check the = pest control file case1.pst, i recieve the message ' pestcheck is not recognized as an internal or external command ' though I have added th = ePEST folder into the path environment.

 

2. when I rum the pest without doing a pestcheck it runs and =  but does not completely go to execution  by giving an error  that says  ' cannot open model output file model.out.' model.out is the = nam eof the output file that i have assigne din the TSPROC input file. =

 

I am trying to execute it in the dos command prompt. Can you = please help?

 

Thanks

 

Mansoor Baloch

 

Visiting Scholar
Geospatial Software Lab
Idaho State = University, Idaho Falls

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C841BE.55B62050-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 17 X-lyris-Id: 164301 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:42 -0500 (EST) From: jferrari@al.umces.edu Subject: RE: PEST Execution Mansoor, 1) Use the command "pestchek" (no "c" before the k). 2) Model.out may not exist of HSPF did not run correctly, that is you may have everything set up correctly in your TSPROC files and the problem may be with HSPF execution. Try running your simulation directly from the DOS prompt using XHSPFX (the DOS executable HSPF used by PEST). You will need to have a ".sup" file to feed to it, hopefully you can make one manually if PEST did not create one. Once XHSPFX runs, take a look at your ".ech" files to see if there are any errors. For example, just this week I had a problem similar to yours- I did my calibrations for 10 years then tried a 50 year simulation. The supplementary file ".sup" contained the calibrated parameters from the 10 year PEST calibration. So to run a 50 year simulation I extended the date range in the UCI and ran XHSPFX, feeding it the UCI and the ".sup" file. Problem- I had not prepared my WDM files for record lengths of 50 years, they had all been set up for the 10 year calibration. So XHSPFX tanked on me, but by exploring the echo file I saw the error was due to problems with the WDM- and of course, no model.out file had been created. Once I tweaked the WDM it worked like a charm. Point is- sometimes there are minor problems with the UCI/HSPF that can cause TSPROC and PEST to tank, so check to make sure your UCI file is OK and works with a ".sup" file, any problems here will prevent creation of the model.out file(s). Hope this helps and Good luck! Joe Ferrari Faculty Research Assistant UMCES Appalachian Laboratory 301 Braddock Road Frostburg, MD 21532 > Just a note on the response below - although this used to be a > restriction, > I don't think that the file name length, in this instance, is the source > of > your problem. I am not very familiar with BASINS though I have used it in > the past, but I suspect the DOS environment that it launches to execute > system commands is fairly recent. The newer versions of DOS will recognize > file names longer than 8 characters (this restriction no longer applies) > and > recent versions of PEST are programmed to recognize names up to a couple > hundred characters in length. > > > > Good luck - Matt > > > > Matt Tonkin > > S.S. Papadopulos & Assoc., Inc. > > 7944 Wisconsin Avenue > > Bethesda, MD, 20814 > > Tel: 301 718 8900 x258 > > Fax: 301 718 8909 > > Cell: 508 815 9886 > > email: matt@sspa.com > > _____ > > From: Russ Faust [mailto:rwf7437@comcast.net] > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 6:34 PM > To: Private list for BASINS users > Subject: Re: [basinsinfo] PEST Execution > > > > I do not know HSPF or PEST or TSPROC or swutils but have had similar > problems with other programs; especially from the DOS prompt. DOS does > NOT > recognize long file names, that is file names longer than 8 characters. > You > may need to find a way ro execute your command from within the HSPF > program, > of you can. > > > > good luck > > > > Russ Faust > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mansoor A Baloch > > To: Private list for BASINS users > > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:22 PM > > Subject: [basinsinfo] PEST Execution > > > > Hello > > > > I am trying to execute PEST for calibration of HSPF model for Portneuf > river > basin. I am using "swutils" with PEST where the input files for PEST are > prepared by the TSPROC module except for the template file which I created > manually. TSPROC created the control file for PEST. However there are some > problems in executing the program: > > > > 1. When I give the command 'pestcheck case1' to check the pest control > file > case1.pst, i recieve the message ' pestcheck is not recognized as an > internal or external command ' though I have added th ePEST folder into > the > path environment. > > > > 2. when I rum the pest without doing a pestcheck it runs and but does not > completely go to execution by giving an error that says ' cannot open > model output file model.out.' model.out is the nam eof the output file > that > i have assigne din the TSPROC input file. > > > > I am trying to execute it in the dos command prompt. Can you please help? > > > > Thanks > > > > Mansoor Baloch > > > > Visiting Scholar > Geospatial Software Lab > Idaho State University, Idaho Falls > > > > > _____ > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find > tegory.php?category=shopping> them fast with Yahoo! Search. > ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to > the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe > basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface > at > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. 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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C84322.08561478 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Daniel, =20 I was wondering how the geocoder plugin is coming? I never saw a followup note on the BASINS list. =20 Best wishes, Lara ________________________________ From: dpames@gmail.com [mailto:dpames@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Ames Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:50 AM To: Private list for BASINS users Subject: Re: [basinsinfo] Does anyone have a geocoding solution? Lara and others... Interesting timing. We're posting a trial new MapWindow/BASINS geocoder plugin based on Google this afternoon. I'll send a follow up note to this mailing list when it's available for download. - Dan=20 On Nov 26, 2007 10:27 AM, Lara Juliusson wrote: Hi all - I am wondering if anyone has figured out a way to add geocoding to BASINS. I realize that MapWindow doesn't have this capability, but with all the free online geocoders, I thought that someone may have created a work-around using KML or shapefiles created on the fly. Anyone?=20 =09 Thanks, Lara ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. =09 To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. OR=20 Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ =09 --=20 Daniel P. Ames, PhD, PE Geospatial Software lab Department of Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesdani@isu.edu www.hydromap.com ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov ------------------------------------------ ------_=_NextPart_001_01C84322.08561478 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Daniel,
 
