RE: [EPI-INFO] List more than 15 variables

Subject: Re: Problems with @@ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html

Carlos;

I am afraid at present there is no Macro Substitiution available in Analysis (this function hopefully will be added by the Developers to a future update in Epi2000).

Although limited in the area of Macro Substitution you can still use the value saved in the Variable. Below you can see how I used the Dialog in the Menu, and a Select in Analysis.

Best

Marc
Los Angeles County

From the MNU

dialog "Enter the First Date to include mm/dd/yyyy (to select all dates enter 1/01/1900)", tdate1
dialog "Enter the Last Date to include mm/dd/yyyy (to select all dates enter 1/01/2100", tdate2

From the PGM in Analysis

select cdob >= tdate1 and cdob <= tdate2
_______________________________________________

>From: Carlos Reyes

>Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group

>To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV

>Subject: [EPI-INFO] Problems with @@

>Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:17:03 -0800

>Hi, I'm doing some programs in Analysis of Epi Info

>2000, but I have doubts,

>I hope you'll help me.

>In my program I ask a date with the Dialog command,

>but I need that date in the EpiInfo browser.

>To ask the date I use:

>DIALOG "Please write the initial date (mm/dd/yyyy)?"

>date TITLETEXT="Initial Date"

>After this I used the following instruction:

>type "The Initial date is: " @@date

>I also used:

>type "The Initial date is: @@date"

>but any of these work.

>I want the date in the Analysis browser because I need

>to print them.

>What Can I do?, please help me!!

>Sincerely

> Carlos Reyes.

>__________________________________________________

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========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:04:41 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Baker, Stephen" Subject: verification in epi info 2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I was asked if double entry verification is still possible in Epi Info 2000. I searched through the documentation I downloaded and can't find the answer to this. Does anyone know one way or another? Thanks. Stephen Baker ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:29:45 +0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Mark Myatt Subject: Re: verification in epi info 2000 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Baker, Stephen writes: >I was asked if double entry verification is still possible in Epi Info 2000. >I searched through the documentation I downloaded and can't find the answer >to this. Does anyone know one way or another? It is available in EpiData (http://www.epidata.dk). Mark -- Mark Myatt ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:28:28 +0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Mark Myatt Subject: Re: Limit of records in EPI6 Comments: To: bennani@fmp-uh2c.ac.ma In-Reply-To: <3AB0DFDC.499A0B16@fmp-uh2c.ac.ma> MIME-Version: 1.0 Bennani Othmani Mohammed writes: >Please can someone inform me about limits of records of file.rec in >epi6 and max limits of lines in .qes File The limit on records is just above 4 billion. The limit on lines in a .QES file is 500. The limit on record width is 2048 bytes (characters). EpiData (http://www.epidata.dk) relaxes these limits but if you want to analyse data with EpiInfo v6.xx ANALYSIS then these limits should be adhered to. Mark -- Mark Myatt ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:31:03 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Stephen P. Baker" Subject: Re: verification in epi info 2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Mark, EpiData looks interesting, I'll check it out. Does this mean verification is NOT available in EpiInfo2000? -.- -.. .---- .--. ..-. Stephen P. Baker, MScPH (508) 856-2625 Lecturer in Biostatistics (209) 391-7902 fax Academic Computing Services University of Massachusetts Medical School 55 Lake Avenue North stephen.baker@umassmed.edu Worcester, MA 01655 USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Myatt" To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] verification in epi info 2000 > Baker, Stephen writes: > >I was asked if double entry verification is still possible in Epi Info 2000. > >I searched through the documentation I downloaded and can't find the answer > >to this. Does anyone know one way or another? > > It is available in EpiData (http://www.epidata.dk). > > Mark > > -- > Mark Myatt > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:52:31 +0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Mark Myatt Subject: Re: verification in epi info 2000 In-Reply-To: <003301c0ae1d$5c930f00$6501a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Stephen P. Baker writes: >Thanks Mark, > >EpiData looks interesting, I'll check it out. > >Does this mean verification is NOT available in EpiInfo2000? It was not there the last time I looked but that was some months ago. I am not an EpiInfo2000 user. Mark -- Mark Myatt ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:13:28 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Jens M. Lauritsen (JeL@sus.fyns-amt.dk)" Subject: Re: double entry - and limits of fields Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think validation (double entry) is not available in epi2k. If you entered your data in epi2000 export the two files to rec files and then do the validation with epidata. Another question yesterday was the limit on number of fields. Epiinfo v6 can have as many fields as you can fit into 500 lines of a qes file. Actually analysis.exe of v6 will read rec files that have lines up to 999. The reason for the 999 is a mere limitation on a parameter which indicates the position from the beginning of the dataentry screen, saying this is line xxx. And there is only place for 3 digits.=20 EpiData has the same principle. But with 500 (or 999) plenty of fields can be there. E.g. if you have 5 fields pr line it will be more than 1000 fields which should be sufficient for all well planned empirical datasets in general settings.=20 e.g. six fields on one line: v1 # v2 # v3 # v4 # v5 # v6 # Sometimes timeseries studies have more variables, but then you would most likely not enter the data by "hand", but extract them from some other system. At 00:00 16-03-2001 -0500, you wrote:=20 >>>> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:00:03 -0500=20 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group =20 Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group =20 From: Automatic digest processor =20 Subject: EPI-INFO Digest - 14 Mar 2001 to 15 Mar 2001 (#2001-60)=20 To: Recipients of EPI-INFO digests =20 MIME-Version: 1.0=20 There are 9 messages totalling 383 lines in this issue.=20 Topics of the day:=20 1. List more than 15 variables=20 2. Limitations of list command=20 3. codes in more than two fields=20 4. Draw Random Sample in EPI2000=20 5. Epi-Cal and the epi-info interface.=20 6. Limit of records in EPI6=20 7. Problems with @@ (2)=20 8. verification in epi info 2000=20 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:05:16 +0500=20 From: "azfar.siddiqi" =20 Subject: Re: List more than 15 variables=20 MIME-Version: 1.0=20 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=3D"----_=3D_NextPart_001_01C0AD0D.866B4150"=20 ArialApproach suggested by Kevin Sullivan is the best way to 'see' a list of variables. Following is strategy you can print out the list, change font, format etc. ArialHowever, the list * command does work for al the variables and not just first 15. I tried it on a file with 145 variables and it worked. The problem arises when you have a lot of data in your file, then the top part of the output going to your screen gets truncated due to memory limitations. ArialAzfar Siddiqi M.B.B.S, M.Sc.=20 ArialSenior Instructor=20 ArialDepartment of Community Health Sciences=20 ArialThe Aga Khan University=20 ArialP.O. Box 3500=20 ArialKarachi 74800=20 ArialPakistan.=20 ArialPhone: 9221-48594899=20 Arial9221-4930051 Ext. 4899=20 ArialE-mail: <Arial0000,0000,ffffazfar.siddiqi@aku.edu=20 ArialOfficial:= Yes=20 ArialBudget code:= 611=20 Arial-----Original= Message-----=20 ArialFrom: Jorge Esquivel= [SMTP:jmesquivel@CONSUSALUD.COM.AR]=20 ArialSent: = = ArialThursday, March 15, 2001 4:31= AM=20 ArialTo: = = ArialEPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV=20 ArialSubject: = = Arial[EPI-INFO] List more than 15= variables=20 ArialIts impossible, in the epi6=20 Arialthe LIST *,=A0=A0=A0=A0 or the LIST FIELD1= TO FIELD 55 command=20 Arialonly show the first 15= variables=20 ArialIt's independent of the set page or the set= plines command=20 ArialThat appear as limitation of the analysis= program=20 Arial=A0=20 ArialThank you=20 ArialJorge=20 ArialArgentina=20 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:17:03 +0000=20 From: Mark Myatt =20 Subject: Re: Limitations of list command=20 MIME-Version: 1.0=20 Jorge Esquivel writes:=20 > Hello!=20 > Does anybody know if the LIST command is limited to 15 variables??=20 No limit in EpiData. In EpiInfo v6.xx ANALYSIS try:=20 LIST *=20 No idea about EI2000=20 Mark=20 --=20 Mark Myatt=20 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:20:24 +0000=20 From: Mark Myatt =20 Subject: Re: codes in more than two fields=20 MIME-Version: 1.0=20 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=3Diso-8859-1=20 Gustavo Silva writes:=20 > =A0=20 > >Perhaps will work with cascading codefields and duplicated rec=20 > codes files, each with a specific .chk=20 > >...=20 > >code2 and code3.rec are copies of your original code.rec with the=20 > fields=20 > >code/name/method/factor... You have to make different key=20 > declarations in=20 > >each associated chk for having the right fields choosen :=20 > >...=20 > >...Question is : will Epi6 cascade automatically when your user=20 > will enter data=20 > >in the first 'code' field or will it stop at the second=A0 'name'=20 > field ? I=20 > >don't know but I guess it will not. Tell the list if you try this=20 > >semi-complicated solution !=20 >=20 > Well,=A0codes list is long (100 - 1000), so I try this. It works,=20 > partially. When the user enters data in "Code" field, all other=20 > options are visible whit F9. User only must hit enter in each=20 > field, and the correct option is automatically written for Name,=20 > Method, Factor. It works fine, Ren=E9.=20 > I=B4m still looking for something to reduce user participation, in=20 > order to set option (in Name, Method, and Factor) that he will not=20 > be able to interchange.=20 > So, it seems that I will have to use If-Then sentences. Jorge,=20 > Omar, please send me a big cup of coffee!=20 > =A0=20 EpiData will do this. Examples in the Hierartest.* Files in the SAMPLES=20 directory. Get EpiData from:=20 http://www.epidata.dk=20 Mark=20 --=20 Mark Myatt=20 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:57:41 +0000=20 From: Mark Myatt =20 Subject: Re: Draw Random Sample in EPI2000=20 MIME-Version: 1.0=20 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=3Diso-8859-1=20 H J Gerber writes:=20 > Hi All,=20 > =A0=20 > I want to draw a random sample in EPI2000. I want to generate the=20 > random numbers,=20 > so StatCalc won't do. Is there a way?=20 > I think you could do it in Epi 6.=20 EpiTable can do it. ANALYSIS will do it with RAN() / RND() and GENERATE.=20 EpiCalc 2000 (www.myatt.demon.co.uk) does it too.=20 Mark=20 --=20 Mark Myatt=20 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:28:51 -0500=20 From: Richard A Phaneuf =20 Subject: Epi-Cal and the epi-info interface.=20 MIME-Version: 1.0=20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii=20 My techs have giving me a new computer but they lost my installation program= for=20 epical. Could someone please forward the url to downlaod it, for i cannot= seem=20 to find it on the net.=20 My techs reinstalled epiinfo and thus wrote over my mnu file to which i had= =20 added buttons to launch epidata and epical. To do the same just consult the= =20 button command in your manual. I believe both these programs should be= packaged=20 with epiinfo.=20 richard_phaneuf@ssss.gouv.qc.ca=20 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:29:32 +0000=20 From: Bennani Othmani Mohammed =20 Subject: Limit of records in EPI6=20 MIME-Version: 1.0=20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1=20 Please can someone inform me about limits of records of file.rec in=20 epi6 and max limits of lines in .qes File=20 Sincerly your's=20 Dr Bennani Othmani Med=20 Laboratoire de Biostatistiques-Epid=E9miologie & Informatique M=E9dicale=20 Facult=E9 de M=E9decine de Csablanca=20 Morocco=20 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:17:03 -0800=20 From: Carlos Reyes =20 Subject: Problems with @@=20 MIME-Version: 1.0=20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii=20 Hi, I'm doing some programs in Analysis of Epi Info=20 2000, but I have doubts,=20 I hope you'll help me.=20 In my program I ask a date with the Dialog command,=20 but I need that date in the EpiInfo browser.=20 To ask the date I use:=20 DIALOG "Please write the initial date (mm/dd/yyyy)?"=20 date TITLETEXT=3D"Initial Date"=20 After this I used the following instruction:=20 type "The Initial date is: " @@date=20 I also used:=20 type "The Initial date is: @@date"=20 but any of these work.=20 I want the date in the Analysis browser because I need=20 to print them.=20 What Can I do?, please help me!!=20 Sincerely=20 Carlos Reyes.=20 __________________________________________________=20 Do You Yahoo!?=20 Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices.=20 http://auctions.yahoo.com/=20 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:51:22 -0800=20 From: Marc Strassburg =20 Subject: Re: Problems with @@=20 MIME-Version: 1.0=20 Content-Type: text/html=20 Carlos; I am afraid at present there is no Macro Substitiution available in Analysis= (this function hopefully will be added by the Developers to a future update= in Epi2000). Although limited in the area of Macro Substitution you can still use the= value saved in the Variable. Below you can see how I used the Dialog in the= Menu, and a Select in Analysis. Best Marc Los Angeles County From the MNU dialog "Enter the First Date to include mm/dd/yyyy (to select all dates= enter 1/01/1900)", tdate1=20 dialog "Enter the Last Date to include mm/dd/yyyy (to select all dates enter= 1/01/2100", tdate2=20 From the PGM in Analysis select cdob >=3D tdate1 and cdob <<=3D tdate2 _______________________________________________ >From: Carlos Reyes =20 >Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group =20 >To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV=20 >Subject: [EPI-INFO] Problems with @@=20 >Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:17:03 -0800=20 >=20 >Hi, I'm doing some programs in Analysis of Epi Info=20 >2000, but I have doubts,=20 >=20 >I hope you'll help me.=20 >In my program I ask a date with the Dialog command,=20 >but I need that date in the EpiInfo browser.=20 >To ask the date I use:=20 >DIALOG "Please write the initial date (mm/dd/yyyy)?"=20 >date TITLETEXT=3D"Initial Date"=20 >=20 >After this I used the following instruction:=20 >type "The Initial date is: " @@date=20 >I also used:=20 >type "The Initial date is: @@date"=20 >but any of these work.=20 >I want the date in the Analysis browser because I need=20 >to print them.=20 >=20 >What Can I do?, please help me!!=20 >=20 >Sincerely=20 > Carlos Reyes.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >__________________________________________________=20 >Do You Yahoo!?=20 >Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices.=20 >http://auctions.yahoo.com/=20 ---------- Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at= <http://explorer.msn.com Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:04:41 -0500=20 From: "Baker, Stephen" =20 Subject: verification in epi info 2000=20 MIME-Version: 1.0=20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"=20 I was asked if double entry verification is still possible in Epi Info 2000.= =20 I searched through the documentation I downloaded and can't find the answer= =20 to this. Does anyone know one way or another?=20 Thanks.=20 Stephen Baker=20 <<<<<<<< Kindly=20 Jens M. Lauritsen, Senior Registrar, PhD. Fyns Amt (County of Fyn), Health Service Division e-mail: JM.Lauritsen@dadlnet.dk=20 For info on EpiData (dataentry), see: Http://www.epidata.dk ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:55:20 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Betty C. Jung" Subject: Re: Message Board Update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello, Everybody, Thanks to all who visited the Epi Forums Message Boards! Unfortunately, the company must have suffered a "Wall Street" downturn (things happen so fast on the Net). I'm sorry if you had problems with postings. I have set up another message board that is easy to use. Just click on the blinking graphic "View My Message Board" on the Epi Forums Page and you will get right to the message board. Post what you like on it (as long as it pertains to Epi Info or EpiData). I will make every effort to respond to those postings pertaining to Epi Info 6, as I have used this software for many years. I will compile any postings that I think will be useful for all Epi Info 6 users into a Web page that will be accessible from the Epi Forums Web page. If you have nice tricks and ideas you've developed and used over the years, you can send them in, and I'll put it on a Web page. You will be properly credited for your creativity. I am doing this primarily for the benefit of my students. I also get a lot of questions from professionals who have attended my Epi Info workshops. Rather than spend time on the phone, or sending out numerous e-mails, I would like to be able to send them somewhere that they can get answers to their questions, whether from me or others who use the software. Thanks for your understanding. Betty C. Jung http://www.geocities.com/bettycjung/Epiforums.htm -- Betty C. Jung eFax: (603)807-5694 http://get-me.to/betty http://www.geocities.com/bettycjung http://www.bigfoot.com/~bettycjung __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 06:51:03 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Bud Gerstman Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info - REC VS MDB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01C0AEAE.A1F7FBA0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C0AEAE.A1F7FBA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for your insights, Marc. Your note points out that there are many = types of Epi Info users. However, I am still concerned that Epi2000 may = have over-shot its mark. We are many years away from universal broadband = access, still stuck in the trenches of voice-band, most of the time. And = the wide-spread use of 1 GHz machines with better than floppy = transportable storage is still many years away. (My opinion: EI2K is = less than fully functional on slower, less capable machines.) The future = certainly brings the need for the applications you suggest, but most of = us a stuck with present hardware limitations and modest software = expertise. Bottom line: I still would rather have an Epi Info for = Windows that does a few things reliably and well. I think it is = essential for CDC to support the development of the proposed EI7W, and = to do this with external funding to the EpiData development team. This, = of course, is just my opinion, and others may differ.=20 With respect,=20 Bud Gerstman ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Marc Strassburg=20 To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi Info - REC VS MDB Greetings: REC vs MDB As a longtime Epi5 and 6 user/developer, I strongly endorse CDC's = decision to move to an ODBC database which is in common use. Here at the Los Angeles County Health Department we place a large = number of databases onto our Internet or Intranet. It is easy for us to = develop an MDB in Epi2000 and then place it on our server and hit it = with a CGI application. (Although Access may not be as robust as = 'Industrial Strength' DB's such as SQL7/2000, Oracle, Sybase, etc, = ---for small web based querry applications it serves quite well.). Best Marc L.A. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C0AEAE.A1F7FBA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks for your insights, Marc. Your note points out that there are = many=20 types of Epi Info users. However, I am still concerned that Epi2000 may = have=20 over-shot its mark. We are many years away from universal broadband = access,=20 still stuck in the trenches of voice-band, most of the time. And the = wide-spread=20 use of 1 GHz machines with better than floppy transportable storage is = still=20 many years away. (My opinion: EI2K is less than fully functional on = slower, less=20 capable machines.) The future certainly brings the need for the = applications you=20 suggest, but most of us a stuck with present hardware limitations and = modest=20 software expertise. Bottom line: I still would rather have an Epi Info = for=20 Windows that does a few things reliably and well. I think it is = essential for=20 CDC to support the development of the proposed EI7W, and to do this with = external funding to the EpiData development team. This, of course, is = just my=20 opinion, and others may differ.

With respect,

Bud Gerstman

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Marc=20 Strassburg
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV =

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 = 9:43=20 AM

Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Future = of Epi=20 Info - REC VS MDB

Greetings:

REC vs MDB

As a longtime Epi5 and 6 user/developer, I strongly endorse CDC's = decision=20 to move to an ODBC database which is in common use.

Here at the Los Angeles County Health Department we place a = large=20 number of databases onto our Internet or Intranet. It is = easy for us=20 to develop an MDB in Epi2000 and then place it on our server and = hit it=20 with a CGI application. (Although Access may not be as = robust=20 as 'Industrial Strength' DB's such as SQL7/2000, Oracle, Sybase, = etc,=20 ---for small web based querry applications it serves quite well.).

Best

Marc
L.A.

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------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C0AEAE.A1F7FBA0-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 15:51:47 EST Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Djelloul HORRI-NACEUR Subject: problem with ENTER and ENTERX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Gilibert I had the same problem with epi6 ENTER and ENTERX (runtime error 200) I tried the solution you proposed and it works nicely with PIII at 900 Mhz. moslo132.zip can be found and downloaded from: http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/dospage Gilibert wrote "In the zip attached you will find a freeware I use for running old .com or .exe dos programs witch give 'run time error 200' with high speed cpu. Never had to try it with Epi but it should work if the problem is really of the speed. The command for running Epi-Info will look like : MOSLO.COM /20 c:\EPI\EPI6.EXE The parameter /20 (ie % of actual cpu speed I think) can be ajusted but in my experience it works best. Plz tell me if it works for your fast PC." best wishes to all Dj Horri-Naceur, medecin epidemiologiste unite d'hygiene hospitaliere C H Beauvais France ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:47:50 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Dean, Andrew G." Subject: Re: problem with ENTER and ENTERX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Problems With Fast Computers The Epi Info 6 programs have been recompiled with libraries and compiler patches to fix the error described below. The programs will be available on our website soon, but those in a hurry can request them from the Epi Info Helpline at epiinfo@cdc.gov Andy Dean -----Original Message----- From: Djelloul HORRI-NACEUR [mailto:Dhorri@AOL.COM] Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:52 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] problem with ENTER and ENTERX Thanks Gilibert I had the same problem with epi6 ENTER and ENTERX (runtime error 200) I tried the solution you proposed and it works nicely with PIII at 900 Mhz. moslo132.zip can be found and downloaded from: http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/dospage Gilibert wrote "In the zip attached you will find a freeware I use for running old .com or .exe dos programs witch give 'run time error 200' with high speed cpu. Never had to try it with Epi but it should work if the problem is really of the speed. The command for running Epi-Info will look like : MOSLO.COM /20 c:\EPI\EPI6.EXE The parameter /20 (ie % of actual cpu speed I think) can be ajusted but in my experience it works best. Plz tell me if it works for your fast PC." best wishes to all Dj Horri-Naceur, medecin epidemiologiste unite d'hygiene hospitaliere C H Beauvais France ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:54:22 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Dean, Andrew G." Subject: Re: Draw Random Sample in EPI2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=3Dnavclient&q=3D%22Random+Number+G= enerator %22 The search above in Google.com turned up 79,000 references to random = number generators, some of which are quite sophisticated and many of which are free. This may be why we have not done a standalone generator for Epi = 2000 yet, but meanwhile, there are lots of random numbers available if you = have web access. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Myatt [mailto:mark@MYATT.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 6:58 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Draw Random Sample in EPI2000 H J Gerber writes: > Hi All, > =A0 > I want to draw a random sample in EPI2000. I want to generate the=20 > random numbers, > so StatCalc won't do. Is there a way? > I think you could do it in Epi 6. EpiTable can do it. ANALYSIS will do it with RAN() / RND() and = GENERATE. EpiCalc 2000 (www.myatt.demon.co.uk) does it too. Mark -- Mark Myatt ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:56:39 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Dean, Andrew G." Subject: Re: Limitations of list command MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" LIST * works well in Epi 2000 -----Original Message----- From: Mark Myatt [mailto:mark@MYATT.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 6:17 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Limitations of list command Jorge Esquivel writes: > Hello! > Does anybody know if the LIST command is limited to 15 variables?? No limit in EpiData. In EpiInfo v6.xx ANALYSIS try: LIST * No idea about EI2000 Mark -- Mark Myatt ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:00:05 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Dean, Andrew G." Subject: Re: Limitations of list command Comments: cc: EPI Info Helpdesk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0AF36.0182FBB0" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0AF36.0182FBB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In Epi 2000, if you would like to limit the list to the first 25 records, use SELECT UNIQUEKEY < 26, for example, before you do the list. It isn't much fun to list 100,000 records currently, and it generates a very large HTML page! Don't forget to unselect with SELECT so that you can proceed with the analysis. -----Original Message----- From: azfar.siddiqi [mailto:azfar.siddiqi@AKU.EDU] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 2:34 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Limitations of list command No, it isn't. Type (list *) without parentheses and your computer will run the list command for all variables in the dataset. Azfar Siddiqi M.B.B.S, M.Sc. Senior Instructor Department of Community Health Sciences The Aga Khan University P.O. Box 3500 Karachi 74800 Pakistan. Phone: 9221-48594899 9221-4930051 Ext. 4899 E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu Official: Yes Budget code: 611 BM__MailData-----Original Message----- From: Jorge Esquivel [SMTP:jmesquivel@CONSUSALUD.COM.AR] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 4:46 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Limitations of list command Hello! Does anybody know if the LIST command is limited to 15 variables?? Thank you Jorge Esquivel Buenos Aires ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0AF36.0182FBB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: [EPI-INFO] Limitations of list command

In Epi 2000, if you would like to limit the list to the first 25 records, use SELECT UNIQUEKEY < 26, for example, before you do the list. It isn't much fun to list 100,000 records currently, and it generates a very large HTML page! Don't forget to unselect with SELECT so that you can proceed with the analysis.

-----Original Message-----
From: azfar.siddiqi [mailto:azfar.siddiqi@AKU.EDU]
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 2:34 AM
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Limitations of list command

No, it isn't. Type (list *) without parentheses and your computer will run the list command for all variables in the dataset.

Azfar Siddiqi M.B.B.S, M.Sc.
Senior Instructor
Department of Community Health Sciences
The Aga Khan University
P.O. Box 3500
Karachi 74800
Pakistan.

Phone: 9221-48594899
        9221-4930051 Ext. 4899
E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu

Official: Yes
Budget code: 611

-----Original Message-----
From:   Jorge Esquivel [SMTP:jmesquivel@CONSUSALUD.COM.AR]
Sent:   Sunday, March 11, 2001 4:46 AM
To:     EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject:        [EPI-INFO] Limitations of list command

Hello!
Does anybody know if the LIST command is limited to 15 variables??

Thank you
Jorge Esquivel
Buenos Aires

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0AF36.0182FBB0-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:20:23 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Dean, Andrew G." Subject: Re: Future of Epi-Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Epi Info 2000 menu will run MNU files developed for EpiGlue in Epi = 6, and has additional features that allow one to develop a Windows = application front end, but still call Epi 6 programs to do work behind the scenes. = It is quite possible to develop applications using the Epi 2000 menu and = Epi 6 programs, if you don't mind a few DOS windows.=20 The only time the DOS windows are a problem is when you are projecting = a demo via a high-resolution projector, and the poor projector suddenly encounters a 640 x 480 screen in the midst of 1024 x 768 Windows = screens. But this is not a problem on a monitor. -----Original Message----- From: Freund, Robert-Jean [mailto:RJFreund@ENSP.FR] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 9:39 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi-Info And if Epiglue-like capacities are added to be able to develop menus = and shell 98% of present needs are covered Then we can think to links to some existing modules in Epi2K: Epimap = and survival analysis Robert J.FREUND Epidemiologiste, Professeur =20 Ecole Nationale de la Sante Publique =20 Av Prof Leon Bernard 35043 RENNES-Cedex France tel 33(0)2 99 02 28 62 fax 33(0)2 99 02 26 23 =20 email ensp: rjfreund@ensp.fr http://www.ensp.fr =20 international web mail : rfreund@voila.fr =20 =20 > -----Message d'origine----- > De: cgreen [SMTP:cgreen@WEBSPINNERS.CA] > Date: jeudi 8 mars 2001 14:55 > =C0: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Objet: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi-Info >=20 > I think that Lucas Gonza's comment that ANALYSIS is the priority = module to > convert is exactly right. The Analysis module of Epi-Info 6.04 is > unequalled in terms of a balance between simplicity and power - it = would > be a shame to lose this capacity as new and emerging operating = systems > render the original Analysis program unusable. A restructured = Analysis > Program paired with Epi-Data would likely meet 95% of the needs of = most > users. >=20 > A restructured and more robust Report module would also be very = useful, > especially in setting up turn key surveillance systems. >=20 >=20 > Chris Green > Manitoba Health Epidemiology Unit > Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:34:12 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Dean, Andrew G." Subject: Re: Future of Epi info--Status of next releases MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0AF3A.C581DC80" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0AF3A.C581DC80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sorry for the long absence from the List. We have been busy with development, testing, teaching, stomping bugs, etc. We plan to have a new version of Epi Info 6 ready within a few weeks. It addresses the problems that people have encountered with fast computers causing the programs not to run. These proved to be fixable and we should have a more compact version with all the "Year 2000" upgrade features integrated as well. It will not, however, be a Windows version of Epi 6. The next version of Epi Info 2000, will be 1.1. It will contain the CSAMPLE features for analysis of complex sample data, as well as a number of bug fixes. Epi Info 2000, Version 1.2 will contain a package for data entry on a web server, using the same questionnaire developed for the desktop, and also NUTSTAT with the year 2000 growth reference curves distributed by the U.S. National Center for Health Statistics. It will also have a conversion utility for .CHK files from Epi 6. Hopefully 1.1 will be released quite soon, and 1.2 in a few months. As you know from this List, EpiData for Windows is another alternative for data entry using Epi 6 QES and REC files. We are also trying to find a way to make it easier to move back and forth between Epi 6 data files and those for Epi 2000, although Epi 2000 already can import and export to Epi 6 format and will analyze Epi 6 files by making a temporary import table of which the user is not aware. We had a Retreat with 20+ users, some of whom you know well from the List, and we should have a summary available soon. Keep those emails coming. Andy Dean -----Original Message----- From: Dr. Shavinder Singh [mailto:shav123@SATYAM.NET.IN] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 11:02 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi info A user's viewpoint - Epi info ver 5 and 6 have been with us for a decade. We have been hoping of an upgrade in the near future. All of us users know that Epi info really became usable only after ver 5 onwards. We are seeing the similar teething problems with Epi info 2000. Very few among us have jumped into the bandwagon. This new release needs time to settle the bugs. I am not a technical person. However being a user I have two humble suggestions- 1. An upgrade of Epi info 6.04 (written in turbo pascal) should be developed in windows version. Many friends have named it EI7 for windows. This should be developed fast. 2. Epi info 2000 can be a another software with enhanced features. This can be developed subsequently. Frankly it is not convenient to use one software for data entry, another for analysis and a third one for printing the formatted reports. Andy Dean and his team did a marvelous job all these years, single handedly. They need our support in whatever form it can be. Epi info 6.04 is really doing good job on our old 386 machines. For my field work it has lot of good features. I want this legacy to remain alive and prosper. I request Andy Dean to let us know the current status of development of the next upgrades. Once again I extend my full support to the Epi info Developer Team at CDC. Yours Sincerely, Dr. Shavinder Singh Deptt. of Community Medicine Christian Medical College, Ludhiana. - 141008 Punjab India. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0AF3A.C581DC80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"

Sorry for the long absence from the List. We have been busy with development, testing, teaching, stomping bugs, etc.

We plan to have a new version of Epi Info 6 ready within a few weeks. It addresses the problems that people have encountered with fast computers causing the programs not to run. These proved to be fixable and we should have a more compact version with all the "Year 2000" upgrade features integrated as well. It will not, however, be a Windows version of Epi 6.

The next version of Epi Info 2000, will be 1.1. It will contain the CSAMPLE features for analysis of complex sample data, as well as a number of bug fixes. Epi Info 2000, Version 1.2 will contain a package for data entry on a web server, using the same questionnaire developed for the desktop, and also NUTSTAT with the year 2000 growth reference curves distributed by the U.S. National Center for Health Statistics. It will also have a conversion utility for .CHK files from Epi 6. Hopefully 1.1 will be released quite soon, and 1.2 in a few months.

As you know from this List, EpiData for Windows is another alternative for data entry using Epi 6 QES and REC files. We are also trying to find a way to make it easier to move back and forth between Epi 6 data files and those for Epi 2000, although Epi 2000 already can import and export to Epi 6 format and will analyze Epi 6 files by making a temporary import table of which the user is not aware.

We had a Retreat with 20+ users, some of whom you know well from the List, and we should have a summary available soon.

Keep those emails coming.

Andy Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Shavinder Singh [mailto:shav123@SATYAM.NET.IN]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 11:02 AM
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi info

A user's viewpoint -

Epi info ver 5 and 6 have been with us for a decade. We have been hoping of an upgrade in the near future. All of us users know that Epi info really became usable only after ver 5 onwards. We are seeing the similar teething problems with Epi info 2000. Very few among us have jumped into the bandwagon. This new release needs time to settle the bugs. I am not a technical person. However being a user I have two humble suggestions-

1. An upgrade of Epi info 6.04 (written in turbo pascal) should be developed in windows version. Many friends have named it EI7 for windows. This should be developed fast.

2. Epi info 2000 can be a another software with enhanced features. This can be developed subsequently.

Frankly it is not convenient to use one software for data entry, another for analysis and a third one for printing the formatted reports.

Andy Dean and his team did a marvelous job all these years, single handedly. They need our support in whatever form it can be.

Epi info 6.04 is really doing good job on our old 386 machines. For my field work it has lot of good features. I want this legacy to remain alive and prosper. I request Andy Dean to let us know the current status of development of the next upgrades.

Once again I extend my full support to the Epi info Developer Team at CDC.

Yours Sincerely,

Dr. Shavinder Singh

Deptt. of Community Medicine

Christian Medical College,

Ludhiana. - 141008

Punjab

India.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0AF3A.C581DC80-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 21:22:34 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Andrew J. O'Brien" Subject: working with dates MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am just getting used to EPI after a few years of none use, using Epi2000 for first time today. I seem to be making fair progress but I wonder if someone can help me lower the learning curve with some data I need to produce. I have an EPI database with 1620 entered questionnaire dating back to 1997, each has the date the questionnaire was filled out. . Several variables ask the respondents to respond to Likerk scaled questions that are entered into epi simply as a numeric value (1= unsatisfied, up to 4 = Very satisfied). I can produce a graph of satisfaction per variable for the entire database but would like to do a comparison of each year. I could use the SELECT command to produce individual charts per year but I figure there must be a more efficient way to compare each year on one graph. Thanks for any help, Andy. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 08:02:31 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Amelia Broussard Subject: Re: working with dates MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I have tried to unsubscribe to this list. Please remove me from the list serv. Thanks. Dr. Amelia Broussard Lead me not into temptation for I can find the way myself > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew J. O'Brien [SMTP:obrienaj@NETSYNC.NET] > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 9:23 PM > To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Subject: [EPI-INFO] working with dates > > I am just getting used to EPI after a few years of none use, using Epi2000 > for first time today. > > I seem to be making fair progress but I wonder if someone can help me > lower > the learning curve with some data I need to produce. > > I have an EPI database with 1620 entered questionnaire dating back to > 1997, > each has the date the questionnaire was filled out. . Several variables > ask the respondents to respond to Likerk scaled questions that are entered > into epi simply as a numeric value (1= unsatisfied, up to 4 = Very > satisfied). I can produce a graph of satisfaction per variable for the > entire database but would like to do a comparison of each year. I could > use > the SELECT command to produce individual charts per year but I figure > there > must be a more efficient way to compare each year on one graph. > > Thanks for any help, > > > Andy. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:52:55 +0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Mark Myatt Subject: Re: problem with ENTER and ENTERX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Djelloul HORRI-NACEUR writes: >Thanks Gilibert >I had the same problem with epi6 ENTER and ENTERX (runtime error 200) >I tried the solution you proposed and it works nicely with PIII at 900 Mhz. >moslo132.zip can be found and downloaded from: >http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/dospage Try EpiData (http://www.epidata.dk) which does the EpIInfo ENTER / CHECK things under Windows. Mark -- Mark Myatt ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 06:16:16 +0200 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Cristian Baicus Subject: Re: You are now subscribed to the EPI-INFO list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How can I analyze in EpiInfo 2000 a SPSS database? Thank you. Cristian Baicus at cbaicus@yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:09:46 +0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "azfar.siddiqi" Subject: Re: You are now subscribed to the EPI-INFO list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0B0FB.FB4A8A20" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B0FB.FB4A8A20 Content-Type: text/plain Using SPSS, save your data file as a database file (.dbf) and then read it in EPI2000. Azfar Siddiqi M.B.B.S, M.Sc. Department of Community Health Sciences The Aga Khan University P.O. Box 3500 Karachi 74800 Pakistan. Phone: 9221-48594899 9221-4930051 Ext. 4899 E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu Official: Yes -----Original Message----- From: Cristian Baicus [SMTP:cbaicus@YAHOO.COM] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 9:16 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] You are now subscribed to the EPI-INFO list How can I analyze in EpiInfo 2000 a SPSS database? Thank you. Cristian Baicus at cbaicus@yahoo.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B0FB.FB4A8A20 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [EPI-INFO] You are now subscribed to the EPI-INFO = list

Using SPSS, save your data file as a = database file (.dbf) and then read it in EPI2000.

Azfar Siddiqi M.B.B.S, M.Sc.
Department of Community Health = Sciences
The Aga Khan University
P.O. Box 3500
Karachi 74800
Pakistan.

Phone: 9221-48594899
9221-4930051 Ext. 4899
E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu

Official: Yes

-----Original = Message-----
From:   Cristian Baicus = [SMTP:cbaicus@YAHOO.COM]
Sent:   Tuesday, March 20, 2001 9:16 AM
To:     EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject:       = Re: [EPI-INFO] You are now = subscribed to the EPI-INFO list

How can I analyze in EpiInfo 2000 a = SPSS database?
Thank you.
Cristian Baicus at = cbaicus@yahoo.com

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0B0FB.FB4A8A20-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:23:53 -0400 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Olubankole Obikoya Subject: problem with total scores MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I need to get the total score on a questionnaire. What is the best way to compare the scores on a respondent's questionnaire with another respondent's? Is it possible to copy data in Enter Data to Microsoft Access and vice versa? Thanks Banki ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:41:15 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Yoon, Steven S" Subject: Announcement - Epi Info 2000 Course MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain TITLE: Developing Public Health Software Applications with Epi Info 2000 WHEN: May 15 - 18, 2001 DESCRIPTION: This is a four-day course providing hands-on experience with Epi Info 2000, programming Epi Info 2000 software at the intermediate to advanced level, and using Epi Info 2000 to develop public health data systems. WHO SHOULD ATTEND: The course is for practitioner of epidemiology and computing, with intermediate to advanced skills in computing, who wish to develop software applications in Epi Info 2000 for Windows 95, 98, NT, and 2000. DEADLINE: April 6, 2001 COSTS: $350 includes course fee, computer laboratory use, Epi Info 2000 software and manual and other course materials. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: Pia Valeriano, MBA 1518 Clifton Rd, NE Room 746 Atlanta, GA 30322 USA Phone: 404-727-3485 FAX: 404-727-4590 email: pvaleri@sph.emory.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:45:37 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Yoon, Steven S" Subject: Request for assistance in developing a FAQ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Dear Colleagues: The Epi Info Development Team is in the process of developing a FAQ for Epi Info. Several people have volunteered on the list to assist in the development of a FAQ. I would like to solicit their assistance. Please contact me at syoon@cdc.gov if you want to be a part of this process. Thanks. Steven Yoon, ScD, MPH Deputy Epi Info Development Team syoon@cdc.gov 770-488-8490 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:46:33 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Baker, Stephen" Subject: Re: Announcement - Epi Info 2000 Course MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" where will the course be held? -----Original Message----- From: Yoon, Steven S [mailto:say7@CDC.GOV] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 10:41 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Announcement - Epi Info 2000 Course TITLE: Developing Public Health Software Applications with Epi Info 2000 WHEN: May 15 - 18, 2001 DESCRIPTION: This is a four-day course providing hands-on experience with Epi Info 2000, programming Epi Info 2000 software at the intermediate to advanced level, and using Epi Info 2000 to develop public health data systems. WHO SHOULD ATTEND: The course is for practitioner of epidemiology and computing, with intermediate to advanced skills in computing, who wish to develop software applications in Epi Info 2000 for Windows 95, 98, NT, and 2000. DEADLINE: April 6, 2001 COSTS: $350 includes course fee, computer laboratory use, Epi Info 2000 software and manual and other course materials. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: Pia Valeriano, MBA 1518 Clifton Rd, NE Room 746 Atlanta, GA 30322 USA Phone: 404-727-3485 FAX: 404-727-4590 email: pvaleri@sph.emory.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:54:02 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Mikanatha, Nkuchia" Subject: Re: Request for assistance in developing a FAQ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [EPI-INFO] Request for assistance in developing a = FAQ

Sure, I came up with the idea so I will = assist.

Nkuchia

Nkuchia M. M'ikanatha, DrPH, MPH
Communicable Disease Surveillance = Epidemiologist
Division of Communicable Diseases
Bureau of Epidemiology
Pennsylvania Department of Health
Health and Welfare Building
P.O. Box 90
Harrisburg, PA 17108
Phone: (717) 787 3350 Fax: (717) 722 6975
Email: nmikanatha@state.pa.us <mailto:nmikanatha@state.pa.us= >

"William Farr had abiding faith that natural = laws govern the occurrence of a disease, that laws can be discovered by = epidemiologic inquiry and that when discovered, the cause of epidemic = admit to a great extent of remedy." Alexander D. = Langmuir.

-----Original Message-----
From: Yoon, Steven S [mailto:say7@CDC.GOV]
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 10:46 AM
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: [EPI-INFO] Request for assistance in = developing a FAQ

Dear Colleagues:

The Epi Info Development Team is in the process of = developing a FAQ for Epi
Info. Several people have volunteered on the list to = assist in the
development of a FAQ. I would like to solicit their = assistance. Please
contact me at syoon@cdc.gov if you want to be a part = of this process.
Thanks.

Steven Yoon, ScD, MPH
Deputy
Epi Info Development Team
syoon@cdc.gov
770-488-8490

========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:03:50 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: EPI Info Helpdesk Subject: Re: Announcement - Epi Info 2000 Course MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The course will be held in Rollins School of Public Hlth at Emory Univ., 1518 Clifton Rd. NE, Atlanta, GA 30322 Epi Info Technical Support Centers for Disease Control Epidemiology Program Office 4770 Buford Highway MS/K74 Atlanta, GA 30341 Phone: (770) 488-8440 Fax: (770) 488-8456 Email: epiinfo@cdc.gov -----Original Message----- From: Baker, Stephen [mailto:Stephen.Baker@UMASSMED.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 10:47 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Announcement - Epi Info 2000 Course where will the course be held? -----Original Message----- From: Yoon, Steven S [mailto:say7@CDC.GOV] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 10:41 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Announcement - Epi Info 2000 Course TITLE: Developing Public Health Software Applications with Epi Info 2000 WHEN: May 15 - 18, 2001 DESCRIPTION: This is a four-day course providing hands-on experience with Epi Info 2000, programming Epi Info 2000 software at the intermediate to advanced level, and using Epi Info 2000 to develop public health data systems. WHO SHOULD ATTEND: The course is for practitioner of epidemiology and computing, with intermediate to advanced skills in computing, who wish to develop software applications in Epi Info 2000 for Windows 95, 98, NT, and 2000. DEADLINE: April 6, 2001 COSTS: $350 includes course fee, computer laboratory use, Epi Info 2000 software and manual and other course materials. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: Pia Valeriano, MBA 1518 Clifton Rd, NE Room 746 Atlanta, GA 30322 USA Phone: 404-727-3485 FAX: 404-727-4590 email: pvaleri@sph.emory.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:15:03 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Giles Crane Subject: Re: Request for assistance in developing a FAQ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Would be glad to contribute to FAQ for EPI-INFO 6.04D. Giles Crane, M.Phil., MPH Research Scientist & Statistician 609 292-8012, -5666 glc@doh.state.nj.us ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:40:43 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Marc Strassburg Subject: Future of EpiInfo 2000 - A Positive Experience Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html

Greetings:

I see there is much discussion regarding the 'Future'. Regardless of the ultimate outcome of this debate, both the County of Los Angeles and the State of California are moving forward in their use of Epi2000.

Last week The Family Health Outcomes Project, which is a collaborative project of the California Department of Health Services and the University of California, San Francisco, held 1-day training sessions (about 18 persons per day) on using EpiInfo 2000 for over 50 users from 35 different California counties. About 1/3 of the users had previous EpiInfo Dos experience. The aim of the training was to provide local counties with the tools to Import, Analyze, run Reports, Graphs, and Maps using birth data. (This is particularly targeted to the smaller counties Maternal and Child Health Programs who may not have SAS or SPSS capabilities readily available). From a preliminary review of course evaluations and comments both the Product and Training session were clearly a success.

Having assisted both the EpiInfo DOS training (4 years ago) and now at the Windows training sessions, I can say with that clearly the current training session was much easier both for the users (as well as the trainers).

Those interested in downloading a copy of the application which was used for the this training can do so at:

http://www.ucsf.edu/fhop/fhopaps.html#SOFTWARE

Two files will be in the zip file for EpiBC 2000. One is the Install.bat, the default for this is the C drive, if you wish to add another drive letter, do so after install.bat D:

The install adds a new Directory called Births under the Epi2000 Directory. All files (mostly pgms, jpgs, html, txt, docs, etc) are copied into the Births subdirectory. The only files which the install program copies outside of the Births subdirectory are several Bat files to the root (shortcuts to start the Births.mnu), and a new copy of the Epi2000.MNU into the Epi2000 Directory. This MNU copy basically adds a new button to your Epi2000 MNU --one for the Births application. If you do not wish to have your old Epi2000 MNU copied over just remark out that line in the Install.bat.

Best

Marc Strassburg

Los Angeles Calif.

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========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:37:00 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Dang, Kim" Subject: Re: Future of EpiInfo 2000 - A Positive Experience Comments: To: drstrassburg@HOTMAIL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Dear Marc, I would like to ask when are you going to have a next training for EPI2000 in San Francisco or Bay area (CA, USA) and how to apply to get a training! Thank you very much! Kim Dang >>> Marc Strassburg 03/20 1:40 PM >>> Greetings: I see there is much discussion regarding the 'Future'. Regardless of the ultimate outcome of this debate, both the County of Los Angeles and the State of California are moving forward in their use of Epi2000. Last week The Family Health Outcomes Project, which is a collaborative project of the California Department of Health Services and the University of California, San Francisco, held 1-day training sessions (about 18 persons per day) on using EpiInfo 2000 for over 50 users from 35 different California counties. About 1/3 of the users had previous EpiInfo Dos experience. The aim of the training was to provide local counties with the tools to Import, Analyze, run Reports, Graphs, and Maps using birth data. (This is particularly targeted to the smaller counties Maternal and Child Health Programs who may not have SAS or SPSS capabilities readily available). From a preliminary review of course evaluations and comments both the Product and Training session were clearly a success. Having assisted both the EpiInfo DOS training (4 years ago) and now at the Windows training sessions, I can say with that clearly the current training session was much easier both for the users (as well as the trainers). Those interested in downloading a copy of the application which was used for the this training can do so at: http://www.ucsf.edu/fhop/fhopaps.html#SOFTWARE Two files will be in the zip file for EpiBC 2000. One is the Install.bat, the default for this is the C drive, if you wish to add another drive letter, do so after install.bat D: The install adds a new Directory called Births under the Epi2000 Directory. All files (mostly pgms, jpgs, html, txt, docs, etc) are copied into the Births subdirectory. The only files which the install program copies outside of the Births subdirectory are several Bat files to the root (shortcuts to start the Births.mnu), and a new copy of the Epi2000.MNU into the Epi2000 Directory. This MNU copy basically adds a new button to your Epi2000 MNU --one for the Births application. If you do not wish to have your old Epi2000 MNU copied over just remark out that line in the Install.bat. Best Marc Strassburg Los Angeles Calif. _____ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:33:03 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Robert Baer Subject: Re: Future of EpiInfo 2000 - A Positive Experience Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_ECB763BD.294832DF" This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_ECB763BD.294832DF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for sharing Marc. The link you gave us has four separate applicatio= ns on it. Did you use all fourfor the training? Given that you told us = that it installed a "births" subdirectory, was it the birth certificate = application? In the end there may be a lot to be learned from all four = regardless of which you used for training. Is there any objection to our = exloring them all? Thanks, Rob Baer _____________________________ Robert W. Baer, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Physiology Director of Educational Technology Kirksville College of Osteopathic Medicine >>> drstrassburg@HOTMAIL.COM 03/20/01 03:40PM >>> Greetings: I see there is much discussion regarding the 'Future'. Regardless of the = ultimate outcome of this debate, both the County of Los Angeles and the = State of California are moving forward in their use of Epi2000. =20 Last week The Family Health Outcomes Project, which is a collaborative = project of the California Department of Health Services and the University = of California, San Francisco, held 1-day training sessions (about 18 = persons per day) on using EpiInfo 2000 for over 50 users from 35 different = California counties. About 1/3 of the users had previous EpiInfo Dos = experience. The aim of the training was to provide local counties with = the tools to Import, Analyze, run Reports, Graphs, and Maps using birth = data. (This is particularly targeted to the smaller counties Maternal and = Child Health Programs who may not have SAS or SPSS capabilities readily = available). From a preliminary review of course evaluations and comments = both the Product and Training session were clearly a success. =20 Having assisted both the EpiInfo DOS training (4 years ago) and now at the = Windows training sessions, I can say with that clearly the current = training session was much easier both for the users (as well as the = trainers). Those interested in downloading a copy of the application which was used = for the this training can do so at: http://www.ucsf.edu/fhop/fhopaps.html#SOFTWARE Two files will be in the zip file for EpiBC 2000. One is the Install.bat, = the default for this is the C drive, if you wish to add another drive = letter, do so after install.bat D: The install adds a new Directory called Births under the Epi2000 Directory.= All files (mostly pgms, jpgs, html, txt, docs, etc) are copied into the = Births subdirectory. The only files which the install program copies = outside of the Births subdirectory are several Bat files to the root = (shortcuts to start the Births.mnu), and a new copy of the Epi2000.MNU = into the Epi2000 Directory. This MNU copy basically adds a new button to = your Epi2000 MNU --one for the Births application. If you do not wish to = have your old Epi2000 MNU copied over just remark out that line in the = Install.bat. Best Marc Strassburg Los Angeles Calif. Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --=_ECB763BD.294832DF Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks for sharing Marc. The link you gave us has four = separate=20 applications on it. Did you use all fourfor the training? = Given that=20 you told us that it installed a "births" subdirectory, was it the birth=20 certificate application? In the end there may be a lot to be learned = from=20 all four regardless of which you used for training. Is there any = objection=20 to our exloring them all?

Thanks,

Rob Baer

_____________________________
Robert W. Baer, Ph.D.
Associat= e=20 Professor of Physiology
Director of Educational Technology
Kirksville= =20 College of Osteopathic Medicine

>>> drstrassburg@HOTMAIL.CO= M=20 03/20/01 03:40PM >>>

Greetings:

I see there is much = discussion=20 regarding the 'Future'. Reg= ardless=20 of the ultimate outcome of this debate, both the County of Los = Angeles and=20 the State of California are moving forward in their use of Epi2000. = =20

Last week The Family Health = Outcomes=20 Project, which is a collaborative project of the California Department of = Health=20 Services and the University of California, San Francisco, held 1-day= =20 training sessions (about 18 persons per day) on using EpiInfo 2000 for = over 50=20 users from 35 different California counties. About 1/3 of the users had = previous=20 EpiInfo Dos experience. The aim of the training was to provide = local=20 counties with the tools to Import, Analyze, run Reports, Graphs, and Maps = using=20 birth data. (This is particularly targeted to the smaller counties = Maternal and=20 Child Health Programs who may not have SAS or SPSS capabilities readily=20 available). From a preliminary review of course evaluations = and=20 comments both the Product and Training session were clearly a=20 success.

Having assisted both the EpiInfo DOS training = (4=20 years ago) and now at the Windows training sessions, I can say with that = clearly=20 the current training session was much easier both for the users (as well = as the=20 trainers).

Those interested in downloading a copy of the = application=20 which was used for the this training can do so at:

http://www.ucsf.edu/fhop/fhopaps.html#SO= FTWARE

Two files will be in the zip = file=20 for EpiBC 2000. One is the Install.bat, the default for this is the = C=20 drive, if you wish to add another drive letter, do so after install.bat=20 D:

The install adds a new = Directory=20 called Births under the Epi2000 Directory. All files (mostly pgms, = jpgs,=20 html, txt, docs, etc) are copied into the Births subdirectory. The only = files=20 which the install program copies outside of the Births subdirectory are = several=20 Bat files to the root (shortcuts to start the Births.mnu), and a new copy = of the=20 Epi2000.MNU into the Epi2000 Directory. This MNU copy basically adds = a new=20 button to your Epi2000 MNU --one for the Births application. If you = do not=20 wish to have your old Epi2000 MNU copied over just remark out that line in = the=20 Install.bat.

Best

Marc Strassburg

Los Angeles Calif.

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--=_ECB763BD.294832DF-- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:01:23 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Marc Strassburg Subject: Re: Future of EpiInfo 2000 - A Positive Experience Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html

Rob;

Sorry about that... The one I was referring to and which we used during the training was The Birth Certificate Data Analysis & Presentation System which was developed in EpiInfo 2000. The other 3 applications are all Epi6, and feel free to download these as well.

Best

Marc Strassburg
Los Angeles

>From: Robert Baer

>Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group

>To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV

>Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Future of EpiInfo 2000 - A Positive Experience

>Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:33:03 -0600

>Thanks for sharing Marc. The link you gave us has four separate applications on it. Did you use all fourfor the training? Given that you told us that it installed a "births" subdirectory, was it the birth certificate application? In the end there may be a lot to be learned from all four regardless of which you used for training. Is there any objection to our exloring them all?

>Thanks,

>Rob Baer

>_____________________________

>Robert W. Baer, Ph.D.

>Associate Professor of Physiology

>Director of Educational Technology

>Kirksville College of Osteopathic Medicine

> >>> drstrassburg@HOTMAIL.COM 03/20/01 03:40PM >>>

>Greetings:

>I see there is much discussion regarding the 'Future'. Regardless of the ultimate outcome of this debate, both the County of Los Angeles and the State of California are moving forward in their use of Epi2000.

>Last week The Family Health Outcomes Project, which is a collaborative project of the California Department of Health Services and the University of California, San Francisco, held 1-day training sessions (about 18 persons per day) on using EpiInfo 2000 for over 50 users from 35 different California counties. About 1/3 of the users had previous EpiInfo Dos experience. The aim of the training was to provide local counties with the tools to Import, Analyze, run Reports, Graphs, and Maps using birth data. (This is particularly targeted to the smaller counties Maternal and Child Health Programs who may not have SAS or SPSS capabilities readily available). From a preliminary review of course evaluations and comments both the Product and Training session were clearly a success.

>Having assisted both the EpiInfo DOS training (4 years ago) and now at the Windows training sessions, I can say with that clearly the current training session was much easier both for the users (as well as the trainers).

>Those interested in downloading a copy of the application which was used for the this training can do so at:

>http://www.ucsf.edu/fhop/fhopaps.html#SOFTWARE

>Two files will be in the zip file for EpiBC 2000. One is the Install.bat, the default for this is the C drive, if you wish to add another drive letter, do so after install.bat D:

>The install adds a new Directory called Births under the Epi2000 Directory. All files (mostly pgms, jpgs, html, txt, docs, etc) are copied into the Births subdirectory. The only files which the install program copies outside of the Births subdirectory are several Bat files to the root (shortcuts to start the Births.mnu), and a new copy of the Epi2000.MNU into the Epi2000 Directory. This MNU copy basically adds a new button to your Epi2000 MNU --one for the Births application. If you do not wish to have your old Epi2000 MNU copied over just remark out that line in the Install.bat.

>Best

>Marc Strassburg

>Los Angeles Calif.

>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0A7C2.75419460-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:22:28 -0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Lucas Gonzalez Santa Cruz Subject: Release of source code - from the Epi Info Development Team MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, EpiInfo users and developers: * I think this discussion belongs in epi-info-devel if it exists or is created. * We're scaring some users away. * I apologise to them - please delete this message if you look for other * things in this list. Steven S Yoon writes: >A major portion of the source code for Epi Info 6 is public domain, and as >such is available to the public. We have, in the past, provided the source code to >those that have requested it. However, there are several commercial source >libraries that require licensing from their producers, and these cannot be >released. Some of these modules are no longer produced and therefore are no >longer available. We would welcome any suggestions from the user community >on how to best go about putting the source code into the user community. Correct me if I'm mistaken (I can hardly read very simple programs in C), but I see at least four problems involved - and a simplifying suggestion at the end: 1.- There are some non-releasable libraries that are linked from the EI6 releasable sources. - Is the code nicely separated so that you can release the public-domain part easily? If that were the case, then I guess (patient) programmers could use the available code to see what the "missing" routines do, and find or write the needed replace- ment, possibly asking for help in the free/open-source software world. (Does any- one want to be slashdotted (ie have their machine overloaded by interested readers? If you dare, go and post in http://slashdot.org.) - If the non-releasable libraries are sort of tangled with the rest of the code, then that would take programmers' time - possibly lots of it. I guess that would mean money, or perhaps a small-ish distributed team with a non-disclosure agreement of some sort. This would also have the advantage of actually seeing whatever docu- mentation is available for the non-usable routines, in order to find or write the needed replacement. - It might be that the non-releasable libraries are nicely separated from the public- domain code, but they are simply too many? Steven S Yoon says "several". There's no need to guess. Where are we regarding this issue? I think it's important to have a rough estimate of the size of the task - before or at the moment of requesting coding help. Maybe it's just huge? 2.- There's the problem of actually handing the source to those willing to take a look at it and work on it. You could publish it (the public domain part) in the same website where you publish the EI6 binaries. They could be mirrored in the same way, too. This is probably the smallest problem. 3.- There's, a minute later, the problem of how to manage the resulting creative chaos of contributions, patches, wish- lists and so on. Now this is probably a big issue, and would probably mean work. - Perhaps some of the EI Development Team have participated in an open-source project like those at http://www.sourceforge.net? Any in this list? - Or could someone "recruit" someone with the needed experience in this regard? If this takes time, so be it. But I think it's very important that someone takes care of selecting and integrating contributions. I don't think we want to have released code that is in fact "orphan" code - it would be almost useless. - There's the problem that the code, by now, runs only on MSDOS (or MSDOS com- patible) platforms, so perhaps this would appeal less to Linux/etc developpers, and a (big) effort should be done to make it multiplatform first? Or can it be used in a DOS windows in a Linux PC? This is important if we want to attract potentially interested people. It may be important to know what experienced people we have, or if there are other alternatives (cooperation with some computer science department?), or if it's not as difficult as it seems. 4.- Also, there's the licensing "problem". - Steven Yoon says it's "public domain". It can be re-released under a different license if wanted. - Some will prefer GPL or LGPL. This would have the advantage of letting the developers link to GPL libraries. I think the LGPL lets our code to be included in commercial programs - this would be useful if commercial programs (I'm thinking of GP practices and hospitals, for instance) would be able to include modules to export their data to EI format, or even to have EI code as a very integrated code within their applications. - It would be good to be able to have EI (much of this applies to EpiData too, of course) in hand-held devices and so on. - There are other licenses (BSD, Artistic) that could be explored. - As soon as contributions (changes to the code-base) are accepted, then licenses matter. For example, I'm not sure if the contributors need to be explicit in that they put their contribution in the public domain. - Very importantly, if you want to use "free" libraries, the licence of our code must be "compatibly free". Some consider GPL restrictive - but if there's plenty of good libraries to link to, the advantages would be larger than the limitations. - I think this should be looked at in some detail, discussed openly (more eyeballs) and possibly advice should be seeked - the Free Software Foundation, radical as it is, sounds like a place to ask. Also, more specifically related to health issues, the http://www.linuxmednews.org website. It's better to take our time and have things planned in the open if possible. The potential is very interesting and we should make the most of it. Finally - could we start slowly and do only ANALYSIS? That would be more easily managed than the whole lot, and many of us think ANALYSIS is possibly the most important piece now. Or are there smaller parts that could be surgically removed and used from other programs? REPORT, perhaps? Perhaps some brave souls can get the source from the CDC team and have a deep look at these problems? Maybe someone already has? Again, I suggest the CDC to create (or tell us if it exists) a specific list for these developement issues. I doubt these issues will be resolved with a couple of messages. Lucas === - Lucas Gonzalez Santa Cruz - - Epidemiological Surveillance - Canary Islands - Spain - ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:54:40 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: cgreen Subject: Future of Epi-Info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I think that Lucas Gonza's comment that ANALYSIS is the priority module to convert is exactly right. The Analysis module of Epi-Info 6.04 is unequalled in terms of a balance between simplicity and power - it would be a shame to lose this capacity as new and emerging operating systems render the original Analysis program unusable. A restructured Analysis Program paired with Epi-Data would likely meet 95% of the needs of most users. A restructured and more robust Report module would also be very useful, especially in setting up turn key surveillance systems. Chris Green Manitoba Health Epidemiology Unit Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:39:24 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Freund, Robert-Jean" Subject: Re: Future of Epi-Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And if Epiglue-like capacities are added to be able to develop menus = and shell 98% of present needs are covered Then we can think to links to some existing modules in Epi2K: Epimap = and survival analysis Robert J.FREUND Epidemiologiste, Professeur =20 Ecole Nationale de la Sante Publique =20 Av Prof Leon Bernard 35043 RENNES-Cedex France tel 33(0)2 99 02 28 62 fax 33(0)2 99 02 26 23 =20 email ensp: rjfreund@ensp.fr http://www.ensp.fr =20 international web mail : rfreund@voila.fr =20 =20 > -----Message d'origine----- > De: cgreen [SMTP:cgreen@WEBSPINNERS.CA] > Date: jeudi 8 mars 2001 14:55 > =C0: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Objet: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi-Info >=20 > I think that Lucas Gonza's comment that ANALYSIS is the priority = module to > convert is exactly right. The Analysis module of Epi-Info 6.04 is > unequalled in terms of a balance between simplicity and power - it = would > be a shame to lose this capacity as new and emerging operating = systems > render the original Analysis program unusable. A restructured = Analysis > Program paired with Epi-Data would likely meet 95% of the needs of = most > users. >=20 > A restructured and more robust Report module would also be very = useful, > especially in setting up turn key surveillance systems. >=20 >=20 > Chris Green > Manitoba Health Epidemiology Unit > Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:02:15 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Giles Crane Subject: Re: Future of Epi-Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii With respect to remarks about newer operating systems making ANALYSIS obsolete, I wonder if this is not a case of a self-fullfilling prophecy. If computer science is "that great", I am sure that older instructions, command modules, and so forth, will be able to be emulated, or re-created. With RAM and disk storage as well as hardware, undergoing great reductions in cost, there will be room for little MS-DOS. Some participants in the software business sometimes think that the only way to stay in business is to provide revisions that put older versions out of business. Predictions and prophecies are not always right. As one of my teachers said in a retirement speech, beware hubris. Cordially, Giles Crane, M.Phil., MPH Research Scientist & Statistician 609 292-8012, -5666 glc@doh.state.nj.us ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:46:32 +0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "azfar.siddiqi" Subject: Re: Future of Epi-Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0A853.E9C9EAD0" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A853.E9C9EAD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I totally agree with Lucas Gonza and Chris Green. The ANALYSIS module in Epi 6 is a wonderful program, and it would be a shame if it became rendered useless because a faster computer and a different operating system do not support it. There is urgent need to 'upgrade' the Epi 6. It wouldn't be a bad idea to keep the DOS based Epiinfo running in parallel to the Epi 2000, after the bugs are hammered out of the later. Azfar Siddiqi M.B.B.S, M.Sc. Department of Community Health Sciences The Aga Khan University Karachi 74800 Pakistan. E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu Official: Yes -----Original Message----- From: cgreen [SMTP:cgreen@WEBSPINNERS.CA] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 6:55 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi-Info I think that Lucas Gonza's comment that ANALYSIS is the priority module to convert is exactly right. The Analysis module of Epi-Info 6.04 is unequalled in terms of a balance between simplicity and power - it would be a shame to lose this capacity as new and emerging operating systems render the original Analysis program unusable. A restructured Analysis Program paired with Epi-Data would likely meet 95% of the needs of most users. A restructured and more robust Report module would also be very useful, especially in setting up turn key surveillance systems. Chris Green Manitoba Health Epidemiology Unit Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A853.E9C9EAD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi-Info

I totally agree with Lucas Gonza and = Chris Green. The ANALYSIS module in Epi 6 is a wonderful program, = and it would be a shame if it became rendered useless because a faster = computer and a different operating system do not support it.

There is urgent need to 'upgrade' the = Epi 6. It wouldn't be a bad idea to keep the DOS based Epiinfo = running in parallel to the Epi 2000, after the bugs are hammered out of the later.

Azfar Siddiqi M.B.B.S, M.Sc.
Department of Community Health = Sciences
The Aga Khan University
Karachi 74800
Pakistan.

E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu

Official: Yes

-----Original = Message-----
From:   cgreen = [SMTP:cgreen@WEBSPINNERS.CA]
Sent:   Thursday, March 08, 2001 6:55 PM
To:     EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject:       = [EPI-INFO] Future of = Epi-Info

I think that Lucas Gonza's comment = that ANALYSIS is the priority module to
convert is exactly right. = The Analysis module of Epi-Info 6.04 is
unequalled in terms of a balance = between simplicity and power - it would
be a shame to lose this capacity as = new and emerging operating systems
render the original Analysis program = unusable. A restructured Analysis
Program paired with Epi-Data would = likely meet 95% of the needs of most
users.

A restructured and more robust Report = module would also be very useful,
especially in setting up turn key = surveillance systems.

Chris Green
Manitoba Health Epidemiology = Unit
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A853.E9C9EAD0-- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:15:52 +0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Htunn Myint Latt Subject: Re: Future of Epi-Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0A860.64957B7E" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A860.64957B7E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Very much agreeing and welcoming the suggestion to urgent upgrade of EPI 6 DOS version as well as possible contribution and feedback. How about the EPITABLE module, which is really fantastic and can able to produce some summary statistic without raw data that hardly can be obtained from some other packages. While we are talking about the future need of Epi-info, I really appreciate and grateful for the EPI-INFO development team to make this package available in most user-friendly way. All the best to discussion group Latt HM Head, Epidemiology Unit Department of Social and Preventive Medicine Faculty of Medicine, University of Malaya Tel: +603 79595773 (D) 79594756 (O) Fax: +603 79594975 -----Original Message----- From: azfar.siddiqi [mailto:azfar.siddiqi@AKU.EDU] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:47 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi-Info I totally agree with Lucas Gonza and Chris Green. The ANALYSIS module in Epi 6 is a wonderful program, and it would be a shame if it became rendered useless because a faster computer and a different operating system do not support it. There is urgent need to 'upgrade' the Epi 6. It wouldn't be a bad idea to keep the DOS based Epiinfo running in parallel to the Epi 2000, after the bugs are hammered out of the later. Azfar Siddiqi M.B.B.S, M.Sc. Department of Community Health Sciences The Aga Khan University Karachi 74800 Pakistan. E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu Official: Yes -----Original Message----- From: cgreen [SMTP:cgreen@WEBSPINNERS.CA] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 6:55 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi-Info I think that Lucas Gonza's comment that ANALYSIS is the priority module to convert is exactly right. The Analysis module of Epi-Info 6.04 is unequalled in terms of a balance between simplicity and power - it would be a shame to lose this capacity as new and emerging operating systems render the original Analysis program unusable. A restructured Analysis Program paired with Epi-Data would likely meet 95% of the needs of most users. A restructured and more robust Report module would also be very useful, especially in setting up turn key surveillance systems. Chris Green Manitoba Health Epidemiology Unit Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A860.64957B7E Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi-Info

V= ery much agreeing and welcoming the suggestion to urgent upgrade of EPI 6 DOS version as = well as possible contribution and feedback. = How about the EPITABLE module, which is really fantastic and can able to = produce some summary statistic without raw data that hardly can be obtained from = some other packages. While we are = talking about the future need of Epi-info, I really appreciate and grateful for = the EPI-INFO development team to make this package available in most = user-friendly way.

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-----Original Message-----
From: azfar.siddiqi [mailto:azfar.siddiqi@AKU.EDU]
Sent: Friday, March 09, = 2001 12:47 PM
To: = EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] = Future of Epi-Info

I totally = agree with Lucas Gonza and Chris Green. The ANALYSIS module in Epi 6 is a = wonderful program, and it would be a shame if it became rendered useless because = a faster computer and a different operating system do not support = it.=

There is = urgent need to 'upgrade' the Epi 6. It wouldn't be a bad idea to keep the DOS = based Epiinfo running in parallel to the Epi 2000, after the bugs = are hammered out of the later. =

Azfar Siddiqi = M.B.B.S, M.Sc. =
Department of Community Health = Sciences
The Aga Khan = University
Karachi 74800
Pakistan.

E-mail:<= /font> azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu =

Official: = Yes =

=

-----Original Message-----
From:  = cgreen [SMTP:cgreen@WEBSPINNERS.CA]
Sent:  = Thursday, March 08, 2001 6:55 PM
To:  &n= bsp; EPI-INFO@LISTSE= RV.CDC.GOV
Subject: &nb= sp;      [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi-Info

I think that = Lucas Gonza's comment that ANALYSIS is the priority module = to
convert is exactly right.   = The Analysis module of Epi-Info 6.04 is
unequalled in terms of a balance between simplicity and power - it would
be a shame to lose this capacity as new = and emerging operating systems
render the original Analysis program unusable. A restructured Analysis
Program paired with Epi-Data would = likely meet 95% of the needs of most
users.

A restructured = and more robust Report module would also be very useful,
especially in setting up turn key = surveillance systems. = =

=

Chris = Green
Manitoba Health Epidemiology = Unit
Winnipeg, Manitoba, = Canada =

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A860.64957B7E-- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 05:13:44 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Esquivel Jorge Subject: Truobles during printing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello I'm a program developer under epi info 6.04c to DOS I have problems when print list more wide than 80 columns in the Epson 9 dot printer. I just set the SET PAGE = 72,137 and set the printer in condensed form, but the program appear not OK Can anybody help me? Thank you Jorge Esquivel Buenos Aires Argentina __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:26:13 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: lezin-b Subject: Re: Truobles during printing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try your set command after the command route printer route printer set page=3D Hope this help Bruno Bruno LEZIN AHU Lab. d'Informatique M=E9dicale et d'Epid=E9miologie CHR Av G Clemenceau 14033 CAEN Cedex lezin-b@chu-caen.fr > ---------- > De : Esquivel Jorge[SMTP:jorgeesqui@YAHOO.COM] > R=E9pondre =E0 : Epi Info Discussion Group > Date : vendredi 9 mars 2001 14:13 > A : EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Objet : [EPI-INFO] Truobles during printing >=20 > Hello > I'm a program developer under epi info 6.04c to DOS >=20 > I have problems when print list more wide than 80 > columns in the Epson 9 dot printer. >=20 > I just set the SET PAGE =3D 72,137 and set the printer > in condensed form, but the program appear not OK >=20 > Can anybody help me? >=20 > Thank you > Jorge Esquivel > Buenos Aires > Argentina >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ >=20 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:47:10 -0400 Reply-To: omaldona@entelchile.net Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Omar Maldonado A." Subject: Re: Truobles during printing In-Reply-To: <20010309131344.6089.qmail@web6105.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Estimado Jorge: Estos problemas los hemos tenido con muchas impresoras. La forma en que hemos resuelto esto es enviar las salidas a un archivo de texto, que luego recuperamos con algun procesador bajo windows, lo que permite controlar orientaci�n de p�gina y tama�o de letra. Para ello, en el Procesador, hay que seleccionar una fuente de ancho fijo, como Courier, para evitar que las tablas piredan su formato. La salida la hacemos mediante instrucciones de este tipo ERASE SALIDA.TXT SET PAGE= 60, 300 ROUTE SALIDA.TXT FREQ... TABLES... etc. Atte, Omar Maldonado A. Matr�n - Epidemi�logo Servicio de Salud Atacama http://www.saludatacama.cl > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Epi Info Discussion Group [mailto:EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV]En > nombre de Esquivel Jorge > Enviado el: Viernes, 09 de Marzo de 2001 09:14 > Para: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Asunto: [EPI-INFO] Truobles during printing > > > Hello > I'm a program developer under epi info 6.04c to DOS > > I have problems when print list more wide than 80 > columns in the Epson 9 dot printer. > > I just set the SET PAGE = 72,137 and set the printer > in condensed form, but the program appear not OK > > Can anybody help me? > > Thank you > Jorge Esquivel > Buenos Aires > Argentina > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:43:16 -0300 Reply-To: Gustavo Silva Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Gustavo Silva Subject: codes in more than two fields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005B_01C0A821.2AB3FDC0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C0A821.2AB3FDC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=20 I=B4ve been working in a rec file like this: Code Name Method Factor Num1 Num2 Others... User must enter Code, Num1 and Num2 . Name, Method and Factor must be = Noenter fields, and they must show a description for Code.=20 I try with codes in a rec file, but I can only handle two fields. Is = there another way to do this? Thanks Gustavo -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Bqco. Gustavo A. Silva Esp. Mbg=EDa. Cl=EDnica Lab. Central Htal. "Dr. Ram=F3n Madariaga" Posadas, Misiones, Argentina. Te. 03752447846 gsilva100@email.com ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C0A821.2AB3FDC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I=B4ve been working in a rec file = like=20 this:

Code

Name

Method

Factor

Num1

Num2

Others...

User must enter Code, Num1 and Num2 . = Name,=20 Method and Factor must be Noenter fields, and they must show a = description=20 for Code.

I try with codes in a rec file, but I = can only=20 handle two fields. Is there another way to do this?

