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[PovertyRaceWomen 2058] Re: hidden rules? (pleasedon'tdelete)

Katherine kgotthardt at comcast.net
Tue Apr 22 06:12:41 EDT 2008


"the prejudicial norms imposed upon persons living with the effects of
poverty, the intersection of these effects with gender and race and the
misunderstandings these can cause in the teaching/learning process;"

Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt
www.luxuriouschoices.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daphne Greenberg" <alcdgg at langate.gsu.edu>
To: <povertyracewomen at nifl.gov>
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:08 PM
Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 2056] Re: hidden rules? (please don't delete)



> How do you suggest that the phase should be changed:

> "the hidden rules of persons living with the effects of poverty, the

> intersection of these effects with gender and race and the

> misunderstandings these can cause in the teaching/learning process;"

>

>>>> "Katherine" <kgotthardt at comcast.net> 04/21/08 10:00 PM >>>

> I would vote for "prejudicial norms."

>

> Prejudicial: causing prejudice or disadvantage; detrimental.

>

> Norms: A standard, model, or pattern regarded as typical.

>

>

> Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt

> www.luxuriouschoices.net

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Daphne Greenberg" <alcdgg at langate.gsu.edu>

> To: <povertyracewomen at nifl.gov>

> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:37 PM

> Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 2053] Re: hidden rules? (please don't delete)

>

>

>> In response to this posting, I have been asked by a subscriber to post

>> the

>> following:

>> are they rules or is there a better word/phrase?

>> pressures

>> constraints

>> barriers

>> biases

>> forces

>> power differentials

>> inequities in power

>> unfair conditions

>>

>>>>> Janet Isserlis <Janet_Isserlis at brown.edu> 04/21/08 12:23 PM >>>

>> are they hidden rules, or unspoken?

>>

>> likely, at some times to be both.

>>

>> Janet

>>

>>

>>

>> From: Holly Dilatush <holly at dilatush.com>

>> Reply-To: "The Poverty, Race, Women and Literacy Discussion List"

>> <povertyracewomen at nifl.gov>

>> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:01:04 -0400

>> To: "The Poverty, Race, Women and Literacy Discussion List"

>> <povertyracewomen at nifl.gov>

>> Subject: [PovertyRaceWomen 2043] Re: hidden rules? (please don't delete)

>>

>> I would advocate not to delete this line -- it targets "what I was

>> looking

>> for" --

>> Reflecting back on the variety of responses to trying to consensus a name

>> for this list, there were many comments that touched upon the differing

>> interpretations and assumptions, often unacknowledged, that exist in

>> hierarchies and within groups striving to abolish hierarchies and their

>> resultant powerplays.

>>

>> [aside: the recent media frenzies with the presidential candidates

>> showcase

>> the potential polarizations well; one litte word, one attendance at an

>> event

>> someone else deems inappropriate/misrepresentative, etc.]

>>

>> At the moment, I do not have a better suggestion to replace 'hidden

>> rules'

>> -- perhaps someone else will? However, I do believe both parts of the

>> sentence (as I interpret them) are crucial to the attempted definition of

>> our group.

>>

>> Thanks for 'listening,'

>> Holly

>> Charlottesville VA

>> Adult ESL Instructor, Storyteller, Online Facilitator

>> On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Daphne Greenberg

>> <alcdgg at langate.gsu.edu>

>> wrote:

>>> Thanks to all of you who have been providing feedback on and off list

>>> about

>>> the description draft. Please continue to share your thoughts about the

>>> description (as a reminder, see below) on or off list (off list, you can

>>> email

>>> me at: dgreenberg at gsu.edu). In this post, I would like to address an

>>> issue

>>> that two people have addressed with me off list. They both asked about

>>> the

>>> following segment:

>>>

>>> "the hidden rules of persons living with the effects of poverty, the

>>> intersection of these effects with gender and race and the

>>> misunderstandings

>>> these can cause in the teaching/learning process;"

>>

>> The 2 who emailed me wanted to know what is meant by "hidden rules"

>> --

>>

>>

>> "As soon as we begin to generalize, we fail to have meaningful dialogue."

>> (Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt, 2008)

>>

>> "Live with intention. Share inside~out smiles, inspire hope, seek awe and

>> nurture in nature."

>>

>>

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