Dr. Susan Yanovski, co-Director of the Office of Obesity Research at the NIDDK Schmalfeldt: Welcome back to NIH Research Radio. Our guest in the studio, Dr. Susan Yanovski, co-Director of the Office of Obesity Research at the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases. Dr. Yanovski, welcome to NIH Research Radio. Yanovski: Thanks. Nice to be here. Schmalfeldt: The season is upon us. It's that time of year. Thanksgiving is right around the corner. Christmas is close on its heels. And with the holidays comes the feasting. There's that standard American attitude we have, we're going to gain five pounds over the holidays, we'll work it off after the holidays. And you're here to tell us that's not necessarily the way it really goes, is it? Yanovski: That's right. We had all heard the stories, the average American gains five pounds, seven pounds, ten pounds over the holidays, but we really couldn't find any research to back it up. So about five years ago, my husband and I decided we were actually going to see if this was true. We did a study and we recruited about 200 folks, most of them within the NIH community, and had them come in and get weighed. Four times over the course of the holiday season - they came in in the fall, then again before Thanksgiving, after the new year, again in the spring, and we even brought some of them back the following year to look at one year weight gain. We fooled them a little bit in that we didn't tell them that we were studying weight gain. We told them we were just studying how changes in vital signs occur over the year. Schmalfeldt:That was very clever. (Laughter) Yanovski: And what we found was the average person does not gain five pounds over the holidays. In fact, in the period between Thanksgiving and New Year's, they gain a little bit less than a pound. Schmalfeldt: Now, at first you would think, "that's wonderful, it's only a pound." But it really is not good news, is it? Yanovski: No, we always say this is a "good news, bad news" story. The good news is the average person only gains about a pound. The bad news is they don't take that pound off again. In fact, over the course of a year, they gain even a little bit more. And so it's the kind of thing that you might not really notice a weight gain of a pound or so, but over time that's going to add up and probably contributes to the 20 or 30 pounds people gain over adulthood. Schmalfeldt: So it's not a case of New Year's resolutions are going to fix everything or that glut of TV commercials you see from the day after Christmas for weight loss clinics and that sort of thing. How do we avoid this trap? Yanovski: Well, it's very interesting. One of the things we looked at over the course of our study was who gained more weight, and also how did people really prevent that weight gain. And we found a couple of things. One is that people who were already overweight or obese to start with, they were more likely to gain that five pounds or more over the holidays, so we need to recognize that if you're already overweight, you're at risk and you need to be a little bit more careful than the average person. The other thing we found that was very interesting is that it wasn't how many parties you went to, how many calories you said you were taking in, but we found that people who said they were more active than usual over the holiday season, not only didn't they gain weight, they ended up losing a little bit of weight. So it sounds like if you make an effort to increase your physical activity over the holidays, that might be one way to prevent that excess weight gain. Schmalfeldt: Well, Dr. Yanovski, I can hear my listeners now saying, "That's all well and good. But it's Thanksgiving. It's Christmas. What do we do? I mean, it sounds like Dr. Yanovski wants us to eat carrot sticks instead of a turkey dinner." Yanovski: It's OK to have the carrot cake or the turkey dinner. Everything is moderation. I'm not saying anything people don't already know in their heart of hearts. It's fine to have a slice of carrot cake. It's not fine to have the whole carrot cake. Schmalfeldt: You can have a sip of egg nog, not the whole carton. Yanovski: Yeah. You know, at any holiday dinner there are going to be things that are very ordinary and things that are very special. And I think one of the keys is, don't eat the 500 calories worth of cheese cubes when you can get those any time. But if there's a very special pumpkin pie or stuffing or something you really enjoy, have that. Work it into your diet. Schmalfeldt: Do you have some diet suggestions, other than what you just mentioned there? Different ways of preparing foods that folks can keep in mind? Is there a place on the Internet they can go to get more information about that sort of thing? Yanovski: Just go to Google and you can get recipes that are going to be lower in fat or lower in calories. But again, I think it's a matter of knowing what's special and what's not. You're going to be going to parties many, many times. So one thing people can do is bring a dish they know is healthful, like a fruit salad, to the party so they know they're going to have something to eat. After Thanksgiving, instead of them sitting around watching the football game and eating a bowl of mixed nuts, maybe everyone can go take a family walk after Thanksgiving dinner. You'll probably feel a lot better, too. Schmalfeldt: But what about the guy, like me, for instance, who would say, "OK, I'm going to pretend it's Lent between now and Thanksgiving day, and then I'm going to stuff myself." Yanovski: Even one big, blowout, Thanksgiving meal isn't what's going to make a terrible difference in your life. Enjoy your Thanksgiving dinner. But remember, you don't have to eat like it's Thanksgiving every day between Thanksgiving and the new year. Schmalfeldt: I understand there's the "Weight Control Information Network". Can you talk about that a little bit? Yanovski: Sure. NIDDK offers the Weight Control Information Network. We have lots of fact-based information about obesity and weight control. You can go to the website. Schmalfeldt: That would be www.win.niddk.nih.gov. But I think if you Google "Weight Control Information Network" you'll find it faster than that, even. Lots of great ideas and tips on there for us? Yanovski: Tips on physical activity, tips on eating more healthfully. One other tip I think I ought to mention to people. We may not like to think about it, but we've actually funded studies at NIH that show that people who weigh themselves frequently tend to gain less weight. And over a high risk time like the holiday period might be a good time to check in with the scale every couple of days. Schmalfeldt: So what you're saying, Dr. Yanovski, is it's not the time to be Spartan, per se, as far as the things you enjoy over the holidays, it's a time to be sensible. Yanovski: Yes. Sensible and a little bit selective. You'll enjoy your foods more and your time with family more if you're not feeling overstuffed. Schmalfeldt: Great advice and once again that website for the Weight Control Information Network is www.win.niddk.nih.gov. Dr. Susan Yanovski, co-Director of the Office of Obesity Research at the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases, thank you so much for being with us today on NIH Research Radio. Yanovski: My pleasure. (TRANSITIONAL MUSIC) Schmalfeldt:When we come back, Wally Akinso has a story about some new Spanish language materials on the web for folks seeking the latest in health news. That's next on NIH Research Radio.