Thanks

Gustavo

          &nbs= p; =20 Bqco. Gustavo A.=20 Silva
          &nbs= p;   =20 Esp. Mbg=EDa. Cl=EDnica
Lab. Central Htal. "Dr. Ram=F3n = Madariaga"
Posadas,=20 Misiones, Argentina. Te.=20 03752447846
         &nbs= p;  =20 gsilva100@email.com=
------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C0A821.2AB3FDC0-- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:46:31 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Lex Gibson Subject: (no subject) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know what "rec header to long " means? ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 08:20:32 +0530 Reply-To: harinder Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: harinder Subject: Re: Truobles during printing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Jorge Set the Page command after your route command erase abc.txt route abc.txt set page=350,350 Regards Dr HS Ratti, MD ratti@vsnl.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Esquivel Jorge To: Sent: 09 March, 2001 6:43 PM Subject: [EPI-INFO] Truobles during printing > Hello > I'm a program developer under epi info 6.04c to DOS > > I have problems when print list more wide than 80 > columns in the Epson 9 dot printer. > > I just set the SET PAGE = 72,137 and set the printer > in condensed form, but the program appear not OK > > Can anybody help me? > > Thank you > Jorge Esquivel > Buenos Aires > Argentina > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:14:28 +0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Mark Myatt Subject: Future of Epi-Info Comments: cc: HMLATT@MEDICINE.MED.UM.EDU.MY In-Reply-To: <683462AD7A7CD3118CB39200C11098A2E22CFE@FOM_MAIL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Htunn Myint Latt writes: > > Very much agreeing and welcoming the suggestion to urgent upgrade=20 > of EPI 6 DOS version as well as possible contribution and feedback. > =A0 How about the EPITABLE module, which is really fantastic and can=20 > able to produce some summary statistic without raw data that hardly=20 > can be obtained from some other packages.=A0 While we are talking=20 > about the future need of Epi-info, I really appreciate and grateful=20 > for the EPI-INFO development team to make this package available in=20 > most user-friendly way. > Have a look at EpiCalc 2000. It is available from: http://www.myatt.demon.co.uk Not a direct replacement but it does most of what EpiTable does and soem other stuff. Mark -- Mark Myatt ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:53:37 -0400 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Olubankole Obikoya Subject: Re: The future of epi-info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I am a beginner with Epi-Info 2000 and seem to be getting mixed up with the tutorials. I have entered a set of data I'm trying to analyze. Each respondent completed three different questionnaires, including one that has background information such as age, sex, etc. I'll appreciate if someone could help me with the following problems: 1. Do I have to enter each respondent's total score on each questionnaire? If not, how could I do so with the program? 2. Two of the questionnaires only have the only the same ID assigned to each respondent in the background info questionnaire. How do I say analyze total score on each questionnaire by age, sex, or any other info on the background questionnaire? 3. With regards to defining variables, do I need to give say total score another key and sex another key to find the relationship between them? Thanks for your help. Banki ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:45:33 -0300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Jorge Esquivel Organization: ConSuSalud Subject: Limitations of list command MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01EF_01C0A9A3.0D2B9FA0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01EF_01C0A9A3.0D2B9FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello! Does anybody know if the LIST command is limited to 15 variables?? Thank you Jorge Esquivel Buenos Aires ------=_NextPart_000_01EF_01C0A9A3.0D2B9FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello!

Does anybody know if the LIST command is limited = to 15=20 variables??

Thank you

Jorge Esquivel

Buenos Aires
------=_NextPart_000_01EF_01C0A9A3.0D2B9FA0-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 08:13:45 -0400 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Patricio C." Subject: RV: unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0A93A.06DFC720" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0A93A.06DFC720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't send me more e-mails please. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Patricio C.=20 To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 2:38 AM Subject: unsubscribe ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0A93A.06DFC720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0A93A.06DFC720-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:16:19 -0400 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Olubankole Obikoya Subject: (no subject) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I am a beginner with Epi-Info 2000 and seem to be getting mixed up with the tutorials. I have entered a set of data I'm trying to analyze. Each respondent completed three different questionnaires, including one that has background information such as age, sex, etc. I'll appreciate if someone could help me with the following problems: 1. Do I have to enter each respondent's total score on each questionnaire? If not, how could I do so with the program? 2. Two of the questionnaires only have the only the same ID assigned to each respondent in the background info questionnaire. How do I say analyze total score on each questionnaire by age, sex, or any other info on the background questionnaire? 3. With regards to defining variables, do I need to give say total score another key and sex another key to find the relationship between them? Thanks for your help. Banki ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:44:27 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: garywax Subject: reading data from excel or access MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0078_01C0AA07.7B283720" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C0AA07.7B283720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In analyze, I can not get EPI INFO 2000 to read my excel or access data. Suggestions? ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C0AA07.7B283720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In analyze, I can not get EPI INFO 2000 = to=20 read my excel or access data.

Suggestions?
------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C0AA07.7B283720-- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:20:13 +0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Josemar A. Mercado, MD, FACS" Subject: Re: reading data from excel or access In-Reply-To: <007b01c0aa39$c8e85120$34de1ecc@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0AA81.D358F720" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0AA81.D358F720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit EpiInfo 2000 can read Access 97 files but not Access 2000 files. I suggest you convert first. JAM -----Original Message----- From: Epi Info Discussion Group [mailto:EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV]On Behalf Of garywax Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 10:44 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] reading data from excel or access In analyze, I can not get EPI INFO 2000 to read my excel or access data. Suggestions? ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0AA81.D358F720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
EpiInfo 2000 can read Access 97 files but not = Access=20 2000 files. I suggest you convert first.

JAM

-----Original Message-----
From: Epi Info = Discussion Group=20 [mailto:EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV]On Behalf Of = garywax
Sent:=20 Sunday, March 11, 2001 10:44 PM
To:=20 EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: [EPI-INFO] reading data = from=20 excel or access

In analyze, I can not get EPI INFO = 2000 to=20 read my excel or access data.

Suggestions?
------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0AA81.D358F720-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:15:08 +0200 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: MATT EKRON Subject: How Tragic Comments: To: epiinfo@listserv.cdc.gov, LISTSERV@listserv.cdc.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_DB80407E.5736594A" This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_DB80407E.5736594A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline ** Reply Requested When Convenient ** Subject: HOW TRAGIC =20 'Cos we have to care!!!! If you do, please add your name to the list below when you forward this e-mail to people on your address listing. =20 P.S. Your name will only be registered if you add it to the list after you have selected the "FORWARD" option or use the cut and past option. MISTY My name is Misty I am but three, My eyes are swollen I cannot see,=20 =20 I must be stupid I must be bad, What else could have made Made my daddy so mad?=20 =20 I wish I were better I wish I weren't ugly, Then maybe my mommy Would still want to hug me.=20 =20 I can't speak at all I Can't do a wrong Or else I'm locked up All the day long.=20 =20 When I awake I'm all alone The house is dark My folks aren't home.=20 =20 When my mommy does come I'll try and be nice, So maybe I'll get just One whipping tonight.=20 =20 Don't make a sound! I just heard a car My daddy is back From Charlie's Bar.=20 =20 I hear him curse My name he calls I press myself Against the wall=20 =20 I try and hide From his evil eyes I'm so afraid now I'm starting to cry=20 =20 He finds me weeping He shouts ugly words, He says its my fault That he suffers at work. =20 He slaps me and hits me And yells at me more, I finally get free And I run for the door. =20 He's already locked it And I start to bawl, He takes me and throws me Against the hard wall. =20 I fall to the floor With my bones nearly broken, And my daddy continues With more bad words spoken.=20 =20 "I'm sorry!", I scream But its now much too late His face has been twisted Into unimaginable hate The hurt and the pain Again and again Oh please God, have mercy! Oh please let it end! =20 And he finally stops And heads for the door, While I lay there motionless Sprawled on the floor =20 My name is Misty And I am but three, Tonight my daddy Murdered me. =20 There are thousands of kids out there just like Misty. And you can help stop this problem. Please pass this poem on because as crazy as it might sound, it might just indirectly change a life. You NEVER know. =20 Child protection Unit email : Every 120 signatures. childprotectpca@saps.org.za mailto:childprotectpca@saps.org.za> mailto:childprotectpca@saps.org.za> =20 Please Sign Here If You Are Against Child Abuse: 1. MD Ekron, Ermelo, SA 2. DM Ekron, Ermelo< SA e-mail :Matt@ermagri1.Agric.za Tel: 017 - 8192076 ext 234 (w) 8195251 (h) Fax: 017- 8192971 Cell: 0828509176 snail mail: Private Bag X 9078 Ermelo 2350 --=_DB80407E.5736594A Content-Type: text/x-vcard Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="MATT EKRON.txt" FILE QUARANTINED ---------------- Antigen for Exchange removed MATT EKRON.vcf since it was found to match the =3d*.vcf file filter. --=_DB80407E.5736594A-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:34:17 +0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "azfar.siddiqi" Subject: Re: Limitations of list command MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0AAC6.D85C7B80" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0AAC6.D85C7B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" No, it isn't. Type (list *) without parentheses and your computer will run the list command for all variables in the dataset. Azfar Siddiqi M.B.B.S, M.Sc. Senior Instructor Department of Community Health Sciences The Aga Khan University P.O. Box 3500 Karachi 74800 Pakistan. Phone: 9221-48594899 9221-4930051 Ext. 4899 E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu Official: Yes Budget code: 611 -----Original Message----- From: Jorge Esquivel [SMTP:jmesquivel@CONSUSALUD.COM.AR] Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 4:46 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Limitations of list command Hello! Does anybody know if the LIST command is limited to 15 variables?? Thank you Jorge Esquivel Buenos Aires ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0AAC6.D85C7B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [EPI-INFO] Limitations of list command
No, it isn't. Type (list *) = without parentheses and your computer will run the list command for all = variables in the dataset.

Azfar Siddiqi M.B.B.S, M.Sc.
Senior Instructor
Department of Community Health = Sciences
The Aga Khan University
P.O. Box 3500
Karachi 74800
Pakistan.

Phone: 9221-48594899
        9221-4930051 Ext. 4899
E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu

Official: Yes
Budget code: 611

-----Original = Message-----
From:   Jorge Esquivel = [SMTP:jmesquivel@CONSUSALUD.COM.AR]
Sent:   Sunday, March 11, 2001 4:46 AM
To:     EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject:       = [EPI-INFO] Limitations of list = command

Hello!
Does anybody know if the LIST command is = limited to 15 variables??
=A0
Thank you
Jorge Esquivel
Buenos Aires

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0AAC6.D85C7B80-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:41:56 +0200 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: H J Gerber Subject: Draw Random Sample in EPI2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_540FCF44.4D2C78E8" This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_540FCF44.4D2C78E8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, I want to draw a random sample in EPI2000. I want to generate the random = numbers, so StatCalc won't do. Is there a way? I think you could do it in Epi 6. Thanks Hennie Gerber UNISA --=_540FCF44.4D2C78E8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: HTML
Hi All,

I want to draw a random sample in EPI2000. I want to generate the = random=20 numbers,

so StatCalc won't do. Is there a way?

I think you could do it in Epi 6.

Thanks

Hennie Gerber

UNISA
--=_540FCF44.4D2C78E8-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:52:36 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Pasquale Falasca Subject: Corsi di Epi Info 2000 a Novembre 2001 Comments: To: Rete Italiana di Epi-Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0AB47.220D5260" Messaggio in formato MIME composto da pi� parti. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0AB47.220D5260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0 Rete Italiana di = Epi Info News 12 Marzo 2001 =B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0=B0 Aggiornamenti su iniziative, corsi, applicativi e altre amenit=E0 di = Epi Info -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------- I=B0 Corso introduttivo all'uso di Epi Info 2000 e di EpiData Il gruppo italiano di epiinfo.it sta organizzando alcuni corsi di = formazione iniziale e introduttivi all'uso del software Epi Info 2000 = integrato con EpiData (basato su Epi6 sotto Windows) in collaborazione = con l'Azienda Usl di Ravenna, la Societ=E0 Italiana per la Qualit=E0 = dell'Assistenza Sanitaria il Centro Residenziale Universitario di = Bertinoro e il patrocinio dell'Istituto Superiore di Sanit=E0.=20 Sede Un singolo corso di formazione iniziale ha la durata di tre giorni, la = sede =E8 il magnifico Centro Residenziale Universitario di Bertinoro = (vicino Forl=EC). Si effettuer=E0 in una aula informatica e si = accetter=E0 un numero di iscritti pari a quello dei computer = disponibili, in modo che ciascun partecipante abbia a disposizione un = proprio personal computer per svolgere le esercitazioni pratiche.=20 Soggiorno Il Centro Residenziale Universitario di Bertinoro, collocato in una = millenaria rocca entro mura fortificate, =E8 in grado di ospitare in = modo confortevole tutti partecipanti. La quota di iscrizione al corso = comprende due pernottamenti, la prima colazione e la colazione di lavoro = dei tre giorni di corso.=20 Quota e modalit=E0 di iscrizione La quota di iscrizione =E8 fissata in lire 970.000 (500 euro) = comprensiva di due pernottamenti al Centro, colazione e pranzo per tre = giorni. Chi intende iscriversi ai corsi =E8 invitato a rispondere a = questa e-mail o per fax al n. 178-2265679, altrimenti compilare la = scheda di preiscrizione entro il 30 aprile 2001. Le modalit=E0 di = pagamento e di iscrizione definitiva verranno comunicate dopo il = ricevimento della notifica di pre-iscrizione. Alla file del corso = verranno rilasciati fattura della quota di iscrizione e attestato di = partecipazione. Docente e Programma del corso=20 Il docente sar=E0 Pasquale Falasca, gli obiettivi didattici sono = contenuti nel programma del corso. Tempi=20 Il corso di formazione iniziale dura 3 giorni, gli orari: 9.00-13.00/ = 14.30 18.30. Eventuali altri moduli di approfondimento, di una singola = giornata, saranno comunicati con i relativi argomenti prima = dell'iscrizione definitiva. I periodi indicativi sono:=20 7 - 11 novembre 2001 19 - 23 novembre 2001 Nei periodi indicati saranno inclusi uno o pi=F9 corsi e moduli di = approfondimento, in funzione del numero e del tipo di domande di = pre-iscrizione che perverranno entro il 30 aprile 2001. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- a cura di Pasquale Falasca coordinatore della diffusione di Epi Info = in Italia >;-)=20 In collaborazione con l'Istituto Superiore di Sanit=E0 mail: reteitaliana@epiinfo.it=20 sito web: http://www.epiinfo.it Per cancellarti dalla rete italiana di Epi Info invia un messaggio vuoto = a: mailto: remove@epiinfo.it ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0AB47.220D5260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Aggiornamenti su iniziative, = corsi,=20 applicativi e altre amenit=E0 di Epi Info

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I=B0 Corso=20 introduttivo all'uso di Epi Info 2000 e di=20 EpiData

Il gruppo=20 italiano di epiinfo.it sta organizzando = alcuni corsi di=20 formazione iniziale e introduttivi all'uso del = software Epi Info 2000 integrato = con=20 EpiData (basato su Epi6 sotto Windows) in collaborazione con = l'Azienda Usl di=20 Ravenna, la Societ=E0 = Italiana per la=20 Qualit=E0 dell’Assistenza Sanitaria il Centro Residenziale = Universitario di Bertinoro  = e il patrocinio = dell'Istituto Superiore di = Sanit=E0.=20

Sede

Un singolo=20 corso di formazione iniziale ha la durata di tre giorni, la sede =E8 il = magnifico=20 Centro Residenziale=20 Universitario di Bertinoro (vicino= =20 Forl=EC). Si=20 effettuer=E0 in una aula=20 informatica e si accetter=E0 un numero di iscritti pari a quello dei = computer=20 disponibili, in modo che ciascun partecipante abbia a disposizione = un=20 proprio personal computer per svolgere le esercitazioni=20 pratiche.

Soggiorno

Il Centro Residenziale = Universitario di=20 Bertinoro, collocato in una millenaria rocca entro mura fortificate, = =E8=20 in grado di ospitare = in modo=20 confortevole tutti partecipanti. La quota di iscrizione al corso = comprende=20 due pernottamenti, la prima colazione e la colazione di lavoro dei tre = giorni di=20 corso.

Quota e=20 modalit=E0 di iscrizione

La quota di=20 iscrizione =E8 fissata in lire 970.000 (500 euro) comprensiva di due = pernottamenti=20 al Centro, colazione e pranzo per tre giorni. Chi intende iscriversi ai = corsi =E8=20 invitato a rispondere a questa e-mail o per fax al n.=20 178-2265679,  altrimenti compilare=20 la scheda di preiscrizione entro il 30 aprile 2001. = Le modalit=E0 di pagamento e di iscrizione definitiva = verranno=20 comunicate dopo il ricevimento della notifica di pre-iscrizione. = Alla file=20 del corso verranno rilasciati fattura della quota di iscrizione e = attestato di=20 partecipazione.

Docente e=20 Programma del corso

Il = docente sar=E0 Pasquale = Falasca, gli=20 obiettivi didattici sono contenuti nel programma = del=20 corso.

Tempi

Il = corso di=20 formazione iniziale dura 3 giorni, gli orari: 9.00-13.00/ 14.30 18.30. = Eventuali=20 altri moduli di approfondimento, di una singola giornata, = saranno=20 comunicati con i relativi argomenti prima dell'iscrizione = definitiva. I=20 periodi indicativi sono:

7 = - 11 novembre=20 2001         19 - 23 novembre=20 2001

Nei = periodi indicati=20 saranno inclusi uno o = pi=F9 corsi e=20 moduli di approfondimento, in funzione del numero e del tipo di = domande di=20 pre-iscrizione che perverranno entro il 30 aprile=20 2001.

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a cura di Pasquale = Falasca =20 coordinatore della diffusione di Epi Info = in=20 Italia        >;-)=20

In collaborazione con l'Istituto Superiore di=20 Sanit=E0

mail: reteitaliana@epiinfo.it

sito web: http://www.epiinfo.it

Per = cancellarti dalla=20 rete italiana di Epi Info invia un messaggio vuoto = a:
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------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0AB47.220D5260-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:25:26 +0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "azfar.siddiqi" Subject: Re: Draw Random Sample in EPI2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0AB7E.02A1C8C0" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0AB7E.02A1C8C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In Epi6, you can use the Epitable program. You will find two options "Random number list" and "Random number table" under the sample menu. Azfar Siddiqi M.B.B.S, M.Sc. Department of Community Health Sciences The Aga Khan University P.O. Box 3500 Karachi 74800 Pakistan. Phone: 9221-48594899 9221-4930051 Ext. 4899 E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu Official: Yes -----Original Message----- From: H J Gerber [SMTP:Gerbehj@UNISA.AC.ZA] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 8:42 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Draw Random Sample in EPI2000 Hi All, I want to draw a random sample in EPI2000. I want to generate the random numbers, so StatCalc won't do. Is there a way? I think you could do it in Epi 6. Thanks Hennie Gerber UNISA ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0AB7E.02A1C8C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [EPI-INFO] Draw Random Sample in EPI2000
In Epi6, you can use the Epitable = program. You will find two options "Random number list" and = "Random number table" under the sample menu.

Azfar Siddiqi M.B.B.S, M.Sc.
Department of Community Health = Sciences
The Aga Khan University
P.O. Box 3500
Karachi 74800
Pakistan.

Phone: 9221-48594899
        9221-4930051 Ext. 4899
E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu

Official: Yes

-----Original = Message-----
From:   H J Gerber = [SMTP:Gerbehj@UNISA.AC.ZA]
Sent:   Monday, March 12, 2001 8:42 PM
To:     EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject:       = [EPI-INFO] Draw Random Sample in = EPI2000

Hi All,
=A0
I want to draw a random sample in EPI2000. I = want to generate the random numbers,
so StatCalc won't do. Is there a way?
I think you could do it in Epi 6.
=A0
Thanks
Hennie Gerber
UNISA

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0AB7E.02A1C8C0-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:02:35 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Freund, Robert-Jean" Subject: Re: Draw Random Sample in EPI2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In Epi6 ther is also a program already written called SSAMPLE.PGM for systematic sampling Robert J.FREUND Epidemiologiste, Professeur =20 Ecole Nationale de la Sante Publique =20 Av Prof Leon Bernard 35043 RENNES-Cedex France tel 33(0)2 99 02 28 62 fax 33(0)2 99 02 26 23 =20 email ensp: rjfreund@ensp.fr http://www.ensp.fr =20 international web mail : rfreund@voila.fr =20 =20 > -----Message d'origine----- > De: azfar.siddiqi [SMTP:azfar.siddiqi@AKU.EDU] > Date: mardi 13 mars 2001 06:25 > =C0: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Objet: Re: [EPI-INFO] Draw Random Sample in EPI2000 >=20 > In Epi6, you can use the Epitable program. You will find two options > "Random number list" and "Random number table" under the sample menu. >=20 > Azfar Siddiqi M.B.B.S, M.Sc.=20 > Department of Community Health Sciences=20 > The Aga Khan University=20 > P.O. Box 3500=20 > Karachi 74800=20 > Pakistan.=20 >=20 > Phone: 9221-48594899=20 > 9221-4930051 Ext. 4899=20 > E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu =20 >=20 > Official: Yes=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message-----=20 > From: H J Gerber [SMTP:Gerbehj@UNISA.AC.ZA]=20 > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 8:42 PM=20 > To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV=20 > Subject: [EPI-INFO] Draw Random Sample in EPI2000=20 >=20 > Hi All,=20 > =20 > I want to draw a random sample in EPI2000. I want to generate the = random > numbers,=20 > so StatCalc won't do. Is there a way?=20 > I think you could do it in Epi 6.=20 > =20 > Thanks=20 > Hennie Gerber=20 > UNISA=20 >=20 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:28:46 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Keith Woeltje Subject: Re: reading data from excel or access Comments: cc: garywax@EMAIL.MSN.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you are in analysis and click on "READ", you must select an Epi Info = 2000 "Project" (a .mdb file). If you just want to look at data in an Excel = spread sheet, this Epi Info 2000 project doesn't really have to do = anything, it just needs to be selected. You can choose "change project" = then enter "temp" or "dummy" , and then choose the format and the file you = want. An empty database will be created for the project. I suppose you = could also select an existing Epi Info 2000 project you have, and then go = look at your data. I don't do this in order to avoid any chance of = accidently corrupting the data in an existing project.=20 As the earlier post suggested, you must also be sure that Epi Info 2000 = supports your file type--it won't read Access 2000 files (but should be = able to read Excel 2000 files if you choose Excel 8.0 as the input type). Hope that helps. >K Keith F. Woeltje, MD, PhD Hospital Epidemiologist Medical College of Georgia kwoeltje@mail.mcg.edu 706-721-2224 FAX 706-721-3719 /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ >>> garywax@EMAIL.MSN.COM 03/11/01 09:54 AM >>> In analyze, I can not get EPI INFO 2000 to read my excel or access data. Suggestions? ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:21:57 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Robert Baer Subject: Re: reading data from excel or access Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As the earlier post suggested, you must also be sure that Epi Info 2000 = supports your file type--it won't read Access 2000 files (but should be = able to read Excel 2000 files if you choose Excel 8.0 as the input type). Suggestions? I will make two comments on the reading of Excel files by Epi Info 2000 = that I know to cause problems. First Epi Info 2000 can not read Excel 2.1 files =AF it only goes back to = Excel 3.0. I have encountered some of these older files on CD-ROM data = collections. The easy solution is to open and save the file in a more = recent format. Second, Epi Info 2000 can not read Excel worksheets that contain a space = character (there may be some punctuation limitations as well but I don't = remember for sure). Simple solution: rename your Excel worksheets so = that they do not include a space. Hope this helps. Rob Baer _____________________________ Robert W. Baer, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Physiology Director of Educational Technology Kirksville College of Osteopathic Medicine ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:07:49 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Richard A Phaneuf Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9f._:_Re:_[EPI-INFO]_reading_data_from_excel_or?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_access?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Has anyone tried to read an access 2000 file by way of odbc. If so where can i get the dll. richard_phaneuf@ssss.gouv.qc.ca ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:46:08 +0900 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sung-il Cho Subject: help with reading an excel 2000 file MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 RGVhciBncm91cCwNCg0KSSdtIHZlcnkgZnJ1c3RyYXRlZCB0cnlpbmcgdG8gcmVhZCBhIHZlcnkg c2ltcGxlIGV4Y2VsIDIwMDAgZmlsZS4NCkZvciBzb21lIHJlYXNvbiBJIGNvdWxkbid0IGdldCBh bnkgb2YgdGhlIGZpbGUgdHlwZXMgd29yayBvdXQsDQppbmNsdWRpbmcgZXhjZWwgOCwgNSwgNCwg MywgMiB0eXBlcywgdGFiLWRlbGltaXRlZCB0ZXh0LCBjc3YtZGVsaW1pdGVkIHRleHQgZmlsZSB0 eXBlcy4NCg0KQ291bGQgYW55b25lIHRyeSB0byByZWFkIGFuIGV4Y2VsIDIwMDAgZmlsZSBjb250 YWluaW5nIHRoZSBmb2xsb3dpbmcgZGF0YQ0KYW5kIGxldCBtZSBrbm93IHlvdSByZWFkIGl0IGZv ciBhbmFseXNpcz8NCg0KVGhhbmsgeW91IHZlcnkgbXVjaCENClN1bmdpbA0KDQoNCi0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQ0KSUQJQWdlCVNleAl3ZWlnaHQJaGVpZ2h0DQoxMDEJMTMJbQkzMAkx NjgNCjEwMgkyNgltCTYzCTE5MA0KMTAzCTQ3CW0JODAJMTYwDQoxMDQJMjUJZgkyNQkxNTANCjEw NQk0NTc2CWYJNDYJMTc2 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:10:13 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Robert Baer Subject: Re: help with reading an excel 2000 file Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This file read from Excel 2000 for me in Analysis of EI2K with no problem = at all. Have you read files before? Do you install all the patches to = EI2k? Rob Baer _____________________________ Robert W. Baer, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Physiology Director of Educational Technology Kirksville College of Osteopathic Medicine >>> scho@SNU.AC.KR 03/13/01 06:46PM >>> Dear group, I'm very frustrated trying to read a very simple excel 2000 file. For some reason I couldn't get any of the file types work out, including excel 8, 5, 4, 3, 2 types, tab-delimited text, csv-delimited = text file types. Could anyone try to read an excel 2000 file containing the following data and let me know you read it for analysis? Thank you very much! Sungil ------------------------ ID Age Sex weight height 101 13 m 30 168 102 26 m 63 190 103 47 m 80 160 104 25 f 25 150 105 4576 f 46 176 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:27:33 -0300 Reply-To: Gustavo Silva Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Gustavo Silva Subject: Re: codes in more than two fields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C0ABC9.BE8901C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C0ABC9.BE8901C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Perhaps will work with cascading codefields and duplicated rec codes = files, each with a specific .chk >... >code2 and code3.rec are copies of your original code.rec with the = fields >code/name/method/factor... You have to make different key declarations = in >each associated chk for having the right fields choosen : >... >...Question is : will Epi6 cascade automatically when your user will = enter data >in the first 'code' field or will it stop at the second 'name' field ? = I >don't know but I guess it will not. Tell the list if you try this >semi-complicated solution ! Well, codes list is long (100 - 1000), so I try this. It works, = partially. When the user enters data in "Code" field, all other options = are visible whit F9. User only must hit enter in each field, and the = correct option is automatically written for Name, Method, Factor. It = works fine, Ren=E9.=20 I=B4m still looking for something to reduce user participation, in order = to set option (in Name, Method, and Factor) that he will not be able to = interchange. So, it seems that I will have to use If-Then sentences. Jorge, Omar, = please send me a big cup of coffee! Thanks for your help Gustavo Bqco. Gustavo A. Silva Esp. Mbg=EDa. Cl=EDnica Lab. Central Htal. "Dr. Ram=F3n Madariaga" Posadas, Misiones. Te. 03752447846 gsilva100@email.com ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C0ABC9.BE8901C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

>Perhaps will work with cascading codefields and duplicated rec = codes=20 files, each with a specific .chk
>...

>code2 and code3.rec are copies of your original code.rec with = the=20 fields
>code/name/method/factor... You have to make different key=20 declarations in
>each associated chk for having the right fields = choosen=20 :
>...

>...Question is : will Epi6 cascade automatically when your user = will=20 enter data
>in the first 'code' field or will it stop at the = second =20 'name' field ? I
>don't know but I guess it will not. Tell the = list if you=20 try this
>semi-complicated solution !

Well, codes list is long (100 - 1000), so I try this. It = works,=20 partially. When the user enters data in "Code" field, all other options = are=20 visible whit F9. User only must hit enter in each field, and the correct = option=20 is automatically written for Name, Method, Factor. It works fine, = Ren=E9.

I=B4m still looking for something to reduce user participation, in = order to=20 set option (in Name, Method, and Factor) that he will not be able to=20 interchange.

So, it seems that I will have to use If-Then sentences. Jorge, = Omar, please=20 send me a big cup of coffee!

Thanks for your help

Gustavo

           = ; =20 Bqco. Gustavo A.=20 Silva
          &nbs= p;   =20 Esp. Mbg=EDa. Cl=EDnica
Lab. Central Htal. "Dr. Ram=F3n = Madariaga"
Posadas,=20 Misiones. Te.=20 03752447846
         &nbs= p;  =20 gsilva100@email.com=

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Were the fields defined in an Epi6 Qes or were they derived?

Marc

L.A.

>From: Meredith Caelli
>Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group
>To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
>Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Importing Epi6. rec to Epi2000
>Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:29:55 +1100
>
>** High Priority **
>
>Hi
>
>we have having a lot of trouble importing an Epi6 .rec file into an Epi2000 mdb.
>
>The make view works, all fields are read
>
>however: only the data for the first 200 fields is brought across, for the remaining 53 fields no data comes across, yet there is data in all the fields in Epi6
>
>has any-one else experienced this problem or have any ideas how we can get around it?
>
>Kind Regards
>
>Meredith Caelli
>Hunter Public Health Unit
>PO Box 466
>WALLSEND NSW 2287
>Telephone: 612 49 246335
>Fax: 612 49 246490

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========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:38:49 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Marc Strassburg Subject: Re: Epi Info 2000 define, assign, recode Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html

Ted;

It may be the way you are setting missing values.
The following code works OK for me in Epi2000 1.05

Best

Marc
L.A.

*AGE - MAGES - Mother's Age Group
RECODE MAGE TO MAGEGRP
0 = (.)
1-14 = "1-14"
15-17 = "15-17"
18-19 = "18-19"
20-24 = "20-24"
25-29 = "25-29"
30-34 = "30-34"
35-39 = "35-39"
40-44 = "40-44"
45-98 = "45+"
99 = (.)
ELSE = (.)
end

>From: Ted Donnelly
>Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group
>To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
>Subject: [EPI-INFO] Epi Info 2000 define, assign, recode
>Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:22:07 -0500
>
>I am an experienced EpiInfo 6 user but new to to Epi Info 2000
>
>I have brought 8000 ambulance runs from motor vehicle crashes into MS Access 97. Using Epi Info 2000 Analysis on the Access 97 table, I encounter some problems with define, assign and recode. I have included some code at the end of the message
>
>I have a numeric variable Age.
>
>Variable Age_type has the following values:
>
>0 years
>1 months
>2 days
>
>There are about 50 cases in my data set whose age is given in months or days. When I try to create a variable Age_yrs (age in years) making ages in months or days = 0, it comes out as a text variable (I want it to be numeric)
>
>I want to create age groups so that I can make cross tables with other variables.
>
>1. when I define a variable Age5gp, I cannot recode Age to Age5gp
>
> I tried to assign a value to age5gp but that became the permanent value. The Epi Info 2000 manual refers us to another manner of recoding in the How To section but I didn't find that.
>
>Thank you
>
>Ted Donnelly
>Public Health Epidemiologist
>Office of Health Statistics
>Rhode Island Dept of Health
>(401)222-5142
>TedD@doh.state.ri.us
>
>READ 'C:\MYDOCU~1\DB\TEDSCAN2.MDB':mvruns
>select age_type = 0
>means age
>select
>select age_type > 0
>tables age age_type
>select
>
>define age_yrs
> if age_type > 0 then assign age_yrs = 0
>else assign age_yrs = age
>end
>
>freq age_yrs [here no 0's come through so I know there is a problem because there are some infants in the data set]
>
>define age5gp
> recode age age5gp
> 0 - 9 = "< 10"
> 10 - 14 = "10-14"
> 15 - 19 = "15-19"
> 20 - 24 = "20-24"
> 25 - 29 = "25-29"
> 30 - 39 = "30-39"
> 40 - 49 = "40-49"
> 50 - 59 = "50-59"
> 60 - 69 = "60-69"
> 70 - 79 = "70-79"
> 80 - HIVALUE = "80 +"
> else = "missing"
>end
>
>freq age5gp [error message]

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========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:43:43 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Marc Strassburg Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info - REC VS MDB Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html
Greetings:

REC vs MDB

As a longtime Epi5 and 6 user/developer, I strongly endorse CDC's decision to move to an ODBC database which is in common use.

Here at the Los Angeles County Health Department we place a large number of databases onto our Internet or Intranet. It is easy for us to develop an MDB in Epi2000 and then place it on our server and hit it with a CGI application. (Although Access may not be as robust as 'Industrial Strength' DB's such as SQL7/2000, Oracle, Sybase, etc, ---for small web based querry applications it serves quite well.).

Best

Marc
L.A.

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========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:31:07 -0300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Jorge Esquivel Organization: ConSuSalud Subject: List more than 15 variables MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01C0ACC5.B2C58DC0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C0ACC5.B2C58DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Its impossible, in the epi6 the LIST *, or the LIST FIELD1 TO FIELD 55 command only show the first 15 variables It's independent of the set page or the set plines command That appear as limitation of the analysis program Thank you Jorge Argentina ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C0ACC5.B2C58DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Its impossible, in the epi6

the LIST *,     or the LIST = FIELD1 TO=20 FIELD 55 command

only show the first 15 variables

It's independent of the set page or the set = plines=20 command

That appear as limitation of the analysis=20 program

Thank you

Jorge

Argentina
------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C0ACC5.B2C58DC0-- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:06:57 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Kevin Sullivan Subject: Re: List more than 15 variables In-Reply-To: <003b01c0acdf$61827d00$5f461ac8@leb> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed It is a limitation of a fixed 12pt Courier font in the output window in Analysis - 80 characters across the screen. In ANALYSIS, there are vertical lines in the first and 80th column, so you can see only 78 columns of info. So, based on the width of the variable name and variable itself, 78 is the limit of what can be seen on the screen on one line. What I usually do is route the list to a file, read that file into Word, and play around with it, such as either selecting a smaller font and/or printing landscape. 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Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Freund, Robert-Jean" Subject: Re: A solution to the PIII/IV speed problem with Epi6 (was : [EPI-INFO] Problems with ENTERX ENTER modules using 800mhz +proce ssors) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for helping I'll tell the list if it works Robert Robert J.FREUND Epidemiologiste, Professeur =20 Ecole Nationale de la Sante Publique =20 Av Prof Leon Bernard 35043 RENNES-Cedex France tel 33(0)2 99 02 28 62 fax 33(0)2 99 02 26 23 =20 email ensp: rjfreund@ensp.fr http://www.ensp.fr =20 international web mail : rfreund@voila.fr =20 =20 > -----Message d'origine----- > De: R.P. GILIBERT [SMTP:gilibert@UNIV-LYON1.FR] > Date: mercredi 28 f=E9vrier 2001 19:30 > =C0: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Objet: [EPI-INFO] A solution to the PIII/IV speed problem with Epi6 > (was : [EPI-INFO] Problems with ENTERX ENTER modules using 800mhz > +processors) >=20 > In the zip attached you will find a freeware I use for running old = .com or > .exe dos programs witch give 'run time error 200' with high speed = cpu. > Never > had to try it with Epi but it should work if the problem is really of = the > speed. >=20 > The command for running Epi-Info will look like : >=20 > MOSLO.COM /20 c:\EPI\EPI6.EXE >=20 > The parameter /20 (ie % of actual cpu speed I think) can be ajusted = but in > my experience it works best. >=20 > Plz tell me if it works for your fast PC. >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Freund, Robert-Jean" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 4:45 PM > Subject: [EPI-INFO] Problems with ENTERX ENTER modules using 800mhz > +processors >=20 >=20 > > Is there a solution to make work ENTERX and ENTER on 800 mhz + > processors > > and avoid the run time error message ? > > > > > > Is this the general rule or are there some lucky people in the list = that > can > > run nicely ENTERX and ENTER at 800mhz + ?? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > Robert J.FREUND Epidemiologiste, Professeur > > Ecole Nationale de la Sante Publique > > Av Prof Leon Bernard 35043 RENNES-Cedex France > > tel 33(0)2 99 02 28 62 fax 33(0)2 99 02 26 23 > > email ensp: rjfreund@ensp.fr http://www.ensp.fr > > international web mail : rfreund@voila.fr > > > ><< Fichier: moslo132.zip>> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:58:56 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Freund, Robert-Jean" Subject: Re: Problems with ENTERX ENTER modules using 800mhz +p rocessors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No Windows 98 but the run time error is linked to the speed (800 + mz) Robert J.FREUND Epidemiologiste, Professeur =20 Ecole Nationale de la Sante Publique =20 Av Prof Leon Bernard 35043 RENNES-Cedex France tel 33(0)2 99 02 28 62 fax 33(0)2 99 02 26 23 =20 email ensp: rjfreund@ensp.fr http://www.ensp.fr =20 international web mail : rfreund@voila.fr =20 =20 > -----Message d'origine----- > De: Jamie Hockin [SMTP:Jamie_Hockin@HC-SC.GC.CA] > Date: mercredi 28 f=E9vrier 2001 20:18 > =C0: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Objet: Re: [EPI-INFO] Problems with ENTERX ENTER modules using > 800mhz +processors >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Epi6 Windows ME? > Wait a minute - most of us have been thinking that we won't be able = to run > DOS > software on WinME. The life insurance premium on Epi6 just got a lot > lower. > Jamie Hockin, MD, MSc >=20 > Director, Public Health Training and Applications, Centre for = Surveillance > Coordination > Population and Public Health Branch, Health Canada >=20 > Directeur, Formation et outils pour la sant=E9 publique, Centre de la > coordination > de la surveillance > Direction g=E9n=E9rale de la sant=E9 de la population et de la = sant=E9 publique, > Sant=E9 > Canada >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Giles Crane on 28/02/2001 10:51:18 AM >=20 > Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group = >=20 > To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > cc: (bcc: Jamie Hockin) >=20 > Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Problems with ENTERX ENTER modules using = 800mhz > +processors >=20 > << Fichier: ATT11532.txt>> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:15:33 -0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Lucas Gonzalez Santa Cruz Subject: Future of Epi Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Future of Epi Info looks interesting! I'd like to add to the discussion. >As the PC community will change over to Win ME and >its next ver in 2-3 years time Personally, I have a problem with predictions like this. Will we "change over to Win ME and its next version"? Will we use [GNU/]Linux or other "free/open source" operating systems? Will we be using something different? A mixture of the above and more? And then what? TWO ELEMENTS OF OPENNESS: Some people in the free/open source arena suggest that the main thing is to keep two things "open": - data formats, and - the source of the programs. OPEN DATA FORMATS: EI6 data format is open enough. Personally, I like "text" formats that can be processed in a "piped" way. I can even process "these", "files" with Basic ! I haven't tried awk or other scripting languages. Are binary formats a problem when porting to other operating environments? To different languages? (Open doesn't mean you can't add a layer of encryption.) What are the limitations of this .REC format? Why was the change to the EI2K data format desirable? What other "possibilities" should we take into account when thinking about data formats? Maybe the future is in XML? Could EpiInfo have plug-ins for dealing with other data formats? Could we discuss this openly? Is it any use at all? OPEN SOURCE / FREE SOFTWARE: I asked a couple of years ago if the source of EI6 could be released as "free software", perhaps under a GPL or LGPL license. Apparently, it can't be done because EpiInfo6 source code links to some closed-source libraries. How many libraries? Can they be replaced with open-source libraries? Can any one have a look at the source, possibly with a non-disclosure agreement if need be, and write or pay for "open" alternatives? (Yes, you can pay a programmer to write code that is then "free" as in "free speech". The "free" in "free software" doesn't always mean "free as in free beer".) Is this feasible and reasonable? For example, I would have liked to add a function in ANALYSIS.EXE (or in analysis.pas if it is written in Pascal) to compute the MEDIAN of a few data items. I can't program in Pascal, but I would have asked for it and maybe some people would have done it - or I might have micro-payed for it together with others. Or I would have suggested some computer science students to write that as an end-of-term paper, etc. The vision of EpiInfo-software, it's usefulness, should be kept. It may be a matter of leading the developement of software, not of doing it all yourself. Are we in time to "open" EpiData? Or does it also depend on "closed source" libraries? Or is it undesirable for other reasons that I don't yet see? PROGRAMS THAT NEED TO BE PORTED: Mark Myatt suggests that what we need for an EI7Win (/EI7Linux/EI7etc?) is mainly ANALYSIS. And REPORT is a huge part of that. I agree fully. With the new Pascal compilers I've heard there shouldn't be much problem, but I'm not an expert at all. I would expect interest and action in making things easy for recompilation for other platforms. Could we have Epi6 for Linux? (Even "just recompiled", closed-source?) I would add EpiMap for Windows (?) - with a strong emphasis in "open" (data formats and program code) as something badly needed. Perhaps an independent EpiGlue - if it can be made independent (by CDC or, if it is too much hassle and it can be done, by others?). btw: can someone point us to other software that can be used to generate the maps and graphs from our .REC files, automatically, from within a surveillance system? Any "good links" page? Maybe some other things? (I don't want to dream now of "cooperation software" which is something general; or perhaps there are some specifics to Public Health? This would be another thread altogether.) Lucas - Lucas Gonzalez - Epidemiologic Surveillance - Canary Islands - Spain - ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:06:21 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Beatrice Ducot Subject: ENTER with a PIII processor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dear all, I've a PIII 866 Mhz processor (with windows 98) and ENTER didn't work on my PC. I've installed moslo.com in the "windows\command\" directory. In the alias of epi6, I've replaced the line C:\EPI6FR\EPI6.EXE by the line moslo.com /20 C:\EPI6FR\EPI6.EXE and now I can use ENTER. Thank you very much for this program ! Beatrice ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:52:39 +0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Mark Myatt Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010228161006.007bb3b0@ciunsa.unsa.edu.ar> MIME-Version: 1.0 Enrique Finetti writes: >I use epiinfo since 1994. I'm not a epidemiologist, I work in pediatric, >neonatal and maternal hospital. We developed a system in epi5 and then >upgrade whit epi6 for the patient records. The output include hospital >statistics, administrative reports, mortality, productivity, some >epidemiological curves, financial calculation, risk calculation and so on. >It run properly and relatively fast in a LAN. >I received epi2000 enthusiastically, but after a some trial, I desisting to >follow it... >I try Epi Data, and I think that is more adequate to upgrade our job. But >yet not allow relational features, I hope the new version. Don't worry ... we will have relational data-entry soon. Mark -- Mark Myatt ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:54:37 +0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Mark Myatt Subject: Problems with ENTERX ENTER modules using 800mhz +processors In-Reply-To: <85256A01.006A000E.00@smta00.hc-sc.gc.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Jamie Hockin writes: > >Epi6 Windows ME? >Wait a minute - most of us have been thinking that we won't be able to run DOS >software on WinME. The life insurance premium on Epi6 just got a lot lower. >Jamie Hockin, MD, MSc My understanding is that the boot to MSDOS feature has been removed (it can be hacked back if you need it) but the MSDOS command prompt in a window is still there. Mark -- Mark Myatt ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:57:37 +0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Mark Myatt Subject: On future of Epi Info from Epi Info Development Te am In-Reply-To: <7A725E98757ED211A7C40000F8018372081E6323@tthsc5.ttuhsc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Rohrer, James writes: >The discussion about the Future of Epi info 2000 has been fascinating >because it reveals that different users have different priorities. For >myself, data entry is not the issue; we can't get data into the computer in >several ways. Instead, what I like is the Analysis module and Statcalc. The >people out in the field around here have Windows on their computers but they >have not invested in modern stat packages because they are novices. if I >was to suggest an 'improvement' in epi info 2000 it would be to drop the >redundant elements (data entry) and keep the Analysis, MVAWIN, and Statcalc. >Since I am used to windows programs crashing now and then, I don't have any >problem recommending and teaching Analysis to beginner analysts. For a replacement for Statalc try EpiCalc: http://www.myatt.demon.co.uk Mark -- Mark Myatt ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:01:09 +0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Mark Myatt Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info In-Reply-To: <004f01c0a230$2bf6d320$7012890a@lucas.gobiernodecanarias.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Lucas Gonzalez Santa Cruz writes: >OPEN SOURCE / FREE SOFTWARE: > >I asked a couple of years ago if the source of EI6 could be released >as "free software", perhaps under a GPL or LGPL license. >Apparently, it can't be done because EpiInfo6 source code links to >some closed-source libraries. I don't think that this is an issue. They can release the code that they have the rights to and just tell us what libraries are required. Linux (e.g.) is open-source but the common windowing bit (KDE) uses non-open source libraries. Mark -- Mark Myatt ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:49:45 -0400 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Heberto Ghezzo Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info In-Reply-To: <004f01c0a230$2bf6d320$7012890a@lucas.gobiernodecanarias.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT In all this nice discussion on the future of EpiInfo I think that everybody forgot something, there are lots of Macs around there!!. Besides many University prof or epidemiologists or biostats who work with large data sets from surveys, normally use workstations, not PC's either IBM Riscs or Suns etc. So A nice Epi program must be available in all platforms in basically the same structure. This means it must be programmed in one of the basic languages C- Fortran or the modern multiplatform ones like Python or Java. Which modules we need? a - data entry : Can ENTER/ENTERX be translated to one of the above programs and put in the public domain under GNU-GPL license. The same for EpiData? b- data analysis . I think that R is public domain, works in all platforms and can be used for all, almost, statistical analysis. Mark has a proto function that reads epi.REC files, so it can be used almost directly. c- data plotting . Also R shines here d- data reporting . Well here there are many options from an integrated word processor to a complex one that needs cut and paste. WordPad comes to mind as a nice word processor with dictionaries in 10 languages. e- very complex data handling . Instead of using Microsoft windows only software I would prefer moving towards the GNU programs or to SunOffice95 which is a ,close, clone to MSOffice95 with clones of Word, Excell, Access and is also source free. . If Epi-Info wants to have a bright future, it will have a future none the less. I think it should move into being a simple central core that integrates several different programs that are very good at what they do instead of being a huge complex 'I do everything' machine that will take ages to debug. Also the cross platform in virtually similar forms is a must. just my 5 cents . R. Heberto Ghezzo Ph.D. Meakins-Christie Labs McGill University Montreal - Canada heberto@meakins.lan.mcgill.ca ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:52:53 EST Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Dr. A. Bauer" Subject: Re: Analyze and edit GRID in EPI2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo, there were some people who had problems with their grids in Analyze. I experienced the same (variables were missing) till I READ and RELATED the tables and not the views (parent and grid). Up to now I related and analyzed one parent table and three grids at the same time and had no problems there. To change the field name and order of collums or any other parameter of a grid you have to use VISUALIZE DATA and make the changes there (with edit and update). Yours, Anke ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:45:19 -0300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Dr Tomasini Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010228161006.007bb3b0@ciunsa.unsa.edu.ar> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hola, Enrique: Seg=FAn el equipo que uses, pod=E9s trabajar con un "h=EDbrido". Yo compa= rto archivos entre Office, epi6 y Epi 2K, con bastante buen resultado. Si te interesa, seguimos en correo personal. Saludos. Mario ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:16:23 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Charity Uman Subject: Epi6 error message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi - I mentioned earlier that I'm having problemns with Epi6 Enter on twodifferent computers. I reinstalled it on the computer that was giving me a "runtime error 200 at 29E5:11BD". I'm still getting the same error. When trying to open the Enter program with Epi 6.04b, yields "runtime error 200 at 29E2:11BD". After the upgrade to 6.04c, yileds "runtime error 200 at 29E5:11BD". I haven't reinstalled it yet on the other computer. Any suggestions??? -Charity Uman ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:41:07 -0500 Reply-To: Keith Heller Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Keith Heller Organization: University of Michigan Subject: Re: ENTER with a PIII processor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MOSLO works wonderfully! I had no idea that too fast a processor could ever cause any problems! Keith **************************************************************************** Keith Heller, DDS, DrPH Phone: (734) 665-3810 (Home) Epidemiology, Dental Public Health (734) 647-2855 (Work) School of Public Health I Fax: (734) 764-3192 University of Michigan E-mail: kheller@umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI. 48109-2029 http://www.umich.edu/~kheller **************************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:35:14 -0300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Abrantes =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ara=FAjo?= Silva Filho Subject: Re: MOSLO and EpiNut In-Reply-To: <000a01c0a1b4$72390aa0$0100000a@rppc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Robert! Thank you for your indication of MOSLO! I'm trying it, and for the first time I could run EpiNut, without no=20 problens, in a Pentium III 500, 128Mb. A little modification in epi6.mnu adjusts for "automatic" start of EpiNut=20 with MOSLO. Finaly a simple solution for the long time problem to run EpiNut in a very= =20 fast machines. Thanks! Abrantes At 19:29 28/02/2001 +0100, you wrote: >In the zip attached you will find a freeware I use for running old .com or >.exe dos programs witch give 'run time error 200' with high speed cpu.= Never >had to try it with Epi but it should work if the problem is really of the >speed. > >The command for running Epi-Info will look like : > >MOSLO.COM /20 c:\EPI\EPI6.EXE > >The parameter /20 (ie % of actual cpu speed I think) can be ajusted but in >my experience it works best. > >Plz tell me if it works for your fast PC. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- Abrantes Ara=FAjo Silva Filho Mestrando em Sa=FAde P=FAblica/Epidemiologia Escola Nacional de Sa=FAde P=FAblca (ENSP/FIOCRUZ) abrantes_filho@uol.com.br abrantes@ensp.fiocruz.br +55 21 560-2209 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:32:15 -0300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Dr Tomasini Subject: Re: Problems with ENTERX ENTER modules using 800mhz +processors In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using Windows ME and (both) epi6.04 and Epi 2K, still without troubles at 350 MHZ. I think that there may be problems with speed, but no with Millenium edition and DOS programs. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 07:38:42 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Ren� Gilibert Organization: chu Lyon Subject: Re: MOSLO and EpiNut MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for you kind response=2E By the way I'm Ren=E9 not Robert! (make my e= mail more clear) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Abrantes Ara=FAjo Silva Filho" To: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] MOSLO and EpiNut Hello Robert! Thank you for your indication of MOSLO! I'm trying it, and for the first time I could run EpiNut, without no problens, in a Pentium III 500, 128Mb=2E A little modification in epi6=2Emnu adjusts for "automatic" start of EpiNut with MOSLO=2E Finaly a simple solution for the long time problem to run EpiNut in a very fast machines=2E Thanks! Abrantes At 19:29 28/02/2001 +0100, you wrote: >In the zip attached you will find a freeware I use for running old =2Ecom o= r >=2Eexe dos programs witch give 'run time error 200' with high speed cpu=2E Never >had to try it with Epi but it should work if the problem is really of the >speed=2E > >The command for running Epi-Info will look like : > >MOSLO=2ECOM /20 c:\EPI\EPI6=2EEXE > >The parameter /20 (ie % of actual cpu speed I think) can be ajusted but in >my experience it works best=2E > >Plz tell me if it works for your fast PC=2E ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Abrantes Ara=FAjo Silva Filho Mestrando em Sa=FAde P=FAblica/Epidemiologia Escola Nacional de Sa=FAde P=FAblca (ENSP/FIOCRUZ) abrantes_filho@uol=2Ecom=2Ebr abrantes@ensp=2Efiocruz=2Ebr +55 21 560-2209 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:43:40 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Freund, Robert-Jean" Subject: Re: MOSLO and EpiNut MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is what we call usually a confounding variable ...Sorry if I was = the confounder Robert Robert J.FREUND Epidemiologiste, Professeur =20 Ecole Nationale de la Sante Publique =20 Av Prof Leon Bernard 35043 RENNES-Cedex France tel 33(0)2 99 02 28 62 fax 33(0)2 99 02 26 23 =20 email ensp: rjfreund@ensp.fr http://www.ensp.fr =20 international web mail : rfreund@voila.fr =20 =20 > -----Message d'origine----- > De: Ren=E9 Gilibert [SMTP:gilibert@UNIV-LYON1.FR] > Date: vendredi 2 mars 2001 07:39 > =C0: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Objet: Re: [EPI-INFO] MOSLO and EpiNut >=20 > Thanks for you kind response. By the way I'm Ren=E9 not Robert! (make = my > email > more clear) >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Abrantes Ara=FAjo Silva Filho" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 11:35 PM > Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] MOSLO and EpiNut >=20 >=20 > Hello Robert! >=20 > Thank you for your indication of MOSLO! >=20 > I'm trying it, and for the first time I could run EpiNut, without no > problens, in a Pentium III 500, 128Mb. >=20 > A little modification in epi6.mnu adjusts for "automatic" start of = EpiNut > with MOSLO. >=20 > Finaly a simple solution for the long time problem to run EpiNut in a = very > fast machines. >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Abrantes >=20 >=20 > At 19:29 28/02/2001 +0100, you wrote: > >In the zip attached you will find a freeware I use for running old = .com > or > >.exe dos programs witch give 'run time error 200' with high speed = cpu. > Never > >had to try it with Epi but it should work if the problem is really = of the > >speed. > > > >The command for running Epi-Info will look like : > > > >MOSLO.COM /20 c:\EPI\EPI6.EXE > > > >The parameter /20 (ie % of actual cpu speed I think) can be ajusted = but > in > >my experience it works best. > > > >Plz tell me if it works for your fast PC. >=20 > = ------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > -- > ---- > Abrantes Ara=FAjo Silva Filho > Mestrando em Sa=FAde P=FAblica/Epidemiologia > Escola Nacional de Sa=FAde P=FAblca (ENSP/FIOCRUZ) > abrantes_filho@uol.com.br > abrantes@ensp.fiocruz.br > +55 21 560-2209 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:51:01 -0000 Reply-To: loukmts@multiweb.nl Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Louk Meertens Subject: Future of EPIINFO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Heemskerk 02/03/2001 To all EPI-INFO lovers and believers, In the enthousiast debate about EPIINFO's possible future I am missing this aspect: We all are dealing with data consisting of characters and digits, our data are stored as such and when we work with it we are just managing these characters and digits. It is much more efficient for this work, in my opinion, to have programs producing their output in a text-oriented screen, a so called console screen. Skipping the huge overhead load needed to make a graphical display of the results makes it faster,and better readable too. When A. DEAN conducted a survey a few years ago asking our opinion about going into a 32bit program for the succesor of ANALYSIS etc,it was natural to decide to go ahead with it.The team in ATLANTA started to try to make a GRAPHICAL program suite but this turned out to be much more complicated than foreseen. In WINDOWS though it is possible also to create consoleprograms, with text oriented output,they very much have the look of DOS programs but they really are 32bit programs.In these mousing is possible as well. A very nice example of this is: FileControl for Windows, this works very much like Norton Commander. I have no knowledge whether this can be done in VB6, it certanly can be done in Delphi and with the FreePascal32 compiler which is available now. Could the team in Atlanta consider to make an ANALYSIS.EXE in console format?Or would they be willing to release the sources as far as they can under a GNU licence so that others can try to achieve this? Yours, Louk Meertens. RED FLAMINGO ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 03:30:31 -0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Lucas Gonzalez Santa Cruz Subject: Future of EPIINFO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >It is much more efficient for this work, in my opinion, to have >programs producing their output in a text-oriented screen, a so >called console screen. >Skipping the huge overhead load needed to make a graphical >display of the results makes it faster,and better readable >too. I agree regarding typing versus "mousing". I prefer the keyboard. On the other hand, I very much liked the graphical display, in EI2K, of the 2x2 table vanilla ill. After years of 2x2 tables this looked like a most pleasant surprise! Made me wonder what other things we take for granted that we shouldn't. Maybe "going the Windows way" is not the most important innovation we can think of? (I'm not saying it's not important. It is important.) Just as an example, I've read there are "ascii cams": cameras that take pictures as rectangles of ascii characters - this may mean much simpler devices, good enough for some purposes. Of course, most ideas will be discarded - once we've had them. But if someone wants to think laterally about it, please invite! Lucas Gonzalez - nmt ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:22:59 +0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Mark Myatt Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info In-Reply-To: <200103011347.f21DlFH14638@water.cc.mcgill.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Heberto writes: >a - data entry : Can ENTER/ENTERX be translated to one of the >above programs and put in the public domain under GNU-GPL >license. The same for EpiData? Both are written in Pascal. We expect a version of Delphi for Linux to be available soon (Borland are advertising 'real soon now' in Dr Dobbs &c.). EpiData should be easy to do as it is a Delphi based program. As far as going GPL with it ... The team line, at the moment, is that we will not release source code just yet but when we close the project we will make source code available to interested parties at no cost. This may, in time, translate to release under the GPL. I am sceptical about translation to JAVA, PYTHON, RUBY, &c. As these are interpreted scripting languages and will be rather slow. The alternative is to put a Java shell around a cross platform DBMS such as MySQL. >b- data analysis . I think that R is public domain, works in all >platforms and can be used for all, almost, statistical analysis. Mark >has a proto function that reads epi.REC files, so it can be used >almost directly. I keep meaning to get cracking on porting EpiInfo style functions to R but something always seems to get in the way. I am making slow progress. What we really want for R is to add native .REC file access (i.e read the .REC file and then look in the .CHK file for labels &c.). I have contacted the R core team about this and they have yet to get back to me. >c- data plotting . Also R shines here It is the best but not the easiest. What R needs for it to be a good EpiInfo style analysis program is an equivalent of the REPORT command. >d- data reporting . Well here there are many options from an >integrated word processor to a complex one that needs cut and >paste. WordPad comes to mind as a nice word processor with >dictionaries in 10 languages. Everyone has a wordprocessor ... theer are many free ones and as you point out below StarOffice is now open source. >e- very complex data handling . Instead of using Microsoft windows >only software I would prefer moving towards the GNU programs or to >SunOffice95 which is a ,close, clone to MSOffice95 with clones of >Word, Excell, Access and is also source free. 'Clone' is the wrong word but StarOffice can do the things that Word, Excel, Access, Powerpoint, FrontPage, PhotoShop (limited), Visio (limited) can do. I have moved from Office '95 to StarOffice 5.2 and am happy to have done so. >If Epi-Info wants to have a bright future, it will have a future none the >less. I think it should move into being a simple central core that >integrates several different programs that are very good at what they >do instead of being a huge complex 'I do everything' machine that >will take ages to debug. That is what we thought with EpiData ... EpiInfo does great data-entry so let's port that to Windows ... EpiInfo is not a great data-analysis package (I love 2by2 tables, REPORT, and it's ease of use but it is pretty limited) so leave that to another package. >Also the cross platform in virtually similar forms is a must. >just my 5 cents I'm with you. Mark -- Mark Myatt ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:45:35 +0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "azfar.siddiqi" Subject: Re: MOSLO and EpiNut MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0A316.AD5BB390" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A316.AD5BB390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You are inviting people to "stratify" on you. Azfar Siddiqi M.B.B.S, M.Sc. Senior Instructor Department of Community Health Sciences The Aga Khan University P.O. Box 3500 Karachi 74800 Pakistan. Phone: 9221-48594899 9221-4930051 Ext. 4899 E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu =20 Official: Yes Budget code: 611 -----Original Message----- From: Freund, Robert-Jean [SMTP:RJFreund@ENSP.FR] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 12:44 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] MOSLO and EpiNut This is what we call usually a confounding variable ...Sorry if I was the confounder Robert Robert J.FREUND Epidemiologiste, Professeur =20 Ecole Nationale de la Sante Publique =20 Av Prof Leon Bernard 35043 RENNES-Cedex France tel 33(0)2 99 02 28 62 fax 33(0)2 99 02 26 23 =20 email ensp: rjfreund@ensp.fr http://www.ensp.fr =20 international web mail : rfreund@voila.fr =20 =20 > -----Message d'origine----- > De: Ren=E9 Gilibert [SMTP:gilibert@UNIV-LYON1.FR] > Date: vendredi 2 mars 2001 07:39 > =C0: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Objet: Re: [EPI-INFO] MOSLO and EpiNut >=20 > Thanks for you kind response. By the way I'm Ren=E9 not Robert! (make my > email > more clear) >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Abrantes Ara=FAjo Silva Filho" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 11:35 PM > Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] MOSLO and EpiNut >=20 >=20 > Hello Robert! >=20 > Thank you for your indication of MOSLO! >=20 > I'm trying it, and for the first time I could run EpiNut, without no > problens, in a Pentium III 500, 128Mb. >=20 > A little modification in epi6.mnu adjusts for "automatic" start of EpiNut > with MOSLO. >=20 > Finaly a simple solution for the long time problem to run EpiNut in a very > fast machines. >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Abrantes >=20 >=20 > At 19:29 28/02/2001 +0100, you wrote: > >In the zip attached you will find a freeware I use for running old .com > or > >.exe dos programs witch give 'run time error 200' with high speed cpu. > Never > >had to try it with Epi but it should work if the problem is really of the > >speed. > > > >The command for running Epi-Info will look like : > > > >MOSLO.COM /20 c:\EPI\EPI6.EXE > > > >The parameter /20 (ie % of actual cpu speed I think) can be ajusted but > in > >my experience it works best. > > > >Plz tell me if it works for your fast PC. >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > -- > ---- > Abrantes Ara=FAjo Silva Filho > Mestrando em Sa=FAde P=FAblica/Epidemiologia > Escola Nacional de Sa=FAde P=FAblca (ENSP/FIOCRUZ) > abrantes_filho@uol.com.br > abrantes@ensp.fiocruz.br > +55 21 560-2209 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A316.AD5BB390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [EPI-INFO] MOSLO and EpiNut
You are inviting people to "stratify" = on you.

Azfar Siddiqi M.B.B.S, M.Sc.
Senior Instructor
Department of Community Health = Sciences
The Aga Khan University
P.O. Box 3500
Karachi 74800
Pakistan.

Phone: 9221-48594899
        9221-4930051 Ext. 4899
E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu

Official: Yes
Budget code: 611

-----Original = Message-----
From:   Freund, = Robert-Jean [SMTP:RJFreund@ENSP.FR]
Sent:   Friday, March 02, 2001 12:44 PM
To:     EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject:       = Re: [EPI-INFO] MOSLO and = EpiNut

This is what we call usually a = confounding variable ...Sorry if I was the
confounder

Robert

Robert J.FREUND Epidemiologiste, = Professeur
Ecole Nationale de la Sante = Publique          &nbs= p;           &nbs= p;
Av Prof Leon Bernard 35043 = RENNES-Cedex France
tel 33(0)2 99 02 28 62 fax = 33(0)2 99 02 26 = 23           &nbs= p;
email ensp: = rjfreund@ensp.fr   http://www.ensp.fr      =
international web mail = :      = rfreund@voila.fr         &n= bsp;

         &nb= sp;           &nb= sp;           &nb= sp;           &nb= sp;

> -----Message = d'origine-----
> De:   Ren=E9 Gilibert = [SMTP:gilibert@UNIV-LYON1.FR]
> Date: vendredi 2 mars 2001 = 07:39
> =C0: = EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
> = Objet:        Re: [EPI-INFO] MOSLO = and EpiNut
>
> Thanks for you kind response. By = the way I'm Ren=E9 not Robert! (make my
> email
> more clear)
>
> ----- Original Message = -----
> From: "Abrantes Ara=FAjo = Silva Filho" <abrantes_filho@UOL.COM.BR>
> To: = <EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV>
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 = 11:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] MOSLO = and EpiNut
>
>
> Hello Robert!
>
> Thank you for your indication of = MOSLO!
>
> I'm trying it, and for the first = time I could run EpiNut, without no
> problens, in a Pentium III 500, = 128Mb.
>
> A little modification in = epi6.mnu adjusts for "automatic" start of EpiNut
> with MOSLO.
>
> Finaly a simple solution for the = long time problem to run EpiNut in a very
> fast machines.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Abrantes
>
>
> At 19:29 28/02/2001 +0100, you = wrote:
> >In the zip attached you will = find a freeware I use for running old .com
> or
> >.exe dos programs witch give = 'run time error 200' with high speed cpu.
> Never
> >had to try it with Epi but = it should work if the problem is really of the
> >speed.
> >
> >The command for running = Epi-Info will look like :
> >
> >MOSLO.COM /20 = c:\EPI\EPI6.EXE
> >
> >The parameter /20 (ie % of = actual cpu speed I think) can be ajusted but
> in
> >my experience it works = best.
> >
> >Plz tell me if it works for = your fast PC.
>
> = ------------------------------------------------------------------------= --
> --
> ----
> Abrantes Ara=FAjo Silva = Filho
> Mestrando em Sa=FAde = P=FAblica/Epidemiologia
> Escola Nacional de Sa=FAde = P=FAblca (ENSP/FIOCRUZ)
> abrantes_filho@uol.com.br
> abrantes@ensp.fiocruz.br
> +55 21 560-2209

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A316.AD5BB390-- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:13:49 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Bud Gerstman Subject: Re: FW: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wonderful comments, Diane. EI2K seems to have missed the mark when it mistakenly thought that size no longer mattered -- size matters in both data file size and program size. Do we band together to take concerted action, or do we sit passivly while EI2K flounders? Bud Gerstman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bennett, Diane" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 2:56 PM Subject: [EPI-INFO] FW: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi Info > Robert Baer wrote: > Data connectivity may be > measured by sending .rec files as email attachments today, but in 20 years > we will be operating directly on shared databases at unimaginable bandwidths > from even the most remote corners of the earth. Development towards this > vision must start now. > > Fair enough, but until the world is on a shared server, I need to be able to > email files to be used on lousy computers in far-off countries and nearby > state health departments, receive files by email, and look at them quickly, > to make minor quick changes in Word Pad (or EPED). This has been true for > numerous projects in each of the four different medical epidemiologist's > positions, in four different centers, that I've held at CDC, and I've seen > no sign that these requirements will be less relevant in the next five > years. Epidata is a great addition since many of the people we newly train > in epidemiology are used to a Windows environment now, but I haven't yet > encountered an epi situation in my work life where 2K would be useful. I'm > willing to believe it will eventually become easier to train computer > novices in Epi2K, and that there won't be so many lumps and bumps in > analysing data, but until the files are easier to deal with, Epi2K won't be > a practical option for many (most?) CDC epidemiologists. (Perhaps, Bud, > this statement will draw more 2K enthusiasts out of their > fiber-optic-connected cubbies and into this discussion?) > > I hope that the focus group discussions apparently going on this week > include a few people who do epidemiological field work under typical field > conditions, not only in developing countries but in state and local health > departments all over the U.S. Di Bennett > > > > Diane Bennett, MD MPH > Surveillance and Epidemiology Branch, DTBE > CDC MS E-10, Atlanta GA 30333 > tel: 1-404-639-5349 > fax: 1-404-639-8959 > email: dib1@cdc.gov > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:41:48 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Kevin Sullivan Subject: Chi square calculation in a Epi Info (DOS) check file In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010301192327.026869c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Does anyone have .CHK code that will calculate a p-value from a chi-square value? I wrote one that will do Z or Chi square with 1 degree of freedom (which can use the Z routine by taking the square root of the chi square value), but not a general routine that allows for different degrees of freedom. Thanks, Kevin ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:14:01 +0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "azfar.siddiqi" Subject: Re: Chi square calculation in a Epi Info (DOS) check f ile MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0A3B9.E795DF10" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A3B9.E795DF10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Have you considered using the "Known Chisquare2 value" function under 'probability' in the Epitable program? Azfar Siddiqi M.B.B.S, M.Sc. Senior Instructor Department of Community Health Sciences The Aga Khan University P.O. Box 3500 Karachi 74800 Pakistan. Phone: 9221-48594899 9221-4930051 Ext. 4899 E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu Official: Yes Budget code: 611 -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Sullivan [SMTP:cdckms@SPH.EMORY.EDU] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 1:42 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Chi square calculation in a Epi Info (DOS) check file Does anyone have .CHK code that will calculate a p-value from a chi-square value? I wrote one that will do Z or Chi square with 1 degree of freedom (which can use the Z routine by taking the square root of the chi square value), but not a general routine that allows for different degrees of freedom. Thanks, Kevin ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A3B9.E795DF10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [EPI-INFO] Chi square calculation in a Epi Info (DOS) check = file
Have you considered using the "Known = Chisquare² value" function under 'probability' in the = Epitable program?

Azfar Siddiqi M.B.B.S, M.Sc.
Senior Instructor
Department of Community Health = Sciences
The Aga Khan University
P.O. Box 3500
Karachi 74800
Pakistan.