I was wondering how the geocoder plugin is = coming? I never=20 saw a followup note on the BASINS list.
 
Best wishes,
Lara

From: dpames@gmail.com = [mailto:dpames@gmail.com]=20 On Behalf Of Daniel Ames
Sent: Monday, November 26, = 2007 10:50=20 AM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: Re:=20 [basinsinfo] Does anyone have a geocoding solution?

Lara and others... Interesting timing.  We're posting a = trial=20 new MapWindow/BASINS geocoder plugin based on Google this = afternoon.  I'll=20 send a follow up note to this mailing list when it's available for = download. -=20 Dan

On Nov 26, 2007 10:27 AM, Lara Juliusson <ljuliuss@tchd.org> wrote:
Hi=20 all -
I am wondering if anyone has figured out a way to add = geocoding to=20 BASINS. I realize that MapWindow doesn't have this capability, but = with all=20 the free online geocoders, I thought that someone may have created a=20 work-around using KML or shapefiles created on the fly. Anyone?=20 =

Thanks,
Lara
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----------------= --------------------------=20 You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. To = unsubscribe, send=20 the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the = listserver's=20 web interface at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your=20 subscription. OR Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at=20 basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov=20 ------------------------------------------ ------_=_NextPart_001_01C84322.08561478-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 19 X-lyris-Id: 164390 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:42:33 -0700 From: "Daniel Ames" Subject: Re: Does anyone have a geocoding solution? ------=_Part_20995_711884.1198172553798 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Lara, There's a beta version of the Google Geocoder in the current MapWindow 4.5release candidate installer ( mapwindow.org/download.php), or you can download the plugin DLL directly here: https://svn.mapwindow.org/svnroot/InstallationProjects/4.5/MapWindow%20Applicati on%20INNO%20Setup/Source/GeoCoder/GeoCoder.dll Just paste this DLL in you BASINS/bin/Plugins folder. It's use is relatively self-explanatory, though if you have any questions please feel free to contact me. In fact since this is a test version, any suggestions on improvements would be appreciated. Dan amesdani@isu.edu On Dec 20, 2007 9:04 AM, Lara Juliusson wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > I was wondering how the geocoder plugin is coming? I never saw a followup > note on the BASINS list. > > Best wishes, > Lara > > ------------------------------ > *From:* dpames@gmail.com [mailto:dpames@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Daniel > Ames > *Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2007 10:50 AM > *To:* Private list for BASINS users > *Subject:* Re: [basinsinfo] Does anyone have a geocoding solution? > > Lara and others... Interesting timing. We're posting a trial new > MapWindow/BASINS geocoder plugin based on Google this afternoon. I'll send > a follow up note to this mailing list when it's available for download. - > Dan > > On Nov 26, 2007 10:27 AM, Lara Juliusson wrote: > > > Hi all - > > I am wondering if anyone has figured out a way to add geocoding to > > BASINS. I realize that MapWindow doesn't have this capability, but with all > > the free online geocoders, I thought that someone may have created a > > work-around using KML or shapefiles created on the fly. Anyone? > > > > Thanks, > > Lara > > ------------------------------------------ > > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to > > lyris@lists.epa.gov > > OR: > > Use the listserver's web interface at > > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > > subscription. > > OR > > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at > > basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > > > -- > Daniel P. Ames, PhD, PE > Geospatial Software lab > Department of Geosciences > Idaho State University - Idaho Falls > amesdani@isu.edu > www.hydromap.com > ------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to > the basinsinfo listserver. To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe > basinsinfo to lyris@lists.epa.gov OR: Use the listserver's web interface > at https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your subscription. OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to the basinsinfo listserver. > > To unsubscribe, send the words unsubscribe basinsinfo to > lyris@lists.epa.gov > OR: > Use the listserver's web interface at > https://lists.epa.gov/cgi-bin/lyris.pl to manage your > subscription. > OR > Contact the basinsinfo listserver owner at basinsinfo-Owner@lists.epa.gov > ------------------------------------------ > -- Daniel P. Ames, PhD, PE Geospatial Software lab Department of Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesdani@isu.edu www.hydromap.com ------=_Part_20995_711884.1198172553798 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Lara,

There's a beta version of the Google Geocoder in the current MapWindow 4.5 release candidate installer (mapwindow.org/download.php), or you can download the plugin DLL directly here:

https://svn.mapwindow.org/ svnroot/InstallationProjects/4.5/MapWindow%20Application%20INNO%20Setup/Source/G eoCoder/GeoCoder.dll

Just paste this DLL in you BASINS/bin/Plugins folder. It's use is relatively self-explanatory, though if you have any questions please feel free to contact me. In fact since this is a test version, any suggestions on improvements would be appreciated.

Dan

amesdani@isu.edu


On Dec 20, 2007 9:04 AM, Lara Juliusson <ljuliuss@tchd.org> wrote:
Hi Daniel,
 
I was wondering how the geocoder plugin is coming? I never saw a followup note on the BASINS list.
 
Best wishes,
Lara

From: dpames@gmail.com [mailto:dpames@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Ames
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:50 AM
To: Private list for BASINS users
Subject: Re: [basinsinfo] Does anyone have a geocoding solution?

Lara and others... Interesting timing.  We're posting a trial new MapWindow/BASINS geocoder plugin based on Google this afternoon.  I'll send a follow up note to this mailing list when it's available for download. - Dan

On Nov 26, 2007 10:27 AM, Lara Juliusson <ljuliuss@tchd.org> wrote:
Hi all -
I am wondering if anyone has figured out a way to add geocoding to BASINS. I realize that MapWindow doesn't have this capability, but with all the free online geocoders, I thought that someone may have created a work-around using KML or shapefiles created on the fly. Anyone?

Thanks,
Lara
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------=_Part_20995_711884.1198172553798-- ----------------------------------------------------------- X-Message-Number: 20 X-lyris-Id: 164585 Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:40:52 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Emma_R=E5dahl?= Subject: BASINS used in Europe? --_af519772-dbd0-4231-a6f5-7064787e0a8d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, =20 I am wondering if anyone (else) on this list perhaps may be an European BAS= INS user? I would love to get in contact with someone with experience from = using the BASINS system outside of the US. (Sorry if this breaks any laws concerning this listserv, but I've tried goo= gling without much luck, so this is my last shot...) =20 Sincerely, Emma, Sweden _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/= --_af519772-dbd0-4231-a6f5-7064787e0a8d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello,
 
I am wondering if anyone (else) on this list perhaps may be an Europea= n BASINS user? I would love to get in contact with someone with experience&= nbsp;from using the BASINS system outside of the US.
(Sorry if this breaks any laws concerning this listserv, but I've tried goo= gling without much luck, so this is my last shot...)
 
Sincerely,
Emma, Sweden

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