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           THAT SHE WAS EXPRESSING AS SHE SANG THOSE WORDS. AND AFTER HER
           SONG, SHE GOT AN OVATION FROM HER CLASSMATES AND FROM HER
           TEACHER. THIS FOCUSES US ON THE FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE IN
           APPROACH BETWEEN THE PALESTINIAN AND THE ISRAELIS. I HAVE A
           GRANDSON ABOUT THAT AGE, ABOUT THE AGE OF THAT LITTLE GIRL. HOW
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           WOULD I FEEL IF HE WERE BEING TAUGHT HATRED IN SCHOOL, IF HE
           WERE BEING TAUGHT HATRED ON TELEVISION?
           HOW WOULD I FEEL?
           HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOUR GOVERNMENT WAS TEACHING YOUR
           CHILDREN TO HATE?
           COULD YOU CONCLUDE THAT THEY ARE SERIOUS ABOUT LONG-TERM PEACE
           WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS?
           I ALSO HAVE SOME EXAMPLES FROM A PALESTINIAN TEXTBOOKS. FOR A
           THIRD GRADE GRAMMAR LESSON, HERE IS THE TASK. COMPLETE THE
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           FOLLOWING BLANK SPACES WITH THE APPROPRIATE WORD. AND THE
           ASSISTANCE IS, "THE ZIONIST ENEMY -- BLANK -- CIVILIANS WITH
           ITS AIRCRAFT." THE CORRECT ANSWER IS THE ZIONIST ENEMY ATTACKED
           CIVILIANS WITH ITS AIRCRAFT. FOR SEVENTH GRADERS ANSWER THE
           
           FOLLOWING QUESTION: WHY DID THE JEWS HATE MUSLIM UNITY AND WANT
           TO CAUSE DIVISION AMONG THEM?
           GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF THE EVIL ATTEMPTS OF THE JEWS FROM EVENTS
           HAPPENING TODAY. THESE ARE PALESTINIAN TEXTBOOKS TODAY. ONE
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           WOULD EXPECT RATHER THAN FOCUS ON HATRED, IF THEY WERE SERIOUS
           ABOUT PEACE, THEY WOULD FOCUS ON HOW THE TWO PEOPLES ARE
           WORKING TO LIVE SIDE BY SIDE. A HISTORY BOOK FOR 12TH GRADERS
           PUBLISHED ONLY LAST SUMMER TEACHES -- AGAIN I QUOTE -- "THE
           CLEAREST EXAMPLES OF RACIST BELIEF AND RACIAL DISCRIMINATION IN
           THE WORLD ARE NAZIISM AND ZIONISM. TO SEE THIS TAKING PLACE
           TODAY" -- IF YOU CAN THINK ABOUT IT IN THE CONTEXT OF BEING IN
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           ISRAEL AND BEING BRIEFED BY A MEMBER OF THE GOVERNMENT WITH
           RESPECT TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN WHAT THEY REFER TO AS THE
           ANTI-INCITEMENT COMMITTEE WHICH WAS SET UP BY THE WYE
           AGREEMENT. TO BE SITTING THERE AND SEEING THIS, I MUST SAY TO
           YOU WAS CHILLING. I FOUND IT TO BE EXTREMELY CHILLING. WHILE
           THE GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL MAKES GOOD-FAITH EFFORTS TO COME TO A
           PEACE AGREEMENT, THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY TEACHES CHILDREN
           HATRED.
           
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           THIS CAUSES ME TO ASK: HOW CAN PEACE BE OBTAINED WHEN THE
           CHILDREN ARE BEING TAUGHT HATRED?
           LET ME SHARE ANOTHER STORY. I ATTENDED SHABAT DINNER AT THE
           HOME OF SAUL AND WENDY SINGER IN JERUSALEM. SAUL WORKED ON MY
           STAFF FOR SEVEN YEARS BEFORE MOVING WITH HIS WIFE TO ISRAEL.