Phone: 9221-48594899
        9221-4930051 Ext. 4899
E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu

Official: Yes
Budget code: 611

-----Original = Message-----
From:   Kevin Sullivan = [SMTP:cdckms@SPH.EMORY.EDU]
Sent:   Saturday, March 03, 2001 1:42 AM
To:     EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject:       = [EPI-INFO] Chi square calculation in = a Epi Info (DOS) check file

Does anyone have .CHK code that will = calculate a p-value from a chi-square
value? I wrote one that will do = Z or Chi square with 1 degree of freedom
(which can use the Z routine by = taking the square root of the chi square
value), but not a general routine = that allows for different degrees of freedom.
         &nb= sp;      Thanks,
         &nb= sp;           &nb= sp; Kevin

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A3B9.E795DF10-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 06:17:38 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Bud Gerstman Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info Comments: cc: Andy Dean MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My personal reactions to Mark's relevant and insightful comments: > EpiInfo 2000 does not work. In my experience, EpiInfo 2000 works, but just barely. > To get EpiInfo 2000 to work will require a lot of time, money, and > effort. . . . To get Epi Info 2000 to work *for most users* will require a lot of time . . . > When (if) EpiInfo 2000 does work it will not be "EpiInfo" but something > completely different bearing the name "EpiInfo". . . . which might be OK in the future, but not for now . . . > EpiInfo 2000 will never be able to run on minimally specified Win 9x > machines. . . . but it might eventually run on Win2000+ machines > CDC should cease development of EpiInfo 2000 and start work on EpiInfo > v7.xx for Windows (EI7W). EI7W would be a port of EpiInfo v6.xx to the > Windows environment. . . . or CDC should devote a significant portion of its resources to the EI7W port, while maintaining EI2K developments in the background . . . > We are already well on our way to providing replacements for the ENTER, > CHECK, IMPORT, EXPORT, VALIDATE, REC2QES, and MERGE module with our > EpiData project (www.epidata.dk). Well done. > We can replace STATCALC and EPITABLE with EpiCalc 2000 > (www.myatt.demon.co.uk). EpiCalc lacks some of the exact procedures available in EpiTable (e.g., exact binomial probabilities), but it is a useful replacement, nonetheless . . . > EI7W is already nearer completion than the EpiInfo 2000 project and that > EI7W represents the best solution achievable in a reasonable time frame. Concur. > If CDC are unwilling or unable to develop EI7W then they should release > the entirety of the EpiInfo v6.xx source code under an open source > license and let the EpiInfo user community get on with the job of > producing an EpiInfo v7.xx for Windows. I would take this one step further. From my considerable distance, it seems as if the most cost-effective solution would be for CDC to provide a grant to Mark and Jens for the immediate development of EI7W. Epi Info 2000 is years, maybe decades away from functionality for most users -- it's too big, too slow, too complicated, and too buggy for routine use. The last two problems are solvable in relatively short order (months to years), given proper funding and attention. The first two problems (too big, too slow) will only work themselves outs as hardware infrastructure evolves (e.g., faster connections, bigger "floppies"), which may be years (decades?) away. In the meantime, Epi Info risks loosing its loyal and mostly nontechnical user-base. Enough said. Bud Gerstman Aptos, California ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 06:36:46 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Bud Gerstman Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert, Thank you for your comments. Clearly we should be patient, for software development does take time. However, my opinion is that Epi Info may have overshot the mark by as much as a decade. This left an unacceptable gap that, despite the belief of some, Epi6 cannot fill. That's my tuppence, anyway. Bud Gerstman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert W. Baer, Ph.D." To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 8:50 AM Subject: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi Info > Bud Gerstman commented: > ------------------------------ > I'm hoping some EI2K supporters will take some counter position to help > balance the argument. > ------------------------------ > The dynamics of "change" are such that much of the discussion about the > future of Epi Info revolves around the same issues that always spring up. > The discussion to date reminds me much about the discussion that occurred > when Microsoft first introduced the Windows 3.1 user interface. For each of > us the best time to take the plunge will differ. Don't move ahead until the > time is right for you. > > I am NOT a long time Epi Info 6 user with vast amounts of surveillance data > to port, and thousands of users to retrain. If I were, I would CERTAINLY > sound more like many on this list serve who are in that boat. However, > given that Epi Info 6 still exists, and the Epi Data Team has voluntarily > made dramatic stides at supporting a transition strategy, there is certainly > no mandate to suddently abandon your legacy surveillance system if your > cost/benefit postition is not yet ready. To those in this position, I say > carry-on. You are doing the right thing, and you owe a debt of gratitude to > Jens and Mark for carrying part of your burdon out of their own personal > committment to their own legacy projects. Give back to the Epi Info 6 > community if you are capable to pay back those who have gone before you. > > That said, I think we as a community of "freeware" users are making a huge > mistake to think what we use today is all we could ever want or need. We > must somewhere deep inside recognize that change goes on. Computing, > Epidemiological tools, and public health statistics are all evolving > sciences. One of you already pointed out the tremendous contrbution that Epi > Map in Epi Info 2000. In this world of global positioning satellites, this > one module alone will make huge contributions that were unthinkable when the > first concepts of Epi Info 6 were being developed by Andy and associates. > > Epi Info 2000 IS in its infancy. It is a mistake to kill the baby because > it does not "run" when it is 18 months old. The trade-off is growth > potential versus backwards compatibility. It would seem that an Epi Data > piece coming from the CDC would have made a more graceful transition. But > come on, why are we complaining? We have a fine group of generous people > who have given us Epi Data anyway. The CDC team is pointing us at a longer > term future. If Epi Info 6 helps you further Public Health in the world, > by all means use it. Just don't make this an us versus them fight. This > is not in your own long-term self-interest. We all stand to win by any team > (CDC or Epi Data or any of the rest of you) who has a vision of making more > powerful tools to help us do our jobs. We MUST not expect perfection from > the start; we must expect a sincere effort to move forward, and we must give > back to the effort. > > I have used Epi Info 2000 for some months now, and like many of you have > encountered the shortcomings of infancy. However, I want to go on record as > supporting the concept and strongly support the CDC team for their effort. > My guess is that any tool as well-embraced as Epi Info 6 has a lot of life > left (we don't kill our elder statesmen), and that is good. My guess is > also that 20 years from now (even in the remotest field site on earth) about > as many people will use 386 computers as use punch cards today! We will > expect some sort of database engine under our software (whether MS Jet > engine or something else). It is right to begin developing toward that > need, so that in the year 2020, potential Epi Info 2020 users can defend Epi > Info 2000 the way we defend Epi Info 6 right now. Data connectivity may be > measured by sending .rec files as email attachments today, but in 20 years > we will be operating directly on shared databases at unimaginable bandwidths > from even the most remote corners of the earth. Development towards this > vision must start now. > > Robert Baer, Ph.D. > Director of Education Technology > Kitksville College of Osteopathic Medicine > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 06:42:27 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Bud Gerstman Subject: Re: On future of Epi Info from Epi Info Development Team MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is good that the Epi2000 development team is willing to be more involved and responsive to users. Cheers, Steve! Bud Gerstman Aptos, California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yoon, Steven S" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 7:51 AM Subject: [EPI-INFO] On future of Epi Info from Epi Info Development Team > Dear colleagues, > > We appreciate the involvement of the public health community in making Epi > Info into a product that is used by many public health professionals from > around the world. Contrary to how it may appear, the Epi Info Development > Team monitors this newsgroup. We have tended to stay out of discussions in > the listserv unless they were related to specific technical issues or bugs > and get in touch with the author directly. However, perhaps we should be > more active in our participation, like the EpiData team. > > There has been a thread on the listserv dealing with the future of Epi Info. > This week, we are having a focus group with participants from around the > world in Atlanta. The subjects of discussions are Simplicity and > Integration. We hope to have some guidance in how the next version of Epi > Info should be developed with these two goals in mind. We are logging user > concerns and suggestions on the listserv and helpdesk, and they, too, will > be considered in the design process. > > The jump from Epi 6 (DOS) to Epi Info 2000 has been a large one, not without > pain and difficulty. We realize that running Epi Info 2000 may be beyond the > capabilities of many users, and we recommend that those users continue with > Epi 6 (DOS). On the other hand, Epi Info 2000 will continue to be enhanced > and debugged, and for those users that need the capabilities of Epi Info > 2000, it is a fine tool. > > We appreciate all the comments and solutions to problems that are posted on > the listserv. We are working on developing a FAQ and an "intelligent" > database for queries, and will contact some of you for assistance. Please > continue to stay active and participate in the development of what is > arguably one of the most successful public health computer software efforts > in the world. > > > Steven S. Yoon, ScD, MPH > Deputy > Epi Info Development Team > CDC > 770-488-8490 > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:34:26 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sam Subject: epi info after 6; views of a developer in the field MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been reading this thread for some time now. I've worked with Epi Info abroad a fair bit and am leading translation of EI2000 into Russian. There are a couple of axes I would like to comment on: First, though, I want to go on record as thinking the world of Andy Dean and company for their work. Apart from some notable exceptions (the EpiData group), few appreciate how difficult software is to develop, particularly for non-technical user bases. I'm imagining how I would feel if I worked like crazy for years, trying to re-invent a great program and take advantage of some of the latest Microsoft technologies and then have everyone start calling for a post-natal abortion of my product. Not great. I appreciate what the team has done, really great work that would have cost a lot more money to make in the private sector. that said, 1) there are at least two types of users of EI: developers and end-user non-technical practical epidemiologists. What's convenient for one is often inconvenient for others. The community needs to decide which is more important. In my experience, end-users bootstrapping their way into EI lose a lot of time and effort in endlessly chasing the technical peculiarities of REC/CHK, etc. When I was learning EI6 a few years back, I finally just wrote some Java code that used a relational database to build all the required flat files for EI to work. Otherwise, the architecture was just too much of a hassle to update. The move toward windows, embodied in EI2000 for now, makes it harder to use flat files to configure databases, and I think that is a problem. I would ask any developers to please keep the GUI as separate from the specifications as possible and to allow configuration externally, probably through the use of flat files or some other straightforward format. When I build SQL databases, I use specification files that are flat: I would strive to do that with EI2000/7, whatever. That is a developer speaking. 2)an advantage to EpiData is that while it provides a Windows interface it retains the flat file structure, so that my scripts and relational databases can still be used to specify EI databases. I would strive to incorporate that into the initial windows port. 3) data acquisition and analysis are distinct. I think many people find data acquisition the harder part and would support the EpiData decision to start with that aspect. Most people have access to some other analysis tool, in my experience, and to do the fancy stuff, most people just go to SAS or equivalents. The real charm of ANALYSIS.EXE is its simplicity. It does the most important analyses simply and straightforwardly. It does a messy job of updating data structures, but then again SQL isn't that great without a lot of extra coding either. 4) i think a winning long-term strategy would be development of a richer API than the current PGM approach released as libraries, initially DLLs, but ideally relatively portable libraries that could be implemented in many different ways. There are times I would kill for a bit of ANALYSIS implemented as a Java class for some server side application I'm working on. This leads me to my fifth point. 5) of all places where open source should succeed, it's in public health. it's a bunch of people who like data who are working for the common good. Few public health-oriented organizations are for profit, let alone publicly traded, eliminating some of the major obstacles to implementation of open source collaboration. There are many tools to aid open source development teams, including manuals, concurrent versioning systems, web servers, a whole community of smart, semi-deviant gen-Xers who might be interested in contributing to the public's health who could be tapped. There is a Linux bent there, but a) Linux itself is free, b) Mexico and China have begun implementation, c) linux is massively better at security, and public health data is often confidential d) Linux runs beautifully on older computers, and at the end of the day many open source projects are ported to various architectures. This would force windows development to not be tied so intimately to Windows APIs, but many developers share my view that windows is a positive nightmare that survives for business (monopoly) rather than technical reasons. 6) DOS has to go. We all know this I think, but at least internationally the major problem is that DOS was never designed to handle other languages and does so only very begrudginly. for instance, ANALYSIS consistently converts certain high-ASCII russian letters, making program output a little ridiculous. Plus I have to auto-convert everything I write from windows into DOS encoding for initial use. My users moan and complain about DOS all the time. They hate it. I can't get them to use it. I hate it too. We need an EI7. To summarize: Andy Dean and colleagues have done a great job over the years and are to be lauded for their effort. I think Epi Info AND EpiData should go open source, under the GPL (or LGPL or whatever). The GPL is designed to prevent commercial exploitation of people's work. In the immediate future, I agree with Bud that CDC should consider a cooperative agreement with EpiData development team to do a quick port of EI6 to EI7. There is a need for it now, and I would be glad to have my tax dollars spent for that (as if I have any say...). The major reason to do it out-of-house is to preserve CDC's resources for continued work on EI2000. EI2000 development should continue. I think Bud's estimate of a decade is extreme. I would expect EI2000 to be useful in a couple of years, PARTICULARLY if it defines a data-transport format, which would allow one to dump data to say an SQL-specification and a delimited file. That would take a couple developer-weeks at the outside and would answer all this grumpiness about floppy disk capacity. I would wait for "web" versions. Frankly, I would never use EI for web applications. That's what a host of other free packages are very good at. I would much rather use PHP-SQL/RDBMS or JSP (or if you like microsoft ASP) and then dump the data to an analysis program. Others might want to, but I think that's a later application. In any case, taking a modular, library-based approach will prepare you to do that when the time comes. I don't want to offend anyone, but it might even be worthwhile bringing in a top-notch expensive software architect from industry to assist with modularity improvements. I have gone on way too long. This will be my only contribution to this thread, so feel free to amortize it over the rest of the thread. Sam Brown Harvard Medical School American International Health Alliance Vecna Technologies ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:44:43 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Betty C. Jung" Subject: Epi Forums - Message Boards for Epidemiologists Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Everybody, This is a follow-up to my initial suggestion for a message board last month. Thanks for your comments and suggestions. I have developed a series of 21 web-based message boards called "Epi Forums - Message Boards for Epidemiologists). You can post your questions (Help Me Boards), your tricks, examples, etc. (Show Me Boards), and your reports of solutions that work (Problems/Solutions and Hardware/Software Boards). Postings stay up for 6 months and can be viewed by anyone visiting the messages. You can even search through the postings! This is the best message board service I found on the Net to fit what people said they wanted to see for a message board. If you want to post something, you have to register (no big deal, easy to do, required by the company providing the space and services). I have organized the boards by software (Epi Info 6, Epi Info 2000 and EpiData). These boards should provide a structure is "self-organizing" intuitively useful (I hope) to those looking for answers and solutions. I created this structure based on wish lists posted on this listserv. Perhaps FAQs can be harvested from these postings.... I can always modify per users' suggestions. Please try them out and let me know what you think. Get to the guidelines page and message boards at: http://www.geocities.com/bettycjung/Epiforums.htm Have fun, Betty C. Jung -- Betty C. Jung eFax: (603)807-5694 http://get-me.to/betty http://www.geocities.com/bettycjung http://www.bigfoot.com/~bettycjung __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:11:06 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Andriamahenina Ramamonjisoa MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0A564.F919BCA0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0A564.F919BCA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SIGNOFF EPI-INFO ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0A564.F919BCA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0A564.F919BCA0-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:44:17 -0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Lucas Gonzalez Santa Cruz Subject: Future of EpiInfo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This thread is worthwhile precisely because: >Andy Dean and colleagues have done a great job over >the years and are to be lauded for their effort. Developers are speaking their minds in the open. From a user's point of view it looks very good - even if we can't follow or help. Maybe the EpiInfo team is considering the creation of an epi-info-devel@listserv.cdc.gov, separate from a users' list? Or perhaps is there such a list already? We can always subscribe to both. Lucas ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:32:13 +0530 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Dr. Shavinder Singh" Subject: Future of Epi info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0A74E.12FE0960" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0A74E.12FE0960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A user's viewpoint - Epi info ver 5 and 6 have been with us for a decade. We have been hoping = of an upgrade in the near future. All of us users know that Epi info = really became usable only after ver 5 onwards. We are seeing the similar = teething problems with Epi info 2000. Very few among us have jumped into = the bandwagon. This new release needs time to settle the bugs. I am not = a technical person. However being a user I have two humble suggestions-=20 1. An upgrade of Epi info 6.04 (written in turbo pascal) should be = developed in windows version. Many friends have named it EI7 for = windows. This should be developed fast. 2. Epi info 2000 can be a another software with enhanced features. This = can be developed subsequently.=20 =20 Frankly it is not convenient to use one software for data entry, another = for analysis and a third one for printing the formatted reports.=20 Andy Dean and his team did a marvelous job all these years, single = handedly. They need our support in whatever form it can be.=20 Epi info 6.04 is really doing good job on our old 386 machines. For my = field work it has lot of good features. I want this legacy to remain = alive and prosper. I request Andy Dean to let us know the current status = of development of the next upgrades. =20 Once again I extend my full support to the Epi info Developer Team at = CDC. =20 Yours Sincerely, Dr. Shavinder Singh Deptt. of Community Medicine Christian Medical College, Ludhiana. - 141008 Punjab India. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0A74E.12FE0960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A user's viewpoint -

Epi info ver 5 and 6 have been with us = for a=20 decade. We have been hoping of an upgrade in the near future. All of us = users=20 know that Epi info really became usable only after ver 5 onwards. We are = seeing=20 the similar teething problems with Epi info 2000. Very few among us have = jumped=20 into the bandwagon. This new release needs time to settle the bugs. I am = not a=20 technical person. However being a user I have two humble suggestions-=20

1. An upgrade of = Epi info=20 6.04 (written in turbo pascal) should be developed in windows version. = Many=20 friends have named it EI7 for windows. This should be developed=20 fast.

2. = Epi info=20 2000 can be a another software with enhanced features. This can be = developed=20 subsequently.

Frankly it is not convenient to use one = software=20 for data entry, another for analysis and a third one for printing the = formatted=20 reports.

Andy Dean and his team did a marvelous = job all=20 these years, single handedly. = They need our=20 support in whatever form it can be.

Epi info 6.04 is really doing good job = on our old=20 386 machines. For my field work it has lot of good features. I want this = legacy=20 to remain alive and prosper. I request Andy Dean to let us know the = current=20 status of development of the next upgrades.

Once again I extend my full support to = the Epi info=20 Developer Team at CDC.

Yours Sincerely,

Dr. Shavinder Singh

Deptt. of Community = Medicine

Christian Medical College,

Ludhiana. - 141008

Punjab

India.
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0A74E.12FE0960-- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:57:37 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Mikanatha, Nkuchia" Subject: Re: Future of Epi info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0A71F.54D9F990" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A71F.54D9F990 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Excellent email on the history of EPI Info. I am sharing this email with my coworkers. Nkuchia Nkuchia M. M'ikanatha, DrPH, MPH Communicable Disease Surveillance Epidemiologist Division of Communicable Diseases Bureau of Epdidemiology Pennsylvania Department of Health 2635 Paxton Street Harrisburg, PA 17111 Phone: (717) 787 3350 Fax (717) 722 6975 Email: mailto:nmikanatha@state.pa.us -----Original Message----- From: Dr. Shavinder Singh [mailto:shav123@SATYAM.NET.IN] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 11:02 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi info A user's viewpoint - Epi info ver 5 and 6 have been with us for a decade. We have been hoping of an upgrade in the near future. All of us users know that Epi info really became usable only after ver 5 onwards. We are seeing the similar teething problems with Epi info 2000. Very few among us have jumped into the bandwagon. This new release needs time to settle the bugs. I am not a technical person. However being a user I have two humble suggestions- 1. An upgrade of Epi info 6.04 (written in turbo pascal) should be developed in windows version. Many friends have named it EI7 for windows. This should be developed fast. 2. Epi info 2000 can be a another software with enhanced features. This can be developed subsequently. Frankly it is not convenient to use one software for data entry, another for analysis and a third one for printing the formatted reports. Andy Dean and his team did a marvelous job all these years, single handedly. They need our support in whatever form it can be. Epi info 6.04 is really doing good job on our old 386 machines. For my field work it has lot of good features. I want this legacy to remain alive and prosper. I request Andy Dean to let us know the current status of development of the next upgrades. Once again I extend my full support to the Epi info Developer Team at CDC. Yours Sincerely, Dr. Shavinder Singh Deptt. of Community Medicine Christian Medical College, Ludhiana. - 141008 Punjab India. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A71F.54D9F990 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Excellent email on the history of EPI Info. I am sharing this email with my coworkers.

Nkuchia

Nkuchia M. M'ikanatha, DrPH, MPH
Communicable Disease Surveillance Epidemiologist
Division of Communicable Diseases
Bureau of Epdidemiology
Pennsylvania Department of Health
2635 Paxton Street
Harrisburg, PA 17111
Phone: (717) 787 3350 Fax (717) 722 6975
Email: mailto:nmikanatha@state.pa.us

-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Shavinder Singh [mailto:shav123@SATYAM.NET.IN]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 11:02 AM
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi info

A user's viewpoint -

Epi info ver 5 and 6 have been with us for a decade. We have been hoping of an upgrade in the near future. All of us users know that Epi info really became usable only after ver 5 onwards. We are seeing the similar teething problems with Epi info 2000. Very few among us have jumped into the bandwagon. This new release needs time to settle the bugs. I am not a technical person. However being a user I have two humble suggestions-

1. An upgrade of Epi info 6.04 (written in turbo pascal) should be developed in windows version. Many friends have named it EI7 for windows. This should be developed fast.

2. Epi info 2000 can be a another software with enhanced features. This can be developed subsequently.

Frankly it is not convenient to use one software for data entry, another for analysis and a third one for printing the formatted reports.

Andy Dean and his team did a marvelous job all these years, single handedly. They need our support in whatever form it can be.

Epi info 6.04 is really doing good job on our old 386 machines. For my field work it has lot of good features. I want this legacy to remain alive and prosper. I request Andy Dean to let us know the current status of development of the next upgrades.

Once again I extend my full support to the Epi info Developer Team at CDC.

Yours Sincerely,

Dr. Shavinder Singh

Deptt. of Community Medicine

Christian Medical College,

Ludhiana. - 141008

Punjab

India.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A71F.54D9F990-- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:54:20 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Yoon, Steven S" Subject: Release of source code - from the Epi Info Development Team MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Dear colleagues; We realize that the topic of release of source code for Epi Info 6 is an important issue for many subscribers of this list. We would like to clarify some of the issues and misperceptions surrounding this topic. A major portion of the source code for Epi Info 6 is public domain, and as such is available to the public. We have, in the past, provided the source code to those that have requested it. However, there are several commercial source libraries that require licensing from their producers, and these cannot be released. Some of these modules are no longer produced and therefore are no longer available. We would welcome any suggestions from the user community on how to best go about putting the source code into the user community. Please feel free to contact either Andy Dean (AGD1@cdc.gov) or myself (syoon@cdc.gov), or to this list. Steven S. Yoon, ScD, MPH Deputy Epi Info Development Team 770-488-8490 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:01:17 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Betty C. Jung" Subject: Re: Release of source code - from the Epi Info Development � � � � � � � Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" You can always post it on the message board at: http://www.geocities.com/bettycjung/Epiforums.htm I'll be more than happy to provide space for this. Betty C. Jung Epi Info Discussion Group wrote: > > Dear colleagues; > > We realize that the topic of release of source code for Epi Info 6 is an > important issue for many subscribers of this list. We would like to clarify > some of the issues and misperceptions surrounding this topic. A major > portion of the source code for Epi Info 6 is public domain, and as such is > available to the public. We have, in the past, provided the source code to > those that have requested it. However, there are several commercial source > libraries that require licensing from their producers, and these cannot be > released. Some of these modules are no longer produced and therefore are no > longer available. We would welcome any suggestions from the user community > on how to best go about putting the source code into the user community. > Please feel free to contact either Andy Dean (AGD1@cdc.gov) or myself > (syoon@cdc.gov), or to this list. > > > Steven S. Yoon, ScD, MPH > Deputy > Epi Info Development Team > 770-488-8490 > -- Betty C. Jung eFax: (603)807-5694 http://get-me.to/betty http://www.geocities.com/bettycjung http://www.bigfoot.com/~bettycjung __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From: L-Soft list server at CDC (1.8d) [LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 11:01 AM To: Steven S Yoon Subject: File: "EPI-INFO LOG0102D" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:41:26 +0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Tong Chau Man, MD" Subject: Fw: [EPI-INFO] unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01C09CD5.2757B380" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C09CD5.2757B380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Eugene Schiff=20 To: =20 Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 12:15 AM Subject: [EPI-INFO] unsubscribe unsubscribe ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C09CD5.2757B380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C09CD5.2757B380-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:03:55 +0200 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: hillel vardi Subject: Re: Zip code search algorithm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Shalom I don't work alut with epiifo but the algorithm should look like that 1. mark the zip codes you need in the your rec file . 2. sort the your rec file by zip code and any other key needed ( may be street ) 3. save the sorted file to new rec file 4. use the process command to loop through the file . 5 when ever the process get to a maeked record use the type command to output all the data(vriable) you need for that line and the 15 after it . you can use define global to count the 15 line needed . 6. direct the output of the type command to a new file using the route file-name command . Hillel Vardi Ben-gurion U Israel J Howgate wrote: > I am trying to create a search algorithm for matching on zip code. The > search sequence needs to start at the index case zip code and compile > potential controls from the index zip code and subsequently in contiguous > zip codes until 15 potential controls are selected. Is there anyone who has > any experience with this? > > ***************************** > James Howgate, MPH > Surveillance Officer > Georgia Emerging Infections Program > 69 Butler Street > Atlanta, GA 30303 > Phone: 404-616-0403 > Fax: 404-616-5199 > ***************************** ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:45:10 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: zambart Subject: HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C09CBC.874059A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C09CBC.874059A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Sir, For the past months we have tried to unsubscribe from your list but = failed. Our email is clogged with messages from epi-info that we no = longer read. Can you please assist? Thank you Zambart project ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C09CBC.874059A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C09CBC.A4E17E80-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:04:07 -0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Lucas Gonzalez Santa Cruz Subject: frequent-questions alternatives MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, EpiInfoers! Just let me think aloud, briefly. I like this list. We might be able to build something even nicer for all. The aims here would be to have: - a way for any of us to retrieve answers to common repeated questions. - an easy way to add to that Q&A repository. - still keep the current list's benefits: a "place" that's open and dynamic. (I can't think of more goals or constraints - please add any you can think of.) (Yes, I can think of two more "wild dreams": - perhaps some would want to add "tricks" that have never been asked for. - perhaps in a "goal oriented environment" we would create routines colla- boratively, and reuse software, etc. These wild dreams should not stop us grabbing the practical fruit of the station, so to speak.) The methods suggested would be: - keep the list as is, and re-ask re-questions re-peatedly. This would mean no changes from the present situation. - keep a FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) document somewhere. This would mean that someone(s) would have to keep every single message, convert them into some Q&A simple format, and upload the updated FAQ. This takes the mind of a librarian of sorts, I guess - the kind of job most people like seeing done by others. (Possibly, the EpiInfo programmers would like to copy the current FAQ into the current epi*.zip, or link to it from the epiinfo webpages.) - use a message board (first alternative): keep the epi-info list too. I.e., have both this list and a message board. People would have to be in both places or only in one. Information from the list would also have to be trans- fered to the other. Or I understood this idea wrongly. - use a message board (second alternative): we all "move" to the message board and abandon the epiinfo list. This would mean all the hassle of "moving". The benefits should be very clear in advance. - keep the list and add some software that allows people to search the old messages. I have seen this done in at least a Linux user group in Spanish, so it can be done. If it's interesting, I can link the epi-info team, or some other group from this list, to the Linux experts. - I'm not sure if we could use some kind of wiki pages so that the load of updating the FAQ would be shared, - or perhaps a weblog of some sort (?). - any other ways? Do others have different experiences to share, even in draft form? I think it would be good to collect some more *alternatives* first, and then try to think of the *benefits, hassle and limitations* of each. What do you think? Lucas - epidemiologic surveillance - Canary Islands - Spain - ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:23:33 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Jens M. Lauritsen" Subject: Zip code search algorithm and case selection In-Reply-To: <200102220500.f1M503t29799@appleton.uni2.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Relatively Easy: Sort by zip code and calculate a variable which is 1+the value of the same variable in the previous case until that counter has the value 15. Reset that variable to 0 when you have a case. Copy the id number of the case to those who are counted up to 15. Then you have a unit consisting of the id for the cases plus the 15 controls having the same "match-id". This is easily done in stata (or some other language which can calculate across observations), something like this (do some testing before it works): sort zip gen number = _n /* the sequence of observations */ gen count = 0 if (case) replace caseset = caseset[_n-1] +1 if (case) gen caseset = 1 in 1 replace caseset = caseset[_n-1] if number > 1 gen count = count[_n-1]+1 if count[_n-1] <> 0 replace count = . if count > 15 It looks easy to find the 15 possible controls, but some problems arise: What do you do when two cases are in the same zip code. Should a control be eligible to more than one case. Is some other characteristic related to the order of the zip codes, eg. social class, income ..... kindly Jens M.Lauritsen jm.lauritsen@dadlnet.dk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:29:57 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Jens M. Lauritsen" Subject: Coding different field - partially known codes Comments: cc: Christine Roseveare In-Reply-To: <200102220500.f1M503t29799@appleton.uni2.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I made a small example which works in epidata 1.5 (to be released within the next few days, at the latest on monday 27th.). I think the principle could be adapted to epiinfo v6 also We are using the following flavours of the command "Type " in epidata, replacing type, codes and codefield commands: Type "text" will just type the text on screen Type Comment will type the text corresponding to the comment legal definition. Type comment fieldname will take the text from a defined comment legal and put the text value into the field called fieldname. Whereas Type statusbar will do as type comment except that the information is put on the statusbar. Now back to the example from 21st of febr.: Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:25:48 +1300 From: Christine Roseveare Subject: Epi6 Non code answer in coded field qes file: v1 Numeric Field ## v2 Coded field ___________________ v3 Another Numeric Field ## The idea is to let you write a text in v2 if a code explanation is not existing. Here I defined codes for values 1-4 and these are with the command "type comment v2" put into v2. But for values from 5+ one has to write the codetext in v2. chk file: V1 RANGE 1 99 COMMENT LEGAL 1 yes 2 no 3 text 4 text2 END TYPE COMMENT V2 AFTER ENTRY IF v1 > 4 THEN GOTO V2 ELSE GOTO V3 ENDIF END END Kindly Jens M.Lauritsen, jm.lauritsen@dadlnet.dk For info on EpiData, see Http://www.epidata.dk venlig hilsen Jens M.Lauritsen, Ph.d. Afdelingslaege Fyns amt. Sundhedssekretariatet, Initiativ for Ulykkesforebyggelse Oerbaekvej 100, DK5220 Odense Soe Tlf: +45 65561241 Fax: +45 6556 1205 Internet: JM.Lauritsen@dadlnet.dk, evt: Jel@sus.fyns-amt.dk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:32:14 -0400 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Olubankole Obikoya Subject: Re: Fw: HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------8210EE4E6F874D1CB11A741B" --------------8210EE4E6F874D1CB11A741B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe zambart wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: zambart > To:Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 10:45 AMSubject: HOW TO > UNSUBSCRIBE > Dear Sir, For the past months we have tried to unsubscribe from your > list but failed. Our email is clogged with messages from epi-info > that we no longer read.Can you please assist? 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Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:29:39 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Smyser, Mike" Subject: FW: details on unsubscribing to the EPI-INFO list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C09CEC.A9524A32" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09CEC.A9524A32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" For those of you who are trying to unsubscribe to the EPI-INFO listserve, this may help: You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF EPI-INFO" command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV . More details on working with the EPI-INFO list serve are included below. -----Original Message----- From: L-Soft list server at CDC (1.8d) [mailto:LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 2:27 PM Subject: You are now subscribed to the EPI-INFO list Your subscription to the EPI-INFO list (Epi Info Discussion Group) has been accepted. Please save this message for future reference, especially if this is the first time you are subscribing to an electronic mailing list. If you ever need to leave the list, you will find the necessary instructions below. Perhaps more importantly, saving a copy of this message (and of all future subscription notices from other mailing lists) in a special mail folder will give you instant access to the list of mailing lists that you are subscribed to. This may prove very useful the next time you go on vacation and need to leave the lists temporarily so as not to fill up your mailbox while you are away! You should also save the "welcome messages" from the list owners that you will occasionally receive after subscribing to a new list. To send a message to all the people currently subscribed to the list, just send mail to EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV . This is called "sending mail to the list," because you send mail to a single address and LISTSERV makes copies for all the people who have subscribed. This address (EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV ) is also called the "list address." You must never try to send any command to that address, as it would be distributed to all the people who have subscribed. All commands must be sent to the "LISTSERV address," LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV . It is very important to understand the difference between the two, but fortunately it is not complicated. The LISTSERV address is like a FAX number that connects you to a machine, whereas the list address is like a normal voice line connecting you to a person. If you make a mistake and dial the FAX number when you wanted to talk to someone on the phone, you will quickly realize that you used the wrong number and call again. No harm will have been done. If on the other hand you accidentally make your FAX call someone's voice line, the person receiving the call will be inconvenienced, especially if your FAX then re-dials every 5 minutes. The fact that most people will eventually connect the FAX machine to the voice line to allow the FAX to go through and make the calls stop does not mean that you should continue to send FAXes to the voice number. People would just get mad at you. It works pretty much the same way with mailing lists, with the difference that you are calling hundreds or thousands of people at the same time, and consequently you can expect a lot of people to get upset if you consistently send commands to the list address. You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF EPI-INFO" command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV . You can also tell LISTSERV how you want it to confirm the receipt of messages you send to the list. If you do not trust the system, send a "SET EPI-INFO REPRO" command and LISTSERV will send you a copy of your own messages, so that you can see that the message was distributed and did not get damaged on the way. After a while you may find that this is getting annoying, especially if your mail program does not tell you that the message is from you when it informs you that new mail has arrived from EPI-INFO. If you send a "SET EPI-INFO ACK NOREPRO" command, LISTSERV will mail you a short acknowledgement instead, which will look different in your mailbox directory. With most mail programs you will know immediately that this is an acknowledgement you can read later. Finally, you can turn off acknowledgements completely with "SET EPI-INFO NOACK NOREPRO". 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If you do not want your name to be visible, just issue a "SET EPI-INFO CONCEAL" command. More information on LISTSERV commands can be found in the LISTSERV reference card, which you can retrieve by sending an "INFO REFCARD" command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV . ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09CEC.A9524A32 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FW: details on unsubscribing to the EPI-INFO list
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Please save this message for = future reference, especially if this is the first time you are = subscribing to an electronic mailing list. If you ever need to = leave the list, you will find the necessary instructions = below. Perhaps more importantly, saving a = copy of this message (and of all future = subscription notices from other mailing lists) in a special = mail folder will give you instant access to the list of = mailing lists that you = are subscribed to. This may = prove very useful the next time you go on vacation = and need to leave the lists temporarily so as not = to fill up your mailbox while you are = away! You should also save the "welcome = messages" from the = list owners that you will occasionally receive after subscribing to a new list.

To send a message to all = the people currently subscribed to the list, just send = mail to EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV. This is called "sending = mail to the list," because you = send mail to a single address and = LISTSERV makes copies for all the = people who have subscribed. This = address (EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV) is also called the "list address." You = must never try to send any command to that address, as it = would be distributed to all the people who have subscribed. = All commands must be sent to the "LISTSERV = address," LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV. It is very important = to understand the difference between the = two, but fortunately it is not complicated. The = LISTSERV address is like a FAX number that connects = you to a machine, whereas the list = address is like a normal voice line connecting you to a person. If you make a mistake and = dial the FAX number when you wanted to talk to someone on the = phone, you will quickly realize that you = used the wrong number and call again. No harm will = have been done. If on the other hand you accidentally make = your FAX call someone's = voice line, the = person receiving the call will be = inconvenienced, especially if your FAX then re-dials = every 5 minutes. The fact that most people will = eventually connect the FAX machine to the voice line to = allow the FAX to go through and make the = calls stop does not mean that you should continue to = send FAXes to the voice number. People would just get mad at = you. It works pretty much the same way with mailing = lists, with the difference that you are calling hundreds = or thousands of people at the same = time, and consequently you can expect a lot of people = to get upset if you consistently send commands to the list = address.

You may leave the = list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF EPI-INFO" command to = LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV. You can also tell LISTSERV how = you want it to confirm the receipt of messages you = send to the list. If you do not trust the = system, send a "SET EPI-INFO REPRO" command and = LISTSERV will send you a copy of your own messages, so that = you can see that the = message was distributed and did not get = damaged on the way. After a while you may = find that this is getting annoying, especially = if your mail program does not tell you that the = message is from you when it informs you that new mail = has arrived from EPI-INFO. If you send a "SET = EPI-INFO ACK NOREPRO" command, = LISTSERV will mail you a short = acknowledgement instead, which will look different in = your mailbox directory. With most mail programs = you will know immediately that this is an = acknowledgement you can read later. Finally, you can turn off = acknowledgements completely = with "SET EPI-INFO NOACK = NOREPRO".

Following instructions = from the list owner, your subscription = options have been set to "SUBJECTHDR = MIME" rather than the usual = LISTSERV defaults. For more information about subscription = options, send a "QUERY EPI-INFO" command to = LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV.

Contributions sent to this list are = automatically archived. You can get a list of = the available archive files by sending = an "INDEX EPI-INFO" command to = LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV. You can then order these files = with a "GET EPI-INFO LOGxxxx" command, = or using LISTSERV's database = search facilities. Send an "INFO = DATABASE" command for more information on the latter.

This list is = available in digest form. If you wish to = receive the digested version of the = postings, just issue a SET EPI-INFO = DIGEST command.

Please note that it is presently = possible for other people to determine that you = are signed up to the list through the use = of the "REVIEW" command, = which returns   the e-mail address = and name   of all the subscribers. = If you do not want your name to be visible, = just issue a "SET EPI-INFO CONCEAL" = command.

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reference card, which you = can retrieve by sending an "INFO = REFCARD"
command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C09CEC.A9524A32-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:36:20 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Antone Medeiros Subject: unsubscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed _____________________________________________________________________________ Antone A. Medeiros, M.D. :Email: Antone_Medeiros@brown.edu Lifespan Academic Medical Center :Fax: (401) 751-2398 Brown University :Phone (Voicemail): (401) 793-4622 :Smail: The Miriam Hospital, 164 Summit Avenue,Providence, RI 02906 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:35:54 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Kevin Sullivan Subject: Re: How about a message board??? In-Reply-To: <69F0E03C.21933EAD.0092DA37@netscape.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I had always hoped that the CDC Epi Info crew would catalogue FAQs and provide example .QES/.REC/.CHK files, example .PGM files, and other example files on their website. It would seem like the Epi Info support group would also have some sort of computerized data base on FAQs. There do have an FAQ for Epi 6 and Epi 2000 on the CDC, but there are few and these appear to be rarely (if ever) updated. Because CDC group has not performed this task, I would be behind anyone willing to do this. The CDC group has a lot on their plate in fixing Epi Info 2000 bugs and many other development chores needed for the program as well as making the final DOS version of Epi Info. Having a website with work-arounds, examples, and FAQs would help the Epi Info list serve, because if the issue has been brought up before, they could just be referred to the message board. Kevin At 11:30 PM 2/21/01 -0500, you wrote: >Bud, >You have a good point. Even having 2 message boards, one for Epi 2000 and >another for Epi 6 would reduce the time I need to sort through dozens of >E-mails to find what I'm looking for. >The offer still stands. I'm sure no one has unlimited E-mail storage and >unlimited hours to browse through E-mails all day. > >If there is enough interest, I will build it (and I'm sure "someone will >come."), if not, that's fine, too. Thanks. >Betty C. Jung > > >Epi Info Discussion Group wrote: > > > > Betty, > > > > Thank you for your kind offer to start an Epi Info message board. I > > appreciate it. However, I feel that this might further divide the Epi Info > > community which, at this point, would not be a good thing. This is my > > opinion of course, and the opinions of others may differ. > > > > Bud Gerstman > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Betty Jung" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 4:35 PM > > Subject: [EPI-INFO] How about a message board??? > > > > > > > I wouldn't mind hosting a message board on my Web site for ongoing > > discussions regarding Epi Info. Everyone can post whatever question they > > have, respond to what's posted and everyone can read the responses. This > > works very well for my Jobs Postings Board. > > > > > > To see how it works, go to: > > > http://www.geocities.com/bettycjung/Phjobs.htm > > > Click on the the Go to message board. > > > > > > I can set up a special page with the message board on it, and then > you can > > check it whenever you want, post question, respond to one, or read other > > people's responses. > > > > > > Messages stay for two months and then they are deleted from the system. > > > This won't cost anyone anything. I'm just interested in facilitating > > communication. > > > > > > If you want the messages saved I can cut and paste them into textfiles > > that can be accessed with a link. > > > > > > Thanks. Betty C. Jung > > > > > > -- > > > Betty C. Jung > > > eFax: (603)807-5694 > > > http://www.bigfoot.com/~bettycjung > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at > > http://webmail.netscape.com/ > > > > > >-- >Betty C. Jung >eFax: (603)807-5694 >http://www.geocities.com/bettycjung >http://www.bigfoot.com/~bettycjung > >__________________________________________________________________ >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at >http://webmail.netscape.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:38:19 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "C. Jon Hinkle" Subject: Re: FW: details on unsubscribing to the EPI-INFO list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Mike. I was looking for a copy of this myself, but couldn't find = one. =20 I was just thinking that it would be nice of someone would run a copy of = this message on a periodic basis. >>> "Smyser, Mike" 02/22/01 10:29AM >>> For those of you who are trying to unsubscribe to the EPI-INFO listserve, this may help: You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF EPI-INFO" command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV . More details on working with the EPI-INFO list serve are included below. Please save this message for future reference, especially if this is the first time you are subscribing to an electronic mailing list. If you ever need to leave the list, you will find the necessary instructions below. Perhaps more importantly, saving a copy of this message (and of all future subscription notices from other mailing lists) in a special mail folder will give you instant access to the list of mailing lists that you are subscribed to.=20 To send a message to all the people currently subscribed to the list, just send mail to EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV=20 You must never try to send any command to that address, as it would be distributed to all the people who have subscribed.= All commands must be sent to the "LISTSERV address," LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV=20 You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF EPI-INFO" command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV < For more information about subscription options, send a "QUERY EPI-INFO" command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV=20 Contributions sent to this list are automatically archived. You can get a list of the available archive files by sending an "INDEX EPI-INFO" command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV=20 You can then order these files with a "GET EPI-INFO LOGxxxx" command, or using LISTSERV's database search facilities. Send an "INFO DATABASE" command for more information on the latter. This list is available in digest form. If you wish to receive the digested version of the postings, just issue a SET EPI-INFO DIGEST command. More information on LISTSERV commands can be found in the LISTSERV reference card, which you can retrieve by sending an "INFO REFCARD" command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV=20 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:36:52 +1100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Leanne Unicomb Subject: 'old' files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We are having problems with a .rec file that is reverting to an 'old' = file. We have recovered an earlier version of the .rec file and it has = also reverted to an 'old' file. Has anyone had this experience before? The = .old file can be opened in analysis. Leanne Unicomb Co-ordinator Sentinel Foodborne Disease Surveillance Project Hunter Public Health Unit Wallsend NSW 2287 Australia Phone: 61 2 49246477 Fax: 61 2 49246490 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:17:44 +0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "azfar.siddiqi" Subject: Re: unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C09D57.F3C20BF0" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09D57.F3C20BF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Command to remove ones name from this list is "SIGNOFF" followed by the listname, with out quotation marks or anything else in the body of the message. Good luck Azfar Siddiqi M.B.B.S, M.Sc. Senior Instructor Department of Community Health Sciences The Aga Khan University P.O. Box 3500 Karachi 74800 Pakistan. Phone: 9221-48594899 9221-4930051 Ext. 4899 E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu Official: Yes Budget code: 611 -----Original Message----- From: Andriamahenina Ramamonjisoa [SMTP:andryan@SYFED.REFER.MG] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 2:49 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] unsubscribe Help! Please. How to unsubscribe from the Epi Info discussion group? I saw could make it. I tried 5 times but I continue to receive messages from the group. Thanks. Ndrina ----- Original Message ----- From: Zen Tharani To: Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:58 PM Subject: [EPI-INFO] unsubscribe > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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Department of Community Health = Sciences
The Aga Khan University
P.O. Box 3500
Karachi 74800
Pakistan.

Phone: 9221-48594899
        9221-4930051 Ext. 4899
E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu

Official: Yes
Budget code: 611

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Help! Please.
How to unsubscribe from the Epi Info = discussion group? I saw could make it.
I tried 5 times but I continue to = receive messages from the group.
Thanks.

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C09D57.F3C20BF0-- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:26:21 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Juan Carlos Fernandez Merino Subject: Re: How about a message board??? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I prefer the option suggested by Kevin Sullivan more than a board. I use my email easily. We could compile a FAQ, and the CDC team could put it on the page. My proposal is that someone prepare a list of, say, ten topics treated in the last month each volunteer compile one and send to epiinfo webmanager. > an FAQ for Epi 6 and Epi 2000 on the CDC, but there are few and these > appear to be rarely (if ever) updated. Because CDC group has not performed > this task, I would be behind anyone willing to do this. The CDC group has > a lot on their plate in fixing Epi Info 2000 bugs and many other > development chores needed for the program as well as making the final DOS > version of Epi Info. Having a website with work-arounds, examples, and > FAQs would help the Epi Info list serve, because if the issue has been > brought up before, they could just be referred to the message board. > Kevin Salud! jucar ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:07:43 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: David Raveh Subject: Re: How about a message board??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html

Dear discussion group, allow me to suggest a voluntary action by members of the group:

I hope that the CDC team or someone else gathered all the group discussions on a server. So we should ask the CDC team to put it all (with the e mail titles) on a web site.  People who are interested will download (copy) certain quantities of e mails by topic, whenever we have some extra free hours once a month or so. Then to edit it according to an agreed FAQ style, and send it back to the CDC site. Names and addresses of people who raised the questions and those who gave the answers should be quoted, for further direct discussions.   Later the CDC people will put those FAQ into the Epi6/Epi2000 sites and manuals.       I am ready to take active part. A shared effort will succeed.

David Raveh, MD
Infectious Diseases Unit
Shaare Zedek Medical Center
Jerusalem, Israel 91031
Work fax +972 2 666 6840
Home fax +972 2 656 4448
ravehmed@hotmail.com

======================================

>From: Juan Carlos Fernandez Merino
>Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group
>To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
>Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] How about a message board???
>Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:26:21 +0100
>I prefer the option suggested by Kevin Sullivan more than a board. I use
>my email easily. We could compile a FAQ, and the CDC team could put it on the page.
>My proposal is that someone prepare a list of, say, ten topics
>treated in the last month each volunteer compile one and send to epiinfo
>webmanager.  an FAQ for Epi 6 and Epi 2000 on the CDC, but there are few and
>>these appear to be rarely (if ever) updated. Because CDC group has not
>>performed this task, I would be behind anyone willing to do this. The CDC
>>group has a lot on their plate in fixing Epi Info 2000 bugs and many other
>>development chores needed for the program as well as making the
>>final DOS version of Epi Info. Having a website with work-arounds, examples,
>>and FAQs would help the Epi Info list serve, because if the issue has
>>been brought up before, they could just be referred to the message
>>board.
>> Kevin
>Salud!
> jucar

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========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:03:02 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Kevin Sullivan Subject: Epi Info web site In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed There would probably be a need to set up a website outside of CDC. Because CDC is a governmental agency, they have a lot of limitations on what can be placed on their website and the timeliness of information due to the bureaucracy. They could link to a site, but to place things on an official US Government website is not straightforward and time consuming. I have always thought it would be great if there was a separate website where people could place example files. The downside is that it would probably be a time-consuming task for someone to organize everything. Kevin ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:22:44 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sarah Knowlton Subject: Permanent Dates in EPI6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone, First I would just like to say that I think it's a great idea to have our discussions on a group server and then edit it to a FAQ style. I am not sure how we would go about it, but I definately agree with it. I am hoping that once again that someone out there can help me out with a question that I have. I have a a date variable where I have assigned the year as permanent (1992) in Epi6. This works very well, however once I've entered the data and I require to go back and make changes when I go past the date variable it changes back to "01/01/1992". Below is what I wrote in my .chk file for my date variable. What can I do so that the date doesn't change if I want to go back and change other data? date before entry date= "01/01/1992" end after entry if date[7,4] <> "1992" then type "Year reset to 1992" +10 +0 date=date[1,6] + "1992" endif end end thanks for the help in advance! Sarah -- Sarah Knowlton Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:28:43 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sarah Knowlton Subject: combo box MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------EAA5EF52EE0DABE6260F8540" --------------EAA5EF52EE0DABE6260F8540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I also have another question that I had asked earlier on and did not get the kind of response that i had expected as well as that I undertsood. I wanted to make a combo box in Epi6 so that the person entering could merely select their entry choice from a list (without having to type) or enter their response if it was not provided on the list. Is it possible to do this and if so could someone please walk me through it step by step? thanks so much! Sarah -- Sarah Knowlton Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 --------------EAA5EF52EE0DABE6260F8540 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I also have another question that I had asked earlier on and did not get the kind of response that i had expected as well as that I undertsood. I wanted to make a combo box in Epi6 so that the person entering could merely select their entry choice from a list (without having to type) or enter their response if it was not provided on the list.
Is it possible to do this and if so could someone please walk me through it step by step?

