OK, so I'll have to go over the article more carefully.

Another thing I find disheartening and discouraging (also curious) is  the lack of outcry (in print) from the husbands of these women, it's their bottom line that is affected, too.  Let's see, how much of  a dollar discrepancy in pay would make a  partner sit up and take notice?  $5,000?  $10,000? How much of a dollar discrepancy would make women fighting mad?

Andrea
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From: "Burkett, Barry" <Barry.Burkett at Franklin.kyschools.us>

> Maybe this is jsut the man in me talking, but what I find discouraging and 

> disheartening is that some people are "less" professional than others; i.e. 

> Lawyers vs. Professional Teachers, Teachers vs. Bus Drivers... or in my case 

> "Certified" personnell vs. "Classified" personnell.

>  

> As the reporter was eluding to, some women do choose to make less, and some 

> women strive to make more, as do men.  Maybe another issue is that some people 

> are more firm at vocalizing what they want, along with being more insistant that 

> they get it.

>  

> As far as dialect is concerned instead of using the term "Standard" English I 

> know many practitioners use the term of "Business" English.  But similar to what 

> Andrea said in her previous posting, what is the goal of the teacher, to 

> reinforce miscues or correct.  If one is able to teach "Standard" and the 

> student owns it, the student will effectively know two languges, one of their 

> folk and one of business, it is empowering to know both.  Such as me being 

> college educated, I grew up in varied urban settings, and more recently began 

> farming, the backgorund allows me to work and connect people of many different 

> backgrounds at their level.  Or like many of Hip-Hop's nouveau riche, who 

> compare their business skills to hustlin to make ends meet; language, in its 

> varied forms, is a powerful tool.

>  

> Now, how does dialect and sex tie in with pay?  I think that would be 

> interesting to find out.

>  

> Does the Newsweek editorial, "My Black Skin Makes My White Coat Vanish," from 

> April 3, 2006 have anything to add to the discussion?  Peoples perceptions... 

> pre-conceived notions, etc.? 

> 

> Barry Burkett

> 

> 

> ________________________________

> 

> From: povertyracewomen-bounces at nifl.gov on behalf of Andrea Wilder

> Sent: Mon 12/25/2006 7:19 PM

> To: The Poverty, Race,Women and Literacy Discussion List

> Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 141] Re: gender differences in pay

> 

> 

> 

> This is discouraging and disheartening.

> 

> Andrea

> 

> 

> On Dec 24, 2006, at 1:50 PM, Daphne Greenberg wrote:

> 

> > I thought that some of you may be interested in the following article

> > found at:

> > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/24/business/24gap.html?th&emc=th

> > THE NEW GENDER DIVIDE

> > Gender Pay Gap, Once Narrowing, Is Stuck in Place

> > By DAVID LEONHARDT

> > A decade ago, it seemed that men and women with similar qualifications

> > might soon make nearly identical salaries.

> > Today, that is far harder to envision.

> > And a quote:

> > "Nothing happened to the pay gap from the mid-1950s to the late '70s.

> > Then the '80s stood out as a period of sharp increases in women's pay.

> > And it's much less impressive after that."

> > - FRANCINE D. BLAU, a Cornell economist, on gender differences in pay.

> >

> > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/24/business/24gap.html?th&emc=th

> >

> > Daphne Greenberg

> > Assistant Professor

> > Educational Psych. & Special Ed.

> > Georgia State University

> > P.O. Box 3979

> > Atlanta, Georgia 30302-3979

> > phone: 404-651-0127

> > fax:404-651-4901

> > dgreenberg at gsu.edu

> >

> > Daphne Greenberg

> > Associate Director

> > Center for the Study of Adult Literacy

> > Georgia State University

> > P.O. Box 3977

> > Atlanta, Georgia 30302-3977

> > phone: 404-651-0127

> > fax:404-651-4901

> > dgreenberg at gsu.edu

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