           THEY JUST HAD THEIR SECOND CHILD, A GIRL NAMED TAMARA. WENDY
           TOLD THE STORY OF THE DAY SHE WAS CHECKING OUT OF THE HOSPITAL
           IN JERUSALEM, TWO DAYS AFTER GIVING BIRTH. IN A VERY ORDINARY
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           AND MATTER-OF-FACT WAY, THE HOSPITAL GAVE HER THE NECESSITIES
           FOR BRINGING HOME A NEWBORN BABY. IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING
           DIAPERS AND OTHER THINGS WE WOULD EXPECT, SHE WAS HANDED A GAS
           MASK FOR HER BABY. IT'S ACTUALLY A TENT WHICH YOU PUT YOUR BABY
           UNDER IN CASE OF A CHEMICAL WEAPONS ATTACK. IN ISRAEL, THIS
           PREPARATION IS ROUTINE. EVERYONE IN ISRAEL KNOWS TO HAVE A GAS
           MASK READY. IT JUST BECOMES PART OF THE CRAZINESS OF EVERYDAY
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           LIFE. BUT WHEN YOU BRING HOME A NEWBORN BABY, WHEN YOU BRING
           HOME YOUR BABY AND YOU GET THE CHEMICAL WEAPONS TENT AT THE
           HOSPITAL, THEN YOU REALIZE HOW UNORDINARY LIFE IS IN ISRAEL
           TODAY. YOU REALIZE THAT YOU ARE REALLY SIMPLY STRUGGLING FOR A
           NORMAL LIFE, HOPING FOR PEACE AND SECURITY, PRAYING TO GOD
           WHILE ACTUALLY LIVING IN WAR ZONE. I HAD ANOTHER PROFOUND
           MEETING DURING THIS WEEK. I MET ONE EVENING PRIVATELY, SECRETLY
           WITH ARABS WHO WERE BEING PERSECUTED FOR THEIR CHRISTIAN FAITH.
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           I MET WITH ABOUT TEN PALESTINIAN CHRISTIANS. I WILL TELL YOU
           JUST ONE OF THEIR STORIES, BUT I'LL CHANGE SOME OF THE DETAILS
           TO PROTECT THE PERSON I'M DESCRIBING. I REMEMBER AN ENERGETIC
           MAN IN HIS EARLY 40'S AT THE END OF THE TABLE. I REMEMBER HIM
           BECAUSE YOU SEEMED SO FULL OF LIFE AND LOVE LOVE. HE HAD A
           GREAT SMILE ON HIS FACE AND DISPLAYED A WONDERFUL SENSE OF
           HUMOR. I SAY THIS WAS MEMORABLE BECAUSE, FRANKLY, AFTER HEARING
           WHAT HE HAD BEEN THROUGH, I DON'T KNOW IF I COULD EXPRESS THE
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           SENSE OF PEACE AND LOVE HE DID. THIS IS HIS STORY. HE HAD MANY
           CHILDREN AND VERY LITTLE MONEY. HE CONVERTED TO CHRISTIANITY IN
           1993. HE CLEARLY LOVED GOD, AND HE LOVED TO TELL PEOPLE ABOUT
           HIS CONVERSION. HE DESCRIBED TO ME HOW IN 1997 THE PALESTINIAN
           AUTHORITY ASKED HIM TO COME TO THE POLICE STATION FOR
           QUESTIONING. WHEN HE ARRIVED, HE W IMMEDIATELY ARRESTED AND
           DETAINED ON CHARGES OF SELLING LAND TO JEWS. HE DENIED THIS
           CHARGE SINCE HE WAS VERY POOR AND OWNED NO LAND. HE WAS BEATEN.
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           HE WAS HUNG FROM THE CEILING BY HIS HANDS FOR MANY HOURS. HE
           SHOWED ME WHAT I JUST SAID. HE SHOWED ME HOW HIS HANDS WERE
           TIED BEHIND HIS BACK AND THEN RAISED FROM THE FLOOR AND HUNG
           THAT WAY FOR MANY, MANY HOURS. AFTER TWO WEEKS HE WAS
           TRANSFERRED TO A LARGER PRISON WHERE HE WAS HELD FOR EIGHT
           MONTHS WITHOUT TRIAL. HE WAS RELEASED IN FEBRUARY 1998 AFTER
           HIS FAMILY BORROWED THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PAY OFF THE LOCAL
           AUTHORITIES. AND EVEN THOUGH HE IS FREE, THEY ARE KEEPING HIS
           FATHER IN PRISON. THEY BELIEVE IT IS FOR HIS SON'S BELIEFS. HE
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           FEELS HIS FATHER IS BEING HELD HOSTAGE TO PREVENT HIM FROM
           TALKING WITH PEOPLE ABOUT HIS FAITH. NEEDLESS TO SAY, THESE
           CHRISTIANS MET WITH ME AT CONSIDERABLE RISK. THEY CONVEYED TO
           ME A MESSAGE OF FEAR AND DESPERATION, BUT THEIR MERE PRESENCE
           IN THE ROOM WITH ME DEMONSTRATED THEIR HOPE.