thanks so much!
Sarah
--
Sarah Knowlton
Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening
Phone: 403.670.4477        Fax:   403.270.8003
--------------EAA5EF52EE0DABE6260F8540-- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:47:52 -0400 Reply-To: omaldona@entelchile.net Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Omar Maldonado A." Subject: Re: Permanent Dates in EPI6 In-Reply-To: <3A96B884.A99F1887@cancerboard.ab.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Sarah! Please, try this command on the chk file before record if date = . then date="01/01/1992" end Omar Maldonado A. Matr�n - Epidemi�logo Servicio de Salud Atacama http://www.saludatacama.cl > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Epi Info Discussion Group [mailto:EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV]En > nombre de Sarah Knowlton > > date > before entry > date= "01/01/1992" > end > after entry > if date[7,4] <> "1992" then > type "Year reset to 1992" +10 +0 > date=date[1,6] + "1992" > endif > end > end > > > thanks for the help in advance! > > Sarah > > -- > Sarah Knowlton > Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening > Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:17:22 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Jamie Hockin Subject: Re: combo box Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=TnrCebJQqfPymu3AUefgJnx8kFa1daKR8ulu7Pgi8DuHuMxiWBLKtBs2" --0__=TnrCebJQqfPymu3AUefgJnx8kFa1daKR8ulu7Pgi8DuHuMxiWBLKtBs2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sarah: I looked at Jens' response again and it looks like a good one, but ther= e is no easy way to do this in Epi6. Perhaps something that can go on the wish list for EpiData, Jens! I see the process like this: You are entering in data1.rec with the following in data1.chk for varia= ble combo You have a .rec file called combcode.rec that contains all the codes an= d their 'comment legal' meanings When you find a code that isn't in combcode, you must: - save what you have already entered of the current record and then exi= t from ENTER - use ENTER to add the new code and its meaning to COMBCODE.REC and the= n exit from ENTER again - start up ENTER once again, this time on data1.rec; go to the last rec= ord in data1.rec and continue entering data, starting with the COMBO variable.= Now the drop-down list will show the new code I don't think you can automate this process in Epi6, but some of the me= nu wizards out there might know a way. (SEE final comment below) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Here is a sample of what you put into data1.chk COMBO COMMENT LEGAL combcode.rec END The .rec file combcode.rec is where you keep all your codes. It needs o= nly two fields like COMBO and COMBTEXT that have your codes and their meanings.= You need a file combcode.chk that includes COMBO KEY END COMBTEXT KEY END COMBTEXT can be long (up to max you can fit on a screen) and guess what= - you can see more than 16 characters of the text when you press F9! This also works for using CODEFIELD (example is attached as .qes, .chk,= and .rec files). For this to work, you must first use ENTER to look at COMBCODE,= as this will make the necessary index files. (See attached file: combcode.chk)(See attached file: combcode.qes)(See = attached file: Combcode.rec) (See attached file: Trycombo.rec)(See attached file: trycombo.qes)(See = attached file: trycombo.chk) Files I sent are: combcode.qes/.chk/.rec - as described above, but using CODES and CODEFI= ELD trycombo.qes/.chk/.rec - sample file for using combcode For the brave at heart: ENTER is pretty rigid (by design) when it starts working on a file and = it must know and keep in memory all the codes that it uses. But it seems to loa= d the codes only when you get to the rec file. If you are brave enough to hav= e two DOS windows open at the same time, you can actually do this when you find a= new code: - switch to your 2nd DOS window, that has the EPI6 main menu running - start up ENTER and load combcode.rec - add the new record and exit from ENTER - return to your data entry; you will have to move the cursor out of th= e field COMBO and then back in, using the arrow keys. Now the new code appears!= Jamie Hockin, MD, MSc Director, Public Health Training and Applications, Centre for Surveilla= nce Coordination Population and Public Health Branch, Health Canada Directeur, Formation et outils pour la sant=E9 publique, Centre de la c= oordination de la surveillance Direction g=E9n=E9rale de la sant=E9 de la population et de la sant=E9 = publique, Sant=E9 Canada Sarah Knowlton on 23/02/2001 02:28:43 PM Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group = To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV cc: (bcc: Jamie Hockin) Subject: [EPI-INFO] combo box = --0__=TnrCebJQqfPymu3AUefgJnx8kFa1daKR8ulu7Pgi8DuHuMxiWBLKtBs2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I also have another question that I had asked earlier on and did not get the kind of response that i had expected as well as that I undertsood. I wanted to make a combo box in Epi6 so that the person entering could merely select their entry choice from a list (without having to type) or enter their response if it was not provided on the list. Is it possible to do this and if so could someone please walk me through it step by step? thanks so much! 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Perhaps something that can go on the wish list for EpiData, Jens! I see the process like this: You are entering in data1.rec with the following in data1.chk for varia= ble combo You have a .rec file called combcode.rec that contains all the codes an= d their 'comment legal' meanings When you find a code that isn't in combcode, you must: - save what you have already entered of the current record and then exi= t from ENTER - use ENTER to add the new code and its meaning to COMBCODE.REC and the= n exit from ENTER again - start up ENTER once again, this time on data1.rec; go to the last rec= ord in data1.rec and continue entering data, starting with the COMBO variable.= Now the drop-down list will show the new code I don't think you can automate this process in Epi6, but some of the me= nu wizards out there might know a way. (SEE final comment below) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Here is a sample of what you put into data1.chk COMBO COMMENT LEGAL combcode.rec END The .rec file combcode.rec is where you keep all your codes. It needs o= nly two fields like COMBO and COMBTEXT that have your codes and their meanings.= You need a file combcode.chk that includes COMBO KEY END COMBTEXT KEY END COMBTEXT can be long (up to max you can fit on a screen) and guess what= - you can see more than 16 characters of the text when you press F9! This also works for using CODEFIELD (example is attached as .qes, .chk,= and .rec files). For this to work, you must first use ENTER to look at COMBCODE,= as this will make the necessary index files. (See attached file: combcode.chk)(See attached file: combcode.qes)(See = attached file: Combcode.rec) (See attached file: Trycombo.rec)(See attached file: trycombo.qes)(See = attached file: trycombo.chk) Files I sent are: combcode.qes/.chk/.rec - as described above, but using CODES and CODEFI= ELD trycombo.qes/.chk/.rec - sample file for using combcode For the brave at heart: ENTER is pretty rigid (by design) when it starts working on a file and = it must know and keep in memory all the codes that it uses. But it seems to loa= d the codes only when you get to the rec file. If you are brave enough to hav= e two DOS windows open at the same time, you can actually do this when you find a= new code: - switch to your 2nd DOS window, that has the EPI6 main menu running - start up ENTER and load combcode.rec - add the new record and exit from ENTER - return to your data entry; you will have to move the cursor out of th= e field COMBO and then back in, using the arrow keys. Now the new code appears!= Jamie Hockin, MD, MSc Director, Public Health Training and Applications, Centre for Surveilla= nce Coordination Population and Public Health Branch, Health Canada Directeur, Formation et outils pour la sant=E9 publique, Centre de la c= oordination de la surveillance Direction g=E9n=E9rale de la sant=E9 de la population et de la sant=E9 = publique, Sant=E9 Canada Sarah Knowlton on 23/02/2001 02:28:43 PM Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group = To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV cc: (bcc: Jamie Hockin) Subject: [EPI-INFO] combo box = --0__=6N4yvu6TVmg1T9n2Zc0NoRijeP8BAPYiDUGSoPSiJ0yNItXyFR0flCuy Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I also have another question that I had asked earlier on and did not get the kind of response that i had expected as well as that I undertsood. I wanted to make a combo box in Epi6 so that the person entering could merely select their entry choice from a list (without having to type) or enter their response if it was not provided on the list. Is it possible to do this and if so could someone please walk me through it step by step? thanks so much! 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Because We have an epiinfo page. The spanish epiinfo page, were thes translations of EpiInfo6/2000 are located. We maintain it and we are free of including what we decide. www.cica.es/epiinfo is located in an important server that gives internet especialized services to the universities of Andalucia (8 Universities). We offer our help very pleased, and i am sure our internet hoster are more pleased too. but, a FAQ is only a FAQ and what we could do as epiinfo-users is help to develop the FAQ of the CDC home page, perhaps Epi-team could say the help they want or suggest. Probably you know very wll the team and what you say is because you know the problem. jucar ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:30:26 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Catherine Cubbin Subject: error 202 - stack overflow in ANALYSIS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I'm using EPI-INFO 6 on a PC running Windows 2000. I'm not a frequent user so I hope my question is clear. I received the error message above (error 202 - stack overflow) when I tried to define a new variable with an IF - THEN statement. The new variable is defined as "yes" if any of 40 fields is "yes" and "no" otherwise. The error then throws me out of ANALYSIS. I did use the "/" sign in my statement. Any thoughts on what I should to do correct the error? Please advise. Many thanks...catherine ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Catherine Cubbin, Ph.D. Stanford Center for Research in Disease Prevention Stanford University School of Medicine 1000 Welch Road Palo Alto, CA 94304 650.498.4626 650.725.6906 fax ccubbin@stanford.edu Department of Family and Community Medicine University of California, San Francisco 500 Parnassus Avenue, MU-315 East, Box 0900 San Francisco, CA 94143 415.476.6620 415.476.6051 fax ccubbin@itsa.ucsf.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:00:55 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Dennis Leschinsky Subject: Re: error 202 - stack overflow in ANALYSIS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The "/" sign is used in Epi Info for division. The stack overflow message is usually received when you try to divide illegally (such as dividing by zero or by a text variable). Try rewriting the program again without the "/" sign. It may take some experimenting before you get the syntax correct. There is an on-line manual on the main menu which should have an example how to write the if-then statement. Dennis Leschinsky Nebraska Health and Human Services System Communicable Disease Surveillance 402-471-6450 phone 402-471-3601 fax dennis.leschinsky@hhss.state.ne.us Catherine Cubbin To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] error 202 - stack overflow in ANALYSIS 02/23/01 04:30 PM Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group I'm using EPI-INFO 6 on a PC running Windows 2000. I'm not a frequent user so I hope my question is clear. I received the error message above (error 202 - stack overflow) when I tried to define a new variable with an IF - THEN statement. The new variable is defined as "yes" if any of 40 fields is "yes" and "no" otherwise. The error then throws me out of ANALYSIS. I did use the "/" sign in my statement. Any thoughts on what I should to do correct the error? Please advise. Many thanks...catherine ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Catherine Cubbin, Ph.D. Stanford Center for Research in Disease Prevention Stanford University School of Medicine 1000 Welch Road Palo Alto, CA 94304 650.498.4626 650.725.6906 fax ccubbin@stanford.edu Department of Family and Community Medicine University of California, San Francisco 500 Parnassus Avenue, MU-315 East, Box 0900 San Francisco, CA 94143 415.476.6620 415.476.6051 fax ccubbin@itsa.ucsf.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:11:58 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Yves =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin-Pr=E9vel?= Subject: Re: error 202 - stack overflow in ANALYSIS In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20010223140937.00a12cd0@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Catherine, I think that your problem is that you have a very long IF THEN statement to= =20 write (40 variables to list with "OR" each of them!) and that you used the= =20 "/" sign instead of the "\" sign to be able to continue the statement on=20 the following line. Is that right? If so, are you writing your statement in a program (to be run in batch mode= =20 with ANALYSIS) or trying to enter directly the whole command in ANALYSIS?=20 In the latter case I'm not sure that you can write a so long statement.=20 What I strongly suggest is to write a program with EPED (save the file with= =20 a .pgm extension, say "newvar.pgm" for example). The program "newvar.pgm" should look like this: READ yourfile.rec DEFINE newvar IF var1=3D"yes" or var2=3D"yes" or.. ...or var(n)=3D"yes" \ or var(n+1)=3D"yes" or.... or var40=3D"yes" THEN newvar=3D"yes" ELSE= =20 newvar=3D"no" ERASE newfile.rec ROUTE newfile.rec WRITE RECFILE Note: Using the "\" sign is to indicate that the statement is continuing on= =20 the following line; just be sure that there is a space either before the=20 "\" sign or at the beginning of the following line. Then in ANALYSIS, simply type the command: RUN newvar.pgm If no error message occurs, you should get a newfile.rec; please read it=20 and check that it contains the newvar field and that its value is what you= =20 expected. Hope this helps Yves Yves MARTIN-PREVEL, Epid=E9miologiste Unit=E9 R106 'Nutrition, Alimentation, Soci=E9t=E9s' de l'IRD (Institut de Recherche pour le D=E9veloppement) BP5045 - 34032 Montpellier Cedex 1 (France) Tel: +33 (0)4 67 41 61 92 Fax: +33 (0)4 67 41 63 30 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:20:47 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "R.P. GILIBERT" Organization: chu Lyon Subject: A solution to the EPI-INFO lack of combo box MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C09E5C.37BD3320" C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C09E5C.37BD3320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you RELATE in the rec file that contains your LEGAL code list, you can built a combo list box : Suppose you have to enter antibiotics names in your main data file. The QES looks like : IdMAIN ATBname _____________________________ In the chk you declare a REC file for the LEGAL command, and relate into it if the atb code 'NEW' is choosen : IdMAIN KEY UNIQUE END ATBname LEGAL ComboCod.rec IF ATBname = "NEW" THEN RELATE idMAIN COMBOCOD 1 ENDIF END COMBOCOD.REC the atb names list, and the first name must be "NEW". For not reenter the new code, you also must add some GLOBAL var to get it back : BEFORE FILE DEFINE newATB _____________________________ GLOBAL END IdMAIN KEY UNIQUE END ATBname LEGAL ComboCod.rec IF ATBname = "NEW" THEN RELATE idMAIN COMBOCOD 1 ATBname = newATB ENDIF END Here is the COMBOCOD.QES : ATBname_____________________________ cod idMAIN ##### and it's CHK : BEFORE FILE DEFINE newATB _____________________________ GLOBAL HIDE idMAIN END ATBname KEY 1 newATB = ATBname END cod KEY 2 UNIQUE END idMAIN KEY END On problem remains : after choosing 'NEW' and entering the combocod list file, you can add a false new code by inadvertance, ie a code that was prevously entered and already present in the file. I found no way to prevent this. (reason is the "key unique" requirement for the related field 'idMAIN', which act as a filter on the combocod file and prevent any doublon's detection; passed 2 hours on this !) 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I feel that either no one is being honest with the development team or they have stopped listening to reason. We, as colleagues in the profession, respect the Epi Info development team very deeply for their track record. Epi 2000 is a different story altogether. Even Version 1.05 is full of problems. What is worse is that they have stopped responding properly. I personally feel that their help desk personnel are really out of their wits about this. We had this Atherosclerosis data. First we made a questionnaire with a lot of grids. After entering all data we found out that analysis does not read the record at all. I wrote to the team and a person informed me that sure, of course, I must be doing something wrong somewhere. That essentially meant 'shut up and let us live in our tranquility of not knowing'. A generative listening and exploring attitude is not there any more. After a time no one will feed them back. The king may live happily with his clothes, ever after. Syed. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kannika Vitsupakorn Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:06 Shifa Subject: Grid and related view > Dear Epi 2000 users, especially to Angel Saez, > > I've been teaching data management using Epi 2000 to my students this > semester. I've faced many problems using it and have sent many queries to > the team developers but hardly get any reply or explanation. However, here's > are my answers to one of the many problems : > > 1. Don't use Grid as a relational view. Once you create a grid with any > number of fields you cannot edit any of them later on. The only way to edit > the grid is to delete the whole grid and make the new one. > > 2. You will not be able to check the tab order of fields in grid or even check > the field structures. > > 3. In Analysis you cannot relate the parent view to related view in grid > format. That is you cannot analyse data in grid. > > I wonder why there 's such problem. If any of you out there could help me > explain these. I'm tired of writing to ask the development team in vain. > > Thank you, > > Kannika Vitsupakorn > > \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ > | > | Asst. Prof. Kannika Vitsupakorn > | Department of Community Medicine > | Faculty of Medicine > | Chiang Mai University > | Chiang Mai 50200 > | THAILAND > | Tel. 053-945471-4 > | Fax 053-945476 > | e-mail kvitsupa@med.cmu.ac.th > | http://172.17.13.56/div/commed/ > \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ > --------------------------------------Oooo.-------------------------- > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 07:54:43 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Bud Gerstman Subject: Future of Epi Info (Re: [EPI-INFO] Grid and related view) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear All, The current issues raised by Dr. Gillani and Dr. Vitsupakorn (copied below) relate to the bugs in grid and related views. For those of you now familiar with the complexities of an .mdb file format, you will not find this entirely surprising. Jens (sp?) and Mark have responded by developing EpiData, a much simpler and more reliable data entry and documentation system that uses the .REC file legacy. EI2K's development team has taken a long-term view, deciding on a more complex, Microsoft-centric view of data structure. To me, this seems the crux of the discussion. Because the EI2K development team was looking well into the future, it has risked alienating Epi Info's loyal users. I do believe that this is serious business, and that Dr. Gillani's reference to [the fable of] the Emperor's new cloths is well placed. I believe that these issues must be addressed in an open way, and they must be addressed as soon as possible. For now, I would encourage the Epi Info community to be honest and open in sharing their opinions, but to share them with the utmost "netiquette." It would be nice to have a thread titled "Future of Epi Info" so that the others issues don't confound this discussion. I know that I don't have time to read all the incoming material from the LISTSERVe, but if you use this title in the Subject line, I'll keep an eye out. We can then move the discussion along. Andy? Jens? Mark? Your comments please. Collegially, and with best wishes, Bud Gerstman ----- Original Message ----- From: "syed gillani" To: Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Grid and related view > Dr. vitsupakorn > > Thanks for an honest opinion. > I feel that either no one is being honest with the development team or they > have stopped listening to reason. > We, as colleagues in the profession, respect the Epi Info development team > very deeply for their track record. > Epi 2000 is a different story altogether. > Even Version 1.05 is full of problems. > What is worse is that they have stopped responding properly. I personally > feel that their help desk personnel are really out of their wits about this. > We had this Atherosclerosis data. > First we made a questionnaire with a lot of grids. After entering all data > we found out that analysis does not read the record at all. > I wrote to the team and a person informed me that sure, of course, I must be > doing something wrong somewhere. That essentially meant 'shut up and let us > live in our tranquility of not knowing'. > A generative listening and exploring attitude is not there any more. > After a time no one will feed them back. > The king may live happily with his clothes, ever after. > > Syed. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kannika Vitsupakorn > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:06 Shifa > Subject: Grid and related view > > > > Dear Epi 2000 users, especially to Angel Saez, > > > > I've been teaching data management using Epi 2000 to my students this > > semester. I've faced many problems using it and have sent many queries > to > > the team developers but hardly get any reply or explanation. However, > here's > > are my answers to one of the many problems : > > > > 1. Don't use Grid as a relational view. Once you create a grid with any > > number of fields you cannot edit any of them later on. The only way to > edit > > the grid is to delete the whole grid and make the new one. > > > > 2. You will not be able to check the tab order of fields in grid or even > check > > the field structures. > > > > 3. In Analysis you cannot relate the parent view to related view in grid > > format. That is you cannot analyse data in grid. > > > > I wonder why there 's such problem. If any of you out there could help me > > explain these. I'm tired of writing to ask the development team in vain. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Kannika Vitsupakorn > > > > \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ > > | > > | Asst. Prof. Kannika Vitsupakorn > > | Department of Community Medicine > > | Faculty of Medicine > > | Chiang Mai University > > | Chiang Mai 50200 > > | THAILAND > > | Tel. 053-945471-4 > > | Fax 053-945476 > > | e-mail kvitsupa@med.cmu.ac.th > > | http://172.17.13.56/div/commed/ > > \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ > > --------------------------------------Oooo.-------------------------- > > > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:14:20 +0800 Reply-To: fnh Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: fnh Subject: Re: Epi Info web site MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 RGVhciBTciwNCkkgYW0gbm93IGNvbmR1Y3RpbmcgdGhlIHRyYW5zbGF0aW9uIG9mIEVQSTIwMDAs IEkgZm9uZCB0aGUgTWljcm9zb2Z0IEludGVybmV0IEV4cGxvcm9lIChDaGluZXNlIFZlcnNpb24p IGlzIG11Y2ggYmV0dGVyIHRoYW4gdGhlIG9uZSBlcGkyMDAwIHdlcmUgdXNlZC4gQnV0IEl0IHNl ZW0gZGlkIG5vdCB3b3JrIHdpdGggSEVMUCBmdW5jdGlvbi4gSXQgc2hvdWxkIGJlIHJlZGlyZWN0 IHRvIHRoZSBuZXcgc2V0dGluZyBicm93c2VyIGFueXRpbWUsIGFmdGVyIG5ldyBzZXR0aW5nLiBI b3cgY2FuIEkgZG8gdGhhdD8NCg0KUHJvZmVzc29yIEhFIFd1DQoNCkluZm9ybWF0aW9uIENlbnRl cg0KZm9yIFB1YmxpYyBIZWFsdGgNCg0KQ2hpbmVzZSBBY2FkZW15DQogICAgICAgb2YNClByZXZl bnRpdmUgTWVkaWNpbmUNCi0tLS0tIE9yaWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UgLS0tLS0gDQq3orz+yMs6IEp1 YW4gQ2FybG9zIEZlcm5hbmRleiBNZXJpbm8gPGp1Y2FyQENJQ0EuRVM+DQrK1bz+yMs6IDxFUEkt SU5GT0BMSVNUU0VSVi5DREMuR09WPg0Kt6LLzcqxvOQ6INDHxtrB+SAyMDAxxOoy1MIyNMjVIDA2 OjA5DQrW98ziOiBSZTogW0VQSS1JTkZPXSBFcGkgSW5mbyB3ZWIgc2l0ZQ0KDQoNCj4gSG9sYSEN Cj4gDQo+ID4gVGhlcmUgd291bGQgcHJvYmFibHkgYmUgYSBuZWVkIHRvIHNldCB1cCBhIHdlYnNp dGUgb3V0c2lkZSBvZiBDREMuICBCZWNhdXNlDQo+IFdlIGhhdmUgYW4gZXBpaW5mbyBwYWdlLiBU aGUgc3BhbmlzaCBlcGlpbmZvIHBhZ2UsIHdlcmUgdGhlcw0KPiB0cmFuc2xhdGlvbnMgb2YgRXBp SW5mbzYvMjAwMCBhcmUgbG9jYXRlZC4gV2UgbWFpbnRhaW4gaXQgYW5kIHdlIGFyZQ0KPiBmcmVl IG9mIGluY2x1ZGluZyB3aGF0IHdlIGRlY2lkZS4NCj4gd3d3LmNpY2EuZXMvZXBpaW5mbyBpcyBs b2NhdGVkIGluIGFuIGltcG9ydGFudCBzZXJ2ZXIgdGhhdCBnaXZlcw0KPiBpbnRlcm5ldCBlc3Bl Y2lhbGl6ZWQgc2VydmljZXMgdG8gdGhlIHVuaXZlcnNpdGllcyBvZiBBbmRhbHVjaWEgKDgNCj4g VW5pdmVyc2l0aWVzKS4gV2Ugb2ZmZXIgb3VyIGhlbHAgdmVyeSBwbGVhc2VkLCBhbmQgaSBhbSBz dXJlIG91cg0KPiBpbnRlcm5ldCBob3N0ZXIgYXJlIG1vcmUgcGxlYXNlZCB0b28uDQo+IA0KPiBi dXQsDQo+IA0KPiBhIEZBUSBpcyBvbmx5IGEgRkFRIGFuZCB3aGF0IHdlIGNvdWxkIGRvIGFzIGVw aWluZm8tdXNlcnMgaXMgaGVscCB0bw0KPiBkZXZlbG9wIHRoZSBGQVEgb2YgdGhlIENEQyBob21l IHBhZ2UsIHBlcmhhcHMgRXBpLXRlYW0gY291bGQgc2F5IHRoZQ0KPiBoZWxwIHRoZXkgd2FudCBv ciBzdWdnZXN0LiBQcm9iYWJseSB5b3Uga25vdyB2ZXJ5IHdsbCB0aGUgdGVhbSBhbmQgd2hhdA0K PiB5b3Ugc2F5IGlzIGJlY2F1c2UgeW91IGtub3cgdGhlIHByb2JsZW0uDQo+IA0KPiBqdWNhcg0K PiANCg== ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:29:55 +1100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Meredith Caelli Subject: Re: Importing Epi6. rec to Epi2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ** High Priority ** Hi we have having a lot of trouble importing an Epi6 .rec file into an = Epi2000 mdb. The make view works, all fields are read however: only the data for the first 200 fields is brought across, for the = remaining 53 fields no data comes across, yet there is data in all the = fields in Epi6 has any-one else experienced this problem or have any ideas how we can get = around it? =20 Kind Regards Meredith Caelli Hunter Public Health Unit PO Box 466 WALLSEND NSW 2287 Telephone: 612 49 246335 Fax: 612 49 246490=20 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:05:24 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Jens M. Lauritsen (JeL@sus.fyns-amt.dk)" Subject: EpiData version 1.5 ready In-Reply-To: <200102260500.f1Q50Tt02067@appleton.uni2.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The version 1.5 (dated 22 02 2001) of EpiData is ready for downloading from Http://www.epidata.dk And should be ready from the other sites soon (France, Spain and Boston). Major news is: A translation pack which gives you menu's in local languages. See the download site for a list of languages and what is available in these. Check file language additions: Type "text" will just type the text on screen Type comment fieldname (New) will take the text from a defined comment legal and put the text value into the field called fieldname, which must be string. Two functions: DayOfWeek(date) returns 1 for monday, 2 for tuesday etc. WeekNum(date) returns the week number of the date in that year. Kindly Jens Lauritsen For info on EpiData, see: Http://www.epidata.dk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:22:07 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Ted Donnelly Subject: Epi Info 2000 define, assign, recode Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am an experienced EpiInfo 6 user but new to to Epi Info 2000 I have brought 8000 ambulance runs from motor vehicle crashes into MS = Access 97. Using Epi Info 2000 Analysis on the Access 97 table, I = encounter some problems with define, assign and recode. I have included = some code at the end of the message I have a numeric variable Age. =20 Variable Age_type has the following values: 0 years 1 months 2 days There are about 50 cases in my data set whose age is given in months or = days. When I try to create a variable Age_yrs (age in years) making ages = in months or days =3D 0, it comes out as a text variable (I want it to be = numeric) I want to create age groups so that I can make cross tables with other = variables. 1. when I define a variable Age5gp, I cannot recode Age to Age5gp I tried to assign a value to age5gp but that became the = permanent value. The Epi Info 2000 manual refers us to another manner of = recoding in the How To section but I didn't find that. Thank you=20 Ted Donnelly Public Health Epidemiologist Office of Health Statistics Rhode Island Dept of Health (401)222-5142 TedD@doh.state.ri.us READ 'C:\MYDOCU~1\DB\TEDSCAN2.MDB':mvruns select age_type =3D 0 means age select select age_type > 0 tables age age_type select define age_yrs if age_type > 0 then assign age_yrs =3D 0 else assign age_yrs =3D age end freq age_yrs [here no 0's come through so I know there is a problem = because there are some infants in the data set] define age5gp recode age age5gp 0 - 9 =3D "< 10" 10 - 14 =3D "10-14" 15 - 19 =3D "15-19" 20 - 24 =3D "20-24" 25 - 29 =3D "25-29" 30 - 39 =3D "30-39" 40 - 49 =3D "40-49" 50 - 59 =3D "50-59" 60 - 69 =3D "60-69" 70 - 79 =3D "70-79" 80 - HIVALUE =3D "80 +" else =3D "missing" end freq age5gp [error message] ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:09:11 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Jamie Hockin Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Nicely put, Bud. I think that the legacy data format of Epi6 has a long life, especially= among those who work in field conditions or with minimal technical support. A= lthough computers have far surpassed what Andy Dean and others dreamed of when = they started the EpiInfo project, some of the other conditions they had have= not: removable diskette storage is generally limited to 1.44MB diskettes Binding Epi2000 to the Access engine seemed like a good idea because it= gives (potentially) the power of a trusted relational database at no cost to = the user. However, it seems to me that the people having problems with Epi6 were = those developing surveillance systems or complex databases. This is a lot eas= ier to do in Access directly, once you take the time to learn how to establish va= lidity checks on the data. In my experience, analysis of such data sets involv= es manipulation of the data out of the relations and into a simple matrix = anyway. What those system development people really need is a robust database m= anagement software (Access, Approach, etc) and they should put out the small amou= nt of money they need to get it. Then they need a robust analysis package tha= t will do the right analyses (i.e. what Epi6 could do) and that is the real stren= gth of what the EpiInfo team have created. For those of us who teach for field use or anyone just trying to manage= reasonable data sets, Epi6 was great. We are probably going with EpiDat= a when we teach our incoming class this summer, as the data entry and validation = are really quite nice and Jens, et al have added some obvious functions tha= t were missing from Epi6. We can still run Epi6, so remains the analysis software of choice (i.e.= free and does what an epidemiologist expects). We'll probably install Epi2000 on= our field laptops also, and teach people how to import .rec files, to take = advantage of the menued analysis (when it starts working cleanly) and EpiMap - th= e best part of Epi2000. We have lots of power and hard drive in the laptops, b= ut I won't be encouranging any of our field epidemiologists to e-mail me .md= b files over phone lines from the field. Jamie Hockin, MD, MSc Jamie_Hockin@hc-sc.gc.ca Director, Public Health Training and Applications, Centre for Surveilla= nce Coordination Population and Public Health Branch, Health Canada Directeur, Formation et outils pour la sant=E9 publique, Centre de la c= oordination de la surveillance Direction g=E9n=E9rale de la sant=E9 de la population et de la sant=E9 = publique, Sant=E9 Canada Bud Gerstman wrote: Dear All, The current issues raised by Dr. Gillani and Dr. Vitsupakorn (copied be= low) relate to the bugs in grid and related views. For those of you now fami= liar with the complexities of an .mdb file format, you will not find this entirely surprising. Jens (sp?) and Mark have responded by developing EpiData, a much simpler and more reliable data entry and documentation system that uses the .REC file legacy. EI2K's development team has take= n a long-term view, deciding on a more complex, Microsoft-centric view of d= ata structure. To me, this seems the crux of the discussion. Because the EI2K development team was looking well into the future, it = has risked alienating Epi Info's loyal users. I do believe that this is ser= ious business, and that Dr. Gillani's reference to [the fable of] the Empero= r's new cloths is well placed. I believe that these issues must be addressed in an open way, and they = must be addressed as soon as possible. For now, I would encourage the Epi In= fo community to be honest and open in sharing their opinions, but to share= them with the utmost "netiquette." It would be nice to have a thread titled "Future of Epi Info" so that the others issues don't confound this discussion. I know that I don't have time to read all the incoming mate= rial from the LISTSERVe, but if you use this title in the Subject line, I'll= keep an eye out. We can then move the discussion along. Andy? Jens? Mark? Your comments please. Collegially, and with best wishes, Bud Gerstman = ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:26:05 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Jens M. Lauritsen" Subject: EpiData team response on the future strategy of EpiInfo way of working. In-Reply-To: <200007130402.GAA22851@appleton.uni2.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It can be no secret that we prefer the EpiInfo v6.xx ways of working with data to those introduced with the release of EpiInfo 2000. In our view, the strengths of EpiInfo v6.xx are: 1. The simplicity of the QES/REC/CHK approach. 2. The flexibility and comprehensives of the QES/REC/CHK approach. 3. It's widespread use in public health. 4. The collective knowledge and experience of the EpiInfo v6.xx user-community. In addition, many routine data collection systems (e.g. surveillance systems) and ongoing trials use the .REC file format and much work has gone into the writing and debugging of data checking routines as well as reporting systems. It is important to us that the users / developers of these systems could start the migration from MSDOS to Windows with the minimum of extra work. We are also mindful of the use of 'not-completely new' computers that are used as 'data-entry terminals' in large studies or reside (e.g.) in public health departments in the developing world. Our experiences with EpiInfo 2000 showed that it required well-specified machines on which to run well. We though it important that a public domain public health package should run on a minimally specified machine. And, in short, we liked EpiInfo v6.xx so much that we wanted an 'EpiInfo v6.xx for Windows'. Since CDC decided upon a strategy that overlooked what we believe to be important requirements with regard to the migration of EpiInfo to Windows we decided to embark on the EpiData development as a more direct migration of EpiInfo v6.xx to the Windows environment. To the strengths of the original we have added new functions relating to documentation of data (e.g. file, value, and variable labels) and the batch checking of data. You can read more in the EpiData history document: http://www.epidata.dk/history.htm We know of no other program that is better suited for data-entry and documentation of data that is easy to use for the newcomer whilst remaining flexible and powerful enough for experienced persons to be able to build sophisticated data-entry and management system. With regard to the analysis of data. There are many tools, some available for free, that do this very well. It should be noted that the survival analysis and logistic regression programs included with EpiInfo 2000 use the same .REC file data structure as EpiInfo v6.xx and EpiData and that existing EpiInfo v6.xx data-analysis tools (ANALYSIS, EPINUT, CSAMPLE, LOGISTIC, cLOGISTIC, KMSURV) all work with EpiData files. Like EpiInfo v6.xx and EpiInfo 2000, EpiData is free. Try it for yourself. The program and documentation files are small (1.1Mb download total). You can download EpiData from: http://www.epidata.dk EpiData installs no files outside of it's own directory and makes no changes to your Windows setup. EpiData is safe to install and can be cleanly uninstalled from the Windows Control Panel. Whether users prefer the EpiData or the EpiInfo 2000 strategy is a personal decision. We urge you to try both and decide. On three major aspects, EpiData will NOT replace the EpiInfo v6.xx. These are: A. EpiData is a single user program and will not allow multiple users to enter data in the same .REC file at the same time. B. EpiData can produce tables and lists of data but it is NOT a data-analysis tool. There are NO plans for the EpiData team to create a Windows version of ANALYSIS.EXE. It should be noted, however, that the current EpiInfo v6.xx data-analysis tools can work with EpiData .REC files and that EpiData can export data in a variety of common file formats including export for statistical analysis with variable and value labels (STATA in the current version, SPSS and SAS planned). C. We are not able to establish a hotline or similar support service. We will, instead, rely on the vast amount of knowledge related to the QES/REC/CHK system available in public health circles around the world. We intend to make EpiData easy to use and to fix all identified bugs within the functionality we have decided to implement. If you report a bug to us we will do our best to fix it quickly. Our wish is that EpiData become user- supported software in the same way that EpiInfo v6.xx was/is. We do not know if this situation will change. These are our current plans. We are working on a very small budget and have no major institution backing us up with funding, personnel, or large resources. Our work on EpiData is done as a contribution to the general public health community which we do in our spare time. Kind regards to all. Jens M.Lauritsen, Michael Bruus and Mark Myatt ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:42:31 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: cgreen Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree. We teach Epi-Info in the graduate Epidemiology course here in Winnipeg, Manitoba. This year we taught data capture using Epi-Data, and data anlaysis using Epi 6.04 (analysis). =20 Chris Green Manitoba Health Epidemiology Unit Winnipeg, Manitoba At 11:09 AM 02/26/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Nicely put, Bud. > >I think that the legacy data format of Epi6 has a long life, especially= among >those who work in field conditions or with minimal technical support. Although >computers have far surpassed what Andy Dean and others dreamed of when they >started the EpiInfo project, some of the other conditions they had have= not: >removable diskette storage is generally limited to 1.44MB diskettes > >Binding Epi2000 to the Access engine seemed like a good idea because it= gives >(potentially) the power of a trusted relational database at no cost to the user. >However, it seems to me that the people having problems with Epi6 were= those >developing surveillance systems or complex databases. This is a lot easier to do >in Access directly, once you take the time to learn how to establish= validity >checks on the data. In my experience, analysis of such data sets involves >manipulation of the data out of the relations and into a simple matrix anyway. >What those system development people really need is a robust database management >software (Access, Approach, etc) and they should put out the small amount= of >money they need to get it. Then they need a robust analysis package that will do >the right analyses (i.e. what Epi6 could do) and that is the real strength= of >what the EpiInfo team have created. > >For those of us who teach for field use or anyone just trying to manage >reasonable data sets, Epi6 was great. We are probably going with EpiData when we >teach our incoming class this summer, as the data entry and validation are >really quite nice and Jens, et al have added some obvious functions that= were >missing from Epi6. > >We can still run Epi6, so remains the analysis software of choice (i.e. free and >does what an epidemiologist expects). We'll probably install Epi2000 on our >field laptops also, and teach people how to import .rec files, to take advantage >of the menued analysis (when it starts working cleanly) and EpiMap - the= best >part of Epi2000. We have lots of power and hard drive in the laptops, but I >won't be encouranging any of our field epidemiologists to e-mail me .mdb files >over phone lines from the field. > >Jamie Hockin, MD, MSc >Jamie_Hockin@hc-sc.gc.ca > >Director, Public Health Training and Applications, Centre for Surveillance >Coordination >Population and Public Health Branch, Health Canada > >Directeur, Formation et outils pour la sant=E9 publique, Centre de la coordination >de la surveillance >Direction g=E9n=E9rale de la sant=E9 de la population et de la sant=E9 publ= ique, Sant=E9 >Canada > > > >Bud Gerstman wrote: >Dear All, > >The current issues raised by Dr. Gillani and Dr. Vitsupakorn (copied below) >relate to the bugs in grid and related views. For those of you now familiar >with the complexities of an .mdb file format, you will not find this >entirely surprising. Jens (sp?) and Mark have responded by developing >EpiData, a much simpler and more reliable data entry and documentation >system that uses the .REC file legacy. EI2K's development team has taken a >long-term view, deciding on a more complex, Microsoft-centric view of data >structure. To me, this seems the crux of the discussion. > >Because the EI2K development team was looking well into the future, it has >risked alienating Epi Info's loyal users. I do believe that this is serious >business, and that Dr. Gillani's reference to [the fable of] the Emperor's >new cloths is well placed. > >I believe that these issues must be addressed in an open way, and they must >be addressed as soon as possible. For now, I would encourage the Epi Info >community to be honest and open in sharing their opinions, but to share= them >with the utmost "netiquette." It would be nice to have a thread titled >"Future of Epi Info" so that the others issues don't confound this >discussion. I know that I don't have time to read all the incoming material >from the LISTSERVe, but if you use this title in the Subject line, I'll= keep >an eye out. We can then move the discussion along. > >Andy? Jens? Mark? Your comments please. > >Collegially, and with best wishes, >Bud Gerstman > > > > > > > > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:39:34 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sarah Knowlton Subject: Re: EpiData team response on the future strategy ofEpiInfo way ofworking. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have used EpiData and I think it is a far superior system the Epi2000 and I agree intirely with what you stated in your e-mail. Keep up the excellent work...your efforts at perfecting and de-bugging Epidata are much appreciated. I am merely waiting for your program to be able to handle relational data bases and then I will make the switch from Epi6 to Epidata permanent! Thanks Again! "Jens M. Lauritsen" wrote: > It can be no secret that we prefer the EpiInfo v6.xx ways of working > with data to those introduced with the release of EpiInfo 2000. In our > view, the strengths of EpiInfo v6.xx are: > > 1. The simplicity of the QES/REC/CHK approach. > > 2. The flexibility and comprehensives of the QES/REC/CHK > approach. > > 3. It's widespread use in public health. > > 4. The collective knowledge and experience of the EpiInfo v6.xx > user-community. > > In addition, many routine data collection systems (e.g. surveillance > systems) and ongoing trials use the .REC file format and much work has > gone into the writing and debugging of data checking routines as well as > reporting systems. It is important to us that the users / developers of > these systems could start the migration from MSDOS to Windows with the > minimum of extra work. > > We are also mindful of the use of 'not-completely new' computers that > are used as 'data-entry terminals' in large studies or reside (e.g.) in > public health departments in the developing world. Our experiences with > EpiInfo 2000 showed that it required well-specified machines on which to > run well. We though it important that a public domain public health > package should run on a minimally specified machine. > > And, in short, we liked EpiInfo v6.xx so much that we wanted an 'EpiInfo > v6.xx for Windows'. > > Since CDC decided upon a strategy that overlooked what we believe to be > important requirements with regard to the migration of EpiInfo to > Windows we decided to embark on the EpiData development as a more direct > migration of EpiInfo v6.xx to the Windows environment. To the strengths > of the original we have added new functions relating to documentation of > data (e.g. file, value, and variable labels) and the batch checking of > data. You can read more in the EpiData history document: > > http://www.epidata.dk/history.htm > > We know of no other program that is better suited for data-entry and > documentation of data that is easy to use for the newcomer whilst > remaining flexible and powerful enough for experienced persons to be > able to build sophisticated data-entry and management system. > > With regard to the analysis of data. There are many tools, some > available for free, that do this very well. It should be noted that the > survival analysis and logistic regression programs included with EpiInfo > 2000 use the same .REC file data structure as EpiInfo v6.xx and > EpiData and that existing EpiInfo v6.xx data-analysis tools (ANALYSIS, > EPINUT, CSAMPLE, LOGISTIC, cLOGISTIC, KMSURV) all work with EpiData > files. > > Like EpiInfo v6.xx and EpiInfo 2000, EpiData is free. Try it for > yourself. The program and documentation files are small (1.1Mb download > total). You can download EpiData from: > > http://www.epidata.dk > > EpiData installs no files outside of it's own directory and makes no > changes to your Windows setup. EpiData is safe to install and can be > cleanly uninstalled from the Windows Control Panel. > > Whether users prefer the EpiData or the EpiInfo 2000 strategy is a > personal decision. We urge you to try both and decide. > > On three major aspects, EpiData will NOT replace the EpiInfo v6.xx. > These are: > > A. EpiData is a single user program and will not allow multiple > users to enter data in the same .REC file at the same time. > > B. EpiData can produce tables and lists of data but it is NOT a > data-analysis tool. There are NO plans for the EpiData team to > create a Windows version of ANALYSIS.EXE. It should be noted, > however, that the current EpiInfo v6.xx data-analysis tools can > work with EpiData .REC files and that EpiData can export data in > a variety of common file formats including export for > statistical analysis with variable and value labels (STATA in > the current version, SPSS and SAS planned). > > C. We are not able to establish a hotline or similar support > service. We will, instead, rely on the vast amount of knowledge > related to the QES/REC/CHK system available in public health > circles around the world. We intend to make EpiData easy to use > and to fix all identified bugs within the functionality we have > decided to implement. If you report a bug to us we will do our > best to fix it quickly. Our wish is that EpiData become user- > supported software in the same way that EpiInfo v6.xx was/is. > > We do not know if this situation will change. These are our current > plans. We are working on a very small budget and have no major > institution backing us up with funding, personnel, or large resources. > > Our work on EpiData is done as a contribution to the general public > health community which we do in our spare time. > > Kind regards to all. > > Jens M.Lauritsen, Michael Bruus and Mark Myatt -- Sarah Knowlton Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:06:13 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Bud Gerstman Subject: Future of Epi Info (cont.) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jens makes some strong points in favor of the Epi6 legacy system. Thank you Jens! Personally, I think that the EI2K development team was trying to respect the need for backward compatibility, but fell somewhat short in achieving this goal. They were also looking toward a future in which Web-connectivity will become an important element of public health data sharing. Alas, although the goals were noble, some frustration ensued because of the attempt to do too much. This reminds me of what has happened with the PDA market -- Palm made a very good product because it did a few things well. Other PDAs (e.g., the now defunct Apple Newton and some of the Microsoft CE products) have not succeeded because they tried to do too many things and did none of them particularly well. With this said, I'm hoping that the continuing increase in desktop computing power and continued development of EI2K will amerliorate some of the problems we've encountered so far. I'm hoping some EI2K supporters will take some counter position to help balance the argument. In union, Bud Gerstman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jens M. Lauritsen" To: Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 9:26 AM Subject: [EPI-INFO] EpiData team response on the future strategy of EpiInfo way of working. > It can be no secret that we prefer the EpiInfo v6.xx ways of working > with data to those introduced with the release of EpiInfo 2000. In our > view, the strengths of EpiInfo v6.xx are: > > 1. The simplicity of the QES/REC/CHK approach. > > 2. The flexibility and comprehensives of the QES/REC/CHK > approach. > > 3. It's widespread use in public health. > > 4. The collective knowledge and experience of the EpiInfo v6.xx > user-community. > > In addition, many routine data collection systems (e.g. surveillance > systems) and ongoing trials use the .REC file format and much work has > gone into the writing and debugging of data checking routines as well as > reporting systems. It is important to us that the users / developers of > these systems could start the migration from MSDOS to Windows with the > minimum of extra work. > > We are also mindful of the use of 'not-completely new' computers that > are used as 'data-entry terminals' in large studies or reside (e.g.) in > public health departments in the developing world. Our experiences with > EpiInfo 2000 showed that it required well-specified machines on which to > run well. We though it important that a public domain public health > package should run on a minimally specified machine. > > And, in short, we liked EpiInfo v6.xx so much that we wanted an 'EpiInfo > v6.xx for Windows'. > > Since CDC decided upon a strategy that overlooked what we believe to be > important requirements with regard to the migration of EpiInfo to > Windows we decided to embark on the EpiData development as a more direct > migration of EpiInfo v6.xx to the Windows environment. To the strengths > of the original we have added new functions relating to documentation of > data (e.g. file, value, and variable labels) and the batch checking of > data. You can read more in the EpiData history document: > > http://www.epidata.dk/history.htm > > We know of no other program that is better suited for data-entry and > documentation of data that is easy to use for the newcomer whilst > remaining flexible and powerful enough for experienced persons to be > able to build sophisticated data-entry and management system. > > With regard to the analysis of data. There are many tools, some > available for free, that do this very well. It should be noted that the > survival analysis and logistic regression programs included with EpiInfo > 2000 use the same .REC file data structure as EpiInfo v6.xx and > EpiData and that existing EpiInfo v6.xx data-analysis tools (ANALYSIS, > EPINUT, CSAMPLE, LOGISTIC, cLOGISTIC, KMSURV) all work with EpiData > files. > > Like EpiInfo v6.xx and EpiInfo 2000, EpiData is free. Try it for > yourself. The program and documentation files are small (1.1Mb download > total). You can download EpiData from: > > http://www.epidata.dk > > EpiData installs no files outside of it's own directory and makes no > changes to your Windows setup. EpiData is safe to install and can be > cleanly uninstalled from the Windows Control Panel. > > Whether users prefer the EpiData or the EpiInfo 2000 strategy is a > personal decision. We urge you to try both and decide. > > On three major aspects, EpiData will NOT replace the EpiInfo v6.xx. > These are: > > A. EpiData is a single user program and will not allow multiple > users to enter data in the same .REC file at the same time. > > B. EpiData can produce tables and lists of data but it is NOT a > data-analysis tool. There are NO plans for the EpiData team to > create a Windows version of ANALYSIS.EXE. It should be noted, > however, that the current EpiInfo v6.xx data-analysis tools can > work with EpiData .REC files and that EpiData can export data in > a variety of common file formats including export for > statistical analysis with variable and value labels (STATA in > the current version, SPSS and SAS planned). > > C. We are not able to establish a hotline or similar support > service. We will, instead, rely on the vast amount of knowledge > related to the QES/REC/CHK system available in public health > circles around the world. We intend to make EpiData easy to use > and to fix all identified bugs within the functionality we have > decided to implement. If you report a bug to us we will do our > best to fix it quickly. Our wish is that EpiData become user- > supported software in the same way that EpiInfo v6.xx was/is. > > We do not know if this situation will change. These are our current > plans. We are working on a very small budget and have no major > institution backing us up with funding, personnel, or large resources. > > Our work on EpiData is done as a contribution to the general public > health community which we do in our spare time. > > Kind regards to all. > > Jens M.Lauritsen, Michael Bruus and Mark Myatt > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:37:31 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Bud Gerstman Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Jamie. Here are some comments in response to your thoughtful insights. > I think that the legacy data format of Epi6 has a long life, especially among > those who work in field conditions or with minimal technical support. Although > computers have far surpassed what Andy Dean and others dreamed of when they > started the EpiInfo project, some of the other conditions they had have not: > removable diskette storage is generally limited to 1.44MB diskettes Yes. And there has also been problems when downloading the program. Inexperience (read: impatient) users cannot tolerate the long download times. And when their ISP disconnects them in the midst of a download, this frustrates is compounded. In a world of broadband access, this would not be a problem. But broadband access for most of the population is still many years away. > Binding Epi2000 to the Access engine seemed like a good idea because it gives > (potentially) the power of a trusted relational database at no cost to the user. > However, it seems to me that the people having problems with Epi6 were those > developing surveillance systems or complex databases. This is a lot easier to do > in Access directly, once you take the time to learn how to establish validity > checks on the data. In my experience, analysis of such data sets involves > manipulation of the data out of the relations and into a simple matrix anyway. > What those system development people really need is a robust database management > software (Access, Approach, etc) and they should put out the small amount of > money they need to get it. Then they need a robust analysis package that will do > the right analyses (i.e. what Epi6 could do) and that is the real strength of > what the EpiInfo team have created. Concur. Most non-technical users need little more than a two-dimensional data tables. When more complex data systems are needed, a robust database management system is necessary. I am assuming that that EI2K will eventually become a robust data system, but for now. . . In EI2K's favor, I believe that it is easier to set up a complex epi data base in it, rather than designing the system from scratch in Access. It seems as if you differ here. Your comment also points out the fundamental problem with EpiData -- the lack of a any type of data analysis program. I see that you address this issue below. (Wonderful!) > For those of us who teach for field use or anyone just trying to manage > reasonable data sets, Epi6 was great. We are probably going with EpiData when we > teach our incoming class this summer, as the data entry and validation are > really quite nice and Jens, et al have added some obvious functions that were > missing from Epi6. > We can still run Epi6, so remains the analysis software of choice (i.e. free and > does what an epidemiologist expects). We'll probably install Epi2000 on our > field laptops also, and teach people how to import .rec files, to take advantage > of the menued analysis (when it starts working cleanly) and EpiMap - the best > part of Epi2000. We have lots of power and hard drive in the laptops, but I > won't be encouranging any of our field epidemiologists to e-mail me .mdb files > over phone lines from the field. Running Epi6's analysis software is a good choice. In addition, one can fall back on SPSS, STATA, SAS, etc. However, these are costly and not easily suited to epi analyses. There are also some very good public domain data analysis programs under development (e.g., FreeStat: http://openstat.homestead.com/files/FreeStat.htm). I hope that the EI2K development team is closely following this thread. I also hope they will not be too disheartened by our comments; we appreciate their hard work and dedication to public health informatics! It will be interesting to see how things rapidly develop. Bud ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:53:51 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Giles Crane Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Very sensible comments from Jamie Hocking. Here are some other general comments: When I first encountered EPI-INFO, after using PRODAS, SAS, etc, etc, I was not impressed. However, The EPO continued to improve and add dimensions to the package. I realized that this product had a certain simplicity, a good feel for action, and that pieces could be fit together into very lengthy and complex systems as necessary. In fact, there is a certain encouragement to experiment with EPI6, find new and better ways of using relations. Modification, I believe, is a bit easier in EPI6 than in, say FoxPro, and flexibility is just what one needs in the Public Health arena. Going from ASCII files to MDB files may make sense to a WINDOWS network engineer, but not to someone doing Public Health and dealing with agency personnel who wish to have access to the package. Try looking into and .MDB file with WordPad or EPED. I hear about about trying to fit EPI 2000 table output and html output onto a page. Sometimes I wonder who was at that meeting in Atlanta about the future of EPI-INFO. Start with the simple, and build upon results. Pure research has its place, but we need support of EPI6, and I know that several people are relieved that the CDC/WHO has offered to continue to support EPI6. Hopefully EPI 6.04c full will include a fix on the parsing in ANALYSIS, writerec command which has better control of what variables are output, and so forth. Field work will continue--not everyone will live in cubbies connected by fiber optics and supported by private contractors at public expense. The future sometimes turns out a bit different from the forecasts of technologists. Giles Crane, M.Phil., MPH Research Scientist & Statistician 609 292-8012, -5666 glc@doh.state.nj.us ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:55:30 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Geibel, Scott" Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I would just like to add that after EpiData 1.3 was produced with the Rebuild, Validate, and Stata Export functions properly working, I felt that EpiData was ready to go for our purposes of data entry of population survey questionnaires. I took it to Africa last month on a CD that contained Epi Info 2000, Epi 6, and other items. I worked with our data entry staff/managers to install all of it, and gave brief introductions on the new programs. For these colleagues in developing countries who were already familiar with Epi 6 to some degree, their eyes really lit up as they explored EpiData. They understood how the software worked very quickly, and I was impressed with how EpiData very much teaches itself. I think that EI2K still has a lot to offer now and in the future--it's just that EpiData for now provides a smoother transition into the windows environment. The use of Comment Legal to export as value labels is brilliant, and once converted to Stata I can convert it to anything else using StatTransfer. With a well-written questionnaire and data entry program in place, it's possible to produce an almost-clean and instantly analyzable dataset with EpiData. I recommend it to those who do most of their analysis with high-end statistical software such as SPSS, Stata, etc. and are looking for a solid, yet easy-to-use data entry program--it's public domain status is great plus. I think this program is a real winner. Congratulations to the EpiData development team. Scott _____________________________________________________________ Scott Geibel, MPH Horizons Project Population Council 4301 Connecticut Avenue, NW Suite 280 Washington, DC 20008 Tel: 202-237-9436; Fax: 202-237-8410 e-mail: sgeibel@pcdc.org ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 17:20:08 -0300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Enrique Finetti Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_983229608==_" --=====================_983229608==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dears Abrantes and Samir: I send a file calsem.pgm attached. This file, when run in analysis, make a file calenda.rec (wait some minutes). It content the fields "dia" (day of week), "fecha" (day in question, in european date "dd/mm/yyyy"), "semana" (epi week), "aep" (epi year) and "estacion" (season in south hemispheric). The epi weeks are calculate like the CDC=B4s way. You can change the field name in the field "fecha" with the name of date field in your rec file, you can use check to do this. Then use relate (relate ) and make your calculations. Ignore the fields "x", "y" and "z". calsem.pgm make a calendar (in epi604 rec format) from 1990 to 2003, you can change the last year, in line 153 of the pgm, but do not alter the first year. Perhaps, if you are not a spanish spoken or not live in south hemispheric or not use european dates, you wish to make some changes.... 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The decision to move over to windows environment adapting MSAccess database structure has complicated an already difficult task. Any development effort will inevitably be judged in comparison to Epi 6, a system that took so many years to reach the level of functionality that it did. Entering Windows arena has further raised expectations. Those who have experience with MSAccess would tend to expect that kind of flexibility and ease of use in Epi 2000 environment. To expect so from a program still being developed is unjustified yet inevitable. I do think that, in time, Epi 2000 will reach the same level of robustness as Epi 6 but meanwhile, an ongoing dialogue is what is needed and issues have to be looked into as they arise. Frequent feedback will help the team keep pace with the demand for change in improvement. Syed. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bud Gerstman To: Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 18:54 Shifa Subject: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi Info (Re: [EPI-INFO] Grid and related view) > Dear All, > > The current issues raised by Dr. Gillani and Dr. Vitsupakorn (copied below) > relate to the bugs in grid and related views. For those of you now familiar > with the complexities of an .mdb file format, you will not find this > entirely surprising. Jens (sp?) and Mark have responded by developing > EpiData, a much simpler and more reliable data entry and documentation > system that uses the .REC file legacy. EI2K's development team has taken a > long-term view, deciding on a more complex, Microsoft-centric view of data > structure. To me, this seems the crux of the discussion. > > Because the EI2K development team was looking well into the future, it has > risked alienating Epi Info's loyal users. I do believe that this is serious > business, and that Dr. Gillani's reference to [the fable of] the Emperor's > new cloths is well placed. > > I believe that these issues must be addressed in an open way, and they must > be addressed as soon as possible. For now, I would encourage the Epi Info > community to be honest and open in sharing their opinions, but to share them > with the utmost "netiquette." It would be nice to have a thread titled > "Future of Epi Info" so that the others issues don't confound this > discussion. I know that I don't have time to read all the incoming material > from the LISTSERVe, but if you use this title in the Subject line, I'll keep > an eye out. We can then move the discussion along. > > Andy? Jens? Mark? Your comments please. > > Collegially, and with best wishes, > Bud Gerstman > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "syed gillani" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 5:30 AM > Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Grid and related view > > > > Dr. vitsupakorn > > > > Thanks for an honest opinion. > > I feel that either no one is being honest with the development team or > they > > have stopped listening to reason. > > We, as colleagues in the profession, respect the Epi Info development team > > very deeply for their track record. > > Epi 2000 is a different story altogether. > > Even Version 1.05 is full of problems. > > What is worse is that they have stopped responding properly. I personally > > feel that their help desk personnel are really out of their wits about > this. > > We had this Atherosclerosis data. > > First we made a questionnaire with a lot of grids. After entering all data > > we found out that analysis does not read the record at all. > > I wrote to the team and a person informed me that sure, of course, I must > be > > doing something wrong somewhere. That essentially meant 'shut up and let > us > > live in our tranquility of not knowing'. > > A generative listening and exploring attitude is not there any more. > > After a time no one will feed them back. > > The king may live happily with his clothes, ever after. > > > > Syed. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Kannika Vitsupakorn > > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:06 Shifa > > Subject: Grid and related view > > > > > > > Dear Epi 2000 users, especially to Angel Saez, > > > > > > I've been teaching data management using Epi 2000 to my students this > > > semester. I've faced many problems using it and have sent many queries > > to > > > the team developers but hardly get any reply or explanation. However, > > here's > > > are my answers to one of the many problems : > > > > > > 1. Don't use Grid as a relational view. Once you create a grid with any > > > number of fields you cannot edit any of them later on. The only way to > > edit > > > the grid is to delete the whole grid and make the new one. > > > > > > 2. You will not be able to check the tab order of fields in grid or even > > check > > > the field structures. > > > > > > 3. In Analysis you cannot relate the parent view to related view in grid > > > format. That is you cannot analyse data in grid. > > > > > > I wonder why there 's such problem. If any of you out there could help > me > > > explain these. I'm tired of writing to ask the development team in > vain. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Kannika Vitsupakorn > > > > > > \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ > > > | > > > | Asst. Prof. Kannika Vitsupakorn > > > | Department of Community Medicine > > > | Faculty of Medicine > > > | Chiang Mai University > > > | Chiang Mai 50200 > > > | THAILAND > > > | Tel. 053-945471-4 > > > | Fax 053-945476 > > > | e-mail kvitsupa@med.cmu.ac.th > > > | http://172.17.13.56/div/commed/ > > > \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ > > > --------------------------------------Oooo.-------------------------- > > > > > > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:10:55 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Bud Gerstman Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info (Re: [EPI-INFO] Grid and related view) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Syed makes a good point. The initial version of Epi Info for DOS was surely not as robust or powerful as Epi6; it took many years to achieve these improvements. Nevertheless, there are greater expectations for software today than there were nearly 2 decades ago, primarily because users are no longer restricted to the technically savvy. Bud Gerstman ----- Original Message ----- From: "syed gillani" To: Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi Info (Re: [EPI-INFO] Grid and related view) > The decision to move over to windows environment adapting MSAccess database > structure has complicated an already difficult task. > Any development effort will inevitably be judged in comparison to Epi 6, a > system that took so many years to reach the level of functionality that it > did. > Entering Windows arena has further raised expectations. Those who have > experience with MSAccess would tend to expect that kind of flexibility and > ease of use in Epi 2000 environment. To expect so from a program still being > developed is unjustified yet inevitable. > I do think that, in time, Epi 2000 will reach the same level of robustness > as Epi 6 but meanwhile, an ongoing dialogue is what is needed and issues > have to be looked into as they arise. > Frequent feedback will help the team keep pace with the demand for change in > improvement. > > Syed. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bud Gerstman > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 18:54 Shifa > Subject: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi Info (Re: [EPI-INFO] Grid and related > view) > > > > Dear All, > > > > The current issues raised by Dr. Gillani and Dr. Vitsupakorn (copied > below) > > relate to the bugs in grid and related views. For those of you now > familiar > > with the complexities of an .mdb file format, you will not find this > > entirely surprising. Jens (sp?) and Mark have responded by developing > > EpiData, a much simpler and more reliable data entry and documentation > > system that uses the .REC file legacy. EI2K's development team has taken a > > long-term view, deciding on a more complex, Microsoft-centric view of data > > structure. To me, this seems the crux of the discussion. > > > > Because the EI2K development team was looking well into the future, it has > > risked alienating Epi Info's loyal users. I do believe that this is > serious > > business, and that Dr. Gillani's reference to [the fable of] the Emperor's > > new cloths is well placed. > > > > I believe that these issues must be addressed in an open way, and they > must > > be addressed as soon as possible. For now, I would encourage the Epi Info > > community to be honest and open in sharing their opinions, but to share > them > > with the utmost "netiquette." It would be nice to have a thread titled > > "Future of Epi Info" so that the others issues don't confound this > > discussion. I know that I don't have time to read all the incoming > material > > from the LISTSERVe, but if you use this title in the Subject line, I'll > keep > > an eye out. We can then move the discussion along. > > > > Andy? Jens? Mark? Your comments please. > > > > Collegially, and with best wishes, > > Bud Gerstman > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "syed gillani" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 5:30 AM > > Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Grid and related view > > > > > > > Dr. vitsupakorn > > > > > > Thanks for an honest opinion. > > > I feel that either no one is being honest with the development team or > > they > > > have stopped listening to reason. > > > We, as colleagues in the profession, respect the Epi Info development > team > > > very deeply for their track record. > > > Epi 2000 is a different story altogether. > > > Even Version 1.05 is full of problems. > > > What is worse is that they have stopped responding properly. I > personally > > > feel that their help desk personnel are really out of their wits about > > this. > > > We had this Atherosclerosis data. > > > First we made a questionnaire with a lot of grids. After entering all > data > > > we found out that analysis does not read the record at all. > > > I wrote to the team and a person informed me that sure, of course, I > must > > be > > > doing something wrong somewhere. That essentially meant 'shut up and let > > us > > > live in our tranquility of not knowing'. > > > A generative listening and exploring attitude is not there any more. > > > After a time no one will feed them back. > > > The king may live happily with his clothes, ever after. > > > > > > Syed. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Kannika Vitsupakorn > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:06 Shifa > > > Subject: Grid and related view > > > > > > > > > > Dear Epi 2000 users, especially to Angel Saez, > > > > > > > > I've been teaching data management using Epi 2000 to my students this > > > > semester. I've faced many problems using it and have sent many > queries > > > to > > > > the team developers but hardly get any reply or explanation. However, > > > here's > > > > are my answers to one of the many problems : > > > > > > > > 1. Don't use Grid as a relational view. Once you create a grid with > any > > > > number of fields you cannot edit any of them later on. The only way > to > > > edit > > > > the grid is to delete the whole grid and make the new one. > > > > > > > > 2. You will not be able to check the tab order of fields in grid or > even > > > check > > > > the field structures. > > > > > > > > 3. In Analysis you cannot relate the parent view to related view in > grid > > > > format. That is you cannot analyse data in grid. > > > > > > > > I wonder why there 's such problem. If any of you out there could > help > > me > > > > explain these. I'm tired of writing to ask the development team in > > vain. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > Kannika Vitsupakorn > > > > > > > > \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ > > > > | > > > > | Asst. Prof. Kannika Vitsupakorn > > > > | Department of Community Medicine > > > > | Faculty of Medicine > > > > | Chiang Mai University > > > > | Chiang Mai 50200 > > > > | THAILAND > > > > | Tel. 053-945471-4 > > > > | Fax 053-945476 > > > > | e-mail kvitsupa@med.cmu.ac.th > > > > | http://172.17.13.56/div/commed/ > > > > \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ > > > > --------------------------------------Oooo.-------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:26:43 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Bud Gerstman Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giles Crane" To: Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi Info > Very sensible comments from Jamie Hocking. Indeed. . . > Going from ASCII files to MDB files may make > sense to a WINDOWS network engineer, but not > to someone doing Public Health and dealing with > agency personnel who wish to have access to the package. > Try looking into and .MDB file with WordPad or EPED. > I hear about trying to fit EPI 2000 table output > and html output onto a page. The VisData utility is quite good. > Sometimes I wonder who was at that meeting in Atlanta > about the future of EPI-INFO. Bit of a scorcher, but I would have to agree that EI2K has not met expectations. > Start with the simple, and build upon results. Sound philosophy. > Field work will continue--not everyone will live > in cubbies connected by fiber optics and supported > by private contractors at public expense. Laptops will continue to become more powerful, though. > The future sometimes turns out a bit different > from the forecasts of technologists. Ain't it the truth. Bud Gerstman ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:54:45 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Andriamahenina Ramamonjisoa Subject: Unsubsribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0A09A.EED63F80" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0A09A.EED63F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SIGNOFF andryan@syfed.refer.mg ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0A09A.EED63F80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C0A09B.198E38E0-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:55:36 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Leona Bassein Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info In-Reply-To: <852569FF.0058BBFC.00@smta00.hc-sc.gc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I use Epi6 for small to medium projects on a 386: it will run on almost any computer and allows unfunded projects to start up and then have something to show when they look for support. It can also be used in old computers people might have at home, to input data in a convenient place a bit at a time; the data can then be assembled. Leona Bassein, Bologna, Italy ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:36:33 +0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Mark Myatt Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info In-Reply-To: <001d01c0a023$32fb3f80$44f16fcf@dell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Dear All, You have probably already seen the collective response of the EpiData team to the 'Future of EpiInfo' thread. I thought that I should give you my personal response ... EpiInfo 2000 does not work. To get EpiInfo 2000 to work will require a lot of time, money, and effort. When (if) EpiInfo 2000 does work it will not be "EpiInfo" but something completely different bearing the name "EpiInfo". EpiInfo 2000 will never be able to run on minimally specified Win 9x machines. CDC should cease development of EpiInfo 2000 and start work on EpiInfo v7.xx for Windows (EI7W). EI7W would be a port of EpiInfo v6.xx to the Windows environment. We are already well on our way to providing replacements for the ENTER, CHECK, IMPORT, EXPORT, VALIDATE, REC2QES, and MERGE module with our EpiData project (www.epidata.dk). We can replace STATCALC and EPITABLE with EpiCalc 2000 (www.myatt.demon.co.uk). That only leaves the data-analysis modules to develop. MVAWIN and KMWIN (the packages that do logistic regression and survival analysis in Epi2000 but actually work with .REC rather than .MDB files) are almost ready ... they need porting to 32-bit Windows and some work on the help system to be ready. That leaves EPINUT, CSAMPLE, and ANALYSIS to port. We can rely on the EpiInfo v6.xx components as these modules are developed. Development of EPINUT and CSAMPLE could be delayed leaving only a single program (ANALYSIS) to develop. Given that CDC already has the code for these programs in a format that can be used in Borland Delphi it should be possible to get working versions out pretty soon. Another solution would be to implement data-analysis by embedding an open source system such as R in a friendly user interface. EI7W is already nearer completion than the EpiInfo 2000 project and that EI7W represents the best solution achievable in a reasonable time frame. If CDC are unwilling or unable to develop EI7W then they should release the entirety of the EpiInfo v6.xx source code under an open source license and let the EpiInfo user community get on with the job of producing an EpiInfo v7.xx for Windows. Let us stop wasting time! Mark -- Mark Myatt ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:41:48 +0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Mark Myatt Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Scott wrote: >I would just like to add that after EpiData 1.3 was produced with the >Rebuild, Validate, and Stata Export functions properly working, I felt that >EpiData was ready to go for our purposes of data entry of population survey >questionnaires. We are now in version 1.5 which is available for download from: http://www.epidata.dk > I took it to Africa last month on a CD that contained Epi >Info 2000, Epi 6, and other items. I worked with our data entry >staff/managers to install all of it, and gave brief introductions on the new >programs. > >For these colleagues in developing countries who were already familiar with >Epi 6 to some degree, their eyes really lit up as they explored EpiData. >They understood how the software worked very quickly, and I was impressed >with how EpiData very much teaches itself. This was our intention ... EpiInfo for Windows. > I think that EI2K still has a >lot to offer now and in the future--it's just that EpiData for now provides >a smoother transition into the windows environment. The use of Comment >Legal to export as value labels is brilliant, and once converted to Stata I >can convert it to anything else using StatTransfer. With a well-written >questionnaire and data entry program in place, it's possible to produce an >almost-clean and instantly analyzable dataset with EpiData. I recommend it >to those who do most of their analysis with high-end statistical software >such as SPSS, Stata, etc. and are looking for a solid, yet easy-to-use data >entry program--it's public domain status is great plus. > >I think this program is a real winner. Congratulations to the EpiData >development team. Thank you for your kind comments. Mark -- Mark Myatt ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:52:47 +0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sven Trelle Organization: FSP BIOGUM Subject: chi square/ RxC Table MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo EPI-INFO List, I am not an experienced user of EpiInfo 2000. I would like to make a chi square test on a table with 4 rows and 4 columns (2 variables with 4 levels). On page 233 of the EpiInfo 2000 Manual it is said that Analysis could provide a chi square test on such a table ("When a table has more than 2 rows and 2 columns, Analysis will only provide a chi square test"). But when I try it (command: "TABLES") Analysis only provides a contingency table not a chi square test. No error message appears. Can anybody help me? Thanks Sven Trelle ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:10:27 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Mikanatha, Nkuchia" Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info (CDC's Global Health Odyssey) Comments: cc: "gfj0@cdc.gov" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Your experience attest to the fact that people with ideas is what we need in epidemiology rather than newer software or computers. Software or computers are tools like paper and pencils. I do not see epi info being ready for archives for several years. For the sake of history, are all versions of epi info and first generation computers on display at the CDC's Global Health Odyssey? Nkuhia Nkuchia M. M'ikanatha, DrPH, MPH Communicable Disease Surveillance Epidemiologist Division of Communicable Diseases Bureau of Epdidemiology Pennsylvania Department of Health 2635 Paxton Street Harrisburg, PA 17111 Phone: (717) 787 3350 Fax (717) 722 6975 Email: mailto:nmikanatha@state.pa.us -----Original Message----- From: Leona Bassein [mailto:bassein@ORSOLA-MALPIGHI.MED.UNIBO.IT] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 2:56 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi Info I use Epi6 for small to medium projects on a 386: it will run on almost any computer and allows unfunded projects to start up and then have something to show when they look for support. It can also be used in old computers people might have at home, to input data in a convenient place a bit at a time; the data can then be assembled. Leona Bassein, Bologna, Italy ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:05:23 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sarah Knowlton Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jamie, I only got to your response this morning and I just wanted to say thank y= ou for the information. I think I'll just stick to my drop down legal list and give = up on figuring out a way to create an uncomplicated combo box in Epi6. Thanks for all your help! Sarah Jamie Hockin wrote: > Nicely put, Bud. > > I think that the legacy data format of Epi6 has a long life, especially= among > those who work in field conditions or with minimal technical support. A= lthough > computers have far surpassed what Andy Dean and others dreamed of when = they > started the EpiInfo project, some of the other conditions they had have= not: > removable diskette storage is generally limited to 1.44MB diskettes > > Binding Epi2000 to the Access engine seemed like a good idea because it= gives > (potentially) the power of a trusted relational database at no cost to = the user. > However, it seems to me that the people having problems with Epi6 were = those > developing surveillance systems or complex databases. This is a lot eas= ier to do > in Access directly, once you take the time to learn how to establish va= lidity > checks on the data. In my experience, analysis of such data sets involv= es > manipulation of the data out of the relations and into a simple matrix = anyway. > What those system development people really need is a robust database m= anagement > software (Access, Approach, etc) and they should put out the small amou= nt of > money they need to get it. Then they need a robust analysis package tha= t will do > the right analyses (i.e. what Epi6 could do) and that is the real stren= gth of > what the EpiInfo team have created. > > For those of us who teach for field use or anyone just trying to manage > reasonable data sets, Epi6 was great. We are probably going with EpiDat= a when we > teach our incoming class this summer, as the data entry and validation = are > really quite nice and Jens, et al have added some obvious functions tha= t were > missing from Epi6. > > We can still run Epi6, so remains the analysis software of choice (i.e.= free and > does what an epidemiologist expects). We'll probably install Epi2000 on= our > field laptops also, and teach people how to import .rec files, to take = advantage > of the menued analysis (when it starts working cleanly) and EpiMap - th= e best > part of Epi2000. We have lots of power and hard drive in the laptops, b= ut I > won't be encouranging any of our field epidemiologists to e-mail me .md= b files > over phone lines from the field. > > Jamie Hockin, MD, MSc > Jamie_Hockin@hc-sc.gc.ca > > Director, Public Health Training and Applications, Centre for Surveilla= nce > Coordination > Population and Public Health Branch, Health Canada > > Directeur, Formation et outils pour la sant=E9 publique, Centre de la c= oordination > de la surveillance > Direction g=E9n=E9rale de la sant=E9 de la population et de la sant=E9 = publique, Sant=E9 > Canada > > Bud Gerstman wrote: > Dear All, > > The current issues raised by Dr. Gillani and Dr. Vitsupakorn (copied be= low) > relate to the bugs in grid and related views. For those of you now fami= liar > with the complexities of an .mdb file format, you will not find this > entirely surprising. Jens (sp?) and Mark have responded by developing > EpiData, a much simpler and more reliable data entry and documentation > system that uses the .REC file legacy. EI2K's development team has take= n a > long-term view, deciding on a more complex, Microsoft-centric view of d= ata > structure. To me, this seems the crux of the discussion. > > Because the EI2K development team was looking well into the future, it = has > risked alienating Epi Info's loyal users. I do believe that this is ser= ious > business, and that Dr. Gillani's reference to [the fable of] the Empero= r's > new cloths is well placed. > > I believe that these issues must be addressed in an open way, and they = must > be addressed as soon as possible. For now, I would encourage the Epi In= fo > community to be honest and open in sharing their opinions, but to share= them > with the utmost "netiquette." It would be nice to have a thread titled > "Future of Epi Info" so that the others issues don't confound this > discussion. I know that I don't have time to read all the incoming mate= rial > from the LISTSERVe, but if you use this title in the Subject line, I'll= keep > an eye out. We can then move the discussion along. > > Andy? Jens? Mark? Your comments please. > > Collegially, and with best wishes, > Bud Gerstman -- Sarah Knowlton Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:56:38 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Freund, Robert-Jean" Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, Thanks to Mark to have clearly made the difference between the EpiInfo = 6.xx family that runs nicely on small computers and other projects that need = more ressources. Many people need in developped countries (at the local level) a = powerful software that uses minimal computer ressources ; this is of course = valid in most international health projects in under developped countries. I agree with Mark that efforts should be done for the first family = (simple and powerful software let say EI7W like Mark) For more sophisticated information systems, Access could be used for = data collection, and data analysis can be easily done with SAS, SPSS, BMDP, = or STATA etc... Personally I use a lot the Epiglue facilities for developping menus and integration in the Windows system (call to Excel, Word, IE5....) So I = think useful to get such facilities in EI7W Analysis provides 2 facilities for epi surveillance : REPORT and data agregation facilities I also think useful to get them in the port to Windows Robert J.FREUND Epidemiologiste, Professeur Co-Translator in french = of Epi5 and 6 Ecole Nationale de la Sante Publique Av Prof Leon Bernard 35043 RENNES-Cedex France tel 33(0)2 99 02 28 62 fax 33(0)2 99 02 26 23 =20 email ensp: rjfreund@ensp.fr http://www.ensp.fr international = web mail : rfreund@voila.fr =20 =20 > -----Message d'origine----- > De: Mark Myatt [SMTP:mark@MYATT.DEMON.CO.UK] > Date: mardi 27 f=E9vrier 2001 10:37 > =C0: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Objet: Re: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi Info >=20 > Dear All, >=20 > You have probably already seen the collective response of the EpiData > team to the 'Future of EpiInfo' thread. I thought that I should give = you > my personal response ... >=20 > EpiInfo 2000 does not work. >=20 > To get EpiInfo 2000 to work will require a lot of time, money, and > effort. >=20 > When (if) EpiInfo 2000 does work it will not be "EpiInfo" but = something > completely different bearing the name "EpiInfo". >=20 > EpiInfo 2000 will never be able to run on minimally specified Win 9x > machines. >=20 > CDC should cease development of EpiInfo 2000 and start work on = EpiInfo > v7.xx for Windows (EI7W). EI7W would be a port of EpiInfo v6.xx to = the > Windows environment. >=20 > We are already well on our way to providing replacements for the = ENTER, > CHECK, IMPORT, EXPORT, VALIDATE, REC2QES, and MERGE module with our > EpiData project (www.epidata.dk). >=20 > We can replace STATCALC and EPITABLE with EpiCalc 2000 > (www.myatt.demon.co.uk). >=20 > That only leaves the data-analysis modules to develop. >=20 > MVAWIN and KMWIN (the packages that do logistic regression and = survival > analysis in Epi2000 but actually work with .REC rather than .MDB = files) > are almost ready ... they need porting to 32-bit Windows and some = work > on the help system to be ready. >=20 > That leaves EPINUT, CSAMPLE, and ANALYSIS to port. >=20 > We can rely on the EpiInfo v6.xx components as these modules are > developed. >=20 > Development of EPINUT and CSAMPLE could be delayed leaving only a = single > program (ANALYSIS) to develop. Given that CDC already has the code = for > these programs in a format that can be used in Borland Delphi it = should > be possible to get working versions out pretty soon. Another solution > would be to implement data-analysis by embedding an open source = system > such as R in a friendly user interface. >=20 > EI7W is already nearer completion than the EpiInfo 2000 project and = that > EI7W represents the best solution achievable in a reasonable time = frame. >=20 > If CDC are unwilling or unable to develop EI7W then they should = release > the entirety of the EpiInfo v6.xx source code under an open source > license and let the EpiInfo user community get on with the job of > producing an EpiInfo v7.xx for Windows. >=20 > Let us stop wasting time! >=20 > Mark >=20 >=20 > -- > Mark Myatt ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:51:41 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Yoon, Steven S" Subject: On future of Epi Info from Epi Info Development Team MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear colleagues, We appreciate the involvement of the public health community in making Epi Info into a product that is used by many public health professionals from around the world. Contrary to how it may appear, the Epi Info Development Team monitors this newsgroup. We have tended to stay out of discussions in the listserv unless they were related to specific technical issues or bugs and get in touch with the author directly. However, perhaps we should be more active in our participation, like the EpiData team. There has been a thread on the listserv dealing with the future of Epi Info. This week, we are having a focus group with participants from around the world in Atlanta. The subjects of discussions are Simplicity and Integration. We hope to have some guidance in how the next version of Epi Info should be developed with these two goals in mind. We are logging user concerns and suggestions on the listserv and helpdesk, and they, too, will be considered in the design process. The jump from Epi 6 (DOS) to Epi Info 2000 has been a large one, not without pain and difficulty. We realize that running Epi Info 2000 may be beyond the capabilities of many users, and we recommend that those users continue with Epi 6 (DOS). On the other hand, Epi Info 2000 will continue to be enhanced and debugged, and for those users that need the capabilities of Epi Info 2000, it is a fine tool. We appreciate all the comments and solutions to problems that are posted on the listserv. We are working on developing a FAQ and an "intelligent" database for queries, and will contact some of you for assistance. Please continue to stay active and participate in the development of what is arguably one of the most successful public health computer software efforts in the world. Steven S. Yoon, ScD, MPH Deputy Epi Info Development Team CDC 770-488-8490 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:36:58 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Ted Donnelly Subject: Epi Info 2000 define, assign, recode Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am an experienced EpiInfo 6 user but new to to Epi Info 2000 I have brought ~8000 ambulance runs from motor vehicle crashes into MS = Access 97. Using Epi Info 2000 Analysis on the Access 97 table, I = encounter some problems with define, assign and recode. I have included = some code at the end of the message I have a numeric variable Age. =20 Variable Age_type has the following values: 0 years 1 months 2 days There are about 50 cases in my data set whose age is given in months or = days. When I try to create a variable Age_yrs (age in years) making ages = in months or days =3D 0, it comes out as a text variable (I want it to be = numeric) I want to create age groups so that I can make cross tables with other = variables. 1. when I define a variable Age5gp, I cannot recode Age to Age5gp I tried to assign a value to age5gp but that became the = permanent value. The Epi Info 2000 manual refers us to another manner of = recoding in the How To section but I didn't find that. Thank you=20 Ted Donnelly Public Health Epidemiologist Office of Health Statistics Rhode Island Dept of Health (401)222-5142 TedD@doh.state.ri.us READ 'C:\MYDOCU~1\DB\TEDSCAN2.MDB':mvruns select age_type =3D 0 means age select select age_type > 0 tables age age_type select define age_yrs if age_type > 0 then assign age_yrs =3D 0 else assign age_yrs =3D age end freq age_yrs [here no 0's come through so I know there is a problem = because there are some infants in the data set] define age5gp recode age_yrs age5gp 0 - 9 =3D "< 10" 10 - 14 =3D "10-14" 15 - 19 =3D "15-19" 20 - 24 =3D "20-24" 25 - 29 =3D "25-29" 30 - 39 =3D "30-39" 40 - 49 =3D "40-49" 50 - 59 =3D "50-59" 60 - 69 =3D "60-69" 70 - 79 =3D "70-79" 80 - HIVALUE =3D "80 +" else =3D "missing" end freq age5gp [error message] ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:50:11 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Robert W. Baer, Ph.D." Subject: Future of Epi Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bud Gerstman commented: ------------------------------ I'm hoping some EI2K supporters will take some counter position to help balance the argument. ------------------------------ The dynamics of "change" are such that much of the discussion about the future of Epi Info revolves around the same issues that always spring up. The discussion to date reminds me much about the discussion that occurred when Microsoft first introduced the Windows 3.1 user interface. For each of us the best time to take the plunge will differ. Don't move ahead until the time is right for you. I am NOT a long time Epi Info 6 user with vast amounts of surveillance data to port, and thousands of users to retrain. If I were, I would CERTAINLY sound more like many on this list serve who are in that boat. However, given that Epi Info 6 still exists, and the Epi Data Team has voluntarily made dramatic stides at supporting a transition strategy, there is certainly no mandate to suddently abandon your legacy surveillance system if your cost/benefit postition is not yet ready. To those in this position, I say carry-on. You are doing the right thing, and you owe a debt of gratitude to Jens and Mark for carrying part of your burdon out of their own personal committment to their own legacy projects. Give back to the Epi Info 6 community if you are capable to pay back those who have gone before you. That said, I think we as a community of "freeware" users are making a huge mistake to think what we use today is all we could ever want or need. We must somewhere deep inside recognize that change goes on. Computing, Epidemiological tools, and public health statistics are all evolving sciences. One of you already pointed out the tremendous contrbution that Epi Map in Epi Info 2000. In this world of global positioning satellites, this one module alone will make huge contributions that were unthinkable when the first concepts of Epi Info 6 were being developed by Andy and associates. Epi Info 2000 IS in its infancy. It is a mistake to kill the baby because it does not "run" when it is 18 months old. The trade-off is growth potential versus backwards compatibility. It would seem that an Epi Data piece coming from the CDC would have made a more graceful transition. But come on, why are we complaining? We have a fine group of generous people who have given us Epi Data anyway. The CDC team is pointing us at a longer term future. If Epi Info 6 helps you further Public Health in the world, by all means use it. Just don't make this an us versus them fight. This is not in your own long-term self-interest. We all stand to win by any team (CDC or Epi Data or any of the rest of you) who has a vision of making more powerful tools to help us do our jobs. We MUST not expect perfection from the start; we must expect a sincere effort to move forward, and we must give back to the effort. I have used Epi Info 2000 for some months now, and like many of you have encountered the shortcomings of infancy. However, I want to go on record as supporting the concept and strongly support the CDC team for their effort. My guess is that any tool as well-embraced as Epi Info 6 has a lot of life left (we don't kill our elder statesmen), and that is good. My guess is also that 20 years from now (even in the remotest field site on earth) about as many people will use 386 computers as use punch cards today! We will expect some sort of database engine under our software (whether MS Jet engine or something else). It is right to begin developing toward that need, so that in the year 2020, potential Epi Info 2020 users can defend Epi Info 2000 the way we defend Epi Info 6 right now. Data connectivity may be measured by sending .rec files as email attachments today, but in 20 years we will be operating directly on shared databases at unimaginable bandwidths from even the most remote corners of the earth. Development towards this vision must start now. Robert Baer, Ph.D. Director of Education Technology Kitksville College of Osteopathic Medicine ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:50:07 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Charity Uman Subject: epi6 error message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01C0A0B3.6E1601A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C0A0B3.6E1601A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings- I'm using Epi6.04b-c. I've got it on 2 different computers and am experienceing problems with the Enter program on both computers. On one computer I get a "Runtime Error 200 at 29E5:11BD" when I click on "Enter data". It happens everytime and brings me back to the Epi6 menu. = I tried it again in MS-Dos mode, but got the same error. "Enterx" also = gives an error "Runtime Error 200 at 000B:1753" and after several attempts, = the program goes into protected mode. On the other computer, I can enter data, but then either the computer crashes or once I close the enter program, it won't let me back in to = add more data. It says "record to long. program halting". Then yesterday, = my questionaire suddenly changed from words to symbols. I closed and = re-opened the .qes file and it was back to words. However, sometime later, while = in "Enter", the screen suddenly went to a variety of colors with what = appeared to be the symbols in the background. I restaretd everything and it = seemed ok. But then, when I went back into "Enter" the computer suddenly = showed "C:Batch {something...can't recall} missing" and repeated it like it was = in a terminal loop. Nothing worked to get out of it, except to turn the computer off and on. This last problem occured once when I was in the = enter program and once when I was reading the manual trying to figure out what = was going on. From here, I turned it off and went for a long walk. Any thoughts or suggestions?? Charity Uman ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C0A0B3.6E1601A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings-
I'm using Epi6.04b-c. I've got it on 2 = different=20 computers and am
experienceing problems with the Enter program on = both=20 computers.

On one computer I get a "Runtime Error 200 at = 29E5:11BD" when=20 I click on
"Enter data". It happens everytime and brings me = back to the=20 Epi6 menu. I
tried it again in MS-Dos mode, but got the same=20 error. "Enterx" also gives
an error "Runtime Error 200 at = 000B:1753"=20 and after several attempts, the
program goes into protected = mode.

On=20 the other computer, I can enter data, but then either the = computer
crashes or=20 once I close the enter program, it won't let me back in to add
more=20 data. It says "record to long. program halting". Then = yesterday,=20 my
questionaire suddenly changed from words to symbols. I closed and=20 re-opened
the .qes file and it was back to words. However, = sometime=20 later, while in
"Enter", the screen suddenly went to a variety of = colors with=20 what appeared
to be the symbols in the background. I restaretd=20 everything and it seemed
ok. But then, when I went back into = "Enter"=20 the computer suddenly showed
"C:Batch {something...can't recall} = missing" and=20 repeated it like it was in
a terminal loop. Nothing worked to = get out=20 of it, except to turn the
computer off and on. This last = problem=20 occured once when I was in the enter
program and once when I was = reading the=20 manual trying to figure out what was
going on. From here, I = turned it=20 off and went for a long walk.

Any thoughts or=20 suggestions??

