"Bias against poor people?"

I still don't know what this phrase means:  "misunderstandings these 
can cause in the teaching / learning process,"  --not a clue.  who is 
misunderstood, over what?  What are people trying to say, here?  There 
is a bias against poor people?  poor women?   poor minorities?

Andrea

On Apr 22, 2008, at 6:12 AM, Katherine wrote:


> "the prejudicial norms imposed upon persons living with the effects of

> poverty, the intersection of these effects with gender and race and the

> misunderstandings these can cause in the teaching/learning process;"

>

> Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt

> www.luxuriouschoices.net

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Daphne Greenberg" <alcdgg at langate.gsu.edu>

> To: <povertyracewomen at nifl.gov>

> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:08 PM

> Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 2056] Re: hidden rules? (please don't 

> delete)

>

>

>> How do you suggest that the phase should be changed:

>> "the hidden rules of persons living with the effects of poverty, the

>> intersection of these effects with gender and race and the

>> misunderstandings these can cause in the teaching/learning process;"

>>

>>>>> "Katherine" <kgotthardt at comcast.net> 04/21/08 10:00 PM >>>

>> I would vote for "prejudicial norms."

>>

>> Prejudicial:  causing prejudice or disadvantage; detrimental.

>>

>> Norms:  A standard, model, or pattern regarded as typical.

>>

>>

>> Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt

>> www.luxuriouschoices.net

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: "Daphne Greenberg" <alcdgg at langate.gsu.edu>

>> To: <povertyracewomen at nifl.gov>

>> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:37 PM

>> Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 2053] Re: hidden rules? (please don't 

>> delete)

>>

>>

>>> In response to this posting, I have been asked by a subscriber to 

>>> post

>>> the

>>> following:

>>> are they rules or is there a better word/phrase?

>>> pressures

>>> constraints

>>> barriers

>>> biases

>>> forces

>>> power differentials

>>> inequities in power

>>> unfair conditions

>>>

>>>>>> Janet Isserlis <Janet_Isserlis at brown.edu> 04/21/08 12:23 PM >>>

>>> are they hidden rules, or unspoken?

>>>

>>> likely, at some times to be both.

>>>

>>> Janet

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> From: Holly Dilatush <holly at dilatush.com>

>>> Reply-To: "The Poverty, Race, Women and Literacy Discussion List"

>>> <povertyracewomen at nifl.gov>

>>> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:01:04 -0400

>>> To: "The Poverty, Race, Women and Literacy Discussion List"

>>> <povertyracewomen at nifl.gov>

>>> Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 2043] Re: hidden rules? (please don't 

>>> delete)

>>>

>>> I would advocate not to delete this line -- it targets "what I was

>>> looking

>>> for" --

>>> Reflecting back on the variety of responses to trying to consensus a 

>>> name

>>> for this list, there were many comments that touched upon the 

>>> differing

>>> interpretations and assumptions, often unacknowledged, that exist in

>>> hierarchies and within groups striving to abolish hierarchies and 

>>> their

>>> resultant powerplays.

>>>

>>> [aside:  the recent media frenzies with the presidential candidates

>>> showcase

>>> the potential polarizations well; one litte word, one attendance at 

>>> an

>>> event

>>> someone else deems inappropriate/misrepresentative, etc.]

>>>

>>> At the moment, I do not have a better suggestion to replace 'hidden

>>> rules'

>>> -- perhaps someone else will?  However, I do believe both parts of 

>>> the

>>> sentence (as I interpret them) are crucial to the attempted 

>>> definition of

>>> our group.

>>>

>>> Thanks for 'listening,'

>>> Holly

>>> Charlottesville VA

>>> Adult ESL Instructor, Storyteller, Online Facilitator

>>> On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Daphne Greenberg

>>> <alcdgg at langate.gsu.edu>

>>> wrote:

>>>> Thanks to all of you who have been providing feedback on and off 

>>>> list

>>>> about

>>>> the description draft. Please continue to share your thoughts about 

>>>> the

>>>> description (as a reminder, see below) on or off list (off list, 

>>>> you can

>>>> email

>>>> me at: dgreenberg at gsu.edu). In this post, I would like to address an

>>>> issue

>>>> that two people have addressed with me off list. They both asked 

>>>> about

>>>> the

>>>> following segment:

>>>>

>>>> "the hidden rules of persons living with the effects of poverty, the

>>>> intersection of these effects with gender and race and the

>>>> misunderstandings

>>>> these can cause in the teaching/learning process;"

>>>

>>> The 2 who emailed me wanted to know what is meant by "hidden rules"

>>> --

>>>

>>>

>>> "As soon as we begin to generalize, we fail to have meaningful 

>>> dialogue."

>>> (Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt, 2008)

>>>

>>> "Live with intention. Share inside~out smiles, inspire hope, seek 

>>> awe and

>>> nurture in nature."

>>>

>>>

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