           
           AND IT ALSO CAUSED ME TO ASK: HOW CAN THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL FIND
           PEACE WITH THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY WHILE THE PALESTINIAN
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           AUTHORITY ENGAGES IN COERCION AND TORTURE BASED UPON RELIGIOUS
           BELIEFS?
           I ALSO MET WITH THE PARENTS OF AMERICAN CHILDREN KILLED BY
           PALESTINIAN TREFTS. IN THIS MEETING I WAS STRUCK BY THE COURAGE
           DISPLAYED BY THESE FAMILIES AFTER SUFFERING THE TREMENDOUS LOSS
           OF A CHILD BRUTALLY MURDERED. THESE FAMILIES TOLD ME THE HOPES
           AND DREAMS THEY HAD FOR THEIR CHILDREN. I COULDN'T HELP
           THINKING ABOUT MY OWN. MY DAUGHTER, DEBBIE, TRAVELED WITH ME ON
           THIS TRIP. SHE WAS IN THE ROOM AS THESE STORIES OF BRUTALITY
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           AND MURDER WERE RELAYED. THERE WAS SCARCELY A DRY EYE INHE
           ROOM. I'M SURE THAT DEBBIE WAS THINKING ABOUT HER THREE LITTLE
           BOYS AGED 14, 11 AND 5. WE WERE MOVED BY THE COMMENTS MADE BY
           THE PARENTS AS THEY DESCRIBED TO US WHAT HAD HAPPENED. I
           UNDERSTAND THAT THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY KNOWS A GREAT DEAL
           ABOUT THESE MURDERERS, BUT THEY ARE NOT BEING PUNISHED. SOME OF
           THEM HAVE GONE TO TRIAL AND WERE SENTENCED, BUT WE DON'T KNOW
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           IF THEY REMAIN IN PRISON. I WAS TOLD THAT WE KNOW SOME HAVE
           BEEN RELEASED. THERE ARE REPORTS THAT THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY
           ALLOWS THEM TO LEAVE PRISON EACH DAY AND RETURN IN THE EVENING,
           LIKE FREE ROOM AND BOARD MORE THAN LIKE PRISON. I WAS ALSO
           PRESENTED WITH STORIES OF THE LIONIZATION OF THESE MURDERERS IN
           THE PRESS AND AGAIN IN THE CLASSROOMS. TRY TO IMAGINE HOW YOU
           WOULD FEEL, TRY TO IMAGINE WHAT WOULD BE GOING THROUGH YOUR
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           MIND WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE GRIEF OF THE LOSS OF YOUR
           CHILD. YOU KNOW WHO IS RESPONSIBLE. YOU KNOW THEY KNOW WHO IS
           RESPONSIBLE. YOU SAW THEM GO ON TRIAL. YOU SAW THEM THEN
           RELEASED.
           
           YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF: WHAT ARE WE GOING THROUGH THIS PEACE
           PROCESS FOR?
           I'D LIKE TO MENTION ONE STORY OF MANY THAT I HEARD. MRS.