Charity Uman
------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C0A0B3.6E1601A0-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:15:54 +0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Mark Myatt Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info In-Reply-To: <2A9ED4399CCAD411904C00508BB3D8EE03AC94@mercure.ensp.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Robert You write: >Personally I use a lot the Epiglue facilities for developping menus and >integration in the Windows system (call to Excel, Word, IE5....) So I think >useful to get such facilities in EI7W The Epi2000 menu system is very similar to EpiGlue. It has the same basic syntax plus some graphics and the ability to add buttons. That's another bit of EI7W already written. >Analysis provides 2 facilities for epi surveillance : REPORT and data >agregation facilities >I also think useful to get them in the port to Windows I agree ... REPORT is one of the best bits of ANALYSIS. Mark -- Mark Myatt ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:56:12 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Bennett, Diane" Subject: FW: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Robert Baer wrote: Data connectivity may be measured by sending .rec files as email attachments today, but in 20 years we will be operating directly on shared databases at unimaginable bandwidths from even the most remote corners of the earth. Development towards this vision must start now. Fair enough, but until the world is on a shared server, I need to be able to email files to be used on lousy computers in far-off countries and nearby state health departments, receive files by email, and look at them quickly, to make minor quick changes in Word Pad (or EPED). This has been true for numerous projects in each of the four different medical epidemiologist's positions, in four different centers, that I've held at CDC, and I've seen no sign that these requirements will be less relevant in the next five years. Epidata is a great addition since many of the people we newly train in epidemiology are used to a Windows environment now, but I haven't yet encountered an epi situation in my work life where 2K would be useful. I'm willing to believe it will eventually become easier to train computer novices in Epi2K, and that there won't be so many lumps and bumps in analysing data, but until the files are easier to deal with, Epi2K won't be a practical option for many (most?) CDC epidemiologists. (Perhaps, Bud, this statement will draw more 2K enthusiasts out of their fiber-optic-connected cubbies and into this discussion?) I hope that the focus group discussions apparently going on this week include a few people who do epidemiological field work under typical field conditions, not only in developing countries but in state and local health departments all over the U.S. Di Bennett Diane Bennett, MD MPH Surveillance and Epidemiology Branch, DTBE CDC MS E-10, Atlanta GA 30333 tel: 1-404-639-5349 fax: 1-404-639-8959 email: dib1@cdc.gov ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:48:08 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Richard A Phaneuf Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9f._:_[EPI-INFO]_chi_square/_RxC_Table?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Did you try setting your statistics option to a higher setting ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:55:20 +0200 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: MATT EKRON Subject: SIGNOFF EPI-INFO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_9EC535D4.E081EED1" This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_9EC535D4.E081EED1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline ** Reply Requested When Convenient ** SIGNOFF EPI-INFO e-mail :Matt@ermagri1.Agric.za Tel: 017 - 8192076 ext 234 (w) 8195251 (h) Fax: 017- 8192971 Cell: 0828509176 snail mail: Private Bag X 9078 Ermelo 2350 --=_9EC535D4.E081EED1 Content-Type: text/x-vcard Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="MATT EKRON.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-GWTYPE:USER FN:MATT EKRON TEL;WORK:01781-92076 ORG:;AGRICULTURE TEL;PREF;FAX:01781-92072 EMAIL;WORK;PREF;NGW:MATT N:EKRON;MATT TITLE:DR X-GWUSERID:MATT END:VCARD --=_9EC535D4.E081EED1-- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 07:17:25 +0530 Reply-To: harinder Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: harinder Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Exactly. I have been an epi info user since ver 3 in 1991. It did and still does basic data management and the second half is the analysis. Now migrating to windows based epi2k has had its teething problems. Epi Info ver 604 has undergone a lot of testing and correction since 1991 when ver 3 was made available and the wish list has expanded and fulfilled. The epi team had future vision - trying to link data base (Access) and analysis in one package. remember Windows ME does not have DOS support so probably cannot run epi 604 and below. As the PC community will change over to Win ME and its next ver in 2-3 years time, DOS support maynot be there at all after about 3-5 years (foresight of epi info team) I feel epi2k will also mature into a full fledged stats prog given time. secondly, as possibly the epiinfo project may have limited funds, what is required is that for one or two years some professional programmer's help may be sought to fine tune the EPI2000K software and integrate it with Access (presuming Office 97 and 2000 will be the common platform available 5 years hence in 80 % of PC). else, the EPI2000K can be developed as platform independent and database independent programme. Thirdly, what we need is DE prog with validations (epidata or any simpler windows prog) and lets integrate a data analysis prog with facilty of importing/exporting various file formats HS Ratti, MD ratti@vsnl.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Jamie Hockin To: Sent: 26 February, 2001 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi Info Nicely put, Bud. I think that the legacy data format of Epi6 has a long life, especially among those who work in field conditions or with minimal technical support. Although computers have far surpassed what Andy Dean and others dreamed of when they started the EpiInfo project, some of the other conditions they had have not: removable diskette storage is generally limited to 1.44MB diskettes Binding Epi2000 to the Access engine seemed like a good idea because it gives (potentially) the power of a trusted relational database at no cost to the user. However, it seems to me that the people having problems with Epi6 were those developing surveillance systems or complex databases. This is a lot easier to do in Access directly, once you take the time to learn how to establish validity checks on the data. In my experience, analysis of such data sets involves manipulation of the data out of the relations and into a simple matrix anyway. What those system development people really need is a robust database management software (Access, Approach, etc) and they should put out the small amount of money they need to get it. Then they need a robust analysis package that will do the right analyses (i.e. what Epi6 could do) and that is the real strength of what the EpiInfo team have created. For those of us who teach for field use or anyone just trying to manage reasonable data sets, Epi6 was great. We are probably going with EpiData when we teach our incoming class this summer, as the data entry and validation are really quite nice and Jens, et al have added some obvious functions that were missing from Epi6. We can still run Epi6, so remains the analysis software of choice (i.e. free and does what an epidemiologist expects). We'll probably install Epi2000 on our field laptops also, and teach people how to import .rec files, to take advantage of the menued analysis (when it starts working cleanly) and EpiMap - the best part of Epi2000. We have lots of power and hard drive in the laptops, but I won't be encouranging any of our field epidemiologists to e-mail me .mdb files over phone lines from the field. Jamie Hockin, MD, MSc Jamie_Hockin@hc-sc.gc.ca Director, Public Health Training and Applications, Centre for Surveillance Coordination Population and Public Health Branch, Health Canada Directeur, Formation et outils pour la sant� publique, Centre de la coordination de la surveillance Direction g�n�rale de la sant� de la population et de la sant� publique, Sant� Canada Bud Gerstman wrote: Dear All, The current issues raised by Dr. Gillani and Dr. Vitsupakorn (copied below) relate to the bugs in grid and related views. For those of you now familiar with the complexities of an .mdb file format, you will not find this entirely surprising. Jens (sp?) and Mark have responded by developing EpiData, a much simpler and more reliable data entry and documentation system that uses the .REC file legacy. EI2K's development team has taken a long-term view, deciding on a more complex, Microsoft-centric view of data structure. To me, this seems the crux of the discussion. Because the EI2K development team was looking well into the future, it has risked alienating Epi Info's loyal users. I do believe that this is serious business, and that Dr. Gillani's reference to [the fable of] the Emperor's new cloths is well placed. I believe that these issues must be addressed in an open way, and they must be addressed as soon as possible. For now, I would encourage the Epi Info community to be honest and open in sharing their opinions, but to share them with the utmost "netiquette." It would be nice to have a thread titled "Future of Epi Info" so that the others issues don't confound this discussion. I know that I don't have time to read all the incoming material from the LISTSERVe, but if you use this title in the Subject line, I'll keep an eye out. We can then move the discussion along. Andy? Jens? Mark? Your comments please. Collegially, and with best wishes, Bud Gerstman ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:09:32 -0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Lucas Gonzalez Santa Cruz Subject: Future of Epi Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, EpiInfo users and developers! I'm glad to see this discussion unfold. Very constructive! Makes one wonder what will happen next! PREDICTIONS: >As the PC community will change over to Win ME and >its next ver in 2-3 years time Personally, I have a problem with predictions like this. Will we "change over to Win ME and its next version"? Will we use Linux or other "free/open source" software? Will we be using something different? A mixture of the above and more? And then what? TWO ELEMENTS OF OPENNESS: Some people in the free/open source arena suggest that the main thing is to keep two things "open": data formats, and the source of the programs. I feel this two elements of "openness" may be even more important than - or something to go hand in hand with - the Simplicity and Integration talked about by Steven Yoon of the CDC EpiInfo Team. What can be done, and how, is a matter of will, design, and resources. In this list, most of us can help only with the "design" part - even if it's only asking questions! (NB: I'm not an expert in any of the things I mention, so perhaps I use a little too much imagination. But I think the issues are real.) OPEN DATA FORMAT: I think .REC is a more "open format" than it's counterpart in EI2K. If you want encryption as an extra layer, then EpiData is doing that (if I understand it correctly). If this "old but usable" data format has limitations, perhaps we should look towards XML or something of that sort. What are the limitations of this .REC format? Why was the change to the EI2K data format desirable? What other "possibilities" should we take into account when thinking about data formats? Personally, I like "text" formats that can be processed in a "piped" way. Could we discuss this openly? OPEN SOURCE / FREE SOFTWARE: I asked a couple of years ago if the source of EI6 could be released as "free software", perhaps under a GPL or LGPL license. Apparently, it can't be done because EpiInfo6 source code links to some closed-source libraries. How many libraries? Can they be replaced with open-source libraries? Can any one have a look at the source, possibly with a non-disclosure agreement, and write or pay for "open" alternatives? (Yes, you can pay a programmer to write code that is then "free" as in "free speech". The "free" in "free software" doesn't always mean "free as in free beer".) Is this feasible and reasonable? I would have liked to add a function in ANALYSIS.EXE (or in analysis.pas if it is written in Pascal) to compute the MEDIAN of a few data items. I can't program in Pascal, but I would have asked for it and maybe some people would have done it - or I might have micro-payed for it together with others. Mark Myatt suggests that what we need for an EI7Win (/EI7Linux/EI7etc?) is mainly ANALYSIS. (With the new Pascal compilers I've heard there shouldn't be much problem, but I'm not an expert at all. I would expect interest and action in making things easy for recompilation for other platforms.) I would add EpiMap for Windows (?) - with a strong emphasis in "open" (data formats and program code) as something badly needed. Perhaps an independent EpiGlue - if it can be made independent (by CDC or, if it is too much hassle and it can be done, by others?). Maybe some other things? (I don't want to dream now of "cooperation software" which is something general; or perhaps there are some specifics to Public Health? This would be another thread altogether.) Just my two pesetas - er, sorry, euros. Lucas - Lucas Gonzalez - Epidemiologic Surveillance - Canary Islands - Spain - ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:34:22 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: cgreen Subject: Future of Epi-Info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In response to the vigorous discussion over the past few days regarding the future of Epi-Info, I have the following comments and observations. We teach Epi-Info in our graduate Epidemiology course here at the University of Manitoba (Winnipeg, Man. Canada). This year we taught Epi-Data ( for data capture) and Epi-Info 6.04 (for data Analysis). We did not use Epi-Info 2000 for several reasons. Epi-Info 2000 is quite slow on large data sets, is still quite buggy, and has a much steeper learning curve (especially in the area of data capture). This hybrid mix of software worked very well and students were quickly able to get up to speed using both pieces of software. One of my major concerns about the new Epi-Info 2000 is that it is very slow in analyzing large data sets. In my work, I regularly analyze and restructure data sets of 250,000 records plus using Epi-Info 6.04. In attempting to do the same thing with Epi-Info 2000, I have run into real problems. A data run that might take 60 seconds in Epi-Info 6.04 will take 15 - 20 minutes in Epi-Info 2000, or will not run at all. For myself, Epi-Info 6.04 is a dependable and efficient workhorse which Epi-Info 2000 cannot replace at this time. As a result, I cannot in good faith teach Epi-Info 2000 to our Epidemiology students since I am not confident it will meet their needs in the field. I really agree with Mark Myatt on the need to port the ANALYSIS module to Windows. I would like to add that I feel it is also important that the current version of Epi-Info 6.04 be maintained in its current form (i.e. upgraded so that all modules continue to operate in emerging operating systems). Analysis is an especially important module - for those of us who do a lot of interactive coding and data restructuring within Analysis, it would be a shame to lose the ability to quickly analyze and restructure data sets using keyboard commands (as opposed to the less efficient windows based mouse commands). I applaud the work of the Epi-Info 2000 development team in moving us forward into the Windows environment and into more robust file formats; however, until Epi-Info 2000 has the full functionality and dependability of Epi-Info 6.04, I feel we must explore alternative approaches which ensure our ability to capture and analyze public health data. Chris Green Manitoba Health Epidemiology Unit Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:45:47 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Freund, Robert-Jean" Subject: Problems with ENTERX ENTER modules using 800mhz +processors Comments: To: "Groupe Epi-Info (Adresse de messagerie)" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Is there a solution to make work ENTERX and ENTER on 800 mhz + processors and avoid the run time error message ? Is this the general rule or are there some lucky people in the list that can run nicely ENTERX and ENTER at 800mhz + ?? Thanks Robert Robert J.FREUND Epidemiologiste, Professeur Ecole Nationale de la Sante Publique Av Prof Leon Bernard 35043 RENNES-Cedex France tel 33(0)2 99 02 28 62 fax 33(0)2 99 02 26 23 email ensp: rjfreund@ensp.fr http://www.ensp.fr international web mail : rfreund@voila.fr ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:51:18 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Giles Crane Subject: Re: Problems with ENTERX ENTER modules using 800mhz +processors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A few weeks ago, Dr. Andy Dean notified the user group that the EPI6 development team has replacement modules which will run on "faster" processors. Also, he mentioned that EPI6 runs on 733 MHz PCs. Perhaps you should request these modules from EPI-INFO support if you are having difficulty on processors 800+ MHz. I have verified that EPI6 will run on a 700 MHz Celeron using Windows Me. Giles Crane, M.Phil., MPH Research Scientist & Statistician 609 292-8012, -5666 glc@doh.state.nj.us ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:00:37 +0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Mark Myatt Subject: Problems with ENTERX ENTER modules using 800mhz +processors In-Reply-To: <2A9ED4399CCAD411904C00508BB3D8EE03AC9A@mercure.ensp.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Freund, Robert-Jean writes: >Is there a solution to make work ENTERX and ENTER on 800 mhz + processors >and avoid the run time error message ? > > >Is this the general rule or are there some lucky people in the list that can >run nicely ENTERX and ENTER at 800mhz + ?? > Try creating PIF files with AUTO memory allocation HMA=ON and Protected=ON ... this has solved some other Turbo Pascal problems on fast machines. Can't test it myself as I only run a 233MHz machine here. Mark -- Mark Myatt ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:06:29 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Freund, Robert-Jean" Subject: Re: Problems with ENTERX ENTER modules using 800mhz +p rocessors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Mark I'll try and tell the list if it works Robert Robert J.FREUND Epidemiologiste, Professeur =20 Ecole Nationale de la Sante Publique =20 Av Prof Leon Bernard 35043 RENNES-Cedex France tel 33(0)2 99 02 28 62 fax 33(0)2 99 02 26 23 =20 email ensp: rjfreund@ensp.fr http://www.ensp.fr =20 international web mail : rfreund@voila.fr =20 =20 > -----Message d'origine----- > De: Mark Myatt [SMTP:mark@MYATT.DEMON.CO.UK] > Date: mercredi 28 f=E9vrier 2001 17:01 > =C0: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Objet: [EPI-INFO] Problems with ENTERX ENTER modules using 800mhz > +processors >=20 > Freund, Robert-Jean writes: > >Is there a solution to make work ENTERX and ENTER on 800 mhz + = processors > >and avoid the run time error message ? > > > > > >Is this the general rule or are there some lucky people in the list = that > can > >run nicely ENTERX and ENTER at 800mhz + ?? > > >=20 > Try creating PIF files with AUTO memory allocation HMA=3DON and > Protected=3DON ... this has solved some other Turbo Pascal problems = on > fast machines. Can't test it myself as I only run a 233MHz machine = here. >=20 > Mark >=20 >=20 > -- > Mark Myatt ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:23:10 +0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sven Trelle Organization: FSP BIOGUM Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=5BEPI=2DINFO=5DR=E9f=2E?= : [EPI-INFO] chi square/ RxC Table MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes it is on "advanced" but nothing changed Sven Trelle Richard A Phaneuf schrieb: > Did you try setting your statistics option to a higher setting ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:29:41 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "R.P. GILIBERT" Organization: chu Lyon Subject: A solution to the PIII/IV speed problem with Epi6 (was : [EPI-INFO] Problems with ENTERX ENTER modules using 800mhz +processors) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A1BC.CBF79D60" C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A1BC.CBF79D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the zip attached you will find a freeware I use for running old .com or .exe dos programs witch give 'run time error 200' with high speed cpu. Never had to try it with Epi but it should work if the problem is really of the speed. The command for running Epi-Info will look like : MOSLO.COM /20 c:\EPI\EPI6.EXE The parameter /20 (ie % of actual cpu speed I think) can be ajusted but in my experience it works best. Plz tell me if it works for your fast PC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Freund, Robert-Jean" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 4:45 PM Subject: [EPI-INFO] Problems with ENTERX ENTER modules using 800mhz +processors > Is there a solution to make work ENTERX and ENTER on 800 mhz + processors > and avoid the run time error message ? > > > Is this the general rule or are there some lucky people in the list that can > run nicely ENTERX and ENTER at 800mhz + ?? > > > Thanks > > > Robert > > > Robert J.FREUND Epidemiologiste, Professeur > Ecole Nationale de la Sante Publique > Av Prof Leon Bernard 35043 RENNES-Cedex France > tel 33(0)2 99 02 28 62 fax 33(0)2 99 02 26 23 > email ensp: rjfreund@ensp.fr http://www.ensp.fr > international web mail : rfreund@voila.fr > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0A1BC.CBF79D60 Content-Type: application/x-compressed; name="moslo132.zip" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="moslo132.zip" 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Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Jamie Hockin Subject: Re: Problems with ENTERX ENTER modules using 800mhz +processors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=TAXpqXVHEfudxfc0cp0ZFjZh3TJYhA3lasqgmaUkZJZIi5Wxg6VOnzOG" --0__=TAXpqXVHEfudxfc0cp0ZFjZh3TJYhA3lasqgmaUkZJZIi5Wxg6VOnzOG Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Epi6 Windows ME? Wait a minute - most of us have been thinking that we won't be able to = run DOS software on WinME. The life insurance premium on Epi6 just got a lot lo= wer. Jamie Hockin, MD, MSc Director, Public Health Training and Applications, Centre for Surveilla= nce Coordination Population and Public Health Branch, Health Canada Directeur, Formation et outils pour la sant=E9 publique, Centre de la c= oordination de la surveillance Direction g=E9n=E9rale de la sant=E9 de la population et de la sant=E9 = publique, Sant=E9 Canada Giles Crane on 28/02/2001 10:51:18 AM Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group = To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV cc: (bcc: Jamie Hockin) Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Problems with ENTERX ENTER modules using 800mh= z +processors = --0__=TAXpqXVHEfudxfc0cp0ZFjZh3TJYhA3lasqgmaUkZJZIi5Wxg6VOnzOG Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline A few weeks ago, Dr. Andy Dean notified the user group that the EPI6 development team has replacement modules which will run on "faster" processors. Also, he mentioned that EPI6 runs on 733 MHz PCs. Perhaps you should request these modules from EPI-INFO support if you are having difficulty on processors 800+ MHz. I have verified that EPI6 will run on a 700 MHz Celeron using Windows Me. Giles Crane, M.Phil., MPH Research Scientist & Statistician 609 292-8012, -5666 glc@doh.state.nj.us --0__=TAXpqXVHEfudxfc0cp0ZFjZh3TJYhA3lasqgmaUkZJZIi5Wxg6VOnzOG-- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:10:06 -0300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Enrique Finetti Subject: Re: Future of Epi Info In-Reply-To: <3A9BC233.6D4E2F95@cancerboard.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use epiinfo since 1994. I'm not a epidemiologist, I work in pediatric, neonatal and maternal hospital. We developed a system in epi5 and then upgrade whit epi6 for the patient records. The output include hospital statistics, administrative reports, mortality, productivity, some epidemiological curves, financial calculation, risk calculation and so on. It run properly and relatively fast in a LAN. I received epi2000 enthusiastically, but after a some trial, I desisting to follow it... I try Epi Data, and I think that is more adequate to upgrade our job. But yet not allow relational features, I hope the new version. Enrique Finetti Medico Asistente de UCI pedi=E1trica Hospital Materno Infantil Salta - Argentina sapsalta@ciunsa.edu.ar fliafinetti@sinectis.com.ar ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:15:24 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Robert W. Baer, Ph.D." Subject: Epi 6 Command line and MS OSes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Epi6 Windows ME? >Wait a minute - most of us have been thinking that we won't be able to run DOS >software on WinME. The life insurance premium on Epi6 just got a lot lower. While it is true that Windows ME no longer has DOS (16-bit kernel code), it does have an equivalent of the Windows NT command shell so that there are not really issues from the point of view of being able to run command line based applications. Although the command shell shares much with the OLD DOS kernel, it is not identical and things glued together to work within the DOS environment can break when migrating to Windows ME. With luck most of what you do from the DOS command prompt will be unchanged. By the way, the lifetime of Windows ME, itself, will probably not be all that long because it is mostly just an improved Windows 98. It is the last of breed (Windows 95, 98, ME). The ultimate migration path Microsoft is following still seems to lead to an operating system based on Windows NT technologies (i.e., the successor to Windows 2000). I think this will be called Windows XP. For what it's worth, Windows 2000 also supports a command line utility that will probably handle Epi Info 6x. Ironically, although the advanced statistics modules from Epi Info 2000 (16 bit code, I think) runs fine on Windows ME, there are some problems in Windows 2000 (at least in my hands). For those of you with Epi6 legacy data or using Epi Data, you will be glad to find out that these problems are unrelated to the reading of .rec files. They seem more related to the way Win2K interprets long file names versus 8.3 file names when EI2K creates temporary .rec files. If you start with .rec files the statistics modules themselves operate properly. EI2K, itself, has modules constructed for the command shell (statcalc), for 16-bit Windows (MVAWIN) and for 32-bit Windows (Analysis). The older parts of EI2K will do no better or worse than EI6 unless the operating systems provide for backward compatibility. Luckily they mostly do. The old saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it" applies to Epi 6. It would be silly to stop using it until there are things that YOU want to do that it won't do. What other life insurance policy is relevant anyway? [I'm sure you don't trade your car ever 10 years if its still running :-).] Rob ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:35:54 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Rohrer, James" Subject: Re: On future of Epi Info from Epi Info Development Te am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The discussion about the Future of Epi info 2000 has been fascinating because it reveals that different users have different priorities. For myself, data entry is not the issue; we can't get data into the computer in several ways. Instead, what I like is the Analysis module and Statcalc. The people out in the field around here have Windows on their computers but they have not invested in modern stat packages because they are novices. if I was to suggest an 'improvement' in epi info 2000 it would be to drop the redundant elements (data entry) and keep the Analysis, MVAWIN, and Statcalc. Since I am used to windows programs crashing now and then, I don't have any problem recommending and teaching Analysis to beginner analysts. -----Original Message----- From: Yoon, Steven S [mailto:say7@CDC.GOV] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 9:52 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] On future of Epi Info from Epi Info Development Team Dear colleagues, We appreciate the involvement of the public health community in making Epi Info into a product that is used by many public health professionals from around the world. Contrary to how it may appear, the Epi Info Development Team monitors this newsgroup. We have tended to stay out of discussions in the listserv unless they were related to specific technical issues or bugs and get in touch with the author directly. However, perhaps we should be more active in our participation, like the EpiData team. There has been a thread on the listserv dealing with the future of Epi Info. This week, we are having a focus group with participants from around the world in Atlanta. The subjects of discussions are Simplicity and Integration. We hope to have some guidance in how the next version of Epi Info should be developed with these two goals in mind. We are logging user concerns and suggestions on the listserv and helpdesk, and they, too, will be considered in the design process. The jump from Epi 6 (DOS) to Epi Info 2000 has been a large one, not without pain and difficulty. We realize that running Epi Info 2000 may be beyond the capabilities of many users, and we recommend that those users continue with Epi 6 (DOS). On the other hand, Epi Info 2000 will continue to be enhanced and debugged, and for those users that need the capabilities of Epi Info 2000, it is a fine tool. We appreciate all the comments and solutions to problems that are posted on the listserv. We are working on developing a FAQ and an "intelligent" database for queries, and will contact some of you for assistance. Please continue to stay active and participate in the development of what is arguably one of the most successful public health computer software efforts in the world. Steven S. Yoon, ScD, MPH Deputy Epi Info Development Team CDC 770-488-8490 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 07:30:02 -0300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: andres bolzan Subject: RV: Re: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- From: andres bolzan To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 6:44 PM Subject: RE: Re: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi Info > Don=B4t forget that epi6 was made on DOS enviroment. This is a good rea= son to > explain why epi6 runs properly in almost every computer. The developmen= t of > programs that should be run in windows enviroment needed a new concepti= on in > terms of several maters. I am agree with the notion that epi 2k is real= ly > different from the last DOS version, the epi6. I =B4ve used epi since t= he > begining of =B490s, when the 5 edition was the new. Is real that when I tried > to handle the 2k version as the epi6 version, things began to complica= te. > In fact, I cannot use the 2k version like the epi6 version. > > I am persuaded that some problems with the people who developed the DOS > version have been happened, then the development of epidata began. > > Anyway, the efforts of these people are quite usefull for us, the > epidemiologist. Cheers for the epidata new version! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Leona Bassein > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:55 AM > Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Future of Epi Info > > > > I use Epi6 for small to medium projects on a 386: it will run on almo= st > any > > computer and allows unfunded projects to start up and then have something > > to show when they look for support. > > > > It can also be used in old computers people might have at home, to in= put > > data in a convenient place a bit at a time; the data can then be > assembled. > > > > Leona Bassein, > > Bologna, Italy > > > > > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:18:15 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Bennett, Diane" Subject: The future of epi-info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I second all the different motions about the high priority that should be given to getting Analysis into the Windows framework. People used to more complex software are often taken aback at its flexibility and utily, and, as numerous people have noted, it's easy to teach to novices, though it would be easier still if it were in Windows. Hadn't meant to skimp on the importance of this in making my remarks about the importance of facilitating file creation, data entry, and sending of files for people with less- than-start-of-the-art computer set-ups. (And on that subject, no one else need point out to me that some people in many countries have really great computers. Yes, I know about the well-funded projects in Botswana, and for that matter, my counterpart in Moscow has a much better computer set-up than I have. However, most of the people in the forty-odd oblasts who enter and send in surveillance data to him, and occasionally like to do their own analyses, are not in the same fiber-optically-connected boat. Neither are many of the people in the state and county health departments around the U.S. with whom I'm working currently, many of whom are still on 386s [even if the director has a pentium]. So please give us a real Epi-info in Windows: Analysis and reporting in a Windows format. For everything else, nearly, there's Epi-Data. I don't leave home without it.) Di Diane Bennett, MD MPH Surveillance and Epidemiology Branch, DTBE CDC MS E-10, Atlanta GA 30333 tel: 1-404-639-5349 fax: 1-404-639-8959 email: dib1@cdc.gov From: L-Soft list server at CDC (1.8d) [LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 11:01 AM To: Steven S Yoon Subject: File: "EPI-INFO LOG0102C" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:43:07 +0400 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Dr.Samir Shah" Subject: Weekdays from date field. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear colleagues, I have a data in .rec file about Road Traffic accidents(RTA). A date field is available for all past four years data. However I am interested in finding association of RTA with weekend. Can anybody suggest me the way to do that? I use either EPIINFO6 or EPIINFO2000. Thanks in advance for your time and help. Regards, Samir. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:26:45 -0400 Reply-To: omaldona@entelchile.net Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Omar Maldonado A." Subject: Re: Weekdays from date field. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Dr. Samir Shah I think the best way to do this is a related file with a date classification. I am sending to your private mail an Excel file as an example. This file contains 3 fields: a) Date: This must be the same format and name on your TRA file b) Week Day: The code for each date from Excle function b) Class: The classification of the code date as "WEEKEND" and "LAB DAY" Make coincide the names of the columns with the names of fields of your RTA file and SAVE AS like DBF format. When you relate the 2 files, you can obtain the new field CLASS for each date. Hope this helps! Omar Maldonado A. Matr�n - Epidemi�logo Servicio de Salud Atacama http://www.saludatacama.cl > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Epi Info Discussion Group [mailto:EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV]En > nombre de Dr.Samir Shah > Enviado el: Jueves, 15 de Febrero de 2001 04:43 > Para: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Asunto: [EPI-INFO] Weekdays from date field. > > > Dear colleagues, > I have a data in .rec file about Road Traffic accidents(RTA). A date field > is available for all past four years data. > However I am interested in finding association of RTA with weekend. Can > anybody suggest me the way to do that? > I use either EPIINFO6 or EPIINFO2000. > Thanks in advance for your time and help. > Regards, > Samir. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:11:24 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Matt Snell Subject: Re: Weekdays from date field. Comments: To: drsamir@OMANTEL.NET.OM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dr. Shah: I have wanted to, but not been able to do what your asking only in = Epi/Info. If you have EXCEL available, one way to get around your problem = is to export your file to EXCEL (since it's a .REC file, you'll have to = export it to an intermediate format [.DBF], [.WKS], and then into EXCEL). = Once in EXCEL, you can use the WEEKNUM function in a new field (call it = DAYOFWEEK) which will return a number (1-7) representing the day of week = for the RTA date field (1=3Dsunday, 2=3Dmonday, etc...). You can then = take the file back into Epi/Info, and in ANALYSIS.... DEFINE WEEKEND # IF DAYOFWEEK=3D1 OR DAYOFWEEK=3D7 THEN WEEKEND=3D0 ELSE/ WEEKEND=3D1 Perform your RTA association using WEEKEND I would imagine other spreadsheet programs will have the WEEKNUM or = similar function available. hope this helps, matt Matt Snell, MPH Epidemiologist St. Luke's Regional Medical Center Boise, ID 83712 snellm@slrmc.org >>> "Dr.Samir Shah" 02/15/01 01:43AM >>> Dear colleagues, I have a data in .rec file about Road Traffic accidents(RTA). A date field is available for all past four years data. However I am interested in finding association of RTA with weekend. Can anybody suggest me the way to do that? I use either EPIINFO6 or EPIINFO2000. Thanks in advance for your time and help. Regards, Samir. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:08:48 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Richard A Phaneuf Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9f._:_[EPI-INFO]_Weekdays_from_date_field.?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Samir You might try this try this stratergy. Define a variable to count the number of days beteween the first Saturday of the year and your date, using the days function. Then divide that resulth by 7 then take the mudulus of that and if it is < 2 I think the result might work. Do not take my word for it but test it. Good luck Richard Phaneuf Canada ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 08:30:03 +1030 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Owen, Dorothy (DHS)" Subject: Re: Weekdays from date field. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Dr. Shah, this program worked well for me when I used Epi6 Define Stdate let stdate="01/01/19" define elapsdays ###### let elapsdays = (injurydate - stdate) define elapsweeks #####.#### let elapsweeks = (elapsdays/7.) define remainder ##.#### let remainder = elapsweeks - trunc(elapsweeks) define weekday if remainder > .56 and remainder < .58 then weekday = "1_Sun" if remainder > .41 and remainder < .43 then weekday = "7_Sat" if remainder > .27 and remainder < .29 then weekday = "6_Fri" if remainder > .13 and remainder < .15 then weekday = "5_Thurs" if remainder > - .01 and remainder < .01 then weekday = "4_Wed" if remainder > .84 and remainder < .86 then weekday = "3_Tues" if remainder > .70 and remainder < .72 then weekday = "2_Mon" Hope this helps Dorothy Owen -----Original Message----- From: Dr.Samir Shah [mailto:drsamir@OMANTEL.NET.OM] Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2001 19:13 To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Weekdays from date field. Dear colleagues, I have a data in .rec file about Road Traffic accidents(RTA). A date field is available for all past four years data. However I am interested in finding association of RTA with weekend. Can anybody suggest me the way to do that? I use either EPIINFO6 or EPIINFO2000. Thanks in advance for your time and help. Regards, Samir. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:58:19 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Moynagh, Karen" Subject: EPIDATA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hello I am currently using epidata for a breastfeeding survey. I am trying to determine the exact age of the baby (in days) when solids/formula etc.. were introduced to the baby. I have the baby's date of birth & information on when the item was introduced (for example: baby was 2 months old). Is there a way to calculate the exact number of days given this information; I know I could convert weeks -to months- to days, but I was looking for an exact number of days given the baby's date of birth (can the calculation take into account the number of days per month etc?) I would appreciate any assistance. Karen Moynagh ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:31:30 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Richard A Phaneuf Subject: try using the days function Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Karen Moynagh define days2solids * if fistrsolids is the date of first solids days2solids = DAYS(dob,firstsolids) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:48:12 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Jamie Hockin Subject: Re: Weekdays from date field. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Dorothy Owen is on the right track, but as Richard Phaneuf points out, = this can be simpler. * to check day of week of variable MVADATE, which is define saturday global immediate let saturday =3D "01/05/1980" * pick a Saturday that falls before any of your dates define dayofwk # define weekend # dayofwk =3D mvadate - saturday - 7*((mvadate - saturday) div 7) * if you prefer saturday to be day 7, then * recode dayofwk 0=3D7 * and adjust the following statements appropriately recode dayofwk to weekend 0,1 =3D 1 else =3D 0 * weekend will be 1 for a weekend, 0 otherwise * if you need the day of the week as text define weekday ___ recode dayofwk to weekday 0=3DSat 1=3DSun 2=3DMon 3=3DTue 4=3DWed 5=3DT= hu 6=3DFri Jamie Hockin, MD, MSc Jamie_Hockin@hc-sc.gc.ca Tel: 613 957-1764 Fax: 613 941-6028 Director, Public Health Training and Applications, Centre for Surveilla= nce Coordination Population and Public Health Branch, Health Canada Directeur, Formation et outils pour la sant=E9 publique, Centre de la c= oordination de la surveillance Direction g=E9n=E9rale de la sant=E9 de la population et de la sant=E9 = publique, Sant=E9 Canada Hello Dr. Shah, this program worked well for me when I used Epi6 Define Stdate let stdate=3D"01/01/19" define elapsdays ###### let elapsdays =3D (injurydate - stdate) define elapsweeks #####.#### let elapsweeks =3D (elapsdays/7.) define remainder ##.#### let remainder =3D elapsweeks - trunc(elapsweeks) define weekday if remainder > .56 and remainder < .58 then weekday =3D "1_Sun" if remainder > .41 and remainder < .43 then weekday =3D "7_Sat" if remainder > .27 and remainder < .29 then weekday =3D "6_Fri" if remainder > .13 and remainder < .15 then weekday =3D "5_Thurs" if remainder > - .01 and remainder < .01 then weekday =3D "4_Wed" if remainder > .84 and remainder < .86 then weekday =3D "3_Tues" if remainder > .70 and remainder < .72 then weekday =3D "2_Mon" Hope this helps Dorothy Owen -----Original Message----- From: Dr.Samir Shah [mailto:drsamir@OMANTEL.NET.OM] Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2001 19:13 To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Weekdays from date field. Dear colleagues, I have a data in .rec file about Road Traffic accidents(RTA). A date fi= eld is available for all past four years data. However I am interested in finding association of RTA with weekend. Can= anybody suggest me the way to do that? I use either EPIINFO6 or EPIINFO2000. Thanks in advance for your time and help. Regards, Samir. = ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:40:55 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Friberg, Ingrid (DHS-DCDC)" Subject: Year 2000 in EpiInfo 6 and SAS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, I have a dataset which is in EpiInfo and I have been converting it for use in SAS, so I never actually use EpiInfo. Unfortunately, my dates include both year 2000 and 1999 and when I convert this to SAS it makes the 2000s into 1900s. Is there anything simple that I can do to the EpiInfo file to make it think that my years are 2000 and NOT 1900? I have to do calculations and need the years to be correct. Thanks from the novice, Ingrid Ingrid Friberg, MHS Epidemiologist Infant Botulism Treatment and Prevention Program California Department of Health Services 2151 Berkeley Way, Room 506 Berkeley, CA 94704 Phone: 510-540-2646; Fax: 510-540-3205 email: ifriberg@dhs.ca.gov ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 07:00:55 +0300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: syed gillani Subject: Re: Weekdays from date field. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Dr.Shah, Matt Snell has come up with the right answer. The steps are like this. **1. Run export.exe in the Epi6 directory. **2. In the "Input File Name" field, enter your .rec file name, and in the "Output Format" field, choose dBASE 4. **3. The output file name is entered automatically, so chose ok. **4. Now you have a .dbf file in the Epi6 directory. **5. Start Excel ( I have tested it on Excel 97 but it should work with Excel 2000 as well ). **6. Go to File > Open and then in the Open dialogue box, choose "Files of type" as "dBase Files" and in the "Look in" field, move to Epi6 and choose your previously created .dbf file. **8, Excel imports the file. Suppose column A is your date field. **8. You will need two empty columns next to it, so select all columns except A and move them two columns to the right. Now you have empty columns B and C. Give them Column headings that you think appropriate for WEEKDAY and WEEKEND variables in you .rec file that you will create after manipulation in Excel. **9. Row 1 should have the column headings, so select cell B2 and in the formula bar, click on =. **10. The formula should look like =WEEKDAY(A2,1). This will give you the weekday number for the dates, Sunday being 1 and Saturday 7. **11. Next, copy this formula to all the cells in the column B (holding the small black square in the lower left corner of a select cell and dragging it down copies the formula). **12. Next select C2 and click on the = in the formula bar. **13. In this cell, your formula will be =IF(MOD(B2,6)=0,"Y","N"), supposing that you weekend day is Friday (day 6). **14. What happens is that if the value of the weekday, calculated in column B, is divisible by 6 then the corresponding cell in column C is set to Y else it is set to N. This gives you the equivalent of an EpiInfo Yes/No field. **15. Copy the formula in the whole of the C column as you did for B. **16. Next, save the file as .dbf file. **17. Start Import.exe in Epi6 directory. **18. In the "Input Format", chose dBASE , enter the Input and Output files names and the choose OK. **19. Now you have a new .rec file that has a fields for WEEKDAY and WEEKEND. WEEKDAY variable is numerical and WEEKEND a Yes/No type. **20. In analysis then, you could use Tables command to see any relations. **21. If you want to set both Thursdays and Fridays as weekend then you will need to have another appropriately named column in which Thursdays should be marked as weekends too (=IF(MOD(B2,5)=0,"Y","N"). Then, in analysis you could define another string variable with filed width one only and set it to Y if any of the previous two variables is Y else set it to N. Further suggestions/comments are welcome. Good Luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr.Samir Shah To: Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:43 Shifa Subject: [EPI-INFO] Weekdays from date field. > Dear colleagues, > I have a data in .rec file about Road Traffic accidents(RTA). A date field > is available for all past four years data. > However I am interested in finding association of RTA with weekend. Can > anybody suggest me the way to do that? > I use either EPIINFO6 or EPIINFO2000. > Thanks in advance for your time and help. > Regards, > Samir. > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 08:40:44 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Jose Lozano Subject: Re: Year 2000 in EpiInfo 6 and SAS In-Reply-To: <"/GUID:QazkTN0M5QUQ5QjY4NzFFMA"@MHS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0CHi, Ingrid: > I have a dataset which is in EpiInfo and I have been converting it fo= r use > in SAS, so I never actually use EpiInfo. Unfortunately, my dates inc= lude > both year 2000 and 1999 and when I convert this to SAS it makes the 2= 000s > into 1900s. Is there anything simple that I can do to the EpiInfo fi= le to > make it think that my years are 2000 and NOT 1900? I have to do > calculations and need the years to be correct. Let me suggest the following SAS code: (Date of Birth is DOB) DOB =3D DMY(day(DOB), month(DOB), (years(DOB) + (years(DOB)=3D1900)*100= )); I think it should work. Check it and let me know if if produces an erro= r line. Best Regards Jose Lozano Servicio de Epidemiolog=EDa Consejer=EDa de Sanidad y Bienestar Social Junta de Castilla y Le=F3n ESPA=D1A email: Jose.Lozano@csbs.jcyl.es ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:59:09 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Jens M. Lauritsen (JeL@sus.fyns-amt.dk)" Subject: Re: Calculation on days etc. (Epidata) In-Reply-To: <200102160500.f1G506t21828@appleton.uni2.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Calculating during dataentry is relatively easy. Make a integer field of at least length 5 : qes: date1
(or date2
Countday ##### Todaycnt ##### The reason for the length 5 is technical, see explanation. The calculations in EpiData are unfortunately higly sensible to differences in calculations of reals and integers of this sort. We will try to fin a way to simplify this difference which is irrelevant to the user. Explanation: now EpiData calculates the difference in terms of a real number. Any "integer" at least of size 5 are calculated as real, therefore it works with countday ##### but not with countday ###. If you want to have the result in a ### integer enclose in the checkfile the calculation within the trunc() function. chk: integer length of calculated fields is 5 or more date2 after entry *number of days btw two dates: LET countday=date2 - date1 *number of days from today to an earlier day let todaycnt=Today - Date(1,10,2000) end end 'with integer length 3 the lines would be: LET countday=trunc(date2 - date1) * you might also wish to make the calculated days "noenter" fields. For the question asked yesterday just put in the date of birth and the date (exact or approximate) into the formulae above. If you have grouped data instead I think counting days could be problematic - you would then assume larger precision in the calculation than your data has. E.g. if you collect grouped data like "At which age was it introduced" <1 month 1-2 months etc. Then I would rather use a comment legal. If you can collect data by date it would be more precise. Re: weekend - day of week Release 1.4 of EpiData to be released within a few weeks contains two functions for the check file useful in relation to the question. DayOfWeek(date) returning the day number of a date. Week(date) returning the week number of the date This could be applied in the check file, but if you have entered the data it can be difficult to apply it to all records. A later version of EpiData will most likely include an "apply check file for this field all records" command which would solve your problem. We will inform the list when (and if) we implement such a command. Note that first day of week is monday in Denmark (Europe) and possibly sunday in other regions. Regards Jens Lauritsen Kindly Jens M. Lauritsen, Senior Registrar, PhD. Fyns Amt (County of Fyn), Health Service Division e-mail: JM.Lauritsen@dadlnet.dk For info on EpiData (dataentry), see: Http://www.epidata.dk ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:22:00 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: ikhp0@BLUES.UAB.ES Subject: Re: Year 2000 in EpiInfo 6 and SAS MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi ingrid: Perhaps you have wrong definition of the YEARCUT option. You can try this: data _null_; call symput("FDATE", put("&sysdate"d, year4.)); run; %let YEARCUT=%eval(&FDATE+10); If the problem is in the yarcut option, I suppose that it will resolve your issue. Regards. Josep Roca ---------------- Josep Roca Epidemiologia Hospital U Germans Trias i Pujol Ctra Canyet s/n 08916 Badalona, Barcelona Spain Tel: +34 93-497-88-82 FAX: +34 93-497-88-43 jroca@ns.hugtip.scs.es http://CC.uab.es/~ikht1/ http://www.ernestlluch.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 07:58:52 EST Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "A. Sentilhes" Subject: (sans sujet) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello evrybody Is there a way to select for a variable its minimal value? Thank you, Dr Sentilhes ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:05:15 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Mikanatha, Nkuchia" Subject: Management of Data Analysis Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear EPI Discussion Group Participants and Support: Is there a way to have these discussions filed for easy access when needed. Unless I am working on an procedure, it is hard to recall from the discussion how to address problems encountered. A simple filling could group FAQ by topics and suggested answers. I am planning to start printing and filling the emails but I can see the limitations of such a method. Thanks, Nkuchia Nkuchia M. M'ikanatha, DrPH, MPH Communicable Disease Surveillance Epidemiologist Division of Communicable Diseases Bureau of Epdidemiology Pennsylvania Department of Health Harrisburg, PA 17111 Phone: (717) 787 3350 Fax (717) 722 6975 Email: mailto:nmikanatha@state.pa.us -----Original Message----- From: syed gillani [mailto:syed@OGERTEL.COM] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:01 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Weekdays from date field. Dear Dr.Shah, Matt Snell has come up with the right answer. The steps are like this. **1. Run export.exe in the Epi6 directory. **2. In the "Input File Name" field, enter your .rec file name, and in the "Output Format" field, choose dBASE 4. **3. The output file name is entered automatically, so chose ok. **4. Now you have a .dbf file in the Epi6 directory. **5. Start Excel ( I have tested it on Excel 97 but it should work with Excel 2000 as well ). **6. Go to File > Open and then in the Open dialogue box, choose "Files of type" as "dBase Files" and in the "Look in" field, move to Epi6 and choose your previously created .dbf file. **8, Excel imports the file. Suppose column A is your date field. **8. You will need two empty columns next to it, so select all columns except A and move them two columns to the right. Now you have empty columns B and C. Give them Column headings that you think appropriate for WEEKDAY and WEEKEND variables in you .rec file that you will create after manipulation in Excel. **9. Row 1 should have the column headings, so select cell B2 and in the formula bar, click on =. **10. The formula should look like =WEEKDAY(A2,1). This will give you the weekday number for the dates, Sunday being 1 and Saturday 7. **11. Next, copy this formula to all the cells in the column B (holding the small black square in the lower left corner of a select cell and dragging it down copies the formula). **12. Next select C2 and click on the = in the formula bar. **13. In this cell, your formula will be =IF(MOD(B2,6)=0,"Y","N"), supposing that you weekend day is Friday (day 6). **14. What happens is that if the value of the weekday, calculated in column B, is divisible by 6 then the corresponding cell in column C is set to Y else it is set to N. This gives you the equivalent of an EpiInfo Yes/No field. **15. Copy the formula in the whole of the C column as you did for B. **16. Next, save the file as .dbf file. **17. Start Import.exe in Epi6 directory. **18. In the "Input Format", chose dBASE , enter the Input and Output files names and the choose OK. **19. Now you have a new .rec file that has a fields for WEEKDAY and WEEKEND. WEEKDAY variable is numerical and WEEKEND a Yes/No type. **20. In analysis then, you could use Tables command to see any relations. **21. If you want to set both Thursdays and Fridays as weekend then you will need to have another appropriately named column in which Thursdays should be marked as weekends too (=IF(MOD(B2,5)=0,"Y","N"). Then, in analysis you could define another string variable with filed width one only and set it to Y if any of the previous two variables is Y else set it to N. Further suggestions/comments are welcome. Good Luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr.Samir Shah To: Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:43 Shifa Subject: [EPI-INFO] Weekdays from date field. > Dear colleagues, > I have a data in .rec file about Road Traffic accidents(RTA). A date field > is available for all past four years data. > However I am interested in finding association of RTA with weekend. Can > anybody suggest me the way to do that? > I use either EPIINFO6 or EPIINFO2000. > Thanks in advance for your time and help. > Regards, > Samir. > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:27:57 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Giles Crane Subject: Re: Weekdays from date field. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Dr. Shah and others, I suggest you use the idea of the "mod" function, which is found in algebra. * Remark: 01/01/1900 was a Monday define days ##### days = yourdate - "01/01/1900" * Definition: dayn = 1 for Monday ...,=7 for Sunday define dayn # dayn = days - 7 * (days DIV 7) + 1 * Result: Now you can use dayn to index into an array, * pick out a label, and so forth. Cordially, GLC Giles Crane, M.Phil., MPH Research Scientist & Statistician 609 292-8012, -5666 glc@doh.state.nj.us ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:48:49 EST Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "A. Sentilhes" Subject: (sans sujet) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Helo, Yes, as Mrs Knuchia, I think it would be a good idea to group FAQ topics. Probably, some questions have already been asked but is there a way to know it ? Dr Sentilhes ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:17:54 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sarah Knowlton Subject: Re: (sans sujet) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dr. Sentilhes, Are you trying to do this in your .chk file or in analysis? Lets say that the minimum value that you want is 10. In the .chk file you would write: var1 range 10 infinity (if you want the range to be between 10 and 20 then you would write: range 10 20) end if you want to select variables with a value of a minimum of 10 in Anaysis then you would type: select var1 >=10 And that's it. Hope this helps, Sarah "A. Sentilhes" wrote: > Hello evrybody > > Is there a way to select for a variable its minimal value? > Thank you, > Dr Sentilhes -- Sarah Knowlton Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:32:53 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Friberg, Ingrid (DHS-DCDC)" Subject: Re: Year 2000 in EpiInfo 6 and SAS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Jose, This solution was very good, although I had to do a few corrections to = make it actually work. The correction was just changing the order of the = month and day and calling it year instead of years. This is much easier (for = me anyway) than trying to find a fix in Epi-Info.=20 DOB =3D MDY(month(DOB), day(DOB), (year(DOB) + = (year(DOB)=3D1900)*100)); My own attempts before this were a disaster with trying to add days to = the entire function instead of just the years. I was getting stuck on the = leap year problem. Anyway this was a very easy and quick solution. THANKS!! Ingrid -----Original Message----- From: Jose Lozano [mailto:Jose.Lozano@CSBS.JCYL.ES] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:41 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Year 2000 in EpiInfo 6 and SAS =0CHi, Ingrid: > I have a dataset which is in EpiInfo and I have been converting it = for use > in SAS, so I never actually use EpiInfo. Unfortunately, my dates = include > both year 2000 and 1999 and when I convert this to SAS it makes the = 2000s > into 1900s. Is there anything simple that I can do to the EpiInfo = file to > make it think that my years are 2000 and NOT 1900? I have to do > calculations and need the years to be correct. Let me suggest the following SAS code: (Date of Birth is DOB) DOB =3D DMY(day(DOB), month(DOB), (years(DOB) + = (years(DOB)=3D1900)*100)); I think it should work. Check it and let me know if if produces an = error line. Best Regards Jose Lozano Servicio de Epidemiolog=EDa Consejer=EDa de Sanidad y Bienestar Social Junta de Castilla y Le=F3n ESPA=D1A email: Jose.Lozano@csbs.jcyl.es ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 11:52:56 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: David Raveh Subject: Re: Management of Data Analysis Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html

Dear Epi group: I have raised this issue in the past but nobody was interested. I wanted to group the ongoing discussions into topics, put them into FAQ and eventually add them respectively to Epi6 and Epi2000 manuals. I hope that people will be more interested now.

David Raveh, MD
Infectious Diseases Unit
Shaare Zedek Medical Center
Jerusalem, Israel 91031
Work fax +972 2 666 6840
Home fax +972 2 656 4448
ravehmed@hotmail.com

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>From: "Mikanatha, Nkuchia"
>Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group
>To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
>Subject: [EPI-INFO] Management of Data Analysis Questions
>Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:05:15 -0500
>
>Dear EPI Discussion Group Participants and Support:
>
>Is there a way to have these discussions filed for easy access when needed. Unless I am working on an procedure, it is hard to recall from the discussion how to address problems encountered. A simple filling could group FAQ by topics and suggested answers. I am planning to start printing and filling the emails
>but I can see the limitations of such a method.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Nkuchia
>
Nkuchia M. M'ikanatha, DrPH, MPH
>Communicable Disease Surveillance Epidemiologist
>Division of Communicable Diseases
>Bureau of Epdidemiology
>Pennsylvania Department of Health
>Harrisburg, PA 17111
>Phone: (717) 787 3350 Fax (717) 722 6975
>Email: mailto:nmikanatha@state.pa.us

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========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 16:58:29 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Eric Brenner Subject: Re: (sans sujet) In-Reply-To: <88.2784d33.27be7e0c@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The context of your question is not quite clear, but here are some thoughts.... considering for example the variable WEIGHT (say in kilograms) For data entry you can define the MINIMUM and MAXIMUM allowed values by using the CHECK program where using F1/F2 you can define Min/Max values. All these function keys do actually is write a snippet of code for your CHK file which will look like this: WEIGHT RANGE 30 90 END You can access and edit such snippets by pressing F9 when the cursor is in the WEIGHT field, or by opening your CHK file in EPED (or any other ASCII editor such as windows Notepad etc.) Alterntavelyk, if you were in ANALYSIS and were looking for the minimum value of WEIGHT in a data set with many records already entered, then: SORT WEIGHT BROWSE (or BROWSE WEIGHT V1 V2 V3 etc.) would let you see by inspection the minimum value of the WEIGHT in your data set However, if you wished to do something more complex, such as have a program which could automatically identify the minimum value of WEIGHT in a data set, and use this value automatically in another PGM file, then you would need to do something a bit more complex such as writing a little PGM file for example: READ FILE1.REC SORT WEIGHT ERASE FILE2.REC ROUTE FILE2.REC WRITE RECFILE READ FILE2 SELECT RECNUMBER = 1 (since min WEIGHT value will be in record 1 DEFINE WTMIN ### GLOBAL WTMIN = WEIGHT and you could then READ other files (e.g. even FILE1.REC again) and use the value of WTMIN for various calculations.... e.g. to see how many KG. difference there was between the WEIGHT of each observation and the minimum weight. You might have to modify or refine the code snippet I give above (I have just written this off the cuff and have not tested it) but this is the basic line of reasoning and should put you on the right track. Hope this helps. Eric Brenner ********************************** Eric Brenner, MD Medical Epidemiologist Bureau of Disease Control SC DHEC ********************************** --- "A. Sentilhes" wrote: > Hello evrybody > > Is there a way to select for a variable its minimal value? > Thank you, > Dr Sentilhes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 12:03:02 -0300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Enrique Finetti Subject: epi weeks and day of week Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_982519382==_" --=====================_982519382==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dears Abrantes and Samir: I send a file calsem.pgm attached. This file, when run in analysis, make a file calenda.rec (wait some minutes). It content the fields "dia" (day of week), "fecha" (day in question, in european date "dd/mm/yyyy"), "semana" (epi week), "aep" (epi year) and "estacion" (season in south hemispheric). The epi weeks are calculate like the CDC=B4s way. 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multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_7254821==_.ALT" --=====================_7254821==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Dr Sentilhes, Just a little thing you may need to add to the program suggested by E.=20 Brenner: if you have some missing values in your file, they will be=20 classified at the beginning of the file when it is sorted . Therefore you=20 need to eliminate them before writing the new file (see below). Hope this helps. YMP >READ FILE1.REC select weight <> . >SORT WEIGHT >ERASE FILE2.REC >ROUTE FILE2.REC >WRITE RECFILE Yves MARTIN-PREVEL, Epidemiologist Nutrition Unit (WHO Collaborating Center for Nutrition) Institut de Recherche pour le D=E9veloppement (IRD) P.O. Box 5045 34032 Montpellier Cedex 1 (France) Tel: +33 4 67 41 61 92 Fax: +33 4 67 41 63 30 http://www.mpl.ird.fr/=20 --=====================_7254821==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Dr Sentilhes,

Just a little thing you may need to add to the program suggested by E. Brenner: if you have some missing values in your file, they will be classified at the beginning of the file when it is sorted . Therefore you need to eliminate them before writing the new file (see below).

Hope this helps.

YMP

READ FILE1.REC
   select weight <> .

SORT WEIGHT
ERASE FILE2.REC
ROUTE FILE2.REC
WRITE RECFILE

Yves MARTIN-PREVEL, Epidemiologist

Nutrition Unit (WHO Collaborating Center for Nutrition)

Institut de Recherche pour le D=E9veloppement (IRD)

P.O. Box 5045

34032 Montpellier Cedex 1 (France)

Tel: +33 4 67 41 61 92    Fax: +33 4 67 41 63 30
http://www.mpl.ird.fr/ --=====================_7254821==_.ALT-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:47:14 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Franck Golliot Subject: Color in data entry sub menu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Epi users, Does anyone know how to use colors in a data entry sub menu, using epi-in= fo 604c ? I would like to assign different colors for parts of the picklist. The sub menu look like this : SERVICE CODEFIELD SERVICE1 END SERVICE1 CODEFIELD SERVICE CODES "BLOC OPERATOIRE " "=3D=3D=3D" (in red for examle) "BLOC SALLE REVEIL" BLO (in blue) "BLOC CARDIO" BCR "BLOC.ORTHOPEDIE" BOR "BLOC.PNEUMO" BPN "REANIMATION " "=3D=3D=3D" "- BLOC.VISCERAL" BVI "- BLOC.GYNECO" BGY "- BLOC.DIGESTIF" BDI "- BLOC.OBSTETRIQUE" BOB "PATATI PATATI " "=3D=3D=3D" "- BLOC.VISCERAL" BVI "- BLOC.GYNECO" BGY "- BLOC.DIGESTIF" BDI "- BLOC.OBSTETRIQUE" BOB END END Thank you for your help, ------------------------------------------------------------- Franck GOLLIOT - C.CLIN Paris-Nord Centre inter-r=E9gional de lutte contre l'infection nosocomiale Epidemiology & Statistics Officer Inter-regional center for nosocomial infection control Paris, France ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:38:38 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Yves =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin-Pr�vel?= Subject: Re: Color in data entry sub menu In-Reply-To: <001401c09b2a$7c807920$16e49d86@isdv.bhdc.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Hi Franck, In my opinon, the colors can be only changed for an entire screen. I'm=20 affraid that what you'd like to do remains not possible with Epi604c. But=20 if anybody else could give a reverse opinion (and the way to do it) I would= =20 be very happy to get it! By the way: is that possible using Epi2000? Yves MARTIN-PREVEL, Epid=E9miologiste Unit=E9 R106 'Nutrition, Alimentation, Soci=E9t=E9s' de l'IRD (Institut de Recherche pour le D=E9veloppement) BP5045 - 34032 Montpellier Cedex 1 (France) Tel: +33 (0)4 67 41 61 92 Fax: +33 (0)4 67 41 63 30 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:47:00 -0300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Enrique Finetti Subject: epi weeks and day of week Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_982691220==_" --=====================_982691220==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dears Abrantes and Samir: I send a file calsem.pgm attached. This file, when run in analysis, make a file calenda.rec (wait some minutes). 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boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C09B51.5C3D2060" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09B51.5C3D2060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear EPI Group: I am surprised that David Ravel, MD, made us an offer but we were not interested. Unless anyone has a better alternative, I would be very interested in his offer. Also, would the CDC consider a small investment which would provide an alternative lengthy discussion on a linked website? Email is great because it is widely accessible but at a relatively small cost, a discussion on web format would allow sharing of more information. Here is an example from a Swahili discussion.http://www.yale.edu/Swahili/ Thank you, Nkuchia Nkuchia M. M'ikanatha, DrPH, MPH Communicable Disease Surveillance Epidemiologist Division of Communicable Diseases Bureau of Epdidemiology Pennsylvania Department of Health Harrisburg, PA 17111 Phone: (717) 787 3350 Fax (717) 722 6975 Email: mailto:nmikanatha@state.pa.us -----Original Message----- From: David Raveh [mailto:ravehmed@HOTMAIL.COM] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 11:53 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Management of Data Analysis Questions Dear Epi group: I have raised this issue in the past but nobody was interested. I wanted to group the ongoing discussions into topics, put them into FAQ and eventually add them respectively to Epi6 and Epi2000 manuals. I hope that people will be more interested now. David Raveh, MD Infectious Diseases Unit Shaare Zedek Medical Center Jerusalem, Israel 91031 Work fax +972 2 666 6840 Home fax +972 2 656 4448 ravehmed@hotmail.com ================================================================= >From: "Mikanatha, Nkuchia" >Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group >To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV >Subject: [EPI-INFO] Management of Data Analysis Questions >Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:05:15 -0500 > >Dear EPI Discussion Group Participants and Support: > >Is there a way to have these discussions filed for easy access when needed. Unless I am working on an procedure, it is hard to recall from the discussion how to address problems encountered. A simple filling could group FAQ by topics and suggested answers. I am planning to start printing and filling the emails >but I can see the limitations of such a method. > >Thanks, > >Nkuchia > Nkuchia M. M'ikanatha, DrPH, MPH >Communicable Disease Surveillance Epidemiologist >Division of Communicable Diseases >Bureau of Epdidemiology >Pennsylvania Department of Health >Harrisburg, PA 17111 >Phone: (717) 787 3350 Fax (717) 722 6975 >Email: mailto:nmikanatha@state.pa.us _____ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09B51.5C3D2060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Dear EPI Group: I am surprised that David Ravel, MD, made us an offer but we were not interested. Unless anyone

has a better alternative, I would be very interested in his offer. Also, would the CDC consider a small investment which would provide an alternative lengthy discussion on a linked website? Email is great because it is widely accessible but

at a relatively small cost, a discussion on web format would allow sharing of more information. Here is an example from a Swahili discussion.http://www.yale.edu/Swahili/

Thank you,

Nkuchia

Nkuchia M. M'ikanatha, DrPH, MPH
Communicable Disease Surveillance Epidemiologist
Division of Communicable Diseases
Bureau of Epdidemiology
Pennsylvania Department of Health
Harrisburg, PA 17111
Phone: (717) 787 3350 Fax (717) 722 6975
Email: mailto:nmikanatha@state.pa.us

-----Original Message-----
From: David Raveh [mailto:ravehmed@HOTMAIL.COM]
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 11:53 AM
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Management of Data Analysis Questions

Dear Epi group: I have raised this issue in the past but nobody was interested. I wanted to group the ongoing discussions into topics, put them into FAQ and eventually add them respectively to Epi6 and Epi2000 manuals. I hope that people will be more interested now.

David Raveh, MD
Infectious Diseases Unit
Shaare Zedek Medical Center
Jerusalem, Israel 91031
Work fax +972 2 666 6840
Home fax +972 2 656 4448
ravehmed@hotmail.com

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>From: "Mikanatha, Nkuchia"
>Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group
>To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
>Subject: [EPI-INFO] Management of Data Analysis Questions
>Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:05:15 -0500
>
>Dear EPI Discussion Group Participants and Support:
>
>Is there a way to have these discussions filed for easy access when needed. Unless I am working on an procedure, it is hard to recall from the discussion how to address problems encountered. A simple filling could group FAQ by topics and suggested answers. I am planning to start printing and filling the emails
>but I can see the limitations of such a method.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Nkuchia
>
Nkuchia M. M'ikanatha, DrPH, MPH
>Communicable Disease Surveillance Epidemiologist
>Division of Communicable Diseases
>Bureau of Epdidemiology
>Pennsylvania Department of Health
>Harrisburg, PA 17111
>Phone: (717) 787 3350 Fax (717) 722 6975
>Email: mailto:nmikanatha@state.pa.us

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C09B51.5C3D2060-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:11:23 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Diana Echenique Subject: Re: Management of Data Analysis Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Exelent idea! What can i do to support this? Diana ***************************************** Diana Echenique, MPH Epidemiologist DHH-OPH Children's Special Health Services Voice: 504-568 8352 Fax: 504-568 7529 Email: decheniq@dhh.state.la.us=20 >>> "Mikanatha, Nkuchia" 02/20 9:25 AM >>> Dear EPI Group: I am surprised that David Ravel, MD, made us an offer but = we were not interested. Unless anyone has a better alternative, I would be very interested in his offer. Also, would the CDC consider a small investment which would provide an alternativ= e lengthy discussion on a linked website? Email is great because it is = widely accessible but at a relatively small cost, a discussion on web format would allow sharing of more information. Here is an example from a Swahili discussion.http://www.yale.edu/Swahili/=20 Thank you, Nkuchia Nkuchia M. M'ikanatha, DrPH, MPH Communicable Disease Surveillance Epidemiologist Division of Communicable Diseases Bureau of Epdidemiology Pennsylvania Department of Health Harrisburg, PA 17111 Phone: (717) 787 3350 Fax (717) 722 6975 Email: mailto:nmikanatha@state.pa.us -----Original Message----- From: David Raveh [mailto:ravehmed@HOTMAIL.COM]=20 Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 11:53 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV=20 Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Management of Data Analysis Questions Dear Epi group: I have raised this issue in the past but nobody was interested. I wanted to group the ongoing discussions into topics, put = them into FAQ and eventually add them respectively to Epi6 and Epi2000 manuals. I hope that people will be more interested now. David Raveh, MD Infectious Diseases Unit Shaare Zedek Medical Center Jerusalem, Israel 91031 Work fax +972 2 666 6840 Home fax +972 2 656 4448 ravehmed@hotmail.com=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >From: "Mikanatha, Nkuchia" >Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group >To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV=20 >Subject: [EPI-INFO] Management of Data Analysis Questions >Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:05:15 -0500 > >Dear EPI Discussion Group Participants and Support: > >Is there a way to have these discussions filed for easy access when = needed. Unless I am working on an procedure, it is hard to recall from the discussion how to address problems encountered. A simple filling could = group FAQ by topics and suggested answers. I am planning to start printing and filling the emails >but I can see the limitations of such a method. > >Thanks, > >Nkuchia > Nkuchia M. M'ikanatha, DrPH, MPH >Communicable Disease Surveillance Epidemiologist >Division of Communicable Diseases >Bureau of Epdidemiology >Pennsylvania Department of Health >Harrisburg, PA 17111 >Phone: (717) 787 3350 Fax (717) 722 6975 >Email: mailto:nmikanatha@state.pa.us=20 _____ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com=20 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:32:21 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: gerald daurat Subject: Re: Color in data entry sub menu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cher coll�gue Vous pouvez d�cider de la couleur du champ, ou de la couleur du fond, mais je ne pense pas que vous puissiez choisir la couleur d'un choix dans une liste de choix d�roulant (tel un codefield). Peut �tre aurez vous communication d'une astuce, mais �a m'�tonnerais. G�rald Daurat Montpellier Franck Golliot a �crit: > > Hi Epi users, > > Does anyone know how to use colors in a data entry sub menu, using epi-info > 604c ? I would like to assign different colors for parts of the picklist. > > The sub menu look like this : > > SERVICE > CODEFIELD SERVICE1 > END > > SERVICE1 > CODEFIELD SERVICE > CODES > "BLOC OPERATOIRE " "===" (in red for examle) > "BLOC SALLE REVEIL" BLO (in blue) > "BLOC CARDIO" BCR > "BLOC.ORTHOPEDIE" BOR > "BLOC.PNEUMO" BPN > > "REANIMATION " "===" > "- BLOC.VISCERAL" BVI > "- BLOC.GYNECO" BGY > "- BLOC.DIGESTIF" BDI > "- BLOC.OBSTETRIQUE" BOB > > "PATATI PATATI " "===" > "- BLOC.VISCERAL" BVI > "- BLOC.GYNECO" BGY > "- BLOC.DIGESTIF" BDI > "- BLOC.OBSTETRIQUE" BOB > END > END > > Thank you for your help, > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Franck GOLLIOT - C.CLIN Paris-Nord > Centre inter-r�gional de lutte contre l'infection nosocomiale > Epidemiology & Statistics Officer > Inter-regional center for nosocomial infection control > Paris, France ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 18:06:50 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Franck Golliot Subject: Re: Color in data entry sub menu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Je n'ai pas re=E7u d'astuces pour l'instant, mon probl=E8me est de propos= er un mode de saisie le plus convivial possible =E0 partir d'epi-info, sachant = que je dois utiliser des listes de codes complexes. Je souhaitais au d=E9part utiliser des menus emboit=E9s, mais impossible de param=E9trer =E7a avec = epi-info. Je vous tiens au courant si une solution m'est apport=E9e, les utilisateu= rs d'epi-info sont pleins de ressources. ----- Original Message ----- From: "gerald daurat" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Color in data entry sub menu > Cher coll=E8gue > > Vous pouvez d=E9cider de la couleur du champ, ou de la couleur du fond, > mais je ne pense pas que vous puissiez choisir la couleur d'un choix > dans une liste de choix d=E9roulant (tel un codefield). > > Peut =EAtre aurez vous communication d'une astuce, mais =E7a m'=E9tonne= rais. > > G=E9rald Daurat > > Montpellier > > Franck Golliot a =E9crit: > > > > Hi Epi users, > > > > Does anyone know how to use colors in a data entry sub menu, using epi-info > > 604c ? I would like to assign different colors for parts of the picklist. > > > > The sub menu look like this : > > > > SERVICE > > CODEFIELD SERVICE1 > > END > > > > SERVICE1 > > CODEFIELD SERVICE > > CODES > > "BLOC OPERATOIRE " "=3D=3D=3D" (in red for examle) > > "BLOC SALLE REVEIL" BLO (in blue) > > "BLOC CARDIO" BCR > > "BLOC.ORTHOPEDIE" BOR > > "BLOC.PNEUMO" BPN > > > > "REANIMATION " "=3D=3D=3D" > > "- BLOC.VISCERAL" BVI > > "- BLOC.GYNECO" BGY > > "- BLOC.DIGESTIF" BDI > > "- BLOC.OBSTETRIQUE" BOB > > > > "PATATI PATATI " "=3D=3D=3D" > > "- BLOC.VISCERAL" BVI > > "- BLOC.GYNECO" BGY > > "- BLOC.DIGESTIF" BDI > > "- BLOC.OBSTETRIQUE" BOB > > END > > END > > > > Thank you for your help, > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > Franck GOLLIOT - C.CLIN Paris-Nord > > Centre inter-r=E9gional de lutte contre l'infection nosocomiale > > Epidemiology & Statistics Officer > > Inter-regional center for nosocomial infection control > > Paris, France > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:01:26 +1300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Rupthi De Zoysa MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C09B78.489C5680" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09B78.489C5680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" just wanted to say I agree with David R's suggestion - go for it Rupthi ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09B78.489C5680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
just wanted to say I agree with David R's suggestion - go for it
Rupthi
------_=_NextPart_001_01C09B78.489C5680-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:50:25 -0400 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Angel Saez Organization: GlobalPres Subject: Grid and Related View MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C09B5D.390274E0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C09B5D.390274E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [EPI-INFO] IF conditionHi to everybody, I am new to Epi Info 2000 = and I am trying to teach myself to use the programs using the downloaded = manual. Using MakeView, after rigth-clicking on the screen you get a = field dialog box that allows you to "Create: Grid or Related View". What = are the differences between them?, besides, what are the advantages and = disadvantages of using Grids or Related views?. Do you know of any kind = of literature I should read to beter understand the proccess of creating = and analyzing relational databases in Epi Info 2000?. I thank all of you = for the help you could give me. Thanks again Angel Saez globalpres@cantv.net ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C09B5D.390274E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [EPI-INFO] IF condition
Hi to everybody, I am new to Epi Info = 2000 and I am=20 trying to teach myself to use the programs using the downloaded manual. = Using=20 MakeView, after rigth-clicking on the screen you get a field dialog box = that=20 allows you to "Create: Grid or Related View". What are the = differences=20 between them?, besides, what are the advantages and = disadvantages of=20 using Grids or Related views?. Do you know of any kind of literature I = should=20 read to beter understand the proccess of creating and analyzing = relational=20 databases in Epi Info 2000?. I thank all of you for the help you could = give me.=20 Thanks again

Angel Saez

globalpres@cantv.net

------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C09B5D.390274E0-- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:28:00 +1300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Rupthi De Zoysa Subject: Re: Grid and Related View MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C09B84.5A18B190" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09B84.5A18B190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Angela, I haven't used Grid, but I find Related views are useful when you have multiple pieces of related information to store concerning one aspect on the main questionnaire which you don't need to see when you go to list all the information concerning the original database -----Original Message----- From: Angel Saez [mailto:globalpres@CANTV.NET] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:01 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Grid and Related View Hi to everybody, I am new to Epi Info 2000 and I am trying to teach myself to use the programs using the downloaded manual. Using MakeView, after rigth-clicking on the screen you get a field dialog box that allows you to "Create: Grid or Related View". What are the differences between them?, besides, what are the advantages and disadvantages of using Grids or Related views?. Do you know of any kind of literature I should read to beter understand the proccess of creating and analyzing relational databases in Epi Info 2000?. I thank all of you for the help you could give me. Thanks again Angel Saez globalpres@cantv.net ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09B84.5A18B190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: [EPI-INFO] IF condition
Hi Angela, I haven't used Grid, but I find Related views are useful when you have multiple pieces of related information to store concerning one aspect on the main questionnaire which you don't need to see when you go to list all the information concerning the original database

-----Original Message-----
From: Angel Saez [mailto:globalpres@CANTV.NET]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:01 AM
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: [EPI-INFO] Grid and Related View

Hi to everybody, I am new to Epi Info 2000 and I am trying to teach myself to use the programs using the downloaded manual. Using MakeView, after rigth-clicking on the screen you get a field dialog box that allows you to "Create: Grid or Related View". What are the differences between them?, besides, what are the advantages and disadvantages of using Grids or Related views?. Do you know of any kind of literature I should read to beter understand the proccess of creating and analyzing relational databases in Epi Info 2000?. I thank all of you for the help you could give me. Thanks again

Angel Saez

globalpres@cantv.net

------_=_NextPart_001_01C09B84.5A18B190-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:56:16 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Williams, Tim" Subject: Z-Score results not giving Weight/Length Z-score? Help! Comments: cc: "Zhang, Laiju" , "Yang, Ronghua" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Hello Epi people, > > It has been a long time since I have used Epi-info - and never for the > following! I am hoping someone out there can help me out. Please note > that I am using EPI-Info 2000. > > I am attempting to calculate Z-scores for weight, length and wt/length. I > import the data into epi info okay, map the fields, and produce the output > data set. The weight Z-scores (field fldWHOWAZ) and length Z-scores > (fldWHOHAZ) are always present in the output data set. However, there are > several cases where the Wt/Length Z-Score (fldWHOWHZ) is left blank! I > noted that in these cases, the field fldWHOFlag has a value of 2 and > fldAge is a very small value. What is the field fldWHOFlag? Some type of > error flag? > > Eg Data > > fldIdNo fldCurrentDate fldSex fldAge fldBirthDate fldCm fldInch > fldKilos > 1 02/03/1999 F .23 01/27/1999 48 18.9 > 2.65 > 2 05/03/1999 F 3.15 01/27/1999 60 > 23.62 5.79 > > > fldIdNo fldWHOHAZ fldWHOWZ fldWHOWHZ fldWHOFlag > 1 -1.25 -1.45 2 > 2 0.03 0.37 0.36 0 > > > > Can someone explain this to me? I am obviously not a statistician :-) so > I hope an easy explanation is available. Thank you in advance for any > assistance you may be able to provide. > > Tim > > > Tim Williams, MSc., SASCP6 > Analysis Programmer II > PRA International > Charlottesville, VA > WilliamsTim@praintl.com > > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:25:48 +1300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Christine Roseveare Organization: Hutt Valley Health Subject: Epi6 Non code answer in coded field MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I have set up a field inan epi6 file that uses codes. But sometimes I want to enter something not covered by the codes. In the Epi6 manual (chapter 10) it says "coding restricts the entries allowed as though they had been designated legal" but goes on to say "...during data entry if you must enter a value which is not a valid code or legal value, this can be done using the down-arrow key instead of to record the value..." I tried using the down arrow key to enter a non coded value but it just beeps at me. Does anyone have any suggestions. Or another way to enter something other than what is coded? Thanks Christine Christine Roseveare Regional Public Health Hutt Valley Health Corporation Ltd 570 9140 Fax 04 570 9212 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:48:20 -0400 Reply-To: omaldona@entelchile.net Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Omar Maldonado A." Subject: Re: Z-Score results not giving Weight/Length Z-score? Help! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi: You can find the interpretation of this flags on the On-line Help of Epi 2000 (Nutrition). Hope this helps! Omar Maldonado A. Matr�n - Epidemi�logo Servicio de Salud Atacama http://www.saludatacama.cl _____ > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Epi Info Discussion Group [mailto:EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV]En > nombre de Williams, Tim > Enviado el: Martes, 20 de Febrero de 2001 17:56 > Para: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Asunto: [EPI-INFO] Z-Score results not giving Weight/Length Z-score? > Help! > > > > Hello Epi people, > > > > It has been a long time since I have used Epi-info - and > never for the > > following! I am hoping someone out there can help me out. Please note > > that I am using EPI-Info 2000. > > > > I am attempting to calculate Z-scores for weight, length and > wt/length. I > > import the data into epi info okay, map the fields, and produce > the output > > data set. The weight Z-scores (field fldWHOWAZ) and length Z-scores > > (fldWHOHAZ) are always present in the output data set. However, > there are > > several cases where the Wt/Length Z-Score (fldWHOWHZ) is left blank! I > > noted that in these cases, the field fldWHOFlag has a value of 2 and > > fldAge is a very small value. What is the field fldWHOFlag? > Some type of > > error flag? > > > > Eg Data > > > > fldIdNo fldCurrentDate fldSex fldAge fldBirthDate fldCm fldInch > > fldKilos > > 1 02/03/1999 F .23 01/27/1999 48 > 18.9 > > 2.65 > > 2 05/03/1999 F 3.15 01/27/1999 60 > > 23.62 5.79 > > > > > > fldIdNo fldWHOHAZ fldWHOWZ fldWHOWHZ fldWHOFlag > > 1 -1.25 -1.45 2 > > 2 0.03 0.37 0.36 0 > > > > > > > > Can someone explain this to me? I am obviously not a > statistician :-) so > > I hope an easy explanation is available. Thank you in advance for any > > assistance you may be able to provide. > > > > Tim > > > > > > Tim Williams, MSc., SASCP6 > > Analysis Programmer II > > PRA International > > Charlottesville, VA > > WilliamsTim@praintl.com > > > > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:35:32 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Betty Jung Subject: How about a message board??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I wouldn't mind hosting a message board on my Web site for ongoing discussions regarding Epi Info. Everyone can post whatever question they have, respond to what's posted and everyone can read the responses. This works very well for my Jobs Postings Board. To see how it works, go to: http://www.geocities.com/bettycjung/Phjobs.htm Click on the the Go to message board. I can set up a special page with the message board on it, and then you can check it whenever you want, post question, respond to one, or read other people's responses. Messages stay for two months and then they are deleted from the system. This won't cost anyone anything. I'm just interested in facilitating communication. If you want the messages saved I can cut and paste them into textfiles that can be accessed with a link. Thanks. Betty C. Jung -- Betty C. Jung eFax: (603)807-5694 http://www.bigfoot.com/~bettycjung __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:03:04 +1300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Rupthi De Zoysa Subject: Re: How about a message board??? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C09BA2.6A97BBB0" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09BA2.6A97BBB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" that is better -----Original Message----- From: Betty Jung [mailto:bcjung11@NETSCAPE.NET] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:45 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] How about a message board??? I wouldn't mind hosting a message board on my Web site for ongoing discussions regarding Epi Info. Everyone can post whatever question they have, respond to what's posted and everyone can read the responses. This works very well for my Jobs Postings Board. To see how it works, go to: http://www.geocities.com/bettycjung/Phjobs.htm Click on the the Go to message board. I can set up a special page with the message board on it, and then you can check it whenever you want, post question, respond to one, or read other people's responses. Messages stay for two months and then they are deleted from the system. This won't cost anyone anything. I'm just interested in facilitating communication. If you want the messages saved I can cut and paste them into textfiles that can be accessed with a link. Thanks. Betty C. Jung -- Betty C. Jung eFax: (603)807-5694 http://www.bigfoot.com/~bettycjung __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09BA2.6A97BBB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [EPI-INFO] How about a message board???
that is better

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From: Betty Jung [mailto:bcjung11@NETSCAPE.NET]<= /FONT>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:45 PM
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: [EPI-INFO] How about a message = board???

I wouldn't mind hosting a message board on my Web = site for ongoing discussions regarding Epi Info. Everyone can post = whatever question they have, respond to what's posted and everyone can = read the responses. This works very well for my Jobs Postings = Board.

To see how it works, go to:
http://www.geocities.com/bettycjung/Phjobs.htm
Click on the the Go to message board.

I can set up a special page with the message board on = it, and then you can check it whenever you want, post question, respond = to one, or read other people's responses.

Messages stay for two months and then they are = deleted from the system.
This won't cost anyone anything. I'm just interested = in facilitating communication.

If you want the messages saved I can cut and paste = them into textfiles that can be accessed with a link.

Thanks. Betty C. Jung

--
Betty C. Jung
eFax: (603)807-5694
http://www.bigfoot.com/~bettycjung

_______________________________________________________________= ___
Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account = today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
------_=_NextPart_001_01C09BA2.6A97BBB0-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:46:49 -0400 Reply-To: omaldona@entelchile.net Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Omar Maldonado A." Subject: Re: Epi6 Non code answer in coded field In-Reply-To: <200102202227.LAA28380@hvh.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Christine: From the DOS prompt you can type this: ENTER yourfile /OVER The /OVER command will let you to enter other codes. For this command you must set PATH to C:\EPI6 on the AUTOEXEC.BAT If you file is in another directory than EPI6, you can go to that directory and in the prompt type: C:\EPI6\ENTER yourfile /OVER Hope this helps! Omar Maldonado A. Matr�n - Epidemi�logo Servicio de Salud Atacama http://www.saludatacama.cl > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Epi Info Discussion Group [mailto:EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV]En > nombre de Christine Roseveare > Enviado el: Martes, 20 de Febrero de 2001 18:26 > Para: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Asunto: [EPI-INFO] Epi6 Non code answer in coded field > > > I have set up a field inan epi6 file that uses codes. But sometimes I > want to enter something not covered by the codes. In the Epi6 > manual (chapter 10) it says "coding restricts the entries allowed as > though they had been designated legal" but goes on to say > "...during data entry if you must enter a value which is not a valid > code or legal value, this can be done using the down-arrow key > instead of to record the value..." I tried using the down > arrow key to enter a non coded value but it just beeps at me. Does > anyone have any suggestions. Or another way to enter something > other than what is coded? > Thanks > Christine > > Christine Roseveare > Regional Public Health > Hutt Valley Health Corporation Ltd > 570 9140 > Fax 04 570 9212 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:02:44 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: T K O Subject: Newbie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01C09B91.3CC328C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C09B91.3CC328C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hey epi group, I am a GIS�r from the ESRI camp, but I have been riddled with a support question with a question regarding your software�the text of which is: �I have a software for Food Accounting running in Clipper & I want to link the database with my GIS (Geographic Info Sys) maps. We are distributing the food districtwise-blockwise in the states. I have the state maps districtwise-blockwise in my system. The GIS s/w that we are running out here is EPI-MAP 2 . How do I link my data to the maps ? I want that when ever the food stocks are low the block on the map should be red in colour. As & when the food is received, the quantity is immediately updated through our Food Accounting software. The block in the map now should automatically become green in colour.� Now this may be a little difficult to read� but what I need, not at all familiar with your software, is: 1) What scripting language is used to customize Epi Map (please say VB!) 2) Is .dbf supported? (I would think it would be almost useless if it wasn� t, but I got cover my bases) 3) Is .shp supported? 4) Anyone answer the question and propose the most efficient solution given the tools? 5) Should I recommend Oracle? My initial thoughts are that I should be able to pull from both datasets (relational tables would help here), Compare, and script the coloring with whatever scripting language exists in EPI. I could use color fields in the mapping .dbf and write a client or server-side script to update on a periodic basis. I am tired and am saying good night so I hope this is clear, but I hope to have a few answers in the AM.. Thanks in Advance! Sincerely, N Timothy Aho, Citrix Certified Administrator http://www.eserver.com eSERVER, Inc. 1081 Camino del Rio South, Suite 212 San Diego, CA 92108 Tel: 800.573.4362 Fax: 619.294.2637 ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C09B91.3CC328C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Newbie
Hey epi group,

I am a GIS=92r from the ESRI camp, but I have = been riddled with a support question with a question = regarding your = software=97the text of which is:

=93I have a software for = Food Accounting running in Clipper & I want to = link

the database with my GIS (Geographic Info = Sys) maps.

We are distributing the food districtwise-blockwise = in the states. I have

the state maps districtwise-blockwise in my system. =

The GIS s/w that we are running = out here is EPI-MAP 2 .

How do I link my data to the maps ? I want = that when ever the food stocks

are low the block on the map should be red in = colour.

As & when the food is received, the quantity is = immediately updated through

our Food Accounting software. The block in the map = now should automatically

become green in colour.=94

Now this may be a little difficult to = read=85 but what I = need, not at all familiar with your software, is:

1)   What = scripting language is used to = customize Epi Map (please say = VB!)

2)      Is .dbf = supported? (I would = think it would be almost useless if it wasn=92t, but I got cover my = bases)
3)      Is .shp = supported?
4)      Anyone = answer the question and propose the most = efficient solution given = the tools?
5)      Should I = recommend Oracle?

My initial thoughts are that I should be able to pull = from both datasets (relational tables would help = here),

Compare, and script the = coloring with whatever scripting language exists in = EPI. I could use color = fields in

the mapping .dbf and write a client = or server-side script to = update on a periodic = basis.

I am tired and am saying good night so I = hope this is clear, but I hope = to have a few answers in the AM.. Thanks in = Advance!

Sincerely,

N Timothy Aho, Citrix Certified Administrator =

http://www.eserver.com

eSERVER, Inc.
1081 Camino del Rio South, Suite 212
San Diego, CA 92108
Tel: 800.573.4362
Fax: 619.294.2637
------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C09B91.3CC328C0-- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:41:22 +1100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Dominique Salino Subject: Re: Color in data entry sub menu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Epi Users Franck Golliot raises an interesting question about different colors in different screens. I think, as an occ doc that colors should not (or be carefully) changed in a program if the user must work on different screens of different colors. Colors can be changed if one color correspond to one task and if the user has only one task to do. The basis of this recommandation is to try to lower visual efforts. It is now accepted that the "best" screens are black letters on white or light grey background, with only some color spots corresponding to different tasks called by the screen... Hope this help... Friendly yours from deep south pacific Dominique Salino, MD, DrSc Occupational Physician Noumea, New Caledonia > Hi Epi users, > > Does anyone know how to use colors in a data entry sub menu, using epi-info > 604c ? I would like to assign different colors for parts of the picklist. > > The sub menu look like this : ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:06:53 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: gerald daurat Subject: Re: Color in data entry sub menu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Pour les menus emboit�s, voici une suggestion si vous avez de grandes cat�gories pr�cis�es ensuite (ex CIM 10) Utiliser une premi�re variable, disons Vcat, repr�sentant les grandes cat�gories. par exemple la premi�re lettre de la CIM 10 le CHK contient la liste avec un comment legal par exemple.(ou bien mieux vous avez un fichier externe en .rec ou .txt des grandes cat�gories) Selon la valeur choisie, une commande if Vcat = "i"... Then goto VCATi vous envoie vers une autre variable, correspondant � la grande cat�gorie, disons VCat1, Vcat2, Vcat3 etc..(autant de variables que de cat�gories). L� vous utilisez un fichier .REC externe avec la commande codes ou un fichier .TXT avec la commande include, chaque fichier correspondant � la cat�gorie s�lectionn�e en Vcat. (de pr�f�rence � un codefield ou un commment legal, car cela all�ge le .CHK et rend la maintenance facile). Vous allez dire c'est tr�s lourd et va surcharger l'�cran. Pour �viter d'avoir un �cran surcharg�, toutes les variables vcati (1 � n) seront cach�es avec HIDE. Simplement dans le if ... then, vous glissez une commande unhide juste avant le goto. Une fois la saisie par listes de codes emboit�s, r�alis�s, il faut regrouper le resultat de la saisie �parpill�e de Vcat 1 � n dans une seule variable, celle utile pour l'analyse, disons Codemaladi. deux possibilit�s. Soit des s�ries de If testent le contenu de VCATi IF VCAT1 > "0" then Codemaladi = VCAT1 endif IF VCAT2 > "0" then Codemaladi = VCAT2 endif ............... etc jusqu'� n. soit plus �l�gamment, vous d�finissez en before file une nouvelle variable interm�diaire disons varint dont le contenu est fix� dans le bloc de VCATi sur lequel vous �tes renvoy�. VCATi comment legal include VCATi.txt end after entry let malint = VCATi goto Codemaladi end Codemaladi let codemaladi = malint noenter end ************************************************************* L'assemblage pourrait �tre Before file define malint hide vcat1 hide vcat2 ...... hide vcatn end Vcat mustenter comment legal include VCAT.TXT end ..... if Vcat = "i" (avec i de 1 � n ) Then unhide vcati goto VCATi endif ...... end VCATi comment legal include VCATi.txt end after entry let malint = VCATi goto Codemaladi end ..... Codemaladi let codemaladi = malint noenter end Ceci fonctionne par exemple avec la CIM 10, pour faciliter la saisie. G�rald Daurat Franck Golliot a �crit: > > Je n'ai pas re�u d'astuces pour l'instant, mon probl�me est de proposer un > mode de saisie le plus convivial possible � partir d'epi-info, sachant que > je dois utiliser des listes de codes complexes. Je souhaitais au d�part > utiliser des menus emboit�s, mais impossible de param�trer �a avec epi-info. > > Je vous tiens au courant si une solution m'est apport�e, les utilisateurs > d'epi-info sont pleins de ressources. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gerald daurat" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 5:32 PM > Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Color in data entry sub menu > > > Cher coll�gue > > > > Vous pouvez d�cider de la couleur du champ, ou de la couleur du fond, > > mais je ne pense pas que vous puissiez choisir la couleur d'un choix > > dans une liste de choix d�roulant (tel un codefield). > > > > Peut �tre aurez vous communication d'une astuce, mais �a m'�tonnerais. > > > > G�rald Daurat > > > > Montpellier > > > > Franck Golliot a �crit: > > > > > > Hi Epi users, > > > > > > Does anyone know how to use colors in a data entry sub menu, using > epi-info > > > 604c ? I would like to assign different colors for parts of the > picklist. > > > > > > The sub menu look like this : > > > > > > SERVICE > > > CODEFIELD SERVICE1 > > > END > > > > > > SERVICE1 > > > CODEFIELD SERVICE > > > CODES > > > "BLOC OPERATOIRE " "===" (in red for examle) > > > "BLOC SALLE REVEIL" BLO (in blue) > > > "BLOC CARDIO" BCR > > > "BLOC.ORTHOPEDIE" BOR > > > "BLOC.PNEUMO" BPN > > > > > > "REANIMATION " "===" > > > "- BLOC.VISCERAL" BVI > > > "- BLOC.GYNECO" BGY > > > "- BLOC.DIGESTIF" BDI > > > "- BLOC.OBSTETRIQUE" BOB > > > > > > "PATATI PATATI " "===" > > > "- BLOC.VISCERAL" BVI > > > "- BLOC.GYNECO" BGY > > > "- BLOC.DIGESTIF" BDI > > > "- BLOC.OBSTETRIQUE" BOB > > > END > > > END > > > > > > Thank you for your help, > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Franck GOLLIOT - C.CLIN Paris-Nord > > > Centre inter-r�gional de lutte contre l'infection nosocomiale > > > Epidemiology & Statistics Officer > > > Inter-regional center for nosocomial infection control > > > Paris, France > > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:06:35 +0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Kannika Vitsupakorn Subject: Grid and related view Comments: cc: Angel Saez Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Epi 2000 users, especially to Angel Saez, I've been teaching data management using Epi 2000 to my students this semester. I've faced many problems using it and have sent many queries to the team developers but hardly get any reply or explanation. However, here's are my answers to one of the many problems : 1. Don't use Grid as a relational view. Once you create a grid with any number of fields you cannot edit any of them later on. The only way to edit the grid is to delete the whole grid and make the new one. 2. You will not be able to check the tab order of fields in grid or even check the field structures. 3. In Analysis you cannot relate the parent view to related view in grid format. That is you cannot analyse data in grid. I wonder why there 's such problem. If any of you out there could help me explain these. I'm tired of writing to ask the development team in vain. Thank you, Kannika Vitsupakorn \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ | | Asst. Prof. Kannika Vitsupakorn | Department of Community Medicine | Faculty of Medicine | Chiang Mai University | Chiang Mai 50200 | THAILAND | Tel. 053-945471-4 | Fax 053-945476 | e-mail kvitsupa@med.cmu.ac.th | http://172.17.13.56/div/commed/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ \(^o^)/ --------------------------------------Oooo.-------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:38:08 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Yves =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin-Pr=E9vel?= Subject: Re: Z-Score results not giving Weight/Length Z-score? Help! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tim, In the case n=B01 you gave as an example, the baby has a 48 cm length and=20 there is no weight reference data for a so short length: therefore, no=20 Z-score can be calculated. If you have too many cases like this, you may=20 have to check the accuracy of the length's measurement. Hope this helps Yves MARTIN-PREVEL, Epidemiologist Nutrition Unit (WHO Collaborating Center for Nutrition) Institut de Recherche pour le D=E9veloppement (IRD) P.O. Box 5045 34032 Montpellier Cedex 1 (France) Tel: +33 4 67 41 61 92 Fax: +33 4 67 41 63 30 http://www.mpl.ird.fr/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:48:09 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Franck Golliot Subject: Re: Color in data entry sub menu Comments: To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?victor_manuel_mej=EDa?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I made a mistake, I thought answering especially to G=E9rald Daurat, but = I sent the message to the list. I apologize for this. Franck Golliot > > Dear Franck. > in the epi list mail, are most easy for the users, read the messagge in > english language, thus the suggest and answers... > > thank > _______________________________________________________________________= __ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.co= m. > > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:08:16 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Williams, Tim" Subject: Re: Z-Score results not giving Weight/Length Z-score? Help! Comments: cc: "Zhang, Laiju" , "Yang, Ronghua" , "Patel, Devvrat" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you Yves! Is there documentation somewhere in Epi-Info that states the ranges of = the reference data? That way I can flag values that outside the reference range. I will check the online documentation. Thanks again, Tim -----Original Message----- From: Yves Martin-Pr=E9vel [mailto:Yves.Martin-prevel@MPL.IRD.FR] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 3:38 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Z-Score results not giving Weight/Length Z-score? Help! Hi Tim, In the case n=B01 you gave as an example, the baby has a 48 cm length = and=20 there is no weight reference data for a so short length: therefore, no=20 Z-score can be calculated. If you have too many cases like this, you = may=20 have to check the accuracy of the length's measurement. Hope this helps Yves MARTIN-PREVEL, Epidemiologist Nutrition Unit (WHO Collaborating Center for Nutrition) Institut de Recherche pour le D=E9veloppement (IRD) P.O. Box 5045 34032 Montpellier Cedex 1 (France) Tel: +33 4 67 41 61 92 Fax: +33 4 67 41 63 30 http://www.mpl.ird.fr/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:30:23 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Kevin Sullivan Subject: Re: Z-Score results not giving Weight/Length Z-score? Help! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_143999739==_.ALT" --=====================_143999739==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Page 82 of Epi 2000 documentation discussing WHO/CDC/NCHS growth reference= =20 limitations (also in Chapter 23 of Epi Info/DOS documentation, available at= =20 http://www.cdc.gov/epiinfo/epi6man/manchp23.htm) HA and WA indices can be calculated for individuals from birth up to 18=20 years of age. WH indices are calculated for males to 138 months (11.5=20 years) of age and less than 145 cm (57 inches) and for females to 120=20 months (10 years) of age and less than 137 cm (53 inches). WH cannot be=20 calculated for children less than 49 cm (19.3 inches). For children less=20 than 2 years of age, recumbent (i.e., lying down) length measurements are=20 assumed; for children 2 years of age and older, height refers to standing=20 height. No anthropometric indices are calculated if sex is unknown or miscoded=20 because there are separate growth reference curves for males and females.=20 If weight is unknown, only HA will be calculated; if height is unknown,=20 only WA will be calculated; and if age is unknown, only WH will be=20 calculated. When age is unknown, children shorter than 85 centimeters are=20 assumed to be less than 2 years of age; otherwise, WH is calculated with=20 the assumption that the child is 2 years of age or older. Concerning writing your own program to identify values that are likely to=20 be incorrect, in the DOS version of Epi Info there was a program called=20 AMISS2.PGM which might be helpful. Other methods for identifying records=20 that may be incorrect can be found in Physical Status: the Use and=20 Interpretation of Anthropometry; Report of a WHO Expert Committee, WHO=20 Geneva, 1995. I am not sure what the limitations are of the new NCHS/CDC growth reference. At 08:08 AM 2/21/01 -0500, you wrote: >Thank you Yves! > >Is there documentation somewhere in Epi-Info that states the ranges of the >reference data? That way I can flag values that outside the reference >range. I will check the online documentation. > >Thanks again, > >Tim > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Yves Martin-Pr=E9vel [mailto:Yves.Martin-prevel@MPL.IRD.FR] >Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 3:38 AM >To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV >Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Z-Score results not giving Weight/Length >Z-score? Help! > > >Hi Tim, > >In the case n=B01 you gave as an example, the baby has a 48 cm length and >there is no weight reference data for a so short length: therefore, no >Z-score can be calculated. If you have too many cases like this, you may >have to check the accuracy of the length's measurement. > >Hope this helps > > > > >Yves MARTIN-PREVEL, Epidemiologist >Nutrition Unit (WHO Collaborating Center for Nutrition) >Institut de Recherche pour le D=E9veloppement (IRD) >P.O. Box 5045 >34032 Montpellier Cedex 1 (France) >Tel: +33 4 67 41 61 92 Fax: +33 4 67 41 63 30 >http://www.mpl.ird.fr/ --=====================_143999739==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Page 82 of Epi 2000 documentation discussing WHO/CDC/NCHS growth reference limitations (also in Chapter 23 of Epi Info/DOS documentation, available at http://www.cdc.gov/epiinfo/epi6man/manchp23.htm)

HA and WA indices can be calculated for individuals from birth up to 18 years of age. WH indices are calculated for males to 138 months (11.5 years) of age and less than 145 cm (57 inches) and for females to 120 months (10 years) of age and less than 137 cm (53 inches). WH cannot be calculated for children less than 49 cm (19.3 inches). For children less than 2 years of age, recumbent (i.e., lying down) length measurements are assumed; for children 2 years of age and older, height refers to standing height.

