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000 FXUS04 KWBC 072159 QPFPFD QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 455 PM EST SAT FEB 07 2009 FINAL DAY 1...DAY 2 AND DAY 3 QPF DISCUSSION VALID FEB 08/0000 UTC THRU FEB 11/0000 UTC REFERENCE AWIPS GRAPHICS UNDER...PRECIP ACCUM - 24HR DAY 1... 18Z UPDATE... ONLY MINOR ADJUSTMENTS WERE MADE TO PRELIMS BASED ON SATL/RADAR IMAGERY GIVEN REASONABLY CLOSE MODEL AGREEMENT. SOUTHWEST...GTBASIN INTO THE SRN ROCKIES... NO MAJOR DISAGRMNTS DAY 1 IN THE LATEST MODEL CYCLE AS THE NEXT...IN WHAT WILL LIKELY BE AN EXTENDED SERIES OF NERN PAC HT FALLS TO EJECT ENEWD FROM A MEAN TROF PSN ALONG OR OFF THE WEST COAST...MOVES FROM SRN CA EWD THRU THE SWRN U.S. AND GTBASIN REGION. STRENGTHENING SLY LOW LEVEL FLOW AND INCREASING PWS AHEAD OF THIS SYSTEM WL SUPPORT MDT TO HVY PCPN AMTS OVR THE SRN GTBASIN INTO AZ. WHILE PW VALUES DO RISE...MODEL CONT TO SHOW PW ANOMALIES ONLY IN THE 1 TO 1.5 STD ABOVE THE MEAN RANGE AHEAD OF THIS CLOSED LOW ACRS THE SW AND GTBASIN. THIS WL LIKELY PRECLUDE VERY HEAVY PCPN AMTS AHEAD OF THIS TROF...ALTHOUGH MAX PCPN AMTS OF 1-2" POSSIBLE IN THE FAVORED UPSLOPE REGIONS OF CNTRL AZ. THERE IS ONLY SOME SLIGHT TIMING DIFFS WITH RESPECT TO THE EWD PUSH OF PCPN IN THE LATEST GUIDANCE...WITH THE GFS A BIT FASTER IN PUSHING PCPN EWD. OTHERWISE...THE OPERATIONAL AND SREF GUIDANCE IS IN AGRMNT IN SHOWING MAX .50-1.5"+ PCPN AMTS IN THE FAVORED TERRAIN REGIONS OF CNTRL AZ..WITH LIGHTER AREAL AVG AMTS EXTENDING NWD INTO THE GTBASIN AND SRN ROCKIES. FOR QPF DETAILS WE FOLLOWED THE 12 KM NAM OUTPUT FOR THE TERRAIN REGIONS OF CNTRL AZ/SWRN UT...WITH THE SREF MEAN ELSEWHERE GIVEN A LARGER MODEL SPREAD AWAY FROM THE FAVORED TERRAIN REGIONS. NWRN CA...COASTAL PAC NW... THE NEXT AREA OF HT FALLS TO DIVE INTO THE MEAN TROF ALONG THE WEST COAST WL APPCH THE PAC NW COAST LATE DAY 1. THE BIGGEST AFFECTS FROM THIS SYSTEM FOR DAY 1 WL BE TO ACT AS THE KICKER TO THE LEAD SYSTEM MOVG THRU THE SW. OTHERWISE...LARGE SCALE LIFT AND PCPN ALONG THE ASSOC FRONT WL BE MOVG INTO COASTAL NWRN CA AND COASTAL PAC NW SUN AFTERNOON. AT THE MOMENT...GIVEN THE TIMING OF THIS NEXT SYSTEM....PCPN AMTS DAY 1 EXPECTED TO BE LIGHT DAY 1...WITH THE LATEST OPERATIONAL AND SREF GUIDANCE IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS SCENARIO. OH VALLEY INTO THE NORTHEAST... THE AMPLIFYING UPR FLOW ACRS NERN NOAM WL HELP PUSH A CDFNT SEWD DAY 1 ACRS THE NERN QUARTER OF THE NATION. WHILE PW VALUES ARE EXPECTED TO BE ABOVE NORMAL ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT...OVERALL LARGE SCALE FORCING FOR LIFT IS NOT VERY FAVORABLE. SUBSEQUENTLY...EXPECT MOSTLY LIGHT PCPN AMTS ALONG THE BNDRY FROM THE OH VALLEY INTO THE NORTHEAST. EXCEPTIONS MAY BE IN UPSLOPE AREAS OF THE CNTRL APPALACHIANS...NRN NY AND NRN NEW ENGLAND WHERE SOME MDT PCPN AMTS OF .10-.20"+ ARE POSSIBLE. CNTRL PLAINS... THE LOW LEVEL FLOW INTO THE WRN PORTION OF THE SFC FRONT EXTENDING WWD FROM THE OH VALLEY INTO THE CNTRL PLAINS IS EXPECTED TO STRENGTHEN LATE DAY 1 AHEAD OF THE ENEWD EJECTING SWRN CLOSED LOW. AT THE MOMENT...SGFNT PCPN LIKELY TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE DAY 1 PERIOD..WITH MOSTLY LIGHT AMTS EXPECTED OVR THE CNTRL HIGH PLAINS IN THE REGION OF OVERRUNNING. DAY 2... GLOBAL MODELS HAVE BEEN IN EXCELLENT AGREEMENT THROUGH DAY 2...AND WITH GOOD RUN TO RUN CONSISTENCY. MAJOR PRCIPITATION EVENT SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY WILL BE WITH THE FLOW OF MOISTURE FROM THE WESTERN GLFMEX FROM TX TO ND. AS THE SURFACE LOW BECOMES FOCUSED IN THE DAKOTAS DIFFERENCES START TO DEVELOP BETWEEN THE GFS AND EC. THE EC SHOWS A MORE PROGRESSIVE 500 THAN THE GFS AND MOVES THE SFC LOW ACCORDINGLY. THE RUN TO RUN CONSISSTENCY OF THE GFS...AND THE HINT OF A TREND IN THE EC TO MOVE TOWARD THE GFS...LEADS US TO FAVOR THE GFS SOLUTION. THE IMPACT WILL BE TO HOLD ONTO THE AXIS OF HEAVIEST QPF IN A BAND FROM CENTRAL NE ACRS CENTRAL SD AND E-CENTRAL ND. MEANWHILE THE CONTINUING LONG WAVE ACROSS THE WESTERN STATES AND THE COLD AIR WILL LEAD TO OROGRAPHICALLY FAVORED SNOW. HEAVIEST QPF WILL DEVEOP IN AZ AS DIGGING TROUGH MOVES ACROSS CA INTO SW. DAY 3... GLOBAL MODELS CONTINUE TO BE REASONABLY CONSISTENT. MOST NOTICEABLE DIFFERENCE IS IN THE PROGRESS OF THE 500 TROUGH INTO CANADA WHILE THE GFS HOLDS BACK MORE IN THE DAKOTAS. SURFACE LOW WRAPPING UP IN MN COMPAERS WITH SFC LOW ON EC MOVING NORTH OF LAKE SUPERIOR. MANUAL GRAPHICS FAVOR THE GFS FOR ITS CONSISTENCY AND THEREFORE MAINTAINED THE HEAVIER PCPN IN THE COMMA HEAD OVER THE WESTERN DAKOTAS. MEANWHILE THE SURF HIGH MOVING OFF THE EAST COAST WILL ALLOW THE SPREAD OF PCPN UP THE WESTERN SLOPES OF THE APLCNS...FROM LOWER MS VALLEY UP THE OH VALLEY AND INTO LOWER GREAT LAKES. 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