           DOSBERG SAT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE TABLE FROM ME. WHEN SHE TOLD US
           OF THE LOSS OF HER DAUGHTER AND SON-IN-LAW, THE LESSON OF THESE
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           MURDERS BAIM SO CLEAR. WE MUST FIGHT TERROR, AND WE CANNOT BACK
           OFF. MRS. DOSBERG'S FAMILY -- HER DAUGHTER, AMERICAN SON-IN-LAW
           AND THEIR NINE MONTH-OLD DAUGHTER -- ATTENDED A WEDDING IN
           CENTRAL ISRAEL ON JUNE 9, 1996. THEY DECIDED NOT TO BRING THEIR
           TWO-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER ALONG, THANK GOD. ON THE WAY HOME FROM
           THE WEDDING THEY WERE STOPPED BY PALESTINIAN TERRORISTS AND
           KILLED IN A SO-CALLED DRIVE-BY SHOOTING. 50 BULLETS WERE FOUND
           TO HAVE BEEN USEED IN THIS MURDER. YET, BY SOME MIRACLE, THE
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           BABY SURVIVED. EVEN WITH A CRIME THIS GROSS, THE PALESTINIAN
           AUTHORITY DID NOT ARREST EVERYONE INVOLVED OR SUSPECTED IN THIS
           SHOOTING. ONE OF THOSE WHO REMAINED FREE, IT IS BELIEVED, LATER
           TOOK PART IN THE BOMBING OF THE APROPOS CAFE, KILLING MANY
           OTHERS. ANOTHER SUSPECTED KILLER, ACCORDING TO ISREALI JUSTICE
           MINISTER, IS UNDER ARREST BUT GIVEN PERMISSION TO COME AND GO
           AS HE PLEASES FROM PRISON. MOHAMMED DIFE, ANOTHER SUSPECTED
           PALESTINIAN TERRORIST, TOOK PART IN THE MURDER OF TWO OTHER
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           AMERICANS TWO DIFFERENT TIMES, ACCORDING TO MOTHERS WITH WHOM I
           SPOKE. MRS. SHARON WINESTOCK LOST HER 19-YEAR-OLD SON IN A
           DRIVE-BY SHOOTING MASTERMIND BY DEEM AND ONLY A YEAR LATER MRS.
           WAXMAN TOLD ME OF THE KIDNAP-MURDER OF THEIR SON ALSO BELIEVED
           TO HAVE BEEN PLANNED BY MR. DEEF. I AM TOLD MOHAMMED DEEF
           REMAINS A FREE MAN TODAY. THE OBVIOUS LESSON -- TERRORISTS
           KILL. AND THOSE THAT ARE NOT JAILED REMAIN FREE TO KILL AND TO
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           KILL AGAIN, THANKS TO THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY. HOW WOULD I
           FEEL IN THEIR PLACE?
           HOW COULD I KEEP THE THOUGHT FROM MY MIND AS I LISTENED IF I
           HAD LOST A CHILD AND KNEW THAT THE MURDER ACCOMPLICE WRS ON THE LOOSE?
           HOW WOULD I FEEL AND IF I KNEW THE KILLER REMAINED FREE TO KILL
           OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN, HOW WOULD I FEEL?
           IT'S SO HARD, HARD TO EVEN CONSIDER. BUT I DO KNOW THAT I LEFT
           THERE COMMITED TO DOING WHATEVER I COULD DO TO HELP AND TO HELP
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           EACH OF THOSE FAMILIES. ONCE AGAIN, I BEGAN TO BETTER
           UNDERSTAND THE WAY THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY LEADERSHIP WAS
           APPROACHING PEACE. HOW CAN ONE FIND PEACE WITH PEOPLE WHO DO
           NOT CONDEMN TERRORISM?
           MR. PRESIDENT, HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO ENGAGE IN PEACE
           NEGOTIATIONS WITH PEOPLE WHO WANT TO TEACH THEIR CHILDREN TO
           DIPE IN A HOLY WAR AGAINST YOU?
           HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO ENGAGE IN PEACE NEGOTIATIONS WITH PEOPLE
           WHO PERSECUTE THOSE OF OTHER FAITHS?
           HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO ENGAGE IN PEACE NEGOTIATIONS WITH PEOPLE
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           WHO KEEP TERRORISTS ON THE LOOSE, TO WREAK HAVOC AND EVIL
           AGAINST YOU AND PRAISE THEM FOR HEROISM?