No anthropometric indices are calculated if sex is unknown or miscoded because there are separate growth reference curves for males and females. If weight is unknown, only HA will be calculated; if height is unknown, only WA will be calculated; and if age is unknown, only WH will be calculated. When age is unknown, children shorter than 85 centimeters are assumed to be less than 2 years of age; otherwise, WH is calculated with the assumption that the child is 2 years of age or older.

Concerning writing your own program to identify values that are likely to be incorrect, in the DOS version of Epi Info there was a program called AMISS2.PGM which might be helpful. Other methods for identifying records that may be incorrect can be found in Physical Status: the Use and Interpretation of Anthropometry; Report of a WHO Expert Committee, WHO Geneva, 1995.

I am not sure what the limitations are of the new NCHS/CDC growth reference.

At 08:08 AM 2/21/01 -0500, you wrote:

Thank you Yves!

Is there documentation somewhere in Epi-Info that states the ranges of the
reference data? That way I can flag values that outside the reference
range. I will check the online documentation.

Thanks again,

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Yves Martin-Pr=E9vel [mailto:Yves.Martin-prevel@MPL.IRD.FR]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 3:38 AM
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Z-Score results not giving Weight/Length
Z-score? Help!

Hi Tim,

In the case n=B01 you gave as an example, the baby has a 48 cm length and
there is no weight reference data for a so short length: therefore, no
Z-score can be calculated. If you have too many cases like this, you may
have to check the accuracy of the length's measurement.

Hope this helps

Yves MARTIN-PREVEL, Epidemiologist
Nutrition Unit (WHO Collaborating Center for Nutrition)
Institut de Recherche pour le D=E9veloppement (IRD)
P.O. Box 5045
34032 Montpellier Cedex 1 (France)
Tel: +33 4 67 41 61 92    Fax: +33 4 67 41 63 30
http://www.mpl.ird.fr/=
--=====================_143999739==_.ALT-- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:45:21 +0100 Reply-To: s.kennedy@ifad.org Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sean Kennedy Subject: Re: Z-Score results not giving Weight/Length Z-score? Help! In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010221082202.00aa4110@pop.sph.emory.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: MULTIPART/ALTERNATIVE; BOUNDARY="Boundary_(ID_AxrFrEmyBz8Uvo/09ABk9A)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_AxrFrEmyBz8Uvo/09ABk9A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by smtpext.unicc.org id f1LDiRZ03091 Also, you can visit the Anthropometry Resource Center at www.odc.com/ant= hro Go to 4. NCHS Reference Data where the references are given in tabular fo= rm. Regards, Se=E1n Kennedy Int'l Fund for Agricultural Development -----Original Message----- From: Epi Info Discussion Group [mailto:EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV]On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: 21 February 2001 14:30 To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Z-Score results not giving Weight/Length Z-score? Help! Page 82 of Epi 2000 documentation discussing WHO/CDC/NCHS growth reference limitations (also in Chapter 23 of Epi Info/DOS documentation, available at http://www.cdc.gov/epiinfo/epi6man/manchp23.htm) HA and WA indices can be calculated for individuals from birth up to = 18 years of age. WH indices are calculated for males to 138 months (11.5 yea= rs) of age and less than 145 cm (57 inches) and for females to 120 months (10 years) of age and less than 137 cm (53 inches). WH cannot be calculated f= or children less than 49 cm (19.3 inches). For children less than 2 years of age, recumbent (i.e., lying down) length measurements are assumed; for children 2 years of age and older, height refers to standing height. No anthropometric indices are calculated if sex is unknown or miscode= d because there are separate growth reference curves for males and females.= If weight is unknown, only HA will be calculated; if height is unknown, only= WA will be calculated; and if age is unknown, only WH will be calculated. Wh= en age is unknown, children shorter than 85 centimeters are assumed to be le= ss than 2 years of age; otherwise, WH is calculated with the assumption that the child is 2 years of age or older. Concerning writing your own program to identify values that are likel= y to be incorrect, in the DOS version of Epi Info there was a program calle= d AMISS2.PGM which might be helpful. Other methods for identifying records that may be incorrect can be found in Physical Status: the Use and Interpretation of Anthropometry; Report of a WHO Expert Committee, WHO Geneva, 1995. I am not sure what the limitations are of the new NCHS/CDC growth reference. At 08:08 AM 2/21/01 -0500, you wrote: Thank you Yves! Is there documentation somewhere in Epi-Info that states the rang= es of the reference data? That way I can flag values that outside the reference range. I will check the online documentation. Thanks again, Tim -----Original Message----- From: Yves Martin-Pr=E9vel [mailto:Yves.Martin-prevel@MPL.IRD.FR] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 3:38 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Z-Score results not giving Weight/Length Z-score? Help! Hi Tim, In the case n=B01 you gave as an example, the baby has a 48 cm le= ngth and there is no weight reference data for a so short length: therefor= e, no Z-score can be calculated. If you have too many cases like this, = you may have to check the accuracy of the length's measurement. Hope this helps Yves MARTIN-PREVEL, Epidemiologist Nutrition Unit (WHO Collaborating Center for Nutrition) Institut de Recherche pour le D=E9veloppement (IRD) P.O. Box 5045 34032 Montpellier Cedex 1 (France) Tel: +33 4 67 41 61 92 Fax: +33 4 67 41 63 30 http://www.mpl.ird.fr/ --Boundary_(ID_AxrFrEmyBz8Uvo/09ABk9A) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Also, you can visit the Anthropometry Resource Center at www.odc.com/anthro

Go to 4. NCHS Reference Data where the references are given in tabular form.

Regards,

Seán Kennedy

Int'l Fund for Agricultural Development

-----Original Message-----
From: Epi Info Discussion Group [mailto:EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV]On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan
Sent: 21 February 2001 14:30
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Z-Score results not giving Weight/Length Z-score? Help!

Page 82 of Epi 2000 documentation discussing WHO/CDC/NCHS growth reference limitations (also in Chapter 23 of Epi Info/DOS documentation, available at http://www.cdc.gov/epiinfo/epi6man/manchp23.htm)

HA and WA indices can be calculated for individuals from birth up to 18 years of age. WH indices are calculated for males to 138 months (11.5 years) of age and less than 145 cm (57 inches) and for females to 120 months (10 years) of age and less than 137 cm (53 inches). WH cannot be calculated for children less than 49 cm (19.3 inches). For children less than 2 years of age, recumbent (i.e., lying down) length measurements are assumed; for children 2 years of age and older, height refers to standing height.

No anthropometric indices are calculated if sex is unknown or miscoded because there are separate growth reference curves for males and females. If weight is unknown, only HA will be calculated; if height is unknown, only WA will be calculated; and if age is unknown, only WH will be calculated. When age is unknown, children shorter than 85 centimeters are assumed to be less than 2 years of age; otherwise, WH is calculated with the assumption that the child is 2 years of age or older.

Concerning writing your own program to identify values that are likely to be incorrect, in the DOS version of Epi Info there was a program called AMISS2.PGM which might be helpful. Other methods for identifying records that may be incorrect can be found in Physical Status: the Use and Interpretation of Anthropometry; Report of a WHO Expert Committee, WHO Geneva, 1995.

I am not sure what the limitations are of the new NCHS/CDC growth reference.

At 08:08 AM 2/21/01 -0500, you wrote:

Thank you Yves!

Is there documentation somewhere in Epi-Info that states the ranges of the
reference data? That way I can flag values that outside the reference
range. I will check the online documentation.

Thanks again,

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Yves Martin-Prével [mailto:Yves.Martin-prevel@MPL.IRD.FR]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 3:38 AM
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Z-Score results not giving Weight/Length
Z-score? Help!

Hi Tim,

In the case n°1 you gave as an example, the baby has a 48 cm length and
there is no weight reference data for a so short length: therefore, no
Z-score can be calculated. If you have too many cases like this, you may
have to check the accuracy of the length's measurement.

Hope this helps

Yves MARTIN-PREVEL, Epidemiologist
Nutrition Unit (WHO Collaborating Center for Nutrition)
Institut de Recherche pour le Développement (IRD)
P.O. Box 5045
34032 Montpellier Cedex 1 (France)
Tel: +33 4 67 41 61 92    Fax: +33 4 67 41 63 30
http://www.mpl.ird.fr/
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--Boundary_(ID_lTKM+s5A6jOnsDhw9bgcBQ)-- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:24:11 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Fortuna Daniela Subject: does Epi-info calculate Charlson Index? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hello everybody, I am new to the List: I am a statistician at the Italian Emilia-Romagna Region Health Agency. Does anyone know if Epi-Info (or other programs) calculate the Charlson Index, which is useful for estimating severity of comorbidity, defined in ICD9 CM. I have read that there is also a SAS macro to estimate it, but I have not found it yet. Thank you very much, Daniela Fortuna ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:38:14 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Mary Kay Parrish Subject: Re: does Epi-info calculate Charlson Index? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I do not have an epi info program for the Charlson Index, but the SAS code = is below. Charlson Index Basic Introduction to Charlson Index The Charlson Index contains 19 categories of comorbidity, which are = primarily defined using ICD-9-CM diagnoses codes (a few procedure codes = are also employed). Each category has an associated weight, taken from the = original Charlson paper, which is based on the adjusted risk of one-year = mortality. The overall comorbidity score reflects the cumulative increased = likelihood of one-year mortality; the higher the score, the more severe = the burden of comorbidity.=20 The Charlson Index should be used with caution since the ICD-9-CM codes = used in the program can refer either to complication or comorbidity = diagnoses. Unless these can be reliably differentiated it is possible that = the burden of comorbid disease might be overestimated. The best way to = avoid the confusion of complications with comorbidities is to remove the = complications. For hospital datasets this can be done using the diagnosis = type variable.=20 When this is not possible the use of this macro is not precluded: the = effect of complications on the comorbidity estimates provided by this = macro is limited since individual diagnoses are not used directly in = calculating the comorbidity score. Rather, these determine attribution to = comorbidity categories which are scored as binary variables. This binary = attribution within a comorbidity category limits the effect of complication= s since both the comorbidity and complication codes often fall in the same = disease category.=20 MORE INFORMATION :=20 Charlson ME, Pompei P, Ales KL, McKenzie CR: A new method of classifying = prognostic comorbidity in longitudinal studies: development and validation.= J Chron Dis 1987; 40(5):373-383=20 Roos LL, Stranc L, James RC and Li J. Complications, comorbidities and = mortality: improving classification and prediction. Health Services = Research 1997; 32(2):229-238=20 Romano PS, Roos LL, Jollis J: Adapting a clinical comorbidity index for = use with ICD-9-Cm administrative data. J of Clinical Epidemiology = 46(10):1075-79=20 Romano PS, Roos LL, Jollis J: Response: Further evidence concerning the = use of a clinical comorbidity index with ICD-9-CM administrative data. J = of Clinical Epidemiology 46(10):1085-90=20 How the Index works: The Index may be calculated either for a single record (separation) or = over a defined period of time prior to an index event. Every diagnosis and = procedure code is analysed to see if it falls within one of the 16 = comorbid conditions. If one of these is found a flag (1) for that = condition is set. These flags are weighted appropriately and summed to = generate values:=20 PCHRLSON - Charlson variable computed from admissions prior to and including the event. XCHRLSON - Charlson variable computed from the event admission only. PCOMP - Component variables for the Charlson variable observed on admissions prior to the event. (Note: there are 61 component variables) XCOMP - Component variables for the Charlson variable which were observed on the event admission. (Note: There are 61 component variables) AGGREGATES - Combinations of PCOMP and XCOMP variables which are=20 used for final determination of the Charlson score. A SAS macro is available from MCHPE that will compute the index.=20 NOTES / CAUTIONS=20 The current program was based on 1993 ICD9-CM codes for various conditions.= If you are using the index on other years you should check to confirm = there have been no major changes in ICD codes.=20 The following codes have been included in this program:=20 Diag: Angina 1 '413 ' - '4140 ','4148 ' - '4149 ', '4292 ' =20 Angina 2 '4111 ' - '4118 '=20 Arrhythmia 1 '42612' - '4269 ','427 ' - '4270 ', '4272 ' - '42732','4278 ' - '42789' Arrhythmia 2 '4274 ' - '4275 ','4260 ','4271 ', 'V450 '=20 Vascular Heart Disease 1 '394 ' - '39490' , '424 ' - '42400' , '395 ' - '39590' , '4241 ' - '42410' , '396 ' - '39690' , '397 ' - '39710' , '4242 ' - '42430' , '3979 ' <=3DDX{K} =3D '39790' , '4249 ' - '42490' , '421 ' - '42299' Vascular Heart Disease 2 'V433 '=20 Myocardial Infarction (acute) '410 ' - '41099'=20 Myocardial Infarction (old) '412 '=20 CHF '428 ' - '4289 ' , '4293 ', '40201', '40211', '40291', '425 ' - '4259 '=20 Hypertension 1 '401 ' - '4019 ','405 ', '4051 ' - '40599'=20 Hypertension 2 '402 ' - '40291'| '403 ' - '40390', '404 ' - '40490','4050 ' - '40509' Peripheral vascular disease '441 ' - '4419 ' , '442 ' - '4429 ' , '4431 ' - '4439 ' , '4471 ', '440 ' - '4409 ' , '7854 ' Cerebrovascular disease '7843 ','438 ' , '9970 ', '36234', '7814 ', '430 ' - '436 ','437 ' - '4371 ', '4379 '=20 COPD 1 '491 ' - '4949 '|'496 ' COPD 2 '4150 ' ,'4168 ' - '4169 '=20 Neuro_OT - Parkensonism, etc '332 ' - '3321 ','3334 ', '340 ', '3335 ', '345 ' - '3459 ', '334 ' - '3349 ','335 ' - '3359 ', '3411 ' - '3419 ','3481 ', '3319 ', '3483 ' Dementia '290 ' - '2909 ','331 ' - '3312 ' Paralysis '342 ' - '3429 ','3440 ' - '3449 ' Endo other '243 ' - '2449 ' , '2532 ' , '2537 ' - '2539 ' , '2554 ' - '2555 ', '242 ' - '2429 ' , '2450 ' - '2459 ', '252 ' - '2521 ', '2553 ',DX{K} =3D '2556 ','255 ' - '2551 ' Diabetes '250 ' - '2501 '=20 DKA, etc. '2501 ' - '2503 '=20 Diabetes with sequelae '2504 ' - '25099'=20 Chronic Renal Failure 1 '585 ' - '586 '=20 Chronic Renal Failure 2 'V451 ','V420 ', 'V56 '- 'V569'=20 Various Cirrhotics '5712 ','5715 '- '5716 '| '5718 ' - '5719 '=20 Moderate-severe liver disease '5722 ' - '5724 ', '4560 ' - '45629'=20 Ulcers '531 ' - '53499'=20 Inflammatory Bowel Disease '555 ' - '5556 '=20 Various Cancers ('140 ' - '14090') LIPCA=20 ('141 ' - '14990') ORALCA=20 ('150 ' - '15090') ESOPHCA=20 ('151 ' - '15190') STOMCHCA=20 ('152 ' - '15290') SMLINTCA=20 ('153 ' - '15480') COLONCA=20 ('155 ' - '15790') LIVBILCA=20 ('158 ' - '15990') OTHDIGCA=20 ('160 ' - '16190') UPAIRCA=20 ('162 ' - '16390') LUNGCA=20 ('164 ' - '16590') OTCHSTCA=20 ('170 ' - '17190') PRMBONCA=20 ('174 ' - '17590') BREASTCA=20 ('179 ' - '18490') FEMGUCA=20 ('185 ', 'V1046') PROSTCA=20 ('186 ' - '18790') MALEGUCA=20 ('188 ' - '1899 ') BLDKIDCA=20 ('190 ' - '19090') EYECA=20 ('191 ' - '19290') CNSCA=20 ('193 ' - '19490') ENDOCA=20 ('195 ' - '19590') OTHERCA=20 ('196 ' - '1990') SECONDCA=20 '200 ' - '2038 ', '2730 ', '204 ' - '2089 ' LEUKEMIA Procedures: Vascular 2 '3813' - '3814', '3816', '3818','3843' - '3844', '3846', '3848','3833' - '3834', '3836', '3838', '3922' - '3926', '3929' CVD '3812', '3842'=20 Renal 2 '3927','3993' - '3995', '3942','5498' Liver 2 '391 ', '4291'=20 Prostca '605 ', '624 ', '6241'=20 Mary Kay Parrish Bureau of Infectious Disease Control Ohio Department of Health 7th Floor 35 E Chestnut Bldg P.O. Box 118 Columbus, OH 43216-0118 (614) 466-9067 >>> dfortuna@ASR.REGIONE.EMILIA-ROMAGNA.IT Wednesday, February 21, 2001 = 12:24:11 PM >>> Hello everybody, I am new to the List: I am a statistician at the Italian Emilia-Romagna Region Health Agency. Does anyone know if Epi-Info (or other programs) calculate the Charlson Index, which is useful for estimating severity of comorbidity, defined in ICD9 CM. I have read that there is also a SAS macro to estimate it, but I have not found it yet. Thank you very much, Daniela Fortuna ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:52:43 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Bud Gerstman Subject: Re: How about a message board??? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Betty, Thank you for your kind offer to start an Epi Info message board. I appreciate it. However, I feel that this might further divide the Epi Info community which, at this point, would not be a good thing. This is my opinion of course, and the opinions of others may differ. Bud Gerstman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Jung" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 4:35 PM Subject: [EPI-INFO] How about a message board??? > I wouldn't mind hosting a message board on my Web site for ongoing discussions regarding Epi Info. Everyone can post whatever question they have, respond to what's posted and everyone can read the responses. This works very well for my Jobs Postings Board. > > To see how it works, go to: > http://www.geocities.com/bettycjung/Phjobs.htm > Click on the the Go to message board. > > I can set up a special page with the message board on it, and then you can check it whenever you want, post question, respond to one, or read other people's responses. > > Messages stay for two months and then they are deleted from the system. > This won't cost anyone anything. I'm just interested in facilitating communication. > > If you want the messages saved I can cut and paste them into textfiles that can be accessed with a link. > > Thanks. Betty C. Jung > > -- > Betty C. Jung > eFax: (603)807-5694 > http://www.bigfoot.com/~bettycjung > > __________________________________________________________________ > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:41:25 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Kim Winpisinger-Slay Subject: Printing one-page surveys We have a database in Epi6 that I converted to Epi2000. The database converted ok, but what was a 1 page form in Epi6 became a 3 page form in Epi2000 MakeView. I need to be able to print out one page per case, in Epi2000, as these test results are mailed out to each person who submitted data to us. I have not been able to figure out how to do this. Does anyone have any suggestions? Kim Winpisinger-Slay, MS Epidemiologist Ohio Department of Health (614) 752-1029 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:55:16 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: J Howgate Subject: Zip code search algorithm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to create a search algorithm for matching on zip code. The search sequence needs to start at the index case zip code and compile potential controls from the index zip code and subsequently in contiguous zip codes until 15 potential controls are selected. Is there anyone who has any experience with this? ***************************** James Howgate, MPH Surveillance Officer Georgia Emerging Infections Program 69 Butler Street Atlanta, GA 30303 Phone: 404-616-0403 Fax: 404-616-5199 ***************************** ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:02:40 -0700 Reply-To: "J. Gossage" Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "J. Gossage" Subject: Re: Printing one-page surveys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Kim, I'll monitor responses to your question. My colleague and I might have a suggestion to help you. Regards, Jan J. Phillip Gossage, Ph.D. Senior Research Scientist The University of New Mexico Center on Alcoholism, Substance Abuse and Addictions -----Original Message----- From: Kim Winpisinger-Slay To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Date: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: [EPI-INFO] Printing one-page surveys >We have a database in Epi6 that I converted to Epi2000. The database >converted ok, but what was a 1 page form in Epi6 became a 3 page form >in Epi2000 MakeView. I need to be able to print out one page per case, >in Epi2000, as these test results are mailed out to each person who >submitted data to us. I have not been able to figure out how to do >this. 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--------------CB9BB65BB298E57D15775B91-- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:59:08 -0300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Enrique Finetti Subject: epi weeks and day of week Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_982821548==_" --=====================_982821548==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dears Abrantes and Samir: I send a file calsem.pgm attached. This file, when run in analysis, make a file calenda.rec (wait some minutes). It content the fields "dia" (day of week), "fecha" (day in question, in european date "dd/mm/yyyy"), "semana" (epi week), "aep" (epi year) and "estacion" (season in south hemispheric). The epi weeks are calculate like the CDC=B4s way. 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Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:30:41 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Betty C. Jung" Subject: Re: How about a message board??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Bud, You have a good point. Even having 2 message boards, one for Epi 2000 and another for Epi 6 would reduce the time I need to sort through dozens of E-mails to find what I'm looking for. The offer still stands. I'm sure no one has unlimited E-mail storage and unlimited hours to browse through E-mails all day. If there is enough interest, I will build it (and I'm sure "someone will come."), if not, that's fine, too. Thanks. Betty C. Jung Epi Info Discussion Group wrote: > > Betty, > > Thank you for your kind offer to start an Epi Info message board. I > appreciate it. However, I feel that this might further divide the Epi Info > community which, at this point, would not be a good thing. This is my > opinion of course, and the opinions of others may differ. > > Bud Gerstman > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betty Jung" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 4:35 PM > Subject: [EPI-INFO] How about a message board??? > > > > I wouldn't mind hosting a message board on my Web site for ongoing > discussions regarding Epi Info. Everyone can post whatever question they > have, respond to what's posted and everyone can read the responses. This > works very well for my Jobs Postings Board. > > > > To see how it works, go to: > > http://www.geocities.com/bettycjung/Phjobs.htm > > Click on the the Go to message board. > > > > I can set up a special page with the message board on it, and then you can > check it whenever you want, post question, respond to one, or read other > people's responses. > > > > Messages stay for two months and then they are deleted from the system. > > This won't cost anyone anything. I'm just interested in facilitating > communication. > > > > If you want the messages saved I can cut and paste them into textfiles > that can be accessed with a link. > > > > Thanks. Betty C. Jung > > > > -- > > Betty C. Jung > > eFax: (603)807-5694 > > http://www.bigfoot.com/~bettycjung > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at > http://webmail.netscape.com/ > > > -- Betty C. Jung eFax: (603)807-5694 http://www.geocities.com/bettycjung http://www.bigfoot.com/~bettycjung __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From: L-Soft list server at CDC (1.8d) [LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 11:01 AM To: Steven S Yoon Subject: File: "EPI-INFO LOG0102B" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:40:32 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Yves =?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin-Pr=E9vel?= Subject: Re: FW: EpiInfo 6.01, Merging In-Reply-To: <16444578F031D311940900902785518704012372@phealth.soph.uab. edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, A tip which usually works : exporting both rec files in x-base format and=20 immediately re-importing them into EpiInfo. They usually are re-imported=20 with the same numeric format. Otherwise I'm pretty sure that the solution=20 proposed by Giles Crane also works: creating a new ID field (with the same= =20 format) in both files and just attribute to the new ID the value of the old= =20 ID multiplied by 1. Last idea: combining the two approaches: first creating= =20 new IDs, then exporting/re-importing the files. Hope this is of some help. Good luck! Yves Yves MARTIN-PREVEL, Epidemiologist Nutrition Unit (WHO Collaborating Center for Nutrition) Institut de Recherche pour le D=E9veloppement (IRD) P.O. Box 5045 34032 Montpellier Cedex 1 (France) Tel: +33 4 67 41 61 92 Fax: +33 4 67 41 63 30 http://www.mpl.ird.fr/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:09:11 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sarah Knowlton Subject: setting a permanent year, but felible months and days MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi , just wondering if anyone can help with setting up my .chk file in such a way that the year of diagnosis is set permanently for each record ( ie: 1996 for each record entered) but the month and day can still be entered according to each record. I am using Epi6. thanks in advance for all your help as usual! Sarah -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:35:58 -0400 Reply-To: diag-ssa@entelchile.net Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Epidemiolog=EDa-Servicio_de_Salud_Atacama?= Subject: Re: setting a permanent year, but felible months and days In-Reply-To: <3A831907.8ABFC042@cancerboard.ab.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C09206.5C5AFDA0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C09206.5C5AFDA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sara: This files can do that! You can modify the year and date format as you want. Hope this helps! Best Regards! Omar Maldonado A. Matr�n - Epidemi�logo Servicio de Salud Atacama http://www.saludatacama.cl _____ Add the HumanClick "Click to Chat" button to your own e-mails for free at www.humanclick.com > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Epi Info Discussion Group [mailto:EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV]En > nombre de Sarah Knowlton > Enviado el: Jueves, 08 de Febrero de 2001 18:09 > Para: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Asunto: [EPI-INFO] setting a permanent year, but felible months and days > > > Hi , > just wondering if anyone can help with setting up my .chk file in such a > way that the year of diagnosis is set permanently for each record ( ie: > 1996 for each record entered) but the month and day can still be > entered according to each record. > > I am using Epi6. > > thanks in advance for all your help as usual! > Sarah > > -- > Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant > Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening > Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 > email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C09206.5C5AFDA0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="YEAR.REC" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="YEAR.REC" 3 1 DAY 1 1 30 5 1 0 2 112 day MONTH 1 2 30 7 2 0 2 112 month DATE 1 3 30 6 3 2 10 112 date 11212/01/1996! 21 303/01/1996! 21212/02/1996! 51205/12/1996! 71212/07/1996! =1A ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C09206.5C5AFDA0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="YEAR.QES" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="YEAR.QES" day ## month ## date =1A ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C09206.5C5AFDA0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="YEAR.CHK" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="YEAR.CHK" before file define d1 __ global define m1 __ global define date1 __________ global define y1 ____ global y1=3D "1996" end DAY RANGE 1 30 after entry if day < 10 then d1 =3D "0" + day else d1 =3D day endif end END MONTH RANGE 1 12 after entry if month < 10 then m1 =3D "0" + month else m1 =3D month endif date1 =3D m1 + "/" + d1 + "/" + y1 date =3D date1 update END end date end =1A ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C09206.5C5AFDA0-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:39:12 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Jamie Hockin Subject: Re: setting a permanent year, but felible months and days Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=WbSc6eD3E0IDdk01DqbolsE8wnDr1uYyjZZ3fSaQ11vz8U90HG3zsVyJ" --0__=WbSc6eD3E0IDdk01DqbolsE8wnDr1uYyjZZ3fSaQ11vz8U90HG3zsVyJ Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sarah: You can set the year, month and day as separate fields and have before record year =3D 1996 end year noenter end OR you can do the following mdy before entry mdy =3D "01/01/1996" end after entry if mdy[7,4] <> "1996" then type "Year reset to 1996" +10 +0 mdy =3D mdy[1,6] + "1996" endif end end Jamie Hockin, MD, MSc Jamie_Hockin@hc-sc.gc.ca Tel: 613 957-1764 Fax: 613 941-6028 Director, Public Health Training and Applications, Centre for Surveilla= nce Coordination Population and Public Health Branch, Health Canada Directeur, Formation et outils pour la sant=E9 publique, Centre de la c= oordination de la surveillance Direction g=E9n=E9rale de la sant=E9 de la population et de la sant=E9 = publique, Sant=E9 Canada Sarah Knowlton on 08/02/2001 05:09:11 PM Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group = To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV cc: (bcc: Jamie Hockin) Subject: [EPI-INFO] setting a permanent year, but felible months and d= ays = --0__=WbSc6eD3E0IDdk01DqbolsE8wnDr1uYyjZZ3fSaQ11vz8U90HG3zsVyJ Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi , just wondering if anyone can help with setting up my .chk file in such a way that the year of diagnosis is set permanently for each record ( ie: 1996 for each record entered) but the month and day can still be entered according to each record. I am using Epi6. thanks in advance for all your help as usual! Sarah -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca --0__=WbSc6eD3E0IDdk01DqbolsE8wnDr1uYyjZZ3fSaQ11vz8U90HG3zsVyJ-- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:04:30 -0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ant=F3nio_Pina?= Subject: Qui Square for linear trens MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0927F.B19667E0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0927F.B19667E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In section STATCALC there is the option "Qui-Square for linear trend". This is a good option for testing association between an ordinal = independent variable and a dichotomic dependent variable. Could we choose this option for testing the evolution in time for = something? For instance: could we choose it for testing between a time variable = (1995, 1996, ..., 2000), as if it was an ordinal variable, and mortality = (dichotomic variable: death, alive)? Pina (Portugal) ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0927F.B19667E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In section STATCALC there is the option = "Qui-Square=20 for linear trend".

This is a good option for testing = association=20 between an ordinal independent variable and a dichotomic dependent=20 variable.

Could we choose this option for testing = the=20 evolution in time for something?

For instance: could we choose it for = testing=20 between a time variable (1995, 1996, ..., 2000), as if it was an ordinal = variable, and mortality (dichotomic variable: death, = alive)?

Pina

(Portugal)
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0927F.B19667E0-- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:40:29 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Jens M. Lauritsen (JeL@sus.fyns-amt.dk)" Subject: Re: EPI-INFO Digest - fix year at entry In-Reply-To: <200102090500.f1950CY23693@appleton.uni2.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In epidata you could have your qes file like this: qes: day1 ## month1 ## date1 (day, month and year are reserved words in epidata) chk: Day1 RANGE 1 31 END Month1 RANGE 1 12 after entry date1 = date(day1,month1,1996) END end date1 noenter end In this way you would get an error message if your combination of day and month is not a legal date. E.g. if you enter 31 for day and 2 for month. Kindly Jens M. Lauritsen, Senior Registrar, PhD. Fyns Amt (County of Fyn), Health Service Division e-mail: JM.Lauritsen@dadlnet.dk For info on EpiData (dataentry), see: Http://www.epidata.dk ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:13:55 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Amelia Broussard Subject: Re: EPI-INFO Digest - fix year at entry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I am no longer interested in receiving the e-mail information. Please remove me from the list. thank you . Dr. Amelia Broussard Lead me not into temptation for I can find the way myself > -----Original Message----- > From: Jens M. Lauritsen (JeL@sus.fyns-amt.dk) > [SMTP:JM.Lauritsen@DADLNET.DK] > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 6:40 AM > To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] EPI-INFO Digest - fix year at entry > > In epidata you could have your qes file like this: > qes: > day1 ## > month1 ## > date1 > (day, month and year are reserved words in epidata) > > chk: > Day1 > RANGE 1 31 > END > > Month1 > RANGE 1 12 > after entry > date1 = date(day1,month1,1996) > END > end > > date1 > noenter > end > > In this way you would get an error message if your combination of day and > month is not a legal date. E.g. if you enter 31 for day and 2 for month. > > > Kindly > > Jens M. Lauritsen, Senior Registrar, PhD. > Fyns Amt (County of Fyn), Health Service Division > e-mail: JM.Lauritsen@dadlnet.dk > For info on EpiData (dataentry), see: Http://www.epidata.dk ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:47:51 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sarah Knowlton Subject: Re: setting a permanent year,but flexible months and days MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to everyone for the very useful and accurate advice! I appreciate = it! Now, I unfortunately have another one for you guys to hopefully help me w= ith. If I wanted to make a drop down list of possible response options in Epi6= can I do this, and can I also incorporate a place where another reponse could= be entered if their response wasn't in the options (kind of like a combo box= in word)? Thanks! Sarah Epidemiolog=EDa-Servicio de Salud Atacama wrote: > Sara: > This files can do that! > You can modify the year and date format as you want. > Hope this helps! > > Best Regards! > > Omar Maldonado A. > Matr=F3n - Epidemi=F3logo > Servicio de Salud Atacama > http://www.saludatacama.cl > > _____ > > Add the HumanClick "Click to Chat" button to your own e-mails for free = at > www.humanclick.com > > > -----Mensaje original----- > > De: Epi Info Discussion Group [mailto:EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV]En > > nombre de Sarah Knowlton > > Enviado el: Jueves, 08 de Febrero de 2001 18:09 > > Para: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > > Asunto: [EPI-INFO] setting a permanent year, but felible months and d= ays > > > > > > Hi , > > just wondering if anyone can help with setting up my .chk file in suc= h a > > way that the year of diagnosis is set permanently for each record ( i= e: > > 1996 for each record entered) but the month and day can still be > > entered according to each record. > > > > I am using Epi6. > > > > thanks in advance for all your help as usual! > > Sarah > > > > -- > > Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant > > Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening > > Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 > > email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > Name: YEAR.REC > YEAR.REC Type: application/x-unknown-content-type-rec_auto_file > Encoding: quoted-printable > > Name: YEAR.QES > YEAR.QES Type: application/x-unknown-content-type-QES_auto_file > Encoding: quoted-printable > > Name: YEAR.CHK > YEAR.CHK Type: application/x-unknown-content-type-chk_auto_file > Encoding: quoted-printable -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 12:56:26 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Jens M. Lauritsen" Subject: Re: combo like box Comments: cc: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca In-Reply-To: <200102100500.f1A50Gt29477@appleton.uni2.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Suggestion for epiinfo v6 or epidata would be: Idea: Add as a comment legal the codes you know at the moment. Allow for a range larger than the number of codes you know now and then for those codes in addition write the code in an extra field. When a number of such extra codes exist enlarge the comment legal block with the added codes and change the limit in the after entry block appropriately. As a test you could afterwards make a frequency table of v1txt after selecting each code value in v1 to make sure that the each extra code only stands for one txt. Example: qes: (In epidata you do not need the {} if fieldnames are set to "first word") {v1} numeric ### {v1txt} contains extra codes _________________ {v2} next field ## chk file: v1 comment legal 1 txt1 2 txt2 3 txt3 4 etc. as many codes as you know at the moment. end range 1 20 after entry if v1 > 4 then goto v1txt else goto v2 endif end v1txt help "Enter the description for the code you entered in v1" end v2 end For checking the description do this in an analysis program: e.g. epiinfo v6 - analysis.exe: select v1 = 4 freq v1txt select select v1 = 5 freq v1txt etc. or Stata (v 6): for any 4/20: tab v1txt * where 20 is the max possible value you gave v1. etc. If all v1txt for a given code are the same you have no problems. Kindly Jens M.Lauritsen, JM.Lauritsen@dadlnet.dk For info on EpiData, check Http://www.epidata.dk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:02:00 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sarah Knowlton Subject: How to make codfield longer? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for your input! It's much appreciated. I am now wondering how I can make as codefield longer so that i can enter the enter name for the code? ex. code=1 name="Clinician Size: Averaged" when I type in the name for the code it gets cut off at "Clinician Size: Aver" and I can not elongate the word any further. Is there any way to do so? thanks Sarah -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:08:17 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Eric Brenner Subject: Re: How to make codfield longer? In-Reply-To: <3A881708.166B6A81@cancerboard.ab.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello Sarah, The maximum number of characters (including blank spaces between words) that you are able to display in a COMMENT LEGAL phrase is, I believe 19 spaces. That is why even if you code in your CHK file: :QES V1 # :CHK V1 COMMENT LEGAL 1 "CLINICIAN SIZE:AVERAGED" 2 "OTHER TEXT" 3 "STILL MORE ETC" END END You will actually NOT be able to display more than 19 characters, and you will only be able to see in your "combo box" just "CLINICIAN SIZE:AVER" (19 characters!) as you report. This is, to my knowledge, just one of the little limitations inherent in the DOS version of Epi Info. Usually though a reasonable "work around" or suitably clear abbreviation can be found so that in practice this is not really a major problem. Hope this helps. Eric *************************************** Eric Brenner, MD Medical Epidemiologist Bureau of Disease Control SC DHEC (USA) Email: ebrenner@rocketmail.com *************************************** --- Sarah Knowlton wrote: > Thanks for your input! It's much appreciated. I am now > wondering how I > can make as codefield longer so that i can enter the enter > name for the > code? > > ex. > code=1 > name="Clinician Size: Averaged" > > > when I type in the name for the code it gets cut off at > "Clinician Size: > Aver" > and I can not elongate the word any further. Is there any way > to do so? > > thanks > Sarah > > -- > Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant > Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening > Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 > email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! 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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA== --=_C19A7ECB.B0D1BEEC Content-Type: text/x-vcard Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="MATT EKRON.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-GWTYPE:USER FN:MATT EKRON TEL;WORK:01781-92076 ORG:;AGRICULTURE TEL;PREF;FAX:01781-92072 EMAIL;WORK;PREF;NGW:MATT N:EKRON;MATT TITLE:DR X-GWUSERID:MATT END:VCARD --=_C19A7ECB.B0D1BEEC-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:54:27 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sarah Knowlton Subject: Re: How to make codfield longer? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks you very much for the reply. I had hoped that there was some way aroudn it, but I guess I'll just have to abbreviate words and phrases. thanks again, Sarah Eric Brenner wrote: > Hello Sarah, > > The maximum number of characters (including blank spaces between > words) that you are able to display in a COMMENT LEGAL phrase > is, I believe 19 spaces. That is why even if you code in your > CHK file: > > :QES > V1 # > > :CHK > V1 > COMMENT LEGAL > 1 "CLINICIAN SIZE:AVERAGED" > 2 "OTHER TEXT" > 3 "STILL MORE ETC" > END > END > > You will actually NOT be able to display more than 19 > characters, and you will only be able to see in your "combo box" > just "CLINICIAN SIZE:AVER" (19 characters!) as you report. This > is, to my knowledge, just one of the little limitations inherent > in the DOS version of Epi Info. Usually though a reasonable > "work around" or suitably clear abbreviation can be found so > that in practice this is not really a major problem. > > Hope this helps. > > Eric > > *************************************** > Eric Brenner, MD > Medical Epidemiologist > Bureau of Disease Control > SC DHEC (USA) > Email: ebrenner@rocketmail.com > *************************************** > > --- Sarah Knowlton wrote: > > Thanks for your input! It's much appreciated. I am now > > wondering how I > > can make as codefield longer so that i can enter the enter > > name for the > > code? > > > > ex. > > code=1 > > name="Clinician Size: Averaged" > > > > > > when I type in the name for the code it gets cut off at > > "Clinician Size: > > Aver" > > and I can not elongate the word any further. Is there any way > > to do so? > > > > thanks > > Sarah > > > > -- > > Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant > > Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening > > Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 > > email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca From: L-Soft list server at CDC (1.8d) [LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 11:01 AM To: Steven S Yoon Subject: File: "EPI-INFO LOG0102A" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:44:10 +0000 Reply-To: A.Taylor@SCFUK.ORG.UK Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Mark Myatt Subject: Interesting position for epidemiologist - pass it on ... 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Thanks. Mark Announcement -=-=-=-=-=- The Interagency Group on Breastfeeding Monitoring (IGBM) requires: An experienced research methods consultant A media and marketing consultant For international review and monitoring. The International Code of Marketing of Breastmilk Substitutes was adopted by the World Health Assembly in 1981 and is an important measure in protecting breastfeeding as the healthiest feeding method for infants. The Code is being violated in many countries, putting the health of children at risk. The Interagency Group on Breastfeeding Monitoring (IGBM) aims to encourage the monitoring of and compliance with the Code and has designed methodology for this purpose. The Group is a coalition of international NGOs, churches and academic bodies. Save the Children UK acts as the Group�s secretariat. In 1997 IGBM published its report "Cracking the Code" which was the result of research undertaken in four countries and showed evidence of Code violations. IGBM now wishes to appoint two consultants to review this work. In collaboration with a range of stakeholders and partners at international and national levels, the Research Methods consultant will refine the monitoring methodology to ensure that it is a tool that meets the needs of national and international organisations involved in monitoring the International Code of Marketing of Breastmilk Substitutes. The Marketing and Media consultant will assess the impact of the previous monitoring exercise on policy and practice and will make recommendations for a future international monitoring strategy. The Research Methodology consultant will have a post graduate degree in epidemiology, medical statistics, nutrition or public health, and will have strong and extensive experience in designing and evaluating research methodologies (both quantitative and qualitative). It is anticipated that this consultant would be employed for about 9 months starting as soon as possible. The Media and Marketing consultant will have extensive experience of evaluating the impact of advocacy and or marketing campaigns at a variety of levels and will have had experience working in the non- governmental or public sectors. It is anticipated that this consultant would be employed for 3 months starting from April 2001. Both consultants will have experience of working in international contexts and would be able to travel overseas. Both will have excellent written and verbal communication skills. Consultants will be employed by the Save the Children and normal terms and conditions will apply For further information, please contact: Anna Taylor IGBM Secretary c/o Save the Children 17 Grove Lane Camberwell London SE5 8RD Tel: 0171 703 5400 Fax: 0171 793 7626 e-mail: A.Taylor@SCFUK.ORG.UK The following organisations have made a financial or other contribution to the research carried out by IGBM: Ajahma Charitable Trust The Baptist Union of Great Britain British Association of Community Child Health (BACCH) Catholic Fund for Overseas Development (CAFOD) Catholic Institute for International Relations (CIIR) Centre for International Child Health, Institute of Child Health, UK Children�s Aid Direct Christian Aid The Church of England�s Archbishop's Council, Board for Social Responsibility Church of Scotland, Church & Nation Committee Comic Relief Council of Oriental Orthodox Churches International Child Health Group (ICHG) Methodist Church Mothers� Union Oxfam GB Radda Barnen Save the Children, UK TearFund, UK UK Committee for UNICEF UNICEF Regional Office, Central and Eastern Europe, Commonwealth of Independent States and Baltic States United Reformed Church (Church and Society) Voluntary Service Overseas (VSO) World Health Organisation, Regional Office for Europe World Council of Churches World Vision, UK IGBM's work has benefited from the individual advice and support of: Rev Simon Barrington-Ward Dr Martin Kirkpatrick Dr Tony Waterston Dr Anthony Williams ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:06:45 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Kim Dang Subject: Revise .QES in EPIDATA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear EPI group, I would like to ask that 1. Can we revise the .QES file in EPIDATA without losing data as we can do in EPI6? Because after I revised the .QES file, I went to Make Data file (.REC), then I got the message=20 that it will overwrite to the previous file. 2. How can I combine fields of number, date to text type? for example, I have .QES DOB Chart ######## Last PtInfo ________________________________________ .CHK PTINFO let PTINFO=3D STRING(CHART) + " " +LAST+ " " + STRING(DOB) type statusbar "Pt Info.: " end =20 In result, I got ######### ##### DOB convert to number instead of DATE type as I wanted. And Status bar only appear: Pt Info.: Thank you very much for your help and have a great day! Kim Dang ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:01:10 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Michael Bruus Subject: Vedr.: [EPI-INFO] Revise .QES in EPIDATA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kim Dang wrote: > 1. Can we revise the .QES file in EPIDATA > without losing data as we can do in EPI6? Yes - use the function "Revise datafile from revised QES-file" found in = the Tools-menu. This functions works pretty much the same way as the same = function in Epi Info 6.04. But you should read in the helpfile how to use = this function. > 2. How can I combine fields of number, date to text type? > for example, I have > .QES > DOB > Chart ######## > Last > PtInfo ________________________________________ > >.CHK >PTINFO > let PTINFO=3D STRING(CHART) + " " +LAST+ " " + STRING(DOB) > type statusbar "Pt Info.: " >end =20 > In result, I got ######### ##### > DOB convert to number instead of DATE type as I wanted. > And Status bar only appear: Pt Info.: STRING(DOB) should return the date in a date-format, not the date-number. = This is a bug that will be corrected in the next version of EpiData. One way of getting around this problem could be: PtInfo=3DSTRING(CHART)+" "+LAST+" "+STRING(MONTH(DOB))+"/"+STRING(DAY(DOB))= +"/"+STRING(YEAR(DOB)) The TYPE STATUSBAR is not updated after using a LET-command. The text in = the statusbar is only updated during manual dataintry in the field or when = there is a change of record. This should be corrected in the next version = of EpiData, too. Michael Bruus EpiData Development Team ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:36:55 +0100 Reply-To: dr.j.b@gmx.de Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Joerg Subject: Error message: ".REC header too long!" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hallo, when I open a particular rec-file with analysis or enter, an error-message occurs: ".REC header too long!". Same file works on an other computer well. I have checked the header of the file for right number, which indicates the number of lines of header material that precede the data records. Any ideas? Thank you in advance. Joerg Dr. Joerg Burkowitz IGFP -Institut fuer Gesundheitswissenschaften in Forschung und Praxis Moltkestr. 20a 29223 Celle ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:49:22 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Joseph Schuchter Subject: FW: EpiInfo 6.01, Merging MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > I have been trying to mergre two datasets. Once is a .rec file originally > created in Epi Info. The other is a .dbf which I have imported into Epi > Info as a rec file. I have been struggling with this for a while, and I am > sure that the problem is as follows: the unique (key) id which is found in > both datasets has a different number format. In the original .rec file, > entered in Epi Info, this id has an integer number format. In the other > dataset, a .dbf, being imported into EpiInfo as a rec file, the id is in > real number format. I have tried to change to integer number format before > importing, but that hasn' worked. I have not found a way to change the > number format within Epi Info, even using the rec2qes option and > manipulating the .qes for the imported file. There seems to be some > internal, default coding mechanism which makes the datasets incompatible > and merging impossible, due to the different format of the numbers (real > and integer). Can anyone please help? My final option is to export and > merge outside of EpiInfo, but I would obviously prefer not to do this. > Thank you, Joe ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:07:46 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Giles Crane Subject: Re: FW: EpiInfo 6.01, Merging MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Joe, I don't believe it! There must be a way to make the ids compatiable. Did you consider the following steps: (1)reading the .dbf file and creating a .rec file, (2) creating an id field and setting this equal to the old field (3) Finally, dealing with the different name of the id field. If by merging you mean relating, converting the id field should be sufficient. If by merging you mean appending to the dataset, or updating, you may have to look at the other variables as well as the id field. Cordially GLC Giles Crane, M.Phil., MPH Research Scientist & Statistician 609 292-8012, -5666 glc@doh.state.nj.us From: L-Soft list server at CDC (1.8d) [LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 11:01 AM To: Steven S Yoon Subject: File: "EPI-INFO LOG0101E" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:16:26 +1300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Christine Roseveare Organization: Hutt Valley Health Subject: incubation programme epi6/epidata MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I have written a small programme in epi6 (DOS) to calculate incubation. It is designed for foodborne illness outbreaks where people have eaten from the same meal and a standard "exposure time" is used. For the analysis we define incubation as the time between this exposure time and and onset of the first major symptom (diarrhoea or vomiting). An example of the programme appears below (where meal was on 8/12/00 at 1pm). I want to build a "master" questionnaire in epidata for use in such outbreaks. (as for these we usually ask the same basic questions but just change the names of the foods according to the menu) I wondered if I could build something like this programme into the questionnaire via the check file. has anyone done something similar? If I renamed and saved the questionnaire would the check file be retained? Thanks Christine INC.PGM define incdaysd incdaysd = DIADATE - "01/12/2000" freq incdaysd define inctimed inctimed = diatime - 13.00 freq inctimed define incd incd = (INCDAYSd*24)+inctimed freq incd define incdaysv incdaysv = VOMDATE - "01/12/2000" freq incdaysv define inctimev inctimev = vomtime - 13.00 freq inctimev define incv incv = (INCDAYSv*24)+iNCTImev freq incv define incubation if incd < incv and incd <>. then incubation = incd if incd =. and incv <>. then incubation = incv if incd =. and incv =. then incubation =. if incd = incv then incubation = incd if incd > incv and incv <>. then incubation = incv if incd > incv and incv =. then incubation = incd freq incubation Christine Roseveare Regional Public Health Hutt Valley Health Corporation Ltd 570 9140 Fax 04 570 9212 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:19:31 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Wendell Harper Subject: Merging databases problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am trying to append two "Epi 2000" formatted databases together but keep getting a syntex error message that won't permit them to merge. Except for their titles, both databases are identical, i.e., they have identical fields and field formatting. My latest attempt, which failed, was the following: READ "Epi 2000" 'H:\Epi2000\Prot&Safety.mdb':viewOutofhomePlacementSurvey1 MERGE "Epi 2000" 'H:\Epi2000\OHPse.mdb':viewOutofhomePlacementSurvey1 APPEND LINKNAME= MergeTables1 ChildsSSN::ChildsSSN READ MergeTables1 The typical error message I get says: Syntax error in command: MERGE "Epi 2000" 'H:\Epi2000\OHPse.mdb':viewOutofhomePlacementSurvey1 LINKNAME=MergeTables1 APPEND I tried placing the word "APPEND" after the Linkname, in case the error message was telling me to do that, but I still got the same error message. Can anybody see what I'm doing wrong....and can suggest how to help me out? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank You! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:55:26 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Marc Strassburg Subject: Re: Merging databases problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html

Wendell: You might want to try this approach:

READ '\EPI2000\file1.mdb':xtable
WRITE REPLACE "Epi 2000" '\epi2000\Newfile.mdb':newtable *
READ '\EPI2000\file2.mdb':xtable
WRITE APPEND "Epi 2000" '\epi2000\Newfile.mdb':newtable *
READ '\EPI2000\BIRTHS\Newfile.mdb':newtable

Best.

Marc Strassburg

Los Angeles

>From: Wendell Harper
>Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group
>To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
>Subject: [EPI-INFO] Merging databases problem
>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:19:31 -0600
>
>I am trying to append two "Epi 2000" formatted databases together but keep
>getting a syntex error message that won't permit them to merge. Except for
>their titles, both databases are identical, i.e., they have identical
>fields and field formatting. My latest attempt, which failed, was the
>following:
>
>READ "Epi 2000" 'H:\Epi2000\Prot&Safety.mdb':viewOutofhomePlacementSurvey1
>MERGE "Epi 2000" 'H:\Epi2000\OHPse.mdb':viewOutofhomePlacementSurvey1
>APPEND
>LINKNAME= MergeTables1 ChildsSSN::ChildsSSN
>READ MergeTables1
>
>The typical error message I get says:
>
> Syntax error in command:
> MERGE "Epi 2000" 'H:\Epi2000\OHPse.mdb':viewOutofhomePlacementSurvey1
> LINKNAME=MergeTables1 APPEND
>
>I tried placing the word "APPEND" after the Linkname, in case the error
>message was telling me to do that, but I still got the same error message.
>Can anybody see what I'm doing wrong....and can suggest how to help me out?
>Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank You!

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From: L-Soft list server at CDC (1.8d) [LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 11:01 AM To: Steven S Yoon Subject: File: "EPI-INFO LOG0101D" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:30:51 +0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "azfar.siddiqi" Subject: Re: trend MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C08434.7BA6AAE0" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C08434.7BA6AAE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear Dr. Raveh If you have used Epi6 and are familiar with the 'Chi-square for trend' in that program, you shouldn't have any problems. It doesn't come out clearly from your e-mail but I think your data is categorical. If this is true Chi-square for trend should do nicely. For the data that you have in MS Excel you can use the 'save as' command and then save it as a database file (.dbf). Both programs Epiinfo and SPSS can read dbf files. The problem is that if you have your data on multiple sheets in Excel, you will have to save each sheet as a separate file. DBF does not support multiple sheets. I hope this helps. Good Luck! Dr. Azfar Siddiqi Senior Instructor Department of Community Health Sciences The Aga Khan University PO Box 3500 Karachi 74800 Pakistan. Phone: 92-21-48594899 92-21-4930051 Ext. 4899 E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu Official: Yes Budget code: 611 -----Original Message----- From: David Raveh [SMTP:ravehmed@HOTMAIL.COM] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 2:24 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] trend Dear Epi team - please post this request on the discussion group board. Twice the delivery failed. I am looking for a statistical test for trend: I have percentages of sensitivities (and the "n") of various bacteria against various antibiotics, across ten years. What is the statistical test to determine numerically if there is a trend for increasing resistance of some bacteria against some antibiotic over the years, or is it only variations without trend? I found that test in the PEPI programs under "TREND". It is a nice, free but a DOS based program, so I must insert every number manually. Once I made a mistake, I must type all from the beginning. I found TREND tests on the excellent Epi6.04c as well, but which test to use? will they retain the data for future analysis with the addition od another year's data? As I have many tables on Excel, is there a way to insert my data to Trend test via a "copy-paste" windows mode? I have SPSS 10.0 for windows, it mentions the TREND test but where is it in the program was not clear to me. Thank you all for the help, David Raveh, MD Infectious Diseases Unit Shaare Zedek Medical Center Jerusalem, Israel 91031 Work fax +972 2 666 6840 Home fax +972 2 656 4448 ravehmed@hotmail.com _____ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C08434.7BA6AAE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [EPI-INFO] trend
Dear Dr. Raveh

If you have used Epi6 and are familiar = with the 'Chi-square for trend' in that program, you shouldn't have any = problems. It doesn't come out clearly from your e-mail but I = think your data is categorical. If this is true Chi-square for = trend should do nicely.

For the data that you have in MS Excel = you can use the 'save as' command and then save it as a database file = (.dbf). Both programs Epiinfo and SPSS can read dbf files. The = problem is that if you have your data on multiple sheets in Excel, you = will have to save each sheet as a separate file. DBF does not = support multiple sheets.

I hope this helps. Good = Luck!

Dr. Azfar Siddiqi
Senior Instructor
Department of Community Health = Sciences
The Aga Khan University
PO Box 3500
Karachi 74800
Pakistan.

Phone: 92-21-48594899
        92-21-4930051 Ext. 4899

E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu

Official: Yes
Budget code: 611

-----Original = Message-----
From:   David Raveh = [SMTP:ravehmed@HOTMAIL.COM]
Sent:   Monday, January 22, 2001 2:24 AM
To:     EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject:       = [EPI-INFO] trend

Dear Epi team - please post this request on the = discussion group board. Twice=A0the delivery failed.
=A0
I am looking for a statistical test for = trend:=A0 I have percentages of sensitivities (and the "n") = of various bacteria against various antibiotics, across ten = years.=A0What is the statistical test to determine numerically if there = is a trend for increasing resistance=A0of some bacteria against some = antibiotic over the years, or is it only variations without = trend?

=A0
I found that test in the PEPI programs under = "TREND".=A0=A0It is a nice, free but=A0a DOS based program, = so I must insert every number manually.=A0 Once I made a mistake, I = must type all from the beginning.=A0=A0=A0 I found TREND tests on the = excellent=A0Epi6.04c as well, but which test to use? will they = retain=A0the data for future analysis with the addition od another = year's data?

As=A0I have many tables on Excel,=A0 is there a = way to insert my data to Trend test via a "copy-paste" = windows mode?=A0=A0=A0
I have SPSS 10.0 for windows, it mentions the = TREND test but where is it in the program was not clear to me.=A0 =
=A0
Thank you all for the help,

David Raveh, MD
Infectious Diseases Unit
Shaare Zedek Medical Center
Jerusalem, Israel 91031
Work fax +972 2 666 6840
Home fax +972 2 656 4448
ravehmed@hotmail.com

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C08434.7BA6AAE0-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:45:11 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Jill Tarasuk Subject: Response categories in PCA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Is it appropriate to conduct a principal components analysis if the original variables are measured on different scales (i.e., response to item 1 can range between 1 and 3, whereas the response categories to item 2 can range between 1 and 5)? Is there a debate about this issue? Does anyone know of suitable references which might clarify this and/or any other criteria applied to variables in the planning of a PCA? Thank-you for you time in considering this, Jill Tarasuk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:57:05 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Richard A Phaneuf Subject: epi map Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii By accident, I found a site that allows u to down a program called dxf3ds.zip which convert DXF files to SHP. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:35:54 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Giles Crane Subject: Re: Response categories in PCA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The usual principal components computation provides essentially the same principal components even when the scales of variables vary. Sometimes it is helpful numerically to standardize the variables by subtracting means and dividing by the standard deviations. Your question reveals that you need more insight into the nature of principal components calculations. For a manual method of computing principal components which provides insight, and other principal component analyses related to singular value decomposition, you might wish to check some of the papers of John Mandel, formerly of the National Bureau of Standards (now named something else). The journal Technometrics has some of John's papers. Cordially, Giles Crane Giles Crane, M.Phil., MPH Research Scientist & Statistician 609 292-8012, -5666 glc@doh.state.nj.us ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 20:00:30 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Leona Bassein Subject: Re: trend In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dear David Raveh, MD At 16.24 21/01/01 -0500, you wrote: >Dear Epi team - please post this request on the discussion group board. >Twice the delivery failed. I hope you find out why and will soon be able to send messages directly! Could it be the way the listserv interprets your return address? I had trouble with this some time ago; it was the hospital's mail server that did not send the return address reliably in the same way. You wrote: > >I am looking for a statistical test for trend: I have percentages of >sensitivities (and the "n") of various bacteria against various >antibiotics, across ten years. What is the statistical test to determine >numerically if there is a trend for increasing resistance of some bacteria >against some antibiotic over the years, or is it only variations without trend? Are you doing a multivariate analysis to consider your various bacteria and antibiotics simultaneously? Are there hierarchies or simplifications in your hypotheses (like methicillin resistance), which might reduce the dimensionality? How many years do you have? Do you consider 1 microbiological test/patient or do you include all microbiological test results on the same patient? I am studying resistance to antibiotics in hospitalized patients in an Italian hospital... I have read about the dbf solution offered later by Dr. Azfar Siddiqi and this sounds like a very good idea about how to transfer data. If there are many excel sheets you can preserve an existing relational database structure in EPI6 or if there are just different occasions without relational structure you can copy/paste all the data in one excel sheet and then export. I hope this helps, and I add my wish for peace in your area and in all the world. Leona Bassein ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:54:49 -0300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Dr Tomasini Subject: Re: epi map In-Reply-To: <852569DC.00636D9C.00@tc00tecpro00009.ssss.gouv.qc.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please, tell me which is the site to download dxf3ds.zip. Thanks Mario ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:16:06 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Posarini Massimo Subject: R: [EPI-INFO] epi map Comments: To: Dr Tomasini MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable use a search engine(e.g. google.com) and write down this research = string: ftp dxf3ds.zip you'll get in answer a list of 10~15 sites from which you can download = the file Massimo Posarini ___________________________________ Azienda per i Servizi Sanitari n=B0 1 Triestina Dipartimento di Prevenzione via Weiss 5 34127 TRIESTE (TS) Italy voce +39 0403997436 fax +39 0403997431 ---------- Da: Dr Tomasini [SMTP:aamfch@TELETEL.COM.AR] Inviato: marted=EC 23 gennaio 2001 11.55 A: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Oggetto: Re: [EPI-INFO] epi map Please, tell me which is the site to download dxf3ds.zip. Thanks Mario ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:17:19 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Luther, Jean" Subject: Re: epi map MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Can you give us the address? Jeannie Luther, RD jean.luther@fns.usda.gov -----Original Message----- From: Richard A Phaneuf [mailto:richard_phaneuf@SSSS.GOUV.QC.CA] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 12:57 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] epi map By accident, I found a site that allows u to down a program called dxf3ds.zip which convert DXF files to SHP. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 08:33:38 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Dean, Andrew G." Subject: FW: Trend MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C08541.17B68560" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C08541.17B68560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- From: David Raveh [mailto:ravehmed@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:58 PM To: agd1@cdc.gov; epiinfo@cdc1.cdc.gov Subject: Trend Dear Epi team - please post this request on the discussion group board. Once the delivery failed. I am looking for a statistical test for trend: I have percentages of sensitivities (and the "n") of various bacteria against various antibiotics, across ten years. What is the statistical test to determine numerically if there is a trend for increasing resistance of some bacteria against some antibiotic over the years, or is it only variations without trend? I found that test in the PEPI programs under "TREND". It is a nice, free but a DOS based program, so I must insert every number manually. Once I made a mistake, I must type all from the beginning. I found TREND tests on the excellent Epi6.04c as well, but which test to use? will they retain the data for future analysis with the addition od another year's data? As I have many tables on Excel, is there a way to insert my data to Trend test via a "copy-paste" windows mode? I have SPSS 10.0 for windows, it mentions the TREND test but where is it in the program was not clear to me. Thank you all for the help, David Raveh, MD Infectious Diseases Unit Shaare Zedek Medical Center Jerusalem, Israel 91031 Work fax +972 2 666 6840 Home fax +972 2 656 4448 ravehmed@hotmail.com _____ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C08541.17B68560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"

-----Original Message-----
From: David Raveh [mailto:ravehmed@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:58 PM
To: agd1@cdc.gov; epiinfo@cdc1.cdc.gov
Subject: Trend

Dear Epi team - please post this request on the discussion group board. Once the delivery failed.

I am looking for a statistical test for trend: I have percentages of sensitivities (and the "n") of various bacteria against various antibiotics, across ten years. What is the statistical test to determine numerically if there is a trend for increasing resistance of some bacteria against some antibiotic over the years, or is it only variations without trend?

I found that test in the PEPI programs under "TREND".  It is a nice, free but a DOS based program, so I must insert every number manually. Once I made a mistake, I must type all from the beginning.    I found TREND tests on the excellent Epi6.04c as well, but which test to use? will they retain the data for future analysis with the addition od another year's data?

As I have many tables on Excel, is there a way to insert my data to Trend test via a "copy-paste" windows mode?

I have SPSS 10.0 for windows, it mentions the TREND test but where is it in the program was not clear to me.

Thank you all for the help,

David Raveh, MD
Infectious Diseases Unit
Shaare Zedek Medical Center
Jerusalem, Israel 91031
Work fax +972 2 666 6840
Home fax +972 2 656 4448
ravehmed@hotmail.com

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C08541.17B68560-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:11:16 +0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Chris West Subject: Map files (.SHP) for EpiMap 2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Does anyone, especially in the UK, know of any source of .SHP files representing UK Disctrict Health Authorities for use by EpiMap 2000? If not, does anyone know of utilities for converting other map file formats (ArcInfo, Genesys zf19, Gimms, general .BNA, or MapInfo), or old EpiMap 2 .BND files, into .SHP? Thanks ---------------------- (Mr) Christopher R West, MA (Lecturer in Public Health Computing) Department of Public Health The University of Liverpool Whelan Building, Quadrangle Liverpool, UK L69 3GB Tel: +44 (0)151 794 5587 Fax: +44 (0)151 794 5588 e-mail: c.r.west@liv.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:23:09 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Posarini Massimo Subject: Re: epi map MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable here you'll find some sites where you can download the conversion = program. You can find them by yourself asking for the "ftp dxf3ds.zip" in the research string of some search engine(e.g. google) another way to get the file is searching in the wwwautodesk.com site... 3D Software: Converters = =20 ... dxf2dkb.zip; dxf2pv16.zip; dxf2tri.zip; dxf3ds.zip; = dxftoobj_perl.zip; gif2png.zip; lwtoiv ... wc2pov26.zip; wc2pov27.zip; xroads1.zip ... ftp.sgi.com/graphics/bin/ fromalias.Z ...=20 www.3dlinks.com/software_converters.cfm - 32k -=20 Ray Tracing FAQ =20 ... and can be found at: - = =20 ... loads of PC graphics stuff. * ftp.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.1.9 ... 1992, Coy, Barber, Daigle & Shiffman) * DXF3DS.ZIP - DXF to 3DS conversion program = ...=20 gpp.netfirms.com/3dgraphics/faq_cg_raytracing.txt - 66k -=20 Untitled =20 ... roms may be ftp'ed from: ftp.cdrom.com:cdrom/know_med/catalog.txt = ... 1992, Coy, Barber, Daigle & Shiffman) DXF3DS.ZIP -- DXF to 3DS conversion program. (1991 = ...=20 wuarchive.wustl.edu/graphics/mirrors/ftp.povray.org/povray/ Ray-Tracing-News/RTNv7n1 - 78k -=20 Ray Tracing News, Volume 7, Number 1 =20 ... roms may be ftp'ed from: ftp.cdrom.com:cdrom/know_med/catalog.txt. = ... 1992, Coy, Barber, Daigle & Shiffman) DXF3DS.ZIP -- DXF to 3DS conversion program. (1991 = ...=20 www.ccp14.ac.uk/ccp/ccp14/ftp-mirror/povray/pub/povray/Ray-Tracing-News/= rtnv7n1.html - 87k -=20 Index of /ftp/pub/mirror/avalon.viewpoint.com/utils/converters =20 Index of /ftp/pub/mirror/avalon.viewpoint.com/utils/converters. ... = 00:00 72k dxf3ds.d 28-May-96 00:00 1k dxf3ds.zip 28-May-96 00:00 144k dxftoobj.d 15-Sep-96 = 00 ...=20 stef.u-picardie.fr/ftp/pub/mirror/avalon.viewpoint.com/utils/ = converters/ - 12k -=20 Index of /ftp/mirror/avalon.viewpoint.com/utils/converters =20 Index of /ftp/mirror/avalon.viewpoint.com/utils/converters. ... 96 00:00 72k dxf3ds.d 28-May-96 00:00 1k dxf3ds.zip 28-May-96 00:00 144k dxftoobj.d 15-Sep-96 00 ...=20 stef.u-picardie.fr/ftp/mirror/avalon.viewpoint.com/utils/ converters/ - 12k -=20 Index of /pub/programming/mirror.avalon/utils/converters =20 ... 28-May-1996 12:55 1k dxf3ds.zip 28-May-1996 12:42 ... Jan-1997 = 18:06 485k xroads1.zip 30-Mar-1998 02:38 2.0 ... Apache/1.3.12 Server at = ftp.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de Port 80=20 ftp.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/pub/programming/mirror.avalon/utils/ = converters/ - 13k=20 Massimo Posarini ___________________________________ Azienda per i Servizi Sanitari n=B0 1 Triestina Dipartimento di Prevenzione via Weiss 5 34127 TRIESTE (TS) Italy voce +39 0403997436 fax +39 0403997431 Can you give us the address? Jeannie Luther, RD jean.luther@fns.usda.gov =20 -----Original Message----- From: Richard A Phaneuf [mailto:richard_phaneuf@SSSS.GOUV.QC.CA] =20 Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 12:57 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV =20 Subject: [EPI-INFO] epi map By accident, I found a site that allows u to down a program called dxf3ds.zip which convert DXF files to SHP. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:40:19 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Freund, Robert-Jean" Subject: do not read only to try sorry! Comments: To: "Groupe Epi-Info (Adresse de messagerie)" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain if you opened this message, I apologize to bother with this trial due to major problems in our server regards Robert J.FREUND Epidemiologiste, Professeur Ecole Nationale de la Sante Publique Av Prof Leon Bernard 35043 RENNES-Cedex France tel 33(0)2 99 02 28 62 fax 33(0)2 99 02 26 23 email ensp: rjfreund@ensp.fr http://www.ensp.fr international web mail : rfreund@voila.fr ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:48:05 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Marc Strassburg Subject: Re: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html

Maybe place THEN on the same line as IF.
Good Luck

>From: Cheraz Cherif
>Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group
>To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
>Subject: [EPI-INFO]
>Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 15:17:21 +0100
>
>Hi,
>I still have problems with epiinfo2000...could someone help me?
>I want to create a variable x and assign some values to it, considering
>certain conditions on the variables y , s and z.
>the program I'm using is, for example:
>
>define x
>assign x=0
>if ((y=5) or(s=7))
>then
>assign x=1
>end
>if ((x=1)) and (z=(+)))
>then
>assign
>x=2
>end
>
>
>and now, I use
>
>freq x
>
>but the result of this command is that all the values of x in the data
>assigned to "2" (the last value assigned to x in my program)...but if I use
>another software, as, for example
>"stata", to compute this variable, I obtain different values for x, as I
>expected (the right values). the problem is that I need to use epiinfo for
>my analysis, so I need to know how to compute such variables to continue my
>analysis.
>Does someone know what could be wrong in my program ???
>
>Thanks for reply.
>Regards.
>Cheraz.