           TODAY THE ISREALI PEOPLE ARE EXHAUSTED BY 50 YEARS OF VIOLENCE
           AGAINST THEIR HOMES AND FAMILIES, OF SENDING THEIR SONS AND
           DAUGHTERS INTO THE ARMY. AND THEY DREAM OF A PROMISE OF PEACE
           NOW. THIS IS OUR HOPE AND OUR DREAM AS WELL. BUT WE MUST NOT
           GET CONFUSED. HISTORY IS REPLETE WITH EXAMPLES OF COMPROMISES
           WHICH BRING TERROR AND DESTROY DREAMS. AND IN THE UNITED
           STATES, MANY PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK THAT IF WE DO NOT CONFRONT
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           THESE OBSTACLES TO PEACE AND IF WE LOOK THE OTHER WAY, THEN WE
           WILL BE ABLE TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT. THE REALITY, HOWEVER, IS
           JUST THE OPPOSITE. IF WE DON'T ACCOMPLISH OR ACKNOWLEDGE THE
           ATTITUDES AND ACTS OF THOSE AT THE PEACE TABLE, THEN THE PEACE
           PROCESS IS ALREADY OVER, AND WE JUST WON'T ADMIT IT. IN OTHER
           WORDS, THE SUREST WAY TO KILL THE PEACE PROCESS IS TO AVOID
           CONFRONTATION, TO FEAR UPSETH A BELLIGERENT FORCE AND TO AVOID
           ADDRESSING INCITEMENT, VIOLENCE, PERSECUTION AND TERRORISM. THE
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           ONLY WAY TO KEEP THE PEACE PROCESS ALIVE IS TO FOCUS ON TRUTH,
           FREEDOM, SECURITY AND JUSTICE. ISRAELI EFFORTS TO DATE HAVE
           SOUGHT TO KEEP THE PEACE PROCESS ALIVE, IMPROVED SECURITY
           DURING THE NEGOTIATIONS PROCESS AND OBTAIN RECIPROCITY IS A
           VITAL ELEMENT OF IMPLEMENTATION. THE PROCESS REMAINS ALIVE, BUT
           TERRORISM CONTINUES AND IS EXULTED BY MANY IN THE PALESTINIAN
           AUTHORITY, AND RECIPROCITY DOES NOT EXIST. UNFORTUNATELY, THE
           UNITED STATES ROLE HAS BEEN TO SEEK THE MIDDLE GROUND.
           UNFORTUNATELY, THIS ONLY REWARDS THOSE WILLING TO GO TO NEW
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           EXTREMES. THE MIDDLE GROUND BETWEEN PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU
           AND CHAIRMAN AFTER FAT IS NOT HALFWAY BETWEEN THE TWO. THE
           UNITED STATES MUST NOT ENGAGE IN MORAL EQUIVOCATION. WE MUST
           NOT SHY AWAY FROM HOLDING ARAFAT RESPONSIBLE FOR ACTS OF
           VIOLENCE, INCITEMENT AND PERSECUTION. THE UNITED STATES MUST
           DEMONSTRATE PRINCIPLED LEADERSHIP AND END THE APPEASEMENT THAT
           PERPETUATES THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE. THE PEACE PROCESS CAN ONLY
           WORK WHEN LEADERS UPHOLD THEIR AGREEMENTS AND ANSWER TO THE
           PEOPLE. AND THE UNITED STATES REMAINS A VIGILANT DEFENDER OF
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           THE PRINCIPLES WHICH BIND US TO ISRAEL -- FREEDOM, DEMOCRACY
           AND THE RULE OF LAW. BUT WHAT SHOULD WE DO?
           I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE THREE THINGS. FIRST, WE SHOULD INSIST
           UPON THE STRICT ADHERENCE TO OSLO AND THE RECIPROCITY CODIFIED
           AT YW -- WYE. THE PURPOSE OF THE WYE ACCORD WAS AT LONG LAST TO
           FORCE THE PALESTINIANS TO COMPLY WITH COMMITMENTS BEFORE
           FURTHER TERRITORY WOULD BE OVER. AT WYE ISRAEL AGREED ONLY TO
           TURN OVER TERRITORY IN PHASES IN WHICH IT COULD VERIFY
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           PALESTINIAN COMPLIANCE AT EVERY STEP. IN THE FIRST PHASE ISRAEL
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