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========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:58:19 -0200 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Abrantes =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ara=FAjo?= Silva Filho Subject: Epidemiological week in Epi6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear colleagues, I have a Epi6 surveillance database with a "date of event" variable. Is=20 there a routine (for .CHK) to calculate the epidemiological week from the=20 "date of event" in Enter? Thanks! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- Abrantes Ara=FAjo Silva Filho Mestrando em Sa=FAde P=FAblica/Epidemiologia Escola Nacional de Sa=FAde P=FAblca (ENSP/FIOCRUZ) Brazil abrantes_filho@uol.com.br abrantes@ensp.fiocruz.br +55 21 560-2209 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:56:05 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Jose Lozano Subject: Searching for an article about Multiple Sclerosis "Outbreak" in Faroe Islands (neurology) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0CHello: I am researching an suposed-to-be outbreak about "Multiple Sclerosis" (= the subject of the study was to know if it was a constant illness or if it changes alo= ng with the time). I have read some literacy, and all the subjects referred me to an artic= le about Multiple Sclerosis in Faroe Islands. It speaks about the contrast of homogenity in a Poisson Processes with = the input of times of detection of the illness. The problem was that the observed values was "confunded" by a Weibull d= istribution. I interpret is as a queue with Poisson Process as input and weibull as = serving times... All in all, the object of my message is the article that appeared at "N= eurology", 1986. I wonder if anyone has the article or access to the article to send it = to me by email. I havent found the reference yet: KURTZKE, J.K. and K. HYLLESTED (1986): Multiple Sclerosis in the Faroe = Islands II. Clinical update, transmission and the nature of MS. Neurology 36: 307-328 I'd appreciate any help. Best Regards Jose Lozano Servicio de Epidemiolog=EDa Consejer=EDa de Sanidad y Bienestar Social Junta de Castilla y Le=F3n ESPA=D1A email: Jose.Lozano@csbs.jcyl.es ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:55:16 -0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Phil Subject: Re: Map files (.SHP) for EpiMap 2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Chris, There are no public domain health authority (HA) boundary files available in the UK. Being an academic, you could download local authority (LA) boundaries from MIDAS and merge them to form HAs.... Most LAs are now coterminus with HAs. Both ESRI and MapInfo have utitlities to convert boundaries to .shp. Regards, Phil. > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris West [SMTP:c.r.west@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK] > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 6:11 PM > To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Subject: [EPI-INFO] Map files (.SHP) for EpiMap 2000 > > Does anyone, especially in the UK, know of any source of .SHP files > representing UK Disctrict Health Authorities for use by EpiMap 2000? > If not, does anyone know of utilities for converting other map file > formats > (ArcInfo, Genesys zf19, Gimms, general .BNA, or MapInfo), or old EpiMap 2 > .BND > files, into .SHP? > Thanks > ---------------------- > (Mr) Christopher R West, MA > (Lecturer in Public Health Computing) > Department of Public Health > The University of Liverpool > Whelan Building, Quadrangle > Liverpool, UK > L69 3GB > Tel: +44 (0)151 794 5587 > Fax: +44 (0)151 794 5588 > e-mail: c.r.west@liv.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:59:51 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Cheraz Cherif Subject: tables Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Hi, I would like to know if it it possible in analysis in epiinfo2000 to use tables and remove the percentages...since I need only the number of cases and the total...is there an optionnal command for that? thanks. cheraz cherif chargee de recherche IUMSP Switzerland. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:06:22 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Cheraz Cherif Subject: tables Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm sorry for that stupid question...I found the answer: set percents=off thanks cheraz ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:19:30 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Jens M. Lauritsen (JeL@sus.fyns-amt.dk)" Subject: Re: Epidemiological week calculation In-Reply-To: <200101250500.f0P509Y22740@appleton.uni2.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" re: Epidemiological week calculation With this check file you can do it in EpiData for 2001: Example should work for years 1999-2004. Note that in some countries weeks start on monday I think in others on sunday. QES: Test of calculation of weeks TestDate:
(works for years 1999-2004) TestYear: #### first day of week one in that year:
Week ## CHK file: before file define next
Help "Note week's start on monday's" end testyear noenter end week noenter end first noenter end testdate * range 01/01/1999 31/12/2004 after entry testyear = year(testdate) if year(testdate) = 1999 then next = "03/01/2000" first = "04/01/1999" endif if year(testdate) = 2000 then first = "03/01/2000" next = "01/01/2001" endif if year(testdate) = 2001 then first = "01/01/2001" next = "31/12/2001" endif if year(testdate) = 2002 then first = "31/12/2001" next = "30/12/2002" endif if year(testdate) = 2003 then first = "30/12/2002" next = "29/12/2003" endif if year(testdate) = 2004 then first = "29/12/2003" next = "03/01/2005" endif if (testdate = first) or (testdate >= next) then week = 1 else week = integer(1+((testdate-first)/7)) endif if (testdate < first) or (week = 53) then * note this should be refined for some years where week can be 53 week = 52 endif end end Idea is to specify the date which is the first day of week 1 in that year and then to finetune at the end of each year. the same principle should be rewriteable for epiinfo 6 based on some substrings or the alike. Above example downloadable from Http://www.epidata.dk - see examples We will add week number as a function in EpiData next release. Kindly Jens M.Lauritsen Kindly Jens M. Lauritsen, Senior Registrar, PhD. Fyns Amt (County of Fyn), Health Service Division e-mail: JM.Lauritsen@dadlnet.dk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:57:25 -0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Lucas Gonzalez Santa Cruz Subject: Epidemiological week in Epi6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0074_01C086B5.385263A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0074_01C086B5.385263A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! >I have a Epi6 surveillance database with a "date of event" variable. Is >there a routine (for .CHK) to calculate the epidemiological week from = the >"date of event" in Enter? I have used a way that helps us have the EpidWeek as a number and also as a string of text - from a PGM. I think it could be adapted for a CHK. Here they are. I hope it helps, Lucas =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D THE PGM APPROACH = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D *EpidWeek.PGM (!c) * *I created an EpidWeek.rec with yr ####, EpidWeek ##, FirstDay =
, *LastDay
, WeekText * *Then I filled it in, week by week: 2000, 1, 2/1/2000, 8/1/2000, "2nd - = 8th Jan 2000", etc. * *I keep it in a \ref (for "reference") directory so that I can use it in several *programs. I also copy it for colleagues. Type once, use many! *Ideally, if useful, this database could be included in Epi7 or a = website :-? * read \ref\EpidWeek.rec select yr =3D 2000 select EpidWeek =3D 1 define FirstWk1
glob FirstWk1 =3D FirstDay process *this puts "02/01/2000" in FirstWk1 - you could have done it *by hand and change it every year! * read DataFile.rec * this file has an EventDate
but we don't (yet) * know which EpidWeek it is. define EpidWeek ## EpidWeek =3D ((EventDate - FirstWk1) div 7) + 1 *this is it - now we can use EpidWeek for our purposes! * *If we typed or copied the EpidWeek.REC file, we can now *use the other variables in that file: *(I think KEY is needed in field EpidWeek of EpidWeek.CHK) * relate EpidWeek EpidWeek.REC write "Case: " CaseIdent "- Week: " EpidWeek " (" EpidWeek.WeekText ")" *this should give you: *Case 1 - Week 1 (2nd - 8th Jan 2000) *Case 2 - Week 7 (13th - 19th Feb 2000) *etc * *end of the .PGM file =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D THE .CHK APPROACH = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D *.chk file *I'm assuming we are in 2000 *We could perhaps make it more flexible if we have a BEFORE FILE block *that creates a FirstMondayOfTheYear global variable, to be used instead *of "02/01/2001". EventWeek EpidWeek =3D ((EventDate - "02/01/2000") div 7) + 1 END =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D that's all! ------=_NextPart_000_0074_01C086B5.385263A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi!

>I have a Epi6 surveillance database with a "date of = event"=20 variable. Is
>there a routine (for .CHK) to calculate the = epidemiological=20 week from the
>"date of event" in Enter?

I have = used a=20 way that helps us have the EpidWeek as a number
and also as a string = of text=20 - from a PGM.

I think it could be adapted for a CHK.

Here they = are.

I hope=20 it helps,

Lucas

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D THE PGM APPROACH=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

*EpidWeek.PGM (!c)
*
*I created an EpidWeek.rec with yr ####, = EpidWeek ##, FirstDay <dd/mm/yyyy>,
*LastDay = <dd/mm/yyyy>,=20 WeekText <A
>
*
*Then I filled it in, week by week: 2000, = 1,=20 2/1/2000, 8/1/2000, "2nd - 8th
Jan 2000", etc.
*
*I = keep it=20 in a \ref (for "reference") directory so that I can use it=20 in
several
*programs. I also copy it for colleagues. Type once, = use=20 many!
*Ideally, if useful, this database could be included in Epi7 or = a=20 website
:-?
*
read \ref\EpidWeek.rec
select yr =3D = 2000
select=20 EpidWeek =3D 1
define FirstWk1 <dd/mm/yyyy> glob
FirstWk1 = =3D=20 FirstDay
process
*this puts "02/01/2000" in FirstWk1 - = you could=20 have done it
*by hand and change it every year!
*
read=20 DataFile.rec
* this file has an EventDate <dd/mm/yyyy> but we = don't=20 (yet)
* know which EpidWeek it is.
define EpidWeek ##
EpidWeek = =3D=20 ((EventDate - FirstWk1) div 7) + 1
*this is it - now we can use = EpidWeek for=20 our purposes!
*
*If we typed or copied the EpidWeek.REC file, we = can=20 now
*use the other variables in that file:
*(I think KEY is needed = in=20 field EpidWeek of EpidWeek.CHK)
*
relate EpidWeek = EpidWeek.REC
write=20 "Case: " CaseIdent "- Week: " EpidWeek " = ("=20 EpidWeek.WeekText ")"
*this should give you:
*Case 1 - = Week 1=20 (2nd - 8th Jan 2000)
*Case 2 - Week 7 (13th - 19th Feb=20 2000)
*etc
*
*end of the .PGM file

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D THE .CHK APPROACH = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

*.chk file
*I'm assuming we are in 2000
*We could perhaps = make it=20 more flexible if we have a BEFORE FILE block
*that creates a=20 FirstMondayOfTheYear global variable, to be used instead
*of=20 "02/01/2001".
EventWeek
EpidWeek =3D ((EventDate -=20 "02/01/2000") div 7) + 1
END

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D that's all!
------=_NextPart_000_0074_01C086B5.385263A0-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:23:54 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Omar Maldonado Subject: Re: Epidemiological week in Epi6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! We are using a link to a recfile in the DATEOFEVENT field a codefield with EPIWEEK. This rec file contains every date from the year and the epidemilogical week. If you are interested in using this file (1998 - 2001), please e-mail me. Omar Maldonado A. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:20:43 -0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Claudia Lima Subject: Re: Epidemiological week in Epi6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Omar Maldonado To: Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Epidemiological week in Epi6 Hello Maldonado, I am interested in this rec file. My e-mail is cal97@ aber. ac. uk By for now. Claudia Lima. > Hi! > We are using a link to a recfile in the DATEOFEVENT field a codefield with EPIWEEK. > > This rec file contains every date from the year and the epidemilogical week. > If you are interested in using this file (1998 - 2001), please e-mail me. > > > Omar Maldonado A. > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:40:46 -0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ant=F3nio_Pina?= Subject: Fisher exact test MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C086ED.914EB700" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C086ED.914EB700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sometimes when we want a Chi-squared test the EpiInfo tell us we should = prefer the Fisher exact test, but it gives us 2 option: the one tailed = "p" and the two tailed "p" for Fisher exact test. What option should we choose? Pina (Portugal) ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C086ED.914EB700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sometimes when we want a Chi-squared = test the=20 EpiInfo tell us we should prefer the Fisher exact test, but it gives us = 2=20 option: the one tailed "p" and the two tailed "p" for Fisher exact=20 test.

What option should we = choose?

Pina

(Portugal)

------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C086ED.914EB700-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:04:58 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Giles Crane Subject: Re: Fisher exact test MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi there. If you "know" the direction of the comparison, use the one-tailed test. To "know" the direction means that you can state absolutely that the data effect should be in one direction. If you cannot state such absolutely, then use the two-tailed test. Cordially, Giles Giles Crane, M.Phil., MPH Research Scientist & Statistician 609 292-8012, -5666 glc@doh.state.nj.us ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:17:14 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Dean, Andrew G." Subject: Course Announcement--Epi Info 2000 for Teachers of Epidemiology a nd Computing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Epi Info 2000: A Course for Teachers of Epidemiologic Computing CDC and Emory University's Rollins School of Public Health will co-sponsor a course, "Epi Info 2000: A Course for Teachers of Epidemiologic Computing" on March 12-15, 2001, at Emory University. The course is designed for teachers of epidemiologic computing with intermediate to advanced skills in computing. The 4-day course covers hands-on experience with the new windows version of Epi Info, programming Epi Info software at the intermediate to advanced level, methods of teaching epidemiologic computing, computerized interactive exercises for teaching epidemiology and computing. There is a tuition charge. Application deadline is February 1, 2001. Additional information and applications are available from Emory University, The Rollins School of Public Health, International Health Dept(Pia)., 1518 Clifton Rd. NE, Rm. 746, Atlanta, GA 30322; telephone (404) 727-3485; fax (404) 727-4590; or email pvaleri@sph.emory.edu. Andrew G. Dean, MD, MPH Epi Info Development Team Division of Public Health Surveillance and Informatics Epidemiology Program Office, Mailstop K74 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Atlanta, GA 30341-3717 Telephone (770) 488 8432 agd1@cdc.gov ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 00:56:09 +0100 Reply-To: Jens Koehler Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Jens Koehler Subject: Re: Map files (.SHP) for EpiMap 2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- Von: "Chris West" An: Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. Januar 2001 19:11 Betreff: [EPI-INFO] Map files (.SHP) for EpiMap 2000 > Does anyone, especially in the UK, know of any source of .SHP files > If not, does anyone know of utilities for converting other map file formats > (ArcInfo, Genesys zf19, Gimms, general .BNA, or MapInfo), or old EpiMap 2 .BND > files, into .SHP? I have not found any resources for smaller scale maps for germany either. MAPSCAN, and POPMAP by the UN (can be found with www.google.de for example) are probably possible, but not very easy to handle solutions. Jens Koehler ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:08:51 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Jens M. Lauritsen (JeL@sus.fyns-amt.dk)" Subject: Re: Searching for an article about Multiple Sclerosis "Outbreak" In-Reply-To: <200101260500.f0Q507Y12177@appleton.uni2.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Niels Koch Henriksen made a doctoral thesis on the subject of that. Contact him at the danish institute of public health Http://www.dike.dk for references. Kindly Jens M. Lauritsen, Senior Registrar, PhD. Fyns Amt (County of Fyn), Health Service Division e-mail: JM.Lauritsen@dadlnet.dk ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:27:05 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Jose Lozano Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_Re:_[EPI-INFO]_Searching_fo?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?r_an_article_about_Multiple_Sclerosis=0D?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=0A______________"Outbre?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?ak"?= In-Reply-To: <"/GUID:Qay8TLTMuMC41LjMyLjIwMA"@MHS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0CHi: > Niels Koch Henriksen made a doctoral thesis on the subject of that. C= ontact > him at the danish institute of public health Http://www.dike.dk for > references. Thanks for the link. Unfortunately i have no idea of Danish, and the en= glish part of the web have a broken link in the "structure image", so i have no id= ea of where to go... Any help is welcome on the exact link. Best Regards Jose Lozano Servicio de Epidemiolog=EDa Consejer=EDa de Sanidad y Bienestar Social Junta de Castilla y Le=F3n ESPA=D1A email: Jose.Lozano@csbs.jcyl.es ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 17:47:11 +0100 Reply-To: Liliana Chiocci Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Liliana Chiocci Subject: Course About How to use EPI2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I would like to know if someone is using EPIINFO 2000 in Ecuador because I need help to use EPI 2000. Liliana Chiocci Tel 00 593 (0) 2 54 34 16 __________________________________ l.chiocci@attglobal.net Calle Equinoccio N17-27 y Rufino Mar�n Quito Ecuador ______________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 17:44:57 -0200 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Gerson Zanetta de Lima Subject: Real numbers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On trying to make views I can use only integers, not real numbers. Any sugestions? Thank you, Gerson Zanetta de Lima zanetta@sercomtel.com.br From: L-Soft list server at CDC (1.8d) [LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 11:01 AM To: Steven S Yoon Subject: File: "EPI-INFO LOG0101C" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:30:10 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Jens M. Lauritsen (JeL@sus.fyns-amt.dk)" Subject: EpiData version 1.3 released Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" MS Sans SerifGood colleques The version 1.3 of EpiData is available for download from: 0000,0000,ffffhttp://www.epidata.dk (freeware) EpiData is a windows implementation for dataentry following the QES/CHK/REC file system and structure of EpiInfo version 6. EpiData is freeware and comes as a one in all exe file. Documentation available as windows help files and pdf files. Total size for download of setup disk is 1.1 Mb. Epidata is NOT for analysis of data, but a condensed frequency table and lists of data can be made. Files can be analysed directly in EpiInfo version 6, Pepi for windows, EpiInfo 2000 or other programs able to read REC files. EpiData can export data to dbase III, comma separated, excel and stata v4-6 formats. Variable and value labels only to stata. For a complete list of changes from version 1.2 to 1.3 see 0000,0000,ffffhttp://www.epidata.dk/history.htm Major enhancements from version 1.2-1.3 are: -Specification of color and shape of dataentry field. Lineheight of dataentry form. The addition of dataentry Notes following the REC file. Implementation of more CHECK commands: color selection in TYPE, legal use, Period (.) can be used in if ... then and let expressions, Date constants, e.g. "22/09/1967", Before file, after file, before record, after record blocks, Temporary variables (define ....). CONFIRM, CONFIRMFIELD, AUTO, -Search faster and expanded to three different search criteria. Search through 80000 records pn pentium 200 Mhz: Find with index key: 0.6 seconds. Find again momentarily (0.1 second). Without index: 15 sec. -Bug-Fix of all identified bugs Next (and final planned) release will include relate datafiles during dataentry, merge and more options for export. Expected with a few months. Kindly Jens M.Lauritsen. Funen County, Denmark For general comments on EpiData use info@epidata.dk For personal communication use: JM.Lauritsen@dadlnet.dk. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 15:17:21 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Cheraz Cherif Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, I still have problems with epiinfo2000...could someone help me? I want to create a variable x and assign some values to it, considering certain conditions on the variables y , s and z. the program I'm using is, for example: define x assign x=0 if ((y=5) or(s=7)) then assign x=1 end if ((x=1)) and (z=(+))) then assign x=2 end and now, I use freq x but the result of this command is that all the values of x in the data assigned to "2" (the last value assigned to x in my program)...but if I use another software, as, for example "stata", to compute this variable, I obtain different values for x, as I expected (the right values). the problem is that I need to use epiinfo for my analysis, so I need to know how to compute such variables to continue my analysis. Does someone know what could be wrong in my program ??? Thanks for reply. Regards. Cheraz. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:54:20 -0500 Reply-To: barbara.mazer@mcgill.ca Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Barbara Mazer Subject: unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------3B599B5A57D1A0D44057A01F" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3B599B5A57D1A0D44057A01F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe --------------3B599B5A57D1A0D44057A01F Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="bmazer2.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Barbara Mazer Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="bmazer2.vcf" begin:vcard n:Mazer;Barbara x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Jewish Rehabilitation Hospital;Research Center version:2.1 email;internet:bmazer2@po-box.mcgill.ca adr;quoted-printable:;;3205 Place Alton Goldbloom=0D=0A=0D=0A;Laval;Quebec;H7V 1R2;Canada fn:Barbara Mazer end:vcard --------------3B599B5A57D1A0D44057A01F-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:28:51 -0300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Dr Tomasini Subject: Importing Autocad files? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010115151721.008137d0@hola.hospvd.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have maps designed with autocad14 (.dwg files). How can I use them whith epimap? Mario ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:10:55 +1300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Rupthi De Zoysa Subject: testing for statistical significance MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C07FF7.E5372520" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C07FF7.E5372520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Seasons Greetings from New Zealand - I have a bunch of population statistics - primary data that I have used to calculate a standardized mortality rate using a technique called indirect standardization, how can I do this in epiinfo 2000 so that I can extract p values to see if the excess I am finding is statistically significant and also work out some confidence intervals? thanks, Rupthi ------_=_NextPart_001_01C07FF7.E5372520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable testing for statistical significance
Seasons Greetings from New Zealand = -
        I have a bunch of population statistics - primary data = that I have used to calculate a standardized mortality rate using a = technique called indirect standardization, how can I do this in epiinfo = 2000 so that I can extract p values to see if the excess I am finding = is statistically significant and also work out some confidence = intervals?

thanks, Rupthi
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------=_NextPart_000_025C_01C0805B.4175EAC0-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:53:00 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Richard A Phaneuf Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9f._:_indirect_and_direct_standardized_mortalit?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?y_ratios?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i also would like to calculate smr's and map them... i can not get around to it for several months. i would encourage the cdc to develope basic techniques for mortality, morbitity, and life-expectancy analysis. Please let me know if you try to do it alone. I would like to here about it if some has doen this in access or excel. richard_phaneuf@ssss.gouv.qc.ca ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:01:20 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Jodi R. Perin" Subject: assigning codes to variables In-Reply-To: <852569D6.00788DEC.00@tc00tecpro00009.ssss.gouv.qc.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm planning to export the data from an epi-info database into SPSS. I'd= like to design some of the variables in the view so that the answers are numeric, e.g. when entering data, "sex" is either 1(male) 2(female) or 3(= unknown). The legal code button allows me to enter the codes, but it doesn't 'hide= ' them. Ideally I'd like the data entry folks to be able to click on the question, see that 1=3Dmale, etc., and then type in _only_ a number. Doe= s anyone know if this can be done in epi-info (it can in statistical packag= es like SPSS)? thanks! Jodi ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:32:14 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Cheraz Cherif Subject: IF condition Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, I asked a question about defining and assigning values to variables using the if condition in epiinfo2000 last monday but no one replied ... In fact, I gave an example of a program , but it was not excactly the same that I used. I think that there are 2 problems: 1. when I use for example: define x assign x=9 IF ((x=0) or (x=5)) or\ (v=7) Then assign x=3 end -> the "if condition" doesn't work when it is very long ( for example 12 conditions on an existing variable), even if I use "\" at the end of each long line....but I need that kind of long conditions.... 2. when I use for example define x assign x=9 IF y=0 then assign x=2 end IF v=7 then assign x=3 end .... if I continue defining the values of x with many conditions, say, I repeat 30 times that kind of assignment, and I run the program, I have a warning message saying that the expression is too complex...is there a limit ???? and is it possible to solve my problem ???? thank you for reply... Regards. Cheraz Cherif Chargee de recherche IUMSP- USS. Switzerland. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:01:04 +0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "azfar.siddiqi" Subject: Re: IF condition Comments: cc: Cheraz.Cherif@INST.HOSPVD.CH MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0806C.674E1E50" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0806C.674E1E50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, I tried the program that you sent with your previous e-mail (Given below - bold italicized). define x assign x=0 if ((y=5) or(s=7)) then assign x=1 end if ((x=1)) and (z=(+))) then assign x=2 end It worked fine on my computer. I used a sample data set and was able to assign values conditioned on four different variables to a newly created variable. Yes, when you have too many conditions the program doesn't work. In Epi 6, I was once trying to add the values from 26 different variables and it didn't work, so I defined 4 different variables and summed a separate set of five variables into each one of them and finally added the new variables and the one that remained (26th). May be you can try a similar approach. Good Luck, Dr. Azfar Siddiqi Senior Instructor Department of Community Health Sciences The Aga Khan University PO Box 3500 Karachi 74800 Pakistan. Phone: 92-21-48594899 92-21-4930051 Ext. 4899 E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu Official: Yes Budget code: 611 -----Original Message----- From: Cheraz Cherif [SMTP:Cheraz.Cherif@INST.HOSPVD.CH] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 1:32 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] IF condition Hi, I asked a question about defining and assigning values to variables using the if condition in epiinfo2000 last monday but no one replied ... In fact, I gave an example of a program , but it was not excactly the same that I used. I think that there are 2 problems: 1. when I use for example: define x assign x=9 IF ((x=0) or (x=5)) or\ (v=7) Then assign x=3 end -> the "if condition" doesn't work when it is very long ( for example 12 conditions on an existing variable), even if I use "\" at the end of each long line....but I need that kind of long conditions.... 2. when I use for example define x assign x=9 IF y=0 then assign x=2 end IF v=7 then assign x=3 end .... if I continue defining the values of x with many conditions, say, I repeat 30 times that kind of assignment, and I run the program, I have a warning message saying that the expression is too complex...is there a limit ???? and is it possible to solve my problem ???? thank you for reply... Regards. Cheraz Cherif Chargee de recherche IUMSP- USS. Switzerland. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0806C.674E1E50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [EPI-INFO] IF condition
Hi,

I tried the program that you sent with = your previous e-mail (Given below - bold italicized).

define x
assign x=3D0
if ((y=3D5) = or(s=3D7))
then
assign x=3D1
end
if ((x=3D1)) and = (z=3D(+)))
then
assign
x=3D2
end

It worked fine on my computer. I = used a sample data set and was able to assign values conditioned on four different = variables to a newly created = variable. Yes, when you have too many conditions the program = doesn't work. In Epi 6, I was once trying to add the values from = 26 different variables and it didn't work, so I defined 4 different = variables and summed a separate set of five variables into each one of = them and finally added the new variables and the one that remained = (26^th). May be you can try a similar = approach.

Good Luck,

Dr. Azfar Siddiqi
Senior Instructor
Department of Community Health = Sciences
The Aga Khan University
PO Box 3500
Karachi 74800
Pakistan.

Phone: 92-21-48594899
        92-21-4930051 Ext. 4899

E-mail: azfar.siddiqi@aku.edu

Official: Yes
Budget code: 611

-----Original = Message-----
From:   Cheraz Cherif = [SMTP:Cheraz.Cherif@INST.HOSPVD.CH]
Sent:   Wednesday, January 17, 2001 1:32 PM
To:     EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject:       = [EPI-INFO] IF condition

Hi,
I asked a question about defining and = assigning values to variables using
the if condition in epiinfo2000 = last monday but no one replied ...
In fact, I gave an example of a = program , but it was not excactly the same
that I used. I think that there = are 2 problems:

1. when I use for example:
define x
assign x=3D9
IF ((x=3D0) or (x=3D5)) or\
(v=3D7) Then
assign x=3D3
end

-> the "if condition" = doesn't work when it is very long ( for example 12
conditions on an existing variable), = even if I use "\" at the end of each
long line....but I need that kind of = long conditions....

2. when I use for example

define x
assign x=3D9
IF y=3D0 then
assign x=3D2
end
IF v=3D7 then
assign x=3D3
end
....
if I continue defining the values of = x with many conditions, say, I repeat
30 times that kind of assignment, and = I run the program, I have a warning
message saying that the expression is = too complex...is there a limit ????
and is it possible to solve my = problem ????

thank you for reply...
Regards.

Cheraz Cherif
Chargee de recherche
IUMSP- USS.
Switzerland.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0806C.674E1E50-- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:22:15 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Cheraz Cherif Subject: Re: IF condition In-Reply-To: <168116D665B8D4118CCC0000E22BCD0E9C6B9A@jami.aku.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" that's right! the example Arialdefine x Arialassign x=0 Arialif ((y=5) or(s=7)) Arialthen Arialassign x=1 Arialend Arialif ((x=1)) and (z=(+))) Arialthen Arialassign Arialx=2 Arialend works, but it was not the exact problem I had, I gave you a wrong example because I didn't know what was the bug, so I simplified my program to ask the question... now, I really think that using more than 2 conditions in the IF condition doesn't work and that the bug is there ! but, even if I use other intermediate variables, say having the value 1 or 0 for example for 2 conditions and regroup them finely 2 by 2 in the final condition, to evoid having long if conditions, I also have the problem that the expression is too complex... I don't know if there is a way to save a current file in epiinfo while using Analysis, because I could save the value of the variable and read the saved file containing this variable and continue assigning the other values ??? Cheraz At 15:01 17.01.2001 +0500, you wrote: >>>> ArialHi, ArialI tried the program that you sent with your previous e-mail (Given below - bold italicized). Arialdefine x Arialassign x=0 Arialif ((y=5) or(s=7)) Arialthen Arialassign x=1 Arialend Arialif ((x=1)) and (z=(+))) Arialthen Arialassign Arialx=2 Arialend ArialIt worked fine on my computer. I used a sample data set and was able to assign values Arialconditioned on four different variables to a newly created variable. Yes, when you have too many conditions the program doesn't work. In Epi 6, I was once trying to add the values from 26 different variables and it didn't work, so I defined 4 different variables and summed a separate set of five variables into each one of them and finally added the new variables and the one that remained (26th). May be you can try a similar approach. ArialGood Luck, ArialDr. Azfar Siddiqi ArialSenior Instructor ArialDepartment of Community Health Sciences ArialThe Aga Khan University ArialPO Box 3500 ArialKarachi 74800 ArialPakistan. ArialPhone: 92-21-48594899 Arial92-21-4930051 Ext. 4899 ArialE-mail: <Arial0000,0000,ffffazfar.siddiqi@aku.edu ArialOfficial: Yes ArialBudget code: 611 Arial-----Original Message----- ArialFrom: Cheraz Cherif [SMTP:Cheraz.Cherif@INST.HOSPVD.CH] ArialSent: ArialWednesday, January 17, 2001 1:32 PM ArialTo: ArialEPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV ArialSubject: Arial[EPI-INFO] IF condition ArialHi, ArialI asked a question about defining and assigning values to variables using Arialthe if condition in epiinfo2000 last monday but no one replied ... ArialIn fact, I gave an example of a program , but it was not excactly the same Arialthat I used. I think that there are 2 problems: Arial1. when I use for example: Arialdefine x Arialassign x=9 ArialIF ((x=0) or (x=5)) or\ Arial (v=7) Then Arialassign x=3 Arialend Arial-> the "if condition" doesn't work when it is very long ( for example 12 Arialconditions on an existing variable), even if I use "\" at the end of each Ariallong line....but I need that kind of long conditions.... Arial2. when I use for example Arialdefine x Arialassign x=9 ArialIF y=0 then Arialassign x=2 Arialend ArialIF v=7 then Arialassign x=3 Arialend Arial.... Arialif I continue defining the values of x with many conditions, say, I repeat Arial30 times that kind of assignment, and I run the program, I have a warning Arialmessage saying that the expression is too complex...is there a limit ???? Arialand is it possible to solve my problem ???? Arialthank you for reply... ArialRegards. ArialCheraz Cherif ArialChargee de recherche ArialIUMSP- USS. ArialSwitzerland. <<<<<<<< ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:40:07 +0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "azfar.siddiqi" Subject: Re: IF condition MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0807A.3D88E100" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0807A.3D88E100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi again, This may not be the best thing to do, but I think it will work if you make intermediate variables as you suggested. Yes it will make the whole process tedious but it won't really be that complicated. Sure you can save the current file in Epiinfo while using analysis. You can do so by using the 'WRITE' command and giving a different name to the new file. Good Luck! Azfar Official: Yes Budget code: 611 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0807A.3D88E100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [EPI-INFO] IF condition
Hi again,

This may not be the best thing to do, = but I think it will work if you make intermediate variables as you = suggested. Yes it will make the whole process tedious but it = won't really be that complicated.

Sure you can save the current file in = Epiinfo while using analysis. You can do so by using the 'WRITE' = command and giving a different name to the new file.

Good Luck!

Azfar

Official: Yes
Budget code: 611
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0807A.3D88E100-- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:07:30 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Jens M. Lauritsen (JeL@sus.fyns-amt.dk)" Subject: Re: Subject: assigning codes to variables In-Reply-To: <200101170500.f0H50kY20583@appleton.uni2.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" "Jodi R. Perin" asked ".....like the data entry folks to be able to click on the question .... ", Does anyone know if this can be done in epi-info (it can in statistical packages like SPSS)? thanks! <<<<<<<< Epidata can do it. The program writes REC files that can be analysed in epiinfo v6, epi2k or exported to any program which can read dbf, excel or stata files. A small example will show how - expand as you wish: QES file: sex Gender of respondent # Born Date of Birth <
Work Went to work yesterday # Change This record saved < ID Id number of respondent < the check file for epidata could be written as in epiifo v6: Courier Newborn range 01/01/1980 01/01/2001 end sex comment legal 1 Male 2 Female 9 Unknown END work comment legal 1 yes 2 no end end EpiData will read this file, but if you use the EpiData check file writer function (add/revise checks). Then epidata would write the same information as this (comment legals/labels are collected in a labelblock) : Courier NewLABELBLOCK LABEL sex 1 Male 2 Female 9 Unknown END LABEL yn 1 yes 2 no END END born range 01/01/1980 01/01/2001 end sex COMMENT LEGAL USE sex END work COMMENT LEGAL USE yn END During data entering the person can either write 1 in sex or hit the grey + button on the right hand side of the keyboard and point at "male" which will enter a 1 in the field sex. If you wish to have the screen show the word male (---female) on the screen in green color after entry you would in the checkfile instead write. sex type comment green COMMENT LEGAL USE sex END And if you wished to be able to see the id number during dataentry on the statusbar at bottom of the screen you would include another block: id type statusbar "id = " end After entry of data further parts of epidata helps in documenting the data: In EpiData ask for a "Datafile Documentation" you get this table: (if your mail program does not support long lines some of the lines will be word wrapped) Boldfix DATAFILE: C:\data\test\test.rec Filelabel: [none] Filesize: 459 bytes Last revision: 17. jan 2001 13:38 Number of fields: 5 Number of records: 3 Checks applied: Yes (Last revision 17. jan 2001 13:33) Fields in datafile: No. Name Variable label Fieldtype Width Checks Value labels ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1 sex Gender of Integer 1 sex respondent 1: Male 2: Female 9: Unknown 2 born Date of Birth Date (dmy) 10 Legal: 01/01/1980-01/01/200 1 3 work Went to work Integer 1 yn yesterday 1: yes 2: no 4 change This record Today date-dmy 10 saved 5 id Id number of ID-number 5 respondent ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And you could be the EpiData function "codebook" get a raw table: BoldfixCODEBOOK ======== Report generated 17. jan 2001 13:41 Datafile: C:\data\test\test.rec File label: (None) File date: 17. jan 2001 13:38 Checks applied: Yes (last revision: 17. jan 2001 13:33) Number of fields: 5 Records total: 3 Deleted records: 0 Used in codebook: 3 records sex ------------------------------------------------------- Gender of respondent type: Integer value labels: sex missing: 0/3 range: [1,2] unique values: 2 tabulation: Freq. Pct. Value Label 1 33.3 1 Male 2 66.7 2 Female born ------------------------------------------------------------- Date of Birth type: Date (dmy) range/legal: 01/01/1980-01/01/2001 missing: 0/3 range: [21/12/1988,12/12/1989] unique values: 2 work ---------------------------------------------------- Went to work yesterday type: Integer value labels: yn missing: 1/3 range: [1,1] unique values: 2 tabulation: Freq. Pct. Value Label 1 33.3 . 2 66.7 1 yes change ------------------------------------------------------- This record saved type: Today (dmy) missing: 0/3 range: [17/01/2001,17/01/2001] unique values: 1 id ----------------------------------------------------- Id number of respondent type: ID-number missing: 0/3 unique values: 3 Finally you might wish to export data to SPSS. Either just use dbaseII or excel or to Stata format via StatTransfer. The table in Stata looks: (output from stata 6 on the file produced by epidata): . tab1 sex work -> tabulation of sex Gender of | respondent | Freq. Percent Cum. ------------+----------------------------------- Male | 1 33.33 33.33 Female | 2 66.67 100.00 ------------+----------------------------------- Total | 3 100.00 -> tabulation of work Went to | work | yesterday | Freq. Percent Cum. ------------+----------------------------------- yes | 2 100.00 100.00 ------------+----------------------------------- Total | 2 100.00 or a list of the data entered: . list sex born work change id 1. M 12dec1989 y 17jan2001 1 2. F 12dec1989 y 17jan2001 2 3. F 21dec1988 . 17jan2001 3 . list, nolabel sex born work change id 1. 1 12dec1989 1 17jan2001 1 2. 2 12dec1989 1 17jan2001 2 3. 2 21dec1988 . 17jan2001 3 . With next release we will most likely include spss as well for exports (depending on funding), such that for spss and stata you get the data coded numerically and the data specification containing the numerical code as well as the labels for values and variables. The labels follows the data to Stata (and later to SPSS) Kindly Jens M.lauritsen For more information on epidata, see: Http://www.epidata.dk >>>> Jodi <<<<<<<< Kindly Jens M. Lauritsen, Senior Registrar, PhD. Fyns Amt (County of Fyn), Health Service Division e-mail: JM.Lauritsen@dadlnet.dk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:53:58 +1100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Meredith Caelli Subject: Time / date format in EpiInfo 2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ** High Priority ** As I have received no replys for my help message I decided to send it = again in the hope some-one can help me resolve the problem=20 Hi can any-one explain the date/time format in Epi2000 to me I have added the combined field to my qustionnaire: DD-MM-YYYY HH:MM:SS AMPM when entering the data D:15/09/2000 T:15:30:00 PM it converts the time part of the entry to D:15/09/2000 T:00:15:30.=20 I understand the program is using the twenty four hour clock, but why is = it moving the seconds in front of the hours? and is there any way I can = stop it doing this? Kind Regards Meredith Caelli Hunter Public Health Unit PO Box 466 WALLSEND NSW 2287 Telephone: 612 49 246335 Fax: 612 49 246490=20 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:06:29 +0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Josemar A. Mercado, MD, FACS" Subject: Re: Time / date format in EpiInfo 2000 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it possilbe for you to separate the date and time fields? Josemar A. Mercado, MD, FACS Associate Professor in Surgery Cebu Doctors' College of Medicine CDC Administration Offices Bldg. M. Zosa cor. Don J. Avila St. Cebu City, Philippines 6000 -----Original Message----- From: Epi Info Discussion Group [mailto:EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV]On Behalf Of Meredith Caelli Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 5:54 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Time / date format in EpiInfo 2000 ** High Priority ** As I have received no replys for my help message I decided to send it again in the hope some-one can help me resolve the problem Hi can any-one explain the date/time format in Epi2000 to me I have added the combined field to my qustionnaire: DD-MM-YYYY HH:MM:SS AMPM when entering the data D:15/09/2000 T:15:30:00 PM it converts the time part of the entry to D:15/09/2000 T:00:15:30. I understand the program is using the twenty four hour clock, but why is it moving the seconds in front of the hours? and is there any way I can stop it doing this? Kind Regards Meredith Caelli Hunter Public Health Unit PO Box 466 WALLSEND NSW 2287 Telephone: 612 49 246335 Fax: 612 49 246490 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:01:10 +1300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Rupthi De Zoysa Subject: Re: Time / date format in EpiInfo 2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C080D1.21881320" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C080D1.21881320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Meredith - I remeber reading at least 2 emails about that this week I think they were words to the effect of that's just hte way it is and there is nothing you can do about it Rupthi -----Original Message----- From: Meredith Caelli [mailto:HunMcael@DOH.HEALTH.NSW.GOV.AU] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 10:55 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Time / date format in EpiInfo 2000 ** High Priority ** As I have received no replys for my help message I decided to send it again in the hope some-one can help me resolve the problem Hi can any-one explain the date/time format in Epi2000 to me I have added the combined field to my qustionnaire: DD-MM-YYYY HH:MM:SS AMPM when entering the data D:15/09/2000 T:15:30:00 PM it converts the time part of the entry to D:15/09/2000 T:00:15:30. I understand the program is using the twenty four hour clock, but why is it moving the seconds in front of the hours? and is there any way I can stop it doing this? Kind Regards Meredith Caelli Hunter Public Health Unit PO Box 466 WALLSEND NSW 2287 Telephone: 612 49 246335 Fax: 612 49 246490 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C080D1.21881320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [EPI-INFO] Time / date format in EpiInfo 2000
Hi Meredith - I remeber reading at least 2 emails = about that this week I think they were words to the effect of that's = just hte way it is and there is nothing you can do about it

Rupthi

-----Original Message-----
From: Meredith Caelli [mailto:HunMcael@DOH.HEALT= H.NSW.GOV.AU]
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 10:55 AM
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: [EPI-INFO] Time / date format in EpiInfo = 2000

** High Priority **

As I have received no replys for my help message I = decided to send it again in the hope some-one can help me resolve the = problem

Hi

can any-one explain the date/time format in Epi2000 = to me

I have added the combined field to my = qustionnaire:
DD-MM-YYYY HH:MM:SS AMPM

when entering the data

D:15/09/2000 T:15:30:00 PM

it converts the time part of the entry to

D:15/09/2000 T:00:15:30.

I understand the program is using the twenty four = hour clock, but why is it moving the seconds in front of the hours? and = is there any way I can stop it doing this?

Kind Regards

Meredith Caelli
Hunter Public Health Unit
PO Box 466
WALLSEND NSW 2287
Telephone: 612 49 246335
Fax:          = ;     612 49 246490
------_=_NextPart_001_01C080D1.21881320-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:08:27 +0100 Reply-To: amerigo.zona@iss.it Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Amerigo Zona Subject: Generalized estimating equations (GEE) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C08171.464E2D70" Messaggio in formato MIME composto da piy parti. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C08171.464E2D70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear colleagues, I have just read a paper discussing the GEE approach to analyse lung function changes over time in a longitudinal study. Does anyone know if I could use Epi-Info 2000 to try the same statistical approach? Thanks a lot. Amerigo ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C08171.464E2D70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear=20 colleagues,

I have = just read a=20 paper discussing the GEE approach to analyse lung function changes over = time in=20 a longitudinal study. Does anyone know if I could use Epi-Info 2000 to = try the=20 same statistical approach? Thanks a lot.

Amerigo
------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C08171.464E2D70-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:32:03 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Robert Baer Subject: Re: Time / date format in EpiInfo 2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a wild shot in the dark, but I seem to remember that some time = translation schemes use a decimal point to fix seconds. You might try = D:15/09/2000 T:15:30:00.0 PM and see if the last part of the time phrase = gets included. Sorry for a possibly ignorant reply, but you sound like = maybe guesses are useful. Rob Baer _____________________________ Robert W. Baer, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Physiology Director of Educational Technology Kirksville College of Osteopathic Medicine >>> HunMcael@DOH.HEALTH.NSW.GOV.AU 01/17/01 03:53PM >>> ** High Priority ** As I have received no replys for my help message I decided to send it = again in the hope some-one can help me resolve the problem=20 Hi can any-one explain the date/time format in Epi2000 to me I have added the combined field to my qustionnaire: DD-MM-YYYY HH:MM:SS AMPM when entering the data D:15/09/2000 T:15:30:00 PM it converts the time part of the entry to D:15/09/2000 T:00:15:30.=20 I understand the program is using the twenty four hour clock, but why is = it moving the seconds in front of the hours? and is there any way I can = stop it doing this? Kind Regards Meredith Caelli Hunter Public Health Unit PO Box 466 WALLSEND NSW 2287 Telephone: 612 49 246335 Fax: 612 49 246490=20 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:29:58 -0300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Dr Tomasini Subject: RV: Importing Autocad files? Comments: cc: cesiythecat@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Mensaje original----- De: Dr Tomasini [mailto:aamfch@teletel.com.ar] Enviado el: Martes, 16 de Enero de 2001 03:29 p.m. Para: Epi Info Discussion Group Asunto: Importing Autocad files? I have maps designed with autocad14 (.dwg files). How can I use them whith epimap? Mario ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:24:03 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: David Raveh Subject: trend Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html

Dear Epi team - please post this request on the discussion group board. Twice the delivery failed.

I am looking for a statistical test for trend: I have percentages of sensitivities (and the "n") of various bacteria against various antibiotics, across ten years. What is the statistical test to determine numerically if there is a trend for increasing resistance of some bacteria against some antibiotic over the years, or is it only variations without trend?

I found that test in the PEPI programs under "TREND".  It is a nice, free but a DOS based program, so I must insert every number manually. Once I made a mistake, I must type all from the beginning.    I found TREND tests on the excellent Epi6.04c as well, but which test to use? will they retain the data for future analysis with the addition od another year's data?

As I have many tables on Excel, is there a way to insert my data to Trend test via a "copy-paste" windows mode?

I have SPSS 10.0 for windows, it mentions the TREND test but where is it in the program was not clear to me.

Thank you all for the help,

David Raveh, MD
Infectious Diseases Unit
Shaare Zedek Medical Center
Jerusalem, Israel 91031
Work fax +972 2 666 6840
Home fax +972 2 656 4448
ravehmed@hotmail.com

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From: L-Soft list server at CDC (1.8d) [LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 11:01 AM To: Steven S Yoon Subject: File: "EPI-INFO LOG0101B" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:36:42 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Jose Lozano Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_Re:_[EPI-INFO]_[OT]_FW:_O?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?ut_of_Office_AutoReply:_[EPI-INFO]=0D=0A?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?______________transfer?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=0D=0A______________data?= In-Reply-To: <"/GUID:QaygTJjA0NmUwMWMwNzcxYQ"@MHS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0CHi, Vegard: >Dear Jose, >The Epi Info list is one of the lists I apreciate most, because I like= Epi Info and use it quite a bit, I learn from the list, and I often ge= t to-the-point advice from the world >leading experts (you guys) when I= have problems. I don't consider the out of office autoreplies a big pr= ice to pay. In most e-mailclients you can easily create filters, for >e= xample one that moves all messages where sender is the epi info list, a= nd the subject contains the word "autoreply" to the trash folder, and y= ou will never be >annoyed by these messages again.=20 >Vegard Hoegli I uses x.400 mail, that it is only supported by Ms Exchange program (up= to my actual knowledgement). The only programs that supports reading msexchange mailbox are (again, as far as i know, all coments on= this are welcome) Exchange, IsoPro and Outlook (not the Express version, but the original one). This mail clients does not support filters, so all my messages arrives = at a single mailbox (called "inbox"), and does not support, for example, replying with '>'. They are old clients, and it is suposed not= to make any difficult tasks... (in fact the only utility is that it downloads my mail...) Best regards Jose Lozano Servicio de Epidemiolog=EDa Consejer=EDa de Sanidad y Bienestar Social Junta de Castilla y Le=F3n ESPA=D1A email: Jose.Lozano@csbs.jcyl.es ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:48:01 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Cheraz Cherif Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" hi, I'm using epiinfo2000, Analysis. I would like to know if it is possible to define a new variable having the same values as an existing variable. for example, I would like to affect the values of an existing variable y to a new variable x. I used: define x permanent assign x=y but I have a warning message : left-side variable must have a fixed value... could someone help me, please? thanks Cheraz. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:27:51 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Robert Baer Subject: Re: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cheraz, Try making 'x' a 'standard' variable insead of 'permenant' variable . If = you want the assignment to be permenant in the sense of being a new column = then 'write' the result back to your file. Hope this helps Rob Baer _____________________________ Robert W. Baer, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Physiology Director of Educational Technology Kirksville College of Osteopathic Medicine >>> Cheraz.Cherif@INST.HOSPVD.CH 01/08/01 02:48AM >>> hi, I'm using epiinfo2000, Analysis. I would like to know if it is possible to define a new variable having the same values as an existing variable. for example, I would like to affect the values of an existing variable y = to a new variable x. I used: define x permanent assign x=3Dy but I have a warning message : left-side variable must have a fixed = value... could someone help me, please? thanks Cheraz. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:29:18 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Zubieta, Juan" Subject: Re: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain It seems like you are attempting to use a permanent variable in a different environment. Different from permanent variables, which are stored in the INI file and can take one and only one value, standard variables are defined as SQL statements for the current database, so that you will see one value per record. Permanent variables were designed to store "Permanent" data, such as the current year or in a multi-state application the state where data is collected (Things that will not change with every record). Let's say you wish to open viewOswego and then define a variable called "SICK" (without the quotes) and you whish to store the value of "ILL" in sick, the code should look like: READ viewOswego DEFINE Sick ASSIGN Sick = ILL In the previous case, Sick will have the same value ILL has. In fact you can list sick and Epi Info will return 75 values. On the other hand, If you define Sick as Permanent. It is like you were trying to store 75 values into one single cell. It is not going to work. There is a similar behavior in EPI6 using the command IMMEDIATE. I think that your problem is inappropriate use of permanent variables. Please try with standard variables. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Cheraz Cherif [mailto:Cheraz.Cherif@INST.HOSPVD.CH] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 3:48 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] hi, I'm using epiinfo2000, Analysis. I would like to know if it is possible to define a new variable having the same values as an existing variable. for example, I would like to affect the values of an existing variable y to a new variable x. I used: define x permanent assign x=y but I have a warning message : left-side variable must have a fixed value... could someone help me, please? thanks Cheraz. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:13:03 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sarah Knowlton Subject: Creating Age as a variable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there! I am just wondering how I would go about creating the variable AGE from a person's Date of Birth? thanks!!! Sarah -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:04:40 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Jamie Hockin Subject: Re: Creating Age as a variable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=4cWJjlznaUVKOgH0UEhgNZLBjjodVn9IbKymxRGKANkcHfvL8900R96l" --0__=4cWJjlznaUVKOgH0UEhgNZLBjjodVn9IbKymxRGKANkcHfvL8900R96l Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sarah: Epi6: define age ### age =3D (datenow - datebirth) div 365.25 * this is approximate (may be off by one year when close to actual birt= hday) Epi2000: DEFINE age ASSIGN age=3Dyears(datebirth,datenow) * this will be exact years between the two dates Jamie Hockin Field Epidemiology Training Program, Centre for Surveillance Coordinati= on Population and Public Health Branch, Health Canada Programme de formation en =E9pid=E9miologie d'intervention, Centre de l= a coordination de la surveillance Direction g=E9n=E9rale de la sant=E9 de la population et de la sant=E9 = publique, Sant=E9 Canada Sarah Knowlton on 09/01/2001 12:13:03 PM Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group = To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV cc: (bcc: Jamie Hockin) Subject: [EPI-INFO] Creating Age as a variable = --0__=4cWJjlznaUVKOgH0UEhgNZLBjjodVn9IbKymxRGKANkcHfvL8900R96l Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi there! I am just wondering how I would go about creating the variable AGE from a person's Date of Birth? thanks!!! Sarah -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca --0__=4cWJjlznaUVKOgH0UEhgNZLBjjodVn9IbKymxRGKANkcHfvL8900R96l-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:01:09 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sarah Knowlton Subject: Re: Creating Age as a variable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------4A16E4F3D301181079803AD4" --------------4A16E4F3D301181079803AD4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jamie, Thanks so much! I appreciate it! I'll give it a go! Sarah Jamie Hockin wrote: > Sarah: > > Epi6: > define age ### > age = (datenow - datebirth) div 365.25 > * this is approximate (may be off by one year when close to actual birthday) > > Epi2000: > DEFINE age > ASSIGN age=years(datebirth,datenow) > * this will be exact years between the two dates > > Jamie Hockin > Field Epidemiology Training Program, Centre for Surveillance Coordination > Population and Public Health Branch, Health Canada > > Programme de formation en �pid�miologie d'intervention, Centre de la > coordination de la surveillance > Direction g�n�rale de la sant� de la population et de la sant� publique, Sant� > Canada > > Sarah Knowlton on 09/01/2001 12:13:03 PM > > Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group > > To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > cc: (bcc: Jamie Hockin) > > Subject: [EPI-INFO] Creating Age as a variable > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Hi there! > > I am just wondering how I would go about creating the variable AGE from > a person's Date of Birth? > > thanks!!! > > Sarah > > -- > Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant > Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening > Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 > email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca --------------4A16E4F3D301181079803AD4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jamie,
Thanks so much!
I appreciate it! I'll give it a go!
Sarah
Jamie Hockin wrote:
Sarah:
Epi6:
define age ###
age = (datenow - datebirth) div 365.25
* this is approximate (may be off by one year when close to actual birthday)
Epi2000:
DEFINE age
ASSIGN age=years(datebirth,datenow)
* this will be exact years between the two dates
Jamie Hockin
Field Epidemiology Training Program, Centre for Surveillance Coordination
Population and Public Health Branch, Health Canada
Programme de formation en épidémiologie d'intervention, Centre de la
coordination de la surveillance
Direction générale de la santé de la population et de la santé publique, Santé
Canada
Sarah Knowlton <sarahkn@CANCERBOARD.AB.CA> on 09/01/2001 12:13:03 PM
Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group <EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV>
To:   EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
cc:    (bcc: Jamie Hockin)
Subject: [EPI-INFO] Creating Age as a variable
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Hi there!
I am just wondering how I would go about creating the variable AGE from
a person's Date of Birth?
thanks!!!
Sarah
--
Sarah Knowlton   Research Assistant
Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening
Phone: 403.670.4477        Fax:   403.270.8003
email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca

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Sarah Knowlton   Research Assistant
Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening
Phone: 403.670.4477        Fax:   403.270.8003
email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca
--------------4A16E4F3D301181079803AD4-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:11:22 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sarah Knowlton Subject: Re: Creating Age as a variable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jamie, I tried doing what you said to do in Epi6 to calculate age, but for some reason Epi6 doesn't like "datenow". Was I supposed to put in the actual date? thanks Sarah Jamie Hockin wrote: > Sarah: > > Epi6: > define age ### > age = (datenow - datebirth) div 365.25 > * this is approximate (may be off by one year when close to actual birthday) > > Epi2000: > DEFINE age > ASSIGN age=years(datebirth,datenow) > * this will be exact years between the two dates > > Jamie Hockin > Field Epidemiology Training Program, Centre for Surveillance Coordination > Population and Public Health Branch, Health Canada > > Programme de formation en �pid�miologie d'intervention, Centre de la > coordination de la surveillance > Direction g�n�rale de la sant� de la population et de la sant� publique, Sant� > Canada > > Sarah Knowlton on 09/01/2001 12:13:03 PM > > Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group > > To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > cc: (bcc: Jamie Hockin) > > Subject: [EPI-INFO] Creating Age as a variable > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Hi there! > > I am just wondering how I would go about creating the variable AGE from > a person's Date of Birth? > > thanks!!! > > Sarah > > -- > Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant > Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening > Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 > email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:34:49 -0400 Reply-To: diag-ssa@entelchile.net Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Epidemiolog=EDa-Servicio_de_Salud_Atacama?= Subject: Re: Creating Age as a variable In-Reply-To: <3A5B706A.3D63D801@cancerboard.ab.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi: In EPI6 you can use: SYSTEMDATE this system variable holds the date from the PC clock. or define newdate newdate = "01/09/2001" age= ((newdate-birthdate)/365.25) Hope this helps Omar Maldonado Servicio de Salud Atacama Chile http://www.saludatacama.cl > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Epi Info Discussion Group [mailto:EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV]En > nombre de Sarah Knowlton > Enviado el: Martes, 09 de Enero de 2001 16:11 > Para: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Asunto: Re: [EPI-INFO] Creating Age as a variable > > > Jamie, > > I tried doing what you said to do in Epi6 to calculate age, but > for some reason > Epi6 doesn't like "datenow". Was I supposed to put in the actual date? > > thanks > Sarah > > Jamie Hockin wrote: > > > Sarah: > > > > Epi6: > > define age ### > > age = (datenow - datebirth) div 365.25 > > * this is approximate (may be off by one year when close to > actual birthday) > > > > Epi2000: > > DEFINE age > > ASSIGN age=years(datebirth,datenow) > > * this will be exact years between the two dates > > > > Jamie Hockin > > Field Epidemiology Training Program, Centre for Surveillance > Coordination > > Population and Public Health Branch, Health Canada > > > > Programme de formation en �pid�miologie d'intervention, Centre de la > > coordination de la surveillance > > Direction g�n�rale de la sant� de la population et de la sant� > publique, Sant� > > Canada > > > > Sarah Knowlton on 09/01/2001 12:13:03 PM > > > > Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group > > > > To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > > cc: (bcc: Jamie Hockin) > > > > Subject: [EPI-INFO] Creating Age as a variable > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Hi there! > > > > I am just wondering how I would go about creating the variable AGE from > > a person's Date of Birth? > > > > thanks!!! > > > > Sarah > > > > -- > > Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant > > Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening > > Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 > > email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca > > -- > Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant > Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening > Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 > email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:18:34 +1300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Rupthi De Zoysa Subject: unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C07A82.36C65A80" This message is in MIME format. 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Kind Regards Meredith Caelli Hunter Public Health Unit PO Box 466 WALLSEND NSW 2287 Telephone: 612 49 246477 Fax: 612 49 246490=20 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:40:23 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Kara Linttell." Subject: FYI (Re: Virus Warning] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii FWD Message: This is an URGENT WARNING FROM MICROSOFT (VIRUS) 1. There is a new virus - WOBBLER. It will arrive on e-mail titled "CALIFORNIA". IBM and AOL have announced that it is very powerful, more so than Melissa, there is no remedy. It will eat all your information on the hard drive and also destroys Netscape Navigator and Microsoft Internet Explorer. Do not open anything with this title and please pass this message on to all your contacts and anyone who uses your e-mail facility. Not many people seem to know about this yet so propagate it as fast as possible. 2. If you receive an e-mail titled "Win A. Holiday" DO NOT open it. It will erase everything on your hard drive. Forward this letter to as many people as you can. This is a new, very malicious virus. **end** ______________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:32:31 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Marc Strassburg Subject: SCSI Drives and EPIINFO 2000 Comments: cc: rhray@hotmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Has anyone experienced problems with installing Epi2000 on Systems which have SCSI controllers? ---such as getting an "Insufficient Termination" error message after install. Or for that matter if you have not had problems I would like to hear that too. Thanks Marc Strassburg Los Angeles _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:07:32 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Joyce Demonnin Subject: Re: FYI (Re: Virus Warning] Before posting a computer virus alert, take a minute to check it out at http://www.vmyths.com/ This is a list of all virus hoaxes known to be circulating, such as the wobbler. One "symptom" of a virus is the tag line - forward this to as many people as you can. Joyce > ---------- > From: Kara Linttell.[SMTP:Kara_Linttell@HC-SC.GC.CA] > Reply To: Epi Info Discussion Group > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:40 PM > To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Subject: [EPI-INFO] FYI (Re: Virus Warning] > > FWD Message: > > This is an URGENT WARNING FROM MICROSOFT (VIRUS) > > 1. There is a new virus - WOBBLER. It will arrive on e-mail titled > "CALIFORNIA". IBM and AOL have announced that it is very powerful, more > so > than Melissa, there is no remedy. It will eat > all your information on the hard drive and also destroys Netscape > Navigator > and Microsoft Internet Explorer. Do not open anything with this title and > please pass this message on to all your contacts and anyone who uses your > e-mail facility. Not many people seem to know about this yet so propagate > it > as fast as possible. > > 2. If you receive an e-mail titled "Win A. Holiday" DO NOT open it. It > will > erase everything on your hard drive. Forward this letter to as many > people > as you can. This is a new, very malicious virus. > > **end** > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:21:31 +1100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Elise Benyon Subject: Re: FYI (Re: Virus Warning] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or check to this address too: From The Trend Micro Virus Hoax Encyclopedia: http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/hoaxes/hoax.asp =20 Hoax Name: California/Wobbler Virus Hoax Description: This is a hoax email that warns that if you receive an = email with a file attachment called 'california', you should not open the = file. The email warns that the file contains the 'Wobbler' virus, which it = says deletes all the files on your hard disk. The email claims that the = virus 'destroys' Netscape Navigator or Internet Explorer and can work in PC = and Mac environments. Like most hoaxes, the email urges users to pass the message along to everyone you know. The email message also says that = IBM and AOL have announced that this virus is very powerful, more so than = Melissa, and that there is no remedy. This is false. There is no Wobbler virus = with the payload described in this email message. Please do not perpetuate = this computer myth by passing along this chain email. It only wastes = bandwidth and un-necessarily alarms other computer users. -----Message d'origine----- De: Joyce Demonnin [ mailto:Joyce_Demonnin@CO.WASHINGTON.OR.US ] Date: mercredi 10 janvier 2001 09:08 =C0: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Objet: Re: [EPI-INFO] FYI (Re: Virus Warning] Before posting a computer virus alert, take a minute to check it out at http://www.vmyths.com/ =20 This is a list of all virus hoaxes known to be circulating, such as the wobbler. One "symptom" of a virus is the tag line - forward this to as = many people as you can. Joyce > ---------- > From: Kara Linttell.[SMTP:Kara_Linttell@HC-SC.GC.CA] > Reply To: Epi Info Discussion Group > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:40 PM > To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Subject: [EPI-INFO] FYI (Re: Virus Warning] > > FWD Message: > > This is an URGENT WARNING FROM MICROSOFT (VIRUS) > > 1. There is a new virus - WOBBLER. It will arrive on e-mail titled > "CALIFORNIA". IBM and AOL have announced that it is very powerful, = more > so > than Melissa, there is no remedy. It will eat > all your information on the hard drive and also destroys Netscape > Navigator > and Microsoft Internet Explorer. Do not open anything with this title = and > please pass this message on to all your contacts and anyone who uses = your > e-mail facility. Not many people seem to know about this yet so = propagate > it > as fast as possible. > > 2. If you receive an e-mail titled "Win A. Holiday" DO NOT open it. = It > will > erase everything on your hard drive. Forward this letter to as many > people > as you can. This is a new, very malicious virus. > > **end** > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:19:48 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Kelly Service Subject: Re: FYI (Re: Virus Warning] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please unsubscribe. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Demonnin" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] FYI (Re: Virus Warning] > Before posting a computer virus alert, take a minute to check it out at > http://www.vmyths.com/ > > This is a list of all virus hoaxes known to be circulating, such as the > wobbler. One "symptom" of a virus is the tag line - forward this to as many > people as you can. > > Joyce > > > ---------- > > From: Kara Linttell.[SMTP:Kara_Linttell@HC-SC.GC.CA] > > Reply To: Epi Info Discussion Group > > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:40 PM > > To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > > Subject: [EPI-INFO] FYI (Re: Virus Warning] > > > > FWD Message: > > > > This is an URGENT WARNING FROM MICROSOFT (VIRUS) > > > > 1. There is a new virus - WOBBLER. It will arrive on e-mail titled > > "CALIFORNIA". IBM and AOL have announced that it is very powerful, more > > so > > than Melissa, there is no remedy. It will eat > > all your information on the hard drive and also destroys Netscape > > Navigator > > and Microsoft Internet Explorer. Do not open anything with this title and > > please pass this message on to all your contacts and anyone who uses your > > e-mail facility. Not many people seem to know about this yet so propagate > > it > > as fast as possible. > > > > 2. If you receive an e-mail titled "Win A. Holiday" DO NOT open it. It > > will > > erase everything on your hard drive. Forward this letter to as many > > people > > as you can. This is a new, very malicious virus. > > > > **end** > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:42:03 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Matt Snell Subject: Re: Creating Age as a variable Comments: To: sarahkn@CANCERBOARD.AB.CA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sarah, The calculated age you get will depend on what point in the patient's life = you want to know his/her age. Many who create databases in Epi Info will = want to know the age of the person at onset of symptoms or age at = diagnosis or something like that. You'll need to use... (the field name of the date when you want to know the age - dob)/365.25 If you've already got a database and need to calculate the Age in = ANALYSIS, you'll want to follow Jamie Hockin's advice, except that when he = used "datenow", he was referring to the date at which you want to know the = patient's age whether it's systemdate, date of onset, date of vasectomy, = or whatever. You can also calculate the age automatically when creating a questionnaire = in EPED or Makeview with a Check program. Hope this helps, matt Matt Snell, MPH Epidemiologist St. Luke's Regional Medical Center Boise, ID 83712 snellm@slrmc.org >>> Sarah Knowlton 01/09/01 01:11PM >>> Jamie, I tried doing what you said to do in Epi6 to calculate age, but for some = reason Epi6 doesn't like "datenow". Was I supposed to put in the actual date? thanks Sarah Jamie Hockin wrote: > Sarah: > > Epi6: > define age ### > age =3D (datenow - datebirth) div 365.25 > * this is approximate (may be off by one year when close to actual = birthday) > > Epi2000: > DEFINE age > ASSIGN age=3Dyears(datebirth,datenow) > * this will be exact years between the two dates > > Jamie Hockin > Field Epidemiology Training Program, Centre for Surveillance Coordination= > Population and Public Health Branch, Health Canada > > Programme de formation en =E9pid=E9miologie d'intervention, Centre de la > coordination de la surveillance > Direction g=E9n=E9rale de la sant=E9 de la population et de la sant=E9 = publique, Sant=E9 > Canada > > Sarah Knowlton on 09/01/2001 12:13:03 PM > > Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group > > To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV=20 > cc: (bcc: Jamie Hockin) > > Subject: [EPI-INFO] Creating Age as a variable > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > Hi there! > > I am just wondering how I would go about creating the variable AGE from > a person's Date of Birth? > > thanks!!! > > Sarah > > -- > Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant > Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening > Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 > email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca=20 -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca=20 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:35:46 -0500 Reply-To: jkort@ureach.com Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Jack Ort Subject: Keep an Audit Trail in Epi2000? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I'm new to EpiInfo, and trying to evaluate it for use as a rapid development tool for small, one-time databases of clinical data which must be hand-entered from paper forms, cleaned and passed on for analysis/verification. My reading of the documentation so far indicates it would have a quicker setup time than the home-grown application we are currently using, but I have one requirement that I'm not sure can be implemented -- should be able to maintain every record entered as an audit record, with a date/time stamp and userID. In other words, once a record is entered, it should not be deleted but if it needs to be changed the existing record should get marked as an audit record and a new record (with the change) should be created with current date/time. Not asking for how to do this (but if someone has an example that would be welcome!) - rather just want to know if people with a solid grasp of Epi2000 think this is possible. Many thanks in advance! Jack Ort Austin, Texas ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:27:50 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Kim Dang Subject: Using If then in CHK of EpiData Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear EPI Group, I am learning how to use EPIDATA. I like to use it very much, very easy to enter especially the format is = very nice! Would you please help me to fix the following CHK file for EPIDATA using IF THEN statement! Because it won't show the result of variable UNDERWT in the ENTER FILE. Thank you very much for your help! Kim Dang .QES SEX: WTDX: ###.### HTDX: #.### BMI: ###.### UNDERWT: .CHK HTDX =20 AFTER ENTRY CLEAR BMI CLEAR UNDERWT LET BMI=3D( WTDX / (HTDX * HTDX) ) IF (SEX=3D"F" AND bmi<=3D15.725) THEN UNDERWT=3D"Y" ELSE IF (SEX=3D"M" and bmi<=3D16.575) THEN UNDERWT=3D"Y" ELSE IF (SEX=3D"F" AND bmi>15.725) THEN UNDERWT=3D"N" ELSE IF (SEX=3D"M" AND bmi>16.575) THEN UNDERWT=3D"N" ENDIF ENDIF ENDIF ENDIF END END BMI =20 NOENTER BEFORE ENTRY CLEAR BMI LET BMI=3D( WTDX / (HTDX * HTDX) ) END END UNDERWT =20 NOENTER BEFORE ENTRY CLEAR UNDERWT IF (SEX=3D"F" AND bmi <=3D 15.725) THEN UNDERWT=3D"Y" ELSE IF (SEX=3D"M" and bmi<=3D16.575) THEN UNDERWT=3D"Y" ELSE IF (SEX=3D"F" AND bmi>15.725) THEN UNDERWT=3D"N" ELSE IF (SEX=3D"M" AND bmi>16.575) THEN UNDERWT=3D"N" ENDIF ENDIF ENDIF ENDIF END END =20 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:28:55 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Hao Trinh Organization: Calgary Regional Health Authority Subject: Re: unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------FE4DB55D2A6C4F19A4AF2770" --------------FE4DB55D2A6C4F19A4AF2770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe Rupthi De Zoysa wrote: > > > unsubscribe --------------FE4DB55D2A6C4F19A4AF2770 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe
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Thanks in advance, Pedro ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:08:07 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Michael Bruus Subject: Re: Using If then in CHK of EpiData Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kim Dang, I'm afraid that you have found two bugs in EpiData version 1.2. First bug = is that you must use single quotes (') instead of double quotes (") in LET = and IF sentences. The second bug is that EpiData 1.2 can't assign values = to -fields using LET commands. Both bugs will be corrected in EpiData version 1.3 which can be found in = www.EpiData.dk from the 15th January 2001. While you wait for version 1.3 of EpiData you can do the following: 1) Change UNDERWT to a 1-digit integer field 2) Change the double quotes (") in IF-commands to single quotes (') By the way: You don't need the BEFORE ENTRY blocks in BMI and UNDERWT. = Both fields are NOENTER and therefore the BEFORE ENTRY blocks are never = called. Make you qes-file like this: SEX: WTDX: ###.### HTDX: #.### BMI: ###.### UNDERWT: # And your chk-file like this: HTDX =20 AFTER ENTRY CLEAR BMI CLEAR UNDERWT LET BMI=3D( WTDX / (HTDX * HTDX) ) IF (SEX=3D'F') AND (bmi<=3D15.725) THEN LET UNDERWT=3D1 ELSE IF (SEX=3D'M') and (bmi<=3D16.575) THEN LET UNDERWT=3D1 ELSE IF (SEX=3D'F') AND (bmi>15.725) THEN LET UNDERWT=3D0 ELSE IF (SEX=3D'M') AND (bmi>16.575) THEN LET UNDERWT=3D0 ENDIF ENDIF ENDIF ENDIF END END BMI =20 NOENTER END UNDERWT =20 NOENTER END I'm sorry for the inconveniance, but please remember that EpiData is still = under development. A list of known bugs in EpiData 1.2 can be found in = www.epidata.dk.=20 Michael Bruus >>> kim.dang@HHS.CO.SANTA-CLARA.CA.US 10-01-01 00:27 >>> Dear EPI Group, I am learning how to use EPIDATA. I like to use it very much, very easy to enter especially the format is = very nice! Would you please help me to fix the following CHK file for EPIDATA using IF THEN statement! Because it won't show the result of variable UNDERWT in the ENTER FILE. Thank you very much for your help! Kim Dang .QES SEX: WTDX: ###.### HTDX: #.### BMI: ###.### UNDERWT: .CHK HTDX =20 AFTER ENTRY CLEAR BMI CLEAR UNDERWT LET BMI=3D( WTDX / (HTDX * HTDX) ) IF (SEX=3D"F" AND bmi<=3D15.725) THEN UNDERWT=3D"Y" ELSE IF (SEX=3D"M" and bmi<=3D16.575) THEN UNDERWT=3D"Y" ELSE IF (SEX=3D"F" AND bmi>15.725) THEN UNDERWT=3D"N" ELSE IF (SEX=3D"M" AND bmi>16.575) THEN UNDERWT=3D"N" ENDIF ENDIF ENDIF ENDIF END END BMI =20 NOENTER BEFORE ENTRY CLEAR BMI LET BMI=3D( WTDX / (HTDX * HTDX) ) END END UNDERWT =20 NOENTER BEFORE ENTRY CLEAR UNDERWT IF (SEX=3D"F" AND bmi <=3D 15.725) THEN UNDERWT=3D"Y" ELSE IF (SEX=3D"M" and bmi<=3D16.575) THEN UNDERWT=3D"Y" ELSE IF (SEX=3D"F" AND bmi>15.725) THEN UNDERWT=3D"N" ELSE IF (SEX=3D"M" AND bmi>16.575) THEN UNDERWT=3D"N" ENDIF ENDIF ENDIF ENDIF END END =20 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:29:26 +0000 Reply-To: J.B.Moody@liverpool.ac.uk Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Barry Moody Subject: Validate In-Reply-To: <02F7F33BA18CD311B9EE00204804BCB50156E483@br1msg02.brazil.glaxo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Is the Epi6 DOS Validate module available with Epi 2000? Barry Moody _________________________________________________________________________ Barry Moody Unit for Statistics and Epidemiology mt04@liv.ac.uk Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine Voice: +44 (0)151 708 9393 x 2279 Pembroke Place Fax: +44 (0)151 708 5233 Liverpool L3 5QA, UK http://www.liv.ac.uk/lstm/lstm.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:28:33 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Giles Crane Subject: Re: Problems with Very Fast Computers with Epi 6. Good News. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thank you for the good send-off for 2001. Continued support of EPI6 is good news, I believe, and I will look forward to Version 6.04D Cordial regards, Giles Giles Crane, M.Phil., MPH Research Scientist & Statistician 609 292-8012, -5666 glc@doh.state.nj.us ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:07:22 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Jens M. Lauritsen" Subject: Re: Using If then in CHK of EpiData In-Reply-To: <200101100500.f0A50GY05272@appleton.uni2.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Re Kim Dang 's question on Using If then in CHK of EpiData Within a few weeks we will release v1.3 which has several additions in relation to the check file language. Among other commands: auto, enter, before file, after file, before record, after record, period can be used in if...then, date constants, legal use, confirm. See http://www.epidata.dk - history and version list. Concerning Kim Dang's question, the whole if..then can be made much simpler, but I also think you spotted a bug in EpiData v1.2 in relation to calculations based on fields. We will look into that. The following will work if Your Underweight field is numeric: qes: SEX: WTDX: ###.### HTDX: #.### BMI: ###.### UNDERWT # chk: * Revised 10 jan 2001 20:44 SEX comment legal M male F female end TYPE COMMENT END HTDX AFTER ENTRY CLEAR BMI CLEAR UNDERWT LET BMI=( WTDX / (HTDX * HTDX) ) let underwt2=1 let underwt="N" IF SEX="F" then if bmi<=15.725 then let underwt2=2 endif else * male person if bmi<=16.575 THEN let underwt=2 endif ENDIF END END BMI NOENTER END UNDERWT noenter comment legal 1 yes 2 no end END I would prefer sex as numeric with proper labels (comment legal). Kindly Jens M.Lauritsen. JM.Lauritsen@dadlnet.dk. EpiData is a windows implementation of the EpiInfo version 6 QES/CHK/REC file system for dataentry. See http://www.epidata.dk ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:23:54 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Jens M. Lauritsen" Subject: Subject: Keep an Audit Trail In-Reply-To: <200101100500.f0A50GY05272@appleton.uni2.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" re Subject: Keep an Audit Trail in Epi2000? <<<< The problem of the audit is if You wish to copy all information from the "old" record and move it to the new added record with the new date. I do not know any program which easily does this. It is easy to have the "last date on which this record was changed" saved with the data. But this would not add a new record. In EpiData (http://www.epidata.dk) or EpiInfo v. 6, just include a field on your dataentry form (qes file). Whenever you change the record that field will automatically change to the new date. To implement your audit trail: by spending some time on setting your files up, you could: You can set this up in EpiInfo v6 or EpiData v1.3 (available in a few weeks) with temporary defined variables. First You would look at the old record. Then based on some field (say CopyThis ) in which you entered a 1, it would after entry copy the relevant fields to temporary variables. Then Add a new record and enter to that same variable (CopyThis) a new value - say 2 - and it would automatically copy the values from the temporary variables to the relevant fields. For those fields you would then set them to "hide", such that on the second entry they could not be changed. AFter that you would change the fields allowed to change and then write the new record with the "hidden" fields unchanged from the first record. It can be done but it would take some time. Kindly Jens M.Lauritsen. JM.Lauritsen@dadlnet.dk. EpiData is a windows implementation of the EpiInfo version 6 QES/CHK/REC file system for dataentry. See http://www.epidata.dk ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:05:52 -0800 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Kim Dang Subject: Re: epidata question Comments: To: JM.Lauritsen@dadlnet.dk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Jen, Thank you very much for your advices and helped me to fix my problem. I followed the instructions from Michael and you and my program is running well now! I also looking forward for the new update version of EPIDATA. To me EPIDATA is very good program to use along with EPI6. Once again, thank you very much for all of you support! Sincerely, Kim Dang >>> Jens M. Lauritsen 01/10 12:54 PM >>> good colleque I am looking into your epidata problem. I think You found a bug in our calculation of fields.=20 More news later on the Y/N problem.=20 For your bmi use the formulation attached.=20 Kindly Jens M.Lauritsen =20 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:08:38 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Moynagh, Karen" Subject: Help calculating days MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi I am having some difficulty calculating a variable called days - this variable would calculate the number of days between the date of first contact (contact) and the date of completeion (complete). The check code I have written is as follows: ASSIGN Time=DAYS(Contact,Complete) What is strange is the fact that this works fine, so long as my date fields are set up as MM-DD-YYYY, but, when my date field reads YYYY-MM-DD (which is how my survey is set up) - the check code won't work and I get a message that reads "Function execution error: Days(" Has anyone encountered similar problems & is there a solution? I would welcome any assistance. Karen Moynagh ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:20:20 -0400 Reply-To: diag-ssa@entelchile.net Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Epidemiolog=EDa-Servicio_de_Salud_Atacama?= Subject: Re: Help calculating days In-Reply-To: <9F7E7607A4B4D311856D00508B67113F01235CB9@exchange1.region.halton.on.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Karen: Try this: if you create a new variable on your survey in format and then assign the value from the date Next, the days could be calculated from the new date variable. Hope this helps Omar Maldonado A. Epidemi�logo Servicio de Salud Atacama http://www.saludatacama.cl _____ > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Epi Info Discussion Group [mailto:EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV]En > nombre de Moynagh, Karen > Enviado el: Viernes, 12 de Enero de 2001 12:09 > Para: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Asunto: [EPI-INFO] Help calculating days > > > Hi > > I am having some difficulty calculating a variable called days - this > variable would calculate the number of days between the date of first > contact (contact) and the date of completeion (complete). The > check code I > have written is as follows: > > ASSIGN Time=DAYS(Contact,Complete) > > What is strange is the fact that this works fine, so long as my > date fields > are set up as MM-DD-YYYY, but, when my date field reads > YYYY-MM-DD (which is > how my survey is set up) - the check code won't work and I get a message > that reads "Function execution error: Days(" > > Has anyone encountered similar problems & is there a solution? > > I would welcome any assistance. > > Karen Moynagh ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 09:56:28 -0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Ana Maria Pessoa Subject: Exporting to EPI6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01C07D47.18F60420" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C07D47.18F60420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone! Since I haven't managed to solve my problems with analysis and most of = the people I have consulted have advised me to use EPI6 I was wondering = if it was possible to export a questionaire from EPI2000 to EPI6 (using = a command like the "save as" previous version in Windows). Can I do this = and how? Again my problem was that I can't perform the Tables command with two = variables, with several possible values, like: Variable A: a,b,c,d,e Variable B: a,b,c,d,e and get a Chi value (not even an invalid one...) I have tried this in EPI6 and it is as easy as performing the tables = varA varB command! Thank you, Ana Pessoa (Portugal) ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C07D47.18F60420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello everyone!

Since I haven't managed to solve my problems = with analysis=20 and most of the people I have consulted have advised me to use EPI6 I = was=20 wondering if it was possible to export a questionaire from EPI2000 to = EPI6=20 (using a command like the "save as" previous version in Windows). Can I = do this=20 and how?

Again my problem was that I can't perform the = Tables=20 command with two variables, with several possible values, = like:

Variable A: a,b,c,d,e

Variable B: a,b,c,d,e

and get a Chi value (not even an invalid=20 one...)

I have tried this in EPI6 and it is as easy as = performing=20 the tables varA varB command!

Thank you,

Ana Pessoa (Portugal)
------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C07D47.18F60420-- From: L-Soft list server at CDC (1.8d) [LISTSERV@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 11:01 AM To: Steven S Yoon Subject: File: "EPI-INFO LOG0101A" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 12:03:58 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Dean, Andrew G." Subject: Problems with Very Fast Computers with Epi 6. Good News. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" As we mentioned previously, computers running at more than about 700 mhz cause the Epi Info 6 programs Enter, EnterX, the Menu, and CSAMPLE not to run. We have found the problem, and will be able to provide a fixed version of the whole system in the near future, to be known as version 6.04 D. In the meantime, if you have urgent need of the fixed programs, please contact the helpline at epiinfo@cdc.gov Happy New Year to all, Andrew G. Dean, MD, MPH Epi Info Development Team Division of Public Health Surveillance and Informatics Epidemiology Program Office, Mailstop K74 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Atlanta, GA 30341-3717 Telephone (770) 488 8432 agd1@cdc.gov ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:43:01 -0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Ana Maria Pessoa Subject: Trouble with analysis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C075AC.9E7A1700" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C075AC.9E7A1700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone! I am just starting out with EPI200 (I have the 1.0.5 version) and I am = having lots of trouble especially with the analysis program. One of the things I have been trying to do but can't accomplish is to = calculate the association between two variables that have more than two possible results? I have tried to solve this problem using help but I haven't had much = luck...=20 Therefore and to give you an example if I have a few age groups and a = variable, let's say doctor visits per year, and if I ask for a table = with the age group being the exposure variable and doctor appointments = the outcome I never get a Qui value. Am I doing anything wrong or it = isn't at all possible? I have tried to use the help menu but it was of no use. I found out it = was possible but it doesn't explain what to do. Thank you, Ana Pessoa ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C075AC.9E7A1700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello everyone!

I am just starting out with EPI200 (I have the = 1.0.5=20 version) and I am having lots of trouble especially with the analysis=20 program.

One of the things I have been trying to do but = can't=20 accomplish is to calculate the association between two = variables

that have more than two possible = results?

I have tried to solve this problem using help = but I=20 haven't had much luck...

Therefore and to give you an example if I have a = few age=20 groups and a variable, let's say doctor visits per year, and if I ask = for a=20 table with the age group being the exposure variable and doctor = appointments the=20 outcome I never get a Qui value. Am I doing anything wrong or it isn't = at all=20 possible?

I have tried to use the help menu but it was of = no use. I=20 found out it was possible but it doesn't explain what to = do.

Thank you, Ana = Pessoa
------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C075AC.9E7A1700-- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:05:37 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Rohrer, James" Subject: Re: Trouble with analysis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C075B8.2B27EFE6" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C075B8.2B27EFE6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" if you want to compare mean MD visits across age groups, then its "means" on the menu. you will get a t-test. if you are looking at the probability of having any MD visit for different age groups, then you may be wanting a chi-square. I can't find that in the menu either. So, instead I go to 'advanced stats' and run logistic regression where any MD visit is the dependent variable and the age groups are the independent variables. the odds ratio and p value will answer your question. -----Original Message----- From: Ana Maria Pessoa [mailto:anamariapessoa@YAHOO.COM] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:43 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis Hello everyone! I am just starting out with EPI200 (I have the 1.0.5 version) and I am having lots of trouble especially with the analysis program. One of the things I have been trying to do but can't accomplish is to calculate the association between two variables that have more than two possible results? I have tried to solve this problem using help but I haven't had much luck... Therefore and to give you an example if I have a few age groups and a variable, let's say doctor visits per year, and if I ask for a table with the age group being the exposure variable and doctor appointments the outcome I never get a Qui value. Am I doing anything wrong or it isn't at all possible? I have tried to use the help menu but it was of no use. I found out it was possible but it doesn't explain what to do. Thank you, Ana Pessoa ------_=_NextPart_001_01C075B8.2B27EFE6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1"
if you want to compare mean MD visits across age groups, then its "means" on the menu. you will get a t-test. if you are looking at the probability of having any MD visit for different age groups, then you may be wanting a chi-square. I can't find that in the menu either. So, instead I go to 'advanced stats' and run logistic regression where any MD visit is the dependent variable and the age groups are the independent variables. the odds ratio and p value will answer your question.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ana Maria Pessoa [mailto:anamariapessoa@YAHOO.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:43 AM
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis

Hello everyone!

I am just starting out with EPI200 (I have the 1.0.5 version) and I am having lots of trouble especially with the analysis program.

One of the things I have been trying to do but can't accomplish is to calculate the association between two variables

that have more than two possible results?

I have tried to solve this problem using help but I haven't had much luck...

Therefore and to give you an example if I have a few age groups and a variable, let's say doctor visits per year, and if I ask for a table with the age group being the exposure variable and doctor appointments the outcome I never get a Qui value. Am I doing anything wrong or it isn't at all possible?

I have tried to use the help menu but it was of no use. I found out it was possible but it doesn't explain what to do.

Thank you, Ana Pessoa
------_=_NextPart_001_01C075B8.2B27EFE6-- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:46:13 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sarah Knowlton Subject: Merging in Epi6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there everyone! I have a question that I am hoping someone can help me out with!! I have three seperate rec files that all contain different information about all the same people, with their ID numbers being the common denominator between all three files. For some reason we do not have the same number of records in each rec file, which means that there are a few missing or a few too many records in any one of the three files. What I would like to do is somehow merge these three files together in order to see which records don't match up so that I may look at the "problem" records and determine whether they should be a part of the study or not. I tried doing a "join" merge, but it did not show me the records that did not match up. I guess my question is: is there some way that Epi Info 6 can provide me with a list of records that do not match up between different rec files? Thanks in advance for all your help! Sarah -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:17:10 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Dennis Leschinsky Subject: Re: Merging in Epi6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sarah: There are a couple of ways to do this. One is the way you have tried. Make sure the first file you attempt to merge (FILE1 on the merge menu) contains the most records. The other way is in analysis with the RELATE command. read file1 (make sure this file contains the most records) relate id file2 relate id file3 At this point, I would suggest running a list showing the ID variable as well as 2 or 3 variables from each of the merged files. Hope this helps. Dennis Leschinsky Nebraska Health and Human Services System Communicable Disease Surveillance 402-471-6450 phone 402-471-3601 fax dennis.leschinsky@hhss.state.ne.us Sarah Knowlton cc: Subject: [EPI-INFO] Merging in Epi6 01/03/01 02:46 PM Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group Hi there everyone! I have a question that I am hoping someone can help me out with!! I have three seperate rec files that all contain different information about all the same people, with their ID numbers being the common denominator between all three files. For some reason we do not have the same number of records in each rec file, which means that there are a few missing or a few too many records in any one of the three files. What I would like to do is somehow merge these three files together in order to see which records don't match up so that I may look at the "problem" records and determine whether they should be a part of the study or not. I tried doing a "join" merge, but it did not show me the records that did not match up. I guess my question is: is there some way that Epi Info 6 can provide me with a list of records that do not match up between different rec files? Thanks in advance for all your help! Sarah -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:10:36 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sarah Knowlton Subject: Re: Merging in Epi6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks for the help! Unfortunately, it doesn't get me that much further ahead as i would like Epi Info to weed out the "problem" recs and output then, versus my having to look at them manually once they are merged. have a great day! Sarah Dennis Leschinsky wrote: > Sarah: > There are a couple of ways to do this. One is the way you have tried. Make > sure the first file you attempt to merge (FILE1 on the merge menu) contains > the most records. The other way is in analysis with the RELATE command. > read file1 (make sure this file contains the most records) > relate id file2 > relate id file3 > > At this point, I would suggest running a list showing the ID variable as > well as 2 or 3 variables from each of the merged files. Hope this helps. > > Dennis Leschinsky > Nebraska Health and Human Services System > Communicable Disease Surveillance > 402-471-6450 phone > 402-471-3601 fax > dennis.leschinsky@hhss.state.ne.us > > Sarah Knowlton > ARD.AB.CA> cc: > Subject: [EPI-INFO] Merging in Epi6 > 01/03/01 02:46 PM > Please respond to > Epi Info > Discussion Group > > Hi there everyone! > > I have a question that I am hoping someone can help me out with!! > I have three seperate rec files that all contain different information > about all the same people, with their ID numbers being the common > denominator between all three files. For some reason we do not have the > same number of records in each rec file, which means that there are a > few missing or a few too many records in any one of the three files. > What I would like to do is somehow merge these three files together in > order to see which records don't match up so that I may look at the > "problem" records and determine whether they should be a part of the > study or not. > > I tried doing a "join" merge, but it did not show me the records that > did not match up. I guess my question is: is there some way that Epi > Info 6 can provide me with a list of records that do not match up > between different rec files? > > Thanks in advance for all your help! > > Sarah > > -- > Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant > Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening > Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 > email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:20:38 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Jamie Hockin Subject: Re: Merging in Epi6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just to add to what Dennis said. After you do the relate in ANALYSIS, you can select for missing data in one file like this: read file1 relate id file2 select file2.id = . echo No record in file 2, record in file 1 list file1.id ... read file2 relate id file1 select file1.id = . echo No record in file 1, record in file 2 list fil2.id ... and so on. Sarah Knowlton on 03/01/2001 03:46:13 PM Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV cc: (bcc: Jamie Hockin) Subject: [EPI-INFO] Merging in Epi6 Hi there everyone! I have a question that I am hoping someone can help me out with!! I have three seperate rec files that all contain different information about all the same people, with their ID numbers being the common denominator between all three files. For some reason we do not have the same number of records in each rec file, which means that there are a few missing or a few too many records in any one of the three files. What I would like to do is somehow merge these three files together in order to see which records don't match up so that I may look at the "problem" records and determine whether they should be a part of the study or not. I tried doing a "join" merge, but it did not show me the records that did not match up. I guess my question is: is there some way that Epi Info 6 can provide me with a list of records that do not match up between different rec files? Thanks in advance for all your help! Sarah -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:30:09 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Kobau, Rosemarie" Subject: Re: Merging in Epi6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sarah, You might want to select the "include unmatched records" when you select on your "match field" option. The new dataset should include data from both data sets, including records that don't match up. If you don't select that, you'll only see data for which you had matching IDs. I'm not sure about printing out a separate list of records that didn't match..... Rosemarie Kobau, MPH ASPH Fellow CDC,NCCDPHP,DACH -----Original Message----- From: Sarah Knowlton [mailto:sarahkn@CANCERBOARD.AB.CA] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 3:46 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Merging in Epi6 Hi there everyone! I have a question that I am hoping someone can help me out with!! I have three seperate rec files that all contain different information about all the same people, with their ID numbers being the common denominator between all three files. For some reason we do not have the same number of records in each rec file, which means that there are a few missing or a few too many records in any one of the three files. What I would like to do is somehow merge these three files together in order to see which records don't match up so that I may look at the "problem" records and determine whether they should be a part of the study or not. I tried doing a "join" merge, but it did not show me the records that did not match up. I guess my question is: is there some way that Epi Info 6 can provide me with a list of records that do not match up between different rec files? Thanks in advance for all your help! Sarah -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:35:25 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Geibel, Scott" Subject: Re: Merging in Epi6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I sometimes take advantage of the Windows platform to do this low tech method: --First, in Windows, I associate *.rec files with the analysis.exe program. --Second, I then I open each rec file in separate "Analysis" windows, then I "sort" each file by the unique ID, then I put each file in "browse" mode. --Third, I put the two rec files right next to each other-- overlapping the windows if necessary--so I can see the unique IDs for each file, and align them by matching the IDs horizontally. --I then page down each file, until I come to a discrepancy--usually an ID may be missing from a file, or there may be a duplicate in one of the files. I take notes and re-align the files as I go until I have a thorough list of the discrepancies... then I make decisions about what to delete. It may seem like a lot of work (especially if you have over a thousand cases or more), but it's one way to visualize what might have happened to cause your discrepancies. Scott _____________________________________________________________ Scott Geibel, MPH Horizons Project Population Council 4301 Connecticut Avenue, NW Suite 280 Washington, DC 20008 Tel: 202-237-9436; Fax: 202-237-8410 e-mail: sgeibel@pcdc.org -----Original Message----- From: Sarah Knowlton [mailto:sarahkn@CANCERBOARD.AB.CA] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 5:11 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Merging in Epi6 thanks for the help! Unfortunately, it doesn't get me that much further ahead as i would like Epi Info to weed out the "problem" recs and output then, versus my having to look at them manually once they are merged. have a great day! Sarah Dennis Leschinsky wrote: > Sarah: > There are a couple of ways to do this. One is the way you have tried. Make > sure the first file you attempt to merge (FILE1 on the merge menu) contains > the most records. The other way is in analysis with the RELATE command. > read file1 (make sure this file contains the most records) > relate id file2 > relate id file3 > > At this point, I would suggest running a list showing the ID variable as > well as 2 or 3 variables from each of the merged files. Hope this helps. > > Dennis Leschinsky > Nebraska Health and Human Services System > Communicable Disease Surveillance > 402-471-6450 phone > 402-471-3601 fax > dennis.leschinsky@hhss.state.ne.us > > Sarah Knowlton > ARD.AB.CA> cc: > Subject: [EPI-INFO] Merging in Epi6 > 01/03/01 02:46 PM > Please respond to > Epi Info > Discussion Group > > Hi there everyone! > > I have a question that I am hoping someone can help me out with!! > I have three seperate rec files that all contain different information > about all the same people, with their ID numbers being the common > denominator between all three files. For some reason we do not have the > same number of records in each rec file, which means that there are a > few missing or a few too many records in any one of the three files. > What I would like to do is somehow merge these three files together in > order to see which records don't match up so that I may look at the > "problem" records and determine whether they should be a part of the > study or not. > > I tried doing a "join" merge, but it did not show me the records that > did not match up. I guess my question is: is there some way that Epi > Info 6 can provide me with a list of records that do not match up > between different rec files? > > Thanks in advance for all your help! > > Sarah > > -- > Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant > Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening > Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 > email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:30:43 -0000 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Ana Maria Pessoa Subject: Trouble with analysis: thanks for the feedback but... nothing worked! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C07639.64A19B60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C07639.64A19B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks a lot for the insight concerning this problem however nothing = seems to work! The statistics are indeed on and under the advanced mode option. About the logistic regression tool it didn't work either because the = only available variables are the numeric ones. Is this a dead end?=20 Anyway here is the problem again: I would like to test if there is an association between age (or age = group to be more specific), and MD appointments (this is a multi-option = variable: "less than once a year"+"once every 6 months", etc.). What should I do? Thank you once more, Ana Pessoa ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rohrer, James=20 To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis if you want to compare mean MD visits across age groups, then its = "means" on the menu. you will get a t-test. if you are looking at the = probability of having any MD visit for different age groups, then you = may be wanting a chi-square. I can't find that in the menu either. = So, instead I go to 'advanced stats' and run logistic regression where = any MD visit is the dependent variable and the age groups are the = independent variables. the odds ratio and p value will answer your = question. -----Original Message----- From: Ana Maria Pessoa [mailto:anamariapessoa@YAHOO.COM] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:43 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis Hello everyone! I am just starting out with EPI200 (I have the 1.0.5 version) and I = am having lots of trouble especially with the analysis program. One of the things I have been trying to do but can't accomplish is = to calculate the association between two variables that have more than two possible results? I have tried to solve this problem using help but I haven't had much = luck...=20 Therefore and to give you an example if I have a few age groups and = a variable, let's say doctor visits per year, and if I ask for a table = with the age group being the exposure variable and doctor appointments = the outcome I never get a Qui value. Am I doing anything wrong or it = isn't at all possible? I have tried to use the help menu but it was of no use. I found out = it was possible but it doesn't explain what to do. Thank you, Ana Pessoa ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C07639.64A19B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks a lot for the insight concerning this = problem=20 however nothing seems to work!

The statistics are indeed on and under the = advanced mode=20 option.

About the logistic regression tool it didn't = work either=20 because the only available variables are the numeric ones. Is this a = dead end?=20

Anyway here is the problem again:

I would like to test if there is an = association=20 between age (or age group to be more specific), and MD appointments = (this is a=20 multi-option variable: "less than once a year"+"once every 6 months",=20 etc.).

What should I do?

Thank you once more,

Ana Pessoa

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rohrer, James
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV =

Sent: Wednesday, January 03, = 2001 7:05=20 PM

Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Trouble = with=20 analysis

if=20 you want to compare mean MD visits across age groups, then its "means" = on the=20 menu. you will get a t-test. if you are looking at the = probability=20 of having any MD visit for different age groups, then you may be = wanting=20 a chi-square. I can't find that in the menu either. So, = instead I=20 go to 'advanced stats' and run logistic regression where any MD = visit is=20 the dependent variable and the age groups are the independent = variables. =20 the odds ratio and p value will answer your = question.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ana Maria Pessoa = [mailto:anamariapessoa@YAHOO.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, January = 03,=20 2001 11:43 AM
To: = EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject:=20 [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis

Hello everyone!

I am just starting out with EPI200 (I have = the 1.0.5=20 version) and I am having lots of trouble especially with the = analysis=20 program.

One of the things I have been trying to do = but can't=20 accomplish is to calculate the association between two=20 variables

that have more than two possible = results?

I have tried to solve this problem using = help but I=20 haven't had much luck...

Therefore and to give you an example if I = have a few=20 age groups and a variable, let's say doctor visits per year, and if = I ask=20 for a table with the age group being the exposure variable and = doctor=20 appointments the outcome I never get a Qui value. Am I doing = anything wrong=20 or it isn't at all possible?

I have tried to use the help menu but it was = of no=20 use. I found out it was possible but it doesn't explain what to=20 do.

Thank you, Ana=20 Pessoa
------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C07639.64A19B60-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:06:42 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Rohrer, James" Subject: Re: Trouble with analysis: thanks for the feedback but ... nothing worked! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C07657.96C37C80" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C07657.96C37C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" It sounds like you want to do a chi square test on a table with multiple columns and multiple rows. I have not found a way to do that in epi2k. my approach would have been to make a new variable that is 'any visits in a year' scored as a '1' (versus no visits scored as a '0') and another new variable that is 'visits at least every six months' (versus less often). you now have two dichotomous dummy variables that can be used as dependent variables in the the logistic regression analysis. I always code my categorical variables using numbers rather than letters or words. maybe that's why this works for me. -----Original Message----- From: Ana Maria Pessoa [mailto:anamariapessoa@YAHOO.COM] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 4:31 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis: thanks for the feedback but... nothing worked! Thanks a lot for the insight concerning this problem however nothing seems to work! The statistics are indeed on and under the advanced mode option. About the logistic regression tool it didn't work either because the only available variables are the numeric ones. Is this a dead end? Anyway here is the problem again: I would like to test if there is an association between age (or age group to be more specific), and MD appointments (this is a multi-option variable: "less than once a year"+"once every 6 months", etc.). What should I do? Thank you once more, Ana Pessoa ----- Original Message ----- From: Rohrer, James To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis if you want to compare mean MD visits across age groups, then its "means" on the menu. you will get a t-test. if you are looking at the probability of having any MD visit for different age groups, then you may be wanting a chi-square. I can't find that in the menu either. So, instead I go to 'advanced stats' and run logistic regression where any MD visit is the dependent variable and the age groups are the independent variables. the odds ratio and p value will answer your question. -----Original Message----- From: Ana Maria Pessoa [mailto:anamariapessoa@YAHOO.COM] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:43 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis Hello everyone! I am just starting out with EPI200 (I have the 1.0.5 version) and I am having lots of trouble especially with the analysis program. One of the things I have been trying to do but can't accomplish is to calculate the association between two variables that have more than two possible results? I have tried to solve this problem using help but I haven't had much luck... Therefore and to give you an example if I have a few age groups and a variable, let's say doctor visits per year, and if I ask for a table with the age group being the exposure variable and doctor appointments the outcome I never get a Qui value. Am I doing anything wrong or it isn't at all possible? I have tried to use the help menu but it was of no use. I found out it was possible but it doesn't explain what to do. Thank you, Ana Pessoa ------_=_NextPart_001_01C07657.96C37C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1"
It sounds like you want to do a chi square test on a table with multiple columns and multiple rows. I have not found a way to do that in epi2k.    my approach would have been to make a new variable that is 'any visits in a year' scored as a '1' (versus no visits scored as a '0') and another new variable that is 'visits at least every six months' (versus less often). you now have two dichotomous dummy variables that can be used as dependent variables in the the logistic regression analysis.

I always code my categorical variables using numbers rather than letters or words. maybe that's why this works for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ana Maria Pessoa [mailto:anamariapessoa@YAHOO.COM]
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 4:31 AM
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis: thanks for the feedback but... nothing worked!

Thanks a lot for the insight concerning this problem however nothing seems to work!

The statistics are indeed on and under the advanced mode option.

About the logistic regression tool it didn't work either because the only available variables are the numeric ones. Is this a dead end?

Anyway here is the problem again:

I would like to test if there is an association between age (or age group to be more specific), and MD appointments (this is a multi-option variable: "less than once a year"+"once every 6 months", etc.).

What should I do?

Thank you once more,

Ana Pessoa

----- Original Message -----

From: Rohrer, James

To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV

Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 7:05 PM

Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis

if you want to compare mean MD visits across age groups, then its "means" on the menu. you will get a t-test. if you are looking at the probability of having any MD visit for different age groups, then you may be wanting a chi-square. I can't find that in the menu either. So, instead I go to 'advanced stats' and run logistic regression where any MD visit is the dependent variable and the age groups are the independent variables. the odds ratio and p value will answer your question.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ana Maria Pessoa [mailto:anamariapessoa@YAHOO.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:43 AM
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis

Hello everyone!

I am just starting out with EPI200 (I have the 1.0.5 version) and I am having lots of trouble especially with the analysis program.

One of the things I have been trying to do but can't accomplish is to calculate the association between two variables

that have more than two possible results?

I have tried to solve this problem using help but I haven't had much luck...

Therefore and to give you an example if I have a few age groups and a variable, let's say doctor visits per year, and if I ask for a table with the age group being the exposure variable and doctor appointments the outcome I never get a Qui value. Am I doing anything wrong or it isn't at all possible?

I have tried to use the help menu but it was of no use. I found out it was possible but it doesn't explain what to do.

Thank you, Ana Pessoa
------_=_NextPart_001_01C07657.96C37C80-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:34:05 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Matt Snell Subject: Re: Trouble with analysis: thanks for the feedback but...nothingworked! Comments: To: anamariapessoa@YAHOO.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ana: Forgive me if I'm misinterpreting what you're saying, but it seems that = you may want to invest some time in learning how variables are related in = terms of predictor (independent) versus outcome (dependent), and the = statistical tests that can be performed given the variable type (continuous= , categorical, binary) and number (univariate versus multivariate tests). Dr. Bud Gerstman has produced a very nice online course specific to Epi = Info on these topics. http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/gerstman/EpiInfo/ Regarding your analysis problem, James Rohner has suggested some ways to = recode new binary variables out of your MDvisits variable, each of which = can be inserted as the outcome variable in logistic regression. He has = also suggested using the MEANS command to test the mean and distribution = differences of MDvisits by agegroup. If you have the age (not categorized = into agegroup) of each record, have you considered correlation or linear = regression of age by MDvisits? At the risk of sounding like a heretic, I prefer the stability of the epi6 = product for performing most of these tests. Hope this helps, matt >>> Ana Maria Pessoa 01/04/01 03:30AM >>> Thanks a lot for the insight concerning this problem however nothing seems = to work! The statistics are indeed on and under the advanced mode option. About the logistic regression tool it didn't work either because the only = available variables are the numeric ones. Is this a dead end?=20 Anyway here is the problem again: I would like to test if there is an association between age (or age group = to be more specific), and MD appointments (this is a multi-option = variable: "less than once a year"+"once every 6 months", etc.). What should I do? Thank you once more, Ana Pessoa ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rohrer, James=20 To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis if you want to compare mean MD visits across age groups, then its = "means" on the menu. you will get a t-test. if you are looking at the = probability of having any MD visit for different age groups, then you may = be wanting a chi-square. I can't find that in the menu either. So, = instead I go to 'advanced stats' and run logistic regression where any MD = visit is the dependent variable and the age groups are the independent = variables. the odds ratio and p value will answer your question. -----Original Message----- From: Ana Maria Pessoa [mailto:anamariapessoa@YAHOO.COM]=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:43 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV=20 Subject: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis Hello everyone! I am just starting out with EPI200 (I have the 1.0.5 version) and I am = having lots of trouble especially with the analysis program. One of the things I have been trying to do but can't accomplish is to = calculate the association between two variables that have more than two possible results? I have tried to solve this problem using help but I haven't had much = luck...=20 Therefore and to give you an example if I have a few age groups and a = variable, let's say doctor visits per year, and if I ask for a table with = the age group being the exposure variable and doctor appointments the = outcome I never get a Qui value. Am I doing anything wrong or it isn't at = all possible? I have tried to use the help menu but it was of no use. I found out it = was possible but it doesn't explain what to do. Thank you, Ana Pessoa Matt Snell, MPH Epidemiologist St. Luke's Regional Medical Center Boise, ID 83712 snellm@slrmc.org ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:13:34 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Cheraz Cherif Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi ! I have just a stupid question. I'm using ANALYSIS in EPI2000, and I would like to know the command for "inequal" (not =), I found =, <, >, etc, but not the one I need. and how to use negation expressions like "not(x=5 and y=3)" for example ???? thanks for reply... Cheraz. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:19:55 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Servicio Salud Atacama Subject: Re: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! Cheraz: You must use this symbol <> Jose Rodriguez jrodriguez@saludatacama.cl cepep@entelchile.net diag-ssa@entelchile.net > > > Hi ! > I have just a stupid question. > I'm using ANALYSIS in EPI2000, and I would like to know the command for > "inequal" > (not =), I found =, <, >, etc, but not the one I need. > and how to use negation expressions like "not(x=5 and y=3)" for example ???? > thanks for reply... > Cheraz. > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:30:23 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Bussell, Kelly" Subject: Re: Problems with Very Fast Computers with Epi 6. Goo d News. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, Andy. Hope your holiday was excellent. When will we have the "full" ver. 6.04D version. People are beginning to but the 700's and I could use some time line. Thank you. Kelly -----Original Message----- From: Dean, Andrew G. [mailto:agd1@CDC.GOV] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 12:04 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Problems with Very Fast Computers with Epi 6. Good News. As we mentioned previously, computers running at more than about 700 mhz cause the Epi Info 6 programs Enter, EnterX, the Menu, and CSAMPLE not to run. We have found the problem, and will be able to provide a fixed version of the whole system in the near future, to be known as version 6.04 D. In the meantime, if you have urgent need of the fixed programs, please contact the helpline at epiinfo@cdc.gov Happy New Year to all, Andrew G. Dean, MD, MPH Epi Info Development Team Division of Public Health Surveillance and Informatics Epidemiology Program Office, Mailstop K74 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Atlanta, GA 30341-3717 Telephone (770) 488 8432 agd1@cdc.gov ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:30:40 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Cheraz Cherif Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <20010104162112.XOJP408.mta3@mta3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've already tried, for example : "select x <> (+)" or "select x != (+)" but it didn't work... At 10:19 04.01.2001 -0600, you wrote: >Hi! >Cheraz: >You must use this symbol <> > > >Jose Rodriguez >jrodriguez@saludatacama.cl >cepep@entelchile.net >diag-ssa@entelchile.net >> > >> >> Hi ! >> I have just a stupid question. >> I'm using ANALYSIS in EPI2000, and I would like to know the command for >> "inequal" >> (not =), I found =, <, >, etc, but not the one I need. >> and how to use negation expressions like "not(x=5 and y=3)" for example ???? >> thanks for reply... >> Cheraz. >> > > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:45:35 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Zubieta, Juan" Subject: Re: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain try this one, Select not x = (+) and not y = (+) Do not use any "" Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Cheraz Cherif [mailto:Cheraz.Cherif@INST.HOSPVD.CH] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:31 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] I've already tried, for example : "select x <> (+)" or "select x != (+)" but it didn't work... At 10:19 04.01.2001 -0600, you wrote: >Hi! >Cheraz: >You must use this symbol <> > > >Jose Rodriguez >jrodriguez@saludatacama.cl >cepep@entelchile.net >diag-ssa@entelchile.net >> > >> >> Hi ! >> I have just a stupid question. >> I'm using ANALYSIS in EPI2000, and I would like to know the command for >> "inequal" >> (not =), I found =, <, >, etc, but not the one I need. >> and how to use negation expressions like "not(x=5 and y=3)" for example ???? >> thanks for reply... >> Cheraz. >> > > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:53:32 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Cheraz Cherif Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" thanks! it's the right expression: not x =(+) At 11:45 04.01.2001 -0500, you wrote: >try this one, > >Select not x = (+) and not y = (+) > >Do not use any "" > >Thanks > >-----Original Message----- >From: Cheraz Cherif [mailto:Cheraz.Cherif@INST.HOSPVD.CH] >Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:31 AM >To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV >Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] > > >I've already tried, for example : >"select x <> (+)" >or >"select x != (+)" >but it didn't work... > > >At 10:19 04.01.2001 -0600, you wrote: >>Hi! >>Cheraz: >>You must use this symbol <> >> >> >>Jose Rodriguez >>jrodriguez@saludatacama.cl >>cepep@entelchile.net >>diag-ssa@entelchile.net >>> >> >>> >>> Hi ! >>> I have just a stupid question. >>> I'm using ANALYSIS in EPI2000, and I would like to know the command for >>> "inequal" >>> (not =), I found =, <, >, etc, but not the one I need. >>> and how to use negation expressions like "not(x=5 and y=3)" for example >???? >>> thanks for reply... >>> Cheraz. >>> >> >> > > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:08:20 -0400 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Dr Olubankole Obikoya Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsuscribe Banki -----Original Message----- From: Epi Info Discussion Group [mailto:EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV]On Behalf Of Zubieta, Juan Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 12:46 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] try this one, Select not x = (+) and not y = (+) Do not use any "" Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Cheraz Cherif [mailto:Cheraz.Cherif@INST.HOSPVD.CH] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:31 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] I've already tried, for example : "select x <> (+)" or "select x != (+)" but it didn't work... At 10:19 04.01.2001 -0600, you wrote: >Hi! >Cheraz: >You must use this symbol <> > > >Jose Rodriguez >jrodriguez@saludatacama.cl >cepep@entelchile.net >diag-ssa@entelchile.net >> > >> >> Hi ! >> I have just a stupid question. >> I'm using ANALYSIS in EPI2000, and I would like to know the command for >> "inequal" >> (not =), I found =, <, >, etc, but not the one I need. >> and how to use negation expressions like "not(x=5 and y=3)" for example ???? >> thanks for reply... >> Cheraz. >> > > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:02:14 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Hao Trinh Organization: Calgary Regional Health Authority Subject: Re: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe Hao Dr Olubankole Obikoya wrote: > unsuscribe > > Banki > > -----Original Message----- > From: Epi Info Discussion Group [mailto:EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV]On Behalf > Of Zubieta, Juan > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 12:46 PM > To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] > > try this one, > > Select not x = (+) and not y = (+) > > Do not use any "" > > Thanks > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cheraz Cherif [mailto:Cheraz.Cherif@INST.HOSPVD.CH] > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:31 AM > To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] > > I've already tried, for example : > "select x <> (+)" > or > "select x != (+)" > but it didn't work... > > At 10:19 04.01.2001 -0600, you wrote: > >Hi! > >Cheraz: > >You must use this symbol <> > > > > > >Jose Rodriguez > >jrodriguez@saludatacama.cl > >cepep@entelchile.net > >diag-ssa@entelchile.net > >> > > > >> > >> Hi ! > >> I have just a stupid question. > >> I'm using ANALYSIS in EPI2000, and I would like to know the command for > >> "inequal" > >> (not =), I found =, <, >, etc, but not the one I need. > >> and how to use negation expressions like "not(x=5 and y=3)" for example > ???? > >> thanks for reply... > >> Cheraz. > >> > > > > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:40:37 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Bussell, Kelly" Subject: Re: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Juan. Is this an undocumented Epi2000 feature???? seems rather odd to me. what happened to <>??? a lot of extra code one would think. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Zubieta, Juan [mailto:jcz3@CDC.GOV] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:46 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] try this one, Select not x = (+) and not y = (+) Do not use any "" Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Cheraz Cherif [mailto:Cheraz.Cherif@INST.HOSPVD.CH] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:31 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] I've already tried, for example : "select x <> (+)" or "select x != (+)" but it didn't work... At 10:19 04.01.2001 -0600, you wrote: >Hi! >Cheraz: >You must use this symbol <> > > >Jose Rodriguez >jrodriguez@saludatacama.cl >cepep@entelchile.net >diag-ssa@entelchile.net >> > >> >> Hi ! >> I have just a stupid question. >> I'm using ANALYSIS in EPI2000, and I would like to know the command for >> "inequal" >> (not =), I found =, <, >, etc, but not the one I need. >> and how to use negation expressions like "not(x=5 and y=3)" for example ???? >> thanks for reply... >> Cheraz. >> > > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:03:05 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Zubieta, Juan" Subject: Re: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" No, it is in the manual. You are allowed to use <> unless you are attempting to compare against (+), (-), or (.) for example: You are allowed to use SELECT AGE <> 15 or SELECT NOT AGE = 15 Both are correct. But you can not type SELECT VANILLA <> (.) Instead you must use SELECT NOT VANILLA = (.) Thanks for using Epi Info 2000 -----Original Message----- From: Bussell, Kelly [mailto:keb1@CDC.GOV] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 12:41 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Juan. Is this an undocumented Epi2000 feature???? seems rather odd to me. what happened to <>??? a lot of extra code one would think. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Zubieta, Juan [mailto:jcz3@CDC.GOV] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:46 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] try this one, Select not x = (+) and not y = (+) Do not use any "" Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Cheraz Cherif [mailto:Cheraz.Cherif@INST.HOSPVD.CH] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:31 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] I've already tried, for example : "select x <> (+)" or "select x != (+)" but it didn't work... At 10:19 04.01.2001 -0600, you wrote: >Hi! >Cheraz: >You must use this symbol <> > > >Jose Rodriguez >jrodriguez@saludatacama.cl >cepep@entelchile.net >diag-ssa@entelchile.net >> > >> >> Hi ! >> I have just a stupid question. >> I'm using ANALYSIS in EPI2000, and I would like to know the command for >> "inequal" >> (not =), I found =, <, >, etc, but not the one I need. >> and how to use negation expressions like "not(x=5 and y=3)" for example ???? >> thanks for reply... >> Cheraz. >> > > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:22:51 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Bussell, Kelly" Subject: Re: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" edification,please: can you explain the logic please of developing 2 systems to accomplish this so you're saying that SELECT AGE <> (.) IS ILLEGAL, and we would have to say SELECT NOT AGE = (.) Your example suggest that VANNILLA is Y/N(alpha) and age is numeric. does this have anything to do with it? thanks -----Original Message----- From: Zubieta, Juan [mailto:jcz3@CDC.GOV] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 1:03 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] No, it is in the manual. You are allowed to use <> unless you are attempting to compare against (+), (-), or (.) for example: You are allowed to use SELECT AGE <> 15 or SELECT NOT AGE = 15 Both are correct. But you can not type SELECT VANILLA <> (.) Instead you must use SELECT NOT VANILLA = (.) Thanks for using Epi Info 2000 -----Original Message----- From: Bussell, Kelly [mailto:keb1@CDC.GOV] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 12:41 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Juan. Is this an undocumented Epi2000 feature???? seems rather odd to me. what happened to <>??? a lot of extra code one would think. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Zubieta, Juan [mailto:jcz3@CDC.GOV] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:46 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] try this one, Select not x = (+) and not y = (+) Do not use any "" Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Cheraz Cherif [mailto:Cheraz.Cherif@INST.HOSPVD.CH] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:31 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] I've already tried, for example : "select x <> (+)" or "select x != (+)" but it didn't work... At 10:19 04.01.2001 -0600, you wrote: >Hi! >Cheraz: >You must use this symbol <> > > >Jose Rodriguez >jrodriguez@saludatacama.cl >cepep@entelchile.net >diag-ssa@entelchile.net >> > >> >> Hi ! >> I have just a stupid question. >> I'm using ANALYSIS in EPI2000, and I would like to know the command for >> "inequal" >> (not =), I found =, <, >, etc, but not the one I need. >> and how to use negation expressions like "not(x=5 and y=3)" for example ???? >> thanks for reply... >> Cheraz. >> > > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:15:17 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Cheryl Oberholser Subject: transfer data Comments: To: epiinfo@cdc.gov MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Is it possible to transfer data from EPI 2000 into SAS? If so, please explain how this is done. Thanks in advance, Cheryl Graduate Research Assistant University of Maryland ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:02:36 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Sarah Knowlton Subject: Re: Merging in Epi6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------E8DE8CDBF24158FB8342066C" --------------E8DE8CDBF24158FB8342066C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jamie, Thanks for replying to my query. Your approach makes sense, however I am obviously not understanding it entirely and was hoping you could clarify things for me. At the part where you say that I should type: select file2.id=. I am not sure of what exactly I am supposed to put in? I have been typing the following and it doesn't seem to be working: select x:\sarahkn\first.rec.prid=. where prid is the unique key in each REC file. Was this what I should be writing? It doesn't seem to be working and I was hoping you could explain. Thanks Jamie, and thanks so much to all of you who gave me advice! It's much appreciated! Sarah Jamie Hockin wrote: > Just to add to what Dennis said. > > After you do the relate in ANALYSIS, you can select for missing data in one file > like this: > > read file1 > relate id file2 > select file2.id = . > echo No record in file 2, record in file 1 > list file1.id ... > read file2 > relate id file1 > select file1.id = . > echo No record in file 1, record in file 2 > list fil2.id ... > > and so on. > > Sarah Knowlton on 03/01/2001 03:46:13 PM > > Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group > > To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > cc: (bcc: Jamie Hockin) > > Subject: [EPI-INFO] Merging in Epi6 > > Hi there everyone! > > I have a question that I am hoping someone can help me out with!! > I have three seperate rec files that all contain different information > about all the same people, with their ID numbers being the common > denominator between all three files. For some reason we do not have the > same number of records in each rec file, which means that there are a > few missing or a few too many records in any one of the three files. > What I would like to do is somehow merge these three files together in > order to see which records don't match up so that I may look at the > "problem" records and determine whether they should be a part of the > study or not. > > I tried doing a "join" merge, but it did not show me the records that > did not match up. I guess my question is: is there some way that Epi > Info 6 can provide me with a list of records that do not match up > between different rec files? > > Thanks in advance for all your help! > > Sarah > > -- > Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant > Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening > Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 > email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca --------------E8DE8CDBF24158FB8342066C Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jamie,
Thanks for replying to my query. Your approach makes sense, however I am obviously not understanding it entirely and was hoping you could clarify things for me.
At the part where you say that I should type:    select file2.id=.
I am not sure of what exactly I am supposed to put in? I have been typing the following and it doesn't seem to be working:     select x:\sarahkn\first.rec.prid=.

where prid is the unique key in each REC file. Was this what I should be writing? It doesn't seem to be working and I was hoping you could explain.

Thanks Jamie, and thanks so much to all of you who gave me advice! It's much appreciated!
Sarah
Jamie Hockin wrote:
Just to add to what Dennis said.
After you do the relate in ANALYSIS, you can select for missing data in one file
like this:
read file1
relate id file2
select file2.id = .
echo No record in file 2, record in file 1
list file1.id ...
read file2
relate id file1
select file1.id = .
echo No record in file 1, record in file 2
list fil2.id ...
and so on.
Sarah Knowlton <sarahkn@CANCERBOARD.AB.CA> on 03/01/2001 03:46:13 PM
Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group <EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV>
To:   EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
cc:    (bcc: Jamie Hockin)
Subject: [EPI-INFO] Merging in Epi6
Hi there everyone!
I have a question that I am hoping someone can help me out with!!
I have three seperate rec files that all contain different information
about all the same people, with their ID numbers being the common
denominator between all three files. For some reason we do not have the
same number of records in each rec file, which means that there are a
few missing or a few too many records in any one of the three files.
What I would like to do is somehow merge these three files together in
order to see which records don't match up so that I may look at the
"problem" records and determine whether they should be a part of the
study or not.
I tried doing a "join" merge, but it did not show me the records that
did not match up. I guess my question is: is there some way that Epi
Info 6 can provide me with a list of records that do not match up
between different rec files?
Thanks in advance for all your help!
Sarah
--
Sarah Knowlton   Research Assistant
Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening
Phone: 403.670.4477        Fax:   403.270.8003
email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca

--
Sarah Knowlton   Research Assistant
Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening
Phone: 403.670.4477        Fax:   403.270.8003
email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca
--------------E8DE8CDBF24158FB8342066C-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:28:21 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Antoniadis Stacy Subject: using guided tour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" I am new to EPI INFO and I am trying to teach myself to use the programs. I am going through the Guided Tour and I am up to step 10, which is entering data. For some reason as I try to enter data, I get a window that says "syntax error". when I try to get out of this window, it does not let me and I am unable to go anywhere else within the epi info program. What does this mean? Stacy Antoniadis MA, MPH Consultant Early Intervention Technical Assistance "Building community where all belong" 200 Anderson Road King of Prussia PA 19406 ph: 800-441-3215 fax: 610-265-5737 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:47:02 -0400 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Dr Olubankole Obikoya Subject: Re: Merging in Epi6 In-Reply-To: <3A54D6DC.F15650CE@cancerboard.ab.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0766D.F698DD60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0766D.F698DD60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscibe Banki -----Original Message----- From: Epi Info Discussion Group [mailto:EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV]On Behalf Of Sarah Knowlton Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 4:03 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Merging in Epi6 Jamie, Thanks for replying to my query. Your approach makes sense, however I am obviously not understanding it entirely and was hoping you could clarify things for me. At the part where you say that I should type: select file2.id=. I am not sure of what exactly I am supposed to put in? I have been typing the following and it doesn't seem to be working: select x:\sarahkn\first.rec.prid=. where prid is the unique key in each REC file. Was this what I should be writing? It doesn't seem to be working and I was hoping you could explain. Thanks Jamie, and thanks so much to all of you who gave me advice! It's much appreciated! Sarah Jamie Hockin wrote: Just to add to what Dennis said. After you do the relate in ANALYSIS, you can select for missing data in one file like this: read file1 relate id file2 select file2.id = . echo No record in file 2, record in file 1 list file1.id ... read file2 relate id file1 select file1.id = . echo No record in file 1, record in file 2 list fil2.id ... and so on. Sarah Knowlton on 03/01/2001 03:46:13 PM Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV cc: (bcc: Jamie Hockin) Subject: [EPI-INFO] Merging in Epi6 Hi there everyone! I have a question that I am hoping someone can help me out with!! I have three seperate rec files that all contain different information about all the same people, with their ID numbers being the common denominator between all three files. For some reason we do not have the same number of records in each rec file, which means that there are a few missing or a few too many records in any one of the three files. What I would like to do is somehow merge these three files together in order to see which records don't match up so that I may look at the "problem" records and determine whether they should be a part of the study or not. I tried doing a "join" merge, but it did not show me the records that did not match up. I guess my question is: is there some way that Epi Info 6 can provide me with a list of records that do not match up between different rec files? Thanks in advance for all your help! Sarah -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0766D.F698DD60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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<= span class=3DEmailStyle16>

-----Original Message-----
From: Epi Info Discussion = Group [mailto:EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV]On = Behalf Of Sarah Knowlton
Sent: Thursday, January = 04, 2001 4:03 PM
To: = EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] = Merging in Epi6

Jamie, <= /p>
Thanks for replying to my query. = Your approach makes sense, however I am obviously not understanding it = entirely and was hoping you could clarify things for me. <= /p>
At the part where you say that I = should type:    select file2.id=3D.

I am not sure of what exactly I = am supposed to put in? I have been typing the following and it doesn't seem = to be working:     select x:\sarahkn\first.rec.prid=3D.

where prid is the unique key in = each REC file. Was this what I should be writing? It doesn't seem to be working = and I was hoping you could explain.

Thanks Jamie, and thanks so much = to all of you who gave me advice! It's much appreciated! <= /p>
Sarah <= /p>
Jamie Hockin wrote: = <= /p>
Just to add to what Dennis said. = <= /p>
After you do the relate in ANALYSIS, you can select for missing data in one file
like this:

read file1
relate id file2
select file2.id =3D .
echo No record in file 2, record in file 1
list file1.id ...
read file2
relate id file1
select file1.id =3D .
echo No record in file 1, record in file 2
list fil2.id ...

and so on. <= /p>
Sarah Knowlton <sarahkn@CANCERBOARD.AB.CA> on 03/01/2001 03:46:13 PM = <= /p>
Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group <EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV> = <= /p>
To:   EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
cc:    (bcc: Jamie Hockin) <= /p>
Subject: [EPI-INFO] Merging in Epi6 <= /p>
Hi = there everyone!

I = have a question that I am hoping someone can help me out with!!
I have three seperate rec files that all contain different information =
about all the same people, with their ID numbers being the common
denominator between all three files. For some reason we do not have the =
same number of records in each rec file, which means that there are a =
few missing or a few too many records in any one of the three files. =
What I would like to do is somehow merge these three files together in =
order to see which records don't match up so that I may look at the
"problem" records and determine whether they should be a part of the
study or not.

I = tried doing a "join" merge, but it did not show me the records that
did not match up. I guess my question is: is there some way that Epi =
Info 6 can provide me with a list of records that do not match up
between different rec files? <= /p>
Thanks in advance for all your help! <= /p>
Sarah <= /p>
-- =
Sarah Knowlton   Research Assistant
Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening
Phone: 403.670.4477        = Fax:   403.270.8003
email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca<= /p>
--
Sarah Knowlton   Research Assistant
Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening
Phone: 403.670.4477        = Fax:   403.270.8003
email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca

------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C0766D.F698DD60-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:51:32 -0500 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Jamie Hockin Subject: Re: Merging in Epi6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sarah: I assume you did read second relate prid first Then you type select first.prid=. When the same variable name appears in the file you READ and the file you RELATEd to, you can reference the variable in the related file by putting the .rec name (without .rec or the path) before the variable name. In this situation, you are looking for records in second.rec for which there is no related record in first.rec Jamie Hockin FETP Canada Sarah Knowlton on 04/01/2001 03:02:36 PM Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV cc: (bcc: Jamie Hockin) Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Merging in Epi6 Jamie, Thanks for replying to my query. Your approach makes sense, however I am obviously not understanding it entirely and was hoping you could clarify things for me. At the part where you say that I should type: select file2.id=. I am not sure of what exactly I am supposed to put in? I have been typing the following and it doesn't seem to be working: select x:\sarahkn\first.rec.prid=. where prid is the unique key in each REC file. Was this what I should be writing? It doesn't seem to be working and I was hoping you could explain. Thanks Jamie, and thanks so much to all of you who gave me advice! It's much appreciated! Sarah Jamie Hockin wrote: > Just to add to what Dennis said. > > After you do the relate in ANALYSIS, you can select for missing data in one file > like this: > > read file1 > relate id file2 > select file2.id = . > echo No record in file 2, record in file 1 > list file1.id ... > read file2 > relate id file1 > select file1.id = . > echo No record in file 1, record in file 2 > list fil2.id ... > > and so on. > > Sarah Knowlton on 03/01/2001 03:46:13 PM > > Please respond to Epi Info Discussion Group > > To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > cc: (bcc: Jamie Hockin) > > Subject: [EPI-INFO] Merging in Epi6 > > Hi there everyone! > > I have a question that I am hoping someone can help me out with!! > I have three seperate rec files that all contain different information > about all the same people, with their ID numbers being the common > denominator between all three files. For some reason we do not have the > same number of records in each rec file, which means that there are a > few missing or a few too many records in any one of the three files. > What I would like to do is somehow merge these three files together in > order to see which records don't match up so that I may look at the > "problem" records and determine whether they should be a part of the > study or not. > > I tried doing a "join" merge, but it did not show me the records that > did not match up. I guess my question is: is there some way that Epi > Info 6 can provide me with a list of records that do not match up > between different rec files? > > Thanks in advance for all your help! > > Sarah > > -- > Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant > Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening > Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 > email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca -- Sarah Knowlton Research Assistant Epidemiology, Prevention & Screening Phone: 403.670.4477 Fax: 403.270.8003 email: sarahkn@cancerboard.ab.ca ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 12:39:33 +0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Henk Eggens (Indonesia)" Subject: Epi Info 2000 training in Indonesia MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C07714.8E6970E0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C07714.8E6970E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all, I write to you as surveillance consultant in the Indonesian Ministry of Health project on intensified communicable disease control. We would like to include a training program on Epi Info 2000 in this year's activities. The program would include a five-days, 15 to 20-participants Trainer of Trainers course, plus provincial training sessions plus follow-up by distance leaning methods. Target groups are field epidemiologists, Ministry and NGO staff engaged in Public Health activities on all levels. We are looking for one qualified teacher who could come to Indonesia to facilitate the Trainer of Trainers course, in the first semester of 2001. English will be the language of instruction; knowledge of Indonesian would be an asset. Please let us know when you think you are qualified and available to undertake this assignment. Send your answer by e-mail to: icdc-b@indo.net.id Regards from Jakarta Henk Eggens MD MPH Surveillance consultant ICDC Package B Department of Communicable Disease Control and Environmental Hygiene Ministry of Health Jakarta Indonesia ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C07714.8E6970E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Dear = all,

I write to you as = surveillance consultant in the Indonesian Ministry of Health project on intensified communicable disease control.

We would like to include = a training program on Epi Info 2000 in this year's activities.
The program would include a five-days, 15 to 20-participants Trainer of Trainers course, plus provincial training sessions plus follow-up by = distance leaning methods. Target groups are field epidemiologists, Ministry and = NGO staff engaged in Public Health activities on all = levels.

We are looking for one qualified teacher who could come to Indonesia to facilitate the = Trainer of Trainers course, in the first semester of 2001. English will be the = language of instruction; knowledge of Indonesian would be an = asset.

Please let us know when = you think you are qualified and available to undertake this assignment. =

Send your answer by e-mail to: icdc-b@indo.net.id

Regards from = Jakarta

Henk Eggens MD MPH
Surveillance consultant
ICDC Package B
Department of Communicable Disease Control and Environmental Hygiene
Ministry of Health
Jakarta
Indonesia

<= /p>

------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C07714.8E6970E0-- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:55:22 +0300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: syed gillani Subject: Re: Trouble with analysis: thanks for the feedback but... nothing worked! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C076F5.3CB60200" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C076F5.3CB60200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello!, Tables and Means commands should do the job. Have you tried: TABLES agegroup appointmnt ? This will cross tabulate agegroup rows with appointment columns and = calculate for you chi square test value along with p. MEANS, for continuous numerical variables, will give you ANOVA. =20 REGRESS will give you Y-intercept estimates and Beta coefficients' = estimates. The Statistics chapter of the manual is very useful. If you have some interest in programming, you may try R. It is free = software, a language and interactive statistical analysis package, which = might help. it is available from: http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/R/ I got the information from Mark Myatt, who has a very helpful site: http://www.myatt.demon.co.uk Good Luck. Syed. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ana Maria Pessoa=20 To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV=20 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 13:30 Shifa Subject: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis: thanks for the feedback = but... nothing worked! Thanks a lot for the insight concerning this problem however nothing = seems to work! The statistics are indeed on and under the advanced mode option. About the logistic regression tool it didn't work either because the = only available variables are the numeric ones. Is this a dead end?=20 Anyway here is the problem again: =20 I would like to test if there is an association between age (or age = group to be more specific), and MD appointments (this is a multi-option = variable: "less than once a year"+"once every 6 months", etc.). What should I do? =20 Thank you once more, Ana Pessoa ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rohrer, James=20 To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis if you want to compare mean MD visits across age groups, then its = "means" on the menu. you will get a t-test. if you are looking at the = probability of having any MD visit for different age groups, then you = may be wanting a chi-square. I can't find that in the menu either. = So, instead I go to 'advanced stats' and run logistic regression where = any MD visit is the dependent variable and the age groups are the = independent variables. the odds ratio and p value will answer your = question. -----Original Message----- From: Ana Maria Pessoa [mailto:anamariapessoa@YAHOO.COM] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:43 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis Hello everyone! =20 I am just starting out with EPI200 (I have the 1.0.5 version) and = I am having lots of trouble especially with the analysis program. One of the things I have been trying to do but can't accomplish is = to calculate the association between two variables that have more than two possible results? I have tried to solve this problem using help but I haven't had = much luck...=20 Therefore and to give you an example if I have a few age groups = and a variable, let's say doctor visits per year, and if I ask for a = table with the age group being the exposure variable and doctor = appointments the outcome I never get a Qui value. Am I doing anything = wrong or it isn't at all possible? I have tried to use the help menu but it was of no use. I found = out it was possible but it doesn't explain what to do. =20 Thank you, Ana Pessoa ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C076F5.3CB60200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello!,

Tables and Means commands should do the = job.

Have you tried:

TABLES agegroup appointmnt = ?

This will cross tabulate agegroup rows = with=20 appointment columns and calculate for you chi square test value along = with=20 p.

MEANS, for continuous numerical = variables, will=20 give you ANOVA.

REGRESS will give you Y-intercept = estimates and=20 Beta coefficients' estimates.

The Statistics chapter of the manual is = very=20 useful.

If you have some interest in = programming, you may=20 try R. It is free software, a = language and=20 interactive statistical analysis package, which might help.

it is available from:

http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/R/<= /FONT>

I got the information from Mark Myatt, = who has a=20 very helpful site:

http://www.myatt.demon.co.uk

Good Luck.

Syed.

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ana=20 Maria Pessoa
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV

Sent: Thursday, January 04, = 2001 13:30=20 Shifa

Subject: [EPI-INFO] Trouble = with=20 analysis: thanks for the feedback but... nothing worked!

Thanks a lot for the insight concerning this = problem=20 however nothing seems to work!

The statistics are indeed on and under the = advanced mode=20 option.

About the logistic regression tool it didn't = work either=20 because the only available variables are the numeric ones. Is this a = dead end?=20

Anyway here is the problem again:

I would like to test if there is an = association=20 between age (or age group to be more specific), and MD appointments = (this is a=20 multi-option variable: "less than once a year"+"once every 6 months",=20 etc.).

What should I do?

Thank you once more,

Ana Pessoa

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rohrer, James
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV =

Sent: Wednesday, January 03, = 2001 7:05=20 PM

Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] = Trouble with=20 analysis

if=20 you want to compare mean MD visits across age groups, then its = "means" on=20 the menu. you will get a t-test. if you are looking at = the=20 probability of having any MD visit for different age groups, then = you=20 may be wanting a chi-square. I can't find that in the = menu=20 either. So, instead I go to 'advanced stats' and run logistic=20 regression where any MD visit is the dependent variable and = the age=20 groups are the independent variables. the odds ratio and p = value will=20 answer your question.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ana Maria = Pessoa=20 [mailto:anamariapessoa@YAHOO.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, = January 03,=20 2001 11:43 AM
To: = EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject:=20 [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis

Hello everyone!

I am just starting out with EPI200 (I have = the 1.0.5=20 version) and I am having lots of trouble especially with the = analysis=20 program.

One of the things I have been trying to do = but can't=20 accomplish is to calculate the association between two=20 variables

that have more than two possible=20 results?

I have tried to solve this problem using = help but I=20 haven't had much luck...

Therefore and to give you an example if I = have a few=20 age groups and a variable, let's say doctor visits per year, and = if I ask=20 for a table with the age group being the exposure variable and = doctor=20 appointments the outcome I never get a Qui value. Am I doing = anything=20 wrong or it isn't at all possible?

I have tried to use the help menu but it = was of no=20 use. I found out it was possible but it doesn't explain what to=20 do.

Thank you, Ana=20 = Pessoa
------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C076F5.3CB60200-- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:08:08 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Jose Lozano Subject: Re: transfer data In-Reply-To: <"/GUID:Qax8THTNBNTRDQkM1LkMwRA"@MHS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0CHi: > Hi > Is it possible to transfer data from EPI 2000 into SAS? If so, pleas= e > explain how this is done. I've been trying with some formats, and i've come to the conclusion tha= t the better option is to import directly from the MSAccess files... Use the following SAS code: PROC IMPORT OUT=3D WORK.TEMP_FILE DATATABLE=3D "DATA_TABLE_FROM_EPI2K_INCLUDED_IN_THE_PROYECT= _FILE"=20 DBMS=3DACCESS97 REPLACE; DATABASE=3D"C:\FULL_PATH_TO_FILE\PROYECT.MDB";=20 RUN; Best Regards from Spain Jose Lozano Servicio de Epidemiolog=EDa Consejer=EDa de Sanidad y Bienestar Social Junta de Castilla y Le=F3n ESPA=D1A email: Jose.Lozano@csbs.jcyl.es ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:24:46 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Jose Lozano Subject: [OT] FW: Out of Office AutoReply: [EPI-INFO] transfer data MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__boundary__05:01:2001_12:22:07_(8738)" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --__boundary__05:01:2001_12:22:07_(8738) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0CHi: I'd like to call for the end of such messages i am receiving each time = I send a message to the list. The problem is that there is not a single subject who is sending messag= es of "autoreply", they are at least 3 persons who send messages of Autoreply when i send = a single message. You'd probably think i am wrong, but i dont like to receive 3 thrash me= ssages each time i send one. I am NOT suposed to receive such kinda message, because i am not really= sending message to this persons, so i'd like not to receive any "autore= ply" mail.=20 Please, deactivate the "autoreply" option, or find the way not to send = messages unsolicited to any member of the list that writes messages. (all in all= , this is called SPAM at Internet forums). If it is only a problem of me, please sorry for disturbance. Best Regards Jose Lozano Servicio de Epidemiolog=EDa Consejer=EDa de Sanidad y Bienestar Social Junta de Castilla y Le=F3n ESPA=D1A email: Jose.Lozano@csbs.jcyl.es --__boundary__05:01:2001_12:22:07_(8738) Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: AmeliaBroussard@mail.clayton.edu To: Jose.Lozano@csbs.jcyl.es Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: [EPI-INFO] transfer data Message-Id: <"/GUID:QazkTNzY5REI2NjI1QjFEMw*/G=Jose/S=Lozano/OU=sve/OU=dgspa /O=csbs/PRMD=jcyl/ADMD=400net/C=es/"@MHS> Importance: normal Autoforwarded: false MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will be out of the office starting January 3, 2001 and will not return until January 16, 2001. If you are student in classes next spring, check webct for course information and orientation dates. See you on January 16, 2001 --__boundary__05:01:2001_12:22:07_(8738)-- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:20:10 +0100 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vegard_H=F8gli?= Subject: Re: [OT] FW: Out of Office AutoReply: [EPI-INFO] transfer data MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Jose, The Epi Info list is one of the lists I apreciate most, because I like = Epi Info and use it quite a bit, I learn from the list, and I often get = to-the-point advice from the world leading experts (you guys) when I = have problems. I don't consider the out of office autoreplies a big = price to pay. In most e-mailclients you can easily create filters, for = example one that moves all messages where sender is the epi info list, = and the subject contains the word "autoreply" to the trash folder, and = you will never be annoyed by these messages again.=20 Vegard Hoegli ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Jose Lozano" To: Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 1:24 PM Subject: [EPI-INFO] [OT] FW: Out of Office AutoReply: [EPI-INFO] = transfer data Hi: I'd like to call for the end of such messages i am receiving each time I = send a message to the list. The problem is that there is not a single subject who is sending = messages of "autoreply", they are at least 3 persons who send messages of Autoreply when i send a = single message. You'd probably think i am wrong, but i dont like to receive 3 thrash = messages each time i send one. I am NOT suposed to receive such kinda message, because i am not really sending message to this persons, so i'd like not to receive any = "autoreply" mail.=20 Please, deactivate the "autoreply" option, or find the way not to send = messages unsolicited to any member of the list that writes messages. (all in all, = this is called SPAM at Internet forums). If it is only a problem of me, please sorry for disturbance. Best Regards Jose Lozano Servicio de Epidemiolog=EDa Consejer=EDa de Sanidad y Bienestar Social Junta de Castilla y Le=F3n ESPA=D1A email: Jose.Lozano@csbs.jcyl.es ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:23:50 -0700 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: Marilou Blair Subject: Re: -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain unsubscribe Marilou Blair >>> Hao Trinh 01/04/01 10:02am >>> unsubscribe Hao Dr Olubankole Obikoya wrote: > unsuscribe > > Banki > > -----Original Message----- > From: Epi Info Discussion Group [mailto:EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV]On Behalf > Of Zubieta, Juan > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 12:46 PM > To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] > > try this one, > > Select not x = (+) and not y = (+) > > Do not use any "" > > Thanks > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cheraz Cherif [mailto:Cheraz.Cherif@INST.HOSPVD.CH] > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:31 AM > To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV > Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] > > I've already tried, for example : > "select x <> (+)" > or > "select x != (+)" > but it didn't work... > > At 10:19 04.01.2001 -0600, you wrote: > >Hi! > >Cheraz: > >You must use this symbol <> > > > > > >Jose Rodriguez > >jrodriguez@saludatacama.cl > >cepep@entelchile.net > >diag-ssa@entelchile.net > >> > > > >> > >> Hi ! > >> I have just a stupid question. > >> I'm using ANALYSIS in EPI2000, and I would like to know the command for > >> "inequal" > >> (not =), I found =, <, >, etc, but not the one I need. > >> and how to use negation expressions like "not(x=5 and y=3)" for example > ???? > >> thanks for reply... > >> Cheraz. > >> > > > > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:44:04 -0600 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "Rohrer, James" Subject: Re: Trouble with analysis: thanks for the feedback but ... nothing worked! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C07725.F3248108" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C07725.F3248108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Tables does not always produce the chi square, though perhaps it is supposed to. -----Original Message----- From: syed gillani [mailto:syed@OGERTEL.COM] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:55 PM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis: thanks for the feedback but... nothing worked! Hello!, Tables and Means commands should do the job. Have you tried: TABLES agegroup appointmnt ? This will cross tabulate agegroup rows with appointment columns and calculate for you chi square test value along with p. MEANS, for continuous numerical variables, will give you ANOVA. REGRESS will give you Y-intercept estimates and Beta coefficients' estimates. The Statistics chapter of the manual is very useful. If you have some interest in programming, you may try R. It is free software, a language and interactive statistical analysis package, which might help. it is available from: http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/R/ I got the information from Mark Myatt, who has a very helpful site: http://www.myatt.demon.co.uk Good Luck. Syed. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ana Maria Pessoa To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 13:30 Shifa Subject: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis: thanks for the feedback but... nothing worked! Thanks a lot for the insight concerning this problem however nothing seems to work! The statistics are indeed on and under the advanced mode option. About the logistic regression tool it didn't work either because the only available variables are the numeric ones. Is this a dead end? Anyway here is the problem again: I would like to test if there is an association between age (or age group to be more specific), and MD appointments (this is a multi-option variable: "less than once a year"+"once every 6 months", etc.). What should I do? Thank you once more, Ana Pessoa ----- Original Message ----- From: Rohrer, James To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis if you want to compare mean MD visits across age groups, then its "means" on the menu. you will get a t-test. if you are looking at the probability of having any MD visit for different age groups, then you may be wanting a chi-square. I can't find that in the menu either. So, instead I go to 'advanced stats' and run logistic regression where any MD visit is the dependent variable and the age groups are the independent variables. the odds ratio and p value will answer your question. -----Original Message----- From: Ana Maria Pessoa [mailto:anamariapessoa@YAHOO.COM] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:43 AM To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV Subject: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis Hello everyone! I am just starting out with EPI200 (I have the 1.0.5 version) and I am having lots of trouble especially with the analysis program. One of the things I have been trying to do but can't accomplish is to calculate the association between two variables that have more than two possible results? I have tried to solve this problem using help but I haven't had much luck... Therefore and to give you an example if I have a few age groups and a variable, let's say doctor visits per year, and if I ask for a table with the age group being the exposure variable and doctor appointments the outcome I never get a Qui value. Am I doing anything wrong or it isn't at all possible? I have tried to use the help menu but it was of no use. I found out it was possible but it doesn't explain what to do. Thank you, Ana Pessoa ------_=_NextPart_001_01C07725.F3248108 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Tables does not always produce the chi square, though perhaps it is supposed to.

-----Original Message-----
From: syed gillani [mailto:syed@OGERTEL.COM]
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:55 PM
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis: thanks for the feedback but... nothing worked!

Hello!,

Tables and Means commands should do the job.

Have you tried:

TABLES agegroup appointmnt ?

This will cross tabulate agegroup rows with appointment columns and calculate for you chi square test value along with p.

MEANS, for continuous numerical variables, will give you ANOVA.

REGRESS will give you Y-intercept estimates and Beta coefficients' estimates.

The Statistics chapter of the manual is very useful.

If you have some interest in programming, you may try R. It is free software, a language and interactive statistical analysis package, which might help.

it is available from:

http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/R/

I got the information from Mark Myatt, who has a very helpful site:

http://www.myatt.demon.co.uk

Good Luck.

Syed.

----- Original Message -----

From: Ana Maria Pessoa

To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV

Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 13:30 Shifa

Subject: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis: thanks for the feedback but... nothing worked!

Thanks a lot for the insight concerning this problem however nothing seems to work!

The statistics are indeed on and under the advanced mode option.

About the logistic regression tool it didn't work either because the only available variables are the numeric ones. Is this a dead end?

Anyway here is the problem again:

I would like to test if there is an association between age (or age group to be more specific), and MD appointments (this is a multi-option variable: "less than once a year"+"once every 6 months", etc.).

What should I do?

Thank you once more,

Ana Pessoa

----- Original Message -----

From: Rohrer, James

To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV

Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 7:05 PM

Subject: Re: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis

if you want to compare mean MD visits across age groups, then its "means" on the menu. you will get a t-test. if you are looking at the probability of having any MD visit for different age groups, then you may be wanting a chi-square. I can't find that in the menu either. So, instead I go to 'advanced stats' and run logistic regression where any MD visit is the dependent variable and the age groups are the independent variables. the odds ratio and p value will answer your question.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ana Maria Pessoa [mailto:anamariapessoa@YAHOO.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:43 AM
To: EPI-INFO@LISTSERV.CDC.GOV
Subject: [EPI-INFO] Trouble with analysis

Hello everyone!

I am just starting out with EPI200 (I have the 1.0.5 version) and I am having lots of trouble especially with the analysis program.

One of the things I have been trying to do but can't accomplish is to calculate the association between two variables

that have more than two possible results?

I have tried to solve this problem using help but I haven't had much luck...

Therefore and to give you an example if I have a few age groups and a variable, let's say doctor visits per year, and if I ask for a table with the age group being the exposure variable and doctor appointments the outcome I never get a Qui value. Am I doing anything wrong or it isn't at all possible?

I have tried to use the help menu but it was of no use. I found out it was possible but it doesn't explain what to do.

Thank you, Ana Pessoa
------_=_NextPart_001_01C07725.F3248108-- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:37:51 -0300 Reply-To: Epi Info Discussion Group Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: andres bolzan Subject: Re: DoEpi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Henriette: I�ve been used the Do epi and I must to say you that this program is quite useful to understand and handle the epi 6 version, not the 2000 version. You can download it from the epi web site. Try it on!! Andres Bolzan hospital san clemente argentina ----- Original Message ----- From: Henriette Jansen To: Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 9:06 AM Subject: [EPI-INFO] DoEpi > A colleague pointed out the existence of the DoEpi, an EpiInfo related > program with exercises to teach epidemiology and EpiInfo version 6. I have > never used DoEpi and I was wondering if any of the members of this list is > (still) using it and what are the experiences with DoEpi? > Thanks you very much! > Henriette Jansen > > ************************************************************ > Dr Henrica A.F.M. Jansen > Epidemiologist > Global Programme on Evidence for Health Policy > World Health Organization > 1211 Geneva 27, Switzerland > ************************************************************ > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 13:00:59 -0600 Reply-To: ecgroh@attglobal.net Sender: Epi Info Discussion Group From: "eric c. groh" Subject: invalid codes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi all, trying to setup a questionnaire in epi 2000 1.0.5, i'm having problems importing a .bmp image and working with check files... I am a former epi 6 user. see the following: "481: Invalid picture" Environment Setcolorandimage, Fld "5: Invalid procedure call or argument" Environment Setdisplaystatus, Fld These problems occured when I successfully imported the .bmp in makeview, but subsequently tried to attempt data entry and when i tried to set ranges on numeric and date fields... any help would be appreciated, e.c. groh